Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 9 Part 1: Is Brock Purdy NEEDED with Mac Jones BALLING? + Daniel Jones looking AWFUL, More!

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Remember, nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. The bills beat the cheese by the score of 2821, the fourth time this season, the cheese have lost a one-score game. Remember last year, they were winning a lot of these one-score games. When pressure, Mahomes was 3 of 16. for just 61 yards and an interception.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Overall, he completed 15 or 34 passes. This is the first time in his nine-year career that he was held under 50% passing, a streak of 142 games, including the playoffs, which was an NFL record to start a career. They got after it. That's why you go get a Joey Bosa. They couldn't block him.
Starting point is 00:02:55 No, at all. He caused havoc. disruptive all night. He forced Mahomes, made him uncomfortable, get him off the spot, had him having to throw on the run, use his legs a lot, and he, you know, spared up. Juan Johnson, I already know. He's going to get, he going to get, he going to get illegal formation
Starting point is 00:03:18 because he going to line his ass up in the back field. He going to get a holding call. I already know that. Going into the game, Andy Reid is already counted that. Like, okay, he's going to get, he's going to get to. This guy is going to get two penalties. Absolutely. So now, let me call plays according,
Starting point is 00:03:35 knowing that he's going to get those two penalties. But they harassed him all night. They did a great job of pressuring him, making it very, very uncomfortable. Where did the score? But look at it, what did you like about what you saw from Buffalo? Hell, Josh goddamn Allen on? Man, got Josh with a goddamn.
Starting point is 00:03:59 23 for 20 26 for 273 a TD James Cook out there cooking 27 27 to 7 carriers but 114 Kincaid has 6 for 101 obviously Joey Bosa we saw what he did defensively but the goddamn chiefs really couldn't really couldn't get nothing going cream hunt had 49 rice uh rice I almost say Rishit Rice it is Rishit Rice Rish Rysh Rish Rysh. I mean you only have four for 80 so the bill's defense kind of kept kept the chiefs in check mahomes was what 15 for 34 250 at interception and listen god damn it's the regular season it's a good win for buffalo it's a good win but it's the regular season in the regular season josh allen is five and one against patrick mahomes and the kansas city chiefs but that is not where it matters it's not
Starting point is 00:04:53 where it matters what are we going to do when they get to the a fc championship can you get over the hump then and they're going to see each other again and that's probably that's probably going to be the two teams to come out at aFC unless for some some crazy reason the ravens have a resurgence and Lamar is a magician and just bring and just brings them back from I mean what the Ravens what two and two or what no they like I think they were like three three games oh yeah three yeah that mean they might be three and six too um I thought I thought Buffalo did a great job. First of all, the Chiefs really didn't stand a chance
Starting point is 00:05:31 because the Chiefs likes to stop the run. Oh, yeah. This is the first time they've given up 100-yard rusher in, what, 20-something games, which was the longest current active street. Right. Okay, now we can't stop the run. Buffalo did a great job of doing what,
Starting point is 00:05:45 getting tranquil to cover tight ends and slot receivers. That's not what he is. He's a run stuffer. He's not a coverbacker. So he didn't, you see Dawson Knox, you see King Cade, You see, they get secure matched up on it
Starting point is 00:05:58 because they motion and they know it's man coverage. If Kansas City can't stop the run, they can't win. Yeah. Because now you're at the mercy because they're going to play action you and guys going to dunk the ball and they got two tight ends. They got two tight ends that can really can make a difference in the ball game. Right. Knox and Kincaid.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Boy, it's nice, boy. And like you said, Josh Allen did a great job. He was 23. Think about it. of 26. That's dead. You're not hard to be able to go to have three incompletions
Starting point is 00:06:33 in an NFL game? The whole game, only three. That's crazy. What I do want is I want, I don't know what's going on, but I would love for the resurgence of my young bull, Keon Coleman, to be a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Can't separate, Ocho. Huh? He's a big body guy that needs to elevate. It's hard. I mean, look at it. Yeah, I like. He doesn't do, he doesn't win against press coverage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And the thing is, if he can't use his athleticism. Yeah. You keep saying the same thing. Keep saying the same thing. If you go back and study him at Florida State, look at what he's doing. He's leaping over people making catches. Right. You can't beat, if you can't beat man coverage in the NFL,
Starting point is 00:07:24 and you're not Uber, Uber, I'm talking about like, like elite of elite of elite right if you can't beat man coverage there are two jobs that's available for you car salesman and coaching we're gonna get him right we don't get him right i just he he has too much talent on yeah too much talent not to be not to be being used he got to be well you got to you got to work on his quick titch because he got to get off get off man coverage yeah can't separate yeah we we're we're gonna get him right you don't get him right we don't get him right Yeah, but I saw early on to what they were trying, what they were doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Is that they were getting those tight ends matched up on Tranquil. Yeah. Getting the linebackers matched up on the linebackers. Right. Those are run stuff for linebackers. And Josh Shalding is a guy. I mean, they got him down three times. But he's so tough, man.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hey. Because at 6-6-255, he going to break and tame. It's a rap. And even when you think you got him, he's going to do something. He, you know, he's a magician. with the ball he's he's man i i i rue the days that he was supposed to be in denver and we took we took bradley chub over josh allen well he could have been in denver huh yep damn that's crazy i mean i think i think if you can go back and do the draft there are a lot of teams that regret some of the
Starting point is 00:08:47 players they take they've taken but my thing is oh cho we needed a quarterback why would you you don't never i get it you want to to pair Bradley Chubb with Vaughn Miller. I'm not, you need a quarterback. Wait, hold on. Without him, I don't give a damn who you pair with Von Miller. You can pair Pat Sertan with Von Miller.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Without a quarterback, you're not going nowhere. Who was the quarterback that year? Where they chose Bradley Chub instead of going to get a quarterback. Oh, man, please. Who was it? It must have been somebody. Was it the guy from Northwestern?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Mm-hmm. And you know what also, when that, when that draft happened, you know, GMs and scouts, they didn't really think Josh Allen would be who Josh Allen is now. He was a project. He was listed as a project. If they knew he would have turned out to be what he is now, oh, they wouldn't have hesitated, man. They wouldn't hesitate it. But they, they, you just didn't know.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Case Keenham. We had Case Keenum, a journeyman. Case Keenum, been with the Texans, he had been with the Vikings. Yeah, yeah. He'd been with, like, several teams. And you Pat, you thought Case Keenom. You thought Case Keenom. Hold on, but you know, remember we talk about, you talk about identity, right?
Starting point is 00:10:17 Yes. The identity was on defense back then during the time you're speaking of. The identity was defense. So your office was going to carry it Because it wasn't no quarterback You're going to get It wasn't no Peyton Manning out there No
Starting point is 00:10:31 But you got to have a quarterback I don't care how good your defense is You don't got no quarterback It ain't happening Unk Y'all had a great defense in Baltimore Yes You just need a quarterback
Starting point is 00:10:45 That can't turn the ball over Ocho they don't allow you to play like that That was 20 years ago You're not winning a Super Bowl Playing that style of football first of all the rules prohibited right the incidental contact the ruffing the passer the defenseless receiver ain't none of that yeah i understand they they deter that now but i'm saying a defense that good the broncos that that year no no no fly zone no no no fly zone broncos they were gone there was no
Starting point is 00:11:16 there was no more demarcans wear there was no more all those those guys were gone okay my baby no you have and you get an opportunity to get a A quarterback? Yeah, you take him. You got to, you, that's a 15-year guy. You plug him in. Oh, yeah, well, you know he's a 15-year guy, don't know. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Let's just say for the sake of argument, even as great as great as Aaron Donald was, he didn't win no championship until they got Matthew Stafford. Three-time defensive player of the year. I eight nine-time first-team all-pro. One of the greatest defensive players ever Yeah, it took a quarterback In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you
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Starting point is 00:14:42 on five catches a week after a franchise low 10 rushing attempts, Shannahan team ran the ball 39 times for a buck 59. I'm not surprised. That's normally how it works when you got a lot of his dad make up about him. Like, okay, we got to get our best player to football. Handy to him. Matt Jones played incredibly well, and that's what, Ocho, this is what you want from your backup.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I need you to keep us afloat until the starter comes back. He's done more than that. He's been, he's been, he's what I thought he would be in this office. This office is perfect for Matt Jones. I mean, he got great anticipation. They run the football. They do a lot of play action. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:36 A lot of boots, a lot of roles. McCaffrey was great today. Jennings caught a touchdown. Rand a whip, you know, started inside. Ah, got it back out. Kendrick Bourne did what Kendra born normally. does. Look, it's tough when you, you, I mean, 21 for 1117 yards. Not bad, Ocho. Jackson Dart was 2433, 191, two touchdowns. Um, but, uh, 49ers, 49ers, like I said, the 49ers,
Starting point is 00:16:15 the Rams and Seattle, you could possibly get three teams out of that division, Ocho. Yeah. just like you got last year you got three teams out of the NFC north you might get three teams I think but I thought Matt Jones 19 or 24-Ocho 235 two touchdowns no no turn oh he fumbled one he lost the lost the fumble they're going to come out
Starting point is 00:16:42 it's going to be them in Seattle they both can come out what about the Rams oh man the Rams is a you like the Rams to win the division And those two teams, Seattle and 49ers get the wild card? Yeah, absolutely. The Rams automatic, huh? The Rams automatic, especially once they get Pooga back.
Starting point is 00:17:01 And with Puga's absence, they still cut in the fool because Stafford and goddamn Devonty Adams out there having a goddamn ball. But Mac Jones is playing so well, especially when they filter the offense through goddamn, I'm getting ready to forget, McCaffrey, McCaffrey. They filter the offense through McCaffrey, and then they run the open up the pass, and it makes everything so much easier. defense is the word about McCaffrey because he's a dual threat. Hell, if he's not running out the back field,
Starting point is 00:17:27 he isolated with the mismatch on your goddamn backer. What, um, when is the 49ers by a week? Have they had their by week yet? Cupertie got to be coming back pretty soon. But Mac Jones, Mac Jones has done his job. Mac Jones has done his job.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Damn. Ooh, they got to be, that got to be the latest buy. What happened? 49ers by is week 14. God damn. Did you know what I see it? The Chargers beat the Titans by the score of 2720. Dayon Henley's older brother Jabari was shot and killed Friday night in Los Angeles on Halloween.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Henley came through today with seven tackles. His third sack of the seat. A tackle for a loss and a QB hit. Henley said after the game, right now, I'm just floating. The only thing that's consistent right now in my life, and that is crazy to say is football. So for me, that's why I'm out here. That's why I'm out there because this is the most consistent thing
Starting point is 00:18:37 that I've got in my life right now is football, and I'm just trying to make the most of it. Rest up, bro, we had him on the, we had him on Ocho. Yeah. Talk about, you know, we understand. He understands his father and the path that he chose, and he told him, you know, his father said, and he said, I don't want to go there
Starting point is 00:18:55 and his father, you know, made sure he shielded him and protect him for that. Yes, sir. I don't know the situation, and I'm not going to even speculate. All I know is the man lost his brother tragically. And so I don't want to get, but I'm saying, he understands that and he says, man, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:19:10 in the locker room, he's like, man, I'm just, he said, I just fell to my knees, man, to be honest with you. If I'm going to be all the way real with you guys, man, I can just imagine. Yeah. Imagine. But he said, you know, he found out, Denzel Perman
Starting point is 00:19:25 knocked on his door and woke him up and told him he need to call, you need to call home. And I can just, I can imagine the hurt and of what, what he felt in that moment. And still, he's still dealing with it. Justin Herbert was 19 or 29, 2.50, two touchdowns, one of the deception. Tennessee sacked him six times.
Starting point is 00:19:47 or Ronde Gasson, the second. Five catchers, 68 yards, Lambackey, 4 for 56. Quentin Johnson, 4 for 53 in a touchdown. Keenan Allen had two for 41. But Justin Herbert was the leading rusher with 57 yards on nine carries. Cam Ward 12 and 21, 145, no touchdown, nor deceptual was sacked four times. They didn't run the ball, particularly. particularly well. They didn't do anything particularly well today. And they were still in the
Starting point is 00:20:21 ball game. Even though they didn't do anything really well offensively, Ocho, they still had chances in this ball game and give a, if I'm not mistaken, I think the 49, the 49th, the charges stopped them on goal to go on two occasions. See how, see what I talk about? See how how hard it is to go? Huh? What's it, Texas? Yeah, the Titans Yeah, so yeah, I guess The Titans' offense and the Bengals' office
Starting point is 00:20:55 That's similar, okay, I get you though Whoa, hold up I think what you're putting down Come again? Who said that? You said it. You said it's hard to score For the Titans.
Starting point is 00:21:05 They got a rookie quarterback. I ain't, Okay, but okay, I get you, I'm picking up I'm picking up what you're saying down. Don't, don't, that's, now that's disrespectful. That's totally disrespectful. I mean we score on 40 points a game there's a difference but you're in the red zone and you didn't
Starting point is 00:21:22 no I'm telling you I'm trying to help get you to better understand how difficult it is to score in the red zone it's very difficult when you don't score for far up when you got that kind of offense because there's only so much you can do when there's a small amount of field to work with huh very very very small very small The Rams run roughshadow with the Saints 34 to 10 Matthew Stafford was 2432 281, 4 touchdowns, no interceptions
Starting point is 00:21:57 No turnovers Kyron Williams, 25 rushes, 114 yards They ran the ball 43 times for 171 yards Pooka Nakua, 7 catches, 95 yards, a touchdown Duvante Adams, five catches, five catches, 50 yards, two touchdowns. Ferguson, two catches, 54 yards. Allen, three catches, 37 yards.
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Starting point is 00:24:54 top three in touchdowns because i mean he had five touchdowns against jacksonville he had four today that's nine i know he had at least nine in the other games that he's played but, man, listen, they didn't, listen, they didn't, they didn't, they didn't Ben Spencer Rattler for Tyler Shook and... It don't matter. Hey, I, man. You got 21, he leading the league? Who he tied with?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I think Mahomes had 21 total touchdowns coming in I don't think you had like 18 passing. But the Holmes came to lead. You're right. Uh-huh. Oh, so. Now that's 21.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Okay, okay. Rams look good. They can get after you with the, ooh, they can get after you with that defense. Verse and young. Yeah, so they can get out, listen, they can get out of your defense. You got Fisk.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Man, a young got out the ball and they called it, he had a sack, but he hit the quarterback right up on his chin. Yeah. Hey, that's hard, man. When the boy be going full speed like that coming off, coming off their edge, man. That's real hard. It is. Nah, I can't land on you.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I got to land to the side. I can't put my body weight down on you. That's crazy. You know what they should do? To be petty, defense ends and tackles that tackle the quarterback, she's just tacking them and just hold them. Just hold them up. Just hold them just like child's play.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Just shove them in the back, get whipped lair. Then they're going to say, you can't do that. They'll find a way to protect the quarterback. But I get it. I get it. The game we love, how much it has changed. All right, we're going to get you out here on this one, though, Cho. your Bengals.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Oh, just got scored on again. Damn. Oh, we're going to get this game right here. The Broncos beat the Texas by the score 1815. Will Lutz. 34-yard game winning field goal. It was the Broncos' fourth win this season
Starting point is 00:27:28 in a game in which they trail to start of the four quarter. Mm-hmm. It was also the fourth game this season in which the Broncos defense has not surrendered a touchdown. Six-game win streak along since the 2015 Broncos when they went on to win Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:27:47 Fitty. Hey, you see how good that defense is? You see what I mean? All field goals. You see what I mean? Uh-huh. I know it's not the early 2000s, but when you have a defense like that, where all three levels of your defense is very, very, very good. There's really
Starting point is 00:28:07 no weak link. Well, actually there is one weak link. They pick on him all the time. Riley Moss. I mean, that would be your weak link. That would be your fish. But other than that, man, shoot. But y'all, y'all willing to dealing.
Starting point is 00:28:23 But guess what? When they need to get in field goal right, go back and look at when they played the Giants. Yeah. What did the quarterback do, Bo Nix? What did he do? When they played the Eagles when they were down, what did Bo Nix do? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:35 When they played the Houston tennis, and they needed to go, what did Bo Nix do? If great as the defense played, if Bo Nix doesn't do what he does, they're not winning. Bo Nix, 18 to 37, 173, two touchdowns interception, he was sacked once. Davis Mills was 17 to 31, 37.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He was sacked twice. The Broncos had four sacks. If I'm not mistaken, I think I'm almost certain they're leading the league in sacks. They did a great job, stuff in the run, 28 rush attempts for the Texans, 77 yards. The Broncos had 18 rushes for 173 yards.
Starting point is 00:29:17 But, you know, I just don't get the Broncos sometimes. I mean, sometimes they're like, they just go to up and down the field, just move up and down the field. And then again, the next day, you know, like, bro, what happened? Why are y'all struggling?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Hey, I don't, it's difficult in the red. zone. I told you. See, your own team having problems with it too. Hell, they barely got to the red zone. Hold on. You move up and down, you move up and down the field. You get in the red zone and then you can't score. It's not, it's very difficult. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:29:50 It's hard. Especially if you don't score from far out, but once you get inside that 20, boy, you got to be creative as hell. Or you got to have some players that can win one-on-one and be phenomenal. That's very difficult. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Oh, Joe, we only got to the Reds on one time. But y'all sorry. And we had two turnovers. And y'all, hey, listen, y'all had two turnovers, y'all were able to overcome it. We had two turnovers. We weren't able to overcome it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 And we scored 38. Matter of fact, we scored 42. We scored 42. Now, what, what, How do you think we are looking if we had y'all defense? Come on, Ocho. You won everything. This man wore everything.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Who does Broncos have, who did Broncos play next week? She'll be coming up to a buy. Yeah, so we own our buy. So listen, I'm good. I ain't got to worry about nothing. Oh, the Broncos got the Raiders on Thursday. Yeah, y'all, y'all going to lose that game. Oh, Lord, that mercy.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Y'all going to lose that game. Riggal by 10 times. No, I'm saying I understand how football works. Understand how the football guards work. It's just the way it is. As bad as the Raiders have played this season in general, for some reason, it's a game like this one where you expect, you expect the Broncos win.
Starting point is 00:31:35 but I don't expect them to win I expect them to play good I expect the ratings to play bad and we win okay okay yeah we're gonna see who get the last laugh all that laughing and then Kiki and you was doing the day
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Starting point is 00:34:15 Ochoo you was happy you were there when y'all scored that touchdown they got the allside kick and then scored again I was hyped absolutely I was hyped
Starting point is 00:34:25 I was jumping up and down I was here my kids looking at me boy daddy was wrong I say nothing but we about to win baby what you mean was wrong No, that ain't about to happen.
Starting point is 00:34:35 And, man, that's, man, that's such a, oh, my goodness, man, if I could explain the let down and the hurt, and then boom, it hit me. Couldn't happen. Why do I always do this? Why do I always do that you invest so much into a team? Not only did I play for him, but I still support them. I still show up to him. I don't know you do.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And I'm invested into it. I'm investing into the seasons as if I'm a fan. Unk, I enjoy the game of football as if I never play. it. As if I never played it. That's why any time I go to a game, like the fan experience for me is like it's new to me because I've never been on the other side. I've never been in the stands. I've always been on the field. So I enjoy so much from a different perspective, it hurts a little bit more. It hurts a little bit more because I played the game. I played the game and I'm looking and I know what you're supposed to do. That's why I said you can't divest. You can't
Starting point is 00:35:33 become desensitized because you care too much it's not try though I mean you try to convince yourself of that but you and I both know that's not the case oh Joe the Minnesota Vikings go in to get J.J. McCarthy back and they go in and they beat
Starting point is 00:35:49 the Detroit Lions by the score of 27 to 24 JJ McCarthy 14 to 25 143 2 touchdowns one interceptions Aaron Jones Sr. had 9 carries 78 yards They ran the ball 29 times for 142, but it was Minnesota's defense.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Jared golf was 25 or 37, 284-2 touchdowns, but they stuffed Sonic and Knuckles. 20 rushes, 65 yards, and one costly turnover, David Montgomery fumbled the ball, and that was the difference in the ball game. But they got after Jerry golf, they sacked him five times. Minnesota played really well. J.J. McCarthy, I thought, played well today. He was able to move around by some time. But especially that backbreaker where he read the ball,
Starting point is 00:36:39 he broke contained, he got the ball in the end zone. Justin Jefferson, he had a touchdown. Addison had two catches for 48 yards. Jetta had six for 47. Hawkinson had two for 11. Well, listen, it was the defense of the day, huh? It was a deep of the day. Neither offenses had, you know, extreme, extreme crazy production.
Starting point is 00:37:00 what we're used to seeing and I knew if Brian Flores could find a way to stop the run I mean most of the time when team the run when Detroit can't run the ball they're still able to be efficient through the air they're still able to be efficient through the air
Starting point is 00:37:14 but Brian Flores dialing up that goddamn pressure you know excuse me getting golf off a spot I mean they play really good you got pressure because you know he's not he's not going nowhere he can't go nowhere he can't move
Starting point is 00:37:28 both quarterbacks were sacked five times Campbell, Barnes, Lacey, Hutchinson got a sack, Mohammed got a sack, and then for the Hardgrave, Wilson had two sacks, Redmond had a sack, Drake Rodriguez had a sack, but I was surprised if somebody would have told me that Minnesota was going to go there
Starting point is 00:37:57 and win that ball game, I wouldn't have believed them. Because I thought Detroit was playing really, really well. Really well. The only reason, if they did tell me that Minnesota would have been the game, the only reason I would have believed them is the fact that I understand
Starting point is 00:38:09 how good Minnesota's defense is. Now, some weeks, some weeks they get trashed. I think it might have been last week, if I'm not mistaken, they look abysmal. They look horrible. I think it was last week. But I understand when they're playing well and they're playing on all cylinders
Starting point is 00:38:23 and everyone is playing as a unit, they're as good as any other defense in the NFL. And it showed the day. It showed the day. And being able to stop Jamir Gibbs in Montgomery is a tall task. It's a tall task. And they did one hell of a job at it. Well, I think the thing is, Ocho, when you look at this,
Starting point is 00:38:41 they got sacked five times. They had committed 10 penalties, which was a season high for 76 yards. They were 5 of 17 on third down. We know Detroit is very, very good in third down because normally they're third and manageable. You start keeping, you keep getting those third and long, those third and eight, third and ten, third and twelves. You start keep playing behind the sticks. Five of, 17? Right.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Nah, nah. So that means give Minnesota credit. Like you said, because their defense was getting them off the field on third down. They were three or three on fourth down. But I think you had to give Minnesota credit. J.J. McCarthy played well. He didn't have to do a whole lot with his arm. they were able to run the football
Starting point is 00:39:23 and keep Detroit somewhat off balance. But Detroit, hey, that's the thing, is that how you thought you, whatever you thought was going to happen, you don't know. It ain't no guarantee that you're going to do the same thing you did last year offensively. You see it's different.
Starting point is 00:39:43 It's a big difference from year to year. Oh, we did this last year, oh, we went this last year. It ain't no guarantee. It's not a guarantee that it's going to play out for you this year. The coach, six turnovers.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Hands of Steelers evicted, 2720. Fans had a funeral at Steelers' defense aside at the Shor Stadium before kickoff. Inside the stadium, there was a resurrection. The defense got five sacks, forced the season-high six takeaways,
Starting point is 00:40:15 and held the league's best offense to 20 points. That right tackle, I think is Braden's Spragdon's. Smith? Yeah. He got his ass kicked today. Oh, yeah, absolutely. He got a kick. He flat out got a kick today.
Starting point is 00:40:28 He should go, and apologize. Now, Daniel Jones, he was awful. Ain't no way around that. He played terrible today. But that right tackle gave it up. Now, Jones did get a little unlucky. He's trying to throw a ball out to the left side. He got basset, and it carms back, and the Steelers got intercepted.
Starting point is 00:40:48 But the mere fact that it was still a game, Mocho? Yeah. After five sacks and six takeaways and it's still a game lets you know just how good they can be if they don't turn it over like that. That was the difference in this game. They turned the ball over.
Starting point is 00:41:07 The fact that it was still a game, Daniel Jones, listen, it wasn't a good day for him, but he's still through for 342. 342. Yeah, he still through for 342. Three interceptions. And the funny thing about it is if the Steelers didn't play
Starting point is 00:41:23 didn't play well on defense, they would have got obliterated. Yeah. If they didn't turn, if Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis coach didn't turn the ball over, they would have got obliterated. Aaron Rogers was 25 and 35, 25, 203,
Starting point is 00:41:39 one touchdown. They ran the ball 23 times for 38 yards, which is terrible. But like you said, their defense bailed them out today. Their defense absolutely bailed them out today. When you get six takeaways and sack the quarterback five times, that's the score that probably should be,
Starting point is 00:41:56 you probably should win by three, four touchdown. Yeah, absolutely. But it just goes to show you that Andy has a good defense and the Steelers are going to have to do a lot better offensively, Ocho. Because a lot of teams not going to give you six takeaways.
Starting point is 00:42:11 No. Hey, hell, you get one or two, you're probably going to win the game. You get six? It should be a blowout. Six? Man, that happens in high school. Getting six most of the time,
Starting point is 00:42:27 your quarterback has to be horrible. Yeah. Horrible. So, you know, Daniel Jones had a bad day, but he's looked phenomenal all season long. He's looked phenomenal all season long. So having one day like this, okay, boom, I'm human. I'm human.
Starting point is 00:42:43 I'm making errors. I'm making mistakes. I'm back to the drone board. Monday morning, you reset, and you come on back next week and pick up where you, left off the week before you played the Steelers. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Falcons, Rahim Morris, said the Patriots defense simulated the snap on a key four downplay by clapping leading to an intentional grounding penalty by Michael Pennix. The Falcons trail 2423 with 209 remaining at the end of the game and the Patriots, 48-yard line, when Ryan Nozzles snapped the ball on the second down before Pennix, Other offensive line was ready for it.
Starting point is 00:43:24 The Patriots immediately pressure Pennix because nobody else moved who threw the ball towards the dirt in the direction of Kyle Pitts. Penix was called for an intentional grounding, resulted in a loss of doubt, and a 10-yard penalty. Defense simulating a snap count, or snap is a 15-yard penalty on the NFL discerning signals. It's rarely called, however,
Starting point is 00:43:47 because it's hard to pinpoint where exactly the clap or the sounds coming from, in a stadium. But see, that's why you don't clap. That's why when you're on the road, normally what they do, Ocho, who have the guard. Silent count.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. He tapped the center. You tap the center. He flashed in front of his hand. When you clap, you, come on now. But you ain't in college no more. That's what they do in college.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Right. Well, you shouldn't have been in this situation. Hell, you tie the ball game up and your damn kicker come out there and shrink the PAT. That's what's, was heartbreaking. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:24 All you got to do is make the PAT. Put pressure on the Patriots to go down and get a field goal. Yep. It was a good. Hey, Drake May, do you realize the goddamn Patriots
Starting point is 00:44:39 are seven and not seven and two? Yeah. I know another team that's seven and two. I also know a team that's not seven and two. I mean, who you talk about? Who you talk about? I know a team that's seven and two Another team that's seven and two
Starting point is 00:44:55 I said the Patriots I know another team Besides the Patriots are 72 Oh you're talking about the bills I know another team Shoot I think that's about it It ain't Who you talk about
Starting point is 00:45:09 Who I know who is it 72 I know a team that's only one Like three games Yeah it's a few of them Yeah what you're talking about baltimore
Starting point is 00:45:22 give a I mean and somebody they give up like 40 points a game like it ain't nothing we scope 40 a game too but it's never on the W side I mean listen sometime life
Starting point is 00:45:37 a life give your limits you make fruit punch uh the Patriots they are 7 and 2 uh Drake May was 19 to 29 two touchdowns one of reception
Starting point is 00:45:50 Falcons got after Mocho They sacked them six times Dang Drake London had an outstanding game He had three Boy, he gave Gonzalez Fits A you know what He gave Gonzalez ass fits
Starting point is 00:46:08 That's a great matchup Too big on big Well he lost Well Gonzalez lost that one Yeah big on big I mean shoot Drake London With what 9 for 1118 And a three TDs on
Starting point is 00:46:19 three yeah b jean didn't really get off the day he only had 12 carries for 46 mm-hmm that's not enough hey rush a temp 71 yards uh uh eight a um the receiver douglas the douglas got off yeah uh i think it was revealed after the game his uncle was shot and killed yeah last night mm-hmm stephan diggs had a touchdown excuse me hunter Henry had four-for-fifty one. But the Patriot, Gonzales, man, he gets injured a lot, too. Yeah, he injury prone.
Starting point is 00:46:56 He's really good, though, huh? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. When he healthy, I'm talking about all the way right. Boy, he's nice. Hell, I ain't seen him. I ain't seen him play a whole year yet. He's nice. But I think Newland's going to be a tough out.
Starting point is 00:47:13 They're well-coached. Um, they're good enough offensively. Mm-hmm. Defensively, you know, look, Bray will cut his teeth on that side of the football so you know they're going to be able to get out the people defensively. But, hey, and they've already gone to Buffalo and beaten Buffalo in their building. Bless you.
Starting point is 00:47:43 So it's going to be interesting. The L.C. East, It's a two-team race It's a two-team race It's Buffalo and New England That's it That's it The thing is that you can't afford
Starting point is 00:47:55 To have any slip-ups When you play those other two teams So when you play the jazz and the dolphins You're supposed to do what you're supposed to do So you got no worry about But I thought Atlanta I thought Atlanta was going to pull this one out
Starting point is 00:48:08 I can't Kick a Mr. P. P.A. Ocho You go down the field Drake London make a hell of a camp A hell of a catch. And then you can trot your ass out there and shake it. Shankopotamus. Hey.
Starting point is 00:48:26 The fact that the Patriots, man, had a 20-year, had a 20-year bid, man, of nothing but consistent, consistent success at the quarterback position. And then them figured it out already and got another damn quarterback. And it got them. Hell, I think Matt Jones would have been fired for them. had they not messed had coach Belichick not try to have a special teams coach and a defensive coordinator
Starting point is 00:48:50 be his offensive coordinator because remember what he was like when he had Josh McGaigne they went to the playoffs that year he was nice he was nice but then I'm just saying I'm trying to just give the example of the dolphins
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