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Ahead of the season, Ernest Joan DeFourth. Oh, Cho, you remember Ernest Joan the 4 came on, he tried to end the season with 6th, interceptions with six games to go he already has a career high four picks including one he returned today for 85 yards down his first touchdown in the past six quarters the vicans have total zero points 13 first downs and a hundred and sixty two total y'all god hey i got a question how long before justin jefferson can't take it no more I gave him another year

because it's been very prosperous over there for the first four or five years of his career. So it's just a down year this year. But is that the Vikings being cheap. What you mean being cheap? Who are they supposed to pay? Sam Darno. That ship is sale.

So now would have... Well, you ask me how they're being cheap. And guess what? And now you're starting to see James and McCarthy has an injury problem, Mocho. Remember, he missed all last year. How many games did he miss this year? year.

Guess what, Ocho? He hurt again. This is the funny thing about it. Is he really hurt? Is he really hurt? Matter of fact, we got to be hurt. Did you see that quarterback play today?

He got to be hurt. They played him. Trust me. They don't want to play him. They don't. They don't want to play him, Ocho. I'm sorry.

he got to be hurt maybe they want maybe he wanted to see what he looked like you said him in practice you know what he looked like but you know sometimes sometimes in practice you know it don't tell you enough

until you allow somebody to play in the game some people some people they practice bad but play good in the game I ain't never seen that from a quarterback hey he was bad today boy no disrespect the young bull but like i'm not i'm not even sure you have disrespect 19 to 30

126 yards four interceptions damn four see you know maybe the viking go get capernick who who you say he'll get who you say he'll who you say who you say you go get? You got jokes. Who that man said? You said capital? The man's still working. He's still in shape.

Listen, you want somebody that's going to give you a chance. It's over, it ain't on. Do you see, did you see what? Jesse Jefferson had to deal with the day? Yeah. Give him a chance. It's been over.

There ain't nobody giving him no chance. They didn't give him a chance. The year that he got released by the 49ers, nobody gave him a chance. You think somebody going to give you a chance a decade afterwards? Hello? Well, he's better than what they got in the room right now? No, he's not.

No, he's not, Ocho. So you think Cap ain't better than what we saw today from the fighting quarterback? Nope, nope, nope, not after 10 years out of the league. Nope. Cap was never a proficient pass or Ocho Who else we got at there right now? What the bike is going to do?

What the bike is going to do? What are we going to do? They better go good. I guess they try to get Kyla Murray if they cut it. Kyler, Minnesota. Try to trade for Matt Jones.

Ooh. Hey. I'm picking up what you're putting down. Mac Jones. a passer of the ball Yeah Now they can use that Now the important part is

Who we got called in the plays Uh Guy Okay okay okay okay okay we cook it a little bit We cooking a little bit Hey Mac Jones Yeah Mac Jones

But he's on the contract He's on the contract For another year with uh Oh don't worry about that Don't worry about that Don't worry about we'll take We'll take care of him We'll take care of him

I'm talking about we I'm just, come on, Mac Jones. Come on down there. Come on down there with a boy, JJ. So you can see what's like to throw to one of the best in the world. Flacco will be available? Nah, flacco from the stay in Cincinnati. What about James?

Ooh, now you're cooking. Unc, well, you know, your ball knowledge is phenomenal. You hear me? Hey, your ball knowledge tonight is phenomenal. Yeah, you're cooking, boy. You're cooking. Okay, all right, let me take that back. James Winston, he going to throw that ball.

No, Flacco, he going to throw that ball. Or Mac Jones to the Vikings. I like that. I like those three. You like either three of them. Yeah, and Justin Jefferson would agree. Matter of fact, let me call him real quick. Man, look here.

At this point in time, Justin Jefferson would take me at quarterback. I'm going to call him. I'm going to tell it right now. See, this is a good thing. That's what I like about nightcap. We could talk about players and then pick up the phone and talk to him about, JJ, what's up, what? Shoot, man, I'm telling him, I'm right here.

I'm right here on nightcap. I'm right here on nightcap. And we got a solution for you so you don't have no more problems going forward following next year, right? Let me tell you what Unc just cooked up. This wasn't my idea. It was Unk idea. So I want to make sure I give him the credit when it actually happens.

Next year, your quarterback, we either going to have James. Winston, yes, that James Yes, James Winston Joe Flacco or Mac Jones Okay Okay Hello Man he hung up on me, man

That's me, man That's Yeah I'll show the chat say we weren't hard enough On Jerry Judy Say Jerry Judy gave up on the Wait, Judy Gable. Man, why y'all put SpongeBob in that sweater?

What SpongeBob at? Go to Twitter, man. They got SpongeBob in that sweater that I had on at the Memphis game. What is it on your page? Yeah, go to Nightcap. In the past six quarters, as I mentioned, they have zero points, 162 total yards. Today, Ocho, the day snap a 305 game streak, including playoffs, of avoiding shutouts,

the third longest actor streak in the NFL dating back to 2007. they say they want you to put it on the screen no I'm talking about the SpongeBob we can't play Jerry Judy yeah we can't play Jerry Judy Wait what happened to Judy

I guess the rock the rock that he ran Oh the animated on the sideline Yeah Nah bro we can't play that NFL take all our money Hey who got it? Ash got it already No no

It's the footage that on the sideline Y'all gonna have to I mean Ocho can Google it But uh no I'm Stefan Curry And this is gentleman's cut I think what makes gentlemen's cut

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Those conversions played a big part in which Houston's second half, which they were able to give them enough to win. C.J. Strau, 32, or 35, 276, no touchdowns, interceptions. Nico Collins, five catches, 98 yards. Big, big, big. And he had a touchdown rush on a, you know, they tossed it to him.

Uh, Higgins, uh, had five for 65, Shultz had seven for 55, Xavier Hutchinson had two for 29, but, things getting tight. That division is going to be really, uh, as a matter of fact, don't, Indy play Jacksonville next week, right? Yeah, Andy, I think Indy plays Jacksonville and the Texas play KC in KC. Ooh, that's going to be nice. That could be nice. Yeah.

Casey, you better find out a way to block those edge, Will Landerson, Jr., and... Daniel Hunter. Yeah, them boys, them boys bawling. Them boys bawling real well. I mean, I watched some of this game. Obviously, I had multiple TVs on at the cigar bar. And every time I looked over at this game, obviously, there was no sound on this one. I had the sound on the Browns game.

Every time I looked over, God damn Pierce was making a play and making a catch. he was making a big play. Obviously, I thought Jonathan Taylor, John and Taylor almost got loose, but he wasn't able to get loose and have some of the crazy games he's had throughout the season. Well, I got to neutralize him.

If you neutralize him, you're somewhat good. I'm going to make Daniel Jones beat me, Ocho. I'm going to make Daniel Jones. But I can't let, I can't let JT run for 150, 180, 200. I can't. Because if he can run like that, guess what is going to happen, Ocho?

They're going to play action off a movie. They're going to kill you. And so Cam, Cambine him, obviously one of my favorite, one of my favorite safeties in the NFL. He had an interception. What else? See, Day Stroud had him a nice little day.

Yeah, he had an interception. They got to it. But, you know, at the end of the day, you got to win the game. And they won the ball game to pull themselves back. It's going to be very interesting. Indies 8 and 4. Jacksonville's 8 and 4.

Jacksonville is a quiet. eight and four too uh huh that ball they go in you heard me jacksville is a quiet a quiet eight and four yeah i i looked at this in real time mocho if you look at that in real time ain't no way to kick winning in you don't think it went in no oh if it ain't go in they would have said they would have said it would no good what the fan how do the fans react behind it the fans the fans The Colts fan are holding up the hands like it ain't no good. I thought it was no good in real time. You know, hey, them refs sitting right there, right there field side

and looking right up, right above. Yeah, I saw some, I saw some refs miss a damn tripping call tonight, too. The Broncos tripped, they got a Mario da, when they got that sack. And then they also missed it as he was down. So don't tell me about the referee being right there. Because the ref is right there. He's watching the quarterback. he watched the guy kick his leg out

and tripped Mario da. He saw that. Mariotta goes down. And they talk about third day. No, bro. You missed the tripping car. He had a sack.

First of all, the sack should have been null and void because he tripped him. But the Texans getting back in this thing, Ocho, and they needed to. They didn't want, because what Chicago would have been

9 and 3. They would have been 6. They'd have been 6 and 5. Well, no, they'd have been yeah, they'd have been 6 and 6. six so they fight it's gonna be tough mocho y'all only hope you y'all got to win y'all division don't worry about don't worry about that listen okay we're gonna be all right the bangles don't be all right anybody else in the afc they don't want to see us right now they don't want

to see us right now while the defense is playing the way they buffalo want to see y'all buffalo want to see y'all they don't see us and the ravenan want to see y'all after that everything they're looking for because we got we got uno back we got joe back we got t back we got our defense playing lights out crazy despite what we look despite what we're ranked statistically you hear me that wasn't no 36 that wasn't no 32nd ranked defense we saw uh thanksgiving day it was it definitely what but y'all raise y'all ugly y'all raise your ugly heads again no won't no won't no won't in the span of a month ocho the coach have gone from a multiple game leading the AFC South to fighting for their playoff lives.

Today, loss dropped them into a tie with the Jags for the division and sets up an absolute massive game between the two teams next Sunday. The Colts have lost three of their past four games after posting the best record in the NFL through the first eight weeks. Hey. The Jags beat the Titans by the score of 25 to 3. Trevor Lars threw for 229 yards, two touchdown and didn't throw an interception for the first time since the Jags are lost.

October the night. He finished with 111.5 passer rating for the first time he's posted a rating better than 100 since week 8 of 2024. Julius Chestnut said the Jags punter Logan Cook threatened to kill him. He said he would kill me. He came up to me and said he would kill me.

Never heard that one before in my life. That was strange, especially for a punter. You know, it's strange. I wouldn't even tell nobody that. Hey. why everybody everybody talking y'all like their dry snitching on everybody

man keep that stuff to yourself it's okay it's okay hey but the titan tight needs to I wouldn't take first of all I ain't taking anything a point of say seriously anyway

man shut you hey um but what the titan need uh what the titan need camp cam water's good Cam Ward is good Now there's only so much you can do

What they need to put around him Cam Ward needs a dog man He needs a dog Weapons are running back You need a running back Hold on you don't like Tony Paula You don't like Tony Paula You need a running back

You need offensive linemen You need some wide receivers Hey Your best wide receivers is going Yeah Calvin hurt Calvin hurt Yeah they got to give him a dog man But Tennessee is Sergeer right

you traded AJ Brown you let Derek Henry go you let Kevin Bayard go Kevin Bayard leading the NFL Interceptions You y'all don't think y'all could use that over there I know I know I know Jeffrey Simmons

frustrated as hell Yeah yeah Hey Jeff Brother Simmons Hey holl at your boy You like Skyline chili Huh No

brother simmons we give you what you're looking for yeah we need the bucks beat the cards by the score of 20 to 17 the bucks got a much needed victory over arizona to stop a three game losing streak and improved to seven and five they have the same record if they had lost this game mocho and and it would be in carolina one carolina would have been in first in the afc south Hey, the Arizona Cardle is losing Unk, but they got Jim Jacoby Rossett. Boy, he's dealing and willing, boy, ain't he? Boy, he was 29 and 42 TD for 301. McBride.

Hey, McBride is nice, too. McBride might be top five tight-ins in the league. Right now. Oh, easy. For me, I would probably rank in number one. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, well, over, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You're going to rank him number one over Brock Bowers? it's close between him and power it's very very close man brine brine yeah he's nice i mean really really good he nice he can route your ass i mean brock can too both of these guys can rot your ass up i mean i watched uh uh Zach urns you see Zach urns

you see that arm over or hoverfanger you see that not collided you could tell the rot running tight you could tell tidy that run routes as opposed to guys the block and used to bang to pay bumper cards to get open. You see, hey, her finger was looking for it to bang. Over. Seven. That's me.

I ain't, no, boy, don't touch me. I'm glass. I might break. It's close. But I love Brock Bowles since I first saw him as a freshman at Georgia. I said, this kid can play. This kid going to play in the NFL for a number of years. And he's going to be really, really, really good.

Yeah, he's nice. He nice. Baker, 18 to 28, 198, 194, or one touchdown. Bucky Ear, the two turnovers kind of dear to me and Ocho. The two turnovers. For Arizona,

Brissette, threw a pick, and the fumble. Bucky Irving, Bucking Irving back. Arizona's not that, they're not that far away. They're not. But it just goes to show you,

The quarterback, I think Kyle has done it. You think so? I do. Hey, are you sure Arizona want to, they want to hit that reset button already? Yeah, they do. Damn. I just feel like they begrudgingly gave him the contract anyway.

That's why you put the language in there that you put in. Hey, that's tough. That's tough. I mean, listen, he's going to end up somewhere, though. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to end up somewhere because he's an immense talent, you know, despite, you know, being short or whatever people may say, but there are ways you can use him where he can be effective for somebody's offense. Make Brian. Hey, chat, chat, can y'all hear me?

What would be a good place for Kyle and Murray to go play quarterback? Chat, y'all hear me? Hello? Yeah, how many catches they have on the Caesar? The Steelers? The Raiders? No. Go to Pittsburgh.

Ah, I like Pittsburgh. Okay. I like the Pittsburgh one. Collin to the Steelers. Radies. Somebody said, Vegas. No. I mean, I'm getting the same two.

I'm getting the same three. He got 88 catches already? Ready. Well, he got to be up there damn near the lead league. Who's leading the league? Chase? Raiders, Raiders, Vikings.

Wait, who got 80 catches? McBride got 88 catches. How? With five games to go. You sure? I'm positive. Well, he got a thousand yards already? He got to be damn close.

Wait a minute. 88 catches? He got eight. He got $8.79. How many? Who leading the league? Chase? Chase got to have 90 then.

No, he must be leading, though. He said, Chase was 86. Oh, okay. Okay. God. So he's leading the league and catches on Joe. Jesus Christ. I mean, there's an outside chance that he could break.

I think Zach Ertz has the record most catches by tight end. I think Earth's got like 116. In the season? By that, man, that's crazy. Yeah, on the season, yeah. Hey, what's the record for receiver? It wasn't Marvin Harrison had that record or it got broken?

No, no, no, no. What did you call him had the record? Michael Thomas, 149. Yeah, okay, okay, okay. He must have broke the record. Man, that's a lot. Cup almost got it. He had 145 in like 1930,

so he liked to got both of them. But you see, he was never the same after that that's a lot of catches that's a lot of collisions I wonder how many y'all's up think about it Michael Thomas was never the same

after all those catches that season on Joe hey if you take as good as good at math yeah what's up take

my season where I had the most catches right and just and just say I had a hundred and 45 five catches, what would my yardage be? You will have the, I don't know if you will have the same yards per catch. Oh, that's right.

Because they got, they got to get you smoke rounds. They just can't throw you deep balls. You're right, you right, you're right, right. Because think about how many screens Cooper Cup caught. I don't like them. How many, how many jet sweeps did he call? I don't like them either. I don't like them.

I don't want, I don't want people having. Boy, you to call, but if you, with that average that you can't catch that in past, boy, you'd call 2100 yards. You think so? Yeah Damn That's another 50 catches What's the most you argue

Average of the season Shoo Yards per catch Oh I don't know You know the numbers It's good It's good hearing that stuff though Yeah

The season that you had The season that you had 14 other yards If you'd average the same thing On 145 catches You'd have over 2,200 yards Ooh, woo, I would have been good, what? Yeah, yeah.

So, now you see, you're talking about, man, if I'd had my both, you know, what? They can't throw you them deep, they can't throw you that, man, you'd have to have 300 targets. Throw you that in the deep ball, you catch them. Ah, hell no. Somebody would be the mad at you, because you'd been getting all the targets. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is gentleman's cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different.

Visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Hey there. Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom.

And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health,

from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility, and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's Health is about more than six packs and supplements.

It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Facebook. favorite shows. Podcasters, it's time to get the recognition you deserve. The IHeart Podcast Awards are coming back in 2026.

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That's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the Sticks on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Devon A. Chain ran for a hundred and three yards with a touchdown to help the Saints, uh, uh, uh, the Dolph, excuse me, help the Dolphins edge the Saints by the score of 21 to 17 for the third straight win. Minko Fitzpatrick had a fumble recovery and an interception. Oh, he ran the two-poch conversion back, right? That was the two-bork conversion they tried. He ran that back and they win. But O'Connell, excuse him, O'Connell.

But Devon A-Chain been running, man. Hey, he's totally. Hey, hold on. Man, I show which can't see would have gave up that picture here. 22 carries a buck, 34, one touchdown. Darren Waller came back, much needed. 27 yards. Waddle had three for 40.

Tua, 12 or 23, 157, zero touchdown, one of the exception. Shook, Tyler Shook, 26 and 38, 239, two touchdowns, one interception. Velaide, eight for 93 in a touchdown. Chris Olive, four for 47 in the touchdown. Hey, uh, you know Devon A-Chane was on nightcap, huh? Well, you know, ever, ever since he's been on nightcap, he's been, he's been running wild, huh? I don't know I don't know chat

I don't know if it's y'all and I don't know if you've been paying attention but everybody that's come on nightcap whether it be college whether it be NFL they just been bawling they've been doing they just I don't know what it is

I don't know if it's a coincidence man what happened to my goddamn camera it's trash I don't know what's going on but yeah Devon A-Chain Tour. Hey, hold on. The Dolphin scared me today.

They almost lost this game, now. Yeah, they did. There was a two-point of a virgin away from being tied. Man, Cam Jordan still out of the ball. He had two sacks today. Chase Young had a sack. They sacked them four times. Ocho, you remember the Alabama running back

that came on last week? You know he had a broken jaw. And we tried to be scared. He said, nah, I want to go on a nightcap with Uncan Ocho. So he was talking to us with a broken job. He was? Yeah. Damn.

And when you break your job, how long you got to stay out? He couldn't, he didn't play. That's why he didn't play in the game, Ocho. And his agent told him to say, nah, you don't have to come on. He said, no, I want to go on nightcap with Uncle Ocho. All right, that's dope. That's dope.

So, Kev, heal up, man. Thank you for coming on. We really, really appreciate it, man. Really, really appreciate that. Means a lot. What else we got? Justin Herbert threw two touchdown passes. Despite a hand injury,

Chargers send their raiders to the six straight loss. Herbert broke a bone his non-throwing hand during the charge's first offensive series. After covering it with a hard cast and a white glove, he spent the rest of the afternoon taking shotgun snaps and handing off to the running back whenever possible. Where he spent the rest of a half,

carving up the Raiders. Hey, the Raiders, a, I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say. The Chargers did what the Chargers did. Everybody right now that has to play the Raiders, you might as well chalk that up as a win. You could talk about it as a win. The Chargers look good.

Now, I'm concerned for the quarterback situation, though. He has to get surgery in that hand. How long is he going to be out? They might not have surgery on it. Well, they're going to put a club on it? Not a club, but, um. Well, they put a, they put a hard cast on the top of it. And he got, he probably got to wear a glove, huh?

Oh, they say you're going to have surgery, Ocho. Oh, yeah. So I guess he'll have, uh, they'll probably put a, uh, a carbon fiber or titanium plate with something that's lightweight. So it doesn't weight it's going to be hard. I can't imagine him taking snaps up on the center. That jarring? Yeah, every time. Ooh, that's going to hurt, boy.

Golly. Hell, if anything, he should have had surgery after the game. He'll probably have it tomorrow. Yeah, Herb and get that out the way. Herb and get that out the way fast. Beat Al. He came on the show, too, Ocho. Hey, he was bawling the day, boy.

Came on the show. He was bawling to have some really nice catches. Brock Bowers. had four catches, 63 yards, two touches. Chin, well, you never like to see your safety have this many tackles, but he had 17. Hey, boy, buddy be coming to the party, boy. He's fin to pull up. He don't need no address, but you're wearing the wrong jersey.

He will be there. But right now, we got a two-game lead in the AFC West. And we got the Raiders. I think we got the Raiders this week, don't we? Don't we got the Raiders this week? Oh, yeah, I told you what was going to happen. You hope? No, I'm not.

I'm not hoping. I mean, you got to understand how football works. The Raiders can't keep on losing game after game after game after game. At some point, they're going to be a game that they're going to win, and the game they're going to win is going to be against a team that nobody expects them to lose against. Watch, I'm telling you. Okay. Ocho, it's time to play on Fade, presented by prize picks.

Hey, I feel good at night, boy. God, damn. Oh, who did... Oh, damn. I got to do this right. I got to get this right. Okay, Drake May, 271 pass and rush yards tomorrow. How do you say pass?

You said pass and rush. Yes. What'd you think? Drake May? Hell, yeah. Wait, who they're playing? They're playing the Giants? Oh, yeah, absolutely.

All right, we're going over. Hunter Henry, 39 receiving yards. Hey. Yep, that's his favorite target. Jackson Dart, more than 30 rush yards. Yes, I'm going over. because one thing about it when he don't see it, he'll take it off.

I would say going on. You think so? All right. Yeah, they're going to be hesitant. You know, ashtamah he ain't learned. Exactly. Trayvillian Henderson, more than 81 rush and receiving yards. What did Giants rank offensively, I mean defensively against the rush?

Giants good against the rush. Shoot, man, they got, they got, they got, they got, oh yeah, oh yeah, he gonna get that. They dead last against the rush. Hey, I'm, you know, you know, it's funny, how they dead last against the rush was so many good. was such a good front. Well. Yep. That's good enough for me.

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by the score 33. three to 15. New England led 30 to seven at the half, giant special teams. Guess what? Marcus Jones, who will be the all pro return of this year, a 94-yard return to really break it open? And Christian Ellis, boy, he unlooked, Ocho, I told you. I told you last night. You say he goes, I said, Ocho, he ain't learned his lesson yet. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, he didn't learn his lesson. You see how he went flying? Yeah. When you see a guy going flying like that, that means he's totally relaxed. He'd embrace himself. So he's right, because, When they teach you to sprint, what they tell you to do, relax.

Relax your body. So he's totally to relax. This is the only time they get, you're a runner. Yeah. They can't hit you like that no other time. Right. They're not going to pull up. They are going to try to unload.

And boy, he had a Jackson's dark must have an air tag on him. Because, boy, when he honed it on him, I don't even know what an air tag is. But I hear people talking about it. Yeah. I hear people talking about air tags and they can find somebody's location. Well, when he found his location and then guess what, Ocho, you see him on the kickoff? Yeah. Go to sleep.

Yeah. He caught him. Jackson Dart has to be safe. He has to be safe. He's a special player. He's going to be special. What he can do when he has a ball in his hands are being able to extend plays, make things happen off a script outside of the scheme outside of the plays that are called, he's going to be good. But he has to learn to protect himself and know when the journey is over.

It's okay to step out of bounds It's okay to slide You don't have to be taking on DB You don't have to take on linebackers And prove that you're tough That team that team is going to be good Once they get Malik back Once they get Scatterbo back

They're going to be nice They're going to be all right Maybe get a playmaking safety or corner Maybe an offensive line Because I think they have the pieces I do think they have pieces The Patriots are really really good The one thing

They're really really well coached We know that about Brave. Yes, sir. We saw that in Tennessee. Tennessee, y'all made a big mistake. Y'all made a big mistake. You should have never let this man out of the building. Coaches like him don't come along often.

No. You let Derek Henry out the building. You let A.J. Brown, excuse me, out of the building. Yeah. You can't keep having turnover like that. You can't be personal. I mean, because you get, if you get too involved as an owner, it becomes personal, you're going to get rid of the guy.

And I think that's why the Patriots were so lasted so long. long is that Mr. Kraft stayed away. He didn't let his personal feeling out what he thought about Coach Belichick get involved and then you can let things blossom the way it should be. But man, when you look at them, Drake made 24-31-Ocho, 282-2-2 touchdowns.

You've got a 29-carriage, a buck-19, Hunter Henry, 4 for 73, Ramandre Stevenson, three for-for-thirty, excuse me, Bouttee had four for 35 and one. Kyle Williams had one for 33 and one-tunt. They're very good. Very. Look, they don't got no big name received that jump off the board at you,

they ain't got, hey, Drake May is, but they got that guy. Yeah. See, if you got that guy, Ocho. I don't think people understand how good Drake May has been. Like, obviously, I knew he was good. I didn't know he was this good, huh? Yeah, I didn't know he was this good. Hey, I agree.

I think he's, though, he has a completion percentage of about almost damn near 70%. Yeah. 70% dating back the last year. And I'm not talking about 70%. completely percentage is throwing screen, not bubble screens, not checkdowns, not throwing to the running back. On top plays over 20 yards, 20 yards are better. That lets me know, for one, he's not scared to let it rip.

Correct. Not only is he not scared to let a rip, he is insanely accurate with the ball as well. Yep. So, and you know what I like about the receiving court? You say they don't have a superstar receiver. They don't have a true number one. But every game, somebody else shows up. every game is somebody else, huh?

The guys fit. Yes. They fit. You look at, he had three completions over 30 yards. He had a 36 yard of Hunter Henry, a 36 yard to Ramandre Stevens. Yes. And he had a 33 yard of the Kyle Williams. He had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

He had nine completions of at least 10 yards. So that tells me, Ocho, that he's not afraid to push the ball down the field. Down the field, yeah. Look, they're going to be. be times you screen the ball low. So I get that. You're going to run a screen to the running back. You're going to run a smoke screen or a jailbreak screen, bubble screen, whatever they call them now. You're going to run that. But at the end of the day, at some point in time, you're going to have to take chances down the field. You're going to have to push the ball down the field.

And he's unafraid to push the ball down the field. Give Josh McDaniels, like, scream credit. Look, he might not be a great head coach, but he's an unbelievable offensive court. Yeah, very good. He's unbelievable. He puts guys in the right position, and everybody has flourished under him. Look, I throw Tom Brady out because Tom Brady flourished under everybody. But when you look at what he's done with Matt Jones, you look at what he did with Jimmy Garoppolo, you look at what he did with Jacoby percent, you look at what he did with Matt Jones. Now you look at what he's doing with Drake May. His ability to get the quarterback to understand what he's what he wants and the quarterback to be an extension of the

offensive coordinator on the field is second to none. Look, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVey and Andy Reed. Yes. But Josh McDaniel doesn't have to take a backseat to any of them. No, no, absolutely not Because he has success with every quarterback he's touched Every quarterback he's had to deal with they've had success on the field And like you said, the quarterback has always been an extension of him And outside of, you know, the goat being Tom Brady The fact that he's been able to do it with everyone he's been a part of

Says a lot about him being the quarterback whisper Yeah, and wasn't he the guy? Was he the O.C. with Matt Castle? You know, I'm not sure. Was it him or? It was him because then he went up going to Denver. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was going to Denver. Oh, and he was the head coach in Denver.

Because Charlie Weiss left and went to Notre Dame. Yeah. Okay. Wasn't, what? That had been 2000 and they lost the Super Bowl in 2007. You sure wasn't him? Was it Bill O'Brien? Which one?

And that's what I'm saying. It might have been him or it might have been him or Bill O'Brien. Right. But he left and went to the Broncos. He might have went to the Broncos in nine, though. Yeah, 08 was McDade. Oh, 8 was McDade. So it was him that lost that, the Super Bowl.

Who lost the Super Bowl? Bill O'Brien. Okay, he lost his own six to eight. Okay, yeah, okay. So it's, he, he, his ability to, to, to have a vision of what he wanted his offense to look like. and to communicate that with the quarterback and get the quarterback on the same wavelength so they see things out of eye.

Yes. He's unbelievable. Like I said, he's been a lot of places as a head coach and it doesn't work. But play calling when he's just responsible for one thing, the offense, Ocho. Yeah, he, listen, he's one of the best. He's one of the best.

Ocho. Yo. We saw something tonight, Ocho. I hadn't seen this since peanuts. The last time I see somebody miss a ball like this, it was Charlie Brown. But Lucy moved it. Wait a minute.

What happened? Did you see the kicker? Oh, you talk about my dog, Youngho? Yeah. Hey, I'm not sure, but you got to keep your eye on the ball. You got to keep your eye on the ball. Now, listen, me, me as a kicker, you know, I understand. The one thing you do, you should never be able to miss a kick.

You should never be able to stub your toe. It's all about the foot, hand, I'm talking about the foot and eye coordination. Like, you do that so often. How does that even happen? Not about, Ocho, okay, because we've seen guys they get too much of the ground and they kick the ball and it doesn't go through.

We didn't see nobody missed a whole damn ball and just don't it. And the holder looking back, the holder like, hold on. You got me down in this down position. They're about to tear my ass up. Let me get up out of here. Yeah, hey, I've never seen that. I've never seen it.

In all my years of playing football, I've seen him hit the dirt like you know when you swing the tee and you catch the dirt before you hit the ball yes yes I've seen

I've seen that but I've seen stub your toe and not even make contact with the ball at all that's the first I saw look I've seen guys kick the ball low and kick the guy in the ass

that's snapping the ball to him I've seen guys get hit in the head with the ball that's kicking it but I've never seen he missed the entire ball he wasn't even close to kicking the ball

no not even close And I'm with Jackson Dart Like what the Yeah that's what I said to That's exactly what I said Yeah What the F I'm like bro

I'm hoping that That doesn't cost him That doesn't cost him His job He lost his job In Atlanta Yeah yeah For missing kicks

He went somewhere else And shank some kicks Yeah Damn man You know You have to have mental toughness To play a professional sport And to be good at it

But when you get them demons as a kicker, it's like a golfer. You get the youths, David Duvall, Ian Baker-Fitch. You see guys, you see that second baseman, Chuck Loblock. They couldn't throw the ball to the first base. They play a second base. Yeah. They couldn't throw it.

Rick ain't killed. He was a pitcher. He had to move to the outfield on choke because he couldn't get the ball across the plate. But we've got a problem, monk. You got a problem. You have to understand. Certain positions on the football field, certain positions, they get chances over and over and over to prove themselves.

kickers games are won and lost on your goddamn leg games are one and lost and you can change the trajectory of a game and it's ending on your leg you don't have opportunity to be making those kind of mistakes and especially in games of importance now it's a bad thing that the goddamn giants are 2 and 11 so I mean it doesn't doesn't make any sense but but coaches want consistency at that one position if I have to be able to count on one thing

thing is having a kicker that can be consistent for me and always give us points once we get in field goal range. They might not be good right now, but I want to be around when they do get good so I get an opportunity to kick. But doing stuff like this here, guess what, Ocho? They're saying, I got to go into

the market, I got to get me a kicker. Yeah. Because the one we don't, the one that we have, he isn't reliable. Right. And I've got to be able to count on you. Because more times than not, these are one possession games. Yeah. You might have to kick the ball to get us in overtime, you might have to

win it. We don't know. Right. But I need to be able to trust you. I can't go out there, Lord, have mercy. Please let him make this kick. Every time you go out there. I mean, I'm going to have to pray every once in a while, but if I got to pray every time you go to kick, I got to pray for the P.A.T.

I got to pray for the field goal. I got to pray you don't kick it out of bounds. That's too much. I mean, I don't mind praying, Lord. Don't take this the wrong way. I don't mind praying. But I will I want to use some of those prayers for something beneficial. Yeah, right.

You know, you know, it's funny, too. Also, when it comes to kickers in the NFL, I know there's 32 of them, they're 32 teams, they're 32 kickers, but they just like quarterbacks, huh? They're like, they're just like, I'm talking about the good quarterbacks. I ain't, I'm not talking about you, you know, your regular, your Aubrey's in Dallas, your Cam Willis, your McPherson's, you know, those top dudes,

it's hard to find those that are consistent. Hell, if you play for the goddamn Cowboys, you get to the 50-50-yard line? Wait, you not even, no, you get to the 40 yard line. Not even your 40. Yeah, 60. You go from 60. You're in range.

Yep. You in range. Nick Pearson, Cincinnati kicker, he just hit 65, not too long ago. You get to the 50, you in range. Yeah, Cam Little kid to 68 yard. Cam Little, I said, yeah, Cam, that's what I meant, Cam Little. Hey, man, come on, man. It's only a few with them.

You're right. But, yeah, yeah, that was a, that was a. Like I said, I could be in a minority chat, but I don't think the Jazz is as far as people think they are. No. I think they got guys, I think, you know, Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence coming along. Fibodo is out. Philbadoe normally.

Was he out today? Because I didn't see him. I didn't see him. I think he's hurt. I don't know if he's going to be back. I don't know if they picked up his option, Ocho, his fifth year option. So I'm not sure he's going to be back. And then plus the fact that you got Abdul Carter, you took him with the, what,

second pick, third pick in the dress. So there's a likelihood that you're probably going to move on from Fibito. I'm not sure. But you got Brian Burns, who you played a lot of money for. You got a lot of money tied up. He got a lot of sex too now. Who that? Brian Burns.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying. So you've got pieces that you can build around. You got, like I said, Desda Lawrence is the top defensive lineman. You got Brian Burns, who's the top edge rutscher. You drafted Abdul Carter with the hope that he could be the opposite of Brian Burns, so you have guys that can play off each other. Like the Broncos got Benito and Cooper. Or you got verse and you got young at the Rams.

You got guys that can play off of each other. And so, hey, you fly the protection one way. I get one-on-one. Hey. Somebody got to eat. I just, I think the Giants are really, really close. I just think the quarterback needs to be a little smarter. Live to see another day.

You got to know when the journey is over. Right. Hey, everything, I get it. If it's a situation like in the Super Bowl where John had to do the helicopter, that's one thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But in a game like this here, you're on the sideline, bro. Get out of bounds.

I'd rather you go out of bounds and be two yards short as opposed to get the first down and take that shot. Right. Because, bro, you're not built for that. You're not built to take those kind of shots. No, not at all, not at all. He's exciting, though. He's exciting to watch.

Ocho, Mike Kafka was asked why Abdul Carter didn't play the first quarter. It was just my decision not to play. him. This is the second time in three weeks. Yes, sir. Ocho, you got draft the guy the third pick in the draft. Ain't no way you just make a decision to arbitrarily sit him out. Well, obviously something happened. It was discipline reasons.

We don't know exactly what it was. Ocho, he got disciplined a couple of weeks ago. What's not resonating to him? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know, young players. Remember, he fell asleep and missed a walkthrough. Yeah.

Oh, you know, hey, things happened. yada yada yada yada it ain't going to happen again lesson learn boom boom right here we are basically two three inside of a month yeah and we got this again oh cho what is it that he's not getting bro this is professional football you're not at penn state you're not at penn state and you can get away with that at penn state because you were the guy there are greater expectations of you abdul carter yeah oh cho yes this man think about it now this man say you know what what, I want 56. Well, if I can't get

56, let me get the double hockey sticks. Let me, let me get 11. Do he understands what those jerseys mean to the Giants? First of all, 56. You ain't going to name, you can't name, you can't name two. First of all, I think LT is the greatest

defensive player ever. Yeah. I can make a case, LT, is the greatest football player ever. Just give me a little time. I'll let you debate who you want to debate. Right. You could take Brady, you could take Peyton, you could take Jerry, and I can make a case.

that Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football player ever because he's the guy he made two positions famous no other player has made two positions famous he made the edge rusher famous and he made the left tackle famous because if you couldn't get a left tackle to block him you couldn't beat the Giants

and if you couldn't find an edge rush like LT to rush the quarterback you couldn't put pressure on the quarterback so he made two positions famous go back and stuff like I said I don't look LT you know the drugs and all that other stuff and he had some stuff off the field after after his career.

Right. But I don't think people realize because there are a lot of guys that's won three defensive player of the years and stuff. People don't realize how good LT was. They don't.

I understand. They do not real. I mean, whoever you think the best foot but the best defensive player that you've seen with your own eyes, if you're under the age of 40, whoever the best the player is,

make a case, and I'll make a case for LT and when I'm done, you're like, yeah, LT the best. Yeah. yeah whoever and i think there have been some fabulous i played in the era with l t with reggie with bruce with time with ray louis with uh mike singletary with leslie o'neill howie long i played in the league with some great ones yes but he's different he different he set the bar he set the stand for that position general

i tell you what when you name your top five defensive players, he ain't never left off that list. Nah, and most of the time he's number one. Most of the time he's won. You're absolutely right. But man, look at Ocho, watching the Patriots and seeing

how disciplined and how well coached they are. You know everything is easy when you have a quarterback too, huh? Oh, yeah. You understand that? When you have a quarterback like that with his decision making is as good as good as it, as good as it is,

I mean, goddamn, what, listen, Josh McDaniels, I don't know, I don't know what it is. Like everything fits over there offensively. Not only do you have a quarterback, you have the pieces, the complementary pieces that fit just right. You understand how to put each player in and in the right positions to play to their strengths

and hide their weaknesses, if there are any. But every player has weaknesses. Yeah, for sure. Yes, yes. You play to a player's strength, and you stay away from his weakness as much as you possibly can. Yeah, and he's, and Josh is master that, and Drake May is having a effing ball doing so. Unk, them boys, 11 and 2, man. Drake is in his sophomore year, right?

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