Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 2: Mike Tomlin on HOT SEAT, Sauce Gardner SNAPS

Episode Date: January 3, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the best of NFL from week 18! They ponder if Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin could be on the hot seat if his team doesn’t defeat Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. Later, Sauce Gardner responds on X about why people don’t consider him a top 5 cornerback, but Shannon clarifies the real reason. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Mike Tomlin vs John Harbaugh Win or Lose Your Job Game?13:45 - Sauce Gardner goes off on critics22:25 - Joe Burrow on Myles Garrett record33:24 - Micah Parsons defends Trevon Diggs41:48 - Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase both looking for "change"52:33 - Giants top pick options (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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hold the door for everyone. I believe in that solely. So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Adam Schester estimate the Steelers Ravens' upcoming NFL season finale will have a broader implication on John Harbar and Mike Tomlin's job security. Shefter said today, somebody's going to lose that game, and when somebody loses that game,

We heard the Steeler fans chanting fire Mike Tomlin early this year. We've heard Ravens fans saying they should be a conversation about John Harbaugh after the season. One of those fan bases is going to be unhappy. She after says in the realm of possibility that Mike Tomlin leaves the Steeler with a loss on Sunday and goes does TV next season or coaching somewhere else in 2026. Oh, Cho. I don't see a scenario in which Mike Tomlin leaves and goes into TV, but what do you think is going to happen. Like you said, somebody got to lose. Somebody has to lose, honestly

I don't see Mike Tomlin. One thing the Steelers have never done the Steelers have never fired anybody. They've never fired anybody. If I'm not mistaken. Well, not anybody since 1960s. I don't think it's going to happen now. It's never been a part of what they do. I just, now, Harbaugh

on other instance, I mean, are the Ravens closer to winning with Harbaugh? At the helm, do they need another voice, like you always say, in that building? Maybe so. I'm not sure how they feel about them. There are so many different things that need to go right for the Ravens now, for them to get back in contention and be able to compete, you know, for Lombardi,

you know, year and year out. For one, they got to get your quarterback situation right. I'll be honest with you, I don't think either is close. I don't think either's close to winning a Super Bowl. No, no, no. But listen, well, changing coaches put you further behind the eight ball. It don't put you no closer. You go, you tear it down and build it back up?

Let me ask you a question. Did it move Chicago closer or further away? What did they have in place? What's the one important piece of every team? You say they got Lamar Jackson. You say they got it. What they need? Well, damn, I need you to make up your mind.

Either Lamar is that or he isn't. Yes, he is that. Okay, then, so maybe a new... Changing the quarterback is going to do what? I didn't say, we're talking about coaching. We don't move back. Okay, okay, okay. Well, yeah, changing the coaching.

Well, hell, coach the Harbaugh don't play defense. He don't play DB. And he definitely ain't no defense in. Y'all, you know what pieces your team need to be able to compete. And they don't have it right now. They just don't.

I don't think either team is close. And I don't think either team is close with the coaches that they have. How about this? What do you think about Brian Flores coming to Baltimore? Who is going to be as OC? Do I think, I look, I, I, I, I, I, I, me personally, they need personnel. They need better personnel on defense. They need a, they need a right guard.

But they need defense out of yang, yang. Could they use another receiver? Yeah. They need a big, I mean, I don't know what happened with Rashad Bateman this year. He is a bigger receiver, but they need, they need a big receiver. Watch Kansas City going to go get a big receiver. God damn, Kansas City got a slew of them boys over there, huh? I mean, we, I mean, we talked about Rashid Rice last year.

Like, he was the second coming of, um. got a huge catch radius. When you got guys 5, 8, 5, 9, 5, 10, Ocho, how big is the catch radius? Rish Rites? He's tall, ain't he? I thought he was like 6-4-6-5. Man, please. Oh, I'm, yeah, but, you know, on TV, I ain't ever seen him in person.

And boy, but he looks... How tall is Rish Rite? Is Rish Rite 6'5? He looked tall as hell on TV. No, he don't look tall to me. They say he's 6-1. Okay, so he, he, he, uh, he's 4-1. How tall is Hollywood?

Okay, Hollywood. They're short. Zay short. I mean, I see them all the time. They're from the crib. Mm-hmm. How tall is Juju? Is Juju six foot tall?

No. Juju, Juju not tall either. Say Juju 6-1. Shoot, I'm six-four. They could bring me back. I think I might be able to out run Juju, though. Juju never a burner, unk. You ain't no burner?

so if he wasn't a burner eight years ago how fast is he now a little bit slower a tad bit he might not know it oh he knows it you know it hey if these eight these team need a weapon man i'm always available i'm always available i look at it like this here hojo if a team can fire Bill Belichick with six Super Bowls and 10 Super Bowl appearances. God dang it, they can fire Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh. Listen, when you use that analogy, that perspective, you know, for better context, that's a possibility.

But all you, hold on, you got to understand. What message are you sending your team, your players, and your fans when you say, you know what, we let in Harbaugh go, we let Mike Tomlin go. We started all over from scratch. Let me ask you this. When you throw furniture out and put new furniture in what message is you sending? Well, you ain't got the furniture to bring in. How about that?

You ain't got no furniture. What do you mean? What furniture you're going to bring in? A new coach is furniture. Damn. Are you listening to life? You got new furniture, but still got the same people sitting on it? What's shit?

What's going to be the difference? Yeah, you're the same people When your grandma got a new Got a new couch It got the old couch You and Charleston You and Charleston would still Had your ass on the couch

Hell no Hey Hey I tell you what Like all jokes aside The Ravens organization The Steelers organization They have some tough decisions to make

I'm very very tough ones Yeah, very tough ones. And honestly, for me, the fact that the way Lamar is being done because he's had this one injury seat, this one injury prone season and the stuff coming out about him that we knew nothing about and all of a sudden people that are not in that building, they all of a sudden know about it means it's coming from inside the house, you know? So, you know, at that point, I would much rather him have new scenery, go somewhere else and start and start over i get a prime example look at indy reed they fired andy read in philly he went to kansas city now he's the hall of fame now you can make a case

that he's a top five coach in the history of the game jeffrey lorry had to say you know what you're taking us as far as we can go. Maybe Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh is taking these teams as far as they can take them. Maybe somebody else need to navigate. And that's okay. I'm not saying they're bad coaches, but maybe it's just time for a different voice to be heard in the locker room. Damn.

Hey, you hear that? Time for a new voice. It's an outlier. Everybody's an outlier. So what was Tom Brady? Tom Brady, he's an outlier. Let me get this right. Peyton Manning, he's an outlier.

Of course, they're outliers. Well, I'm just saying. So what, you just hold on to him. I guess it sounds good, though. Mike Tomlin has never had a losing season. I thought the job was to win. I thought the job was to win and win championships. So, in the last decade, how close have the Steelers come to winning a championship?

Realistically, let's be honest. Making the playoffs just because you make the player, come on. Because they've lost the first round every time in the last decade. So realistically, how close have they been? I'm waiting on you, Steelers fans. I know y'all black and yellow and all that, the terrible towers. How close Steelers fans, realistically, in the last decade, have you been to winning a championship? You know, you got affiliation over there in Baltimore, huh?

You played that you won a ring there. You know, that? Yeah. realistic. I was realistic with the Bronco. You don't even see where I'm going with it, though. If that opportunity for you know, a head coach position gives it up. No, hell no. Can you imagine that? Coach Sharp.

I don't, I want no part. I like talking about football. I don't want to look at no tape. I don't want to look at tape and try to evaluate players and bring players in and none of that. But you know, I got the, my time. You know exactly what you're looking for. You know exactly what you need. I do. You might be the perfect. person for the job and that's that's the problem god is what i look at for a choke something by

five six five seven five eight with some hood of other jeans no no i mean no that's what i'm trying to evaluate i mean see since you say i know what i'm looking for hey hey okay how many how many they how long before you off probation uh uh you know i got i'm got you 30. Are you good? You good. You good. You good.

You good. Hey, but I, listen, I'm first one on board. Lamar. I know, shit, Lam might be watching, honestly. All, hey, it's so funny. All them boys be tuned in, and they don't even, but they don't type nothing in the chat. that. They be tuned in.

Ocho, insane stat the Steelers are winless, 04 and 1 in the last five games versus teams entering with eight plus games below 500 tied to longest streak in NFL history. In 22, they lost, excuse me, in 2020, they lost to the Bengals who were 210 and 1. In 21, they tied the 0 and 8 lions.

In 2023, they lost to the 2 and 10 Cardinals. In 23, they lost to the 2 and 10 Patriots. In 25, they lost to the Three in 12 Browns. Hey, you think Sterling want to coach? What? No. Bro, I can't get him to come on once a month.

You're talking about coach. I'm just saying, hey, you're a brilliant mind when it comes to the game. And I'm telling you are probably what not only the NFL needs, but the players in today's game need. Giving them players, listen, it's a different era, but you coming in with those, your old, ways and mixing that and balancing it in moderation, allowing them to have a little structure of discipline, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, you keep denying God's calling, and that's the problem. Yeah.

I come be your assistant. Now, I'm good. I don't watch enough tape as it is. I ain't, I don't, I don't, I ain't got time for guys to come. I'm becoming in late, because I don't, I don't do the excuse thing. They're not going to come in late with you. That's the point I'm trying to make. I think the thing, because I had to learn.

I had to learn with Club Shay-Shay, because, you know, I'm thinking the interview, they say 1 o'clock, they say 12 o'clock. Okay, 12 o'clock, we're starting, we're starting. 1215, 1230, 1, 130, 1.30, 2 o'clock. You know, famous people, they're famous people, be on their own time. They ain't got no regard for nobody. else time. They're the one that set the time up.

Yeah. They got, how you set the time up in late? They got to do hair and makeup and all that. You notice when we did our club, Shaysay, you notice I was there 30, 40 minutes early? I wouldn't go quite 30, 40 minutes early,

but you were, you were on time. I was 30, 40 minutes early because I was outside smoking a cigar. I beat you there. Yeah. I said it was going to be at 1 o'clock. I got there at 12.45.

And I got there at 12.10, because I knew I knew I wanted. wanted to smoke and drink my coffee outside. Yeah, see, I'll be on, I'd be on time. Like, my God, on time. What's up? It's Cam Jordan. I'm back with season three of your favorite podcast, The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast.

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I only had 22 targets through seven games. I don't get targeted as much as 99.8% of the other corners in the league. Only like 50% of those got completed. Two touchdowns allowed. One was on a busted coverage. But at the beginning of the year, only 208 yards allowed all year. Some receivers go for 100 in one game. And I'm missing something?

Am I missing something? Also, in my opinion, having a cornerback that take away half the field is a of having a nice juvie. Oh, Joe, what's going on? What's sauce talking about? What's really going on with some? When we talk about some of the better corners in the league, I think his name needs to be in the conversation

because I think he played in New York. He's seen more and always highlighted more. Since his rookie season, I think he had, I can't remember how many recents he had his rookie season, but they have dipped off, but he's still a very, very, very good man-to-man corner. He can take away a team's best receiver. And he does follow the number one receiver side to side wherever he goes.

I think still to this day, he needs to be in that top five conversation of one of the better DVs in the league when you look at the numbers. Don't say you don't like him for whatever reason it may be. Sometimes he can be a little handsy. Sometimes he can get a call. But he's still a lockdown corner in man-to-man in today's NFL. if you break down the numbers. Don't just say you don't like him and just say, oh, he gets toasted or he gets beaten.

No, let's break down the numbers and compare it to the other good TVs in the NFL, and then you will see he is the top corner still. And he doesn't get targets, so he's not going to have the interceptions that some other players have. No, he don't have hands. That's why he don't have interceptions.

He can't catch. No, but I think, Me, I just don't, I, when I look at him, Ocho, I look at him his first year and his second year, and I don't see that same effectiveness. Now, that's not to say that he's not, and maybe that's as high as, as good as it gets. Because Rebus was good, but that 2009 season was out of this world.

So if you compare him against his best, then what do we do it? And so maybe, maybe, maybe Saul set the bar so high and so unrealistic that that was something that he was never going to be able to maintain for three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine years. And also for DBEs, based on the way the public, those who enjoy watching the game, fans that love watching the game, they just look at numbers, interception. But yes. If you're not getting the opportunities to make the plays, It's really nothing he as a DB can do. And I think if you have a DB like sauce,

which is why they gave two first round first rounders form, because I understand not only are we all in, we believe he can take one side to feel away from us, and we can do that much more exotically, defensively, with everybody else. Yeah. But that's the thing, that's the expectation of that he came in and was so good his rookie season.

And they tried him as rookie season, too. They kept throwing at him. Yeah. He kept picking him things off like a booker. And he, new coordinators, I mean, you know, are they still playing him the same style? The thing is that Revis was in that Rex Ryan defense, very aggressive, a lot of man-to-man coverage. Even Coach Belichick, when he got him, put him in man-coverage. He's not his own

He's not his own corner He likes to be handsy You look at him when he was at Tampa You know even though I think Didn't he tear his knee at Tampa I think that's where he got hurt I ain't know he got hurt He told his ACL

Yeah you know he was at Tampa I know he's at Tampa I didn't know he tore his I ain't know he messed up it Ain't that where he tore his ACL Yeah I ain't know that Man look when people talk about the top corners, they talk about PS2,

they talk about Stingley, they talk about Gonzalez, they talk about P2, Junior, Gonzales, Jalen Johnson, Jalen Johnson. Jalen Johnson, hey, boy, he's, hey, he is that boy.

Uh, I'm trying to Who's the NFC corners? J.C. Hornblee belongs in the conversations as well. J.C. Hornbilt belongs in that conversation as well. When we talk about the better corners. Oh, yeah, Mitchell. Mitchell, Cooper DeJohn, and who's the other? Is A.J. Terrell, did A.J. Terrell make it?

We know Mitchell and DeJon are two. I don't know who the other is. Is it J.C. Horn? But, hey, bro, that thing is ever evolving. It's hard, it's hard to stay at the top for a period of man because them joke was coming absolutely it's hard absolutely okay oh yeah uh spoon spoon from uh yeah the nipple wet 21 yeah spoon and uh jacques horn

tarry well hell if that's it we might with oh tarry tarreek woolen in it too uh denzil ward We got about him So the names You know You go Denzel War You go Pat Sertan You go Stingley

You go Gonzales J.J. Horn as well Horn You go Mitchell You go Dejohn You go A.J. Terrell Bro You look

Hey When you When you get When you get injured When you get injured Starders. Right. Jadabian Clowny's had a solid first season in Dallas,

and now the Cowboys are hoping to bring the veteran defensive end back in free agency. Stephen Jones said team absolutely wants to resign Jadabian in pre-agency. He's played at a very high level. We'll be talking to his guy right away, hopefully willingness, willingness to want to be here

and wanting him to be. here, hopefully we can figure something out. Kleiny signed a one-year deal for $3.5 million with the Cowboys in September after going unsigned this offseason playing the first four game of the team in week four, his first game in week four.

In 12 games, the former number one overall pick has longed 35 tackled, five and a half sacks, and three passes defended. Yeah. He's going to come back and say, hey, give me, you know, hey, look, I led the team in sacks, you know, put some incentives in there,

give me $4, $4,000, give me $5 million, let me if I lead the team in sacks, if I leave if I get 10 sacks, let me get a minute, you know, something like that, no joke. Because you're in Dallas, there ain't no state taxes. So you keep it a, you know, you keep it a large chunk of your money. Yeah, give me, give me, give me,

you keep it about $630,000 off every million. I don't mean to count the man pockets, but I'm just saying. Give me, give me, give me, give me about the let me get an opportunity to get about $67 million in the sentence. Yeah, give me that. Give me that. I, I could do, I can do,

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Shot Ready isn't just a memoir. It's a playbook for anyone chasing their potential. Discover stories, strategies, and over 100 never-before-seen photos. Order Shot Ready. Now at stephen currybook.com. Don't miss Stephen Curry's New York Times bestseller Shot Ready, available now. that oh Joe Joe burrow discussed the mindset when facing miles Garrett and weed 18 as Garrett closed in on the NFL sack record burrow said I'm certainly not to go to overcompensate either way I'm not going to go out of my way to not let him get the record and I'm not going to go out of my way to let him get the record either way

I'm going to play football yeah there's going to be a situation best of the bad outcome of that play and maybe I take one. There's going to be other situation that I'm about to get sacked and I need to throw it away in that situation. I love his mindset. I like it too, I like it too, but obviously the person that he need to be asking

that question to is the officer line. That's what should have been asked to. Obviously, reporters don't want to go there. They probably don't want to ask that to them. But listen, I was very hesitant in saying I don't want Miles Garrett to get the sack record, you know, against the Bengals. But the fact that I'm going to be at the game and I asked him for the jersey that he gets a sack record with, I'm going to allow him to get one sack.

I'm going to allow him to get one sack. But now I'll be in the building, Joe, to be able to collect that jersey I asked for. So you know what? Congratulations. You do realize Hall of Fame is going to be on the hand too often, right? I can tell you what. I tell you what. There's one thing, is it?

Listen, Miles Garrett could do two things. He can get the sack record on Sunday, and he can give that jersey to the Hall of Fame after he already promised me, or he can get that sack record and hand the jersey over to me like I asked, like he promised me first. So two things can happen.

You get a hand it to me and go ahead and live your life after making history, or you can get your ass one. I think he's going to take the second one. I think he's going to be. Yeah, I would hate a Joe, a Joe, I would hate to have to beat the fuck up out of Miles Garrett but choosing to give that damn jersey after I already asked for it.

I would hate, I would hate to have to do that. That's my boy. Oh, Joe, that's going down in history, man. That may get that sacrament. You think you're going to get that jersey? Yeah, Joe, I asked for it, Joe. Man, I asked for it. I'm telling Joe

I think you get two sacks on Sunday I said one we'll give him one we're giving one we're gonna give him two hold on one I think he gets the record or two breaks it yeah oh two breaks it okay okay okay okay okay one breaks it he has 22

want to give him 23 the record is 22 and a half oh yeah yeah yeah yeah hey Joe and he can give him another jersey let them put that in now but give me the original one I want to frame and I want to put it up in my game room. No, they're going to take that one because that that's the jersey going to have the dirt on it.

That's the jersey going to have the stains on it. They can put some most, they can put some stains on the other one. It ain't, it ain't nothing to go outside and rub that goddamn, well, that got to be true, but they got some people, people got some time. Hold on, so he can't keep his jersey for himself? He can if he won't to, but the Hall of Famer is going to request it. And it's an honor to have that jersey in the

of fame that's why a lot of the time britt tom stuff is in the hall and it's an honor it's an honor for ocho to have the jersey too no because it's going to probably end up in somebody auction high with ocho game not that ain't going to happen because it's going to be no reason for me oh choo ain't going to be here forever okay what's a what's ocho like like my kids what they do what i do with it how i cherish it that don't mean they're going to cherish it the same way Man, oh, my God. Hey, I know, listen, I love Miles, Gary, man. Miles, he promised me.

And one thing, one thing about a man, all we have is our word. It promised me that jersey, and you choose not to give it to me, two things going to happen. Karma, and I'm going to beat your ass. Well, I'm sure he's like, if I get that sack record, whatever karma comes with that, I mean, because he's, so young and he's so far ahead of the pace. Yeah.

There's a chance he can get Bruce's record of 200 and a half sacks or 202, whatever that case may be. They're the chance. Miles Garrett, I mean, he got a, how many sacks is getting married, Miles got? 120. He's way ahead of the pace. I mean, he's blistering. Yeah.

Now, the problem is the sack didn't become official stat until 1982. That was a sack of the quarterback in the 30s, 40, and 50. He got 1.24 and a half. He's not even 10 years in the league. What is he? His 8th year? He's nine years in the league. So he's averaging 12 and a half, 13 sacks a season.

Damn, that's crazy. I think Bruce. What did Bruce he played? 20, 19? Bruce came in 85. Bruce he came in in 85 and he left in 0, I think he left in 0,03. So Bruce prayed 19.

Man, get miles geared about it now, man. Reggie played. I think Reggie played like 16 to 17. He got 198 and a half. Joe, where you wanted to go, Joe? Man, come. Oh, Joe. And don't say Dallas.

Why not? See, yeah. Can he get out to the quarterback? Yeah, yeah, he can. Hell yeah. Yeah, he did one of the best to do it. One of the best to ever do it. You need to get in my body of that man,

let him go play some meaningful football now. I like the way it sound. I think he might be two or three years away from that joke. You think so? I don't think Cleveland just ready. I don't think Cleveland's ready to give him up just yet. How many years he ain't on that deal? I know he got a big deal.

How many years he? He signed a four-year deal, but he had two years left, so he got another five years on it. Yeah. I know one thing. He might not see them years. He won't give me that goddamn jersey, but I tell you that. Oh, Joe, you can cancel that, brother.

Hey, hey, there's going to be some things canceled. He's going to be me. But the problem is, Joe, I mean, Joe, is that they got, they got a lot of, you know, you're going to be a lot of suitors. Now, the Cowboys do have the Capitol because they got two first rounds next year and they got another two first rounds of the year. after yeah so they got the they got the arsenal to go gety yeah if cleveland's willing to let him

go and this would be this would be the good time to let him go on if the cleveland browns are serious about building something because they can get the most value for him right now not later you can get the most value the most pieces for him if you're serious about building and changing the culture over there in cleveland because when you didn't win with you him you didn't win with him so you know what you need you know what you need you can really help him team why yeah big time man look at this michael irby took his belt off ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha man crazy he were whooping the he were whoop in the uh trash yeah bad that dude hey oh joe why he ain't go to u m why he ain't go to the university miami what joe

man with that joke of grades joe he could get a grizzar with them grays Hey, Joe ain't had no grades to go there, Joe. Joe, I couldn't even get in the goddamn family, Joe. Joe, he couldn't get in prison with them, grades. Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, one high school, I was a knucklehead, Joe. And I'm not talking about a knucklehead, like, you know, in the street or just, Joe, I wasn't going to go in the school.

They come to school when you want to, leave when you want to. I already know. Hey, Joe, I went to school on Miami Beach, Joe. Miami Beach, Joe. Miami Beach, I was on South Beach for high school. That's what I was. My grandma ain't want me in the inner city where I grew up going to school with them boys. It would have been even worse.

So if I ain't do right over there, you know, with them folk, imagine me in the city with all my home boys. Joe, I was bad. If you get, Chad, if you get an opportunity to party with one guy in your lifetime, let it be Mike. If you get an opportunity to party with any athlete, any superstar, any podcaster, any person let it be Mike they go on like that huh let it be Mike he be having fun let it be Mike is the greatest Mike is the greatest one day I'm gonna tell y'all the story how Mike and I stole Gary Sheffield a Winnebago I started breaking that up during the interview Ocho right but Mike and I stole Gary Sheffield Winnebago at the Super Bowl

in Atlanta back in 99 I believe it at that what a time what a time what a time uh I think he breaks the record though Joe you think he gets the record you said he does get the record Joe you think he gets the record yeah yeah I know I know I know I know I see it and talking you know trying to support my team but Miles Garrett is probably he wasn't able to get it last week I'm not sure the bangle will go away from doing what the Steelers did where they were so worried about him getting the record.

They weren't able to play their game offensively. Exactly. It took away from them offensively. Yeah, you're doing thought. I mean, you're running booze and you run and rollout. You got the guy chipping that they can't get in routes real quick. People like, why? Gary Sheffield had to win a bagel.

Super Bowl. I'm like, hey, what I'm Chevy. Like, hey, what I'm shopping. How you doing? Mike, I'm like, Mike. Yeah, what are, you know how Mike is. You know Mike, Mike animated. What you doing, Sharp? I'm on whatever you on.

Let's just say, Sheffield Whit, eh, hey, we took the Winnebago. I called a cab to come get me the next morning. I couldn't drive the Winterbago. I couldn't drive the Winterbago home. Lord, have mercy. Boy, might go harder to paint, boy.

Hey, that was a great time. But great time was had, chat. Great time was head. Y'all know that. Oh, Joe. Michael was active today on Twitter. Oh, excuse me. X.

Defending his new teammate, Trayvon Diggs. First, a cowboy beat rider tweeted, Trayvon Diggs grave per football focus. I don't even look at pro football focus. 2020, it was 67.2, then 21, it was 59.6. 2020, it was 66.9. And 23, it was 80.2. Only two games, though.

24, it was 56.6. And 25 was 56.1. Statistically, he's the worst corner in the league right now. And the tape is even worse. Maybe we owe those guys at pro football focus an apology. Ocho? Yes, sir. Then Micah responded, I feel like, what the point they're trying to publicly disrespect

someone? He's not representing the star anymore. Just give the man a farewell, wish him the best. I don't know why everything has to be negative every time the breakup happens. He's better, he's in a better situation right now. Trust me, bro, gonna be great again. Then he added, y'all want me to feel bad? Jared Jones slammed my name to the Cowboys Media and National Media for months.

so do I think I can react to comments if I want to respectfully oh joe yeah man what's you thinking i mean listen i mean Michael at some point he's tired of it obviously when things don't work out why is it always the media once why not wish the players farewell why do you always have to bring up the negative about him on on on on on on why he's gone and and where he's at right now and i i don't understand it's it's tasteless to me it's classless to me. Most times when other players from other teams, they get traded, they send in their farewells.

They say, thank you, appreciate your work. I know things didn't work out the way they should. But, hey, every divorce, when it comes to the Cowboys and their players, it has to be nasty. It doesn't have to be. You know, you expect it from fans sometimes. Fans, yes. But, you know, the media in itself, there's so many other things that's going wrong in that organization.

You don't have to do the players like that. They did Micah like that. they said they were better without them then they put up these numbers they they found numbers in a way to to justify him not being there why it was okay and why they were in a better position and now with trevon digs they did the same thing well normally reporters don't do no farewell they might call you if they have your number they might that might be something privately I appreciate you you know you're talking to me you was always respectful and professional with me when I was here and you were here so I really really appreciate that I got a lot of that when I left them for the first time

even when I left Baltimore I had a lot of guys reach out and you know we stayed in contact for years they would call and ask me certain and things I could help them on I would be more than happy to help but normally publicly reporters can't wish you the best

that's not what their job that's not what their job is on show but I think the thing is that people like well Michael this divorce has happened five months ago yeah I think that's the thing people like bro you move

moved on with your life. You're happy. Yeah. I mean, but he, in, and since, in essence, for context, you've got to understand he was taking up for Trayvon. Yes. That's all. And just reminding them five months ago, they did him the exact same way. As much as

he's done for them, obviously, not being able to, you know, what the end goal is. The end goal is always to win a championship. He wasn't able to bring that, but they found ways to justify him leaving and some of the things that Jerry said, and obviously, you know, we talked about it in length when it happened, oh, he wasn't coming back.

There's no way an owner talks about a player like that publicly, and you're still in his team, and you think I'm going to represent you in the right way. I agree with you. Look, like I said last night, I'm not here to beat up Trayvon. He had his moments, and I just saw things that were kind of like,

had me trending. You know, I just keep my mouth shut because I hear a lot of people saying, well, we got people. They said it damn me pictures of him and the club or him being somewhere. That ain't got nothing to do with me. I'm going to talk about his play on the field. And that's where I'm going to leave it at.

So, but I just saw the, I just saw the way it was trending. And I was like, yeah, they're going to have, they're going to have a, they're going to have a break up here before long. And, and it happened, you know, the, as Brian Schottonheimer, shot he said, yeah, because we told him he couldn't go. And then the reports that he was at a concert, I don't know. I don't know if he was at a concert, but that's it, that's inconsequential. Because when you ask them, could you stay?

They said no. Right. Once they said no, it doesn't matter whether you're at a concert. And I guess, like you said, maybe he just wanted to leave. Maybe he wanted out. I don't know. Right. But in that situation, once, if your boss said, you ask your boss, can I get off tomorrow?

He says, no, we really need you to come in, Ocho. If you take off tomorrow, it don't matter what you took off for. Right. They did not give you the day off. So if they move in another direction, you can't be mad. Yeah, I don't think he is mad. I don't think he is mad either way. I think obviously he wanted out.

He knew it was coming. There were issues, obviously, dating back to training camp. And him choosing to do his, not training camp, but all season, him choosing to do his rehabbing elsewhere and not want to be in Dallas. Obviously, Jerry Jones and the Cowboys organization taken $500,000 from him because of his choice. and wanting to rehab away from the facility. Correct. And then obviously him saying he's healthy, him being a healthy scratch,

him talking to the media, the media saying is healthy, but Jerry saying he's not healthy. I mean, it was so much turmoil going on there. And I think he just wanted to expedite the process of him not being there. So him choosing not to come back on that flight and stay wherever he was and do what he wanted to do. And he got what he wanted. Yeah, I think the thing is also, and you heard,

Abberflus, when he was talking, he said some things, trains hard, he's like, look, when you have a guy that can get there suddenly and we trade that guy, he's talking like a guy that knows he's not coming back. So I'm going to be truthful. We traded Michael.

What the hell do you expect to happen with our secondary? You need a guy that can win right now. He's the one guy that can win right now. Yes. He's the one guy that if you don't double, he will wreck your defense. He'll wreck your offense. They don't have anybody like that.

And so with that, with Traybon not, well, maybe he was healthy, maybe he's healthy at the start of the season. I don't know. I don't know. But what I do know is that he was a guy that would take some risk. He's a feast of famine guy, Ocho.

He's going to get you, but you're going to get him. Yeah. And teams double moved him. That's how you got to get him. You know, there are guys, going to show, we're starting off. We double move with you because we got to back you up. Aggressive.

You're going to jump something. So we want you. We're going to use your aggressiveness against you. And Diggs is, he's not in Dallas anymore. And people go like, well, you know, that's what, no. No, that's not the reason why. That's not the reason why. I'm not going to let you

I'm not going to let you all this on Diggs Has Digg played his best football The last couple of years? No But there have been a lot of guys That hadn't played their best football Y'all think Daron Bland played his best football

Oh no Y'all paid him He just got that bag bag Don't think he played his best There are a lot of guys that hadn't lived up to expectations That's a part of it You got some

The Cowboys got some choices to make Y'all problem is Y'all general manager it's terrible. And don't nobody know that but him. And he doesn't, everybody knows it except him. Yeah. But keep him in place.

I like, y'all give us something to talk about it. So guess what? It's 31 years before y'all went to the NFC championship game. Joe Burr and Jamar Chase both came out and spoke today about the Bengals disappointing season and what needs to change to get this team back to the Subbo. Burrub. said, we don't want to be in the spot where we are right now. So something's got to change.

Whether it's players, we're continuing to improve and get better and play championship caliber football or bringing in guys or that will or whatever they may be. Obviously, something has to change. Chase, I think some of the things are pretty obvious, what we need to change. At the end of the day, I can't really say or put emphasis on what needs to be changed because it's not my role, but it's pretty obvious. Defense and what some of the issues need to be changed. I love Chase.

Chase said, hey, my role. They play me to catch a pass and score touchdown. That's what I'm going to do. But y'all know what it is. Yeah, hey, listen, we know what the elephant in the room is. I mean, Chase and Jamar don't, I mean, Chase and Joe, Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't need to say it. I'm not sure why the media is even asking them questions. They know what the problem is.

We know what the problem is. Those that aren't Bengal fans know what the problem is. We know what issues need to be addressed in the offseason, in the draft. And I'm hoping, I'm hoping that we continue based on some of the things that Joe Borough has said, he's put everybody on alert. He's put everybody on alert and we need to do what's necessary to continue to keep our team in an advantageous position to compete from Lombardi every single year. Continue to put pieces, not around me offensively because you've done you, you've done everything you can for us offensively. Well, you can prove offensive line. I won't be mad if you improve the offensive line.

Okay, you can do that. You could maybe add another piece somewhere in the guard area. Maybe I would like a nice centerpiece, well, at the center position, which is most of the time is the weak link on most teams. But defensively, we know we need to attack. We need to attack in the off season and in the draft defensively. I personally, chat, I want us to go get Jeffrey Simmons. I'm going to Jeffrey Simmons at the Pro Bowl

I bet you do with a lot of other people Yeah I want to go get Jeffrey Simmons Huh Let's solidify somebody up there On that front end On that front end You know And I'm not sure what's going to happen

I'm sure Trey Henderson is gone Uh huh Yeah oh yeah he's gone Okay Tray Henderson is gone I'm not sure we can If we can get another premiere Deep as the end you know But I know we're going to get Jeffrey Simmons

I told Jeffrey We've had multiple conversations, and I don't, I don't want it to come to a rift. So I need to make sure that happens. You know, I'm doing my due diligence for the organization as well on the outside. Oh, Joe? Yeah. I'm going to give you some key figures from 1933. The average home price cost between $3,900 and $5,700. The average income was around $1,300 to $1,700. A new car costs roughly $600 to $800 and gasoline was 10 to $0.18 a gallon.

Hey, what would you do for us to be back in old time for them kind of price? But I don't want to be back to my brother. That was a great depression. People were jumping out of the way to kill this. Hold on. No, I don't want to be back there. I'm going to right here right now.

Okay, I'm understanding. I'm just saying with the price point, with the price point with the price point. Oh, Joe, Blacks weren't making money like that. Do you understand if the average blacks weren't, They didn't include us in the average. I understand what you're saying, but, hey, you know, everybody complained about the goddamn prices today. You know, you were a sharecropper.

Do you understand what you was doing? You was making pennies. If the average income was 12 to 1,700, they're probably weren't a thousand black people in the country making that kind of money. Yeah. I don't know how to go back there. Well, you know what I, you know what I'd have been doing back then? You know what I'd have been doing back then? Hustling like a lot of other black people would do it.

Yeah, exactly. Boy, I would have been the best bootlegger there is. You hit me? Yeah. I would have had the best rum. Like, hey, what's the two brothers from, um, from sinners? Oh, uh, I know you're talking about, yeah. I forgot the twin's name and sinners, boy.

Hey, I'd have been, I was, what? Look, I grew up in, I grew up in late 60s, early, 70s, and I know how hard we had it. I know what my grandmother, how my grandmother said, they're doing, you know, 5, 10 loads of laundry for a quarter a day. Man, please. A quarter?

Yes. What do you think black people ate all those scraps? You wasn't getting steak. You weren't in hamburger. You had to eat ox tail. You had to eat neck bone. That's where pig feet, chitling's pig tails. That's where that came from.

Yeah. I don't know what people thought they were you getting ribs, beef ribs. No. Hell, no. Hell, no. Now, I'm going to let you have that with Ocho. You go back there and let me know what it's like. No, I don't, listen, I'm there.

I'm talking about the price. I ain't talking about what you had to deal with. I'm just talking about the numbers. That's it. What, damn. How you will get? So you think you're going to be able to go back there with the money you got now and just you can transport yourself like that?

I ain't say I wanted to go back there. I said, living today. Could you imagine if the price is. were as low and affordable as they were back then. That's all. Hell no, that's impossible. Yeah, I know that. I know that.

I'm just saying. Everybody complained about everything today. Oh, the price of eggs. Oh, milk's so goddamn high. Eggs, see how much eggs are? I mean, yeah, of course. That's why I'm just saying in general, what if it was a little bit more affordable

where people weren't living goddamn paycheck to paycheck? People have been living paycheck to paycheck. What you mean? They ain't just started, don't you? Yeah, I know. I don't know what I'm just saying, huh? It'd be a little easier. That's why you need the right people in position of the power that make the cause.

But every time you think if you get the right people, they get corrupted too. Because how you think they got the power? Hey, I'm glad. I'm glad you know. See, that's why I stay out of politics. Because you got to be crooked. You can't never be straight to be in the politics. Like I said, look, I remember when I was, when I was,

was a kid, minimum wage was 337 an hour. I was a kid, I was a kid 40 years ago, 50 years ago. God damn. So now, yeah. But now, Ocho, guess what? It's 725. That's it. So you're talking about 50 years ago, it's only game, it's only gone up, you know,

it's doubled. What the hell is, what kind of boy job is that? Now, you look at CEOs, COOs, and you look at everybody else. income, it's gone up exponentially. So, and that's why people say they live in paycheck to paycheck, because a lot, the people that was here, money has gone here. People that was here, money hadn't gone nowhere. Hey, it's a dirty game.

As prices, home, you ain't buying no home now for no $5,900. No. I mean, pretty soon, the average house of a home goes down to cost you a million dollars. Who are they going to be able to afford an American dream? dream. Soon, they're going to tell you to stop dreaming. Don't dream no more because that issue ain't coming true. You know, you know.

Yes. You know what? I'm going to have my sister to send my thing because I remember I got a, when I was working, I got a W-2 form from 1977. Damn, you still got it? Yeah. But you keep every goddamn thing, man.

How many, how many, nine-year-olds you know got a W-2 for them. I was working. I've been working all my life. That's all I done. That's been people like... Well, I got a better one for you. How many two-year-olds, you know, had cable

and a washing machine and dry in their name? We didn't even have cable. You couldn't get cable in the country back then. Well, matter of fact, I had bad credit before I could walk. How about that? Shit. Hey, they got you. They got you.

Yeah. I mean, all the old American dream. Huh? The question is, who's dreaming it and which America is it? That's a good one. Hey, come on now. It ain't got to be Sunday for you to preach. Man, please.

Man, please. But I remember my grandmother, my grandfather left my grandma in debt like $2,500. Well, you know, but I remember last, my grandma told my sister, this is the last payment ain't a living. She's like, yes, ma'am. Man, it took us like, where it took my grandma. Like 10 years, 15 years to pay off $2,500. Ooh.

You got to realize my grandma wasn't making about $197 every two weeks. Yeah. How'd head you're going to feed me, spanky, liby? At the time, Maranelle, Gladys lived at the house for probably about a year that she left with Chicago with my mom. Sherman or Jane. How'd the hell you're going to feed that?

$5 here, $10 there. That's why we worked in the summer or we got little side jobs picking up pecans, clipping onions. That's why we chipped in because we saw how hard it was for granted to try to run out of gas. We used to have a big propane thing.

They don't have many more, but they used to have a big 200-gallon propane tank. Yes, sir. You run out of gas, Ocho. Well, granted, got no money. You got no money. my brother have to go down there, chop down the tree.

Cut it up. Put it up, put the heater from the fireplace. Put it down, boom. You don't know how many times me and my brother them put sweet potatoes in the hot ashes. Let them cook. Because we ain't got no gas stole. Don't work, Ocho.

Damn. Man, please. People can't tell me nothing about no hard time. I ain't tell you what somebody told me. When somebody was talking about, I'm talking about the 70s and the 80s. I lived it. Yeah.

People talk about, oh, I lived it So when people talk about hard times Man please We got here In Rappaport reports that the Giants are expected To look at all options

If they get their hands on the top pick in April Rappaport expect them to evaluate all options Including looking at Fernando Mendoza Before they make the decision on how they're going to proceed If they have this pick Dart said this week he hadn't heard much from the report but made it clear he sees he's the future in New York I'm going to continue to play ball play my ball

I know I'm going to be here for a very long time I'm excited to start winning more games and turn this place around do my job we have a bright future and I'm standing on the sideline watching Abdul ball watching DA ball scat was here today when you think about this rookie class we have a really bright future

and we're going to do a really big pivot and turn this thing around. Ocho? Yes, sir. For me, it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense. It wouldn't make any sense. It wouldn't make any sense. Go ahead, Ocho, what you thinking?

It wouldn't make any sense at all. You've got some special in Jackson Dart. Now, we could pull the reins back on him a little bit and get him to be a little bit more cautious and the way he plays the quarterback position. You know, he's going to be all right. But he brings something that, listen, I like McDonough. I like McDoza.

I like him. but he's not Jackson Dart. He's not going to breathe that kind of excitement and put butts in his seat like Jackson Dart and goddamn Scatterbo can do. Nope. He's not. He definitely not.

Completely different individual. If you listen to his interviews on, he's not ready for that New York media. That ain't for him. That ain't for him. Jackson Dart is perfect for that situation. He's perfect for the atmosphere, that environment, being in New York.

that is the perfect place for him. He's going to be all right. We just got a tone some things down in the game, and he's going to be our right. Other than that, that's all. But all that, looking at all, they can check all the options and every other area except quarterback.

Ocho, the Buffalo Bills are asking fans to help shovel snow at Highmark Stadium before this weekend's game. anyone 18 years of older get $20 per hour with food and hot beverage provided Ocho

I'd have been there Wait how much $20 an hour Ooh Hey what time the stadium open I'm gonna get that Oh And food

Listen I don't need no food Give me a hot dog Give me a hot dog And some hot cocoa I got you 20 hours I'd be there all day Oh, Cho, you do realize glizzies are food, right? My bad, that's a snack. They probably play, they say they play you in glizzies.

That's fine. Oh, no, they, oh, no, I'm going to get my $20 an hour. Don't do that. I'm going to get my $20 an hour. And I want to make sure I spend that. I want to spend it. I want to be there all day, too. Oh, you want to go to the game?

No. Hey, young, you want to go out there? Who? Go where? And go shovel. No. Mm-mm. Okay.

that have been some great content now no it ain't only you had that shoveled snow $20 an hour Oh sure I don't do See I don't know if you really done manual labor But when you're done manual labor for over A decade you're good on it you cool on it I did I did construction work unc

In the office in college I did landscaping did all that Yeah Poor concrete concrete late asphalt yep Did root yeah You're like landscaping unc I was cutting grass 8 years old that was part of my chores on Saturday.

Yes. I had the lawnmower. Well, I'm glad that, I'm glad to let you get to be eight before you started doing it. Damn. What we talk about? My grandma had me out there in her rose bed.

I'm the one that had to dig, I'm the one that had to dig them holes in the garden. Yes. I know by, man, your labor, that are there with the guard gloves on that don't fit. Three, three sides is too big. Damn, you had gloves and everything. Damn, you what?

You're a real worker. Yeah. Man. Hey, I still got calluses on my hand from laying bricks. What are we talking about? Look at this. Boy, when you're using that hammer or that shovel and you ain't got no gloves that first day, them hand, bad, your hands hurt so bad.

Like, Lord, I sure hope I ain't got to go in the morning. All right, I'll see you boys tomorrow. Damn. Yeah. I show you want to tell Grant, I don't want to go back. Son gone. Hey, son gone out there. That's a good piece of job.

What you mean it's a good piece of job? Working 12 hours a day for $10, $15? You think that's good? Hey. Well, you're going to make that kind of money. Boy, my grandma, hey, look here, man. You could have worked $15. Man, K, you're $5.

Well, that's good money. What? I mean, but you do. I understand, Grady. You work. and it was a quarter for all they load that loads of laundry to you and Grandma Lou and Annie May had to do.

Grannie, that was 50 years or 40 years ago. That's 50 years ago. Right. $2 ain't a lot of money, granny. Damn. You could tell you could do it.

My grandma thought any, any denomination of money. Right. It was good money. It was good money. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. but that's where you know it comes from that's where how I'm wired I'm a provider there wasn't a whole lot but you know working in the summer we worked in the summer we caught chickens once to the tobacco was over we still caught chickens during the season come peacock come pecans well pickams was like in the winter picking of pecans we did that then with spring coming around it was time to clip onions, those by there your onions that y'all be eating or that, yeah, yeah, that's what uncle was in the field.

You got 50 cents, you got 50 cents a hamper. I give, I made me a quick, you know, I make me a quick, yeah, $10, $15. And you know what you could do with $15 back then? I know what I could do. But hold on. When I was a kid, you know what you did with $15 back when I was a kid, go to the candy lady house? You know how much $15 can carry you at the candy,

the house back in the 80s? No, $10. No, $5 because $10 got to go to granny. You got to help pay some bills. You didn't have to just get all that money and just keep it for yourself. Huh? Oh, that's what you thought? No, no.

Okay. For me, for me, it was your money. You know, it was chore money. I understand once I wash my clothes, once I cut that grass, once I get out there in that rosebed, once I pick the mangoes that are ripe off the tree, Yeah. Once I threw up

some goddamn leaves Any leaves that was in the yard Once I watched some cars Come on now I know I got I got me a good 10, 10, 15 dollars coming Nope

Now can't tell me nothing I hear that ice cream truck coming Hey Hey, I'm ready Bad please That was Being my brother was talking When he was out here

He said man He was looking at He was walking around the house He was in the backyard He had sent my sister-in-law Picture my niece He's like, boy We're sitting on the back

Just talking Yeah I said man He said when you sit back here What you think I say Thank of how fortunate And how blessed we are

I remember used to rain You have to go to the bathroom Be soaking wet, Ocho Soaking wet Mosquitoes You in the South Mosquitoes are bad

I remember all that And I'm just sitting I'm just sitting there just thinking God, you've been better to me and I even deserve. Yes, sir. I don't even know what I did to deserve this favor, but I thank you.

So, man, I just wish my girl, because she was, man, I remember the first time I took my grandma to my house in Atlanta, Ocho. Uh-huh. She was pulling up because she rolled with me.

Turned down street, like, ooh, woo. He's like, boy, you live in here? I said, yes, ma'am. So I turned in there and pull up the driveway, hit the button the garage go up. Yeah. She walked in there.

My sister come up. She's like, live in this too much house. I never thought I believe it. I never thought I see this day. She bragged about that everybody, all my uncles, all my aunts, people that she went to church with. You want to see that boy at house. If she saw this one, Lord, have mercy. You know what that reminds me of to uncle while you're sitting there explaining?

Remember the American gangster? Yeah. When Denzel called. You're with mom. And mom and saw the house? Yes, yes. Remind me of that. Yes.

That's exactly how my grandma was. Yeah. She's like, oh, she's like, man, she brags so much. Ooh. Leave me that boy, guy, I show hate to have to clean this. I said, granted, I don't clean it. That's why I pay somebody to do. Hell to the dog.

I don't do nothing. But it was, I mean, she was just so proud. And, man, that's why I'm so appreciative of everything, Ocho. I know how hard I work to get in the position that I'm in. I don't take any fact. I've never shied away from hard work. That's what I know Yeah

It's like what you're gonna do I don't know what I would do I don't know if I could just sit still and not do nothing Oh wait You like me You know I got 274 jobs on

I can't sit still I can't I got to be doing something I got to be doing something I got to be doing something Yeah I don't know if I could just I don't know if I could just sit still I got to do something

Even if I don't do number one day a week I got to do something. I got to feel like I got to get up to do something. Because if I don't feel like I got to get them doing it, I'm like, what's my purpose? Right. I mean, you got to have a purpose. I want you to make sure you keep the same energy, too. When we win a lotto, when we win a lotto, I don't want to hear nothing about no.

You're taking a vacation and you ain't showing up because you just said you got to be doing something. So I want, when we hit for about maybe six, seven, 800 million, make sure you show up on this show every Monday, every Wednesday. every Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. Hey, I'm going to take some CTO. What's that? Choice time off. PTO is paid time off. I'm taking CTO, choice time off.

I'm headed, hey, I'm leaving on the next plane. I don't know when I'll be back again. Right. That's all right, long as they got Wi-Fi. You good. Where are you going? I'm going to be connected to something, okay? I'm

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