Club Shay Shay - Best of NFL News Part 2: Unc & Ocho WARN the Jaguars to be CAUTIOUS playing Travis Hunter BOTH WAYS in 2026, OBJ BACK to the Giants?!

Episode Date: April 4, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the best of NFL. Unc and Ocho react to Kirk Cousins signing a massive deal with the Raiders, despite only having one playoff win in his career. Later, they discuss reports that Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurts is uncoachable and Odell Beckham Jr.’s potential return to the New York Giants. Don’t miss this exciting episode from Nightcap! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Tom Brady inquired on return8:32 - Howie Roseman on A.J. Brown12:14 - OBJ to the Giants?16:47 - Vikings confident in Kyler Murray29:17 - Jaguars preview Travis Hunter's OTA plans34:55 - NFL to begin hiring replacement officials 41:00 - Largest private jet travel expense Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We explored a lot of different things, and I'm very happily retired. Let me just say that. to. I like that. Ocho? I like it a lot. I think obviously being a minority owner kind of ruins the possibility of actually coming back, but I'm more concerned with if you do come back, who would have been

the team that would have come back to play for? Because the bucks, they're solidified with Baker, who I think he's going who's going to get a big deal of this off-season. I think at some point, obviously the Patriots quarterback situation is solidified as well. So if he was to make a return, we're actually

with Brady would have been playing. He want to go somewhere where they got weapons. Y'all know that man ain't getting it because he ain't trying to go nowhere where he, you know, he want to go somewhere where they already got some good receivers, maybe even a good back, you know, some weapons he can use to his advantage. And y'all know what that said. My question is, well, what type of offensive line he's going to have? Brady ain't going to be able to take it.

Atlanta? Atlanta? saw him his last year. Atlanta? Julia said Atlanta? Why not? I just want to know where he goes. Who's the offensive line?

Because you saw how easy he was going down his final year in Tampa. He doesn't want to get hit. As you get older, you're less, you're going to want to get hit less and less. I think he. Now he's three, four years removed from taking a final hit.

He just still got the edge, Uncle Ocho. He'd love to play, man. You can tell. Well, he better go up against a wall and scratch his back. like we're doing the country. You know, we got to win you, and you go against the wall?

Yeah. Okay. Hey, I get flag football and they're talking about, oh, look at Brady and Dodge this run. Yeah, okay. Man, that's, child, please. Hey, man, Brady's say he take good care of himself, man. Y'all, y'all saying he can't, yeah, he does.

But he ain't, he ain't had a, a 280-pound man fall on him in four years. They can't follow him no more. You gotta brace yourself now. Oh, yeah, you show can't. You show can't put your weight on the quarterback, huh? Hey, but the 15-yard penalty, he probably, he can't take that. He can't take punitive man.

It's legit, bro. And Brady was not mobile, so you got to go somewhere that has an outstanding offensive line. Actually, the best offensive line in football last year were the Broncos. They got both Knicks. What a good team. It sounds good. I think Brady got us talking like, oh, Brady could come back.

Y'all need to stop this. If the NFL had allowed it, even though he's a minority owner. Let me ask you a question. How do they stop you from unretiring? What did they say? Tell me what they can do to start. If some team want to sign him, tell me what they can say to say no. They might have discouraged it, but how do they stop him from unretireing?

Him not having his sponsorships and all that. Yeah. What sponsorship? Yeah, he's going to have to put that, that 37 million that he's making per year for Fox. But guess what? Fox will hold that job for him until he comes back because he's Tom Brady. Now, again, I'm going to ask Ocho, Ocho.

Tell me what the NFL can do to say, you know what? Like I said, they might can discourage you. But if a team signed you, how do they say no? Obviously, Uncle, if you're a minority order for a team, I don't think. You'd have to divest that. We understand that. You'd have to divest your interest. You can't be a minority owner and be a person.

That would be the only way they can discourage it. Is he going to want to divest that? Probably not. Probably. If he was serious about coming back, hell, forget that goddamn ownership. I'm going to make for the ball. But that's the thing. Because if he was serious about coming back, he did that first.

You'd have heard Brady divested shares with the Raiders. That would have signaled to us what? Just like when Miles Garrett quietly reworked the language in the contract, What did that signal, Ocho? There's a possibility that Miles Garrett might get traded. I don't think he would, you know, get out of his deal with the Raiders, though, give up his percentage until he knew for sure. It was a chance of possibility.

But what, but, Joe, you make $37 million a year. Think about this. You make $37 million a year. You work 20 weeks a year. You got a, you bought 5% of the Las Vegas Raiders that's going to pay you, whatever the 5% was, whatever you pay. foot up, you're going to get, you're going to make your five percent back in five years. To come back and play what, one more year?

Maybe that's, maybe that's what he won't, huh? I mean, you, I mean, it makes sense to you. But in his position where money at this point, I mean, we talk about Tom Brady. You know why I know it didn't make sense to him? Because he didn't do it. He didn't do it. Because if he wanted to do, when does something ever stop Tom Brady from doing what he wanted to do for the, for the, for the, for the,

longest time, and we're not going to bring it, but for the longest time, his ex-wife wanted him to do what, Oh, Joe? Come home. I'm home. And he kept doing what? And there's probably a pretty good chance that that might have cost him his marriage.

So if Tom Brady wanted to actually do something, Tom Brady don't talk about it. Tom Brady does it. Yeah. So you're right. I mean, you're making that kind of money, but okay. And like I said, Fox would have hold that job, they put Olson, who does a great job, they'd put him back in the number one spot

until Tom Brady came back, came back, and then they put Tom right back in the number one spot, and Olson would have been to the number two spot. But the likelihood of him being able to get in, the Raiders at the price that he got in, say what, two years ago, probably wouldn't have been there. So. I know one thing, where they smoke, there's fire.

If the conversation is being had, he must have been serious about it. No, because if he was serious about it, he divested his shares. He didn't divest them shares. See, the Browns are potentially serious about doing what? Moving Miles Garrett-Arts-Ocho. Because they did put this because they didn't want that dead money on their cap.

What good is that, Ocho, if we trade him, but we got $29 million a dead cap space. Let the Cowboys or let the Eagles or let the Bears or whoever trade for them, let them deal with that cap hit. Not us. And I think the Browns are coming to the realization, like, as great as Miles is, I don't know if we can win with just him. We need a lot more pieces than Miles Garrett. We need like four Miles Garrett, but we need another one on defense and we need three more on offense. I'm not saying Miles Garrett per se, but I'm saying a Miles Garrett player. So it doesn't matter, Ocho.

It doesn't matter how great you are. The NFL's not spot. It doesn't matter how great you are in basketball. The NFL, guess what? They didn't stop when George retired. They didn't stop when Kobe retired. They're not going to stop when LeBron retired. They're going to keep making money.

And I don't care how great the player is. Do sports league? Yes. Babe Ruth retired, Hank Aaron retired, Barry Bonds retired. Every great player you know has a shelf life. And guess what? They keep looking. They keep booking.

It is what it is. It's the harsh reality of it. No matter how great you are, they're going to move on. Eventually. On to the next. Hi, Roland had a stock answer for every question about A.J. Brown

that he filled it from the local media. I understand there's an interest in A.J. Brown's story. I, unfortunately, have a home under a rock. But my answer to any question on A.J. is A.J. Brown is a member of the Eagles. From my perspective, anything you ask me about AJ, I'm going to write back to that answer.

But I understand the interest. I put it on TV and I see there's interest. But my answer is, AJ Brown is a member of the Philadelphia Eagles. You're going to keep it politically correct. You expect him to say that. You know, he's not going to pour gasoline on the fire. you know but we we we we we we we we know i think i think a j brown time is up you know in in philly

he did his due diligence while he was there he's frustrated with the offense he's frustrated with his usage i think i think he will be somewhere now where he will be i don't know i don't know but i can see the scenario and i'm telling you right now chat when it comes to me guessing and and foreseeing the future on where players are going i'm like 10 for 10 i'm like 10 for 10 i'm like 10 for 10, Chad, now you know that. I really think A.J. Brown will probably end up in Cleveland, and I can see Miles

Garrett going to play meaningful football and being in the playoffs this year with the Eagles. I'm telling you. Now, if I'm lying, I'm flying. And I'm sitting right here in my chair. It's just hard for me to see a scenario where he

is with the Eagles. I think there's a greater percent, a greater chance that he not on the Eagles, that he is with the Eagles. I think what Dallas did last year was pick up Pickens after the draft. I think, you know, I think that was what,

I think the Eagles really want to hold on to that, want to hold on and see, Cleveland, what y'all really trying to do now? Because, you know, we can make it worse than wild. Are you, mm-hmm. We can give you AJ and two-player two-first, or we can give you Jalen Carter into first. We can make it

work for a while because we just signed Jordan Davis. You got Hunt. I think that's the guy last year. I think Jordan Davis outperformed Jaylen Carter. So Miles Garrett, Jordan Davis got on the other side

with Braun, Cooper DeJon. They got Woolwood. They got Mitchell. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Wolling. That's what? He left Seattle.

He's in, he went. I like that. I like that. I think it's going to happen. Miles Garrett to the Eagles. Ocho said it first. I just beat, I beat Adam Schaefter.

Giants head coach John Harbaugh confirmed that the team has discussed a potential reunion with three-agent wire receiver O'Dell Beckham Jr. saying if O'Dell is an option, then we'll be looking at him. Sure. Harbaugh and OBJ remained close relationship after coaching him in

2023 where he had 35 catches, 565 yards, and three touchdowns. OBJ hasn't played since 2024 and was suspended six games in 2025 for a PED violation. Both Jackson Dart and Malik neighbors have reportedly told the team base support adding him. Ocho, look, I think he made some spectacular catches. Yeah, he moving real well. I think they got people. Can he help the Giants or just a feel good story? I think he could help the Giants, especially what he could do.

Listen, we don't need you to be that guy. We don't need you to be O'Dell Beckham that made the one-hand catch. What we do need you to do is be a viable option for Jackson Dart. That's it, you know, as a veteran presence in the locker room, help Malik neighbors. Obviously, you guys have a relationship, both went to the same college. You know, Malik neighbors coming off ACL. Again, I'm sure he's going to be somewhat. of what he was before he got hurt.

He's very young. You know, when you're that young, unc and it's time to recover, you got them, you hear like goddamn Wolverine. You hear me? Especially with technology and the rehab,

the rehab process that they have the day, I think it would be a good look for Odell to be able to go back to New York and finish what he started. Yeah. Man, Ocho, they get you on, man. They get you on that damn bike and they get you on that machine

where they bend your knee. They got that machine that bit. Yeah. because they're keeping that range of motion. You don't want, hey, you want to keep that range of motion. And your ass working out five days a week. It ain't like a normal, like you and I, we get hurt now, Ocho, we got two days a week. That's all the insurance is going to cover.

Now, if you want to pay more out your own life, you can't. But the only thing the insurance is going to cover is two days a week. In the NFL, you're going to get five days a week. And if it's a home, and guess what, Ocho, they'll have your ass there on Saturday before they take off. I know because we had a lot of guys that had ACLs and things like that. Oh, you get into five days a week. You get that two hours, you get that two hours. Sometimes, a lot of times then have them come like at 9 o'clock

because the guys that's going to, you know, you're trying to get them back to play. You know, they get their 7 o'clock meeting started 9 or special teams might start at 830, 815, something like that. So you got to go. And so they have those guys to come once you start your meeting. So 9 o'clock, they get their 9.15. but let's see what he got i like that remember one day one day right did i say that right wonald robinson excuse me he went to tennessee over there with um with cam so odell

would be perfect you know in that slot position um i mean i i like it huh i like it i like it he seems healthy he's moving really well obviously i know it's just flag football but flag football obviously you get you get to see a small sample size of a of a player and in it and and how healthy he is, you know, being able to move around and out there competing. Obviously, we know the NFL is completely different, but. For sure. I like it for Odell, man. I think he really wants to play.

And he just needs the opportunity. You just need the opportunity because he can still make plays. He can still get open. He can still one hell of a player, you know, when it comes to, you know, run after catch or getting the ball in his hands, I think he can do some damage. It depends on how much they use him. It's all about opportunities. How many opportunities are you going to give him, you know?

I would love to see what he could have been had he stayed healthy. Had he stayed in the Giants, had he stayed with the Giants. He was on a hell of a lot. Sometimes you don't realize what you have until it's gone. You think, Ocho, we talk about this all the time. Everybody always stayed the grass green on the other side. And sometimes the best place for you is right to hell where you are. Mm-hmm.

I bet he wish he had never left New York. probably he was never to really say played the injuries i think he broke his ankle before he left the giant did he tore that ACL remember ocho then he tore that ACL again in the super bowl Vikings head coach kevin o'connell spoke on kailomers saying what we're going to attempt to do to put collar in an office that can be comfortable with anytime calomery drops back with the ball defenses have to really think twice about double teams on justin jefferson with this type of explosive athleticism. If he does get out of the pocket,

it can be a huge play and change the dynamic of the game. Yeah. You like this. You said you like Kyle going to the bike. You like with JJ and Addison and Hawkinson coming back healthy. That defense playing really well if they can still play at the level that they played over the last couple of years. But you like this signing.

You like what you're hearing. Yeah, damn right. I like it. Listen, I like the fact. that Justin Jefferson gets a quarterback, not only gets a quarterback that's, he gets a quarterback that's not just stationary. He gets a quarterback that obviously they're going to make sure

they put a system around him that plays to his strengths. With that, you have a quarterback that can also play off script when things don't go well, when things fall apart. He can make something happen. Having a quarterback that can make something happen, you know, and make a play when an officer's play call is called and it doesn't go right, I see second chance, not point, second chance,

opportunities for all those receivers. Yes. Whether it's Justin, whether it's Addison, whether it's Hawkinson. Obviously, I'm not sure who the running back is because they let Aaron Jones go, right? No, no, no. Oh, you took a pay cut then? Okay, so he did stay. I like the addition.

Actually, I love the addition, you know, because of what he can do. He can play from the pocket. I think most of the time he's going to probably be in the gun. He's going to be in the gun. So he already has an advantage of not having to be on the sitter and drop back and not being able to see, you know, over their offensive line. So I think they're going to be all right. I think they're going to be all right.

Yeah. I like this. It had run its course in Arizona. I feel both needed a break from each other. You know, I don't know. I don't know if he really trusted them after the language that they put in the contract. I don't know why. First of all, I don't know why his agent allowed him, allowed them to put that in the contract.

and I don't know why he signed it. Well, I do know why he signed it. $200 damn million. That's why he signed it. Hey, I'd be, hey, Ocho, you got to be on time. 200 million. Man, I'm going to be here before time. As a matter of fact, I'm going to cut my camera on on days that we don't have the show

just to make sure if we do got the show, I'm not late. That's why he signed the contract. So let me take that back. But I don't know why. I do know why. Because there are times, there are things, Ocho. When you deal it with that kind of money, you're like, man, please. I'll go ahead bite the bullet on that one.

I'll bite the bullet on that one. But what I don't get Ocho with some of these guys is that when I signed my contract, I was already thinking about today's contract. Man, I'm trying to get, I'm trying to have me two good years on this contract. They tell that thing up and come back and see me again. Yeah.

That's how, Ocho, that's how I thought. Now everybody don't think like that. But I'm straight. You ain't never straight. I want to, hey, listen, I'm trying. I'm trying to hit their ass cross the head one more time and I want to make sure I'm better

than everybody else coming behind me because there's always somebody coming. One more time, I want to keep hitting him. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I'll be like cartoon. You know how car can't be hitting. And then he'll be going in the ground. That's how I'm trying to hit him on the head.

Hey, I'm going to go video game at the fair where they got, you know, it got the big. The pop-up. The pop-up. You try to. That's how I'm doing. I'm trying to do them like that every time. So, yeah, every time we'll pop up, I'm trying to hit him on the year.

But, yeah, I think, you know, and sometimes, Ochoa, it's just good to get a fresh start. Sometimes a breath of fresh air is what we need. Hey, listen, you got that. Recalibrate, you have a better appreciation. Like, you know, maybe you look at it like, man, hey, things weren't as bad as we thought. Because things are different everywhere you go. There's no situation that's exactly how you had it where you left from. That's with anything.

Ain't no job. You leave one job, and the job ain't the same. The people are different. The way they do business is different. You leave a relationship. She ain't exactly like the last one. Mm-mm.

Yo, she's getting nasty, but she might not be. You know, the little joke, you might not be. Damn. Hey, well, who you telling? You know?

Mm-mm. I've changed. I've changed. Oh, yeah, I've changed. They love to say, I used to, I used to deal with you. I used to date you. long time ago. I'm not the same person Monday that I am Friday. I'm completely I'm

evolved from Monday to Friday so what you dated what you dated you know two, three years ago I'm not the same person no more I continue to evolve with time. Oh you freaky or huh? God dang I ain't say all that I'm just saying you know you're a day you're that baby God dang I just you know I mean they say the more comfortably she is, the free of shoe gets for yo-jo? That's not, yeah. That's what they say. That's what they say. Sometimes it don't even take comfort.

It all depends on your zeros. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It depends on your zeros. You might not even know who she is. They say the more educational woman have, the free of the kids. Yeah, especially this. I also heard the ones that wear the glasses that look like librarians.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had a glass on like. Yeah, yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm telling you what hurt. I'm not saying I experience it. I'm just tell you what hurt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Go ahead and take the thing around him off. Let me get them.

Let me go and help you with him. I don't want you to be a lot. Oh. Oh, four eyes. Oh. You got it in here? Yeah, but see, here's a thing. No, oh, I mean, Ocho, is that if you got them,

them. Hey, hey, speaking of them things, hey, what, what my shipment? You got to put it in April 1st. Okay, okay, okay, that's what, tomorrow? Next, that's, that's, Wednesday, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I didn't. You don't went through all of him. They are, they all, they all. They all.

I know, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I, yes, I did. I did it. Oh, Joe. Let me find that you walking around the house like this. God, die.

Come on, O. I listen, it's new for me because I've never taken anything like that. And the fact that it got me feeling like I'm 21, 22 again. It absolutely will. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. It's a good thing. So, yeah.

Yeah, I'm on E. I've been on E for a while. I just didn't want to say anything publicly. I didn't want people to judge me. Because, you know, people on the outside, they tend to judge, you know. That's okay. Yeah, so damn. Man, Ocho, not all the time.

Oh. Every time. Yeah. Ain't that the point? Or do I, am I supposed to save something for special occasions? My goodness. I know. What I don't want to do, Uncle, is I don't want to get addicted to it.

I don't want to. You don't want to do. You already addicted. I don't think so. I think I could stop if I need to. I mean, literally. Well, technically. A, D, I C, C.

did but we but if you the D D-D-I-C-T-E-D I'm not addicted because I haven't had any I've run out for a while and I've been okay

she knows the difference you think so a hell yeah yeah wait she can't tell me that I got the ass boy she know the difference I got I got the ass I got I got the ass

because I mean usually if if there's a difference I would hope she would come to me and say listen I don't know what you what's going on on but whatever you gave me on Monday I want that back yeah brain brain you know the first yeah bring that wood leave that second one that you can't win leave him on please yeah yes you know I matter of fact I can't deal with that I can't deal with that I can't I can't I can because that that would be a blow honestly and tell me something to tell me something like that

and I feel like I'm putting it work and I'm I feel like I'm putting it work and I'm I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do and the fact that I didn't take something, you know, and you come and tell me, well, it ain't what it, it ain't, it ain't what it, what it was. Hey, they told, she told me, she told me. What happened? Because it's the first time, you know, I'm going, hey, like I said, I, look, I'm a good quarterback, been to a promo, but I wanted to be. Okay, okay.

I wanted to go to multiple pro bows. I wanted more. Right, right. I want to, hey, I want to try to stir like call. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Slow and steady. Yes, sir.

So I put it on. Yes, sir. Hey, hey, first impressions. It lasts forever now. Ooh. She said, boy, you weren't lying. She said, she said, boy, you weren't lied. Man, I swear, Ocho, I finished.

Ohcho, she got down the knees, she looking up on the bed, she opened up the closet. She said, who left you? She said, ain't no way, no one man did that right there what you did to me. What a God, Ocho? She said, ain't no way what person did what you did. So you don't be, Ocho, hey, when I'm going to see you again, I ain't have it on me.

You know, I went in and then trying to thought I did. You know, I did what I could. Did what I could, Ocho. You know what I'm saying? You know how you have the handy of man. I come back and do the rest of the tomorrow. You know, next time, I come back when I get. I call her, say,

and said, what's up? What's going on? She's, I ain't doing nothing. I said, when I'm going to see you again? She said, what you got going on tomorrow? A Thursday. Because this one, I said, I ain't got nothing.

She said, okay, I'll be free Thursday after 8 o'clock. I said, okay, I see you at 8. She said, She said, bring that dick you head the first time. I said, okay. I want it. I want it, Ojo. I'm on it. So,

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Ocho, you know what? I should ride a book. Hey. Hey, boy, if somebody told me that, boy, if somebody told me that, boy, hey. I bet, you know what, don't even worry about it. Yeah, y'all, no, no, I'm worried about it. They don't even worry about it.

And best believe. Yeah, see, I need them. Hey, Roe, if y'all listen, y'all need to come out with that liquid. Oh, hey, that. Y'all didn't come back that liquid. So we're getting your system faster, huh? Yeah, I like that.

I like that. I like that. Hey, I like that. Like that GLP that they came out with? Boy, that was a good one, boy. That was a good one. Whenever Travis Hunter is clear to return to the practice field this spring, he will be spending more time each day taking reps on both sides of the ball.

That's a change from his rookie season where he spent the bulk of his OTA, in mini camp on offense. Liam Cohen, who's the head coach, says, I think we're going to blend this offseason schedule with him a little bit better than what we did last year, which is more like focus per day on one side of the ball, as we did in the season, where he was more back and forth on both sides of the ball

throughout the day. That might be a little bit more worth trending. Hunter is coming off season ending knee surgery and will eventually be medically cleared to return to OTAs. Ocho, do you learn? like this yeah i i i like it i love it it's what he did in college obviously we we we had debates about whether he would be able to do it at the highest level being how much it would take out of him based on the type of players and talent he would be going against whether he's playing at dby or

whether he's playing a receiver and we felt for him to be actually great he has to play one position but he made it clear he made it known that wherever he goes he would love to play both sides you know both sides um you know of the ball so for Travis hunter who we who we who we called the Ferrari, you know, was, you know, the Ferrari was in the garage, you know, this season due to injury. So I'm hoping, you know, he comes back healthy and he's ready. He puts on a little bit more muscle to prevent, you know, small injuries like this based on the workload that he's going to have, having to play both sides of the ball. So I'm excited. I'm excited for him. Hopefully he can have success in doing both. And even if you're not great on both sides of the

If you can be good and give your team what they need at that position and make the plays you made being instinctive like you were in college, I mean, I think it's a good thing. I think I'll be cautious, Ocho, because he's coming out of an injury. Yeah, season needs to insert. Season ending knee surgery. I would be really cautious because I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to over-stress it. And I understand that, you know, you want to do a better job of blending him and have him going back. and forth, but that's a lot of taxing. That's a lot of planting and cutting going one way,

and that's a lot of backfell and dipping, planting coming the other way. So I would just say be cautious with that. But there's no question his conditioning. But I want to see it. Yeah. I want to see it. He believes that he can play 75 plays,

playing both ways. I mean, no, he believes he can play an entire game, both offense and defense. I think that's a bit. I was asking a bit much. But I think, hey, let's find out. He believes it. They believe it.

Because the only way this works, Ocho, you trade it up and you traded a first-round draft pick to do this. So for me, it has to work. He has to be every bit of what you thought you were getting when you traded that pick. Because basically they moved up, what, one spot, two spots? Yeah, to grab you. Yep, at two.

Yeah. So Parker Washington, Jr., a Parker Washington played extremely well. I think they got a tight end name Strange. I think he played well. Now, they're going to be without, they lose Travis A-chan. A-Chann, yeah, not A-T-N. It's not A-T-N. It's A-T-N.

I don't know who the other receiver is. Wait, hey, wait a minute. Who just went to the 49ers? Huh? Parker Washington, he's still there? Yeah. Okay. Christian.

I think about Kirk. But Christian. You know, he went from, he went from the Jags. Okay. Houston. Houston. Okay. Okay.

I keep, I get Christian Kirk and, um, him mixed up. I said he moved up three spots. I appreciate that, bro. But I know they gave, I mean, they gave him a first round draft pick to move up three spots. And so when you move up that, that guy's got a difference maker. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Got to be a difference maker. And so, uh, huh? Jacoby Myers. Oh, yeah. No, they got him from. The Raiders. Yeah. Yeah.

What's got about Jacoby? Jacoby. Yeah, they got, Jacobi Myers is the other receiver. So Parker, Washington, Jacob Myers, Strange. Christian Kirk was gone last year.

And so Trave is in, will be in the mix. Jacobi, a, Jacoby was bawling too when he came. Oh, yeah, for sure. And, and Trev, he seemed like this,

this offense is kind of suited. The coaches, the coach, he and Liamson to be on the same wavelength. this is why they selected him number one. This is why I say when you step foot in college, say he's going to be, when he comes out,

he'll be the first, he'll be the first player taking. This is what, you look at him last year, you say, okay, now I see what everybody saw. Win the national championship as a true freshman. Get some there,

gets them till the championship again, even though they lose. Hey, he got the goods. Oh, and what you call them, Brian Thomas Jr. Joe, he's coming off an injury. That's right.

Beat, beat, beat. How we forgot about him? Brian Thomas. He had a hell of a year. Hey, they got a nice little rookie season. Kind of tapered off a little bit with the inconsistencies last year, though. Yes, yes, yes. He's going to be all right.

He's going to be all right. He definitely needs to be all right, also. He definitely needs to be all right. Oh, Cho, the NFL is moving forward with plans to begin hiring and training replacement officials in the next several weeks because the negotiation with the NFL Referee Association have stalled of the current CBA expires May 31st. The NFL has offered a 6.45 annual growth rate

over the next year is a deal. The NFL RPA, the referee association, is asking for 10%. Plus 2 million in marketing fees. The average NFL official earned 385,000 in 2025. Training of replacement officials to be recruited from the college rank is expected to begin as early as May 1st. The last time NFL used, replacement officials within 2012.

And you remember, Ocho, the failed Mary. The ball hit the dirt. They gave the guy a touchdown. And I think it was the Seattle beat Green Bay on the situation. If replacement players, ref take the field in 2026, how bad does it get, Ocho?

Does it affect the integrity? I think it does affect the integrity of the game. I understand that they are officials, maybe at the college level, maybe even at the high school level. You never know what their experience are. I mean, it is, obviously. but the best officials to have at the highest level are those that are familiar with the game,

those that have been doing it at the highest level for a very long time. And of course, human error is inevitable. They're going to get it wrong sometime. But for the most part, those that have experienced, those have been doing it for years, are the best ones to do. Hopefully they can get this situation, you know, solidified and expedited, you know, so the referees are there. If you have replacement reps, there are going to be mistakes.

many more than what we already have when the regular reps are in. It's just and just this is what business is about. It doesn't matter how much the NFL makes. They're trying to keep as much as they can. Yes. While paying out as little as they possibly can be it players, be it officials. So this notion that we want the best. No, you don't.

You want the most affordable. That's what you want. Revenue keeps going. going up expeditiously. Crazy. These guys pay them compensated. Especially the referees. I mean, you say, you know,

and I think they released a statement like the NFL is not being disingenuous. They're being disingenuous. They're trying to negotiate through media, you know. The NFL is always trying, if you notice the NFL, I told you I wasn't going to say anything, but I can't. I can't keep my mind shut. The NFL is always trying to cap, trying to cap salary. They always try to put a cap on how much somebody can make.

You notice that, don't Joe? Always. But they don't put no cap on the sales. No, absolutely not. They want to put a cap on the players. How much the players, you got a salary, you already got a salary cap. But now, you know, a player in this thing,

this is the most he can make. Now they're officials, X, Y, Z. And is it true that the officials, they don't get medical benefits covered? They don't. I don't think so I think I read some

Go ahead don't you What happened? Oh you're trying to see something Oh you're looking for something about the officials If I could be the one NFL officials who are generally classified As part-time employees Rather than full-time league staff

Do not receive the same comprehensive Health Insurance benefits As headquartered employees According to the recent labor dispute While they receive 401k travel plan stipends and compensation for games they have historically lacked traditional medical coverage in the NFL health insurance dispute a major contention of the labor negotiations have been the lack of health care benefit for on-field officials i thought i had read that where they

said that was a really speaking point for them i don't think they get it it or it's not the same level as what the yeah well employ you it's kind of like it's kind of like congress congress get platinum coverage and then you try to scrap and try to find a silver or or or or a piece together playing where they get top of the line coverage yeah we'll see hopefully hopefully they get this thing resolved because that's last thing i want to see replacement officials on sundays because you are because oh because we are what anytime of a barren call they already think he only somebody on the cake somebody made a call you don't want i mean and you and you and the And considering that the prop bets and everything is going on,

the conversation is getting louder and louder. Ocho, these are the college football biggest spenders on private jets in 2025. Alabama, 1.2.35 million. Nebraska, $1.136 million. University of Michigan, $1,78,000. A&M, 925,000. it's 8.817,000, as you can see the list right now on your screen chat. Yeah, we, hold on.

Where do Wyoming go for $3,000? There must be just drove that thing around the hangar, just cranked it up and back. That's it, just to make sure it crank up. You ain't flew nowhere. Hey. You can't even go from Laramie to Jackson Hole for $3,000. And most of those trips, right, Unk? Is that for the head coaches or just for players that they bring in on visits?

I don't think, I think the coach, I think the coaches, I don't think that's, they don't put that in there. I mean, that's probably put a, no, I'm saying that's probably, yeah, I'm going to say, like bringing them in, um, on, on, on visits. And the family, the top guys or talk or, or, or guys that's right. Right. Right. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Hey, that, that's, that's not bad.

And the numbers aren't that bad based on how much the goddamn entities in colleges make in general. Yeah. That's not bad. that. It's nothing to do with games, so we're not surprised. But I'm trying to figure out where Wyoming went. I'm trying to figure out where Oregon State went, where Houston went, where did they go for $14,000?

Hey, that's enough. That's enough for my beavers. You know, we, we, we, we going through it as it is right now. We're going to be all right. Oh, Joe, where are you going for $11,000? Hey, probably to Portland. Portland and right back. You probably should drooled.

Oh, hey, my beef is going to get back right, man. I'm telling you. I don't know, Ocho. Y'all looking, y'all. Hey, it's rough. It's rough. I'm not even going to lie to you. It's rough right now.

There's such a huge imbalance right now with Oregon State and Oregon. You know, but back in my time when I was there, hey. Y'all put something on the Oregon? Did we? We lost one game that year, huh? We lost to the Huskies. And you know what we did the Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. Yeah, y'all y'all.

Hey, we had a team of nothing but junior junior college players. Man, all you guys, man, I'm to buy dogs everywhere, all the way across the board. Offense and defense. Hey, Dennis Erickson was one hell of a coach, man. Uh, I think I saw, so I was reading somewhere today. I don't know it might have been AI that, uh, what you call it getting ready to build a, uh, a hundred and 70 million dollar facility. Oregon. Oregon.

That, that might be believable. unbelievable. They already got there. I'm sure I have, I've never been to their facility. Man, yeah, you see their facility. They got, they got barbers chairs. Is it? So it ain't by reputable.

Okay, okay, okay. So I even brought it up. Hey, especially Oregon. I know they got stated art everything. Stated art, everything. I could imagine. I've never been there. It's just the fact that Phil Knight went there.

So I know. I know they get first dibs on everything. They got, Ocho, they got, I mean, the shoes, the color wave, everything. They get first deal on everything. Ready for a different take on Formula One? Look no further than No Grip,

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