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Episode Date: October 15, 2025

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Yeah. They didn't buckle up. The Cowboys beat the Panthers. Excuse me. The Panthers beat the Cowboys by the score of 30 to 27. Another game in which the Cowboys defense were exposed. Brian Schottheimer stood up for his defensive coordinator, Matt Iber Flues. The Cowboys allowed 216 rushing yards a season high, led by former cowboy Rico

Dallow, who had 183 yards on 30 carries. It marked the fourth time the Cowboys have allowed at least 144 yards rushing this season. It's also the fourth time this season the Cowboys have allowed at least 30 points. It was also the fourth game they have recorded one or fewer sacks. Now, I remember, Ocho, because, you know, Michael, Michael couldn't stop the run and, you know, DAC is indispensable. And DAC is playing well. Yeah. Dak is playing well. Absolutely.

But DAC is under the same situation that your quarterback was under last year. Because his defense is so putrid, if he punts the ball, when he gets it back, if he had a lead, they're either going to be tied or they're going to be closer than they were when he punted the ball. Yeah. Because his defense can't stop anybody. That defense is atrocious. Now, they keep blaming. I don't know what it is. They fired Mike Nolan.

They said it was Mike Nolan. Now, some of those players were still there when Mike Nolan was there. They had a Zim. It was them. He wasn't no good. They got Mike Iberfluse. So they've had three or four different coordinators. And a lot of those same players that were there are still there.

Now, I want to know, oh, Joe, at some point in time, we got to start holding your players accountable because we quit to blame. boy, that coach, that coordinator, that is, that that. Go ahead. It's the coaches, it's a scheme, but it's never, it's never the players, which is why I'm tired of hearing that. I'm trying to hear, I'm tired of hearing that, especially out of the 5-1-3 all the time. But we'll get to that game in a minute. But I said this before the season started on. People laughed at me when I said, my surprise team, I had two. I had two. One of them was the Bears, and the other one was the Carolina Panthers.

I told him, I want you to watch out for the Panthers. I want to want you to watch out for Bryce Young, watch out for the defense and watch out for the receivers. And what are they doing? You saw what they did to the Panthers. I mean, excuse me, you saw what they did to Atlanta Falcons, not long ago. You saw what you did today. Young Bull, young bull.

I don't want to butcher's last name. Running back. how you say it the right way on Dadell Dadell Dadell but I think they say I think it's Daudil Yeah is I'm going

Daudil or Daudill I've heard it both ways I don't listen to the broadcast so chat y'all have to tell me how they said As on the broadcast how do they say it Do they say Dadell or they say Dottal? You know, people don't play by their last name now. Yeah.

Hey, but listen, boy, he was on a mission. Yeah. He was on a mission. It wasn't, it wasn't nothing cute about him today. Oh, no. You know, Rico, Ro Rico Suave, you know, Rico's supposed to be cute. Wasn't nothing cute about Rico today. He told you, this man, this man called his shot.

Yeah. This man said he was going to do. You know how, do you know how difficult that is to call your shot in the middle of the week before the game? and tell people to buckle up and then actually go out there and do exactly what you're going to do, which is the reason why you said you need to buckle up on the ground, catching in the air. Man, man, Dowdell was all over the place. He was. Dowdle.

Yeah, yeah. Dowdle. But I thought that, but I was like, hey, they say Daoudel. Hey. But, Ocho. Yeah. At some point. At some point, Jerry has to understand his defense is built.

They're undersized. When you have an undersized defense, what does that mean, Ocho? You're built to play with a lead. For a lead, yeah. Because you want to eliminate the run game because you're 14, 17 points up. They're not going to run it. Now you use those underside guys to stream up to stream up field. Okay, what happens when you got to sit your light ass in there and catch?

They ain't got nobody to hunker now. Now, all I heard, Jerry, I'm very disappointed in you. Because everybody was, you, you were yacking. You win a game, you yacking. You had a tie ball game and they couldn't get him out the podium. Hell, they thought it was a ringmaster's. Hey, hurry, hurry, hurry, step right up. Now, Carolina don't put foot in your butt.

Now, Jared didn't speak to the media. Why not? Oh, he didn't speak to. Oh, no. He didn't speak the day? Absolutely. Why do you want to talk? Yeah, exactly.

Front running. Now, let, oh, hold up. You remember a couple, you remember, what was it last week? And then, you remember that on you, you see what I'm talking about? Now look at it. Everything that went wrong, well, you know, Michael wasn't good against the run. Okay, Michael gone.

What's your problem now? Right. Mm-hmm. Well, we didn't go that far when we had Michael, okay? How far you're going to go without him now? Because you're two, three, and one. Hey, listen, if they're going to have a shot,

now I know we didn't get to it yet, but offensively, we get that in the minute. But boy, that, boy, that, well, he earning every bit of that's 60. He earning every bit of that 60 or whatever it is. Empty calories, Ocho. Empty calories. If you go, if you say, you know what,

if you say, man, you know what, I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to eat healthy. Bro, you go eat twinkies and ho-hoes, all the meals is empty calories. They don't do nothing for you. They satisfy your craving, but they add absolutely no nutritional value.

That's what those stats are. But you got to understand. Listen, I'm doing my job. I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. This is a team game, right? Yeah, you're supposed to win. Yeah, that too. But to give you a friend,

I need y'all to stop something over here. They're not. I need y'all to stop something over here. I will say to his credit, no, Ocho, he hasn't turned the ball lower. No, no, no, he's playing clean. He playing. I will concede, but it's hard because he knows

he has to be perfect. Yeah. Because my team not going to stop anybody. Right now, right, hey, right now we can't stop a parked car. We already, so you know that going into the ball game. I already know what I'm up

against. Me. That's secondary, look. I was like, you can't stop with what? A parked car? I don't know if Diggs. I don't know if Diggs is still hurt.

He's still, he's not the same. Diggs don't even look the same to me. I know Digg Diggs better than this. I don't know if that injury, if he's 100% recovered because I know he's, you know, they find him 500,000 because he wasn't around or whatever's going on. But he doesn't, look, he was always a clue or he was always a guesser.

Yeah. And look, now he got incredible hands. He gets his hands on the ball. He's coming down with it. And most of the times when he does guess, he gets in the right way because he know what's coming. No, not anymore, Ocho. He didn't look on the off the side of the ball.

He didn't look the same day? He ain't looked the same in a while. Yeah. He ain't looked the same in a while. And the defense, and because, look, they got those guys, like I said, teams just going to run the ball. And now when you run the ball, you're going to have to drop the safety down,

and now you don't really have no help over the top. Ain't none at all. I mean, if they ran the ball 38 times for 216. Think about you dead last in total yards. You're like 24th in rush yards allowed. You probably dead last to points. Where are they in points allowed? Because they gave up 40 to the Packers.

They gave up 30 today. They gave up, what, 24? They probably average giving up 24. They're close to the bottom. They 28 through 32. In points aloud. Listen, don't be, this,

nobody should be surprised. If you're in the chat tonight, I'm sure you're a faithful fan, and you've been watching for a very long time. I told you before the season started. I told you about them Panthers. Everybody laughed at me outside of Panthers fans. Everybody laughed at me,

oh, oh, too, man, they sorry, they did, they did, stay that. I told you, you know? And I kept, I'm going to remind you again. Hey, keep pounding, bitch. But see, here's the problem that I have, Ocho. You see, at some point in time now, you're going to have to, like, when you get the ball, you're going to have to keep putting points on the board.

You can't be content when you got to lead. They punt the ball, you got to go get points again. Because you know that was an anomaly that your defense stopped them. What's the likelihood your defense going to pitch your shut out in the second half? Not having. They gave up seven. they gave up 10 points in the fourth quarter. More times than not,

they scored three in the fourth quarter. So they scored 10, and they gave up 17. Bryce Young, 17 to 25, a buck 99, three touchdowns with one pick, sack one time for five yards, 38 carries, 216 yards. George Pickens playing his ass off. Hey, well, you see,

remember we talked about, remember I told you, you won't go have no issues out of my brother? Yep. And I told you that not, that conversation, George, I know you're going to see this boy.

I love you. But I love you. I told you. It's okay. It's okay. This is why your team is two, three, and one. The Cowboys, dead last in total D,

dead last and past D, dead last and third down percentage. Second to the worst points allowed, averaging 30.7 points. the game. Damn. Wait, offensively, I'm, I'm sure they're a little higher. They're way high.

Yeah. You ain't overcoming that. No, you can't. You can't because you... Think about what you got to think about, Ocho. In order for you to have, they're giving up 30.7. So in that order for you to be winning, that means you got to score 30.8. Yeah.

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Fourth and points. They're fourth and points. 29.7. So you give up one more, Ocho. See? Man, we were close. All I need to do is score one more point to you, and that's what they're average.

Guess what? They score 29.7, they give up 30.7. So guess what? If you score 29 and I score 30, who win? You know, that situation right there, to give people a better perspective, to give people a better context. It sounds like another team, when my quarterback is healthy, we go through that same issue.

Yeah, the big one. And we score on 30 a game when everybody is healthy. Shoot, the other team scoring 32. We scored 40. They score 50. You can't win. Well, you saw it last year. Y'all scored 38.

Y'all lose 41, 38. Y'all scored 35. They scored 30. Well, Jerry said, Michael was the problem. I don't know. Jared didn't say anything today. I want to know, see, front running. Now, see, all that, you all out the window in the owner's box.

You all out. Oh, we just having a good time. We have, you know, the Cowboy fans, we travel, the Cowboys fan. We just having a good old time. Yeah. I ain't see. Hey. This is what you saw up there.

This is what you saw today, Ocho. And in the... Like a school kid when it's raided outside and you ain't got no recess. Yeah. You got to sit there and look out the window. You know, something like this,

how do you fix that, though? This is just not a one-player issue defensively. This is not a... You got to get better players. You got to get better players. Look, it's hard to get them now because you got what you got. but you have a team that's built on playing with the lead.

Well, if you can't get the lead, Ocho, you can't just turn them loose because if you just run your ass up the field, they're going to just run where you will left. So you catch it. They're too small. They ain't got no bricks in the back pocket. You can't drop an anchor with them little light-ass guys they got up there. Man, they got guys back pocket shaking hands.

They're so small in their ass. Hey, matter of fact, you know what? I'm thinking about it, but if I was Jerry, now listen, I'm putting my owner's hat on. I'm putting my owner's hat. I need to get someone to anchor that front, someone that I could build around, and he could be that centerpiece for me.

Jerry don't care about winning, Ocho. We've been determined that to Ocho that Jerry don't care about winning, right? I'm just hypothetically talking. Hey, Chad, tell me what you think. Right now, Tennessee Titans, I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons to anchor my defense and bill from that bill from there out bill from the inside out to start over what you think i'm going to well george pickin's going to want a lot of money george pickin's going to want at

least dk money oh and he he's going to get dk money okay let me show you let me show you what's going to happen or what can happen okay cd lamb who's considered the top five quarter i'm quarterback who's considered the top five receiver when we talk about receiving when he goes yes let me show you what i can do i can pick up right where he's been sensational let me show you what i can do if I get the opportunities that I deserve that I should have got when I was in you know where I'm not going to bring them up but I can do the same thing

I can put up number two I can take you deep or I can take a slant to the house man stop playing this is what I do if he get his hands on the ball and he face your ass up it's a rap good luck getting that getting his ass on the ground that is a rap

it is a rap he reminds you of a smaller version of T.O. You remember how Tio ran angry? Yeah. Yeah. If Tio got the ball in his hands and he faced you up, it's a wrap. You're not, you right here in front of him, not getting him

on the ground. You better hope that, hey, I'm going, hey, come on, which way you go? I'm going to try to hold him out. Come on, man, damn. I can't hold him here forever. You breathe. Help, come. What the hell? Man. And that's how y'all, that's what they have to do with Pick.

Yeah. If he get the ball in his hands, And he turns around and square your ass up. It's a rap. And you know it's funny, he's faster than he looked because he's about to catch him from behind. He plays fast. He might not be fast. He might have, I don't even know what he ran. He might have ran 4-4-Ocho, but there are guys that might not run fast but play fast.

That's Jerry. Jerry didn't run fast, but he played fast. Emmett didn't run fast, but he played fast. He has what they call functional speed. He has football speed. got you get him out there to test but boy man that mofo i told listen i told you before the season started you did i'm glad because i'm like bro you got that money bro you got a you got an opportunity to make 200 million dollars to set your family up for generations and generations

i mean there might be a george picking the fourth they say my god great, great granddad, put me and put me and put this family in position. Bro, don't waste that day. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't mess up your money with some foolishness. The best thing to happen, he needed to get out of Pittsburgh. He needed to change the scenery. And sometimes that's what, that's what it takes, so Joe. Sometimes it takes a change of scenery.

Sometimes it takes somebody, him or her to get into a new relationship in order for them to be their very best. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm glad for him. But again, I know. I'm happy. But the Cowboys? I know.

But Jerry don't care about when the Ocho, we've decided this. You and I, we talked about this for years. Jerry cared more about money. Yeah, we understand that too. But I'm thinking from a defense perspective, with them being dead last in every category and every statistic and every metric and every standard when it comes to football, week six, November's coming up, deadline.

You never know if you were to make some. some type of hasty move, I would love to see them. It probably won't happen. I'm just thinking, I'm putting my GM hat on. I'm going to get Jeffrey Simmons, you know, quality, top three defense to tackle in the NFL right now, to this day. Boom, I'm putting you right there, and I'm a bill around you. I'm a bit around you. Yeah.

That's just me. What y'all think, Chad? They linebackers are very good, Ocho. that linebacker's not very good they ain't nothing they ain't got no plug i mean look sam william they got guys try to rush off the edge but i'm talking about like a like a like a mic backer well hold on understand let me tell you something you might not like what they have right now because with with that backer had that mic backer had in front of them it's lighten the ass now what happened if you go get that big 98 from goddamn over there in tennessee and you get

you get you get to be able to why i want to give him up to you what you're going to get me. Huh? Wasn't the first round pick that you got from the Packers? Maybe. Hey, listen, if we, Jerry, we can negotiate. But Jerry don't like that, Ocho.

He don't want to give up. He likes, Jerry likes to develop players. So Jerry, Jerry, Jerry has gotten burned in free agency. And so he's like, he's done with it. He's done with it. He's not going to, he's going to get guys that he go get the Jadavia and Clowny.

And Clowny had. But Clownie, he's not going to move the needle. Right. He's not the Clowny of old. No, no, no, no. And we had that discussion. We don't think he ever lived up to what we thought he was going to be. He was in the draft with Khalil Mack.

Khalil Mack turned out to be the better player. That's what, what he, what Calil Maq is, that's what we thought Janabian Clowny was going to be. Right. Based on what we saw in college, you probably got to go back. to an Indomacan Su to find a guy that raved hell. Now, the dominated like Jamian Clowny did his sophomore year.

His junior year, he was just trying not to get hurt. Right. So he didn't play like he did his sophomore year. But go back and look at Indomacin Su last year. You's like, okay, that's the best player in the country. Now, I forget who won the Heisman trophy that year? Sam, I think, was it Sam Bradford? Sam Bradford won.

Indomacin Su was the best player in the country. that year. That's what we thought Janabian Clown was going to be. But we'll see what Jerry's going to do right now. I mean, it would have been lovely to hear from him. But unfortunately, we did not hear from him, Ocho. What's up, everybody?

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Only glimmer of hope is Lamar Jackson could return from his hamstring injury after the week seven by. Baltimore committed three turnovers, including an interception and a fumble by Cooper Rush, who was benched in the fourth quarter for Tyler Huntley. The Ravens three points are the fewest home since 2002 when the buccaneers shut out the buck when they were shut out by the buccaneers 25 to nothing. I was going to say, I wasn't on that.

I was looking, I don't remember being in a bucket. But anyway, Baltimore has lost its past six games without Lamar and failed to score more than 17 points in each. DeHop, bad football gets you to one and five. So whatever you put out there, that's how football works. Can I tell you something? Go ahead. Before you even go, I expected the Rams to do this.

I expected the Ram to do this, especially the way the Ravens look and where they're ranked statistically on defense. Can't stop the run, can't stop the pass. So I understood a high volume passing team with staff was going to come out there and do exactly what they did. Now, on the other thing, on the other side of things, as much as I want to make fun of you and your Ravens, I'm not. you know why I'm not because them being one in five lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is yeah valuable that team is let's say Lamar Jackson doesn't play the rest of the season I say what y'all go what

maybe one and 16 you know there's a possibility that may happen there may be some games where you know Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley come in and Cooper Rush ain't yet and I told them at the beginning of the season right I mean y'all remember Cooper Rush I mean Cooper Rush had your food. Jerry said he was it. Jerry said it was a good chance he could be the future star of the Cowboys. But, eat, that neither here nor there.

It lets me know how valuable Lamar Jackson is. You mean to tell me that Lamar Jackson basically puts his team on his shoulders every week and goes out there and wins with this team? He's the reasons why we are able to go and compete week in and week out, even with the shortcomings when you get to the playoffs. He still gives us our best chance. So what I've seen from the Ravens so far, when Lamar went out, even when he was in, they still had a chance.

But with him being out, you don't stand a chance to do nothing. No, because the offense is Lamar centric. So it's going to be hard to win when you built your offense around the guy and that guy's not in there. Like you said, they weren't winning very many games with Lamar in there this year. Cooper Rush, 11 of 19, 72 yards. The man threw the ball 72, 19 times had 72 yards. So they were, that's sick here.

There was 21 of 34 collectively for 117 yards. And also, not just talking about the quarterback, too. The other players on offense, you have to raise your level of play because you don't have, you don't have eight back there. Because you don't have eight back there, you have to bring your level of play up to par to hide the weakness. Yes. Quarterback's out.

Zay, baby Zay, or you, that boy, you have to take over in situations like this. When you get to, and I see that trying to make them plays, trying to do extra, trying to add that spark to that offense. You know, it's just everybody, Bateman, everybody has

to, it has to be an elective effort. Okay, we don't have our quarterback. That means all of us, we got to play damn near perfect. You have to, especially it's the NFL. With three turnovers? Yeah, you're not going to recover, because with them turnovers, they're getting points all of them turnovers.

They're not, because they're not good enough to overcome that. Become it, yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. Oh, Joe, people saying I snitch. I didn't snitch. We had the meeting because Mike called the meeting. Right.

Mike knew he wasn't in the meeting. Right. I told him what I recommended. Because I didn't want him to like, man, hey, for me to be talking to him. And all the while, I recommended that Mike suspended his ass for a game. So I told him. Totally. Right, right, right. Yeah, it wasn't a snitch.

I snitched on myself, oh, I snitched on myself if you want to say something because normally whatever happened in that meeting, it stayed in the meeting. Right. Yeah. I just wanted them to know. That was my recommendation. People are holding you accountable to street guidelines, and this ain't the street life. Oh, Joe.

This is football. Oh, Joe. Yeah. If I go tell you what I told somebody, how is that snitching? I told you what I told them. Hmm. Yeah. Normally a snitch don't come back and tell somebody, oh, bad, you know, I told such and such on you.

Yeah. They don't do that. Yeah. It was a meeting. We had a meeting. What was going to be the punishment? Clearly, finding him wasn't getting the message through. Right.

Because he kept doing the same thing. He kept doing the same thing. This is what I recommended. Now, he didn't take my recommendation, but I told him, I said, this is what I recommended. Hey, hey, you would have told me that if I was on your team? You would have told me? I was told anybody. Hey, I would probably just dropped you on the spot.

I would have had to whoop you. Okay, well, hey, we got to fight every day. Guess what? You'd have missed that next game, I guarantee you. And you wouldn't even been suspended. I would have missing that game? Well, we'd have told that locker room up. I guarantee you we'd have told that locker room up.

Oh, we're going to tell that locker room up, for show. Damn, we're going to tell the locker room up, on Joe. Whatever. Derek Henry had one of his best days, on Joe, 24 carries a buck 22. And you only get three points. You ran the ball really well. I mean, think about it. You had more rush yards than past yards.

that's bad and like I said I think they got a buy week so so he'll get an extra week off Lamar get an extra week off so he could come back out of the buy right I mean hey do you want them to come back out of the buy being that you really don't have a chance of doing anything can they string off seven or eight games in a row they can yeah yeah they can they have that kind of Billy Ocho? I mean, that's Lamar. You believe in Lamar? Oh, y'all, I bleak. Okay, well, you believe that you can run off through... You see, you see how they look without him? Yes. Okay, you're right. That's crazy.

The thing is, is that you're probably going to have to win that division because it looks like, look at the AOC West, Kansas City, Denver, the Chargers. Could you possibly get... You got the AFC South right now. Indy looks good. And Jacksonville, even though Jacksonville. Hey, hey, DeVal, y'all, y'all want us to talk about the Jags today? Because y'all got mad at me in Ocho, y'all don't never say nothing about the Jags. Y'all got to Jags, okay, where y'all at?

I ain't seen not one person mention nothing about the Jags. We talked good about the Jags. But, Ocho, that was the thing. People want us to talk about the team when they are 2 and 12. What are we going to say? Whoa, Jags, Jags, okay, y'all, hey, Duvall, where y'all at? Y'all want to talk about the Jags? I don't know, Joe.

They're going to have to put some stuff together, man. Yeah. Derek Henry can get hot. He and Lamar can carry your team, Mocho. They did it last year. Absolutely. They did it last year. Absolutely.

I just, a lot of people that, that there's really nothing there's nothing bad you can obviously there you can pick and talk about Lamar Jackson and what he can't do and you know no playoff success but Lamar being absent it shows you how valuable how good of a player he is that the team is not even functional offensively without him there no and how important the quarterback position is as well and why he makes and commands the kind of money he's made make it. You take a Lamar Jackson out, you see what you get. You take a Joe Burr out of the equation, you see what he get. Josh Allen, obviously, he hasn't been hurt, but I'm sure they

wouldn't be able to function as well offensively. It just, it changed the dynamic of everything that makes your team who it is when these top, top tier quarterbacks are no longer available for your team. Had the defense been playing as well as they play today, they held them to 17 points. You know, normally, Ocho, they give up 40. They give up 30s. Yeah.

If they had been playing that well, maybe they've won a few more games. Get this game here, Ocho. I'm trying to, Joy, you, let's see, oh, here it is right here. I thought,

damn, it disappeared on me. You don't want me to see. I'm going to get it, though. I'm going to find it. Who that, who that? Ocho, I don't know if you've ever heard something like this, but it happened. During the Colts, Colts pre-game warm-up,

Anthony Richardson, fractured his orbital bone when he had an issue with a rubber leg band. So you know how you're doing the stretch band and stuff like that? And I guess it snapped. Ugh. If I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, If I'm not mistaken, Chad, you can correct me.

I think there was a situation where rest his soul, Congressman Harry Reid had a very similar situation. Using the exercise band, it snapped, popped him in the eye, and I think he lost a vision in the eye. Then, to make matters worse, Trudevius Ward was warming up on the field. He collided with Drew Ogletree, suffered a concussion. He missed the game.

Hey, have you seen something that's happened before? No. Yeah, I've never seen nothing like that happened before. Now, the band and the stretching and it pops, I understand that. Yes. I understand that.

Now, that can happen because it's happened to me before, but not to where, you know, it's not anywhere in the face, but, hey, it depends on what band you're using, you know, they got the thick bands, they have the thick bands. Yeah, yeah.

But they have the ones that they have for PT, not those, not those things, like weightlifting bands that we attach to the barbells and stuff like that to get extra tension these are the bands

that you know you be stretching to do it like that and you see you see the guy like loosening up with them huh? I thought he broke his orbital bone

yeah it's snap yeah I don't those little PT bands can't do that yeah well that's what did it okay damn

hmm Mm-hmm. That's unlucky, man. But back about how many times, you know, people have been using those in stretch. And after a while. Right, right, right. Yeah, it gives.

Yeah. I would be, Ocho, you know, you know how you get the medicine balls, Ocho, and you slam them down? Yeah. Boom. And some of them are bounced up to you, and some of them you have to bend down to pick them up.

Get them up, yeah, yeah. And we was in class one day, and this lady got one that he, He didn't realize it that it was going to bounce. Yeah. Hit it right in the note. He slammed it and stilled over it. Made that face it,

it did, dude up. I made that thing hit in the face by four times, about four or five times, Locho. He's like, oh! Oh, Joe.

Oh, Joe, I was in a quarrel. Oh, you laughing at the lady. You ain't going to help him? No, I was like this here. Because it's something like you see in the cartoons. Man, you know how the cartoons do it. That's how it was. But it was real life.

I was like, oh, my goodness. Oh, hell. No. Yeah. That's funny. Man, what did you call him? Anthony Richardson got buzzer look. Yeah, man.

Yeah. I mean, do you understand how unlucky that you have to be for something like that to happen? I mean, you hear stuff like that happened, Mocho. You know, you read like such and such happening because I remember, like I said, I think Congressman Harry Reid had something very similar to happen, but he was like elderly. He's probably like 80 years old, 80, 85 years old, maybe even older when that happened. But a young man, something happened like that, man, gosh. And I'm trying

Listen, I Obviously I wasn't there I wasn't there to see it I'm just confused On what exercise you might have been doing What stretch you might have been doing For that to be Even be possible

You know he might have been Elcho He might have been laying on his back That's right That's right And then you know Like you said Maybe it was one of those

One of those thicker bands And you know The funny thing about it Is when it pops You don't know it's gonna pop And you don't have The quick to the quick-titch fibers

to be able to react fast enough. Oh, no, no, no. That bang, snap, that pop. It's a rap. You only react after it's done to happen. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You're that.

Just the thought of that, just thinking about that. Yeah, hell, yeah. And, man, so hopefully Anthony Richardson can, you know. I hope he's okay. You know, I'm telling me, that's pain. I fractured my orbital. so I know the pain man it felt like a you know

well the doctor said it was like if I was in a bar fight and somebody kicked me in the eye so I had a complete I had a complete blowout of the orbital floor because your eye sits in a socket the floor right

my floor was completely gone so my eye dropped like three and a half four millimeters so they have to go in there so that's why it's really hard if I'm constantly like my nose because I got a plate I got a carbon fiber plate.

My eyes actually sitting on a carbon fiber plate. You're talking about like, hey, this is interesting. I like that. You know, most high-end, most high-end vehicles have carbon fiber, you know, on the outside and kits. It's light, yeah. So you got it in here? I do. Okay, okay, okay.

Okay. Hey, you're fast. Yeah. But the only thing is, man, and the thing was, Ocho, you know, had, I was congested. My sister said, man, you ought to use a netty pot. I said, what's a netty pot? It's like a netty pot where you pull,

put water, saline, water, salt water up one nostril and let it, you know. You tried it? Got infected. The bacteria got caught, got caught in that mesh. Looked like somebody, somebody punched me in the eye. Eye closed up. I ain't know what.

Well, I, oh, Cho, it got so infected. I ended up, I ended up, I ended up having, uh, Mercer. I was in, I was in, I was in the hospital for like four days. God damn. Then they sent me home with a pick line. I was getting a thousand, I was getting a thousand over a thousand milligrams. I was doing like two outbags of IV of just antibiotics, bank of myosin. Oh, yeah.

So a peak line. So I got the thing in the pole riding around and it going straight, going straight into, to try to get it up out of there. Yeah. cleared it up. It took me like two weeks to get over it. Right. Got another cold closed back up,

went to the doctor. He says, we're going to have to change this plate. He said, don't ever use the netty pot again. He said, I got to be careful if I blow my nose. My nose will start bleeding. Oh, I bet. Hey, this is interesting to me. You damn, you like

Robocop. Yeah, I am. If you go through the metal detector, does that Does it go off or no? No, it doesn't go off, but I got the artificial hips and they always, you know, they go off. Oh, you're like, you like a cyborg. Okay, I like that. That's dope.

All I know is that every time I go off and they said that little Richard call him. What? They showed a little red. Mr. Sharp, you, as you can see right there, I'm like, yeah, I know. So they got a. Hey, my dog. Yeah, man, I had a bad, but hey, well, I was messed up, man. I was messed up.

Daniel Jones finished 22 or 30, 212, 2 touchdown in an interception, and he gets credit for a fourth quarter game winning drive when he helped engineer a nine-play 66-yard drive that ended with a decisive touchdown with 432 remaining. Only two quarterbacks have led Cotech to five wins through six weeks since 2000. Yeah. Peyton Manning and Daniel Jones. I don't know.

When I talk about quarterbacks and I say situation matters, where you go, your environment, the weapons around you. And some people say, oh, coaching matters. Well, listen, coaching only matters when you have players like this. The situation that Baker may feel in, the situation that Sam Donald is in again for the second time. Obviously, the situation in Minnesota. Now you see what he's doing over in Seattle. And now Daniel Jones, going through the New York Giants, which was. going well and what he's doing now and goddamn indie it needs to be studied it needs it needs it needs to be

studied and it's so important not going high in the draft forget what number you go but going to the right situation where you go yeah it's all about where you go it's more important where than ha ha yeah and and daniel jones is showing that he he's he's played unbelievable Indiana Jones has been great He's parlayed himself into a He's going to get a big payday Ocho if he keeps this up He's going to get a ginormous payday

I have a question The funny thing about it is Is he's going to get a huge payday Are the Colts going to definitely going To be the team to keep him Because now he's auditioning Yeah Might need a quarterback as well

You know that right Who? He's auditioning for other teams That might be in need of a quarterback They're not letting him out the building We got it Okay I'm just making show

he'd definitely get in that bag. Mm-hmm. But a team that we did hear from today, Aaron Rogers, through two T-Ds. Hey, man. And the Steelers continued their home dominance over the Browns by the score of 23 to 9. Steelers, seemingly, Ocho,

on cruise control. They're four and one in the division. Cleveland, one in five. Baltimore, one in five. I think one in five. Cincinnati has lost what four straight so now they're two and four

yeah um Pittsburgh division to lose oh Joe yeah absolutely and honestly I don't see

I don't see him losing it and I can say yeah I can say this as as much as I love my bangles I don't see him losing it now I saw some something nice we'll talk about later when we get to the bangles

but goddamn Aaron Rogers got them boys playing on all cylinders, especially on offense, playing on all cylinders. As good as that defense is, over in Pittsburgh, with the names that they do have, they start jelling

and playing that good football the right way that we know the way we know they can play, they're going to be fine. As long as Aaron Rogers is playing like Aaron Rogers is playing that, they're always going to be in contention and they're going to be hard to beat.

Forget right now, I ain't talk about week six. I don't talk about when real football starts. at the Thanksgiving, getting into the postseason when it's cold and you got to go over there it ain't called Hinesfield no more, huh?

I think it is. It's still Hinesfield? When you got to take it. Hinesfield, well, you ain't going to be able to throw the ball 50 times the game. You went to have to put it on the ground. And you got Cam Hayward,

you got goddamn T.J. walking off that goddamn end. And then I forgot a young bull name. Was it Smith? 56. 56. High Smith? Yeah.

Oh, man. Stop playing, man. Hebrew? Yeah, they're nice now. Then the back end really ain't got no weakness. Oh, Joe, it's called Acroshore Stadium. No longer Heinz Field, Accrochure Stadium.

Who the hell is Accrochure? Don't start me the line. I tell you what, and I mean no disrespect to Ackishore. I like to say Hinesfield, because that's why I played that. I played the Hinesfield and I played the Three Rivers, the old Three River Stadium. So when it had the carpet, they had the carpet.

Oh, yeah, yeah, with Steve. Yeah, and the stadium would be bouncing. I mean, you can literally see it. It's bouncing up and down. It started rocking. The Browns' offense failed to eclipse 17 points for the 11th straight game. Dillon Gabriel, 29 or 52, 221 yards, six sacks six times. How do you – so you mean to tell me your guy, you're going to let your guy

in a second start. You're going to let him throw the ball 52 times Against that defense on the road But it's hard to run on the Steelers, don't? It's hard to run on the Steelers. So the only other viable option is is you've got to throw it And when you think about Dylan Gabriel

When you watch him in the games Where he's had success, anything outside, inside the numbers, inside the hatches, he's really good. It's nothing really long. You know, sometimes you get some short dig, some deep digs. If you know that, guess who else knows that

that he's good inside the numbers, a little short stuff. The other team. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's what, also think about it. Yeah.

You threw the ball 52 times and you only had 221 yards. Yeah. Hey. You missed 23 attempts. Bro. Cleveland.

If y'all trying to get the number one pick, just say that. Whoa, no, they not. I mean, you have to fight the jazz. No, no, no, no. No, no. They, they want, the number one pick for what to get what quarterback because there ain't nothing we don't

seen on Saturday that's willing to wait for no absolutely not i guess they want that uh that that pass rushing uh number six from miami and pair him with miles garrett i don't know maybe trade for some more players okay i like you i see what you're going i like i like what you think i like what you're putting up hey miles garrett said losing the same way as frustrating miles this what you signed up for you took the money i got no problem with you that. Oh, Cho, I have no problem with that. But Miles Garrett knew they were not going to win. They really haven't once since he'd been there. They've gotten worse. Right. So you can't say it gets old when you took the money. You said you wanted a chance to win. They dangled

$40 million per year, gave you $100 plus $1,5, $110 million fully guaranteed. You took the money. So now you can't complain because you knew what made you trust? them that they were going to be able to do something in one to two years they haven't been able to do in your tenure since you've been there. You're talking, but you know, you know, you know that wasn't it? You know, you know, you know why there was no guaranteed money left. I know what it was. I got it.

He ain't got no guaranteed money. He won't guarantee money. He's going to say, I won't out with really he won't guarantee money. I get that. Ocho, I get it. I do. And, chat, I don't want y'all to think. I don't understand.

but don't complain when you said you said you wanted a chance to win. You said you wanted to compete. You knew, with the exception of that one year, you guys haven't been able to compete. And you trust this organization to build pieces around you and do the right thing by getting a quarterback. You trusted them? No.

They have a bad history at that Pacific position. the one position you need to be able to compete to be able to contend the identity for the Cleveland Browns has always been their defense it has been the hard part has been

finding a quarterback that is good not great, just good enough to consistently not only keep you in games but win games when you're in certain situations especially games that are close

you just have you can go through a string of maybe four weeks five weeks of really good I'm talking about consistently throughout a season especially when it matters most you haven't been able to find that no and I'm and I'm supposed to trust you that you're going to find that but but what he's finding out Ocho is that money really can't buy happiness when you are competitor and you want to win and to go out there and beat yet. Guess what? That direct deposit is going to hit every Monday or if you get paid on the first and 15th, that deposit is going to hit. But them losses, they hurt. I guarantee you when you out there taking a L, I have number one time like, man, that check going to be in my, that check going to be, no, I'm going

to get my check. So I just got direct deposit in 2016. But anyway, I'd never thought that they, I'm going to go upstairs tomorrow and get that paycheck. I didn't think about that. We don't thing like that. No, we don't. When the L started add up, Ocho, I've been lost six games in a row, seven games in a row.

Man, please. You out there practicing, and then, guess what? Guess what's about to happen, Ocho? Tell them what's going to happen in Cleveland. That temperature about to drop. It's going to get cold. It's going to get cold. Get cold.

And guess what? You get cold. Now you out there practicing in the 20 degrees, and then come Sunday, you practice, you playing in 20 degrees, 15, 10. and you catch an ale after ale after ale after ale after ale don't Joe

Bill and Gabriel completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today he threw the ball 52 times but Kevin Stefansky kept him in the game for the entirety of the game but I just told you um they don't they don't you see how they protect Justin Fields when they're going to the end of the half because of the decision making

we don't know what he's going to do with the ball so how do you hide the quarterback weaknesses whatever weaknesses he may have that we can't see now you and I know he can't throw outside the numbers he can't be on the left half and throw ATR come back

on the right side oh hell no that's not the type of quarterback it will come back the other way for a touchdown so you have the call plays that are predicated to his strengths his strengths are throwing intermediate and short routes. So therefore, you call plays based on what he's

able to do extremely well. Now, that's no knock on him. That's no knock on him. So what we ask of you, that's all what we're asking of you, based on what you can do well for us offensively, that's what we're going to do. Because that's what you provide for us as a quarterback. Now, that limits your playbook.

It limits what you call. It limits some of the things you like to do as opposed to other quarterbacks to have the arm strength or the powers to be able to, to open up the playbook and do and do more that's what you have to do so i mean i i didn't i didn't want to say it like that i thought everyone else could see that and understood that especially when you when you watch and play some some of the some of the players at a call now some some frustrations

might might arise with with maybe jerry judy they jrida had 13 targets called five passes fanning junior had 10 targets called seven and jokul has six caught three damn oh cho i had a more uh dk four catches man he uh uh he had a go ball yeah and roger and the wind caught it brought it brought it back i mean he was like he was like five yards in front of the db yeah it was a rap hold on wait he caught he caught one deep ball on that he caught a deep ball that was that was later but he ended up but he had one that'd been that'd been a that was a show touchdown. And Rogers put it up and I guess the wind caught it because

Rodgers, he turned around and looked up like, damn. I ain't know it was like that. Okay. But I don't know what Cleveland's doing. I don't know if they're trying to get the number one pick. No. You're going to have to fight the Jets

for it? There's nothing out there. This is no knock and chat. Y'all know because y'all watch college football. There was nothing out there that is glaring where it's like where teams are clamoring for those who are in situations

like the Browns or let's say like the cowboy defensively where you know what we got to have him we got to have him so we're going to do what's necessary to make sure we're in position

to be able to get him it's nobody like that right now if nobody popping out on film it might be some offensive tackle or some defensive tackles that we don't know about but the skill position and their quarterbacks.

No. They need to go get that, the cowboys. They need to trade the two draft picks they got this year. And to go up there and get that that guy from Miami, Bang, Jr.

Right. Hey, Bay, nice. You need a hell-raiser like that. Those are the type of guys that change your future, that change your fortunes. That's what they need. Eat nice.

Yeah, yeah. But I don't, I don't, like, Dylan, Gabriel, Thornton, letting Dylan Gabriel throw the ball 52 times. Bro, he threw four passes that had 10 yards of air distance. He completed four passes over 10 yards in the air today. So everything is checked down.

He dinking and dunking or checking it down. Now, you know, there's no digging and dunk can work. It can work depending on the, you can be efficient digging and dunkin. But at some point, once the boys say, you know what, we're coming up, we can be able to put the ball over the head, though, at some point in time. You got to put a man, you got to put, you got to put, you got to put, you got to put, you got to put, oh, Cho, if I don't, bro, I'm, I'm sitting on everything. You used to play the Raiders and the Chiefs. You had to throw, in the first 10 plays, you had to throw a go ball.

Or them both folks are going to sit right there. On everything. On everything. When you played the Raiders, when you played, had a T-Mack and they had Alba Lewis, so we went over there, and they had Dale Carter in Kansas City. And they had a, what's, oh, I forget the guy's name. Lord, have mercy. If you did not move them, if you did not throw a go ball, it's like, look, we ain't trying to complete it.

But you got to put fear on them. Because, boy, they ain't moving. Keep them thinking. They're not moving. Yeah. Man, first of all, y'all, we know y'all not going to throw it deep. You know why we know y'all not going to throw it deep? Because we know y'all don't have a really offensive line that can hold up to throw it deep.

And second of all, if you do throw it deep, guess what, Ocho? You ain't right to run a game, so what am I stepping up to stop the run for? Yeah. So with that being said, now, we squatting on everything. Proved to me I'm wrong. I dare you. Juckin's, Juckins is hurt. He had 12 carries for 36 yards, he might have got hurt in the game.

I was, you know, I was back and forth. Man, it's hard for me to stay. for me to stay interested in that right there, Ocho. It's hard. You know, I watch the series, and I'm like, bro, what is this? Yeah, I thought they would have leaned on him a little bit more. So I thought, well, maybe he's hurt. Maybe something's wrong with him.

But if your quarterback isn't as good, or you're not able to do some of the things you want to do to make sure you're able to be competitive, you want to hide him by running the ball a little bit more. You want to put that load and that onus on that on your running back to be able to get things going or to make it easier. Forget balance.

You got to be a run. You got to be a run heavy team first. You got to be. I ain't trying to do no balance. You ain't got no balance with that right there. I mean, Jaila Ramsey had two sacks. Jaila Ram's, I'm going to try to get me 10 sacks at the corner.

Hebrick had two sacks. Highsmith had a half a sack. T.J. had a half a sack. So they had six sacks total. Six tacks total. But I don't know what Cleveland's trying to do. But whatever it is, they need to stop. You know what?

You know what? It's almost unfair. It's almost unfair to have to judge Gabriel against that damn defense. It's almost unfair I know it's a division opponent But hell It ain't that many people That look good against the goddamn Steelers

And the quarterbacks that do You know they're in conversations Of the upper echelon The quarterbacks when they come to Being able to dismantle that damn defense Oh Joe, the Chargers Yeah Beat the Dolphins

He'll now lost four games this season in which they trail by one score in the final two minutes. After the game, Tua was asked how players can refrain from feeling sorry for themselves. Ocho, take a listen to his response. Uh-oh. I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys. And then what we're expecting out of the guys, right? We're expecting this.

Are we getting that? Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to player-only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player-only meetings. like there's a lot that goes into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory? So, so it's a lot of,

it's a lot of things of that nature that we got to get cleaned up and it starts with the little things like that. Be clear, you're saying some players were late or missed. Late, yeah. Obviously, you can say some of these things. I like that.

Toa being the quarterback, being a leader, having that seat on the chest and addressing those things publicly, but you can't throw your players under the bus. You can't throw your players under the bus like that. You can't do that. You can't throw your players under the bus like that because even though you are the quarterback, they're not going to view that likely.

They're not going to, they're not for the like that. Is that too, Ocho? Huh? Is that, I know, hold on. Chad, I want to make sure I'm hearing you correct. This is not the Ocho that I say that he said he wants people to tell the now, is it? Well, hold on. You got mad at me when I was happy that Cam Boers say, hey, we ask. You know, I mean, you said they- I'm glad you. I was trying to get you to see

the big picture, but you was in the forest and you didn't see the trees. This is why. Yeah, see, but it's different. The context, the context in which they were playing, it's okay. He wasn't talking about nobody. He said, we collectively as a group, but that's that's almost like snitching like what you mean okay we that's in-house you know what I was late come and holl at your boy come holl at me let me know you know I was late whatever might but you don't go tell the media you don't you don't do come on now I don't know how Mike McDaniels make it through the end of the season he said this is a leadership he said do we make it mandatory or is it not mandatory he's putting the onus on the coach right but

obviously when it comes the players only meeting, the coaches don't have anything to do with that. That is something that is, hey, listen, we don't have a meeting. We need to get, make sure everybody's on the same page. We need to make sure everybody on the page. So let's meet at so-and-so time. Now, that's between coaches. I get it.

I mean, I'm sure my coach, that between players. Players, but here's the face. To see on your chest. What happened, Ocho, is that when guys were showing up late for meetings, that were mandatory, that the coach had said him, when guys were showing up late for practice, and the coach didn't nip it in the bud until they got too late. And so what was one or two turned a three to four,

turning to five or six. Now, the story, the report was that there were two main culprits and neither one of the ones or are, and one is playing extremely well in Pittsburgh. But they were the main culprits, but they didn't say they were the only culprits. So, hold on. Again, Brian says,

I want to know what part of this is he going to take accountability for two or three picks today two is third in the NFL with the most interceptions thrown by a quarterback if you haven't said this privately first then in the media I don't respect it and since we're on

the topic of respect I guarantee a lot of players don't respect Tua Tua points the finger and literally has four pointing back at him if you want to win put yours in see hey listen you know what and see he just said it

He just said it. You know, I understand. I've been in the locker room before. When it comes to the quarterback position, when things aren't going well, you take it on your cell. When things aren't going, when things aren't going,

it's my fault. I got to do better. I have to play better. When things are going well, you praise everybody else. Well, I was able to do this because my office line, because my receivers are playing well,

my running backs, they're running the ball really well. You can't do this because the reaction you're going to get and the players, well, damn, that's, oh, you always. Yeah, they said, hold on, two, a tag or turnover. That's how you feel? You got, he got to, you got to be careful.

You got to be careful. You're 14? I'm getting up. He only, you're, he only, you're four or five. I mean, you're 13, 14. And I'm getting my ass up and getting there. Oh, no, hell no. See, listen, you, you, you've been doing it, you've been doing it consecutive years.

So you're used to the program. Yes. Or year three, you know, you're not acclimated to the program just yet. Not just yet. I know you're still a professional, you know. But here's the thing, Ocho. What I understood is that I knew he was that good of a player. And one day he would sit in my chair.

Yeah, and I understand. And I didn't want to see. And guys look at you because I saw a lot of guys and I was like, man, I can't wait. I get, I start making plays enough. I can make a pro bowl, make a, uh, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh, uh, a, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh, uh, a, uh, a, All-Pro. Guys looking at that. And they're going to say, well, man, I can't wait, so I can be late to practice.

Well, I can skip this. Or I can skip that. I see you're going with it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to do it. We're going to do it right. We're going to have fun. I want to have fun, too.

Hey, Sharp, man, we're gambling. Sharp there. We're going to have a good job. time. But when it come time to work, we're going to work. We're going to work. Ocho, we'd be in training camp. Kuh, we come in there. Before we go to practice,

Kube, uh, offensive coordinator, he said, uh, the boss need you to get him going today. Okay, okay. So now, how you did it? How you did it? How old? Oh, oh, I'm going to strike up the band on the day. Boom, boom. I start beating on. Ocho, I'm beating on, I'm beating on the locker. Boom, boom, do, do.

Boom, boom, boom. Oh, I'm going to strike up the band on y'all. Oh, yeah. I'm going crazy. She's going crazy today. Yeah. Who's going to get this work? Practice.

Hey. Crazy. Hey, cool week. We're going to get that work in. We're going to have a good time, but we got to work. I'm not wasting my time. Right, right. I ain't here to lose.

I'm not putting all this time in. I didn't spend all this money in the offseason. I don't eat the way I'd eat to come in here and be 6 and 10 to be 5 at 11. I'm coming to win. I'm trying to get to a playoff. I'm trying to win the division. Get to the playoffs.

I'm trying to get to a Super Bowl. That's all I'm trying to do. All that other is don't even matter to me. We can be friends or we can, look, we can be friends or we can be friendly. There's two different things. I like that. I like that.

And everybody on the 53-man roster, they do not get alone. No. We're all there for one common goal. Yes. I like that. I like that. I like that.

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