Club Shay Shay - Best of Usher, Katt Williams, 21 Savage and Kountry Wayne

Episode Date: February 3, 2024

What a kick off to the year it’s been at Club Shay Shay! Enjoy this recap of some of the best moments from January and prepare for more captivating conversations with Shannon Sharpe in February beca...use you never know who’s going to stop by The Club… 00:00 Kountry Wayne fires off on Faizon Love and Jess Hilarious 16:53 21 Savage’s UK accent caused fights as a kid in Atlanta and 21 calls T.I. “cheap as hell” 30:55 Usher’s Legendary Vegas Residency which included serenading Keke Palmer and Taraji P. Henson 48:29 Katt Williams on Dave Chappelle, Taraji P. Henson, Jonathan Majors, Nick Cannon and going to jail 30 times #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:27 radio app or wherever you get your podcasts stealing jokes that seemed to be a big issue with comedians oh yeah they still joke you ever stole somebody joke no i ain't never stolen about a joke because i don't really i talk about me a lot right so it's hard for me to steal somebody because I talk about Wayne right you know what I'm saying you're good bro okay yeah you're good uh do y'all party hard the comedians no I don't really hang with I don't really hang with nobody I hung with Kevin Hart went to his party right no Kevin Kevin Hart part of a fun like it was a perfect party for me but no I don't really hang I don't really hang with comedian after everybody be in their own world and then when we have shows that's when
Starting point is 00:02:09 we get around each other we just laugh everybody go out there and do what they say you know but now i tour by myself so no so you were talking about earlier and i want to get back to this there were some og comedians that were saying things about you. You picked up. Hey, bro, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, I called. I called Faison Love. I was like, hey, man.
Starting point is 00:02:31 What is it with Faison? Why he in it with everybody? I think Faison trying to, I think he don't figure it out the internet. He trying to get his name out there, huh? He trying to get his name. But dealing with Wayne, he don't know you dealing with the wrong one because people knew me. Right. Like he was talking about my special trash, but he don't know. He think I just one because people knew me right like he was talking about my special trash But he don't know he think I just started this man
Starting point is 00:02:48 I'm joke so I've been I know them jokes were hitting cuz I don't took it around the world and toward it Right when you do a special he should know it is they know they are tracking my special They really laughing at heart right, you know me right a laughing so consistent. It was They try to because you know, you can't laugh You can't laugh when you talk at the same time right so you got to try to and my company is all beat so he ain't know the problem was all my shows is those jokes is i already tested but he thinks why ain't he's he trying to get in the loop but he ain't got enough information
Starting point is 00:03:21 he don't know what's going on in the loop so he tried to get hot but he ain't got enough information. He don't know what's going on in the loop. So he trying to get hot, but he ain't got his information right, so he sounds stupid. But why does he care? He ain't paying for a concert ticket. He don't have to listen to you. He ain't up, man. If I had his career, I'd cry.
Starting point is 00:03:37 If I've been doing comedy, comedy like a woman, it don't want you. Right. If you've been doing that that long, bro, it don't like you, dawg. If your biggest thing is an elf suit, and you bragging about being in these people's elf suit.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I mean, he did play Worm. I mean, he did play Big Perm. Listen to that. Big Perm. You're a grown man, and you still bragging about a big worm, you know what I mean? Whatever. Bro, I've been in the game a few years. I done ran it up and I got my
Starting point is 00:04:12 audience and I'm good. And I feel bad for him because I'm like, man, bro, you ain't got to do that. I'll show you the game. I'll show you the game. You know what I'm saying? Every comedian I get around, listen man, you phase on a little, get on here and do this and that. Start doing skits and this. I'm going to show you the game, you know say it could mean every committee. I get around this man You phase on love get on here and do this and that start doing skits of this I'm gonna show you the game, but you don't got to he
Starting point is 00:04:30 Try bad, but I don't get mad because the end of the day when you up like this And you get so much love the hate gotta come with it. Okay, the hate got come with it. But now you just okay I'm looking you you looking you looking like a fool. Yeah, because you don't got the info You don't got no information. Now. You sound a stupid man. Like bro. You just ain't you just ain't good You just any time you've been doing this is long Well, you ain't good, right? Said your entertainer wrote the forward for your book. Yeah, how do you get said to do that? How long you know see I know I said for I know say, you know
Starting point is 00:05:03 I've been a fantasy for years and then we had a situation during the TV show together whatever but uh man I hit him up he came to one of my shows he came to one of my shows and seeing me I rock my show right and a lot of comedians once they cut on my shoulder I see what's up right you know he came and I had a book come out and you know he showed me love all the the comedians showed me love. Kevin Hart hit me up. Now comedians competitive like Kevin Hart made me say I can't call you comedian until I see you do stand up. My special dropped. He called me and said bro you're a true comedian. You know what I mean? But Faison Love just that hate in his heart. I'm like bro you. I called this man and he was like no man man you good then a month after that you still talking so that's when I left it alone like oh you trying to get some clout right bro you just ain't good you you just ain't if you've been doing this long if I try something this long it ain't rewarding me yet yeah I'm gonna check myself now that's a hobby you know there ain't
Starting point is 00:06:00 no day no occupation you still have come to clubs but I'm saying you don't say that I'm in theaters you say you call yourself a professional golfer you ain't not on the occupation. That's a hobby. Man, you still come to clubs. But I'm saying, you know what I'm saying? I'm in theaters. You call yourself a professional golfer. You ain't out on the tour. Yeah. That's a hobby now. And I don't got the tour already. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:06:11 He don't understand who he was dealing with. He called out the wrong target. Right. Because you dealing with, I'm a winner. Right. So you ain't at the wrong target, bro. You just ain't like that, bro. You ain't been in no big roles.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Right. You think, I don't know who calling you a legend. You know what I mean? Because you ain't one of the ones. If Faison fell off the earth, we're going to put him on shame room for a minute. Now they come in and say, oh, he was so good in Ice Cream Truck. We're going to forget about him. Give me your Mount Rushmore comedians.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Mount Rushmore? Oh, my God. Dead or alive. Give me your Mount Rushmore comedians. Mount Rushmore? Oh, my God. Dead or alive. Give me your Mount Rushmore. But that Mount Rushmore got to go long, though. No, you ain't got but four heads.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Come on, Wayne. I know you've been in school a little while, but you only got four heads. Got it. Got to put Eddie Murphy up there. Okay. You talking stand-up
Starting point is 00:07:00 or just movies? Comedy. Comedy. Mount Rushmore comedians. Hey, I'm going gonna put my Rushmore my Eddie Murphy okay I gotta put oh man I gotta get more I gotta you say it's four or five four god dog it's ain't a man I tell you I do you this I give me your top five then all right Eddie Murphy okay I'm gonna mess you up Eddie Murphy. Okay. Don't want to mess you up. Eddie Murphy.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Man. You done said Eddie three times. He can't be but one. I got to put him here. To me, he didn't miss in the movie, man. Chris Tucker. Okay. Cat Williams.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Cat. Kings of Comedy. You can't put our farm in there. Man, you doing what? That's group, man. We can count in the country way down I know I'm gonna miss you up there now all those guys everybody man like I'm gonna come in I see the greatness in all of you know I mean and I just think when it came to a lot of I tell everybody about this before I even did my special I watched pimpin pimpin I did my special to with it to two different ways right and people don't understand cat Williams cadence transcended to the new generation it's a new sound and coming in now right because back in the
Starting point is 00:08:16 day like a hip-hop you be right I was chilling with the and she was bad but now like you know they don't chillin you know they don't vibe you know they don't slide you know that we drank it it's a different vibe. So, Cat William Cadence was already there. That's why I'm pimping, pimping. So, I took some of that. Because before I did my special, me and Trevor Noah, we had the same manager. He called me. He said, his manager, Derrick, was like, Wayne, make sure you slow down in your special.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Because I say, I did it that way. But I looked at it, I did it the other way because it's the beats so I just think it's different times for different folks but some people timing was already there like Eddie Murphy already had talked like that in movies what you know what you talking about me you know saying so it's just some people I just think it's different time for different folks but right I think every I think all I think every comedian I think every comedian funny. Even Faison Love, he's still funny to me. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:09:08 Now if I went to a comedy show, you want my type to go to. Right. But you still funny to me. I can see why people think you funny because I got a cousin that act like that. You see it in everybody. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:17 But you know, it's different strokes from different folks when it comes to comedy, bro. Right. Comedy the most, they tell you it's the hardest art where they get judged the most. Because think just cuz something funny to do I don't like it I tweeted a Taylor Swift song come on people like I don't like that well I'm taste on it's a lot of people who do they don't like it they love it you know I tell face on love there's a lot of people that don't like him he's probably
Starting point is 00:09:42 selling the least out of everybody I know don't come to club prices buddy and you still live them if i wasn't coming to club that long it ain't you know what i mean come on bro you don't feel like doing no five show a week and talking you just got to hush after so long you've been in there that long man like come on man you're talking about the wrong one i'm hooked your first netflix special what did you learn from it what i learned from that netflix special what i learned from um boy the internet powerful that's what i learned i learned man netflix take you to now it i've learned but internet powerful but netflix open you up to the world because i ain't out of deals
Starting point is 00:10:26 and conversations and the stuff that I got. It was because of the special. Right. I learned Netflix is just, it's a different world. It's more broad than just my audience. Mm-hmm. You know, and I learned, man, you know, it's a big world out here.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Right. You know? What can we expect with the new tour, The King of Heart? The King of Heart tour, man, oh, the truth. You know what I'm saying? The King of Heart tour, because now I got that part out of me. A lot of that, my special was the introduction. You know Wayne.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Now you finna get to know Wayne. Wayne. You know Wayne. You know about his life. But through this special, you finna get to know how I think. Mm-hmm. You finna really open my mind and see how I got to where I'm at. And I don't play. You know what I'm saying? You finna really
Starting point is 00:11:12 get to know where he believe in Jesus. But, hey, man, I'm slapping the other cheek. You ain't turning. You slapping him. I'm slapping him. When Jesus said turn the other cheek, I read that different. I mean, when somebody slap you, the other cheek is on that person yeah i'm gonna slap the father yeah that that's what they're about to learn about wayne bro i ain't come on bro that's why
Starting point is 00:11:34 i don't bother nobody i don't play like that right i ain't man i was so personal the reason why i don't joke and john because i'm too i'm gonna get too too personal I'm going to be like bro I'm flyer than you you know what I'm saying I look better than you you know what I'm saying I get the paper and then if that don't work I'm going to be like
Starting point is 00:11:50 you can't get women like Wayne I'm going to go I'm going to get personal with that man so I'm just like this is what they finna find out about me how I got here
Starting point is 00:11:59 I don't protect my family just because I'm nice and believe in Jesus they finna see the lion so that's what the king of heart told about why I got the hearts of the people and I just got the flesh because a lot of people got moments right I've been hot the whole time I've been in this game right I ain't feel I ain't did this yet every
Starting point is 00:12:13 year I make more money than I made a year before and I'm always bigger and they too many comedians could go on tour by itself and sell out a theater without 30 people on a flyer right you know I know what I'm saying? I did that. This is my third tour with Live Nation. Country Wayne on the flyer. You know what I mean? And that's what they finna find out about. They don't play them games.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You know what I'm saying? I'm here to work, bless the people, bless my family, and I don't really play like that, man. You don't curse in your stand-up. Do you curse at home? My kids got all my curse words they got them stuck in them but you know um no i don't really curse i don't really curse at home because i practice it so much in my right company that it just i naturally now just don't curse that
Starting point is 00:12:57 much but you know sad didn't really curse he started he cursed he had a little curse too it's uh i might when i get old i'm probably when i get I'm probably going to cuss the hell out on that stage. I'm going to start cursing. Because they're going to make me curse in a minute. I say when I get older, man, I'm probably going to start letting it loose. Do you ever worry about getting canceled? Nah, man. Because I ain't scared to lose it all.
Starting point is 00:13:23 You know what I'm saying? I lost my mama, so I ain't scared to lose his money or his fame. So that's why I think it always rise. Right. Because whatever you fear is going to happen. So I'm like, how are you going to counsel me if my father is God? Wow. I'm like, how?
Starting point is 00:13:38 If God is my daddy, how can you control my destiny? Right. If you counsel me for something, that means I wasn't supposed to go over there anyway. So I'm not, I don't fear that. Because then I'll be trying to dodge everything. Right. No, I don't fear none of that. Because this ain't what feed me.
Starting point is 00:13:56 This is what God is using to feed me. Right. So if you take this away, I'd be building fireplace grills. They'd be the number one fire. I don't did a lot of things right and God don't show me he show up in everything so man I ain't really
Starting point is 00:14:11 nah I don't move like that just hilarious I mean I mean you should I bring her Dave you can bring her whatever you want to bring I mean you know
Starting point is 00:14:20 yeah you want to talk about that no man listen bro I just want to know cause I don't look I ain't messy anything you want to talk to me about I mean this you know. Yeah. You want to talk about that? No. Man, listen, brother. I just want to know. Look, I ain't messy. Anything you want to talk to me about, this sofa isn't. Ever since Cat Williams touched this sofa, the energy in this sofa, it make me want to talk about it. I mean, I did.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I don't know if you heard, but she was on Cam Newton's show. And she said, you know, y'all was in a relationship. Yeah. And, you know, she had to wake you up one morning because it had gotten out, y'all was in a relationship and, you know, she had to wake you up one morning because it had gotten out that y'all were together. I mean, you want to laugh?
Starting point is 00:14:50 I mean, she told her side on his show and you want to tell yours? Man, Jess, like I always told her, she never tells the 100% truth and I let her do that. Okay. But I tell her the other day, I say, Jess, man,
Starting point is 00:15:02 and I got kind of pity. I said, you got to get more going on in your career so they can start bringing up my name in your interview. Wow. Because when I come, Netflix special, his book, you know what I'm saying, this going on, that going on, we don't got to down each other. That's been, man, that's been five years ago.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Right. If that's the main question in your interview, well, we got to put some work in. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because when Country Wayne come, when I go on Good Morning America, here this is that we don't talk about so much before we got to that exactly you feel me i'm like man we don't have and i was comfortable
Starting point is 00:15:31 not talking about exactly and i'm like you can't it's not working in your favor right people can pretend it but they watching they see country wayne is taking care of black people movement don't let the people fool you right they ain't on your side I'm like it it ain't it ain't working so I was just like man a lot of that that she talked about I let it slide but man that stuff ain't play out like that man you know I'm saying I separated from my wife right when it got just you know I'm saying and and that was it I started talking to her right and I got divorced my divorce was 45 days right you know what I mean right and uh me and her started talking to her. Right. And I got divorced. My divorce was 45 days. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And me and her started talking.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And then all the stuff she talking about on there, because my baby mama hit me up. She was like, can you please ask Jess to stop talking about that? Because now the kids are handed at school because she keep bringing it up. And that's the only reason it made me hit up. I'm like, Jess, man, I ain't never said nothing negative about you. And everybody know that. Right. Let that ride.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Right. You know what I'm saying? But she wanted to be the winner. I'm like, Jess, let's be real. Because Charlamagne asked one time, he said, how you lose Jess and Larry? I said, how she lose Country Wayne? I'm going to catch you.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Right. What you talking about? Like, let's be real. My baby mama was, yeah, they fine in the zone or what? Jess fine too. Right. But I've been had them. She ain't had no Country Wayne.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, man, let's just, let's stop that, man's stop that man first of all two black people talking if you're gonna speak just speak the truth because this sofa right here no no no don't do that don't do that don't don't do that don't do that no but i'm like i'm like man but you didn't say you know she woke you up no that ain't come on man that didn't happen like that? That didn't happen like that. That did not happen like that, man. That divorce went so fast. I filed in December. Me and my baby mama was divorced by February.
Starting point is 00:17:11 But at that point in time, when you had separated from your wife, you had started talking to Jess? Yeah, I had started talking to Jess. Okay. Now, all this stuff came out of the shade room. A lot of that was after that. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right.
Starting point is 00:17:19 And she just, she say, we woke up. And then she was like, can I tell him all the time, it's still corny. I'm like, why you got to call my stuff corny? Because I got a different audience that follow me too. Right. You know what I mean? I got the streets in the church. Ain't too many artists got the streets in the church.
Starting point is 00:17:36 You know what I mean? Man, what I be seeing, what you be talking about, you be making on social media a month. That ain't nothing corny about that. That ain't nothing corny. But see, that's that mentality of people from a certain it's like this this world think this world corny this world think this world corny i think martin was a good show and big bang theory right uh just because you think friends corny when they get a million episode you ain't gonna never grow artistically because you think only what you come from is good right and that's the million episode, you ain't going to never grow artistically because you think only what you come
Starting point is 00:18:05 from is good. Right. And that's the problem with everybody. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, bro, you're going to call this corner just cause I ain't cursing. Confident to get this in-stream ad money.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Well, y'all keep going on tour. Yeah. Got to keep catching the wild way. Sit home in a bed, spend the time with your kid. You know what I'm saying? Making this.
Starting point is 00:18:25 I'm pretty sure you probably had an accent. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, okay. So now you're on the east side of Atlanta. Yeah. You got an accent. How receptive were the kids to you? They used to tease.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I got in a fight on the first day of school. Oh, God. From the jump? Yeah, they used to tease me. Okay. Like, I went to Dunnett Elementary. That was the first elementary school I went to. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:48 So, we get to the, I get on the bus or whatever, they start talking to me. So, they making fun of me on the way to school. Okay. So, we get on the bus to go home. They making fun of me on the way home. Okay. So, we get off the bus. Like, one of the older dudes, like like his little brother was the main one so the older
Starting point is 00:19:07 brother was like like um said something like basically like shit fighting so we get off the bus i beat him up so the girls all the girls they run and tell my mama okay at the door so i your sisters no no kids in the neighborhood kids in in the neighborhood. OK. So they run. They tell my mama because they start. I really was kicking a lot. They started calling me Taekwondo kid. It's a true story. I'm my mom. OK, so. So they they run to tell my mom. So I'm trying to drag my feet to get home now. So I walked to the door. She grabbed me by my ear ear put me in the house because the girls were still there right telling her the story when I got there so she I just remember her grabbing me by my ear and then like throwing me in the house like type shit and then that was it I ain't get in on punishment you ain't get no punishment no she didn't ask you what started it
Starting point is 00:20:00 so you so I not from my memory right feel what i'm saying right you probably did right but from what i can remember i just remember getting pulled you know you only remember the parts you remember right i just remember the air like so what do you think was the biggest obviously you're very young so you haven't experienced a whole lot it's not like you're coming here you're 13 or 14 so you haven't had a whole lot of uh your five or years of age. I think you're seven at this time. Yeah. So is there a big culture shock? Do you notice anything different about being in London as opposed to being in East Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:20:32 The most shit that I like that I used to like what I remember changing was the size of everything. OK. Like I remember like in London, like our bathrooms would be like this big right here right you feel what i'm saying then i remember like we were still we was in the hood in on the east side too right but it was just like a size different like like at my grandma house in london i could touch both sides of the house like this wow you feel what i'm saying but over here it's like it's more space right i remember. And I remember getting in a car to go everywhere. Right. And London, we used to take the bus and the train everywhere. I remember like we always was in the car when we got here.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So you had an accent. I'm assuming. So where did you fall in the ranking as far as your siblings? I'm the oldest. You're the oldest. Yeah. OK, so I'm assuming. So, man, so if you're seven, that means you got three brothers, three sisters. That means, man, you got some babies. You got three. Like because it's a it's a three years age gap between me and my little sister. OK, so if I was seven, she was probably like three turning four. Right. And then my little brother was still a baby baby. Right. And then the other three was born in america
Starting point is 00:21:46 okay feel what i'm saying right right so did you feel a sense of responsibility because you are the oldest you i mean even though you're a child you're like you're the oldest male and so do you feel some type of responsibility that you needed to like okay i need to be the man of the house even though i'm only seven years old at the time i think so yeah for sure yeah like i was naturally like a protector type shit yeah for sure so what did your mom what did your mom think about that so the type of relationship because like you said you're the oldest your mom is in a new in a new place and granted there are a community that came with you but you the protector because you like okay, OK, I got to look after my mom. I got to look after my brother, my sister. Did your mom tell you anything about that or you just instinctively took that on?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think it was just like instinct for the most part. I feel like I feel like it's just in my personality too like just like take care of everything I don't know why I'm like that but I think just naturally like I developed that because like my whole life I've been like that like since I was old enough to like get out and do what I need to do right I always like took care of my mama and my siblings and shit right yeah do you feel that so was your when you were in london do you remember much about your dad being around yeah i remember my daddy used to come get me like every weekend i used to be over there because that's like where a majority of like my cousins
Starting point is 00:23:20 was at right on my on my mama's side i only got like like three four cousins okay but on my daddy's side it's like 30 of them right wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast nfl daily with greg rosenthal five days a week you'll get all the latest news previews recaps and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here. Just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game every single week, but I can't do it alone. So I'm bringing in the big guns from NFL media. That's Patrick Claiborne, Steve Weiss, Nick Shook, Jordan Rodrigue from The Athletic, and of course, Colleen Wolfe. This is their window right now. This is their Super Bowl window. Why would they trade him away?
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Starting point is 00:26:25 Feel what I'm saying? So that's my daddy's side right so you so in other words you really love spending time with your dad's side of the family because that's where all the cousins were that's where you got an opportunity to run and play and just have a good time it was just deeper but my mama's side too because like my cousins on my mama's side was bad as hell, too. Oh. You see what I'm saying? But it just wasn't a lot of us. Right. Like, it was just me, Kyron, and Jerome. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:50 We was the only boys on my mama's side. On my daddy's side, it was more. But the same shit, it's just different side. Well, see, if it's only three of y'all, the trouble is only going three places. So it's you, you, or you. When your dad's side is about 30 of y'all so you can blame a whole bunch of people oh god so growing up in the east side on that side of town rappers gucci man future oj the juice man rich harmy kwan childish gambino
Starting point is 00:27:14 did you did you know any of those guys when you were growing up you had no idea about these i seen gucci before okay um I seen Gucci before. Okay. Yeah, I seen Gucci before, for sure. I seen him at Church's Chicken before, like when I was real young. Right. Right. No, Miss Winters. I seen him at Miss Winters. Miss Winters, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Yeah, yeah. Zone, I mean, the east side, that's Zone 6. There's a lot going on. Yeah. East side of Atlanta. There's drugs. There's a lot of killings. So what did your mom, did your mom try and shield you? Like, son, you can't be out this side of Atlanta. There's drugs. There's a lot of killings Did so what did your mom did your mom try and shield you like son? You can't be out this time of night So what what did she tell you about the area that you that you guys like we're gonna call home now. I
Starting point is 00:27:58 Don't I used to be outside so I don't remember like hers is like The only time it'll be a problem is if I got in trouble in school. Right. But other than that, like I wasn't like one of them when the street like come on kids. Right. My mama used to let me figure it out because in London, it's the same shit. It's damn near worse. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Because it's like concrete everywhere. You see what I'm saying? It's alleys. It's the inner city. So in London, I used to be outside from what I remember. Well, that was when we went back though. Right. Like from before then, I don't remember being outside that much. But so like, nah, she just used to let me like-
Starting point is 00:28:36 Let you figure it out. Figure it out. Then I used to be with Skinny. Okay. Well, his real name Aaron. Okay. I used to be with him and he was older than me So he was like my big brother right and like so as long as I was with him She would give me a little more freedom to do shit like as long as he watching over you you good Did you always gravitate towards older guys?
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah, I always hung with like people older than me for sure Because you felt you was more mature than got than young guys your age. Yeah, for sure. Because I was older. I had to be. I'm the oldest. Right. So you naturally like a little more mature than you have to be. Because if you're not, you're going to get in trouble.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Right. So how was the struggle when your mom moving here, obviously, in a different country? Obviously, times were difficult for you guys. Did you realize how difficult times were for your mom and your family yeah hell yeah like i remember when we first moved um you'll be smoking cigars on here don't you go ahead and take off all right this is your just your joint let's go ahead but i remember like um when we first moved over here like before we moved to the neighborhood where i went to elementary school from, we moved to another neighborhood on the east side. And I remember my mama and her nigga, well, her man at that time, they used to sleep on the bottom bunk.
Starting point is 00:29:59 All us used to sleep on the top bunk. We used to share the apartment with one of their friends. So it was a two-bedroom. Okay. We used to share, like, we shared an apartment with one of their friends. Okay. So it was a two-bedroom. Okay. We didn't got evicted before. I remember coming home and our stuff was outside
Starting point is 00:30:11 in front of the house. Right. Like, growing up, like, I ain't never had my own bedroom till I was probably, like, 15 years old or something. Like, we all shared a room. Like, for probably from, like, first grade a room like for probably from like first grade till like
Starting point is 00:30:29 sixth grade we should i it was they had a room my mama and her man had a room and me and all my siblings had one room because in a two-bedroom apartment then like i don't know what happened they got a little motion and then we moved in the same apartments, but we used to call it Cross the Bridge. It's like the other side of the neighborhood. Right. And we had got a three-bedroom. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:55 The boys had their own room, and the girls had their own room. And then I met my other big brother when I moved over there, Tavares. Right. They stayed under us. They mama used to do the same thing. Oh, man. Oh, God. Get the broom and bang the roof.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Oh, God. Right. I had T.I. on the podcast. T.I. said, you asking for a million dollars? And he said no, because he said that I would have to take more from you. Yeah. He was still trying to sign me though ti is cheap as hell but i did he he sent me an offer yeah and i my counter offer was i want a million
Starting point is 00:31:36 right and he was like shit i'm gonna have to take so much from you in return right that it ain't even worth it ain't even gonna be worth the million in the future type shit so he actually saved you from yourself facts yeah i look up to ti because ti one of them niggas he rich as a motherfucker but he tight as hell that's how he keep that money though right he's smart with his money you had a platinum album before you signed your first deal yeah yeah so now you you're in a very favorable situation because you got you i mean it's not necessarily you got to do a bad deal because you already got a platinum album it's not like a situation you're looking to get signed so you can release an album you already got the album was it platinum or was it gold i had platinum singles yeah but i had a gold out right yeah but you straight yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:32:33 so it kept so that kept you out of a bad deal yeah because i was like it was like all type of street niggas i was supposed to sign to who had like little labels and shit. But some just used to tell me like, man, hell no, I don't take no 30,000. I don't take no 50,000. Right. Like you worth more than that. Right. You end up doing a 70-30 split, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. We're epic. Right. Yeah, that was my first deal. It was like 70-30, but like they had like a 10% distribution fee or some shit. Right. Yeah. So what's your take on streaming?
Starting point is 00:33:10 I hear Snoop Dogg say, man, look here, man. Them streaming, you stream a billion, and man, you ain't really making no money. What's your thoughts on streaming? I think it all depends on how your deal is structured because it's some money in streaming. It's just about how your deal is structured and how much you stream type shit. There's got to be some money in it because my label be giving me some money.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Okay, I was about to say, because the way you're talking, you're talking like you've got a structured deal that you be getting. They got to be making money because they're giving me money. Right. So there's some money in that shit, some real money because they're giving me money right so
Starting point is 00:33:45 there's some money in that shit some real money in it let me ask you about your catalog future sold his catalog i think he sold it 65 75 million is that something you'd be interested in at some point yeah i'll probably lay down down the line for sure yeah i only got a couple albums right now though right but you won't start it it depends how much my hustle, how I apply my hustle. Right. Because, shit, I might fuck around and invest in something and become a billionaire and be able to pass my catalog down to my kids. Might not even have to sell my catalog. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm looking at the XL freshman class. Lil Eazy Vert, Yachty, Kodak, Denzel, Kurt, J-Herbo, David East, Lil Dicky, Anderson.Paak, Desiigner, and you. Boy, y'all hit a lick that year. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, y'all hit a lick. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It was some stars on that cover. Do you ever sit back and like, man, considering your story of how coming to to Atlanta from London or the east side, your upbringing? There's a lot of things that could have happened that this didn't happen. Do you ever sit back and like, damn, man, this is savage. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. Yeah. I'd be like, I still got to keep going. You still trying to grind. Yeah. But I'd be like, I still got to keep going, though. You still trying to grind? Yeah. But I do be, like, appreciative, though. I do sit back and just daydream sometimes. Like, damn, this shit could have went this way or this way type shit.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Right. Had the pandemic not happened, would the residency with Usher, would that have happened? It was going to happen. It was going to happen. Yeah, it was going to happen. We had plans for it to happen. It was going to happen. We had plans for it to happen. Okay. And right as we were in the process of launching, I think I was in France at the time,
Starting point is 00:35:36 and it was just this crazy outbreak. Came back to America, and then before you know it, we were quarantined. And I'd been working on music, so I'd been kind of ramping up to something whether it was new music a new tour and we all felt like las vegas would be an incredible reintroduction of new music also to celebrating legacy but it turned into something far far more than that man you know right we're here at the nomad las vegas right down the hallway
Starting point is 00:36:02 um from where you're performing your residency tonight at the Dolby Live Park MGM. My daughter, whose flight was delayed, wanted to be here, but I'm bringing her tonight for her birthday. So when you've caught a lot of flack, the women come. Come with your daddy or come with your sugar daddy? No, no. Or come with your husband? This is my actual daughter. I'm very protective about this one. I ain't got but two girls. I'll come with your husband. This is my actual daughter. I'm very protective about this one.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I ain't got but two girls, and I'm very protective of us, so don't be messing around. So the criticism. I mean, you're just having a good time. You say you got your things on. I mean, are you surprised that you've gotten the criticism and the blowback that you've received?
Starting point is 00:36:40 I don't know, man. I just know that this juncture of my life is just about having fun. You don't even care. No, it's not that I don't care. It's that I want you to know that I'm't know, man. I just know that this juncture of my life is just about having fun. You don't even care. No, it's not that I don't care. It's that I want you to know that I'm having fun. And that is a part of me having fun, being out in the audience amongst the fans and also to the people and feeling that energy. I don't remember the last time that I've been to a show like that.
Starting point is 00:37:04 You know, I know that we all feel good when we go to Frankie Beverly and we you know, we all dress in our white We go out there and we enjoy each other and you know in the aisles and have a great time Right, but like what an artist comes out and just is amongst the people, you know This arena gave me an opportunity to be able to be closer to my fans because I've been I put out an album in Almost six years right so now being able to reconnect in that way, you know, obviously it spun into something that became, it gave me a new title. Yeah. I think Charlamagne Tha God named me
Starting point is 00:37:34 like the domestic terrorist. I'm like, bruh, I'm just, this is actually an usher show, right? Well, you said you could feel the energy. You can't feel the energy from them hugs and them boyfriend giving you the evil eye? Like need to back up no they actually cool the guys that are there you know what i'm saying the girls they get a little rowdy i'm just saying but you know it's don't leave your girl around me i still come with your girl you know what i'm saying come
Starting point is 00:37:57 with your daughter you know what i'm saying bring your wife but it but yo but by the way again it's all in good fun right and the whole purpose and point is to bring that energy to las vegas when i look out and i see my people i see you know i see us doing something that i don't feel i don't feel like it's been done here like the black dollar is strong in vegas man more than it's ever been. And the cast and the crew and the feeling of what this has built has been a celebration. So, you know, I don't know if I was able to even look at it as a negative. And then anything that has happened in terms of the girls who came up there, rather it was Taraji P. Henson or, you know what I'm saying, Kiki Palmer. You know that woman had just had a baby and she was. I mean, she wanted to get out and have a baby. You know what I'm saying, Kiki, you know, Palmer. You know that woman had just had a baby and she was...
Starting point is 00:38:47 I mean, she wanted to get out and have a good time. You know what I'm saying? Should you not feel like you, you know what I mean, like you should get out with your girls and enjoy yourself? You should, right? Yes. And there you have me to assist your usher. Oh, you ushering them into a good time.
Starting point is 00:39:02 You taking that lit, you going too far with this. You know, the ushers help you to the chair or find a seat. I'm ushering you to a good time, baby. You know what I'm saying? Come have a good time with me. Working out. Yeah, man. I talked to Steve Stout yesterday, and he said that when you getting ready for a show,
Starting point is 00:39:18 that you would train chasing the U-Haul and they're playing Confessions. Because you are an entertainer. You're not just sitting on a stool singing. You're moving and you're every word and you're dancing. You're doing all these dance moves. Bro, how are you able to do this night in and night out
Starting point is 00:39:35 and you still got them 20-year-old knees? Yeah, I know, man. It's like the conditioning is no different than football. You got to really have the core. You got to make have the, you know, you got to have the core. You got to make certain that you can sing and dance. So part of my moving and singing
Starting point is 00:39:51 and running and doing some of these things that are probably not a part of the, you know, the build of artists, you know, that type of artist development is something that I learned. I learned it from a guy by the name of A.J. Alexander, the guy who actually discovered me,
Starting point is 00:40:06 who was Bobby Brown's bodyguard, right? So, as a kid, he had his kids in Atlanta, and this was our training. It was like boot camp. Singing wasn't just like, oh, we're going to get out here and just jam and sing to girls. No, you've got to like... He was putting us through straight boot camp.
Starting point is 00:40:21 So you had to learn to sing while you're tired, because you're running, and like you said, it's boot camp. I just think that that generation of entertainment, it was different, you know what I'm saying? And I had been in a group before, and we as a group, you know, we worked in the same way. You know what I'm saying? We played basketball, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:40:40 and we got our wind up. Or when we were working, we would sing and dance and move around. He would have us running and singing, all of that kind of stuff. That wasn't uncommon. That's not an uncommon thing
Starting point is 00:40:49 if you consider yourself an artist. That is part of artist development. If you want to be able to get out there, sing, dance, not miss a beat,
Starting point is 00:40:58 be on key, that's the type of work that you got to do. Right. You mentioned you were born in Chattanooga. You moved to Atlanta at a very, very young age. And you said your mom, I read where you said your mom kind of quit what
Starting point is 00:41:12 she was doing to devote all of her attention to you. And you said your mom was kind of hard on you and making sure that's what you wanted. Where does your stand? Because we see Richard, Venus and Serena, Richard Williams was very hard on them we hear we see Tiger story his dad was hard on him and then I see Dwight Howard trying to push his son and he gets blowback so where's Usher if your kids how are you going to be with your son you say you got a son he's playing basketball now how's Usher the parent given where he came from knowing what he knows how's he going to be? Man, I deal with the same, you know, issues that any parent deals with kids who are influenced by, you know, the things that they see, the things that they get into. But the one thing that I do is care for my kids. I view disciplinary, you know, you know, kind of
Starting point is 00:41:58 measures as something that is preparing your kids, especially black kids for, you know, the reality of the world that they're living in. I hold you to a higher standard. I personally hold you to a higher standard because I know what work it takes to be great. And for parents who do that, look at the evidence. Look at the incredible artists, the incredible athletes that were created in that moment.
Starting point is 00:42:23 This generation may not necessarily have the same respect, but God bless the coaches that we have. God bless the mentors and stuff that we have that motivate our kids because it almost puts this pressure on parents to not be parents. No, it's a hard dynamic, especially if you come from an industry
Starting point is 00:42:42 where you know what it takes to not naturally kick into that mode and say, yo, if you want to do something, you want to play basketball, you got to run at a certain rate. I'm going to push you. If you really want to do this, you got to show me. You're going to show up on time. You ain't on time. Give me pushups right now. What? Yeah. Give me pushups. Run these laps. Run these suicides right now. You serious, Dad? Yeah, for real. And I'm not playing. And if I catch you, if I get there before you do,
Starting point is 00:43:06 you're going to give me 100 extra push-ups. Wow. You know what I'm saying? That's just the nature of the animal that is inside of who we are as, I don't know, man, as entertainers, as athletes. So I don't look at any of that kind of disciplinary kind of measure as a bad. I do think it's equally important to talk to your kids. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:28 If you're going to push them that way, then you got to love on them just as much. You got to explain to them why you're pushing. There you go. That's right. They got to know that, yo, my dad's going to push me to be great. My dad's going to talk to me as well and help me understand why he's pushing me the way that he is. But how is that? Because you have to understand you're in a totally different situation than what they
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Starting point is 00:46:46 feet, they got nanny, they got maid, they got chef, they got all of that. That is a harsh reality which is more the reason why you got to be harder on them. But mindful that their normal
Starting point is 00:47:01 is different than our normal. Right. And the access that they have is greater and grander. And the expectation is actually higher. That's the one thing that I have empathy for my children, especially the ones, you know, that I named my son Usher. So every time he's out, obviously there's that pressure. You know, I've even battled at times, you know, my kids kids sometimes they don't want me to come. They don't want me to be at their basketball game or their recital. They want me very, very low key because they don't want that energy.
Starting point is 00:47:32 They don't want, oh dad walked in the room and took- All their focus off of me. Yeah. It's hard because I try my hardest to have that empathy, but I want to be there. You know what I'm saying? Countless times being able to just sit at the back of the room quiet, you know what I'm saying, is keep myself as small as possible and be as quiet as I possibly can. You want to be a parent. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Yeah. But it is. You're right. Like that access and that reality that they're looking at, it gives them some expectation. And unfortunately, I can't take it back. You know what I'm saying? Like, I walked so that we could ride. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:09 And now that you're riding, you know, I want you to understand the importance of walking. Did you always, at the age of 10, 11, and 12, you're on Star Search. Did you always know you wanted to be this? Well, which part of this do you mean, right? Because... This, the guy that's sitting across from me, that's internationally known, that goes and sells out every concert, the guy that's almost at 100 shows at a residency, the guy that's doing the halftime show, one of the, the king of R&B, this.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Thank you very much, Phil. But let me give you a little clarity, right? Okay, okay. Yes. Thank you very much. But let me give you a little clarity. Okay, okay. No, I don't know if I, I don't know if I was prepared for any of it, but I know that I was dedicated enough to stick to it until something happened, and then something that I didn't expect happened,
Starting point is 00:49:01 to become a businessman, to then understand entrepreneurship, to understand philanthropy, to understand empathy, to begin to understand the other side of it, I wouldn't prepare for that. I knew that if I set my mind to anything, the affirmation of me once saying it and actually making it happen, willing it to happen,
Starting point is 00:49:26 was something that I was committed to. As a kid, I walked around, and my mother used to tell me all the time, you need to stop telling people that you're going to be a big artist. I'm like, why? That's what I believe. That's what I think about myself. If I don't believe it, nobody else would.
Starting point is 00:49:39 But you don't have to say it. It ain't happened yet. I'm like, but I want it to, so let me just keep saying it. I must keep saying it until it actually you know becomes the reality and I'm gonna not only just say it and expect somebody to give it to me I'm gonna take the long way around I want to work for it I want to be able to say I earned it you know what I'm saying I remember the first time that I saw you and I
Starting point is 00:50:00 didn't know quite know who you were I saw you in Nike Town in Phipps Plaza. Man. I used to see you in Gucci all the time. And you always sing. I was like, man, why this dude singing? I'll be like, he's like, he's like. And you were just singing and singing and singing. And I was talking to my sister. I said, man, I saw this, I mean, you couldn't have been no more than like 16 or 17 tops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:20 I said, I saw this kid in Nike Town. And he was singing. I think he might be something. I don't know if I was auditioning or what. I was preparing for my moment. I think that
Starting point is 00:50:36 that's the plight. To anything that you want to be great at, you have to make it a process. It's a part of your every thought. If you want to play basketball, you always bounce on the ball. If you want to make it a process. It's a part of your every thought. If you want to play basketball, you always bounce on the ball. If you want to play football, you're always readjusting. You're always managing.
Starting point is 00:50:52 You're always ready and alert. If you want to play sports, it's like you have to stay activated and stay active. As an artist, it's the same. I'm also too haunted by the idea that I had this talent, so it's naturally just coming out It's like you can't help but just be who you are. You had this talent Obviously in high school normally when you have a talent everybody is not as talented as everyone else So were there hating going on with it with you in high school?
Starting point is 00:51:19 The people hate that you were so gifted cuz you're gonna tell us show you winning, you know that You're not losing a talent show. No. So they're like, okay, you won the last five talent shows. You're not entering this one. No, but that's what makes you great, right? The fact that you know that there's opposition. You know, if you're playing on a football team, right,
Starting point is 00:51:42 you're going to go out there. You see that you up against some dogs. You know what I, right? You're gonna go out there you see that you you up against some dogs You know what I'm saying? You got to go out there with a different attitude You gotta like believe it. You gotta like be it, you know, and by the way, I had a hard time sure, bro My name was Usher like yeah, like I don't have like Marcus or Like Eddie or something like that like I was already like outlier You know what I'm saying? Like wait a minute you, you're walking around with this name, and they weren't nice to me, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:09 Usher. What's up, Usher? You want an Usher boy? You know what I'm saying? A Hershey bar? I was like, man, come on, man. All right, that's cool. So what was dating like for Usher in high school?
Starting point is 00:52:21 Dating? It was a bit difficult, you know what i'm saying because i just you can say you can swoon them yeah i know but you know i was just trying my hardest to stay focused on my actual goal and i don't know man i was you know i was just trying to figure out how to get to the real goal you know to have a girlfriend that was cool. You know what I'm saying? I would definitely impress the girls. See, I knew I was going
Starting point is 00:52:49 to get an outfit. I knew I'd get an outfit. Of course. You know what I'm saying? But it wasn't about that, man. I was focused, bro. I was like, I need to stay focused.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I have a goal. So when I figured out this is really what I want to do, I think I was willing to make the sacrifices that were needed. while I wanted to enjoy, you know having relationships It was like if I find a girl that I think is really cool and I can learn something from her She can learn something for me then we can help each other. But for the most part I ain't yeah, man I hear we can help each other
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah, I don't I don't think I, there was a phase where I was girl crazy, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, I just, I was trying to figure out how to get as many numbers as I possibly could because I wanted to be a player, you know what I'm saying, from the Himalayas. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, I was, I wasn't really focused on, you know, that too much. Well, you know, I wasn't really focused on that too much. Well, you know ATL, we running the music game, right? Absolutely. We on top of the world.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Yo. How did that, because you're part of that. Yes. I mean, you can't tell the story of Atlanta music without mentioning Usher Raymond. No, man. How did that make you feel? Man, we. No, man. Mm-mm. How did that make you feel? Man, we did something, man. The Ace, man listen, the South got something to say
Starting point is 00:54:10 is what Dre said, and we've been saying it for a long time. You know, and the potency of that, you know, I think it's great. I think more than anything, again, there's this transition and this focus just for me, and I think it should be a focus for more artists, you know what I'm saying, to really focus on the other things that these genres or southern music and entertainment breeds.
Starting point is 00:54:34 There's an entire movement and feeling when you come to Atlanta, right? The world needs to know that. That's why I brought Atlanta to Las Vegas. Wow. You need to understand it. No different, like you look at Cirque du Soleil and all of those shows, right?
Starting point is 00:54:52 They celebrate their culture, whether it's in Spain or wherever it is. Our culture's the same. It might not be marketed the same. It might not feel, oh, because it's culture, but all cultural things eventually become something that's commercial, and I wanted things eventually become something that's commercial. And I wanted the world to be able to see and celebrate who we are, how we get out, what our music feels like, what our energy is, what our experience is.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I am bringing my daughter to tonight's show. So if you would, a song that's appropriate for someone her age. She's in her 30s. She don't want me to tell you exactly how old she is. She's not married? She's in her 30s. I'm not, she don't want me to tell you exactly how old she is, but. She's not married? She's not married. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I'm customizing, you know, I'm customizing this moment. The one comedian that we've been sitting here doing this interview that you hold in very high regard is Dave Chappelle.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Dave Chappelle walked away from 50 million. You said it was more, tell the story. That's right. I want you to tell it. No, you're. No, I want you from 50 million. You said it was more. Tell the story. That's right. I want you to tell it. No, you're No, I want you to tell it. You really are the best. You're proving it here today. As much as I'm proving it, you're proving
Starting point is 00:55:54 it. You're proving it. Yeah, that wasn't the thing. It wasn't, people say that. He lost 50 million dollars. No, no, that's not even close to what happened to this dude. And until you understand what happened to this dude and until you understand what happened to the dude you don't understand what happened like no not they offered him 50 million and he turned it down who gonna turn down 50 million now i've had to turn down
Starting point is 00:56:16 50 million dollars four times four times just to protect my integrity and that virgin hole I was telling you about. Right. Because P. Diddy be wanting to party. And you got to tell him no. You got to tell him no. I did. I did. See, I got the receipts for everything I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:56:36 That's why I can say them so freely. Ken, I need to know. Here, get you a note. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Because early on you was accusing me of being. Ken, man. Thank you. Because early on, you was accusing me of being... Cat, man. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I mean, but you know, some of these people... Martin tried to put me in my first dress. When he had to go on his hiatus, he tell me, Cat, when I come back, I need you. You my young partner. You my brother in comedy. When I come back, just promise me that my next movie, it'll be me and you. We gonna do it together. We gonna do some buddy cop shit I said Martin you got my motherfucking word my nigga go
Starting point is 00:57:12 do what you got to do when you come back I'm in your movie don't trip I don't need to see the script or nothing you know we get in that office and this fool pull out big mama's house too. I almost died. And I gotta read this script from all these good white people. Where this nigga want me to get in a dress with him. And I'm literally saying to everybody, why is he in a dress again?
Starting point is 00:57:38 You already played the old lady as a FBI agent. We can play anything now. We can be playing a dog catcher this time why do we need to be in a dress and I get so mad I say you don't want me you want Brandon T Jackson and that's who they went got twice I said it they went and got him just like I'm telling you I had the other dudes work I had all of it all I did was say I want to punch it up so it's not offensive to real niggas and
Starting point is 00:58:08 That's how I got in this position. I Sure hope I have a club Shay Shay after this there It's gonna be in a dimension. It's never been yeah, it's gonna be The greatest thing floating in No way in a whole different realm of business. Oprah coming next. Oprah coming next. Once I established this as a place of truth.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Watch. Watch. God's people ain't that few. I don't know if you saw this, but Taraji P. Henson got extremely emotional the other day. She was giving an interview. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:53 And saying that they're vastly underpaid. They say the math is not mathing. They get X amount of dollars by the time Uncle Sam get his cut, by the time the agency get their cut. And what you see they were supposed to get is a fraction of that. Where do you come down on that cat it was the saddest thing ever because imagine imagine being in your genre in your sub niche whatever it is imagine being in your lane imagine being one of the very top of your lanes that to the point where if they don't take you for the role, there's not three black actresses that they can say are bigger than you that we're going to give this to. Imagine you
Starting point is 00:59:30 being at that point and have to humble yourself and say, they're not paying me, y'all. And they're not making my pay go up because I'm doing better or nothing. It don't matter to them that I'm famous and people know me or nothing. They want to pay me exactly what they paying the new girl. And I've been suffering under it for a decade now and just taking it. I just been getting whooped, but I just got to come say this is wrong. We should be ashamed, but this is a country where we don't pay the teachers. And then we say the kids is the most important thing. You can't have both of them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 If you do that, we're going to end up with a generation that can't read. Guess what? Generation Z and A can't read. Why? Because who was giving them a book? We got an iPad or a phone. And now the letters don't mean there's no cursive writing.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Sorry about that. So yeah, this is what period of time it's in. It's the period where the victims get to say, they've been hurting me for a long time. And I just ain't said nothing because I was trying to be strong. And I didn't want to shame anybody. When our people call out for help, we got to understand.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You know what I mean? Like we put too much pressure on Tyler Perry. You know what I mean? He ain't put nobody on. The people that have been in his productions, they not famous. All of them can walk through the mall without security. Be what you're going to be, but put your people on. If you a gay person and you in there be, but put your people on. If you a gay person and
Starting point is 01:01:06 you in there, put some other gay people on. Put somebody on. Or don't be wondering why people keep saying gatekeepers. Because clearly, y'all are keeping these gates. Clearly. My goal was to get this far in Hollywood and still have a virgin asshole. And never have sucked a penis. That was my only goal. I didn't want to get with a white woman because I was scared she might have me running down the street like Jonathan Benjams. Benjams gonna pick up my whole cat! Not because I didn't like white women. I think white women are as great as any other women.
Starting point is 01:01:47 But I'm not going to act like I'm not scared of them. I have a reason to be scared. You could be Kang the Conqueror and they could take your rabbit ass down in two weekends. And that's the truth of the matter. So I stayed away from that. You see Jonathan Majors, what he went through, Marvel dropped him as soon as the guilty,
Starting point is 01:02:04 the conviction came out. And you were telling the truth. Hey, you saw that black woman come get his charge cut in half. Thank you, Megan. Good God bless you. Coming to save that slave. If he had to be there by himself, he was getting awful. Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.
Starting point is 01:02:22 She came in. That was just so beautiful. They had to knock half of it off. Bless his heart. So Matt Wright, you know him from Wildin' Out. He gets canceled for trying to tell a... I never knew him from Wildin' Out, to be honest. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I came across him as a new comic. Okay. And, yeah, I'm really just trying to see the comics, judge where they are, see it. Yeah. Right. Go ahead. Wilding out.
Starting point is 01:02:48 How difficult was it for Nick Cannon to get you on? And what was that experience like? I've known Nick Cannon since he was a teenager. He had to have his, in the comedy club, if you're underage, you can't be in the regular club. You had to be in the comedy club if you're under age you can't be in the regular club you have to be in the kitchen right so i was the master of the kitchen every comedy place because i got a child and my child is back here in this place while i go on stage right so i've known nick cannon since he was 14 nick cannon has never called and asked me to do one single thing, and I turned him down,
Starting point is 01:03:25 because I've known him since he was a young black child in Hollywood. Wow. So, what I did in Wild N' Out was to be his protector and to be his voice with hip hop. So the whole thing was, the thing that he was trying to do had never been done before.
Starting point is 01:03:44 You can't bring six comics in and let six comics talk shit about six rappers because the six rappers will beat the six comics ass. Right. You will have to have a comic that could actually stand in between and go, look, we comics, we gonna say what we gonna say. Y'all gonna take it and understand it's a joke. If you want to fight, we fight, we going to say what we going to say. Y'all going to take it and understand it's a joke. If you want to fight, we fight before the show. So you can go out there with your black eye. We're not going to do it comedically. This is what needed to take place in order for it to be successful, which is why it had already aired and didn't work and then
Starting point is 01:04:25 suddenly when it comes back with me it suddenly works because respect has to be in there as well if you don't trying to do it with kevin hart you and him gonna get run over you you you a teenager he five two like what's gonna? Have you ever spent time in jail? 30 times. When you was in there, what was going through your mind, Ken? What did,
Starting point is 01:04:55 I mean, some people like, man, I had an opportunity to reflect and I was like, man, this ain't the place for me. I ain't coming back here.
Starting point is 01:05:01 When you, so what? I've never, I've never been in jail and it was my decision to be there. If if it's dangerous to be in the hood and you have to have a gun on you for protection and it's either be judged by six or I mean, judged by 12 or carried by six, I'm always going to have my heater on me. So if you want to tell me that you're going to pull me over 15 times looking for it, I'm going to tell you 15 times you're going to find it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Unfortunately, I smoke cigarettes and weed. If you catch me 15 times, 15 times I'm going to have it on me. What do you think I'm in jail thinking? Oh, I done fuck up. Damn these decisions. I'm not going to protect my life at all, I don't fuck up. Damn these decisions. I'm not going to protect my life at all when I get out of here. Fuck it. Let them do what they want to do to me.
Starting point is 01:05:52 No, no. When I'm in there, I'm fine. And I'm understanding that I'm put here for a reason. And the people that get joy off me being in here are really going to look stupid because I'm finna be free. Because you got to be setting this up. I'm never anywhere to get anything. You don't know I just made $300,000 in your city. That's why you think I might be out here as a ne'er-do-well. You think I'm, he's smoking weed. Yeah, he's got a medical license for it. He needs it. It's his only medication. Do you mind if he takes it?
Starting point is 01:06:26 It helps him eat because he does 1900 city tours flying across the line. And so he doesn't get hungry on the regular. He doesn't get sleepy at night. He's got to literally put himself to sleep. He's literally got to make himself eat. So this marijuana helps him do both of those things. I want to help you sleep. Oh, yeah. Because remember, remember, as a comedian, what you're doing is against your natural timeline. Your natural timeline wouldn't be that you would start your work day at eight o'clock p.m. And then your work day is over at two thirty a.m. Like that'sclock p.m. Right. And then your workday is over at 2.30 a.m. Like, that's a weird... Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Right? So to tell your body now that we're pumped up on endorphins, now let's go to sleep at 3. It don't work like that. Your body has to try to get a whole new schedule.
Starting point is 01:07:18 So, you know, it suffered, but that's what worked for me. I consistently used it. I told people all across the country, don't worry, this will be legal in our country. As soon as they find out how to charge taxes for it, we will be legal in this country.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Do they view me as some sort of visionary for my forward thinking? No. You own drugs. Well, I heard. Yeah, but how have you been, I mean, bro, every time they try to put bro every time they try to put you down They try to put you to the back. Yeah, you put you bounce up you move right back to the front I am you I mean you like a Super Bowl. You just keep bouncing in the you bounce higher
Starting point is 01:07:58 Trampoline skin is something that you ask God for When I watch you play football you had it There's some people that that you ask God for. When I watched you play football, you had it. There's some people that, there's really no such thing as hitting Shannon Sharpe so hard that he don't want to run the ball the next play. Right, absolutely. And if that's your only goal is to hit him so hard
Starting point is 01:08:23 that he don't want to be him no more, you just out of luck. Yeah, you're wasting your time. There's no, your coach can't help you. There ain't no pep talk going to help you. Don't matter about the uniform, your cheerleading. None of that matters. If it ever gets to mano y mano, may the best man win. And if you've been living your entire life trying to be the best man that you can for
Starting point is 01:08:45 yourself then you should feel great about those odds you say you smoke a little weed you don't smoke with snoop yeah i'm actually a bigger smoker than snoop he'll tell you that but i don't like i don't mix anything with my weed i just do weed right, right? So, yeah, nobody has... That minimum, I mean, you got... Nobody has, nobody does 20 blunts a day like me for 30 years. Like, I was the first person
Starting point is 01:09:14 to have a weed roller, like somebody whose job it was. Like, I haven't rolled a blunt in 20 years. You probably would have. Like, if you go... I'm saying I prefer the saliva of ladies oh my goodness no no understand what i'm saying if for a blunt it's necessary for it to get lit right and so if you had spent 20 years smoking with dudes that's a lot of male saliva that you would have just accidentally ingested.
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