Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Brandon Jennings & Jeff Teague on WILD rookie season with Bucks, trashing Ricky Rubio

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 45 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by former member of the Milwaukee Bucks, Detroit Pistons, and New York Knicks Brandon Jennings to discuss all things high school, AAU, overseas, and NBA basketball. Jennings tells stories about guarding Chauncey Billups, going back and forth with Eric Gordon, signing to play overseas out of high school, trashing Ricky Rubio, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction01:30 - Playing against Chauncey Billups03:00 - Best Hoop Mixtapes05:23 - Going to Oak Hill10:00 - Best AAU memory13:00 - ABCD camp story16:10 - BEST High School basketball player in Cali19:30 - Brandon Jennings got Jeff Teague paid23:10 - Brandon Jennings going overseas25:40 - Signing with Under Armour28:50 - Playing in today's NBA29:55 - Scoring 55 in a game35:40 - Draft workouts #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We're talking sports, politics, pop culture, entertainment, and anything that catches my attention. Listen to the I Am Rappaport Stereo Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host. My name is DJ.

Well, special guests in the building to my left. We're going to introduce my man's last, but to my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Here, out the pearlies. How you what? What's happening, Ashley? Let's get to it, goddammit. I see you upgraded the forces, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying, BJ?

You ever seen the Cali, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? B.J., you ever seen the Cali, you know what I'm saying? They rocking the black forces with the white laces out there. Nah, I mean, black forces mean that you about serious business. Damn, damn.

Somebody about to get got. You a high fashion nigga and it match your hoodie. We'll tap in after the pod, bro, I got you. Nah, I'll fuck with them though. I mean, Yeezy just, Kanye just had to-

Shout out to the pods. The all black zone too. So, you know. They know, so shout out to Yeezy. There's a wave. I mean, Yeezy just, Kanye just had to shout out to the pods. The all-black zone, too. So, you know. They know, so shout out to Yeezy. There's a wave. They back. Yeah, they back.

The all-black zone back. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I mean, if we got down. Oh, shit. My dog to my right, young Nacho, young T. You know what, man?

I ain't got the black forces on, but I got the beat-em-ups. These my, what's these called? Black cat force. Yeah, you might not rob a nigga, but you might stab a nigga in them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know.

I get active in these, but man, it's good, man. We got legendary. We got a legend. A real legend. Class of 08. Hoop legend. A lot of y'all getting paid because of this man right here. B. Jennings, appreciate you pulling up the 520, my dog.

Thank you, man. For the show, bro. All y'all, thank you. For the show, man. Like, we got to start off the episode the right way. We got to ask you a tough question 520, my dog. Thank you, man. It's a show, bro. All y'all, thank you. It's a show, man. Like, we got to start off the episode the right way. We got to ask you a tough question, you know what I'm saying? Okay.

You came in the league getting super active, you know what I'm saying? We know what you did. Who was the first person that you guarded in the league who was just like, oh, this shit crazy? I know you was a pro already, but when you got to the league, who was that first match show? You was just like, oh, shit, I got to deal with this shit every night? I would have to say Chauncey Billups. I think it was like my third game in. And I gave him 32 and nine.

Oh, tough. But at the same time, I just knew I was like, okay, like this is what the league's about. Like posting me up, like, you know what I'm saying? I had to get stronger and everything. But Chauncey Billups was like my wake-up call to like, all right, like this is what it's going to be like. Nah, fuck that. How that like my wake-up call to like, all right, like, all right, like this is what it's going to be like.

Nah, fuck that. How that's a wake-up call you had 32 and 9? Shit, I would be like this shit easy as fuck. Shit,

32 and 9, God damn. I mean, because like, I mean, like I'm a rookie, so I'm a fan. So it's like,

I'm going against Chauncey Billups, MVP, like the finals and, you know, NBA champion and be able to be like with him and Kenyon Martin and Melo and JR out there and be 32 and 9.

It's like, oh, shit. Like, you know, like it was it was a hype moment, but it also was like a moment of like, OK, like, all right, like this was going to be about like. So who made you switch your bag up, though, when you went up against him? Who made me switch my bag up? Yeah, like who was that crazy back and forth duo? I know Chauncey made you think about the game, but who was that when you first went up against them? It was like, all right, I'm at this nigga here.

We going crazy at each other. In the league? Yeah. Darren Williams. D. Will. D. Will. Did you get you with that crossover? D. Will, yeah, in Utah.

The double snatch? Yeah, the double snatch. And then, like, once I matched up with D, like, I had a bunch of great games against D. Will. Like, you know what I'm saying? So I just felt like, and he was one of the top guards. So, you know, it was him and CP3, so those two, and being able to match up with D.

Will, it was like, I was like, alright, like, I'm nice. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I can compete because, like, he was one of the top guards. Oh, okay. Dog, you a mixtape legend, got one of the coldest basketball mixtapes of all time. Austin Rivers was talking about it recently, about the mixtape situation. Obviously, we know where you stand

on that. Who would you say besotted you with? Some of them people are like, damn, he got a crazy mixtape. A kill car. Crime stopper. A kill car. The fact that when he played, he stopped crime in Baltimore says a lot about him. Because they do the wire out there. Like, you know, so I don't think a lot of people give a kill card his love.

But I've seen that young and the type of hype and the type of people that come in Baltimore and, like, stop everything they're doing just to see him. That's different. That's different. Like, that's just different to me. I remember him playing against Moog. Yeah, that was one of my favorite AU games I watched. Yeah, him and Moog went at it. That was dope. I told him Moog was kind of low- that was one of my favorite AU games I watched. Yeah, Mook went at it.

That was dope. I told him Mook was kind of low-key scared to guard him a little bit. He started doing all that shit. I seen Mook stand up like, man, go on with that shit. Nah,

but you know who had another crazy mixtape dude named Trey Jefferson? Oh, yeah. Trey Jefferson, yeah. Bro, his mixtape is crazy. I ain't gonna lie. He got a fire mixtape.

Trey Jefferson, John Wall. John Wall. Boy, you know, John Wall. At that fake school. At that a fire mixed up. Trey Jefferson. John Wall. John Wall. Bull. You know, John Wall. At that fake school. At that fake school. The real NIL.

That shit crazy. The real NIL. The first NIL. Yeah, John Wall. I mean, yeah, man. I mean, you know, that was just the beginning of it. You know, even D. Rose. You know, you look at D. Rose shit.

Like, it's crazy. Tariq Evans. Facts. You know, that's one of my GOATs in 08 class. You know, if people don't say I'm the best player in the 08 class, I got to go with Tariq Evans any day. Damn. Any day.

Like, Tariq Evans was like. Did y'all have any AAU battles? Did we play against each other at AAU? No, we played against each other in high school against Oak Hill. And he, man, he crossed Nolan Smith so bad. And that was my guy. Shout out to Nolan. But God damn, he hit Nolan with something crazy.

But no, man, he was just like that, you know, that big guard. Like he was one of the first big guards that we've seen. Like, you know how guards now are like 6'4", 6'5". Like he was that first big guard that you've seen. And that's why he went so high in the draft too. Because everybody was under six foot. And he was like 6'3", 6'4". The prototype. Yeah. He was that first big guard that you've seen, and that's why he went so high in the draft, too, because everybody was under six foot, and he was like 6'3", 6'4". The prototype. Yeah.

Of what today is. Absolutely. So, man, we got to take it back, man. High school days, I mean, it started you off being a legend. You go from Cali to the East Coast. Obviously, we don't say how you got there, but how was that making that decision to go to Oak Hill? Leaving comfort zone, young kid, growing into a man,

taking basketball as like your real job now. How was that decision, and how was that making that decision to go to Oak Hill? Leaving comfort zone, young kid, growing into a man, taking basketball as like your real job now. How was that decision? And like, how was that going out there? Because when we talked to everybody, like we talked to Josh Smith going out there, it was like, damn, Oak Hill sound like y'all was doing a bid out there. I mean, to me, I just wanted more in life. Like my situation at home wasn't great. I grew up in a single parent mother home.

You know, my dad passed when I was eight. So at 11, I had to become the man of the house. Like, you know, basketball became a job, and it was the, you know, it was paying rent and things like that. So, you know, Oak Hill was just a situation where I wanted to grow and, you know, do things for myself. Like, you know, Oak Hill, I had to wash my own clothes. I had to go to school, wake up, and, you know, clean my room and just be a man. Like, you know what I'm saying? Grow up. So it was definitely one of the best experiences I've had in my life.

And, you know, that was one of the reasons why I don't mind taking challenges and taking risks in life because of that move to Oak Hill. I think we were just talking about it before on the pod, but, you know, it was between me and Eddie Rios. If y'all know who Eddie Rios is lefty from Miami and you know we were supposed to Steve Smith had to choose

between me and him and we're both lefties but of course I got the nod because you know my man Marcus Williams and his dad Kelly Williams

they you know they looked out for me so and of course he made the best decision for sure definitely all respects to Eddie but we know what it is.

Nah, for sure. It wasn't close. I busted Eddie ass too. But he's cool. Facts. I played against Eddie Rios when he went to Miami. And yeah,

they made a good decision. But no, no disrespect though. You did what you had to do. But I was wondering, like, I knew you for, man,

I was a fan of your game since you was in high school. You were younger than me, but I used to watch your game. So you played for SoCal out of California. Yeah. You had a squad. I remember the first time I seen y'all play was you, Chase Budinger, I think, Taylor King, and Taj Gibson. And y'all went up against Indie Heat, who had Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Daquan Cook, Aaron Poe, Eric Gorey. And y'all went up against Indie Heat who had Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Daquan Cook,

Aaron Poe, Eric Gorey, and y'all had a duel. And that was the first time I seen like somebody really go at Mike. Like you wasn't, like you wasn't like shit. And they like,

yeah, he younger too. He younger than them. Yeah. I was like 10th grade. Yeah, I'm like, damn, who is this little motherfucker? And I was like, I ain't no hater,

but I'm like, you know, people like, nah, he gonna be the true. They can't fuck with Mike. And I'm like, damn, who is this little motherfucker? And I was like, I ain't no hater, but I'm like, you know, people like, nah, he going to be the true. Like, he can't fuck with Mike. And I'm like, damn, he fucking with Mike. Damn, he fucking with Mike. That's the best guard in the country. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that like, man, like competing two grades up, I guess you would say?

I mean, I always loved the challenge, man. So, you know, like I said before, like, before like you know my situations in life so basketball was like everything that's all I knew so you know I had to work 10 times harder you know I'm only 6'1 and you know us as little guards we gotta you know put in the extra extra time so just being able to you know be at that age and be in advance

and you know be out there with Greg Oden, Eric Gordon Greg Oden, Eric Gordon, Greg Oden, Eric Gordon, you know, Dequan Cook, Mike Conley. Like, taking on those challenges early just helped my game. So when I played against my class, I was looking at them. It was like they was like light. Like, you light.

Because I never ducked a smoke. Since ABCD camp, since, you know, you in smoke since ABCD camp since you know you've been in ABCD camp the big time everything like so if you see me that means you know

I wasn't ducking smoke nah you wasn't ducking no smoke that's why when y'all was talking about Gil's arenas like I mean I don't know

I didn't get to see them in high school I knew Rashad McKenzie got buckets in high school I seen him at McDonald's and all that shit but I'm like bro I seen this nigga when he was in 10th grade. Trying to hold my own.

He was out there hooping, bro. Playing against killers. Playing against better niggas, too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, played against the top. Like, that's, you know, I'll be on it. You know, I'll be keeping it humble. Nah, I don't know why.

I don't know why this nigga be humble. Because you had a, didn't you play against O.J. Mayo, too? O.J. all the time. My nigga, Kenan Ellis, was on that squad. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. I'm doing that shit. Didn't you play against O.J. Mayo too? O.J. all the time. My nigga Kenan Ellis was on that squad. You been playing niggas like in high school and on the AAU.

That's why I'm saying niggas that came all the way from Ohio out there to Dominguez to fuck with y'all. So you've been doing it for a long time, bro. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. O.J., he killed us. Yeah, I know. O.J. and Bill Walker was... I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.

The nigga was different. But it's that. I didn't know that. But it's just like, you know, that's why I love the game of basketball. Like, I love, like, you know, the challenge. Like, it's like, I don't really fuck with people in basketball that never took on the challenge. Like, you know, if you're not in those settings, you don't like being in that hostile environment, then it's like, it's not for you.

Like, because this is what it's about. Like, it's everything is hostile. It's competition. So it's like, if you duck't like being in that hostile environment, then it's like, it's not for you. Like, because this is what it's about. Like, it's everything is hostile. It's competition. So it's like, if you duck and smoke, it's like, you know, like, watch out. Yeah, move around. I got a question, though. What's your best AAU matchup, you think?

My best AAU matchup? Yep. I think my best AAU game, and it has nothing to do with, like, scoring. It has to do with locking up Eric Gordon in the second half of the championship game in the big time. Eric Gordon had 40 points on us with Mean Street. Him and Derrick Rose. Eric Gordon was coming down, killing.

I'm talking about he was killing us, right? Half time, I said, I got him. I got him. Like, I got him. Y'all do what y'all do. I got him. And I held him to like maybe 10 16 points i mean you know he's still at 40 but it was just like like that moment of just like you know being

a defender and having to you know like take a um you know take a step down and just like you know like like defend somebody so you know that was like one of my big biggest like aau moments to me i was at that game uh they beat us in the final four. Me and Streets did. Eric Gordon had a dunk that was on the internet. He dunked one of my teammates. Shout out to Tommy. Yeah, he dunked on Tommy so bad.

Everybody ran on the court. His brother got ejected and shit. Everybody started bullying us and shit. Shout out to T-Free, man. He got punched on. He got punched on. I got crossed at half court, my fault. But you got punched on.

You made that happen. He crossed me at half and punched on that nigga. I was like, God damn, my fault. But you got punched. You made that happen. He crossed me at half and punched on that nigga. I was like, God damn, my fault, Tommy. But they started booing us and then I watched y'all game

and Eric is going crazy. Crazy. I'm like, yo, this nigga is the best player. He from here, so I'm like, damn,

Eric really does good. Yeah. Who's the best player y'all ever seen out of Indiana? Eric. Eric. In high school. Eric was got in high school.

When he did the Jordan kids, bro, ESPN was legendary, bro. It was crazy, bro. But then to see y'all keep going at it, I'm like, Eric was got in high school when he did the Jordan kids bro ESPN was legendary bro it was crazy bro but then to see y'all keep going at it I'm like Eric was killing so much

and then the second half like you said you started competing against him I'm watching the game differently cause I'm a fan of the game I'm like damn Eric can't really get by him

like damn Eric really ain't killing no more like damn what the fuck this little nigga killing like that's that same nigga from last year I'm noticing I'm like this damn, what the fuck is this little nigga killing? Like, that's that same nigga from last year?

I'm like, this little motherfucker going to be cold. Because I'm older than him. So I'm acting like, yo, he's a little. Next thing you know, it's him, bro. Yeah, I ain't going to lie. That little fro, little shirt was big as hell. Jerky was hanging off and shit. The pro club teaser.

The big ass white teaser you used to wear. Oh, God, bro. I was like, this little thing gonna be nice. I had the hardball uniforms. I was thugging. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast,

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And come on and join our friends in the Wake and Jake family. You will not regret it. So, new episodes Monday and Wednesday. You can watch along on the Wake and Jake YouTube channel or listen to Wake and Jake on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Man, what? Yeah, no, we was, I mean, Sonny had it lit for us, though.

Sonny Bacurl. Shout out to Sonny Bacurl, man. The legend. You know, when he got to Reebok, you know, we was, you know, we had to, we was wearing ice creams, S.Dot Carters, Iversons. I mean, I don't know what shoes y'all have. No, we didn't get that. You was, when he got to Reebok, you know, we was, you know, we had to, we was wearing ice creams, S.Dock Carter's, Iverson's. I mean, I don't know what shoes y'all have. Nah, we didn't get that. Nah, dude, you was, you was.

You was, you got them. I ain't get none of that shit. Yeah, I don't know. We were popping this shit. You was the first NIL to get that. I ain't get none of that shit. Let me tell you about these niggas at ABCD camp, man. Ooh, wait.

It's him and Isaiah Thomas. Like, I'm, nobody knows me. I get invited by this camp by Coach Conley got me in. Nigga, I'm in the back of the line waiting for my jersey and shoes. Him and IT come out the back. Two boxes of shoes, sweat shirts, all type of shit. I'm like, damn, everybody get that shit? I get up to the line.

Them motherfuckers hand me my shoes. They ain't even in a box. They hand me my two like this. Like, here you go, bro. What the fuck? That's when I knew them niggas was different, bro. I'm like, where was your jersey number? Like 257

or some shit like that. I'm some real shit. I ain't gonna lie. I was hurt, bro. We was talking about it earlier, nigga. The real hoopers played the second and the fourth. I played the first and the third. But I'm killing. I'm thinking I'm fucking niggas up to a nigga

Corey Fisher. He played the first quarter and the fourth quarter. I had a good game against him in the first, well, a good quarter against him. And then a nigga told me in the middle of the game, like, nigga, you playing in the third. I'm like, what the fuck you talking about? I get to look and I'm like, all the good niggas on the bench. I was like, all the good niggas. All the good niggas on the bench.

I was like, damn. I thought he was a real starter. I thought I was the one. Nigga, they started me and everything. Your poor official was cold, though, huh? He was cold. He had all New York behind him, huh? Man, everybody, nigga.

Anytime he touched the ball, bro, they started yelling. The best matchup at that time, you had a good matchup. But a fire matchup was him and Johnny Flint the crowd was just standing up the whole game and I'll never forget Paul Harris was like

you better than him Johnny and I was looking back I was like who the fuck is this strong ass he's not big as him who the fuck you better than him

I'll never forget that bro the NBCD camp was a moment Paul Harris was crazy and then the one with Lance Stevenson and OJ remember Lance was in the 8th grade Lance was in the 8th grade going against The NBCD came as a moment. That matchup was crazy. And then the one with Lance Stevenson and OJ.

Remember, Lance was in the eighth grade. Lance was in the eighth grade going against an OJ male that was a junior. Like, I always tell people, man, Lance Stevenson's one of them ones that's like, to me, that's just like, bro. He was different. Like, bro, he was different. Eighth grade ready. He was on the cover of Slam, bro. Like, he was the prodigal kid.

Like, he was up next. Ready. Like, I know Sebastian Telfair is in, bro. He was the prodigal kid. He was up next. Ready. I know Sebastian Telfair is in, but he kept that legacy going. That's a real fact. So shout out to Lance Stevenson. Speaking of legacy, who the best? Look at him. Don't know how to pot.

That's crazy. That's crazy. And that ringtone is nasty, by the way. Bro, you might as well have T-Pain on this shit. I was supposed to be cooking. You got a callback tone, too? Keep it going. This is a natural pot, so this is what we're doing to be cooking. You got a callback to all two? Keep it going. This is a natural pod,

so this is what we do. A natural pod. A natural pod. That's crazy. Like I like my peachy. There you go. Not me. Oh,

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yo. Yo. Back to back to my home, bro. Nah, but speaking of legacy, we talk about, like, California. Where you put yourself as, like, California guards? You know, you got BD. You got Gil.

Y'all got so many. James Harden. Yeah. Where you put yourself? Like, we could just say high school. Well, okay. We're just talking high school then. If we're talking everything, then I have to go with, you know,

if we're talking everything NBA, I to go with you know if we're talking everything NBA I'm going to go with James and Russ overall with the guards and then I mean of course Gil and BD but we're talking just

high school out of California I mean I'm number one like there's there's no guard in California in basketball that ever played

high school basketball that's better than me that's hard just off the fact that first of all I left Dominguez like who the fuck California basketball, they ever played high school basketball, that's better than me. That's hard. Just off the fact that, first of all, I left Dominguez. Like,

who the fuck leaves Dominguez when it's a powerhouse school to go to Oak Hill? So I made a transition that was, first of all, bold, ignorant, you know,

like, cocky type. And I go to Oak Hill my first year and I win a national championship. Fire. So, you know,

40-1. And then my senior year, I become Naism a national championship. Fire. So, you know, 40-1. And then my senior year, I become Naismith Player of the Year. So I actually feel like I took the bullet for us West Coast. I mean, L.A. Hoopers. You know, going to the East Coast and having to battle all these guards and, you know, take on every challenge every night. Because, you know, Oak Hill, every game counts. Like, you lose one game, you don't win.

You ain't no state, no national, nothing. You just going there. So I just think my route, my route in general in high school was just better than anybody's. Nah, you got the best route for sure. I ain't already. I thought about it. I'm like, hell nah, your route is crazy, bro.

Yeah. I would say y'all the best. I mean, I don't know every guard in California. That's going to be a great debate for the pod when people get in YouTube comments or whatever. But for me, I was going to say he was the best out of high school. Overall, like I agree with you, James and Russ. They NBA careers are amazing.

But California got so many hoopers. I mean, and then, you know, even out of high school, like going straight, like, like just the beginning of my career in NBA. I was better than a lot of No, you know I'm saying like from my shirt from from Europe until like, you know My thing is I didn't have to wait you did like, you know, and that's that's just my biggest thing Like I was always a star and I hated you Nigga everything I felt that you know, it's crazy. I felt that when we played I'm like Jeff I don't think Jeff Fucked with me No look

I don't think Jeff liked me Like what's this nigga Everything I wanted to do This nigga was doing This nigga started as a rookie This nigga's killing I'm like what the fuck Like I just went to

Wait for it I was killing This nigga get to play I'm gonna sit behind Mike Bibby like Then I never forget That nigga did the Behind the back wrap around

Hit the layup Looked at me Said you might want to get in the game, nigga. Oh, shit. This old nigga can't guard me. He wasn't saying it as like, nigga, you can't fuck with me. He was saying it like, nigga, get him out the game. It's young nigga's time. But I was hurt. I'm on the bench like, and Josh Smith being the asshole he is, he was like, damn.

And Josh being Josh, I know Josh Smith. I know Josh Smith. Josh being, I know you want to play. Like, fuck you, nigga. And you want to play, huh? Yeah, you want to play, bro.

For sure. Josh Smith definitely like that. Josh Smith. You know how it is. Josh Smith like, oh yeah, you think you, huh? Uh-huh, yeah. You definitely want to play tonight, huh?

I was like, damn, but nah, you was cold. And then one night I was like, I was hating because you think you, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You definitely want to play tonight, huh? I was like, damn, but nah, you was cold. And then one night I was like, I was hating because you was playing, but I always respected you. Like, nah, this nigga is good. And I knew when it was time to play, you like, this nigga reliable to get 50. So let me try to go at him first

because I know this nigga about to get his shit off, nigga. Like, he gonna go at you. So let me try to like, at least try to give him some foul trouble or something because he getting his 50 Or 25, 30 And I was like damn And I still thank you

To this day That you wanted To leave Milwaukee Cause he the reason I got some money Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm about to say You can't do no wrong

In my life I'm about to say You can't do no wrong In my life Because they Talk about it They offered me And then I was like

And I had to go Cause they wanted me To go meet Bud And I'm like I'm not had to go because they wanted me to go meet Bud. And I'm like, I'm not finna go to Atlanta and meet him. Like, what the fuck? Like, you know,

just young me. You know, young us. Like, you know, we ain't. And then they offered me and then that's when I went to Detroit. Yeah. That's what I got.

Because Atlanta wanted me and I was like, I ain't going to Atlanta. I just wasn't fucking with it. Yeah, I was like, I appreciate this nigga for the rest of my life. He was like, I'm not signing back.

I was like, he's not signing back. I'm sitting at the crib because Atlanta offered me, like, four-year 24. And they just gave Kyle Korver, like, four-year 28. I'm like, are y'all fucking kidding me? I'm like, y'all playing. The market was low. The market was bad. Y'all playing for real, bro.

And then he was like, I don't know what they offered you but you turned it down I'm like damn like I thought you was gonna get like everybody was like I'm like

B. Jenny's getting that like Stefan Demar all them y'all gonna get the same and you left and I'm like damn when they called me

I said I love this nigga I love this nigga for the rest of my life I need this bag nah but what's crazy is you know like going back to that situation it's's like, you know,

that's the reason why I left my agent, Bill Duffy, at the time. Because he didn't tell me that they had, Milwaukee had offered me. Yeah. Milwaukee had, so the beginning of that year, right, that year, Milwaukee had offered me 40 for 4. Right? And my agent didn't tell me.

Oh, that's fucked up. So what happened was my agent didn't tell me, Oh, that's fucked up. So what happened was my agent didn't tell me, and then the GM at the time, he told John Hammond. He told my Under Armour rep, he was like, man, can you believe this kid didn't take 40 for 4? I'm like, and I had no idea that they had offered me. So they didn't come back. My agent was like, yeah, you know, he was like, yeah, I don't think 40 for 4 is it.

Like, you know, we should go for the max, max, max. So my mom and him was pushing the max. And, you know, it kind of fucked up my relationship with my mom, too, because it was like, well, y'all doing shit behind my back and I don't even know. So I didn't sign going into, I'm playing the game and it was too late to sign. So I had to play that whole year in Milwaukee without being, you know, I wanted to resign.

So that's why the situation looked so bad when I left because it's like, well, I wanted to sign but it was too late for me to sign because I didn't know they offered me. So I got fucked over. Nah, damn. I didn't know that. So yeah, that was my big... I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, but

you know, that's just, yeah, that was just like the cold mean, yeah, but, you know, that's just, yeah, that was just like the cold of the game. Like, you know, and I was speaking to the rising stars the other day, kids, about like life and, you know, situations and the people that surround you. You know, you got to, you know, you got to, you know, watch who's around you. You know, no matter if it's your mom, it's your dad, it's your agent,

anybody, like you got to make sure they're really there for you and care for you. That's a fact. And, you's your dad, it's your agent, anybody. You got to make sure they're really there for you and care for you. And you know, my younger career, I didn't really have good people around me. And I'm not saying my agent wasn't good or people, it's just things that they didn't tell me. Like, I like to be, be honest with me.

Like, I'm going to take it how it is, but when you don't tell me, then, you know, then I got to act out. You know what I'm saying? Then I got to act out. It was no reason for you to leave Milwaukee because you was like. Yeah. But they offered me. But they offered me.

That's why I was confused. I was like, damn. I was like, fuck it. Shit. Offer sheet. I saw that motherfucker so fast. He said, what? That motherfucker, curse of great.

But nah. But when you did that, you went to Detroit. And we're going to get back to you being in Milwaukee and how you was killing. Because I know you went to Detroit and we gonna get back to you being in Milwaukee and how you was killing cause I know you went to Detroit after that but you was killing Detroit too

but I want us to go back to Milwaukee my friend I wanna go even further back like you not even going to college like what made you take that route

like fuck it you was supposed to go to Arizona you like nah well I couldn't pass the SAT it's a lot of our downfall ain't that crazy they don't gotta do that shit no more

yeah that's crazy it's probably cause of you probably it's just all all this shit come from you bro Brandon Jr. is damn near a soldier boy I'm the first

I'm the first who worked to do this yeah but no like I mean it wasn't that I couldn't pass it they flagged my my score twice

so I had took it in the summertime, right? So I'm out of school. I had to take it again. And I took it and then they flagged it, right? So I'm in the summer and I'm just like trying to figure out my life. Like, you know, I'm 18, number one player in the country. And I don't have nowhere to go.

Damn. Like, I have nowhere. I can't go to summer school in Arizona. Luke Olsen just retired. Gerald Bayless said that he's leaving. So I don't know what the hell I'm finna do. Right. So, you know, I'm just sitting, I'm sitting in the car in traffic with my mom.

Broke. We broke. Like poor, trying to figure it out, you know. And Sonny Baccaro goes on the phone and he's like, I don't understand why kids just don't sit out for a year, train, or go overseas. So I'm just like, well, damn, like, you know, shit, go overseas. Like, you know, I don't know if I can play. You know, I start going to YouTube looking at videos. Like, damn, I'm, like, fighting and shit.

Like, I don't know. I don't know. I'm like, I don't know about all that. Like, you niggas might want to take off. Like, you know. So I asked my coach, Steve Smith, I was like, yo, do you think I can play? He was like, hell yeah, you can play over there. Like, this is going to be good for you. Easy. So he was, he was one of the persons that gave me the confidence. And then I called Sonny. Um, and you know, for, for youngins too, going out there, uh, you know, that want something in life, sometimes you have to pick up the phone and call, uh, people when you want something in life. So, you know, I called Sonny. Um, you know, he was like, hell yeah, let's do this. You know, did my background check and everything. And then we went to Vegas in two weeks and I got signed. Um, so, so this was like, this was like all in a two week span. Like I'm, um, uh, I'm in the house stressing out, like in my room trying to

figure it out. And, you know, I'm just like, bro, I'm about to be a failure. Like I'm about to be one of them, um, you know, uh, Lenny Cooks or whatever it is like, you know, I'm just like, bro, I'm about to be a failure. Like, I'm about to be one of them, you know, Lenny Cooks or whatever it is. Like, you know, just those guys. And Sonny called, made the phone call. Then next thing you know, I signed a contract in Rome for a team in Rome. And then I signed a contract with Under Armour.

Well, like, what's that like? Hell of a month. Like, all in the span of three weeks. That's crazy. What is like being that guy like we see steph curry got on dormer now he's the big but you popped that shit on pioneer yeah yeah what was that like because i remember i used to look at your shoes i'm like man it's no way he likes them shits yeah um i mean it was different you know i just felt like my route has always been different

um always felt like um everything has been a challenge or a risk so it was another risk another challenge that was taken um you know me tearing my achilles of course in the shoes and things like that um you know i just saw west worldwide west the other day um you know um he gave me some advice a long time ago when i had tore my achilles he was like you know unarmored they owe you like you know that you should be signing a lifetime deal with them. Um, just because of what you started and what you built. Um, and now that I'm working back with them, it's just like, you know, everything's been full circle for me. So it was like, now I'm looking at it like, shit, I'm, I'm in the, I'm in the moment where I could get a lifetime deal with Under Armour. They do owe, like, you know, so it's been

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We're breaking it down with the passion that'll make you next time. You will not regret it. So new episodes Monday and Wednesday. You can watch along on the Wake and Jake YouTube channel or listen to Wake and Jake on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's crazy is you signed with Under Armour. I went with Nike. I'm like, damn, this ain't getting all this money, right? And then I seen Kimba. Kimba come with Under Armour.

You know what I did? Hey, agent, Kimba. Kimba come with Under Armour. Yeah. You know what I did? Hey, agent, you think you can get me with Under Armour? I put them shoes on. I said, these niggas got some good-ass ankles. Because these ain't going to work for T. Like, these ain't going to work for me. These niggas are special.

I knew you and Kimba was different. Boy, the way y'all was cutting this shit out, it wouldn't work for me. I said, I need some Adidas. I need something a little sturdy. But, boy. The way y'all was cutting this shit out, it wouldn't work for me. I said, I need some Adidas. I need something a little sturdy. But I used to like how y'all came with y'all shoes. Man, y'all had every colorway. They used to treat y'all good.

So it's dope to hear Shout out to Chris Stone, man. Chris Stone made a lot of things happen during that time. I mean, he was with Curry Brand now, but Chris Stone was really

the force of everything. He was like, whatever y'all want. You know what I'm saying? It was like, whatever we wanted. So we were basically just creating things. Like during the lock'all want like yeah you know what i'm saying like it was like whatever we wanted so we were we were basically just creating things like during the lockout i i had uh you know chris stone made sure that i had a internship job that's how i got

into fashion because i was in there i was in there uh creating my own shoes and and different things so i was able to see how a business was supposed to be run and everything like making merch and everything so they do it right like that 11 that 2011 lockout was was special be run and everything, like making merch and everything. Damn, they do it right. Like that 2011 lockout was special. Nice. And gave us some of the best basketball of all time.

The lockout program runs with some of the best basketball of all time. Hey, yours resurfaced the other day. I had a little, oh yeah, I did a little moment

in the lockout. You going to John Wall? Yeah, we had a little moment. Mine just resurfaced too with Josh Shelby. Oh, y'all had a moment. Another slept over. Shout out to Josh Shelby, man. Philae? The Philae guy?

Philae? Yeah, Philae. Yeah, shout out to Josh Shelby, bro. Yeah, we ain't fuck each other when I first saw him. Because it was like, you know, like that Hooper moment, you know, when you look at somebody like, look up and down, like, get the fuck out of here. It was like that, but no, shout out to B-More. I always wanted, like you said, you're a pioneer in so many things in basketball,

especially for both the other ways y'all play. in basketball, especially for both of y'all, the way that y'all play. If y'all could play in y'all prom, like in today's NBA, especially the way that you can market yourself, especially the way,

like the fashion, the way you just, how you work, period, it would be so crazy. Like, if you would be able to take over, like, Under Armour handle and then play in the game,

like, you feel like you could just grow your brand even more now the way that they encourage players to have their own brands now? Because they kind of discouraged it back then on the low. Yeah, I mean, I feel like, to me, your brand even more now the way that they encourage players to have their own brands now because they kind of discouraged it back then on the low yeah i mean

i feel like to me i was ahead of my time like i came in to the league fucking gumby fucking high top fade um um louis backpack like oh for sure backpack but today i feel like if we played today they would hate us because we wouldn't need the NBA. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like we needed the NBA for marketing. Now you can market yourself. Like, you know what I'm saying? We would be on a part, like you would have your podcast, right? You would have other things in life to where you wouldn't need, like you could just market

yourself and the money, of course. I mean, think about it. I mean, now they're getting, like, I mean, so we would be getting 80 million just sitting here. Like, imagine what we would be doing. So today I think they would hate us because we wouldn't, because we would be like, oh, like, because we wouldn't need them. Like, you know, like some of the stuff that we needed back then,

we wouldn't need the NBA. We could just do ourselves. That's real. Can we speak on that 55-point game, though? Like, do you remember that day from start to finish in Milwaukee? The thing about 55, people be forgetting, I didn't score in the first quarter. So, you did the shit in three quarters? Yeah.

Shit. So, I didn't score in the first quarter at all. I went 0 for 5 and Scouts pulled me out. He was like, you ain't ready to play. He's like, go sit. You ain't ready to play. Like, one of the Scouts was on me every fucking day, bro. Shout out to Scouts because, you know, he helped me, you know,

especially not having a father figure in my life. Like, you know, your first coach and your first, you know, everything in the league, like you want to go well. So like he was that guy that was there for me that I needed to hear humble me and also let me know, like, you're not as hot as you think you are. Like, you know, that type of humbleness that I needed. But, man, yeah, he took me out the game. Like, you ain't ready to play.

Come back in there. He was like, I hope you're ready to play now. Like, you know, just always on me. But the 55 game, I just remember going to Denny's the next morning. Damn, you went to Denny's after scoring 55? Yeah, I mean, the Under Armour budget wasn't like that. The Under Armour budget wasn't like that. This nigga acting like the motherfuckers from the 70s.

Went to Denny's the next day and I was reading the newspaper with myself in it. It was cool, though. I mean, but I was still young. So, you know, I wasn't on no fancy. I was 19, man. So, you know, I was just like, man, let's go to Denny's. IHOP or something. Man, I remember you scoring that 55 and the next day I was at home and I seen you do ESPN.

Like, you had to do ESPN maybe a day or two later or a day, maybe the next day. And I just remember watching that. I was like, this motherfucker really scoring 55 points? Like, I was sitting there thinking, like, this nigga gone.

Like, he the one. Like, it was amazing. I'm like, yo. They blew that shit up, bro. And the way you went at another rookie, which was Steph, and y'all was having a moment. But when you started, I'm like, yo. They blew that shit up, bro. And the way you went at another rookie, which was Steph, y'all was having a moment, but when you started,

I'm like, damn. Ain't it kind of crazy to see, like, like, you playing against Steph at that time and then see where he is now? Mm-hmm. Like, I tell everybody,

like, that shit kind of unreal because I didn't see that. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, to be honest, you know, it's all about, you know, I'm going to tell, you know,

this is for all the youngins. You know, it's all about the people you'm going to tell you know this is for all the youngins you know it's all about the people you have around you you know Steph has you know he has his wife he has good people

you know he has you know he has a foundation I didn't have a foundation you know I was trying to figure out my foundation

when I was in the league and it hurt me because instead of focusing on basketball I was focusing on foundation and trying to make everybody else around me happy

when I should have been telling everybody no. I can relate to that. So, you know, that's why, you know, I feel like in basketball, you know, it's not just, you know, everybody works hard. Everybody got the talent, but it's all about the people you have around you too. And at the beginning of my career,

the people that I had around me, that was, you know, I was more, if I paid attention and knew what was around me, I probably would have had a better career. Like, you know, I was more, if I paid attention and knew what was around me, I probably would have had a better career. Like, you know, things would have happened for me better. Nah, you, I feel like people don't give you enough credit because to me, you were like one of the first guards I seen that was scoring. Like, you always been a really good passer.

I didn't watch your game since you was high school. So I know you always was like, you was a passer first. Yeah. Like, you used to throw hella dimes. But like, when I seen you become like a scorer, like, you was scoring and shit.

And like, Nick Van Exel always tell me like, it's about making your other teammates better. I'm like, but this little motherfucker in Milwaukee not doing it. He's killing it.

Like, why you keep talking to me about passing the fucking joke? But he's fucking killing it. But Nick Van was a scorer. That's what I was saying. I used to be like, you ain't watching him.

I'm like, he killing it. Luke Rittenhour passing to him. Y'all not seeing this shit? And he was like, man, it ain't going to,

he get to do that for his team. And I used to be like, man, I feel like you in this league right now would be phenomenal.

Like, you would be a, you already got the fashion, the brand, like you said, you would be a, you already got the fashion, the brand, like you said, the gun, VR. You already got the brand and shit. But, like, you as a player in this league, bro, you would have been. You little mellow, you Anthony Edwards. Yeah, you would have been.

The personality, bringing on the court, bro, for sure. You would have probably averaged 28, 27. Yeah. But you got to big yourself up, too, though, bro. Like, your situation in Atlanta was perfect for you. Like, you know, you like, like, you be like, I mean, so you became an all-star. Yeah, but I wanted to shoot that bitch. Yeah.

When I came out of high school, I mean, college, I was a scorer. Like I averaged them for 20 points in college. So I'm like, I want to shoot. When I got to Atlanta, them niggas said, go to the corner. Nigga give Joe, Jamal, rightfully so, they're great scorers. They phenomenal. But that is not what I wanted to do. I wasga, give Joe Jamal, rightfully so, they're great scorers. They phenomenal. But that is not what I wanted to do. Yeah, he was like,

I don't care. But to get on the court, you like, all right, I'm going to play defense and I'm going to run to the corner. But like, I used to like look at y'all and be like,

I want to do that. Yeah. Like, and, but that, you earned that shit. You killed, you did your shit. Like you had 50 as a rookie.

Like niggas knew you was one of them. But I was, I used to be sitting there like, them niggas. Man, that 50 came out. I mean, I just think the whole situation came out of nowhere. Because remember, I didn't play at all the year before in Rome. So I was just more on some, like, revenge and just, like, some dark, like, just hostile shit. I seen you in the fucking workouts.

Because I was so mad because, first of all, I was getting killed every day. fucking workouts. Because I was so mad because first of all, I was getting killed every day. Jay Billis, you know, ESPN, they were just like,

you know, you know, who this kid think he is going, not skipping college. Like, you know, he doesn't need an education

and it's like, well, I'm getting the best education overseas. I'm learning life. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm learning the value of life

and like what it really, you know, what life really means. So, I don't feel like I've missed anything out in college besides you know women and partying and you know it got greater

it got better though you ain't missing anything but yeah nah but I mean I'm gonna let DJ do his thing but I was gonna say about our workouts like going into the draft you a crazy motherfucker. You was calling people out

like you ain't care so I say everybody always give me slack for messing with Ricky Ruby on our podcast. I pushed him. I did some shit, whatever. Don't worry about that.

I like Ricky. But you called him out and was like Ricky ain't like that. And I remember being in that workout before the workout came I got to describe

the whole thing to everybody. You came in with the Louis book bag. I'm from the west side of Indianapolis. I knew nothing about Louis Vuitton. And you came walking in, and you put the bag down. And I'll never forget, Tyreek Evans said, damn, you got that Louis. I said, damn, I'm supposed to know what that is. You know what I mean?

He's like, yeah. He said something like 500. I said, damn. This nigga got 500. I'm thinking $500. This nigga's got He's like, yeah. He said something like $500. I said, damn. This nigga got $500? I'm thinking $500. This nigga talking about $500,000. I'm like, he got $500,000 before? Like, shit.

What the fuck? Who is this nigga? Like, this nigga not a real person. So you start going around like, bro, you better than Ricky. You better than Ricky. You better than Ricky. I'm telling y'all, y'all niggas is better than Ricky. And he pointed at me.

I said, damn. Ricky, we're supposed to go top 10. I'm better than him. Shit, telling y'all, y'all niggas is better than Ricky. And he pointed at me. I said, damn, Ricky, we're supposed to go top 10. I'm better than him. Shit, I'm staying in this draft. Fuck it. I was going back to school. I swore to God, he was like,

I swore to God, you better than me. We did the workout. Tyreek Evans had a good workout. Boom. Go to another workout in Milwaukee. That's when I knew he was getting picked by the Bucs.

He doing his pick and roll. Shit, I ain't never seen a pick and roll in my life. I ain't do that in college. Did it at ISO. This nigga carving us up, making us look stupid. Me and Tyreek Evans,

we stopped guarding, nigga. I looked at him, I ain't guarding a nigga. You see that nigga, what he doing? But I knew you was getting picked by the Bucs. I knew you was different

when you going overseas, having a chance to learn a game, play like that. I knew you was different. I was like, he going to be good in this league. Yeah. I mean, that year in Europe was just me was like he gonna be good in this league yeah i mean that

that year in europe was just me to mature and and see what a pro is like see see what it takes to be a pro right so i was around alan ray andre hudson um i had a bunch of great uh you know guys that played you know in the league or was just from america so you know that was just a year of me learning um you know just learning how to be an adult, how to be a pro, you know, show up on time and, you know, do things the right way. So that year was just a year of learning. So that's why I always say like when I'm done, when tough crowd blows up and I'm out of here, I'm moving back to Italy.

Damn. Yeah. Like I'm moving back to Rome because that's where fashion, you know, that's where I learned about fashion and, you know, just about myself and life. So, you know, I would love to take my family and just live in Rome when it's all safe. So, hey, BJ, we appreciate you sliding on this, man. Shout out to Tough Ground.

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