Club Shay Shay - Best of Track World Athletics Championships Part 1: Fred Kerley goes OFF on USADA + Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone setting records
Episode Date: September 20, 20250:00 - Fred Kerley Joins the show28:03 - Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone sets American record38:49 - Cordell Tinch wins 100M Hurdles 39:46 - Isaac Nader wins 1500M (Timestamps may vary based on adverti...sements.) #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, Ocho, we got a very, very special guest joining us.
This guy has done something that very few track and field men in the track and field game
has ever done.
He's one of the few men that has run sub 44 into 400 meters, run sub 198 into 200 meters,
run sub 980 into 100 meters.
He's a world.
champion in the 100 meters. He's an Olympic silver medalist in the
100 meters. And I think he won the, he's on the
World Relay Team. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Fred
Curley. Fred, what's going on?
Thank you on mute, Fred.
Can you hear me? Yeah, we got to die. Hey. We got to die. What's going on,
what? Chilling, chilling, chilling. Can't complain.
Uh, let's start with this.
You watch Sid today, 4778, two women, I mean, think about it.
You had to go, and to get on, basically to get old, you got to run one of the 10, 11 fastest
times ever for a woman just to get on the podium.
How impressive what you saw Sid do.
Basically, she said this year, I'm done with the hurdles, I'm not doing the hurdles.
I'm focusing on the four flat with the, and her sole purpose is to take that world record
down, many thought was untouchable.
How impressive, how impressed are you with what she's doing for a head?
I think it's crazy.
It's something that I have not done and been done in 39 years
and have somebody great at her to accomplish that is amazing.
And I feel like she still can go faster.
She's just still young and just the open four.
Her baby is the 400 hurdles,
but there's no telling what she can do in the open four.
I feel like she can go even below what she did.
I feel like she's still young at it.
Her body's still young.
I feel like she can do some, still can do some amazing.
and stuff in that open 400 meters.
You believe she can go sub 47-5?
I feel like she can go faster than that.
I feel like, yo, it's Sydney we're talking about.
Yes.
You know, so she got talent that, I don't think.
No woman on this earth have got or no woman have discovered yet.
I feel like she's amazing.
So every time she trusts her track, it always have been a world record in her young days.
So I feel like the sky is the limit.
I feel like she still got a lot more in the tank.
I feel like that 47 where she ran was the chill mode, really.
Hmm.
When you look at it, Fred, I think a part of it,
because they're talking now that maybe,
and Bobby, Bobby Cursey, he coached Flojo, Gail Devers.
Gail Devers was a two-time Olympic 100-meter champ.
We know what Flojo is.
We don't need to say anything.
Valerie Briscoe, at the time, she married her hooks,
and now she's Valerie Briscoe hooked.
He was the first to do the double to four-two in 84.
in L.A. Last time the Olympics were in L.A.
Guess what? In 28, the Olympics
going to be in L.A. Could you see
Bobby Kersey going to the Olympic
Committee says, look, we want to do something
unprecedented. The only thing that they can do
unprecedented is the 4-4.
I feel like she always can do anything, but
hey, if the time frame
presentable, I feel like any
and no telling what the
Olympic Committee can do for any of us.
Right.
Right.
You watch, I mean, I don't know how much
Are you watching the World Championship?
I watch YouTube University or Twitter University.
I get all the news when everything come on them channels.
I'm not watching live.
How surprised are you with the way Oblix Seville has run this year,
ended up winning the World Championship 100 meters.
He caught Kashane.
Kachane always gets a great start.
I was surprised how easy Seville made it look.
Noah got the bronze, but Noah didn't have a whole lot of races.
is handicapped what you saw
and what you think happened.
I don't think I was so much surprised about the race.
He's been showing it since I race them in Jamaica.
It's all about peeking at the right moment.
A lot of athletes have not race in September.
They end their season in August each year.
So every time you end your season early,
you don't get that extra boosts.
And what I saw in the 100 meters,
I feel like he was always capable of doing it.
He just ended up short-handed.
And this year he showed what it was.
And for Noah, I feel like I don't think he was so much
concentrating on 100 this year.
I think he was so much concentrating on the 200.
He lost the 200 last year.
And I feel like he wanted his revenge.
The 200 is baby.
I feel like he won't the 200 more than 100.
Yeah, I think so, too.
To be a four-time, I mean, he's already three-peded,
so now he wants the four, something that no man on the track has ever done.
Well, you say, I think you say it's done for 200.
Because he got decued and, I think, he got decued in 2011.
That was just 100.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, let's talk about you.
Yes, sir.
You had a whereabout violation that you was possibly contesting.
I don't know if you're still going to contest that.
I'm still contesting.
I ain't doing no wrong, so my people are still fighting for all that.
Okay.
But they said you're the first, if I'm not mistaken,
track and field athlete to be a part of the enhanced games.
Yes, sir.
And enhance means break a world record with enhancing.
I mean, obviously, you're under protocol.
If you're trying to fight to say, well, you know what, I did nothing wrong.
This was just a whereabout.
I mean, I'm sorry I didn't give you, say, I was in Miami and I was supposed to be in L.A.
Or I was in the Bahamas and I was supposed to be over here.
Why would you take this deal?
Why would you do the enhanced game?
Come test me.
You know what I'm saying?
Come test me.
I'm not tripping.
You can come to my house any second, any minute, any hour.
Come text me.
I'm not worried about no mistest, no nothing.
Come test me.
I've been clean my whole entire career.
you should come text me.
Only thing by signing up to this game,
make money, protect my future.
Equity is everything.
Ownership is everything for me.
And they did the exact job.
I got ownership.
And a lot of track athletes,
when they get done with this sport,
they don't got nothing to go home to.
I've been to two Olympic Games
and been world champion, right?
So for me, my understanding is
I got family to feed.
I'm going home.
You know what?
guess what if I go call somebody asked
to tell me to give it $200K, go get a job.
I ain't never had no job.
You know what I'm saying?
The only thing I know is my feet.
Running.
Run.
You know what I'm saying?
So nobody's going to tell me how to make money
and protect my family.
My bloodline depending on me.
I'm the first one to make it out.
And my whole job, it continues to,
if I make $100 million,
I'm going to continue to make $100 million each and every year.
So my whole job to protect my bloodline.
So explain to me, tell me this,
for it.
So tell me how to wear.
Whereabouts, do you, okay, so you give them locations of where you're going to be, they call you, or do you put something in right at the beginning of the year and says, okay, this is my, I have a residency here in Texas. I have a residency in Florida and I have X, Y, and Z. So how did the whereabouts, how does this work? So whereabouts is basically we fill out each quarter. They got to know all your location. They got to know if I'm here, where they got to know everywhere. So, so basically every quarter you feel out where you're going to be. But the problem with that, you never know what you're going to be.
Okay.
Life is life.
So it's just like, you just got to give them an hour.
They come after hour sometimes.
They come when they want to.
Simple as that.
So basically, for me, it just feel like I'm in prison.
My dad been in jail.
My dad been to prison.
He's still on parole.
He don't got to do half of the shit I'm doing to maintain a paycheck.
Right.
Hey, uh?
Yeah.
Hey, Fred, that basically that's the same thing with us in the offseason, no?
It don't matter where you are.
They always have a test where you at?
Yes.
Man, I don't like that.
It don't matter.
We ate Fred.
But I remember one off season, it might have been after that 2005-2006 season.
It didn't matter where I was.
So, you know, the problem with the problem with football and track, y'all still maintain
your contract.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
We don't.
No?
No.
Oh, so in other words, you only, you own.
Once you get to spend it, you get no money.
Like, USATF, spend my medical stuff.
So what's somebody like me to, like, I'm got to get money regardless.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, we don't get nothing, like, track and field not paying me, sponsorship paying me.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So.
Have you lost any of your endorsements?
I don't got no endorsements.
So what people are talking about is make money at all costs and protect my kids.
Wow.
So I don't care what, yo, I don't care what nobody say.
They're not feeding none of them.
They're not even feeding me.
So let me ask you this.
You said you want a chance to push your limits.
So you say they can come test you now.
You know if you take part of this, Fred, you're probably going to get a lifetime ban.
Yo, yo, yo, guess, hey, guess what?
It's someone happening.
Go on do what you got to do.
Hey, just like they got people, I got people.
And I'm blessed.
And I'm highly favor of the man above.
I like it.
Do you think if you were to go,
go ahead and take this process.
How do you think Fred Curley is going to be remembered?
Because like I said, Fred, there's not a whole lot of men.
I mean, you're an NCAA champ.
You went to the 400.
I'm still in a test and pool.
Okay.
I'm still in the regular government body testing pool.
Okay.
So let me ask you a question.
Do they do blood and urine?
They do both.
I just got a piss test today.
I'm not tripping.
Yeah.
You're going to be good.
You're going to be good.
You're going to be good.
You see the problem?
I feel like the problem is they're scared to pay the athletes.
You know what I'm saying?
So they can't control us when you're trying to make other form of income.
You know what I'm saying?
So if they can't control what you got in your pocket,
how they're selling that you got the coaches and stuff making more than the athletes?
Wow.
You got agent making more than the athletes.
You got president making more than the athletes.
is they protecting the athletes
you got at least that can get
sponsorship you got at least that
working the job to
maintain their livelihood
yeah
so at the end of the day it's
protecting myself because they don't care about me
it don't matter how much money I make
with endorsements that stuff end
right
and without endorsement
we're not surviving
right
So let me, so what's, what's routine paid for a diamond league?
They say, well, Fred, we want you to come contest the 100 meters.
What, what, what, what, what, what does the, what does the, what does the guy?
Obviously, Usain Boat with a spatial circumstance.
I feel like, I feel like every year been different.
Everything been, like, I can't tell you on a day-to-day are, it's wherever the meat got, or whatever to meet,
um, think is the main event of that champion.
Oh, okay.
So, I can't, like, every, every, every, every,
meat is not the same.
Right.
Like, the only thing that's...
It might be the hundred.
It might be the hurdles.
It might be the 200.
It might be the 400.
Okay.
And I'm an American.
So America live different for Europeans.
Okay.
Like, we got to live.
You know what I'm saying?
Nobody coming to...
Nobody comes into my rescuing and asked me if I got this or got that.
Like, nobody care.
Like, people are going to live on their regular life.
If I go go dead broke right now, if I go, oh, no, I don't got it.
so it's protect my future protect my kids you know what I'm saying my legacy my legacy I did
everything in this sport I'm still doing everything in this sport so let me ask you this
you're still it you say you're still in you're still in the testing pool so now you didn't
go to the world so are you still training so what so what what is it now what do you do now
because basically I don't know if there's anything after the world and so the season is basically
over do are you getting ready for next are you going to do you're going to do
So world, so world, so I'm not, I'm suspended right now,
pre-bus suspended, so they, I'm still, because text in my, okay, okay.
Yeah, so I'm not basically banned as yet, but they suspended me for competition.
Okay.
So, right, my lawyer's fighting, fighting that.
So right now, I forever will be training.
I'm, so you just never stop doing what you do just because of this.
You never know, you always got to be prepared for what's coming.
Fred, let me ask you this.
Why did you, I mean, you're a great, you are a great, you were on pace to be one of the greatest 400 meters.
What made, what made you decide to go to the, what made you decide to drop down and do the 100?
See, like the, um.
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2019 actually changed every day.
My coach left me in 2019 to go get a degree overseas.
2020, I was allowed to coach.
2021, I was allowed to coach until like a couple of,
and that's when I moved to Miami and started training with Coach Joey.
And I was still doing 400 training, but 400 training,
you got to have somebody there just to push you.
The 400 just started getting them.
born. And then all of a sudden, I was just like, let me just try this. My ankle got rolled and stuff.
And then I was running on the hurt leg. And that's when God bless me. I said, I don't know what's
next. And then that's when the hundred just came. I ran 100 at a meet, I mean, a track meet in
Florida. And that's when repetition started becoming easing. And that's when I dropped my first
nine. And I'm like, I'm going to the limps. Yeah, I'm running a hundred at the Olympics this
year. And a lot of people
questioned me around me, even my coach
questioned me at the time. But at the end
of the day, I'm always going to believe in
my self-ability. I won't
get into something if I know I'm not going to
be good at it.
Because it's rare.
Now, we see people do the
four, drop down to the two, because of the
strength training, so you're really good. We see
people do the two drop down to the hundred.
I think, uh, what was
the guy? He went to LSU, Zavier.
He won the 400, 100.
Ex, ex-man.
Yeah.
He won the four and the one and the SEC at LSU.
Yeah.
And so he was having a promise.
So I didn't, I don't know if I've ever seen anybody do what you've done.
But it's the times that's most impressive.
To go sub-44, to go sub-198, to go sub-9-8.
But for me.
Do you know anybody else that's ever done that?
Oh, yeah, I do.
Besides yourself?
No, I don't know nobody.
But for me, it's just like, it's all about people tell me I can't.
I hate the world I can't.
That will make me want to do it even more.
Oh, you can't do this.
You can't do that.
Oh, like, I heard that plenty of time when I'm younger, so that's why I'm going to go do it.
Yeah.
And every time somebody say, I can't, I've been successful.
And, hey, you know what I'm saying?
So I can't complain about what God gave me in my heart to do.
He pushed me to greater things.
So when somebody said, I can't, that's when I'm going to.
to do it, just like I will mason, uh, Ocho Sinko, right now.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Oh, dude.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know why he ran South 44, right?
Well, you're chasing it.
Now, ask me who he trained with.
Yo, that was, yo, you came to the track like one or two, Tom.
Asked him who you trained with, huh?
He came like, you got him, Ocho, you see Brad to the phone.
Hey, flew by him.
Yo, you know what happened?
He started, he started training for bots and, you're bad.
because I beat him so bad.
Hey,
he flew by.
He was like,
I didn't know you was that fast
to beat this old.
I was like,
yeah,
I'm like that.
So if this band is lifted,
I don't think there's anything next year
but the USA's
and then there's the world's in the 27
and then you got the Olympics in 28.
So what is your immediate plans?
I'm still running.
I'm still running.
I got a salary.
Okay.
Yo, I got a salary.
I got equity.
company. So
I'm still running and still run
freely. You know what I'm saying?
You can't, people came to the dummy of my
success. Like, like I said, I
really miss no tests. All the
missed tests I meant, I would add track meat.
Okay.
So I'm not
caring about nothing what people say, but
people got to go into the details and stuff.
See, they're not popping people on drugs. They're popping
people with whereabouts. Yeah.
So they're not really doing their job.
And guess what? I
I got drug tests
the next day
after the no mist test.
I'm not caring
about no mist tests.
I know what's
really going down.
And we exclaimed
to them too.
Just because I'm on there.
Just because I'm...
Go ahead, Fred.
Go ahead.
Sorry to cut you off.
Go ahead.
Just because, like,
I had a rough year
and I can't complain.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like,
just got to do better.
either the situation they don't give you a heads up they just need you so they call you say an hour before
there's no calls oh they just pop up yeah there's no cause none of that they got they got to
say you see at least they let us know it's none of that it's none of that that's that's not fair
it's none of that too the problem is tracking fill are you not making no money that's how they make
their money. That's why UFC dropped them.
Yeah, the drug test. Yeah, the out of test.
So they're not really doing their due diligence and stuff with
everything.
I heard you keep saying Americans, Americans. Do you feel that this system is
set up to catch Americans while other countries possibly? Because everybody
don't test like the American get. Right now, I feel like we live
in a time where
that people, like, the OGs and stuff back in the day
fucked it up for us.
Sorry for Cussing, but they messed it up for us.
Okay.
How so?
You already know, just the O.G.
messed it up for us.
Okay.
So I don't care about getting tests.
You can test me every day, every minute, of the hour.
So it's just like, the OG messed up for us.
So in other words, it's like, those guys were like,
well, I wasn't there, and I'm sorry.
And so that's why they put the whereabout clause in,
because when they wanted the test guys
said, well, I was over here, I was over there.
So now they make y'all every quarter
so every three months, you guys got to feel like,
well, I'm going to be in Miami,
I'm going to be in L.A., I'm going to be in Texas,
I'm going to be in Georgia.
No, no, we got to give them every address.
If I go out to eat, I got to put that address in.
Like right now, I got to put this address.
Every minute, they can show up at two.
Oh, come on.
Now, they're doing too much.
Now, y'all ain't able to help me out.
Yo, I'm telling me, that's how it happened.
It's like we in prison.
Like, you got every hour, every,
Everywhere you go.
You got to do the training block.
You got to give them an hour.
If you leave the house to go down the street,
hey, they got to know everything.
And that's what people don't realize.
Like, you can come and test me any time,
but, like, filling this stuff out every minute, every second,
it's just like, bro, y'all doing too much
that's a value of privacy and stuff, too.
When we go overseas, we got to fill out every minute, every second, everywhere.
You know what I'm saying?
Everywhere you go.
If I go to a funeral right now,
they got to know where I'm at at the funeral.
People popping up at restaurants to test us.
People popping up at airport to test us.
Damn.
So it's basically like we're in a plantation.
Wow.
And the outside world don't know what's actually going on.
Because you got people that actually own the stuff
but never getting caught because they're getting paid off.
You got active cases right now in track and field
that you solder and water is not doing nothing about.
because they're getting paid off.
Damn, that's a pretty strong accusation, friend.
There's no as a fact. The facts is the facts.
Simple as that. And they know it.
They got cases going on right now.
You can come and test me any day over the week, and I'm not tripping.
I can show you my, my, my, yo, we get us,
every time we do a drug test, stuff come to my phone.
negative negative negative negative negative i'm not tripping have you thought about
transitioning the football you won't get a tested as much no baseball it's guarantee money
fred you ain't played basketball in 20 years you ain't fit to hit no pitch i've been playing
yo i don't got to you on yo i can play what you go fred what position you go play for you
center field you know they hit they hit in center field right yeah and my
Yo, you know my speed.
I know how to catch.
Hey, I know you here somewhere in this county where I'm at.
You can come check me out.
Hold on.
You can hit the ball?
Yes, I can hit the ball.
You in Miami now?
No, I'm not in Miami.
I'm talking to the unc.
I'm going to say, let go to the bad cage.
This weekend.
Are you going to be here?
Yeah.
Oh, you know, I was a five, too.
Like, you know, they were trying to rap.
Yo, you said you're good at everything.
No, I promise.
I promise.
No, the mall.
tried to draft me in 97 out of high school.
Y'all Florida guys, y'all got to stop.
Not for real.
Fred, that's like when I beat you when we was out there training.
Like, you was like, oh, Fred.
I know one of the greatest runners in America here.
I know you ain't letting this man come off the street and beat you, Fred.
I did.
You talk about Ocho, hey, he thinks he good at everything.
You see, what he thought he was about getting a soccer ticket, too.
Look at him.
Fred, you think you good at every day, man.
Fred, be honest.
Unk right here.
Now, I didn't beat you when we ran 250s.
I ain't never doing no $2.50 in training in years.
So what you're talking about?
What we was doing that day?
What were we doing?
I thought, what, 150?
We were doing something?
What were you doing?
I ran it with you.
I don't know.
What were you doing?
Whatever was, I blew by your ass.
I know that.
Yeah, I just want to know what we're doing.
I can't remember.
Hey, we can't line it up this weekend.
Oh, hey, I got my camera ready.
Well, bring your camera out.
I've been training.
I don't, you've been training?
Hey, you just, I just, I,
I'll train every day.
Yeah, you probably be like your glasses, wopsided when I get done with you.
Okay, okay.
Keep that same energy.
Matter of fact, I feel so good I give you five meters.
Huh?
Huh?
If you go, how you're going to do?
I'll give you 99 meters when we go on 100 meters.
What you're running on, Joe?
You want it been a 40?
You want 40, 60, 100, 200, 400?
You know what?
I don't want to handicap him.
I want to give him a chance to actually try to catch up.
So I'm, we'll go, we'll go 80 meters.
80 meters, how much you put?
The first four, the first 60, you done.
You ain't no chance.
The first six.
You can't even be T.O.
Hey, that's my dog.
That's my dog. That's my dog.
That's my dog.
Listen, I'm a different horse.
I'm a different thoroughbred.
I mean, I beat you.
You are a world-class athlete.
You're a world-class sprinter, and I smoked you.
And I'm just being honest in front of the people.
The world need to know.
I don't know.
The world need to know that you're the biggest cap
in the history of sports.
I ain't even got no.
I got a cap right here.
That's about it.
Fred, we're going to get you out of this one.
Handicap to 200 for us.
You got, hey, you got a,
Noah.
The Jamaican ran really good today.
He broke it down, but he looked really good.
And then you got, obviously, you got Tobogo.
You got Kenny Benarrett.
How you see the point?
podium.
Hmm.
The podium.
I feel like no one's going to take it.
Tobago second and
Jamaican third.
Wow.
Wow.
But I believe somebody's injured
and
out of three of them.
So I don't know.
Three of them look injured, but
hey, you never know.
You could tell
they injured by just by
watching. Yeah, I'm an athlete.
I'm like a track athlete.
So you can tell, you can tell
people forcing
their runs and stuff too.
Right, right.
So
those are four people going to be on
the podium regardless, but you never know.
Right. Right. So you
think, you think, and you think. I think no one's going to
take it because I feel
like he got something to prove.
Because what happened last year,
but you never know. Tobago
sneaky mother
man
Noah came out with the shorts today
I don't think I've ever seen nor running shorts
No one normally runs in the singlet
Now no one would be running the shorts
But I feel like he got something to prove
So I feel like we're going to see
Some nasty stuff in Tokyo
In a couple of hours
Wow
So you think you think he's still seething
From losing that 200 in the Olympics
Getting the Bronze
Because he really wants
I mean, the gold medal, I think the gold,
but like you said, the 200 is his baby.
And he has yet to get the medal,
he's stand the top of the podium at the Olympics.
And so he's like coming back, look here.
He's got something to prove.
Like, he got something to prove.
And definitely in the deuce.
I feel like he got something to prove.
And I feel like he's going to show the world
what Noah's always been Noah.
So I feel like he got something to prove and the two.
But Tobolgo always sneaky.
He probably is he probably faking like he got an
and just show up.
What kind of time you think you're looking at?
What, what, is he going, I mean, in 19, 50, he ran of 1951, which was the World League.
I feel like, they're going to be between 193 and 197.
Wow.
I feel like you're going to be something fast.
Wow.
Wow.
You're going to be something fast.
And I won't be surprised 192, but I feel like 193 to 197, those are going to be the winning times.
You think they're in that kind of condition?
I feel like, hey, that's his last race of the year.
He did what he got to do, and they got,
some of them probably jogs some of the races.
I feel like history always be determined when championship come.
The real dog come at championship,
and no approval over the years, he always show up.
So he's probably going to show up.
How do you like the women?
Sharica Jackson looked good.
She ran 2199.
You got MJ, Melissa Jefferson, a wooden.
I feel like Melissa is going to get.
I feel like Melissa going to win the 200.
She just get out.
Hey, she set some people up this year.
And so, like, I can't, like, my one is, like, that's her.
You know what I'm saying?
The other two, Shariqa is probably be on the podium.
And the third, I don't know about the third because it's all over the place.
Because, you know, we got some faces that fighting just to run some of them times in the semifinal.
Right.
all right friend thanks for joining us tonight we wish you the best of luck in your appeal of the
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They sold that?
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At the Colts Stadium.
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After nearly two decades, 19 years, Sonia Richards-Ross held the American record
into 400 meters at a time of 4870.
On the exact same day, 19 years ago, 19 years later, Sydney McLaughlin took it down.
In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship, McLaughlin clock 4829,
I think that's off Ashes the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th,
but it's the fastest time by the American.
She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.
Sid said she was shocked at the performance saying she wasn't expecting that.
That's a blistering time.
And she backed it down at the end.
Yeah.
Maybe I'm the only one in the lie that remember when Matarina Koch set the world record of 4760.
There have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48.
Cratchelova, who's an 800-meter runner, Ocho.
She ran 48-90, she ran 47-99, and then Coke ended up running 4760.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from Lane 2.
Now, Nassar has been down there.
I think she's 48-11.
I think Paulino, who's actually in this race.
I think she's run like 48-17.
Marie-Jose-Prette, the French,
lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.
She also won the 200
in Atlanta. She won the 4 and the 2.
I'm trying to think who else
has been a low time. They had this Russian
Brazina. She ran on the
88 team. I think
she was the one that held Flojo off.
If I'm not mistaken, no, Joe. My memory serves
me correct. They've been a few
Kathy Freeman.
They've been some great 400-meter runner.
Valerie Briscoe Hook, Kathy Freeman, Perrette, Nassar, Polino, Coke, Kratilova,
but Sidney McLaughlin, and she said something very interesting.
She said, look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 4760.
Because I don't think, I don't think understand what people understand just how fast that is for a woman.
That's booking.
You literally, she's going to, you're going to probably have to go out in 22 seconds.
and home and come home in 25, 25, 5.
Let that sink in.
Because normally they're going out in 23
and try to come home in 25.
She's going to have to go out in 22
and come home in 25 and a half.
She's got the people in the race that can push her.
Nasser takes the pace out.
Paulino liked the track.
She played with fire there and I almost didn't make it.
But we'll see what her left.
Sydney's fitness is impeccable.
I believe it's going to take low 48, 48-0,
or they might have to dip under 48
in order for it to win this gold medal.
Yeah.
When is that race?
Well, I think it's today already over there.
Well, today, well, it'll be tomorrow for us.
Because I think they're day ahead of us.
Yeah.
So it'll be Thursday for them.
So, yeah.
I mean, Sid, man.
And she told Lewis she wasn't expecting that.
Because, you know, normally, Ocho, I'm doing just enough to win to qualify.
Yep, the third lane.
And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer.
But to run 4829 and take 4.1.
off the American record, she was cruising, Ocho.
She was cruising.
She was cruising.
And see, this is why Femke,
Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles.
She ain't got the foot speed.
She got the foot speed.
Right.
I mean, what you're going to do?
What were you going to do with someone that can run 48 seconds?
I mean, it's going to be very impressive.
If she abandoned the hurdles and sets her,
site in 28 and
the open 4?
And she get the world record
and the 4 and the
and the 4 and the hurdles?
Yeah.
Lord.
Because I didn't think I didn't think in my
lifetime I would see somebody get this
Colt record. This record's 40 years old.
I thought that
also I mean nobody's come close.
There's only been two women in the history
that's ever run sub 48.
So what may and nobody's come close
like a, uh, uh, uh, uh, a
ran 4811 but she got popped right so like uh um correct when she ran when she ran
the french runner when she either doubled 400 there ain't been a whole lot of women to double
up i think uh shawnee miller webo i think she doubled up also um but also that's booking
that is booking very and i think people really don't understand
how fast it is and in reference you saying booking unless you watch track unless you know track
or you ran track and realize how hard it is to run is how hard it is to run a 50 second lap unless
that's a suspect to run 49 to run 48 for a woman yeah and then we talk about 47 if see it get
if see it break this world record that record might be like
boat you may have to go three four five about three generations before you see somebody break
that record or somebody see break it again because i think that's what's going to happen with boat
because we haven't seen we haven't seen anybody come close the closest anybody's ever come
was tyson gay and johan blake at nine sixty eight he was at nine fifty eight
hey well boat was moving in that race i still believe ocho had he not celebrated Beijing
Right, I'm hitting the chest.
He's low, he's low $9.50.
He might even go sub-950.
Ooh.
That, he broke the moment.
Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.
I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy to understand the moment.
I just wish he had ran through the tape.
I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time would have never been broken.
Nobody's ever, you'll have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you.
That's the one or two things.
You're on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you?
That's it.
But Sid, she's in phenomenal shape.
And I think it's going to take a special time.
I think it's going to be 48-0 or sub.
I think the world record's safe.
Me personally, I think the world record is safe.
But I do think 48-0 or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.
I think it's doable
and then I think
over the next
you know
could she possibly double
they're going to have to set the schedule
like they did for Michael Johnson
Valerie Briscoe Hooks
I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks
I forgot she was a great
she was the first person
to pull the double to 4-2
and she did it in 84
so we've had
Shaunders, we've had some great runners
and the 400.
Well, hold on.
We got a great 400 runner right now
and the family.
Oh, your daughter?
Yeah, Ray, yeah.
I hope you're watching.
You see what Sid doing.
She had, you know,
Kentucky.
Oh, you're going to run for Kentucky too?
Yeah.
Yeah, she up there.
Yeah, she had been in Kentucky.
Yeah.
She better be watching, too.
I think the head coach,
when Sid went with Edric Flore,
I think he's at University of Texas now.
I think so.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the,
I think he's at UT now, but Cid's booking.
Ash, it's the, it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?
It's the 11th fastest?
Nah, mm-mm, I'm a disagree.
Because 4760, 47-99.
48, 14, 4817, 4825, Marie Jose Perrette, 4827, Olga Brazina,
and Sidney McLaughlin, number 7 at 4829.
So I don't know where they get this from.
The level fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 4863, at the Olympics in Atlanta.
So we're going to disagree.
We're going to disagree with USA Today or USA tracking field.
yeah
I would
disagree
the level of the fact
hold on
they says the level fastest
time in history
how
uh
pull it up
put it up
put it up on
put it up Ash right quick
Google it
because something
ain't adding up
I hope they threw men in there
oh
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
So what they're doing is she ran more than one time
under the time, on the Seid's time.
They're counting that.
Okay, okay.
So I was just, wow.
Yeah, but look, I'm going to leave that alone
because we know what the system
that the East German than the old Soviet had in place.
But let's leave that alone.
she ran the time it got ratified
hey we'll leave that alone no show
okay okay
the 11th fastest time the seventh fastest person
because uh coke ran two
she ran 4816 twice
and she ran 4822
so she got four the top
four the top fast seven seven times
uh in uh in the country
gold medal in the 110 meter hurdles
Grant Holloways
trying to 4 Pete Ocho
has come to an end
Cordell Tinch
who did I say MJ
who did I tell I got Cordell Tinch
ran 1299
Orlando Bennett Jamaica 1308
Tyler Mason Jamaica 1312
Richard
the Japanese runner ran 1318
Jacoby Thark ran 1331
So it stays in the house.
It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Hold on.
Flamingo, what place he came in?
He didn't get to the finals.
It's been a rough year.
I don't know if he's injured.
I don't know what he's dealing with,
but he didn't even make the finals.
Yeah, he was a three-time world champ,
three consecutive times,
and he'd make the finals.
Damn.
And the 1500 minutes.
Isaac Nader, Portugal, 33410.
Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 33412.
Reynolds Cherriott, Kenya, 33425.
Timothy Cherriott, Kenya, 33450.
Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 33452.
Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.
Josh Kerr was dealing.
Inger Britson, I don't know what happened to him,
but he didn't make it.
Cole Hawker got disqualified for Jocelyn
and Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ.
He dealt with a footie.
He was dealing with a calf injury or something.
He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.
Dang.
Men's long jump, the girl.
The goal went to Furlani of Italy, 839 meters,
beat Carl Lewis as the record as the youngest
long jump world champion history.
Tai Jail, Jamaica, 834,
Xi Yoha, China, 8.
33. So damn. And the pole ball, Mando Duplantis, a new world record, Ocho, six meters 30.
He breaks the world, he breaks the world record for the 14th time.
Hey, that's, that's crazy because, you know, you're not used to pole boat in high school, huh?
Yeah. Damn.
Manolo, Carolus. What was the record again?
Six 30 meters. That's over 20 feet.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did about 17 feet, boy, my junior year.
The former world record holder, Renee, Lava Lenny,
was in last place.
He was in eighth place at 5 meters, 75.
He was the former world record holder.
And Sam Kendricks of the U.S. 595 finished just, just, just off the podium.
Dang.
Why remember them days, boy?
I was scared of over.
And the shot put, Ryan Krauser, in his first.
meet. He's been dealing with an elbow injury
this entire season, but he came
in and when he needed to be great, he
was 22 meters
34 for gold.
Munez, Mexico,
2197,
Silver, Leonardo
Fabri, Italy,
2194.
Tom Walsh of the Netherlands,
excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me.
He was 2194.
But we
are...
But it's unbelievable problem was able to do.
I mean, just think about Ocho.
The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship.
Yeah.
And he uncorks won 22 meters and 34 on his fifth throw.
The greatest shot putter into history.
He won three consecutive world championships.
He's won three consecutive gold medals.
Obviously, he's getting good gear up.
Probably, I don't know what how about you do.
They only got the USA's next year.
And then they got the World Championships in 2017.
and then you got the Olympics in 28.
He's relocating his wife's a doctor.
He's moving to Nashville.
I think she got a job at Vanderbilt.
I think they're relocated from Texas.
Oregon, yes.
They didn't force you when you were the high school to run track?
Yeah, I ran track.
So you ain't do the field events?
I did.
I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.
Okay, I did shot putting.
I did poebo.
I ran four by one, four by four, 100, 200,
I ran a $1,500.
Yeah, I won the, I'm a three-time state champ in the triple jump.
I won the best performance trophy.
The farthest jump in the state meet, my senior year.
I won the high point trophy.
The most points accumulated in the state track meet in my classification, my junior year.
Yeah, I ran track, Coach.
I was pretty good.
Got recruited by a lot of schools.
I still got my technique too.
Your legs too close together.
No, my furniture white.
I can't kick my furniture, man.
But congratulations to all the winners, Ryan Krauser gold medal.
Yes.
In Cordell Tinch.
Unbelievable.
We keep the gold here.
We go keep that gold medal here.
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