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Thanks to the coach, and thanks to that quarterback and those weapons they surrounded him with. But Brock Purdy had himself a night tonight, 2433, 303, 3rd, 3 touchdowns. He had an intercession. Krista McAfee says, hey, y'all know I'm still versatile. 23 carries, a buck 48. He had a touchdown. Brock Purdy, six carries, 28 yards, two touchdowns. Ricky Pyrrissol, 5 for 85.

Jake Tongs has 7 for 60 and a touchdown. Juan Jennings, 2 for 42. and a touchdown. And Krista McCaffrey always are going to show up in the stat sheet on the receiving end, four catches, 41 yards. But they made a great stand at the end of the ball game because Chicago was really, really put it. They put them under the gun, Ocho.

They put them under the gun. Yeah. But the difference was in this ball game is that every time the 49ers got the ball into the red zone, they put the ball into the end zone. They didn't kick any field goals, Ocho. Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from this ball game? listen obviously the way the game started off unc and you players need to understand purdy and juan jennings when i go two by two right and you watch film you go two by two

first play the game 98% of the time jaylon johnson knows okay they're going slam flat they're going slam flat right away what does he do he didn't even he said forget the quarterback he didn't bud jump he he didn't do no re-step he didn't do nothing he sat there he jumped it boom they jumped that touchdown seven nothing seven nothing right there off the back yep outside of that um there was no defense played after that play they tried they tried but there was no defense played after that play listen this is one of the better games that i've seen in a very very long time there's another game that was like this that was very very exciting it was the kansas city chiefs i forgot what year was on oh you're talking about with the rams yeah

On that Monday night game? Yes. This is almost similar to that. It was offensive juggernaut from both teams. Caleb Williams looks extremely good. I said before the season started, this is not the same bears. I understood how good Kelly Williams was. And what would happen once someone with the creative mind like Ben Johnson got there

and was able to utilize the tools that Caleb Williams has at his disposal, Brock Purdy. I'm not sure if he continues to put performance. is like this together and string them together. No Trent Williams, no Debo. Brandon Ayuk's not there. Obviously, he still has Christian McCaffrey. George Kittle was out.

George Kittle was out. Ricky Purcell played well. Hey, um, is it time to talk about Brock Purdy being in the league conversation, or is it too soon yet? No, that's not too soon. He's been in the league long enough for Joe. There wasn't a defense, but you're talking about maybe two of the top five signal callers in all of football.

You talk about Ben Johnson and you talk about Kyle Shanahan. And when you talk about great signal callers, you don't go very far without someone mentioning Kyle Shanahan. We know Josh McDaniel. We know Sean McVeigh. We know Andy Reed. But when you're talking about signal callers, you're going to mention Ben Johnson.

There's a reason why he got a head coaching job. We talk about Kyle Shanahan because the way he, hey, he's going to spread you out. And everybody, if you have a live number on, hey, you can get the ball, full back, running back, tight end, second tight end. third tight-in, first, second, third receiver. It does not matter.

I love the way Chicago spread the ball around. Like six, seven, eight guys caught passes tonight. So who do you kill on? Luther Burton showed that, okay, this is why they drafted me as high as they did. They did this without Roma dunzae. DJ Moore wasn't that involved, but you see Colston Loveland, a cold command. Those guys played really, really well.

It's going to be hard for it. When people ask, well, who you like in the NFC, I don't know. Yeah. I really don't know because you look at Seattle, you look at the Rams, you look at the 49ers, you look at Chicago,

I feel any of these teams can go into the other teams building and beat their ass. Yeah, absolutely. If you don't play your best football on a given Saturday or Sunday, come playoff time, you're going home,

especially in the NFC, because these quarterbacks can light you up. Yeah, and the funny thing you talk about is it's so hard to guess who, out the NFC is going to be the one

to go to the Super Bowl it's going to come down to your defense it's going to come down to the team defense because we know what they can do offensively

offensively the quarterbacks you just named Caleb Williams Matt Stafford Brock Purdy Sam Darnel Sam Darnel

Jalen Hertz Yeah Jalen Hertz Well listen the Eagles haven't looked the same on the Eagles haven't they haven't They haven't

Listen last year it was no question It was out of shadow of a doubt, offensive to the Eagles, you know what, they're going to Super Bowl. But listen, the NFC, I have no idea. I literally have no idea. They look really good.

That goddamn Luther Burton, boy, you have arrived, son. But Luther Burton, you have arrived. And all we've got to do now, you know, is you got to keep stacking them. Keep it going. Just keep stacking them. Game after game after game. They're going to continue to get you involved.

And damn near, he, honestly, next year, he's going to be the number one. Yeah. Because he's doing it. We're doing it week in and week out. Every week showing up. I know he had a costly drop towards the end of the game. But, but, but, but, oh, man, I like him, boy.

I like him, man. The Barrett clenched the NFC North title last night, thanks to the Packers' loss. While the 49th has clinched the playoff spot last week. Both teams are still in contention for the number one seed. The Seahawks right now possess the number one overall seed. They're 13 and 3. the 49ers are wildcard, they're 12 and 4. The Bears are in the two slot at 11 and 5.

The Eagles are in the third slot at 11 and 5. In Carolina, Tampa will decide the playoff who wins the NFC South next week when they go head to head. They're 8 and 8. Go ahead, don't you, I can tell you this right now. I'm not telling you I got the script, but I know what's going to happen. The Panthers are going to beat. The Panza are going to beat the Bucks.

I'm a Bucs fan. I'm a Floridian, but I'm just saying. saying, listen, the way the season is gone, and as well as the Panthers have played all season long, they're going to beat the bucks. It's a division game. They know each other very well. Yep. And I just know the edge is going to go to Carolina.

And listen, if you're a bed man, listen to me now. I'm telling you ahead of time, you know, some people are going to be mad. They're going to be upset that I said this, but the Panthers are going to win that game. I think the thing is, and we're going to talk about this a little later, excuse me, Baker hadn't played his best ball. You can't turn the football over. I don't care how well you throw it If you turn the football over

And you give teams put the ball in harm's way Bad things normally happen But when you look at this ball game I mean this is the second game I mean remember last Monday night Ocho against Indianapolis We saw what Brock Purdy did He had five touchdowns one interception

He followed that up with another virtuoso A three touchdown one interception game Christian McCaffrey 23 for a buck 40 They ran the ball 34 times 200 yards The first quarter took damn me four hours. I mean, I'm like, well, damn. Is the first quarter?

Because I looked up on choice. It's still 10 minutes to go and it's 14, 14. I'm like, well, damn. Yeah. This was a very good ball game and this is why quarterbacks, look, you pray and you ask to God, you say, God, I want to ask you for anything else. If I'm an owner or general manager, I'm trying to get a quarterback. Lord, please let him pan out.

And if he pays out, I won't ask you for anything else. Anything else. Hey, because you got a Caleb. week. Hey, I want to know, Ocho, because last year when he wasn't playing that well, they talked about his nail, his fingernails being painted. Do they know his fingernails still painted? Oh, yeah, they still painted. It wasn't nothing wrong with him. It wasn't nothing wrong with him. But that's not what they said. He can't play. He take the fingernail collar shot. He still got his nail painted. How he looking? Mm-hmm. Oh, he looks

a young. He looks phenomenal. He looks like one of the tier one quarterback's in phenomenal. Hold on, too. Now, he doesn't have done this all season long. Yes. This ain't a one game or two games. the three-game stretch. He's done this consistently all year long and he's the difference for this franchise and he's the face of it now. Yes.

And that's something that the Chicago Bears haven't had for a long time. Something to be excited about. Something to go to the games about. And their identity, what used to be their defense, is now they're often because they have someone at the helm that can get it done weekend and week out.

I sure hope they don't go to it because it's going to, you know, everybody seems to want to get a dome stadium so with the hopes, with the hopes of a Super Bowl with the hopes of getting a Final Four. There's enough, there are, there are too many teams already in the rotation. There are too many cities, always in the, already in the rotation with nice weather, the Arizona's, the New Orleans, the Atlanta's, the, the, the, the, the, California, the Miami's, there's enough.

Chicago, you're going to lose a lot. Denver, you'll lose a lot adding a dome stadium. A part of it is the elements. You want to bring somebody in there when it's freezing cold. You want it to be 10 degrees. below zero and somebody comes from a warm weather and you beat hell out of them. But everybody wants

to be don't, and I get it. You know, you want to get a new spade of the art stadium and we can entice the reason for the domes on show because you can have events you're around. When you're outside, ain't nobody going in no damn cold. I don't give a damn what type of stadium you got. If it's cold outside, but when we got a dome, you can have a Taylor Swift

or Beyonce. You can have a track to pull. And like they said, you can have a final four or you can have a bowl game and things of that nature going on. But I just think the thing is when I look at the Chicago Bears and I look at what they've done with Ben Johnson and you go out

and you get Joe Tuny and you get Dalman at center, Pro Bowl, Tuni, Pro Bowl, your guard, pro bowler. You look at what they've done to solidify it front to back. Now we're going to draft the Luther Burton. We drafted the Rome of Doomsay last year.

We got DJ Moore. We drafted Colston Loveland in the first round. We add him to an already cold commit. Man, hey, what's the Walker, Johnny Walker. Chicago's going to be good. They're going to be good. They're going to be good for a while. For a while.

That division is going to be tough for a while. Detroit, Green Bay, Chicago, San Fran, Los Angeles, Seattle. Boy, that's going to be a battle. Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's going to be a battle. But this was a very, very interesting game. I knew it was going to come down to whoever had to ball last, but when San Francisco had to, when they had to bow their backs, when they had to

stand tall, they did it. They stood up, they kept them out of the end zone. Because if you, you let them in the end zone, you're losing this game. Yeah. You let them in the end zone, you're losing the game, because it ain't going to be enough time left. Yeah. It's just not. It was, sure, with four seconds, four, five seconds on the clock. That would get. It was a wrap. They ran the lateral, you know, hooked it to him, got it to him. They had to go down and kill the clock, so I got one chance at the end zone. I got one chance. And give Robert Solich, his defense

been, but they didn't break. They gave up 440 yards of total offense. But, hey, Chicago's defense gave a 500, basically 500, 496 yards of total offense. But this game was a very exciting game.

Look, I like these type of games on show because I'm an offensive player. If you're a defensive player, you hate it. Yeah. The NFL loves it. More fans are like you and I love people going up and down the field as opposed to, man, I ain't trying to see no 13-10 ball game. That's not what they're looking for.

Go ahead, Ocho. No, no, that's it. No, you're good. You're good. I didn't hit every point I can hit on that game. And it was exciting. It was exciting. Next Saturday, Ocho, at 430, you got the Carolina Panthers

and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers for the division title on the line. Winner takes all. Somebody's going to the playoffs. Somebody's going home. And then you got the Broncos and the Broncos win. They're the number one seed. What other game is to be interested? Oh, Seattle travels to San Fran.

That's a Monday night game, huh? That's Saturday? Oh, they got two Saturday games. Okay, okay, they got two Saturday games, my bad. They got Carolina and Tampa. at 4.30, and then you got Seattle, Sam, Fran. Ooh, hey, hold on. That's Seattle San Fran.

Might look just like what we saw tonight. It might. It might. And then you got Sunday night, Ocho. Uh-huh. The Ravens versus the Steelers. Ooh. Oh, wait, that's for the AFC North, huh?

Winner take all. That's for the AFC North. I like it. Winner takes all. Those are the games that everybody's going to be locked in on. There's some, you know, look, the Broncos can sew up, home field. The Patriots are going to be looking.

The Patriots could possibly get that. The Jags, the Giants play the Titans. So a home field advantage can be, there's a lot to be determined. Seattle wins. Seattle's the number one seed throughout the playoffs. Who to Rams? The Rams got the Cardinals. So we got some games.

And this is what the NFL wanted. And you're not, first of all, if you're out of the playoffs, don't nobody carry down what you do anyway. You can sit whoever you want to. Go home if you want to. Just say, we forfeit. But this is what the NFL wanted. Because prior, Ocho, we had too many games where star players were sitting out,

while we're resting, getting ready for the playoffs. We can't move up or down. So we're just going to stand past. Now they have something on the line. Ain't no resting. Ain't no resting. So Saturday, you got Carolina Tampa for the division. in Tampa

and Saturday night you got Seattle, San Francisco. That could, yeah, because if Seattle wins, Seattle not only wins the NFC West, they also are the number one seed. Right. Who does that, who does the Rams?

Who does the Rams play? Rails play tonight, tomorrow night, right? Yeah. I don't know who does the real play. Well, we know they play Arizona because that's a division game, so they got to build a division opponent. Oh, the Falcons. Okay, yes, that's right, the Falcons.

Paul Falcons. Oh, Joe, remember we had this conversation. We had this conversation about Carolina. They had a 173 lead over New Orleans. Yes. And they let New Orleans come back and they nipped them and won the ball game 20 to 7. I say, you might look back and say,

know what, this was the division right here. But still, Tampa has lost a couple of games down the stretch that made this thing a lot more interesting than what we thought it was because Tampa was cruising right along, and the next thing you know, they slip and bump their heads and they allowed the Carolina Panthers to get right back in this thing. If a Lenovo gaming computer is on your holiday list, don't shop around.

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Let's take a listen to what Miles Garrett had to say. Yes, sir. To an extent, I feel like they were more worried about keeping me away from Aaron than, you know, getting the win. And I think that's what came back to the bottom. So, you know, they'll have to, well, fight it out with, with Baltimore next week, but I'm just proud of the guys

for fighting and giving this one. That's the main thing. I'm always going to keep it up. Oh, Joe, do you agree with what he had to say? Absolutely. I absolutely agree. I saw double teams. I saw triple teams.

Chips? It took away from them offensively what they wanted to do. Obviously, you don't have D.K. McHaff in. If you don't have D.K. McHaff, you need to do everything possible offensively to run your offense and make up for the productivity that you're not going to have from him.

And having a chip and double-team goddamn Miles Garrett the entire game takes away from exactly what he just said, doing the most you can from an officer standpoint to make sure you win that game. Now, the elements and the conditions played somewhat of a part in it too as well, but hell, the Browns had to play in the same conditions. Absolutely. Absolutely. I agree with what Miles had to say.

They put a lot of emphasis on that. They rolled the pocket more than they normally did. They had every time they always had a receiver to his side and tied-in or receiver, and on the way out, you chip your way out. Well, in the meantime, I mean, you're not getting into that route in a hurry because that's not how they approached Hutchinson. They were more concerned about, look, we don't want to be a part of your highlight tape. We don't want to be a part of your documentary.

Or history. Yes. Or history. So now you're going to look at like, okay, we didn't win. We come back. I'm trying to win. I'm trying to put people down the field. I'm trying to win the ballgame.

And if he gets a sack, he gets a sack. So who cares if he gets the sack? If we go ahead and close out the division. Now we just made it a lot more difficult. There's no guarantee that you're going to have T.J. Watt. I know you like to have T.J. Watt, but there's probably a long shot. It's probably less than 50-50 that you're going to have it.

But I agree. I thought Chador did some good things. I thought, you know, even you saw a prime grab his head and like, son, you know you can't do that. You can't throw the ball, cross field, hold it up there like you can't. You just can't. Yeah. You can't make those kind of mistakes. And turn over our premium at this time.

Go ahead, don't you? I'm sorry, the one you threw the Judy? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Judy got to play DB right down. Judy got to do everything he can in this power to knock that ball down. Even if you're not in position to make a play, do everything you can to make sure. that DB doesn't make it.

The first interception, the other interception, obviously it was tip. So that was an unfortunate. There was one that would drop where he threw a goddamn late to the goddamn flat, knowing good and well, you can't throw the ball late to the flat,

especially in it. 51, yeah, dropped it. The ball heavy. So it definitely not going to get there as fast as you wanted to. So there's certain things that's going to happen. He's going to continue to learn and grow through those pains and in those situations. And when those situations arrive,

again, you just can't make the mistakes twice. Yeah, I thought Jerry Judy caught what they threw to him, a Hal Fanan, and I thought that him going out really hurt them. He tweaked that growing earlier in the week, and it was very, like, questionable whether or not he's going to play. He caught the one deep pass, and the next thing, you know, he's out. So I definitely think that hurts your door a lot, because he's the guy that he trusts the most to throw to, and I can understand why, because a lot of time,

a lot of quarterbacks have a lot of faith in the tight end. It's a lot of easy throws for him. It's a lot of shallow cross, there's a lot of drag routes. It's a lot of, you know, five to 10-yard routes, Joe. And so that's an easy, especially in conditions like this, a defense like that, it's a mismatch because most of the time you're going to try to put a backer on him and they can't deal with fanning corners or safety. They're not big enough so he can just maneuver, maneuver them out of the way.

But I thought he did some good things today. There's still some things he need to improve on, like getting the ball out of his hand. It's okay to get the ball out of your hand. You're not going to really run away from. people. You're not. You're just not. Your feet ain't nifty like your dad's. But look, Cleveland

give them credit, Ocho. Yes, sir. I'm glad Cleveland not taking an approach that the Raiders took. Now, maybe if Miles was not on the cusp of this record, who knows what would happen, because we know what

the Raiders are doing. Ain't no secret about it. We know what they're doing. They didn't want have any chance to win this ball game. They want a high draft pick. With that being said, Cleveland are going for it. Shoulder 17 to 23, 186, one touchdown toward a deception. He was sacks twice. They really didn't run the ball particularly well today.

Nobody did anything well today, Ocho. To be honest with you, 160, 291, 291 yards total offense for the Steelers. Browns had 262. yeah it wasn't nothing to talk about um it really wasn't it really wasn't it really wasn't the goddamn steelers had me kind of nervous now at towards the end of that game got denzil war came up big twice oh cho twice ohio how me understand that's killing i understand you have familiarity with him but you really like that matchup valed el scanning on denzil war

Is that the matchup you really like? Who else you're going to? D.K. McHalf is out. I don't give a... Hold on. That is a pro bowler. And you're throwing to a guy that's bounced around the league.

How many teams has he been on in the last five years? You're going against one of the premier corners and that's the matchup that you like. Yeah. Hold on. Top three. We talk about top three.

But there's a situation where they have no one else they can go to. There's no one else you can put out there. Well, you can't go to him? So how close was he to do? catch a ball. Let me ask you a question. You watch, he went to him three times. Chat, how close was he completing any of those balls to Scantlin? No. Wasn't it close. Maybe he was hoping for a P.I. Yeah. But he's not a guy that Denzel Warfields he needs to P.I. against. He's like, my technique

is exquisite enough. I don't need to do anything special. He can't beat me. Yeah. Yeah. No, hell not. I'm not, man, please. I take my team. with Jono Smith, I'll take my chance with Frymouth, I'll take my chance with Adam Thielen. I take my chance with Kenner-Ga-Well on a Texas route or something. I am not effing with Denzel Ward.

Yeah, I fee. You see what they got? He wasn't even close. None of those balls were even close. And that last ball, he was just hoping for a PI. Man, Kareem, I'm doing Jabbar. Stack don't tack a stack on top a shot. Couldn't have caught that ball.

Couldn't have caught that. Yeah. Yeah. Man, please. You're a came out better going to John O'Smith or Frymoot. Yeah. I'm not fooling with Denzel Ward. So you're going to take, I mean, and I understand that there's some familiarity with him because he's played with you in Green Bay. I get all of that.

Not against that guy. Yeah. So if you got that guy going against Pat Sartan, you got that guy going against Stingling. You got that guy going against Denzel Ward. You're really going three cracks at him. him? Against him? Man, please.

But hey, they know, hey, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they're, they're supposed to say. Okay. What's he supposed to say? I wish you to spread it. A coach, you're going to say that. He had eligible, he was, he was, he had eligibility, eligibility on that play and certainly he's one of them that he's capable.

I got no qualms about us playing to win the game in the way that we did. yeah was it I don't know what the reporter's like nah I wish you to win somewhere else he's never going to say that the head coach is never going to say you trust the quarterback and especially a guy like Aaron Rogers my question is against Denzel Ward I mean but you know

you know before before before the snap Aaron takes his reads right everything is bunched up that chapter is closed everything is bunched in that chapter closed Listen to me, I got to have it right now. What other options do I have in D.K. Mekhaven is not in? Am I trusting Frymuth in that situation where I got to have it?

Good player, yes. But got to have it moment? DK is out. I have no choice but to go to my next best option. I got to take my shots with 11. So you're going to take your best, your next best option against one of the three best corners in all of football. You have no other options, though?

Yes, you do. Jano Smith, Friamuth, are better options against those guys feeling are better option against the guys they're going with than Banda, than Scantlin is going against Denzel Ward. You can't convince me. Right. Now, hold on. You telling me that's Chase?

You're telling me that's Injigpa? You're telling me that's one of those guys? Pooka Nacca. DeBonte? Okay. But also. You got me. Hey, hold on.

John Luce Smith was there the whole four quarters. Fribles was there the whole four quarters. The steel has only had six points with all those names you just had. Oh, the next best option. Did they pull scantling ass out the stands? He was there too. You'll make it seem like they got his ass out of the stands on the last drive. They brought his ass was playing the whole game also.

Man. Hell no. Look, and I think the thing, look, you're worried about Miles Garrett. So you already sped up in your mind because you know 95 is coming. We coming. You got a chip. You got a tackle. You got the guard that's always, okay, I'm making sure he's on the center.

I'm always going to double back. I'm going to roll the pocket. But in a situation like that, if you roll the pocket, you couldn't have to feel. They know you're not going to throw all the way back across the ground. So now you've got to drop back, straight back. The Steelers have lost four games in a row in Cleveland. The quarterbacks for the Browns have been Jacobi Bresset in 22, Dorian Thompson, Robinson in 23, James Winston in 24,

Shadoura Sanders in 25. Division game. I don't give a damn who the division is. Ocho, you know that. Talk to me. really division games against those guys Thompson's not even in the league the identity's always been the defense

and he ain't back the quarterback that defense that defense held him to six points today all I know is they won four games so what let me ask you question so where that defense been in those 12 games they lost well what hold on what you want them to do the defense can't put they can't put up points too now they can't

we can get you the ball back, but you're going to have to do something with that. Somebody scoring on them. Guess who the last playoff game they won against, Ocho? Who? Steelers. They dropped like 100 points on the Steelers.

How many points? Didn't they score like 38 points on the Steelers? They scored 48 on the Steelers. Damn. So you keep telling you keep telling me the defense, the defense. All I know is Cleveland's score 48. Yeah.

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available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It's been there. The Dolphins beat the Bucks, oh, Cho. It's hard to fathom that the Buc can still win the division next week, despite dropping seven of their past eight games. But if the Falcons lose or tie either the final two games, the rest of the Rams, to the Saints in Week 18,

the Bucs beat the Panthers. The Buc would get in based on record versus common opponents, four to four versus three and five. Man, I don't. I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened to a Tampa, Ocho. I don't. Yeah, I don't either.

I saw Mike Evans. Mike Evans was frustrated on. You don't see him show emotion, you know, very, very often. But he was frustrated today. Bacon Mayfield was running all over the place, trying to make plays work, trying to make things happen. Obviously, he used his legs very well. Costly interceptions, interception.

And the dolphins just played well today. They played well today. Quinn, Quinn Euras, he looked nice, huh? 14 to 22, 172, two touchdowns. And that often was moving up and down the field. Devon A. Chan, A. Chan looked good, too. 18 to 8.3. Jalen Wright, 5 for 56.

Theo Reese, Jr., had one catch for 63 yards at a touchdown. Doolock, 5 for 58, and a touchdown. Baker Mayfield was 33 of 156. 44, 3.46, two touchdowns, two turnovers. And he had two fumbles. He lost one. So he had three turnovers. Again, go back to last week. Another heavy turnover game. Yeah. They get themselves into trouble where Baker turns the ball over. Jalen McMillan, seven catches a buck 14. Chris Godwin Jr. 7 for a buck or eight and a touchdown. Mike Evans, three for 31 and a touchdown. They didn't run the ball particularly well. Bucking Irving, I saw

Bucky Irvin getting upset on the sideline and Tristan Worth was trying to calm him down like, hey, we'll be okay. We'll get this thing figured out. Hmm. Hmm. Ooh. What happened?

I'm just, this is not if you're Tampa. I mean, who you, I mean, you mess around and get Seattle. You must run to get the 49ers. You must try to get the Rams coming to your building. That's nasty word. I don't want that own. You're going home.

I don't want none of that. Hold on. Unless Baker Mayfield has an out-of-body performance against those teams, you're going to have to match offense for offense. You're going to have to match score for score. Quinn Ewers had eight incompletions. What do you think, Stafford? What do you think, Purdy?

What do you think? See, the only thing concerns me about Sam Donald is a turnover machine. Yeah. Those other two guys do a very good job of taking care of the football. Taking the ball, yeah. Sam Donald. Got the second most turnovers in the NFL. That's not good.

Mm-mm. Because that'll get your ass beat come playoff time. Hey, matter of fact, in Minnesota, what was the problem? What was the problem? He turned them all over and got blown out. Bingo. There you go. Got to be.

The Bengals. Yeah. The Bengals. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've seen the boy.

By the score of 37 to 14. But that wasn't the story. The story was guard Cody Ford provided the most surprising players in the NFL. Ocho, they put him outside. He's a guard. He weighs 303 pounds. Yeah. They threw him a stop right.

Joe said he went through his progressions. He wanted to throw it to chase. Chase was covered. He threw it out there to him. Ocho, he's turned. Uh-huh. And got 20. Hey, I was, I jumped up at my goddamn seat and said, what the?

You should have saw Joe Burroughs reaction. Joe Mount was wide open. like, what the hell? That is an office of lineman dream. To be able to score a touchdown, maybe run the ball like Refrigerator Perry did, but to go out and line up out wide at receiver. Yeah.

That's a stop route, break a tackle and gain 20 yards. Hold on. He almost scored. If he had scored, Hey, I'm going to turn it to you. Give him the ESP. That's an NFL player a year. If he to score, but the Cardinals ought to be embarrassed.

Yeah, oh, absolutely. They got to be embarrassed, don't you? But also, Uncle, you got to think about it. You got a 300-pound man out there. Hey, you're not used to tackling that. You're not used to tackling him low. Why are you trying to tackle 300 pounds up high? Hey, the first dude, tried to tackle him up high.

And he got exactly what he deserved. He got exactly what he deserved. But you could tell, hey, you know what you can tell to? Before you go on to the next thing, you're going to tell that when he wasn't as big, he must have played some type of offense. He probably played tight-in. He played some type of offense to look like that at 300 pounds with the ball in his hands. He probably played, he probably played, he probably played, he probably played, he probably played Ocho.

He probably played a tight end at some point in time. Yeah, absolutely. He played who? Because Ocho, you got to understand now, a lot of times they have wrist, you know, wrist protected so they wrist don't bend back. Yeah, yeah. They got a whole, they got the big, thick-ass gloves on. And everything taped up too. Yeah.

He caught that thing like it with nothing. Joe was 2431, 305, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked three times. Chase, 22 carries 101 yards. Excuse me, Chase Brown, 22 carries 101 yards. And he was told that thing. His mom, Chase, has seven for 60 for two touchdowns on nine targets. T have four for 59 on five targets.

Michael Wilson. Michael Wilson. Oh, Joe, I told you this kid. here. Hey, he's nice, um. Hey, he's the number he's the number. He's a number. Never mind. I ain't fin to say it.

Trey McBride 10 for 176. He now sets a new NFL record for the most reception of the season by tight end. He passed Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz had the record at 116. He now has 117 with a game to go.

I think Chase has 117, 117 catches. Puka has 1.14. So it's going to come down. It's going to really come down to the end. Well, obviously, you know, Chase is in the AFC.

Chase is going to lead the AFC and catches again. But it's going to come down to McBride and Puka who leads the NFC and catches. And I think you say Gronk led to the AFC and tighties and catches once upon a time. But Marvin Harrison, Jr., no receptions on one target. I remember that play

It was broken up That play was broken up by Dax Hill I remember that play It was a third down too Jacoby Bresed was 21 to 37 212 He was sacked four times

They didn't run the football So Cincinnati You know Cincinnati They've been playing a lot better defensive They've been getting after the quarterback Ocho They had what Four sacks today

Cedric Johnson had a sack Timar Stewart finally got a sack Finally got a sack Miles Murphy had a sack But they are playing better today Than what they played in a very, very long time And unfortunately it's going to be All for not

When Trey McBride made his first catch Of the early in the game in the second quarter He became the first tight-in in NFL history To have back-to-back 110 catch in multiple seasons He's the only tight-in this ever going over 100 twice, right? has a titan never had multiple hundred-catch season? He also set an NFL record. We mentioned a 117 catch.

He finished with 10 catches over the scene. Oh, he got 119. Pooka's at 114, right? With tomorrow's game to play. Okay. And Chase is at 117. Okay. The Seahawks beat the Panthers by the score of 27 to 10 for the six straight win.

Still need to beat the 49ers to have the number one seed. Even after winning 13 games, including six straight, the Seahawks, will need to beat the 49ers in week 18 to win the NFC West and secure home field throughout the playoffs. Seattle still has a glaring turnover problem. They've given the ball away 28 times this season, the second most in the NFL. Their two fumbles today came via Sam Darnel fumble and an interception.

Donald now leaves the league with 20 giveaways. Ocho, you turn the ball in the postseason. They're going home. I don't give them that how good you defense? is playing. He was 18 to 27, 147 yards, one touchdown, one interception. And he had a fumble. Zach Charbonneau, 18 carries a buck 10, Kenneth Walker the third, 15 for 51, 36 carries 163 yards. JSCN, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. He had nine catches for 72 yards. So he's going to, he's out of pace. He got a chance, oh, Joe, at 1800. Because he should be

He had, what do you have, 1639, so now he's over 1,700 with a chance. There ain't a whole lot of receivers that's ever had 1,800. Ain't a whole lot of receivers that's had 1,800 yards of the season. What's the, what's the record again? 1964. How many, how many yards we need to break that? What, a 200-yard game? Yeah.

no he would need he would need a hundred he's over 1700 so he would need 165 who they play next uh uh they got the 49ers oh well hell the way to the way the game the way that's got Luther Burton got 130 something so I know he's like with Luther Burton and I'm better than him yeah and they they he's gonna get way more opportunities too yeah So there's a good chance He might break that record, huh? We might.

He might. Really good chance. He might break that record. Bryce Young was 14 to 24, 54 yards. Ocho, they had a hundred and thirty-nine yards

of total offense. Hey, that goddamn. Damn, Seattle defense ain't no joke, boy. Boy, they're coming. Well, they... De Laugh played out of his damn mind. He got a sack.

He had a sack. DeLaw going to the Pro Bowl. Yeah. Hey, how come... He was like this with the Cowboys, wasn't he? He went to the Pro Bowl a couple of times. You heard me? Wasn't he good there? He got injured.

He kind of got Nick. But he needed to have a change of scenery. He needed to go somewhere else. He need to be somewhere else. DeLaw had a sack and a fumble recovery. uh maf he had a sack but uh yeah seattle's playing i mean this gonna be a hey that game next week seattle and 49 is oh joe they might score 40 apiece they might uh the eagles survive the bills 13 to 12 the eagles built up a 13 nothing halftime lead thanks to the defense

but the Eagles pointed five consecutive possessions in the second half allowing the bills to creep back. Per ESP and research, the 2025 Eagles are the first team since the 1987 Patriots to win multiple games in the season in which they didn't complete a second half pass. That's crazy.

Hers is the first quarterback in the play-by-play era, which means 1978, to go 0 or 7 or worse in multiple games in a season. Philadelphia improved the 9-0. this season when Hurts throws for fewer than 200 yards. That's funny how that works,

and it's mind-boggling to me how it makes sense. How in games where he doesn't throw for a lot, they still win the game. And some of the games where he's thrown for a lot, they've lost those games. I don't think he's throwing for a lot this year, Ocho. Do you know how many yards they had it?

How many get 300-yard games he got? I think he got one 300-yard game this year, Joe. Hold on. I forgot what the stat line was in the fourth quarter. How many yards are orphansed did they have in the second half? 17. 17. How is that even possible?

I don't care nothing about the elements. I don't care anything about the conditions. How do you have 17 yards of offense total and still win a game? I don't get it. He has one 300-yard game this year, Ocho. And that was my thing. Ocho, I could see. I agree with what McDonald's, what the Seahawks did, Ocho.

Yes. Because if I kick the field, if I kick the P.A.T. Ocho, the next score wins the game. I'm going to win it or lose it in my possession. Ocho, in this situation, they had 17 yards in the second half. Yeah. They had done nothing. I'm going to take my chances in overtime. Yes, sir.

I'm not going to, because far too many times is teams bail them out. I'm going to make Jalen Hurts beat me. Oh, so 13 or 27, 110 yards. They had 82 yards rushing on 26 carries. They had 200 yards of total offense. That's crazy. Oh, so I repeat again. They had 200 yards of total offense.

That's crazy. There's some plays, I'm sure that. Go to, oh, Oh, Ocho, you go to over, Ocho, if it's a situation where a team going up and down the field, we can't stop. Ocho, they had 17 yards and 30 damn minutes. Yeah, that's crazy. And even though Josh had it, Josh had him, he rushed the throat, he missed it. Well, he saw that pressure out of his periphery on, that pressure made him speed up his throat.

Listen, that was easy, that was easy. All right, for us sitting here, that's not that quarterback, and we don't have a, a D.N. or a detackle, you know, that we can see in our peripheral vision coming down and hit us, it's a little different. It's easy for us to say, oh, it was an easy throw,

but that's not how it looked at Josh Allen. It's an easy throw for that guy, for an NFL MVP quarterback. Oh, yeah, for the average fan, the hell no, that's not easy. Yeah. Yeah. But he rushed it when he didn't have to.

He had more time than he think. They spared him up. Mm-hmm. But I would kick the PAT. I mean, look, and maybe because, hey, if he doesn't block, remember, they got the first PAT block. He kicked it low. Jaylor and Carter blocked.

Hold on. Low. Boy, you see how high Jailen Carter was? Man, stop it, don't you show. That ball. Man, you see that damn ball. Man, that ball was so damn low. Hey, I don't know.

I heard Jalen Carter got like a 40, 42 inch vertical, boy. No. Now, that's just what I heard. Yeah, okay. I don't know where you heard that from. But no, I just, I'm going, if it's a situation like this, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, like tonight's game, it's back and forth. Yeah. I don't want neither one of these teams to get the ball, Ocho.

I'm going to try to win it because I don't believe, I don't believe my defense. I don't believe my defense can hold. Because you saw what both teams were going up and down the field. Tats off to the 49ers. But in that situation, Ocho, I'm going to play for overtime. Yeah. Because they haven't done anything. And I know, Ocho, guess what?

I'm going to get a possession. It's not the first team to score. So if that's the case, Ocho, if I win the toss, I want the Eagles to get the ball. Hold on. You know what? And I can say this on why we already going to the playoffs. We already going to the playoffs.

So why am I worried about overtime? I won't win the game. Theoretically, they still have an outside chance to have an outside chance in the more seed. Oh, okay. But even with those implications. They still had a chance to win the division. Right. I understand.

I understand. I can see if this game was on the line and we have no choice but to win it for us to make the playoffs. Okay. Now, that's different. I'm playing for all the time. But hell, we're going anyway, whether we get the first seed, whether we get a buy or not, you know what, I'm going to try to win this game.

I'm going to try to win it. And I think that's the only explanation I can think of why they did what they did. And what did you call them? Again, your guy was a healthy strap, a healthy scratch. Kian, man. It was funny.

Oh, Cho, you remember the press conference? It was funny. Guess why I got this from. I'm about to go back. It's funny. Yeah. But boy, let me tell you something When the rubber need to meet the road

Yeah They're not laughing Ocho Cinco couldn't be Ocho Cinco if he's not producing They ain't putting up with that Oh no They're not putting up with that Shannon Sharp could not talk the way Shannon Sharp talk If Shannon Sharp wasn't producing on the field

It's simple All those sweaty lines and Kiki kid And you out there dancing They say bro, he ain't learned They said Ocho he ain't learned his lesson Yeah And listen, my antics was way over the top. On the field.

Your play was way over the top. Yeah. It matched up. Can I tell you something real quick? Go ahead. Just for the people in the chat. There are two players in the NFL right now that have the best personality by far. If they can get their games, it doesn't have to be equivalent to their personality.

but anywhere near, just anywhere near in the realm as close to their personality is on the field, boy, they would run the NFL. Kian Coleman, if his game, if he can get his game to match his personality, and they got damn Xavier Leggett. Oh, my God. They can run, I'm talking about off the field.

Well, you got to get up against press coverage. It's kind of hard to be a good receiving NFL if you can't get off red man coverage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, that'll keep you in the league for a long time, huh? Being able to beat man. Yeah. That'll keep you around for a long time.

But if you can't beat man coverage, you're either selling cars or coaching. You're way. Or you give me your office coordinator to hell because he always got to create ways for you to get open. No, no, no, you don't get your offer yourself that long. Because you'll be out of the league. That, that too.

You got two. If you were wire receiving, if you play that position, you got two choices. Either get beat man coverage. or you're selling cards or you're coaching those are your only two options oh you know what there's another one now a lot of NFL players guess what they do

Ocho the personal trainers so I add another one to the list you coaching you selling cards or you personal training hey you just gave me an idea for another job I'm glad you just said that all that kiki kin all that stuff that that's fine and dandy

yeah I want to I want to work with them two boys right there so bad, boy. I want to work with them boys so bad. When Keon Coleman getting back to Buffalo next year, they ain't going to have no choice. But they have him on that field. I need Xavier Legget down here in Miami with me.

I need you for one month. That's it. But I love y'all boys, boy. Y'all is special. Y'all could be special. I'm telling you, I see it with my own eyes. Man. Give me one month.

Please, that's it. Also, the Steelers have declined to void D.K. METCats, $45 million in guarantees after his altercation with the Detroit fan resulted in the two-game suspension. Per Jay Glazer, and this is Jay Glazer talking, the Fox Insider. This is what Jay Glazer said this morning about D.K. Madcap's altercation with the Lions fan, Ryan Kennedy. I actually have the security communication between the Detroit Lions and Seattle Seahawks security from the game last year when D.K. Medcaf, when he was with the Seahawks, complained about this exact same fan to security.

He asked that the fan be removed over derogatory comments. I'm not going to repeat what those comments are on here. Obviously, we do not condone ever hitting a fan or anyone else. but this is to say when investigated during the game individuals around him state and corroborated that the fan was being out of line

and indeed said these derogatory comments they even asked us to remove the ugly guy now Ocho this is what this is what was said last year let's put context

this was D.K. Winfell to his security, he asked that the fan be removed because he was saying things that was derogatory. The security investigated and asked people that was around him, yes, he said what D.K. said he said. Now, that's not to say that he said it this time, but there is a history with this young man because he made it seem as this. This was so far out of the realm of possibility or probability that he would ever say. Anything in which D.K. said, he's saying, it's just hard for me. And I could be wrong. I could be dead ass wrong. But it's hard for me to believe D.K. would react in the matter in which he reacted,

because somebody called that man his government name. Even after he said, he said it on Steelers radio. When he did an interview, I prefer that called me DeKahlin. But it's so hard for people to pronounce. I just go by D.K. and let it rock. I mean, listen, I said what I said for a reason. Everybody's talking about, oh, why are you lying? Why are you doing this? You're a man ain't fin a lie, man.

You're not going to lie. And it's okay. It's okay, you know? You know, those that want to take up for the lying fans and take it for Mr. Kennedy. I mean, so be it. No one is reacting like that based on someone just saying your government name over and over and over and you just don't you don't no and then they have the audio that comes out the audio is not even the actual individual we talk about that's a partner that's it that's

somebody that's related to him the video that came out i think that's his uh it's his son his son recorded that and then i think it was his nephew that said he's been going to the game trying to get this reaction and it finally worked Hey, it's unfortunate, but obviously, I knew the Steelers weren't going to avoid, you know, the remaining guaranteed money. I mean, that's not going to happen. They weren't going to do that. So I'm happy for him.

I just, it sucks that D.K. now has to deal with going to court and having to, I'm assuming maybe settle. It won't be a significant amount, you know, like this guy maybe thinks he's going to get based on the past history and in the proof. of the past history of allegations or abuse or whatever it may be. And it just, what bothers me is, is you go to a game and instead of acting like a civilized fan, you act like an asshole. You act like an asshole.

And all of a sudden, when something happens, now you get in front of the camera with your lawyer, and now all of a sudden you're so civilized, you know? You're so perfect. Now you're the goddamn victim. But you're out there, the goddamn game, acting a fucking ass with your blue wig on, you know, making a fool of yourself,

making the rest of the Detroit Lion fans look bad. Enjoy the game, Hegel from afar, and just enjoy the goddamn game. All the shenanigans is unnecessary. I hold the lions culpable for this because the day was communication

between the Seahawks and the Lions, and you know he said this, why would you allow him to come back? Even when fans around that area said he uttered what he uttered last, when the Seahawks came there last year. The fans around in this area said, yes, he said those things. Lions, why would you allow?

Because you revoked somebody's tickets that got into it. Who did he get into it with last year? They got into it with somebody last year. And they took their season tickets from them. They took the tickets from them. Yeah. See, this could have been remedied. See, the NFL didn't have a choice but to suspend it

because they tried to remove themselves from culpability. here. You know a lawsuit coming, Ocho. Yeah. I mean, listen, he ain't going to be and listen, it ain't going to be that. I can tell you that. I can tell you that. Ain't going to be that. Yeah. Yeah.

And they removed the fan, right? Right. You remember the guy last year they got into it with the floor? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. What did what the Green Bay do? They took his tickets. Now, in this situation, the security Right, that's what I'm saying. But it's, hold on, from what, from what Jay Glazer said, I actually have security communication between the Detroit Lions and the Seattle Seahawks.

Security from the game last year when D.K. was in Seattle and complained about the exact same fan to security. He asked that the fan be removed over derogatory comments. I'm not going to repeat what those comments. are obviously we don't condone ever hitting a fan or anyone else but in this it says we investigated during the game the individuals around him states and corroborate what the fan was being out of line and indeed said these derogatory statements they even asked us to remove the guy now with that being said why would not the lions this is their fan this is one of their ticket holders why wouldn't they do that this could have been removed when the had when the fan had the

altercation with le floor last year they took his tickets immediately yeah well they listen one thing about it was the coach oh they oh they're not having that they're not they're not having that why not hold on oh joe he did everything right see yeah this is what people get upset with the system I do everything right and the system still fails me. Oh, Cho? I do everything right. You said,

reported to your security. Security goes to the lions. They talk to people in the area and you still fail me. What choice do I have? I felt I had nowhere else to turn. You wouldn't take proper steps, proper precautions.

Now guess what's going to happen? Now they're going to want to remove it. They're going to want to remove it. They're going to want to remove. It's too late. Oh Joe, why would you close the bar and door once the cows are out? That's a good one. I like that.

Yeah, hey, it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. And listen, I'm all for, and you know how I am, and I know you like that too. I love being in hostile environments. I love fans talking trash. I love talking back. But now you think you're invisible because you understand. Well, now I can get away with saying whatever I want.

Mm-hmm. Like, come on, man. Come on now. But, Ocho, but you remember, there are only words when some people use words against others. There are more than words when other people use other words against others. Come on, I'm listening. I'm picking up what you're putting down. You ain't got to explain it to me.

Some things are offered without explanation. What's understood don't need to be explained. And chat, y'all know. what I'm talking about. All I'm saying is D.K. did everything he was supposed to do. He reported the incident to his security. Security took it to the Detroit Lions. Jay Glazer.

Now, if it's a lie, Jay Glazer, not true. I know Jay. Been knowing him a long time. If he says he had, he was the one that broke a spy gate. He actually had the footage. And maybe if he didn't have the footage, because they might have were to try to sweep that under the road. But he had the actual

footage. Now, with that being said, he says, I have the communications. The NFL's going to want to know, want to know why the Lions didn't do anything. I can promise you that. Yeah. The NFL's going to want to know, okay, if you had this information and it was corroborated that he said this, why was he still allowed to come into this building?

Because they got all these fancy slogans, aspire change, say no to hate. They got all these things written on the helmets and on the field and all that. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I guarantee you I know one thing, won't have the more problems at any more fans, no time soon. No, no, no, no, no, because, I mean, some fans go to the thing, try to, to, to, to try to incite that kind of. And then, well, it's just, and people, and what, what makes me it's only words? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

A lot of people have been killed behind words. Mm. Mm. Yeah. Is that what you go to the, if that what you go to the game for? No. Is that what you go to the game for? Listen, you can go to the game.

You can heckle. You can have fun. You can talk trash. But going, going, going. Derogatory. Being derogatory using racial. That is not, that is not heckling. It's never been heckling.

Yeah, I know. I know that part. That's what I said. But going that far, that's, that's a no-no. And you know, you know that. Of course. Of course. And all you, all I, all I can do is do what I'm supposed to do.

Mm. It's go through my security. They go through their, they go through the proper channels, meet with the Lions and says, look, this gentleman here, there are fans in the area, uh, area that corroborate what D.K. said, he said, fans in the era, fans in the era. area, heard him say it, and corroborated. The NFL is going to want to know why didn't the Lions take the proper steps? Because we saw last year when a fan had a confrontation with Matt LaFleur, they removed, they took his season tickets.

Yeah. The NFL is going to want to know why wasn't something done to this gentleman. But you know, the NFL, they move swift too. that they're going to put a rule in place now for the fans. They're going to put a rule in place now. They should. And it's going to happen swiftly.

So anytime there's an issue at a game, they're going to make sure this doesn't happen again. They're going to make sure this doesn't happen again. You say, Ocho, you're sorry, you suck, you're not good. Your team, that's good. That's good. That's okay. That's okay.

When you start using whatever derogate, whatever term, whether it's an Asian, whether it's whomever, black, Hispanic, whatever the case may be, once you start using derogatory terms, that's not heckling. Yeah, you don't cross the line. That's not.

You start talking about somebody's wife or kid. That's not heckling. So this notion that, oh, that's all a part of it and you, no, that's not a part of it. It's never have been. Because if that's the case, I don't know why they try. to do, shut down all these things.

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