Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 11 Part 2: Ja'Marr Chase SPIT on Jalen Ramsey?!, Sam Darnold MELTDOWN throwing 4 PICKS against the Rams

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest NFL storylines of the week! The guys react to Ja'Marr Chase spitting on Jalen Ramsey in Bengals loss to Steelers, the Ram...s take hold of the NFC West, Jameis Winston makes season debut and much more! 0:00 - Steelers vs Bengals16:04 - Seahawks vs Rams23:01 - Packers vs Giants 26:00 - Bears vs Vikings (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:48 The Jets aren't good, but the Patriots look good. I mean, those first couple drives, Drake May was with Brady-esque. I'm talking about precision. Yes, he was nice. Stefan Diggs. He would be dealing. And reinvigorated, he looks good. Treveyorne Henderson is running extremely hard. Two touchdowns on the ground, one in the air. Drake made 25 or 34, 24, 281, one touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I thought overall, I thought they played well. But, who, let, let, let's, before we get to the jazz, let's highlight the Patriot, so, Joe. Yeah, okay, okay. Mike Brayble has done an unbelievable job. You go, I'm going to let you go ahead and go. Hell of a job. Hell of a job.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Listen, Mike Brable, I'm not. sure what he did once he got there, but he's done one hell of a job. Obviously, it makes things much easier when you have a quarterback that's playing out of his mind and only his second year in Drake May. In the division, they 3 and 0. Obviously, the talk has always been the Super Bowl. They're supposed to go to the Super Bowl. This is their year, the Buffalo bills, their two and two in the division. The goddamn, the Patriots have dominated all season long. Being 9 and 2, this is something I wasn't expecting, being being the fan of the game of football that I am. I didn't think they would be this good. They have been really, really well.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And because of the quarterback play, obviously the supporting cast, the defense is played well. Stefan Diggs is playing out of his mind. He's playing out of his mind. He's playing very, very good football. Matt Collins is out there making plays. Douglas doing well as well. And Trayvon, is it Trayvon Henderson? Am I saying the right? Trayvon Henderson? Man, listen, but Young Bull, nice, boy. Young Bull is real nice. Young Bull real nice. Hey, he's one of the few running backs, too, Unk, on the, on the field that can hit his head off the goalposts. Oh, he got speed to play with.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Oh, yeah, he got speed, got speed to burn. So, man, they look really good. They look really good tonight, man. And on defense, hey, that got, hey, that goddamn Christian Gonzalez. Hey, he's nice. Oh, he, oh, he flew it. Hey, hey, listen, he's nice. He needs, I know he's been injured a little bit,
Starting point is 00:04:50 but he needs to be in the conversation of top five DBs, especially. Oh, yeah, yeah, he is. I mean, you know, PS. P.S. 2, Stingley, Jr., him, you know, those are your top, I guess people like J.C. Horn. Some people like J.C. Horn. But I think, I think Gonzales, I think P.S.2, and I think Stingley Jr., I think those are the top three corners in my book. Because they all present very different. Now, Gonzales and PS2, they got kind of similar body types. They're tall, angular. Stingley's a little bit more compact. Probably a little bit, a little more, because a little, probably a little stronger because of the way he, the way he's built, but if you look at the way PS2 and the way he glides,
Starting point is 00:05:36 he and Gonzalez have very, very similar game. Yeah. Yeah, Trivion and here, it's the A, had two rush and one in there. Yeah, they threw him one. But yeah, this is, this is, Ocho, this is a very good team. They're very well coached, and now you see why, that after one year, Mr. Crafts, like, you know what, Gerard, I really hate to pull the plug this quick, but this coach is proven and it's too good
Starting point is 00:06:02 to pass up. And if we don't do this now, there's a good... He'd be going somewhere else. Yeah, he'd be going somewhere else. Because if you think about it, the Falcons interviewed Mike Brable, Mike McDonald at Seattle. They interviewed like four guys that are doing extremely well right now. And they set it on Raheim's going to have to get this thing. he's going to have to get this thing turned around.
Starting point is 00:06:27 But just watching New England, they don't beat themselves. I know, you know, Vrable doesn't really mention a whole lot, but I think he took a whole lot playing under Coach Belichick, the mannerism. Now, he's not as, he's not as stoic on the sideline. He's waiting to give his guys high-fives coming off the field. He's waiting to hug his guys. You watch him in the hallway, Ocho, when they're coming out of the field after Big Rick,
Starting point is 00:06:49 victory, he's hugging everybody. Hey, come on, get in here. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. He's a guy I would love to play for. He's the type of guy that you love you love to play for because he ain't going to sugarcoat it now, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:07:02 You know exactly where you stand with Mike Grable. Yes, sir. Ocho. Take your time. Take your time. I tweeted a little bit, but I just stopped tweeting because people, you know, I think people are going like, man, you pick it on the guy.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But at some point in time, Ocho, I'm not so sure. or Justin Fields is going to ever be what a lot of people thought he would become. Ocho, let me give you some of these stats. He was 3-4-11. He got injured in the fourth quarter for 27 yards. He played the entire game against the Broncos. He was 9 of 17 for 45 yards. He played the entire game against the Carolina Panthers.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He was 6 of 12 for 46 yards. And lost to Cleveland, he was 6 of 11 for 54 yards. and 42 of those yards came on a screenplay. Screenpad, Debris Hall. Tonight, before the final drive, he had 75 yards passing. Yes, sir. I think A.D. Mitchell left his hands in Indy. Yeah, hey, oh, listen, listen.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Now, he ended the game with 75 yards, right? No, he had 116. But that final drive, he got 41 of the 116. Right. So, so one of the things I do want to say, before, before we pile on Justin Feiger, I want to talk about some of the drop passes, A.D. Mitchell, two big plays. Two big plays in the first half, before half. You got the had those.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Especially that goal ball. Yeah. Oh, man, you got to have that. Hey, it's perfect, though. Outside shoulder away from the deep. You can't ask for anything more than that, Ocho. You got to have. That's perfect red line.
Starting point is 00:08:47 You pull that in. Then the wheel route. they're out and up you know adjust yourself slow down a little bit you know perfect perfect ball outside shoulder db has no way to make a play had no way to make a plan you've got to had that so those those are those are passes that you got to help your quarterback out sometime you got to help your quarterback and that's why the stats look like look the way they look sometimes they drop pass yeah he had a he had a couple of drops but there was a couple ocho he had 80 probably would have dropped it but he had him on a he had him on a
Starting point is 00:09:19 Mitch. Ocho, he had him on a hit. Ocho, that's a simple pitch and catch. Oh, he threw a wide. Ocho, you put that on him, because here's the thing, the DB is probably retreating. You put that on him, now I'm going to face you up. There's a chance I can make you miss. At least, at least, I caught it at five, and bare minimum, Ocho, I'm going to get a first down.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I might make you miss and get even more. I'm like, Justin, to start the game, you can't, because what do we always say, Ocho, give me something. I just want to get my hand. I just want to touch the ball. Just let me touch it. You ain't got to give me nothing sophisticated. Just let me catch a hit.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Let me catch a stick. Let me catch a shallow cross. I just want to touch the ball. You give it to me early. You got me late. Yeah. Justin. How, how on a five-yard hitch route,
Starting point is 00:10:07 you miss a guy that far outside? Mm-hmm. And listen, that goes for the quarterback, too. Most of the time, some quarterbacks, they don't want to come out with anything neat. They want something short. They want a nice low checkdown to get themselves in a rhythm
Starting point is 00:10:20 to get a feeling for the game and not really chase the game but allow the game to come to them and that's what you want. You want a slant. You want to hit you want some short but I think right now I'm not sure with as bad as the Jets are
Starting point is 00:10:36 everyone around Justin Fields has to be almost dead. But they don't have that. They have to raise their level of play they got to raise their level of play to catch up or to make sure they can overcome for just his mistakes or his lack of confidence right now.
Starting point is 00:10:53 You have to. That's what you need. You need that kind of dog out there. And he didn't play tonight. I think Gary Wilson is on IR right now. So he's going to miss the next now three games after the night. And then, boy, they got the mustard up. They got the mustard up, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Those that are there, John Micheemason made some plays. John Messi, I'm sorry, I apologize, Messi. Yeah, he made some plays tonight. tied in, you know, a little checkdown play. But that's... Yeah, you got to have that catch. That tied in on the fourth down, you got to hold that one.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You got the first down, and you're getting lazy because you take it so long to submit the ball to you. The guy's driving. And bring it in. Yeah, yeah, you're driving on. Damn! He knocked it down.
Starting point is 00:11:34 But outside of that, man, listen, the Jets, they... They didn't play that bad. They didn't. They really just couldn't get off the field. In that first half, Ocho, they couldn't get off the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 I mean, they get them in 30. they get them in third and four, third and five, they get a first down. They get them in third and ten. They get a first down. They just could not get off the field. And I'm like, okay, they rush three, they rush four, they bring pressure, they still didn't get there. I'm like, well, damn, how difficult, I mean, man, how difficult is it? And you're right.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I think a lot of times the drops, maybe that messes with Justin Fields' confidence because he's like, well, am I doing something? What am I doing wrong? Because he'll throw one terrible and then he'll drop a dime. He'll throw two terrible, he'll throw another dime. He had A.D. Mitchell again on the go. He had Gonzalez in the ass with the ball. I thought he's playing Penn and the tail on the donkey.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I said, but damn. He, Ocho, he had him. He hit Gonzalez in the ass. Yeah, he was beat. And that's the thing. When you get a guy beat down there, Ocho, you know, you're already struggling as an offense. You can't miss off. And that's what I tweeted.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I said, Mitchell, you're not that good offensively to over. you're not that good of a team to overcome those kind of mistakes. That's a flat-out draw. And they're not. And you're saying, okay, you get a guy like Justin Fields and he's struggling, but they don't have the receivers. They don't have a chase or a Jetta or one of these top flight receivers that get, or a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They need more than one. They need a couple of them that can elevate them. And I just, I just. Yeah. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. And listen, not only that, they're not playing well.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They let two of their best players on defense go. Obviously, you got, you got players for them, so you would hope those players that you got in the trade can step up and play the par. And obviously, it's 80's first week. This is first game, too, right? This is his first game. They ain't the first time he caught a pass,
Starting point is 00:13:38 but it ain't the first time he ran around. Well, I mean, I mean, you tell me it's football. You say, no matter where you go, wherever you play. Right, right, right, right, right. Like, I'm not, listen, I'm not making no excuses for him. You have to make those plays. You have to. You got to.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And with Justin Fields out, excuse me, with Garrett Wilson out, you're supposed to be their best receiver. Because at the coach, they had high expectations until you got into Shane Stuyken's doghouse with that fumble. It was never the same after that. Now, maybe there was something going on. Maybe that was the final straw that broke the Campbell's back, Ocho. But from that point on, it wasn't the same. No. It wasn't the same.
Starting point is 00:14:16 But I just don't know. how. You throw for 27 yards in a game, you throw for 45 yards in a game, you throw for 46 yards in a game, you throw for 54 yards in a game, and you throw for 116 and 41 of that came on the final drive. I just don't know how you move on and become and become what people thought you were going to become when they took you as a top draft pick. Now, you know, I think you were 15 to 16, something like that, Ocho. I just don't see the consistency. I don't see, I don't see, I don't see, I don't see him one, two, check it down, one, two, three, out of bounds. One, two, gone. I don't see that. And you know as a quarterback, the really good ones? Yes. Back foot hit. Okay, I'm dropping back. I know the play, Ocho, I'm dropping back. Already I'm going through it. Okay, we've gone through the course of the week. Cover one, we go here. Cover two, we go there. Quarters, we go here. Cover five, we go there sky six we already know so when you back it up the safety's already told you what it's due single high safety oh i know i'm going right now oh he's covered let me go let me see
Starting point is 00:15:25 what two is is two there okay let me take this check down oh joe yeah see it seems like it's like he got a dial-up service he ain't got that 5g they said they got something they got 10 g up in china say you cut the phone up they're already gone to what you're looking for yeah yeah most definitely i i think the fact that also with the officer line not not playing as well as they should be. He's rushing everything a little bit, not being able to go through his progression and understand, listen, pre-snap,
Starting point is 00:15:54 okay, I'm seeing what they're doing. And once that ball snaps, you know, obviously you want that you want that head straight down the field, not giving anything away and not having the time to be able to go through his read. In progression, I think he speeds things up and hurries throws, he rushes throws,
Starting point is 00:16:10 the hurry to get the ball out of his hands too. Yeah, I mean, Ocho, I'm looking at against Buffalo. average 2.5 yards of the temp against the Broncos 2.6 yards per attempt against Carolina, 3.8 yards per attempt against Cleveland, 4.9 yards of attempt. That's not even a running back average is squat if he's doing that. Imagine if you're a quarterback and that's what your yards per attempt is. That is horrible. Yeah. Yeah, it's bad, but also, you know, also, you know what else? It also comes down to the weapons around you. It also comes down to What do you have, what is your supporting cats like?
Starting point is 00:16:49 Now, you take a Justin Fields, here, hypothetically speaking, right? So you keep the same office and you put a Jamar Chase or you put a Justin Jefferson, you put a T. Higgins or you put any of the top tier, top tier receivers on that team together. You know, a one and a one or a one or a decent one-a-one or a decent one-a-1-1-1. Yeah. Hey, it looks completely different because they can overcome for all. all the wolves that Justin Fields may be having. They can overcome all that.
Starting point is 00:17:19 The small stuff. You got Jamar Chase, crazy-ass, could take a goddamn flint and a goddamn hitch, 80 yards. You got T. Higgins, any ball you throw to him, which was considered for most receivers, 50-50. Hell, with him, it's 90-10. Like small stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:17:36 when you have players that can elevate their play to overcome for your shortcomings, it makes things easier, but they just don't have that. or everybody else has to raise their level of play and damn near be perfect. And that's the issue. That's the issue they have. If you look at the guys that you just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:17:55 they had their best seasons. If you think about it, what do the guys do really well? Process information really, really quickly. Oh, yeah. Go back and look at Joe Burroughs. Now go back and look at Joe Flacko. It doesn't even look like Chase has fallen off.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Because Joe Flacco back foot hit, I'm going to him. Is it already? Cousins. or Sam Darnel, you can tell who's in there with Jeddah. Because they process information quickly. That is the number one thing. How well do you download information and how quickly can you disseminate it?
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Starting point is 00:23:24 and not only being able to spit it out, but you know it makes it even easier, the motherfucker you throw into one of the other than the ball. It makes it that much easier. But see, now you got me, okay, I run a hitch route. now you got me well do i need to slide or do i need to slide because i'm anticipating because i don't know where it's going to be i know normally i'm going to get a hitch i will get
Starting point is 00:23:46 it in the framework of my body ocho because he's not going to be under pressure because it's one two three boom balls out so he's not going to be up under pressure so i think i'm going to get the ball somewhere in here here oh cho not out here yeah yeah so it makes it difficult it's like Sometimes when you're dealing with a mobile quarterback, it's hard to adjust to them, Ocho, because I run my route and next thing, I know he way over, the crowd screaming. I'm like, damn, what happened? He way over there.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I'm like, what, damn. So it's hard when your quarterback is inconsistent. I don't give a damn who the receiver is. You want some consistency at that position, but you want somebody that can digest information. The coach put it in, and he spit it right back out in the form of getting the ball out of his hand.
Starting point is 00:24:39 I hope I'm wrong. I pray I'm wrong, but I just don't know if he's ever going to be what many thought he would be, especially when you look at the game that he had against, who do he play against Clemson? You look at that game that he had against Clemson. And he was sensational.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. And I was like, okay, now, playing with those guys that he had, Alave and Garrett Wilson and all those guys, we understand. See? See? But you realize once you get to the NFL,
Starting point is 00:25:09 the likelihood of you having five receiver that are five stars or be that type of guy, the likelihood is not very good. Yeah. Does he have a chase? No. Does he have any of the top receivers? No.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Now what I will say, what I will say, he does have Garrett Wilson. Yes. Now, Garrett Wilson, who had a phenomenal, who had a phenomenal rookie year, With lesser quarterbacks, if you look at him, if you look at him, if you just put him on paper. And you say, look at what was throwing to Garrett Wilson when he won offensive rookie of the year. And you look at what's throwing to Gary Wilson.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Now, if you just look on the play, just, hey, you're like, man, with Justin Fields, he's about to go crazy. And he played with him in college. Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, Garrett Wilson is a phenomenal talent. nothing should taper off when you have a talent like that.
Starting point is 00:26:04 It's so easy. When you look at what they're able to do with Devante Adams and pooping the cooler, hell, JSN. And obviously I don't think the Jets' officer coordinator has that kind of creativity
Starting point is 00:26:14 to put and you and Justin, Justin Fields, to use Garrett Wilson in the right type of way to create those mismatches like the other team do. And that's just not the way that offense is run.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I can give you all the nice ingredients I won't, but if you down can't cook, what the hell have I done? I spent a whole lot of money on going great food, great ingredients, and I know you can't make a dish with it. It comes down to it, Ocho. Go look at chalk and the iron shelf, and they get these people, okay, I'm going to give
Starting point is 00:26:46 you chocolate, I'm going to give you onions, I'm going to give you stone crabs. And I'm like, how did you even think of this? Yes. But you give somebody, you can give, oh, okay, I'm going to give you steak, I'm going to give you this, I'm going to give you that. You're like, what I'm supposed to make. I just, I hope I'm wrong, chat.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I really do. But I just, I just, and I've seen him and I've watched him. Now, this man has gone through three head coaches and probably four offensive coordinators. Yeah. And I'm not, and, and, and, and sometimes you get lucky and you get to, you get a Sean McVeigh or you get a Kyle Shanahan. But I just don't, I just don't know it.
Starting point is 00:27:29 because at the end of the day, the quarterback position is all about processing information and spitting it back out. That's what it comes down to. It is. I mean, I don't care how big your arm is. I don't care how fast your legs are.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Can you process it, Ocho? Because that's a whole different ballgame because not only much you process it, Ocho, you got to realize they got, on most occasions, they got four guys that's really trying to tell your damn head off. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:58 You're in fear for your love. life but also you've got to calm yourself down and says you know what yeah one two check down one two uh throw it out of bounds one two if that i'm out yeah it's all it's all about that clock you know what don't joe maybe maybe maybe put him in maybe put him in hurry up the game because it seems like you know when he's in hurry up he's better yeah yeah and then fumble no yeah i mean that's on the that's on the center too that's on the center come on that's the NFL now put the put put the snap at the media set it should be the snap the snap should come in the same area every single time you go through that all got damn week i mean like come on now
Starting point is 00:28:47 come on center don't don't don't do that don't do that a little man the ball hit the bat ball hit his ankles but so you know what it's just that you know take that take that take that take that away They got three points out of that. Give the defense credit because I thought the defense gave it one touchdowns and two field goals in the second half. They did force the three and out on the first possession of the second half, which is kudos. You know, you see, I think the Jets won the toss,
Starting point is 00:29:17 and they took the ball. They drove the ball right down the field, something they normally don't do. It normally ends in a punt or turnover, and they drove the ball. I think they had the ball like 14 plays and drove the ball and punched it in the end zone. But I just, Lord, I hope I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:33 But I just, I just, I just, I just don't see where he's ever going to be more than what he is. I don't think he's ever going to be turning to what. And that's okay, because everybody ain't going to be a Lamar Jackson. Everybody's not going to be Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes. But, I mean, I think if the Jets could be okay, if he was just like middle of the road, you just can't be, you can't be the bottom tier. I'm not saying you got to be top tier. But, I mean, if we got that kind of, if we got, Chad, you can see this.
Starting point is 00:30:00 If we got this much space, can you be somewhere in here and not be down here? In the middle. Right. Can we get that, Ocho? Mm-hmm. You know what else is all come down to? What's that? Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here.
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Starting point is 00:35:11 You have to be able to play with confidence in everything that you do. And one of the most important positions quarterback is the most important. The goddamn quarterback. It's the most important. Absolutely the most Because if you don't believe
Starting point is 00:35:23 Your body language Yeah Your aura is going to say If you don't believe I don't believe either I mean If you don't trust your skill Why you want me
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's why I used to get in the car Ocho that joke Somebody butt in their seatbelt Fast in their seatbelt Hell I fast in my seatbelt Hell I fast a mind you know something I don't Complete So
Starting point is 00:35:46 You can be I've been around quarterbacks when they walk into the huddle you know they know what the hell they do it. It's the way they carry itself. And they give you the confidence that you know what the hell you do it. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. I hope they get it together. I'm not sure what direction they're going to go in. But the way they've started so far and letting sauce go and letting
Starting point is 00:36:11 their rebukes. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Wait, listen. But who are you going to start over with the quarterback? Yeah, I believe so. You're going to start with a new quarterback? I believe so. You're going to draft another one? You're going to draft another one? I believe so.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I mean, I don't know if there's any quarterbacks that's going to become available. Yeah. Probably Sam Donald didn't want any parts of New York again, which I wouldn't blame him. You know, but look, I mean, every day seems like I hear a story about somebody that played there having an interaction with the owner and it's never positive and it's never good. Right. Yeah. And with that situation, I hope AG gets at least three years because it's not like you had a powerful roster begin with
Starting point is 00:37:00 and now you stripped him of his two best defensive players. So he's got to get at least two years. And without a quarterback, you can give him five years and he's still not going to get it done. Because you're not as hard. It's damn near impossible. And I know, well, y'all did it in $22,000 with the raid with Trent Dillfer. they don't allow you to play football like that.
Starting point is 00:37:19 No, absolutely not. You don't play football like that anymore. The rules are different. So, no, there's nobody winning another Super Bowl like we won it or like Tampa won it in 02. You're not because they won't allow you to play defense like that. Your quarterback is going to have to stand in the pocket and he's going to have to make plays throwing the effing football. Yeah, he's going to be able to use his legs to get out of harm's way some, but he's going to have to be able to throw the football. the days of oh we got a killer defense and we're going to run the ball no you're not no you're not you're not
Starting point is 00:37:52 you're not going to win very many games like that because once the team gets ahead on you once the team gets ahead of you 10 14 points and you can't run your way back into a game absolutely let me ask you this oh cho do you like kailer murray because i i believe there's i believe there's going to be a separation of church and state in in arizona uh-huh yeah most definitely because that i think Kyle Emery is healthy. I think he, me personally, I think he's healthy, but they're continuing to want to go with Jacoby Brissette based on how he look and how the offense move with him, you know, the few weeks he's been in. If they do part ways with him, I'm sure Kyle Emery will be somewhere else next year. Yes, for sure. How would it look over in New York? I'm not sure. I'm not
Starting point is 00:38:38 sure if it's a fit. It all depends on AG. Obviously, outside of AG, you got to go to the high higher powers and see if that's something that they want to look into? Or do you want to go into the draft? Now, when you think about some of the quarterback coming into the draft, you know, this year, is there a franchise altering quarterback that can come in there and change a franchise? I haven't seen anything like that this year. There have been some that have played good, but nothing that just blows you out the water. Like, you know, with that guy, we got to have him. I agree. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it either, Ocho. So we'll see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:39:14 The Pittsburgh Steelers, stay at the top of the AFC North, thanks to a 34-12 victory. Although Aaron Rogers left the game, what many believed to be a crack in his, a break in his wrist. Mason Rudolph came in, finished 12 or 16, 1-27 of the touchdown. He relieved Aaron Rogers, who was not a 15, 116, and a touchdown. They won 34 to 12, but that was not the story of the game. Something happened late in the ball. game. Jalen Ramsey was ejected for punching
Starting point is 00:39:48 T. Not T. Higgins. Jamar Chase in the face. They asked Chase, excuse me, they asked Jalen Ramsey what happened. Okay, we got boc. Okay, let's take a listen to what Ramsey said after the game.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He's filming, so it's up. I'm going to get fucking about football after that, respectfully. Okay, here's what Chase said. Walk us through what happened with the jail? Um, exchanging words. You were saying that you spit on him, did you spit on him? I ain't ever opened my mouth to that guy.
Starting point is 00:40:31 What do you think prompted the reaction from him with? Well, you don't like some of those words I told him. We've been going back and forth the whole time, so I'm sure some got on this. Yeah. Ocho, all good. Here, here. We got, we got, we got, we got, we got, Austin Brisket, briskey, briskey.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Austin Briskey, Fox 19, he got it all on tape. Let's take a look at this, Ocho. Cho, that's your guy. I've met him a few times. I like Chase. He's the best receiver in football, but he spit on Jalen Ramsey. And everybody knows I've been abundantly clear where I am.
Starting point is 00:41:28 The most disrespectful thing you can do. Yeah, we know the N-word. We know the connotations and what it summons up. But my grandfather used to always say, she said, boy, you don't spit on the, if you're telling me I'm the ground, That is the lowest thing you can do. Ocho, he spit on that man.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And he lied. And Jalen Ramsey said, Jailen Ramsey said he spit on me. So it's up after that. F football after that point. Take it away. I mean, Uno, y'all know how I feel about Uno.
Starting point is 00:42:01 You know how I feel about Jamar. And, you know, I'm rarely critical of players. Very rarely. It takes a lot for me to be critical of someone. But this is one of those situations where I got to let Chase know, boy, you're there wrong. As much as I love you, you can't do that. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 You can be angry. You can be mad. You can say what you want to say to a player on the field. But you can't spit on nobody, bro. Young boy, you can't spit on nobody. Obviously, you know, cooler heads will prevail. But in those situations like that, when you're angry, I know you're frustrated. The game might not be going your way.
Starting point is 00:42:38 You're not getting the ball. The way you want to get the ball. You know how these division games go. uh situations like this happen all the time especially when it's bangle steelers it's just like this it's tight it's tight you get angry you get frustrated but you can't you can't you just you just can't you know as much as i love you i'm i'm disappointed obviously in your actions i'm i'm gonna talk i'm gonna talk to you i haven't had the chance today you know i'm i'm i'm i don't want to bother you but if you look back you think about it you probably won't be
Starting point is 00:43:07 in this situation again uh knowing the NFL and in the way they discipline their probably suspend you for a game and, you know, it'll probably never happen again. It'll probably never happen again but this is something you just can't do. Young Bull, you can't, you can't do this, you can't. Just on it.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Just say, you know, my emotions, hey, Jalen, I'm sorry. My emotions got the best of me. When emotions are high, logic is low. Ram, I'm sorry. I let my emotions get the best of me. Y'all, I was wrong. I was dead-ass wrong for what I did.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It's hard to do something now publicly, Ocho, and nobody sees it because everybody got the cameras everywhere, huh? Because, Ocho, if they're having a conversation, and you know, hey, sometimes when I get excited, I have to, man, I'm sorry, I ain't mean to spend it.
Starting point is 00:43:59 We've all done that. We get excited. We start talking and we accidentally and spray them. But that wasn't no spray, Ocho. That was not no spray. That was not a spray. And he did it and he lied. to reporters. And he said, I ain't open my mouth. You did, Chase. You're wrong, bro. You're wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:18 And I know that's not. What you did, I'm not going to define you by that. But you did that. I don't believe in no show that that, that, see, the worst thing that a person done, that is, that, that's who we, that who, now obviously
Starting point is 00:44:35 we got repeat offenders. But there's nothing in his history. There's nothing in his background that would suggest this is not. he is. So I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. Now the NFL, they got to sit you down. They've got to sit you down for a game. That's the least they can do.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Jalen Ramsey, you're going to get fine, a little fine, but they're not going to suspend you. Because your suspension was you got kicked out of the game. That was your punishment. And you're going to get fine. You'll probably get fined, I don't know, 12,000, 25,000, something like that.
Starting point is 00:45:07 But, Chase, you're going to get suspended. And I don't know why, Chase. I don't know. Ocho, and I've been mad, Ocho, I know you've been mad at people. I've been mad at people. I could, but to spit on somebody, do you know how disrespectful,
Starting point is 00:45:23 how degrading that is? As a black man, Chase, you know the history in Louisiana in the South? That's what they used to do to your grandpa, your great grandpa, your great grandma.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Yeah. When they was trying to integrate the schools, Come on, Chase, we got to be better than that. We can't do that to each other. I get it. Yeah, we get upset. Yeah, we get angry. But come on, we got to do better than that when it comes to each other.
Starting point is 00:45:53 For us, I might disagree with something you said. I might not like what you said. And like I said, hey, but I can't. I cannot do that because what happens is, Ocho, if you spit on somebody, whatever that individual does to you after that, I'm good. with. Yeah. If they, whatever, whatever, if you
Starting point is 00:46:17 spit on somebody, and that goes for a family member or the anybody, if you spit on somebody, whatever that person does to you after that, oh well. You're right. Because, Ocho, the thing is, you get to control your actions. You don't get to control the consequences that
Starting point is 00:46:38 comes from your actions. You're right. You're right. I'm just disappointed because he would have been the last person I would have thought that would do something like this like I said I've been around him half a time not like you Ocho
Starting point is 00:46:51 I don't know like you but he was all you know guys normally when they see me they respect for what's going on how you do it blah blah blah but man damn I mean and then and I want and I want
Starting point is 00:47:02 and I wanted to believe because like I said I've been around Ram a little bit but and he's not like I said not the little bit time I'd been around him and what I seen him, you know, we did him a couple of times. He don't strike the other guy to just make some up. Honestly, you got to think, you got to think these boys, especially when they come to Jalen,
Starting point is 00:47:18 when they come to Uno, you know, I'm around these fellas consistently all the time, you know, whether it's working out, whether it's hanging out, whether it's Eden, I hang out, I hang out with Jalen when he was down here in Miami. And obviously, you know, my relationship with Chase, you know, since he got drafted, now that's something even even more close. And none of these individuals are like that. but emotions get the best of us at sometimes. Sometimes we make mistakes.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And I've been in situations we've mostly got the best of me. And I've done things that are totally out of my character, out of my character. It's totally uncharacteristic of who I am and what I represent and everything that I stand for. And I think this is one of those situations for Chase. This is something that happened where obviously logic was low because emotions were high.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I was upset. I'm frustrated. The game's not going well. then they got them trash talking me we going back and forth and it just got the best of them and I'm really not the one that's always that is in positions
Starting point is 00:48:18 to be the voice of reason but I'm probably one of the few people outside of family members that Uno will listen to he will listen to and actually listen and take heed to what I'm saying because I've been in situations
Starting point is 00:48:32 where we're not to this magnitude we're not thinking we're not thinking straight you know it can cost you you know now this is going to cost them it's not going to cost them you know as much as it did for me for being in the situation where my logic was low as hell i mean it was super low and it cost me a lot now this is just on the small scale still in a very disrespectful manner but that's why you're the perfect person to speak on this because you've been in a similar situation where emotion was high and logic was low and sometimes when the situation
Starting point is 00:49:04 like that we let our motion get the best of us and that's not who we are but it's not who we are but in that moment just for a second, you threw caution to the wind. We've all been there. And my thing is, Chase, you didn't have to lie. Everybody's going to look at you a certain way. But you'd say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:49:20 All you had to do is say, Ram, I'm sorry. You should have, hey, you should have made peace with that man. Hey, y'all get me Ram's number. I'm going to call him. I want to call him and tell him as a man. I say, bro, I'm going to tell him the world that I did. I was wrong. I was dead ass.
Starting point is 00:49:36 But I wanted to tell you first. man. Ram, I'm sorry, bro. That ain't me, bro. You know me. That ain't me. We're both competitors. You're fighting your ass off of your team. I'm fighting my ass off of my team and my emotions got the best of me. Ram, I'm sorry, bro. Man, I really hope you forgive me because I don't want your family to look at me in that light and I don't want my family to look at me in that light to know that I did something like that because I know my family would be very disappointing in me. So I'm coming to you as a man. But I'm going to tell you. the world, I did what I did. And I want to apologize to you as a man. I'd have got him in the
Starting point is 00:50:17 tunnel. I went to the tunnel. I said, bro, hey, I'm going to go. Look, I'm going to do my press conference, but I'm going to find Ram and say, I'm sorry. I would have. And I think he will. And, hey, that's between him and Ram. I don't have to know about it. Everybody's talking about, well, he did it. No, I'm good. Just apologize to the man. And we're going to keep on moving but just no man to Ocho they like when you and I first got in the league they got a couple of cameras bro they catching everything they catch everything and that's why you see guys cover their mouth when they talk to one another Ocho because guess what people trying to read lips y'all try to read exactly what Ocho are not talking about man it seemed like he said
Starting point is 00:50:56 remember when Jalen Brown was on the sideline and he and his girl and they was talking about Brody oh yeah yeah on the side yeah I remember that yeah they did read his lips that's right that's right remember that exactly exactly Exactly, exactly. And, like I said, hey, we're going to get this situation rectified, though. We're going to get it rectified. I know, I know, look, but let me ask you question, Ocho. The league got to step in because we, and it happened.
Starting point is 00:51:23 I mean, but to see, I mean, what, I think it's the second of the third time that this has happened this year. Yeah, we had with Jalen Carter, we won with the Cowboys. Jailor against that. I think there was another situation. Yeah, I'm not sure. it was college it was college jojo yeah yeah yeah but listen the league's gonna gonna step in they're gonna obviously discipline them it probably it probably probably a one game suspension i didn't i didn't i didn't call uno the night i didn't call him the night uh he got enough to deal
Starting point is 00:51:52 with as it is you know coming off a loss i allow 24 hours to go by so tomorrow you know i got to fly to new york tomorrow so when i fly to new york i'm gonna take that time out being that this is this is off day i'm sure they're probably going to watch film and i'm gonna catch him later on and even and uh and just just just talk to him a little bit about you know being able to to use logic even in situations where you when you're not in your right state of mind because at times it can cost you and i'm the perfect example of not using your your mind in the right state of mind and it's not going to cost you big this time but it costs me my whole career you know so so using that example with him in a small situation which was extremely disrespectful you know um
Starting point is 00:52:34 would be perfect because I'm, I'm just, I'm a prime example. Yep. Oh, Joe. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I told you. Before, we, we going, we going off the, uh, the Bengham game already? What you want to talk about? I don't, give it a big, but, y'all, I don't know what you want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Listen, uh, brother Darnell Washington. The way he made, oh, listen, the way, hey, hey, he pissing me off, man. He's supposed, hey, you're supposed to be playing with the, the goddamn Knicks or something. No, actually he's supposed to have a 70 number he's supposed to be an offensive tackle. Hey, oh. Oh, hey, I'm joking six, seven because
Starting point is 00:53:14 guess what he was, he got a job? Yes, you see how he moved. He's respectful. I'm like, why are you pushing on people like that? Why are you at tight end? Hey, hey, I, don't know watching it. Boy, you was bawling out tonight. All stiller fans, for those you that in the chat,
Starting point is 00:53:31 you know how I feel about you. I love you. I've always been respectful. showing sportsmanship and I've shown grace whether we won or whether we lost. I was always respectful. But Donette Washington, what you did to my teammates, I have to avenge them. So whenever
Starting point is 00:53:44 I see you in public in the off-season, just know we're going to squabble. We're going square up and we're going to fight. Well, boy, you had a hell of a game, boy. You had a hell of a game. Salute to y'all. Still a fan. Congratulations on your win today. I love y'all. Y'all got it. I hope Aaron Rogers is okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 If he's not okay, I think it's his non-thowing hand. I think something his rest is not throwing him that might be broke and Rogers do me a small favor put you a hard cast on now put your hard cast on now and let's play ball next week now let's play ball next week we could play with that whether it's a small break a little break or oh you i don't know why you're talking about our team why you're not even a stealer why i'm saying well that's not your team they're in the afc north so i feel compelled to be able to so all the raiders my team my team Hold on. Listen, I feel compelled to support them because my team is out right now.
Starting point is 00:54:41 That's all. Oh, your team beat, I've been told you that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. I've been told you that. Don't do that. Because if we won the day, if we had won the game today, we would have had a chance. But I told you you weren't going to win. I told you you're going to lose your next.
Starting point is 00:54:56 I told you how many games, Chad, how many times did y'all hear me telling? Ocho, y'all about to lose out. And although the window is open, Joe Burrow is back. practice a little head of schedule 21 day the 21 day window is open he ain't coming back come back for what it's all good it's all good it's all good
Starting point is 00:55:14 it's all good it's all good in a battle of 7-2 teams that would give the winner's sole possession the first place in the NFC West Sam darner through one two three four
Starting point is 00:55:29 I and T's no touchdown passes and Seattle lost 2119 to the Rams. Darno delivered his worst performance of the season. The Seahawks entered week 11 NFL's third highest scoring team despite 16 turnovers including
Starting point is 00:55:46 10 by Darnel, which is tied for the second most, but they couldn't survive four more giveaways today. Yo? Have you lost any faith? Absolutely. Sam Donald was 29-44,
Starting point is 00:56:01 279, 0 touchdowns, for IMTs. Absolutely not. No faith at all. Listen, the fact that he do for, for I and T's, they only lost 21, wait, they only lost, what,
Starting point is 00:56:12 2119, huh? 2119, only lost 2119. Okay, Sam Donnie, you had a bad day. You had a bad day. You've been playing great. You've been playing great all season long, you know?
Starting point is 00:56:22 Quarterbacks won't have games like this. Quarterbacks are going to have games like this, and this is your one. Let's get it out of our system now. Let's get it out of our system now, you know, and going forward, let's get back to the regularly schedule program on how we've been flowing offensively very smooth
Starting point is 00:56:39 you've been running the ball through the air we've been great yeah him and him and uh jackson had another good day to day and jill would i think in jibba had what nine for 106 yeah yeah yeah nine for 105 you know you look good in that area and i think if you if you're great man he just going he's going hey stupid crazy dude gonna get two thousand hotel he probably he will he probably he probably he had 12 he had 12 hold on they got seven games to go. He's at $1,200, over $1,200 now. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, how many yards does the JSCN have? He hit the thousand yard mark, I think last week, a week before last. Oh, yeah, yeah, he over that. He got 1146. So he needs, he needs, so he's
Starting point is 00:57:24 in 72, 72 catches. So he's, so he's, so he's 72 catches. So he's, so he's averaging. So he's, so he's average of seven catches a game. Damn. And he going to have about two or three games. He go crazy, though. So he definitely, he, the game last week when they were blowing everybody out and he came out, that was a game. He need games like where they're close and they're going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:57:52 So that way he's going to be in there and he'll get a, he'll get a 10, 12, 13, 14, catch game, 185, 200. Because you got to have, you need one game, Ocho, where you get, Yeah. 215, $2.20, yeah. Because I think that was the year that Megatron.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Was that the year the Megatron broke that record when he had that 329 against the Cowboys? Remember he had the 329 against the Cowboys? Yeah, he was going crazy that day, boy. And then he needed
Starting point is 00:58:20 329, he needed eight yards. No, he needed 10 yards, 11 yards. Yeah. Yeah. The break, Flip. Because Flip got, oh, I think,
Starting point is 00:58:32 well, Flip got three, 36. Yeah, flipper Anderson. Yep, 336. That's the record. So I was like, damn, he's going to get the record. That's a lot of yards, I don't know, boy. That's a lot of- Flip were crazy on the Saints on that Sunday night. Hey, that's a lot of yards, man. Shoot, who-io, who- I play, I, actually, I play with him for a while he came in. What Julio had, Julio had against the Carolina Panthers. He had, 300. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Flip-redders, yeah. Oh, that's crazy. Flip only came, flip came out in, in 88. Flip came out in 88. He came out of my brother. Mm-mm. He came out of my brother. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Because it was Tim, my brother, Mike Irvin, Aaron Cox, Anthony Miller, Flipper Anderson, Farrell Leibman's was a tight-in drafted. Keith Jackson, Old Nellie, from Oklahoma, was a tight-in that was drafted. yeah he came up my brother's second round pick yeah Aaron Cox was the uh Aaron Cox was the first round pick but look Matthew Stafford again two touchdowns no interceptions
Starting point is 00:59:47 clean game now he has how many touchdowns does Aaron Matthew 7 like 25 he like 25 and 27 27 and 2 now I think 27 and should be ask Ash if I'm right Yeah, I was right, yeah, 272, yeah. He's going to win the MVP. Yeah. Damn, unless Jonathan Taylor come out and have two. Let's Jonathan Taylor go crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:16 And he still can because he's a threat to get 200. Hey, would I be surprised if he got 200 had two, two more, two more, uh, 200 yard games? No. 180, 190, no. Stafford ever won MVP before? No, huh? never yeah they they they they they they they they're gonna get to him i think he just said he finished he got one vote he finished eight was the best he's finished and you know it's funny
Starting point is 01:00:42 remember staffer was hurt all training camp uh-huh he's back yeah uh didn't he didn't he sign a deal this offseason didn't he got to sign a three-year deal for like a hundred and twenty something hey i i think i think he preserved i think he preserved that arm from training camp. No, he can play. I mean, he's a great guy, having met the guy, his wife. Two year 84.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So 42 meal. Hey, hey, give me a tack on another year. If I win the MVP, tack on another year. 80 guarantee. Yeah. But, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:33 They're doing it, man. Hey, the Rams were good. But I remember having this conversation. I said, No, Cho. And we're going to talk about the Packers here in a second. But I was like, are we sure? Are we sure, even with Micah, the Packers are better than the Rams? Are we sure they're better than the Eagles?
Starting point is 01:01:49 And I was one that stood on the table for the Packers, that they are better or just as good if Jordan Love is playing football the right way. If he's playing the quarterback position the way I know we can play it. if he's not then it's looking it's looking shady it's looking ugly but if he plays the way I know it can play
Starting point is 01:02:10 to me it's damn near even The Packers pulled out a 20 2720 win over the Giants your love overcome your shoulder injury somebody forgot to tell him
Starting point is 01:02:28 he's not Derek Henry shouldn't be but anyway after scoring just 20 points combined in their previous two games lost against the Panthers and the Eagles 1613 lost to the Panthers. 10-7 lost
Starting point is 01:02:38 to the Eagles, the Panthers hit their magic number of 27. They've scored exactly 27 points, not a point more, not a point less, and five of their six wins this season to improve to 6, 3, and 1. Joy and Love, 13 to 24, 174,
Starting point is 01:02:55 two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball. Romeo, Romeo, wherefore thou hands, Romeo. Christy Watson came up big today, had a big time catch, a big time tough contested catch. That was really the difference in the ball game.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And then Michael Parsons' coat closed it out with a strip sack. That ended it, he ended up having a sack and a half. Listen, a lot of people are going to say, James through interception. That's on Jaylon Hyatt. I don't know why. You cannot.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He stopped. He stopped. Yeah. If you got an outbreak around, I don't give a damn if the corner is outside of you. You can't pull up because the corner is out there because the quarterback is throwing it on anticipation. He don't know that you're going to pull up, so he's throwing it where he anticipates you to be. You can't do that. You can't do that.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Oh, my goodness, do you can't? This why I can't, Chad, now y'all see why I can't coach. Hey, that's a teaching lesson. That's why you should be coaching because you. I ain't got to teach you that. You know that. You can't pull up on a damn. You got to know that.
Starting point is 01:04:03 You can't allow the body or the person there to deter you from getting to your position. If anything, if you got the corner route and he's already sitting out there, you want to beat him to the punch. Beat him to the position. Put your body, put your body in between the ball and him.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Or be able to break it up. Either if he knocks it down or you make a play on it, one or the other. But you can't pull up. Guess what? And when I knock it down, guess what I'm going to do, Ocho? Straight out.
Starting point is 01:04:32 either way you got to get yourself a chance in that in that situation you got to give you got to give your quarterback a chance you got to help your quarterback out there yes oh my goodness these guys bro i see so many guys all the time mojo the guys running the guys running an end breaking route where the guys inside he pull up like the quarterback you're like oh he gonna pull pull up because the guy said no you got to go you got to go get it collide him you got to break that up because if you don't it's going to be a pick which it was I'm like, George, have mercy. I mean, listen, they'll be.
Starting point is 01:05:08 James, what was James today? James was 19 or 29, 2.01. One touchdown. He was sacked twice. Tracy ran hard in the absence of Scatibu. 19 carries 88 yards. Singletary had 16 for 44. 38 rush attempts, 142 yards.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Enum head coach Mike Kafka claimed closed but was unable to get a win. But Jordan Love was 13 to 24. 74, two touchdowns. Josh Jacobs was injured in this game and did not return, so that's the injury that we're probably going to need to pay attention to, and to see how serious
Starting point is 01:05:44 that injury is. Bears beat the Vikings 1917 with the game ending field goal set up by Devin Devin Duverne, a 56-yard kickoff return, J.J. McCarthy in accuracy, doomed the Viking. McCarthy completed 16 to 32 passes for 150 yards. but he had two interceptions.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Most of his past attempts were affected by pressure. The bearers blitzed on fewer than 40% of the snaps, and the four-man rush only reached JJ 3 of 19 snaps. Oh, Joe. J.J. McCarthy, 16 or 32, 1.15th, I mentioned, one touchdowns, two interception. He wasn't sacked, but he didn't be good. Jefferson had five catcher 61 yards,
Starting point is 01:06:28 Hawkinson was three for 39, Addison was two for 20, Naila won a 16, but he did catch a touchdown. They didn't run the ball. Chicago says, you know what? We're going to see if you can do. They returned the favor. Remember the first game? It was McCarthy, that game-winning drive.
Starting point is 01:06:47 They ended up beating the Bears. Kayla Williams is getting more and more comfortable. He had 16 to 32, 193. He didn't throw a touchdown. He didn't have an interception. He had a fumble, but it was recovered. They ran the ball 39 times for a buck. 40, nothing outstanding, but, man, he's hard to get, look, they, they got two sacks
Starting point is 01:07:06 on him. They probably should have had him about five or six times, though, Joe. How he gets out of those predicament sometimes, he gets into the body there. Hey, listen, one of the few quarterbacks in NFL, Unk, that can extend plays, he can play off script, you know, and obviously when a player's call, he's one of those when the play breaks down, he can make something out of nothing. He can make something out of nothing. And you add, you add that talent that he always.
Starting point is 01:07:31 already has, you know, the escapability, the ability to extend plays with the creativity of Ben Johnson isn't. It's a match made in heaven. There's a reason why they are where they are. There's a reason why their record looks like it looks. And I understood what would happen when you get a head coach like Ben Johnson and you put him with a talent like Caleb Williams, there's a reason why they're having success this year.
Starting point is 01:07:56 He's done very well, not turning the ball over. He's not turnover prone as opposed to how he was last. year and they plan well. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the Bears are in first place in that division. Yeah, how you know? Because the Lions lost tonight, the Lions are 6 and 4, they're 7 and 3. What did I tell you? Who are the two teams I told you to watch out for before the season started when I talked to you in August?
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah. The Bears and the Panthers, I told you. I'm telling you I know what I'm talking about when to come to this game of football. I know what I'm talking about. talk about. Brock Purdy. We're going to go to the 49. Brock Purdy threw three touchdown in his return from a toll injury as the 49ers
Starting point is 01:08:38 Cruz 4122 over the sloppy cards. Purdy completed 19 or 26 passes for just 200 yards, but Christian McCaffrey extended his NFL record with his 17th career game at least one running touchdown and a catching and a receiving touchdown. The Cardinals were called
Starting point is 01:08:56 for a franchise record 17 penalties, which was almost was the most for any team in an NFL season this season. They had 11 penalties in the first half which was tied for the most before halftime for any team over the last 20 years.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Jacoby Brissette started his fifth game. He was 47 and 57. That's crazy. Two touchdowns, but he did have two interceptions. They didn't run the ball. They couldn't. He had two receivers. Wilson, 15 catches.
Starting point is 01:09:30 85 yards. McBride, 10, 115. Dorch, 6 for 66. So, he was throwing it all over the place, but unfortunately those two turnovers undeaded. Brock Purdy, 19 or 26, 200 yards, three touchdowns. McCaffrey had 13 carries, 81 yards, two touchdowns. Ryan Robinson, Jr. had 8 for 24. Kimmer. Greg, George Kimmel. Six catchers, 67 yards, two touchdowns. Juan Jennings, four for 54. Christian McCaffrey, five for 40. a touchdown uh don't look but the uh 49 of the seven and four after dealing with all the injuries that they've had cow still has the right thing about it is everybody's getting healthy at the right time everybody getting healthy at the right time and they're going
Starting point is 01:10:18 hit their stride at the right time we're going into we going into the we're going into the we're going into the in december huh coming up huh wait we in november are we Yeah, oh yeah, perfect timing Perfect timing Oh, Cho Jacobi Berset started his fifth game He completed a 47, 57-57-past That's a record, huh?
Starting point is 01:10:41 The 47 completions are the most completions In an NFL game in regulation That boy, hey, he's dealing that thing, boy He dealing. He's dealing. It didn't come with a win But one thing about Jacoby, he could sling that thing.
Starting point is 01:10:59 The Eagles are the number one seed, eight and two. The Rams, number two seed, eight and two. Chicago Bears, the number three seed, seven and three. Tampa would round out the division winners at six and four, and then you have the Seahawks at seven and three to fifth seed. Green Bay at six three and one, the sixth seed. The 49ers are seven and four, the seventh seed. Right now, Detroit would be on the outside looking in,
Starting point is 01:11:26 as would the Panthers, Vikings, Cowboys, Arizona, and Atlanta commanders and the Saints so right now the Detroit Lions are the 8th seed jeez but the 49ers
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