Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Preseason Week 2 Part 2: Bears are LEGIT?!+ Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show 

Episode Date: August 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break #1 overall pick, Cam Ward's preseason so far, the Chicago Bears looking like contenders and Giants RB, Tyrone Tracy Jr. joins the show! Plus, much more! 0:00 - Takeaways from Cam Ward's preseason 9:46- Bears legit contenders? 25:19 -  Bengals vs Commanders Recap 30:27 - Tyrone Tracy Jr. Joins the show  (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports Network. Beat the Falcons 2320. Cam Ward finishes 2 of 7 for 42 yards. Should have had one more completion. Should have been 3 of 7 at the bare minimum, Ocho. But from what you saw, what did you like about what you saw from Cam Ward? I mean, listen, a continuation of what he did the first piece in the game. Obviously, he was only

two for seven, but there was a drop Van Jefferson on that overrout that he should have had. That was a beautiful throw. I seen a lot of people in the comments when I mentioned the throw, being that it was overthrown. I'm like, what do you talk about? That's a good for a professional receiver?

Yeah, that's a very catchable ball, and it was the dime. Outside of that, a few drops. You had a few drops. Other than that, it was good. It was good. People will look at the stat line and say, he doesn't look the same as opposed to how he did in the first game,

but still he was the same calm, poise, and control everything, and he made good decisions with the ball. Yeah, I agree with you, Ocho. My thing when I'm watching is his poise and patience in the pocket, him not getting rattled. And he's making the right reason, Uncle Ocho. I think that's the biggest key.

You know, I sit back and watch these young guys coming to this league, this grown man league, just to see how they adapt and how they are in the pocket with this. You know, Cam Waters should do. I enjoy watching those guys play, man. They look like they look like they end for a pretty good season. Yeah, but I will say too, Angin, Joe. Go ahead. What we have to be cautious about is it is preseason.

These defenses are very, very vanilla, and the quarterbacks haven't got hit yet. I know they look polished, you know, based on what we've seen so far. But when you get hit upside to head a few times, you know, and you get the jitters a little bit, will they still be able to have that same calmness, that same relaxness, that same poise under pressure when you've been hit a sack a couple of times?

You can play fast, but not in a hurry. I think the thing is that you have more time than you think. And a lot of times when rookies come in, they speed themselves up. And it's normally their second year, Joe, and Ocho, you heard people say this all the time. All of a sudden, the game slowed down for me.

Yeah. And that's what you want to have happen. You want the game to slow down. You don't want the game to speed you up. Absolutely. Fast, but don't play in a hurry. I like Cam Ward's poise. I agree with you, Joe.

I like his poise. I thought it was very deliberate. Yeah, he had some very unfortunate situation where the guy dropped the ball. A professional wide receiver, got to make that catch. Now, if you're in high school, you don't make that catch, okay, fine. But as a professional, a guy that's getting paid to catch the football,

those are the type of, that's what you paid for. Yeah. That's what you're paying for. You pay, you know, to make the difficult ones. I mean, hey, you're going to make the routine. You've got to make enough of the routine ones. But every once in a while, you've got to come down with a, you know, you got to help your quarterback out.

He's not going to always be able to hit you between the numbers. And so now this is your opportunity to help him out. But I like what I saw from Cam Ward. I really did. Atlanta fell behind. But, you know, Austin, Eastern, Easton stick. He came in and threw the ball because, you know, Pennix Union. didn't play at all.

That's the only thing to Ocho. I was like, damn, they'll let these guys play at all. Yeah. Yeah. Ocho, I couldn't even imagine. Could you imagine standing on the sideline the first, second preseason game, Ocho, and not even dressed out? Hey, you know how I am.

You heard enough stories about how I was. I'm practicing. I'm, excuse me, not practicing. I'm playing in the preseason. I don't care. I do not care. I had my coach every preseason game. I forced Coach Lewis to call timeouts in the preseason, Joe,

just to give me out the game, man, I need these reps. I need to get acclimated to game speed, game speed. I don't care we could practice 100 times, Joe, we can practice 100 times. It's different. And I wanted my body, I wanted my body to get accustomed to that as fast as possible before week one came along. Go ahead, Joe. Go ahead. I think a lot of the guys, especially top guys who don't really play a lot

in the preseason. Okay, Ocho, is it because they take all the rips and snaps in practice and they don't want to hold them into the game? We don't. Like, uh, we normally,

we normally break it down, Joe, we normally have 50 to 60 plays practices scripted. And of those 10 plays, so we go, I don't know how y'all did Ocho, but we did 10 plays.

Yeah. The starters, the starters would probably take six to seven of those snaps. Now maybe there's a, maybe, maybe a repeat. Something didn't go well and Mike would say, okay, I want to see that again

with the starters, but you're going to take at least seven, the starters is going to take at least at bare minimum seven of those reps. And then the other three will get divided up and okay, fine. But so you're going to get the lion's share of the rep. The reason why it's different, Ocho, is because you've got to realize

come game time, your pads are taped down. Now they feel tighter. A lot of guys got all their pads in their pants. They're going to feel tighter. So I needed to get accustomed to that because in practice, ain't nobody taping no jerseys. Right.

No. We're taping our jerseys now. I mean, come game time, we take, hey, them things, tight. Yeah. Tight, tight. And go ahead. And y'all know the fans,

they're ready to see it. I wanted to see Pennings get out there a little bit and spend it, you know, at least for a quarter, Uncle Ocho. But, you know, I know he got some high power weapons. He's talked a lot, you know, in this past week about how high power they are offensively and what he expects

out of that Falcon's core with that wide receiver core that he has. And I think a lot is going to determine on how quick he can pick up on things and how soon can he adapt to being like one of the top quarterbacks in his league. All I know is this. If I'm going big game hunting,

the first time I fire my weapon ain't going to want to see that big game. I'm going to get some shots off. Yeah, yeah. I know y'all don't hunt, so I, excuse me, but I'm just trying to give you an analogy. You understand what I'm saying. If I'm going big game hunting, the first time I fire that shot

is not going to see what I'm looking at something. I'm going to make sure this thing is capable of firing. Right. In case you have to make some adjustments. Exactly. Exactly. Maybe my aim. Maybe there's some adjustments that I need to make.

But I'm not going into the game without having seen these guys do something. And OTAs and minicabs and training camp and joint practices, all that's fine and good. That ain't the game. Even joint practices are different than the actual game. Your mindset is different than the actual game. Absolutely. And so that's, and like I said, I think my last year, Mike said,

hey, you're not going, but I want you to come in and get to work. So I came in, got my 15, 21, 10s. He said, hey, just warm up. Hey, get you a good workout in. And that's it for the evening because I want to take a look at these other guys and see what I got. I already know what I got with you for. Okay, cool.

But, Ocho, I had them play three games. Hell, I played the first game, the second game, the third game. So what the hell is he looking for in the fourth game that I haven't done in the first three that he needed to see in game four? So I get that. But these guys, Ocho, they don't play game one. They don't play game two. I'm like, and some of them don't play at all.

The preseason is a lot shorter nowadays, right? Yeah, it's only three games. It's only three games. And even in the NBA, it's a lot shorter. We should play at least 10 games. So I think it's a lot shorter like five or six games now. Yeah. So, yeah, man, these guys wait, man,

that rhythm and time, man, Archeon. You can't substitute that, bro. You can't substitute them game reps, man. You can't substitute that. You can go and practice and run as many drills you want, it just don't, it don't add up. No, sir. Woo.

Yeah, but that's, that's, that's the difference now, Ocho. That's not what we have. Ocho, we might have been able to get a cup squeeze a couple of more years, Ocho. I took some hits in preseason. You were like this. Hey, I played 14 years. I played in the preseason every year at least three to four games. Oh, Joe, by you bulljabing, that's two seasons.

Hey. I could have got a six feet. No, I was good. I was good. But I like what I saw with K.M. Ward. I think he's going to be fine long as they can protect him. I like the receivers, but they're going to have, you know, sometimes you got to make tough catches for your quarterback.

Sometimes you got to help him out. You ask, you ask the quarterback to help you out. Like, I would always say, John, just protect me. I'm going to make an attempt. even when I'm going over the middle. Right. Give me an opportunity because I want to take the shot in my back, not in my face. Because if worse come to worse, Ocho, I'm going to jump like this here over the middle

and get a shot in the back. Yeah. I ain't really trying to do this like this here. Yeah, most definitely. Most definitely. So I'll take the shot in the back, Joe. I ain't tried to get that face on. Kind of like what, you remember when Anquan Bowden got hit.

Yeah. Remember that shot he took it down? And he came back. You don't want that shot in the face. you want that shot in the back. So I always tell your quarterback to protect you. Get fired up, y'all. Season two of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway.

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The opening drive, Williams led on a seven-play, 92-yard drive. Williams completed 5 or 6. 97 yards, 36 of those yards came on a touchdown pass to Olamade, Zakia, Zakias. Yeah. Man, I know it's the preseason, don't you? And I don't want to get to, I don't want to get too far in front of this, but the bears look good. Right.

Why was I just getting ready to say that? I would get ready to say the same thing. Listen, I know, I know what Caleb Williams could do. I've seen, I've seen, I've seen them at USC. I've seen flash of them last year. Without someone like Ben Johnson at the helm to help him develop, without Ben Johnson's creativity from an offender standpoint, understanding what he can do and help Caleb get to that next level at the quarterback position,

I want to talk about that goddamn Luther Burden. That goddamn Luther Burden, boy, look good, boy, look good, boy. That goddamn rookie at receiver, bro, Luther, I've never met you before, but you look good tonight. Obviously, in the preseason, people say, oh, it's preseason, don't get too high, don't get too low, just, but you look good, boy. I've been watching the past two weeks this week. I mean, it doesn't matter who's throwing the ball.

I'm not sure why he's running with the twos and the threes. What you mean? So he's going to play in front of Rome and Dunezay and DJ Moore? No, no, I obviously, I mean, three receivers. Okay, Zakeas is in the slot. Ooh, that's a, hey, hey. They got some decisions to make over there offensive because he looked good. Now, maybe when they go five wide and you saw,

they ran a lot of tight inset they had Loveland and they had cold command. Now he is a multiple set he'll run a lot of different sets he'll go too tight he'll go three wide he'll go five wide

he'll go empty with his backs out but this offense looked really I thought overall I thought they played well I thought the defense got after the bills I thought the offense moved the ball

whether it was Williams Bajette I guess that how you say his name he came in with 13 or 22 for 196 in a touchdown I thought Williams was unbelievable. The opening drive to go 92 yards on five or six passing. He had 107 yards.

They had over 500 yards of offense. And like I said, I don't want to get too far in front of myself, but they look good. Right, right, right. But they did look good, and they're going to be a lot better because they have a guy that has an offensive mind because you got a quarterback and you need somebody that's imaginative, that has an imagination to put him in position and say,

hey, son, I want you to be you. I'm going to put you in the best position, possible. The offensive line is much improved. The offensive line is much improved. Very much. The Bears look good. And like chat, y'all look, I know it's preseason. It's only the second game of preseason. And I really don't want to like get a speeding ticket. But let's just say I'm going forward into 35. I ain't going 55, 60, but I'm going I'm a little over the speed limit. I'm liking what I'm seeing from the Bears. Yeah.

And I'm going to say this again. I think I said it on either last night show, maybe I said this time last week. The same teams that are always in contention are going to be in contention this year. Chat, I'm going out on the limb. I'm going to say it before the season even gets here. The two teams that I think are the

dark horses to surprise everybody and make a run and having a playoff appearance the Chicago Bears and the Carolina the Panthers. I'm telling you people might in the chat you might laugh but say yeah right whatever whatever I'm telling you watch and when it happens don't don't call don't call me Ultradamus

I just know I just I just understand how things are going to play out I'm excited I'm excited for the football season man like you don't understand yeah it's right around the corner it's right around the corner we're uh what September 4th so yeah Thursday night Dallas and Dallas in the Ewe So we're about three weeks away. Well, we're two weeks from, we're two weeks from Thursday, right? So two weeks from Thursday.

Okay, that's not bad. What the hell are we supposed to do in between that time? We'll find something to talk about. We talk about you scored zero points in the big three. Celebrity game. That's a whole show by itself. I mean, it is a whole show by itself. I can see if I scored zero and we lost, but the point of a team game is the winner.

First of all, you can't score zero. I mean, you can score whatever you want. You had zero. You know, if you score, that means you put something on the board. I ain't scored no touchdowns. You're not understanding. I was, listen, listen, there are so many other aspects to my game outside of just scoring because we already had two prolific scores on the court.

So what did I do? My defense of presence, oh. Hey, I was like this. I'm sorry. They couldn't even get by me. And then I had them messing up turning the ball over. You should have saw me. You should have been cross-side, man.

it over he did he had 21 and 13 i made go hold on i made gilly turn it over twice turn the ball over twice they're playing defense and they tried to pick and i squeezed right through the pick like michael jackson went right through the pick ah no no no sir i got skinny real quick um i got skinny real quick no you fall you fall over the screen now i went no i no i ain't i ain't i ain't you fall through it i went right through it but i got skinny so we it didn't work it Yeah, well, listen, man, listen, so many other aspects in my game was on point where I didn't even need to be a score. That's how great I am. That's how great I am.

I think in watching the Bears, I think Iber Fluse and his system or whomever he had coaching Caleb Williams, this is the best. This is the best we've seen the Bears office. Look, Chicago scored zero touchdowns on his opening possessions last year. So in 17 games, they had zero touchdown on opening possession. And like I said, I understand this is a preseason game. They had the most drives ending in punts. They were dead last in total offense. So, look, you can't go nowhere but.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The bears were dead last in total offense last year? Yes, 32. I like them to finish in the top 10. I like them to finish in the top 10 with all limb goddamn weapons. Yeah, they got some weapons. They had two, I mean, they had 43 carries. And the thing is that I like about him, that he, he'll run it and he'll throw it.

They had 39 pass attempts. They had 43 rush attempts. First of all, that's a lot of, that's a lot of damn plays, even for a preseason. Yeah. Let's get that out of the way. But it's the bill, it's the bill's fault. It's the bill's fault. Too many goddamn three and outs.

Grubesky, Mike White. Frank Gore Jr. looked good. He had a fumble, but he reminds you of his dad. Yeah, you got to have that thing high and tight, especially when that traffic. He didn't see him coming. He saw the guy from the side and that guy just pulled it out.

But I, but. A little peanut punt. And they are in a tough division. That is a very tough division that the bears are in. You got green, Bay. You got Detroit. You got Minnesota. So you got to get better. You don't

have no choice. One thing you have to get better on is putting up points. Oh, you got to score. Because every other team you just name, they're putting up points. And I'm not talking about field goals either. But it's going to be interesting to see what Detroit is without Ben Johnson.

Well, hey, wait a minute. You got to understand. Even without Ben Johnson there, the same players are still there. So I think even with the creativity, regardless of if the creativity isn't there, the players of the call, they still have players that can go get it. James Williamson, Williamson, oh, God, why I'm talking so fast? Slow down, Ocho, slow down.

Jamo, go get it. Amon Rossi Brown can go get it. Jamir, you know what you get from David Montgomery and Jamir Gill. Because, I mean, I think regardless of who's calling the plays, the play calling job is that easy because of the elite talent at his disposal to be able. to use. Well, if it was that easy, so why wasn't Chicago any better than what they were if all it was about players? Because they got the same players. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's no Amman Ross

St. Brown. But you said, you, we said they look good. Did we not say the bears look good? Now, what player that we said look good that wasn't there last year? You told me it's the player. It doesn't matter who the play caller is. So it shouldn't matter that Iber Fluse was there or whomever the play caller was. Oh, I'm, listen, I'm speaking specifically on personnel and skills. Caleb Williams, was he not the quarterback? Let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's, you know, you know, you understand what you're not, you know, I'm going back I tell you what, how about this here? You, who has, and who has the better players, and I mean,

no disrespect it with the bears have. I'm just saying, take the bears aside. It's level, right? I give you another example. What happened to the Eagles, when they lost both of their coordinators after going to the Super Bowl. They had the same players. Jalen Hurts was there. A.J. Brown was there. DeVante Smith was there. What happened the next season? Did they look the same?

It's not a true question. Hold on, I know it's not a true question, but I'm Okay, we're going to. They went to the Super Bowl. They lost. They lost both. coordinators, the offensive coordinator and the defensive coordinators. The same players were there.

Did they look? Oh, wait. Hey, is that the, is that the year where the defense couldn't tackle a goddamn couldn't tackle a soul? You say it didn't matter. Yeah, I think, I think. Hey, no, no, no, why are you going to put me in there? He's make it to the point.

Because the Eagles problem was their defense. They wouldn't tackle no goddamn. What about the offense? And it, hey, to that point, it looked like they was doing no goddamn purpose. What about the offense? How did the offense look? It was all right.

It was all right. Jayland Hurts had more turnover in the first half of the season than he had the entire season the year before. But you say they looked the same. Oh, no. But you can't, wait, hold on.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't blame the offense of wolves on an individual player on the person called that day. I'm asking you, did their office look the same as the offense that went to the Super Bowl? Did their defense look the same

as the defense that led them to the Super Bowl? That's all I'm asking. asking. No, but listen, I tell you what, I tell you what, I love the points you're trying to make, but I know the makeup of the Detroit Lions offense that they're still going to look to par regardless of whether Ben Johnson is there or not because of what they have. What about defense? They lost AG too, though.

Ooh, that's nice. They still got Brian Branch. They still got Aiden Hutchinson. He's back. Yeah, he's back. It's one, they got one more dog over there. Territ Arnold.

Are you talking about Carrie Joseph? Yes, the safety. Carrie Joseph. Hell, he had what? 10, 10, 10, 9. Interceptions? Terry and Arnold. He got to do, he got to keep his hands to himself.

Why was there to get rid of say? He just had, yeah, that's it. That's it. I think they're going to be right on both sides of the ball. I know what thing. They're going to put some point on myself. Yeah, it's always, sometimes you have a, like, it takes you, sometimes it takes a team a year to adjust.

Yeah, right. Because Ben has been there so long. I mean, he's been there, what, four or five years? I mean, that's the only person that Jerry Golf has had in his ear since he's been in Detroit. A.G. He's been to D.C. for what? Three years there. So it's got, it's very good.

They're an extremely talented ball club. They're one of the favorites, along with the Eagles. The Eagles, Detroit, the Packers, the Niners, you know, Tampa. Hey, hold on. I got a question, huh? You just said the Niners. Do you think the Niners still going to look the same? No, Debo.

They got Robert Salab. Debo didn't give him anything last year, Ocho. He didn't give him anything last year. but here's the thing they also get let's just say they get a healthy Christian McCaffrey back ooh

now it's going to be interesting to see how healthy Brandon Ayuk is and how soon because sometimes Ocho is the year after the following year not the season

right after the surgery is the year after right so we'll see how soon but you know they stay they still got an outstanding

offensive line. Big Trent, let's see how healthy he is. Can he get back to being Trent Williams? Kittle is still a top tight end in the league. Absolutely. Purdy. Now, they did lose some guys,

Drey Greenlaw, Ward. They lost some guys, Hefanga. They've lost some guys on the defensive side. But Robert Sala is back. That defense wasn't the same. Without Robert Sala. on. Hey, did they ever fix

receiver Joanne Jennings? No, I haven't heard anything else about it. I haven't heard anything else about it. Yeah, he's nice. For the work he put in and then stepping up when Iyuk went down and when Debo was hurt

and he made some really good plays and made sure they didn't miss a beat offensive. I hope they wore him before the season starts. Yeah, it's kind of, also kind of like the situation that Cam Hayward is in. Because remember they tore up Cam Hayward, game a two-year deal, and then, you know,

he played well and said, well, I can't see myself playing on this number because because other guys, he saw other defensive players get pay raises. Sometimes the worst thing you can do is base your worth on what somebody else got.

Ooh. That's a good thing. I like that. I don't know. They used to do it. I don't know if they still did it when you were there. You remember they used to pass the thing around, the sheet around, all the receivers. They had all the highest pay because you were receivers,

so you saw what everybody else made. You like, he's making that. Plus, you got all the guys on your own team, plus every receiver, what they're making. Oh, man, man, that thing come out there. Hey, I get that thing. I'd be looking at something. My team is like, you make that?

And you giving us that? How about them boys tonight? Boy, y'all defense steals some trash. Wait a minute. Wait a minute now. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. Now, we look very bad on the first two's ride

that the commanders had the ball. They took their starters out. But we look better. We look better from that point on. Let's be optimistic. Let's be optimistic about the situation. Oh, Joe. Did you see how they ran down the field on y'all?

Yeah. I like that. I can tell you who blew the assignment. I can tell you who blew the Simon. Who blew the Simon? Like the mic, the mic, scraper over the top. He went underneath. He's scraping underneath.

You know, and you can't get there underneath. He tried to shoot the gabber. He tried to pull the Ray Lewis on him. What are we doing? What are we doing? And they did it twice. Did it twice. And the guy bounced right outside and he's gone.

We had a conversation last night. I said, Ocho, I want to see their backs. And it'll give us a better understanding why Brian Robinson, Jr. is on the trade block. Well, we see why he's on the trade block. saw those two bags from Washington. Now it makes sense. I don't know how much you could speak for yourself,

but it makes a lot of, a ton of sense to me. It does make sense, but obviously Brian Robinson, we've seen what he can do. And I just saw some reports. I obviously doing my little homework. Talking about he runs a little bit timid,

not hitting the hole and just stuff like that. I'm not sure if the injury history is probably a cause of that, but obviously they like the young bulls, especially Bill. He doesn't want to be called Jacob. His name Bill. Bill Bill uh hold on you got yeah yes Rodriguez no no the other one oh oh uh Koski because what's his full name the one that Jay that uh uh

jane daniels got the ball back for yeah yes uh yes sir yes sir you say you say you want to be called bill i'm calling bill okay yeah you look 30 rush attempts ocho for 185 yards and two touchdowns. I mean, you look at it. The two top guys, 17 rushes between the two of them for a hundred and eight yards. And y'all got, look, Lovu, everybody in the stadium, everybody at home knew the Bengals were not going to snap that ball at the 38-yard line on fourth and three, except you.

Yeah. And you jumped off sides. Everybody. Nobody. When they start doing all that moment. When they bring the guy outside, they bring him to the backfield. Then they sprint them out there. They're not running no play, bro.

They're trying to get you to jump off sides. And you did it. Yeah. I get, Ocho, we get New England, the Eagles last year. Remember on the goal line and he jumped off sides like five times, four, five times in a row. And the officials say, you know, if you keep doing this, we're just going to award them to score.

I get, okay, fine. They're going to score anyway. But in a situation like this, wait you like this these kind of plays to get your beat yeah guess what guess what happened ocho didn't they go right down the field and score touchdown yes we did yes we did let i want to talk about how good our offense look except that second series the second series that second series with joe burrow and in the and the in the number two's yeah yeah i don't know why he did that joe joe pull back all all the running and scraming and that like yeah throw that thing away

because you don't want to take any unnecessary hit necessary punishment yeah outside and he got bailed out again because O'Brown got beat and why just having a horse call him they're going to have to do a better job of protecting Joe but Ocho your offense has to look good because that's where all your money is so wherever your money is that's the side of that's the side of the football

you're really going to have to win on yeah most definitely most definitely in the Broncos when we play in the 90s TV myself John Zim Rod yeah so that's where the money was so that's where we had to be that's where we that's where we had

to beat. Yeah. So yeah, I thought your offense, you know, Joe was, I mean, Joe was what, 9 to 14, 62 yards. Jake Browning came in, but Jake Browning, you know, he plays well when asked and given the opportunity, Ocho. He plays well. 16 to 25, 159, two touchdowns. Desmond Ritter came in there through one pass. He was one and one for seven yards. But, and they were going down the field again and then Josh Johnson

threw a horrible interception. Yeah. Oh, Josh, boy, that's my dog there, man. Good to see Josh, good to see Josh still out there, man, working and working and working. Yeah, yeah. Hey, he doesn't, I mean, hey, he, he don't collect his own jerseys. And he ain't got no other player. He ain't got no other player's jersey.

You know, you trade jerseys, oh, hey, I just collect my own. He got my 14. Mm-hmm. I think he's, uh, he's been on 16 to the 32 teams, 16 to the 32. Damn! Yeah. Oh, yeah. I like it.

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and he's back, Tyrone Tracy Jr. What's up, bro? I know. What's good, man? How are you doing? Man, I'm doing great, man. How are you? I'm going to call you TT.

I'm going to call you TT because I feel like. I appreciate that, man. That's what they call you? You want to be called TT? T.T. Trace. You know, T.T.J. You know, you can call me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't call me Tracy. Don't call me Tracy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I want to do that. So, Tisi, I have a question. First off, my first question is, how would training camp going so far? How your legs holding up and have you hit that ball yet? Have you hit that training camp wall yet?

Yeah, I mean, nah. I think a lot, they've been taking care of us, to be honest. Like, he's been doing a good job making sure that, like, you know, we putting it in work, but then also, like, you know, giving us a bone, you know, here and there making sure, you know, you know, off days, we're taking care of, you know, the recovery aspect of everything. But I'm good, you know, camping good, everything's been good. The vibes in the locker room is high. Yeah, you got new faces in the locker room, so everything's been smooth.

Yeah, so, hey, hold on, hold on. Go ahead, don't you? Hey, I'm feeling good tonight, but I'm from the talk. But listen, I got one more question. Your rookie season. Yeah. Five touchdown, 900-some yards, on whatever, however many carries it was. I know you set goals for yourself.

You had two goals, but obviously as players going into a season, you have personal goals as well. What will your possible goals be if it's okay with you sharing it with us tonight? Yeah. Your personal goals for this season. Yeah, I mean, to be honest with you, so my personal goals, first and foremost, you've got to win. I feel like if you don't win, nothing else matters. So, but obviously, I want to do way better than I did last year. Last year was really just, you know, obviously my first year in the league,

welcome to the league, all that stuff. But now I feel more confident. I feel like, you know, I got the energy behind me, but I also got, you know, the trust behind me as well from the coaching staff and my teammates to go out there and play well. I want, you know, 15 hundred yards. I want 10 tuds. And like, I want to be, you know, one of the running backs that people talk about.

Like, this is the stuff I pray for, you know what I'm saying? I feel like, for me to say it in front of you guys, but then also like, you know, say it to myself each and every day. You know, that's something that you need to say, you know, the power of life and death live within the tongue. So I got to continue to speak life into my situation for each and every person I'm around. You got what I'm saying? So, yeah, that's how I'm moving right now.

I like that. Speaking into existence, we were, Ocho and I was just talking about practice fights when you have, you know, scrimmages, joint, joint, uh, practice scrimmages. Yeah. And, uh, there was a little scuffle yesterday. Well, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what pop off, man. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all been there.

Y'all, yeah, yeah, I can't get, you know, it's, it's, it's, the best against the best. You, you, you know what I'm saying? I had a good little run. He was just finishing the play, and my officer line didn't like that. Right. You know what I'm saying? So that's, that's, that's really what happened. You know, he threw me to the ground.

My office in line didn't like they had my back. Yeah, it really wasn't nothing. It wasn't nothing crazy, man. You know, we've seen worse. You know, y'all probably seen worse too. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Oh, go ahead, go ahead.

Did Brian Blake, because I, Ocho and I was just talking. Okay, when you have a joint practice, okay, coaches go overlook. Nine on seven, it's going to be solid thuds. We're not taking anybody to the ground, but they're going to be some thudding going on. Okay. And seven, A, A, and team, they're not going to take it to the ground, but it's going to be some collision.

So just expect it. So you go in with a mindset, okay, this is what it's going to be, X, Y, and Z. I'm good with it. I'm prepared. It's when you do something extra is what, because your coach had a conversation with our coach. And this is what they agreed to. Now, when you step outside of that scope, I got to check you. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. That's exactly what happened, to be honest with you. Yeah, they told me, like, Coach Dave came to me personally. He was like, yo, like, we know it's tag off, but just be prepared in between. the tackle box to hit you. So I'm like, okay, okay, cool. Like, you know, I'm cool with that.

Like, in between the tackle box, you know, that's 10 yards, you know what I'm saying? They're going to hit you. Okay, cool. But this happened, you know, I'm about to go score. You know, we 15 yards down the line of scrimmage. Like, I'm running. So that's really why, you know,

the scuffling started just because, like, that wasn't the rules. The rules is in between the line of scrimmage, boom, you get 15 yards. you can hit. But other than that, like, you know, let me finish my run. Because I'm just trying to do my job, you know what I'm saying, finish off a run. But, you know, like I said, man, we just, people have my bag and they didn't like that. That's all. Yeah, that, that's dope. Hey, Jackson, Jackson, Dart. I knew, I knew you was going there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I knew y'all was going to go there, but I knew one of y'all was going to go there. Listen, listen, I'm asking, my question is, is Malik neighbors having a very, very, very very, very good year last year. And I knew him, and Malik Neighbors had the talent to be in the top five conversation. We talk about receivers, no, in NFL. Yeah. How has Jackson Dart looking so far as far as being able to understand the offense, being

in commanding the offense, and understanding, like, this is a chance that I can be the future for the next decade for this team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. As a matter of fact, they would. There were three quarterbacks that looked really good because we didn't know what we were going to get from. Jackson Dart was one of them. The other, George Sanders, and there was one more. Jamers played. All four of them played.

Rosses started it. He kicked it off to Jamers, then Dart, and then the other guy finished it up. Yeah, but the small sympathized we saw from Jackson Dart, it looked good. He looked very calm. He looked very calm. Most of the time, most of the time,

rookie quarterbacks, when that pressure, those lights are on, they get happy feet, they're rattled. You know, their technique is like, they just they rush the ball but he looked really good no he did i mean to be honest with you it ain't really nothing crazy you know he did out there he do that stuff every day in practice to be honest with you like that's just how all the the good players that you're around the great players you're around they all do that stuff every single day so it's not like a surprise when they do it

on sundays or saturdays or whatever so like yeah i mean i feel like he's going he had the potential to be a really good quarterback right right that he's taking everything to his game to another level, to be honest. When he first got there, obviously, it's a lot of information going in, but now, like, you can see that he's settled down, like, and, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, he dialed in now. Like, you can see some of that college Jackson Dart come out of him

because of how calm and relax he is in the game. And, like, he's just out there hooping now. He ain't, he ain't thinking. He's just out there playing. That's the funny thing. when you get to a point regardless of what position you play, the receiver, running back, especially the quarterback position because you have so much on your plate and at the table

coming to the line of scrimmage. But when you know everything and what everybody's doing around you and you're comfortable and you add comfortability with confidence, it's a done deal. The game starts to slow down to you. And when the game starts to slow down to you, you start to look like some of the better quarterbacks in NFL that do it consistently, which is key, week to week.

I got one more question on before you go. I'm feeling good. Go ahead, man, I got questions for y'all, too. Fuck. Please tell me, what is it like to be around James' crazy-ass Winston in the locker room? I just need one good James Winston story, please. Hey, he's funny, man. Have y'all been around them?

Yeah, for short spurts in the Warlands, you know, but every day, no, that would be a joy. I ain't go a lot of like, what y'all see online and on Instagram and all these clips that y'all see. really like that like I promise you I promise you like I have a million stories like I'm only known a man for about five months now right right he does crazy stuff every

day like every day like he does something crazy like I'm I'll tell you this one story we had a UFC fighter come to our practice and she gave him some gloves like signed them and everything James comes in a locker room and starts like doing UFC

like kicks and fights with the gloves on like he's really trying to fight people in the locker room like yeah showing us how his kicks and everything like yeah i promise you like he is like i thought i was an outgoing person until like i met him like he's like literally one of one like he's a great great person he's like he's a very down-to-earth guy yeah cool to say that's dope yeah that's kind of where i was going because i wanted to know the difference between the the personality between russ and and because if you look at Adam, the personality are very, very different, but they're both very

religious men, seem to be very, approach their business, go about the work, the task at hand, and get the job done. What would you say it would be the biggest differences between Russ, personality, and James's personality? That's a good question.

I would probably say James goes about his business more fluid, I guess you can say. Russ is more like, not really strict but he just has a certain way of doing things right james is more like goofy like he is business but like he also understands that like you know you have to have fun while do it you have to have fun while doing it you know what i'm saying don't get me wrong russ has fun but like russ is like on a certain path like he he does stuff a certain way and like i don't know how

He's like, he's not strict, he's not strict, but did he expect things to look a certain way? Very disciplined, very structured. Yes. The funny thing about it, if I was a given analogy in comparison to the two, it's like watching Fresh Prince and watching Will Smith and watching Carlton. Yes. Yeah. I see Russell Wilson as Carlton in the sense, very serious, very business-oriented.

You know, he can have fun when necessary. And I see James Winston's at Will Smith, you know, and the character came comparison to the two. Yeah, don't get me wrong. They both are cool, like, regardless of the situation. But, like I said, Jamie is just more goofy. Like, he's there to, like, he's always going to make you laugh, make you feel good. Like, even when things are, like, very tense, he cracks the joke.

So, like, you feel good. Yeah, he breaks the ice. So, like, no one, you know, feels like, you know, the coaches are getting after you or whatever. Like, he makes sure to, like, you understand that, like, at the end of the day, coaches are going to get after you. but you got to move on. Like the next play is coming up. So you continue to move on.

And Russ is the same way. Like Russ is very, like I said, he's strict, but he has a certain way of doing things, very disciplined. Like first one in, last one out,

like every single day he has his routine of what he does. And that's just who Russ is. And if you've been around him, he handles himself like professional, like every single day. So, yeah,

they're both very good leader. Like you said, both very religious men. Like I, I really can't say enough good things about each of them. Yeah, that's dope. You guys finished dead last and red zone touchdown percentage. You scored the second fewest points in the red zone.

Ain't, that's a little harsh. I mean, dang. You guys finish last in red zone percent. Well, y'all finished second worst and poor scores. So, I mean, you weren't dead last. The other one you were laughing. All right, I get you. You know.

But okay, when you come back on next year, what are you going to do different to make sure you're not in this same spot again? Mm-hmm. Man, to be honest with you, when we get down there, we got to score. Three points is not enough. You can field goals get your beat. Yeah, in this league, three points ain't enough. We got to score tugs.

And I think that really starts with the O-line, obviously protecting the quarterback. Quarterback, you got to do your job, make better decisions. Get the ball to your playmakers, running back, receivers, tight ends. Get them to ball. Like, I think that's the easiest thing in the game. Get the ball to your playmaker. Let them go to work. and when your playmakers go to work

it makes the whole game easy where you come in at I didn't hear you mention Titi You didn't you say running ball Oh you want to run the ball okay we're going to run the ball okay we're going to run the ball okay we turn around and hand it to you Now T T T what's up you You got to put yourself in that description

as a playmaker because you know what you could be hell you could be the goddamn security blanket You could be you want to be one of the better running backs in the league right So you want to know when they game playing and they come into a game Well, God damn, we got to worry about two people

We got to worry about Malik neighbors Or we got to worry about TT You come in defenses You in the back field first or second down All right, we got to drop the safety down In the goddamn box They can't do that though They drop the safety down

We're going to throw it over the top Boom, beam So if Malik on all, boom Now we got to go too high Yeah, it's time to work Now you got to run them out of that too high exactly but that's what I'm saying like when you go you're the body of your playmakers it makes a lot of things easy space for offensive coordinator we got a lot of good dudes

and you're locked around out and they all want to win obviously you got the personal stuff that you want to do but like if you all just want to win like it makes a lot of stuff easy like because it's it's easier when you're winning when you're losing it's it's hard man like last year it really was it was hard last year just because like obviously you losing and we're trying to figure out why we're losing and then you know you got a whole much of stuff going on. So it was hard, but it's way easier when you win it. It's fun.

It's fun to be around people, fun of being around coaches, fun of me in the locker room, everything. So. Boy to be out in the about in the city. Yeah. Yeah. Being able to show you, especially listen, you're playing in the biggest market. You're playing the biggest market in the world.

And when you win it in that market, oh, the newspapers are a joy to watch. The headlines are joy to read. When you lose them, everything. is magnified. You don't want to show your face. You don't want to deal with the fans. It's in a market of that magnitude. So, man, I'm, listen, I'm, I'm hoping, I'm hoping y'all do very, very well. Hey, the division you guys are in, it ain't no slap. Oh, yeah. No, I ain't no slap. We ain't no slap either of. We ain't no slap either of. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm looking for right now. Okay. Okay.

Hey, T.T. Have you always, have you always been a running back? Did you play any other position? Yeah. I was going to say that earlier. Yeah, I was a receiver to my whole career, my whole college career. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I was, I turned, I turned a switch position in my last year because of Coach C. He's a, he's at the running back coach at Purdue. Okay. Yeah, he came in from Miami of Ohio. He looked at me and he was like, yeah, you're going to be a running back. And I know, I've known Coach C for like my entire life. Like, I know him since I was like 15 years So, but I wanted to be a receiver. I was watching, I was watching you, Ocho, you know what I'm saying, watching watching, watching Yofin.

I was watching Tavon Austin. Like, I was watching all these cats, you know, go crazy, you know, with the, I was about, what, five, I was about 5, 10, 180. You know, I was a slot receiver. And then once I got to college, I gained some weight, got to about 200 pounds. Right. And they was like, yeah, you're going to be a running back. Yeah. So everything, if you look at, hold on, let me say this.

Real quick, real quick. If you look at everything, like, from all my stat line, from my measurements, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was an average, I was an average receiver. But then, like, you switch it to running back, you know, now I'm running a, you know, 4-47. That's a fast running back. I got good hands. I can run good routes because I was a receiver. So, like, if you look at everything that, you know, you compare it to the league today, now that's God.

God really made all that happen like I went through all that struggle and that frustration and irritation and then next thing you know like all the blessings came out you know in 2025 it was it's crazy well listen now that you just said that boy you just woke me up a little bit

and I want you to understand the importance of not only playing receiver one point but now playing running back you understand that's two things you can do very well because now you don't got to come out on third down yeah you don't have to come out on third down so that puts you in the same category, you can get to this in year two and continue to improve on it.

But Christian McCaffrey, great runnerback. What else can you do out the backfield? Catch. Catch. Ledany and Tomlinson, out the backfield, and catch. No, so that makes your three-down back, and that adds value. You know, it happens when you add value in another dynamic to your game that they can't take away from you. It also adds dollars.

I have my money, yeah. Okay, stay with me now. The more you can do. Well, since you're a running back officialado now, give me your top five running backs of all time. Oh, of all time? All time. Of all time.

Okay. Herschel Walker. What you know by Big Dog? Come on now. I actually watch this film. I ain't going to allow. I actually watch this film. You were hell in college, man.

Oh, yeah. I'm going to go. gonna go with man I hang a lot of all this one really there's some dogs yeah there's some dogs you talk about running backs um Emmett smith got to put him in there is this like is like rankings or you just like oh no no it's your top five this is your ranking okay yeah it's your preference uh LT the Dan Thompson yeah I love I love his game I love how smooth he was.

And I'm going to put, I'm going to put Otis Anderson in there only because I've watched this film personally. And I've seen, obviously I play for the Giants, but I've also watched this film personally. I like the way he play. He's a big bruising back. He put that wind up on you. Mershon Lynch, Mishon Lynch.

Hey, B. Bees-mode. Yeah, Beast mode. You got to put Beastmole. that four, and then my last one. I'm going to go both, Bo, Big Bo. Jackson? Yeah. Okay, okay. That's a good. That's five or six. I think he might

added one. I added one. I think you did. No, I don't think I did. I don't think. That was five, huh? He can't, you know, he's getting old. He can't, I don't know. Nah. You had, you had Hersia Walker. You had Emmett Smith, Lladenian Thomason, Who else he had? Bowie Sanderson. And Bo Jackson. And Bo Jackson.

That's fine. You're right. You got bad. Oh, man. You just, you just named guys that I saw and you did see. Yeah. I was surprised. I thought you would go a little bit more modern.

You left, man, Poe Barry. Man, I ain't never seen somebody leave Barry Sanders off the list. Nah, I ain't going to go about so. So I was going to put Barry and I put Emin in there. But I go, that just made me personal. Personally, this is my personal person. Yeah, that's your list. Personal preference.

As a matter of fact, you know who my favorite running backs are? All the time. It's not the favorites, and I'm not talking about all the time. I'm talking about running styles. I like running backs in general, but I like runners that are very smooth with no herky jerky movements. It just, they get the ball, and they just glide as they run.

Arienne Foster. Yeah, you had, hey, what about Marshall Lynch? Is he a running back? Oh, that was right. A young man that can't remember. Damn, how do you remember your plays? I did, I did say that. I did say that.

You did say that, yeah. I did say that. Who told you? I know you got a wristband by the quarterback. Your producer told you that. No. Hey, oh, Joe, I had never see the running back like the quarterback like, oh, okay, that's the play we run it right there. No, 14.

Okay, that's me. Hey, I ain't, I ain't get my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, style, running style. Okay, four. I'm going with Eric, Eric Dick is the first. Okay. It's pretty, just pretty. Ari and Foster.

Okay. I know you've seen Aryan Foster run. Yeah. They're them priest homes. The priest. Priest's home and Amon Green. That's a new one. The priest's green.

That's a new one. Hey, um, them dudes ran so smooth and it's like they was gliding. And like, you know how you see some running back? He's like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, you know. Yeah, strong. They run strong. Yeah, strong, dog.

Them four out his name right there. Man, it was beautiful. I play with Preach one year His last year in Baltimore I play with the priest Yeah man Amon Green too Oh my goodness

You name you know in that West Coast system You're in downhill And the West Coast system If you look at the back Aryan Foster He was in the West Coast system You look at those guys like that Terrell Davis

It's one cut down here It ain't a whole lot Hey ain't a whole lot of dancing Moving yeah Hey say that for Friday night When you're at the club But come Sunday when you're on the field Ain't no dancing.

Get your ass down here. Right, right. So what can we expect from T.T. So you said 1,500, 10 tubs. Pro Bowl? I mean, hey, ain't the Pro Bowl like a fan vote? Is that my hope? It's fans, coaches, and players.

Isn't that a fan vote? The fans vote count the most. I think it's 50% and then players and coaches count. I'm just asking, you know, you can get all these accolades and stuff. But, like, you know, I feel like that's a fan vote. I think once you crack, once you crack it one time, and especially for you, it would be much easier because of the market you play in. You know, the product is, product sells itself based on where you're playing.

So if you even get close to the numbers that you're talking about getting as far as your goals for this season, you would definitely make it. And once you're in, most of the time, they think, oh, it's a, it's a popular vote regardless of whether the fans pick it or not. Yeah. Consistently go if you maintain the weekend from a, from a stats perspective.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. But yeah, that's definitely on my list for sure. Where can the chat find you on social media? Where are you on eggs? Where are you on IG? Oh, sure. On X or Twitter X, it was just Tyrone and Tracy and then on Instagram

I am underscore TTXI shoot both of y'all I need y'all to follow me too shoot hey wait

I got one more question too before you go how do you feel about your mad rating and do I need to change anything I think

I think I meant like a I think I'm at 79 I think what a 79 yeah yeah I think I'm not I'm not

positive but I think In your rookie year, you might have been a 79. Based on what you did last year, I'm sure it was going up further than the 79. So if it's not hired in a 79, I need to contact you as what I'm hearing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just let me know. Just let me know. No, we'll contact us after the first month of the season.

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