Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 12 Part 1: Malik Nabers DISSES entire Giants coaching staff, Chip Kelly FIRED, Eagles a DISASTER waiting to happen?!

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the biggest NFL storylines of the week! The guys react to the Giants’ overtime loss to the Lions! Unc and Ocho break down Giant...s WR Malik Nabers criticizing the team’s play-calling on X, the Raiders firing OC Chip Kelly, Cowboys scoring 24 unanswered and much more! 0:00 - Malik Nabers disses Giants coaching staff15:12 - Texans upset Bills30:29 - Raiders fire Chip Kelly34:21 - Rams DOMINATE Buccaneers, Mayfield injured37:57 - Cowboys shock Eagles with 24 unanswered points51:21 - Bears defeat Steelers (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:02 Giants interim head coach Mike Kafka helped Detroit, too. Kafka went forward on fourth and goal from the sixth when his team slumping leading by three. Instead of kicking a short field goal that would have forced Detroit to score a touchdown. Giants, Malik Walker, let his frustration be known on Twitter as Bleak neighbors. What did I say? Bleak neighbors. let his frustration be known on Twitter as he called out his team's decision
Starting point is 00:03:27 making against the Giants overtime. This is what he tweeted, Ocho. Sometimes I think they'd be making us lose on purpose because ain't no way for you to throw the ball instead of running it and make them burn them two timeouts.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Then you don't kick the field goals. Then you have to go down to score. Football common sense. The tweet was quickly deleted. First, Jemir Gibbs, Ocho. Man, this is college. You don't normally run the ball 15 times for 219 yards.
Starting point is 00:04:00 15 for 219, 2 touchdowns. And then he caught another 11 for 45 on 12 targets. Armid Roth St. Brown had 9 for a buck 49 and a touchdown. They look, James 18 or 36, 366, 2 tubs, one pick. Gunner O'Shefsky hit a, man. man, what you call him, water that touchdown so bad? Who, James? James wanted that touchdown so bad.
Starting point is 00:04:29 He wasn't going down. Nah, hell, no. He wasn't going down. But James so funny, Unk, man. Just having him out there on the field, man. Playing with such a smile. He's so entertaining, so infectious. You know, I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Obviously, I'm not sure if he started next week. But if he is starting next week, again, I'm going to be tuned in. I'm going to be tuned in because just seeing him out there, man. it brings just a joy for me, you know, as someone that can't play the game anymore, I get the vicariously living through watching him play, man. But, hey, that young bull, Juan Dale Robinson, one day. He had himself a day, nine for a buck, 56, in a tub. Boy, you showed up today, boy.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Boy, you showed up the day. I don't know where you've been, but they need to give you more targets. They need to continue to put you in positions to make them plays. God damn, boy, you was cutting the day, boy. the real deal. And the guy that closed the deal at the end of the game, Aidan Hutchinson got the sack
Starting point is 00:05:29 to preserve the victory. Ocho, we're starting to see a shift. We're starting to see athletes publicly question their own team. Whereas before Ocho, we might get like, damn, I don't know what that call was about. Man, I don't know what that was. Right, right, right. I don't know why we did that at that
Starting point is 00:05:47 situation. But these guys, as you saw, Maloney's, league neighbors. He put it out there like, bro, what the hell are you doing? Run the football, make them burn them timeouts, kick the field goal, we go up by six, now they need to score a touchdown in order to beat us. Yeah, I don't
Starting point is 00:06:03 understand. I'm confused. I was thinking it, I mean, I wouldn't tweeted it for my team, but can you please explain the reason on why they would do that? No, offer without explanation. I guess he's saying, look, man. He's not wrong. Oh, Cho.
Starting point is 00:06:20 We, we two and nine. we two and nine we got opportunity to beat the Detroit Lions that's how he's looking at it but your defense has done a great job up until that point mm-hmm very good job I'm gonna kick the field goal maybe if at the one-yard line oh cho I would I would consider it but not from the six not from the six that's crazy now if we're at the one-yard line we got scat-pack I'm gonna give it the scat-pack I'm gonna give it to scat-pack I'm gonna give it got a bow. But in this situation like this,
Starting point is 00:06:56 I get the frustration. Mike Kafka, the interim head coach is like, man, look here, we're, hey, we're going for it. But they played, I mean, they played as well as they, they played as well as they could. Uh-huh. For as long as they could. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:07:15 And it wasn't enough, Ocho. Listen, it wasn't enough, honestly, the Giants fought, boy. That was a very exciting game, a game that I thought the Giants were going to continue to pull away from. I thought they were going to keep pulling away, but they, and them goddamn lions wouldn't go nowhere, man. That goddamn Jamir Gibbs might be the closest thing we have in today's game that's similar to Chris Johnson. That's what I was about to say. He's out, how are you outrunning the goddamn angle?
Starting point is 00:07:49 How you outrun the angle? The angle 20 yards deep. You're not supposed to be able to do that unless you really, really, you've got to be Tyreek fast. I'm thinking he might be up there with Tyreek when it comes to speed. Ocho, I think for me, I was like, when he hit through the hole, I say, boy, if somebody don't, if somebody don't, you cannot let, he's a guy that good with that kind of speed, Ocho, you got to make him chop his feet.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah, you can't let him stop. You got to. First of all, he's already eight yards deep. You're going to let him hit the hole. You're going to let him get to the line of scrimmage. He's damn there in a full sprint. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He's damn to the full sprint.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So now, by the time he gets to where the lineback is supposed to be. Yeah. It's a wrap. And the safety, the old choke cut, the safety, I don't want to over, I don't want to overrun him and then have him cut back. So I got to try to, I got to try to, I got to try to, I got to try to damn. He and the end zone. It's too late.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It's too late, huh? because listen once some guards come off and they engage and goddamn Jamirki and get to that second level clean you done as a safety if you ain't closed the gap you have no choice you got to shoot you got to shoot because if he square you up or he catch an angle unless you got you got to be just as fast as him in order to catch him yeah it ain't got no safety
Starting point is 00:09:11 they ain't got no safety as fast as him I wonder what it's I wonder what his speed hit he hit 22 miles an hour you think so I think So, yeah. Yeah, he had to, especially, especially on that long one. He had to. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 He, hey, man, he's special, special. Nice. He got to be over a thousand yards now, isn't he? After the night, after the night, after the night, he definitely got to be over a thousand. He got to be. Because he just went crazy. Didn't he go crazy last week? A week before, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 951. Damn, that's it? Yeah. We'll have it updated because we don't know if it's included today because he's been he's been doing something kind of special.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Jack, Seagulls, Falcons. Damn, I can't believe the Bengals lost, man. I can't. It's the Bengals. We almost had that game, though. Oh. Jamil Gil's about to get paid.
Starting point is 00:10:28 This year three. Isn't this his third year? It is? It includes today. Yeah. Yeah. But he ain't got nearly the carriers that those other guys got. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Man, that's what's happened, Ocho, you know what it is, Ocho. When you lose, you find ways to lose. Yeah. Teams that win find ways to win. To win, yeah. The Giants just found another way to lose. I mean. Hey, that play call that was iffy, I'm just going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I'm going to, this, this is why people question. This is why people question some time. You heard me? Uh, with games like the day of the decision making Uh-huh This is why they question
Starting point is 00:11:25 If the games be rigged or not Because why would you Why would you Make the decisions that you made You know And now you got your own player Calling it out
Starting point is 00:11:35 And I think he deleted it right away Because somebody Oh he did But hey Elcho You know what happened When you press sin Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:42 You can't get it Somebody done screenshot It's too late Yeah Too late then You can't even And you can't press in And then put delete
Starting point is 00:11:51 You can't hit it fast enough I just I don't I'm I'm with Malik though Like what are you doing Like what Yeah I'm with Malik I'm with Malik
Starting point is 00:12:03 To myself Or to my family Yeah I ain't gonna say it I ain't say it I can't put that out there Oh choh Uh huh Hell nah
Starting point is 00:12:14 But man Gives was sensational today man This dude is, he's ridiculous. He's ridiculous. He's nice with it. He up there and catches because I think this is second double-digit. How many catches he got? Because remember the other day, Ocho, he had 140-some yards receiving.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Seven. In like 80 yards, like 70-80 yards rushing. You know what he like? He damn near like he's a dual threat like Christian, Christian McCaffrey. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got more speed of McCaffrey, though. Oh, yeah, absolutely, of course. Ain't even close.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah, he got speed to burn. Ocho, Caleb Williams throws for three touchdowns as the Bears beat the Steelers, 3128 with Aaron Rogers on the sideline. Rogers is 25 and 5 against the Bears from the long tenure in Green Bay counting the playoff. He once famously turned the crowd at Soldier Field and scream that he still owns Chicago,
Starting point is 00:13:10 but he didn't get an opportunity to play today to show off that's still the case. Instead, the NFC North leading Bears eight and three, one for the eighth time in nine games. Caleb Williams, 19 or 35, 239, three touchdowns. They didn't run the ball, about four yards of carry. DJ Moore had five catches, 64 yards, two touchdown. Dunezay had some big catches.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Loveland, four for 49 a touchdown. Bird in the third, three for 46. Man, he looked good. Bears look good. Ben Johnson got this team playing. got that defense getting after the quarterback. I will say this, Ocho. I'll say this.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Hold on, hold on. Tell me, tell me, tell me, take your time. Caleb, you got to know when the journey's over. Oh. You can't give up, you can't give up seven points on your possession. Oh, the safety with T.J. White? You got sacked, you know, Watt sacked him and he lost the ball. You can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:10 You can't put your team in harm's way like that. Go ahead, go ahead and throw the ball away. I mean, he's tremendous. He can throw from the pocket. He can throw a rolling right. He got great legs and get out of harm's way, but you can't do that. Other than that,
Starting point is 00:14:25 I thought you played really, really, really well today. Go ahead, Joe. Now, I was just going to say, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams together has been magic. It's been pure magic. The bears have been abysmal, you know, the past few seasons.
Starting point is 00:14:39 And obviously, they've always been, they've been struggling at the quarterback position, Jubisky, Brother Fields. But now, now, you know, even though there were so many people that were doubting Caleb Williams, not understanding if you get the right coach, if you get the right coach that has the right play calling and can play to his strengths and maximize his potential at that position, this is what you get. You get, you get a Bears team that's leading their division. Wait, they are leading the division, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, what are they? A nine and three?
Starting point is 00:15:10 Uh, eight and three. Okay. Eight and three. A, that might be a team too you don't want to see. That might be a team you don't want to see. You're going to play all the time. But they've played extremely well. They got a quarterback that's mobile. There's a chance that they're going to have a home game.
Starting point is 00:15:28 You ain't really trying to, are you really trying to be out there and so you're trying to be outside? In that weather? Yeah. Absolutely not. That wind coming off Lake Michigan ain't nothing to play with now. That's that bird. that's that bone chilling cold.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And one thing about it, when it is cold like that, you might not be able to run the ball. It's cold and windy. You might not be able to throw the ball like you want to. Yeah. But give Chicago credit. They've, uh, look. And I said this when they got to,
Starting point is 00:16:05 I remember having this conversation. They're like, oh, I wouldn't take a quarterback. I got Justin Fields. I said, they passed on a quarterback. You think they're about to pass on the number one overall quarterback? back-to-back years because they had, remember, they traded that Ocho to Carolina. So Carolina could select Bryce Young. I say, you actually think they're going to pass back-to-back years on the number
Starting point is 00:16:25 and overall quarterback, you do realize the reason why they're in this position, this quarterback that he got. They're moving on. Oh, you think, I don't think I know. He's good. He's really, really good. And they've done a great job. they've done a great job of Ocho and getting them talent.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You look at D.J. more. They extend D.J. more. They get Roma Dunezay. They got two tight ends with Cole Coment and Loveland. They get Burton the third in the draft. They get swift. I like what they've done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Offensive line. They rebuilt the offensive line, Ocho. Mm-hmm. They got, they're going to be good. They can be good for me. Now, that's not the easy division because you got the Packers in that division with a young quarterback. You got
Starting point is 00:17:17 Detroit with golf and Gibbs and Armand Rod and James and Williams, and they got an outstanding defense in Detroit. Yeah. I don't know. Don't forget them weapons dying in Chicago now. That's what I say. I say they're going to be good for me. I was talking about them. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:22:51 eight sacks, two pick, one fumble recovery, countless, countless pressure. They probably would have him another three or four times had it not been Josh Allen. Yeah. Because he got the ball out a couple of times, Ocho, and he was able to get out of harm's weight. but I thought they did an unbelievable job. Will Anderson, Jr. is about to get him a Hutchinson contract. Woo-hoo.
Starting point is 00:23:11 The Nail Hunter on one side. Will Landerson, Jr. You got Mario Edwards, Jr. You got Rankins. You have Barnett. They got a front that they can rotate guys in, Tuololo got in on the action. And the back end is solid.
Starting point is 00:23:26 You got Stingley, you got last. They're really, really good on the back end, but they're front four. They front six. Mm-hmm. is exceptional. And they did an outstanding job considering the offensive player of the week,
Starting point is 00:23:38 Josh Allen, three touchdown. There's only two men that's ever had three touchdowns rushing Ocho, three touchdown passes in the game. Otto Graham did it in 54 in the championship game. Josh Allen has done it twice. They made Josh Allen seem normal. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:23:54 They made him seem normal. And Josh Allen is anything but normal. And so I don't think that's the way Josh played tonight, that was all because of that Texas defense. I ain't nothing with you no more. Now, I told you, Josh Allen was supposed to have 255 yards. That's all I needed. Look what he got.
Starting point is 00:24:09 He had 253. That means he was under. I said he was going over. Before you go, Ocho, here's the Texas defense. Number one in total defense, first in points allowed, third in defense, third and third down percentage, third in pass defense, third in rush defense, fifth and takeaways. Take off.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Hey, listen, around the board, the Texas defense on. around the board on all three levels. The front, second level, and that back end is phenomenal. For one, I know what Will Anderson Jr. did tonight. I know how he looked tonight. But I want to give Kalan Bullock some love, right? I want to give Kalan Bullock some love,
Starting point is 00:24:47 two interceptions, forced fumble. He made Shakir fumble early in the third. At the way, they're in the third quarter, aren't you? I think it might have been the third. Caleb Bullock was all over the place, huh? He was all over the place. Will Anderson Jr.? They sacked Josh Allen eight times, huh?
Starting point is 00:25:02 It almost looked like what we consider Superman at most times with his ability to extend plays and play off script it looked like he didn't even be long out there. They kept him, they had him uncomfortable all game. He missed the... The kryptonite boys.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, basically, that's exactly what it was. And for me, for the Texans, right, if we can get to the offense it, a goddamn brother Mills, David Mills was only 16 for 30 with two T's. He only had 153 yards. He left some plays out there, Ocho. I know you saw it.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I know you saw what I saw. I was tweeting. I was like, bro, how many throws? How many TD throws are you going to leave out there? Oh, yeah. You got the guy open. You hit the guy in the back of the head. You got the guy.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm talking about that's the defender you hitting in the back of the head. He underthowing the ball. Yes. But listen, I'm not sure when C.J. Stroud comes back. But when he does, when he does, if that offense, if C.J. Stroud can elevate that offense and meet that defense just halfway. We don't need you to be top five in the NFL. Just meet him halfway.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It can be. scary it can be scary especially if they can get if they can get in that doorway and getting them playoffs but that's a defense that don't nobody want to see at all the defenses and that's the question offensively because this defense is as good as advertised demico rand does a great job of sitting the people i forget the uh the defensive coordinator that was calling the plays tonight miko turned a play calling over to him yeah but when you look at danelle hunter had two sacks Will Anderson Jr. had two and a half sacks, to a low low had a sack,
Starting point is 00:26:35 Tim Settle Jr. had a sack. Mario Edwards had half a sack. Barnett had a sack. I mean, hell, the only people that didn't get a sack was me and you. And I'm in New York and you in Miami. Hell, we'd have been to Houston. We might have got a half a sack together. And I got one more thing.
Starting point is 00:26:50 One more thing. For those of you that in the chat, I don't understand why officer coordinators do this, right? You understand how well your defense is playing. Yes. I think in the fourth quarter, toward the end of the third quarter, going ahead and into the into the fourth quarter you're getting you're getting all these turnovers right you're getting all these opportunities for the texans offensively
Starting point is 00:27:08 what is with the goddamn conservative play calling just because you have the lead why not be aggressive push your goddamn foot to the goddamn pedal and put the game away put the game away so it doesn't come to a nail batter a nail biter at the end where they got they run a goddamn pitching ladder on fourth and 27 and get it and have an opportunity to win the goddamn game It shouldn't even have to come to that if with them last three off of the series when you had the ball, you run the ball first down. You run the ball second down. And then it's third in nine and third and eight.
Starting point is 00:27:41 And it's damn they're hard to get. It's hard to get because you don't want to put that area in the field. It absolutely is. Yeah. And you don't want to put the ball in harm's way. So you don't call plays that can put the ball in harm's way on third down for brother David Mills, you know. Maybe if C.D. Strave was in there.
Starting point is 00:27:59 maybe the play calling is a little bit more aggressive because you trust him a little bit more with the football in his hands but like come on that's the defense is playing balls out put the game away when you got the opportunity six seven minutes in the game four minutes in the game you got the ball you run a damn ball three times in a row like come on man the defense know
Starting point is 00:28:19 they know that you don't trust david's meals so they know there's a better than 80% chance that you're going to run it so what do we call a run blitz on first down you stop you for no y'all no game. You see, it's plays like that, Ocho, and you had an opportunity. Kirk dropped one in the end zone. He was worried about his feet and forgot to catch the ball.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. Because Mills put it right in his hands, Ocho. He's trying to drag his feet. Now, if you go look at the adjustment Higgins had, Higgins had a play on the sideline, he's, bro, you got to Ocho, we're going to say pause. You got to go limp. Ocho, you got to go limp on the sideline, Ocho, that's a catch.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Ocho, you can't put it any better. You can't take that full extended his last step. He get his right foot down and he tried to take a full left. No, you got to go limp there. That is really even though he had an opportunity and then he came later
Starting point is 00:29:11 in the fourth quarter. He had a sideline catch and he tow-tuffed it. In that situation, you got to go limp on the sideline, bro. You can't take that full extended step. You got to be self-aware. It's all about being self-aware and understanding where you are on the field, knowing how much
Starting point is 00:29:27 room you have. Yes. And one of the things that you do, once you come out that break, it's all about knowing where you are,
Starting point is 00:29:34 knowing when to allow the bodies to go limp to make sure you can ensure the catch and make sure you get to feed in. Because, first of all, you're probably,
Starting point is 00:29:43 at a situation like that, you're what, probably two, three yards outside the number. So you're going to speed cut it. You're going to hit 10 row to 12. So you already know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:54 There are some plays, the center for the Houston Texans. They drop Joy Bosa. They bring the linebacker from death. They got three guys blocking two. He lets 50 run right in the gap. Block it.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That's you. It's a perfect. You can't have for anything better. They drop one guy, shows go away. And now you got three guys. You got the center, guard and tackle.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. And the center and the guard, they're blocking two guys, one guy, and 50 come right up the gut. Yeah. Oh, that's perfect. Center. All you got to do is just push the guy
Starting point is 00:30:25 onto the guard. And you're like, come on 50. I'm going to hit you dead in your damn mile. Yeah. That's all you got and stuff like that. On the first play, they came out with kind of like a little blitz. And Shakira, okay,
Starting point is 00:30:37 secure comes in motion. He comes in short motion and then he bellies back. Okay, you brain pressure. God, you from depth, that is a punt returner. That is a kick returner. What do you think the likelihood from 15, 20 yards deep,
Starting point is 00:30:53 you are going to be able to tackle Shakur in a one-on-one situation in the open field it's not happening in the open field it's not happening i don't care if you come up under control i don't care if you come up and come to balance he's going to make you miss every time every time i got a better chance of catching the wind and that's not happening it's things like that on the on the hook and ladder i i'm like oh my goodness hey um really four you y'all not see the guys crossing y'all don't get it so y'all don't so ocho i'm in front of i'm It's kind of like I'm coming, I'm driving my car.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Oh, I see that guy, I see the guy about, that pedestrian about to get in the crosswalk. Yeah. Oh, I see this guy. But you know what? On that play, on the fourth and 27, when Palmer catches that ball, as aggressive. You know how aggressive that goddamn defense is. So they locked in. They took a B-line straight for Palmer and didn't even see the goddamn ladder.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Didn't even see the hook and ladder come around with Shakir, which is why they was able to get. Fourth of 27, ain't no goddamn plays for Fourth of 27. Seven? Ain't no playing for that. And also, and here's the thing is that the guy was trailing a Palmer. I mean, he's like, bro, you ain't fin to catch him. Everybody on that side got a rally to the football. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But they were able. And chat, you've heard me say it many times, the mark of any great unit, can you get done what you need to get done when you got to? Yes. At the end of the day, their best unit was, I want my best unit on the field, Ocho. So if I'm down three points, if I'm down and I need to get a touchdown, I want my best unit on the field. Yeah. If I need to get a stop, I want my best unit on the field.
Starting point is 00:32:37 So I would have trusted the defense to stop Josh Allen more than I would have trusted the Houston, Texas offense to go get a game winning field goal or something of that nature. So that's the unit that I want on the field. That is it. That's what I want. And that's what they got. And Miko probably say, hey, we go. want to lose this game. You, I mean, it had been heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:33:00 If they lost. If they lost. To lose that game in the final seconds. Now, we would look back, Ocho, we look back like, well, damn, the offense did have numerous opportunities. And they would have. But when you got those, you got those kryptonite boys, you got them
Starting point is 00:33:14 headhunters like they got out there. No, bro, I can't ask for a better situation. I won't Hunter. I won't Anderson. I won't settle. I won't Rankins. I want Edwards, Jr., I won't I won't Stingley. I won't last. I want you guys. I want you guys on the field. You put the game in the hand.
Starting point is 00:33:28 I don't want y'all. Come on, oh, come on, oh. I don't want that. I want y'all ass on the field. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I like it. Obviously, me being an officer guy, I prefer. You're going to want you, Carson, and DJ on the field.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Hold on, but this is the thing. I don't even want it to come down to the last few seconds. I want to put the game early when I had the ball with four, five minutes to go. Yeah, you could have made it 27. Hold on. Bingo. Yeah, you could have made it 27. 16.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So regardless of what they did, there was no way to come back. Regardless of what they did. So now we could relax on the sideline and just play defense. We ain't got nothing to worry about. But here we go. Nail Biter, at the end, now we have to rely on their defense. But again, as good as they are, there's a reason why they're number one. It's a reason why they're number one.
Starting point is 00:34:14 So I really enjoyed that. Well, I read, that was one good game. If I'm not mistaken, some of the Thursday night games have been doozies, huh? They've been snooze fest. They've been snooze fest. Yeah, but not the night. This was interesting game. This is a very good game.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Ocho. Bill's O'Line, they kicked your ass. They kicked your ass. Now, I think the right tackle ended up getting bench. Now, I didn't see him get hurt, but I know they had a right tackle adjustment. And Dawkins, who's their best offensive lineman, he got work tonight.
Starting point is 00:34:47 It happens. It happens to the best of us. We've all had moments in games where we were, hey, I was this, and Ocho, you've been that. And somebody get the best of us. Mm-hmm. As a unit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Offensive line pass, pro. They got work. They get a number on y'all. They work overtime on y'all ass. Yeah. They whipped your ass like y'all owe them money. Nah, I'm not sure if somebody made a, I don't know what went on. But when you do somebody like that, you whipping them like they owe you money.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Absolutely. Absolutely. Not the rent, do. Nah, he owe me money. I'm going to whip his ass. Boy, they gave him work. Yeah. Well, Anderson, Union, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:35:27 There was a third and 13, I think a third and 12, 13 situation. You've got to relay to your defensive tackle. If you go inside, you've got to tell him to loop. You both can't get inside because you both went inside and guess what happened? Josh Allen went outside and got the first down. They're back to open, yeah. You cannot do that. You've got to relay that.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I know you're quick. And I know like, ooh, I got his ass set up. I don't been beating him around the edge. you've kind of been beating them all. You beat him around the edge one time. You want next time, you spin him inside. So you're having your way with it. But I'm just saying, for future reference,
Starting point is 00:36:04 you've got to be careful at that. You've got to communicate with your DT. Hey, bro, check this out. Hey, I'm across his faith. You bubble outside. Yeah. I see, you know what? They got to communicate.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Matter of fact, that's a stunt. And if you call it a stunt, it has to be called in the huddle. They can't just make that up, you know. Make it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We can make it up Because I think so If I'm Dimeco Ryan
Starting point is 00:36:27 I trust I trust Will Landers Okay okay okay I trust him enough That I'm gonna give him The leeway I'm gonna give him the latitude Right But I need him to convey that
Starting point is 00:36:36 With the DT Is D tackle? Yeah yeah yeah Hey hey bro check this out We're gonna run a ET Yeah End down tackle around Hey listen
Starting point is 00:36:45 When they can go in their own script like that On their own page Off script based on what's called And they can communicate that And then make the play Yes Hey, that's, that's, now we got, now we got inboxed in because, look, I want you to go up to field because I'm going inside and if you see you up to field, he's going to dive inside. That'll give me enough opportunity that I can get it. Right. And if you come out of the back, though, you'll be right there waiting on it. You, you, hey, you're right there. That, that's, that's, that's, that's the, that was the only thing defensively that I will say, because I thought that, I thought they played a perfect game tonight. Yes, absolutely. Look, like I said, you know, we can, we can nitpick.
Starting point is 00:37:23 The guy playing from depth, because when Shakur going that short motion, if you bring pressure, he bubbles out the back side. You got him one-on-one. He is a punt returner. Yeah. The number one job is a punt-returner is to make the first guy miss. Yeah. Hey, the first guy, you make him miss.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Now, he don't even count. He's looking at you like the punter. Because they say, if we got everybody else, we got everybody else block, what you got to do to the punter? Make him miss. So that's how he's looking at you. with all that space? Yeah, you're not tackling nobody.
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Starting point is 00:42:56 Before you go any further, we have breaking news. The Raiders just relieved Chip Kelly of his duties. Chip Kelly signed a contract to make him the highest paid office coordinator in football this off season, but he was just dismissed after just 11 games. God damn. Hey He needs to stay in college Listen somebody
Starting point is 00:43:17 Somebody got to take the fall This somebody got to take the fall Somebody got to take it on Obviously It ain't gonna be Pete It ain't gonna be the quarterback Okay who we gonna blame Offensive we can't get nothing going offensively
Starting point is 00:43:30 So who's the first of That gadget ass offense What she call it That gadget ass offense But this is the part I don't like We're in the middle of the season right You left the officer to the coordinator go So what what plays we call it now?
Starting point is 00:43:42 or we have someone else calling the same exact offense because we can't learn a brand new offense. No, it's going to be the same offense. But, you know, sometimes, Ocho, maybe a different set of eyes. I like that. See things differently. I like that. Down in distance.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Area of the field. Or actually understanding the strengths of the goddamn supporting cash you have and putting these right places. Why is Tucker out there on the outside? Why is he out there on the outside as if he's a true, no disrespect, as he's the true number one. He's a slot at best. He's a third, he's a third, he's a good third or fourth receiver. He needs to be in the slot.
Starting point is 00:44:25 He don't need to be outside. First of all, he only like, well, I told him he like five, seven, five eight. Hold on. I know he fast as hell. But he out there lined up two yards outside of the number running comebacks. Man, they finish sitting on that all day, huh? Yeah. They finish sit on that all day.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Like, come on, man. Yeah, it's, uh, Hey, they paid a lot of money. They made him the highest paid office coordinating football. Hey, all right, time to let it go.
Starting point is 00:44:55 If that work, you go back to college, you got to have, you can have a great career in college. Hey, and that worked. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:01 you go ahead and try to change guys, guys that have been doing stuff there in Tyler. Because remember the first thing he did, Ashton Jent, he wanted to put, Ashton Jenton put his hands on his thighs. The man has been saying, standing up the whole while.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Hey, can I ask you a question? Yes. When you see Jemir Gibbs in the back field, how is he standing? Damn, they're standing straight up? Straight up and down. Because that, that, that gives you that, it doesn't change nothing. I'm comfortable. I want, what you need?
Starting point is 00:45:29 Hell, I'll let you play in some hugs. If you're going to tell me you're going to go out there and run for $2.15. I don't care nothing about what you got on. I really don't. Man, please. Thank you, Chad, man. Ooh, Chad, y'all doing us good tonight. Ocho, we got 50K in the chat tonight.
Starting point is 00:45:48 This is the first time in 50K in a regular season game in a long time. Chat, thank you so much for this support. Really appreciate it. The Rams beat the Buccaneers by the score of 34 to 7. Baker Mayfield left the game early due to a left shoulder injury. He did not return. He was spotted on the sideline wearing a sling. Teddy Bridgewater came in and filled in for him.
Starting point is 00:46:09 but the Rams did a great job. They were clicking on all cylinders from an offensive standpoint, and then when they fell behind, they could hunt those two edge rushers and that great front four that the Rams normally have going all the way back to the fearsome forsoom with Merlin Olson, Deacon Jones, Lamar Lundy, and the great Rosie Greer. They got after Baker, they got after Teddy Bridgewater, and they went going away.
Starting point is 00:46:33 They scored 31 points in the first half, and they cruise in the second half, only scored three, but that was all they needed because they did. the race, uh, Bucks didn't score at all. No, so watching this game, Matthew Stafford, 25 or 35, 273, two touchdowns. They didn't run the ball particularly well. 19, carries for 70 yards, Puka, seven catches, 97 yards, excuse me, Devante Adams, five for 62, two tubs.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Parkinson had four for 41 and a touchdown, but when you look at this team, they can run it with, uh, Kyron Williams and Blake, they can't, we know they can throw with Bucca and those weapons that they have and Matthew Stafford at the helm. Ocho, what is it like what you like so much about when you watch the Rams, you watch them play? And they do this every single week. So this is not an aberration or anything like that
Starting point is 00:47:21 or an anomaly. This is who they are. This is what they do. Listen, this is the importance of having a quarterback, this is important to have them a quarterback. Obviously, considered a gunslinger at MVP, a Super Bowl winning quarterback, and you can make a team one-dimensional.
Starting point is 00:47:36 they couldn't run the ball but they threw that motherfucker all over I'm sorry they threw the ball all over the place they did what they wanted to do Pooka Pooka Eden Devante, listen to it I'm not even sure
Starting point is 00:47:46 what was Tampa Bay doing why are they leaving Devante Adams singled up over there and man to man knowing goodwill ain't nobody couldn't be able
Starting point is 00:47:55 stick with him he's scoring touchdowns all over the place making it look easy and making it look really easy especially if you watch it if you watch it from TV like well goddamn
Starting point is 00:48:05 Damn. You know he's going to hit you, Ocho. They know he go hit him with that pause. Every time. And they, hey, listen, and once you relax, once he hits with that head, once you relax, take off, it's a done deal. But outside of that, man, they look really good, man. They look really, really good, really, really sharp.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Matt Stafford is good, the man didn't play, and he didn't even have, he didn't go to training camp. No. He didn't even go to training camp. So to be able to come out here and play like this all season long, you know, they nine and two now, right? 92, best record in the NFC. Hey, they're going to be here to deal with, boy.
Starting point is 00:48:46 They're going to be here to deal with, but coming out of their NFC now. Because Seattle look good. I mean, that division, you got them, you got Seattle, and you got the 49ers. The 49ers have the best record within the division. They're four and one in the division. Yeah. So they have the best record.
Starting point is 00:49:02 They just don't have the best overall record. They did get purdy back. Christian McCaffrey is healthy. They're doing a lot with Kittal and Iyuk. It's going to be interesting when they get when they get Pierce all back if he's coming back. Defensively, they're trying to, you know, trying to mix and match.
Starting point is 00:49:18 They were out there two best players, Fred Warner and Nick Bosa, but they're making it for somehow, somehow, some way, they're making it work. But the Rams make light work of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers tonight, run their record to nine and two, thanks to a 34-7 victory over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Tampa falls to six and five. Baker Mayfield was injured in the ball game. Obviously, he's going to probably get an MRI and see what's going on with that shoulder. Hopefully it's not something that's long term, but Tampa, Tampa looked good tonight. They couldn't run the football. They didn't throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:49:53 They didn't really do anything well, and that has a lot to do with the Rams, not so much of what they didn't do. But the Rams put so much pressure, they have so much pressure out the gate. Yeah. They can get after you now. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Absolutely. They kept Baker Mayfield uncomfortable, didn't allow him to sit in the pocket. He had to run and scramble for his life. He had to extend plays. He did the best he could. But at the end of the day, it was nearly not enough, not even close. Ocho, the Cowboys fall behind 21-0, scored 24 unanswered points. And they win on a game of Brandon Albury's 42-yard field goal as time.
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'm expired. Jalen Hurts said after the game, we got to find a way to finish the game, and we got to find some consistency in what we do. Definitely to tell the two halves. In the end, we didn't play a complete game as a team, and it got us today. We've got to own this one.
Starting point is 00:50:49 Let that light and fire in us as a team and stay together and move forward. A.J. Brown been trying to tell y'all this. Eagle fans, A.J. Brown been trying to tell you, what happens when the defense can't bail us out? You cannot run the football. You're going to win games moving forward on Jaila Hurst's arm. Now, he got some pressure that he doesn't normally get.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah. Lane Johnson is a big out. Mm-hmm. The center, jerkins, ah, ah, uh, it's, uh, Digizua was whipping ass inside today. Yes, sir. But with the exception of one game, Sequin has not run the ball this year. Seaquin had 10 carries for 22 yards.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Yeah. Jalen Hertz had 7 for 33. Bigsby had one for eight. So that's 18 carries for 63 yards. This isn't going to be like this all season long now. You had two turnovers. I mean, the defense was balling. That's an, I thought you, I was sitting there,
Starting point is 00:52:03 and I started a tweet. I started to tweet this, but I did. What? They had the ball second and 17. Uh-huh. They just run the ball, pick up four yards. Hey, how about trying to go for it and try to get nine or ten? Now we got something manageable.
Starting point is 00:52:20 You run the ball into the line of scrimmage, and now it's third and 17. I think A.J. Brown or somebody picked up 12 yards. Now, if you had picked up 12, if you had picked up five or six yards before, and now I come back and get to 12, now you've got a first down. First down. They give up on too many plays. Well, our defense will bail aside our defense. No.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Well, you know, what about not wanting to put the ball in harm's way? I mean, not wanting to put the ball in harm's way, but also being able to trust your quarterback to make the right decision with the ball. They don't. I don't care what they say. They don't. Because they're not a whole lot of people that have a quarterback that's won a Super Bowl MVP that on second and 17, they handing the ball off.
Starting point is 00:53:02 They're going to throw the ball. Let me try to get half of it back, Ocho. Now I got a manageable third down. Right. I get all this say in Stafi, excuse me. Sirianni is going to say all this stuff and I get all of that. But they don't trust him like they should trust him as a guy that started, damn to his entire career in the NFL, he came into the backup,
Starting point is 00:53:23 he got the starting job, and he hasn't relinquished it. He's gone to the playoffs. He's been to two Super Bowls. He's won one and he's won a league and he won a Super Bowl MVP. They don't trust him. like they should. Yeah. Now, this loss should get their undivided attention.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Yeah. Now, AJ ain't going to say this, but AJC, I told you. But listen. I told you. But also look at the game in that fourth quarter. Look at the game. Now, I know the Calvoo were able to come back, but they had about 37-11 goddamn fumbles in a row in back-to-back series.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yes, Sequan fumbling, and then they punted it. The defense did a great job. He fumbled, too. There's only so many times that you can keep putting your defense right back on the field. On the field. They just got off the field. They get them out of Seque, and he fumbled it. The defense hold them.
Starting point is 00:54:15 They punt the ball, defense right back on the field. There's only, look, I don't care how much you build a levy. If it rains enough, it will burst. Yeah, absolutely. And that water will come over that levy. Again, another thing that happened. Apple. Eagles. I just want to know how many penalties that's issued.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Also, they had 14 penalties. Yeah, they had a lot. 14. No, they had more than a lot, a lot of the parcel of land. They had 14. I mean, Dallas had 473 yards of offense. That was, that was, look, This is when DAC is at his absolute best.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Oh, yeah. Because now he can throw caution to the win. Because guess what, Ocho? If you lose, oh, well. But because, you know, when I worked with Dan, Danny and I, Dan Marino, and we worked together for a decade for decade. And he said, he's like, hey,
Starting point is 00:55:23 if I threw three interceptions, hell, what's the difference between three and four? What's the difference between four and five? I'm going to keep letting it rip. Let it go. I mean They should have put this thing away in the first 21-0
Starting point is 00:55:38 Listen, uncle, if you're playing mad You've got to pass the sticks The game is over At 21-0 And I thought the game was over Obviously, I had both games going I'm watching the Raiders and the Browns I'm watching Eagles and the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:55:50 Boom, both TV set up right there So I'm thinking, okay, damn What the Cowboys out of By 21 Zip in the NFL If you continue to keep your foot on the gas It's no way, as good as their defense is, it's no way the Cowboys should be able to come back. But lo and behold, boy, they got a young dude out there.
Starting point is 00:56:09 They got a young dude out there, man, in Dallas. They got a star in his helmet. When he got drafted, he was standing just like this, huh? He was that. Man, listen, when we talk about top five again, when we talk about top five receivers and understanding potential, what they've been able to do and how there's a certain team that might have been holding
Starting point is 00:56:34 me back based on what we're seeing this year man stop man stop playing first of all it shouldn't even be 21 nothing ohcho what cd might but make sure you make curfew moving forward cd dropping an as low to passes ocho you watched it and i've watched it he dropped like four or five hold on how many targets hold on let me go back because ocho he dropped the flat-out touchdown he dropped it in the end zone it That would have ended the game. I'm glad they won the game because that might have been on CD if they lost. He had 11 targets.
Starting point is 00:57:08 He caught four of them. Huh? 11 targets he caught four. He threw four or five of them back at deck. I mean, he was, hey, he turned into a retriever. You know what a retriever is, though, Cho. You hunting quail or pheasant? Go get him, boy.
Starting point is 00:57:24 He'll pick it up and bring it back to you. That's what he was doing. He's picking the ball up and handed to the official. No, no, no, no, no, bro. I need you to be a receiver. We pay you $34 million. And right now, well, you know, you say, everybody's saying, we ain't got to say nothing.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Y'all see it with your own eyes. Y'all see it. We ain't got to say nothing. But you see it. Yeah, he's being lazy with his hands and eyes, huh? That's all it is. Being lazy with your hands and eyes, you got to reset. He lead the league and drops, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:57:55 He lead in the league and drops? CD drops. Oh, man, hey, damn, uh-huh. You sure? 1,000 percent. Damn. Got to get that thing right. Hell, I mean, last couple of games, hell, I thought that was Edward Sutherhands out there.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Hey, uh? Hey, we, I mean, look, we, y'all see it, chat? I mean, Ocho and I, we make a lot of a situation, but y'all see them drops. Yeah. And I know Cowboy fans, y'all see it like, damn, C.D. Come on, Ceddy. You got to catch. I'm talking about the ball beating him up, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Yeah. He doesn't got, what happens, Ocho, you know when you drop a couple, you're like, well, damn, do I got my hands right? Should my hand? Yeah. Damn, like this. Do I catch it like this? Yeah. Now you start trying to body catch everything.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And get in your head. It's gone. You get in your head. Listen, I've been. I've been there. Hey, listen, I've been there, so I kind of know what he's going through. Nah, it just be one game. It don't be multiple.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It don't be back to back and a player of his caliber, of his caliber. Oh, absolutely not. The game was supposed to be over on that catch where it went through it, it hit his belly and went through. And he looked at that, and he looked at that deck and telling that throw it out there a little bit more so I can go back and run to it. Come on, come on now. Over the middle, he dropped one over the middle.
Starting point is 00:59:25 And damn, I mean, and he like, I'm like, bro, I'm glad you got some flexibility because when he goes down, he's all on his neck. I mean, he all breaks that. I'm like, well, damn. Hey, hey, you know, listen, in baseball, some of the greatest, some of the greatest sluggers, they go into slums.
Starting point is 00:59:41 I'm not making no excuses for him, but somebody like that with that double eight, he would have that double eight for a reason. Exactly. He wear that double eight for a reason. So, boom, I had a bad game. Next week, I don't even know who the Cowboys got. I don't even know who the Cowboys got.
Starting point is 00:59:54 But I know next week, a four. Man, get that boy back in the rhythm, man, to get his confidence back, man. Put that thing back on him. No, I'm going to let him work on his confidence. I'm going to go to number three because I know number three going to put it in his back pocket for me. I know what three going to do. Did you see that catch that three made? Which way?
Starting point is 01:00:15 Hold on. Which one? The one he made over two. He caught one and then 21 tried to swipe. But here's the problem the Eagles got. What? Because wherever eight that, the ball going to follow him. Jackson
Starting point is 01:00:27 Whoever he guarding the ball following him now Ocho I'm trying to figure out Ocho Ocho Adora Jackson sets up inside He has inside leverage How in the hell You let Pickets cross your damn face
Starting point is 01:00:41 You're talking about on the slant On the end route Oh okay okay okay okay It was like third and it was like third and 12 He's got inside The one he had to reach up and go half far Yeah You got inside of Ocho, they put you inside for a reason.
Starting point is 01:01:00 If he beat you on the goal ball, you're like, coach, I mean, what you want me to do, you got to be lined up inside. That's on him. If I line you, Ocho, if I line you up inside, you can't let him cross your face. Ocho, I told, what did I tell you? What I've been telling him running back? I say if a linebacker blitz and you catch him, he's going to sit you in the lap of the quarterback and he's going to sack your quarterback. What McCormey did he do to Javante Williams, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:01:28 Set him down back there. Ocho, you better close that distance. You got to realize. He's coming from distance, so he has a head of steam. You're sitting there catching him. You better close that distance. You got to meet him. You got to meet him.
Starting point is 01:01:48 Hey. The Eagles, I tell you what, AJ Brown got the undivided attention. Yeah. Hey, he had a hell of a game. They, too, huh? They were, hey, they were feeding that boy early, too. Not enough. Hey, they were feeding him early. He should have had one of them chase games.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He should have had 23 targets. Devante. Devante cooking. Both, um, both, um, head chef and assistant chef. Jayla. It's not going to be what it was last year. you throw another wide open guys because Seacuan
Starting point is 01:02:27 and they're dropping that eight guy down to stop Sequin. That offensive line is not as dominant. Now Lane Johnson is out. He's probably done for the year because it's reported that he has a Liz Frank. So he's probably, if he got Liz Frank, he's probably done.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Excuse me. Yes. You're going to have to educate me. What the hell is a Liz Frank? It's a ball. Dancers normally get it. It's a small bruntary. It's a, what is it?
Starting point is 01:02:50 Like the metatarsal, like in your foot. So this is your foot It's like right How he's going to play Because he got the foot already It's his right foot So you're going to kick How you're going to catch
Starting point is 01:03:04 How are you going to sit? Can't he done If what they're saying is true That he has a lead spring injury Right I might be able to do something Do something for him for that Well you might
Starting point is 01:03:18 Can do something after he have surgery But you ain't going to be able to do nothing for it right now With that being said, don't you look I think the thing is the Eagles, you just got to realize, and I said, I've been saying this, if you think you're going to win the Super Bowl, how you won it last year, you're fooling yourself. No, you can't.
Starting point is 01:03:32 You got to evolve, huh? You got to evolve. The way you won it last year, not going to be able to do it the same way the next year. And obviously, you know what, you know how difficult it is to repeat? Being able to repeat is very difficult in itself. But I don't know, Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I know it's early I'm willing to get AJ a year or so but hey Early what Ain't no way in hell you're supposed to let Sam Donald like that goddamn dough now Stop playing Well he's gone now
Starting point is 01:04:04 So ain't no sense in closing Ain't no sense in closing the door now Cause the cow's already out of the barn Did you? Were you able to watch that game today? I did watch it Man please If you could
Starting point is 01:04:19 If you could turn back the hands of time I guarantee you they don't let I'm sure absolutely they would absolutely you have 1,000 as a matter of fact Justin Jefferson go pick his ass up from the airport yeah you're absolutely right
Starting point is 01:04:33 absolutely I know Madal Jedda got to be frustrated boy oh I know I know he frustrated From going to putting up those kind of numbers yeah I mean think about what he Ocho he was on a historic I mean he was talking about
Starting point is 01:04:45 the best five year six year totals in NFL history that's the kind of place he was on Yeah. And now it's come to a screeching halt because his quarterback play is inadequate. God. It is what it is. I mean, we're not, Ocho, we're not breaking, Ocho, we're not interrupting normally scheduled programming to break news.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Right. If you watch the vacuels play, their quarterback, he leaves a lot to be desired. As I said, I know this is his first year starting, although he's a second year player. I'm willing to give him time. I'm willing to give him some runway. But I'm saying what my eyes are telling me right now is that he leaves a lot to be desired. Let's see if he can change my perception
Starting point is 01:05:30 of how good I think he can be. Chat, I'll leave that up to y'all. Maybe y'all think he's, you know. Hey, listen, it's not up to us. He got to make them believers over there in that organization. Yeah. He got to make his receivers believe us too. Because obviously based on what I saw today,
Starting point is 01:05:47 the small semicides of the game I was able to catch, boy, that ain't it, boy. They didn't get it done Not even close to being it And the funny thing when I think about it Is you still have the same weapons They goddamn Sam Donald had last year So it really shouldn't be
Starting point is 01:06:03 It shouldn't be that goddamn difficult Even though playing the quarterback position Is difficult But for Sam Donald to make it look like he did last year And then go to Seattle And continue making it look like that I'm thinking well, hell, shoot If he's what he's supposed to be
Starting point is 01:06:17 As high as he got drafted he should be able to get get it done the exact same way I was concerned Ocho let me tell you why I was concerned about him is because they really didn't throw the football at Michigan
Starting point is 01:06:28 they were a running team yeah they run it right down your mouth so oh whoa hold on whoa hold on hold on run that back I need you to rephrase that and then press pray
Starting point is 01:06:41 oh my bad my bad pause yeah yeah I need to come on no no no no no just just rephrase it okay run the ball damn um let me see how you say uh they run the ball against no i'm trying to say it the right way i don't know but i just need you to refrase the way what you did they just
Starting point is 01:07:03 rephrase that they run they're gonna run the ball down here okay yeah okay yeah there you go My bad. Yeah. Woo. Emmanuel Wilson ran for 107 yards and two touchdown as the Packers beat Minnesota by the score of 236. Wilson provided all the office Green Bay needed on a day. The Packers forced three turnovers, reduced five sacks, including two from each from Michael Parson and Devante Wyatt. The Vikings totaled four net yards and three turnovers in the second half.
Starting point is 01:07:42 The Vikings hadn't finished the half with as few as four yards. total yard the offense since 1991 or as far back as sports radar sports to radar sport radar research goals damn oh joe we kind of having this conversation just a minute ago
Starting point is 01:08:00 yeah I'm willing to give him look he missed last year with an injury yes so he didn't really get a whole lot of reps this year he missed what five games with an injury so that kind of studied his growth I'm willing to give him some time but boy next year this time on
Starting point is 01:08:16 You'll have to show me a lot to convince me. Yeah, absolutely. Listen, the clock is ticking, obviously. The clock is ticking. You have to prove yourself because if you don't prove yourself next year around this time, then they're going to move on. You know how this business is. You understand how this game is.
Starting point is 01:08:32 They want instant gratification right away. They're not waiting around, waiting to develop, waiting to get better. You have to show signs. You have to show signs of improvement, fast, quick, and in a hurry. If you don't, you got to be able to show some type of potential. And in order to do that, you've got to be healthy. You got to be on the field. Yep.
Starting point is 01:08:57 You think about Ocho, he was 12 or 19 for 87 yards, two picks. And then they had another 93 yards on the ground. So basically, they had 180 yards of total offense. Maybe they didn't have that many when you take the sack yardage into account, they might have had 140 yards. My bad, 145. That's crazy. I don't know if you're going to win a whole lot of game.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Unless you sack their quarterback 10 times, unless you take the ball away from them another five time, it's hard or or you get pick six and scooping scores or return touchdowns, Ocho, and the special teams game. You're not winning no game with 145 yards of total offense unless you get a punt return, a kick return, you block a punt, something unforeseen. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:49 But 145 yards? Damn. That's embarrassing. And, I mean, you got Addison, you got Jetta, and you got Naylor. Oh, and the, and you got Heel and you got Heelan. You got Thieling in there, too. No, yeah, Thieler. And you got Hawkinson.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And you got Aaron Jones, who can, no, there is no excuse. Hey, that's No excuse That's crazy Boy, I know Jed is hot This is what Justin Jefferson said It gets frustrating When they keep saying
Starting point is 01:10:26 The same fixes are coming each week But nothing is different The following week It's frustrating It's frustrating to lose It's frustrating to be up here Saying the same thing every single week Expecting things to change the following week
Starting point is 01:10:38 And we're still in the same spot And we just got to figure it out yeah i mean he's saying all the right things he's saying all the right things to us in front of the camera but behind closed doors to those that he know those that he trusts that conversation is completely different throw my whole meal in the trash completely different oh that's hey can you imagine though i'm i'm just thinking about it you know how bad you have to be to have justin jefferson addison Thielen,
Starting point is 01:11:13 Hockinson, you got Aaron Jones back there running the ball to take some of the pressure off of you even if you are one dimensional
Starting point is 01:11:19 you can be able to throw the ball with them my, excuse me with those weapons mm-hmm come on now the same
Starting point is 01:11:28 Sam Donald that was with the New York Jets that they didn't want anymore the same Sam Donald that with the Carolina Panthers
Starting point is 01:11:33 that he didn't want because he would but he went to Minnesota and looked like a goddamn in man come on now stop playing
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