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Well, guys, we didn't get much defense tonight, O'Sha.
We had a very entertaining game.
If you like offense, if you like points, this was the game for your liking.
Both quarterbacks played outstanding.
George Love, 31 of 43, 33, 33, 33, 33, 337 passing yards, three touchdowns, clean game, zero interceptions.
Yeah.
One sack.
Dak Prescott, 30 or 40, 319, three touchdowns, no interceptions.
One sack, clean game.
Uh, Green Bay, rushed the ball, 35.
five times for a buck 64 the cowboys rush the ball 26 times for buck 17 if you like if you like
offense yeah was the game for you if you wanted to see some defense i'm sorry you'll have to wait
the next week very interesting ball game i don't really have a lot to complain about yeah only thing
i will question ocho yes sir matt lefleur right before the half oh the last two possessions before
the before the half oh jo you struggled offensively yeah now if you reverse it you struggle your
two drives now the last three drives you do what you did i agree with him going for it but after
you've struggled you don't do that yeah but other than that i got no qualms of what happened tonight
what you like what you like what you like hey honestly when the game started it was a doozy i thought
it was going to be a blowout uncle was 12 too i think i was 12 12 13 too yeah well i mean something
like then i'm like well listen when the packer got the ball again on their third officer series
I say that if they go up again
and get the 20
I'm going to bed and taking me a nap
because there's no way
I'm being honest
it's no way the Cowboys are going to be able to come back
especially I think it was the first quarter
they had what 60 yards of offense
something like that
but obviously it turned out to be a very good game
a very entertaining game
from the end of the second quarter
on into the third and fourth
and listen Romeo Dobbs
he had his coming out party tonight
he had if we didn't know who quarter
receiver number one was for the Packers, we know now.
Romeo Dubs showed out the night and played one hell of a game.
Deck Prox, God damn, why am I talking so fast?
Deck Prescott played a phenomenal game.
George Piggins, looked very good tonight.
Made some really clutch plays.
Yep.
Some dope stuff showing what he can do with the ball.
If you put it in his hands, he doesn't always have to be a deep ball.
He has that ability to have that yak as well.
But outside of that, man, they ran the both teams, ran the ball well.
They were well balanced with the run and the pass.
And I enjoyed it.
I hope Josh Jacobs was okay, though.
I hope he's okay.
Yeah, I hope you guys took my little thing I did today.
You see what I did.
You know, I told Michael going to get a sack.
I said, Indiana Jones wasn't going to throw for two touchdowns.
What was my other pick?
Yeah, Jaila Herds was going to have more than a yard.
I knew that.
you know easy um that was the only thing oh cho i agree with you i mean look cowboys i mean both
teams you laughed at me when i said oh cho i'm not so sure i mean i like the addition for the
michael going to the packers right but i asked i said ohcho are you sure they're better than the rams
yeah they're better in the rams are you sure i'm going to ask you again ocho are you sure
whoa whoa whoa you don't remember you asking me about them being better than the rams
Yes, because I say I would say the Eagles
and I say I would put the Rams in front of the Packers
and you said no, no, no.
And so I ask again, I'm going to ask you one more time.
Right, let me, I'm going to get me this.
Now, if we're doing a comparison, now offensively,
it's a toss up.
You can go either way.
Now, if we're going to, if we're going to go from a defensive standpoint.
You got to go from a team standpoint.
Well, then now I would go at the ramp because defensively,
they're a little better.
Okay.
Okay, that was, a little better.
If they'd been together, it's going to take Michael some time to get worked in.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at both defenses.
Yeah.
If I'm defensive coordinators, I will watch the tape, but I'm not going to show it to the team.
Because what am I going to show, what am I going to show, I mean, really, what am I going to show?
I let the guy go 31 or 43, 33, 37, three touchdowns, zero interceptions.
I let the other guy go 31 or 40, 319, 3 touchdown, 0 interceptions.
Right.
What am I showing?
right i'm trying i'm looking at i'm looking at hobbs uh i think he's number 21 for the packers
also he damn their back pedal out the end zone you do realize if you loud the guy to catch the ball
in the end zone and you tackle him is still a touchdown yeah bro how far you going to back up
yeah you can't you can't keep backing up you're in the end oh joe you got he has to understand
where he is on the field right you take two steps that's it i'm not backing up anymore you
Now you gotta come through me.
If anything, you shouldn't move at all.
If I'm put your heels on the go,
no, I'm not giving that up.
Cause he had just got out flanked because they ran a switch
and he had outside leverage and they got him out outside.
So I said, okay, fine.
You had outside leverage, I give him that.
But you can't let a tight end run that bull,
that bulljib slant route and you keep backing up
and you a corner.
Corners that let tight, if that's a, if that's Kittle,
if that's one of these upper estherstals,
And I'm not saying I like Ferguson.
I've liked them since he's gotten there.
But corners, you let tight ends beat you on slant rise in the goal line.
Yeah.
You ain't going to be in the league long, bro.
You'll be bouncing around.
That can't happen.
That can't happen.
But other than that, like I said, I don't know where we go.
I mean, I love George.
Boy, he cut that thing, raise the thing.
Ultra, what the hell was he thinking?
You just, you just keep that last play.
At the end of the game?
Yes.
They did that clock management almost heard of that.
They almost lost that game.
based on the clock management he was trying to get everybody to the line obviously it worked out all you do
what a while would you attempt to pass in that situation and what happened if they scored that touchdown
then what what what happened if they got that picked then what okay well listen that's the chance
hey listen that's the chance because at that point in time they were already playing for the field
goal yeah yeah i mean listen look i'm taking a little much time off the clock as i possibly can
because look cowboys had their possession we've got our possession right we don't want to give them the ball back
with any time on the clock.
Okay, I get all of that.
Yeah.
But he has to be smarter.
You see the coach who's late like, bro, what, what you do with?
Yeah.
I mean, I think he was trying to plan.
I'm trying to play hero ball.
We know if we get a field goal, the game ends in the tie.
I'm going to take one more shot and try to leave a second, maybe two on the clock,
and see if we can kick a field goal to win it.
If I didn't know better, I swear that guy had some ties to Green Bay, that clock guy.
But I was the longest.
It's every you see, I had to, that would like.
Hey.
I mean, you know, let's see,
George Love lost a fumble.
So 11 tackles, Quay Walker.
I just, oh, Cho, honestly, I just don't know.
Right.
Because Iber Flutes, the defensive coordinator for the Cowboys,
he doesn't like to bring pressure.
And I just don't know if how,
I don't know how you survive in today's game
if you let the guy just sit back.
then pat the ball. And this, this is the funny thing. They plan, they, they, they, they got four.
They only bring four. They're not, let's nobody. They plan zone. And when you play a team
like the Packers, and you run that zone and not get no pressure, it just stretches everything out,
defensively, it stretches everything out, and the holes is big as hell. Yep. And all the players
got to do, you can go right down the field and just pick them apart. Jordan Love can be surgical,
which he was like, he was surgical, because,
you're not getting enough pressure to get goddamn Jordan Love off his spot rushing
throws or whatever you need to do to throw the time and that offense off.
And that's what happened.
Somebody got to add some pressure.
I was hoping your Daveyon Clowny made some type of impact tonight.
He really wasn't as effective as you like him to be.
But listen, it was a great game if you like offense.
If you like points.
As far as defense goes, as far as defense goes, that there was a no show tonight.
on both sides of the boat.
This is the best, I mean, look,
the Cowboys could ill afford to lose this game.
I mean, ties, look,
ties like kissing a beautiful woman through a screen.
Right.
There ain't really nothing going on, no, Cho.
You can just say that was a beautiful woman on the other side,
but did you really touch it?
Is he real or was that AI?
No moral victories.
No moral victory.
Yeah, so in a situation, it's not a loss.
So all things being equal,
right.
I'd rather be one, two, and one.
yeah as opposed to one and three yeah let's be let's be real uh uh and we'll see where it comes
down hey that time might come in and it might help you down the road but you couldn't you couldn't
you couldn't go down you couldn't be one and three and the eagles are four and oh the eagle's a four
and oh hey i can't wait till we get to that game but go ahead god damn uh but you know look the cowboy
George picking showed why.
Tobert made a heck of a play.
I thought that he was trying to throw the ball out.
I thought he was trying to throw the ball away too.
About it, yep, yep.
And somehow Tobrit came down with it.
Turpin made a couple of plays.
Yeah.
I mean, look, they got guys,
Illinois, he stepped up and made some plays.
I mean, the guys stepped up and made plays for the Cowboys tonight.
And that's what they needed offensively.
They needed guys to step up.
The city being out, they needed everybody to step up.
George Pickens, you're neat, you.
Yeah.
Show us why you want $30 plus million a year to be for a receiver.
Show us why.
He showed you $8.4.34, two touchdowns on 11 targets.
Jalen Tober was a high draft pick.
He got some opportunities in a situation like this, Ocho,
this is when you get opportunities in this moment.
This is where you show, we can count on him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I believe they always thought, they knew they could count.
on George Pickens because of what he's did in Pittsburgh.
He just needed a change of scenery.
He needed to clear the deck, go some plays, get a fresh start, start all over again.
But these other guys, you see Tobrit, you see Turpin, you see, Illinois, those guys
stepping up and making plays.
Yeah.
Me, the only thing I can say with Green Bay, get Golden more involved.
He got too much speed not to be involved, Ocho.
He got too much speed, he got too much speed, Ocho.
Hey, you got to understand, right?
if as fast as he is as dynamic as he is with speed like that
if they felt comfortable putting them in more in positions to make more
plays he would they would have him doing them there there is something
when you have a player like that with that kind of speed you use them so obviously
there there might be things that we don't know about that we can see where they
feel okay he's not really good at this so we're going to
to have him in certain situations doing some of the things that we know he's good at.
Right.
Because Romeo Dobbs looks like the guy.
I thought Golden came in to be the number one guy, but, well, 87 ain't giving up that spot.
But if you look at Ocho, they really only threw the ball to go, only through the ball
the Dobbs up around the goal line.
He had three touchdowns, and then he caught that one with Blan kind of like he reached with
the wrong hand.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But other than that, they really didn't give him a whole lot of balls in the field of
plate. Most of it, like, he had, what, three or four catches right there around,
right around the goal line. He made the most of those. And that's what you want. Like, hey,
all things being equal, hey, give me the tubs. Um, but I think if they can get golden involved,
I think he's going to make this offense even more dynamic Ocho because he got speed to burn.
I was surprised they didn't call that PI because nine times out of 10, Ocho, on Bland on that,
on that rail, that shot up the rail, they call that. On the left side towards the game.
Yes. Yeah. They call that.
I would hate for the refs to be the reason on changing the outcome of the game.
Let the players play.
That was like an, eh, eh, it was, you know.
I gave you the watch.
They're going to come out and say that should have been a flag.
You think so?
But that don't do me no good.
Right, right, right.
I would prefer you not even tell me, because now I'm going to be mad.
If, if you lost the game, if you lost the game,
then it's okay.
But the fact that the game ended in the tie,
I'm glad they didn't call it
because I hate when the rest get in the way
of changing the outcome of a game
instead of just letting the players play.
Yeah, but I thought Jordan Love,
I mean, he made a couple of plays like, okay,
but other than that, I can't be mad at him.
I really can't because, I mean,
he's only in his fifth year
and he still there's some things that he can clean up.
But on that four down,
when he threw that ball to golden,
he had some mustard on that.
Oh, yeah, he did.
He had some steam on it.
Yeah, he did.
But I thought he played really, really well.
I thought Jacob ran the ball hard.
He started making people miss on a couple of those runs.
I was like, damn, somebody gonna need some ankle,
some ankle transplant because he tearing people's ankles up,
left and right.
Yeah, he was.
Javonte Williams, now you see him another year removed
from that ACL surgery.
He's starting to look like that Carolina, Javante Williams,
dragging people, making people miss.
Hey, he were toting that rock, boy.
I mean, I don't, I don't see any signs of him.
having an ACR injury based on his performance and the way you ran the ball tonight.
Yes.
Being able to be able to cut and jump stop and all that and coming to balance and
explode and I'm like, well, God damn, what?
I think, Ocho had the game not gotten so, you know, they could have ran him more.
Right.
But they fell behind and so, you know, we want to get.
Got to play catch up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I think, you know what?
I think blocking that P.A.T.
Ocho gave them a life because they were a different team after they blocked that P.
than before because Green Bay was kind of having their way with them.
Yeah.
And then they blocked that PAT and got a jolt of life.
And the next thing, you know, they're right back in the ball game.
Give the Cowboys a lot of credit.
Like I said, I don't think they, I don't think, you know, look,
this is only four games into the season.
Yeah.
But the likelihood of you getting to the destination that you want to end up at
and you start one and three isn't very good.
It's not likely.
One, two and one, it still gives you a chance because you still get the Eagles.
You still got two games against the Giants.
You've got two games against the commanders, and you have another game against the Eagles,
and you have your out of conference, you're out of conference, you're out of division games.
So we'll see how that shapes out.
Offensively, I think they're good.
My concerns is defense, oh Joe.
I just don't know if giving up 40 points, oh, Joe, is it at home?
You give it up 40 points at home.
Yeah, yeah.
Hey, shit, they gave, they gave up 40 also.
Godwin gave up 40 that first round of the playoffs.
Remember a few years ago now?
Oh, yeah.
Well, they gave up 40.
I think they gave up 48 then.
But this is the thing.
This is the good side of things.
Not only are you missing CD Lamb
and everyone else stepping up
and trying to make up for the production
that CD Lamb would have had,
but they also scored.
Okay, you gave up 40, but you're scoring 40.
So offensively, you're playing extremely well,
and the defense's fight of the ball
just has to find a way to catch up.
Find a way to get one or two stops in those four quarters.
That would have made a difference in the game.
Oh, Cho, but can't, I mean, there, there haven't been very many defenses that you can just say, hey, go hunt with four and they go attack the quarterback.
Right.
It's been very few.
Now, there, it's been done.
Yeah.
But it's been very few times.
The Eagles last year could get home with four.
And they would play coverage.
Fangio does not like to sacrifice that back in.
And he had those big hogs and they could they could collapse the pocket inside with Davis and Carter.
And then those edge guys were screaming off the edge.
And they would rotate them.
And they had eight, they could go eight deep and they just go, just go, go, go, go.
But I don't see that with the Cowboys.
I'm not seeing that.
Sam Williams came back.
He looked good.
They had a few guys that flashed.
Yeah.
But I think in order for the Cowboys to play this style of defense, yeah, boy, you're asking an awful lot, man, you're asking an awful lot.
lot for your secondary man because like you said they're expanding to an area well i'm just going to go
go sit down in there where you vacated every every time and that for that folk got to get it but this
is this is the thing you got to understand on you have to have the personnel to be able to do it he's not
listen for a reason yeah because he doesn't want he doesn't want to expose the back end yeah
you're only bliss and four and the back end still exposed thank you you only bring it for i mean
excuse yeah um it's uh but that's his style of play if you look at
at him when he was the head coach of when he was an indie yeah what do you do that's the
style of play yeah you go watch him when he was in chicago he's the head coach look at his style
now you look at him this is who he is yeah same way now on the flip side you go look at
kansas city anytime kansas city when he gets threatened what are you going to do he'll
hit you heat you up i'm coming to get you you come you get down to here you
there are you i'm coming to get you get you yeah that's not hey but but but and honestly
this would make spagg's defense so good yes he has the personnel to be able to do and execute
exactly what he needs you to do the game they had we'll get to that i don't want to go too much into
it but uh a 40 point tie i mean i mean i mean i i'm trying to think have i never i've never
tie the game so I don't know how I would feel I just know I look it's kind of like playing
cards you know I'm saying don't Joe it's like and you get a push I didn't sit down at the blackjack
table to pull that's that down to win yeah so I guess I guess it's like pushing you know I'm saying
hey I didn't lose no money but I didn't win money when I don't sit down there to say okay yeah
push yeah no bro I'm trying to win something but I guess in this situation I don't know how to feel
I've never been in this situation before had you have
Have you ever had a tie game in your career?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
But listen, if I played for the Cowboys, if I played for the Packers, I would feel good.
I'd be upset.
You didn't lose, huh?
Yeah, I'd feel good.
I didn't lose.
I'd be upset.
We didn't win the game, but we have some great things we have to build off of.
Defensively, we need to work.
Offensively, they could take the day off.
Offense, y'all would take Monday and Tuesday off.
Defense, we see y'all here in the film room Monday, Monday night.
Matter of fact, even on Tuesday, on your off day, Tuesday, bring your ass in here again.
yeah they um who but uh that game did some numbers oh yeah i can imagine i this is probably
gonna be the highest rated sunday night game they've had in quite some time maybe about 20 28 29
million yeah yeah yeah right now yeah cowboys it's a close game yeah it was back and forth in the
fourth quarter it goes into overtime so yeah it it peaked i'll agree with you oh cho i'm saying
probably i like it but the green bay packers and the dallas cowboys they needed what 70 minutes
and they still couldn't determine the winner they have a tie 4040 join love was 31 of 43
3 37 and three touchdowns no interceptions that prets got 31 of 40 319 three touchdowns
no interceptions uh i mean you look at it 500 yards for the about almost 500 yards of offense for
the Packers, a little over 400 for the Cowboys, but they played to a 40-40 tie and
onward and upward.
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Go ahead. Touchdown pass with less than two minutes.
minutes remaining to send the Rams to a 20, 27, 20 win over the Colts at so far.
The Colts made so many mistakes, Ocho, one play before the go-head touchdown.
The Colts only had 10 men on the field.
Then they had a holding penalty in the gate of a 53-yard touchdown run by Jonathan Taylor.
And also, they had a 76-yard touchdown reception that turned into a touchback.
And Hady Mitchell fumble the ball as he crossed the goal line.
So look, it's no consolation.
But, you know, if I mean, I'm looking at a game like, bro, we gave up a touchdown
with 10 players on the field.
We had a holding pillar and they get a touchdown.
We had another touchdown, bro.
The Colts are better than we think.
Yeah.
I mean, that's the only way I look at it, Ocho.
The coach are better than we thought.
Wait, did you see that, that 53-yard run by Jonathan Taylor, they got called back?
Mm-hmm.
Man, boy, buddy is nice, boy.
Yeah.
He is the real deal.
We didn't talk about him last year, Ocho,
because Sequin and Derek Henry
Yeah, they was out of the world.
But if you go back and look at his numbers,
yeah, he's a pro, he's a pro, he's a pro bowler.
He's been an all pro.
There's a reason why.
Matthew Stafford was 29 of 41, 375, three touchdowns, zero picks.
Hey, a, a, a, a, a, uh,
Roll off them Pooka Nakuwa numbers real quick.
A Puga had 13 catches for a buck 70,
a touchdown on 15 targets.
2-2 had one for 88 on two targets.
Devante Adams, 4 for 56, a touchdown on six targets.
I mean, 13 for 170.
Mm-hmm.
They won the game.
Mm-hmm.
A.J. Brown, one for seven yards.
They said, look, we won the game.
Pooka had 13 for 170.
Now, at the end of the day, what did Philly and the rounds both do?
When?
I get it.
You preach it to the choir.
I absolutely 1,000 percent understand AJ's frustration.
But I'm just telling you, you know, you know,
not going to convince the curve because the fans want to win they're not concerned about
a j brown stat you know that i know that and the team's not concerned yeah shit all right
they're not yeah you right hey hey wiggily get out of them man getting it was
cutting up uh the colts puka had 13 for a buck 70 further leading his league NFL league
in both categories hey he's going to mess right hey how many cases
is he got now 40 42 I think he must right he might he must right to go get 150
160 yeah how many is it how many he got 42 right yeah yeah something like that
uh I was gonna touch down the title score today he became the second player in NFL
history to have 40 receptions for 500 yards in his team's first four games
dog dog that's crazy do you hear what you just said mm 40 reception
in four games.
Mm-hmm.
My God.
Bro, all they did is do what they did.
You remember when Cooper Cup had that historic season?
Yeah.
Insert Pooka to Cua.
Cool, exactly.
Yeah, same place.
Same everything.
That's crazy.
And he has somebody on the other side that can open it up.
Because remember when they brought O'Dell in there?
Yeah.
Odell was still could make you pay if you're singing him.
Devante can make you pay.
So he gets.
He made him pay last week.
Mm-hmm.
He made him pay the week before that.
And they made sure this game, okay,
Devante going crazy right now.
Let's get our young bull back where he's supposed to be.
Mm-hmm.
It's funny how that works.
You see how they can make a constant effort
to get who they want the ball?
Yeah.
And I think the thing is, Ocho,
is that when we start talking about all the receivers,
we leave Pooka out of the equation.
Pooka McCuah is in the mix.
Oh, yeah, he is.
Now, I'm not saying I'm taking him over a Jetta or Chase,
but there ain't a whole lot of other receivers
I'm taking in front of him because he's physical.
Yeah.
He doesn't.
See, I like guys do nasty work on Joe.
Everybody wants to catch the gold ball,
everybody wants to catch the pole,
and catch the nine route.
But what about the, what about the guy that's going to catch that under?
What about the guy that's going to catch that three steps,
three steps land. What about the guy that's going to catch, hey, going to catch that bubble
screen or that jail break? Mm-hmm. He's going to get tattooed. Yeah, he do it all, man.
Hey, that we can run the jet suite with. Mm-hmm. We, hey, y'all better start giving pookin,
give him pook his credit. I know, I know he's not conventional. He don't look like the guys that
we think are the best. Right. Well, he in the comedy. But, hey, he doesn't, he don't earn the
stripes now. He came in as a rookie and did what he did and he backed it up and he's backing it up
again. Yeah. And they're going to have to back the truck up. Oh, yes. Oh, Cho, the first game
of the day, the Steelers beat the Minnesota Vikings over in Ireland by the score of 2421. The
Steelers defense put together its best showing of the season. Collected six sacks, 10 tackles
for loss against Carson Wentz. With the third interception, T.J. Watt became one.
one of seven players with at least 100 sacks and eight career interceptions.
The other six are in the Hall of Fame, LT, Richard Dent, Chris Dolman, rest his soul,
Jason Taylor's, Pelt, Julius Peppers, and Ricky Jack.
That's some very, very elite company that Mr. Watt finds himself in.
Absolutely.
Well, you see Aaron Rodgers and goddamn D.K. today?
I did.
Oh, it's funny.
That got, hey, boy, D.K., hey, that goddamn, that skinny pulls,
and he threw that thing right off the ear, the backer.
Yep.
And that safety took a bad angle.
Man, D.K. said, man, stop playing with me, man.
I'm going to catch you in the end zone, homie.
I'm okay.
Listen, they look really good today.
It was a good.
It was a good game, but the Steelers looked very good today.
And I think there's only one quarterback that could have made the Steelers look
the way they looked today based on the throws that he threw today.
And that was Aaron Rogers.
Boy, Aaron Rogers was out there scrambling up.
He took off.
18 or 22 for 200 yards on a touchdown and no interceptions.
He played a clean game.
He did.
And when he put that ball 29 times that I do question, why would you go for it on
fourth down instead of kicking the field goal?
But other than that, I thought they played really well.
Yeah.
Justin Jetta, 10 catches for a buck 26 on 11 targets.
Your Addison, four for 114 on eight targets.
Bro, Addison need his butt kick.
Did you see that guy, that linebacker went and got him?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was tired.
That's a linebacker, Ocho.
He just got back, huh?
I don't give a.
He just got back.
Unless he was tied up, had his legs tied in the basement.
Ain't no linebacker supposed to want a ride receiver down.
You do understand.
Listen, or Addison ain't nothing, but Fofo,
these linebackers that they run four, four, four, five.
So they run about the same.
Fofo and catching Fofo.
Hey, when that monkey jump on your back in the middle of the game,
will you not as fresh as you are when it start?
That monkey, hey, that monkey heavy.
Ocho, that man, it wasn't no angle.
He went and got it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, that lactic acid bill up now.
And ain't that going to bill up.
Hey, you got to be Yussein boat to come get me with the least.
like that.
You ain't come to get me as a wide receiver
and that's a linebacker.
Oh, Joe, D.K, the Steelers in the Sunday
averaging the fewish air yards per attempt,
but they lead the league in yards after the catch
in the early second quarter.
Rogers hit D.K. on a slant.
D.K. took, truck one final defender
getting into the end zone, an 80 yard touchdown.
What did DK have?
DK had five for buck 26, one touchdown on five targets,
80 yard. Gainwell, six for 35, but Gainwell had 19 carries, 99 yards, and two touchdowns.
So they had 29 rush attempts, 131 yards, and two touchdowns.
Yeah, Wentz, 30 for 46, 352 touchdowns, two interceptions, six sacks.
They pressured him.
They hounded him all day.
He was on him, Matt.
Redmond had two sacks.
I mean, considering they had all those sacks, no, I'm looking at the wrong thing, look at the wrong thing.
Hebrick had one and a half, Benton had one and a half, Elliot had one, Queen had one, T.J.
T.J. Watt had one. Queen had three tackles for losses. Wilson had two tackle for losses.
T.J. Hebring had a tackle for loss. I think.
Ramsey left this game with an injury, didn't he?
Hamstring.
He pretended like he had one and got one for real.
And then really got one for real.
Steelers look good.
Steelers look good.
Minnesota got 15 in the,
maybe could have done something if that's magnificent signs.
They get that ball in.
And maybe they have an extra 30, 40 seconds to play with, and they don't have to rush.
But we'll never know.
But give the Steelers credit, they bowed their back.
They did what they needed to do.
They found a way to win this ballgame.
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Oh, Cho.
Yo.
Game you just alluded to.
Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Before you even start.
Before you even start.
Now, what I'm going to need you to do,
I don't want to hear you say foot or ball.
You've been talking about the Ravens is your team.
And I told you was only there for two weeks.
But you eluded and wanted to be.
adamant about the Ravens
being your team. I need you to
keep that same energy
that you have for Joe Burrow
when things aren't going well
with Joe, especially last year. Keep that
same energy for eight
for that pomp and old legend
with today's
performance. Now I'm going to let you go
and at any point I feel
you shuck it and jiving
I'm going to interrupt, but go ahead.
Go ahead.
Keep that same energy. Your day comes.
Your day coming tomorrow around this time.
I just want you to know your day coming.
Oh, hey, hey, listen, you're going to be real sad if you go, if you go 0 for two.
You got one team lost today.
Yeah.
And your other team will lose tomorrow.
It won't be two.
It won't be two.
All right.
Lamar Jackson leaves the Ravens in a 37-20 loss to the Chief with hamstring issues.
Baltimore is now one in three for the first time since 2015.
Yeah.
And two games behind the Steelers and the AFC North.
Ocho, how much trouble are the Ravens and Lamar Jackson in as we currently speak?
Boy them boys in hell of trouble, you hear me?
They're in hell of trouble.
They're in a lot of trouble.
For one, I'm not even going to talk about the injuries first.
I just want to talk about the defense.
They can't stop nobody.
They can't stop the run.
They can't stop the pass.
They can't stop Nate Daniel.
Nothing outside of that.
The good thing for the Baltimore Ravens.
You're not facing the Kansas City Chiefs every week.
So offensively, you're probably going to be very good against everybody else.
With Spags dialed up the day, pressure, pressure, pressure.
We're not going to allow Lamar to sit back there and have his way.
Not only that, when he does drop back, when he is in the shotgun, we're going to have a spy.
Matter of fact, we're going to blitz and have a spy.
because I trust my back in to be able to handle their business
and doing what they need to do.
And it worked numbers.
It was phenomenal.
The game plan that Spag came in with defensively worked phenomenal.
I'm trying to figure out what Baltimore, look, Spags has a history.
If he feels threatened, he's going to blitz you.
Yeah.
You get down to his territory, he's going to blitz you.
Uh-huh.
You know this.
it seemed like the Ravens everybody knows this except the Ravens now they really they had no answer
for it oh cho it's been a while they did not they did not that offensive line Ronnie staley went out
and so now you got a backup end at the most important position at the left tackle your right guard
isn't playing up to snuff and so now you're weakened in two areas yeah you really couldn't get
until you run game. Look, they had 166 yards of 17 carriers, but 71 of that came when the game
without a reach, Justice Hill cracked off one. But you're able to neutralize Derek Henry. He only
had eight carries for 42 yards. Yeah. He's not that kind of back that can give you that kind
of. Now, he's more like as he gets going. Now, he can pop off one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But this is what you see from the Chief Defense. God damn.
Super Bowl, we think it's Saquan going to have a day.
What Spag said?
Oh, no, no, no, no.
If anybody's going to beat us, it ain't going to be 26.
You got to beat them to throw the ball.
Well, hell, if you're coming into a game like today,
what's the first thing you say?
Well, we're taking two people out.
We're taking two, we're not, we're taking two,
but we're knocking two birds with one stone.
We're going to spy Lamar Jackson on Pathdowns and bliss at the same time.
And anything with Derek Henry, uh-uh, we got to see you.
We got the hat-ass.
You won't be breaking off nothing.
Hey, man and boy,
we're laying that wood out there today, boy.
If you go back and look at how teams are beating
the Chiefs in the postseason,
throw the ball.
First time they lost with Patrick Mahomes
is the quarterback.
What did Tom Brady do?
Go back and look at Tom Brady numbers.
Yeah.
You go back and look at Joe Burrow,
they threw the ball.
Yeah.
You go back and look at Tampa in the Super Bowl.
They threw the ball.
You've got to be able to throw the ball
because Spag's got to take.
something away yeah what he wants to take away he wants to make you one-dimensional so that way he
can just focus on stopping the past right let you run it now he can't focus on what he needs to
focus on your quarterback has to be up to par and he has to beat you throwing the football and you can't
turn it over you can't turn it over you got it you got to protect you got to protect the ball
against spags if you want to beat it yeah um Lamar was 14 to 21 47 one touchdown one of
perceptions. Uh, he fumbled one got a look got a look got hit from the back. Uh,
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Wait a minute. I need the same energy you have for Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow ain't played. I'm not. No,
no, no, no. When Joe, when we lose, you have all this energy and Joe should have did this and
Joe can't turn the ball over and Joe can't do that. I need you to have the same energy you have a Joe for
Lamar. Okay. Okay. Hey, did. Hey, Lamar, that's my dog, right? Did he take himself out the game today or was he hurt? He was
hamstring. It was reported that he had a hamstring injury. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Well, I need, I need you to be very critical of your team. That's your team, right? That's one of my teams. Yes. I'm trying to make sure. I'm, I'm, the energy. The energy is not adding up based on the way you were talking yesterday. Okay. Hello.
So, did you expect, hold on, did you expect the Ravens to beat Kansas City and Kansas City?
Oh, so, oh, is that what we doing?
Is that what we doing?
No, I'm just asking.
So we're saying that the Ravens can't, they can win on the road?
Is that what you're telling me?
Yeah, they can.
Are you making excuses?
No.
Hello, the Chiefs are one and three, huh?
The Chiefs are one and three.
And the Ravens are one and six now against the Chiefs.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me finish, land.
Let me finish.
Go ahead, finish.
Let me cook.
Lamar Jackson.
Yes.
It's one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
And he's correct.
Yes.
Yes.
I expect Lamar Jackson and that defense that once was feared at one point to go in there
and be able to beat the goddamn cheese.
Yes, I do.
They got Lamar Jackson and they got Derek Henry.
I expect it.
Think about it.
So last year they had Lamar Jackson and when he was an MVP and the defense was
better than that.
Yeah.
And Baltimore and Kansas City came into their building.
Yeah.
In the AFC championship game, what happened?
Because what we have seen is that what happened today, Ocho?
Ocho, O'H, Lamar turned the ball over twice.
Yeah, okay.
You're not going to be the team.
See, you heard what you just?
I need you to say that.
I need you to say it.
I need you to get a death.
We're both breaking out of the game.
You can say it.
No, no, no, no, no.
People want me to let you talk, so I was trying to let you talk.
Hold on.
I need you to do eight like you do Joe.
You, and you be real hyped, you be real,
enthusiastic he'd be real passionate about the reason we lost it could Joe turn the ball over he needs more no well you you lost for two
the same reason the same reason the bingles lose is the same reason the raven's lose is because Lamar turned the ball over okay and the defense up okay okay I just
okay I just want to hear it out your mouth that's what you but you know I'm not breaking news right excuse me
interrupt your normally scheduled program and to break this news and you want me to give you an amber alert
Baltimore Ravens defense isn't very good.
Yeah.
We haven't seen Patrick Mahomes look like this in a very long time.
All season.
All season.
I don't know if we've seen him look like, like 25 or 37, 27, 24 touchdowns are clean.
Well, the last time we saw him throw for four touchdowns.
We haven't seen this, this, uh, Patrick Mahomes in an extremely long time.
And he looked very, very comfortable.
Uh, uh, they ran the ball.
They did, they did a, uh, worthy, Pacheco,
ran hard.
Kareem Hunt came and he got some big time.
Hold on.
Talk about Taekwine now.
Hey,
let me tell you something.
I don't know if y'all noticed this,
but if you want to have a good game,
y'all come on and talk to Uncle and on Choy on Nightcap.
Everybody that comes on the show for some reason,
they go crazy.
Melissa Jefferson.
They go crazy.
Taquan.
Rishon Gary.
Going crazy.
Henley.
Hey.
I'm just saying it.
I tell you.
Hey, a matter of fact, all the Ravens fans that,
there man. Hey, uh, make sure y'all check on butter. Make sure butter scrape. Yeah. I mean,
think, Ocho, I mean, the Chiefs hadn't scored 35. What was the last time the Chiefs
scored 35 points? You probably got to go by all the way back to, uh, 35, 23. I don't think
they scored 30. Oh, look, speaking, speaking of 30 and 35 points, um, last year when the Chiefs
were playing games, the games they're losing this year, those are the games that they won.
They lose in the close games. They lose. They,
losing all the close games. This is the first time the Chiefs have looked like the Chiefs of
old in a very long time. Very long time. Yes. Very long time. Because they were all in one score
game. Remember Ocho one score game. A field goal. Yeah. They win by one. They win by two. They
went by three. They went by four. They were all these one score games. This is the first time
that they've won by, I mean, a comfortable margin. Yeah.
So the last time they scored more than 30 was against the Raiders in November of 23. So the last time they scored more than 30 was against the Raiders in November of 23. So,
almost two years, that's what, that's what the Ravens defense have allowed Kansas City to do.
Right.
So in almost two years since they scored more than 30, they just go in there and made it look easy.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Well, this is the funny thing, I know, I know, I'm, I'm being funny about the Ravens.
You know, I love my bangles, but the Ravens are going to be okay.
As bad as their defense is, their identity is not their defense.
Their identity is their offense.
As long as you have number eight,
it's no different than when we talk about the Buffalo Bills.
There's no different than we talk about the Bengals.
Obviously, Joe Burroughs out.
But as long as you have eight, you're going to always be in contention.
I don't care if you're one in three.
I don't care if you're one and four.
Their team is so good offensively.
It can score 40 and put up 28 a game.
You're not playing against the Kansas City Chiefs every day.
You're not playing against Spags or a defense like that every single day.
other teams you're going to play aren't going to have the personnel to say we're going to blitz
and have a goddamn spy that's not that that that's not the makeup of other teams so that's how
i know the ravens are not down in the dumps in matter of fact they they're they fans so fickle
huh the fan throwing jerseys all in the trash they they're making fun of lamar it's about you know
lamars uh like jam like come on man oh joe let's this is what we do the very thing we that we
He criticized Josh Allen for playing great, but he had turnovers and he couldn't overcome him.
His defense, and we blamed everybody.
At what point in time do we say, Lamar, you got to stop turning the ball over?
We did this for Josh Allen for years because Josh Allen would play great.
He would throw an interception in the end zone.
He would follow the ball trying to do too much.
Go back and look at Lamar in the games that he's lost, especially big, big games.
look at his turnovers.
Yeah.
Look at Kansas City in the championship.
Look at Buffalo.
Today, one pick, one fumble.
When your defense is as inept as it is,
the last thing you want to do is put them back on the field,
I want to, I want them to play as little as possible.
Yeah.
That's the thing, what the Cowboys are up against.
As good as the Cowboys office is,
unfortunately, you got to play,
you got to put your defense back on the field.
And I want them to play as little as possible.
So guess what happens?
I turned the ball over.
I break, Joe Burrell knows about this.
I turned the ball over.
I got to put the team, the unit that I least want to be on the field.
Right.
Back on the field.
Yeah.
Now, I don't know what's going to happen.
You don't look.
I don't advocate anything.
But I just think the thing is, is that I don't know what Zach Orr is calling.
I don't know what's going on.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
This is what we will not do.
What?
We will not blame the defense coordinator for the wolves and the struggles of the defense
because them boys they got back there, Wiggins, Marlon Humphrey,
Kyle Hamilton, who they just paid $237 trillion.
No, y'all got to get it done.
A wozzy, whatever the coach calls.
A woozy.
A woozy, whatever.
Whatever the coach called.
A woozy.
You got an excuse.
Hold on.
That was the Woolsey for the Cowboys.
He played with Cincinnati.
Wasn't he in Cincinnati?
That's all the men.
They're calling first down because you throw the ball on him is a first down.
That what they call it?
Hey.
He's on the Ravens now, but he was with Cincinnati.
Wasn't he with the Cowboys also?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, on first down.
Yeah, I know first down.
Yeah, I know first down.
That's his nickname you call him first down.
Throw it on him.
First down.
Oh, so.
Oh, so Philly survives in town for 31.25, the bus cut into the Philly's 24th,
three lead, thanks to a large part the touchdown passes of 77 and 72 yards by Baker
Mayfield, making the two longest plays against the Eagles defense since
DeC Fangio became de-coordinator.
Jalen Hertz had zero passing yards in the second half
becoming the first quarterback to win a game
with eight or more passing attempts and zero passing yards
in the second half since Panthers quarterback Jake Dallone
in week 10 of the 2008 season at Oakland.
He was 0 of 9 for zero yards.
There's only been two quarterbacks in league history
that have wins in such games since at least.
least 1991. Yeah. Hey, we can't do this, huh? We can't do that. We can't do that. You can't,
listen, you, you, you do me a favor. What? Ask as how much does Devante Smith make it? How much
does A.J. Brown make? Well, we know how much Devante Smith make. What is it?
AJ makes 30, 30, what, 32 million. 32 million. 32 or 33 million.
And I think Devonte makes like 27, 26, 27.
Okay, you got a $33 million receiver.
You got a $27 million receiver.
And they combine for four catches for 36 yards a day.
But you got the win.
You got the win.
Yeah.
Now, as, as, it's not even the quarterback fault.
It ain't even, we're not even blame it to him.
Herr's fault.
As an officer coordinator, as an offense, as a head coach,
How can you even be okay?
Even be okay just because you're winning the game
and not having some of your best players involved.
Do you understand what that does the players mentally?
I don't think fans understand.
They don't care they win it.
The first thing fans say, well, we won the game.
Yes, we won the game.
But these players would love to contribute
and help to win those said games.
Yeah.
Uh, did you, did you, uh, pull up, uh, AJ Brown's tweet?
The cryptic tweet? Oh, man, listen, it's clear.
It wasn't no cryptic tweet.
This is what he tweeted out the game.
If you're not welcomed, not listen to, quietly withdraw, don't make a scene, shrug your
shoulders and be on your way.
The man just wants, the man has said it over and over, uh, he keeps saying the same thing
over and over.
He had to go through it last year.
He had to read his book on the sideline to keep himself calm.
so he doesn't get frustrated.
He wears that seal in his chest
so he has to conduct himself a certain way.
The man wants to contribute
and be productive and help the offense.
Yes, we're winning the games,
but I would like to help us win.
You're paying me $33,000 million for a reason.
Not only am I the number one receiver,
I'm the captain of the team.
Allow me to feel a part of the offense.
Pug and Kua caught a high 13 catches
to date for 170 yards.
Yeah. You mean to tell me you can design plays
or put goddamn A.J. Brown and Devonte Smith
and create their positions to get them the ball?
You're never going to create a scenario
where the fans feel sorry for A.J. Brown as long as you're winning.
Because everybody says, they say the most important thing
is the winning. I don't care about stats.
I care about winning. Well, you're winning.
You know they care about stats.
I know they care about stats. You know they care about stats.
We care about steps for a reason because we go to the table.
It's the only thing we have to lean on.
It's the only thing we as players have to lean on.
Well, listen, I deserve this amount of money because look at my production.
Look at my numbers.
We allow stuff like this to happen.
And you don't speak out about it as a receiver because you're winning.
When it's time to go to the table, you can't mention nothing about them wins
if you don't have the production to match it.
You can't say, oh, what I'm on the field, we win in.
there's a production. You're not helping us win.
That's the game that they're going to play.
The people on the outside watching that love the game,
they don't understand that.
I'm telling you, and it's going to happen,
I guarantee you, I swear for God, I'm telling you.
They're going to use this against him.
We're winning, but your production doesn't match your salary.
You're really not worth $32 million.
Because we're winning without you,
we can win without you making that kind of.
of money and it's going
backfire. I think
the thing that's frustrating to him
is that so many balls
sell out of bounds and he don't even have a chance
to catch him. Yeah. Yeah.
That's what's frustrated though, Joe. At least give me a chance.
Yeah. Okay, we're going to make it
50-50. That's 100% no chance
of a completion. With him is 80-20.
So you put
the ball in play with A.J.
Brown is 80-20.
He's coming down with that.
He's coming down with that.
just put it in the vicinity just put it in the area i got you he showed that last week they had no choice
but to throw he put it in the area what he did came down with it they dodged the bullet today
they got a block punt and baker made a terrible i mean he made a horrible decision on the
interception they they dodged the bullet um give them credit um they find ways to
good football teams find ways to win bad football teams find ways to lose yes
sir good football team and they're finding ways to win um and uh uh i get it i get it i get a j's
frustration um we've all been there um well most of us has been there everybody jerry ain't
never been there jerry don't know what it's like laugh is gerald some of these guys
don't know what it's like to go and and have two catches and things like like like
like that.
He had seven yards.
A.J. Brown, top five receiver in the NFL to date,
has seven yards in a four-quarter game.
Seven.
That's pathetic.
This ain't high school.
This ain't peewee.
I don't give a fuck if you did win.
You don't have your number one receiver that you pay $33 million
with seven yards in a four-quarter game.
It's tough.
Hey, J. Brown, hold your head, boy.
Hold tight.
Hold tight.
You got that seat on your chest for a reason.
Nah, just click your account
and just make sure that money deposited.
Nah, ain't about the money.
He ain't about the money.
I want to help my team win.
I want to be a part of the offense.
Well, keep blocking.
That's all I can tell it right now, Ocho.
Hey, uh, just, come on, man.
Oh, Cho, just went out, when, maybe this week will be a situation where it was last week.
Remember how he came on in the second half and he took the game over against the Rams?
Yeah.
Maybe that, maybe that rears its head this week.
So.
The Giants earned their first win of the season.
Beating the charges 21 to 18 rookie quarterback Jackson Dart in his first career start.
He completed 13 of 20 passes, 111 yards, a touchdowns, no interception.
But the Giants lost Malik neighbors in the second quarter to what is believed to be an ACL injury.
Excuse me, Odell Beckham tweeted after the neighbor's injury, dear NFL, I mean this with the utmost love and respect.
We, the NFL, take all precautions in the world with everything else when it
comes to players' health and safety.
Please, please, please get rid of this turf.
Thank you in advance.
Love.
Respect, and you know I love the Giants,
but death life has taken too many talented players away from the game.
I know it's not all turf's fault,
but maybe it's where we've gotten all research done
to the church state is the highest quality as possible.
At least we can start that discussion.
Oh, Cho, we're looking at from 20 to 2025.
There have been at least 16 documented ACE,
and Achilles injuries at MetLife Stadium.
Aaron Rogers Achilles, Jalen Phillips Achilles, Nick Bosa, ACL, Malik Neighbors' suspected ACL.
What you're thinking, don't you know, Joe?
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
I played on that same turf.
I played in that same turf out there in goddamn Cincinnati.
I played in the same turf for 11 goddamn years.
He ain't got nothing to do with no goddamn turf.
If it was grass, if something's going to pull.
if something's going to pop, it's going to pop,
regardless of what the surface is that's below you.
It doesn't matter.
It had nothing to do.
I mean, we got to get that out of our mind.
We got to get that out of our mind.
Oh, we're suffering these injuries because of the surface we're playing on.
No, that's coming from within.
That's within.
That's the ground.
The ground has nothing to do with that at all.
I'm just being honest.
It doesn't.
It had no correlation at all.
People get, people get ACLs,
and Achilles on regular grass.
It's the same thing.
But are they happening with the same frequency?
Oh, come on, man.
So let me ask you a question.
It has no bearing.
Well, so why have there been so many ACL and Achilles injuries
in that stadium specifically?
I mean, let's say that stadium specifically, right?
Why have there been so many ACL and Achilles injuries in general?
Why has it risen, not just in MetLife, just in general?
Maybe because there's a lot more of these stadiums that have this synthetic turf.
No, that has nothing to do with it.
Because sometimes people aren't even being touched.
Some of these are non-contact injuries.
Yeah.
No, it had nothing to do with it.
Well, that's what the studies.
But see, you don't believe in studies in science anyway.
And that's the problem.
We keep worrying about science.
It's science.
That's why everybody getting hurt.
That's why.
That's the problem.
We listen to these people that never played the fucking game.
Oh, my bad.
My bad.
I'm sorry.
We're listening to these people that are experts on what we're supposed to consume and put in our bodies
that have never played any sport at the highest level and know what it takes to be able to play
a four-quarter game and a barbaric sport where we're running to each other 30 miles an hour.
But yeah, eat this green stuff.
It's healthy for you.
It's going to help you.
No.
For some reason, everybody's can do it.
to get hurt, softage injury, this, Achilles, quads, hamstrings,
everything blowing out.
Something has to give, and we blame it on injuries.
I mean, we blame it on turf.
No goddamn turf.
When y'all played, you all played on concrete.
Yeah.
Y'all played on concrete.
We're carpet laid over top of it.
Yeah.
With no problems.
The end of Wendell Carter's career.
He tore both Patel attendants.
In vet.
Come on, man.
Look, I just think the thing is that if you know, if you, if you know more, you should do more.
And I think there's a reason why.
So in other words, so let me ask your question.
Talk to me.
So why did it kick this kick off out?
If it doesn't hurt, guys going to get hurt anyway.
So why not continue to run down there and let guys run into each other?
Oh, the NFL covering the ass.
Okay, well, cover, wait, don't you want to cover your ass with these injuries?
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Listen to me real quick.
We're trying to prevent the collision.
from so far apart.
So we're going to shrink it down, right?
Because we lost the lawsuit to, what, what, three generations ago?
Oh, yeah, in 2000, early 2000.
Yeah, three generations or three errors, three errors ago.
We lost a billion dollar lawsuit.
Three, you know what I'm trying to say.
We don't want to have that, have that happen again.
So what are we going to do?
We're going to take precautions.
Anyone that gets hurt, we're going to continue to throw forward.
flag we're going to continue to find you so you don't come back 10 years later from now
trying to sue us saying well my head or this is messed up because of these circumstances that
we had back then that's what the NFL is doing I think the thing is uh is that the NFL
the product suffers when your best players aren't on the field there's a reason why that you
can't hit the quarterback below the knee right Trent Green suffered the exact same injury
on their very similar play
and they didn't change the rule
it wasn't until Tom Brady
Brady yes
and they call it the Brady rule
yeah
there's been a lot of got quarterbacks
that got hit in the knee
and got hurt
yeah
but it was
I just think to think you look
I think if you know more
you should do more
you don't you don't believe
in size you don't go to the doctor
so yeah I mean I go to the doctor
a doctor. Why? Because I have to. He didn't ever play no sport. How do you know,
wasn't what, what, how he know how to treat your body? Because I can't check
myself. No, but I'm saying, I got, I got to make sure I'm healthy. But why? You don't
listen to no nutritionist. I don't know. Hold on, hold on. Listen, listen to me. Listen to me.
I don't listen to nobody that does studies and tells me what I need to put in my body
to play the game of football at the highest level. Why would you listen to somebody
I'm not, I'm not listening to studies that tell you what you should put in your body to heal your body.
So why would you do that?
What, hold on, hold on.
You, I need better context.
I need better context.
Why would you listen to anybody to say you need to put this medicine in your body so you can feel better so you won't be sick?
So you won't have a sore throat.
Why would you listen to him?
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
My sore throat is because of the AC.
And I don't, I don't, I don't, I'm just asking you a simple question.
Not you.
Let me answer.
Let me answer.
Okay. I don't take medicine. For one, let's start there.
Okay. That's all I will say. So you say you're the way to say you go to the doctor to take medicine.
No, I didn't say that. I said a checkup. We got to go. Why are you going to get check up?
Because we are old. You don't, you're not going to listen to what he says anyway. So why do you care? No, because he has to let me know if everything is okay with me.
We got to get a check up. Oh, Joe. Why do you care? You're not going to listen to him.
Oh, we got to get a check up every man. And when one, why do you have to get a check up? Why do you have to get a?
to check up when you're not going to listen to what he says.
Because we're in our 50s.
We have to.
What are you talking about?
You don't have to.
Yeah, we do.
Did your mom get checked up?
Did your grandma get check up?
No, they didn't.
The old people didn't get no check up.
I'm asking you, if you're not going to listen to what the doctor says, why are you going to get checked up?
Why do you even have?
Why do you even have medical?
It makes you everything was okay with me.
Why?
So I can know.
So you just want to know.
You're not going to do anything about it.
So why do you want to know?
Because I'm supposed to go get a checkup every six months.
You don't do that?
Why do you need a checkup when you're not going to listen to what the doctor says
to help you feel better, make you feel better, or be healthier?
Why are you going?
Well, for one, this is the good thing, right?
So every time I go do my checkup, there's nothing wrong with me.
So really, there's nothing for the doctors told me I need to do because I always feel good.
Okay.
So I'm good.
But you're going for some reason.
Because I have to do my checkup every single
You don't have to.
There is no law that says you have to go get a checkup.
Where is the law?
What do you mean?
They said it in school.
Once you hit 40, you got to get to check up every six months.
They said a lot of things in school.
They said study and do your homework.
You ain't listened to that.
Not because I wanted to play football.
I didn't know, I wouldn't know scholar.
Yeah.
But then you found out, you know what?
I got to study and do my homework to play football.
I did.
I did. I did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's get.
Let's get a big of it.
Jackson Dart is the first quarterback says Patrick Mahomes to lead their team to an 80 plus yard drive on the first drive of their first career start.
Ocho, the moment didn't look too big for it.
No, absolutely not.
Look, it's the first game.
Let's look, you and I are not going to start.
Hey, we're not going to get a parade going.
Right.
But what we will do is that we saw flashes and we saw glimpses of him in preseason.
He looked good.
Yeah.
Like, Ocho, he looked good.
And I was like, Ocho, over under eight weeks of Russ.
right i said i'm going to take the under and i'm not so sure it's going to be
it's going to be much longer in the four or five weeks right also i was you and i was talking
i said oh if it's me i'm going to start him at home against the charges right i'm not going
to start him on the road in the saints in that building that noise on i'm going to start him in my
building because i know at least for the first game the crowd is going to be on his side and they
won't boo it yeah but he he looked he looked good now it hurts that he's not going to
to have his most talented player on the office side of football joining him.
But he looked good.
Very good. Very good.
What did you like about what you saw from him?
Listen, not only did they run the offense, right?
Even with Malik Nebri's going out, he still looked good.
Obviously, plays a call offensively, seeing him use his legs on some of those third downs
and get those first downs and being able to play off script outside of the scheme
and the players of the call is what I was most excited about.
I think about the difference between him and Russell Wilson.
Obviously, Russell being in there, being able to stand in the pocket,
and he doesn't have that ability to be a dual threat as he once was when he was in Seattle.
So having that addition of Jackson Dart, being able to come in, drop back, being in the shotgun,
being able to go through his reeds and not see anything there and be able to pull that thing down and take off.
And not only he take on, hey, boy, he can run, huh?
Yeah, he can run.
He got legs.
Yeah, absolutely.
I ain't know we're fast like that.
Mm-hmm.
I'm not saying Lamar Jackson and like that,
but young Bull got wheels on him.
Yeah, he can run.
He looked at real.
And I like Scatibu running the football.
Scatterboo remind me of Peyton Hillis.
He does.
He does.
He does.
Or All-Start.
Mike, All-Start.
Remember All-Star for example?
All-Star nice, but Payton Hillis and Scatibu got a little bit more wiggle to him, though.
Yeah.
They got a little more wiggle to him.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
Giants, I mean, oh, man, I thought big guy, I thought, uh, uh, deck, I thought, I thought sexy
Dexie was going to go. Oh, hey, he almost got to know, Dexie. You, you know he's going to go low.
Man, get that, hey, hit him with that high and pose and get that all down and get him off.
We got to get Dexter work on that stiff arm.
You got to work. Boy, if he got in the end zone, you know, that's a big man dream,
uh, an interception.
On a pick? A pick. Hey, boy, I think the stuff.
then would have erupted if he would have if he would have got past that and hurt it over that um
that tackle but that would have been nice boy they did a great job of getting after herbert
yes fibido burns uh abduel carter sexy dexsy those guys did a great job of putting pressure
on it um he never really felt comfortable
give them credit, give them credit.
They got after them, they got after Justin Herbert.
And he finally, he finally looked mortal because he had been playing out of his mind
the first three games.
He had played out of his mind.
Yeah, crazy.
But today, he looked like a mere mortal.
And my young bull over there on the other side who's been having some struggles,
Quentin Johnston.
Yeah, yeah.
Looking like that boy.
looking like how he's supposed to be.
Now that confidence is set in,
he's stringing games like this,
back the back, the back.
And for him,
it's only up from there.
I just want to give him his praise
because we've been down on him
because, you know,
because his recent...
He had some drops here.
He struggled early.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, hey, Quinn Johnson, boy,
I know you're going to see this boy.
Boy, boy, keep going, boy.
Keep going.
Keenan Allen look good.
Yeah, well, Kenan Allen,
Keenan Allen.
We already know what he can do.
We know he can do.
So we're just picking up.
where he left off. Hampton. Hampton had 12 for a buck 28.
Hey, boy, he would toting that thing. What?
Mm-hmm. And can. Yeah, he was nice. He was nice.
Yeah, but a scat pack, scat pack go, hey, hey, he got a, hey, he get a couple of
hundred yard game. He got on, he and Jackson Dark go on the city. Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Listen, if, if, if Dodge was, if Dodge was smart, they'd be doing a commercial, a scat pack commercial
with scatterboat. It only makes sense. It only makes sense. I need three percent if that
happened to, Scatterboe. A Dodge, Hollis, Scatback commercial. The charges have an old line
problem with your left tackle. Joe Alp. Left the game early with an ankle injury, putting
an already injured offensive line because he was filling in for, what's the guy? He just got the
big contract. Slater, Rashon Slater. He was filling in because he moved from right tackle to
left tackle to replace Slater. Slater's out. Herbert was under siege. He was pressured on almost
48% of his dropbacks. Well, it is tough. It's tough. Now, listen, he looked, he looked, he
looked normal because he got your officer line now. It's hard. It's hard. You're running for
your life from your old landing there. Lamar today. Mm-hmm. Justin Herbert. I mean,
Shh, man.
Jaguiles beat the 49ers, Ocho, 2620,
with Parker Washington's punt return touchdown for takeaway.
Former Niner, Eric Armstead,
script sack, Brock Purdy with less than three minutes to play,
with three minutes to play to seal the win for the Jags.
Things got heated at the end of the game,
after the game, Ocho, with Liam,
Cohen and Ninus D coordinator, Robert Sala,
had to be held back while yelling at each other.
Sala had accused Jags of stealing signs in a legal fashion.
He told him, keep my name out your mouth.
Yeah, they should have through the thys, boy.
Keep my name, hey, keep my name out your dentures now.
Yeah.
Now, hey, don't make me run up on you.
Hey, hey, hey, Mr. Liam walked up on him.
Like, listen, man, hey, what you doing?
giving all this unsolicited advice
keep my name out of your mind
hey he should have shoved him
with the finger in his head
he should have gave him one of your
I bet there you go bad
I'm saying
when it comes to coaches
there are certain things that you're supposed to keep in house
certain things you're not supposed to share
you know that's I mean how you just
volunteer volunteering
information that nobody knows about
except coaches you don't do that
So he had to go check him like Nike.
Hey, hey, they should have threw down right there at the 50.
Trevor Lawrence, 21 to 31, 171, one touchdown, no interceptions.
ATN, 19 carriers, a buck 24 and a tub, 32 rushes, 151.
Ryan Thomas Jr. had five for 49, strange, six for 45.
Travis Hunter had three for 42.
um fumble but uh they covered it yeah um brock purdy was 22 or 38 309 two touchdowns two
interceptions and was sack once christian mcalfre had 17 carries for 49 yards ryan
robertsons junior five for 21 brock party two for 13 so 24 rush attempts 83 yards christian mccapher
had six for 92 in a touchdown on the receiving end tanges had three for 58 and a touchdown
Pearsall had an outstanding one-handed catch had four for 42.
Kyle Eustick, three for 32.
Turnovers killed him.
Can't turn it over.
Every time.
It costs you the game.
It costs you the game, and it costs him the game tonight.
Yep.
Travis did not play at all on defense in the second half.
45 total snaps tied for a season low.
36 offensive snaps.
So that means he had nine.
defensive snaps, right?
They got to make up their mind, man.
Ocho, let me ask you a question.
They got to make up their mind,
Ocho, you want to be, let me ask you this.
If I gave you a choice, Ocho, you can be a lead at one thing
or you can be the average at two things.
What you choosing?
I'm going to be a leader at that one thing.
Because right now, he's average at both.
I don't know what they're doing.
Travis Hunter is the number two pick, right?
Right.
I think, to me, I know he wants to play both sides of the ball.
would love for him to be number two pick at one position.
Listen, I was all for him being on both sides of the ball.
I know you can do it.
You got the confidence to do it.
But I need you to see, I need to see you on one side of the ball and being effective
for your team, either offensively or defensively.
What one or the other, because as a number two pick, you should be on the field every single
down on offense or defense what one of the other because what they're doing is they're bringing
them along slow and picking and choosing when to play them it is not showing the value it's hard
to get a rhythm like that though bingo and it's not showing the value and why you pick them number
two not not the way they using him but uh what didn't he uh give i think he had he gave up four
completions though on his nine snaps
He did?
That's one of the games I wasn't able to see.
Yeah, they don't like, uh,
because I'd be trying to watch it.
Do they let you watch individual games anymore?
Individual games.
Or you got a block, you know.
I'll be trying to, I'll be trying to,
I'm going to get me a fire stick.
I got to get a set up like I got in Atlanta.
I was able to see all the games.
Yeah.
You know, I don't stay home.
So after the one o'clock games,
I go to a place called Up again in Hollandale.
Right.
And all the TVs and the goddamn JAG TV
just happened to be on the TAG game
happened to be on the TV all the way on the end.
So what?
But see, the thing.
is I can it's hard for me to focus so right like I need to get a set up I need to get a set
up like I got in Atlanta right so I got all the individual TVs oh Joe right so I could just
put like yes I put like six games on knowing that you know and hopefully the games that I have
on very exciting because those you know you always have your games you know you're going to
talk about the Cowboys yeah we'll talk about the Eagles you there are certain teams that you know
you're going to talk about now you try to have a couple of games
that, okay, it's interesting, and they do something
and we're able to talk about them.
Yeah.
Like, you know, the Jazz got Travis Hunter.
Jags ain't Travis Hunter, we're probably not talking about them.
Let's be real, because we keep hoping that we see a glimpse
of what we saw at CU and what we saw at Jackson State.
Right.
A pick and a touchdown.
They bring them along so slow and in hand feeding them more.
And actually, he regressed as far as not playing defense.
this game. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, because it's Alcho is a big, think about
the Ocho. I don't know what he's doing. You do, Ocho, you and I know this, man, you got to be
sound in the NFL. Them guys are really, really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are no slouches.
Everybody, look, there are a lot of guys that Travis Hunter went against as a DB and wins
against as a wide receiver. That's not the NFL. Every guy that he goes against.
on Sunday is in the NFL.
The real deal.
Everybody.
Everybody he's going against was an all state,
was an all conference,
was a something,
got some awards,
some level along the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And listen, for me,
what I don't like is I've been spoiled.
I've been spoiled watching him at Colorado.
I've been spoiled watching
and make players on both sides of the ball.
He's on the He was on the Heisman.
He was number two in the draft.
So now that I'm spoiled, I'm thinking, okay, he told teams he wants to make sure he's able to play both sides of the ball where he drafted.
The Jaguars agreed to it.
So what do you think I'm waiting to see?
I'm waiting to see the exact same output of the plays that I saw in Colorado, even though I understand it doesn't work like that.
Well, I think you and others got spoiled thought he was just going to like,
it was ready it was ready you know some assembly is required you know like you get toys on
show when you was a kid your mom your grandma your granddad somebody had to put the stuff
together some assembly will be required they i mean chat honestly did y'all thought they was going
to just throw this man out there and he was going to do exactly what he did at colorado
y'all thought he's going to do that NFL i know i know y'all have watched the game too long
to the tonight's thing that oh yeah he going to do exactly that right out the box really
chat, honestly. I mean, be real. Y'all, Gen Z, y'all just told me. Y'all say what's on your mind.
Tell me, y'all didn't think that. Would you call it Gen Z? Yeah, I mean, that what they say,
they say, we tell you, did y'all really think that the first game, he was going to look exactly
how he looked at Colorado? Did y'all think that? Really? I knew, I knew I'm going to be
in there like that. But now, now we're going, we in week four, I'm expecting more volume of
reps on both sides of the ball. I'm waiting to see. Okay, let me ask you a question, though.
You're expecting these volumes of reps. So you expect it. So, but do you want greatness or you
won't average? Because right now he's average at two positions. Hold on. The, the, the, the player he is
is is not average. So he's good. His play. Damn what he is. I'm talking about his play. So you tell me,
so I'll tell you what, I'm going to take, I'm going to take the name out the back. Right. And you don't know
anything else. Right. And I just say that number 12, what you tell me what you, when you see
him on offense, you see him on defense. Tell me what you're thinking. Oh, the small players
I've seen. Yes. He got something in him and they're using him, right? I'm just, I'm, I'm telling
you. That man was a, he was a nine snaps on defense. He gave up four catches. You think he got
something in any. Well, shit, everybody. No, I don't do that on Joe. No, don't do that. I'm just,
Hold on, right, hold on a timeout.
Everybody going to catch balls.
What you saying?
Whoa.
No, no, no, no, no.
What are you saying?
No, hold on.
Wait a minute.
I'm used, he's the number two pick in the draft.
Right, right, right.
I ask you, I said you want to be average
or you don't want to be elite.
Oh, you said elite.
Yeah.
Remember, I'm on your side, though.
Remember I said I want one side of the ball.
What I'm saying to what I'm saying to docho,
okay, is that people expected that he was going to get dropped
into the NFL and he was just going to pick right up where he left off you and I both they
get mad at us because we say that's not going to happen well how do you know because I played
the NFL now how do you know it's going to happen I played in the NFL right you didn't right
so I know a lot of guys because here's the thing Ocho is that what you think those guys thinking
going to dig in even harder bro i'm not going to let you beat me i'm not going to let you
deep me up guys really be on their bet oh so you know when you went against revis or you went
against the top or a keb or you went against the top guys you know you had to be on your best
behavior yeah absolutely that's how they approach him that's how they're approaching him
so now he just like it's it's in his mind i want to do something nobody's ever done
nobody's written and and in chuck bignaric was the last guy to be a full-time two-way player
that was in the 60s he was a center and a middle linebacker they call him concrete charlie chuck
bignette philadelphia eagles go look his story up oh cho i i just don't know i just don't know
i just don't know what people like what they expect yeah i mean give the guy some grace let him have
some time but oh he oh he terrible the coach bro it's going to take time and then it's like well
time saying well he didn't practice on tuesday time you know they ain't let no rookie come in and
not going to practice come on time yeah oh so what rookie you know i've never seen a rookie
that's come in and not practice at all so you so when they practice on wednesday he gets that
day off a rookie i've seen vets do that yeah
I ain't never seen a rookie do it.
I haven't.
Have you been around?
You played 11 years.
No, absolutely not.
And I've had some rookies.
Clinton Porter's one offensive rookie of the year.
Mike Crowe, one defensive rookie of the year.
Outstanding.
They ain't get no day off.
Right.
A rookie?
Yeah.
I say, I've just going, I've grown, I've grown frustrated.
I've grown frustrated because in my mind, number two pick, he's dynamic.
I know what he can do offensively.
I understand his skill set.
How are they going to use him to maximize his potential?
I just want more.
We in week four and I'm not getting what I thought I would get.
Even if it, even if it doesn't have to be both sides of the ball, even just one side of the ball.
You and I agreed that I thought he was a better DB.
I say play him at DB and put packages.
But it seems to Liam Cohen on why Travis Hunter only played receiver
in the second half, personal decision that had to do with a few things
we'll keep in house for now.
Yeah, something ain't going right.
Something ain't going right.
There's no reason there's no reason things will be going backwards
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