Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 10 Part 1: Matthew Stafford MVP Favorite + Kevin Stefanski is TRIPPING ... AGAIN

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

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a half a game behind the NFL. best record. Stafford against the 49ers was 2436, 280 passing yards, four touchdown. Stafford is the first quarterback in NFL history of four passing touchdowns, zero interceptions in three straight games. On the season, Stafford leads the NFL in passing touchdowns 25 and it's touchdown to interception ratio. What does he have? One interception now? It's also the best of the league. Stafford is number one, an MVP award. Also playing in the era with the leagues like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rock. Rogers. Only season he's ever received an MVP vote was 2023 when he finished eight of

10 players. And one year, he should have got some MVP votes because he threw for 5,000 yard. Huh? Three. Oh, he, so he got 25 touchdowns, Ocho, two interceptions. Golly. Hey, that, them Aaron Rogers numbers, boy. Thank you. Hey, them Aaron Rogers number. I know, I know Jonathan Taylor's playing well right now, but if he continues to put these type of numbers up well you know where that MVP going it's going to be right down there in LA hey this game was over early

this game was early it was 21 zip with 13 minutes left in the second quarter if you're playing mad and the game is over you got to pass the sticks it was over the turnover killed him I mean Juan Jennings

Mac Jones Mac Jones was 33 or 39 319, three touchdowns, one pick. This is not hindsight. I said the 49th should stay exactly where they are and took Mac Jones. You said stay right where you are and take Mac Jones. You don't have to give up that draft capital.

But that's a story to be told another day in time. George Kittle, nine catches 84 yards of the touchdown. Johnning, six catchers, 71 yards, a touchdown. Christian McCaffrey had eight catcher 66 yards. They didn't run the ball really well today. The Rams kind of got after them in the run game. But Matthew Stafford is dealing. When you got Puka and you got Devonte.

It was cooking, boy. Still rotting people up. They were cooking. Parkinson, tight-in, touchdown. Allen, touchdown. they look they're good the Rams are good and I tweeted though

are we sure are we certain the Rams and the Seahawks aren't the best two teams in football are we certain that's not the case because we saw the we saw Seattle Monday night oh no we saw them

with a Sunday night when they beat the brakes off the commanders and we know that and then they turn around and do it I mean they have 35 at one half and 35 and I mean 73 points and two halves. Is there anyone

that would want to argue the fact that they're not the two best teams regards to AFC or NFC? I mean, who would argue that fact? People might say the Patriots, somebody still might believe the lions. You know, you know. But based on what I've seen,

the consistency wise, I think for me those are, I think those are the two best teams for me. But Stafford, but for me, you know, Drake May, And I think Drake May is playing unbelievable. But his numbers aren't comparable. I mean, you go look at Stafford.

He's on place to throw. So he has eight games to go. So he's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions. How many yards does he have? So he's going to be over 4,000, over 4,500 yards. Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that a war for. Now, if Jonathan Taylor saves gold rush for 2,100 yards and 25 touchdowns, now I think it's going to be a very close race.

It's going to be a conversation. but you know how the NFL is you know how it is I think it would have to be an historical what's about the historical numbers 2100 to take it away from a quarterback yeah and the thing is I mean uh uh and because there he's he's putting these numbers out here because remember ocho the game against jacksville he had five touchdowns and uh and didn't have 200 yards passing so he's putting he's putting up these numbers and And he's not having to do a whole lot late. They're just running the football.

Kairn Williams, Korn, you know, 30 carries, a buck 26. Nice, smooth, easy. But, no, Matthew Stafford looks good. He's looking good as any point in time. He's ever looked. Rams going to be tough. I can't wait. When the Rams play Seattle again?

Rams in Seattle Oh, the Rams play Seattle next week, is that a Fox game or is it got to be That's what I'm saying I'm asking when do they play them That's next week And then in LA And then in December

That's a good game Next week you're going to be a game Is it a Sunday night? Is it a Monday? The afternoon here. One o'clock? Afternoon, late game. Okay, both of them. And then

on to Thursday in December. No, I like to see these guys fully, fully healthy. Oh, Joe, the Buccaneers lose to the Patriots by the score of 2823. Trayvion,

Henderson. Hey, that joke was right at saying, hey, y'all, can I score? Y'all won't we to score? What y'all want me to do? I've never seen anybody check with the coaches on the sideline running full speed to make sure it was okay. But he looking at his, it ain't his sideline right here.

He's looking way over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because most of the time, you know, if they want you to go down, everybody would be doing this. Yeah. He said, nah, don't in it. He saw the closest. Drake May was 16 to 31,

272 touchdowns, one of a reception. Trevion Henderson, 14 carries, a buck 47, and two long touchdowns. He had one his longer 69. That was the one he was looking, see what was really going on. He took another one to the house. Mack Thomas. Oh, barefoot, Mac, Mac, six catch him, a buck, oh, four. Williams, one catch, 72 yards.

House called, Stefan Diggs, I think it was fourth down. He ended up catching a touchdown, five catches, 46 yards. and a touchdown. A mecca, a buca, six catches 115 touchdown. KDOT, 9 for 82. Tenth Johnson, 42,

two touchdowns. They ran the ball, decent, 21 carries, a buck 13. Baker played a exceptional well again, 28, 43, 273, three touchdowns. Yeah, Drake. What does Drake made

numbers look like? Right, you mean? I mean, now you understand why Mr. Kraft had to make a decision, yes. Girard Mayo, I got your job, but this guy's just too good. I don't want anybody else to get him. You sometimes, you've got to make hard decisions sometimes. Listen, if I was grateful, I would have, I would have, I would have hope. I'm not sure how that, how they were released your beers.

I would have made sure to have Mayo part of that team. And part of the coach staff. Well, he got sacked. We know he got sacked at least five times in the Cleveland game because Miles Garrett got him all, got him five times. Ooh, that's a lot. In 10 games, he's been sacked 34 times. Shoot.

So he's on pace to get sacked over 60. We got 35 including today. So, man, he's on pace to get sacked 60 plus times. Listen, what was David Carr record? Are getting sacked when? Seventy. you don't want to be messing with that they'll break you they'll break you physically and mentally absolutely but that's a lot of hits on

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After the loss to the Jets, Gabriel has thrown 869 yards, seven touchdowns to interception in his rookie season. He led Cleveland to just one win with the game on October 19th against the Dolphins, and they are now 2 and 7 on the year. Ocho?

I just don't know how you're going to win games for checking the ball down. I just don't know how. I told you before. Listen, I love Dylan Gabriel. I love you to be able to do at Oregon. But against in the NFL, if you're not able to throw inside of the hashes, inside of the, I mean, outside of the numbers, if you can't make those throws like normal quarterbacks can do, you're not going to win games checking the ball down. You're just not.

Unless you have elite superior talent around you, you're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it. They don't have that. just not i mean dude he was what 17 for 32 177 he had two tis today and for the browns to have success the running game has to be on for the brown to have success the running game has to be slap ass on it just has to because that's the only way you're going to be able to fool teams is with play action low rPO and and stuff like that but just i at this point i don't know what's defense he's going to do. I think he's going to continue to die on this hill because they

truly do not want Shador to get in there and start. You lose a game in which the opposing quarterback goes 6-4-11, 54 yards, a touchdown and an interception. So you lose a game in which the opposing team did not have 200 yards of total offense. It's the NFL too now. Didn't mind you, this is the NFL. They didn't have 170 yards of total offense, and you lost. Yes, your special teams let you down.

You gave up a kick return for a touchdown, and you gave up a punt return for a touchdown. But this is not the first time that Justin has thrown for less than 100 yards. You did it early in the season. Ocho, let's be all the way real. Wait, wait, take it. time now i just don't see it ever working for justin fields you know i have a question yes can we

play devil's advocate and think about all the quarterbacks that were there and it didn't work for them but obviously they went somewhere else to the right situation and it worked a la sam darnel who was the number through who's the third pick in the draft who went to the jats and for some reason it just And what's it called with the double two pick in the draft? Wilson, Zach Wilson. Oh, yeah, bingo. So maybe it's just the Jets organization.

They haven't had a good competent quarterback since Broadway Joe. And you told me, you know, you told me, Joe wouldn't even that good. He got more interception than touchdown passing, but that's not here. We're not here to talk about that. Oh, Cho, Justin Fields had 54 yards passing. 42 of those yards came on a play. The Breeze Hall left a screen. So in other word

If we take that away He completed five passes For 12 y'all That doesn't even sound real honestly You heard me Even on their worst date Zach Wilson And

And And And Sam Donald didn't Look like this Hey Man I don't know

I don't know what's going Maybe so Ocho Maybe he has Maybe he needs to get out of there And go somewhere else two. Maybe, maybe, but it ain't going to be there. It ain't going to be there. But here's the thing, Ocho. We've seen him in Chicago. We've seen him other places. Listen, he was decent in, he was decent in Pittsburgh now. He was decent in pick. The only thing that happened, I think

they were four and two. They were four and two when Russell Wilson came back, if I'm not mistaken. He was playing extremely well. He was playing extremely well. But I was hoping, I was hoping, finally, Josephield gets his chance. He gets his team. Quarterback number one, you don't have to worry about anything except going out there and playing freely because you're not peaking anybody over your shoulder. Nobody's coming to take your spot. It's your, you are you, it's your team. Now it's your opportunity to show people what you can do. And it's just, I don't know. Um, I, I don't either. Like I said, hold up. Excuse me. Bless you. Uh, Cleveland. Why ass laugh

Where ass laughing at? Oh, Lord. What happened? Boy, Cleveland. It's bad, huh? Yeah, I mean, look, Cleveland ain't trying to win. We got, look, let's stop. We got to stop expecting Shadour

because Shadour's going to come in there and try to win. They don't want to win. They want to get draft picks. They're going to redo this thing on you. Yeah, I mean. they're going to redo this day. And would I be surprised after this season? If Miles Garrett said, yeah, yeah, I gave you all the chance,

but y'all's not going to do anything. Let me. You think they won't let him go? Take them drive picks and rebuild. You're going to go, you're going to go two and 15 with him. You might as well try to rebuild for the future and get three first round draft picks. and go for start over.

Yeah, listen, I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind seeing Miles come on right down the street, man, come on down there in Cincinnati now. Have a good old time with your boy. What do you think about that? What? Miles come on down, an hour down the street, and come on down here to Cincinnati.

No. First of all, you do know who you start. First of all, The Browns used to be owned by Mike Browns Day. I know the history. But I'm just, listen, I can drink. That is happening. I can dream.

I don't, look, I don't think there's no team in the AFC North that has a chance of getting Miles Gair. He'll be going, he's going to the NFC for show. I'm doing everything I can to get him out of the AFC. Now, if somebody in the AFC, hey, want to offer three first round picks in the player, I'm going to have, long as it's not in my division. if it's in the AFC West or the AFC South AFC East

Somebody I'm only going to see Once every two, three years Okay I can deal with that But somebody I got to play twice a year Oh, hell not Not that kind of player Absolutely not

I don't want none of that Absolutely not Absolutely not But Cleveland is not that good man I'm happy for AG that he's put together two wins. But who's the worst team? Saints.

I mean, it's a toss-up at the Saints in the Jets, huh? Yes, but the Saints only got one win, right? Yeah, I mean, the Jets are two and seven. Cleland's two and seven. Titans are one of eight. Oh, I forgot about the Titans.

Hey, the tights been sladding right up under the radar. They've been slat eight. They're going to be bad. They're trying to get that number one pick too. To get, and get what? Something. Trade it and get some more picks. I mean, that's what you need to do, Ocho.

Trade and get more picks. One thing about it, boy. It's hell billing the team, boy. It's hell billing a team, boy. Is hell billing the team? Unless you get that guy. You see how quickly Cincinnati turned it around once they got Joe? You see how Buffalo turning around once they got Josh Allen?

Look, the Kansas City was right there because they had Alex Smith. They got Alex Smith to the trade. But when they got Patrick Mahomes, what they do? Look at the charges now that they got Herbert. You see? Every year when you got that guy, Ocho, if you got a guy, if you get a guy, you got a chance because I can feel it if I got the foundation you're just going you're going from now that's the easy part but that's the that's the problem and I don't think that the chat understands

or understand how difficult even if you're a fan of football it's about the you don't understand how difficult it is I don't know how far and few quarterbacks are good quarterbacks that you can just you can lock in and say you know what this is my quarterback for the next decade the next 15 years and I can bill around him. That is so difficult to find. As to, I don't want to be disrespectful. But okay, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah.

But, uh, I, look, I, I don't, I ain't even, I ain't even thinking about it. When that, I'm just waiting on them when, when Mary Kay Cabin reported that, uh, that Shador Sanders, when she reported, then I'm, then I, I, I, I worry about it. But I'm not worried about it now because that, it ain't happening. They seem to be held, being on trying to. to prove that Dylan Gabriel can play and he might, hey, maybe we need to give him more time.

He is a rookie quarterback, but I just don't think they have enough pieces around him to support him. But, hey, they believe in him. So that's what we got. Hey, I still can't believe that. Outside, if you take away Breece Hall, 40-some-yard run,

feels really hit. Was it raining that game? Yeah, it started raining. I don't, I don't, it didn't look like it was raining at the beginning of the game but as it got later it you know it started coming down damn i'm he only had 12 12 yards yeah if you take away that 42 yard

damn i mean even with the elements i'm i played in rain games and you know had over a hundred and when you think about it just operating a simple offense basic offense I right, I left I mean running curle routes Out routes I mean that's 12 yards right there That's just one play The fact how do you have something like that

And four quarters of play Again let me know We're being cautious We don't want to put the we don't trust The ball in your hands So therefore this is what we have to do Yeah God damn

Reese Hall was basically their offense Of their 100 Hold up they had 40 so That So 42 and 127, that's 169. Breeze Hall had 125 at 169 total yards. Nah, that, oh, that's, yeah, I, I just think Justin Fields need to go somewhere.

Woody Johnson is not, it doesn't mean, doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter who, who plays quarterback. We've seen far too many, the only one that's had a little success for an extended period of time of a Chad Pennington, but nobody else, I mean, boom, you got to go back to boomer had this couple of years there in the 90s. You got to go back to Kenny O'Brien in the 80s, but it's just like sporadic. It's like kind of hit a miss.

Vinny came there and had a good year back in, what was that? 98, they went to the L.C. championship game. We beat them in Denver. And then I think they had that historic comeback on Monday night. Remember they had that comeback again. It was against the dolphins, I think, Ocho. Yeah. But it's just not worth.

working for no quarterback. And if I'm a quarterback, I just dread going to- Well, hold on. It depends on the quarterback. You have to be him. You have to be a Lamar Jackson. Aaron Rogers was him. How he looked.

Oh, yeah. You know what? But look where he was. So a guy that got four MVP's and is a first ballot hall of famer. You know, you look at an easier top 10, top five quarterback of all time. How do he look there? You know what? When you put it like that?

but this is the thing. How would a prime Aaron Rogers look? He'd be fine because he can elevate everything around him. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but you think about what you're saying now. You're talking about they probably been 10 quarterbacks in the history of the game better than Aaron Rogers. So you're talking, what's the likelihood do you possibly get one of those? Not, not likely. Not likely.

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He is the best quarterback in the league this year. He reminds me a little bit of Tom Brady in his later years, and this is a compliment. He's no longer hanging in quite as much to take those big hits because he's playing the long game. They're not going to get pressure on him. Newsflash. It's not going to happen. I think they smoke them. And so much more for all you football sickos, listen to NFL Daily on the IHeart Radio

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh, Cho, I don't know if you saw this game this morning, but Jonathan Taylor runs for 244 rush yards, three touchdowns. And the Colts, 31, 25 victory over the Falcons in Berlin, is Taylor's third career, 200-yard Russian day. Taylor is the fourth player in the NFL history to have at least 200 yards rushing, and at least three Russian touchdown in a game twice in his career. He joins

Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson, excuse me, and Derek Henry. He moved past Hall of Famer, Adrian James, for the most Russian touchdowns in Colts history. Hey. He, look, for me, him and Matthew Stafford, it's hard for me

to overlook Matthew Stafford to what he's doing. He's had three straight games where he's throwing at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions. That's fact. I don't think he's throwing an interception in the last six games and he got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks.

With that being said, Jonathan Taylor's carrying this up in the box, man. Absolutely. Daniel Jones was doing his best job to get his game away. He tried his damage. And Shane Staghan and said, you know what?

I got this workhorse in the back. Man, let me turn around it. Man, let me take the ball at your damn. You'll hand the ball off. Oh, they got damn Falcon defense was putting that pressure on, buddy, man. He's putting that pressure. They got him seven times, Ocho. So obviously, he was a little bit rattled, you know, trying to process.

He trying to sit back there and go through his goddamn reeds. He getting hit in the head every goddamn time. You know what, Ocho? A lot of times is that, look, Sacks is going to happen. But if they're saying, just hold him to the ball. you can't every time they hit you let the ball go because that's going to happen and then the interception of wrong

I'm like what you I give him credit the old Daniel Jones and the Giants I'm not sure he's going to stand there like he did today but when you got that guy right there that is a threat anytime to hit his head on the goalpost they got him bottled up

he steps outside piece it out I mean, 244 Russian yards. Tack on another 42 yards receiving, Ocho. The man had damn than 270 yards. Tyler Warren. I love this kid. Look, and this is not a knock on love lace?

I think that's the tight end in Chicago. Because I think they took him, is it Lovelace or Lovelin? lovely um but i like the i like the warren key nice he is sensational he'll he'll he'll go getter i love his game watching him at penn state i say yeah yeah yeah yeah he he he's a real deal i love i love his game um j t's over 1100 yards 1139 rush yards and 10 games so he got seven games to go. Eight, eight, aren't? Oh, they got, no, no, they got, they already played 10.

They got seven, 17 games. Yeah, they, they haven't had their buy week yet, I don't think. So that's why they got 10, and the Falcons have only played three. I mean, only played nine. You see, move on them. But, hey, these tight ends, man, they just, the tight ends, they just got more tight ends to do it. They just got more.

They were just back in the 80s and you have one or two. You had Ozzy and Kellan. And then in the 90s you had, you had Jay Novichick for a couple of years. And then Ben, Ben Colson, myself, you had Star. I know, I don't know. I know the Patriots fan. You guys will remember starving Marvin Cook. But for the most part, now it was always like one or two, maybe three on the high end.

Now you got McBride. Now you got Hawkinson. Now you got Leporto. Now you got this kid, Warren. You got Loveland. You got just so many guys. You got a Mark Andrews. You got a Travis Kelsey.

You got a Ronde Gass in a second. I mean, you just got so many guys, Ocho. You got a Brock Bowers. You had Kraft that ended up be tearing his knee for the Green Bay Packers. You have so many guys now that can do it. that it doesn't even seem special anymore. It seems special when there's only a handful of guys doing it. Now you've got a bunch of these guys can do it.

But, man, he was, man, he was, I was like, damn. But he's definitely an MVP discussion. Taylor. Jonathan, John, John, you talk about Jonathan. How many, how many yards did, can you figure how many yards Sequin had at this point last year, 10 games into the season? So, because he, damn show got to be on pace for 2000. Yeah, he should be.

Absolutely. If we got, hold on, in 10 games, he has 1139, so he's averaging like 1113 yards a game. So 113 times seven, what would that give him? Would that give him, that give him 2000? Yeah, we forgot about Kittle. I said it. Yeah, I said. Okay.

Hell, I mean, we're going to talk about the Rams in a minute. They threw a touchdown. Every tight-in for the Rams called a touchdown with me. Hell, I was like, call my old ass out of retirement and throw me one. Damn, $49? Y'all going to cover anybody tight-in? Are you going to pinch him? Something.

Yeah, I'm like, damn. They were like, they were giving a touchdown like Oprah gave our car that time. You'll get a car and you'll get a touchdown. You'll get a touchdown. But Taylor, man, he is. He's balling. I think Jonathan Taylor has 1139. yards.

Wow. So he's two yards ahead of what Sequo was at the same time last year. But he got way more touchdowns than Sequard hand. I think this guy he got like 15 touchdowns. Damn, already? Yeah. He got a chance to get

LT's record. Now, yeah. No, so if he average, he's got 15. He can get 25. I mean, you get 25. They're going to seriously seriously give this guy. If he gets 2,000 yards and say 25, the 30 touchdowns, he's going to be MVP. That is a possibility.

It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks. They have to have a crazy surge. And if they did. Because what, go ahead, okay. If there is one, I would say it would probably be Matt Stafford, especially if they keep winning. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stafford, Stafford, Stafford, Stafford, Stafford, Shepard, Drake May.

But Drake, Drake, he's balling up. But Drake, Drake, he's willing to dealing down there in New England,

boy. Wow. Jonathan Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carriers than what Sequin had at the same time last year,

but he has seven more touchdowns. Crazy. So, and we know what we were thinking about Seacquan at this point in time. And the thing is, you can't stack the line

because they got a quarterback and they got receiver that can go get the football. You got a Tyler Warren. You got a Pierce. You got a Michael Pittman Jr. You got downs. So you got guys. You can't just play eight in the box. You really try

to leave these guys one-on-one outside? No. No. Not at all. So. And the funny thing about it is when you watch film, you see Taylor have games like he had last week. Yeah, we're in week 10. You already know where the ball is going. And he's

still getting off and do what he wants to do. And I think there is a healthy balance. Obviously, Daniel Jones was a little shaky today. He was a little shaky last, you know, last week. But outside of that, since week one, he's been really good throwing the ball through the air. He's been really good at it. So there's a healthy balance that they do have, despite Jonathan Taylor having an impeccable season thus far, teams are going to prove, all right, you're going to have to beat us through the air. we're not allowing you to run the ball. If we have to run

a goddamn 4-6 bare defense you're going to throw that goddamn ball. Yeah, well, that's what's going to happen. But here's the thing. The thing that concerns me is that their right, their tackles been getting the ass kicked. Hey, the tackles been getting their ass kicked. Who the hell is that goddamn left tackle?

Hell, the right one, or Smith, I forget the left tackle name. But both of them, not just the left one, the right one, too. Both of them had got their ass handed to them today. Yeah. Oh, this is indie schedule next week? Oh, okay, here's indie schedule. At Chiefs, Texas at home, at Jags, at Jags, at Seahawks, 49ers at home,

Jags at Texas. Hey, that Chief's game, they need to be able to move that to a prime time game, depending on what time it is. It's the morning game. It's a 1 a.m. game. Bam. That's one supposed to be 4.30. I'm looking.

They got the Colts played a 49ers. That's a Monday night game. Yeah. Yeah. She's played the Broncos. next week. Oh, y'all are gonna get Molly walk. Hey, but y'all are gonna get Molly walked, boy.

No, we're not. Yeah. Ain't happening. But the calls moved to 8 and 2, number one seed to the AFC currently. Thanks to a 3125 overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons. DeMarcus Lawrence has scored two defensive touchdowns on plays that seem so similar to each other. Same guys forced to fumble.

DeLaw Johnny on the spot picks it up. But D.Law returned two fumbles for touchdown became the six-player and the six-player since at least 1991 with two defensive touchdowns in the first half of a game. Seahawks finished with five sacks while playing without interest starters, Julian Love, Josh Job, Ernest Jones, the fourth, and Jaron Reed. they got out the Jacoby percent. Absolutely. They got a...

Absolutely. Ocho? Me and you talking about this. Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to have to start catching the ball. It's really that simple. It's really that simple, Ocho. He too good, Ocho, he too good to have those drops like that, man.

He too good. And his dad say the offense not flowing And so forth so on But, hey, Marv Your son got to hold on to the ball, bro. He does. He does. A little inconsistent.

A little inconsistent. Jacoba Bissette was 22 or 42, 258, two touchdowns. Got sacked five times. How he ended up with numbers like this in? I don't know. Because hell, it seemed like every time in the first half he dropped back in the past,

they were only bad. McBride had a date. McBride had not... McBride? Well, McBride... I mean, look, he wanted to build of tight ends. Nine catches above 27. One touchdown on 13 targets.

D. Mercado, three for 40 on four catches. Marvin Harrison Jr. Yes, sir. Three catches, 12 targets. Ooh. Hey, they were trying to get him that rock, boy. They were trying to get in that rock. If they throw it to you, you can't throw it back at him.

I mean, we got to be real, Chad. y'all watch the game he drops a lot of passes he does hey um it was 35 zero in the second quarter yes it was eight minutes left in the second quarter it was 35 zero this is the NFL game the I mean when they listen when Arizona played the cowboys last week man we was hooping and hollering excited oh they're probably not going to start Carl and Murray, they felt Jacoby Brissette was the better option going forward. He looked good. But you see what happened when you go against a real team with a better defense?

With a real defense? And they come in to get you. You got two, maybe two and a half seconds to get that ball out your hands. And that's about it. And that, hey, that's Seattle offense? They didn't have to do my Ocho, Sam Darner was tilled 12 for 178 yards.

This man threw the ball 12 times, Ocho, in the NFL game. It won, convincingly. It wasn't even that close. They ran the ball 46 times for 198 yards. Charbonneau had 14 carries for 83 yards. Kenneth Walker, the 3rd, had 14 for 67. 8.

But Jackson Smith and Jigba, 5 for 93 in a tub. Cooper Cup, two for 74. That was the damage right there. That was seven for $167 right there. Charminole remind me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings. Yeah. Same running style,

pants shirt tucked in, pants high. The thing is, also this game, they might have scored 60 if Sam Donald holds on to the, if they don't fumble the ball. and then he turned it over

this game could have easily been 50 to 10 50 something would have The coaches would have been fighting on the field after the game if they ran their score up like that They wasn't running up

But all they had to do was not turn it over That was a good game Hey Seattle looked good man On both sides of the ball Yeah Seattle looked good man They look good, man. They look good.

Their defense get after you. And they have, I mean, think about how many starters they had, Julian Love starter, Josh Joe started, Ernest Jones, the fourth starter, Jared Reed. That's four starters. And they put, and they did have a performance like this today. They're good. They good. They can run it.

They can throw it. They can get after your quarterback. They're, hey, and now they got woollen and they got spoon? Yeah. Spoon nice. We, hey, we'll find out a lot next week because they got the rail. They ain't going to be put to the test because you got, hey, you got Devonte and Polka. Hey, what, where they're playing at?

In L.A.? Well, let's go to the game. I hit Stan. We can get, we get, we get, we get Corside. I'm good. Hey, you don't, well, you don't ever want to hang out with me, boy. I'll tell you, boy, I'll tell you about. No, I don't want to.

hang out at the game. I tell you about black folk, well, y'all be, y'all be killing me. Hey, I told you I'm coming out and to visit you in the offseason. Wait, we're going to wait all the way to the off season? Yeah, we're working now. Man, you need to learn to live a little bit, man. You could come down here right now. We could do the show, you know, like, in the same house. I think the people would love to see that, you know, you know, we... I don't think they love to see that. Side by side.

And plus, I got to, you know, I got to take a few trips. I got to do some stuff for some other stuff. So I got to save my, I got to save my. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, Joe, back-up quarterback Davis Mills and the Texans overcame a 19.4th quarter deficit to stun the Jags is the second largest comeback in franchise history. Only behind the 21-point comeback win over the charges in 2013.

It's the first time the Jaguars had led by 19 points in a game and lost. Before today, they were 50. 53 and O in such games, including the playoffs, and were the only current NFL franchise that had won each such game. Man, Trevor Lawrence, man. Hey, he, uh, he's the answer, but he had a bad day to day, though.

Yeah, but far too many of these. Remember, remember, the Rams game over there in London yeah yeah yeah he stunked that one up he stunked up

he just need a little bit more because Ocho 13 or 23 a buck 58 8 Ocho they barely had they barely had two and I don't know

they had 20 50 yard passing Hey that that fourth quarter was bad but the Texas outscored the goddamn Jaguars 26 zero in the fourth quarter one quarter yeah that how we did

the high we did, you know, we scored 33 against the time. In a quarter? 33 in the fall quarter. We were down. Well, how many possessions y'all had? Three or four? Don't worry about it.

Enough to score 33. They must turn the ball over twice. I tell you what. I know we did to the old them bangles. I wasn't playing. We're the one that got Jake Browning on the bench. Made them trade for Joe Flachers.

Well, here is where you lost the game at, Jax. Texas was $10.15 on third down. Hey, super, super duper efficient. Super duper efficient. I'm trying to. They had 69 plays. You have 55 plays. They had 11 drives you had,

but they average six yards per play. You average 3.9. That's Cree. Oh, 26. One. See, like, the Jags spent a lot of effort to beat the Chiefs. Remember, they had to go. Didn't they go to overtime to beat the Raiders last week?

Man. Triple Lawrence. It was ready. Yeah. Last be out. Just a little bit more consistency. That's it. A little bit, a little bit more consistency.

Ocho, Ocho, Ocho. I get it, but we've been at this for a while now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent and he ain't being consistent. Not at all. He's not playing well. He's playing.

He's too up and down. You don't know what Trevor Lawrence you're going to get. But he got all the talent in the world. He got all in. Oh, they did. He can make every throw. He's athletic. He got all intangibles.

You got a big time arm? Exactly what you look for in a quarterback, a franchise quarterback, which is just wanting to have a strength, be able to put him back to back to back, put him back to back to back, the back to back, the back to back. If you're going to have errors, let's minimize them. He's having one too many. One too many.

There's no way a team is supposed to be able to come back in a game like this and score 26. 26. As a quarterback, you're supposed to give me my best. best chance to win, not just win, but at least compete week to week. You're playing against the backup quarterback? But that defense, man, hey, they saw that, hold on, man, we stopped and we got a touchdown. And let's hold them again.

Let's hold, man, hey, Anderson, Jr. And the guy they got from Minnesota, what's his name, Daniel Hunter. Yeah. Hey, the boy, nice, boy. Hey, they come into the party. Invitation or no invitation. Yeah. Remind you or somebody else you know, huh?

Obrago, Obrago, Cuadry. Who that? Benito. O'Brongo Country. Oh, Benito, Zach Allen, Cooper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We still ain't got nobody. Hey, we ain't got nobody within 10 sacks of us. And we don't have, hey, we do.

They might catch you. Who? Who? They ain't had their buy yet. Okay. I don't think we had our buy yet either. Well, we played 10 games. Y'all, y'all defense is real good, though.

Like, like, like, yeah, and we did he got pat. Once we get Pat back. We really, I'm about like, really, really, really good. Oh, I do, no, I deal legit. I do legit. You got to get, you got to get their office going. Our office stresses them a lot. You got to get the offense going.

We definitely got to get the offense going. But that was a good game. I watched this through its entirety. Man, my cable will be like $600. All these damn channels I got to get to watch these games. Wait, just use U.T. Rookie. You don't use the NFL Red Zone?

Man. No comment. Rookie Tyler Shook threw two touchdowns to earn the Saints first win. as they defeat the Panthers 17 to 7. It marks the eight time and nine starts this season that Bryce Young was limited to fewer than 200 passing yards. Panthers coach Dave Canales described the loss as frustrating. Yeah, you lost to a team that had one win coming into this ball game.

And y'all look terrible. See, the NFL is? You see, week to week, ain't no telling what's going to happen. Ain't no tell you, if you was a gambling man again. I'm going to say it again. If you was gambling, if you was a gambling man and understand a game of football and you was betting, you're betting on the pants of the win this game. You're betting on the pants of the win this game based on how they look this season.

They surprise us. They surprise y'all. They ain't surprised me because I said this is how they was going to look. But today, if I had put money down, I would have bet the house on them to win today. The Saints who've only won one game ain't no way in hell. Ain't a way in hell. Yeah. And they're home.

Nah. Hey, right, is the reason they say any given Sunday. And this is exactly, this is a visual representation of exactly what that phrase means. Bright's going to have to get it together, Ocho. Would you say you got to get it together? You have to get it together. old quiet boy I think next year

it's going to be make a break for him I'm not sure they pick up that option that fits the option I don't think they're going to do that

but next year it's going to be huge for him he's going to have the best the best career best year of his career yeah and the mere fact

that they're not He's not about to get no $300 million deal to tell you everything you need to know. They did on shit. But give the Saints credit. Alvin Kamara ran the ball, 22 rushes, 83 yards. Chris Olavet had his best game of the season,

five catches above. You saw that one-hand catch he had? Johnson, four catches, 92 yards on a touchdown. Kamara, three catches, 32 yards. But they played well. They played extremely well. The defense did a great job, of getting after Bryce Young,

they stymond Rico, 23 carries for 73 yards total for the Carolina offense. That's not nearly good enough. That's not nearly good enough. It hurt them that they fumbled the football. When he fumbled the football, what's the guy from a horn?

Jimmy Horn. He flung with the ball. Hmm. that uh that won't do it that won't do it oh cho in a game that set offensive football back 50 60 70 years the Broncos beat the Raiders in a snooze fence by the score of 10 to 7 Denver extends its winning streak to seven games the Broncos moved to 8 and 2 their next game is against the chiefs at home

Bo Nix was 16 of 28, 150, one touchdowns, two interceptions. Gino Smith was 16 or 26, 143, one interception. It was bad. It was just bad football all around. Thank you, Denver's defense. I don't understand. I'm looking at the Bronco. I don't listen.

There's enough blame to go around on show. I don't know what Sean Payton was calling tonight. Right. I don't know. You got the wind at your back and you won't throw it down the field. Yes. You get the wind into your face. You say, okay, Bo, throw it down.

field. I don't get you block a punt and you go backwards. You get a kick and you go backwards. It was just bad offensive football. And I just remember being in games like this when I was in Denver and we were really good, Ocho. And it was almost like we had lost the game. It was almost like a funeral because you have a certain level of expectations that you expect to play to. Yes. And Michael, and all you hear me say this all the time. You never accept anything in a win that you wouldn't in a loss. Right. We won the game. But, you know, you know, you cannot be happy with the way we played in winning the game. You play any team that you think you're a playoff team, okay,

maybe they go to the playoffs. You're not winning playing that type of offensive football. You just beat a bad team. The ratings are bad. Yes. They're bad, don't you? I mean, there's no way around it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.

The Raiders are a bad team. Yes. Go ahead. Well, listen, the Raiders are 2 and 8 offensive. They couldn't get anything going. mistaken they had 12 or 12 or 13 13 um bribes the series okay with it but they went where they went three and out if i'm not mistaken obviously gino with the offense playing as bad as they were they can't overcome interceptions the hell the goddamn broncos defense um they are so goddamn

good i'm not saying i'm not saying it's two thousand ravens i'm not saying it's the legion of boom or they're not maybe not the no-fly zone of the of the broncos season when they went to the super bowl but they are god damn good they're very good and minus no p2's not even playing right now i think he's going for the next three weeks and they they were phenomenal they were phenomenal that's why they were in the game and for the raiders you have to understand games like this this is why kickers are so important unk even though it was a snooze fest it was the opportunity for the game to go in overtime all the kick for the raiders had to do was make the kick just make the kick games are won and lost on the leg sometimes

You got one job to do, Unk. You have one job to do as a kicker that can give your team a chance to win or tie a game or send it in overtime, and he wasn't able to do that. And listen, you said it right. It was a snooze fest at night, not much offense, but it was a lot of defense played. And there's really not much to take away from it. But you do get games like this. You do, you do have to win ugly games like this.

And listen. The Broncos been winning ugly games. They beat the Texans last week. Basically, the games, just because you score a bunch of points in the end, it's been ugly. I mean, you can't keep spotting teams like this. That's the Raiders. Yeah. I mean, you play good team.

It's going to be very interesting. Spot the Chargers like this. Spot Kansas City like this and see what happens. You can't keep, oh, we can come back. It's great. Can I say something? Can I say something, even if you do spot among, and even with the Chargers, even with the Chargers offense, even with.

with the, even with the Chief's offense, I don't think, let's not underestimate how good the Bronco defense is. Oh, they're the defense on all three levels. And the offense might be somewhat of Achilles Hill for them right now, but even special teams is good. The special team is good, and the defense is phenomenal. So they can overcome bad offensive play because they can make up for it in certain areas. But here's the thing.

What happens, look, this was a bad team. The Raiders are bad. There's no way around it. and I thought the game plan that they implemented tonight was bad. I thought Bull Nix played his worst game of the year. Tonight, he was just downright awful. But Ocho, other team, Kansas City, got an offense and a defense. The charges got an offense and a defense.

So, yeah, they're going to, you're going to go up. Man, look here. People keep telling me, man, y'all just picking on Riley Moss because he, that guy dropped the touchdown. Yeah. That guy dropped an effing touchdown. Yes. Gino Smith overshot Lockett in the first half are wide open.

Now, I understand that is a tough route to cover. It is. Well, he missed Lockett on one and he missed the other. I think it was Thornton that ran a whip route. Those are a hard route to cover, but we got to stop this. I understand, hey, you don't normally see white guys. You can probably count on one hand. in the last 50 years that you've seen a white guy play corner.

But boy, if that defense, they'd have Allen and Bonito and Cooper and those guys, they can get up to quarterback. Hey, they, um, them boys nasty up front, man. Oh, they jump off the ball now. Matter of fact, the front four for the Broncos right now is the way we talked about the front four for the Eagles last year. Yeah, they get off the ball. They are hell, especially them two on the out, them two.

That goddamn. Bonito and Cooper. Hey, you see how. fast he'd get off the goddamn ball? Yeah, I do. What's that hell? Don't sleep on 99. Oh, Alan?

Oh, yeah. In the middle? Boy, he's whipping ass in there. Yeah, he's nice. He's nice. He's really, he's real. Hey, for some reason, for some reason, on every team, why is it always that the guard and the center are always the weak link to office the line?

Why is that? Because your most athletic guys are edge rushers. Your Miles Garrett, your T.J. Watts, your Benito, those guys that play the edge. Lawrence Taylor, Derek, Thomas, all those guys play the edge. So you put your most athletic, you put your least athletic. let it guys on the inside. Right. But then you get a guy like an Aeron Donald or Warren Sapp

and they go whip hell out of him. Oh, yep. And so that's what happens. And Alan, he's so, he's, he's, he's tall for de-tackle. Right. And the thing is, he can lock out. And so now he locks out, he'll, he'll rip, he'll swim. He's, he's phenomenal.

Yeah. He's having, he's having a, he's having a, they're in a whole lot of defensive tackles that are better than him. They might have bigger names, but he's, plays at all he plays the run he gets after your quarterback he can pressure your quarterback he passes he'll put your quarterback on the ground he's a solid he's a hard playing jesse now you got those two guys that's on the outside yeah he don't and cooper that's forcing everything inside so you step up here he's there to clean up right down yeah so you you a it's first come first

serve meet me at the quarterback i'll be there in about 0.7 3 seconds hey you better not be late If you're late. But look, they set the game of football back. This offensive football, what we watch tonight, this is not indicative of the Broncos. I'm sorry. I've seen the Broncos and I watch them every week and I try to watch them watch them closely.

And the third quarter is normally a sluze fest for them, but they're a better football team than what they showed tonight. They are. The defensively and special teams won them this game tonight. Yes. But, you know, also I think, I think, if I'm not mistaken, the way the play calling was, I think Sean Payton was actually protecting Bo Nix,

making sure he doesn't put him in situations that weren't advantageous for them where he can turn the ball over. Because, you know, I see Bo Nix as somewhat of a gunslinger. He liked to let that thing go. He liked to let it go. So the play calling to me, it was somewhat conservative

to make sure he doesn't put Bo Nix in situations where he can turn the ball over and give the Raiders' opportunities to score. nine of 30 on third downs ocho the two teams combined nine of 30 yeah that's crazy that's crazy ain't nine of 30 oh cho the broncos had it third and one and they run a gimmick yeah oh they're going to throw a bow nick throw the ball to court and sutton court and sutton is going to throw the ball come bro get the first you see you're struggling offensively right that's what that's what i don't get i see we're struggling offensively. The last thing I need to do is get these guys off the field.

Let me get this first down and maybe we can stand a rhythm. It's hard. The Broncos punter. He was terrible. The Raiders punter is putting the ball down at the footline. He punted the ball out of damn midfield. Yeah. He damned them missed the whole ball. He kicked one ball with the shit with his shin. Yeah. I'm like, how you missed the whole damn ball? Yeah, he said he sank the bad. He shanked a couple of. of them I'm like well maybe maybe he can't see me I'm like bro what is going on it's the bright lights this you're not going to play again for another 10 days on Joe you got the weekend off

that that display what they put on display tonight defense defensively the Broncos are legit defensively you're not going to find three you're not going to find two a they're top three defense and I'm not so sure they're not two or three yeah their front seven their front seven matches up with anybody I don't give a damn who their front seven is. If you like Minnesota, if you like the Texans, if you like the Eagles, if you like the Rams, I don't care

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