Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 8 Part 2: Unc CLOWNS Ocho for Bengals LOSING to Jets + C.J. Stroud OFFICIALLY BACK

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson bring you the Best of NFL Week 8! Unc and Ocho break down the New York Jets earning their first win of the season against Ocho’s Cincinnat...i Bengals, Saquon Barkley running ALL OVER the Giants and much more! 0:00 - Bengals vs Jets18:19 - 49ers vs Texans29:42 - Titans vs Colts38:34 - Dolphins vs Falcons53:53 - Giants vs Eagles (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:43 I've got you covered. Oh, let me get to the other game, but you. There's another game I want to talk to you about. Who that? Who at? Who at? The Jets. Beat the Bengals. 39, 38, down.
Starting point is 00:02:58 They were down 38, oh, they were down 3824. Five days after being publicly criticized by the owner Justin Fields played his best game of the year, leading a team to a dramatic comeback for a first-time win for new head coach Aaron Glenn. Field show decisive in the pocket, no sacks. 21 or 32, 244, and he did it without his starting wide receivers. Let that sink in, chat. his top receivers weren't there and they beat the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I've been trying to tell Ocho all along. It does not matter what you do because the one time that you don't score, your defense is ineffective. They can't stop somebody from school. And look what happened. Yeah, you're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:03:44 You're right. Listen, I'm with you when you're right. I was pissed off, huh? Why do you want to be pissed off and pissed on? Listen, I ain't even want to show my face today. And people call them a phone. I ain't even answered my phone. Why you didn't do that?
Starting point is 00:03:57 I mean, listen, I told them my internet wasn't working. So, you know, when you're internet working, calls can't come through. Yeah, they can. Yeah, they can. Not on my phone, okay? So I'm sure everybody probably watching the show, they're probably questioning, oh, you could be on the show, but you can't answer the phone. Yeah, I said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Listen, I lost me a little, I lost me a little money on that game, too, now. Oh, you thought the Bing was going to win? Yeah, I, um, babe, we was up, what, 17? Wait, wait, we were so, what, 17? 38 to 24. Man, listen, I thought we were going to win the game. I'm just honestly, I had got to a point where I say, you know what? It ain't even no need for me to watch this no more.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I stopped watching the game, I'm, I stopped watching the game because that's how much confidence I had in us. Offensively, I was like, you know what? Ain't no way in hell they're going to be able to come back because once we got up two scores, I felt comfortable. I felt real comfortable. Now, I know we might not be able to stop anybody, but when a team is playing ahead,
Starting point is 00:04:58 the defense should be able to pin their ears back and just go get the quarterback. Y'all ain't got nobody that can pick – first of all, y'all pit bulls. Y'all ain't got no ears. They clip. So how are you going to pin your ears back? They clipped.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Listen, when a team scores 38, when a team scores 38 offensive points, you're supposed to win that game. But one of the problems that's always been our Achilles Hill as a team is our defense. Hell, if we score 40, the other teams go 42. Hell, if we score 50, the other team score 58.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And for some reason, I don't know what it is we need to do. But before the trade deadline, before the trade deadline, we need to get one centipiece. We need to get one centerpiece. Now, I know we have Trey Hendrickson. I know we have Tray Hendrickson. But hell, he would not hurt today. Yeah. He would not hurt today.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We need something. I don't know what it is. I'm not a GM. I'm not a scout. But I do know the game of football. We need something. what that is hell i don't know that centerpiece i'm gonna get y'all a nice floral arrangement because that's the centerpiece that y'all gonna get a floral arrangement y'all done it's over
Starting point is 00:06:03 for you it's over and guess what when december rolls around you're gonna be out of it joe burrow next year 2026 is your year let me ask you something you do you do realize in the division we still second right you do right we still second in the division ain't nothing over now this is just a small mishap. This is just a small hurdle. This is just a small obstacle that we're going to be able to overcome. See, the bears are going to pay for the bullshit that happened tonight. You hear me? I'm going to tell you ahead of time. The bears. Bears are going to beat y'all. The bears are going to pay for what happened. But who, what? Bears are going to beat y'all. Watch Kayla Williams. Caleb Williams going to have a day. Let me, let me tell you something. The bears are going to pay
Starting point is 00:06:47 for the atrocity that we showed the day defensively. that man did this without his starting receivers he didn't have garret wilson them guys i know but listen it's still the NFL so so next man up those are still quality receivers because they're in the NFL they might they might not be garret wilson they might not be Gary Wilson they might not be and Jason Taylor son mossed he maulsed your guy on four dial out of his head that was a good catch that was a good that's a good catch but again like I said listen every so often the squirrel good enough, huh? Every so often, this
Starting point is 00:07:25 is good for the Jets. I like it. You finally got a win. Now you guys are one in seven. You know, whoop do you do? Who did they get a win against? You're not fit to get, if you, if you if you ain't won no games, your first win not coming against us. That's all I'm saying. That's how you feel.
Starting point is 00:07:42 That's how I feel. You're not fit to get that hell of that over my head. Hey. And we won one game all year. Who y'all beat? Yeah, I mean, it's all It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. You should feel ashamed of yourself.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I am. That's why I want to show my face. But I came anyway. I came anyway. And whatever, whatever, you know, is to come with that, you know, I'm a wet an egg on my face because I felt we was going to win. Am I upset? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But right now, I'm trying to control my emotions. I'm trying not to curse. I'm trying not to cry. It's too early to cry. There's no reason for it because it's like, it's, it's. Let me tell you. Let me tell you your problem. Joe Flacko looking for one guy.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Let this sink in for a second. Let me tell you something. Listen to me. Listen to me. Jamar Chase had 19 targets. T. Higgins had two. Norfolk had three. Your running back had three targets, caught three balls.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Tamer Hudson had two. Samadje Piron had one. And Andre, I always say, Hayas Seba. Yeah, I just say Yoshi. I just say Yoshi. he had three targets. Oh, so you can't have that discrepancy.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You can't have one guy, have 19 targets, and the second best receiver that you're paying $30 billion to get two targets? Yeah, absolutely. And I think, obviously, Joe being his third week there and understanding what Chase was able to do last week and the previous week before that, I think that's why the comfortability and saying, you know what, when I know I got to get the ball at my hands,
Starting point is 00:09:18 there's one person I feel that I can count on who is the best receiver in the league, league right now, that's Jamar Chase. So those balls, when it gets in my hand and I'm trying to get out fast, I'm going to Uno. But I think Joe, Joe Flacken needs to understand that goddamn T. Higgins is a reliable target as well. Yes. What you saw today on that deep ball, he is a reliable target as well and can move the chains the same way that goddamn Chase can. So in other words, you see what he did on the deep ball and then you give him one more target for the entirety of the game. So in the next three and a half quarters, you get that man one
Starting point is 00:09:51 target. Yeah. Nobody had more than, like, hold on. Let me, it's not, my mathematics. Hey, matter of fact, matter of fact, hey, hey, how you, I got to figure how to do this, man. I'm trying to figure out how one guy have more targets than the rest of the receivers combined. Combined? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I mean, you're asking, how we took, you do realize we talk about Jamar Chase, right? We talk about Una. We talked about the Triple Crown winner from last year. Yes. So let's understand why he. can have those kind of targets, such a high volume because he is the best in the league. And when you need someone to go to as a new quarterback
Starting point is 00:10:28 who's only been there for, hell, he's been there for 48 hours. He's been there for 48 hours. So I want this offense to be able to move and work. It ain't going to move like this. With that kind of disparity, it won't work. Yeah. Hey, it worked last week.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Guess what? You said something very interesting. He won the triple crowd. Now tell the people after his final game, what did he do? Was he geared up to play in the playoffs? Now, he said it himself. He said, all the catches and yards and touched out, that's good. But I want to win a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:11:00 But listen. This is not how you're going to do it. But he's doing his part. He's doing his part. He had nothing. There's a reason he, because of his greatness, which is why 19 targets are coming his way. The quarterback, I understand.
Starting point is 00:11:12 The veteran quarterback who's playing, who've been playing 20-7- You're going to lose. Okay, I got you. Give him 20 targets. You're going to lose. Anytime one guy, how many times do you see how many times
Starting point is 00:11:23 you've been around how many times have you seen one guy getting more targets than the rest of the receivers combined most of that time it happens once a year
Starting point is 00:11:33 every so often every so often every so often back to back weeks now that's different hold on so this man got 42 targets 42 targets in two games
Starting point is 00:11:49 Damn, that's dope. 42. That's crazy. Tiggins making $30 million. He got two targets, one catch, 44 yards, touchdown. No offense, three targets, three catches. Chase, three targets, three catches. Taylor Hudson, two targets.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Somajet P. Ryan, one target. Hey, so Chase had 19 catches. He had 12 catches. 12, 19 targets. he had 12 for 91 damn so he got 28 catches in the last two weeks
Starting point is 00:12:27 hey hey and you know it ain't got nothing to do it getting having 19 targets you know what the problem is it ain't it ain't it ain't it ain't flackle throwing chase the ball the problem is defense the problem is defense we put up 38
Starting point is 00:12:43 goddamn points 19 targets caught 12 of them and we stole 38 points and we lost the game. It dares to win because of the offense. And you see what happened when they started doubling chase? And he tried to force feed him. So you mean to tell, so I guess T. Higgins can't beat one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Why are you paying $30 million? The hell, yes, the hell he can. So why you throw him two targets then? If he's what you said he is, why would you give him two targets? I'm just basing on what you say. You say he, that boy. He is that boy, get more than one, get more than two targets. Yeah, but he's opposed to.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But obviously the quarterback, the quarterback, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what he was doing. His decision making, obviously, Flacken was going to have games like this. Going to have games like this. And this is that one game. Okay. Now we got a great understanding on how this offense needs to work. You need to be able to have balance.
Starting point is 00:13:34 You need to be able to have balance. If they're going to double chase, you've got to understand that five can do that work. He can do that work as well. And if Joe was in and Joe saw it. understood the way the game is going, having a feel for the game, having a feel for that offense, because I am the starting quarterback, and I know my players, okay, boom, they double and Chase. Why you, first of all?
Starting point is 00:13:59 I'm a fee, I'm a fee T. Why are you throwing the ball, Ocho, and you average it eight yards of carry? Somaget P. Ryan, nine for 94. Chase Brown, 12 for 73. You running the ball like that, why are you throwing the ball? Wait a minute. I don't keep asking me, I'm not the officer coordinator. I'm not calling the plays.
Starting point is 00:14:18 I don't understand. If anything, I'm glad we running the ball because he's trying to put the score out of reach. Trying to put the score out of reach because you understand that the defense is somewhat a liability. Because guess what happens when you turn, when you are incompletions, you put your defense back on the field.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Your guys running the ball. So Majee P. Ryan averaging 11 yards of carry. Carrier. Chase Brown averaging six yards of carry. And you throw. it? Yeah, it's tough, man. It's tough. Now, Zach Taylor's in a bad position. He's in a bad position because he has to make those aggressive play calls purposely because he understands, damn it, I'm hoping we don't go through and out and have to put our defense back up there,
Starting point is 00:15:04 but I need to be aggressive and take chances because I understand our defense isn't as good as we like him to be, and we ain't going to be able to stop nobody. So I need to put this game out of reach and it score as many touchdowns as possible. But they're, they, you know, they It wasn't stopping you on the ground, Ocho. Yeah, you're right. You're right about that. Listen, I can see it. I can see it.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I know I'm wearing shade, but I ain't Stevie Wonder. I can see it. Y'all, y'all had three rush touchdowns, Ocho. Yeah? Three. Listen, I'm with you. Listen, I'm with you. When you're right.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I'm what you're right. Listen, since in that, Bank of fans upset. I mean, they have a 500, y'all gave a 500 yards. 500 yards. You know, that's the, that's the second time in a 25 years,
Starting point is 00:15:47 fan that the goddamn just to have 500 yards of offense, that's just the second time, and it just happened to be against us. The last time was 25 years ago that they had 500 years of offense, 500 yards, excuse me. And everything
Starting point is 00:16:05 got to be against us, man. Y'all gave up 254 yards rushing. 254. Yeah, that ain't good. seven of 15 on third down conversion two or three on third on fourth down conversion ooh ocha you ought to be ashamed to yourself listen I'm ashamed huh I'm telling you I got egg on my face right now I'm not
Starting point is 00:16:32 but I'm not on the field there's not much I can do there's not much I can do you know I have to live vicariously through those who are playing the game today and hope that the play callers make the right play calls and in my fellow just executed We executed until it got to the fourth quarter where I think maybe about nine minutes to go. Nine minutes to go on the fourth. And I'm like, what the hell is going? Boy, it's like, boy, it's like somebody ate a limit or something.
Starting point is 00:17:00 And it's like you go fishing and you start the rear left fish in and they get closer and closer. And as the jet started to get closer, you know what happened to the coaches on the other side. They got limous in them up. They got, got, yeah, hey. Let's take a listen to all the motion of Justin Fields after the game. Yesterday, I'm praying, I'm praying like crazy, just, just for a win.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And, you know, this, this, I'm going to get pretty boner right here, but this, this, this this week, I kind of, you know, I found myself in my closet crying, um, on the ground, laying down. Not because of, not because of the hardships, not because of the troubles. I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that and I was put in place to handle this situation. But in that moment when I was talking to my best friend, you know, how hard it was and just, you know, not wavering faith-wise. Yesterday, I was just, I was just praying over and over and over again, like, you know, like, just one win. So he got vulnerable. Yeah, I understand it.
Starting point is 00:18:17 You know, I totally understand it. He talks about his faith, talks about going in a closet, you know. He heard what his owner said. If he didn't hear, his family, friends, and loved ones heard it and related to him if he didn't hear it for himself, which I'm sure he did. Or if he didn't hear it, I'm sure they brought it to him.
Starting point is 00:18:38 The reporters brought it to him. But, you know. Wait, you're leaving me out in the wind, that what I want to say? When he said if we can just complete one pass, he's like, I believe in Aaron Glenn. Right, right. Okay, I got you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah, that was, it would definitely help if we can complete a pass. That was loud until you. Yes. And, and boy, you know what Tyraud Taylor has some of the worst look? Because he was supposed to start in front of Justin Herbert. He gets a shot
Starting point is 00:19:10 in his ribs. It punctures his lungs. He doesn't start, Justin Herbert does, and they don't look back. Yeah. He's supposed to start this week. He hurt his knee last week. He couldn't play today. Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:19:29 But, yeah, it can be tough. It can be tough. I mean, because, you know, he's in Chicago and things didn't go his way. And he goes to Pittsburgh and think that's going to be his opportunity. He plays well. But when Russ gets over that calf injury, Russ gets back in there and says, okay, now I'm at the Jets. They want me.
Starting point is 00:19:47 I want to be here. And then things, I mean, O in one, O and two, O in three, O and four. And he's not playing well. Let's not sugar-coded. He's not playing well. This is supposed to be a defensive team,
Starting point is 00:20:01 and they've been crap. Yeah. They've been bad. Yeah. They got some high-dollar guys over there. Quentin Williams, hasn't looked like Quentin Williams in a long time. I don't care what you guys say.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Salis Garner does not look the same to me. Does it? They're not this is not that suffocating defense. Remember Ocho when they had Zach Wilson, if we can just get somebody, if we can just get somebody give us 14 points, we'd be fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 They're not the same. I think, I forget the other Quinny's brother name, middle lineback. I think he's hurt right now. But this defense hasn't looked good in the last two years. It hasn't. I mean, there's no way around it. Jets fans, y'all know that. NFL fans, you know that. That is not the same defense that was suffocating. That when Zach Wilson in there and they were winning, you know, Ocho, he'd score one touchdown and he kicked two field goals and that would be enough for them to win. They're not that defense anymore. Right.
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Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah, this was the best that I've seen. Jay Stroud looked? Yeah, he looked good. Listen, he did it without Nico Collins. and everybody. Everybody was a part of. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:46 He looked really good. He looked really good. It's, um, Matt Jones, your turnover, bro. You just can't turn it over, bro. You can't. You under man. The last thing that you can do is turn the ball over, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:26:02 Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm trying to find it. Hold, I'm finally just digging up the score. Hey, that guy, how do you say his name? Who? Al-Shazir, Al-Shir. Well, that boy don't play, boy.
Starting point is 00:26:18 He played, Al-Shazir is playing in the wrong era of football. He, uh, he was with the 49ers. Huh? He came over with DeBico. He used to be at the 49ers. Boy, he's playing in the wrong era. Well, he's supposed to have been playing, you know, doing that early 2000. As he, Al-Shir.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, oh. hey, he played a week football the way it's supposed to be played. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I like him. Xavier Hutchison. Remember, Xavier came on. He got another five-catcher 69 yards of a tub.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. But then, you know, they ran the ball 36 times, 157 yards. CJ, 30 or 39, 318, two touchdowns. He did have the one in deception. No sacks. They look good. And they got out the, they got out of the, They got after the Texans, I mean, excuse me, the 49ers.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Mack Jones, 19 or 32, 193, two touchdowns, one interception. They had 10 rushes for 48 yards. They ain't enough. They have C-Mack and Chick. Yep. Hold, they only had 42 damn plays. They had 44 total plays. The Texas had 75 total plays.
Starting point is 00:27:39 They doubled them up in yards, uh, 475 to 223. Getting them off that field. Double them up in time of possession, 41, 22, to 1838. Yeah, holding that ball and getting, getting them up off that field. Yeah. Three and a nine on third down. Houston was nine of 16, one-on-one on fourth down. Now to do it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Anthony Nelson and the Bengals, the Buccaneers defense, and shine and the 23-20 victory over the struggling Saints. I don't know what the same is going to do. That was expected. Spencer Rattler got bent. Got bent. Shook, ain't much better.
Starting point is 00:28:21 No. Not. Listen, I thought Spencer Rattler was the answer. I was the answer. What's the question? Yep. I mean, you tell me he to ask.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I didn't know what you asked. what the question is. He hasn't been playing that bad. He hasn't been playing that bad. He shows some flashes, you know, here and there thus far in the season. But today it was just like the bottom fell out. The bottom fell out to the point where they had no choice but to sit him down. I'm sure he'll be the starter, you know, coming back next week.
Starting point is 00:28:59 But like it's too inconsistent with the talent they have over there. The pieces, you know, that Alvin, Kamara and the Rashid Shaheed and the Chris Olavay, the Titan, I can't remember the Titan's name off the top of my head. But he's also, you know, a good, reliable, viable target. And there's no
Starting point is 00:29:20 reason... Juan Johnson? Yeah. Yeah, that's Young Bull. There's no reason you should be struggling like that. Not that bad. I mean, but they was 32, a 51 for 227. They had... They got sack five times.
Starting point is 00:29:36 They threw two interceptions. can you imagine throwing the ball 51 times the game Jesus Christ You have four turnovers, you're going to lose, Ocho Yeah, yeah I mean, they don't have the offense to be able to overcome that Yeah, the offense to overcome one goddamn turnover, let alone four Exactly
Starting point is 00:30:01 It's just Teams just spinning their wheels without a quarterback. Yeah I mean, and they're hard to find. It's not like they just grow on trees and you're like, okay, I'm going to go pluck me one. But they were convinced on Rattler, and then they took shook.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. Damn. Until they get a quarterback, it ain't nothing they can do. Yeah, you know what? And that's for every team. Yep. That's for the Browns as well,
Starting point is 00:30:32 until they find the answer. The bills route the Panthers, 40 to 9, James Cook, 216 yards and two touchdowns, the most rushing yards since one O.J. Simpson, Josh Allen accounts for three touchdown. I think it was the 46th game that he's rushed and passed for a touchdown, which is the most in NFL history.
Starting point is 00:30:53 He's going to put that record so far out there. He might have 100 such games. Mm-hmm. 100 such games. Look at this. Andy Dalton, two turn old, look at it, 245 yards, Four rush touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I mean, this is just Andy Don't we're just giving the ball away. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had 3 and 13 past. I mean, yeah, he was behind. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Look, I understand that Chuba Hubbard went to the Pro Bowl last year. Right. Dottle is your best player, best running back. Give him the wall. What is they average? He's average,
Starting point is 00:31:29 no, no, they try to, they're trying to split the care than don't want to tick somebody off. Rico Doudal is the best running back right now. giving the ball. Giving the damn ball. They tried to make it equal to the day, huh?
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think Hubbard had more attempts, but the average, like, two yards, three yards of carry. Come on, man. Man, they'll be playing people feeling. Damn feelings.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I tried to win a game. That man had been hot, red hot. And y'all in here and talking about, well, he came back, you know, no, hell not. Hold on, let me put his stats array. Rick O'Donnell had eight carries for 54 yards, almost seven yards of carry. Hubbard had 12 carries for 34 yards, less than three yards of carry.
Starting point is 00:32:23 No, you look at that total yards, Andy Dalton Pat, 16 to 24, 175 yards, interception, and he was sacked seven times. His QBR was a good, was a good, was a good, high school students GPA, 4.2. Sheesh. My goodness. Yeah. Josh Allen was 12 of 19, 163, a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Tribusky even got in there, 2 or 4, 22 yards. But James Cook had a day of days. 19 carries 216 yards, 11.4 carry. Two touchdowns had a long of 64. Chakua caught one, went to the house on him. Hey, that was nice, boy. That little stick, Routy caught and got a bat. Boy, that was nice.
Starting point is 00:33:13 That was real nice. Good little move. Oh, yeah, he's shifting now. Mm-hmm. You get your thing. The bill's lost to the Falcon, and the Falcons just laid an egg to the Dolphins. That's what makes sports so fun, because we don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:29 That's what makes the NFL so fun, because you never know. Some of the teams that have been dominant. and it just doesn't happen. After Sunday's 30 to 16 went over the Ravens, coach John Harbar called the Ravens violation of the NFL injury report policy regarding Lamar Jackson at honest mistake.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I can tell you this. Nobody's trying to hide anything. There is no advantage to be gained with that. The reason why they do it, Ocho, is why because they don't want somebody to give that information. You get fired. I didn't know
Starting point is 00:34:05 I didn't know it was a rule Ocho me there's like who we played we played somebody and I was like yeah we knew John wasn't going to play
Starting point is 00:34:12 all week because he didn't practice Lord I didn't know Ocho right oh and if I said oh y'all knew he were going to practice
Starting point is 00:34:18 he went on the injury report 50 grand who wow learn my wow learn my lesson say no more
Starting point is 00:34:30 you got hey my bad Mike you ain't you ain't know you ain't know better No. I mean, because he didn't practice. So we knew he wasn't going to play. Right. You should have told me that, Mike.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I wasn't supposed to say that. He said, Derek Henry moved past Walter Payton for sole possession of fifth place on the all-time NFL Russian touchdown list. Henry now has 112 touchdowns in his 143 game, or the all-time Russian touchdown list. Henry trails only Emmett Smith 164 LaDane and Thomason 145 Marcus Allen 123
Starting point is 00:35:12 Adrian Peterson 120 Godly Boy with Emmett Smith How many Emmett Smith got 164 Jesus nice Man Emmett was average
Starting point is 00:35:24 It was getting 10, 12, 15 touchdowns a year It was a running team Boy that's crazy How do you think you become the all-time lead rushing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I understand. I understand.
Starting point is 00:35:38 And obviously, and also running behind that amazing offensive line. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think nobody's going to break that record. I don't think nobody going to rush for 18,000 yards, don't you? Not in today's game. Because you got two backs and everybody throws the football. Mm-hmm. I just don't see that happening.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Right. You would have to be special. You would have to be special. But who's going to get you that? amount of touches. I mean, listen, if you're special like that, they will implement that type of offense for you to touch the ball in a manner where you can actually reach,
Starting point is 00:36:11 you can reach that, you know, 18,000. Plus, you got to hope you stay healthy. Thank you. That's the hard part. You got to hope you stay healthy. You're able to play a long time. Mm-hmm. Wait, how do we have been playing?
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Starting point is 00:40:53 He's on pace for 1,800 rushing yards. and it leads the NFL's top offense and it seems to be making a pretty strong bid for MVP. We haven't had a run it. We haven't had a non-quarterback to win the MVP since 2012 with Adrian Peterson did it
Starting point is 00:41:12 in that historic season, which he rushed for 2,097 yards a year after suffering an ACL injury. Ocho? Yeah. You like what you're seeing from the Colts? I mean, yes, I like it now. not only what I'm saying from the Colts, but the Colts, you know, their resurgence, their success
Starting point is 00:41:31 right now is all on the heels of that young bull, Daniel, Danny Dimes, Jones. He's playing unbelievable football. He's playing unbelievable football, man, and doing his decision making, the throwing of the ball, anticipating processing information, making sure not put the, the ball in harm's way not turn the ball over then it jonathan taylor running the way he's running makes everything else he's running the hell out of the ball he makes everything else easy so it's just been a great a great great relationship you know for daniel jones going in andy and listen we we we didn't know what was going to happen no i didn't know he's going to look like this you know
Starting point is 00:42:19 before the super started i can i can be honest i can see him being honest i listen i owe dan jones an apology because I said it wasn't going to work. I felt, you know, that Anthony Richardson should be starting going into his third year. You know, understanding that they gave him one, you know, one year deal for $14 million, I thought Anthony Richardson chances of starting there really wouldn't be a quarterback competition. I do. Now, based on what I'm seeing up to this point through week eight, hell, it shouldn't have been. It shouldn't have been.
Starting point is 00:42:51 But all I had in my taste was what I had to view. of Daniel Jones when he was in New York. The only thing that I knew based on what the contract that they had given Daniel Jones that he was going to be the starter. And I told you, I said, they're paying that man $14 million.
Starting point is 00:43:07 He ain't going to be no backup. Yeah, no. The mere fact that they brought him in and told you everything that you needed to know. Yes, sir. Who brings a guy in and pays him 14 million and a guy you took of a top five draft pick
Starting point is 00:43:19 if you want that guy to start? Mm-hmm. You want somebody to come in and that you know he can beat out. He wasn't going to beat Daniel Jones out. Damn. Daniel Jones looked good. He looks really good.
Starting point is 00:43:36 Now, I don't know if he can win comeback player of the year because he didn't come back from an injury. That's what I hated that award because they were giving it the guy as well where he'd come back player to year. Where did he come back from? He wasn't injured. He was just sorry.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Right. Hell. Or maybe not sorry. Just not in the right situation. situations matter situations matter and I want people to come back from an injury Miami, okay, okay
Starting point is 00:44:00 Adrian Peterson should have won comeback player the year Tom Brady should have won comeback player the year Tom Brady had an ACL injury he came back Adrian Peterson suffered an ACL injury play like that
Starting point is 00:44:12 when you come back just because you're on the bench just because you had an offseason that ain't no comeback player of the year you needed to overcome something right well wouldn't that be what you overcame? You overcame being sorry. You overcame not playing.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's your fault. You need overcome, we need somebody to overcome an injury. Right. No, I was like, come on, man. And I think they changed the rules. But I think Jonathan Taylor can. Now, it's just so hard because these quarterbacks be putting
Starting point is 00:44:41 up these unbelievable numbers. They have 40 touchdowns and three, four interceptions, Ocho. And, you know, it's just but I think Jonathan Taylor playing. I mean, he puts up 18, 1900 yards. He has 30 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:45:00 It's going to be hard to overlook that. Yeah. You can't. I mean, look at that, Ocho, 12 for a book 53. And he had another three touchdown performance. So he's over 800 yards rushing. Yeah. How many touchdowns does he have, Ash?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Like 12. 12, I think 12. He had, 800 yards have changed. He had 12 touchdowns. Still, how many games we got to go? Nine? Ten. I mean, a nine game, nine, 17, nine.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Man, listen, God willing, if he stays healthy, they're going to have to come see him. Yeah. There are, what quarterback is actually playing out of their mind outside of Daniel Jones right now? Well, Mahomes has been, my home does look like Mahomes. As always.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Now that everybody's back healthy, Yeah. Who else will play it well? Obviously, you mentioned Daniel Jones is playing well. Yeah. Dack was playing well, but I don't know if they could win enough games. That's the problem. What are they, three, four, and one?
Starting point is 00:46:06 Yeah. They got the Eagles coming up here soon. He got 143 carries, 850 yards, and 12 touchdowns. Wait, he got 143 carriers. He got 15 TDs. Who? Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, he got 12 rushing and three receiving.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah, okay. Damn. So he's on pace, he's on pace to break LT's record. As a matter of fact, in that game today, that's safety. I don't know who that safety was. He purposely took that bad angle because you didn't want no action. They think they slick. safety think he's slick he gonna take an angle coming down like coming down hill
Starting point is 00:46:55 knowing he's been in the corner that's a that that's terrible effort yeah listen he has two receiving touchdowns i think he had one last week didn't he have one last week against uh uh uh the charges he had one this week so he has 14 total touchdown but he's on pay he's right there LT had 31 total touchdowns uh he's uh he's uh eight games games in so that's 28 so another 8 8 16 that'll give him 28 so with another game to play that can give him you know 30 31 it's going to be hard to overlook somebody getting a running back putting up those numbers again and look at it so not a whole lot of carries yeah he getting a batty that man the few the few carries that he does get he does the most with the few oh man he got speed too
Starting point is 00:47:45 he can run yeah that's that look that's what that not that's not that's not that's not that those Wisconsin running backs, they scare me a little bit. Right. Because they look good in college. And then when they get to the league, and I'm like, ah. Well, listen, Michael Bennett was okay.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Remember Michael Bennett? Yeah. But Ron Dane, Monty Ball. Yeah. Hey, Ron Dane was huge, boy. He never, he never looked. He never was in NFL, what he was in college.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Right. They call him the Great Dane in college. They call him the great mundane in the NFL because he was very average. He's very whole hummed. Hey. So the Wisconsin running back scare me. But he's been better than advertised.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Right. Better. I mean, he's Jonathan Taylor. And he got speed to bar. He can roll out. You can go. He can roll out. You can go.
Starting point is 00:48:47 But it's going to be interesting. Like I said, you know, It's not over yet, you know, Josh Allen, doing Josh Allen things today against Carolina. Man, Andy Dalton was terrible today, Ocho. Did you see him? But, hey, that's the one game I didn't see, Young. Yeah, that's the one, though. Actually, the one game I didn't see, and was he that bad?
Starting point is 00:49:09 He was terrible. But the Panthers have been playing really good football. Until they put his ass in there. I mean, what was Rice to be? back next week. I hope so. The Dolphins beat the Falcons by the score of 3410. Tua had his best better mornings after he reportedly awakened with his left eye swollen shut. He started anyway against the Falcons and dominated throwing for a season high
Starting point is 00:49:38 four touchdown, Tua after the game. Probably one of the worst experience I've had in terms of waking up and what happens on a game day. My eyes swollen shut. And then thanks to the medical staff, they ended up. helping with antibiotics and whatnot. So, yeah, I'm just glad I was able to go out there and play. Ocho, can you imagine? You wake it up. You're a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Yeah. And hell, I mean, hell, I thought he had both eyes shut. The last two weeks, he threw down there, and it's 10 an interception. So I couldn't tell. But you wake up on a game day, Ocho, and you know things are going bad. You know things are going bad. And you know you've played bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And to wake up and one of your eyes is swollen to show, like, damn, what kind of luck about having? Who put voodoo on me? Somebody got a voodoo dog. Yeah, listen, it's some type of bad luck. But what I do like is it like his composure. I like him not worrying about what the outside noise is talking about. I'm not worried about him, not worried about what the inside the locker room is talking about. I'm going to come out there and do what I need to do. As much as I like to get in front of the mic, in front of the media, obviously I'm obligated to answer questions. And some of the things he said, he's rub people the wrong way. It's rubbed me the wrong way, and I'm sure it's rub those inside that locker room the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:50:50 But one of the ways to win that locker room back, you know, is by doing what you did today, having performance, playing against the Falcons, 4 TDs, clean game, no interceptions, you know, celebrating with the teammates, that will make people forget some of the things that you've said in the media. That, when your teammates over. They might not see you or view you the same way they once did, but winning a performance like that, being that you can't. carry that C on your chest, that's the kind of Dolphin football we're looking for.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Well, I'm glad he played well. Yeah. Because people would have probably thought he probably thought he punched his damn himself in eye had he not played well. Well, hell, listen, whatever happened to him, whatever you did the night before, whatever to it, whatever you did, Saturday night, do it again. And just make sure your eyes swell up next Sunday, too. You probably, uh, I think they play Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Don't they play the Ravens? Wait, they got a short week? I think they play the Ravens on Thursday night. Where at? In Miami, I think. Hey, I'm, I'm going to the game. Yep, I'm going to the game. I'm going to put my, I'm wearing my jersey too.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I'm going on. You bad luck, Ocho. Every game you go to, they lose. You went to Kentucky. They lost. You went to Cincinnati. They lost. When? We won last week. What do you talk about?
Starting point is 00:52:20 You didn't go to that game last week. You went to the University of Kentucky. You lost. You went to Cincinnati earlier this year. You lost. No, we won. Hold on. No, you didn't. So, hold on. Hold on. Let me, hold on. Let's stop. It ain't got nothing to do with me. You think. I'm just saying, I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You think Kentucky was going to beat Texas? Yep.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Jack, was Kentucky going to beat Texas? We'll never know. You showed up. Nah, I don't know. Don't try to make me no bad look. I'm good luck. Slept Rock. Hey, everything I touch turn the goal.
Starting point is 00:52:56 You remember Slep Rock? Every time he comes around, something bad happened. You remember that cartoon Slep Rock? That's you. That ain't me. Everything I touch turn the goal. Everything that is a part of me or attached to me turns to go. You flirt.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But no, no. You know, hey, Ojo, we, you know, we beat him up when he played bad, so we got to get him credit. He played good today. Hey, you see who, you see what I got on, man? What you, what are you talking about? Why you ain't got no, why you ain't got no bingo's jersey on? Huh? Why don't you have a bingles jersey on?
Starting point is 00:53:37 They lost a day. Mm. My bengals lost a day. My bang was also today. They're going to leave again next week, too. Hey, we're going to regroup. We're going to regroup. Now, I'm going to call Joe.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I don't got a flack old number, but I'm going to call Jamar Chase. I'm going to tell. Y'all can't beat the jazz? Who can y'all beat? Hey, hey, uh? Hey, it's one in the morning. And you think players still up this time of night? On the East Coast?
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah. I mean, they all played today. They probably still up, huh? Ain't nobody. First of all. It all depends if it all depends if they played at home. I mean, mostly if you play on the East Coast City, Giants, yeah, the Giants, that's a short ride.
Starting point is 00:54:24 That's an hour, hour, you know, 75-minute train ride. The Dolphins, they were in, the Dolphins played in Atlanta. That's a short ride. Yeah, they, yeah, they sleep. The Bengals, nah, eh, let's call tomorrow. Yamarra don't want to talk. Nah, he, he. Two, it was 20, 26, 205, four touchdowns, no interceptions.
Starting point is 00:54:45 and he didn't turn the ball over. They had 37 rushes, 141 yards. Jalen Wattle, 5 for 99, one touch. A. Chan had a touch. Ollie Gordon II had a touch. Malik Washington had a touch. Hey. Man, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Uh-huh. Hey, there was a clip. There was a really dope. Rahim, bro. You got to get it together, man. Rahim. Yeah, bro, he got to get it together, Joe. I'm just, I just, I'm always leery.
Starting point is 00:55:23 Uh-huh. Because Pennings was injured in college. But that was before he even got to UW, though. He was injured in college. Yeah. I, and wise cousins are still on the roster. Y'all should have traded him just to get, I understand that it had been the dead money,
Starting point is 00:55:43 but let somebody else pay that. let somebody hold on uh wasn't nobody willing to pay that you know how much that salary is what nobody did that oh cho you don't need him in it came and got him Ocho it's over
Starting point is 00:55:55 it's over I think the issue was how much of the salary that was the other team going to pay sometimes you just got to do like the Broncos we'll eat it what we just need you go
Starting point is 00:56:06 no that's too much if I'm not mistaken I don't know I don't have the numbers right here in front of me but if they want I think it's like 38 this year and it's another 12 next year. Yeah, but you don't want to let someone like Kirk Cousins go
Starting point is 00:56:19 because what happens is the situation just like this. And it's just like this. He looked terrible. Listen, you rather go with Kirk Cousins as opposed to someone else. Someone with veteran experience that, you know, can maybe keep the boat afloat, keep the ship afloat or give you actually a chance to actually win as opposed to some of the other backup quarterbacks in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Absolutely not. Now, he didn't look good today, but hopefully Pinnock come back next week. If Pinnock doesn't come back next week, who do we think gives us our best chance to win? Not some damn random backup. Hell, I rather Kirk Cousin, too, who's making, what? What do you think he made? Probably about $38, $40 million. This year?
Starting point is 00:57:05 Mm-hmm. God damn. Mm-hmm. Oh, Joe, did you, if you watched that game today, It was that bad? He looked more watched than the last load of laundry I did. Is it the fact that he didn't have Drake London out there?
Starting point is 00:57:26 I don't know what it. Ocho, it was fourth and seven and he threw a one-yard route. He looked like, he looked like one of the, you know, like as you start to get older, you want to get hit less and less. So you get the ball out of your hand quicker and quicker. You start getting down sooner and sooner. It doesn't matter what position you play.
Starting point is 00:57:48 When all of a sudden you get older, you don't, those licks hurt more. Right. He looked bad today, man. Now, the Falcons didn't look good at all. Nobody really looked good. I mean, they couldn't get the running game going. They couldn't get the passing game going.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Nothing worked. Bejohn fumble, he fumbled earlier from out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He'd go on that fumble, they went down to score, and from that point on, the game was out of control. Yeah. The game was out of control from that point on.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But he ain't got to get this thing. He got to get this thing turn around, man. Yeah. You got to get it turning around, Ocho. Ain't no way, ain't no if, say, and a bus, there's nowhere around it. They've got to play better than this. I'm watching them.
Starting point is 00:58:36 I'm like, did y'all practice this week? Or coach just said, I see y'all on Sunday. I just need to know, Ocho. because that was pissed poor. That was awful. But you know what? The game plan was terrible. The adjustments was terrible.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Well, if you want to call that a game plan, if you want to say, if you want to call for adjustment, I don't know what was going on out there, but they look bad. This is the bad as the faculty that looked in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Hey, that's the beautiful thing about football. That's the beautiful thing about football. You put in the work on Wednesday, the meetings, the practices, the film stuff, When you put it in Wednesday, you put it in Thursday, Friday, you have, you know, fast Fridays where you go over, you know, Wednesday, open field, goal line, short yardage, you know, from the 20, Friday, two minute warning, all that. Then you have walked through on Saturday. You go to sleep. Then you have meetings again, you know, to come out Sunday, and then for all that work you put in, two things going to happen. You either going to win or you're going to lose.
Starting point is 00:59:45 But it looked like we practiced, though, Joe. Look like we had meetings. How about that? I don't think that's asking too much to make it seem like we did do those things. You said Wednesday, we come in, we meet, we practice, we meet again, we come in Thursday, we meet, we meet, we meet again, we come in Friday, we meet, we practice, we go home, we have meeting Saturdays, we have walked through, then you have first 15 for a Saturday night, then you get into your playbook
Starting point is 01:00:12 on Sunday morning before you head out can we look like we did some of those things this week? Yeah. See, now you understand now you understand how I felt sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Now you understand how I felt sometimes a lot of the times because I didn't have very many, many seasons where I was able to feel like you felt most of your career.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I didn't have me to those. I just didn't. So I was able to, you know, you put in that work in all them hours and hours and hell i i had to do something else to keep me occupied to keep me having fun which is where the character came from you know all right we know y'all won you okay you want me get you one you know the one that one you know that one that mean y'all you getting excited about one win just one no we got six wins huh we got six wins no you got one
Starting point is 01:01:08 win today it was just one win we got six how many do you have uh we have five you don't got five wins i think you might have three yeah we're three we're three and five three and three and three and three and four no we're week eight right this week eight yes yeah we have we three and we three and we three and five you should have one day we should have won a day man i don't know what you should have done We should have won a day, boy. We're supposed to be four and four, sitting at 500, man, going into the Bears, you know, and then going into the buy at five and four, and then giving got the, no. Yeah, on the 11th, we got the, we got to steal us next.
Starting point is 01:01:53 So we. That's an L. You said that last. They're going to get that rematch. You're going to get that rebinds on y'all. And please. They don't want, they don't want no part of us. They don't want no part of us.
Starting point is 01:02:03 They do. Listen, the chances are, honestly, let me tell you, let me tell you where I'm excited. And chances are we need, we, we're going to beat the Bears. We're going to beat the Bears. If we can, if. Not in Chicago, y'all not. Stay with me real quick. We're going to beat the Bears.
Starting point is 01:02:19 We're going to beat the Bears. And the momentum of this win is going to carry us into playing the Steelers. I'm not sure. I think we play the Steelers November 9th. So I'm confused if we have a bi-week first. But if we don't, the momentum from beating the Bears. Well, yeah, if y'all don't play, if y'all don't play the Bears, so that's your next game, the Bears?
Starting point is 01:02:38 yeah well y'all got a buy week next week yeah okay then we got after the buy then we got the stealers so we're gonna we gonna be what five and five yeah we'll be six and five and then we'll be at the top of division after we win that game y'all not gonna be there hey you do understand we're gonna win the division right with joe with joe flack i'm not gonna be there you heard me the ravens did the best thing by starting huntley uh uh uh i don't know what it is about baltimore but he see if he should stay there don't go nowhere else right don't go anywhere else just stay in Baltimore because
Starting point is 01:03:14 that seems to be the only place that he can play well at is in Baltimore yeah we have to understand the offense is predicated to his skill set he's not in Lamarison that's why stay his ass in Baltimore yeah but yeah but the office remember remember what he looked like in Miami last year you know Snoop gonna get him
Starting point is 01:03:30 Snoop gonna get him yeah and I said he was going to get him based on what I saw do in Baltimore but again two completely different offenses so obviously it just wasn't a good fit. Yeah, he's going to get them okay. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Just stay in Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Don't even leave. Say, hey, no, no. I play, stay here for the minimum, but I'm not going anywhere. They played, they, look, we're going to talk about them in a minute. The Colts beat the Titans 3814. Bears played the Bengals this week.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Uh, go ahead. Okay, the Bears play the Bengals. That's so it's not November night. Your buy is November night. You guys play the Bears this week. Your buy is the following week. Right. Yeah, that's what I said, huh?
Starting point is 01:04:16 I said we got the Bears and then I said we had the buy week. And then coming out of that. You said November 9th you had the Bears. No, I didn't say a day because I know we had the Bears next week because I'm going to the game. Okay. Are you going to Chicago? No, we play at home. We got one more home game.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Oh, yeah, y'all need to go ahead. You need to go ahead. Don't go to that. But go ahead and go. Yeah, go. Have a good time. Have a good time. Eagles beat the Giants. Sequo clips to 100 yards, rushing for the first time all year. His first carry of the game, he got out the gate for 65 yards.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I don't know what it is about the Giants. He's like, look, y'all didn't want me, so don't even worry about it. You see that on your screen, 23 first down, 179 pass yards. Jalen Hurts, four touchdown pass. They had over 200 rush yards, and they did this. Obviously, A.J. Brown didn't play today, nursing a hamstring injury, but Dallas got it caught two touchdown on National Tight-end Day. Devonte Smith had a nice day, but Sequin got back to Sequan.
Starting point is 01:05:23 He tweaked that groin. Now, we're going to see moving forward. That was the groin or hamstring? They said it was his growing. I thought it was his hamstring, too, Ocho. Yeah. But they said it was his growing. Ooh, that ain't nothing to play with.
Starting point is 01:05:36 Well, no. That is nothing to play with. I think growing might be worse than the hamstring. Yeah, because you're not doing anything without it. It's right here. Let's see what. Jackson Dart was 14 to 9, 14 to 24, 193, one touchdown. He was sack five times.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Ocho, yeah. The fish has got to do something. This push push, y'all let him. keep going getting progress, but now he fumbled the ball, progress was stopped. You don't stop it before? Yeah, that was a fumble. Brian Burns took the ball out of his hands.
Starting point is 01:06:17 That was not, that was not on Slayton. That was not offensive P.I. They're hand-fighting. And what he did, he runs into him, and so when you bump him, it catapults me forward. But you know, you know what they saw, though. When Slaten extends his arm, then they thought that... Well, you missed the part that he
Starting point is 01:06:32 was holding it. You're the missed the part where he was holding Slatting. Yeah, yeah. But You know, anytime you extend, you got to, this, you got to, you got to use that, what you call it? Elbow. Yeah, that elbow. Yeah. Anytime you extend like that, they call it every time, no matter what. I didn't, yeah, that's a, that's a tough call.
Starting point is 01:06:51 It's 50-50. But obviously, knowing a referee, once he sees the extension of the arm, the flag is coming out. It's coming out every time. Devonty Smith had six for 84. Jeanne Johnson had a over, a mouse can. catch. Dallas Garter had three catches for 28 yards and two touchdown. Sequin had a touchdown. Look, they ran the football.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Dan LeHarton's only through the ball 20 times. He was 15 to 20, 179, four touchdowns. Yeah. They did sack him four times, but it didn't turn the ball over. But also, they had a second and 31. The Eagles had a second in 31. They hand the ball off the tank Biggs, uh, Bigsby. he gets 33 yards
Starting point is 01:07:39 that's crazy yeah how you let somebody you second in 31 and they run a handoff and pick it up that's embarrassing yeah it is they get off they got after
Starting point is 01:07:56 jackson dart today too long they got they got after try to make it as try to make it as uncomfortable of a game as possible for him he's still sat in the pocket he's tried to do he tried to extend and played the best way he can
Starting point is 01:08:07 instead of just taking off and running. But they made it hell for him. They, man, they didn't hurt me. They didn't hurt my dog scat pack, man. Yeah, scataboo. That's a very serious thing. I couldn't see, Ocho. I wanted them to show it,
Starting point is 01:08:19 but obviously they were not going to re-show it because it's such a gruesome injury. I don't know whether the hip-drop tackle or was it just a routine tackle. I don't know what it was. It was more bang-bang routine. And when he came down, I think the way it came down
Starting point is 01:08:33 and the defender falling right on that ankle, you know, and it just, it just, the pressure, it just, it was gone. So he's having, it's reported that he's having surgery tonight. So he probably flew back with the, well, they take the train. So he probably, you know, bust him back and he, but he's probably in, well, he probably out of surgery now, but they probably got that thing and had the surgery. Because that's, if I'm not mistaken, that's the same injury like Dakhead. Backhead, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Hey, foot, foot hanging this. same way. Foot hanging the exact same way. So I forgot what the timeline was, but for that to come back. He's done for the year. Yeah, but he'll be back. Obviously done for the year, but. Yeah, yeah, but he'll be back on Joe. He'll be plenty. He'll be ready.
Starting point is 01:09:20 He'll be ready to go. Many cats, he'll be good to go. Yeah, okay. Okay. Okay. It'd be plenty good to go. Yeah. But I'm trying to figure out with the Jazz. Jazz, what's y'all doing? They hand the ball to San Juan. Don't nobody touch him. He goes 65 yards.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Now you got hell on your hands. Now you got to deal with him. Yeah. The rest of the game. You let him do something that he hadn't seen all you. You let him see daylight. You can't let him play in space. See you.
Starting point is 01:09:49 He was gone. He's a guy that you can't let him. You can't give him an inch. He'll take a mile. He's greedy. Every time. He's going to eat everything on his plate and then eat off your plate. So you can't give him that.
Starting point is 01:10:03 And everybody else has done a great job of bottling him up. Now, he's extra motivated. I heard Shea say something. She's like he gets extra motivation when he plays the Clippers. Because when it's all saying done, he wants the OKC Thunder to feel like they won the trade. Shea, they won it. Well, they did now. You don't got to wait till the end of it.
Starting point is 01:10:22 We know now they've won it. You're an MVP and you won the championship and you're a finals MVP. They've won the trade. You don't have to do anything else. They won that trade. And they still get draft picks. From the Clippers. So they won the trade.
Starting point is 01:10:40 Really, really, really, really won the trade. But Sequin, look, yeah, he's motivated. Y'all didn't want me. Y'all, y'all bulljibed around and do all that. Go ahead and see what you can get and, you know, come back to us. When you have no, y'all don't have no desire to train, to, to pay this man. Y'all, y'all just dangled this man around. Oh, we love that.
Starting point is 01:11:05 have you. We know what you mean to this organization. We love your family. We love the way you represent this organization. Bro, stop that. Yeah. Stop it. Because if you wanted him, you could have signed him long before then. No, that. But he's like, I'm going to make y'all pay every chance I get. I'm going to make you play. I'm going to make you pay. I am. I'm going to make you pay. And he was great. Like I said, Jalen did not have to throw the ball many times. he gave his guys an opportunity to make plays the 50-50 ball to Dotson
Starting point is 01:11:39 Dotson goes up over the top but he threw some great balls to Smitty Smitty did some out you know he's small and stature but he plays big Dallas Gartartardt you know hey on a slant round on the goal line he gets the ball in the end zone
Starting point is 01:11:53 and then he scrambles out and he hits a guard of the scene but it's man it's you know what could have been had that rule to fumble, what could have been if Slayton is a touchdown, we'll never know what happens on show.
Starting point is 01:12:11 But I thought the Eagles, I thought the Giants played tough as long as they could. The one thing I will say, Dar, I don't know if you're going to see this. Brough, you can't keep trying to run over people as a quarterback, bro. You can't. You're going to have a very short shelf life. Yeah. Those guys are hurt you, bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 You can't do that. You can't keep dropping your head. Hey, he'll understand. And he'll understand when he tried to rob his head on the right person. And the next day, you know, he peeped out his ribs thinking he in jail. Yeah, that's what he'll learn. Yeah. Well, bro, you can't.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Yeah, I like him. Oh, I love his toughness. But you've got to be tough and smart. You can't just be tough, Ocho, at that position. You got to be smart. Yeah, but let's not take too much of what makes him him. Let's not take too much of what makes him him
Starting point is 01:13:04 and makes him exciting and entertaining like take too much of that way from him because that's why people tune in. Not trying to duck in your head trying to run people over but just that dog, not Scatterball is gone so now the only thing, me as a football fan, me as an NFL fan,
Starting point is 01:13:20 the only thing I have to look forward to with Malik neighbors going out is tuning in to see, okay, let's see what the hell Jackson Dart is going to do. Before it was, okay, let me see what the hell of Scatterbo and Jackson's going to do. That's That's what I felt today. I was excited, like a legitimate excitement.
Starting point is 01:13:37 I know these two, I knew me too for the Ackerphone. They lost Scataboo for the season. He scored his seventh touchdown in the first quarter, in the first quarter. Now, no Scataboo, no Malik neighbors. Offense was struggling without those two guys because it's always seemed like it's like pulling teeth to try to get the ball, get some consistent movement consistency as far as getting the ball in the end zone. They didn't break 200 yards until the final two drives.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Yeah. So it's tough. You lose your best, you lose two or your three best offensive weapons. Now, other guys, Wondell Robinson, you're going to have to step up.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Slate, you guys are going to have to step up. Other guys are going to, what's the little running back name that we had him on, Ocho? He's going to have to step up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Yeah. You're going to have to step up. This was Slayton first game back, right? Yeah. I said, I think, I think they're going to be all right. They're going to be all right.
Starting point is 01:14:26 They got no choice. Tyrone and Tracy. You're going to have Bro, you're going to have to pay big. You know, I know you can do it, Singletary. You guys are going to have to step up in the absence of Scataboo.
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