Club Shay Shay - Broke Men Are The Best In The Bedroom | Truth After Dark

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

We are back! And this is a fun one! We discuss Gilbert Arenas’ advice to Neon, black love, Rubi Rose’s viral tweet, Azar crazy story with her ex and so much more! Put your kids to sleep, light up a candle & get ready for another episode of Truth After Dark!   #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. That black love different. That black love is what you was saying the other day. You was, you don't say that at all. I'm just saying I'm looking at the difference. That black love is different. Her mamas wasn't bad bitches. And that's what men are marrying.

Ruby Rose, your boo, that she was shooting your shot out. That's my boo. You was shooting your shot. I think the ones that I loved, I loved them. I thought they both was the love of my love. Have a man ever broke up with you? No. A man has never broke up with you.

Men don't break up women for real. I ain't gonna lie, I cried over a girl. That's good, you should be vulnerable. I was in the house like damn, I can't believe this. Like damn, oh no, I'm going through it. They say broke men have great sex. Way better sex than anyone. And, you know, they might not be lying on that one.

This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody, welcome to truth after dark. Do you think that men or women, and are more toxic. Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of The Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday. Paul Pierce, the Truth in the building once again.

Nice. How are you feeling? I'm good, man. You know, Halloween is coming up. Yeah. Holiday season. My favorite part of the year, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, all that, rounding out the end of the year.

finishing off the birthday mom feeling good right now okay I love that I love that happy belated birthday um so today we'll hop right in so Gilbert arenas was on neon I guess some streamer name neon stream yeah yeah yeah I know you're talking about yeah yeah yeah we ran into him recent yeah yeah yeah and he said that basically you as a man need a few little hose to get run through to get your confidence back. And he basically referenced Backpage. I don't know if you know what Backpage is. But Backpage was like a site that sold hoes.

And he was like telling him like, do you know Backpage? And he was like, huh? Because he's younger. And then he's like, do you know Instagram? It's the same thing. And he's like, you get a few hoes, run through him. And as a man that's going to build your confidence up. Do you agree with that?

I'm trying to figure out build your confidence. Like maybe an ego boost. No, no, no. I think I kind of, I don't know. No, get you something easy. So, like, now you're feeling good about yourself, maybe? Yeah. I mean, it gets you, like, a bad one that you run through, I guess,

so you can get your ego up. No, that ain't, I ain't going with that advice. Because then you're going to go over there. You're talking about pay, and then when you get into the real, when you got to really kind of mouthpiece something up, that ain't going to work. You got to go through the fire. You got to get rejected 100 times And listen, this is how you got to figure it out

Okay You got to swing for the fences Say you swing, say you go to a party And you talk to 30 girls If five bite, you good Okay If you get five, if you get five the bite You get the number, at least

That's get your confidence going Do you work within that five? Like, that's all that back page, nah, that ain't gearing you up for the real game. Do you think Instagram is the new back page? Yeah, probably so, huh? Right. I actually said that the other day.

Yeah, it is. Girls is really selling their cell phone on Instagram. Yeah. Yeah, for sure it is. It's the more enhanced Herculean back page. Like, Backpage only has so much. Now you can get all type of women. Yeah.

From all around the world. Back page was local. And it was like only, it wasn't as bad. Like, now you can get all types of women. type of women, like regular everyday women, this woman, that woman. It's a lot of options. Man, I had a homie that had a back.

I've never done Backpage, by the way, but he was like kicking him in. It was kicking in one day. He called up a Backpage, right? Yeah, because the back page, I'm not even sure you know what they look like or does there photos on it or I forget the little highest set of. Well, I don't know if it was the phone book or the newspaper or what, but

I remember she pulled up on them and we was playing Domino's. And I was So he was like, yeah, this's the back page. I was like, what? You could just call somebody over the, and they just come over? Yeah, yeah, you know, $100 or something. I would be scared.

Like, you get set up and rough. You got $100 next to you. I know, they, you know, they're doing their one too. I was like, man, let me get on up out of here. I was like, damn, that's crazy. And now Instagram is the modern day prostitution. Yeah. I mean, in so many words,

it's just how you look at it and how you go about it because when you look at girls just the way they promote their self and sell their selves what are you saying? Yeah. Pretty much the same thing.

But as far as like getting your confidence up I'm not sure. You got to get your confidence up by going through the rough and then be like, all right, I got over the hump. Like all that. Now getting out of a slump,

I get it. You can get out of a slump, but getting your confidence It's just two different things. Do you think that men get with certain women just to boost their confidence and be like, okay, I can get her to love me, like making someone fall in love with you?

Like, is that an ego boost for man? Because there's a lot of men that hold on to relationships that they don't really want to be in. Is that an ego boost by getting certain type of women? Yeah, and get them in a certain way too. Like, have them, like, love you or be. beyond you or whatever the case is. Yeah, I mean, men use it for ego boosts, but like,

I don't know, that's a difficult question for me. I'm telling you, like, I ain't never really had no confidence in you. I never really have no, like, get ego boosted issues. Like, from the first time I started talking to girls and having girlfriends, like, in, like, seventh, eighth grade, and, you know, going to the dance with somebody. I never really, like, was, like, afraid to approach a woman or needed my ego to be stroked from a woman. So it's hard for me to, like, really get into that.

Like, but you see certain men and you see them with certain women who are out of their league, I can tell. But then you then as a man, you look at them like, damn, you know, he's probably breaking her off, some bread or, you know, take care of her lifestyle. People are going to assume that, you know, so. But you have to. after wonder sometime, like, you're looking like, damn, she was, yeah, like, oh, okay, okay, you're doing your own thing, huh? It ain't no hate.

It's just like, damn, I know he's doing too much, though. Well, a lot of women are just with men for superficial reasons. Yeah, for sure that. Same with men. Men are with these women for superficial reasons. Like, you know, what, I just want to, you know, get with her for this, you know,

just for the sexual pleasure. Yeah. And that's it. I really, you know, and then it just leads to, like, you know, I don't really like each other at the end of the day. Does a woman's love feel like fulfilling? Does a woman's love?

Because I feel like women are extremely emotional and like expressive. You know, so like for a man, is that an overwhelming feeling or is it like, wow, I feel fulfilled by this type of love? I ain't no greater love than the love you're going to get from like I feel like the people closest to you. And if that's your woman, or if that's your brother, sister, mama, or auntie, you know, because I feel like the best love, I think, comes from family because you can never break up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Like relationships, you just break up. But I feel like this, this is what I feel. People say that the love from your partner is stronger than your family because if you are in a relationship with someone, they're choosing to be with you. Your family is just your family. Yeah, I get it. It's stronger because it's going to be somebody you with every day.

You're going to go through more things with them as an adult that your family don't see. You're more ready. You're more in tune with them mentally and spiritually because you lay in with them every single night. So the love can't grow to be greater. You know, you're not talking to your mama every day like that or your brother or sister

or best friend like you are your partner. Yeah. Who's laying next to you, seeing your deeper secrets and knowing like everything about you and still like, all right. And still being with you

because no one knows you like your partner. Yeah, for sure. Your partner is going to know you more than anybody. And that's why it's more crushing when that breakup. Yeah, for sure. Because like, damn, I just so and gave her or gave him,

you know, as a woman, everything. Yeah. You're like, damn, you just feel like it went down the drains. I gave him my deepest secrets. And then with the society we live in today and the culture we live in today, it's even more heartbreaking because then women and men, they go out there and spill your tea if it don't, if it goes all bad.

Yeah, like, no one. Damn, that's what I hate about this. And everything is incriminating now because if you're texting, people are screenshoting, people are sending people. Like, you don't even want to be vulnerable on a text. You don't want to be vulnerable. Like, because it's like, damn, are you recording? Are you doing, are you, trainjotting?

Are you doing anything? And it's like you would hope you would be with someone that wasn't that petty. You know what I mean? But you never really know. But yeah, that's tough. Now, going into another topic, Gucci Main and Kisha Kior. So they were on the breakfast club and they had an interview about his bipolar and schizophrenia. So he's bipolar and he's schizophrenic.

Yes. Gucci, Maine. Yes. Really? Yes. I never knew that. Yeah, they were on there talking about his. episodes and she said that when he goes through an episode they actually now she helps him

meaning she'll take Twitter off his phone take all the social media apps off his phone like change his password delete everything because he she doesn't want the public to see him having an episode and then she'll tell him like you're sick that's what she said like you're sick right now you're sick and he'll be like okay and she said something and he mentioned how when he would have episodes he would give away things because Kanye West Kim recently on an interview said that Kanye West would give away Lamborghinis and all type of stuff when he had an episode.

And Gucci said he did the same thing and he said and it was really foul because his friends knew he was sick and they would take very expensive jewelry. Million dollars worth of jewelry and everything and he said as soon as I got better and out of jail he said I cut all of those people off

because I'm like you took advantage of me when I was sick and so his wife is a big part of what helps him not have future episodes and like got help for him and he's on meds he said um but the public and the audience is like kind of bashing kim Kardashian now because Kim dealt with the same thing with conning age but she was handling it very differently she said she was just too much for like she can't deal with someone who's having these episodes what do you feel about like at what

point is that scoochie man's girl right his wife yeah is she black yeah she's black Yeah, she's black. See, that black love, different. That's not what she was saying the other day. You was, you don't say that at all. I'm just saying, I'm looking at the difference that black love is different. I'm glad you're saying that now. I have not said it, but it is different.

You know, I think. Black women are loyal to their men. That's what it is the thing, to black men specifically. Well, we got to do the statistics. They said that it's a statistic. You know, I don't know that. I don't know it's not in front of me, but like, you know. An asshole.

But I'm just saying black love is different because, you know, of the, the povertyish communities we come from and we've seen each other go through so much of a struggle mentally that is just like, damn, you know, you can be broken as a kid and as an adult with what the world puts you through. You know, and when you got through, you got through, real strong black ladies. And the reason the criticism is out now

because it ain't, it's a different type of black women now. It's like old school black women are different. We could just say that, but 100%. Like, are my mama and my mama's mamas and like the old ladies that was just like home, making sure they're men and working two or three jobs and

really putting their elbow into it. Your mama's wasn't bad bitches. And that's what men are marrying. Like just keeping it real. yo mammas wasn't that they was big arms cooking in the kitchen getting shit cracking right but men don't want to marry them they could they don't want to marry them type of women men have conditioned women to believe they have to look like this that that that and then their minds are

fucked up the more surgeries you get the more things you got going your mind goes crazy and then you you you change I'm gonna suggest this to men out there like dog if you're a black dude and you got you got you know them arms you know them arms that fold over at the elbow that fold over at the elbow and they flap at the bottom get that one that we're going to know how to get down in the kitchen she got that high booty you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying and she's going to be wearing that that that bonnet in the kitchen cooking up that's the ones you need to get with them is the ones ain't going nowhere that's what I'm saying they're going to get them for you they're going to

make but then men men will get with that type of woman and then they'll cheat with a woman they're sexually attracted to. Because you can't be with a woman that you're not sexually attracted to as a man. You're going to, because you're going to have too much temptation to want what you want. Like there's no way you can't tell me. Men do that all the time. I mean, that's going to fade eventually. We talked about that.

The sexual attraction is going to fade. Okay, let's move on. The mental attraction is going to be forever. The mind is always going to be powerful because when you look at her over there with them arms like that and she in that because you're looking like damn that's my baby right there you know what I'm saying like this is crazy I'm looking at her man she's blood sweat and tears right there and that's a more powerful type of love than like man I ain't really attractive when I do all that now because when I see her doing all that and she getting down that's

attractive let me go grab her up real quick come here girl you know what I'm saying come here yeah but when she starts to undress and y'all are having sex I'm looking through all of that Come here, girl. You're so, you crack it. Get over here. You know what I mean? Okay, we're going to see. Okay, so let's move on from that discussion, okay?

So Ruby Rose, your boo, that she was shooting your shot out. That's my boo? You was shooting your shot publicly. Yeah, Ruby Rose. Okay, Ruby Rose says she'd rather be alone and that women need to stop rewarding ancient man with babies. She got her own bread. She don't need you.

and words, and she's cool. So I'm confused. Do you feel like babies are a reward to men? What you mean a baby is a reward to a man? Do you feel that way as a man? I'm really asking. I don't know. It's rewarding if it's a baby that's had through love.

You know, when you have a kid through love, it's rewarding. Right. But when a baby coming in a day through love, it's just like, messed up right here you know what I'm saying so all that like that's not a game to play you know what I'm saying you don't want to play no games like oh rewarding these dudes with babies I mean I understand that there's men out here that's trying to trap beautiful women and there's women out here trying to trap men too yeah so it goes both ways yeah so don't

look at it is just a one-sided deal because there's more women trying to trap than men trying a trap. Yeah. So women do be trying to trap, but what I'm wondering is, what are you trapping? Because it's like you're going to get a little bit of child support and then you're going to be stressed out. And then I would hate to have a baby with a man that I'm not with. And then I have to have his seat inside of me growing. And I have to watch this man possibly with another woman or create a family out of love. And I'm over here with this baby. Like, I just can't. It will blow me. I would never be able to do that. And I wouldn't want to bring my child into the world already in a broken family.

Like, I feel like there's a lot of women. I get it if you're, like, against abortion or whatever, but I feel like there's a lot of women who aren't against it, but they just want to try to have a baby to hopefully gain something from it. And they end up. It'd be like this. I'm sorry to cut you all. No, go ahead.

No, but, like, a lot of times or sometimes women be having, be like, you know what, I'm going to have a baby to try to keep a man. I think I can keep them if I have it. I know. Where, you know, like, your relationship ain't really as close as you thought it was, but if I had a baby, at least I might have. And with men, too. Men don't have a kid with a lady thinking like, oh, I got that for life.

You know, I could get that for life. Yeah, for sure. But you know what I will say about this really quick is the whole concept of keeping a man because you have a baby is so skewed because even in a healthy relationship, having a baby makes the relationship more difficult, even if you guys love each other, even if you're healthy. So imagine having a baby with somebody you're already on the rocks with. A baby is not going to save your marriage.

A baby is not going to save your relationship. It actually adds dynamics that make it much harder to deal with. So unless you're ready and prepared to have that baby, you guys are on the same page, and even then it's hard. Imagine what's going to happen if, oh, I'm trying to keep this man because we're in a bad place. That's just going to drive a bigger wedge in between y'all. To be honest, I've never been stupid enough to think that.

Yeah. I say that a lot that, like, man, a lot of times a kid be just, it can go one or two ways. It could grow you apart or it can glow you closer. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just the times that we live in because you've got to make the adjustment. Like, when the kid comes, there's an adjustment.

Like, all right, we ain't about to just lay here. Let's get up and go to Vegas Or let's get up and go on a vacation now We got some other A child to care for her Yeah You know and it's like you got a really plan Yeah for sure

And that can get frustrating Yeah For the man and the woman Yeah for sure Y'all got to plan sex You got to plan dates Right You got a plan like

Just a lot of stuff man Okay so There is so this is something that a lot of men have sent on podcasts or like this is a something I've heard so many times in my lifetime. They say that man only have like one true love and it's usually the one who got away. Like maybe they hurt a woman and like they messed up. She got away. And the rest of the people that they're with, they're just trying to recreate that experience, but they don't truly love them. And they're always thinking about that other woman.

that got away. Maybe they were young, they lost her, or whatever the case is. How do you feel about that? Oh, that's a good one. That one true love, which, man, I don't know. It's tough to really like, really like put a finger on that one because I'm like, when I look at the loves of my life, is there one or is there two? Is there just the one that I say got away? I think the ones that I loved, I loved them, I thought they both was the love of my life. Like, especially because I was with him so long, you know, so I don't really agree with, like, there's only one true love in your life.

I don't know how she felt. I know how I felt, because I always think, like, this is it. Yeah. You know, so I'm just like, damn. And I never really look back and say, damn, I was supposed to be. You know what? you never know what it's probably one girl off I actually felt like I probably should have been with yeah but didn't end up with and ended up with a different girl yeah like this was like

this was like in college too this was like a real pivotal moment for me like I was kind of like dating both of them and I had to make a decision but I let them make the decision and I was thinking And like, damn, maybe I should have ended up with the other one. But the one made the decision. And, you know, I couldn't fight it. And we wound up being together for like, you know, six or seven years. Yeah. But, you know, it's nothing I really regret.

You know, I think things happen. And the crazy thing is, you know, even though I ended up being with either one of them, you know, marriage or kids or nothing with them. But I remember thinking that. Yeah. I feel like for women, they say... You ever have one that you think, like, you look back and say, I let him get away? No.

Everyone, I would never look at a man and say he got away. Are you counting crazy? All right, let me ask you. Have you, have you ever, have a man ever broke up with you? No. A man has never broke up with you. Men don't break up women, for real. I broke up with somebody before.

You say, you say this all the time that men don't break up with women. I know I say normally men don't break up women. Yeah, that's very right. And I broke up with a girl. No, my relationships have always been the man is doing foul shit. I'm trying to make it work, make it work. Give, give, give, love, love.

I'm exhausted at that point. Now I'm like, ugh, I don't even want to be with you anymore. And I still try. And then therapy, and then finally I'm like, I'm cool. So you've never, nobody was like, I'm good. No, no, no, no. Damn, for real. No, not at, no, men don't do that really.

Even when you was 280, he wasn't like, I'm good. good? No, but I think that he did a lot of fucked up shit to basically say you're good, but you didn't say that. I mean, I feel like men break up without work, like they do stuff to make you break up with them. And I feel like that's definitely happened to me. Yeah, for sure then. Yeah. So you got broke up with it. Yeah, but when they do it, then they're begging to still be with you. Like, when a man, like, openly just disrespect you. Yeah. Like, he's like, I'm just like, I don't care. I'm openly disrespect. That's like breaking up with you. man they like to do that and then they're crying at your door like what is it like because you you

you wanted to do this now you're crying you can't because all of my exes and I can stand on that hit me up for years you've seen a man cry yeah your boyfriend um yeah I seen a man cry it broke my heart it was the worst experience I'll never forget it I remember the exact moment and it wasn't it was some bullshit because it's like I'm breaking I'm trying to leave you and now you're crying and you're the one that's foul but it's it's it It made me stay with them because it fucked me up. I was like, this is the... I ain't going to lie.

I cried over a girl. That's good. You should be vulnerable. Man, I remember when we was breaking up, man, it was like, this was like early 2000s. I was just like, I was playing that. I was playing all the Usher and Mariah Carey breakup songs. I was like, I was almost going through it. I was in the house like, damn, I can't believe this.

Like, damn. Oh, no, I'm going through it. I was like, damn, I was going through it. You know what? I feel like I technically have been broken up with them, yeah. But I feel like every person that I've, all my exes, they've always double back and like tried to get back with me. Like seriously, like one of my exes, I had to get a restraining order, like for 10 years.

And then another ex, like, I have my exes, most of my exes are blocked because they will hit me WhatsApp, email me, love you, please. like seriously I'm not lying because I feel like they realize after the fact like damn and by then I'm gone because I put years of work all my relationships are years long they're not short they're years have you ever bumped into one of your ex within the last couple years yes yeah yeah yeah yeah I bumped it to my ex um one time where I was on a date oh yeah I was on so this is the craziest story I was on a date with someone that I had just like started talking to and we went to a bar and mind you there was a girl at the front of the bar checking this list of people

but when she saw me she was like hey and she just let us in so I'm like I didn't think it was a private event right the bar we went to ended up being a private event for his and his whole entire family was there and him and everything and we walk in it was his cousin's event

we walk in it's his cousin's birthday i look and i'm like i'm starting to trip out because i'm like is this a dream all of his family people you're on a new you got some new i'm a new date we've been broken up for like a few years at this point okay and so we're so i walk in and he's like no no no he he's been blowing me up always and i like have him blocked he's texting hitting what's app emailing how is he blowing you up and you have a block what's that okay block numbers text me numbers emails calling people like seriously

for years so then I see and he had just recently started it back like literally a few weeks he started going hard again so I'm like because he had piped down

for a minute so I'm in there this man comes up his first his family's like Azar we wanted you guys back together so bad oh my God you showed up they think I'm there

because it's a private event they think I'm there the girl happened to recognize me and then I'm I'm at the bar with my little boo that I'm with. Right, right. And he comes behind me to grab me like this. And he's like, this is God.

This can't be a coincidence. I've been hitting you every day. I've been on your line every day. I know this is fate. I know we're supposed to be together. It was mommy. Okay, so hold on. He'd come up, grab me.

What old boy doing? The new date. Nothing. Because it was too soon. No. No, no, no, no. It was too. Listen to the, listen.

No, no, no, no. I don't know, that was it. That was that, though. It was like, no, it was like, I'm good. I'm leaving type shit. Like, I'm like, come on, let's go. And I was like, all right. But then I kind of fucked up because I was like,

I don't want to feel like this person is controlling my like vibe to where I'm like walking and running away from it. So I was like, let me finish my drink. You know what I'm saying? But it just, it wasn't a good situation. And it's, it's, then they thought it was a setup. I feel like that's disrespectful. And I wasn't trying to be because I didn't know this was

going to happen but I'm like at least us finish the drink like don't let these motherfuckers run us up out of here like they anybody like fuck you listen this is this is the thing if you out on the date I don't care if this is the first day and you just met dude yesterday and your old flame come and just grab you from behind it's got to be like some no for sure it was that you think I'm just sitting there I was like move I was like uh-uh this is crazy it's gotta be like let's go let's leave yeah you're right and it's and it was but I think that where I messed up was like I was super anxiety and this wasn't my relationship

yet, the person that I'm with. But you're right. And so I think in the situation I just got weird and I was like, this is crazy because it's like all the family everyone is staring me down. I'm like, this is, this is crazy.

And the cousin is like a famous rapper. So like they're in the music business. Everyone's there. It's like photographs. It's just a lot going on. Man, you know, I don't know what I did. I probably would have just played to the side just kind of see how you're going to react.

Yeah. I would have just kind of just see how, you know, energy was going to shift. I think that's what it was going on. And then I would have just been a, I would have just kept it player like, oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. You know what? Yeah. I'm going to go over here and see what's going on over here.

But no, it wasn't given like I'm over here. Hey, you were here. Hey, what's up? No, I'm just out here chilling. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't given it was over here. I would have been on some like, hey, what's up? What's up?

Is that your friend over there? Hey, you, oh, oh, I want to double back to you. Like, you. No, but I wasn't disrespectful. I just was like having anxiety about it. I can get overwhelmed. I was like, this is crazy. Like, back up.

You know what I mean? Like, and then we left. We left. We left. You know? Okay, so moving on. Do you, there's, everyone always says this. And there's a lot of men who say this.

Do men know very early on if they will marry a woman or be with her for a long time? Like, a lot of men will say, like, I knew right away or I'll know within a month or I'll know within a month or I'll know within a few months that like this is someone I be with or it's someone I won't be with like we know very quickly and if a man is trying to act like he don't know he's lying and if he's like oh I don't want to be in a relationship after like a certain amount of time he's not really rocking with you because a man knows and if you want to a woman he's going to have her and he's not going to have her like single don't they're desperate man though right away why they got to be desperate because they're desperate oh yeah you're going to be

My one. First date. They're not saying first date. I knew you was the one. They're saying like if a man. They're desperate. You was the one. I knew it.

You ain't had a man say you that out of the rear? Yeah, I have. And they were crazy and I didn't mess with him. Exactly. Because he was desperate. He was thirsty. No, I could tell what a man is different. It's a difference between.

So listen to this scenario. Listen to this scenario. You're dating a man. Not you. I wouldn't know. No, I'm saying like a woman is dating a man. Okay, okay, okay. A woman is dating a man

And they're getting to know each other and all of this It's been months Okay, so she comes to this man And she's like, hey, you know, we're having sex I'm meeting family members We're doing everything, we're intertwining We're with each other every day She asked the man, hey, like, what are we doing?

You know, like I want to be intentional About dating and I want to like If we're going to be spending and investing this much time with you Like, I want us to be in a relationship Like what is this? And he's like, um, like, you know, I don't really, like, I don't like the relationship title thing. Like, I don't want to really be in a relationship right now, you know, whatever the case is. Do you feel like, because he's just not really rocking with her like that, basically?

Because this is the debate. They're saying, like, if a man is telling you, like, no, he don't want to be in a relationship, it's the with you is silent. He don't want to be with you. I can see where he's coming from because his spirit could be broken to where he's thinking about it like seriously you can be messing with a lady

and it's kind of like you got one foot in one foot out and then you just be like when you try to put both feet in through the door you hesitant and kind of scared of that because you didn't been through that before so you like and you're comfortable where it is right there right in that like that middle ground you know what I'm saying so it might take some guys and it may take some girls a little longer to get over that hump of putting both both feet

in the door and so I can see you know because you've been traumatized when you when you overly committed when you went all the way in it's fun it's fun right now I like where we had and then you know I like this speed right now I like the lane we're in but now you're trying to jump into the carpool and all that like hold on hold on well a lot of women claim that though and I've seen it firsthand that those type of relationships never end in a relationship it always ends in them being disappointed or heartbroken like they were investing all this time and then he never ended up wanting to make him the girlfriend and like you know she went she waited and waited and waited and a year passed two years past and they're in this long-term

situation and they just wasted two years of their life with someone who doesn't have a plan on really wanting to be with that. Well, you've got to understand at some point you're just some work. Yeah. So how does a woman, what I'm asking is. If we're committed as a, not even, we're not even talking about marriage, committed to being a group, you just some work. So that's what I'm asking.

I'm saying, at what point, though, should a woman know, okay, I'm just some work? Like, is it three months? Like, where you're doing all of this and a man still just like, no, I don't want to be in a relationship. Y'all know what y'all work. Y'all know. I don't know That's what we're asking

A lot of women need the answer We're trying to get the answer from a man Y'all spending it like you said You all spend it every day Or every other day Every weekend together How every much time y'all spending You know use some work

If you ain't you ain't his girl You know I mean I mean Check this out After about like Let's see After about 10 sexual encounters With the man And it ain't no commitment

You work All right Maybe less than that. It depends on how long you're saying a couple of years. Damn. No, people will be doing that for situationships, back and forth on and not. After like 10, if y'all ain't together, then use some work. That's okay.

That's what the woman want to know. Okay. Thank you. After about 10 times of having sex with the same person, if y'all ain't committed, or you don't see nothing else, you work. Period. Period. And do you think that a woman has to ask a man, like, what are we?

because there's also, like, in my opinion, I think as soon as you have to ask a man that, he's not really, you're not nothing. Because if he wanted you to be like, men are leaders and they're hunters. And if they wanted you to be yours, they would say that. You got to be able to put a reed on the guy.

Like, you got to look at the places he's taking you to eat. You got to see if he's holding your hand in public or certain situations. Yeah. You got to see, like, when y'all out of the day, how he's sitting, how close he's sitting, know how far he's sitting or if y'all in the cut if y'all always in the cut you know what i'm saying

like oh we had this nice restaurant but you in the back corner where nobody can see you all the time if you ain't getting if you ain't seeing all this oh you know tonight it's friday night hey baby let's go let's go uh you know let's go to the game you know but you're in the cut at the game you ain't front row you ain't you know if you let's go you know you ain't you ain't you ain't being highlight it. You know what I'm saying? When he highlighting you, then it's something. Or he's like, let's go to certain cities. He's meeting

you like in Milwaukee or Utah or something. He ain't taking you to New York or L.A. that you are so. I'm crying. That is crazy. And you ain't going to the big cities with him. You go into all the little, you go to like 10 cities, but you're going to like Utah,

Wyoming. You go to like Nebraska. You got to stand that you used to work then he's taking you everywhere in Sacramento he's taking you everywhere these places you brought row at the comedy club in charlotte okay i'm done he's not charlotte okay so this is my last question all right who do you think is more valuable in a relationship a man or a woman who gives more well it's always going to be the man because the man going to always genuine genuinely love the woman for who she is and what she gives to him physically, mentally, spiritually.

You know, I feel like most women give women based on outerworldly things that he can do and give to the woman. so it has to be the man I mean obviously like when you look at the relationships and you like damn you know the man is always taught to be the provider the caretaker all of these strong things and you know women look for that and when a man ain't got that

you like you know he got a good personality but he can't take care of me you know what I'm saying so like women are always looking for the prize not all women though yeah women that's not all women I don't know a bunch of women who be women who don't be having nothing and they just love them love them yeah those you know the four

five and six no not everyone those are the ones they more evenly you'll be surprised how many how many real bad bitches be with like a broke man who they be taking care of who be driving their car Because they live overseas. No, I'm telling you, I personally know, like, you'll be surprised.

Like, it's, okay, so they say broke men have great sex, way better sex than anyone. And, you know, they might not be lying on that one. And a lot of women, they get caught up. Like, I promise you, I'll listen to the story. Better sex? No, I don't know. But let me tell you this, though. I wouldn't know.

I have an exact example. I know someone real bad. bad, beautiful girl, bomb. She lives in a fly penthouse. She's a boss, gets her own bread. Real pretty. She's like up there. She is having a relationship

with the maintenance man in the building. And she's falling in love because she's having sex and women release a hormone when they have sex. And now she's starting to fall in love with the man and maybe he can move in with me. And you know how many bad bitches do that? You will be so surprised.

They don't promote it. or they'll make him look a certain way and present him and give him the outfits and get him on. There's way more of that than you know. There might be more of that. Because they're looking for boy toys. But they fall in love with them.

They started as a sex relationship and they fall in love with them. You think that the person who came on our part, it don't even matter. There's a lot of women who have that situation, honey. Man, she almost let it go. Thank goodness you just saying it. There's a lot of women who have that situation.

I'm just going to say that right now And they will take care of a man all day There's several There's a lot of women like that So I want to be very clear that it's not just Where they hang at? They hang around, I don't know But those are the women

Because you know, you know You know why a lot of women do that too Because a lot of women who are quote unquote bad bitches And get all their bodies in Why do you think they got all their bodies in? Low self-esteem. What do you think women with low self-esteem do? They can get with a man who can make them feel good

because they're lower than them. So I'm going to put you on a pedestal. I'm going to make you feel good. A lot of women like that have gotten their heartbroken from a celebrity man or an athlete or a rich man. So they're like, you know what, my self-esteem is too low? I'm going to go get with a man who worships the ground I walk on, who thinks I'm a boss.

And you don't know how many women do that. I mean, like, I've seen thousands of women that look literally like, oh, the picture of public, model that have that as a man and then a lot of people don't know that the man is broke because they build him up and they make him look a certain way and they give them their card when they go to dinner pay with my card and then when he shit on her then where you go from that's what happens then where you go from that that's what happens most of the time and you know that there's so much that happened like if you look on the shade room oh he i was helping you that hazel e girl i was

she got a man just like that he was attractive put him up did all this oh then he shitted on her and she's like, I gave you everything. That happens all the time. So please don't confuse that. Like, there's a lot of bad bitches, quote, unquote, who do that? And a lot of them bad bitches have mental problems and low self-esteem and they're not mentally right. Like, that's just the truth.

And I've seen it. They're a little slow and they just have these like men that they get because they want to be praised. That's why I say, lead them alone. Period. So, like, don't ever get that twisted. They wish they can be. A lot of women with low self-esteem can't even be with a man.

of that caliber because to be with a man who is rich, successful, handsome, tall, celebrities or whatever, you have to have a high level of self-esteem because you cannot sit there and be with that type of man who gets all that attention every day and you know wherever he goes he's getting women thrown at him and have low self-esteem. You can't. You will be miserable every day crying, stress, cracked out. Like you cannot live like that. So you're going to get with a man who's, you know, not going to do that. Except he's going to end up doing that on you when you boss them up anyways, but it's not going to be on the level

that that man could do it. But the men do it all the time. So I don't have no sympathy for that. I'm not asking you to have sympathy. The men is always bossing up these other, these females that don't go to guys shit, bossing them up. It don't go both ways because more men do it than women.

You'll be surprised. You say thousands of women than millions of men is doing it. Okay. It's never a competition, but I'm just letting you know that it's a lot of women who do that and men do that for women too and both of them get shitted on. That's why the Bible says,

get with someone you're equally yoked with period point blank and that doesn't mean financial people always think it means financial it's a mental thing you need to be with someone that's mentally on that same level period anyways that's what's up that's what's up is great like you have a problem you have a serious problem like seriously seriously anyways thank you guys for joining truth after dark this was a great episode it was a little shorter than usual, but we're going to have more episodes, more frequency, and more things coming extremely soon for you guys. Make sure you subscribe. You tap in. You're following at Paul Pierce. He has a new show called What We Eat in. Y'all will see it on Truth After Dark. Make

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