Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL NEWS PART 2: Johnny Manziel TORCHES Browns & Tyreek Hill SNUBBED!

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to former Heisman Trophy winner Johnny Manziel joins the show and brutally calls out the Cleveland Browns with zero love for his former te...am, and go in on the surprising decision by the Miami Dolphins to snub Tyreek Hill from being named a captain this season. 0:00 - Giants rushing Jaxson Dart?16:44 - Tyreek Hill not named Captain26:57 - CeeDee Lamb calls CAP on Micah hate35:14 - Johnny Manziel has no love for Browns (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an I-Heart podcast. Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts Pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that?
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Starting point is 00:02:57 The athletic reports Russ must engineer wins against those contenders to prevent head coach Brian Dayball from benching him for rookie Jackson Dart. Giants Brass has told everyone who will listen since the draft, Russell is their unquestioned starting quarterback. And the plan is first round picks to develop behind the scenes. It sounds awful familiar to 2019. The plan was for Eli to start Daniel Jones on the bench. Then Jones took over after an 0 and 2 start. And the same thing with Eli. Remember, when Eli came in,
Starting point is 00:03:29 Kurt Warner was supposed to be the starter. And then what happened, Ocho? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I don't think they should rush it. I hate when the media does this. I hope the ball is patient, allowing Jackson Thart to sit back and learn, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:47 from Russell Wilson instead of being thrown out there to the wolves. Russell Wilson has enough talent around him offensively. They have some good pieces on defense where I think they're going to be fine. they're going to be fine Russell Wilson Just throw Uno the ball baby That's it
Starting point is 00:04:03 Ocho Yeah We got commanders Cowboys Chiefs charges Okay well don't Throw the Cowboys Out there
Starting point is 00:04:11 Don't throw the Cowboys Name out there like that Like they're This a rivalry game So you know They're the same Divisional game So you know
Starting point is 00:04:20 Divisional games You go either way Ocho You're right You're right But hey I'm And the commanders
Starting point is 00:04:27 is another division game, rivalry game. Really good. Chief Chargers, very unfamiliar, two AFC West opponents. I mean, I don't know if I've ever heard of this.
Starting point is 00:04:36 You got two division opponents and then you got two FC West opponents. But I'm not, I think, and you and I did over and under, I said, I'm going under eight weeks for Jackson Dart. He played too great in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And I've heard Rumlin's people say, you talk about preseason. But I'm just saying. By preseason. I know, but I'm saying. saying, I've heard people say, hey, I would just roll with Jackson Dart. Oh, from jump. From the jump, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 If they were going to do that, if they were going to do that, they wouldn't have brought in Russell. They wouldn't have had James. I mean, there's no way. There's no way. Because there would be no point of even bringing them in if you just running, if you running them. You didn't know you were going to be in a, you didn't know you signed all those guys
Starting point is 00:05:19 before you got Jackson Dart. You didn't know you were going to be in position to get him. What if, what if somebody snatches them? But what if somebody moves ahead of you and take him? So now, so I got, oh, Joey, it's kind of like, you know, you buy something and you're like, damn, if I knew I was going to be able to get, if I knew I was going to be able to get that at a cheaper price, I wouldn't even bought this. Right, right. And so that, I believe that's what happened. They didn't know they're going to be in position to get Jackson Dart.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And now all of a sudden we signed these guys in free agency. And guess what? Jackson Dart is there. Right. man we can get him you're right damn man if I knew
Starting point is 00:06:03 I could have got this new car for what I wouldn't I wouldn't have got these two used ones but it's I remember and I remember Ocho how sad Eli looked standing on the sideline
Starting point is 00:06:20 yeah because Eli had started you have to understand he looked sad when he in the game he does just as his face is his demeanor his demeanor you can't tell what he's uh well he had already broken the street because remember uh gino smith when they binged it for that one game yeah i say man that's some bull jive how you're going to break the man's street for one game
Starting point is 00:06:43 and then put him back in there yeah they did that on purpose i'm not i'm not sure why i'm not sure why so we'll see the over under is eight Mo Lewis blames Drew Bredso for the hit that launched the Tom Brady era. Bledso had just signed a $100 million deal to be what type of quarterback? A passing quarterback, correct? He had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball. If he had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball, we would be talking about this. Who calls the event?
Starting point is 00:07:16 The person with the ball. Now he's doing what he didn't sign up for. He signed up to be a passing quarterback. What do I do? Stop the people with the ball. the ball. It's just another play for me, but it's a different play for him. It's really irrelevant to me. I was just another play to me, to, to y'all. It's a big game-changing, history-changing play. I've never gone back to Washington play. If people want to talk about it, I don't hide from
Starting point is 00:07:42 it, but it's no importance to me. Lewis had a boarded the spotlight since retiring. Former team may say he feels slighted because I don't think so. Look, I know Mo and I used to work out together. He's a funny guy. But he's like, hold on. So what y'all want me to do? The guy got the ball. He's a passing quarterback. He's not that fast. And then, bro, get out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah, he was trying to get out of bounds. Not fast enough. Yeah, he was headed out of bounds. He didn't get out fast enough. But it was a good hit. It was a good hit. Good clean, good clean. Good clean hit.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Drew Brees went down and the rest was history. I mean, Drew, Drew Bledsoe went down. And the rest was history. Yes. The rest was history. Yes. And it lost. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I think, I think if he didn't go down, if Drew, if Drew Bledsoe didn't get hurt, I think it's something about history still would have been what it was. History still would have been what it was. But at some point, break up. Tom, we're going to come in there. Yeah, at some point. I mean, I think it might be a very difficult situation, Ocho. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:08:48 You just gave a man $100 million and then you say, well, we're going to start this guy that we took in the sixth round. hey that's tough that's tough now everything that happened after they won the Super Bowl coach Belichick could do no wrong in Mr. Kraft's eyes because it seemed like every every button that he push kachin kachin kachin kachin kachin and when it's going like that look I don't I don't know anybody that's ever been around Mr. Kraft I've been around him a little bit I like him um been around coach bellichick a little less i don't have a problem with coach bellichick but they're very
Starting point is 00:09:27 different people they're very very very how many times did i say very okay one more time very different people they are ocho yeah and when you got two different people yes sir that's opposite of each other. Mr. Kraft looked at it like, you know what? Yeah, we're different. I don't like the way he does certain things and why he talks.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But I got it good. These Super Bowls keep piling up. We win the division every year. We win the AFC championship game every other year. Yeah, I'm going to keep my mom closed. Yeah. because based on what he had done Coach Belichick should have got another three, four years
Starting point is 00:10:29 if you mean to tell me this man gives you 20 years and you win 18, 19 division titles you go to seven, you go to nine Super Bowls, you win six, you go to 10, 11 AFC championship games and you mean to tell me you only get two years you only get two years?
Starting point is 00:10:50 So I give you 20 years. years of prosperity and I only get two years one year we make the playoff the next year how many years did coach Belichick coach after Brady I'll make sure I'm with it two or three he drafted Matt Jones they go to the playoffs the next year they don't and did they fire him after that I think
Starting point is 00:11:16 Coach Belichick didn't draft Drake May he got two years Tampa yes he coached four years he coached four years Labrady wow I didn't know okay
Starting point is 00:11:36 he squeezed out four he got four went to the playoff the first year right with Matt Jones oh Matt Matt Matt first year he was nice boy Matt the first year yeah he looked very promising
Starting point is 00:11:49 and then I don't know what happened after that well it was the second year and Brady up the first year right so he got four years after Brady left
Starting point is 00:11:58 he went to the full-off the second year the second year after Brady up the first year right right right right
Starting point is 00:12:06 right right right okay um and I think if they look he has started to take those swings and misses
Starting point is 00:12:16 oh Joe yeah because when you got Brady you can swing and miss and Brady come up there and hit it over the fence.
Starting point is 00:12:22 He makes up for you. Brady was the greatest erasers. So every mistake that you raised, Brady could erase it. Every time. And right in the correct answer. Mm-hmm. Now the mistakes that you make it, drafting those tight ends and they're not on the team, signing guys in for agency and they don't cut it after the year.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Mr. Kraff is like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. This ain't, this ain't what I'm used to. No, no, no. And Ocho, you know, you get used to. You get accustomed to a certain, certain level of winning. Lifestyle, yeah, yeah. It's hard. You want to maintain that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Absolutely. But, like I said, I don't, you know, Mr. Crafts is a very religious man. Not to say to Coach Belichick's not, but I just don't, I wouldn't necessarily put them together. If I don't see them best friends. Right. as just people just common people right you know what I'm saying and I'm not saying I don't know if owners and coaches are best friends but strictly business strictly 1,000 percent yeah two people with the same end goal the same end goal in mind when it comes to business and football we're trying to compete for the same thing but outside building nothing to like no no and I'm like mo man what y'all want me to do I didn't y'all make it seem like I intended to like almost kill this man I didn't I just put a hit on him just like I would anybody else that's running the football my job is to hit people tackle people and go back to the huddle and do it over again yeah um but it birthed the dynasty unlike anything that we had ever seen um you probably got to go back to the yankees in the 20s or the 50s or the 60s to find anything. something like this over the period of time in which it lasted 60s Celtics you know they
Starting point is 00:14:29 went eight championships in that decade where they went eight in a row they won more but they won eight in a row I mean you got to go back to something like that you but in football I don't think I'm going to see it in my lifetime now I'm not going to live another 80 years probably not going to live another 50 years so I'm I'm not going to see it in my life lifetime good luck somebody that said in the teenage years seeing something like what we saw from 2000 until tom brady left in 2020 good luck that's what i say good look i mean 2019 so good look hey you're right and it made it may and people think it's so easy it think it's so easy because now we're seeing another great quarterback do it not to that extent but he ain't too far off
Starting point is 00:15:17 Or he's on the state. And then 15 over there in Kansas City. No. It's not easy. No. Winning is hard in the NFL. And to win consistently is even harder. And to win consistently and then cap it off with championships is even,
Starting point is 00:15:36 it's much harder. Yeah. And I think sometimes, you know, it's just like anything until you see somebody, man, man, that's these Steph Curry make that look easy. That is, ish ain't easy. Man, that man threw the ball back. That ain't easy. They just, the greatness sometimes mask just how difficult something is.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Yeah. Gretzky made hockey look easy. Usain boat made running look easy. Michael Phelps made swimming look easy. Simone Bowles made it look easy. Serena. It's not. It's just that they're so great.
Starting point is 00:16:13 You take it for granted. Yeah. but when you play when you're a professional athlete no matter the sport that you end and you see somebody else another professional athlete do something and do it consistently
Starting point is 00:16:26 at an extremely high level I think you have a greater appreciation for it Ocho than say the normal fan yes yeah I definitely think you have a great appreciation because you realize you understand
Starting point is 00:16:45 Because if you think about Ocho, you think about what we put into what we do. And we were great in our own right. But when you see Jerry or you see Tom or you see Mahomes or you see Emmett Smith or you see a Jerry Rice or you see a Joe Montana or you see a Jordan or Lab Bird of Magic and a LeBron and a Steph Curry. You're like, damn. man. Damn. And when you look at Joe, you're like, I remember like, damn.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I remember being in the high school like, damn, I'm really talented. I mean, I do stuff that just come so easy. I mean, it's easy for me to do this. And then you see these guys, you're like, what must they have been like in high school? What was LeBron like? What was time like?
Starting point is 00:17:39 What was... I think Serena was home school, so I'm like, damn. You get a greater appreciation for greatness. Yeah. Because you understand that it's just, and there's levels to greatness. There's levels to greatness. That it is. I think the casual fan really wouldn't understand it.
Starting point is 00:18:07 The casual fan, I think those that have played the game, play the sport, and see it a little bit differently and understand what you're witnessing beforehand, seeing Brady play, seeing Pat Mahomes, seeing stuff like that, and the dynasties and that they're creating the situations on how great certain situations are, especially when they end that Brady and Belichick era. Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid era, watching the greatest of LeBron, people not understanding and always having something negative to say, watching the greatness of the brawn for so long,
Starting point is 00:18:42 now understanding how great what we're witnessing is until there's no longer there. It ain't hit you. It ain't hit you now. It ain't hit nobody yet. You got to wait until they're done. Then you'll see how great Steph Curry is. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:58 They don't understand yet. Yeah. I mean, and there'll be other great players. And but then you'll have, I was like, man, man, you remember when, uh, man, you remember when Braun and Katie? Man, you remember when Steph Curry and such and such? Just like Bird and Magic, just like Jordan and this one, Elijah Juan and in Shaq. Right.
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Starting point is 00:19:50 Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts takeaway. They sold that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Might want to go back to the Dr. At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year.
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Starting point is 00:23:50 My worth is not wrapped up in how many things I've won, because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was over, I got the blues, and I was like, This is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey. It's the people. It's the failures. It's the heartache.
Starting point is 00:24:12 Listen to the bright side on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It'll be just like that. The Miami Dolph has announced their captains for the 2025 season Monday, but there is one glaring omission for the first time since joining the team in 2022. Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates. Rik himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere. Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year. The team was much more unified and the focus was on those six guys was very clear. those were resounding vote getters. We were focused on giving the keys to captaincy to guys that had earned it each and every day. That speaks to me the most is football team that knows who it wants to be led by. Yeah, that's cute.
Starting point is 00:25:21 That's cute. It's commendable. You know, having your peers on your team, you know, vote you as a captain. Yeah. Nope. You know, honestly. That'd be nice, man.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I wanted to captain C on my jersey. That's cool. Honestly, for me, my dolphins, my dolphins, and those of you in the chat, I'm from Liberty City, born in Jackson Memorial Hospital, in the 8 County, all 12th Avenue.
Starting point is 00:25:41 What I care about is my dolphins playing well in the postseason. Is my dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above 500? Is my dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees? I don't care who's carrying that sea
Starting point is 00:25:56 on that goddamn chest. I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most. That's it. That's it. But look, there's no way it would have been a joke
Starting point is 00:26:12 if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and he's a captain. They wasn't going to let that happen, no, Joe. Even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't going to be no captain. They wouldn't let that happen, oh, Joe. You know that, I know that.
Starting point is 00:26:27 We know how it worked. We know... Who they want to be captains. Come on now. Okay. Okay. Okay. We're on the same page.
Starting point is 00:26:35 We're here. Yeah. We're here. Yeah. But look, look, I think Reek learned a valuable lesson. I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way. He's going through some stuff right now. Rick, my heart goes, I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I absolutely do. And I know there's a lot on your mind. Anybody to, you know, being there. It's going to be, hey, don't work, bro. It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it. But when you're going through it, so, I mean, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Because, like, you do things, like, you end it, Ocho. And you're like, in the minute you do, you're like, damn. But I don't, I mean, Rick was in a great situation. Yeah. I mean, he went to Miami. That's where he wanted to go. I mean, they could have traded him someplace else.
Starting point is 00:27:37 They ask him. I mean, like, Ocho, think about this, Ocho. They ask you where you want to go. You want to go to the Jets? You want to go to the Dolphins. Yeah. They put it where he wanted to be. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:27:50 When you had the season come off, he led the league and receiving. He was, hey, remember last year, Ocho, he was the number one player, voted by his peers. in the top 100. Yeah. Your quarterback gets nicked. You're not the same reek. People like, you know, he didn't lose it.
Starting point is 00:28:07 He's just, it's quarterback got hurt. He's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone. The guy's been injury prone since college. He limped into the NFL. He probably going to limp out of it. He had a lot of injuries when he was in Alabama, Ocho. You know, he had the tightrope surgery on his ankle. He had the dislocated hill.
Starting point is 00:28:30 He had the injury, the pinky. He had an injury history. Yeah. And guess what? He's had a concussion, or I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the dolphins. And Tyreek's future is tied. His success, his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Yeah. It's kind of like, Ocho, you relying on somebody. that's unreliable to get you to work. Man. It's tough. It's tough. And then he didn't make it no better because he could have just went there
Starting point is 00:29:19 and said, like, I'm happy to be in Miami. It's great, great weather, great team. But every chance he gets, he tried to take a shot at Mahomes. O-2 is more this than Mahomes. Oh, this is more this. that and this bro you don't need to do that nobody you're not even though you play with both you're not going to convince anybody that tour is a better quarterback to my homes you're not so why
Starting point is 00:29:41 you try to do that i believe you could oh cho i believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down yeah well in that situation that's not putting a guy down because you can't put my homes down especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position but I think Rick has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up last year. Obviously, them not voting him a captain. Boom, that's another one. Okay, y'all ain't want to vote me a captain? Okay, hold my beer.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Watch this. Watch this. And he's going to go slap me. I hope so. Go slap off. Because, I mean, you know, he's a special talent. There are not very many guys that's played in the history of the game that had his God-given ability. That can take a ride, that can take any route on the field.
Starting point is 00:30:28 and he's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goalpost. Now we say that, oh, you give him a fire. No, no, no, no, no. There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them and you can strike up the band.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Yeah, every time. And you see the, you see, hey, you see the, he doing that, the band player. Yeah. And Rick has that accountability. He just needs to get back to that. And hopefully he can focus I think being on the field
Starting point is 00:31:00 it allows you to like tunnel visual, Joe. Yeah. It allows you to lock you in. You got to compartmentalize. That's what's really good with a great at it. That's the one place.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Doesn't matter what's going on in life. You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass, it's different. Everything else is left outside. No. No, I don't know. Somebody said,
Starting point is 00:31:26 you put a tour down and put Tyreek up? No, I just said he's not Mahomes. He's a good quarterback. He's not my homes. And Tyreek's
Starting point is 00:31:37 production is tied to a guy that's injury prone. Did I lie? How many concussions have he had? How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama? I'm just giving you facts.
Starting point is 00:31:50 I ain't say he wasn't a bad player. He's a terrible player. That's not what I said. I said, Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone. That's factual.
Starting point is 00:32:03 That ain't no, that ain't, that ain't, you know, stretching the truth. That's not a lie. That is just factually correct. Yeah. And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17,
Starting point is 00:32:16 1,800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys. But if you go back and look at it, look at his production. It's 1,300. It's 1,400. It's 1,500. it's 1,300, it's 1,400.
Starting point is 00:32:28 It didn't have, though, it didn't have 1,800, and then 900. Right. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1,600 one year than 1,000. 1,000, then 800. Nah, you want to be consistent. Hey, let me be somewhere that consistent. Let me be 11 to 1,300.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I can live with that. Right. One year, if I won't have, you know, have one of your bust out years, I get me two or three, 200-yard gains. I'd be on to something. But, no, I just think the thing isn't like, you know, you're emotional. Things didn't go your way.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You're like, damn, I'm going to get 100 yards. I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know, yard seasons, Ocho, that's going to come to an end. Damn, we're going to miss the playoff. That's going to come to an end. Yeah. And he just got frustrated and it bubbled up. That's all.
Starting point is 00:33:23 It bubbled up. made a mistake he'd probably take he'd take and he said it i you know i should have handled that differently wish i'd have handled it differently and uh you know lesson learned and uh i believe i believe you i believe you've learned his lesson i do yeah absolutely you're gonna bounce back yeah um but and i think macdonald says that you know let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain they're deserving better captains that's who they want to lead uh bradley chub it's time for chub to come out there and you know play like the chub like they they gave up the draft picks for it to get him
Starting point is 00:34:05 from denver it's time for him to play it's time for him to show um because it looks like ocho they they kind of taking this thing apart they let you know calais campbell go they let jalen ramsie go they let some of the you know they let christian wilkins go a few years ago so it seems like you know going for it, going for it, going for it. Now they're like, they get young and younger, huh? Mm-hmm. Get young and young. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:34:54 That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? It looks like something that should not be sold. Oh, my. So that was my other big Colts take away. They sold that? Yes. Might want to go back to the Dr.
Starting point is 00:35:02 At the Colts Stadium. Yeah, I might want to go back to the drawing board on that. Yeah. I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations. We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
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Starting point is 00:38:43 I'm Simone Boyce, host of the Brightside podcast, and on this week's episode, I'm talking to Olympian, World Cup Champion, and podcast hosts, My worth is not wrapped up in how many things I've won because what I came to realize is I valued winning so much that once it was over I got the blues and I was like, this is it. For me, it's the pursuit of greatness. It's the journey. It's the people. It's the failures. It's the heartache. Listen to the bright side on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dolphins C.D. Lamb denounced rumors that Micah Parsons was considered both egotistical and self-centered. That's my dog. He knows it. I expressed to him just about every week I could. So I feel like he knows where we stand as far as a brotherhood, friendship, and all that.
Starting point is 00:39:42 So obviously wishing him the best. Hope he has the best season ever. Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room like Micah. and he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former cowboys. He didn't name names, but it was pretty clear Diggs were referring to DeMargis Lawrence. I think everyone liked him. I feel there was some former players who not here no more who didn't like Micah. There's a lot of that. I would say hate jealousy, every towards him because of who he is,
Starting point is 00:40:06 and the production that he does on the field. Imagine if you could come here and you're talking like somebody shine or taking somebody's spot, you're not going to like that. They're going to feel some type of way, especially you're that type of person. the great of the person, listen, because sometimes I think people, the greater the athlete, the greater the individual,
Starting point is 00:40:34 the bigger the ego. Quarterbacks have the biggest ego, they do the best job of hiding it. The great of the person, the greater the person, the greater the person, player, the more accomplished the person is, so are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego? Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, Mariah ain't have no ego? Are we saying, are we saying Elon Musk and whomever got no ego? So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
Starting point is 00:41:11 Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown, they have no ego. They all do. The greater the person, the more accomplish the person. More successful. Yeah, all of them. Man, what we do? What we doing here? Everybody's not going to be liked. And that's okay.
Starting point is 00:41:32 What you do when you get on the field, bro? Long as you ain't a jerk, not long as you're not doing anything that's going to, that's going to harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room. Bro, I don't care nothing about that, bro. Yeah. Yeah. First of all, I ain't going to, I ain't going to your house. like that anyway.
Starting point is 00:41:50 So what you do? I don't care. Look, this is my locker right here, Ocho. This is my locker right here. Long as you don't F with nothing in my locker, don't give down what you do. I ain't messing with nothing in your locker. You got a job to do?
Starting point is 00:42:06 I got a job to do. Hey, man, how you do? We don't have to be friends. We can be friendly. Two different things, Ocho. I mean, it's a locker room, huh? You got 50. you got 53 people. Everybody's not going to get along. Yeah. Everybody's not going to get
Starting point is 00:42:24 along. You're going to have egos. You're going to have people with pride. You're going to have jealousy, you know. And it's just, it's always, it's always been a part of sports. It's always been a part of locker rooms. It's always been a part of teens in general. You're not going like everybody. Nope. You're not there. This is, it's not a liking contest. You're there for one job. do your job. Is it? I like you more if you do your job good. I like you even more.
Starting point is 00:42:56 But, look, I, look, I don't, you know, clearly CD and Diggs has a fondness to with Micah. I've been around him a little bit. I don't have no problem with Michael, never had a problem with it. He's a funny, funny dude. That's why I, is it hearing, hearing anything come up about ego? and especially when to come to him, he's a funny guy, he's young,
Starting point is 00:43:23 you know, like, it's weird. It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves. We knew that was going to happen. Funny how that works. You know, you ever notice? The guy was, oh, he was a problem on the job. 15, for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:43:38 ain't nobody say nothing. The moment somebody leaves, yeah, yeah, he was a problem. Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too. Yes. Let's add that. Oh, Joe, Vegas has. As Lamar Jackson, at the back, he's back on top for the MVP odds.
Starting point is 00:43:52 The reigning MVP, Josh Allen and Joe Barrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600. Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650. Is this the year? Lamar puts it all together, wins MVP and a Super Bowl. I mean, it could be the year. It could be the year. If it was going to happen, this is a funny thing when it comes about, when it comes to not just Lamar Jackson
Starting point is 00:44:20 but Josh Allen and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC, it's always from the same, the same four. Yes. The same four. Same four. Now, what Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:44:34 What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? That's all that matters. So we know nobody going to do in the regular season. Yes. We're going to put up crazy numbers. Yes. I'm going to rush for crazy numbers. But what Lamar Jackson, whatever Lamar Jackson, we get in the postseason,
Starting point is 00:44:48 that will be if those odds in Vegas come true. That's all that come down to. That's all I've said. I said, I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finish second. We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs. We've seen it for a game, Ocho. But we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year.
Starting point is 00:45:13 They didn't turn the ball or he didn't turn the ball over for like eight, nine games. Right. And then he had two big turnovers. And that was, you know, some of that's undoing. Like, look, and I get it, such a hold on to the ball. Zay Fly was fumbled on the one. But he did give the, he did give the chiefs of short field. He got stripped in the pocket.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I just need Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season. I don't need anything else. I don't need anything else, Ocho. I don't need him to be anything other than what he's shown us for the 17, for the 17 games in the regular season. If he's that, if he's that player, can nobody beat the Ravens? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:45:58 No. Well, I don't know about nobody. Ocho, the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks. Hold on, hold on, huh? Now, don't jump on me. Don't jump on me. This is a new season. With everything you just named
Starting point is 00:46:13 is what he did last year. Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal within the AFC North. They own y'all. Come again? They own y'all. Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bengals.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Let me do something. The Ravens, that's your team, huh? Or you're supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at? Two years. Okay, two years, two weeks is all the same. You want to best something on that game? Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money. Huh?
Starting point is 00:46:47 oh you know i'm hey listen i'm good for it like when i go no you ain't good for it like when i go to the casino they just hand they just give me what i want because they know they understand oh oh cho you here oh we know you we know we're gonna take care you what you need no what's your money line what i'm i'm i'm a file of what you call them on you i'll file i'll press charges on you i ain't do nothing how you're going to press charges you'll be 5900 and you won't pay hold on hold on hold on my is it is it written on paper? They heard it. Oh, yeah, they got it. We got it on paper.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Where's it? I didn't sign nothing. I'm, I'm... You ain't got a sign, though. We got it. We got a verbal contract. You bet me. A verbal... Yeah, Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract, too. Nah, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. We got this. I showed the tape. Your honor here, it is right here. This is it. Oh, Joe, I bet you. Johnny, we're going to get you out of here on this one.
Starting point is 00:47:44 This clip from your Glory Days podcast is gone viral. Let's show the chat. In my draft last, the Browns had two picks. With the sixth pick, we took Justin Gilbert from Oklahoma State. Oh, you. Okay. And I get the most wave of shit for
Starting point is 00:48:00 being a bust and this and that. I wasn't even the biggest fucking, and respect to Justin Gilbert, I love as him as a human being, but we both flamed out. We both fucking struggled. And he went 14, 15, 16 picks before me. So, like,
Starting point is 00:48:16 I'm not even the biggest bust in my class from the Browns. Damn, Johnny. I was feeling some type of way that day, on. Clearly, clearly. You're like, hold on, y'all are, y'all killing me. But what about the guy that went top ten? I mean, I wanted to be in that pick. Like, that's right.
Starting point is 00:48:39 We were talking about going to Cleveland. I wanted to go to Cleveland at six. I wanted to go to Cleveland for whatever the pick was. Like, if you're going to send me to Ohio, at least send me with $20 million instead of $8. Like, what the fuck? Bail. I'll love to Justin Gilbert. Look, I think, you know, from a Brown's draft perspective from that year, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:03 Joel Betonio is still playing and doing well for Cleveland right now. But all around, miss, you know, I think I will always be looked at and viewed at because of how much hype. and, you know, media and everything that was around me and the city of Cleveland expecting me to be great and that ultimately not panning out, listen, you know, I sit here today and I go back and forth with, man, am I going to let Cleveland off the hook and just like let it go or am I going to sit here with hate and animosity in my heart for the rest of my life? And I finally sit here today. I'm like, fuck it. I think I'm going to be pissed at them and hate them forever. So it is what day.
Starting point is 00:49:44 It is what it is, man. No love for the Browns. I'm rooting for 0 and 16 seasons every season. Damn. John, let me ask you this. As you sit here today and after all the things you've gone through, we sat down a little over a year ago and we had a conversation, had a great conversation.
Starting point is 00:50:01 And I think a lot of people got an opportunity to see you in a different light. Knowing what you know now, you're back in that situation, but you know what you know now. What would you have done differently? Would you have done anything different leading up to the draft? Would you have done anything different in college? What are some of the things that Johnny would have done differently to make sure this outcome that we're talking about never happens?
Starting point is 00:50:24 Look, there was a moment in time, and we spoke about it on the podcast, was, you know, after that Oklahoma Cotton Bowl game, you know, things changed for me, and I went from Johnny Mansell to Johnny football. And, like, looking back on it now, and people ask me if you could go back in time and do it differently, there is that split moment in time, like, in the locker room after that game where my first.
Starting point is 00:50:44 focus would have shifted to let's get to national championship the next year. Let's get to San Diego and start training again and like get ready and geared up for this season because we got Mike Evans returning. We got a bunch of guys on this team who can come back and make a real run. And that's one thing that just never sits right with me to this day. Just like the untapped potential of the whole thing and the real opportunity. If I want to see Texas A&M win a national championship, well, that was a real, real opportunity for us. And it just didn't come to fruition. And, you know, I sit here today and a lot of people will hear me speak.
Starting point is 00:51:20 And as I tell stories and, you know, I'm doing the podcasting stuff. You know, people will always be like, you know, I'm blaming stuff on other people or I'm not accountable or anything like that. But listen, at the end of the day, everything that I've got in my life and that's happened to me throughout my football career is only because of one person, myself and the decisions that I've made as a man in this life. So was Cleveland the best situation for me to go to? Did they help me knowing all the things that they knew about me? With all the research and everything, did they put me in the best situation? Absolutely not. It was not the right situation for me.
Starting point is 00:51:59 But when it comes down to it, you take all of that aside, you throw it away and you look in the mirror and you say, I've let an amazing opportunity slip. It's on me. I'm the one that has to sit with myself every single night. as I watch college football or watch NFL football and be like, damn, I would be in my 12th year. I would be X, Y, and Z. I'm the one that has to lay my pillow down, lay my head on the pillow every night and be like, that coulda, would, or should have, but it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And at the end of the day, a lot of my life as I've been out of football has been like, what am I going to be able to do to find a spark, to be able to be happy, to be able to give me something like football did give me. And you know what? maybe it wasn't meant to be for me. I didn't put in the time and the effort and determination that you need to be great that both of you guys did for the sport. And that was just maybe my stupidity, my youth, or what it was meant to be.
Starting point is 00:52:55 But nevertheless, you know, I take accountability for everything and what it is. You know, I really didn't harm anybody other than myself when it's all said and done. So, you know, we're still sitting here today rocking, rolling, happy. And we're on the nightcap show now, baby. every Saturday, let's go. That's what I'm talking about. Johnny, did it come too easy? Did football come too easy to you?
Starting point is 00:53:18 You look at what you did. You went down to Tuscaloosa and you became a household name. Everybody knew who you were after you went in there and did what you did to Coach Saban. Did football come too easy for you after that? Man, I don't know. I think I started to, you start to get a little bit of ego on the football field, right? You start to see what you're doing in practice and how you're playing and like making certain throws. and the scrambling where you're just doing certain things that are just like jumping off
Starting point is 00:53:46 the page and you're noticing them too. So it gives you a bravado and a confidence. And when people on a college football field, you know, I think this is why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad because as I'm going and playing on Saturdays, I'm like, these dudes can't fuck with me. Like they really can't. They want to. And even guys who are good from opposing teams, you'll come up to each other after the
Starting point is 00:54:11 game and they'll be like, damn, you're everything we thought you were going to be. You're cold. So like as you're getting respect from your peers on this level too, it does heighten your sense. It does give you a sense of ego and bravado and, you know, you add the social media wave and, you know, at that point in time, sports center every single night and you're taking over the world, you know, it does make you feel invincible. So I know there was a lot of hard work that went into everything that happened and the reason that I played as well as I did on the field is because I did work my ass off from the time
Starting point is 00:54:45 I was in high school to college and it all played itself out. I think you start to see the down, you know, the downslide and everything else when the hard work takes itself out. So, you know, that's what I always tell kids nowadays who ask me and look at my story and look at everything. It's like, listen, I had all the talent in the world. You can go run a go route, put your hand up and have a guy draped over you. I'll drop it in the bucket. You can go meet me in the A gap and really think you have me covered to tackle and I'll meet. mix you out of your shoes when it comes down to it, you've got to work hard and you've got to consistently do it day in and day out, even when you don't want to.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And if you don't want to do it, guess what? There's somebody right next door or somewhere else that wants to take your spot and want to trade places with you. And look what happened to me. You know, the NFL is a game where you get replaced like this. Johnny, thanks for joining us tonight. Welcome to the team. Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny's podcast on YouTube, Glory Day.
Starting point is 00:55:39 with Johnny Manzell. Johnny, thank you for joining us, man. We'll see you next week, bro. Have a good time. Enjoy it, boys. See next week. Much love. Did you see the Colts Pretzel?
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