Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 2: Shannon Sharpe YAWNS at Aaron Rodgers likely BACK, HEARTBROKEN Over Tragic Passing of Rondale Moore at 25

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down this week’s biggest NFL headlines in a must-watch Best of NFL episode. The guys react to Aaron Rodgers’ potential return ...to Pittsburgh and the guys react to the unfortunate passing of Vikings Wide Receiver Rondale Moore. Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Aaron Rodgers likely to return12:46 - Lamar Jackson called out40:59 - Vikings WR  Rondale Moore dies at age 25 (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:51 Ocho, it seems about Aaron Rogers is returning for one more season and it appears increasingly likely per Tom Pelliserro. The odds arising that he comes back. I don't see it being any other play. If he's going to play, I believe it's going to be for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Coacho? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:12 New head coach, familiarity. Mike McCarthy. Even if he comes back are the Steelers, legitimate contenders for the Super Bowl next season? I mean, I wouldn't say legitimate contenders. I mean, they're legitimate contenders to, I mean, in the ASC, you know, depending on AFC North. AFC North, but they still got a long way to go.
Starting point is 00:02:39 They got to work on that defense too, as great as the players, as great as the names are, you know, that they had on that defense left. They didn't play like it, huh? No. They didn't play like it.
Starting point is 00:02:47 They need another weapon to go alongside D.K. Metcalf. They do. They need another, I'm talking about a reliable option to go along with DK Metcalf. He can't do it by him. He can't do it by himself.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Obviously, as great as Aaron Rogers was, he is not the Aaron Rodgers of old, but he needs players around him to elevate his level of play. So he doesn't have to wait, wait. He doesn't have to take the burden of the shoulders and having to elevate the players around him because he's not the same. He's not the young Aaron Roosevelt,
Starting point is 00:03:16 and it would be great if they get a better supporting cast around him. I mean, running game is decent. Get you one solid receiver, just one more receiver that you can count on, that you can be blindfolded, you can hike the ball, and you know exactly where it's going to be and you know he's going to be open for you every single time. You mean shoulder the bird
Starting point is 00:03:33 They need a bad boy Huh? You mean shoulder to bird? Yeah, shoulder to bird Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I ain't had to use that in so long You got it I was like, hold on
Starting point is 00:03:43 What I said? What I said? You said bird in the shoulder I said it backwards, my bad Yeah No, but you know what, Ocho This is you, Ocho, we already know what you meant Yeah, yeah, yeah, I appreciate that
Starting point is 00:03:55 I appreciate that, I appreciate that Yeah, I agree Ocho, I mean, because you know, look, I don't think, I don't, look, it's going to be very interesting to see the Patriots, can they replicate? Because they won the division, you'll have a more difficult schedule. You'll play division winners and you play a different conference this year. Buffalo, what do they do? The Broncos, what do they do?
Starting point is 00:04:22 The Texans, what do they do? All those teams, you know, the Texans, that defense, I don't see that defense dropping off. Now, at hell, no. Maybe, maybe, Ocho, they go get. a protector. Okay. Because I don't, I don't really see, I don't think they need a whole lot. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I don't think they need a whole lot because they got, they got guys that can go get after the quarterback. Mm-hmm. The secondary. That secondary is top tier. Phenomenal. Phnomous. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh, yes. Yeah. Tank Dale coming back? Yes. You know, they got a couple of receivers that played really well in the absence of Tankdale. Mm-hmm. I wouldn't be opposed if they wouldn't
Starting point is 00:05:08 got a tight end. I like Dalton Shultz, but if I can find somebody that, look, we saw the tight end, the benefit that it brought Chicago. We saw what it did for Warren and Indy. We saw Kyle Pitts, Jr., when they gave him opportunities,
Starting point is 00:05:30 how the offense flows when they get the tight end involved. Right. And so, I agree with you. I'm not like, oh, yeah, Aaron Rogers come back and now they got McCarthy and they're going to be favorites, no. No.
Starting point is 00:05:48 No. But what it does do, it gives you a chance. It gives you a chance to compete. Because if Aaron Rogers doesn't come back, oh, my goodness, it's going to get ugly. It's going to be nasty. John Mannion replaced Kevin Petula as the Eagles OC, and Seekwon said he loved the challenge
Starting point is 00:06:08 of putting yourself in a new society. system. And that's what he knows. This is one sets us apart from everyone else that he's played for so far. Sequin said, I'm super excited about it. I'm going on year nine, which is crazy to say. I've had a lot of different coaches and head coaches and been a part of a lot of systems. I don't think I really came across a system like this.
Starting point is 00:06:27 For me, it's refreshing. You get something new. You get to learn something new. I ain't like, I ain't going to lie to you, Cho. I ain't like learning a new system. No, I mean, I wouldn't either. Because you got to think, because why you learned it, Ocho, you are like, damn am I supposed
Starting point is 00:06:42 I'm like take it off yeah I mean go ahead what you thinking listen the best part of being in the system and having continuity of knowing exactly what to do and being able to play the game really fast and not having to think you know it is a great thing
Starting point is 00:06:58 obviously you have the all season you know off-season program you get to get in your playbook and by the time you get to the season you'll be familiar with the new system but just having the old one and knowing everything from front to back, it pays dividends.
Starting point is 00:07:14 It pays dividends where you can just go play on. All you have to do is just read and react, read and react. It's a great thing. Doesn't it feel good? It don't have to take your playbook home? Listen. Man, I have some sick and taking that playbook home
Starting point is 00:07:29 by first two years, Ocho. Damn. I'm like, man, all the best part of it, I'm home by myself. It's kind of like when I went back to school to finish up my degree, Ocho, and I'm sitting in class, and I ain't much old.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I'm 20, I'm 22. Right. I just turned 22, so I graduated before my 23rd birthday. And I'm sitting up in class. I'm like, damn, I feel old. Even though I'm only 23, Ocho, but I think my mindset. I'm like, man, I'm in the NFL. I should be in here.
Starting point is 00:08:01 But I was like, man, I am not, hey, I'm 20 hours short of a degree. Right. Man, I'm going to get this. I'm going to get this Hey Ocho, I'm going to get this degree. Right. Oh, hell yeah. But, and it's like just to study, man.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I just, and once I get it, I'm good. Clockwork, huh? I'm good. Yeah. But, you know, some people say it's like that. So, you know, some people, you know, it's refreshing to them.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And you hear of St. Guadu, it's refreshing to learn a new system and to be, you know, all of a sudden, you know, it's just not second nature to you. Right. You think you have a bounce back season? It depends that offensive line stays healthy. It's all to see.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Elaine Johnson and Dickerson. Yeah, if everybody comes back healthy and they're fine and I think he can have a bounce back season. In year night, I don't see Sey Korn slowing down at all. Any time soon, barring injury. If he can stay healthy
Starting point is 00:09:04 and that offensive line stay healthy, hell, I can see them back exactly what they need to be and that's competing for a championship. I think the thing is that everything is really contingent because, but this offense they made a concerted effort.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Sequan Barkley is, y'all are not going to beat us running this damn football. That's not going to happen. Right. So if you're going to beat us, your quarterback, he's going to have beat us throwing the football. Sequin is not going to do what he did last
Starting point is 00:09:37 year. It's not going to happen. I'm sorry, Eagles. Right. And it definitely hurt that Lane got hurt. Dickinson was dealing with what he was dealing with all year long. I think he had surgery right before the season. The center had surgery, if I'm not mistaken, in the offseason. So now, instead of rehab and he'll get the train. Hopefully Dickinson will be a fully healthy. He'll get the train. Lane is coming off of Andrew. So he had that,
Starting point is 00:10:02 I don't know if he had, did he have surgery for his lead spank? because I know he had a lead to prank. I don't know if he had surgery or he let it heal on its own. So hopefully, and when, look, he's just one of the best, he's one of the best offensive linemen in all of football, regardless of a position. Right. And with that being said, if they go back to being dominant,
Starting point is 00:10:22 it makes everybody jobs on the office side of football easier. Easy. But we still, we got to see how this thing plays out in free agency. Because we're going to see, is AJ still there? Or are they moving on? That's what we're going to know, Ocho, in the first week of free agency. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 When is free agency? April. Like, oh, it's cut, no, hell now. What? March. Ooh, it's early. The draft is in, no, you got about, it's about two weeks. Oh, hey, it's going to get interesting.
Starting point is 00:10:52 The draft is it, is it April? Hey, it's going to get interesting. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so we'll find, you know, we'll find out if, uh, uh, uh, Max probably, is he going or is he staying? Huh? He didn't have search?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Okay. And so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. Dickson is also. I saw both of them, you know, saw that posted, both of them. Also,
Starting point is 00:11:20 when is the, uh, free agency start? Oh, yeah. Yeah. March 11th. Okay. See?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Oh, Joe, we, hey, yeah, yeah, let's the 22nd. Why, you two? Why, you two? You basically,
Starting point is 00:11:44 you basically, Wait, it's the 22nd, it's the 22nd already? Twenty-second of them. You know, it's the Jordan's month. Hey, hey, boy, 2026 going by fast. Can we ask some more days to February? Oh, no, no, no. We got to...
Starting point is 00:12:00 Why not? They do with everything else. I mean, they don't move a spring forward and fall back. They don't let that thing come so quick. Yeah. I mean, it used to be you fall, you fall back and not... I mean, they springing forward. Damn, them, February.
Starting point is 00:12:13 That's a... It used to... to be it, I think it used to be in April, down around Easter time. Uh-huh. Damn, man. Hey, buddy, you're going by Fad. We're already going into March.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I just told my sister and I just had this conversation. I said, we're about to be three months into 26. Already. I feel like the ball dropped two weeks ago. Damn. And your boy about to be 40, about to be 48 again? Okay, okay. Wait, when are your birthday?
Starting point is 00:12:48 June 26th. Well, what will we do? doing? You know, we can have a nice little, huh? Huh? Well, there ain't no tell it. You want to have a look, we can have a little party or something. Hey, I'll tell you, like, like, my, like, like, my, like, like, I like that. I like that. Whatever, whatever, whatever the Lord C fit. Yes, sir. I'm not a big, I'm not a big, I'm not a big, I'm not a big, I'm not a big, I'm not a big, I'm not a big party at all, Joe. Oh, shit, me neither. I haven't, I haven't said, I haven't said a party for my birthday yet. I love, I say a prayer at 1159. Hold on. Somebody say, hold on. They say we spring. We're saying, hold on. They say,
Starting point is 00:13:29 in March, I know damn well we're about to spring forward already. We just fell back two months ago. Hold on what you mean? I'm confused. What that means? You set the clocks up. Okay. So that means we lose an hour of sleep?
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yes. Okay. We just fell back two months ago. What the hell? It's crazy how that worked there, huh? Man, spring forward used to be out for Easter. Mm-hmm. Pretty soon they're going to have Easter.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I mean, East East East, you'd be like the third weekend in April. They got Easter on the first weekend, the second weekend pretty soon. They're going to have Easter. They're going to have St. Patty's Day and then a week later have Easter. Yeah. Damn. But the eagle, look, the one thing you can't count the Eagles out. Because the one thing that we know about Jeffrey Lurr that he gives Howard Roseman a lot of control.
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Starting point is 00:16:56 the clan Doyle emphasized the importance of offseason workout. He didn't single out any player, but probably didn't need to. We would expect players to be here, and certainly it is voluntary, but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship, you want to say that you have championship standards, those are the goals,
Starting point is 00:17:15 those are the expectations, certainly that's going to take work. That's going to take collaboration. And that's going to take the beginning of building of a relationship with their coaches and other players starting the next regime on the right foot. Ocho? Yes, sir. You know what are you talking to? I think he's talking to everybody.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Because I think the conversation with, what was the name that looked like he part of the mall? Steve, Bashati. Yeah, Bashati and Lamar had already had that conversation. conversation about him being there in the offseason, and taking part of the offseason program. So we already know he's going to show up. Now, I think he wants to make sure everyone else is on board. Oh, Joe, stop that.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You know he's not talking to but one person. Everybody else goes, which guy hasn't been there seven of the last offseason? Last seven of the late off seasons, which guy hadn't shown up? Timeout. Time out. We talk about the decoordinate, right? No, we're talking about the offensive coordinator. The officer coordinator ain't calling out motherfucking Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I can tell you that. Okay. I guarantee you that. No, he didn't call a new officer coordinator and not calling out the team franchise leader. Oh, Joe. After you already had a conversation with the owner. The same one who is up for contract extension.
Starting point is 00:18:32 He's not calling him out. Which guy? You don't want to start. Let me finish. Answer me finish. Let me finish. You are not going to be the new officer coordinator and come in talking shit already and pissed the man off.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Now you're starting a relationship off on the wrong goddamn foot. He's not talking to Lamar. He's talking to everybody. We're not going to do that. Okay, he's talking to everybody. Which guy has not been participating in the voluntary OTAs the last seven of the eight years? I mean, Lamar has it,
Starting point is 00:19:03 and I'm sure other people haven't as well. Okay. Joe, what do you think about that, Joe? So because now you're saying everybody is just as important. important as Lamar, but go ahead. Oh, Joe, go ahead, finish y'all. Listen, I'm catching, I'm catching up. I'm picking up what y'all putting down.
Starting point is 00:19:23 You hear me? Man. I mean, I mean, I understand what you mean. You're saying, you're saying this to, you're saying this the officer coordinator of office. Because what happened, you know they're talking about Lamar. What you do is that you talk, you know who he's talking to. There's a lot of times that they would talk, they would talk, they're talking to the best player, but they're not at, there you go.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Indirectly, yeah. No. I guarantee you. Okay. I guarantee you. I guarantee you, because all it's going to do is piss him off, Joe. What you mean? Why it's going to piss him off of all?
Starting point is 00:20:02 He hasn't been there in the office season. You're not for, you're not going to get no new job and they get out here talking trash like like that. Hit my line if you need me there. I don't need you. Why, I got to say I need you there. I got to tell you I need you there. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:20:14 No, if he ain't been in the past seven, eight years. So who's he talking to? Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. That's what I needed you to say right there. He ain't talking to him. I guarantee you that joke.
Starting point is 00:20:24 You see I did that joke? Hey, and you know what? I guarantee he not talking to him. You see I did that joke? Put a name on it. Y'all see how I did that right there? Hold on. Put a name on it.
Starting point is 00:20:36 No, we got to put a name on it. Put a name on it. Because what's going to happen is, what's going to happen is you're going to piss him off and this, all this new. coordinator that's coming in trying to what, what precedent is he trying to say, hold on. Calling out, what precedent let me finish, what precedent
Starting point is 00:20:53 are you setting calling out the starting fucking quarterback publicly? What are we doing? That's stupid. We would expect players to be here and certainly it is voluntary but if you want to say that you're going to win a championship you say you want to have
Starting point is 00:21:10 championship standards and those are your goals, your expectation. certainly that's going to take some work and it's going to take collaboration. So is the offensive coordinator collaborating with the defensive? Is he coordinating with the, if he coordinating with the wide receivers, the offensive line? Who is he in calibration with, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:21:36 You know, I'm supposed to be a lawyer, right? I could have been one too. And I guarantee he ain't talking to him. Guarantee that. And I guarantee he don't show up. I bet that. You want to, hold on, you want to get a new job.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You want to be goddamn spoody trying to show off because you got a new job as the coordinator. And you call not your starting court, your starting franchise quarterback. I guarantee he won't show up just to show you. I mean, you don't do nothing like that coming in as a new coach. You don't do that. Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 00:22:08 You don't call, you don't call. It's dumb. It's stupid. It's dumb and it stupid. Why would you piss off your quarterback with a message like that? What sense does that make? What you're missing the point. Let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:22:26 There is no point. If you want Lamar to show up, you text Lamar. I want you if this is what you're trying to do. What's what you're trying to do? Let me finish. Everything he just said publicly, he could have said that to Lamar if you want Lamar to show up. What are you proving saying it publicly? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Who is it going to piss off? I remember. Tell me. Who's it going to? gonna piss off. All I remember was a guy saying he wanted to win a championship more than anything. But I need to call you and
Starting point is 00:22:57 ask you to show up. Interesting. So you go out publicly and you get a new job and you call out the franchise quarterback. That's going to work out real fucking well. Come on. I'm trying to figure out. Hold on. I'm trying to figure out. Let's go back. Let's go
Starting point is 00:23:18 back and see what quarterback has won a championship that didn't participate in OTAs. All those years except the last three years of Tom. So you think, so you think, let me finish my point. Let me finish my point. So you think Colin out your franchise quarterback is going to get you to the championship. Yeah, that's real, that's real smart.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Good job. Good job, officer coordinator. Let's call out the franchise quarterback. Let me ask you question. Do you think Sam Darner participated in the OTA last year? Yeah. Do you think Drake May participated in OTA? last year.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Tell me the quarterback that you don't think participated in OTAs, OCHO. What does that have to do what we'll be talking about? So in other words, you just, hold on. Again, I'm going to say it one whole time because somebody, it seemed to be going in one ear and out the other.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So calling out your franchise quarterback is the way to go about doing things when you wanted to show up the OTAs. Is that what you're saying? All the man said is, he didn't single out nobody. And you said he's talking to Lamarck. Jackson, the person that hasn't showed up. So is that the way to go about doing it?
Starting point is 00:24:34 Calling out your franchise quarterback publicly. How is that supposed to help anything? Outside of just pissing him all. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I tell you what, he's going to be more pissed if he go another year and don't get to the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:24:52 The criticism's going to grow louder and louder and louder and louder. And louder. Okay, I got a question. He shows up the OTAs and they'll go to the Super Bowl. Then what?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Ocho, we had this conversation. Then what? Working hard. And then what? This is a new system. This is a new system. He's been in that system before. Ocho?
Starting point is 00:25:21 Come on, what is it that you don't understand, Ocho? You don't call out your fucking franchise quarterback. What do you don't understand? to him. You said you weren't talking to him. No matter what. You don't do it. You don't do it. You're going to piss him. Hold on. Hold on. You know that. Did Belichick call out Brady? You're going to piss your brother. Did Belichick call out Brady? You talk about, they won six Super Bowls in there, five Super Bowls. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:53 And he called out Tom Brady, who he won six Super Bowls win, but you mean to tell me Lamar Jackson can't get called out? So you really compare to Lamar Jackson? That's what I'm asking you. Are we doing that? That's what I'm asking you. That's the point. No, listen, let me finish. The new officer coordinator who I don't even,
Starting point is 00:26:14 F and no, calls out the franchise quarterback, and you're comparing that to what the, what Tom Brady and Bill Belichick did. Are you serious? Are you serious? I got it once six Super Bowls got called out, but a guy that hadn't been to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:26:28 he's above reproach. You know what? I'm worried about it. Okay. I say we're not going to do is we're not going to have common sense here. Because call the rule number one. Listen, listen to me. Call the rule number one.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You never chastised your quarterback. That is the only coach, the only coach that has ever called out. But you said you don't chastise your quarterback. He can do that. Why? They had that relationship. What relationship they have? Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:26:59 They had the relationship to set the tone for everybody else to let everybody else know. It's an even playing feel here. Thank you. That's how you see the tone. That's how you see. Thank you, Ocho. You see Joe what I do? Wait.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You see how much you walk you to the gym? You set the tone. What trap? They've run four, five Super Bowls. They haven't. What are we talking about? Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It's not the same. So do you think Coach Belichick called Tom Brady out before or after he won a Super Bowl? They had already one to one. No, they did not. Stop it, Ocho. They had one for him. Twenty left and what are you talking about? I was told.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I was told that he called him out from the beginning. So Tarra Brady has never been above reproach. Go ask the other guys that played on the team. Why are we talking about the Patriots? We're talking about the Baltimore Ravens. And a new officer coordinator called out his franchise quarterback publicly. You said is that that's how you set the tone. Coach Belichick was sitting a.
Starting point is 00:28:04 tone. But now you don't want this coach just sit a tone. What tone are you saying piss off your car? Why are you pissing him off? He just asked if you want to win. You got standards. You got to do things a certain way. You can text me that. If you're talking to him, what sense are you making?
Starting point is 00:28:21 What are you trying to prove saying it publicly? If you want Lamar there, you text Lamar and tell him, I would like you here for the all season because we have a new game plan. Joe, Joe, your coach has ever called you and say they wanted you to be somewhere, Joe? Or you just did the right thing because you knew what was important.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Hold on. Now you're saying, you had not let Joe tone. Now you're saying. Let Joe to. You didn't go let Joe to? No.
Starting point is 00:28:43 It's voluntary. So now it's the right thing. Now it's the right thing. So it's being, guess what else? Hey, guess what else is voluntary? Being great.
Starting point is 00:28:51 What? That's voluntary in the Joe. He is great. Hello. He is great. Go ahead, Joe. What are you saying? So now he's not great?
Starting point is 00:28:58 Hold on. So Lamar's not great? Is that what you're saying Lamar's not great? You're not going to let Joe talk. You're not going to let Joe talk? You're not going to let Joe talk. So Lamar's not great. The two-time MVP's not great?
Starting point is 00:29:08 Joe, you're not going to let the man talk, Ojo. Go ahead. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, yeah. Hey, look, anytime you have something voluntary and you show up, obviously, you know, coaches appreciate that. But not only that, like, if he been doing the same thing over the past seven, eight years, Ojo,
Starting point is 00:29:31 I think coach is trying to send a message, bro. Like, in order for us to reach something that we've never had before, obviously we've got to do something we've never done or hadn't been doing. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, and you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:51 I hope for the coaches' sake, since he's setting the goddamn tone in Goddamn in February, I hope they end up in, with a goddamn Super Bowl next year. I hope the Ravens and goddamn LA next year. Since he want to come out and be big bad ass instead of just texting him,
Starting point is 00:30:11 I would like you to be here for the all-season program. I would have thought that, you know, because it's reported, now I don't know if it's true that Lamar was a part of the hiring process. Now, I don't know, with the head coach. Now, I don't know if he's a part of the hiring process
Starting point is 00:30:26 with the offensive coordinator. But normally, normally, normally, When you have a new staff, even though it's voluntary, you show up because of the importance of it. It's a new system, both offensively and defensively, and your best player, he sets the tone for everyone else. If your best player is there, everybody else will feel obligated and come and you get a head start on things. Hmm. Hey, hey, trying to develop their chemistry and continuity early. Because it's a new system.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I've been through this with Wade Phillips, I've been through it with a, Mike came there. And then when I went to Baltimore, it was a new system. So I went for the OTAs, even though I didn't do a whole lot. But I thought it was important
Starting point is 00:31:21 for my presence to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Ocho, you never had to switch systems like that? I'll see. Yeah. But I mean, I was always the all-season program. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Oh my ohcho man you got all the sandwich man god dang man you got these coaches coming here talking all that shit man green-ass-n-n-n-n-n-n-n-n- who you're supposed to be you're trying to try to prove something trying to show off like you're coming in like you running some man just text me green-air peanut-haired head coach man trying to show all he's trying to show up man that man trying to show off that man trying to show off ochoo stall in my man Man, all that's unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Man, text me, you want me. You want to see me. Hey, O'J, you're about to lose your voice for what? Hey, come on. Hold on. Hold on. No, no, no. I like when we get into it like this.
Starting point is 00:32:27 I know you do. If the chat, the chat be getting upset when they don't know, man, be calling me to talk about, I want to argue tonight. For what? He got to argue. This man, James beat up I want to argue
Starting point is 00:32:42 tonight. I'm like, we ain't got no problem to argue about. I'm just saying I'm just as a player, as a player. Like, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:51 to be just unnecessary. You know, your new coach, you're coming in. I understand you want to set the tone. You want to, you want to establish yourself as an officer coordinator,
Starting point is 00:33:00 but there's no need to say what you said publicly. You know, that conversation is something that's to be had with Lamar Jackson. When you say something like that to the player that hasn't been there, you know, seven to the last eight years.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I mean, why are you even calling me out? You know, you already know how players are. I don't. And it's any player, you know, and you hear your coach say that, well, God damn, you could have just, you could have hit my line, you know? And so, like, I mean, I just think it's green. No disrespect to coach, man. Like, you don't call the man peanut.
Starting point is 00:33:33 You're going to talk about you who got no disrespect. He'll call the man, old peanut head. I'm not really talking to him. I'm just referencing his act and what he said publicly. That's all. I'm sorry. I apologize, Chad. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:49 What you apologize for? You got me worked up, Joe. Joe, I don't never get like this. I know, man, got my man blood pressure up higher than anything. Hey, I'm sweating, man. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, Uncle, remember the last time me and Uncle was like this.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Joe, we were talking about boots and um, boots and um, who. Remember we were talking about boots. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Haney. And he would tell me to pick between, uh, one or the other. Boy, Joe? Boots and Haney? No, boots and, uh, Terrence Crawford.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Talk about you. You got, he was telling me, man, you got to pick one of the other. No, I don't. I ain't got to pick either one. Hey, boots, Cole. I like boots, oh, Joe. Hey, boy, we were going at it, boy. Look, that was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:34:39 That he get passionate about. He just gloss over. But once I see what I know would get to go. What do you say? Let me finish my point. Okay, go ahead. Let me say, what damn? I thought you were done.
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Starting point is 00:37:00 Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. You got another point to make. My bad, my bad. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Chad. No, I just think the thing is, is that if what was reported is true that the kind of relationship with Monk and Lamar had kind of deteriorated,
Starting point is 00:37:33 I think he's going to look at this as a breath of fresh air, give him an opportunity to get there. Because no matter what you think, especially when you're dealing with Lamar. he's the table setter. He's the guy that everybody's looking to. And when he's there, all is right in the world in Baltimore. In Raven Country, a raven's flock.
Starting point is 00:37:56 All is right. When your franchise quarterback is there, like, okay, we're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. Hey, Joe. What was up? When Lamar Jackson won those two MVP's, he wasn't there in the offseason.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Well, the first one, he was. He was there. Hey, ain't he up? Is he up for? Yes. Oh, ain't nobody. No, being up. He's getting his contract done this all season.
Starting point is 00:38:24 They redoing it. Yes, for sure. Yeah, right. His cap number too high. You got to lower that cap number and you got to take care of it because he's outperformed the contract that he signed. And normally with quarterbacks, when you outperform the contract, he's, you know, he's well on his way to being the best, the best player. Right now, I still think that's right. But I think when it's...
Starting point is 00:38:51 Hey, hey, Joe, you heard that? You heard what I just said? What's that? He's the best player. He outperforming last... You know what? He outperformed his contract. You know, he wasn't in the offseason program last year either.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Guess what he wasn't in the off season? He wasn't in the Super Bowl either. What? Hey, neither were the Broncos. Hey, I'm just saying. I know. Hey, I'm just saying. You know this and I know.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Quarterbacks, yes, I am not. Yes, I, yes. So, matter. Super Bowl matters. Yeah, you know, you can say,
Starting point is 00:39:26 well, he did this, he did that. Super Bowl's matter. Lamar Jackson gets a Super Bowl. Oh, it's a rap. That monkey, that monkey off his back. He can play the rest of his career and Cruz Control.
Starting point is 00:39:37 He might, he get to the Super Bowl. He might win another two MVP's. Yeah. Because now, because there is, because he wanted, oh man you ever wanted something so bad joe you want that thing oh joe you know you want this
Starting point is 00:39:52 thing so bad yeah and you're so close and it seems like as the time goes back you know having a conversation with john he's like man he went to the last Super Bowl in 89 and then we didn't go back and like damn because you think about it he went to three in his first six years first seven years he goes to three Super Bowls he didn't win them and then there's a stretch so we don't go in 90, 91, 92, 93, 94, 95. So that's six years. He had never gone that long without reaching the Super Bowl. So as time starts, you're like, damn, Danny, Marino goes in the second year, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:40:32 He plays 16 years. So for the next 14 years, he never goes back. And then you, right, damn, am I ever going to get this opportunity again? He just needs one. He gets one? I feel if he gets one, he'll win two more MVP's. Because now he really gets to play free. He really gets to play loose.
Starting point is 00:40:57 I think, you know, look, and he's a phenomenal talent. But when you get those early, I mean, look at Brady. Brady played with How's Money. Yeah. My Homeboy played with How's money. You get those early. What? How you, what you're going to say?
Starting point is 00:41:13 My home boy got three in his first nine years. first eight years as a start he's gone to five Brady in his first five years he had three Super Bowl two MVPs I'm free
Starting point is 00:41:25 y'all can't tell me nothing I just think the thing is that I just I just want him to get there I just want him to get to I want to see Lamar Jackson on the biggest stage for the most part we've always seen our greatest
Starting point is 00:41:40 quarterbacks be it Elway Marino Kelly Fav, Rogers, Brady, Montana, Manning, we've seen our best on that biggest stage. Now, they didn't always win, Ocho, but we've seen them on that stage.
Starting point is 00:42:01 We've got to see Lamar on that stage. Just one time. Like Luther Vandross say, if only for one night. For one night. If only for one night, I got to see that man on the stage. I got to see him.
Starting point is 00:42:16 I would love to see, hey, if I don't see him in LA, hell, I go see him in Atlanta. Hey, I might have to go see him in Atlanta. Yeah, he's special. He's special. I want to see him in that big game too, I can't know, Cho. I'm going to see him show up and show up. Let me think about, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:42:36 We don't see him purdy in the Super Bowl. I mean, we've seen some quarterbacks not nearly as talented. Yeah. There's Lamar. He's too talented not to get there at least once. I don't know what's going to happen, but I want to see him get there. And then I said, hey, whatever happens after that, he was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He didn't have his best stuff, blah, blah, whatever the case made me. But I just need to see him one time in the big dance. I see him in the big dance. I say, oh, Joe, man, hey, he got there. He didn't go his way, but oh, well. Damn, that, man, I want to see the damn cow going on. I don't know what you. Hey, hey, Joe, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It's a good chance the Cowboys can be there, boy. You know how? Yeah. If you play Madden. Come on. Come on. Come on, Cho. See how you going.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I'm going to tell you. See how you going? I ain't said nothing about your Bengals. I ain't even got on you. You see how you at? Oh, nah. Don't get on us. Why are you going to get on us?
Starting point is 00:43:44 I'm just saying, if you want to see the Cowboys in the, you know, in the Super Bowl. I mean, just play mad. There you go. You see I know you, Joe. No. You see what I'm saying? Okay. Okay. No disrespect. Yeah, I all disrespect. Yeah. I think it's Declan.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Declan. Declan? Declan? What are the chance? What do you talk about? Doyle. Declan. Declan. Declan Doyle. Declan Doyle. So I guess, how long? Man. When is the March What it's got to be free agency So it's got to be one of the April
Starting point is 00:44:26 The first one Minicamp is OTA is in April Because you know With a new system You get three You get three Kats Okay three mini camps Okay okay okay
Starting point is 00:44:38 With a new What did you say as Do we know when it is? Well the all season program Start in April Or is it March Damn they start early Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:53 Yeah Yeah. A win a draft. In May. Last week in April. What if it, Ash? Last week in April. What a draft at is, yon?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Okay. Pittsburgh. So. But you, did you have a, uh, uh, uh, uh, workout bonus in your contract, Ocho? Yeah. What, what was there? So what did you have to do, Ojo?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Not just be there. to work out. Yeah, 13 weeks. I mean, I would make an all-law anyway. I mean, you know, honestly, if I didn't have that incentive, I still would have been, I would have been there anyway to work out with Carson. You know why I didn't come? Because they know I like to work out.
Starting point is 00:45:58 See, if they know you like to do something, Ocho, guess what? They don't incentivize it. People that they don't know that you like to work out, they put $100,000, $1,000 of a million, $500,000 in their contract. They want to give me $50 a day. you're good huh oh no yeah it was it was a nice yeah i know i know i had teammates that had 150 250 500 000 but joe yeah mine was 500 000 man we can't give him that he loved a workout so we just give away money right that was fun but you know mike and mike told him mike says
Starting point is 00:46:36 i don't want i don't want shannon here shannon here shenna cannot get in shape, 84 cannot get in shape doing our thing like he can get in shape doing his own. But I don't trust y'all like I trust him. Right. So, hey, I was out of there. Hey, y'all let me know what, hey, when the camps, I come to that camp, you know, we had a three-day camp.
Starting point is 00:46:59 And then we had, you know, you have a three-day camp mini-camp or you have a week mini-camp. So you come in, you get, what, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you up out of there Saturday afternoon or whenever you leave. And then you have that week you come in on a Monday and you know if everything go good, then let you off Thursday at noon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Boom. Ocho is with a very, very sad heart that I bring this news to you. Vikings wide receiver, Ron Dale Moore, has died at the age of 25. According to the new Albany Police Chief today, Todd Bailey said Rondale Moore was found deceased with a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his garage on his property in New Albany, Indiana.
Starting point is 00:47:45 And investigation is underway. Randall Moore dead of a self-inflicted what is being reported of a self-inflicted gunshot wound at the age of 25. Man, my condolences, my condolence to the Moore family, man. Damn, that's sad. It is so sad. 25 years of age. It's been a very difficult
Starting point is 00:48:10 The NFL peer players association is devastated by the sudden and tragic passing of Rondell Moore. The immense loss is felt deeply across our union and we value his service as a player rep. Our condolences to the family are with Rondell's family, teammate and loved ones during this incredible difficult time. In moments like this, we're reminded of how much our players carry on and off the field. To our members, please know that the support is always within reach. check on your teammates and prioritize your mental health. If you or someone you know is struggling, we encourage you to take advantage of many confidential resources
Starting point is 00:48:45 available to you through the NFLPA. Damn. You don't know sometimes what a person is going through. And unless you've been through something, I'm talking about really been through something, you have no earthly idea. None. everybody says all this, all that you don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I promise you, you don't know. You have no earthly, earthly idea. I can't even begin to fathom the burden that that young man was carrying. And my heart breaks for his family, his friends, his loved ones, anyone that knew Rondale Moore, that cared about Rondale more, my heart breaks. 25.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Young, life just starting, but. And he did not, he thought this was his only way. This is the only way that that pain would go away. Damn.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Something so hard, so heavy that someone would take their own life reportedly. You don't know how bad pain is? Because, you know, a lot of times,
Starting point is 00:50:50 Ocho, I wouldn't do this, I wouldn't do that. Everybody will say what they would or wouldn't do. But until you end that situation, you never know. You don't know what you'll do. People never know. Everybody always says that, uh,
Starting point is 00:51:05 they do. That's what I would have did. I would have did this. I ought to did X, Y, and Z. No, you wouldn't. Bro, unless you walked a mile in that man's shoes
Starting point is 00:51:21 or that woman's shoes, You have no earthly idea. You haven't. And as I sit here and ponder when I got the news tonight that this young man was no longer here, what was so bad that he thought this was the only way? When you think you've gone through something, you can't go on and you feel that's your only alternative.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Because a lot of times you don't know. I mean, because a lot of times go to you call, hey, man, how you do it? Man, I'm good, man. You know, no, are you good? Are you really good? Because sometimes, you know, you just want to get up the phone. You don't want to be bothered.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Right, right. You don't want people in your business. And you just like try to make the conversation. But I'm glad I have the people that I have in my life. I'll say that. Yeah. Everybody doesn't have a brother and a sister like I have. And everybody don't have best friends like I have.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Dillmore family, I am so, so sorry. and I know words there's nothing I can say there's no amount of heartfelt speeches I know absolutely nothing can ease this pain that you're going through but what I can say is that I hope is that when you fall on your knees
Starting point is 00:54:06 and you ask the man above to give you strength give you courage and to give you understanding in your most trying time and hopefully as time passes you will have a better understanding but it's not going to be easy
Starting point is 00:54:29 you're never going to forget this moment. A heartbreak for his family 25 25 you think back and you think about what you were doing at 25 Ocho you're having the time of your life in the NFL Yeah you had reached the culmination
Starting point is 00:54:57 everything that you dreamed about when you was in Livia City and you and your boys you all running around going to the pool and doing whatever you were doing like man I'll be playing on Sundays one day and there it is you do it guarantee you when he was a kid he dream to playing in the NFL my brother you my brother always says a dream is a gift that you give to yourself and your dream should shock you if your dream don't shock you it's not big enough he dreamt to playing in the NFL he didn't dreamt of having season any injuries in 24 and 25 but he dreamt to playing in the NFL but something
Starting point is 00:55:44 came along and interfered with them. that. It's being reported Rondell Moore, unfortunately, he's passed away at the age of 25. Hollywood Brown, a former teammate of Rondell Moore in Arizona, said Rondell reached out to him just a few hours before he died. You wasn't alone, bro. I told you, I know how you feel. Bro, ain't no way, brother. You just messaged me a few hours ago. After missing the entire 2024 season with a knee injury, he suffered another season in the ACL tear during Minnesota's first preseason game, Jamal Adams tweeted. I'm not jumping to conclusions, but let me say this.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Fans and media will be quick to label player, injury prone. We don't choose to get hurt. Sometimes it just happens. Y'all don't see the rehab, the pain, the mental drain, it causes. The process can make you lose yourself. This issue is real. No matter how much support you get, you still got to fight that battle alone. Prayers up for Ron Dale Moore and his family.
Starting point is 00:57:00 He was a baller, no question. You do. And see, that's, that's the thing, Ocho. Mm-hmm. All the support. But what happens when the phone hangs up. You by yourself? Alone in your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:57:22 So when the phone calls, when they hang up, and then everybody go home, I'm right back to square one. I'm alone in my own thoughts thinking, man, is this a dream? Is this really, if this really my life, if this really happening, again,
Starting point is 00:57:46 You got to take the good with the bad, Ocho. And sometimes it's easy to question the bad. But not one time did you ever question God, why you bless me so much? Why you let me make it to the NFL? Why do you let me get all this money? Why do you let me have beautiful, healthy kids? Sometimes we only call on them when things go bad. But it's when the times of the things are at the best.
Starting point is 00:58:38 That's when he's carrying you also. But we just don't see it. Ron Delmore, to all his family friends of love one again, the nightcap family, Ocho and I. and everybody here associated with nightcap. I condones us. I thought our heartfelt thoughts and prayers. Ready for a different take on Formula One?
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