Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Colts legend Edgerrin James on his HOF career, Deion Sanders' impact & playing w/ Peyton Manning

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

Hall of Fame Colts RB Edgerrin James joins the guys and discusses being drafted by the Colts in 1999 over Ricky Williams, his WILD rookie season playing alongside Peyton Manning, how it felt receiving his Hall of Fame call, University of Miami football, Deion Sanders at Colorado, the current running backs that remind him most of himself, and more! #club #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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different this time. Season 2. We made it to the second season. Appreciate y'all. You know what I'm saying? We got a special. We got family with us. But before we get to the episode, we got to talk about what we're doing right now. We've been stalling y'all out. You know what I'm saying? I've been looking for the episode with Edge. But there's a reason why we got this episode here. Jeff, you want to tell people what we got going on right now? Oh've been stalling y'all out. You know what I'm saying? I've been looking for the episode with Edge. But there's a reason

why we got this episode here. Jeff, you want to tell people what we got going on right now? Oh, man. He threw it to me, Paul. That was nuts. That was crazy. Yeah, it was crazy.

But nah, shout out to the volume, man. Hey. We finally signed, sealed, delivered with the volume. A huge opportunity.

Huge chance to be great. I'm excited my guys got it rolling he got no sunglasses his sunglasses is different what's them

finally finally what are those Gucci Prada Louis you hear me we are

the whole sex shout out to the volume though we definitely appreciate y'all. We can't wait to start this new journey with you all. We're excited. Hey, shout out to the volume. Appreciate y'all.

We going crazy right now. Season 2 Club 520 Podcast. My name is still DJ Wells. I'm the host. Like I said, we got a legend. And more importantly, to my left, we're going to introduce my man's last, but my boy out to pretty be here.

You know what I'm saying? Looking like new money today. It's time. It's time. The volume got me lit. Goddamn. Direct deposit, baby. Yeah. Shout out to Unc Shannon. Shout out to Colin. Shout out to the whole gang and behind the scenes, you know what I mean?

Helping us out on this new journey. We appreciate everything for sure. Absolutely. Season two kick off. Season two to my right. My boy. Hey, look, he laughing. We appreciate everything for sure. Absolutely. Season two, kick off. Season two, to my right. My boy. Hey, look, he laughing. He a different nigga now. I said somebody's going to go Hollywood.

We figured out who it was. Oh, we put that in the park. There you go. You see that town? Oh, yeah. We see that all season one. Soon as I seen that, that motherfucker emailed it with them numbers.

There we go. I love the volume. We like Jeffy Milwaukee. The first time. Dead facts. But to my right, my dog, young Nacho,

young Tig. How you what? Man, I'm good, man. I'm happy. I'm happy season two back around. Got my guy here. I'm going to let you

introduce him the right way. But man, these was about it though, man. Somebody said they were looking for some concourses. I said, let let you introduce him the right way. But, man, these was about it, though, man. Somebody said they were looking for some concourses. I said, let me go get these. Not the DMPs, though. It wasn't somebody.

The somebody was me. It's not my fault. It's me. I'm niggas. I was looking for some concourses and he disrespectfully came down here. Sometimes you got a stunt on a nigga, but, hey, it's cool.

Season two niggas act different. But last but not least, man, we are blessed to have a legend in our presence, a legend in the city, a legend in his sport, a legend in his profession. Dog, one of the biggest culture changes that ever happened to Indianapolis, Indiana, and the NFL. We got family with us again.

The Edge, Edwin James, my man. Appreciate you pulling back up to 520, man. Appreciate you. I'm part of 520, man. Yeah, you got it. You fair. That's why I said we ain't even got to guess. This family, Naptown Royalty, this motherfucker.

Go teeth to go jacket. Yeah, Naptown, you already know how we slide. You already, man. Look, we did an episode before, you know what I'm saying? And we're going to talk about, you know what I'm saying, you'll be here and getting it in on the court. Yo. On the court.

Let me finish. I got y'all. I ain't going to put you in a bad situation, especially not it. It ain't going to be bad for Edge. But we had to run it back because, shit, we started off a new situation. What better to start a new situation off with a legend? For sure. And we talked about the Bada Doltee got the heat on today being disrespectful.

For you, you know what I'm saying? You say you're not really into that tip of the world, but I got to ask, how did it feel the first time you was out and you seen somebody in your jersey? No, it was pretty cool. Like, it started in college, though. You know, when you come in front of the University of Miami, and then once you, like, once you start, when you become, then you start seeing it.

And when you get to the pros, it's like you're already kind of used to it, but it's just more. Everything is magnified in the pros. And that's the thing that is pretty cool. And it's actually like coming to a city like this, you know, it was totally different. You know, so it was different for me. And then when you start seeing them people embrace you, it's like they really rocking with us. You know, and it was actually pretty cool.

And that's what's fire. Because, like, I remember seeing that 32 jersey around. Like, now that's it. But like now fast forward, I was out in the grocery store and seen a little kid in an A-Ridge jersey. And I was like, that didn't feel like

that same feeling like that change and culture in the city. Like before you came to Indianapolis, it was not like this. And your imprint on the city was immediate.

And to see that now. My guy stole some jerseys from me, some Adrian James jerseys for me. Off, off. No, no, I ain't even joking. Statues, limitations, love. We talking about it. Shout out to my boy Jaren.

He went crazy for that Galleons. Nigga stole the jersey. Man, what? Why was that guy in seventh grade? I was like. Did you have a screen print? Yeah, you already know. It was Galleons.

We went authentic now. He grabbed the Peyton Manning and brought him to school. I was like, nah, you got to get that edge. He came back with the edge the next time. The police came two weeks later. So wait a minute. My boy was on house arrest.

Two weeks of it. I'm going to tell you why. Because he had a booster go back. You cannot have an Alucard with a booster. Charleston White, I keep telling y'all. I mean, that's 30 years ago. I want to go back to the beginning, though, bro. Who put the football in your hand? Who signed you up first?

When did you start taking football? South Florida. That's what we do. You come out the womb. Football is what you do in South Florida. And, you know. South Florida like that's what we do like you come out the womb like football is what you do in South Florida and you know with the weather like we play year round and for for somebody like myself you know it's like you got like you got to show these older guys I belong that's kind of that's kind of how you get ranked that's kind of how you like

really step outside of your age group. If you nine and you playing with 10 and 11 years old kids, you represent, now you're going to get ultimate respect. There ain't nothing like showing an older person up. Yeah, for sure. When you, between, there's a big difference between nine and 11. And so when you represent like that, and now you got everybody respect.

And then when you go into a same lot football field, you one of the first ones getting picked, you getting picked before the older guys. And that's what made the game mean so much to him. Plus it was easy for me. Was you out there chasing rabbits and shit? Nah, that's like on the, they're like Fred Tietum area. That's Fred Tietum.

That's Pahok, what's it called? Pahokian, bad boy. Yeah, I had some people from way before. Them boys, the Pahokians. They was fast. What's my boy, receiver? Play for Baltimore. Was a monster too, he from Pahokia.

From Baltimore? Damn. From the Baltimore Ravens? I feel bad for- From Quan. Yeah. Everyone vote? I feel bad for- From Quon. Yeah. Everyone vote? Quon Bowden.

Oh yeah, legend. I feel bad for disrespect. I should have knew that off top, but yeah. Everybody play ball down there. You know, like we play ball and like, that's your life. And it's like, you ain't playing ball, man. You ain't what's up. Did you always play running back?

Or you was like a quarterback? I played running back and I played safety. I know you wasn't a quarterback because I seen you shoot downstairs. Ooh. Yeah. I know that jump. You know what I mean?

That accuracy ain't like that. So I knew running back. Oh, man. Hey, pull the footage out, man. Hey, y'all don't be trying to sign me to no 10-day contract after you see this footage. They see that footage, they going to be like, damn, Edge can't miss.

He probably the best shooting football player I ever seen. I ain't going to lie. Real shit. Hey, nah, don't rank my hustle, man. I ain't going to blow up this spot. Man, don't blow it up. Man, I've been running this game for a long time, man. He came in here, man.

They think Edge can't nothing. He came in here. I ain't going to talk about a long time, man. They think Ez can't nothing. He came in here and... I ain't know what you talking about. Nah, he wasn't crazy. Ez was the rope-a-dope real quick. If he ain't Ali, I don't know who he is. Spool for that. Put that Tito's voice on that boy.

He thought it was a layup. I seen that first free throw. I said, oh, this nigga sweet. He thought he had something sweet. My boy took a bad, bad throw. I didn't even know. He took a bad, bad throw. I was like, we don't rock like that.

I didn't know he took that bad, bad throw. But man, that wasn't even aimed at you, man. It wasn't aimed at you, man. I know, I know. You took the smoke. I took it. But it's not how the old folks say you go to meddling in people's business.

Because that's why I said we started and then I didn't know you took that. He took a horrible bad. I'm like, ah, yeah, he ain't got a chance. He didn't even holler at me. We was supposed to go to the side and power off. It started looking fluid, boys. I'm like,

that was crazy. That was crazy. One thing you can remember, man, if you see me doing it, it start looking fluid. I'm like, that was crazy. That was crazy. One thing you can remember, man, if you see me doing it, I got a chance. If you see me doing anything, I got a chance. Now, I ain't got to say I'm the best or the greatest at it, but I got a chance.

We going to get on them dice, though. There you go. There you go. What made you choose the U? what uh there you go there you go on your ass on them dice now uh what what made you choose the U the U that's like

that's the heart and soul of South Florida you know the only thing the um the only reason you look anywhere other than the U is the U was um

going through probation they was they had all these sanctions and all that stuff so you had to start looking at other places but just in case you didn't know what you didn't know what the outcome would be.

But once they said, okay, this is the penalty. These things you got to deal with. It's a no-brainer. You know, I grew up an hour west of Miami. So it was easier for my family, friends, everybody to come. And, you know, we close-knit. And so you want people at your game. You know, it's like I went to visit Ohio State.

You know, I went up there and it's like, they only give you four tickets to the game. You got to get up there. Like we're not financially stable. We're not in position to be traveling. So it's like, I'm like, damn, I'm going to be up here by myself, really. I ain't going to really have nobody at the game. And it's, you know, and then, of course, you got the Florida schools. I went to... I visited

Florida Gators. They had Fred T. So Fred T out of the same area and Fred T was... He was already solidified. Nah, he was a year above you, right? He was a year ahead of me. So he was already stamped. So it was like, that's not somewhere you want to go if you're trying

to put your game down. And so Miami was, it was a no brainer. You always want to be a hurricane. A hurricane is everything. And then it fits me. As a Miami hurricane, you could be yourself. Other places, you got a lot of dudes that used to go to Tallahassee, Florida State, and you had to cut your hair.

You had to be clean cut. But in Miami, you could just rock out, be yourself. I don't want to go in for that. Yeah, that's what, yeah. But like, yeah, like we couldn't do that. Like we got to go where you can be yourself, you can hang loose, you know what I'm saying? You can just go do your thing, be you,

and then everybody going to embrace you because it's like a big melting pot. You know, it's every race, it's every course, everything's down there. So it's like, it's like when, it's every course, everything's down there. So it's like, it's like when, to me, it's the best place

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I really probably shouldn't even be doing it, but I'm here, so I will win. Listen to this episode of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How was that watching, like, Santana Moss and Reggie Wayne go at it? No, that was, but that's what made it so cool. Like, practice was lit because every day you're going at it. You know, every day you're seeing people compete. And so now when I look at football, I look at it a little different

because they don't really compete, or it don't seem like that to myself. But they don't have to. They're still going to be able to have success or do what they do. But we come from a different era where you had to compete. You had to whine and cry to get the ball. Now they got people checking out, coming out the game, don't want to play. Like with us, it was like that ball meant everything. Was that ever any friction between y'all three?

Friction? Nah, because it always worked together. With us, it's, man, we're going to ball out. Everybody pushing each other. The goal is to get to the league. We want to get to the league. And then all of a sudden, all of us in the league at the same time. Then it turned around to where we go calling. We say, we're going to see who's going to make the highlight,

who's going to make ESPN. We had our own little battles within. I'm going to make ESPN. I'm going to make the highlights. And we kept pushing each other. And that's what made that school so special because everybody pushed each other, everybody checked in and we all worked out in the office and it was like one meeting spot. Everybody push up, get that work in, then hit the city, enjoy the fruits of your labor and just show everybody like this how, it's like good balance. Yeah. You got to have good balance. Rob Markman, Now I got a question for you.

I know you see how it's going now. How you feel you would have fared with that NIL money, especially being in Miami? I really don't know because, like, I don't... Like, me personally, I think I probably would have did well, but, like, that's a distraction too because it's like you're going to go for that little money or you're going to go for that big money. You know, the big money is getting to the league.

The goal is to get to the NFL. And so you got, like I said, a lot of kids right now, they're sacrificing their future for right now. So that's, I mean, this thing is to be determined, but right now it don't look too good for a lot of kids. You know, they're going to cheat themselves. That's interesting that you say sacrificing because like you said, you are getting a check now. But like you said, if you ain't disciplined or you ain't focused or you don't have that team behind you with that money,

it can hinder you from getting that next check. Even with you now, you coaching and you seeing kids in high school getting approached with that type of situation, it's hard for adults to handle that bread. For them to get approached with that type of bread now, 16, 17, how do you keep their head on the prize

or their mind on the goal? See, I'm different. I got a different approach from Edge. I'm more like, I know how many people play basketball and the window is so small

to get to the NBA. So I'm like, you might not make it. The goal is to make it, but you might not, but you need to capitalize on what you got going on now like if you

killing now you making it now and somebody want to give you a million dollars right now yeah go ahead and take care of some stuff

that you might not like if you go to the real world you might you're not making a million dollars yeah that's real you not yeah

but if you can make it right now get it start your life get a head start on life I'm cool with that. But that's just my outtake because I know how hard it is. I just think the timing. Like, man, you getting money at 17, 18, 19, like, we're not educated.

And then we're not coming from, like, you're not coming from educated households. So it's like the blind leading the blind. And we don't have nobody that's been there, done that, that can teach somebody. And that's, I think that's the problem.

But it's kind of different though because most of these kids be having agents. Like, once they start getting NIL deals, they be having agents. Yeah,

but still, they still don't know. I mean, you don't know personally. Yeah, you don't, that's what I'm saying, you don't know personally.

You hope people do right by you. That's right. But, it's, man, it's't know personally. Yeah, you don't. No, I'm saying you don't know personally. You hope people do right by you. That's right. But it's, man, it's like in our sport, you know, it's still 70, 80% of everybody go flat. You know, I don't know what the percentage is in y'all's sport. It's about the same. And so it's like, there's a reason behind that. And I think the reason has to do with the timing. You know, it's like you think about what you'll do with your money at 25 or 30 versus when you're 17, 18.

Like, you know, like our priorities are different. You know, we're thinking about having fun. We're thinking about getting the new J's, sneaker hair. You know, we're doing all that, you know, we're doing all that fly stuff, you know. But we don't really think about down the road. And I think that's where the problem comes because it's like after all those years,

why the percentages stay in the same? It's like you going into the NBA or you going into the NFL and I'm telling you that 78 to 80% of the athletes go broke. And you know this. And it still happens.

You know, so, and I just think it has to do with, you know, financial education from an early standpoint. And then where we coming from. We coming from broken homes. And that's the real part about it is like, like you're saying, even in the situation where you go to the league as a one and done, you 19 and if your family ain't in a certain financial situation,

you literally the breadwinner in your lineage and be him, boys. Even if I don't know, who gonna tell me no? Because I'm the one making the ends, and if you don't have that direction, you are kind of out the loop. That's true.

Nah, I mean, it's a fact, but more to me, like, I. Nah, I mean, it's a fact. But more to me, like, I get it. I mean, shit. It's going to happen. But if you're one of them dogs and you get NIL money, it's a good chance.

If somebody willing to pay you a million dollars, it's a good chance you're probably going to make it to the league. Yeah. Like, you're not getting that much money and you're like, nah. It's a good chance you're probably

going to go to another level. So, I mean, it's to each his own. But I got a different approach to it, like a different question to you. Like, the U was so big. When I remember watching Miami when I was younger, it was like, y'all was like an NFL team. It was like, everybody wanted to go there. I wanted to go

there and play basketball because... You should have went, man. They had a dude named Eddie Rios. I don't know if you know him. He was the number, like, supposed to be one of the top guys. Tell him your story, Kee. And he went, he ended up going to Miami. So, I took Miami off my list.

And Jack McClinton was there. Yeah. He was killing it at that time. But do you think Miami will ever get back to, like, how y'all had it? I mean, it's cool, but y'all had it to an elite level. It was like Alabama is right now, even though they struggled a little bit this year. It was a firehouse. Yeah, for sure.

I think it's going to come down to, we got a coach that's on the parks. He's dealing with the youth. He's involved with the people that's actually going to push that thing to the next level. And I think that's where the board on took off. You look at all the top players,

a lot of them coming from Florida, but Nick Saban and Ohio State, they're going and grabbing these kids. So if we're able to keep the kids on, then yeah, we can get back. If we can't keep our Florida, South Florida kids on, it's going to be tough.

Because if you look at all the top players, you know, they're coming and recruiting these guys, and I don't know how much, especially with the NIL thing, to what, I don't know how deep certain people's pockets are, but you're going to be able to come and grab some kids. So as long as we're able to compete with them from an NIL standpoint and keep the kids home, we got a good chance. But it's going to take that because the game changed now. Now you're going to see schools that's willing to spend the money.

Their school going to go up. They get the right coach, spend the money. Look at Colorado, for example. They're going up. Talk about it. That's a program that hasn't been successful in a long time, but they're doing something to get those kids. They got prime, but they're giving prime some ammunition. Would you win to Colorado if he recruited you, if you was coming out right now? Nah, I'm South Florida. I can't leave South Florida.

That's home. It's the same thing if I went to Ohio State or something. I want to be where I'm comfortable at. So I wouldn't have gone personally because that's all I knew was South Florida. But if my child was in the position I'm in now and he wanted to go, yeah, because I know he's going to get the best coaching. He's going to get a father figure. He's going to get everything he wants.

So for a lot of these kids, I can see why they go, because they're getting more than a coach. A lot of these dudes, they're just coaching. Man, this man really like parenting. Yeah, he take the time to learn each player. You can take your, you can say, man, drop him off over there with Prime and I ain't worried. You can sleep good.

You can't say that about every coach. And I think we were talking about this earlier. I think what's so crazy about what he's doing up there is the fact that he's already surpassed college coaches as far as influence-wise, especially being a black man. I don't think we'll probably find another influential coach in the college football rankings close to Deion for a very long time period. Based off him being Deion off the field,

what he did on the field, and just his approach to leadership. Like, what he did with Jimmy Hornsund in the middle of that game, and him speaking about it, was crazy to me. And no disrespect to none of those coaches. Obviously, you know Nick Saban is one of them goats,

but you won't see that from him. It won't be publicized enough. I think as far as a culture impact thing, I don't think we'll ever see a coach that's close to Deion in a very long time period. It's going to be tough because he brings so much,

but there's a blueprint being created. Yeah. And so now, now you're going to see kids getting more attention. You're going to see more of the stuff because if you're a player, you look at things from one perspective

and then you step on the other side, but you still remember that first side. And so all Prime doing is showing y'all the things that he wished he had or he's seeing it from a player's perspective and finding that happy medium. Because we still got to take care of business. He never get away from hard work, doing the things you got to do to win. To be successful, you got to do certain things. He never get away from that. the things you got to do to win. To be successful, you got to do certain things. He never get away from that. But he still

he don't trip on the things that other people trip on. They'll say, oh, well, you're on your Instagram too much. He telling you, he put Instagram names on the back. Let me get rid of all that. You know, so he like that cool, that cool uncle that you can go around and be yourself.

And those kids going to gravitate to and I think if the next wave of coaches, if they don't take on that, they're going to lose out. Because you're going to have to be more than just, hey, why you not at practice? Why you doing it? You're going to have to be that father figure. And a lot of us, we didn't have those father figures.

And so we find them in somebody along our journey. And in the pros, Tony Dungy was the same thing, but a different approach. But he was the same exact thing when it came to athletes, especially a lot of athletes that's from single parent home. It's like, you can gravitate like, man, dang, that's a cool, like, that's a like, man, dang, that's a cool daddy. That's a cool man. And you're like, man, I can rock with that. But you're still going to do

exactly what he say, but it's the way he said it. You ain't going to be like, no, I ain't doing this. No, you're going to rock out and be like, man, I don't want to let him down because he treats you like a man. But it's super important for him to let you know that, like, look, a family first, I'm here for you, is bigger than sport. Once the athlete feel that,

you got that athlete. Yeah, facts. Would you have went there, Shiloh? Nah. You would have chose, if you played football, if you was a senior? Nah, I wouldn't have went to Colorado.

Right now, you wouldn't fucking with it? Nah. Why not? That ain't my type. I ain't a high-light, like, I ain't a that type of person. You are a discipline. Nah. I went to Colorado. Right now, you wouldn't fucking with it? Nah. Why not? That ain't my type. I ain't a highlight. Like, I ain't a that type of person.

Nah. I went to Wake Forest. And that's what I'm saying. I'm trying to agree with you. Nah, I'm just saying, yeah, that ain't my style. They got too much going on. Damn.

I'ma chill. I'm chill. But on the long and hard of the coaching shit, I think we're super fired with you coaching our alma maters. The fact that they get to see living proof.

Yeah, I was in the same hallways y'all was in. Yeah. I got the... But I'm on that prime at Pike. Oh, I know. That's why I'm on Instagram. They gonna see.

The video's coming. I'm on all that. Bro on that. This first season's about to get real. Yeah, for sure. Out the gate. Now, Ish, obviously we talked about

how you went crazy in college. Now it's time to go to the pros. How was your draft process? And did you have an idea that you was going to be in Indianapolis? No, I really didn't. I never spoke to the coach. Never talked to them. And that's what was so crazy about it.

I was like, man, as long as I get in the first round, I ain't really tripping. I just want to go be an NFL player. And then as you start getting close to this thing, I was like, man, as long as I get in the first round, I ain't really tripping. I just want to go be an NFL player. And then as you start getting close to this thing, you start shaping up to where you saw Marshall Falk get traded. Well, the Colts got to get a running back, and everybody thought it was going to be Ricky Williams. So you're like, okay, well, I know I'm going to be in the top 10, top 15, regardless. So you never knew. I mean, you never know what's going to happen, but at the same time, you just keep working.

Like, I never went on, like, the banquet circuit. I didn't go nowhere. I just stayed in Miami. I stayed in Miami and just worked and just continued to work. I didn't have an agent. Like, I wouldn't get an agent. Like, I didn't believe in getting an agent or none of that. I just like, man, look, I'm going to get myself drafted.

I don't need nobody. All I need to do is stay here and work. And so, just continue working. And draft day came. I had my little Nokia phone. Like, nobody had, like, I'm the plug. I'm the one you call. If I'm going to get drafted, I'm going to be the first one.

I ain't going to go to no agent. I ain't going to go to nobody. Call me. And it went down from there. Damn, they called you on the Nokia with the snake on it? Nokia, you know. Yeah. Hold on. So, they called you on the no kill with the snake on there? No kill, you know. Yeah. Hold on.

So what made you go that route? Because only one person I know. Y'all Lamar. I knew Gilbert Arenas had no agent. And I knew Jalen Brown and maybe Ray Allen. What made you not have an agent? Because you meet these people. I didn't really trust nobody, first of all. I'm like, all I got is the people who I know. And then all of a sudden, you got all these people that I ain't really trust nobody first of all I'm like all I got is the people

who I know and then all of a sudden you got all these people that start to push up on you it started happening my sophomore year they started to push up so like

I'm not trusting nobody and then when I started looking at the when you start looking at the overall thing it's like like what purpose are they going to serve me

you know I think aging is good for for the player that needs, like, somebody to push or that can get them, you know, kind of go speak for them. But a player that's knowing he going in the first round, it's like, dog, why you give up your leverage? Like, you control the cards. And so for me, I was like, nah, I don't need nobody.

All I need to do is, I got University of Miami. I don't want to go nowhere. Everybody that was getting money, they ain't doing nobody getting the credit line. So they ain't giving you no money. And then I had done flipped it. I had every agent that was recruiting me giving me money, but I had no ties to them. So that was how I was like, man,

I don't see why everybody playing this game the wrong way because it's too easy. It's a layup. Like you're looking at, I got 20, 30 of these dudes pushing up on me, trying to do all this for me. And I'm like, well, I'm just going to rock out and, okay, you want to give me some money? You want to do this for me?

You want to do it? I'm not committed to nobody because I don't need nobody, you know? And so I rolled it out like that. And I look at everybody, they got credit lines, they got vehicles, they got all that. I'm like, I don't need that because everything I look at everybody, they got credit lines, they got vehicles, they got all, I'm like, I don't need that because everything I need is right there in Miami.

Got the strength conditioning coach right there. We got all the guys that been to the pros before. I'm like, man, all I need to do is just go kill

this fucking combine. If I kill this and I make sure I take care of my business, I already know I'm going first round. And I'm coming from one of the poorest towns in Florida.

So it's like everything I get is a bonus. And I'm like, all I need is money one time. You give me money one time, you ain't got to never worry about me again. Because I'm going to do something with it. I'm going to make sure I hold on to that. And I'm going to value it. So I wasn't really tripping on, I got to get this agent to do this for me, get this person to do that for me.

Like I'm betting on myself. I always bet on myself and I still do it to this day. And it works. That's a good thing you just said. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis

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social media recently, and Steven Jackson was saying he would rather have $50 million in a championship instead of 100 million. I wonder where that conversation started from. I'm completely out. It definitely came from our podcast,

but it's all good. Shout to us. I said I get my ring up and take a max deal contract any day of the week. But you saying that remind me what he was saying on the video.

He came from nothing. If you give him, remind me what he was saying on the video. Like, he came from nothing. If you give him $20 million, he can make $20 million and $250 million or whatever. Cool. You saying that, how do you feel about that? Nah, I mean, I'm always going to get the money.

Like, because in this game, I'm going to give you my all. You know, I'm going to give you everything I got. But it's a team game. And in this this game, I'm going to give you my all. I'm going to give you everything I got. But it's a team game. And in this team game, if from the top all the way down to the last player, if they're not doing their part, I can't do nothing about that. But I'm going to give you my everything. But I do know there's a window.

And when you know poverty and you know what you don't have, it's like, I'm going to always keep that the main thing. I'm going to always take care of my business. You know, if you're a person that's coming from the financial success or you already had all this stuff,

then you can probably see it that way. But us, man, like, man, look, it's a game. I'm going to give you everything I got, but I'm going to need that money because I got to take care of down the road. And it's like, man, the line it's a game. I'm going to give you everything I got, but I'm going to need that money because I got to take care of down the road. And it's like, man, the line's so long. I still got people asking, you know?

It's like the line too long for us to sit up there and say, hey, I'm going to go and take this championship and take less. It's like, no, man, like you have to be a business person yourself. And the crazy part is like, I've personally been offered Super Bowl rings from players that needed money. You know what I'm like? And that just put things in perspective.

I'm like, y'all got a Super Bowl, but he's trying to sell it. So it tells you how serious it is. You know, like, man, get me the financials first. Now, when the financials out of the way, okay, I would love to go to the highest of the high. But right now, man, we trying to dig out of this hole, this hole that we was birthed into. You know, so, and everybody, like, I think every, I think throughout every family, there's somebody that can break that mold. There's an opportunity that comes, but we don't always recognize it,

and we don't always chase it. Sometimes we hold each other back, or you hold this person back. But if you got an opportunity to take your family out of that situation, there's no way you don't take it. That's 100. We're going to revisit that championship conversation a little bit shortly. That's it. Yo, you come to the city, but before you come to the city,

you ended up meeting your quarterback before you even knew you was going to be a coach. And what's crazy is, like, you talked about Marshall Folt. You know, that was a big deal for Colts fans, letting him go. And then number two, from the running back. Whole city thought, you know what I'm saying, the year before we had Ryan Leaf and Peyton Manning. I don't know what the fuck

they was on thinking it was supposed to be Ryan Leaf, but it was damn sure they got it right with Peyton Manning. And then come back next year with you, everybody's like, oh, Ricky Williams,

Ricky Williams. And then we get Edge. And some people were like, why did we do that? And then you came in first year and went fucking crazy. I think it's like everybody, I'll tell you the importance of advertising.

You know, advertising, that's why they pay so much for the Super Bowl advertising because they can push anything or can push the mind in any direction. But when you have a person that know what they're doing, it's like Ricky's a great running back. But for the coach's offense, it takes a different type of back.

And that's why it's like you couldn't say, okay, yeah, he's better or I'm better. You had to say what's best for this situation. Because Ricky Williams wasn't somebody that had to sit up there and pass pro all the time. I had to pass pro at the University of Miami. We had to block. We had to do all those things. In the coach's offense, you got to do those things. You got to be had to block. We had to do all those things. In the coach's offense, you got to do those things. You got to be ready to catch. I don't know how well they catch or

whatever, but me, I was one time about to be a receiver. So I can catch the ball and I can run the ball. So when you're talking about what makes sense for the Indianapolis coach, not what makes sense from an advertising or from a popularity standpoint. Bill Polian and Mr. Ursa, they understand what it takes to build a championship team. So they did what's best for the organization, not best from a popularity standpoint. I think sometimes people get caught up in

trying to win people over versus saying, I'm going to do what's best for me. I'm going to do what's best for y'all. I'm not going to do what's best for me. And then all of a sudden, you know, if things don't work out, they still going to switch out on you. Ron Leaf and Ricky Williams would have been a nasty combo. In another timeline, the coach had Ron Leaf and Ricky Williams.

They were ass. Ricky Williams would have been a goddamn. Shout out to Ricky. Ricky was cold. Definitely cold. He definitely was cold. But they didn't like his off the field shenanigans. Oh, in this state, boy, the way they be acting towards us,

they would have hated Ricky. Ricky was the first Wiz Khalifa. Talk about it. The first pack on deck. And they was hating. When you look at the running back field now, who like remind you of yourself? Before Zeke.

Yeah. When Zeke was on his thing, he was running real solid, like low pad level, finished the run strong. You know, that was one person I was like, yeah,

he got that total package game. You know, right now, I got to kind of see who the new wave of guys, because right now, you know, it's turned into a passing league,

so you don't really get a chance to see who can do it all. Right now, McCaffrey probably the best running back out there because he can do both. Every game. Yeah.

I got a question off that one. What about out of the Miami running backs? Clint Portis, Willis McGahee, or Frank Gore? Out of them three, who do you think?

I always, like, I think it's a situation. It's all situational. It's like, everybody always try to compare who the best running back. I always defer because, man, I'm already stamped.

Go team, go team. I was just saying, who reminds you of you? Nah, it's like everybody's style different. Oh, okay. Man, if Portis took football more serious, Portis would have been killing it even more in the league. That's your mans too. Yeah.

And then you got like Frank, man. If you look at what Frank went through, Frank show you what it's like to have it in here, you know? Go. And then Willis, man. If Willis don't get hurt, man. Willis cold. Willis raw, man.

You know what I'm saying? So we had dudes that they had their own style, but at the end of the day, they was great. And everybody has a story. It's like when you look at everybody, you're like, man, I'll take any one of them any day, and I don't even have to look back. For sure.

Last running back question, I promise. But we look at today's current climate running backs, look at the situation with the coach with like JT and them figuring that out. And then you look in the way that they're doing running backs in the market for it now. Obviously, we know how great you are. You would have adapted this league

because you can pass block and you can catch no problem. But if you were coming up in this era, would you maybe have thought about playing a different position? Obviously, you say you might have been a wide receiver at one point. With the way that they have the market now, would you have thought about switching positions?

Or your kid wanted to play that position, Pauls, would you want to steer him away from playing running back? Well, I do have a son that plays running back. He's at Howard. He's actually pretty nice. But I told him, you better up your passing game.

You better get to where you're running your routes. Because if you don't do that, you know, you start looking at this thing, it's not going to work in your favor. But if you can play three downs, you can be a third down back, you can catch that ball, you can block, you can do it all, you got a better chance of being one of the top payers. And you look at the highest paid right now is McCaffrey. But he can do it all.

Yes, sir. And so as a running back, I think, you know, I think they're going to need some, they're going to need to be some adjustments. May, of course, the running back not getting treated the way we all think is fair. But, you know, it's a business, and we know it's going to happen however it happens.

So I just think you up your game. You learn how to get in that passing game, become part of that. Because if you look at Deebo Samuels from the 40s, now he's a running back. He's not a wide receiver. He can do it all. So I think

the evolution of the game is going to turn into where you got to be able to do a little bit more. Because it's not so much as we're just going to sit there and just pound this thing no more. It's not happening. It don't look like it unless there's some rule changes or something. That's real. Now, I got to ask, man, because you're so important to this city and the culture that

you brought to this city. Obviously, you get drafted, you come here. What was your first impression of being in the NAP? NAP was cool. Like, it was, you know, it was different, but, like, people was nice. You know, it's like, and NAP is like black, white. You know, it ain't like. A little bit more of one than the other.

Yeah, like, down south, you know, you don't know what you're talking to, you know, until they actually say something. You know, so it was more of, like, cut and dry to where it's like, okay, this is the way the city go. And then once I linked up with our people, it was like, man, it's actually pretty cool because now I can move around in these areas and I wasn't really tripping. It gave me, you know,

and then they was inviting, they was welcoming. And so it wasn't really no thing where you're like, I'm out of place. And the thing, I was so young and you're in a situation where I don't know what's good or bad.

I don't know if you're with me, it's called Hallville or whatever. Well, tell us about some of the spots you was pulling up to, though. They'd be like, man, don't go. And I used to go to high school football games. Oh, you don't want to go to Arlington? I'm like, man, I'm going over there. They had you at the Arlington Rumble game?

You embraced the... Yeah, Derrick Ellis, man. Yeah, he was cold. Ellis, he was cold and nice running back. And I'm like, man, I'm going to the game. That's what we do. Like, we go to football games. We go and we get in the thick of things.

And, you know, you get all these warnings like, hey, don't go here. Don't go there. And I'm like, I don't really know no difference, you know. It's like, man, we're going to go here. We're going to go hang here. And we're going to kick it in. Of course, you know, like when you grow up in the elements, you already kind of know

like, okay, you know what to look out for. You know okay, yeah, this thing looking a little out of pocket right now. I need to move around. And so you're going to move a certain way. And man, that was nothing but love from the beginning. And then it's like the things that we like to do, like we like to come

outside. We like, you know, I was into the old school car. They got the... Still got the old school. school pulled up with it in the city a couple of weeks ago. Yeah. And it's like the other day, that was, I could have went to Riverside, but they say it's Sunday. We're trying to go on Saturday.

It shut down. They just shut it down last week. But they said they had, oh, they did. It's a car show tomorrow too. Somewhere, but I got something to do,

but that was, that was cool. Like we bring the cars up here and then you start getting your teammates from Florida and from down south. Like, hey man, let's get these cars. We all young. You know, we young. We're like, man, let's get out. Let's flex through the city. Let's have fun. And man, it was fun. That was like, that gave us something to do, especially when you had to come to the workouts for off-season workouts.

That's the dead time. But the weather's good in that. You come up here, you get to pull out, pull out the vert, go through, hang out. And so it was actually pretty cool because we brought that South Florida, our comfort zone right up here. And it wasn't like you was out of place. Man, Edge was on trade. Edge was outside, dog.

He was on Riverside on Sundays. You was in Ripple. Yeah, everywhere. You and Lance Stevenson, the first thing. The Kings of Brown Ripple. Man, y'all the only people the city love. Man, you and Lance. What was y'all Monday night spot?

We used to have this at the mall. I used to have this Monday night football. That was the spot. Like, every time. Like, I even brought Peyton down. You know, brought Peyton down one time. You brought Pete Mulder outside? Yeah.

Like, but that was part of our team bonding. And Pete, he's super cool, man. Pete, he cool as hell, man. I don't think people get it. The real people don't get the chance to see how cool a dude is, you know? But, you know, that's, you know? But, you know, that's to each his own, you know, like, shit, we still vibe,

we still kick it, but he came out to Monday Night Football, that was actually cool, and a lot of people was surprised or shocked, and I'm like, man, I thought this what ball players do, because down in South Florida, like, man, the Dolphins players, they outside, you know, the Heat players, they out, you know, you're used to seeing that. But they kind of had to, like, man, the Dolphins players, they outside.

You know, the Heat players, they out. You know, you're used to seeing that. But they kind of had to, Edge, because y'all was bigger stars than them. But at the same time, you're getting the pros, man. Like, you made it. So it's like, man, every chance I get to celebrate and hang out, I'm out there. You know, it's like, you got to be out there. And so I thought it was the norm. And then everybody was like, I can't believe you here.

I can't believe you outside. I'm like, I thought that's what we do because, like, man, you know how hard it is to make it? Like, man, we made it. I'm 21 years old. It's up. Man, I'm not giving up my Monday or Tuesday when I don't have to, you know? For sure.

How was that life for you? Obviously, once you got acclimated to ATL, like, how would you embrace and going outside? Because the city fuck with you. They still fuck with you to this day. Atlanta's one of our biggest markets in the podcast.

Shout out to ATL. It was up. It was up. I was 20 when I got there, turned 21. It was up, man. I was with a whole bunch of people who had a whole bunch of money,

so I didn't have to spend any money. Yeah. So all the old heads, Josh, Joe, Jamal, they all took care of me. So I went out with them. And then Mike Bibby was my vet. And Mike Bibby wanted to go out all the time. He was getting a little later in his career, so he was outside. So anytime I wanted to go anywhere, he was like, let's go.

And then I had to pick him up. I had to do all the rookie stuff. Damn, he was a prime Uber. Yeah, I was an go. And then I had to pick him up. I had to do all the rookie stuff. Damn, he was a prime Uber. Yeah, I was a Uber. I was the first Uber for Bibby. But nah, I ain't know nothing different. So when I got older like going out still to this day, like now my wife, she'd be like, where you going

now? I'm like, man, I just gotta move around. I'm used to it. So it's all good. That's for sure, man. You came into the league and the Colts were eh, but then as soon as you got there, it changed. And I remember y'all having that real,

real, real important game against my Cowboys. How was that playing in that game? Because I know you look forward to that moment. Nah, that was a game. We had been named the baby triplets or the new triplets. And to actually be playing against the Cowboys, I grew up in South Florida, Deion Sanders, 239. He like the legends to everybody. Anything Deion is up. And so I got a chance to actually be on the field

with Deion. You see Mike, you see Emmitt, you see Troy. I think one of them didn't play, but we still, you know, you find yourself during the game, you know, you're supposed to be going through your reps, you're supposed to be going through all your stuff, but you find yourself steady looking back. You steady looking back and you want to check out like how they did it, what they do. And that was one of them games that you will never forget. And then we actually won that game here. So that was big.

That was like one of the things where it's like, we've arrived. And I think all of us, we embrace that situation because you always got to pay homage to the people that came before you. And those are the reason why you where you're at because you have a milestone or you have an example and they were the example how they work together and we just came and we work together you know if it's if we gotta pass we're gonna pass and i'm gonna block every time you know we gotta run more than one do their thing you know they're gonna pass block i mean they're gonna run block

out there and do their thing every time so So you embrace it. You know, you start understanding like, man, this is what a team is about. And that's why they were so successful. Who was your vet? Who was my vet? When you got to the Colts, who embraced you? Cornelius Bennett. You know, he had came from Buffalo Bills. He had been over there, had success.

He was one of the guys. And then other than that, it really wasn't, you know, of course Marv was there, but you got to get to know Marv before, like Marv don't let you in until you get to know, you know, I was young. And so then me and Marv, man, me and Marv became like this, man, like every day. But you know, when you first get there,

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This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, I am joined by the greatest alpine skier of all time, Michaela Schifrin. Michaela talks about the ski accident that changed everything for her, performing while going through grief, and what it's like to release the pressure of being the GOAT, and so much more. Like, I have no right to be winning this race. I really probably shouldn't even be doing it, but I'm here, so I will win.

Listen to this episode of Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For sure. Now, obviously,

we know what you did with the Colts. Obviously, you're in the Hall of Fame. We're going to talk about that, too. But your last year with the Colts, did you think you were going to leave

Indianapolis? That was a numbers thing. Like, anybody that put a personal feeling in this business, you set yourself up for failure. So for me, I've always known that, okay, if the salary cap doesn't go up to certain numbers, it's either I'm going to have to devalue myself or, you know, a decision has to be made.

So I'm never tripping on any of that stuff because you remember when I come into this thing, I'm thinking, man, business first. Because I'm coming to a business, it's business first for me always. And so I ain't tripping on this. I'm not tripping on that. And it's like, no, you enjoy the moment.

You enjoy the time. We created something special here and it'll always be here. But the rules are the rules. And you got to always play by the rules. Yeah. But did it hurt a little bit when you was like, all right, I'm in my new situation. We going crazy. Then you look up and it's like, the coach did what?

Nah. Nah, because you got to remember, when you real about what you say and you live by what you say, it don't move you. You're not affected. You know what I'm saying? I'm pure. When I say, man, I ain't tripping, I'm really not tripping. When I say, I do, I really do.

When I say, I don't, I really don't. And it's when people, I think sometimes when people say something and they have a feeling other than it contradicts what they say, like you ain't really what you're saying. Like me, I'm really what I'm saying. So when I, when it's time for me to move on, you know, and then they get,

they got Joseph Adai. Yes, sir. You know, I make sure I let Joseph Adai say everything you need to know. You know, anything you need to know about this offense, I know this offense inside out.

I'm going to help you out. I'll teach you anything. Call me. Whatever you need. I want to make sure that you'll be able to have success in this game. You know?

And to a lot of people, they don't think like that. They don't. Because, man, this is my family. You know, it's your family, but at the same time, business trumps certain things. And so, man, this is my family. You know, it's your family, but at the same time, business trumps certain things.

And so, man, I'm not mad to go get some money and move on and not get a chance to go and make new friends and experience something different. And then, plus, it's a challenge for me. I went to one of the worst teams and was able to make it to the Super Bowl.

You know, so it's like, when you look back, you're like, dang, I made a, I jumped out on a limb and I did something that nobody else probably wouldn't have done. But that's what's part. That's part of what makes you you. You're like, man, like, I know I'm special. I know I'm somebody that can make a difference or betting on myself.

And I went out and I had success. You know, it didn't end the way you wanted it to end. Like, you wanted to win that Super Bowl, but you think about it, you're taking a team that never, ever... Did nothing. Nothing. And you're in the Super Bowl. You know, that's a big deal. That's a major accomplishment. And then to

watch the Colts go to the Super Bowl, it was like down in Miami. I had everybody out hanging out, kicking it, and like I ain't tripping. And then the owner give me a ring. You know, it's just out of respect. You know, it's like, I ain't play the game, but that just show you how much you mean to the organization and the impact you had. That, man, you know what? This is my family. You can't sit up there and say, man, this

is not my family because I'm over here. Once you say this is my family, that's your family. Family is forever. You can't get divorced at. And that's real. He talk about it all the time, his temp job he had in Boston, but he talk about how he really connected with his team for the first time. Not the first time, my temp job.

Yeah, that was... You was on the assignment. I was. I was there for about 30 days. You was on the aid. But it's cool. Nah, but them's cool. Nah, but them really became

my bros. Yeah, I rock with them dudes, man. I was only there for three months, three or four months. A little cup of coffee?

Yeah, I had some donuts from Dunkin', but that's about it. But that's real, like, your approach about that is real,

because a lot of people be, oh, well, I don't like them no more. Like, I done went to war with these dudes.

I done got a personal relationship. Just because I got a different job. That's like, in real life, you get mad at somebody, like, ah, I don't like you no more. Like, I done went to war with these dudes. I done got a personal relationship. Just because I got a different job. That's like in real life, you get mad at somebody like, ah, I switched jobs. Don't fuck with y'all no more. Like, damn, we was just cool last week.

It's bigger, like, man, a lot of people, they look at sports and they just keep everything about sports. Man, this is real life. Like, these the people you're going to deal with. Like, still to this day, I make a phone call to anybody on that team.

You know, the connection is still there. It's like, how are you going to sit up there and just go against something? And you see somebody doing something and they're having success. You're supposed to be so happy for them. You know, it's like, I probably partied more than them. I was like, man, y'all got to go get ready for practice. I'm out. I'm in the club.

I got to hang out. You know, I'm out. I'm in the club. I got to hang out. Because you have to be a secure person. You can't be weak and you can't be influenced by outsiders. And one thing about the media and the way it works is to trigger you. Nobody can't trigger me because everything is real right here. It's like, you're not going to say, oh, well, the coach did you this. Man, the coach took good care of me. I was one of the highest paid running backs

through the history of the game. Talk about it. How can I be mad at them? And then still, and proof that the relationship is strong. Look at where I'm at today. I'm still working with the coach. So it's like,

you can't let people get you off your square. And I think a lot of times, away from football, people let outside people influence them. And they mess up things

for them going forward. They don't even see it happening when this man just played you out of a good position. You know, like, and you tripping on this dude when this dude really got your back.

This dude really don't have nothing to gain from you. But now you let somebody get in your ear and trigger you to make you go against this person when this person never had nothing to gain from you and just pure love for you. And now you done played yourself out of that situation. It's like, I never let nobody play me out of the situation. You're not going to beat me off my square. Rob Markman, Evidently, like you said, you can't have nobody in a position to where the game's going to be the game no matter who plays the play, but you're going to beat me off my square. Evidently, like you said, you can't have nobody in a position to where the game's going to be the game no matter who plays the play. But you're going to have those

people who really genuinely care for you. You don't want to trick yourself out your situation, like you said. And obviously, the way you're still like one of the biggest ambassadors for the Colts. Anytime there's an event, you see Ed's there, you know it's for real. You still got that same report like you did in the 90s as you do now. And what's more important about that is Hall of Famer. You are a Hall of Fame runner back. You are a Hall of Fame player. A lot of people don't make that. And you did that off being solid.

So it make it even better because when you look and see Edge, Edge is Edge. Edge is still outside. Ain't stopped being outside. That you are like the icon of like being yourself, taking care of business and still being respected and put on the pedestal the way you're supposed to. I'm with Bubba Chuck.

Hey, talk about it, man. Yeah, you and Chuck. When I used to be in Atlanta, yeah, I used to be like, I see Chuck outside. Yeah. I see Edge. Cheesecake Factory.

I used to be like, yeah, he be at that Cheesecake Factory. Cheesecake Factory, yeah, yeah. At Cumberland. He know what I'm talking about if he listening. I used to be like,

man, they just live life. Like, somehow I got to get there. Like, I don't know, they leave the Phantom outside. He wasn't tripping.

Then you see Edge and you see him, they just living. They have enjoying themselves. And I'm like, man, they doing something right. Life treating them good

because some other people I know, they can't go to the club still or they going to the club and like, you know, searching. You know what I'm talking about. They like...

I just, man, when I look, it's like, man, sometimes, even when I like talk to like people in the media,

like you see somebody got a media job. Yeah. But then when they get off camera, they the coolest motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. Man, hold up, man. You not being yourself. You not being yourself.

You not being you. And that always bought, I'm like, man, like, you got to be what you are. You get the best out of you when you just be who you are. It's like people going to accept you and going through this thing. It's like I got here, I was always me. I said, I'll make it to the Hall of Fame, I'm going to make it to the Hall of Fame being me. And that's one thing I take pride in

because they got these stigmas out there that you have to go and suck up to the media, or you got to go do this, you got to be politically right, you got to do all these things. When like, man, it's about bottom line. Can you ball? Did you do what it take? And when your number's called, man, they're going to do whatever they do in those rooms. And if it check out, they're going to call your number. How was that for you when you found out you was going to be in the Hall of Fame? Obviously, you put in the work you knew you was eligible for. You should be in there like you are. But how was that process for you and to get that call to find out? How was that for you?

For me, I waited so many years. I don't know how many years I waited, but I knew it would happen eventually. But I never was one of those guys that said, I'm going to go to the hotel, wait on a knock. That was kind of the process they had in the past. But I was like, nah, I'm not doing that. I ain't with all that monkey nah, I'm not doing that. Like, I ain't with all that monkey. I don't do all that.

You know, it's like, I'm not going to put my family through that. I'm not going to waste my time. So I'm going to have everything. I'm just going to live my life as if, like, ain't nothing happening. And if it do happen, man, I'm quick on my feet. I know how to get to the event, you know. And so event. And so I was just laying in the bed. I was just chilling, getting ready for the nightlife because it was in Miami. And I got the phone call. When I got the phone call, it was like, man, that shit real. And next thing you know, everything just went full throttle. You only had an hour or less than two hours to be at this awards show.

You had to be ready. Damn. Because that's why they want you in the hotel. But me, I'm like, nah, I ain't putting myself in that situation. I think that right there builds resentment, anger. You see a lot of guys, they be angry. Like,

I ain't put my, like, you'll never catch me angry because I'm not about to go sit in a hotel room waiting on a knock. Nah, that's not going to happen.

Because like they did my boy from the Cowboys. I think Drew Pearson, they had him waiting all them years to do that. Like, man, like, you forget how good you were

and make you feel some type of way. It's like you said, you got to enjoy your food celebrity post-football. A lot of people, even in basketball, once they stop playing basketball, life changes. They stop playing their sport, life changes. And you get that doubt and that resentment because you're trying to adjust to a different type of life.

But that man that waited that long to get that call was just like, I can see how nerve-wracking that is. So there ain't no way you could just sit there and be like, all right, be in this hotel. I hope these niggas knock today. Like, that's a crazy feeling. I got the perfect approach, man. Man, just live. You know,, all right, be in this hotel. I hope these niggas knock today. That's a crazy feeling. I got the perfect approach, man. Just live. Just go through, live. The one year it was in Atlanta, I ain't get the call, but I ain't trip.

I go to the day party. It's like, man, in life, you got to have these counters. It's always going to be ups and downs. It's going to be good things, bad things. But every time something happened that you wanted to happen or it didn't, or it didn't happen like you expected it to happen, man, you got to counter that with something else. You know, so I counter everything with life.

Man, what made, who, like, what made you like that? Who, like, put that? Man, I just think looking at, just looking at, man, like, I look at all these people disappointed. I mean, these people that's disappointed in this and they always blaming this. They got, like, I'm like, man, dog, I made it out of nothing. Like, so I got a greater appreciation for everything. It's like, you can't really get me to trip.

Like, man, I get to actually leave where I grew up. I get a chance to see the world. I get a chance to be around people. Ain't no way I can trip. Like, how can I trip when knowing where we're coming from? And then as an African-American, you're looking like, man, we put in situations where we ain't really able to experience life. So if I got a chance to experience life, you think I'm going to give that up? You think I'm going to waste any day on some stuff that I can't control?

It's like, man, what's next? Okay, we can't go here. Okay, what's next? If I go to a club, somebody say, oh, well, you're, all right, cool. That means we need to be somewhere else. You know, anything I can't get, I just go to something that's not for me. Or like, man, dang, I got to get my weight up. I get my weight up, I'll be back.

But right now, they don't see me the way that I probably thought they seen me. Like, everything is up, man, dang, I got to get my weight up. I get my weight up, I'll be back. But right now, they don't see me the way that I probably thought they seen me. Everything is up, man. I'm going to have a good day every day. That's why you're going to see me outside every day doing something. And when people look at it like, damn, they think you out just partying, girl. No, outside, man, it's a mentality. I'm not sitting around being in a confined area. I'm not being in a space to where I got to do what everybody else traditionally doing. I'm doing whatever I feel like doing that day. You know, and I ain't doing nothing illegal. I ain't doing nothing to hurt nobody. But I'm going to have some fun.

And I'm going to get all the toys, everything to have fun every day. I'm going to take it back to the field. What was you listening to in the warm-ups to get you prepared for the game? I had a strong playlist,

but Trick Daddy was down south. 305. You know, Trick Daddy had this one song I used to listen to every... Nah, it was Bought My Money.

He got a song that I think his hardest song to me is Bought My Money. And that about my money. He got a song, I think his hardest song to me is about my money. And that was my mentality. You know, I always listen to a lot of Jay-Z. There we go now. Before the game.

You had to walk me back then, too. They didn't have MP3s. Jay-Z, Tupac, Trick Daddy. My favorite Trick Daddy song is Thug Holiday. You little boy. He's commercial. Trick Daddy um my favorite Trick Daddy song is Thug Holiday man you gotta go listen hey go listen to

Thug Holiday was hard go listen to Bout My Money listen to Bout My Money it's a whole it's like a whole another mentality but that was like

my mentality in the league it was like man look I came here to do what I came here to do because man when you when you able to take care of your mama,

I'm still, to this day, taking care of my mama. I seen you guys talking about my mama. Shout out to my mama. Yeah, like, you don't know how good it feel to barely just, I never told this lady no. That was, she might say some of the most weird shit to go get. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

All I say, okay, give me some time. I'll get it. Like, so I take pride in not saying no to my mama. You know what I'm saying? And football afforded me that. You know, so I got to respect the game. I got to appreciate the game. But when you look at it and you say, man, dang, that's a long run.

You know, but I told her like, hey, everything you want, you're going to get. You know, you're going to get. You're going to get it. And if I ain't got it right now, man, I'm back on the plane, hitting all the spots. I'm going to do whatever it takes, and I'm going to come home. Anytime I leave home, man, I leave home with a certain amount, and I'm going to come back with more. That's always been my mentality.

Like, if I leave, I got to come back with more. I ain't coming back till I come back with more. So once you start getting those mentalities or once you start getting that mindset, you know, things change, you know, your perspective change. And you're like, man, look, my mama ain't going to never have to ask nobody for nothing, you know? And I got brothers, I got everybody else. Nobody for nothing. You know? And I got brothers. I got everybody else.

Man, y'all just sit back. I got this. You know? And so, that's what I'm going to do every time. And I'm going to stay hustling. I'm going to stay moving regardless of whatever.

They be like, man, you done made this. You need to relax. Like, I'm relaxing when I'm hustling. Like, that's therapy to me. You know what I'm saying? Hustling is therapy.

You listen to Jay-Z for sure. That's what I'm saying. What's your favorite Jay-Z song? Oh, I got a lot of them, man. Imaginary Player is favorite Jay-Z song? I got a lot of them, man. Imaginary Players is top tier. You got a lot of them. Yeah, Jay-Z got them. But I respect what you're saying about your mom.

I'm a little different. I got to tell my mama no. Nah. What? No, you got to think. First of all, your mom's wants they decrease oh no not my mom

you know they gonna decrease no no they did they did they decrease as you get because like they start like things don't

they don't value those things nah my mama just like the stunt for the church oh well that's a different that's a pilgrim my mama like show up at friendship don't she

show up to mama T fifth row in the middle. Nah, man. I'm like, man, I got to say yeah, man. Because like, it's too easy. It's like, how you can go to the club and spend $10,000, $20,000, $30,000? Don't say that because she going to be on me. You know what she told me yesterday?

Her birthday coming up. She got a celebration coming up. And she like, you would take your friends to Miami and spend $20,000? But if I say... Real trip daddy. Oh, he know where you're going. That's where you're going.

He's coming out. He's coming out. He's waking up. The boy waking up. But no, I just have to do it because I just don't... I don't feel right

knowing that, man, this person got my back. And if you play sports or you deal with people, you're going to see so many people turn on you. You're going to see so many people disagree and go in the other direction and wish they can show you up.

But then you're going to have that few that are going to stand down. And it's like, there's no way. If I can make it happen, I'm going to make it happen. That boy love his mama. Anything my mama asks for, I get it. She's going to start asking my brother, too.

He made it to the NBA. She got two kids. She's going to get a double dip. You're going to have to start dipping a little more that way. He said, use that other phone number. Call that other 317. Shout, call that other 317. I'm on every time. Shout out to the Moogster.

Yeah. Nah, she can have it. Nah, Moog, you played it right. Send her to Jeff. Yeah, nah, she can have whatever she want. It's all good. Man, it's actually cool.

It's like a challenge, man. Like, me, I'm like, man, I want to see the day that I have to say no. I don't even know if that, I mean, first of all, it ain't going to happen. As long as I'm able to get out here and hustle and make something happen, I'd never be able to say no. But don't even know if that, I mean, first of all, it ain't going to happen. As long as I'm

able to get out here and hustle and make something happen, I'd never be able to say no. But I love the challenge. I like the challenge of life because once you get in this position, man, everything is green. You can do whatever you want to do. I got enough money to take care of myself forever. I'm not a person that want all this and want all that. I just like to live good, have fun, make sure everybody's straight. And so, it's a game to me.

You know, I love the game. I love to sit up there and say, okay, let me go make some money. You know, I might have a-

You sound like Mitch. Yeah, yeah. I love the hustle, man. I love, man, I'm telling you, like, you know, man, sometimes I push up

and the dude be thinking he can just shoot me in basketball. You know what I'm saying? Like, I be like, man, I'm talking up and a dude be thinking he can just shoot me in basketball. You know what I'm saying? I be like, man, I'm talking about. And it be small money, too. But you see how hard I grind for that little money? That little money.

That little money. He was shooting for hours. For hours for that little money. Now, imagine what I do for the big money. He go crazy. I don't know if y'all ever get this footage, but these two over here, y'all got to talk about it.

Before we get up out of here, y'all got to talk about that. We ain't going to knock the hustle. We ain't going to unreal the hustle. Man, the losers get the best interviews, man. So, no. I'm proud of you. Shout out to...

So, I'm just solo camera. No, no, no. Shout out to the first finesse two times. This is goddamn... I put that Tito's on him. Hey, Tito's, we on the volume. Cut my mans a check. We ain't playing no more.

I'm telling you, man, I'm going to have to change my vodka, man. Tito's don't take care of me. Tito's, y'all playing fire. Y'all going to see this, too, because we tagging y'all. Hey, I had other vodka companies reach out. They was like, man, you always talking about you on that Tito's. I'm like, hey, step up. Your last chance.

That motherfucker Tito's had him hooping like he was on space jail. He fell for it. I was like, hey, but you're going to see the footage. Main man, I went to main man in the camera. I said, main man, they always fall for this. Aw. Shout out to main man.

That's my little nigga. Shout out to main man for sure. He got his own footage. Yeah, I got my own footage. He do. He called. I told you they called. And you got to remember, Deion Sanders teaches you a real good lesson.

You better keep some receipts because you don't. Yeah, that's a fact. Them people going to sit up there and blast you. They tried to blast Prime. Prime went right in the archives. Oh, he did. Yeah, he did.

Man, look. I always need them receipts. Yep. I always keep them receipts. We appreciate you coming through again, though, bro. For sure. Thank you so much, man, he did. Man, look. I always need them receipts. Yep. I always keep them receipts. We appreciate you coming through again, though, bro. For sure. Thank you so much, man. For sure.

Real love in the city. If y'all act right, y'all might see that footage, you know what I'm saying? Be here. And Edge out here on the court going crazy. No, I know. They might. These niggas call me. I just saw he call me laughing on the phone.

Like, they dropping that footage. It's going to be some footage, man. Y'all got the footage? Yeah. They is dropping that footage for sure. I lost two. I'm keeping it big. I was shooting from half court. I had to go against the NBA play. You got T money too?

Nah, nah, nah. T was trying to get him back. T was trying to get back for him. T kind of finessed me too, but we'll talk about that off camera too. Also. I didn't quit. And it was, we had a,

me and you had a final bet that I didn't quit. Nah, I was still playing. I'm still playing too. Nah, we not doing this tonight. The court right there turned the lights off. I was still playing.

I had a final loss. That was left on the table. Shut up. Hey, endurance. Pause. It's crazy. It's crazy. I'm telling you, we outside all night, man.

Like, hey. It's crazy. And look, hey. Man, he get tired. You know, hey, you care about the little outfit you got on? You care about the little outfit you got on? I don't care about mine. Okay.

Turn the lights off. I ain't scared of them, no. I ain't worried about them, no. I ain't scared of him. No, I ain't worried about him. I ain't scared. I'm with you. Hey, shooting for three and a half hours, man. I ain't scared of the episode. We got shit to do.

I done scared this man. You ain't scared of me. I ain't scared. I ain't worried. If they say, hey, you want to go shoot against Edge, he going to find every excuse in the book to duck that. No, I'm not. I really...

Because if I ask him right now, you want to turn them lights on? Watch what he's going to say. I really got something to do tonight. Nah, real shit, I really do got something to do tonight. Man, push him out, man. I'm going to let you have the full on camera. What you going to make where you going? I ain't going to make nothing where I'm going.

That's real shit. Nah, that's real shit. Let's go $100 shot right now. I got to go. I got to put him I got to go. See, I got him. I got to wear a horn. See, I put him in the chokehold now. I got to go.

I got to go. I ain't going to lie. Oh yeah, the volume. Kick him a little bit more because I'm about to get some of that. I ain't going to lie. Edge might be the best shooter I see that plays football. Don't tell nobody that, man.

Don't. Antonio Gates can shoot too. Yeah, he can. Man, hey, don't throw my that man don't now you gonna throw my action Antonio Gates can shoot too yeah he can man hey don't throw my action man let them be the best man alright

I just followed up in I ain't gonna lie when you hit 32 in a row that one time I'm tired of this shit I gave I'm telling you man but don't

don't give my game up man hey I ain't gonna give you a game up hey man listen y'all been doing this for a long time hey when you started teaching him how to shoot, that started getting ridiculous. Nah, that's crazy.

Yeah, that's when it started getting ridiculous. Yeah, that's when he's out of pocket. Yeah, that's when I was like, all right, hold up. I'm like, all right, this nigga. He's Illuminati or something. Yeah, see. Don't put that on anybody. Nah, what he did was, man, like, he judged me.

See, I do something to people that judge me. That's how it is. Anybody that judge me, man, I'm aimed at you, man. Cause I'm like, look, man, you ain't supposed to judge me, man, give me a chance. Don't look at my first shot. That first shot was crazy. It was nasty.

And it had my mans going crazy. That first shot was crazy. I was like, here's his free money. When I see him come out the sweatsuit and put the Tito's down, I say, okay, my boy getting it for him. Nah, yeah, no. He shits his first five and then all of a sudden he came alive.

I want next time we come, you here forever. But we playing one on one. Oh, okay. We playing one on one. For one on one, I'm gonna tell you, you ain't gonna beat me first of all. I am. I'm putting you in a post. I promise you ain't gonna beat me.

You too small. You 45, it's over the knee shot. But this what I'm telling you. This what I'm telling you. We gonna play. You gonna have to wear some real basketball shoes. Not them Usain Boats. You have to wear some real basketball shoes. Not them Usain Boats.

Now with you- You gonna get some real hooper shoes. You don't pay instantly, so you gotta have your money all paid. You know, you got this little, you got this little delayed thing. You got this little, I gotta go borrow, I gotta go round it up.

I don't know what it is. Yo, we gonna check the real story. It took my man a got to go round it up. I don't know what it is. Yo, we going to check the real story. It took my man a week to pay that little money. Man, man talking about it. If I'm going to play against you. Man, man had a miscommunication. We going to put the first ball. Man, man was here. We putting the money on the wood.

Everybody, everybody, everybody have their business. No, forget what I was going to say. What'd you say? You going to put it on the wood? We going to put the money. Hey, we going to play. We going to put the money on the wood. We going to put a lot of money.

Because I'm only going to play one game. That's fine gonna put it on the wood? And we're gonna play, we're gonna put a lot of money. Cause I'm only gonna play one game. That's fine. No, let's play best out of three. No. Let's play one game. No, you got dope energy. I wanna play for big stadium cause I'm gonna be- One to seven.

I'ma beat you, man. One game to seven, no you're not. I'ma beat you, man. No, you're not. Yo, later on, I see you cross over and pull up. I say, oh, he Christmas. He's a set shooter, Bruce Boyd ass. This man right here. I said, oh, he Christmas. He's a set shooter, Bruce Boyd-ass.

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