Club Shay Shay - Cheating On Your Partner, Threesomes Outside The Country, & Open-Relationships | Truth After Dark

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Truth After Dark is BACK! We breakdown some of the current events such as: Michael Blackson’s baby mama drama, Mase’s viral comment about women buying the ring, Nore’s take on men stepping outside of their marriages, and Paul breaks down why men should actually consider cheating in their relationships! Put the kids to sleep, grab your drinks and get ready for another episode! #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. When people make Instagrams for their children and post as if they're the child, it's mentally ill to me. And then they post and they comment and they say, thank you, mommy, and post to the comment to yourself. It's sick. She should be out of there. As soon as he nuts and it should not be from you, it has to still be from me,

then you have to go. It's no bed in the night. It's no, I'm sleep and I'm not going to sleep until you're out of there. Is there really, like, good vagina and, like, not good vagina? And what is that difference? You really want to know if a girl love, you need to go out and cheat on her. Like, I'm losing my mind. this is the taking over the game all right everybody welcome to truth after dark do you think that

men or women are more toxic hello beautiful people welcome to another episode of the truth after dark. I am your host is our Faraday. What up? The truth is in the building. The truth is in the building. Another week back at it. Another week back at it. Yep. Back at it again.

There's some stuff going on, man. Yeah, it's some stuff. So we're going to hop right into the stuff that's going. So Michael Blackskin, he has a whole situation with his wife. So I guess basically he ended up having a child. outside of their relationship. Wait, but they was an open relationship, right? From what I heard, they were open. But he did have a baby with one of his female friends.

And that's not cool? No what I'm saying? Like, if it's open, that should be cool. Well, I think when people are open, I don't know all the details, but clearly it's not cool. So clearly it was something against whatever agreement they had. Maybe they had an agreement where sometimes

of people are open, the agreement is like, we mess with women together. Or I, you know, it's the thing we do, me and you, or I approve. But whatever the case is, it's obviously not okay because he's apologizing on, you know, line to her. And she went ahead and I will summarize, but she did write something to her son online

as if he's going to read it. And then just said, I want to share something from my heart, basically to her son. son, I'm sorry for bringing you into a world in a situation that wasn't what you deserved. Even though I can't change the past, I promise you now that you are here, I'll do everything my power to give you the life and love you deserve. You will never have to question whether you're loved.

You are my heart. And then he came out and posted his new baby and said, good day to my family, friends, and fans. The last few months, God has blessed me. But in blessings came a lot of pain. Two months after his wife gave birth to little Mikey, a female, friend. I've known for over five years also gave birth to my son, King.

Blacks. Anyways, he apologized to her. I hope she forgives me for the pain I've brought to her. I'm going to do my best to be a loving father. To avoid turning into Nick Cannon or Elon Musk, I'm only dating women that run out of period or how to hysterically. Run out of. Damn, so

they're not together no more? Well, she then responded. I don't normally respond, but let's just agree that was the most pathetic post or apology ever. goodness um and she said basically she said at this point she's done joining the circus because he was a clown oh my god and she stayed in the circus for too long and his type was never me because i'm a real woman this is what happens when you hold a demand down 100% see this is my opinion on that you you come to the circus we go on tour we perform and then all of a sudden

you, this is what you signed up for, but just now you ain't feeling it no more. Like, come on, this supposed to just, this, we're supposed to keep this going. Like, this is what you, I don't understand women who get in the open relationships and men. Like, this is what comes with it. Now, if you're okay and, like, like, to me, open relationship means it's open. What we're together. So those say what I can, I can't do, because that's not what open is. So now I have another kid, and now you.

You ain't feeling the circus. And I'm like, damn, like, what happened? See, women getting into relationships, and it's cool at first. And then y'all be together for a long time. And this is what it was. But then you stopped being cool. This is how we got cool. And now you, this, now it ain't cool.

See, that's, man, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, I can't but, you know, this goes back into what I was saying, men and women can't be friends. men and women I see every single day oh he was my friend for five years now we're married oh he was now my female friend had a baby like I do not give a fuck what nobody says men and women

cannot be friends period like it's some tricky shit always and that's just the truth I don't agree I agree 100% and I'm constantly proven right and the only way they can be friends is if a man is really genuinely not attracted to that woman

or the woman friends owned him but the moment she does anything thing that remotely makes it seem like he could get it, she, it will change, period. So when you was like that, like your other person, did you have friends? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying you wasn't attractive, but you was like another person. When I was 280? Yeah, did you have friends?

Like other friends outside your boyfriend? No, I didn't. No, because it was disrespectful. All right. So, I'm just saying, like, if it's open, a relationship, it opens the door for other things. So now you gave me that. I agree. I'm not denying that.

So what's the issue with it? And now that a kid becomes involved and especially, see, this hurts my heart when you have a young one that's like four months and now it's like, it's over with or, you know, And it's just like, damn. But he has two young ones. Now you have a baby with a whole other situation. And as a woman, being honest, a man with a newborn baby in a relationship is a very difficult thing to deal with. And you got to really love that man because bringing a baby outside of your relationship

into this world while in a relationship. While in a relationship and having another baby on the way or getting that baby, that's some fucked up foul shit. And it feels even if whatever the situation is, it's hard. It's difficult. And it takes, no, but it doesn't matter. They're not open in that sense. They probably, whatever they did, they had an agreement because he's clearly apologizing and saying he fucked up.

So whatever they were open, you don't know what their record deal was. Yeah, you don't know what people's record deal is. No one knows what's in Beyonce's record deal. No one knows what's in their record deal with him and her. They had their own situation moving. So we can have as many opinions as you want, but he's clearly apologetic for what he has done. So clearly he broke some type of rule within what they decided. within their own relationship.

No one knows what y'all have going on, but y'all. Now, to me, I'm sick of women going on penning a whole note to their son that's two months old. Like, it takes a level of mental illness for people to make Instagrams for their children. No, when people make Instagrams for their children and post as if they're the child, it's mentally ill to me.

Like, I will not deal with it. That is the weirdest shit to me. And then they post and they comment, and they say, thank you, mommy. and post to the comment to yourself it's sick I just saw something

no but I just saw an influencer the other day and someone posted about it and she posted herself pregnant and made an Instagram for her unboard child and then said mommy is that me and replied

this is what people are doing I see it all the time I've seen people in my own family do some stuff like that and I told them I said that's sick like why do you have an Instagram for your child and you're writing captions

as if you're the child mommy took me on a day like that That's mentally disturbed. What about the people who have Instagrams for their dogs? No, I mean, I think if you're not right, I just, I can't, I can't do any of the things. Yeah, I just, I'm just saying it's crazy. And me personally, my kid does not need to have an Instagram, period, like when they're not able to use it themselves as a fucking adult.

My thing is, if me and someone has an open relationship, then that's what open me. If we discuss open, everything goes. Okay, so we're going to move on to that. Damn, that's crazy. Well, I get what you're saying. And I think once you open that door, you open the door to a whole bunch of other things. You open the door to this type of stuff happening.

You open that door, unfortunately. And that's why as a woman, even if you know a man might slip up and do something, you never make it seem like that's ever going to be okay. Like, I'm never going to be, even if I know in my heart like, damn, if this man cheated on me, I probably wouldn't break up my family

because I love this person and I don't want to leave him and I probably would stay. You know what I'm saying? But I'm never letting him know. Like, you're going, and I'm still going to be crying and you're still going to have to make it up

and build the trust. But I mean, you don't make a man feel like he could just get away with anything. But this is my thing. So like, if I say me and you in a relationship and you say we open and I say, all right, let's have an open relationship.

That means I like having sex not only with you, but other girls. Yeah. So it's like... Every man likes having sex with other women, all type of women. But now you agree to it. Yeah. But now I have a girl that agreed to it.

Oh, I'm in heaven now. Okay, so now, you know, maybe it's under your terms, but like, what if it's a girl that me and you was with together under your terms, but I had something with her... Yeah, that's the problem that happens. That's what you open that door. Like, without you. That's what opens the arm.

Because you're not around right now. or you nine months pregnant. Yeah, that's blowing me. I'm not doing that. And what else is blowing me is like if I would, I'm not open. Like to me, a threesome, I'm not really feeling that. But I always said like maybe if I went out the country, it was a random woman. We would never see her again and we did it.

Maybe I would do it. But like it blows me like if I'm asleep and I wake up, someone just asking this and I wake up and my man is having sex with that woman. With that girl. I'm losing it. No, you and you was drunk passed out. Oh, she should be gone. As soon as, there's two things.

She should be out of there. As soon as he nuts and it should not be from you. It has to still be from me. Then you have to go. It's no bed in the night. It's no, I'm sleep and I'm not going to sleep until you're out of there, ho. And if I wake up and you're riding something next to me, I'm, it's every, it's blowing me. I'm losing it.

Like, I'm losing my mind. What you mean you doubling back on the sex? Hold on, we was, you know, we was watching a movie. You shouldn't be watching a, see, this is where men's saying. Why are you watching a movie with a horror? Because you fell asleep. Because we, that's what we was all doing. No, she's, we're not watching.

That's where I draw the line with it. It would never get to that. Well, wake up. We're not watching movies. Anyways, so let's move on to the next thing. That would blow me. I'm not having, that's my biggest thing. Like, I'll do it, but the bitch has to go.

I made some wings. You were asleep. We ate the wings. You're not making food. No. We can't do not. No. There's no making food

Like what are you talking about There's no eating after I don't even want to know her name I don't even want us to know the name of the girl And you set it up though You know it was a pickup We're out the country It was a pickup

She's there She's at the club or something Okay cool we did that You gotta go We never see you again We're not exchanging numbers We don't know your name I'm never gonna see you

And this man is never going to see you ever again You're out You're out of there That's the only way I would do that three some that's the only way and i'm done after that and then i don't even want to ever see licking my toes you walk into the toes getting lit i'm out i'm not even doing this no more because this is crazy this is mommy anyways let's move on so mace he has a viral clip right now wait mace cammon mace okay murder mace murder mace okay mace has a viral clip right now where he

said that he was with a woman and she wanted to get married. So he asked her to buy the ring if she was really serious about the proposal. So what with that? So you think that, okay, like you're in a relationship and I'm like, hey, I'm serious. Did she propose to him? No, he's saying that, okay. Oh, she said, I wanted to get her married. And she said, like, imagine, you're in a relationship, babe, I want to get married. I really want to marry you. I want to do that commitment. Go give me a ring. So not you a ring, buy your own ring. Buy your own ring.

Yeah. Go buy your own ring and I'll use, and then we could, if you're that serious about me, go buy your own ring. Ooh, that's a bar. Ooh, I'm a, damn, I'm a, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me put this in my notes. Oh, yeah. So you think that a woman should buy her own ring if she wants Amanda to marry her?

Oh. I mean, if you wanted earlier than me, yeah. like you want to get married and I wasn't on that thought process but he said go get the ring now and I will is that not worth it? I'm never, I'm never ever forcing a man to marry me so

it's not worth it to me. It is. If you want me to go out of by a ring because first of all, I'm never even telling a man. Would these rules even come from? No, no, no, no, no. It's not a rules. It's, for me personally there's a reason. It's an order and when things are out of order

it's not cracking. And that's a fact because for me if my man is saying first of all i'm not bringing up marriage i've never brought up marriage in any of my relationships because that's just like i'm not pressed you want to marry we'll figure it out secondly also i'm not going to be like oh i'm not ready to get married so let me go get the ring because that's a level of like i'm forcing and go to cage jewelry and get a cheap ring and that's ain't that a ring it's not about the price it's about the thought of it's about the thought of if a man don't want to marry you

and you going out to buy a ring that's just burnt out on so many different lovers as a woman like I don't even care what the man is saying as a woman I would advise no woman to ever do that because it's not about the price it's not about the ring it's like if as a woman you have to

do all of that to get a man to want to marry you no it ain't that let me tell you something I think sometimes men be with women and say like you with everything's all good and y'all lovey-dovey and y'all ain't never really tested love ain't really been tested

like y'all ain't really been through nothing yeah that'll tell me a lot that'll tell me a lot if a woman goes by the rain yeah because think about it like you really like I told you you you did love get tested when you go through something yeah for sure love get tested like we can just be lovey-dovey and say we love each other and it's all rainbows and roses but then

you ain't really been through something because sometimes you go through one thing and y'all break up oh that was that was that that was built on like that wasn't real i don't care what no one says that's a play play relationship i'm like oh it's kind of real okay she done to do that that's gonna tell me something then she come back with it i'm like damn you really did that so you know what go get your money back i got you maybe that was a test maybe that's what the test was to figure it out like that ain't that's a real one that is that is a test I don't believe that's a test. I believe that.

I put you all through something to test. You're going to go through tests. It has nothing to do with me going to buy a ring. Life is going to test you. And yes, I agree. If someone breaks up what you or leaves you off of the first test, that relationship wasn't built to last. That was a play-play relationship at the end of the day.

We wasn't serious and we didn't have shit moving because you are going to be tested on so many different levels. You don't have to create tests for your partner. You are going to be tested all the time by God because anything powerful and two people coming together that are equally yoked. that are creating a powerful movement in the world is going to be tested. And if you're a man of God, you know that the devil don't come for his own people

because they're already over there with him. The devil comes for the light, the powerfulness, the angels. They come for those type of people. So if you get two of those people together, you don't have to create no test. Y'all are going to be tested all the time with a lot of different things. Maybe that was the final test. No, that ain't the fight. It's not your, if you a man of God, it's not your job to test nobody.

That's not your responsibility. that's God's job. So don't preach that and then say you creating tests or vengeance or this on people because that ain't for you to do. Moving on. Moving on. So anyways.

This cat's out here like really, if you really want to know if a girl love you need to go out and cheat on her. Let's see. If you really want to know if a girl love you for real, go cheat on her and see how she's,

react. Now we're going to see what's real. I'm just saying, like, I don't know. Tell me, but tell me. Tell me. I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you something. Let me tell you something. If you really want to know if a girl. If a girl really love you, go out and cheat on her. Okay. And if that girl loves herself more than you, then you ain't got no chance in the world. She should. Exactly. So you want to be with a woman with low self-suffer. that's the type of advice you're giving young man that's love that's just love yeah it is to a certain degree but that's not something that listen just because i might decide i'll stay with someone you don't god will god will trust me there's going to be tests that you can't even think of you've been

through so many tests in your life that you couldn't create it if you wanted to trust me so stop trying to tell young men to go cheat on their women to test them like that's the worst advice you can I said if you want to know if a woman love you. That's the worst advice you can give anyone. So won't you give me some advice of how do I find out if a girl love me? I just told you you're going to be tested in different ways. How do I find out? What's the test?

Give me an example. Women don't deserve to struggle just to have love. Well, it go both ways. I'm saying that, but it go both ways for the man, for the woman. Let me, if you want to see if a man love. Go cheat on. I'm going on. I'm going to see what you see what.

I feel like at the end of the day, it's really, really important to be, very aware of the messages that you put out into the universe, but I will say this. There are going to be testing relationships that you do not even know are coming to you. And I don't believe that cheating and infidelity is the only test that you can have in a relationship. There's a lot, a lot. And I feel like at the end of the day, there are some women or men that feel like I can't deal with cheating.

Everybody can deal with something. There's some women that could be like, I don't care if he has no money, but I can't deal. man. Well, that's cheating. Some woman I could deal with a rich man, but I can't, I can't deal with a broke man, but I can deal with some cheating. There's a lot of different things. You find someone who's worth it and you find what works for you. Cheating might not work for Mary up the street who ain't never seen nothing like that. That might break her down and shadow her in a way that she can't even explain to herself or anyone around her. But she may be able to deal with a lot of other stuff. Love is enduring what you and your partner can give, but you have to understand

your partner enough to know what that is. You get to know each other. You understand each other and you understand who somebody is and you know you can't change nobody, period. So no, you don't cheat on your partner to figure that out. If that happens and that's a crossroads you guys have to deal with, I know I would probably be willing to stay if everything else was in alignment for me, But not everyone is doing that. You got to set it up. Like I'm going to set it up today. I'm going to call her up.

I'm going to be, tell the homie, like, tell my girl, I'm going to be in this club. But I'm going to be with some work. Let's see how she react. When she walk in and the girl is on my lap or something. Yeah, I, I, I'm a motherfucker don't want to do that to me. I'm going to keep it real. If she whoop, if she whipped that, if she, She whipped her ass, she loves you.

And y'all, cool. And she walk out of there and hold your head, she love you. That's so toxic. That's toxic as hell. I do believe that there's a level of thing you have to put your, you and your partner will go through. But it's inevitable. You don't have to create no extra test. It's inevitable.

One thing I will say, it don't have to be sex. Sex ain't always. I know, but what I'm saying. Well, my arm, like if I got my arm around another girl, does that cheating? It's just disrespectful. Is it cheating? No, I wouldn't say it's cheating. And I'm not going to think that's not going to end all relationship.

Okay. Like that is pretty. If you walk in and I'm kissing another girl, is cheating. Kissing. Yeah, kissing is cheating. Like the. Kissing another girl that's cheating. Yes.

If you're harm around or like touch you, whatever, that's not necessarily cheating and that's not anything you're going to break up. But it's like if you're kissing, that's blowing me. And honestly, like I said, to whom much is given, much is tested. You do not have to create no test for your partner. If you guys have a powerful relationship to whom much is given, much is tested. You will be tested.

Listen, even Jesus. Okay. Tested. Are you comparing yourself to Jesus? You know, this is blowing me. Are you Jesus? No, but he tested the love of Abraham, right? Okay.

Did he not? You're not Jesus. You went to God, right? You went to the God and you went to all of that. Now, God will let you know. yeah Jesus tested Abraham right or was it wait wait who was it uh was Abraham the Jesus tested he took his family took and he tested his faith he tested his Joe it was Joe right he tested Joe like he wanted to see his love okay so I'm just saying

so I wanted to see the love okay well you you might see a lot more than love he tested Joe that's what I'm saying so anyways This is the perfect segue. Noriega was on Angie Martinez podcast. And he said, if you can disrespect your girl and cheat, I do not trust you. What are you going to do to me? If you are disrespecting,

if you are cheating on the woman who you live with, create a life with, who is your girl, who is your partner, if you can cheat on her, what can you do to me? You ain't going to treat me right. You talking about his homie?

Yeah, his home. me. He said he judges men that do that. He don't want to do business with you and he don't want to fuck with you. Nor are you looking for some female fans with that one. He didn't been around. No, I've heard a lot of men say like, and usually I hear white men say this, but they're like, I don't trust

well, others. I don't see just a white. I always see, I always see others say this. They say like, I don't like to do business with men who cheat on their wives. Because if you can cheat on your wives, you'll cheat in business, you'll cheat in other things. Like, I don't trust that. I always see like certain high caliber men say that, that are not black.

He's the first black man I actually heard say that same concept of like, I don't trust you if you can cheat on your woman. Because if your woman is the person who's doing all of this for you and is here for you every day and you could cheat on her, what can you do to me? I'm not even giving you half of what. That's not. No, that ain't meant because I'm just doing business with you.

That's it. I'm just doing business. This ain't got nothing to do with love. I don't even have to know the person I'm doing business with all that well. I just know that he do good business. Yeah, but not just business. He's saying like just friendships, too, like his homies. Like, how can I get?

What you're going to do to me if you're doing this. If I'm sharing with my homie and I know he married and he out cheating on his wife and I'm seeing it right there, that's for her to find out. Not me. I'm not trying to get in the middle of all that. I don't like, I'm still going to be cool with him. That's on him. Like, that's his, you know, his doing. I ain't going to discredit him.

That's my homie still. I love I love him over different. reasons. If you're out with your, let's say you're out and you see some, you see your homeboy, like your cool, close homeboy girl.

And she's out with a man. And she's booed, she's kissing, and this is your close homeboy's girl. Are you saying something? Ooh, let me see. If he booed up, this is my dude? Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I saw it. I don't know if like, see, I'm not going to jump to conclusions

because like from the outside looking in, I don't know with the situation. I don't know if they have an open relationship. So I'm going to ask them like, you know, do y'all have an open relationship?

I'm going to ask other questions before I just go straight. Hey, I saw her. People would like to jump to a conclusion. I don't like to do that. So I'm going to be, I'm like if she see me,

I'm going to let her see me and I'm going to see how she react to me. And then I'm going to figure out what the mold is. I ain't going to look from afar and then go back because that's what people be doing.

And that's how people ruin relationships because they don't know really what the hell is going on. Yeah, and I fuck with that. Like, I need to be more in depth to really see. I'm, I ain't going to just make a judgment off of what I see from afar.

I'm going to be like, hold on, let me go over there. That's the homie girl. I might say something. What's up, sis? How are you doing everything good? You know, see what the vibe is. And if she's comfy,

then I don't got nothing to say. I ain't got nothing. Is she comfortable? Yeah, but you can look comfortable. Because she don't get uncomfortable. If I come over there. No, because you can play it off. You can be like, hey, bro,

this is Darnell Oh my god Yeah When I talked to the homie I was like yeah I saw a wifey yesterday with Darnell Yeah I see what he say

Oh yeah that's her brother No they was kissing in the tongue and down No you gotta be a little more low than that But they wasn't They was lit they didn't They thought they was low They was an exclusive setting You just happen to be in that exclusive setting too

Nah All right You better be a little more low than that If you are married and you're out kidding. No, you can't do that. Do you believe, so there's a woman going viral on the internet and she's showing off her ring, right? And she's like, listen, they told me not to cook for him.

They told me not to clean. They told me not to listen to him. They told me, told me, told me, told me, they all told me not to do this, all my friends. And now I'm about to get married. That's why I didn't listen to y'all. So that's going viral. And basically they're asking the question.

question is, are women really the downfall of other women's relationships? 100%. 100%. Crabbs in a barrel. Because when they're down, they're going to pull each other. They want you to be like the, come on now. Like, man, I solely believe that marriage has been ended. When girls be friends and one get divorced and the other one starts still hanging with her and she just telling her giving her all her back energy because her shit wasn't right.

And then now it leaks into your shit. You know what I'll say, though, too? I really believe this. I feel like women have a tendency to vent only the negative stuff because they want to get it off. So they call their friend and every negative thing that ever happened, they told him about it. And then their friends are like, girl, I don't like him. He ain't shit. He's a la, and then ever since that, they're not feeling him.

And now everything he does is like, what? Like, and then they're now their friends mean so much to them that it's like they're getting in her head every day. Well, girl, what is he doing? like I've had girls where I'm out and I don't even know these girls like that and like I'll be out with someone they're like oh who's talking to your man who's that like girl what get out my business

because I'm not that person like I'm not gonna I learned at a very young age and I hope more women learn this stop telling your business to your friends they're gonna be the downfall because they're gonna now judge him and what's crazy is a lot of those people if they were in the same situation as you

they would probably stay because they're not in the situation and they're not emotionally bound and they don't know the rest of your relationship they're going to judge everything about your relationship that's why i always say married couples should have married friends because if you do have a situation to where you're going through something like you got somebody you can lean on that probably been through the same thing you've been through and y'all can kind of bounce off each other and heal where you got these girls who ain't got nothing and you constantly going to them or they going through it they're going to try to put you

through it too that's why i'll be saying like but your merry friends can do that too sometimes if they're like whatever they have a certain standard or they're unhappy like there's certain stuff for sure because it's like for instance what we talked about where everyone's willing to put up with some women might never ever put up with no cheating is what they say and some cheating happens they're like no girl my man would never like sometimes it could make it worse sometimes because women will be like, no, my man doesn't do that. He shows up and then they're sending pictures of what the man's doing on the Instagram

and he bought me all these flowers for Valentine's Day. What does your man do? Oh, well, we don't really celebrate. This is what I hate that women do. Y'all compare what y'all men are doing for y'all. And then you're looking like, I wish my man would be doing what he's doing.

And I just talked about this with Heather because she actually said she feels that. She used to feel that with her man to where she would see on Instagram all this stuff and she would send it to him and be like, yo, what, what, like, see this? Like, why am I not getting this? And I had to say, don't compare that. Yeah, I said, I said, I say you can't compare because comparison is the thief of joy. You don't even know what kind of situation they're doing and you don't know that half of these people wouldn't be doing that if Instagram didn't exist. Yeah. It would be a bouquet and a dinner,

not all these 20 million bouquets filling every single inch of the home and all this extra out stuff because it's an Instagram content world now. You know what I mean? And I feel like women do the comparison stuff. So even sometimes when women are in relationships, it can be difficult because they're going to do a comparison thing. And they're going to be like, well, my home girl, you know what I'm saying? Well, my man did this. And he would never cheat on me. Like, whole time he's cheating and you just don't know. No, I'm just kidding. But you know what I'm saying? So I do think it's very important no matter what. You have your one or two people that you know you can trust that you were not going

judge you and that have a level don't take advice from people you wouldn't want to switch lives with i don't if i look at your marriage and it's raggedy as hell i'm not taking advice from what you're saying like you got to go take advice for people who've been together a long time yeah stable you know sometimes it may not be the friend it might be like a sister or a pastor yeah or like somebody like something like you know damn come on let me have a talk with like how did y'all make it so long like how did y'all what did y'all go through anything and most couples who've been together longevity and has decades of marriage together,

they've been through something, more than one thing. A thousand things. And that's the truth. And that's why- They probably separated at some point. Yeah, 100%. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you go through a lot of stuff

when you are together for a long time. And I think people who look at things from a perspective of like, we've been together for 20 years, they're able to look at it and be like, oh, this is something you're going through, but they're not like, this is extreme end it right now today it's over you know what i mean yeah anyways we've got to put y'all

to the test man we got to make sure so what is the test and the test is not for you to create the test is going to be given you're going to be given a test multiple if she can't make me some some lobster pasta first time through and it'll be bombed then we're going to have to have an issue I mean, what kind of test? Like, you don't want the other test. That's stupid. But I can make a bust and lobster. So listen, let's get back into what we're talking about.

So there's a man, and he takes a trip for his 40th birthday alone because his girlfriend couldn't afford her half. Whoa. That's blowing me. I'm tired. I'm tired. like she couldn't afford her half of the trip and this is his girl yeah and this is and this and so he just was like bye and went on the trip alone no i don't know where he went damn she couldn't afford her half of the trip for his birthday that's boss that's a boss move he probably wanted to go to london or

something that's right i'm not dealing with that like you know what man this is going to cost this going, this is going to cost me a grip. Man, can she get, she can't get there? It's my birthday. This is what I want to do. I mean, this only get $1.40. Damn, I ain't mad at that kind of. Like, she can't afford her half, because I can't afford her half.

So if she can't afford it, I'm going to. He can't afford it. No, you didn't say that. You didn't say that. I assume that he didn't say, I can't afford that. I can't afford that. I can't afford her half, but this is what I want to do for my 40. And if she can't afford her half, then this is what I want to do.

so what you how you mad at him you just got to be like I'll see you when you get back you can't be mad at that if the trip would have cost him like 3,000 he can't spend 6,000 and she can't afford to 3,000 it's just a plane ticket and you already have to stay somewhere

you got to understand what the trip is you got flight hotel food you're staying in the same hotel so if you booked it you booked it so flight the only flight round trip then you know it's like man, how many days? And I'll say, it might be seven days.

It might cost $3,000. For the room, you're already booking it. So what's the difference? You're going anyway, so you have the room. That's the most expensive part. No, the room ain't the most specific part. Because I'm going to be wanting to do something for my 40. I'm going to do this.

And you're going to do that regardless if I'm there or not. Yeah, but I'm saying if she can't afford her half. I'll share the food. I just have a few bites. You'll share the food. Yeah, I just need four nights. That flight might be the most expensive thing. No.

Yes. How are you going to say? Because the room. The room might not be. How are you going to say no? You ride first class for almost forever. You don't know regular flights how much they cost. Like you telling me, like we talk about people who can't afford shit,

they're like, I'm in that category. I was in that category. Like, let's keep it real. I know what not affording and what these flights are hitting for. You want to talk about the flight is more than the trip. Have you took an affordable vacation? I mean, a flight, say, I want to go out the country for affordable. What if I want to, you blow me.

You blow me. A flight over here costs like $10,000 to go overseas. And I got the passport. There's not, that's not the type of flights people are taking. He might be taking that. No, she can't afford. No, she can go into a coach seat. It's never going to be $10,000.

Round-shirt? I know you don't, yes. I know you don't know that lifestyle. Look it up. Oh, I don't have to. I've traveled. So you've been to Africa for how much? I'm done it.

I never said Africa. Like, that's what do you want to go? Whatever. Moving on, moving on, moving on. Man. Because you blow me. So today's question. Okay.

We're actually going to go into some other stuff really quick. Really quick. We got on the agenda. What do you feel like are the unspoken rules of the talking stage? So when people are just dating, they're not boyfriend and girlfriend. Are you allowed in that stage to date and talk to other people? Yeah, the unspoken rules, if we're just talking and I'm out or another girl, don't come up to me. Oh.

But what if we're talking to... And you see me over here? with somebody else and we're just in the talking stage then the unspoken rule is don't come over here saying hi what you've been up to don't do that

you see I'm out with somebody else right now we just talking be cool and I'm gonna do the same thing if I see her out okay she will okay I'm moved in another yeah I can respect that

you know what I respect that that's a unspoken rule don't do that don't come over like I want to go to your table be like hey why you didn't call me last night yeah that's true come on that's what you can say

if we're just in the talking dating stage don't do that Yeah, you're dating. Now, are you communicating like, I'm dating other people, like, or is it just unspoken that week? Do we got to, you said the unspoken? Okay, but like, for instance, what if we start to have sex? Is it okay? Because I personally am not okay with having sex with somebody who has sex with other people.

I would not, I'm not, knowingly, obviously probably happened. See, this is the problem with you females. You females. No, seriously. Like, y'all start dating a dude, and the first day you have sex, y'all pretend like y'all got what to do. Like, we didn't establish that. We just had, we was in the moment. So like, don't, if I have sex with you and then the next night you see me over here

at the spot with somebody else, that don't mean we go to, like, don't come over here like, what you're doing. No, we didn't establish that. Yeah, that's why I'm not having sex until that's established. Yeah, don't, we didn't establish. That's why women shouldn't have sex. So now I'm going to have to embarrass you in front of everybody. Why do you have to embarrass the person?

Because you're embarrassing me now. Because I'm saying, like, if we have sex and we, you know, and. And you come over and I'm on another date and be like, excuse me, all that shit. Like, hey, what's wrong with you, Shorty? Hey, you better step back. Hey, hey. And I'm at the table with another.

Like, come on. You embarrassed me now. Because we didn't establish that we was together because girls, when you have sex with them one time or the first time and we ain't established we were together, they think that, yo, man, your girl or something. Off top is just, okay. You know, if you're out of here and like,

is this going to be exclusive? Like, come on, you got to say that. I personally will say this. Don't be having sex with these men, honey. You need to wait until these men are being attentional and serious because women, like, nothing is casual about sex for women. You entering my... I don't believe in casual sex.

You don't. It's not casual. You don't. First of all, stop pointing at me. Put the finger down. Put the finger down. No, no, no, no, no. Listen to what I'm saying.

Sex for women. is not casual because every time a man enters you whether you have a condom on or not you risk getting pregnant being pregnant is not casual nothing about that is every time a man enters your body with a condom or not you sex you you get you can risk a disease period point blank yeah but it's more intense for a woman because some when a key enters a hole right not everybody at the end of the day has no listen to what I'm trying to say a man at the end of the day entering a hole is different from a woman being entered a woman being entered is nothing about that is casual and that's for every woman if they want to play a game and act like it is they can but scientifically a woman

releases a hormone while they have sex that makes them fall in love I don't know the name of it but it's a true thing so at the no men don't release that hormone they don't it's a scientific thing men don't women do so the more you have sex with a man the more likely you are to fall in love. You are risking yourself. You're putting yourself in a really bad position and nothing about sex is casual. Period. You end up pregnant. You end up having to have an abortion. You end up taking a plan B. All of those things are harmful for your body. Period. Point of blank, those are things that men don't have to deal with. You end up with a UTI. You end up with bacterial vaginosis. You end up with pH balance off. These are all things that women deal with

that make sex not casual for women. And the reason women want to have sex with you and now they feel like they're in love, is because you are entering their body. I mean, you enter my body. So they're going inside of you? Yeah. When? How? In sexual intercourse.

A penis, you're going on a penis inside it. You're not inside of your body. Yes, you are. Paul, the only way that a man gets entered is through the anal. There's no way that a woman is entering your body during sex. Well, you're smothering my body. you're smothering me I'm screaming me

I'm screaming get me off the pod this man is crazy you're smothering me sex is not casual it's not and women should stop having casual sex because it always ends in some fucked up shit for a woman it's heartbreak it's embarrassment

it's a man being like girl we ain't even given all of that I want to know how did they scientifically study that their hormone goes off when the man enters one. So somebody was having sex and they was doing a test? Yeah. Like how? Yeah. How? How?

They do test on animals like that. And then they test humans too. No, they test the animals and then they test the humans. No, but they test the humans too. No, so I'm going to see who's the first. Who's the first? I was laying there with their partner. And they had the whole MR.

they did it in the MRI or something. They was in the MRI and they saw the neural part of the brain. I don't know, but we'll have to look at the studies. They need making up shit out here. No, it's not a made-up thing. Okay. So do you think that when it becomes exclusive, a man needs to ask directly, like, will you be my girl?

Does it have to be a clear, like, we're together? Yeah, he has to tell her, you're my chick. He's telling her, he's not asking. No, he's telling her and then I'll see what she's like, okay. Or, no, I'm not ready for that. Okay, cool. Okay. Okay, got you.

Yeah, you got to tell her. You don't have to ask. Tell her, if that's how you feel as a guy. No, we're exclusive. Okay. Is post nut clarity a real thing for men? Explain that again? So postnut clarity is when it's like you're filling a girl,

and then as soon as your nut, you're like, oh. Well, let's call, have a, what? Post nut clarity, that's what it's called. So it's like you're feeling a girl, and then once you nut, you're like, say something else. That's what they call it. They say post, not clarity. Once you, you know, finish.

Okay. Then you're like off of her, like, ugh. Like, because they say like, you never heard of this? Yeah, I mean, I understand that language. Okay, like now you're just like, I shouldn't have did that. Yeah. Like, are you, like, is that a real thing like clarity after you? finish and you're like oh like that is that is that is like yeah it's like I'm disgusted with

myself no I'm like I'm tricky oh you feel bad it'll ruin your day like damn I shouldn't did that I'm like oh and is it just like is it because what like you cheated usually or is it because she's like someone that's just not given it could be a number of things it could be like it could be like you cheated or it could be like you was lit or it could just be like you're not attracted you look and you see that

that after that wake up and you look at that not that nighttime that wake up you're just like damn what did I do I'm great it'd be a lot of shit that's going it's different you know I don't know it's just where I was like damn you just get caught in a moment

and you just like damn I was tricky yeah that'd be happening yeah that'd be happening the dudes like you know that's mostly young dudes though you know they just be like

doing too much but I mean it could be anybody truthfully you know yeah that's a thing that's definitely a thing do you feel like and I really want to know this because I feel like men will be like oh my God

like this is the best sex I ever had is there really like good vagina and like not good vagina and what is that difference? I think a man makes it what it's going to be. Okay, explain. Like if it's not cool, then it's on the guy. Because I feel like a guy going to make it cool. But do you think that there's good vagina? Like is there like, you know how a man's like, this is the vagina so good?

good, I'm feeling it. Is that true, or is men just saying that? I mean, the homie told me it was like weak. He was like, she was like, she was just like, laying there, wouldn't move it. That's crazy. She was just laying there, just didn't move, head back, didn't even have no reaction to nothing. I was like, damn. But like, does the vagina feel different? Like, that's what I'm trying to ask. Like, you're not answering like the question of like, is there different feels, you know? I'm thinking it's, it's, it's, it's, it's more than just the penis and the vagina.

It's the intimacy that make it better. No, I agree, but I'm asking you. Like, it's more than the feel, though, like, because like, if you just, out, if you just, your whole thought is just like to just go ahead and finish, you're just not really thinking about if it's, if it's cracking or not. But if you feel a certain way, it's always going to be better. If you feel a certain way about the person. But do you feel like there's such thing?

Because I've heard men be like, what I've heard a lot from men is like, oh, like really, really pretty women have like bad vagina sometimes and it smells. And I've heard that a lot. Like, it's blowing me. Like, it's like a smell to it. I've heard this. So many people. And Heather said she heard this too. Like more, a lot of people have said they heard this for men.

And I'm like, what is that? Like. Are, are, are you pretty? No, I'm just. Like, I mean, what do you think? I'm asking you. You got pretty friends? I personally don't know because when I feel like our mental truth, like, with me, it's always like, it's hitting, it's mom.

But it's like, is every, is every mad just saying that? Have you ever got up from sex and was like, what's that smell? Because if you have, it's usually coming from the girl. I don't think so, no. I won't be honest. never got to like after like no no no what is that let me go to the bathroom real quick this is blow me I'm saying not never come on the lie I mean not to where it's like crazy no you just like the friction was off no but also too what's crazy is you know that man's

pH men can throw off a woman's pH though now on us. No, no, no, that's a real thing. Like, a man, like, trust me, like, your body as a woman with a certain man will, like, be thrown off. I'm telling you, the woman will agree to this. Have your pH ever been thrown off? It has, yeah. Oh, so you have got it after

like, but it wasn't, like, to where it was like, no, no, it wasn't that, but it was just like you can tell. It's, like, different from your, like, sometimes if you have sex with a man a lot, you start to smell like him. Like, I can smell him on me. You know what I mean? She hadn't answered the question. She ain't ever... Because that's not, that's crazy, no.

So anyways, let's get back into this. Oh, man. Woof. No. They just got up and went to the bathroom. That's wild. It didn't come back. No.

Like, what are you talking about? I don't know. I'm just saying. I don't know. Okay. So anyways, moving forward because you can't take anything serious. What's worse for you? We're going to play a little game.

What's worse? Your partner cheats with your friend or your enemy? Um, my friend. Because now I got two enemies instead of one. But isn't that worse to have two enemies? Yeah, so it's worse to go with my friend. Oh, oh, oh, I see what you're saying. Because then when you have an enemy, it's just kind of like, it's already my enemy.

Yes, already. Yeah, but like, can you beat? I expect my enemy to try to do something. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. I get that. You know, but now my homie, my friend. Oh, that's weak.

Yeah, that is. Super weak. I get what you're saying. The friend hurts way more to me. Because I'll talk to him. I don't talk to my enemy. Yeah, for sure. What's worse?

Your partner cheats with a woman or a man? My partner cheating with a man. Because I'm the man. Okay, I get what you're saying. So it's more forgivable if it was a woman to you. Yeah. Okay, got you. But I mean,

Why? What if the girl was using the fake? You know, they'd be using the... The girl was using the fake on her? Yeah. It's still not the same to you. No, I still not the same. Okay. Okay, so now next thing.

You find out, huh? Okay. You find out that your partner and their ex still share a Netflix password. Does that bother you? No, I'm be like, you gotta change and get your own account. Okay.

She just forgot I'll pull up in a certain name I was like oh she forgot Your best friend shows you all DMs From your partner And they said a year before you started dating They were flirting in the DMs A year before you started dating

You and your best friend's like look Flirting me I mean you thought she was fine too That's cool Okay I'm tripping Okay well I think this was a great episode Besides you just say anything

Man you say a lot of stuff Woo Woo Even when you was that other girl, you would have never... I never what? Bye. Thank you so much. Like, seriously, seriously, you run me low.

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