Club Shay Shay - Best of Shedeur Sanders Mania Part 1: Browns sign 5th QB ahead of Shedeur's preseason debut

Episode Date: August 13, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson break down the ultimate Shedeur Sanders storyline — from being disrespected by the Cleveland Browns and placed as the 4th-string QB in pra...ctice, to delivering an unforgettable NFL debut against the Carolina Panthers.   0:00 - Browns sign Tyler Huntley 12:56 - Do the Browns have faith in Shedeur? 22:18 - Shedeur Sanders announced as Preseason Week 1 starter   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 Doe Flacco. I told you. I told you. QBee one. Kenny Pickett. Two. Dylan Gabriel. Three.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Shradur Sanders. Five. Excuse me. Four. But they did bring in because two of the four quarterbacks are injured. Hamstring. Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel. And a few hours ago, this is what Adam Schepter tweeted.
Starting point is 00:01:58 The Browns are signing. Tyler Snoop Huntley, who spent part of last season with Cleveland, with Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel, nursing hamstring injuries, and Shadour Sanders having a sore shoulder, the Browns need another arm. Enter Huntley. Yes, sir. Talk to me. What are the Browns doing?
Starting point is 00:02:17 I don't know what they've done the last 35. Do they know? Are we sure they know what they're doing? Have they known what they've doing since that franchise has been established? Have they figured it out yet? Because the last good quarterback, no disrespect to the quarterbacks that have played for the Cleveland Brown, the last one that has been of decency has been Bernie Kozart, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, that's in mid-80s, though.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Mid-80s, though. Okay, well, there you go. There you go. That's no disrespect to any of the quarterbacks that have played there, but it is what it is. We talk about consistency. Have we had one for a decade that we've been able to lean one and build around? No. You had a couple of years, you got a couple of years of Baker, but outside of that. No. No disrespect. Come on, man. Come on, man. So how do we, that's the problem that you have,
Starting point is 00:03:06 how we support to trust this organization when it comes to choosing quarterbacks at a position when they haven't figured it out all these years? All of a sudden, now they got all the motherfuck, excuse me, now they got all the sense. They're supposed to have all the sense now. The death chart to me, I'm going to let you go. The death chart to me doesn't mean anything. We know what Joe Flackham would do when the lights come on. Can he picket had this opportunity when when he was drafted to the Steelers. So we've seen the sample side of that already. I mean, no disrespect to him.
Starting point is 00:03:34 He's not the answer. Dylan Gabriel has success at Oregon when the lights come on. But it's a different ball game in the NFL with them grown men that got miles to feed. Everyone should get an ample chance to win their starting position. We already know who quarterback one is going to be. We know who that's going to be. The debt chart doesn't mean anything. What they trying to do is they're trying to break Young Bull.
Starting point is 00:03:54 They're trying to break him, huh? That's all it is. From the draft process, they're getting drafted in the fifth round. to the owner coming out and saying what you said last week to now. Man, come on with that bull's right, man. I don't see how Kenny Pickett still remains number two. He hadn't practiced since the 26th of July, if I'm not mistaken. So he's been dealing with a hamstring injury.
Starting point is 00:04:19 But when you go out and sign somebody in free agency, I mean, I guess that does tell you they do think highly of him because they signed him. dealing Gabriel he's dealing with a hamstring I guess the worst thing that happened is that we could have found out because had both of those guys been injured we head into the first preseason game and only Flacco and Shador is healthy
Starting point is 00:04:45 now it remains to be seen how much Joe Flacco is going to play if he plays I'm thinking maybe a series Ocho that's top let's be generous and say a series now that was going to be Shadour opportunity to basically take us home. We saw Trey Lance. Trey Lance started the game and played what,
Starting point is 00:05:04 deep into the fourth quarter of hell he might have finished the game. With that being said, the worst thing that could possibly happen, happen for the Browns is that the two quarterbacks that you probably is counting on,
Starting point is 00:05:17 they both got hurt. Most definitely. And they got hurt early. Now, we'll see how soon it remains to be seen. And I think, I said last night, they played Thursday. They played Thursday Friday. Is it Friday?
Starting point is 00:05:31 Okay. Okay, they play Friday against the Panthers. Three more days. I'm excited. Is your door going to play? Yes, he doesn't have a choice. This is part of his resume. But if it showed it, but what if he had?
Starting point is 00:05:48 I mean, I mean, clearly they don't feel that confident because if they thought you doer was going to be able to go, where they have brought a, a fifth quarterback? Yeah, they had to bring, they had to bring somebody else in because Kenny Pickett's probably not going to play, especially with the Hampton injury. The game is fighting.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I don't think either one. I don't think two and three is going to play. So definitely, definitely he's going to play. Listen, the eye in the sky doesn't lie and they need to do her to put what he can on tape. They need to,
Starting point is 00:06:13 what are we going to get? What did we draft? All the work we put in, obviously going against offense and defense in practice, that don't mean nothing. Well, you don't expect to get, Ocho, how long you expect the $500 car to last? Think about where they drafted him now
Starting point is 00:06:29 Now clearly they ain't put a whole lot of resources behind it No So they're not Let's let's let up You know what we do here on nightcare Come on talk to me now Chat you know When you go by what we used to call
Starting point is 00:06:45 What I was growing up we call it secondhand When you go buy something secondhand And you spend $500 or you spend $1,000 And as is no warranty. You're not expecting my, okay, hopefully it gets me from point A to point B. They drafted Chador in the fifth round. They're not expecting much of Chador.
Starting point is 00:07:04 They didn't because if they thought that much of him, they'd have drafted him higher. If they thought that much of him, they would have given him a fair opportunity. But that's not what they've done. And I'm not, look, that's their organization. They run it how they see fit. But I don't know, in people in Cleveland,
Starting point is 00:07:23 I don't know how you would still have trust in this organization, considering how many quarterbacks, and every quarterback they say, oh, he's franchise, he's franchise. You said that with Derek Anderson, and you said that before him, and you said that after him. Baker got injured and you moved on from him. Now, Baker didn't have the weapons that he has in Tampa. I don't think Baker's like, oh, my God, hang on,
Starting point is 00:07:48 wish I could have stayed in Cleveland. The weather's a lot nicer in Tampa, and there's no state income. and he has a great support system around him. With all that being said, I don't think, I don't think it's much like, boy, maybe they bet against him.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Listen, it happens all the time. I don't want to, if I, if you do it, how does that make me look? If your doer looks well, Ocho? Wait, he can go to, he can, oh, excuse me, the adversity and the obstacles that young bullers had to over endure in general. he's been pre he's been pre prepped for this he's been prepped for this oh they're against me since he got drafted
Starting point is 00:08:31 when he dropped in the fifth round he already knew what time it was when your opportunity gets there when you get your opportunity you have no choice but to shine you have no choice they're betting against him not to do well right but if you want me to win the race also you got to put me on a fair brand like everybody else. You can't give me a Klisdell and say go win this race. Let me ask you this. When he is in the game,
Starting point is 00:08:58 is he going to get the first team offensive line? Uh-uh. Because that's what, when they want to give you a serious look, Ocho, you and I both play this game for a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:09:10 When they want to give a guy, when they want to give a receiver a serious look, they let him run with the ones. They don't contensely see what he can do with the twos and threes. They give him a fair opportunity with the ones, the number one quarterback, the number one offensive line,
Starting point is 00:09:22 and the other one receivers on the opposite side of him. Quarterbacks, when they are running backs, when they really want to see what you can do, they let you run with the one, the number one O line. And normally, when they pull the offensive line out, guess who else coming out? The quarterback, because the quarterback, the starting quarterback is not going to be in there
Starting point is 00:09:44 with the twos and threes. The starting running back is not going to be in there with the twos and threes. So I'm going to be very interesting to see It is the first preseason game And given the way the preseason is done now starters don't normally play They don't normally play
Starting point is 00:10:01 And they don't play much So Shador is going to have to make Shadour is going to have to make wine with the water that he's been given. He's not been giving purified water He's not been given bottle water So he's going to have to make do it what he has. This is the good thing, though.
Starting point is 00:10:18 the cards that he's dealt on Friday night when he enters that game regardless of what's surrounding him he's going to make something happen when he does make something happen when he's able to make something out of nothing and there's no disrespect to the twos
Starting point is 00:10:33 and the threes and the fours that are trying to make that team everybody out there buying for a job for sure but you and I both know there are only about five jobs up for grab they know they know they know within 40 guys
Starting point is 00:10:47 41 guys who's gonna be on that Yeah. Listen, they don't know. They don't know yet because what they're planning on and what they're trying to do, whatever it may be, when he gets his opportunity, all they got to do is not to go down. I don't care what you put around me. I'm going to show you. I'm going to get the job done. So imagine if I can get out there and cut up on Friday with threes and fours and twos at my helm, what do you think will happen when I got the ones? What's the thing going to happen when I got Judy? Huh? And Joku and the rest of them boys at my disposal. as my weaponry if I can do this with my threes and fours and twos out here in a preseason game all he's done all this life is win uh that's all he's done so now you put me in this in this situation a little obstacle a lot adversity all right i i got this i've been here before i got this yeah uh i agree with jojo i mean he's never had a situation like this you don't know what you can overcome until you're faced with it.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Got talking, man, with my pen. Oh, that's a good one. Let me write that down. Don't go too fast, man. I got to write that down. I'm going to put that in my notes. Hold on. Because, oh, your hair's the thing.
Starting point is 00:12:08 See, strength is not what you possess. Strength is overcoming something that you didn't think you could. See, a lot of people think it's, well, I can lift this, or I can do that. That is not strength. strength is overcoming something you didn't think you could
Starting point is 00:12:21 he's never been in this situation before he's been the best and now he's going to have to that strength that his father has instilled him his father is very biblical his father is very into the church is into the word
Starting point is 00:12:38 all those words that his father has been preaching to him for a lifetime it will be put to the test See like when the devil told Yeah of course God He's going to serve you You give him everything Look at the family
Starting point is 00:12:55 Look at the livestock that you have Look at what you blessed him with Why would he not serve you Remove the hedge and he'll curse his very maker Amen Shador has had abundance Of everything He had a dad that had
Starting point is 00:13:15 had resources to get him that opportunity to go learn and study under Tom Brady to get him throwing coaches and to put him in the best situations now you can recall you can call on that to recall what Tom said this and this guy said that and do this do that but at the end of the day when you fall on your knees now because see that That's what faith is. It's believing even though you can't see it. You see, man says, show me, and I'll trust you. God says, trust me, and I'll show you.
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Starting point is 00:15:30 So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. should doer is going to have to rely on his faith because at this time that's all he has and I'm not so sure that he's not the only one that has it
Starting point is 00:15:54 because I'm not so sure the people in that building have faith in him listen the people in the building you got to worry about that you don't have to worry about that at the end of the day if they don't want you
Starting point is 00:16:05 if they don't want you let me put on film let me put on film let me go film it's what you got to do at the end of the day regards to what they do regards to where I'm on the depth chart
Starting point is 00:16:16 I have a job to do and I'm going to do it to the best of my ability regardless of what you put out there on the field with me on Friday at the end of the day it's still football we've been all been playing football
Starting point is 00:16:27 since we've got to the top man you just took the word right out my mouth I was thinking I thought you I've been and should do it see I was should do it before should do her sanders
Starting point is 00:16:38 just at a different position I know what it's like I went to a team that just went to the Super Bowl although they got drubbed they brought every receiver back Mark Jackson Vance Johnson
Starting point is 00:16:51 Rick and Attille Michael Young they only keeping five receivers and four other guys that went to the Super Bowl are back back he's going to be out of So we got
Starting point is 00:17:04 They bring in four or five other receivers Shannon Sharms is a seventh rounder. I know that, but I'm supposed to be a cat body. But what you expect out of me and what I expect out of me are two different things. I don't let you sit my agenda. I don't let you sit my expectation. I see you.
Starting point is 00:17:29 That's how you do or has to think. I know what you're playing. I know, hey, in life, when, uh, When Ray told Claude, he'd say, hey, I know you're thinking something. You got something up your sleeve. I know you got something brewing. I ain't got nothing, Ray.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I got an ass cutting for your brewing. Chador just needs to be Chador. He doesn't have to be anything else other than that. And that's good enough. His best is good enough. He doesn't have to be extraordinary. Now, the NFL, it is the league. You remember that movie, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen?
Starting point is 00:18:09 There are a lot of extraordinary gentlemen in this league. A lot of them. But that ain't what he has to beat out. And that's no disrespect to them. Let's just be realistic. They take it how they want to. I'll just say it. Joe Flacko was in year 18 and he's way past his prime.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Kenny Pickett, hey, we'll see he's hurt. Can't make the club in the toe. of Dylan Gabriel, he's hurt. I'm telling you what's going to happen. Hey, one thing about it, one thing, one thing about the football gods, you hear me? One thing about the football gods. When they know, when they know, especially,
Starting point is 00:18:50 it's funny business going on, the way they're moving. Cream always rise at the top. That's it. I don't care what you put around me. I'm going to make it work. I'm going to make it to do the, listen, when you go to the casino and they deal you them goddamn cars, you can't control what you dealt.
Starting point is 00:19:09 You got to play the hand you dealt. You got to play the hand you dealt. You got to play it to the best of your ability. That's it. That's all they got to do. Go out there with just straight, straight confidence. This is my team. You got to walk it.
Starting point is 00:19:20 You got to play like it. You got to walk in that stadium like you own it. You got to. Oh, I see the game y'all playing. Okay, bet. Let me show you stuff. Yeah. And it's not easy.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Because I don't want people to fake that. Oh, he, you never, yes, yes, there were, there were, there were nice that I would go to bed and I'm asking myself, am I good enough? Man, I only got three plays and I ain't catch a pants. So if I'm a receiver, how am I getting judged? Yeah, by everything else. To do as a quarterback, he don't get no reps. How is he getting judged? Okay, I can't, I caught one point.
Starting point is 00:20:00 I called it. I called it. And it's like, man, is it, man, I had this great career at Glenville. I had a great career in Savannah State. And now I'm here. In my mind, I'm like, what person doesn't think that he's better than some of the people that he's going again? It wasn't like I was, I wasn't going against a Hall of Fame receivers. It wasn't Jerry.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I wouldn't, it wasn't Jerry Rice and my brother and Chris Carter and all those guys out there. That was how I was going to have to try to win time from. Yeah. But I, look, it gave me confidence that John Elway told me I could play in this league. He thought I had the ability to play. It helped me a lot with Mark Jackson would tell, would legitimately tell me what I needed to do. But yeah, there was, I'm fighting for a job and we fighting for a job and the guy told me the wrong route. I didn't know it was the wrong route.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I went in there and ran it. Dare Reed chewed my ass out. You do it full speed, though? Hey, ask me what the hell I'm running the route Hey, oh, Cho, I'm slow I just knew I read the right, right, right, oh, wow Hey, nice slap, ooh, arm or ribbed
Starting point is 00:21:18 that try to, you know what I'm saying, oh, Cho, I hit it right quick because, you know, back then, if you spent too much time dancing in the line of scrimmage, they're going to come up through your face mask. So, hey, plant, chop, I'm over. You blow it with something like, damn, I ain't but halfway through my route, What are he blowing the rest of them for? Let me get this rock. We do something on it.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Shanna Sharp, what the hell are you doing? You know, me, old smart. I'm thinking to myself, where the hell it looked like I do it? Running that route. What you got on such a second? I thought I got. What can I say? Somebody told me the wrong route.
Starting point is 00:21:57 You're supposed to know what the head you're supposed to do anyway. That's a. Hey, let's learn. Let's learn. It's a cutthrow break, so, Joe. I'm trying to get a job. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:09 And if I can remove you out of the way to make my opportunity to get this job easier, guess what I'm going to do. I am going to remove you. Call removing the competition. We know it. We hear all about the drug,
Starting point is 00:22:24 what they try to do. Take over somebody's territory. You try to expand the territory. It doesn't matter how. I just need to expand. I just to make sure. So he's trying to remove me. I run the wrong route.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Hey, let me, hey, never asked again. But you know what? At Mayor Porter used to say, God don't like ugly. Sometimes he don't like pretty. Guess who was the first one to get cut? But he told you the wrong route?
Starting point is 00:22:55 Mm-hmm. Hey, listen, one thing about it, boy, you can't deny greatness, boy. you can't you can't deny greatness you know it was meant for me to go there remember when we got when we got when we got when when should doer got drafted i said it's a blessing in disguise because they've always been they've always had an issue at finding the answer at that position now while they try to play with him i said
Starting point is 00:23:23 was it watch they try to play with him and he ends up being the answer that they didn't even know they had watch i guarantee you And if I'm wrong, I put my foot in my mouth. What the thing is, he might be the answer, Ocho, and that was not even the test that they gave it. That's the problem that they're up against. Wait a minute. Man, bring that back one more time.
Starting point is 00:23:50 That's it. You said he'd be the answer. Yes, he could well be the answer, and that's not the test that they gave it. Hey, what are you preaching the night black god what's for you what's for you what's for you can nobody stop it if it's meant to be it's meant to be and god is god and good and bad and we just got it we just we understand that we accept that but uh yeah he has a lot going on don't think his mind is not hey it's pops you know
Starting point is 00:24:29 how close he is with his dad his dad dealing with what he's dealing with. But his dad's, hey, you handle that, I got this. You handle that up there in Cleveland. You let me take care of this down here in Boulder. Hey. Make the Browns great again. MBGA.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Yeah. Yeah. MBGA. Make the Browns great again. I'm Jake Hofer, and this is Back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eat Eaters podcast network. Each episode, I'll be asking eight wide-tail hunting pros, a focused, thought-provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access? Should you?
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Starting point is 00:26:00 The final. And the locker room. I really, really, like, you just, you can't replicate, you can't get back. Showing up to the locker room every morning just to shit talk. We've got more incredible guests like the legendary Candace Parker and college superstar AZ Fudd. I mean, seriously, y'all. The guest list is absolutely stacked for season two. And, you know, we're always going to keep you up to speed on all the news and happenings around the women's sports world as well.
Starting point is 00:26:26 So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Hey, check this out. Shedura Sanders will start Cleveland's Friday preseason opener. Kevin Stefanski confirmed this today and added that Tyler Snoop Huntley will be the only other quarterback to play in the game
Starting point is 00:26:50 with Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, and Dylan Gabriel slated to rest. Won't he do it? Won't he do it? Mm-hmm. Hey, look, look, your opportunity is to be. presented itself. It's kind of like divine order, if y'all asks me, Arcan Ocho, you know what I mean? Like, it's like God working mysterious ways, man.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I know we don't want nobody to get hurt, but to see them two dudes have, you know, somewhere hamstring injuries and flacco, obviously probably who's not going to play. Man, I'm looking forward to him just coming out, you know, relaxing and just having fun, bro. I think it's going to be a good time for the young fella. My mind, you know, my mindset is?
Starting point is 00:27:30 What's that? Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel about to get some permanent rest. I'm going to play so good. They're going to be gone. It's old for them. Yeah. It's old for them. Just go, hey, just do what you do.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Enjoy the moment. That's it. Man. Just be you. Titus, stop. Hey, but look, can y'all imagine, like, the jitters or the butterflies that he may have? Like, he's actually about to get ready to live out of the American dream, you know, which is making it to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:28:05 That's probably one of his main goals. And to be able to, you know, start in his first preseason game, man, I remember when I was a rookie, Uncle Ocho, listen, but I took the preseason like it was the playoffs. Like, you know, because as a young fellow, you know, you got to prove yourself. You don't know no better. You got to prove yourself. So only thing you know is going out there playing hard and showing that you belong.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Mm-hmm. Yeah. What's that? Wait, yeah, it's the party over there, huh? What's that, Tyne? Man, Thanos doesn't got a haircut. Who yet? He's right here.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Oh, I thought that was Teddy. Mm-mm. What? I'm just... Oh, get him, get him, Thanos. Tighten. You need to hush, bro. You got some killers over there, boy.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I agree with you, Joe. And I was talking, telling you old show this. I said, look how this thing worked out. Yeah. Four string and going to start. Yeah. I told you, listen. Four string, he's fourth on the depth chart.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Mm-hmm. yeah i don't know because what i've been i mean i read and it says man chadour is out playing dilling gabriel and then some people keep saying well he he ain't he ain't i don't really know i mean i wish i could be there to actually see it for myself but i've read more articles and with it it's it it says it reads that chadour is out playing dilling gabriel yeah i agree i've been i've been seeing some of that i've been seeing a lot of it too you know my eyes in the ears my eyes eyes in the ears, they're in Miami. You hear me?
Starting point is 00:30:03 What do you mean? But when I want to know about what's going on and how- He got eyes in Miami, he got ears in Cleveland. Oh, okay. You hit me? So I just add. I go straight to the source. I go to the source that's actually on the field.
Starting point is 00:30:14 I go to the source that's not a media person, that's not an analyst that can give it to me straight. Boy, what them boys out there looking like, man? Okay, boom. That last time I said a name, this time I'm not saying no names. which is why I'm so confident and when we talk about Shador and the Cleveland Browns.
Starting point is 00:30:35 That's all. Because I also mean no disrespect. I told you we're going to get his opportunity. I didn't know it become this fast and in this way. I've said it. I said it before. Okay, Joe Flacko's going to be the start of.
Starting point is 00:30:49 And I say if things aren't going well for Joe Flacko because he plays well in spurts, he'll get on a four or five game stretch and things somewhat fall apart or come off the hinges. and then get his opportunities. Now you get your opportunity early. You see how God work?
Starting point is 00:31:03 Yep. Remember the Wally Pip story? You know about the Wally Pip story? Yeah. Hey, Chad, if you don't know about the Wally Pip story, look at the Wally Pip story, you know. I don't want nobody injured, but I just want the opportunities given to players
Starting point is 00:31:17 that are drafted to a team to be fair and anybody given to the team. Well, you see how God worked. Wally Pipp wasn't injured. He just had a headache that day. it never got his job back but you look we'll find out we'll see everybody like it's only three preseason games so I mean the mere fact that he's playing because normally when guys they're not expecting guys to make a ticket oh cho they don't let normally they don't let them guys play
Starting point is 00:31:49 because you know why because I don't want you to get hurt and I got to keep you. Hey, but listen, he prepared for this, huh? Joe, he's prepared for this moment. If anything and all you've been through, the doubters, the naysayers, the haters, your enemies right there in your own backyard that drafted you, if what the owner said last week is not motivation to go out there and cut a plum fool in an organized way,
Starting point is 00:32:21 in an organized way, in a structure environment, It's still the game of football. Show that you can be a leader. Calm, quiet, collected, and reserved. Martha, I guarantee, watch what happened. For guarantee he marched the ass right down the goddamn field in that first drive. First drive.
Starting point is 00:32:40 First drive. I guarantee you, that's how I play out. Marching right down the field. Listen, if you don't play well, I'm holding him accountable. If you don't play well, I'm holding him accountable. Just like, we're supposed to hold everybody accountable. I mean, but you see how they figured it up, oh, Joe? Huh?
Starting point is 00:32:59 Oh, they're talking about, oh, Joe Flacko, Kenny Pickin, and Dylan Gabriel are slated the rest. Nah, they hurt. Two or three hurt. Ain't no resting. They ain't got enough credential. They ain't got enough time under their belt to get rest in a preseason game. They ain't done enough. Only one got time.
Starting point is 00:33:16 The rest is Joe Flacco. Yeah, exactly. He got 18. Okay. I get that. But the mother two? Mm-hmm. They fight for job, now.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited. You know who play tomorrow? Who play tomorrow? The Bengals. Ha, that's who? What you mean?
Starting point is 00:33:34 Who they play, who they play, Ocho? They play the Eagles, well? We play the Eagles. You know, we play the Eagles. You know, we're going to put belt-the-ass. That's what you're going to be. First of all, y'all don't play in the preseason. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Same thing. Hey, we can't, listen, we're not pulling that. We're not pulling that this year. Y'all pull that every year. No, no, no, I'm saying they've been relaxing the preseason, right? Yeah. And then going to week one, trying to go from zero to 100. Oh, true.
Starting point is 00:34:05 So, Jamar, T, I need y'all boys. Get one or two series. Get one or two series. Just get the juices flowing. Get acclimated to the speed of the game. I know y'all, your veterans now. Come on now. We can't start.
Starting point is 00:34:20 We can't start the season, 0 and 2, 0 and 3. out the gate again. We can't, we can't afford that. We can't afford that. I get y'all a quarter. I give them a quarter. They ain't a quarter. They ain't playing the first pre-season game, Joe. Maybe one series, one or two series. They ain't going to give us a half? Not to the third game. Well, it's only, it's only, it's only, it's only, it's only three games now, huh? Three, yeah. Yeah, so the third game. Hey, Joe, we played a half.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Damn, the, the whole first half. Yeah. Or play, or play the first series of third quarter? Mm-hmm. All right. See you try working with. Hey, Joe, I love the practice so much. I love the preseason so much because I wanted to get my body as acclimated to game speed
Starting point is 00:35:08 as fast as possible. Joe, we can practice for 100 days straight, full pads against yourself, and you get in the game, it's nothing like that. Yeah. Nothing like that. It's fast as no matter what you do. There's no way to duplicate
Starting point is 00:35:23 and replicate the speed of an actual NFL game. I don't care how much you practice. That's why I love them so much. I had Coach Lewis, hey, I told this before. Joe, I would not come out the game in preseason. I made Coach Lewis call a timeout. You wanted to get your reps in. What?
Starting point is 00:35:41 It's about one series. Man, he came out and the tools went in. I told the receiver to stay back, and I went back in the game again. Hey, Ojo. I understand what you're saying. Rhythm and time is everything, brother, especially in basketball. You know, so I can understand in football, you know, just, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:00 route running, being sharp on your plays. I can understand that part, just like basketball. If you don't play, bro, you lose that rhythm and time and it throw you off. Right. Yeah. It definitely takes time. And look, I needed to get reps too. That's how I was on show.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I wanted to look. I understand, okay, we're going to go a series, the first game, maybe two series or the quarter of the third, the second game, and then we go into the half. we go at bare minimum we go into the half and normally we take the first series because and sometimes we're like okay we're going to use the first series in the third quarter we're going to go two minutes
Starting point is 00:36:32 so we're going to go hurry up just to get that in one time but yeah I needed a preseason like these guys I don't know how they do it. I take my hat off to these guys that come out there and I guess right now what they do it, Ocho, these are scripted practices
Starting point is 00:36:47 against each other. I guess that's their preseason game. That ain't that ain't foot. That ain't. No, no, it ain't the same. Right. Not even close. But I'm anxious to see, I'm anxious to see what should, how should do it.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Look, I don't care what anybody said. You're going to be nervous. I don't care how long you've been playing football. This is every, every, every, every, every, every, I got nervous every game I played. That's what I'm saying. The preseason, I mean, I got butterflies and I got goosebumps every game that I played. Same. And you've been playing, I've been playing tackle football.
Starting point is 00:37:22 since I was nine. Yeah. And I still got nervous. Yeah. Hey, when they, Hey, Joe, what's up?
Starting point is 00:37:30 They play that field Collins. Oh. In the air of the night. And, ooh, when that thing played and you out there stretching. I can feel it. Hey, Joe.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Oh, right before, right before kickoff and that Welcome to the Jungle Star playing. Man, listen. Oh, Joe, I'd be so nervous. Yeah. I'd be so nervous.
Starting point is 00:37:52 and for one, and I made it even worse on myself, Joe, because I don't talk trash all week. Oh, Joe. It's saying Burrow and the starters will play the first quarter. See? I told, boy, we go on the Super Bowl, boy.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Man, I just told you y'all that. Hey, boy, boy, listen, I know, I know, hey, Zach, hey, Zach Taylor, hey, Zach, I know you're going to see this. I love you. Hey, Joe Burrow, I love you. T. Higgins, Chase,
Starting point is 00:38:20 the rest of the receivers, the old line. Now, this, this is what they doing today, what they doing tomorrow is going to be the reason why we're going to be in San Francisco. I said it here first. Okay. I said it here first. Now watch how we come out week one in September.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Who got that week one? It don't even matter. Cleveland. I think we got Cleveland. No, I'm serious. I think, hey, Chad, who we got week one? The Bengals, we got Cleveland, right? You know what, me, Ocho, I ain't like open up
Starting point is 00:38:51 with division opponents. Let me get, let me get my rhythm. Let me get some time. Let me get like two or three games in before I tell y'all, look, that first game, Coach, you ain't got your time and your foot eight,
Starting point is 00:39:00 you know, you ain't got your feet right yet, you know what I'm saying? Let me get like three or four games in. Let me see y'all week four, week five. Okay, okay. But y'all do open up, you all do open up with Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, I knew. I know what I want to do. At Cleveland, at Cleveland. I got the schedule in my head. I got the schedule in my head. I'm ready. Hey, look, look. It ain't nothing like getting off to a good start
Starting point is 00:39:21 neither boy winning that first game oh yeah yeah there ain't nothing like you always want to get off to a good star boy yeah you gotta win that first game ain't nothing like they so the brother give me should do a one day of reps with the ones for the very first time at the joint practice two days before start let's see here for a second chat so all this time he ain't got no work with the ones not one not one snap not one rep he won't he do it hey boy from the ball out man
Starting point is 00:39:58 a mysterious way and I'm telling you gonna go out there take them boy right down the field I'm just trying to figure out if you're really trying to do an evaluation Ocho how can I say I'm trying to evaluate you when I don't give you the same opportunities
Starting point is 00:40:12 that I'm giving everybody else that I'm evaluating now Ocho I'm almost see if you can do this job now the job requires a computer but I ain't gonna give you you know computer, Ocho. But this is what I'm going to do. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Them other guys ain't come to work today. Okay, Ocho, you up. Here's the computer. Now, you ain't let me work the computer the whole damn time for two weeks. But you know the funny thing about that on? Even though I wasn't able to work the computer for them two weeks, when you put the computer in my hands,
Starting point is 00:40:45 I'm a still better than nose that's had it at their disposal before me anyway. Hello. Hello. I'm going to be better than those they had the computer than other two weeks before me anyway. And I'm going to put it on display under the lights
Starting point is 00:41:00 at that. Well, I just thought, like, if you're evaluating, you evaluate under the same sort of circumstances. You can't say, well, you can't say, well, I'm going to see these two. If I got two panes and I'm going to see which one can stand the temperature, I got to put them under the same
Starting point is 00:41:16 temperature in order to do a proper evaluation. I can't let one guy get no reps with the ones. Only get a few reps with the threes and fours. And now I get two days before okay, okay, you're up, son.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Yeah. That's not an evaluation. Evaluation is you put things under the same set of circumstances over the same amount of time. I like it. That's how you get
Starting point is 00:41:48 boiling or you get freezing temperatures. Because guess what, it's going to, at 212, it's going to boil. It's either going to bust pipes or make diamonds, baby. I'm ready. This is an opportunity. This is what he waited for. This is what a lot of people cheered for. Like, man, I sure hope he gets an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:42:10 I sure hope he gets a chance to show what he can do. And this is how the opportunity came about. I don't feel bad. I know you saw this chat I know y'all saw that Joe I'm not sure how often you're on Twitter but you know I'm on there all day having fun making a joke but did you see the mean right
Starting point is 00:42:30 the meme but I think it might have been the end of Kobe's career Kobe might have hit 60 at a game and all the celebrities there and they used that that clip of Snoop Dog and Kanye everybody was caught side and they were here it was hype right I guess Kobe might have hit 60 or something
Starting point is 00:42:48 yeah he had 60 that year gives Utah that's what it was was. Yeah. And the caption was, this is, this is black Twitter when you do her
Starting point is 00:42:56 throw his first eight-yard slant and everybody go away. No, it is so funny. Even Prime had the comment on it.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Eighths is his first completion. Yeah, first completion. His first completion that people are going to be, hey, man,
Starting point is 00:43:10 that's the game winning the Super Bowl. Hey, no, that was so funny. Hey, what y'all think the race is going
Starting point is 00:43:15 going to be on this game Friday when they play? Oh, it's going to be crazy. rating going to be crazy. Because, you know, everybody
Starting point is 00:43:23 tuning in the CBA 12 and it do. Yeah, for sure. For sure. It'll be the one. Hell, this game might do a bigger rating than the real Browns game. Why, you boo?
Starting point is 00:43:35 No, no, real talk. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. When was the last time, the last time, they had a player that was this talked about.
Starting point is 00:43:46 You probably got to go back to Baker Mayfield. Yeah. Probably, probably Baker. And the same thing happened to Baker. Remember? You put Baker as the backup, and everybody was talking about Baker the backup.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yeah. Damn. I'm trying to think of a little bit that was talking about. Hey, this is how any big it is, Ocho. Joe, it's a national televised game. Mm. Yeah. Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:44:11 In the preseason. Yeah. Yeah. The stage said, man. It's their age at time. Yeah. Oh, let me add a little plot twist for yocho Cleveland
Starting point is 00:44:21 Carolina Panthers National televised game that's crazy ain't that's that's crazy ain't it it's crazy the power of that last name even though they're trying to humble it
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