Club Shay Shay - Best of Super Bowl LX Part 1: Seahawks WIN + Bad Bunny Halftime Show

Episode Date: February 11, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Seattle Seahawks facing the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LX in San Francisco. Plus, the duo give their thoughts on Bad Bunny'...s halftime performance Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 0:00 - Seahawks Def. Patriots to become Super Bowl Champions30:04 - Thought on Bad Bunny's Halftime Performance48:50 - Sam Darnold's legacy (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 network on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or whatever you get your podcast. Hello, it's your favorite sports funk here. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button to join the fastest growing community on YouTube. Remember, nightcap doesn't happen without you. So please subscribe or you're going to make Ocho cry. Ocho, the Seattle Seahawks beat. The Patriots by the score of 29 to 13.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Seattle defense nominated this ball game. They sacked Drake May six times, picked him off twice, and forced to fumble. And I don't know if you notice, Ojo, but if you cannot run the ball against Seattle, you can't beat them. Because they're going to play quarter of coverage. Do we'll keep the safeties back? And then just just hawk you with the front seven. And Mike McDonald saw something early. If you notice, he brought a lot of spot pressure with a spoon, even Worry.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Yes. They brought that pressure. And Drake May, it got to him because when he wasn't expecting pressure, they brought it. When he was expecting pressure, they backed up out of it. And what it caused him to do is make some air and throws when he had guys open. This game should have been over a long time ago. Sam Donald did not play his best ball. He left some plays on the field, Locho.
Starting point is 00:02:47 On the third down, he missed Cooper Cup. He should have walked in the end zone at that post. He was late. He threw it on his back here. Oh, great jump by Gonzalez. The ball was late. If he throws that like he's supposed to, that's a walk-in judge. But anyway, they waited anyway, 29, 13, Ocho, what did you like about what you saw from Seattle from start to finish?
Starting point is 00:03:11 I mean, start to finish, on defense. I said it, I said it from the beginning. The games, games like this are won in the trenches. It starts with the defense. Listen, offense, it puts butts in the seats, but defense win championships. And that's why the game was won tonight by Seattle. I think offensively, Seattle didn't do much in the first half, but hell, neither did the offense of New England. They didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:03:33 The game was close enough and they've had opportunity. Drake May and that offense had opportunities to make it a game, but they just couldn't do anything offensive because the defense plays so damn well. I'm not sure who the center, the guard and the left tackle are for the goddamn New Union Patriots. They need to get into the wait room this all season. You get into the weight room this all season. I even tweeted at half time at the half. If you're going to do anything outside of the quick game, play action or five-step drop,
Starting point is 00:04:01 you need to help the left guard. You need to help the center in the best way you can because they are getting obliterated and anything outside the three-step drop. And listen, offensively, the Seahawks didn't get going. They had a play here and the play there and things didn't open up until the second half.
Starting point is 00:04:17 And they ran away with the game. Yeah. The thing is, it's hard to go play. The thing is, Ocho, they couldn't run the football. And once you can't run the football, because their corners are really good, they're going to break on anything underneath. And they know you don't have time to throw it deep.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So now you're up against it. You're right. That left side of the line for the Patriots is not very good. Will Campbell with a high draft pick. And I don't know if it's injury. But he has a problem with speed guys and it has a guy that convert speed to power. Because if you look at him, Ocho, when guys, when he sits on the bull, the guy still go by him. I'm like, well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:04:50 You just said, heavy. You know he's going to come with the bull. And he still runs you over? Yeah, you got to anchor down. And that's what I'm saying, the mocho, he anchored. And he's got to get a, he got to do some squads. He got to do some squads. He got to do some power clean.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Because right now, hey, they just, hey, boy, they're going through him like far and water through a tourist. And I'm like, bro, you got to get, hey, you got to get stronger. It's not good enough. He's a liability. Your left tackle is supposed to be one of your best players, one of your two best players. Be best, uh, be best. Your left tackle is your money position. It's the quarterback's blind side.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's why they make the most money. Look, I understand that he's a rookie, Ocho. But if you look at him since he got back, now he played much better. I'm going to say, you know what, Ocho, a lot of that might have to do with injuries because he did have a lower leg injury. Yes. But boy, these playoffs were not kind to him because everybody got an opportunity because all these games are televised and there's only one going on at a time. And so you can see just how bad he was. And he was a liability.
Starting point is 00:05:50 He was their worst offensive lineman followed closely by the left guard. You can have one. You can have one because they work as a unit. The offensive line is never one. But when you got two. of a five-spoke bike. Yeah. It's going to make you look bad, Joe.
Starting point is 00:06:08 It's going to make you look bad. Yeah, and not only that, not only could you, they couldn't hold up in path protection, but the fact that you couldn't run the ball and that makes you one-dimensional, and when you're playing a defense like that, that is really good at all three levels.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Hell, the funny thing about the Seahawks, you didn't even have to blitz if you didn't want to, because your back-in is just that goddamn good. But they decide the blitz and make drape mate uncomfortable. And they, they got to him. They got to him almost every time. And the time that it didn't,
Starting point is 00:06:37 when he was expecting a blitz and didn't get it, the goddamn throws were airy. Because that's what you want to do. You want to speed him up. You want to make him think that we're coming when we're not, and you want to make it, well, they're not coming, and we are. And if you notice, they're bliss and speed guys.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So the distance, the time that, and he timed the spoon was timing it up perfect. He was timing it up perfect. I mean, he was hitting the line on a dead run. and boom, again, Mike McDonnell, he pitched the game. I thought Clint Kubiak called a great game. You see the run. They stuck with the run.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Stuck with the run. We're not going to get away from it, even though we didn't get, hey, you stopped us in the back field for a two-yard loss. Yeah, we only got two yards, but I'm not abandoning it. I'm not going to put us in a situation where we just throw, throw, throw, incomplete, and the defense is right back on the field. I'm going to take some time off this clock. But the first half, this game was all about K-9.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He was sensational because at one point, I think he had the same amount of yards by himself as the team had because that was it. I thought the Patriot did a great job on JSCN. I thought they did a great job. Gonzalez took him some, and when they didn't have him, they did a great job of rolling coverage
Starting point is 00:07:53 and having people up underneath them. They did a great job on him. But it was just too much firepower by the Seattle Seahawks. That defense is as good as advertised. And when the Patriots couldn't run the football, they were in a heap of trouble because they could get there with four. And when they brought pressure, they got there every single time.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Hey, they got damn. There was some, there was some bright spots for the New England of Pages. Where were they? Obviously. The uniform? I mean, Christian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'm just saying, I mean, from an individual standpoint, I think if I'm not mistaken, he only allowed maybe two confusions tonight. He had a lot, a lot of past. That deep part.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That deep ball to Rashid. The timing was impeccable. Impegable timing. Almost like that Pat Sertaine play, if he had maybe another step, he could almost pick that off damn there. Sam Donald's probably... Remember that Pat's a game play
Starting point is 00:08:48 when Pat picked it off? Yeah, against Green Bay. Sam Donald's probably thinking, now if I throw the second ball like I threw the first ball, that's a touchdown. Because if I put that out there, he runs up under it.
Starting point is 00:09:04 This one, if I take a little, little off it. I overshoed it. But I look, I understand he's like, man, I just, as long as I don't make a mistake, they can't beat us. They can't consistently go up and down the field and beat us. And I thought he played,
Starting point is 00:09:16 I thought he made some plays. But I thought early on he left some plays on the field. That third down played the Cooper Cup. You got to stay on the field with that. J.S.N. is out. Stay on the field in that. The touchdown, that double move that JSCN had on Gonzalez. Oh, that's a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:09:32 That's got to be a walking touchdown. You've got to put that. in front of them because there ain't no safety there. Ain't no safety there. The timing was off. I'm not sure why the time was off or the time was all. I'm not sure if he had pressure or he had a hand in his face or whatever it may have been. That's one of those once you hit that back foot, the ball got gone. When the ball got to be gone. Because first of all, I already know this. He's not, he's not bumped. So his timing is not going to be. And if he bumping once he gets past the five yards, it's going to be PI. So your timing is not
Starting point is 00:10:01 going to be impeded. So all I got to do, Joe, I'm in the show. I'm in the show. I'm in the shotgun. So once that, hey, I take them three steps, that ball gone. Because I already know, yeah. JSC got a clean release. There's no safety in the hole. That's a walking touchdown. Hey, exactly. All you got to do is put your ball between, put your body between the defender and the ball and you go. Oh, he got it. He got it. Oh, because he, he, he, I don't know how he run it. I'm, he running and do this. I'm like, hold on. Man, all my knees, I left, I left ACL, MCL, PCL, UCL, I'd have left all that on the field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:38 But give, give Seattle credit. And the thing is, you look, once they got past the Rams, I mean, think about it. And this is another indication
Starting point is 00:10:50 that Drake made, that Matthew Stafford should have been the MVP. Because he threw for them to 900 yards against this team with no picks. Yes. Twice. Twice. And the funny thing, too, about it,
Starting point is 00:11:03 is the Rams, the line is much better than that of the Patriot, too. So he was allowed the time to be able to do so as opposed to the Patriots who offers the line with shaky all sees alone. That's what they talked about, because they were winning. He dropped 42 on them and then 20, what, 28, 27? Yeah. In two games and what you call them, had 13 tonight.
Starting point is 00:11:28 But Seahawks is good. Do we know who won the MVP yet, Ocho? I mean, I'm not sure. Look, if K9 get it, I mean, they can't get to where else. They can't give it to the whole defense. You can't give it to the whole defense. Maybe K9, for me, it'll be K9 a spoon. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:11:46 K9 a spoon. I think Kenneth Walker, Kenneth Walker kind of set the tone for, it'd be crazy if they gave it to the pointer because he kept him pinned down. Yeah, yeah, he did. He put that thing out, hey, he put it out into one. He put it out to half. He put it out to five. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 It should be K-9. I'm happy for Sam Donald. Yes. I'm happy to Tom Donald on his journey, how everything started, being the third, being the third, picking the draft, obviously going to the Jets, things not going well in Carolina, things not going well, you know, in San Fran and finally finding the destination. Minnesota, I'm not, I'm sure Minnesota got to be kicking, kicking themselves, and you know, what, got to be kicking themselves, and you know what, I'm not sure who makes the decision
Starting point is 00:12:27 makings over there. Obviously, you understand the purgatory situation that they're in at the quarterback position, And to see Sam Donald go over to a place like Seattle where the structure and environment, it's a winning organization and finally get, you know, what we all dream of. You know, we play the game for one reason. That's the winner championship. And he got him. He did.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He did. Sam Donald's 19 to 38 to 202, one touchdown, clean game, no interception. He was sacked once. Kenneth Walker, 27 carers of buck 35. They didn't turn the ball over. 32 carries for a buck 41. Um, no, no receiver went out. Look, they were not going to let J.S.N beat them.
Starting point is 00:13:07 They were not going to let him go crazy. Um, yeah. But that defense, crazy. Crazy. Listen, they're not, they're not the Legion of Boom, but they're not too goddamn far off. That's why the moniker that they call them side, they call themselves the
Starting point is 00:13:25 dark side, they're worthy. They're, they're worthy of that moniker being called the dark side. What's called? You could definitely play for the Legion of a Boom, Witherspoon. He definitely could, He definitely could have been to start opposite of the CERN. Now, they got some hitters. Errol Curb was a little bit more ground.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Cam was more of a thumper. Cam was going to knock you out on that. But they played a different coverage. This team is more quarters coverage for across the board. And the other team was more of a single high safety robber alert coverage where Cam was looking to pick up any crossing routes. That's why he was knocking so many tight ends and wire receivers out on that crossing route because he's looking to rob it.
Starting point is 00:14:01 So, but this, hey, defensively, hey, congratulations, D-Law. He's like, look, Dallas will always be my home, but I can't get a chip in Dallas. And he goes to Seattle in his first year, he gets a chip. And they lead to that veteran leadership. Leonard Williams, who came on the show. Ernest Jones, the 4th, Julian, I mean, hey, congratulations, guys, very well-earned victory, very hard fought victory. Mike McDonald, unbelievable job. Clint Kubiak called a great offensive game.
Starting point is 00:14:31 This was a total of team effort. And you know what? They're going to lose some pieces. They're going to lose some, Mocho. But this team, they're equipped to be here for a minute. Now,
Starting point is 00:14:43 injuries are all bets off. All bets off. You lose, I mean, you know, you lose JSCN and you lose one of a key guy like that offensively. You know, all bets off. But I love the way McDonnell in two years
Starting point is 00:14:55 have built this team. Give a, what's the, Snyder. Give him credit. Hey, give him credit. It's not, Snyder's the game, right? EGN. And player, and yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Hell of a job. Yep. You remember 21, that was a... Herbie? K91. Oh, did he? Okay, good deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Good deal. Hey, I thought he'd go get the record. Now, holding call, man, Ocho, he might have been over. He'd have been close to Timmy Smith 205. Yeah. He would have been at 175-some if he, if they had to be. that holding. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 So that's Marcus, that's foot in number two, probably Marcus Allen. I think Marcus Allen had $1.70 something. But man. Yeah. It was, I mean. It's the type of game that we thought it was going to be, Ocho. We knew it wasn't going to be up and down.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Yeah. I mean, I figured that, but a lot of people were upset. Obviously, me asking the question, what do people think about the first half of the game? They were upset. It's the snoo's fast. It was born. But obviously.
Starting point is 00:16:01 You remember New England and the rounds was a snooze where, you know, the Pittsburgh, the Pittsburgh in Minnesota was two nothing. Yeah. Well, it was zero, zero at the half against, I think, New England and the Rams back in Atlanta in 2019. Yeah. I'd rather this tonight as opposed to a team getting blown out and you sit there through the entirety of the game. All in that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:29 But you never know because the momentum in this game is so funny. in a regular season game, the momentum just swings and swings and swings. But in a game like this, the momentum only swings once twice. And then how much separation can you get when you have the momentum? Because the other team is going to get it. And you see Seattle race out, 12-0-0, and they get the touchdown, they get the fumble and go with 19-0, and then what-you-call-n score,
Starting point is 00:17:03 the next thing you know, they get a touchdown, and then basically the game's over. Yeah, they tack on some cheap yard at Joe Cho. I mean, you look at Drake, May. If you didn't watch this game, you're like, well, okay, 23 or 43, 2-995, two touchdowns, two interceptions. No, no. There was some, them empty calorie yard.
Starting point is 00:17:23 They pressured him six sacks, minus 43 yards, so they lost 43 yards on those sacks, two interceptions, a fumble. So we had a pick that went for a touchdown, and he had another fumble. set up a touchdown. Humbolded. But this defense, the defense was sensational.
Starting point is 00:17:39 And we've seen this defense before. Super Bowl 48. They did this to the Broncos. The Broncos had the number one offense. Pat McAruh for 55 touchdowns. They averaged, what, 38 points a game, had three receivers go over 1,000 yards. Three receivers, I mean, five different received players
Starting point is 00:17:55 have at least 10 touchdowns. Right. Well, Decker and D. D.T. Rest and so, D.C. Both had a thousand yard. Russ Welker had 10 touchdowns. D.T. Decker,
Starting point is 00:18:08 Julius Thomas had 10 touchdowns, and no Sean Marino had 10 touchdowns. But the Legion of Boo came out and dominated. It took a Hercules and effort. It took Tom Brady. Anybody else Super Bowl 49, they do that again. But that's Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:18:24 And Tom Brady, a vampire. Man, you better drive a stake through that Mo for a heart of shooting with some silver bullets. Because other than that, you're going to tell your ass up. In precious situations, he shows up the base. He's super duper calm. You know what?
Starting point is 00:18:39 I would like, they should have been measure him to see how calm he is in those situations. You know how you, you know how you're a pretty situation? Heartbeat goes up. They have him on running sometimes that you see his. Their heart rate goes up 150, 160, 170, 180, 190. I wonder what Tom Brady heart rate was in situations like that. It had been very interesting to see.
Starting point is 00:19:03 but, man, this was, this was, look, okay, I mean, they got 29 points. I can see if the game was like, like it was in Atlanta, 13 to 3. That's some bulljohn. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you got two very good defenses. I mean, look, New England, the offense didn't help New England out. All those three in Austin, that's what happened with the Broncos.
Starting point is 00:19:28 The Broncos just made one fatal mistake. They went forward on fourth down instead of selling for the field goal. And it cost them. But if you could, the Broncos sacked him five times, he was sacked. Think about how many times he turned the ball over against Houston. And they got away from it because CJ said, when I'm going to want up you, I ain't fit to let you let you lose this game. Let me help y'all win.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Let me throw four picks in the first half. But Seattle's defense, man, God almighty no. I am. They were good. And people were complaining all the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Patriot's office of play calling is as bad. It's a snooze fest and not do anything. But I think I don't think people understand that the goddamn Seahawks defenses
Starting point is 00:20:10 that did. Yeah. They gave the second few points? 17. 17. Because I think what you call was one. Houston was one. They were two.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Broncos were three. Patriots was like maybe top five. Yeah. In this age and time, you give up less than 20 points a damn game. With the way they call it, the way these explosive office and, I mean, I mean, you're in a division with the Rams. You're in the division with the 49ers. Two teams that can put points on the board.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Oh, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. They're good. They're good. They're good from the front to back. The D-line is good. The lineback Ernie Jones to Fourth is really good. And that secondary is outstanding.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I'm talking about outstanding. And you know what, Ocho, they let them play today. Yeah. They let them play. Yeah. Mm-hmm. They let them play. And that's that's what you want.
Starting point is 00:21:02 the Patriots offensive line. You gave up 20, in four games, you gave up 21 sacks. You gave up 21 sacks and four games, that's five, that's five sacks a game. Five sacks a game. If that's a regular season game, that's 85 sacks. Your quarterback will play that year and then you'll be done. It'll be hurt. Y'all got to fix that.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You got to fix that. And it's not talked about because you winning, too. Yes. But if you watch them against Houston, and everybody's up, without Houston, they do that to everybody. Okay, you see there against the Broncos, where the Broncos sack everybody.
Starting point is 00:21:41 And you see, and see, and see, you let it go. But ain't nothing you can do about it now, Ocho, we're here. Ain't like we can go out there and get something, get off it. You can't get Trent Williams. You know what I'm saying? You can't trade for a tackle.
Starting point is 00:21:52 You got what you got. Yeah. But the problem is that when you get the games like this, it gets magnified. Whatever your weakness is. it gets magnified. And the offensive line has been a problem. And I thought they did a great job of getting after.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Drake May took off a couple of times. But for the most part, when they got there, they got home, they got him on the ground. They got him on the ground. But Witherspoon was sensational. I mean, hey, he don't get talked about enough. He might be the best blessing slot guy. I've seen.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Because he gets, because he's so, out of you, don't really. What did the spoon run? He ran like what, four two something? four two, four three? Now, Willem ran four two. I think Witherspoon might be four three though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:37 He might be, no, not only was he getting home. He was still beating someone in front of him once he got home too. He had to beat somebody one time. I think it might have been in the guard and the tackle. A spite of it was left when he blitz. It almost looked like a damn like a double mug. It was. Almost.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Because what happened was in that. He beat the tackle. I'm like, he beat the guard at a time. I'm like, well, God, damn. Well, what happened was is that seven and the back, and the back took seven, and that left Spoon. But if you go, if you go watch Spoon, look how fast he closed that. Because he had to bend, I'll say Spoon ran 442.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Ocho, and he, when he, like, he stuck his foot in the dirt. Because what you call was getting ready to throw the ball. Hit it, seven catches, Wansu. Perfect time. Seahaw's general manager, John Snyder, was already the first NFL executive construct multiple Super Bowl rosters with different coaches and zero common players. Now, he's built two Super Bowl champions, two iconic defenses, and two separate areas. He knows what he's looking for.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Mike McDowell, hey, the Ravens defense hadn't been the same since he left. Because remember, Ocho, after they lost the NFC championship game, he got the job in Seattle. And everybody's like, well, hold on, damn. Now you see why he got that job. Yeah. You got an eye for it. To win the Super Bowl. Behind Sean McVeigh and Mike Tomlin, both who wanted at 36, he's 38.
Starting point is 00:24:13 38. Yeah, some coaches have an eye for it. Yes. Some coaches have an eye for. And it makes your job easier as a coach when you understand what you're looking for. And you understand how to put pieces together. The better the hand you play when you get your cars dealt, the better your chances to win it. can you lead men?
Starting point is 00:24:33 It comes down. Can you lead men? That's up. And yeah. The answer is yes, he can. And he's done it. An unbelievable job of leading men. John Snyder's done a great job of constructing this roster. Like you said, think about it now.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Everybody laughed at him when he moved on from Russ. Oh, y'all gave him on Russ, blah, blah, but Russ still had you. Like, nah, I know. They believe that Russ. was on the downside of his career. They have been proven correct. People laughed at it when they got rid of Gino.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Gino? No, they have been proven correct. When they moved on from D.K. and lock it. They have been proving correct. Yes, and it's been everything. He has been advocating. Yes. And the tight ends, I mean, you look at Barnett,
Starting point is 00:25:21 I mean, they ain't got no big name tight ends, but those guys make plays when given an opportunity. And defensively, oh, my goodness. speak for a shell. Oh man. To get Big Leonard Williams, to go out and free and get D. Law, and to bring in Jerry Reed and to get Ernest Jones the 4th, to sign Junior Love when you already got Jamal Adams.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Give me credit. Most of the time you would call it luck when you do it once. Yeah, yeah. Most of the time you call it luck when you do it once. But when you do it the second time, you can't be that lucky in draft Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman and Bobby Wagner. and Cam Chancellor and Earl Thomas,
Starting point is 00:26:05 you can't be that lucky. That ain't lucky. You can't be that lucky and go get cursed and Baldwin and Golden Tate. You can't be that lucky. And guess what? And five, six years later,
Starting point is 00:26:16 you turn around and do it again? No, they ain't lucky. Hell no. Hell to the no. To say, look, we believe we're a quarterback away from being a championship team because if you look at the pieces,
Starting point is 00:26:31 they're there. Yeah, they got a few added D law. but they've added a few pieces. But for the most part, this roster is what it is, is what it was last year. And they believe they were a quarterback away from competing for a Super Bowl, and I be damn.
Starting point is 00:26:47 They were right. And the funny thing about it, too long, if you think about it, you understand how the landscape of the NFL works. You understand for East team to be able to be in contention and to be in the conversations of reaching the Super Bowl. I mean, all you are is a quarterback away. Now, there are other, there are other aspects of it
Starting point is 00:27:03 that you need as well, the other pieces that you need as well. But the foundational piece, even think about playing a Sue Boat is having a goddamn quarterback, unless your defense is all world. And even then, in today's game, you're going to need a little help. I like Sam Darno when he came out in 26. I didn't know Sam Darno could be there. Well, he wasn't going to be this in New York.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So let me take that back. I thought Sam Darner, I love Sam Darner coming out, especially what he did in the Rose Bowl. I don't know if you remember, Ocho. he went crazy. He went crazy. If I'm not mistaken, there was against Penn State.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Sequin went crazy, but he lost his damn mind. Yeah. And so I really liked him. But going to the Jets, Tom Brady would have been a bus with the Jets. That's how bad that organization is. And nobody succeeded with the Jets.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Nobody. It's bad. So with that big. being said the best sometimes, Ocho, the best thing happened is that you move on. It's like a relationship, Ocho. Yeah. She wasn't right for him.
Starting point is 00:28:13 He wasn't right for her. They get with different partners than I be damn. If it ain't happy ever after. It happens like that. It does. It absolutely does. And there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with a relationship not working for two people
Starting point is 00:28:30 and they go their separate ways. And they get with other people. and I'll be, I'd be damn. Yeah, you always get a different, you get a different version of someone else depending on who they win. Yeah. Every version ain't the same.
Starting point is 00:28:46 But you are also a different version because you're like, okay, but sometimes we got to do some self-checking now. I mean, look, I don't, every time my car start agging up, I don't just take it to the shop, I was like, okay, did I check my tie, did I run over a nail? Did I hit a parhole or cho? Hey, sometimes I have to do some self-exam.
Starting point is 00:29:03 You have to do some self-evaluating also. Because it's easy. Like, oh, she ain't want to do nothing. She ain't want to go nowhere. She ain't want to cook. She ain't want to dress up. She always in sweats. Yada, yada.
Starting point is 00:29:15 But what about you? Because you hit the door and you always, all you do is raise hell soon you get home. Uh-huh. Well, you can pick up too. Well, you can pick up too. So a lot of times you have to, you know, self-evaluate, like, okay, what could I have done differently?
Starting point is 00:29:33 Mm-hmm. And sometimes you're like, hey, I want this thing. I ain't going to do nothing differently because I want you to go. Hmm. But this is, this was an epic season for, Mocho. They, they, they. And that's what you have to. And that's the thing, Ocho, because you don't know if you're going to get back.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Oh, the Broncos are going to get back. Oh, the Patriots. Who said that? Who guaranteed that? Just because you were good. year, oh, you automatically think you're going to be good next year? No. I think people have been spoiled by the Patriots with Brady.
Starting point is 00:30:14 People have been spoiled by the Chiefs and Patrick Holmes and, you know, the wizardry they've had. The Eagles, obviously, as of late outside of this season and thinking it's very easy to always get back. It's so difficult. It's so difficult. This is New England's 12th trip to the Super Bowl and franchise history, but only the third without.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Velichick as the head coach and Tom Brady at quarterback. The Patriots are not 0 and 3 in those Super Bowls. They lost Super Bowl 20. What was that? 35, 10, I think, to the Bears, the 85 Bears, Ocho. They lost Super Bowl 31 to Brett Farr, and the Packers in 1996. And then they lost, obviously, they lost this one. With the Seahawks went over the Patriots tonight,
Starting point is 00:31:02 Chiefs remain the only team in the AFs to win a Super Bowl this decade. Damn. Seattle is the fourth NFC. team alongside the Buccaneers, Rams, and Eagle to win the Super Bowl in the 2020s. And the thing else, when they get beat, because last year, what's it called, got the brakes beat off them. The cheese got their eyes beat out. They lost the Tampa, beat their eyes out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:28 This one was, since they did make it close. I mean, that, you know, the 2016, no, show? Yeah, I got. I forgot 2116. might be 21-16. I'm not sure. I wonder who the entertainment is for the Seattle. Chat, do y'all know who the entertainment is?
Starting point is 00:31:52 Because a lot of times. Who performed y'all party, Ocho? You probably didn't even go. Which party? At the Super Bowl, after the game. Oh, I'm not sure. I'm not. Oh, after or half the game?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Man, we know bad money to perform at halftime. What the hell are you talking about? Hey, hey, hey, how'd you like it? I didn't understand that one word, but the production and the visual effects? Oh, yeah, the visual, yeah. It was nice. It was nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I mean, I mean, listen, I mean, if you would hit me, I could explain, you know, what he was saying, but it was dope. It was dope. I enjoyed it. I mean, you think a lot of people complaining, oh, why didn't go back where you come from? He's America, Puerto Rico, the part of America. That's, I'm doing. on Joe? Where were these people when you two
Starting point is 00:32:44 performed? What part of America are you two from? What about the Rolling Stones? Did the Rolling Stones? Hold on, chat. You all look, tell Mr. Rolling Stone there performed. What about Paul McCartney? Come on, man. You know, I know. I know. I know. I just don't understand. I mean, we're all about, you know, cultural diversity and having everyone else having a chance. And we've had
Starting point is 00:33:09 every different type of performer at our half. I'm not sure what the problem is. I mean, it shouldn't be a problem. Enjoy it, especially when to come to Latin music, listen, if you don't understand the words, hey, forget not knowing the words. It's a vibe. Enjoy the music.
Starting point is 00:33:24 No matter what you think of him, he's the most popular artist in the world. The NFL is trying to go global. I don't know if you notice, but look at those games where they got games at next year. None of those games. They're in Rio. They're in Australia.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They're all over the place. Hey, I was in jamming, boy. Hey, I'm looking at the visual. I say, okay, you play into your heritage. I like that. They got the snow cones and they got to play in dominole's and the women getting the nails done. I was like, okay, I'm feeling it.
Starting point is 00:33:55 And the funny thing about it, if you notice all the flags, if you notice all the flags, they pay tribute to everybody. I'm watching. They pay everybody. I'm not sure. I mean, I hate that.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Let me tell you what I hate. Because they quick, they quick if they don't like something, to say, okay, boycott this. We're not going to watch. We're not going to watch. But if somebody outside of this boycott something, they say, get that's un-American. Get them out of here.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Well, if you ain't liked bad bunny, leave. Anybody that didn't like Bad Bunny leave. That's their favorite quote. Yeah. Yeah. You know me. My taste in music, I mean, my genre and taste of music, I'm all over the place. I like bad bunny.
Starting point is 00:34:42 hell I like Leonard Skinner. I don't give it down to the Easter Bunny. I'm watching halftime show. I don't give it damn. I'm watching it. So what am I supposed to? I get it, Ocho. It's the biggest stage.
Starting point is 00:34:55 I'm going to watch because, look, it's regular season game, Ocho. We ain't nobody watching no halftime. I mean, how many times do I need to see a dog catch a frisbee, a monkey ride a dog, a small kid, four and five, six years old playing football? I'm cool. I see juggling.
Starting point is 00:35:11 When it comes, when it comes, when it comes to a halftime show at the Super Bowl, I'm going to watch it. Right. I am. So I don't care if you didn't like it. I liked it. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And speaking of music, too, right? I'm excited. Every time February comes around, I get happy. Obviously, you know, I went to the World Cup draw, not the long ago, and I held up to play. And, you know, I haven't missed Andrea Pachelli. Come to Miami in February in a very long time outside when COVID hit. That's where I'm going.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I'm going to see Andrea Bichelli. Where? Guess where I'm going? Where are you going to see you? Ralea. Oh, you can, so you, Oh, he's going to be in North Carolina? Yeah, he's in Ralea, February 20th.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Damn. February 20th. He's in Miami. He's in Miami, like, towards Valentine's Day, but I'm doing something with all the kids. They don't like, they definitely don't like that. I'm not. They don't know about no opera.
Starting point is 00:36:06 No, no, no, no, so I'm excited. Oh, bad. That was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. Look, I like, the game, Ocho. Yeah, I want, yeah, sure. I mean, I mean, all things being equal, what we want, Ocho. We won 29, 28. That'd have been great, too. But you got what you got. You got two outstanding defenses and the team's other quarterback, he was a second year guy and he looked like a second year guy. And those rookie offensive linemen that they had on the left side looked like rookie offensive lineman. I don't know what you expect. Y'all better stop thinking there, but just because you got to pay your uniform mode, you're going to be damn Tom Brady. You're not. Not. Tom Brady is one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You ain't going to ever see Tom Brady again. So I hope you enjoyed it. Y'all think what the Patriots did was easy. It's not. Tom made it look easy. I was just going to say it. It's not easy to win, especially on that big stage
Starting point is 00:36:59 and because as much as you tell yourself it's a regular game, you are a damn fool if you believe that. Ain't no regular season. Tell me what the regular season of your game that you all got two weeks to prepare for. And then you leave a week before to get down there. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:17 You know what this is? I, you know, look, I was very fortunate. I was in three of these games and I won them all. And I know what it feels like to lose, come playoff time and the further you go, the more it hurts when you lose. That's just the way it is. And if something that matters to a boy, if something matters, if something means something to you,
Starting point is 00:37:40 and you put invested your hard-earned time and effort into it, the more you've invested, the more that it hurts. I can just imagine losing this game. The whole world watching, Ocho. Hundreds of millions of people are watching this game. All your home boys might not be watching the regular season game, won't you? They might not be watching a playoff game. But this game...
Starting point is 00:38:06 They're going to watch. They watch it, Ocho. got all your family. You don't speak, Buku, Bucu money. Yeah. Flights.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Because I took my family, it was pre-COVID. I mean, pre-9-11. Ticket was high as your raft. And you got to pay for the hotel, Locho.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mom, sister. You know, sister-in-law, all them people coming. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Kids. Worst though. Girlfriend. My cousin. Yeah. You know it hurt worse, especially to be a patriot, right, to have a like you had, and then jog back to all the work you put in to the point. Training camp, all-season program, mini-camp, going into the season, having a great season,
Starting point is 00:39:00 starting off one and two, even starting off one or two, doing what's necessary to have a winning season, getting through the playoffs and getting to the big dance, and all the work you put in not turning into what you wanted. That has to be the worst. And there's no guarantee you. You can get back to this going again. There's no guarantee.
Starting point is 00:39:21 No guarantee whatsoever, Ocho. No guarantee. And if you play this game, you understand it. You understand just how fortunate you are to be in this position. And that's why I say, look, guys, I don't need you to be the reason why we win, but I don't need you to be the reason why we lose.
Starting point is 00:39:37 understand what this game is for. This game is for you, the festivities. Man, we won the game, Ocho. I think we might have stayed to the party. Man, we was out. We wanted everybody to see us. You know, you agree, because we deferred with Ocho. You don't agree, but you know,
Starting point is 00:39:55 they had just won the Super Bowl a year before. And they come back. They got the reigning Super Bowl MVP on their team. They tried the big boys. We see them out. You know, we see them out. Hey, guys, how y'all do you? do it. Yeah. Good game. You know, I think, you know, that's not what you do,
Starting point is 00:40:12 Houcher. That what you do? Good game. I ain't get a chance. I ain't get a chance to tell you because they rope the field off. Y'all had to get your last off the field. So I want to get, take time round. Good game, fellas. Yeah, good game. See y'all next year. Well, we're going to be back in here next year. Y'all won't. Right. Oh, yeah. But, uh, Seattle, to the victor go to spoils. So whatever they say, so. Ain't nothing you can say. I mean, I can just imagine that press conference after with Ocho, they get you okay. All right. You got to go to the podium and they ask you all the questions, what happened?
Starting point is 00:40:46 You watch the game? They had 12. They called them the 12s. I felt like they had 12 men on the damn field. They called them the 12 for real. Bad Bunny's halftime performance. This was incredibly cool. A source familiar with Bad Bunny's performance thought it tells me a lot that the couple in the halftime show got
Starting point is 00:41:07 married for real. They invited Bambunny to their wedding and in turn he invited them to get married doing his halftime performance. I was like, I was like, what, damn.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I didn't, obviously, I didn't think it was real. I thought it was a part of the performance because it, it transitioned so well with everything that was going on. You know, I mean, her acting surprise
Starting point is 00:41:32 and him getting on his knee, I thought it was part of the choreography. I'm looking, I was like, well, damn. That was real. I'm like, that's, Where did they get all this stuff from? I see why it took him so long.
Starting point is 00:41:41 This was the longest game. The game was like four hours, oh, Cho? Yeah, because of the halftime show. I was like, look, like I said, I didn't understand one word he was saying. Right. Production and visual effects. Visuals, yeah, the visual was good.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Very good. And around the world, I understand what the NFL is trying to do. he's the most popular singer in the world. No matter what you think of it, he is American. Last I checked Puerto Rico was a U.S. territory, so they get U.S. citizenship. Last I checked, I mean, I could be wrong,
Starting point is 00:42:19 my history major, you know, my history minor and might be failing me right now. But at last I checked, it was a territory of the U.S. and they get citizenship. With that being said, man. It was dope.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Yeah. Yeah. That music like that, man, it connects, it connects and brings us all together, especially if you want to be a part of it. Yeah, and if you have an open mind too. You got to have open mind. Some people are really close-minded. Even if you don't understand what he's saying, the music, the music, you become one with the music and you just vibe, on? I know, you know how to sauce.
Starting point is 00:43:02 You know how to maré, machete, machete, move your feet, and just catch the groove and just go. I mean, like, okay, you don't understand what he's saying? So what? You just mood or what you? Like, come on, man. They got upset with the Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogging and performing the halftime show. You're going to, look, everybody's not going to be happy.
Starting point is 00:43:18 People got upset with Maroon 5, and people got upset with this group and, uh, uh, uh, what, cold play and, uh, bro. You can't make everybody happy. You're not going to make everybody happy. You're just not. So I think the best thing in the NFL is like, look, invite who you think.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Look, yeah, sure. was great. Usher was unbelievable. Yeah. Rihanna. I bet, look, I don't have, look, I'm watching. I don't give a damn moody trot out there.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You can say, come on, entertain. Yeah. But I don't know. Who? Who? Who? I just want to know.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Who would y'all like to see them perform the halftime show? I know who you won't. I know who you won't. But you're mad at her now because she's not on your side. Taylor. they won't be yeah but she's not on their side they're somebody boycott her why what she do
Starting point is 00:44:17 they know they know what they do they know what she did but with that being said yeah so all right let's say it besides tay swift super bowl's in l a year matter of fact bowl is on valentine's day super bowl is on valentine day next year the game falls on valentine day who would you like chat who would you like to see perform super bowl in l. next year. Does it have to be someone? I'm going to have that argument again? No, no. I'm going to see Super Orleans and everybody wanted Lou Wayne, so now it's in LA. Does that mean we want, what?
Starting point is 00:44:49 Who performed a half-time show last year? I don't have a got that quick. In Louisiana? Damn, I forgot who it was. I know they was upset. It was a Wayne because it was in Florida. Hey, Chad, who was a Super Bowl performer last year? I don't know who it was. I forget. Oh, Kenji, Lamar.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Oh, that's right. show it's your what. Matter of fact, what about Chris Brown? They, oh, bro, then won't you let that man perform me the Grammys. Listen, okay, you're right. You're right. But I'm just saying, as a performer.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Oh, yeah, for sure, 1,000. As a performer. Yeah, for sure. Yes, yes, yes. He entertained him from stuff from, from, yeah. Yeah, I agree. You get no pushback from me. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And he's just coming off a tour, one of the highest grossing tours at that. Well, Tell us they have to go back on tour. And to see him in L.A. He lives in L.A. I'm sure he would love to do it. And the thing is, I mean, you're paying for it out your own pocket.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Uh-huh. I mean, Bad Bunny did him a favor because he don't get nothing out of this. What does he get? He's already the biggest artist in the world. Yeah. He had the most popular. He had the most popular album last year.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Got another. He's most popular right now. So what does he get? Right. Some, you know, some, you know, like Taylor, what does Taylor Swift get out of this? Beyonce did him a favor because Jay Z is responsible for bringing the, but what if he get?
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. Hey. I mean, I would love, I would love to see Chris Brown perform. That'd be nice. I'm trying to, I'm trying to think who. I saw Prince in person in 2000 when he was in Miami. You were cutting up in your rain. I saw Beyonce in New Orleans when the pile went out.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Oh, the 49th game. Yeah. Raven, Raving, 49 is game. I don't know. Hey, it doesn't matter who you. There's got to be somebody. There's got to be some people upset. I'm trying to think, well, that's on Jay Z.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's why Jay Z get the big bucks to decide who's going to do it. You got to make sense. Maroon 5 in Atlanta ain't make no damn sense. Who do you? You don't like Maroon 5? In Atlanta? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Let's stay with me. Yeah, I like room 5. Maroon 5, Creed, Hoobestank. But that's up. My alley. Now we're talking. Now you're talking my kind of business. Oh, look.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Hey, Chad. Y'all know about who was think? You know by Creed? Yes, I know Creed. Oh, hey, boy. Whoo-hoo. Now we're talking. Bruno Mars
Starting point is 00:48:01 did Super Bowl 48 in New York so Bruno Mars is unbelievable in concert I don't know if anybody's ever saw Bruno Mars in concert Bruno Mars is unbelievable unbelievable
Starting point is 00:48:18 so I know it's going to be a topic of discussion tomorrow a lot of people are going to like it it was in Spanish it was this it was that that man could have sung, that man could have sung every
Starting point is 00:48:36 song in English. The mere fact that he was from Puerto Rico rub some people the wrong way. That's what that was about. Yeah. Ocho, let's check out on our Super Bowl winning, who won our ticket, Ashley Owens giveaway winner. Check this out, Ocho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Thank you, Ocho, Miko. Thank you, Dan Morgan. For telling me the Super Bowl for a once-in-a-time opportunity. Hey, that's dope. Hey, that's dope. Congratulations, Ashley. Glad you had a great time. Glad your team won. Dan Morgan from Morgan to Morgan.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Thank you for blessing those with those tickets to give away. I'm sure our audience really, guys, I can't believe. We had two guys and y'all stunk it up. Y'all let this lady come up there. Hey, she killed the answer too. She did. She killed it and explained it in depth so we can understand it. And the other two gentlemen, they fumble, man.
Starting point is 00:49:42 They fumble. Congratulations. ass though, man. That was dope. Hey, we need to do that more often, huh? Huh? We need to do that more often. I beg your pardon? We need to do that more often, giving stuff away
Starting point is 00:49:56 to the fans. That's, you know, even if we're not at a live show, like just randomly each night, you know, give away, you know, maybe prizes or just something. Okay. I don't know, no TVs, a car, do shit like Oprah did. No? What do you think? Chat, when y'all like that, chat?
Starting point is 00:50:14 and win the car. We ain't got sponsors like Oprah. Oh, they come and don't worry about it. Oh, they're going to come. Because the product is what it is. The product sells itself. We damn, they like blue magic, an American gangster. From seeing goes to the trophy,
Starting point is 00:50:34 Seahawks' Sam Darnell is not a Super Bowl winning quarterback. How did you feel about Sam Darnell winning the Super Bowl, Lord Cho? I was happy, y'am. I was happy because I understand the story. I understand life. I understand everything he's been through. You know, how it started.
Starting point is 00:50:49 off going to the Jets. Obviously, most of the time when you go early, the expectations is a huge burden on your shoulder. And then you go to the New York media. You know how it is they have to deal with the New York media. He spent three years there. It didn't work out. He had a stop in Carolina. He had to stop in Minnesota, I think the stop in Minnesota were kind of the writing on the wall. I mean, a blind man can see this is the quarterback for us. And they still let him get out the door. I still don't get it. And most of the time, it's all about situations. You go. to the right situation with the right people around you, especially an organization that is built for winning and has a competent GM and competent structure from top
Starting point is 00:51:29 to bottom, this is what you get. What you get? You know, we don't talk about Sam Donner in the conversation that being top five. We don't talk about him with the Joe Burroughs, the Lamar Jackson, the Josh Allen, the Pat Mahomes, the Jaylon Hertz, but now we have to. Now he enters those conversations. We'll talk about some of the better quarterbacks in the NFL. And it's so funny, not that far removed,
Starting point is 00:51:50 we thought he was a bus when he was in New York. Well, he was. I mean, let's not sugarcoat it out. He was. He had more picks than touchdown. Now, I think the thing is Ocho was so satisfying for him is that three teams gave up on him. The Jets gave up on him. Carolina gave up on him.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Minnesota after he won 14 game, gave up on him. And the 49 is because they got Brock Purdy. I mean, I'm not so, look, I'm not, I think Sam Darnan, he won the Super Bowl. I mean, all things be equal, would you take Brock Purdy? I mean, I mean, Purdy has been, how many? No, he's been to one soup bowl. Remember, he tore his shoulder off the bone in the championship game against, uh, really, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:33 He got to be satisfying to him. To be so highly touted coming out of college and have three teams give up on you and to finally find that redemption. And no matter what, Ocho, I don't care. It takes somebody believing in you. As great as Tom Brady was, it took Coach Belichick believing in him because they kept four quarterbacks, which is unheard of on an active roster.
Starting point is 00:53:05 They kept four. Because Coach Belichick saw something, say, I just need, he's not ready right now. Right. But I think if we can keep him in our system. Something in him. I think we got something, guys. I think we got something.
Starting point is 00:53:21 he believed in him. Sam Darner just needed somebody to believe in him and get with a competent organization. Ain't nobody thought, ain't nobody been, ain't nobody ever, tell me one person that used dissent in a sentence,
Starting point is 00:53:38 just incompetency. Chad, have y'all ever heard that? No. It's truth and fiction. Truth has to make sense. Fixing has to make sense. There ain't no way that,
Starting point is 00:54:05 oh, Joe, you can't write no script like this. You can't write a script like this, now, Ocho. Not like this. Hold on not, not- The man said he saw ghosts. Ocho, you remember you there that point? I saw, I saw a ghost. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Huh? What you were in scary movie? What you mean? You saw a ghost? Right. He was scratching his head and his eyes got big. I'm like, well, damn. I don't know, Cah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Football might not be for you. I don't know. Listen, if you were to tell the Sam Donald's story, right? If you didn't watch football, how he got drafted, he went his success at USC and what happened at New York, line in San Francisco, Minnesota, and then they would think it's a movie. Yes. Oh, this is a Hollywood movie.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Hollywood movie. I like it. But the fact that this is actually a real story, A redemption story at that. It's dope. It's dope. Hey. If you want to beat Seattle, you better be able to run the football.
Starting point is 00:55:19 Got to. You got to be able to run the football. And it starts up front. If you ain't got them boys up front, so you're able to run the football. It ain't happened. No. Oh, Joe. Who deserves more credit?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Mike McDonald or Sam Darnel? Mike McDonald or Sam Darnel. Oh, Mike McDonald, yes, but probably Sam Donald Because if Sam Donald's not there, I don't think they're in the Super Bowl As great as their defense is As great as their defense, if you don't have San Donald I don't think they're there I'm going to lead towards the quarterback also
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah, I don't think you're there. Hell, look at the Broncos defense Without quarterback. No Bo Neck, you see what happens. Bo Necks gives you your best chance to win, even though you have a great defense. Bo Nix goes down as great as your defense is, you still fall short.
Starting point is 00:56:09 You can't overcome that. It's hard to overcome in-up quarterback play. It really is, Ocho. And no matter how great your defense is. I mean, what did Drake make throw for last week? Two weeks ago, 86 yards? And they won the game.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. They won the game. Yeah. He made, and Sam Darnham made enough throws. I mean, he would, he, to go on the road and make the throws that he had to make against San Fran. And then, you know, to beat.
Starting point is 00:56:43 I'm trying to think who did they beat in the first round of the play in the divisional round of the playoffs but anyway and then to take care of the Rams in the NFC championship game yeah kicker they
Starting point is 00:57:01 look their special teams were great because think about the special teams what Rahis Shaheed did against the Rams on that Thursday night game think about what he did against the 49ers in that playoff game think about how many times the punter pinned them down
Starting point is 00:57:15 think about how many big kicks that the kicker made. They're special teams. Special team, you know, you don't really think. They call them special for a reason. And for the most part, Ocho, you know we practice them. We give them a little five, ten minutes spot here or there. We interrupt, practice, go and get five minutes. All right, get your ass out to field.
Starting point is 00:57:33 And here we come back with offense and defense. You don't really notice them until you get a punt block, one return on you, or things like that, you miss a kick. And then you're like, man, damn. But Seattle was really, really good. They were great defensively. They got better and better offensively.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And special teams-wise, the addition of Rashid Rahid took their team to a whole different level. Took it to a whole different level, Joe. And that was the difference in the ball game tonight, Seattle. Drake May. How do you want to assess his performance, oh, Joe? his performance wasn't good tonight.
Starting point is 00:58:17 He wasn't good tonight. It wasn't good tonight. I mean, for the most part, in the playoffs, he didn't really look like himself. He didn't look like the Drake made we've seen throughout the season. Obviously, the offensive line didn't play well, didn't make any better for him, especially being able to pick up the blitz to make sure he was comfortable.
Starting point is 00:58:34 They made him so uncomfortable being a rookie quarterback. When he did have time, he made Aaron throws, you know, when he had time and he had people open. outside of that he's only in his second year that's the good thing he's only in his second year and he showed huge improvements from his first to his second year so this is a learning experience for him you know know what it takes to get to this point now that i've already been here i can continue to build the blocks off of this with the season we've had i can go back i can watch film i can see some things that teams did to me that made me i'm comfortable so when i'm back in a situation like this again
Starting point is 00:59:09 I know I'd handle it. When I see certain looks again, I already know what's coming so I can recall what I've already seen and be better prepared for it. So I think he's going to. The New England Patriots found their quarterback of the future. And I'm sure they will be back in this position again, especially having Mike Brable as a coach who set the standard. It's going to continue that, that patriot way that we always talk about of structuring discipline and playing good football on both sides of the ball. So they're going to be fine, but Drake may, you know, my salute to him. Hats off to him because he's, you know, one of the reasons why they even made it to the Super Bowl to begin with.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I agree with you, but they need to go get him a big time receiver. He's not to the stage right now, Ocho. He's only 23 on the second year where he can elevate people. He need a big time receiver that can help elevate him. Right. Look, you don't really. realize how special a guy has to be to raise the temperature in the room. Ain't a whole lot,
Starting point is 01:00:14 ain't a whole lot of guys that you can say, you can put them on a team and said, okay, he'd make this team better. Go get him some help. The guys you got, they're fine. Go get your stud.
Starting point is 01:00:29 If you can go trade for A.J. Brown, go get it. I call the Cowboys. What y'all want to do with George Pickers? We'll get you a cup. Go get him. Yeah. I don't,
Starting point is 01:00:42 I don't know who's available on the fridge at as far as wide receivers, Ocho. Maybe there's a guy, I don't know a whole lot about what's available in the draft, but they need one. Right. They need one. They do. They got guys.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Tom can win with guys. Right. Everybody can't just win with guys. That's what I would go get. I think defensively they're good. I like Chase-on. I like Milton Williams, like Barmore, Jennings. I don't know what they don't do with Jennings.
Starting point is 01:01:21 He's solid, very good, very good at a run defender. I'll go get me another pass rush or two. You can't have enough of them, Mocho. Yeah, pass rushes? Oh, listen, the better depth you have, I mean, the better depth you have, especially as past rushers, and you can keep them boys fresh and always rotating,
Starting point is 01:01:42 that's a beautiful thing. And, uh, offensive line. you guys got to get better. Look, you took Will Camel with a top five pick. If I'm not mistaken, I think he's a top five pick, Ocho. I know he's top ten. But he's got to get better. That's not good enough.
Starting point is 01:01:57 That's not good enough. And like I said, I'm going to chalk a lot of this up because I saw him play early and he played better than this. And maybe, you know, coming back for the stretch run. But Ocho, he had problems with Will, I mean, and look, the guy that he's going up against, they're not slouches.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Will Anderson was an all-pro. Benito was in the Pro Bowl. Those guys that he was going up against the night, they're very good. But you got to be able to shut, you got to be able to turn somebody's water off. You can't let them beat you up to field. You can't let them turn, generate speed to power
Starting point is 01:02:31 and overtake you. I know, I hear all the, you know, they talk about, you know, he got a little T-Rex arms and stuff his arms and, you know, he's letting everybody get too close. I don't know about his arm. Tunch Elkin, with 6-2
Starting point is 01:02:45 offensive tackle for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Unless he had John Jones' arms, 84-inch reach, right. He just got to get better, Ocho. He's got to get better. Who knows? Maybe he's better suited at a guard.
Starting point is 01:03:02 But if you're going to play that, you got to be that boy dog to stand on that island. And left tackle? Yeah. Yeah. That's the money spot. He's got to get,
Starting point is 01:03:16 better. They've got to get better up front. Oh, Cho. Um,

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