Club Shay Shay - BEST OF NFL Week 9 Part 2: Unc BLAMES Jayden Daniels' injury on Dan Quinn + Rico Dowdle becoming a STAR running back

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Yeah. Hey, um, take your time now. I know you're feeling good. I know you're feeling good. I feel Tony the Tiger. Great. Now. Now, where were we?

Now, I mean, I know y'all going to put that on the defense. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, you stop right there. Who are you going to put it on? Please explain to me who you're going to put it on. Did y'all have any turnovers? Okay, yeah. How many turnovers did you have? Two.

Oh, it was three. Okay, okay. So let me ask you a question. Okay, we had three. Did those turnovers help or hinder your ability to win this game? Did they help or hinder? It hindered. It hindered.

So let's just say for the sake of argument. Talk to me. Instead of having three turnovers, you have one and you score a field goal or you score a touchdown. Could this have been different? Yeah, we don't win the game. But you know, it's the game of football, Lunk. There were three turnovers.

We still put ourselves in position to win the game. We were in position to win the game. And you know what happened? You know what happened? Our defense let us down again. Our defense let us down again. even with those turnovers. We were in position to win the game.

The Bengals of the first team since 1960 to score 38 points in back-to-back games and lose. Goddam, Joe Flacco, 170 years old, and threw for 470 yards, and we still lost the game. Defense, again, which has always been our Achilles' heel, over and over and over again, time and time and time again, year after year after year. I understand that the offense is our identity.

It's always been our identity. Even back to when I was playing, we have always been an offensive team, an offensive unit. But at some point, you got to, you got to compete. You got to play. You got to want to want to. All your money is tied up on offense. It doesn't matter.

That's where you have to win the game. Hello? Hello? Let me ask you a question. We scored 38. Let me ask you question. How many $20 million defensive players do you guys have? one you got three 30 million dollars you got two 30 million dollars that play the same

position just opposite to each other and you got a 50 million dollar quarterback so where is all your money tied up on offense I mean that oh you hold on wait a minute that's how I did it you know I mean every every team is like that there's no team that's that's damn there even like that look at the cleat and the brown where's all their money tied up on the defensive end Yes, Cincinnati. So guess what you're going to have to do? So guess where you have to win the games at? Offense.

We're scoring 38. This is the NFL. We scored 38. You got to score 48. Huh? You scored 42 with three turnovers. If you don't turn the ball over, how many of you score, Ocho? Shoot, about a 50 ball and some change.

Exactly. 50 balls wins you the ball game. But listen, check, check is that right? Listen to this. Hey, chat, y'all stop laughing too. I know y'all probably laughing too. There ain't no laughing matter because I'm pissed off the day. Hey, listen, we kicked off, we had a kickoff return for a TD.

We had a block field goal, on-site kick and recovery. We had 500 yards, 2 wide receivers, 100 plus yards, 15 points. We scored 15 points in less than a goddamn minute. 42 total points scored. 42 total point. If you were the read-off, what I just said to somebody who didn't watch the bang on game, the first thing was going to say, oh, well, goddamn, all that, I know y'all won. 42 points and we still lost.

Yes. Despite the turnovers. Despite the turnover. But this is the game of football. You want to minimize the errors as much as possible. That's why we practice. We practice to minimize the errors as much as possible. But they happen, huh?

They happen. It's football. As much as you practice, you want to be as perfect as possible, but shit happens. And it happened today. As a matter of fact, three of them happen. It shouldn't have been that close anyway, because, oh boy, Edmunds picked that ball off. Y'all got it to touch that man down. That should have been a touchdown to the house.

House call. Hey, that's, hey, honestly, I'm numb to it, I'm numb to it. Hey, I'm so numb to it. I'm numb to it like, like, like, like, you know how you go through something so much in life and it happens to you so much often. It's like, you know what, at this point, I don't even care no more. Like, I don't, I don't even care no more. Like, I care to an extent.

but I mean this is back to back the Jets the Jets last week and then on top of that and then on top of that the bears like come on man and listen the bears ain't no joke because hey on against the Jets last week

yes let me talk to me real quick before the season started who are the two teams I said everybody needs to watch out for this year Bears than the Panthers okay so again I'm not talking trash about the bears because I already said I knew what they were going to look like I knew what they were probably going to do with addition to Ben Johnson as the officer of coordinator

and head coach calling those plays with Caleb Williams and the talent that he has. But come on, man, two weeks in a row, scored over 38 points and lost both games. And, oh, come on, my defense. Listen, they just had a defense of meeting. They just had a player's only defense of meeting this past. Who did?

They was doing the Bengals. They were talking about what costume. They were talking about the outfits that they were to the game. They didn't discuss. no game playing. Man, listen, man.

At some point when, Hey, they're talking about the Halloween party. Man, what you're going there? Yeah. Hey, when it comes to tackling, sometimes it's just about want to. It's about want to.

It's about want to. It's about wanting to get the individual putting a hat on a pad. You're wearing pads for a reason. Put your goddamn pads on somebody. Wrap up. If you ain't going to wrap up, make sure it's clean.

Keep your eyes open. Before you make contact, everybody close your eyes. Do your best mic. single-tery job as possible. Open your eyes wide open. Make the tackle. Ensure it.

God damn. The bingo scored two touchdowns in the span of 49 seconds to erase a 15-point lead. But the bears pulled their fifth win of the season when Williams delivered a 58-yard touchdown to rookie tied-in, Colston, Loveland

with 17 seconds remaining. The bingoes are the first team in the Super Bowl era to allow 500-plus yards and 38 plus points and have zero takeaways in consecutive games. Ocho, let's take a listen to what Chase Brown had to say after this game. We just got to play complimentary football. Like, we put the ball in the end zone and go up a point at the end, finish the fucking game.

Like, just end it. Like, that's it. Like, that's, like, that's what we need to do. Just end the fucking game. Like, make them, make them get us the ball back. Let us go to 22 victory and let's end the game. That's how I feel. If he said that, because let me tell you how we are.

Go ahead. Go ahead. When you're frustrated. What you say publicly is not nearly as bad as what you say behind closed doors. Oh, absolutely not. It's bad. And not nearly as bad is when you're in the shower or when you walk in the locker room, you, hey, you saw Chase walking off the field in the tunnel saying one effing stop.

But he said that I can't say too much because I don't want to do it. Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. But look, you're talking to a guy that can speak from experience. Yes, sir. Because I was on that 2000 Ravens team. We went five weeks and didn't score a touchdown. Let that sink in for a second, chat.

We went five weeks. Five, one, two, three, four, five. We didn't score a touchdown. Yeah. And it could have splited the team. But at the time, myself, Rod and Ray, we did everything together. And I told me, and I said, Ray, y'all have been outstanding. But the things that I love about football, they don't take units to the Super Bowl.

They take teams. So now what you can do is be supportive publicly. Yes. We're going to get our things fixed. We're not going to be the Minnesota Vikings of 1980. 98. We're not going to score 35. That's not what we are. But we can do a better job of taking care of the football. Give y'all, hey, y'all will have to make 14 or 17 stick because we're not going to be putting up no 30s. I'm just going to tell you right now. So if you're looking for a 30

something, that ish ain't happening. So get your mind and says, hey, they're going to give us a 10 point lead, and we might have to make 10 stick. Yeah. But complaining and publicly, stick together. Yeah. Stick together. I know it's frustrated. Hell, I'm frustrated because we're coming out the field and the fans booing, but they don't

know. I'm booing too. They're like, man, you hear them booing? Yeah, I hear them booing. Yeah, I hear them booing. Because we suck. Because we did. Yeah.

I mean, honestly, with offensive players have to understand, you've got to be careful what you say, especially, you know, as an officer player, you got to be careful what you say because, listen, it's going to come games. We still got a long, we got a head, we got a long season to go. You're going to be games, Ocho. Hey, we got a long season to go, and you don't want to be making mistakes, and you have defensive players calling out the offense as well. So it can get real petty.

Doesn't it all we work out like that? We guys complain about the ball. Yeah. They throw it to him, what happens, Ocho? They drop it. You drop it, yep. I mean, a thing can get real petty in that locker room. They don't need the splinter.

I think Chase Brown and, you know, Jamar, you got to be careful with some of the things you say. Be supportive of your defense, even though you are losing. Some of the things you really want to say, don't say it. You know, keep it in your head, just be supportive as much as possible because things are going to turn around. Maybe not for the better, but they're going to be games where the defense plays well, and the offense is the shit. It will be a little. You remember when y'all went to the Super Bowl, Joe Burrell got sacked nine times in Tennessee. Yeah.

Defense took the ball away. Look at what they did in Kansas City. Took the ball away. Look, now the way you guys are set up, you guys are set up. And it's hard to play like that. I told you this last year. I say, Joe knows that if I leave anything on my plate, they're going to eat it. So I got, oh, Joe, I got to clean the plate.

Yeah, you got to. Which means every possession, he got a damn near score. He got a damn near score. Because his defense, they don't take the ball away. They don't generate pressure. I mean, I'm looking at this game. I'm like, y'all are just, y'all just bad. I mean, they're just bad.

Now, this nigga, I'm, oh, shoot, my bad. I'm tripping. This dude, flacko was 31 for 47, four TDs, and 470 yards. 470 yards at 40-something years old. T. Higgins has 7 for 121 in a TD. I don't even, I don't even know what chasing. Two T-D. I don't even know what Chase numbers was earlier.

6.4.1.11. Six foot. And, man. Brown had 8 for 75. ISO had 5 for 66. Hudson had 2 for 42. Noah Fan had 2 28 on a tub. And Tinsley had 1 for 27.

Hey, that got, hey, man. That flackle was dealing, boy. Like, it's like, I mean, for us to play the way, for us to play as well as we are offensively, despite the woes, despite the turnovers, you want to do everything you can to minimize those because you understand that our defense is not that good. We're not that good on any level,

whether it be the back end, hell, the second level, hell, the front level for that matter. You know, no disrespect to them boys, but, I mean, it just is what it is. Offense has... Go ahead. I'm going to say, offense, they got big... As well as they played the day,

you just can't turn the ball over. Because you can't make up for it. Knowing what you know, how poor your defense is. Yeah. What's the last thing that you want to do? Turn the ball over and put our ass back out there. Because the thing about, Ocho, if they're driving the field, if they're driving 75, 80 yards, what's going to happen if you give them a short field?

If you can't stop it from going to go in 75, 80, what makes you going to stop, what makes you think you can stop it from going 30? Yeah. You're not. You're not. I mean, they're running. Man, they run it. They run it.

Hey, it's the first time. How long, I forgot how long they said it's been. A quarterback called two passes in a game. That's what they're doing to y'all. They throw passes to the quarterback, not one, two. Mm-hmm. I understand, you know, that's that Ben Johnson creativity. That's what I do for y'all because I know y'all can't stop nothing we do.

Nothing. Who would even subject their quarterback to possibly getting, Uh, uh, hello. Remember RG3 try to catch a pass against the Steelers? RG3 laid him out on the sideline. We got hit, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

That's what you do. They say, they ran a street. Oh, Joe, I get it on the gold line, you lose sight. I mean, they handed to the guy and he had, uh, toss it to DJ Moore. Yeah. They ran a screen with a quarterback. Hold on. You understand the point of that play is to confuse the defense.

You get him going one way and you get him going another way. and the quarterback always sneaks out the back end because eyes, eye discipline, eye discipline, you put your eyes in the wrong place, all of a sudden you lose the man you're supposed to have. Most of the time where you see reverse and it go one way and then the ball coming back to the other, you lose the quarterback.

You lose the quarterback in where he is. That's why he was wide open like that. That's why it's called a trick play. I think it might have worked on any team, especially down there at that time. Let me ask you a question. Somebody's already responsible for the quarterback. When you run the bootleg is the defensive end.

Or if somebody has the quarterback. Oh, he got, he got, he got, he got, he got sucked in. Well, he didn't, he didn't crash down on the goddamn, oh, sweet, the toss line. That in his responsibility. You see what, you see what happens? If you try, if, look here, if I do my job and something goes awry, I did my job. Right. Because the last thing I want to do is do somebody else's job, and then all of a sudden my job go attended, unattended.

Who are they going to blame on your job? Oh, Cho, exactly. Yep. That's not your responsibility. Damn. Do your responsibility. Ocho, today y'all gave up, y'all, y'all gave up damn to 300 yards rushing and 300 yards passing.

Hey, Unc, that wasn't necessary. We know that part. You didn't have to bring that up. We know that. 37 for 283? Did y'all pinch them? Did y'all trip somebody? I know, I know.

I'm upset, too. Stop all that running in the hall. They got a hall. They don't get no hall pass. You didn't have a hall pass. You know you have to get a pass to be in the hall. They're in your house and then you got no hall pass. They're just running.

Y'all ain't tripping. Y'all ain't pinch them. Y'all ain't do nothing. We're going to be all right, though. We're going to be all right now. No, you're not. I told you this. I say by the time Joe Burrow is healthy enough to come back,

y'all might as well leave it. Yeah. You might as well leave him where he is. Hey, you know we're on the bye week, huh? Y'all probably give up 40 on that one. I bet y'all give up 40 points in the buy. Hey, hey, well, that hurt, boy. Hey, that, boy, watching that game today, where that hurt.

To be able to come back like that, the scored amount of points you did, the way, the scored amount of points we did in the short time span, down 14, come back, oh, you know what, we got this one sealed up, and here we go. three people, three people surrounding a rookie tide and nobody brings them down. Because everybody's trying to go for the big head.

Get him on the ground. Hey, the rule of thumb is on Cho lived to see another day. Yeah. That's all. Yeah. Damn. To see another day.

Hey, but that's, I don't even know what to say. I mean, Tyler, uh, Bajette, he completed the past. DJ Moore completed the past I mean

even cold combat tried to throw one I mean how many people that I mean think about that chap for just a second they allow four people to attempt the pass

in an NFL game not Pop Warner not college not high not intramural in college in an NFL game yeah with the NFL logo

They allow tidings and receivers to throw a pass against the Bengals. It's embarrassing, Ocho. Listen, it's embarrassing, it is. It is. There's not much I can do it. I've done all I can to try to do it. You can't do nothing.

I know. And I've done all I can to try to defend it. I can't even defend it at this point. It's trash. It's trash. What we're displaying, what we're putting out there is the players aren't playing well. And it makes Zach Taylor look bad.

It makes the defense of the coaches look bad because there's no way in hell. Did you practice all week? Well, did you do anything defensively? Offensively, they show up every goddamn week. I mean, C.J. Gardner-Jolson, get off his couch and come get a sat. The man, he got to, he came in and just off the couch. Sat.

Damn. Yeah, it's, I'm numb to it at this point, man. Don't be none Hey listen Last year round this time Last year round this time Two back-to-back losses like this I would have been on the show in tears man

I can't even cry anymore I'm all I'm all I'm all cried out I can't I can't cry I can't even cry no more I can't even get that Okay Lisa Lisa Lisa and cold jam all cried out Yeah I am I am What should know by that I uh

You ain't cried Hey what you know about Lisa Lisa Lisa and cold jam What you know about that That's my era You beat what I do about it. That's that jam, man. I mean, Ocho, the fact of the matter is, and I know, look, defensively, you had the situation,

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They had 576 total yards and 11 drives. Y'all had three turnovers, two interceptions. Y'all have special teams touchdown. How many? They only scored three points on. So your defense did do something. They only held them to three points after the turnovers. Yeah.

I mean, hey. Oh, yeah. We don't count that pick, that pick. So they had two turnovers. So we ain't going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to. We had to, but still, you don't, you don't want them. You can't. You can't.

Ocho. Hey, who, huh? In the red zone, they were four or six, you were two for four. Two for four, yeah. Damn. Kick and field goes in the red zone? Get your beat. Get your ass kicked.

Get your ass. Scoring touchdowns in the red zone, you kick somebody else's ass. Yeah. Damn. Don't cuss. Call Gus. Oh, I, I, uh, I feel good. I mean, I feel good.

I know you do. I know you feel good. Listen, there's not much I can do. I knew that I shouldn't. Yeah, they're not. So good. So good. I got you.

Yeah. Hey, it is what it is at this point, man. This is the Broncos world. And it wouldn't be nothing. The Beatles didn't suck. It's all good. What do you mean? It's all good, don't you?

Our offense is better than y'all's. Ocho Whoa Whoa That's what we doing now Yeah I'm just saying What's our record

Oh look Our record is 7 and 2 What's your record Shit we're 3 and 6 now Huh Three and six Wow It's all good

It ain't looking good for y'all I know I know it's not You know good It's all good It's all good We'll be ready next year. Yeah. I told you.

I'm preparing for next year. I told you. I say the Bing, I say y'all going to lose to the Jets and y'all going to lose to the Bears. Yeah. Are you? I just wanted to tell me,

hey, chat, do y'all know what happened to Brother Browning? You know Brother Browning? Yeah. What happened to him? You're right there on the bench? Hmm. Yeah, you see, you see Flacco Dilling each week, though. I don't care about that.

I don't care about the most stats. Hey, it is, you know, like my hat? This is a, I think, Hispanic Heritage Month for the NFL. I'll be giving this hat away. See, I signed it. 84, HOF, three-time Super Bowl champ. I don't know anybody want that. Whoa, I guarantee you don't nobody want no Bengals merch.

Yeah, if my name on it, they do. They don't want no Bingal's merch. This is the thing. Hold on. Stay with me real quick. As bad as we plan, right? As bad as we plan. Defensively, however it is, whatever it may be.

Like that A5, that A5, any memorabilia, hats, jerseys is still a great representation of that organization, whether they win or whether they're losing. Do you know what the number one selling thing is in Cincinnati right now? Ocho. Brown paper bags. Because don't nobody want to know that they're a bigel fan. They put bags over the head.

That's the number one selling thing in Cincinnati. Wait, wait a minute. No, no, no, no. Not with, no, no. It's not with the offense playing as well as it is. You're losing. Hey, chat, you hear? You see how he separate?

You see the difference. I don't have a choice, but it's separated. I ain't got no choice. So what did you do? So let me ask your question. Y'all scored 42 points. Y'all was two or four in the red zone. So what happened?

of those other two possessions. And every time we come on here, we talk about the bangles, I say, what's the problem that we always have? What has always been our Achilles Hill? It's been our defense. If we score 50, the other team score 55. If we score 60, the other team score 70. How did you get that 50, though?

So let me ask you a question. When you're in the red zone, you score 50. If you scored a two more, if you score two more, if you score two touchdown on that, now you got 60. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, the other team gets paid too. Every time you get to the goddamn real. You should have scored in the red zone. I mean, you should go, kick it field.

And remember Chicago, Mr. Field, go bad. Bad. You didn't hear me, though. Every time you get to the red zone, you know it because it's that much more difficult to score once you get down there. Why would it be so difficult when y'all got a high-powered offense? You got Chase. Y'all got Higgins. Wait a minute.

You got ICE. Y'all got Norfolk. Y'all got Chase Brown. Y'all got Flacko wheeling and dealing. Why would it be so difficult to score? I'm going to tell you why. I'm going to tell you, we wheel and deal in the open field. When you get down in the red zone, there's not that much room as though it's only.

so much you can do, it becomes that much more difficult to score in the red zone. You know that once you go inside the 20, oh, it gets tough. You understand that. I don't want to hear nothing about no labor pains. Okay, it's cool. Deliver me a healthy, baby. I'm going to rub your head, baby, tell you everything's going to be okay. You're doing amazing.

I got this range rover lined up for you. You got a Birken bag coming. Just bring me a healthy shannon. That's all. Okay. I don't want to hear nothing about what you're talking about. It's all good. Listen, I'm like a chick in a relationship.

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Score of 38 to 14. Sam Darnel was damn near flawless, 21 of 24, 330 yards, four touchdowns, one in a reception. He was not sacked. Ah, man, that Jackson Smith and Jigba, it won't be long. It won't be long before we're talking about, hey, if you say Chase and gentlemen, or one A and one B, he damn, he won C. Oh, yeah, absolutely, absolutely. With the way he's performing this season,

he's definitely in that conversation. Can I tell you something? I just want to throw a little tear bit out there. You notice all the players, all the players that came on down to the wide receiver workshop, you know, in July, you notice they having one hell of a season. They got damn JSC cut up the day.

He ate for 129, six consecutive games with 100 yards, I think he might be the next receiver to go get $300. He can get $300 the game. If this game would have been close. Yeah. Oh, he's going to get, he'd had two in this game. Oh, absolutely.

If the game's close. Absolutely. The Seahawks moved to 6 and 2, Washington Falls to 3 and 6, and we're going to get into the ball game, but I got one question that I want to ask DQ Dan Quinn. Why in the hell was with Jane Daniels in the game? You're down 38 to 7. Right.

This is why you remove your start, especially, you can't remove all of them. Right. Some of your offensive linemen and some of the guys are going to have to play. They got to stay. But you get Jane Daniels' ass out of there. He's been Nick all year. Why was he in the game? So you actually think you're going to score 31 points.

No. In eight and a half minutes? Absolutely not. That was not a hip-drop tackle. He was getting spun down and he tried to brace himself. And that's normally what happened. You see a lot of that happen when a guy, if you're going to, go back and remember the Heat Celtics game, Rondo tried to brace himself and he dislocated

his elbow. That happens a lot. Just because someone gets injured, that doesn't mean the play was illegal. That was not a hip-drop tackle. But I just got one question. I just need to know why in the hell was he in the game, down 31 with eight minutes to go in the ball game. That's all I need to know.

But the Seahawks look damn good. That's going to be a very tough division. The Rams look good. The Rams look good down there every week. The 49ers look good today on the road with Matt Jones filling in again for Brock Purdy. And Seattle, with the way that defense got out field and Sam Donald is dealing right now, man, the Cardinals notwithstanding. But as a division, I'm like, man, they look good. That division is tough.

Whoever comes out of that division, they will be battle tested. Oh, yeah. And you don't want to play them in the playoffs. But go ahead, watching this game. We're talking about Washington after we talk about Seattle. What did you like about what you saw from the Seahawks? Hey, listen, the Seahawks look good, huh? They look good.

They've done everything they can. And there's a reason they paid Sam Donald the way they paid him. I didn't know. Honestly, I didn't know. I was kind of skeptical. I know what Sam Donald did when it was Minnesota last year. But also what he had, the weapons he had with Addison, you know, goddamn Justin Jefferson

it was easy you put anybody back there and they would look like that but that goddamn Jayson uncle he surprised me this year he surprised me this year and Sam Dahlers goddamn dealing and again I've said it time and time again I'm like I'm curious I'm thinking to myself I'm scratching my head

I'm like well goddamn what the hell is going on Seattle they unloaded off everybody they let Gino Smith go they let Tyler Locker go they let D.K. Metcalfe go a player of his caliber a player of his talent that I see as a number one

top 10 in the NFL at that well okay but then I'm confused well who did they got to lean on who did they have to lean on and Lord have mercy J.S.N. been cutting up since week one. I'm talking about cutting up since week one if we were to talk about the top five receivers in the NFL today

Jayson's name. Jayeson's name is probably the first one you mentioned the first one you mentioned he's playing unbelievable crazy work. Man he's so quick I mean, he's sudden. Yes. I mean, you see him catch that, he caught what we call a basic cross.

Man, you see him explode out of that. I mean, he's about to get up out of there, Ocho. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, and the one Sam Darner hit the tight, oh, would he shook him at the line and hat? I was like, oh, my goodness. Oh, yeah, he's nice with it. And the funny thing about it. And the funny thing about J.S.N., he's not the fastest in the world.

He's not a, he's not like a Jemar Chase getting the ball in his hands, and he got that breakaway speed but he can he is so good he more quick than fast he's more quick than fast and he's so good at the line of scrimmage and being able to manipulate you know the route running to give the illusion he's doing one thing as opposed to the other and he knows how to set everything up he understands leverage he understands coverage and anytime they got one-on-one anytime they got one on you you get your late you get your silly ass up there you play bump and run you're gonna lose every time and he showed it that's why sam don't know trust him so much anytime they got one-on-one He checks up out of that.

He's going straight to J.S.N. Every time. Oh, yeah. J.S.N. is real deal. Now, they didn't run the ball as well as they were to like tonight. Right. But they got everything they wanted in the passing game. Sam Darner was not under the rest.

They couldn't pressure him. So they got everything that they wanted. You saw Horton. His first two catches were for touchdowns. You saw JSCN. He got a touchdown. Roy. I'm just trying to figure, guys, are y'all going to tackle anybody?

What's up? What's up with all this shoulder thumping? Yeah. Man, put somebody on the damn ground. Everybody trying to get a big hit. And what ends up happening is that when you hit him, you make him go off somebody else. Happening your game. Yeah.

All you got to have to do. The tight in the middle of the field? Yes. Just tackle him. Hold on. You know what? Then this is the problem. Let me tell you why everybody's scared to hit.

Let me tell you why. Because the goddamn rules, the rules have handicapped the defensive players. They scared to actually play football like we used to play. scared to hit people. Everything. Everything is a flag. You can't hit him. You can't hit that. Oh, this is target. I mean, like it's wrapped him up, I feel you. I understand you. But sometimes we don't wrap up. If you hit him hard enough without wrapping up, you know what they do? Most of the time, either they cough the ball up or they hit the goddamn ground. Now you got, now you got receivers, you got tight ends. They feel so comfortable catching the ball across the middle because there's

no threat and there's nothing to worry about anymore. There's nothing to worry about. You got receivers cross the middle unk hands on the hip one hand in the air because you can't hit him there's nothing to think about when we played you have to think about

what's to come once you catch the ball in the middle you already brace for it you ready for it now oh man I mean think about how many think about how many times

you've seen Bijan Robinson catching one hand pass Drake London had about three of them today in the Patriot game why because there are no consequences of repercussions at all when there were consequences

and repercussions See, that's the only way you can learn. The only way you can learn a lesson is there has to be consequences from your actions. Absolutely. Absolutely. Because without consequences, there are no lesson to be learned. Right. That being said, Washington, three and six, they got up to a shaky start.

Gary. Jay and Daniels, 16 and 22, 153, no touchdowns, one of the exceptions. They had 36 rush attempts, 157 yards. But you can't, you can't spot a team, you can't spot a team 28. 21? 28, 21. I don't know if you, see, you don't play Madden. you don't play madden once you score 21 21 points the game is over the game is over even in the

NFL we have a good defense like the Seattle Seahawks that game was over once they went up 21 zip it was a rap I knew at some point they were going to take their foot off the gas because it happens all the time coaches have some kind of goddamn pack where you're not going to run the goddamn score up hell you had 28 what it was 20 at the half right if I'm not mistaken right yeah 20 at the half and they ended the game with 38 yeah man listen they came off the pedal they started running the ball a little more. And, I mean, they could have put a 50 ball on if they wanted to. Mr. McDonald could have put a 50 ball on them if they wanted to.

What happens is, is that you get ahead and the points come so easy. Yeah. I mean, they fumble the ball in the next play. You're in the end zone. Yeah. And then, you know, you get a pick, and the next thing, you know, the guy goes 60 yards for a touchdown. So it's so easy.

Right. And it's like, well, damn. And then they just, and Washington really could, they were shooting themselves in the foot. illegal formation or procedure. They were just doing a lot of silly dumb stuff. And when a team is rolling like Sam Donald and the Eagles off, and excuse me, and the Seahawks offense was rolling,

the last thing that you want to do as the opposing offense is put your defense right back on the field. Ocho, I mean, they scored touchdown, they kick off, they pull it out, your defense right back on the field. Now, mind you, your defense just gave it up, just gave it up. And you don't want them right back out there. Turned the ball over on special teams You turned the ball over on offense

But look This game was a blowout from the jump The only thing now I just got to ask DQ And I'm sure the reporters are asking him Damn why was Jane Daniels in the game At that point in the game Right The game for all intents and purposes

Was over I know look don't give me that It's not over to the whistle blows You saw what Tom Brady The score was 28 to 3 at the half The score was not 38 to 7 with eight minutes to go. Right.

Jay and Daniels should not have been in that game. There is nothing to be game. What did you try to do, get him some cheap stats? Nah, hey, Mario, you're up. That's what should have happened. Right. The guy, he, hold on. He missed a couple of weeks.

Did he miss last week's game? Jayden. He missed last week's game. He just got back. Yeah. Hey, what, what do you think happened to him? It looked like he dislocated his elbow. Shit.

Because he's, oh, Cho, he's going down and he's trying to brace himself. So all that weight, plus being slung down, and you see, I dislocated mine. Yeah. And being like this, it bent back up the other. It's really, really painful. It's really, really painful. I do believe he'll come back. He can come back and play this week.

It's normally a two to four week injury. I was four, had to play with a brace. This is non-throwing, so he should be fine. The question is, how much pain can he endure and can you protect themselves? Right. And also, when you're getting tackled like that, I know when the hip tackle, I mean, players have to learn to be able to fall, learn how to fall with the pressure. You go with it.

You don't fight against it. You know, there's no need to brace in that instance. Just let your body go limp. just let your body go and just be free when you when you when you're in a relaxed state and you're not tensed up you will be fine it's it's it's there's somewhat of an art to it it's somewhat of an art to it it's hard for me to explain but as someone who played very recklessly despite despite my my small frame and small stature i never got hurt i understood how to fall and how to flow with tackles understanding you know the size difference and in god damn physics you know for

that matter. And I was like Gumby. I got hit. I got thrown around. I lost every battle. You know, I, you know, trying to challenge people. But I just, I never got injured because I understood how to fall and how to protect myself. The thing is, Ocho, he didn't want to get thrown on his shoulder because you got to realize they ain't got no shoulder strength. They don't really do nothing upper body. Up a body, yeah. Because they want fluidity. Yeah. They're throwing motion. So they can't be tight up here. So they're, you look at quarterbacks. Quarterbacks got narrowed shoulder. That's why they're good at golf.

Yeah. Because they don't have tight. We, I have to work, most people work out their shoulder because they want some up up there. But that's not what a quarterback does. A quarterback's won't, he won't fluidity. Yeah, you're right. So you can't be all, can't all be all tight up here. That's why a quarterback, oh, he, no, no, no, no, I don't want, give me, give me somebody that's shaped like a pair. That's what I won't. I don't, I don't want, I don't want, I don't know, no muscle picture. Shape like a what? If you're a quarterback. Shape like a what? A pair.

Look at quarterback and pitchers. Now you see who golf. When they go to celebrity golf tournament, you see who win, pitchers and quarterbacks. Right. A guy like a Steph Curry, basketball players, they don't really be lifting all this stuff up here. Right.

Because they won't fluidity. But most, I'm shocked that they left Jaydon Daniels in the game, down 31 points with eight minutes to go. What do you hope the game? Well, you know, he missed last week. You can, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Hold on, bro.

You better get him some reps in practice because you've got to realize you can't control a game. Right. They still try to tear his damn head off, yeah. In a game, in a practice, you can control it. They get close, you blow the whistle. He got a red jersey or a black jersey on, meaning he's off limits to be touched.

Right. But in an actual game, they're still going full speed, don't you? And most coaches, most coaches in that situation would have been. remove Jaden Daniels from the game. He should have been removed from the game. There was nothing. There was absolutely nothing. Nothing to gain.

Except what you got. Nothing to gain. To be gained. An injury. That's what could be gained and that's what you got. Dang. But Seattle looked good, man. That's going to be, hey, Seattle, with Seattle and the Rams, them quarterback,

the way their quarterback's playing. Hey, they did. And you got Puka got ding too. He got, he got slam on his shoulder. Yeah. You see, he left, I don't know if he came back in. but he and DeVante was dealing. Devante had, I think, another two touchdown game today.

See, that's back to back. They got guys that can play, hey, Matthew Stafford's playing as good, if not better than what he played in that Super Bowl year. Oh, Joe, your team, the Carolina Panthers. Hey, hey, hey, talk, talk. Rico Dowdle. Hey, give me the same energy.

A hundred and thirty yards, two touchdowns. A big run in the final minutes to set up Fitzgerald's last second 49-yard field goal. It's the second time this season that Fitzgerald, a rookie from Florida State, has made a game-winning field goal as time expired. Packers start tied in, Tucker Kraft, was carted off the field.

Many believe it was an ACL injury, but they'll wait to get results back tomorrow. The floor said it doesn't look good. It's going to be tough, but it's football. Other guys are going to have to step up. I was surprised. that when Cuba Hubbard came back that he got more carries

than Rico. Last week. Last week. Considering the stretch that Rico had put together, I don't think there's any doubt now. Rico Dowdle is the number one option. What?

And basically, if you're tired, tap your helmet and we'll send Chuber again. But other than that, you ain't bringing your ass out. They talked to it. They talked to coach about it in the media. Like, what are you doing? Boy, young bull got the hot hand.

Rico got the hot hand. Again, Hubbard last week, I think Hubbard, if I'm not mistaken, had more carries and whatnot, but boom, coach said, going forward, Rico is going to be the one that get the bulk of the carries. He got the bulk of the carries today. What do you do? 25 carries for 130 yards and two TDs. Stay with the person that has a hot hand.

I respect Hubbard. I like Hubbard. But right now, the office is flowing very, very smoothly through goddamn Rico Dado. You don't change it just because someone's. coming back off injury? Like I said, the thing is, is that the question you ask yourself, if the guy that comes in for the guy that's injured, and I know the injured guy is the starter,

but if the guy that comes in is running the ball better than the starter was before he got injured, that's his job now. It ain't that complicated. I think sometimes we make it, you go back, oh, a starter can lose his job because of injury. Yeah, the hell he can. You can lose your job if you're out sick. You lose your job sick and let somebody to come in and fill in for you

and do a better job to you what you was doing before you got sick. Hey. See what that person get that job. 25 for a buck, 32 touchdowns after what he did

to the Cowboys, after what he did the week before when he went over 200, man, stop. Not playing. Get that man the ball. Absolutely. Their defense did a job.

A hell of a job. Because, I mean, I mean, hey, I'm Green Bay's offense. Jacobs had 17 for 80s, they had 25 rushes, 104 yards. Joy Love had 26 and 373, 273, no touchdowns, one interception.

He was only sacked once. Bryce Young was 11 of 20, 102 yards. No touchdowns, an interception, was sacked once. But Rico was the difference. Yeah. Rico was the difference. Yeah.

Man. Yeah, Panthers. I told you, all we got to do, sometimes, listen, it ain't going to be pretty every week. No. Sometimes you got to win games like this. Sometimes you got to win games ugly.

Sometimes when you go to the corner store, you ain't got to put makeup on. You ain't got to be all dolled up. Put your body on. Put your house shoes on. You know? Sometimes you got to get it ugly sometime. This is one of them games. You get it ugly.

That's why you say you keep pounding. Keep pounding. It ain't going to be. pretty pretty every week. You ain't going to throw for 300, 400, 400? No. You know? You just got to win. That's it. You just got to find a way to win. You got to run through your running back, play

option after that. You got, you know, you got good receivers, McMillan, you got legit Leggett, excuse me. Hunter Winfro Jimmy Horn, but hey, they haven't even had a day or a game yet where they got all them boys involved, man. And where Bryce Shucker just did it like

like he a deal at the casino. That day is coming. That day is coming where everybody, everybody eat. You get a ball, you get a ball, you get a ball, you get a ball, you get. It's coming. We didn't need that in the day, though. Give it to your bell, cow. Riggat out of you hand a lap.

You keep pounding. Man, Joe, this does. Can you imagine what this does? You go to Green Bay and you get a win with this young football team. What? Coaches in there tell them, say, see, when we play our type of football, we can beat anybody. We can go anywhere and beat anybody.

We can play with anybody. We don't have to take a backseat to no one. At all. At all. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I don't want us. I'm talking about us. But listen, I'm, I'm a huge fan of this team. I don't want us to become one dimensional.

I don't want us to continuously rely on the running game. Because, you know, the teams are going to start doing, huh? Stopping it. They drop it down in the box. They drop a nine in the box. You know what? Well, we're going to make Bryce Young beat us with his arm. Can he do it?

Absolutely. Hell, he did it Alabama. He showed flashes of being able to do it in the NFL as well. So, I mean, hey, I'm excited. I'm excited for the boy. I'm sure we got a few Panther fans in the chat. I'm sure the city is happy. They're elated.

Coach, some of the pressures off of him, especially with the way the team is playing now. Bryce Young playing. very well. Shoot, he ain't on the hot seat. Ah, let's go. He pounded. Jaguio's defensive end, Trayvon Walker,

was disqualified in the third quarter after punching Raiders' offensive lineman Stone Forcet following the Raiders' field goal. He punched him? Walker through a violent punch that landed in the face mask of Stone, who was also penalized on the plate. The foul's offset, but Walker was the only player kicked out. Walker had

just had a surgical procedure on his wrist a month ago. Walker was penalized but not ejected for throwing a punch in 2024 game against the Vikings. The fine was $11,817 for a violent act deemed unnecessary. The Jaguars

won the game in overtime, 30 to 29, after the Raiders failed to convert a two-point conversion. Trevor Lawrence was 23 or 34. 220, no touchdown, one of a reception. They ran the ball 42 times

for 151 yards Gino Smith 29 to 39 284, 4 touchdowns 1 in a reception he was sacked twice Brock Bowers welcome back

broad catches buck 27 three touchdowns Ashton Genty had five catches 47 yards and a touchdown and it looked like

he had a guy open for the two-point conversion but the defensive end jumped up and he batted down yeah Devin White, 16 tackles, eight solo. Hey, you know what?

This is the one. I was able to see every game today except this one all the way out there in Vegas. I'm not sure. What do you call it? Where certain games, you can't get certain games in the area? Yeah. I was able to get every goddamn game except this one. Yeah.

Look, the Jags are five and three. So there's still, what, two games? behind indie. Right. I mean, it's probably, it's going to come down probably. You'll see how long C.J's out. CJ took a vicious hit. Yeah, I saw that.

I saw that. And that game ended up getting concussed and didn't come back, didn't come back in the game. But the Jags, you know, you have to be impressed with them. But I don't know what I'm going to get with the Jags. I see one week they go play great and they play beat Kansas City. And the next week they just go lay an egg. Yeah. So I just don't know the consistency in what I'm going to get.

Yeah. And, you know, it all starts with a quarterback, too, huh? Everything starts there. Yeah. If he plays well, he has to always be even killed. He has to always be even killed. Defense, you don't know what defense is going to show up either. That's always been a problem for them as well.

Letting up, some days, it looked like the goddamn 85 bells. Some days, ugh, it don't look good. And in the ball game, Ocho, we have a new NFL record for fields of the field. 68. I'm sorry. The record was 66. Yeah. By Justin Tucker in Detroit.

And then this kid, remember Ochoo, he kicked the 70 yard in the preseason. Willis, right? Is it Willis or Willis? No, little. Little. Okay. What's his first name? His last name is little, but he got a big-ass leg.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Hey, do you understand? But these guys, the distance, I mean, you know, you got. The Dallas kicker Aubrey, he got three kicks over 60 yards. Yeah, he's nice. You got the guy from Jacksonville, not Jacksonville, Tampa.

He kicked a 65 yard earlier this year. The distance in which these guys can drill the ball now is incredible. Yeah, see, not only is it incredible, I think you have to understand what people don't understand, how difficult it is to actually kick the ball. They narrowed the goalposts. Not only they narrowed the goalpost, the further out you go, the further out you go, the harder it, the harder it is to be accurate. The harder it is to be accurate with that much power and force

and kicking the ball and to be able to control it that far out and want us to go straight down the middle. Or hell, what if you're kicking off the left hash? What if you're kicking off the right half? Man, that's very difficult for that damn far out. So, I mean, that's huge. That's a huge, huge congrats to Young Bull, you know, in that NFL record, man, because 68, man.

Man, that thing would have been good for about 72, Ocho. It hit the back of the, hit the wall. O'F. That kicked to being good from 72. Yeah. Now, he drove it. I mean, he drove it, Ocho. I mean, it didn't, I mean, it didn't, you know,

they didn't get up high. But he knew he had to drive it in order to get the distance that he wanted. I mean, he hit it flush. He couldn't hit it better. If you put any air on that, it ain't, it won't get there. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. No.

I mean, Ocho, when I first got to the league, guy kick a 50 yard you're like oh my god oh yeah now 50 yard you expect got you're like it ain't no hope it's like lord please let it make this kick a 50 yard you're like you better make that yeah that ain't that ain't nothing now now 58 60 60 62 as routine now yes I just knew I thought the Cowboys kicker would be the first guy to kick a 70 all right I think he Because he got leg for the end, but it's going to have to be at the end of the half. Because they're not going to let you do it in the first court. There's got to be the end of the half and, you know, something like that, don't you.

And he's going to break it. He's going to break it. They're going to let him do it. They're definitely going to let him do it. They're going to come a situation where the Cowboys are playing, and they're going to allow over it to go from 68, 69, hell, maybe even 70. He's going to reset that record. Because he's in the best situation because he's indoors.

Yeah. He's indoors. and you see this record was broken in Vegas indoors. In doors, yeah. Tucker broke the record indoors. Yeah. Or somebody at Denver at, you know, at altitude where the ball travels for. So if it's going to be outside, it's probably, that now is that it's 68,

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