Club Shay Shay - Best of Offset, Godfrey, Lil Rel & Steve Stoute

Episode Date: April 21, 2024

Enjoy this recap of some of the best moments from March and prepare for more captivating conversations with Shannon Sharpe because you never know who’s going to stop by The Club… 00:00 - Offset on Joe Budden disrespecting Cardi B's new song & flipping $245K into $700M by investing in avatars on phone  17:22 - Kobe Bryant vs NYC gangster, balling at Rucker Park, guarding Allen Iverson & only watching Jordan tape at Steve Stoute's house 28:11 - Lil Rel’s beef with Katt Williams & says Katt’s jealous of Kevin Hart 45:03 - Eddie Murphy & Dave Chappelle aren’t top 4 comedians - Godfrey explains & hilariously impersonates Dave Chappelle #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Man, Joe just be... I don't like how... I rock with Joe. I done talked to him on some man to man, but I just feel like he'll kick it with you and then kind of dog you out to the world. Right. You know what I mean? Now, it'd be hard for him to do that because it's like the credits don't be matching.

Like the comparisons, the credits that he has don't be matching. Oh, okay. Okay. You know what I mean? Right. The credits that he got don't really really match into like the people he he be getting on ass but he do got a word and sometimes he say some things that that do make sense but i didn't like how he was trying to on females you know i mean

right like it's an evolution bro you shouldn't say that the the that is dead and then i don't want him to come for me either like because i didn't talk to him i ain't just down so i just feel like i just i disagree with your opinion with the female music right they doing their thing why why shit on it you know what i mean right but we good we good though yeah no problem i got no problem with nobody let me ask you this how do you the criticism that comes along with it how have you been able to develop thick skin because you know there's been some criticism i don't come from that though. Right.

So I'm saying like I didn't I didn't thank God like I blew up in 2013. Well, we were still we had to get on the flow. We had to sell CDs. We had to put posters up. I come from doing that shows for 5,000 to 10,000 chitlin circuit. Like I didn't come from damn. I blew up my song blew up on Instagram. I'm gonna let me check my comments. You know, I mean and I just feel like your core fan base, as long as you got that and you're successful, you're moving.

But, you know, you do see stuff and you go through stuff. I try to keep myself up out of that because it'll drive you crazy trying to prove to these people. Because once they see that they can get to you, they just keep going. Yeah, they do. It's like once soon they touch touch that nerve and you show they touch that nerve they touch it throughout your whole thing like i'll be seeing now like when people drop music right they like the next day it's like trolls on there saying how many streams they got in 24 hours when i come from your record growing because when your record

grows it establishes you more right because you can have a number one record for one week and then it drop off the charts completely and then that person who at 89 and they go to 69 and they go to 70 that mean they done been on the billboards for 12 weeks and they got up to top 20 top 10 and you had a number one and it fell right off the chart i come from development music like right where every my first my first songs ain't go top 10 on no billboard and i still was making my money and people love me and it it's it's i feel like it's taking away from the artist's creativity they ain't really because they're so focused on like damn what my number gonna be I don't be. I ain't even checking that. I feel like first week numbers is a way to downplay us to make us a less value in the game to like the big labels.

Social media. Social media. What role do you think social media? Because like you said, sometimes people say things on social media that they would never say to your face and sometimes people do things just to get other people in social media to click up with him like yeah you see what he said about such and such he said this by offset or he said this about this about that are you are you on social media like that or you just let it rock i mean i'm always. But I try not to bite the bait. You feel me?

Like, try not to bite the bait. Because as an artist, sometimes we... See, that's what I'm going to do. Sometimes I don't bite the bait. As a matter of fact, since you mentioned that, I'm going to get me some Tyler clothes. Yeah. Now that you told me that right there, see, don't bite the bait. I'm going to get me some Tyler clothes.

You can't bite the bait. Because once you bite the bait, and they might be saying it crazy. See, you bite the bait. And when you realize it, like, damn, if I'm so small, soon you bite the bait and they might be saying the craziest shit you bite the bait and if you when you realize it like damn if I'm so small soon you bite the bait

that motherfucker everywhere yeah soon you speak on something it just flooded everywhere it ain't got big but I ain't gonna lie

I'm a person too though sometimes it's super disrespectful shit I just got to say something because it be because sometimes it be like too disrespectful

like it's been times one time like they were doing some weird stuff with my kids you mad at me that much that you got to bring my kids and do like a fake little weird mean I don't play down Now that's when I speak on it when it's like my family like my kids You got some weird nasty shit with my kid like and it'd be fan bases that'll do that shit and it's like bro, come on, bro, like

You I gotta say something to that but most of the time i'm gonna ask i got good people around me too shannon so i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna hit i'm gonna hit my folks like hey bro and they'll be like don't say nothing they'll talk to me about it i ain't just jumping the gun though right because sometimes you'll just blow it up some people ain't even seen that and then next you know it's on every blog it's like i asked Savage about this about dating privately versus publicly and what's your thoughts on that if you could do it over again what are your thoughts on dating publicly versus dating privately? If I could do it again definitely privately just so not let me say not so public Mm-hmm. Definitely privately. Just so...

Let me say not so public. Not so public, yeah. Not so public because I like to show mine off. But at the same time, folk be in your business and people judge you like just too much. They be just too much into your world.

And it deteriorates a lot of things with that shit, man. It put a lot of pressure on folks and stuff like that. And everybody's not really supposed to see your imperfections or your professions. You know what I mean? That's supposed to be just like a household thing. So I would definitely more private. I read that also that you put the lean down. Yeah.

Why do you feel that was important? Was it bothering your health? I didn't have no health issues. It was bothering my relationships. You know what I mean? Yeah. My family. I hate that my mom would say,

just sometimes I don't feel like I'm talking to my son. Because that hurt. You know what I mean? You can't keep saying it so many times. And it wasn't her trying to like, but it was genuinely I could see it in her eyes when she said it. Or when I used to be right there, just how I like,

and just sit and I just catch my mama, I peep her like, just looking at me. And she'd try to look out. I knew I was disappointing my mama and disappointing my family. And it's the greatest thing I did, though, bro. I ain't gonna lie.

I got a clear mindset. I'm not, um... Because it have you, like, a little... aggravated a little bit. Let me ask you. Why do you think so many rappers partake in it? I mean... People got their own trauma. Sometimes it sometimes I never think it's a cool

thing like when people be like oh it was a cool thing to do I think you try something and you enjoy it it make you feel good and you keep doing it that's just me being a thousand as we wrap up hereset, how does Offset continue to evolve and move the bar? By being more creative, taking more risks. The risk, the reward. I got that tatted on me. No risk, no reward. Also studying the greats, man.

You got to study your history. You got to study your history. You got to study. Sometimes you got to. I hear a lot of people like, I don't watch nobody. Well, I watch greats because I want to see what they were doing to separate themselves and to keep growing. Because it's hard, especially in this time. People don't want to accept shit. So you got to force them to accept it.

That's why I just said, like when you said with the Beyonce situation, you're going to accept this. And we're going to go number one one and we're going to keep pushing this Brand and sometimes the risks come with a great reward. You can't be scared I feel like as an artist you're supposed to do that people look up to you because they can't do that in them in their lives They don't have the heart you inspire other people So if you do the same thing, you're only going to inspire the same amount of people I always want to grow my fan base. I always want to. And you've done it. You was on that big ass TV show, right? And you came and did your own thing and your shit

then grew. Bigger. Bigger. You've been a football star. You went through different levels and it's still, it's always room for being a bigger and a better brand and sometimes you go through heartbreaks or sometimes you go through tough times and the tough time will make you and you'll feel like damn what's gonna happen next investing what's what's some of the tips i mean what are some of the things that you know you're like man glad i got in on that damn i missed that opportunity so what as far as money because like you said you come into some money you get money you got money coming in and you're like it's not how much you make it's how much you keep exactly you can make 10 million but if you give 9.9 million 900,000 away as opposed to eight i got a million and i kept 900,000 so how how Offset go about delegating where the money goes?

I invested in the Faze Clan. I got real estate. And it's just, I can't say what it is at all. I can't say it. I have a big investment that's on your phone that deal with avatars. And I actually listened to my mama to this. So the dude was here in your phone that deal with avatars. Mm-hmm and uh, I Actually listen to my mom to this. So the dude was here in LA and Chinatown and he was working out of his his little apartment and she brought me to his apartment and then he needed like

245 thousand dollars and Now now I can show you article where it's like up to like 700 million But I don't never talk about you the first person I ever talk to about it. It's an avatar. But I'm not allowed to really speak on it. Well, you good. You're straight in. You sure you want to make music?

Yeah, I want to make music. I mean, you good. Later, though, see, what I learned is everybody's investments hit around mid-40s. Right. Like, look at Nas with Ring and all that. like even juicy J so I'm cool I know I got some up the river but as of right now I save a lot of money though I got a lot kids bro yeah you gotta say it's just best you know I got here I got kids still got them you don't have kids I got kids I've been there you already know I

know you know. And I got two daughters, too. Oh, you got two weddings coming. I got two daughters. Shit. I don't want to say. I ain't ready for them days. All them talks. I don't even want to talk about that.

So, obviously, the avatar we can't mention about. Let me ask you this. What have you learned about the, since you entered, what have you learned most about the music industry? Because I always hear it's cutthroat. They do you this. What have you learned about the since you entered? What have you learned most about the music industry? Because I always hear it's cutthroat. They do you bad. They put you on these deals where they take it all the money or you get it advanced and blah, blah, blah. So what have offset learned most about the business? Knowledge is key and you can't blame.

You can't blame the system because the system won't keep going. So what you got to do is like I did. You got to adjust to the system, the system gonna keep going so what you gotta do is like i did you gotta adjust to the system get to learning what what's what ask questions like i'm asking questions i don't want you before you give me the money i'm gonna ask you what you what i gotta give you yeah see because at first when i first came in the game well you got two million for me man running publish you got five million running not really reading the terms not really understanding and then your lawyer ain't going to tell you. Your lawyer going to tell you what you got to do.

But I feel like if you build with your lawyer, like I talk to my lawyer day to day when I'm asking questions. And he know, like, I'm going to ask this question and I need you to break it down into a way that I can understand. So I understand what I'm signing up to because I've been a dumb artist before. Just sign the shit, just get it because they get you with the money. You got to thank you. 20 years old. These folks like look you got a hot song let me give you uh two million dollars but then i'm gonna own you and

then you got five albums but then soon the album come out because most people don't know when your album come out you at an artist level like me man your first month they done made two three million but it ain't your cut it ain't it ain't your money and it's not counting to your recruitment but on the what they own that didn't recoup't your money and it's not counting to your recruitment but on what they own that then recouped the two three million and they still got you in three million dollar debt and quarterly counting it down and they still got to spend the money to get so but at the same time they're making an investment so you got to understand the business terms and understand that business these folks need to make the money right so they and they give you a lot of money but you also got to learn like okay cool what are my deliverables for this

money what's the time limit on this on the deliverables and then me i love my labor car work my labor capital records i work with i'm gonna go to the office i'm gonna sit down and politic if i got a complaint i'm not gonna try to be like an asshole about it i'm gonna try to get a way to to figure out the game how can I policy better how can I roll shoulder so this person can know cuz a lot of time we blame the label but we really gave them no type of information we just turn our album in like make this go and it don't work like this whole process to everything so did you learn do you have to learn the hard way these lessons yes had a lot of hard way for sure man like being trapped in deals

or being signed signed into one deal like not owning not on all my rights now but like not owning your rights to your music right all that it's like you control so help to help me out with this okay there's ownership there's masters, there's masters, and there's publishing. Are those the same thing? Wait, you said there's ownership. Let me ask you a question. So is publishing and masters, is that the same thing? No.

Or are they two different things? That's two different things. Okay, so you own the publishing. I own all my masters. You don't? Uh-uh. I own a percentage of my masters, but I don't own 100%. Are you going to try to get them?

Yeah, I'm trying to get them, but you got to, like I just said, you got to finish your deliverables. Okay. So, safe answer, you get signed. They sign you. $3 million. Five albums. But your album term might say you can't drop an album for nine to 12 months. So, if we do the math.

That's some years that's years four years four or five years maybe even six years because the average artist ain't just finna drop no album exactly on the nine months so it's still gonna be a stretch you're creating and then while that time while it's going on they still gotta spend the money into you so it's doubling down so it's like most artists you don't see no chick from the label but the one that you sign that's it that's it now publishing gonna go the publisher that's what publishing command they're gonna go see where all your music been licensed get all the licenses you can recoup through streams and all that but it'd be pennies to a dollar so it might so instead like for me my publishing i have

an admin deal where we are in agreement that you will go get my stuff. I'll give you a piece of it, but I'm not going to put it all in your hand and you can go grab everything and I get the crumbs because then I'm going to be left in the deal forever. So the purpose of that is to recoup and renew every time, every two, three years you renew it without having to drop a project. Because, you know, with catalog, I got a long catalog with Migos and my solo stuff. It recoups like i'm finna go re-up now right i'm finna re-up soon after this album so the streaming i because i've heard some people say streaming ain't no money then um i didn't talk to 21 savage savvy says yeah hey they cut me a check every month so

there got to be some money what's your take on what's your take on on streaming i get me a check every month. So they gotta be somebody what's your take on? What's your take on on streaming? I get cut a check to streaming is is It's it's not fair buddy like I know I've got a he he he did right like you get hot first You get a risk you go he went platinum before he was signed anything So he got his master's everything but that don't be be for, that's like, he like a 10%. He like a 10% of his situation. Okay. But I'm saying,

most artists, streaming ain't nothing but like a, to me, I'm going to say it's a hype thing because you get, you get sound stage money,

but like you might have all these big streams that ain't finna register to your, to the, that you ain't finna be getting no check like that all the time because that's that check is going to the label for signing you right so if you let's just say they own the rights they own the masters they own the

publishing so oh so in order for you to get that the billion stream for it to hit your pocket you need to own the publisher the catalog and all that other stuff yeah but it but it's two things with that, see. I don't wanna talk too political. All right, for instance, like, some folks that just be hard headed, you gotta get with them folks a little bit because they're still a machine. Like the label is still a machine. I never tell nobody to be just straight independent,

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I don't know how many people know this, through Friday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Right. I don't know how many people know this, but Kobe lived with you for six weeks. How old was he when he lived with you? How old was he? He was going into his second year. So he's about 18. Yeah. Yeah.

And you said, is it true that you signed kobe to a recording contract uh yeah i signed kobe to a recording contract so to do the math went just like this yeah i would hear this let me set up for this one when will smith made men in black and sold all these records the music business had changed where it was like you know it was again nas wu-tang and and and biggie and sort of mob deep it was that kind of you know much darker sound yes right compared to what he was doing right he was bright as bright can get right you're talking about will i'm talking about will right yeah yes okay so i'm like if guy, and he rapped over a sample, and it became super pop and successful, I'm like,

if we can do that, just maybe, but hold on. Shaq just did it. Shaq sold millions of records, man. Correct. People, like, he really did. It is not a fake thing. Right. Shaq had a successful recording music career.

And I'm like, if Shaq can do it Will Smith did it big Shaq just did it this kid Kobe people will love this guy I mean he went to the prom with Brandi there was a lot of energy around him and he actually had a rap group when I signed him he was in a group I mean you know Kobe God bless anyway he went solo soon after. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, Kobe did great. He was in the group, though. He was in the group, and he put in the work.

He came to my house. He lived at my house for six weeks. I lived in New Jersey. A very dear friend of mine, Charles Oakley, used to come out to Jersey and hang out with him, worked out with him a few times. And Kobe was, you know, we'd, in the morning, get up. I got him to go to this local gym. He would shoot a thousand shots. Then he would, he had these tapes. It was Michael Jordan going left, Michael Jordan going

right. So it was just, the tapes were split of Jordan moving left, Jordan moving right, Jordan guarding people moving left, Jordan moving right, Jordan guarding people going left, Jordan guarding people going right. And you'd watch it for hours. And then we would go to the studio and record. That was his routine every single day. I learned a lot of discipline,

the discipline from a young man. I thought I was, you know, I thought I was pretty disciplined and doing my thing. And I seen another level of it, uh, with him very, very special talent. I could, I could talk about him for, for hours because, um, during that period of time, when I got to know him, he wasn't really into having a lot of friends. A lot of people never got a chance to get deep in getting chance to get close to him because he was, he was closed off like that. And, um, for years, man, I, we, we,

we would, we would speak all the time. I mean, we became very, very close friends. Um, so obviously it was unfortunate. I took him to Rucker Park. He played in Rucker Park, man. And, uh, he wanted to play cause all these guys got to all these NBA guys go to Rucker Park. man. And he wanted to play because all these guys go out there, all these NBA guys go to Rucker Park. It's like, you know, you got to play in the Rucker. It's like a rite of passage. Yeah.

And we go out there and I gave him to my man. I didn't have a team. Irv Gotti grew up in my neighborhood. I let him play for Irv's Murder Inc. team at the time. And he goes out there and all the guys are there

and he starts putting on a all the guys are there and he starts putting on the show Shannon a show he loved it it starts to drizzle I'm like we got to close this game down I mean I'm not letting him play but he's not gonna let the game he's not gonna want to be the one to call it so he starts telling the basketball team how to play on wet surfaces. I'm like, we're not doing any of this. Because I already know this man gets hurt. It's on your watch.

It's on my watch. So we shut it down. But yeah, he put out, I forget, but he's got 30 points in 12 minutes or some crazy number and shit like that. So could you tell, because you said he's so disciplined, he's watching Jordan go left, watching Jordan go right jordan's garden left jordan's garden right and he's back in the studio recording did you knew did you know then with the level of discipline that an 18 year old kid had that he was going to be what he became oakley told me charles told me charles charles told me

immediately the similarities between him and Jordan with work ethic. He knew it immediately. He came in talking. I didn't know what the fuck he was talking about. I'm like, whatever. He said that. But the other thing he did was he asked me, and I had this guy who worked for me at the time. He's actually now, his name is Anton Marchand. He's actually a recruit for the Cleveland Cavaliers. He worked for me in worked for me at the time. He's actually now, his name is Anton Marchand.

He's actually a recruit for the Cleveland Cavaliers. He worked for me in the music business at the time. Kobe was going to guard Allen Iverson that year and he was very much respectful of Iverson's speed and all that.

And he said, go get, he wanted to get young guards from New York that could, you know, do their thing. Crossover and all that. We got him. Went to this indoor gym.

He lined 10 of them up. They came in from the three-point line. He stood at the foul line. And they would come in like an assembly line. And he would guard them, try to strip them, peg them to the hole, and then run back to the line before the next guy came. He never got on offense.

He ran that like an assembly line. Wow. He was just guarding he was guarding guys six foot fast as shit they get past them steal from them block it you know uh rub their shit against the backboard come back guard the next guy he was doing this over i couldn't believe that he was doing this no offense no nothing and it was like this level of discipline and in a tough guy tough like just a strong disciplined tough principle driven man we are one night

um to this bar and back then street guys would buy all of the crystalal. But let me tell you something. They're buying the Cristal because what they want is assuming, not because they are drinking all of it, if somebody comes in and you order Cristal, you got to check in. You got to check in. So I ordered a Cristal.

He's not even drinking. Kobe's not drinking at all back then. He was not drinking alcohol at that time. Guy says, I have to check in. There's a guy down at the bar or whatever. I'm like, I don't feel like doing it. He's like, man, fuck this. It's a good thing.

So I got the Cristal. No, I didn't get the Cristal. I didn't want to do it. I'm like, I'm not, fuck this. I'm not doing this. We go out to a diner like 2, 3 in the morning. And the same guy, street guy,

won't say his name, is sitting there and Cole is making jokes about his outfit. And he's being a little loud. I'm like, yeah, you gotta chill with that, bro. Yeah, he's not chilling with that, bro. He's loud.

The guy sends somebody over, yo, blah, blah, blah, I want to talk to you. I go outside. I'm like, yo, the young kid, he got the gun out. He's like, yo, he got the gun out. Yo, I'm like, yo, he's a young man. I'm trying to tell him. That's how, he didn't even know who he was. right so he didn't know what kobe bryant is i'm like he's a

young man thing he's cool whatever whatever kobe comes outside sees the gun i'm like go go back in he goes i'm not going nowhere wow he did this on 23rd and 9th Avenue. He did that. So what did the old boy say? At 18. The whole thing, it died. But he said he ain't going nowhere. I'm like, yo, he's just saying he don't know who you are.

I was already, it was already, the guy felt embarrassed. It wasn't like, it wasn't crazy. The guy felt embarrassed. He really wanted an apology for the embarrassment. Right. That was, because it was loud. Right. And I was giving him that. It's cool, man. It's fine. fine he didn't mean no disrespect he doesn't even know who you are man he's not even from here right when he hit the thing out when he said i

ain't going nowhere i'm like what kind of person is this i'm giving you the out right this is not your problem i'll deal with this problem right he don't want that this is our problem wow man i never told that story man so what i mean so you know that the kid is so desperate know that he's standing as they say now in business what what did he teach you you can run through walls man you believe it you could do anything there's nothing you can't do that you that if you believe in it that's what he taught me he never did he speak about the basketball aspect i understand he was there to do music but he did he talk to you about what he wanted to become in the hell yeah man he had no concern he manifested all of it but he really did the work he he knew that if you did all the work that ultimately it was going to happen he didn't even think about it he all his whole thing was

that everybody who has a talent always tapped out in doing the work i asked them one time we were at a we were at a um a restaurant and we're sitting there talking and i just and i always wanted to ask this question do what do you think about athletes that come from i would ask you this man athletes that come from two-parent households versus athletes that come from single-parent households so you got these guys who come from single-parent households versus athletes that come from single-parent households so you got these guys who come from single-parent households they're in a football field and their anger and the shit that they i'm doing this for my mother i ain't got no father whatever the circumstances are they bring in all that energy on the basketball court on the football field and they play with that level of rage yeah and he I said, how do you feel about them versus he goes,

you know, those guys are intimidating and they play with that rage and it works until they run into the real thing. Michael Jordan, me, magic Johnson, they run into that. And we got the same level of work ethic and rage but we have we come from a solid

foundation and that solid foundation that's the that's the thing that those guys can't beat he said that to me i was like all right wow like stop this because every some of us just work the ass off. Right. Like even just hearing Kat here, all the things he's been through and why he didn't do this and go here and do this. Yeah, because you and Kat had some back and forth. Y'all cool now? No, not really. But it's OK. It's OK, though. It's OK. We don't have to be. Right. Because his success is his success and my success is my success. What started it? to be right because his success is his success and my success is my success what started it well just think about it that wanda smith interview yeah the one the part nobody talks about is for no reason cat brings up me gerard and hannibal burris for no reason at all okay i

don't even know remember what the question was he just literally like you like you can't real right yeah they gonna make you can't, real real, yeah, they gonna make you a style, real real, but you ugly. I said, what the fuck I got to do with this?

So you was in there with, that's, yeah, that's the beginning of the interview. That's what made Wanda kind of start fucking with him. Now don't get me wrong, like, the whole Wanda back and forth with him is the funniest shit I've ever seen.

And Wanda wasn't always nice to all of us, to be quite honest with you. So it was very interesting that all this transpired. It was interesting. Especially those two. It's the craziest happenstance of all time. But that's what it was. Cat,

I don't know even what that meant. He said, they're going to make you a star, L' start a rail but you're ugly he said little rail gerard carl michael hannibal can't walk the mall in the land i forgot the mall uh linux linux and no woman would talk to them and to this day man i swear to god i ain't trying to start no i just don't understand i look i don't think i'm the finest in the world right but a short with a perm man you know you're gonna see this and respond i don't give a you know what i'm saying like like if we were both two regular niggas in the mouth right and he has the perm and right the mustache right and i walk in like this

with my regular shit who the fuck you think women gonna talk to i don't know real i don't know i ain't did it i ain't did it so that that's the that's the only irritating thing about that for me like other than that it's like cat brother if i'm an ugly nigga thank god because that's why nothing happened to me ain't nobody approached me ain't nobody asked me to do brother, if I'm an ugly nigga, thank God, because that's why nothing happened to me. Ain't nobody approached me. Ain't nobody asked me to do shit. I guess I'm an ugly, talented nigga. I'm okay with it. Man, real, God.

Real, why you come up here upset to come back? You know what? I didn't do anything. You asked about it, and I'm just saying, like, and look, all comics, you know, all of us, like, man, everybody's like, come on, man, you're going to go. But Cat did say that shit. It was just weird. I just, even when I'm talking about Jonathan Mays, it's like, who do, man, you're going to go. But Kat did say that shit. It was just weird. I just, even with him talking about Jonathan Mays,

it's like, who do Kat Williams think he look like? Like you're not an attractive person. You look fucking weird. Real, real. He does. How about you? Have you talked to Kat Williams? People dress like this nigga on Halloween, like him, not the characters. They don't dress as money.

They dress as Kat Williams. When the last time you saw can This crazy story right It was at the Emmys a couple shit So this is when we into it like we this happened. Yeah, okay. Y'all go y'all read it did videos is happening. Mm-hmm I just presented an award at the Indies. I go backstage, right, and Chappelle don't know me and this dude beefing. Right. Chappelle sees

me. Oh, Lil Rel. Oh, cat. You know Lil Rel, you know cat. Now we just staring at each other. Dave is like, what the fuck wrong with you two niggas, right? Y'all just look at each other. Ain't nobody say nothing. I'm balling my fist up.

You ever see the author of Mean? Yeah. I'm standing there. We ain't saying shit to each other. And he's holding his Emmy. He has his Emmy in his hand. That was the last time I saw it. Nothing happened.

He just walked away. Y'all ain't saying, hey, what's up, bro? It wasn't. Nigga, I was still fuming at that time it was like yo we about to like what the fuck about to happen back here because it's kyle morel yeah i'm a chicago too so it's like i mean we're about to do this oh my goodness you're about to turn the enemies into the source You about to turn the Emmys into the Sorcerer's. You once said that you believed Cat was jealous of you. Do you still feel that way?

Nah, I was just talking shit. I don't think he's jealous of me. I do think he's jealous of Kevin Hart. And it's so weird because he don't have to be. Like, brother, you are so fucking successful. Like, you're one of the most successful stand-up comedians we've ever seen you didn't have the hype machine honestly he's the benefit of bootleg dvds you remember that yeah every i'm just in chicago i've been being in chicago at the time everybody had that cat williams special in the end right and because you know bootleg helped comedy at that time right

because those people go buy tickets to see you right absolutely the bootleg man really was your damn he was your promoter yes they watch you at the crib and you will sell out all your shows and and cat benefited from that man and i think i think he's not even just stand up man like anytime you see him on screen oh yeah he just wanted me Emmy for Atlanta right he won that shit for Atlanta he every time you seen him on Wife and Kids like he was great on there yeah he was like you see him like even the school dance movie we know that's not a good movie right but only thing you watch is that clip you know what I mean it's brilliant and so like and I'm look let me say that I was just I'm talking we roast each other we comics

are what it is I don't give a fuck whatever you say about me at this I don't give a rat's ass oh but at the same time I do I really do wish that we could I'm not trying to sound like some old let's get along shit but like goddamn there's no reason why we can't do another Harlem Nights with all this great fucking town oh not even Harlem night but just a movie yeah that features everybody. You know what I mean? Harlem Nights was great. Man, Nick tried to do it with School Dance, but let's find a really good script,

some really dope shit, and fucking get all these powerhouses on fucking screen together. I'm sick of this shit. It doesn't make fucking sense. You know, it's not... To be honest with you, it's a bunch of old beasts so i'll say this right now cat look i'm just talking shit i ain't mad at you i can give a

rat's ass i respect the fuck out of you you want the greatest to ever do it even you talk shit about me after this i don't really give a fuck but i respect you and i respect all y'all so like i just think we all should figure out a way to like merge this shit up man like we all talk shit man but i don't think we should bring in our behind the scenes comedy mess right i don't know for i just call call these people right call ricky and tell ricky hey man ricky i don't like the way you was talking shit on the friday said about how that was supposed to be your role and just talk it out right call said as they said man i felt like that joke that really a joke that's not even a big fucking deal and they both do it totally differently and it's a joke

none of you need anymore right let's talk this shit out even with steve harvey talk this shit out man you know bernie we don't have to show bernie love by shitting on somebody else. Oh, real. Bernie's one of the greatest to ever fucking do it. One of the hugest influences ever in this game. He's one of the cats to me that always gonna represent a grown ass man in his fucking business. And I don't know if Bernie

would let this shit fly like this. Because he wasn't that type of dude. He wasn't gonna be, you know, even when Bernie talked about, they've been playing a clip about comics stealing jokes. Right. But he won't, that's,

that's real advice to this day. It's the reason why I don't go up to LA a lot. Right. You're going to steal your shit. Nigga. And so like, and I get it because most of the time people want to do what they think

is the hot thing to do. Right. If you're the hot thing, guess who they going, they going to mimic to make it because everybody want to do what they think is the hot thing to do, right? If you're the hot thing Guess who they go they go mimic and to make it because everybody want to make it right? That's what they people talk about all this other shit. I'm like no like people steal styles and dialect and all types of shit because they like what this person made it so you know how that's that's I just I love and let me give you some props too because any other comic that does this after this we realize i realize how mainstream you

are i don't know if you know that shit and you've only had us on here and so i think you know for the most part you know i told my story hopefully inspired somebody that's what we should be doing right telling our stories and promoting each other not even just in stand-up in movies or tv we have the yeah movies like the color purple dion cola comic is in color purple come on man that's crazy comic view View, Def Jam. It's in a reimagined movie. And Color Purple? Wow. That's crazy.

Yeah. And so we have all these things happening. You know, we got the Ava DuVernays and movies like Origin and fucking American Fiction. Man, I love every, I watch and I love everybody. And I don't know, like, cornball shit. I just love, I, shanna i love this shit you know i i've been your once again your show has kicked off outside that interview so many comics it's so many conversations happening and you know one of the things that people don't realize once again i was telling you earlier that everybody's journey is different correct you know i did hear cat say like know, he was talking about Kevin Hart.

Like, well, Kevin Hart, how many people you know come to L.A. with a movie and a sitcom and this and that? Well, unfortunately, I was watching that. I'm like, dang, Cat never, he don't know, he don't know about the festival circuit. Oh, he don't, he don't know. Jesus Christ. You know how Kevin gets deals like that you go to the just for laughs festival in Montreal which is one of the biggest comedy festivals in the world you know what happens at the Montreal Comedy Festival

you go up on stage have a great five to ten minutes and the next day you're meeting with studio execs that are actually there they were giving people deals at these festivals. That festival helped change my life. They still do that? Still do it. It's still the biggest. Like a lot of us go now and get awards from it now. I got an award as a breakout comedy star a couple years ago.

And I remember my speech, it was I teared up giving my speech. You know why? Because I sat in the back of that room ten years ago as a new face comic. It was like one day. I'm gonna be up there to get an award Yeah, I got my award and I stood I literally it was acting and I look I said I told the comics that a little Speech in there. Let's get the speech. I said in that last seat back there That last seat back there and watch these award show and spoke that up that I was going to be up there getting this one day.

You know, I'll say this once again. You don't know everybody's journey like that. Right. You don't. And I think people got to be okay with not understanding different parts of the game. Like, brother, the festival, a lot of people get. It was the time, the early 2000s. Man, they was giving out deals at the HBO Aspen Festival and the Just for Laughs Festival.

They was giving the cats like $500,000 and having like just money. I think Cat might have been one of the people that got one of those deals at one point. Whatever opportunities you get, that's on you what you do with it. Right. You can't judge nobody else how they took the ball and ran with it. Right. Yeah, so that's how i had to say that cat gave me some advice to this day that i've kept with me which is very

interesting it was weird when he gave it to me was that we was at the improv he raised he still do monday nights at the improv and i got on stage at a great set and someone cat said one of his homies said like yo cat want to you know say what's up to you and i'll go say what's up to him and he didn't really say hi nothing he just gave me this advice that's all it was i love man what's up i'm a big fan you know what about that don't let these burn you out i was like what don't let these burn you out what did you mean by that i don't know burn you out what did it mean by that i don't know but i took that advice and and it only it shows up in certain times right i think it shows up when my team wants me to do way more stuff and

i'm tired you know i mean or somebody's pushing me too much i'm like no i gotta i don't want to be burnt out i gotta i gotta have it together i think like you know i look at somebody like well you have to learn to say no you gotta not even just know or not right now you gotta learn to pace yourself it doesn't have to you know that strike the iron wise i think is could be a little scary at times because that means you're just gonna do whatever but like if you take yourself and just pace yourself because i look at somebody bernie max a great example who we saw really bern Bernie was working all the time. Yes. And, you know, sometimes,

you know, I think he might have a little fatigue because he'll come to L.A. You know, he didn't live in L.A. Right. So Bernie would come here and film and then literally go back to Chicago, which is crazy. Right?

You'll film here all week and then you fly back to Chicago just to be at your house. Like, that's a lot. And so I just wanted to make sure. Cash said that but then chris rock kind of said the same thing when we talked before and i've heard it from a bunch of veteran comics about pacing yourself and not burning you out burning yourself out but as excuse me as a young comic coming up in the game there's a fine line between getting out and doing enough says so people see you

so you get that big break and and not like like Cassie is not burning yourself out so where is that line well in the beginning it doesn't feel like a burnout because you grind you just need the stage you just wait right you get the stage in the stage time and that's what you do you know saying like you know like things I told you about D Ray had the sundays right when i first started he wants to get that was the hottest club in chicago and i wanted to go up every week and so he's like yo you want some stage time you got to help seat so i helped seat the people every sunday both shows i was seating people and i might be catching a lot of shit from comedians like damn how you gonna do that it's not degrading that's not that I'm like nah because I get a

chance to go up on the hottest stage every single week in front of the biggest crowd every single week right so I don't care how embarrassing it looks matter of fact it gives me a cheat code I know everybody does in here I know what this audience is gonna be I know what their energy is guys seated everybody in here and so you know it's one of those things where like you know i cared about the stage time really it's just getting those reps up and that was so important but then it's like learning all different aspects of the game which is why like you know i think it's very important and i definitely i have to say this is like everybody's journey is different nobody has the same journey right and which is why i i don't

like telling nobody else's story you know i'm saying everybody's journey is different which is why i think it's so beautiful about this time now and black comedy you know people don't realize that comedy is still kind of a new it's kind of the, a newer entertainment than almost like hip hop is. And so we just really seeing our consistent millionaires of black comedians. This is new. Like the deals that Kevin is getting, the stuff that Cat has done, stuff that Sid has done, stuff that Ricky's done with the radio. This is just, this is consistently still almost first generation of all this type of success. Right. And it's a bunch of people at the same time and so like you know I

I'm excited about like we just have all these things happen. We have fucking hit radio hosts We have cats who've been on several sitcoms. We had cats who still torn arenas everywhere selling out We had this cat who's like you know you look at kevin is selling underwear now he got everything you know yeah yeah it's like you know comics are selling shoes mike epps is buying his neighborhood right you know michael blackson's going back to like it's so much happening it's like yo like i hope sometimes if people could take time i know it's competitive what we do but take time to be like yo what yo we doing this shit you know we have a jamie foxx who won an oscar yeah a black stand-up comic and we think about

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getting yes is that current comedian says i can't name somebody from my generation because i'm with them with them right so if i said okay give me your your give me godfrey's four okay best comedian it's usually your four best or should be the people that you watch the most like you watch video on them the most and i got prior carlin red fox and paul mooney i watched him all the time and paul mooney oh my god i think paul mooney doesn't get the respect that he deserves you know because he wrote for richard prior he wrote a he wrote for living color right homie the clown that was paul mooney he wrote for even the chappelle show wow i love paul mooney i watch a lot of paul mooney okay and i wish paul mooney were alive to come on

this show. He'd be like, Shannon, this is a very good show. You're brilliant. You're brilliant. You're brilliant. But niggas don't like you. Shannon Sharp, you're a big motherfucker. And you will kick a nigga's ass. You didn't put Pryor up there. I did. You put Pryor. Murphy.

That's who you left. No, Murphy. I think Eddie Murphy. Of course, he's a hero of mine. One of the greatest pride. Murphy. That's who you left. No, Murphy. I think Eddie Murphy. Oh, of course. He's a hero of mine. One of the greatest comedic actors. Nobody's fucking with Eddie Murphy on the comedy and movies. Right. You can match.

I mean, there's a lot of funny people, but Eddie Murphy is the best. I just, I don't think I've seen Eddie Murphy enough as far as specials and stuff. Okay. But Eddie is up there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You said top four. That's bullshit. You need top five.

Eddie, look what up there. Mount Rushmore. Who are your four heads you're going to put on Mount Rushmore? Well, those are presidents that should have had no business up there. Well, we got comedians up there. We're going to put the comedians up there. God damn it. All right.

I just gave you Red Fox. My Red Fox ain't bad. Thank you very much. I really like your show. It's very good. I watch it all the time. How you doing, sir? Anyway, this is Red Fox and I'm very happy to be on Club Shay Shay. You got a lot of niggas got a podcast. You got you like you like George Carlin. What is it about George? What is it about Carlin? His wordplay. It's his wordplay. It's his it's his intelligence and how he puts words together and listen everybody has a taste and carlin was never lazy with a joke he always because he grew up his parents were advertising people his mom and dad were good with words and he was always is his joke writing it's

just the wordplay he loved using different words and so i was like that's made me focus on words because comedy is an art form of words syntax it's about how you say it some people some I see some jokes and like even for myself I'm hard on myself if I see a joke and it's too lazy I go it could be better than that right and I watch Carl and I go damn even if the joke wasn't that funny to you but the work he put in it you go god damn that was brilliant you know what i mean it's like uh it's his word play and the things that he says about society calling out white supremacy a white guy saying it to white people is very important yes an irish guy from harlem

it's important that this white guy is saying you know y'all ain't shit you feel me has someone have you ever heard a joke yeah and you like i could have done that joke better yes and then there's some jokes where i go damn he got that that's the best or she got that that was the best take i've seen i've seen somewhere i could damn i could have done that better damn i wish i had that joke that was perfect yeah of course a lot of many times you do so can can you do Chappelle? Yeah. See, I'm going to tell you something, man.

This is great. This is great. I love being on Club Shay Shay, bitch. Man, I love it. He's like, Chappelle I've known since 97, 96, 97. And Chappelle is one of the greatest. But everybody does a Chappelle. So you have to sort of talk like this.

Right. And now his voice is a little, you know, I'm listening. I'm not transphobic. I'm not, I have friends. I have friends. I have a lot of trans friends.

And you remember when he got, um, he got, uh, I guess they blocked his show in Minnesota. Right. And at theater, they were like the trans community came,

they blocked his show. And then he went to another theater about 20 minutes later and sold that out right he's like i i'm trans i feel i'm trans because i transferred from one theater to another and that was a great transaction bitch i hear when i hear people talk about him yes it's like there's like he was a prodigy he started at a very very young 14 like but a lot of comedians don't start until they're in the later 20s mid-20s yeah i started after college 22 so here's a guy that's 14 and they're saying he's going to these clubs where adults perform yeah and so you knew him did you know he was going to become this no i didn't i heard about him well actually when i first got to new york city one of my first

shows what was with him on the show it was with him on the show and he was i heard his name dave chapelle dave chapelle because he did uh he had done uh star search yes um young and even ed mcmahon said that guy's gonna be a star watch. Watch. People don't remember Star Search. Ed McMahon. Before American Idol, it was Star Search. Four stars. Three stars. Simbad came from there. Martin Lawrence. A lot of people that are stars came from there.

I heard about him. Then I ended up on a show with him. I think I had to go after him. He murdered. I had to go after him. I heard about him and I knew, okay, this guy is something to watch. Because everybody, Chappelle, Chappelle, Chappelle. And I guess a guy, I want to give credit to Tony Woods, who Chappelle, he took Chappelle under his wing in D.C. Tony Woods is another underrated comedian who's fantastic.

Yeah, so Chappelle, I knew Chappelle was going to be. I didn't know how big until that Chappelle show. I didn't know he was going to be like, woo, he's massive. I mean, because you see him in Another Professor, he's reggie. Killed that shit. And then you see him in Blue Street. Yeah. And you're like, man, dude, he's amazing.

And his comedy, he's an amazing comedian because he loves, I think he loves comedy more than anything. I believe so. Because he puts the time in. He puts the hours in. Yeah. And I'm going to tell you this. I think you had a guest on here that I disagreed with. OK, no. And this is no, you know, you know, I would love to start beef because I want this to go to 60 million. I want to call somebody out. I just want to fucking start some shit. But I won't do that. You know what I'm saying? Damn. I just want to fucking start some shit, but I won't do that.

You know what I'm saying? Damn. But when Country Wayne was on here, first of all, I don't know Country Wayne at all. But I watched his video. I give him his credit for him making all that money. I was listening to him like, oh, how did you do this? You know, I love his hustle. Smart dude.

I mean, he's making millions off of this shit. I wish I could. But he said one statement that I disagreed with, country. I disagreed with you. What was the statement? I think he said, and if I'm wrong, you correct me. Okay. He said something about if anybody's in a comedy club still,

that means you're not doing anything. Something like that. To that, I don't know if he was answering Faison. Right. I think it was him and Faison going at it. Okay. Because Faison's my dude. Right. Faison.

Faison. Everybody be going at Faison. I love i love fazon goes to everybody else he's funny fazon's a funny son of a bitch but he's saying if you're still in the comedy clubs right you're not a real comedian i think he said that am i wrong something to that effect and i go i think he was talking about him okay please because i was like you are wrong right about that shit. I'm in the comedy clubs. DL's in the comedy clubs. Comedy clubs are still being built. They're not fading away. If you do theaters, that's like a blessing.

But theaters are multi-purpose rooms. Comedy clubs usually are just for comedy. Comedians of all statures do comedy clubs. There's the rare moments you have. Chappelle still comes to comedy clubs and works on his shit. Seinfeld, who's a billionaire, still comes to the comedy clubs there's the rare moments you have this you know chapelle still comes to comedy clubs and works on his shit right seinfeld who's a billionaire still comes to the comedy but i think what he was what i'm just saying yeah i might be i might be misinterpreting what he was saying is that that's his only choice is to do those the people that you mentioned can do arenas they can do theaters yeah he's saying that he probably the only thing he can do okay is i'm like shit all right so what does that make me because it's not easy first of all it's

not easy to fill a comedy club even if it's a 300 seater 400 it's not easy right like there's people who have been fortunate especially with the algorithm you get the algorithm you got eight million followers yeah just numerically you going to fill the shit up. Right. But are you going to put the work in and you're going to have the performance that keeps up with it? To match it. To match it, which comedy, I'm going to tell you this,

and even Cat said it, you can't cheat comedy, man. I'm telling you. When I first got to New York, you know how many shows I was doing per week? 40 shows a week 40 You heard what I said 40 dog. Give me some cognac Hello, we get that cognac. Come on, man. Get that cognac shit. Hello. Got that shit. Oh, yeah

There's only a little God for it. There's only seven days. Yeah. Hmm. So you You do it now. Yeah yeah so you you doing that how y'all yeah yeah how are you doing 40 shows in a week let me show you so when i got to new york city i remember it was a tracy morgan and some other cats and they were like y'all i said hey because in chicago we would do you give them out six or seven shows a week yeah what are they and i got i got to new york i did a show with i was in harlem i did one show they was like yo we about to go i said we all going now oh there's shows in brooklyn are you coming you got more shows hell yeah boom i hit about five stages that same night and i said said, this is how you do it. It's like, hey, oh, yeah, we do multiple. The average comedian in New York.

And I don't know if this is perfect math does about between four to seven shows a night stage time. We got a lot of stages. We got a lot. Shout out to the comedy seller. That's my spot. Comedy seller in New York City. But I was doing five shows a night. Wow. Five shows a night on the weekdays. Then on the weekends, I'd do eight or nine. Eight or nine shows. Yeah.

It would be me, Patrice O'Neal, Bill Burr, Keith Robinson. It was all of us. Wanda Sykes. Wanda Sykes Hall. When I knew Wanda Sykes Hall. That's my girl. Yeah. Wanda's the best. But I knew Wanda Sykes Hall. That's my girl. Yeah, Wanda's the best.

But that's how you did it. You just ran all over the city. And sometimes there would be a club down the block. So you can go on stage there. You go over there and hit that. Yeah, so I would start at about 7 a.m. At 7 p.m. and then end at around 3 a.m. So I was doing comedy.

And this is consistent. There's no breaks. This is consistent shit. Comedy takes that much work. It's really a sport. It's a sport. You got to go out there and you got to put the reps in period. You can't cheat it. I don't give a fuck who you are. You can't cheat it. Is that how you get good at the craft? You goddamn right. And then you, and you know, what's funny is when you're on stage, they see the difference. They see the difference. They see the wordplay. They see the transition.

You get those nuances as you stay on stage a lot. You have to. I don't know. Somebody told me it was a young commentator. No. One day they're going to be able to skip steps in comedy. I said, just because you get on a TV show faster than a veteran don't mean you're good at it because i'm not trying to be an asshole but a lot of these companies are skipping a lot of comedians that are ready there's a lot of because people ask me where you getting your next go on netflix but i said they don't really approach me they don't really approach a lot not just me but they don't approach a lot of us they they've been giving specials to people that don't even have an hour you can tell somebody ain't

ready by the way they edit it you You go, oh, that motherfucker started bombing at 15 minutes. That motherfucker started bombing at 20. They're not, because comedy takes, yeah, you have to be ready. You have to put your time in. And the people that are ready are like, hey, I'm ready for a special. They're not. That's why a lot of people are putting their shit up on, I'm sorry, YouTube. Example, Ali Sadiq. If you ain't't watched domino effect you're out of your damn mind domino effect one two and three he just put

three he's all on it's all on youtube right it's all on youtube this guy has been ignored he had a chance he's been ignored but he's putting it you're counting on yourself you got andrew schultz there's shane gillis there's a whole bunch of guys putting shit up on youtube that's what i'm gonna have to do oh and by the way shannon i'm starting a gofundme yeah that's right i'm starting to go fund me to raise money to do my own special yes man i'm not gonna wish what why am i bull jiving i'm not bull i'm raising my listen go fund me go to go fund me godfrey special i'm raising money. Listen, GoFundMe. Go to GoFundMe Godfrey special. I'm raising money. For real.

I'm taking donations. No different than a church and a preacher. I'm taking donations. Because Jesus wants it. But yeah, I'm raising my own money. I've been offered some money. Because listen, to do a special, it's a big, it's budget. You can go from $100,000 to $200,000.

It depends. Right. Netflix pays for all that. Right. Amazon pays for all that. But if they're not coming to me and coming to some of the other people, I got to raise money on my own. I got to put it up. And then it'll be mine and I can own it.

You know what I'm saying? Right. I don't know. But so that's what's going on. There's a lot of comedians, men and women, that are being ignored. I got, you got great comedians like Yamanika Sanders. You got Marina Franklin. You got a lot of great people. My man, Dante Nero. You got Ruben Paul. You got a lot of great comedians. Tony Rock.

You got a lot of great comedians that are really putting in the work and are ready to do one, two, three. Let's go. I mean, listen, they give a special to the same people every time i see the same people which some of them do deserve it i go yeah i get why but man there's a lot of people just waiting on their first one and then they're giving it to people who have been doing comedy two years bullshit it's bullshit how has it's hurt it hurt comedy as far as there i believe this is my i believe there's a lot of bums in comedy a lot of mediocre bums in comedy because of social media because they're seeing okay i had a friend call me the other day i haven't seen him since college he was like a more of a business guy corporate and when i started saying number since college no not call me sorry

facebook me okay that shit okay right no he actually called me because i i had given my number a few years ago then he goes yo um i want i need to call you i need to talk to you i was like i don't want to talk to me about what you know and? And I know what he does. He's a corporate guy. So when I was doing my comedy, being broke and shit, he goes, how's that little comedy thing you're doing? Oh, little. Yes. Little.

They would say that. How's that little comedy thing? I say, man, I'm just doing it, man. Come to a show. They would never come. Right. Boom. Those are the kind of guys that go see the more famous guys.

Yes. But won't come to your shit? Yes. I said, cool. So now, years later, he goes, yo, you know, I've been writing, like, comedy, this, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. You know, I was thinking about it. And I said, why? What are you, for what?

Why are you thinking about comedy? Are you a corporate guy? I mean, ain't you a JP Morgan? Ain't you a? Word. Yeah. We're older now. Why are you thinking about comedy?

I said in my head, he's been watching social media. He goes, well, I've been watching a lot of video so now you think it's easy ah that's the only thing i think social media has done is they make it look like it's fucking easy youtube tutorials that's like this hi welcome how to be a tight end it's so easy how to be the tight end really it's the same you can know you gotta show up to practice and you gotta put the fucking reps in i'm promising you because when i first started doing comedy i was funny i was fun it was me it was cory hokum who's another funny crazy bastard cory hokum yeah cory hokum who i brought into the game by the way way. You guys can thank me for Corey Holcomb because I brought him to Amateur Night.

I brought him to Amateur Night, made him do comedy because I've known him since I was a teenager. And he's always been a very, very, very funny man. Yeah, you've got to put in the reps. And we were all funny at the beginning. D-Ray Davis was all funny. We didn't have the jokes yet. You know, we didn't have nothing to say, but we had funny quips here and there. Right. It takes years to get your voice in comedy. It's 10 years, 10 years. I'm going to fuck. Here's here's an example. I was sitting with

Seinfeld. Yes, I said it. I was sitting with Seinfeld. He was doing a documentary called Comedian. I'm in that documentary. This is when he was making his comeback after Seinfeld. He was coming back to comedy. So he would come to the comedy cellar and hang out with me and hang out with all of us. And one day he asked me, how long you been doing comedy? I said, and I stuck my chest out. I said, nah, about nine years now, going on 10. He's like, okay, you're a nine-year-old in comedy then.

That's your comedy age. Always remember that. That's your age in comedy. I never forgot that. My age in comedy is about 27 years now. Yeah, I've been doing it almost 30 years. You know what I mean? And I see why it takes so long.

Because it's effortless for me now. But I still see the difficulty in it. Because I can do one hour. Now I got to do a whole different hour. When you see Chris Rock, Chris Rock is a technician. He'll in come in in the comedy club work on his shit work on his shit seinfeld does the same shit ray romano still comes in these guys are multi-millionaires but because it's a craft because the comedy is always better than you i always comedy is always better than you because you always gotta redo something you always got a story to tell you never if you get to

concede a lot and that's another thing about social media it's making these motherfuckers cocky they come around thinking because hey man i got 10 million followers i go but you got to follow me tonight wow shit we'll see what that shit does to you okay buddy but you know i know i'm glad that you have 10 million i'm glad you got your little sock puppet thing good for you but we're about to do the real shit and uh good luck following me but you know it takes and listen you know these these younger cats that come in they can't help when they were born they were born in the social media phase but i try to tell them dog doing a sketch is different than stand up please lord i'm telling you be careful because you're in a time continuum.

When you're on stage and people don't pay their money, they don't send their kids a babysitter. And motherfuckers are sitting there like this. All right, motherfucker. She is. Hundred dollars. The goddamn ticket, man. It better be. I mean, some high highs in this motherfucker.

Real shit. And so you got an hour. And what if the dude before you just did a hot 30 in front of you that the feature just smoked it now you gotta do your shit i'm like i'm it's a re it's it's the hardest form of entertainment comedy which gets no respect barely wins awards comedy is the hardest you know why you know why people heckle you know why people heckle shannon right because everybody has a sense of humor you make somebody laugh people over here make somebody laugh you was funny at the barbecue you was funny at the water cooler right everybody's funny right you

were even funny on the field you used to talk shit on the field i did you did a commercial i remember the commercial that you did you'd be like yo what you gonna do man it was a commercial so that's funny but people go okay well i make people laugh there's a man or a woman on stage making people laugh but i'm funny too so i'm not even gonna show you respect you go to the opera ain't nobody talking are they you go to the opera i go to the opera i'm i'm cultured you go to the opera figaro fig. And someone's like, man, sing that shit. And he'd be like, Nigaro, Nigaro. Yo, no. You're not going to say that because you don't have a sense of opera. You go to the ballet.

I've been to the ballet. Shit. I can go to that shit. You know? Nobody says, man, that girl flexible than a motherfucker. Right? Yo, why that dude balls out? Yo.

You know what I'm saying? Because you have a respect because it's something you can't do. But for some reason, comedy is that one art form where everybody feels they're your equal. Even the comedians have been doing it two years to think they're your equal. And I don't like it. I think comedy should be like the army. That's what I love about the armed forces. I'm a general you're a

fucking cadet you stand at attention when i walk in when i see george wallace i just saw i just did a show with arsenio hall by the way one of the nicest men i've ever met i've never met arsenio arsenio was a fucking legend what people don't understand yeah arsenio i went he goes and he goes godfrey man good seeing you brother i've been watching you you know how his finger i said godfrey i've been watching you yeah he's way back there when he pointed that he's like godfrey he goes i've been watching you since the pandemic and i said i gotta salute you you're a general man right you're a five star right we gotta i like rank and file has to happen it's like in the

rookie you know i you know i i walked on the team at illinois no did you i did i on a dare i did it because i i was doing trying to do track and field and i wasn't really sure and then this dude named marlon primus i'm saying his name marlon primus he came up with henry jones yeah so this dude was so talented he played our free he was our free safety okay six foot four could throw the ball a mile because sometimes we'd be on the field just fucking around practicing and so and he could throw the i said my god man you can throw he could punt i go how come you're not a quarterback he goes because in illinois they didn't want any black quarterbacks. They kept all the white. They converted all the black dudes into defensive guys.

Right. And he said, and he was from L.A., so he'd be like, yo, cuz. He's like, you should try out, cuz. I dare you. Try out. And so I tried out, and I made the team. Didn't start. I was the meat squad, but hell.

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