Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 1 Part 2: Micah's Packers DEBUT, & Vintage Aaron Rodgers!

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the BEST highlights of NFL Week 1 on Nightcap! The guys react to Micah Parsons making a DOMINANT debut with the Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers looking like his vintage MVP self from a decade ago and much more! 0:00 - Dolphins looked HORRIBLE vs Colts10:07 - Lions Disappoint VS Packers20:34 - Commanders DOMINATE Giants33:58 - Aaron Rodgers revenge game vs Jets45:39 - Vikings COMEBACK on Bears (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Speaking of awful, offensive performances, the Colts beat the Dolphins, 33 to 8. To a completed 14 or 23, 114 yards, and a touchdown. but through two interceptions, lost a fumble, his second multi-turnover game and his past three starts. To a QB, a rating was a pass-a rating with 51.7 was the lower business career in a game that he did not leave early.

Today, marked the fewest passing yards in such a game since week 18 of 2021. Ocho, he looked awful. Yeah, I watched the game. I had the, I had the Dolphins game on, nice and big up there in the sports book. And I expected more. I expected more from the Dolphins in general.

I see the direction in which they are going, going young, letting a Jalen Ramsey go. Obviously, Mika Fitzpatrick being there, being a lone veteran back there, and that's secondary. We got to do something. We got to do something at the quarterback position and finding a way where we can have some type of

consistency you give us a chance oh give us a consistency to give us the chance um we we go oh 16 oh 17 how many games it is 17 17 um we go oh and 17 man playing like we play today oh yeah and uh hold on let me i'm trying to find this well y'all was terrible i was like oh my gosh yeah it was bad it was bad it was bad and i didn't expect daniel jones to look like he look, I didn't expect Daniel Jones to look like he looked. Man, they had, they had the thing up there. They said, Daniel Jones looked like Peyton Manning and Russell Wilson looked like Daniel Jones.

Man, y'all, they were terrible. Oh, here it is right here, don't you? Hey. I mean, I think it was the first time they had scored on three consecutive of possessions since Peyton Manning in 2006. Yeah, man. Okay, so, yeah, they started, they started, oh, they started the game.

Oh, they scored, they kicked a field goal. They scored a touchdown. Score the touchdown. Kick the field goal. Score the touch, uh, kicked another field goal. I mean, damn, hold on. So they got one, two, three, four, five, six. They scored on six of their first six possessions.

Yeah. Yeah. And then listen. Do it look, too look bad, don't you? And then, and then, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, he was frustrated. Yeah. He's like, it's tough, man. It's tough.

It's tough. But listen, we're doing over and those. You think, you think if things continue to go like this? We already had this conversation this summer. You told me they would trade wreak. Hey, if things continue to go like this, being that they're going, they're going younger. As you can see, letting Jalen go, they're resetting, they're rebuilding. There could be a chance.

there are many, many suitors that can use Tyreek. Many of the best in the game. Don't be fool because things aren't going to write collectively as a cohesive offense over there with the dolphins. Chad, y'all remember me and Ocho had this conversation and he laughed at me and talked about

what you talk about? Yeah, because I expected them to look completely different as opposed to what I saw today. Now, there's a chance they can bounce back. There's a chance to get bounced back after today's performance because that was, oh my... They don't look good defensively, though, Ocho.

I mean, our identity was never our defense anyway. It was an orphan. Okay, so you're offensively. You got sack three times, you threw two picks and you fumble. So what's your identity now? You probably got bags in your face because you don't want nobody to know who you are. Mm-mm.

Mm-mm. Hey, that was bad, boy. That was bad. Yes. But all you can do. All you could do. go back to the drawing table you go in there Monday you watch film you take Tuesday off go hit the cold tub

hit the hot tub and you get back to work Wednesday but who the do the Dolphins got because I'm sure whoever the next game is it's a winnable game game

I don't know who they got Chad who the Dolphins got next his QB rating was 2.7 God damn yeah that's real

that ain't even a good that that's a good that's a C yeah I got the past oh okay we good we good we good we good you do realize hey Al Landra had two and a half sacks today I don't know they might get y'all low chole no we good listen the Raiders the Raiders just beat the past today the Raiden beat the past today Gino was out their goddamn dealing and if we're going to have a rebound game to get that bad taste at our mouth against the Colts, a game that obviously you would think we should have won because Danny Dynes was dealing today. He was dealing.

Jonathan Taylor was doing this thing as well. I think we beat the Patriots. You beat the Patriots. And, oh, hold on. They playing in Miami? Yes. Oh, man, we got this. We got this.

We good. We good. Y'all not good, Ocho. We, you, it's week one. It's week one. I don't care if y'all play like this. week 10, y'all look bad. Did you look bad?

Yes or no? Yeah, we look bad. I'm just being honest. But, you know, this is the NFL now. You know what? You know how one week you look bad? The next week, well, where the hell this comes from? It happens.

It's possible. It is. It is. But I think the thing is that's concerning for me, Ocho, is your quarterback has to play well. He has to stay healthy. And it's like, it is like now, Ocho, anytime he get hit, the ball come out. Yeah. You got you know, Ocho

He got the ball out here You got to have that ball You got to have two hands on that ball Just in case Because you can't see everything around you Anytime you in that pocket You got to be here You got to be

That clock, that time That clock has to go off on your head And understanding people rushing Daniel Jones was 22 or 29 272 and a touchdown Ooh Hey that's nasty work right there That's good work, too.

Yes. Good work. And that's, look, some, we don't need, some, we don't need you to be John Elway or Peyton Manning. Yeah. Just don't, just don't turn it over. Right. That's it. Just give us a chance.

Give us a chance. That's all we ask of you. Give us a chance. If you give them a chance, they got, the defense is good. Yeah. You know, they got Frank. Uh, uh, they got some guys over there. But, oof.

Damn, Dolphers, don't worry about it. Fends up, baby. Fins up, we good. We're going to be all right. We're going to be all right. What the Broncos look like today? They won. They barely won, but okay, go ahead.

Well, we put that bang on the tights. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Barely won. Yeah. Yeah. you concerned for your dolphins hell yeah after what I witnessed today

you just told me Chadd this man just told me it's one game now he told me it's one game but I'm trying to be optimistic I'm trying to be optimistic we cannot have that type of sure

and there has to be some type of promise when you watch a game when you watch the NFL game for four quarters you got to see something okay you know what that was something good that we can build off of

okay this is the area we need to work on uncle we need to work on every goddamn area everything we need to work on all three phases of game all defense locking tackling running throwing other than that y'all pretty good ocho hey y'all let indiana jones do a number on y'all they got y'all got y'all got the people calling that man

indiana jones yeah hey hey dandy dimes they listen danie d'i d'i no he'll he ain't dana d'am no cho they called indiana jones Okay, I got you. I take that. I say, what? Dana Gayness about a nickname after one game. Danny Manning. I say, oh, my goodness.

He was out there dealing. I'm going to be honest with you. He was out there dealing. He did a number on y'all, little, Joe. And he had two, I mean, he threw for, hold on, Dan Jones had a touchdown. He rushed for two touchdowns. The Colts scored on all seven of their offensive possessions in today's victory, becoming the first team since at least

1978 to score on every offense possession in a game. That's what Indiana Jones did to y'all. A defense, we need, we need, that, don't make me sad. Don't make me sad because I'm bidding good spirits, my Bengals won, and I'm hoping, I'm hoping. Matter of fact, I tell you, I'll tell you what.

Who would that? If the dolphins lose to the Patriots, this next upcoming week my allegiance to them I can't do it no more I can't be done I'm done I'm done I've been listen I've been going through this since

1984 since 1984 when I understood that I'm from Miami my home team is the Miami Dolphins I've been right and things ain't been right since okay God damn man

yeah y'all You all look bad, Ocho. Y'all. The Packers beat the Lions 2713. Joy Love threw a pair of touchdowns and Michael Parsons had a sack in its Green Bay debut. The Packer delivered an exceptional

defensive performance. After getting outscored 99 to 40 in the first half of the NFC North games last year, the Packers got points on their opening three possessions. Ocho, you like the Packers to be favored in the NFC North now? Man, heck, hell, yeah.

Boy, you see them boys? is A boy, you see Jordan Love Dealing, Golden, Hicks, Dubs, Reed. Right after the tie-in. John Jacob was trying, you know, get loose a little bit. You know, he wasn't able to go crazy. Defensively, the Packers look good, too. You know, they contain Jamir Gibbs. He didn't have a huge game.

They contain Montgomery. They didn't have a huge game. But I see a team, especially from an offender standpoint, like the Detroit Lions, they're going be all right. They're going to be all right. But what I'm seeing from the Packers, this early in the season is phenomenal. Joy and Love was wheeling and dealing all game long, all game long. They didn't have a ton of plays. No.

I mean, they had, I mean, 45 actual plays, so they might have had 50 total plays if you count the penalty stuff, Ocho. When you look at Jordan Love was 16 to 22, 188, 2 touchdowns, they only had 25 rush attempt for 78 yards, the Packers did a tremendous job getting after Jerry golf. He's not mobile. So we know where he's going to be. Right there.

He ain't going nowhere. It's going to be right there. So they didn't run the ball. Montgomery couldn't get anything going. Gibbs couldn't get anything going. You know, Gibbs had 10 reception for 31 yards, a long of seven.

That's not what you use. you get you need amin raw you need uh jameson you need jemot they need their uh jamo to stretch the field um arm and raw to to keep the chains moving and then we'll scream past you we'll swing it to one of the backs out of the back field uh leporter they need to get more out of him but they did hey green bay was swarming today it is hard they got after they got they got out they got out they got out them today right uh rshawn gary you talk we had him on the show ocho yeah i'm having a big year well he got somebody that he's going to fit the double and him. So he's going to get a lot of one-on-one.

Yeah, absolutely. And everybody don't got tackles like Penae Sewell and I think, who's the other tackle over there? I forgot who's on the left side. Is it Decker? Start left tackle for Detroit. Is it Taylor? Is it Taylor Decker?

Yeah. Everybody don't. got tackles like that. No. And then you got those guys, you got, hey, they can bring pressure from a lot of different areas. Van Ness, Wyatt. It looks good.

And you know what, you think, you talk about all the things that we used to see in Detroit doing, the Detroit offense is so explosive because they're able to establish the run. They're able to establish run, but not being able to establish run today and get those chunk plays six, seven yards here, having them forcing, forcing Detroit to maybe have to, I mean, forcing the Packers and maybe have to drop the States down in the box for a little help. So it eliminates everything else you want to do on the back end because you can't get nothing going on the front end. Yeah. You need to establish to run, Ocho, for the simple fact,

I don't have a mobile quarterback. Right. Bingo. I don't have a mobile quarterback. So if the play break down, see, here's the thing. A lot of these quarterbacks, you need now moving forward, what you're starting to see, you need guys at the quarterback position that can get off script. So if I call something, even if I don't call the perfect play, he can get me out of that play with his legs. He can get me out of there and buy me time? Because a lot of times, can a guy get off sheet? Can a guy get away from the play that you call and make something out of it?

So if I just give you disingredients, can you make something tasty with the ingredients that I gave you? Or can you just like, man, I have no word. by this. I got something better. Hey, listen. That's not what Jerry Galfield. We know who and what Jerry Galfield. He can throw the ball, Locho. Yeah. But he ain't making no plays that's off script. Yeah. I mean, listen, they're a handful of

quarterbacks on where a coach can call to play. And he sees something completely different and he can make it out of nothing. Yes. Call the right defense. But damn, now we're stuck. Yes. I've used my legs. making something out of nothing.

There are very few that can do it. True. Detroit's offense failed to score touchdown through three quarters, which hadn't happened since 2023, week seven at Baltimore. And that was my concern,

Ocho. Okay, you got the same guy, but they're not Ben Johnson. The guy that's calling plays now, he didn't go audition for a head coaching job. Right.

He's never been, he's never auditioned, he's never been a head coach before. He's never been an offensive coordinator before. Right, right. So you're asking someone, you put someone a position. And I'm not saying that he can't be good or he won't be good in the future.

But I'm saying it's going to, you got to have some growing pains. I mean, I've never seen a kid be able to just all of a sudden grow from walking. I mean, go from crawling to walking without falling and busting his butt or her butt or hitting his head on something. That's just a part. That's just a part of walking. Right. So a part of calling plays when you've never done it is to go through trial and error, to go through growing pains. And they're going to have some of these in Detroit, Ocho. They are. you lost both you both your D.C. and your O.C.

It's going to be some growing pains. Yeah. It's going to be some growing pains. And do I think they'll figure it out? Yeah, I do. I think they'll figure it out. But it's not going to be as smooth and as seamless as it has been in the last couple of years.

That's for sure. Right. But I thought Green Bay defensively, defensively. That's what, look, because I agree with you, Ocho, they can run the football. They got, look, they got receivers that I don't look at any of these guys,

like, oh, man, I'm just, oh, I ain't looking at none of these guys like I look at a chase, like I look at a jetter. Right. Well, they can hurt you. They can. And there is one, if he's all that he's been advertised to be in Matthew Golden, he's supposed to be similar to that, which is why they got him in the, in the first round.

Right. He's a 4-2 guy. We weren't able to see that for two today. He did make some plays, but I'm excited to see what they do with him going forward. Jayne Reed, nice. Hicks, all nice. What scares you about him, Ocho,

is that because from week to week, you don't know. See, you set your game playing, you're like, okay, we got to take this guy away. We got to take chase away. We got to take Jetta away. We got to take CD away. There are certain guys you're going to the game. Who are you trying to take away?

You don't know. You don't. You never know who's a guy. You never do whom got it varies with them. Week to week it varies. Because there's not a whole lot of difference between Dobbs, Reed, Wicks. There ain't a whole lot of difference, Ocho. Right.

They're all about to, you know. And then, Kristen, he's not there. He's your speed merchant. He just can't stay healthy. He's phenomenal. I like him a lot, but he just can't stay healthy. Yeah, but he won't be back, what, until later in the season, huh? I mean, way, way back, because he tore his skill.

Mm-hmm. And, you know, he had a, when you're normally guys that have that kind of speed, they normally have, they bound, they wound tight. So they normally have hamstring issues. Right. He's battled a lot of hamstring issues. Yes, sir. But I did like what I saw from Green Bay offensively,

even though they didn't do it, they didn't have a whole lot of plays. The stats don't jump off at you. They probably had, what, 260 yards. But you only gave up 13 points, and they gave up that on a spectacular catch. The guy caught the ball one hand over outstretched. I can live with that. But Green Bay defensively, those guys were hunting today.

It looked good. They were hunting today, and that's what you're going to need. You know, boy, I'm already chopping at the bed I want to see week four Wait week four Dallas

About Dallas in the Packers Green Bay and Green Bay goes Hey Wait I'm telling you Dallas They're playing in Dallas They're playing in Dallas Hey let's go to the game

We can't I ain't going to the game You can go No I'm asking you Let's go to the game So I mean We can live stream the whole game Me and you sitting there watching the game

chilling in the crowd And it stands Like that's that's you know No like a live broadcast uncle nocho live it pack i ain't trying to do i ain't trying to do five hours of tv it just nah i'm telling you um man ash man told unc man uh it's uh it's uh it's uh i'm sure i'm sure they got some some stuff drawn up for him to try to you know try to but micha gonna be mica gonna be coming he believes he believes there's not anybody on the defensive on the

offensive on the offensive line that can block him absolutely not Hell, there ain't nobody on any defensive line that can actually block them on any other 31 teams. So he's going to be chomping, chomping at the bit. I'm excited to see that game. But they look good today. Not just Micah, but the Packers' defense. Defense in general.

Quay Walker, Wyatt, Sean Gary, all those guys looked extremely well. They were getting after them. And it's easy to get, look, when you become one-dimensional, that's why everybody wants to try to establish some resemblance of a run game. Once you become one dimensional and those guys like, okay, we're going to play the run

on the way to the quarterback? It's a wrap. The commanders beat the Giants 216. New York office did not look competitive with Russell running it. I was checking back and forth in this game. It seemed like every time I turn in, it was putting the ball.

Russ was pressured on 16 of its 45 dropbacks, 35%, and handled that pressure quite poorly. He was 2 of 12, 26 yards, sacked twice when pressured. New York, It is 231 yards of total offense, average 3.2 yards per rush, stumbled twice into the red zone. When asked if he would consider starting Jackson Dart, excuse me, Dart next week, Dayball said, we're going to get home and look at our game.

When asked if Wilson would start against the Cowboys, Dayball was equally non-committal. We're talking about after every game. I've got confidence in Russ. We'll go back, evaluate the tape. This game isn't on Russell Wilson. It's not a Russell Wilson. Let's make that clear. I have confidence in Russ.

We have to do a better job all the way around. Now, it was reported that, and like I said, maybe I didn't stay long enough to see Dart get any snaps. Did he get any snaps in this game? Ocho, did you watch? I was stuck. I had all the games on at one time at the sports book, so I'm not sure at what point where Jackson Dart might have come in.

When I was watching, I was watching Russell Wilson, most of the time he was running. No, he didn't come in. Okay, okay. There were reports that he was supposed to have a package. They would have a package of two for Jackson Dart. But Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson was 17 to 37, 168, sat twice under 26 quarterback rating. They had 20, they had, what, 74 rush yards on 23 rush attempt. Go ahead, don't you know, I'm going to say that goddamn defense aligned, but they had rush running for his life.

every time back to even throw a ball the passing lanes was gone because everybody in his face everybody was in his face most of the time

most of the game every time I looked up I look at the TV to the left I'm like well god damn Russ every time I look up you're getting hit

you're getting sacked you're running for your life there's certain things you can't put on the quarterback regardless of who you put in there you have Jackson Dart had to deal with that but what I saw today

man I don't think anything would have been any different because he would have been running for his life. True. Washington ran the football extremely well today, 32 rush attempts, 220 yards. Obviously, sometimes, you know, when you played,

obviously when I played, when Carson would get plays, when plays would come in, one play, but he has a freedom to be able to change the play based on what he sees. Right. Whether it's a run play,

if it's toss right, but you know it, you know, we can go dive left based on, based on defense, based on just on what I see with my own eyes, I have the experience.

I wonder if Russell has, has their freedom to do so. Or if a play comes in, he actually has to stick exactly with what it's called because based on the play calling from what I saw today, it's like it's hindering,

is hearing and Russ from being able to do some of the things that he does well. Well, I'm not so sure he had that ability. He probably hadn't had that. I don't know if he ever had it in Seattle,

maybe later in Seattle. He definitely didn't have it with Sean Peyton. Oh, no. And I'm not so sure he had it last year. with Arthur Smith. So the likelihood of him coming in there

and having that kind of control now, Ocho, doesn't seem likely, but hey, they just need to play better. We're not going to put all this on Russ, although he was less than 50% completion percentage. And then neighbors, it seemed like, I don't know what that was about. What the neighbors and Debaugh was trying to get him

to go back in the game, he was talking to him, trying to get, but neighbors seemed like he was like, man, I'm done with this. Yeah, he frustrated. He frustrated. Listen, players like that, I say this with A.J. Brown, too. When the Eagles played, having to wait all the way to the third quarter, nine minutes in the third quarter to even touch the ball, you have a player that is special as Malik neighbors, you get him the ball early. It don't have to be nothing crazy.

Throw him a little smoke route, throw him a screen route, give him reverse. Let him feel like he's involved in the game instead of out there getting all that goddamn cardio. get it to him early. Yeah. And you'll have him late. All game. That's what that's what you should do. Yeah.

What you should do and what they actually do is not always the case. But you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right, Ocho, is that when you're dealing with these, these number one receivers, you got to give them something early in the first quarter. Yeah. I mean, just to be, ain't nobody asking, you know, to ask Jordan or to ask. I ask Steph Curry to ask one of these great players, look, we don't want you to take a shot until the third quarter. No, now just you do, hey, everything, just run around out here, Steph.

You just run around off these picks and do all this stuff and we're going to run, you know, hey, all that we're going to do, but don't take no shot to the third quarter. As a matter of fact, we ain't going to let you take no shot to the fourth quarter and see how that work out. But y'all want these receivers to get out there and run and just like just run and just run and they don't get no action. Don't get the ball thrown no way. and then come fourth quarter, hey, here we come. Come to do what? Yeah, mentally united.

No, you're not. It's hard. It's a struggle. It's a struggle. So we'll see what happened. They got the Cowboys, the Cowboys like, hey, we let one slip away last week. We ain't about to let one slip away this week. Cowboys might drop, I know it's a division game, Mocho.

Yeah. Cowboys might try to drop 50 on the Giants. 50? Mm-hmm. Damn. Yep, I'm trying to. Hey, what was, what was, what was, uh,

neighbor's numbers today, on? Uh, he had five for 71 on 12 targets. Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's not bad. Wondell Robinson had, uh, six and 55 on eight targets. That's not bad. That's not bad. I mean, you know, a little, a little slow day at the office. Not, not what you like.

I mean, hey, ain't nobody go crazy at the receiver position, but Zay Flowers. Yeah, Zay was only one. They were, hey, Zay be killing that slot, boy. Oh, he'd be killing that slot. And it's the same route over and over. They either, either that shallow or that deep over. yeah oh yeah that's that's the thing yeah because you got to honor because they hold because Lamar stick it in there you think Henry so you hold just for a second and by the time you realize

that he's already past the actress yeah yeah yeah what you think you think you think there's some there's some tread on the tires with Russ me personally Ocho I don't think he can I don't think he's going to start the whole year you know you and I we had a bet over under eight games I think it's going to be under eight games and Jackson Darts going to be in there. I do. I think, honestly, based on what he has around him is all going to come down to his offensive line. If you give us time, you give us time to be able to process and allow him to make the decisions

with the ball, I think he's going to be all right. You think so? If they can get a running game going, take some of the pressure off of Russ as well, which obviously helps with the past game. I think they're going to be all right. but so many different factors have to have to go right for us to be able to succeed because he's not the Russ of old. He's not the Russell Wilson with the Seattle Seahawks that at one point he can make

something out of nothing. As you get older, you need more help from those that are around you. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure the New York Giant team is built with the right personnel where he can be able to succeed like that. Yeah. It's a lot of Russ...

was outside, was off script. Yes. Improvisation, you know, Russ was a magician with the ball. Yeah. Pump faking and flicking the ball over guys and finding ways. He doesn't have that athleticism anymore. Like you said,

I think in order for him to be at his absolute best, things have to be perfect. And you know the likelihood of things being perfect more times than not, it ain't going to happen. It's not. So you say eight games, you think Jackson D. Yeah, I think over under eight games and Jackson Dard will be in there. Damn.

I mean, Ocho, I mean, you got to think about it. This is a third team in three years. Yeah. Because, yeah, he went from Broncos to the Steelers, Steelers to the Giants. Man, Ocho, you know when you start bouncing around like that, Ocho, when you start bouncing around like that, you know how to see you. On the back end, yeah, on the back end, yeah, on the back end that, that, that, that, that, that, That's what normally happens. But obviously, he's on one-year deals when he's with the Steelers.

When he came in, obviously he was injured. Justin Fields took over. We did really well. Well, hell, when Russell Wilson did get the opportunity to get back in there after coming back from injury, he went on a five, six, what, seven game? They won like seven, yeah. Yeah, seven in a row. And then obviously the bottom fell out after that.

But damn, I don't know. I don't know. And plus the thing is, oh, Joe. They both know his job's on the line. Oh, that's right. How does that go look, Ocho? I draft the guy that I don't get to coach. Hold on.

So if I don't play Jackson Dart, there's a great chance I'm never going to coach him. Well, hell, if you do play Jackson Dart and things don't go, well, hell, you still ain't going to be able to coach him. But I got a year. I drafted him. I mean, that's like you, hey, you build a house and get a divorce and the wife living in it. You ain't even get to live in the house, Ocho. So I just think, I just think the thing is, is that they're going to turn the dart

sooner than later. Yeah. Because probably four or five games, don't you? You know, you look at your division. You'll see where Philly, you'll see what Washington, you'll see what Dallas is. You look around the league, like, oh, man, we already, we're out of this. Mm-hmm. We might be able to go ahead and start building towards the future.

Right. At some point in time, Mocho, I got to start hoarding a bottle of water and can tuna. Doomsday is here. I know. I don't want the fans out there in New York to overreact. It is week one.

I think we being a little too, we jump in the gun a little too much. Who the Giants got next on? Cowboys. Oh, shit. Shit. Oh, Joe, you do realize they took this man number one. They took Jackson Dart, number one, right?

Yeah. What did they take it number one for? To start. And you got a, and you got a jerk, what people would consider Russ now is a journeyman quarterback. Yes, sir. Yeah. Obviously, and you know, you know what?

With that journeyman, we talk about a Super Bowl winning journeyman who has good experience, who has good success in NFL. Joe Flacco, won a Super Bowl, and what's Super Bowl MVP? how do people look at it? What is he? Journey, man. Okay. But again,

Russell Wilson is starting for a reason. What better person for Jackson Dart to sit behind and learn the game from than someone has already accomplished what he has? I could be wrong, or you can throw caution to win and throw Jackson's daughter out there to the sharks. And what normally happens to young quarterback when you throw him out there to sharks

and they don't play well and they start losing confidence? All right. Well, if you guys, I mean, it's tough because I, I, and that's why I think it's going to be, I don't think it'll be in the next couple of weeks, but I think by week six, week seven, you kind of know. Right. And you got to, we just got to move forward. And once we make, once we make this decision on Joe, it ain't no turning back now.

You know, turn it back. Once you do that, ain't no turn it back. But that's, that's why I say it wouldn't happen. that soon. It wouldn't happen that soon because once they do make that decision, Jackson Dart is the quarterback for the foresee of future unless things just completely don't pan out, similar to that of Daniel Jones. Oh, so you have been on a road trip.

Look here. Okay, now, I'm going to drive. And once I drive, I ain't stopping. Right. So once we gas up, get everything you need, get water, get your, get your, get your, you know, get your goodies, whatever. Use the bathroom, all that. Yep.

Yeah, I'm with you. Because what, hey, I ain't stopping. Oh, show the Steelers went on the road. Beat the Jets, 3432. Aaron Rogers threw four touchdown passes. If I'm not mistaken, it's his first game with four touchdown passes and no interceptions since 2021. Aaron Rogers threw four touchdown passes in his Steelers debut.

Rogers, after the game, there were probably people in the organization that didn't think I could play anymore. So it was nice to remind those people that I still can. I'm just happy to be everybody associated with the Jets. Were you surprised how well Aaron Rogers looked today? Well, I wasn't surprised, obviously, based on the team he's at, where he is, what he has to work with offensively.

The Steelers, obviously, their identity is their defense, even though they looked okay because the goddamn Jets and Justin Fields, they were playing some ball today, boy. Yes. Hey, Justin Fields and the boy were playing some ball today, but I'm happy for Aaron. D.K. McCaff, they had very, very, very good chemistry.

Very good chemistry. He caused some good balls. And outside of that, I mean, they look really good. And this is what I really expected. For the Steelers to have a quarterback that is four-time MVP, Super Bowl winning quarterback, and putting the right pieces around him,

and all he has to do is, do us ass of them, and don't turn the ball over. Just don't turn the ball over, and you will always have a chance. And that's exactly what they had today. That's exactly what they had today. Let defense take everything. And again, what happened? It was a turnover.

Remember the fumble? Hey. Hey. Look, we know Aaron Rogers can have games like this. He looked like the old Aaron Rogers, not an old Aaron Rogers, the old Aaron Rogers. 22 or 30, 244, four touchdowns. Just got after him a little bit, got him sacked him four times. You did a great job of neutralizing the run only 50 yards on 20 carries.

Then you go to the other side, Justin Fields, played really well today, 16 to 22, 218, 1 touchdown. They had 182 rushing. But when you get a situation like that, you got to kill a net with a sledgehammer. Yes. You can't leave a team with these type quarterbacks. You can't let them hang around, though, Cho. they'll find a way to beat you.

Every time. You can't, when you get a team down and they got a great quarterback on that side of the football, Rogers can still beat you. Josh Allen can beat you. Oh, my homes, these guys, they can beat you. You better put them away when you get a chance.

But the funny thing... Because if you leave them hanging around on, Joe, okay. But the funny thing about it, when teams get in a situation where you can kill an ant with a sledgehammer, everything gets conservative. The play calling gets conservative because now I don't want

be responsible for the loss, as opposed to let's keep our foot on a pedal and just kill them right away. But no, every time, every single time, which is why I tweeted what I tweeted tonight, why the Ravens and Bills are playing. Every time, listen, it looks like a blowout, but for some reason, in every football game, the play calling, mistakes, they get conservative, things happen, fumbles, interception, and for some reason, the game always ends closer than would. it should be.

You know, you turn the ball over. You give the Packers a short field. And the next thing you know, the game is boom, boom. Yeah. Give Jalen Ramsey credit. You can't go low to Jailen now. You can't take out the lead blocker by taking out his knees. They won't allow you to do that on the defense side of football.

You used to could, but you can't do that anymore. But he says, okay, don't worry about it. makeup for it he did I make up for it he dropped the hammer on Gary Wilson I think

the thing is you gotta you gotta know that guy's over there Ocho yeah because what are they trying not to do

Ocho let you out of bounds so if they're not going to let you out of bounds what did that mean somebody's close to the sidelines

and keeping everything inside and so now her ram see him mm-hmm I'm about to

Hey, let me get some bowl barbecue sauce because I'm going to put some sauce on the ribs. That was it. That's what happened. That was a textbook tackle too now. Textbook. That was teach tape, teaching tape on how to tackle and not get no flag.

That was nice. That was an unbelievable play by an unbelievable player. but I thought Justin Fields showed great poise did a great job he's only sack once the tackle got beat really bad

he got beat really really quick and I think because I thought they had something on that play looking at it they had something if the tackle doesn't get beat so quick High Smith beats him clean

and Fields really doesn't even get a chance really gets a chance to do much of anything but I was impressed with Rogers I'm not going to sit here and tell you. I saw four touchdowns and no turnover, 22 or 30.

No, I knew they were going to try to establish the run. Right. But that's why you got a guy like Rogers, because if we can't run it, we feel comfortable if we can protect him. He can make plays. He can still make plays off his back foot. He still can roll out the pocket and throw with pinpoint accuracy. He still has those capability.

He's not as elusive as he once was. Hey, we're not the same people that at 30, we were at 25. We're not the same people at 35. We were at 30. Rodgers is, what, 40, 41 years of age? He's definitely not the same person, athletically, athletically as he was in his 30s. But his arm, his ability to change arm slots,

his ability to move on the run, they're throwing the run. Now, he don't have a foot speed he once dead, Ojo. He's not going to really beat you like he once could with his legs, but his arm is still dangerous. Yeah. His arm is still very, very dangerous.

I didn't see the four touchdowns. If somebody would have told me, could I see 244? Yeah. But I don't think either team is really happy. One team gave up 34. The other team gave up 32. Not if, hey, if I give up 32 and I win, I'm happy. But there are some concerning things that I saw.

But I thought, but if I think if you're Mike Tomlin, you're like, okay, I think we found our quarterback and you look at the receiver. You look at DK doing what he did. You look at Calvin Austin, the third. Frymuth had a big play. A scuronic catcher. He normally is special teams maven came from, I think he was at the Rams. That's where I remember him from.

I don't know if he came from their last year or a couple of years ago. But I remember him at the Rams as a special team maven. Caught a touchdown, recover the fumble. But I like what I saw from the Jets. There are some positives. Absolutely. There are some positives that you can take out of this. You're just like, man, we had it.

Yeah. But you give up 17 points, just like the Ravens, gave up 22 points. You gave up 17 points in the fourth quarter. Yeah. You can't. You're not going to win. You're not going to win very many games, giving up that kind of in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers, the Steelers play well.

Look, Steelers are 1 and 0 in that division, Cincinnati is 1 and 0, and you got Cleveland and Baltimore at the bottom of division at both 0 and 1. It's early one game in the season. One game does not make. a season, win, lose or draw. Definitely. But I definitely like teaching after a win, then I do a loss. Yes, sir.

Now, I might have your undivided attention more so after a loss than a win, but I like teaching after a win. So, Steelers, what you're thinking? How many wins? 10, 11? Steelers? 12, yeah. Ooh, that's a good one.

Just off the quarterback alone, if he can be consistent and not turn the ball over and show us vintage signs of old Aaron Rogers, old Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rogers, they could win more than that, especially if the defense carries him because the defense is their identity now. The defense is their identity. I got them winning more than 10, more than 10 easily. No, no, I'm saying if it all come down on your quarterback, if you look at the league, you look at the landscape of the league, league or the team that are always successful year in and year out, what's the competent nominate on what each one of those teams have. They have a competent quarterback that puts them in the best situations to win, week in and week out. And that's something that the Steelers have now, which is why Tomlin had no problem going to get Aaron Rogers. We don't need you to be

Aaron Rogers down there in goddamn Green Bay. We don't need that. If we can get flashes of brilliance every so often and you do what we ask of you and don't turn the ball over we can hand it all from time to time to take some of the pressure off for you DK make the plays Calvin Austin the third

you make your plays Friamuth how you say his last name Pryamuth yeah Friamu make your plays we're going to be fine let the defense do all the heavy lifting Yeah

I mean I like what I saw with DK did a great job of getting the ball in his hands he dropped one early and then he came back and made two spectacular plays turned on the after burners, like the guy out down the sideline.

I saw Calvin Austin catch a touchdown. He played well today. Frymooth, when given an opportunity, he did what he does. Scurronic, they slept on him, did the run the over route.

You know, Rogers liked to throw it up all outside the pocket. Yeah. They don't have a problem putting him on the move. He does a great job because if you roll him to the left,

he can open his hips up and still get to completion. A lot of right, a lot of the right-handed quarterbacks are left-handed quarterbacks that have to roll right or right-handed quarterback that got a roll left.

It's an awful lot to throw on the move because you've got to open your hips up, especially if it's not like a comeback where the guy, you know, you're rolling that way and you just throw it. But sometimes you've got to open your hips. And I think Rogers does that as good as anybody that's ever, ever played the game.

I like what I saw from the Pittsburgh Steelers. I like what I saw from the Steelers. I like Justin Fields. I like what I saw today. I can, if I'm AG, I'm going to say, saw an A. I know you're disappointed that we didn't win but there's no question in my mind

you showed a lot of improved but you showed a lot of growth today we can win a lot of, would you play it like you played today son we can win a lot of football games we can with a lot of football games so Steelers go to 1 and 0 Jets fall to 0 and 1, 34, 32 you know Rogers had something to prove you know hey hey you didn't want me you didn't think I can play

say I want to be there everybody that's associated, you know, he gave it a little bitty, hey, he's like, hey, y'all got something for me walking up the field today? He would, I think he's walking next to Cam Haywood. He's like, y'all, y'all, y'all got something for me? Mm-hmm. Y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all. So, but like I said, I think the Jets, that division, it's Buffalo's.

Yeah. It's Buffalo. Miami looked horrible on both sides of the ball, Ocho. Don't do that, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. No, they did that. I didn't do nothing. I didn't, man, I'm speechless, Ocho, because Minnesota was just going around,

I'm like, how long, Justin Jefferson before he throws his helmet up in the stands? Because they're not target him. JJ threw a horrible pick, you know, horrible pick six,

you know, that deep out, if you late and inside, he's got a reservation for six in the end zone. And the next thing you know, Minnesota has seized control of this ball game. I'm almost certain. The Chicago Bears spent $94 million, excuse me, on the offensive lineman.

Yeah. They got a new center. They got a new left guard. They got a new right tackle. Ocho, I couldn't tell. No. Caleb Williams was running for his life. If Caleb Williams is not as, if Caleb Williams with Jared golf, he's sacked ten times

tonight. Easily. He's running for his life. And I was like, hold on. I thought you and I both, because we talked about this, and Ocho, they approved the offensive line. They got Roma Dunezay. They got a DJ Moore.

They got Zakias. They drafted a tight. Got another tight end. They got cold command. Defense seemed to be flying around. And they got Ben Johnson calling plays. DA is Dennis Allen is the new D.C. I said, I like Chicago.

revamped offensive line. Oh, show the offensive line looked the same, if not worse, than what it did last year. Give Minnesota credit. I have to give J.J. McCarthy a lot of credit. He theoretically, he's not a rookie. But last year got hurt. his rookie season, but this is like his rookie season.

To throw a pick, a pick six on the road and not get down, Ocho, and to come back and throw two touchdown and to win this game in your first start, give J.J. McCarthy some credit. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, watching this game, I really thought I was, I thought at some point, I thought the bears were going to run away with this one. I did too. Caleb Williams looked like Houdini back there. Obviously, when being able to process, drop it back when things don't happen, one of the few quarterbacks. in the NFL that can make something out of nothing when things break down. He looked good, made some very good throws.

Obviously, once the pick six happened, once the pick six happened, and JJ, JJ left that out route inside. I was like, you know what? Yeah, at this point, this one's over. Yeah. His game is over. Oh, man, JJ kept on plugging. He did.

He kept on plugging. A play here, a play there. He also being a dual threat quarterback, being a, hey, both of them. both of them could move with the ball too. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, both them can move with the ball. And then before you know it, man, we got a ball game, baby. We got a ball game.

You're looking at, Ocho, you thought that out route, you got to be early and outside. Because if you, even if you late, it's going to be knocked down at worse. Yeah. No, it'll be knocked down at best. The worst thing that happened is a peak six going the other way. But if you late and inside, oh, yeah. mm-hmm and you and you got to have you got to have an arm you know most coaches

don't from the bar hash all the way out you got to have an arm so obviously j-j must got a gun on him for the coaches to be comfortable with him even throwing that ball but it's all about placement it's all like you you want to miss far rather than miss inside you a when he catch that ball ocho he out of bounds you catch it you get two feet down you out of bounds yes basically when you throw that when that joker plant that right foot that ball need to be in the air because he's running on the speed now he's not stopping so he's running a speed out yeah so when he hit so before he hit that ball got to be in there when he speed out when he 10 row to 12 yeah make he got to drop in his hands when his eyes turn back to look for the ball

that ball already got to be in there oh for sure he got that ball got to already be in there and he got the kiss, the eye line of the ball in flight. Not watching leaving your hand, because if it's leaving your hand. Oh, it's way too late, that guy. It's way too late. And you see, first of all, Ocho, the dude playing off. Yeah. So once he see now, he ran out and up, he cooked.

But you see how hard he drove on that, Ocho? So he knew, he knew, hey, once he, once he saw, uh, uh, uh, jetta put that foot in the dirt. Yeah, he goes out. You're running out. I'm driving this. And you got to trust it. because a lot of guys they have a tent I don't know what if it's an out and up and you know you know you might get there to knock it down he's like nah I'm gonna trust this if they got

an out and up coach oh well they got no this one that's what I mean I'm taking this one to the house but Minnesota I didn't see I didn't see no I saw no sounds of life because think about oh joy this like I said if the score was 17 to 6 yeah 17 to 6 and the next thing you know So Minnesota scored 21 unanswered. Chicago got a late touchdown, got a late touchdown to make it 27, 24. But I think Minnesota going on the road in a hostile environment, this is a division game, and they're doing it with a rookie quarterback. And for him to put up the stats that he did, look, it wasn't, you know, 13 or 20,

143. They ran the ball 26 times for a buck 20. But for him to go on the road in that environment, and to do when things do not. Because, Ocho, if he had got off to a great start, I totally understood them winning. But it got off to a shaky start. And for him to keep plugging away and keep plugging away,

it's quarterback coach is Josh McCown. I say within three years, Josh McCown is a head coach. Oh, Josh. What you're over under three years, Ocho, head coach? Yeah, probably, especially with quarterback success. Anytime you coach a Pacific position and that Pacific position continues to succeed on whatever team you're coaching.

Especially if it's a quarterback. Yeah, you're going to get your opportunity. Yeah. You're going to get your opportunity. He played a long time, you know, back up, made some plays. I mean, I think he played like 17, 18 years, don't you? Long time. Yeah, he played a long time.

But Minnesota, you got to give Minnesota credit, chat. Because like I said, I didn't see, I saw nothing that would make me believe that they had a chance to win this game, especially through the first three quarters. I saw nothing. I saw no life, especially offensively. Now, give the defense credit and the D.C., who the D.C., former coach of the Dolphins,

give him credit because he had those guys flying around. They're making plays. Van Grinkle and Hargrove, those guys, those guys were flying around tonight. That's one thing he can do. Now, he dialed up that defense. They get after you. He's about the Vikings.

Vikings, D.C. Yeah, Brian, Brian Flores. Flores, yes, yes, Flores. Oh, give him credit. He had those guys playing. Yeah. They were getting pressure with four guys. Occasionally they were bringing extra pressure.

But I thought Chicago would be better because they invested in what many thought was a weakness, which is their offensive line. Tuny is an all pro, a pro bowl player. They got Jackson from the Rams. I forget where the center came from. But they got it. And I'm like, damn, are y'all sure? Yeah. Did y'all forget how to block?

Did y'all forget how to pass that? Did you get out of the run block? I'm like, because this is a recap of what it was last year. Last night, basically. Hell, JJ McCarthy, he threw two TDs in less than what, three, four minutes? Yep, yep. Matter of fact, it's games like this, like what we saw last night, what we saw tonight, where people say, oh, man, 1760s, this game is over.

you know they go do something else go in the garage and come back in and the Vikings win the game oh man hell no this shit is rig man you know everything rig it's this is all it's all rig and listen it was surprising to me too but to actually

watch it unfold I'm like well god damn I see why people say that but then you think to yourself no it ain't read because I haven't been out there on that field and the momentum you know when the moment when the moment when the moment wait a moment you're a whole matter

way it doesn't matter if when you the that's what I try to explain to people ohcho yeah when you have the momentum you're going to have it because the momentum is going to swing you get it they get it you get it they get it how much separation can you put between you and the team when you have the momentum because they're going to get it back at some point absolutely and if you haven't put enough moment if you haven't put enough space separation they're going to come back and bite you well well you would think with that momentum you would think a 176 lead is enough is enough space to not lose the game, but you have JJ come together in that fourth quarter.

It's like, well, who the hell is? Well, if you think about the Ocho, that's really, that's not, I mean, 176, that's really a touchdown, a two-point conversion to the field goal. It's not like the Ravens last night. The Ravens were up 15 under five minutes to go. And so now, Ocho, you need a touchdown. You need two touchdowns and a two-point conversion

just to get even. Yeah. just to get even. So that was a little bit more formidable, especially, and it's still, like you said, it's the fourth quarter. But I thought that was a more of seemingly an insurmountable lead than what we saw tonight.

But considering you got a rookie who hadn't been doing much, look, no matter what you thought about Buffalo, they do have the reigning MVP. Yeah. They do have a guy that you know he can go crazy. We haven't seen anything from JJ McCarthy. that would make us think that the Minnesota had that in them other than pride other than this was the division rival and hey we know them they know us because guess what ben Johnson he was at he was at uh uh Detroit last year so offensively even though he's at another team Brian Flores already know what he's going to run because I've been coaching against this guy for the last two three years so I know what I know who and what he is the only thing changes the color of the uniforms now now uh O'Connell is going to have to go back

and fill out, looking at a DA and see what he ran when he was in New Orleans. You know, maybe pull out some tape when he was the head coach at the Raiders or old footage of when he was the D.C. at Denver. But for the most part, they know this

offense. They know Chicago's offense because Florida has been coaching against Ben Johnson for two to three years. But I was, I was very disappointed in what I saw from Chicago, Ojo. Offensibly. You think so? Yeah.

You got two number one. Okay, you got Roma Dunezay, number one pick. You got DJ board. You got Cole Commit. You got Zakias. You got Loveland. And you got the number one pick in the draft. And you rebuilt your offensive line.

You spent $94 million. 55 of it goes this year towards that offensive line. And the offensive line doesn't look any better. Yeah. You had Chicago. You said Chicago was your surprise team. I did. I did.

You did. So you should be surprised also. They look like this. To me, to me, I'm not, I'm throwing caution to win simply because it's week one. That's all.

That's all. And I've done that. You notice when it comes to the week one games. Yes. I haven't been due too crazy. The way the dolphins look, the chance of them actually looking that bad again. And back-to-back weeks, it's slim enough.

It's the NFL. So because this week one, I've given almost every team some grace. Now, we get down the road dunk and we in week three and we in week three or week four and stuff is looking like like what we saw tonight, allowing teams to come back from, you know, being down in the deficit like that and they come back and win in the fourth quarter. What happened the other night with Baltimore, with the deal scoring 16 points in a four-minute span in an NFL game in one quarter. We know they scored 20.

They scored 22 points in the fourth quarter. They scored 28 in the second half. Yeah. Hey, we talk about in real life, not a video game, real life. Yeah. Josh had like 240-something passing yards, if I'm not mistaken, in the fourth quarter alone. He was crazy. But again, week one, I'm going to give the Bears really some grace watching Caleb Williams,

made some good throws, had to run for his life. He had to be Houdini. Yeah, man. Oh, my God. things happened. And I don't know, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe Tooney would, would be the, the captain. Left guard. I mean, yeah, he would be the, the leader of that, that offensive. Yeah. And I think Jonah Jackson, they got from the Rams. I think Delman or Dalman. I'm not sure. I, I'm just, I've just glanced at his name when it was on the back. Because it was, you know, you could see it.

And the next thing you know it was sideways, I couldn't see it because he was chasing somebody that was going by. But this is not This is not what Ben Johnson envisioned Like you said, it is the first game But I just thought I would see more I would see better from what I saw from the Chicago Bears But give Minnesota credit They go on the road basically with a rookie quarterback

And they get a very hard fought division A division win So they're tied with Green Bay I want to know what top the division And the Bears and the Lions are 0 and 1 They're at the bottom of the division. Oh. I'm Dan, he's Ty.

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