Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Derrick Rose on NBA retirement, MVP season with Bulls, scoring 50 with Timberwolves

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 110 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys sit down with Derrick Rose for his first appearance since announcing his retirement from the NBA after his career with the Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks, and more. Jeff and D-Rose talk about playing against each other in AAU basketball as kids, becoming the youngest MVP in NBA history, and being teammates on the Minnesota Timberwolves. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We got a legend legend legend legend in the building class at 07 crazy how it all lined up We're here for a reason we're gonna introduce him last though to my far left. We got my dog Bishop out the prayer lease. How you were nasty? Cool nasty. I'm back baby. Let's get to it Yeah, you got your one PTO day here I appreciate the shot to be swift legend holding it down for 42 Doug my dog Hinn But I'm glad you pulled back up to work my boy. I'm back. I'm back. Let's get to it, baby No, D-Roy, you know I'm saying you've been a lot of places especially, you know saying from the shot those shoes over here You see the black forces with the white laces when you know what I'm saying? I know you've been a lot of places, especially, you know what I'm saying, from the shot. Those shoes over here, you see the black forces with the white laces.

When you, you know what I'm saying, you at the crib and you see those, what's the first thing that come to your mind? For sure you jacking. Jacking something. Watch out, bro. I don't steal, I heal. Hide your wallet.

Hide your wallet. The white laces mean hide your wallet, it's crazy. Nah, fuck. So y'all calling me. I do. I think it's crazy. So you're calling me a scammer. You said you showed it. You always talk about the Nigerian. You might be a little bit of a bastard. To my right, my dog, young nacho, young T. How you are bad. I'm chilling, man.

I'm geek. You know how I feel about seven. And we got my dog in the building It's about to be a great night. I'm gonna let you do the honors and introduce me, but I'm like listen It's very really to everybody we had that one person on our list you name some we started spikers like who we wanted on this Show it was this man right here Legend icon youngest MVP one of the best to do it your favorite hoopers favorite hoop We got D Rose Derek Rose in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, big dog.

Love, man. Love, man. Love the show going, man. Had to pull up, Midwest shit. You know what I'm saying? You know what it is? Hey, listen, like I said, bro, we all be fanning out over different stuff, but when you found out

that you rocked with the show, bro, that meant a lot to us both, for real, for real, bro. Yeah, man. Of course, me, my son, and my team, Rob Randall and Maddie, they told me about it. Shout out to the squad. Of course, right when my son, and my team, Randal and Maddie, they told me about it. Shout out to the squad. Of course, right when the idea came up, I had to pull up, and with it being so close to Chicago.

Yeah, the niggas got you a caterer, bro. Now listen, niggas door dance to beat up. What's up? What's up? Hey, normally, I usually hooter, I usually hooter somebody some, but see. I respect that. to beat up. I usually hooter somebody some. But we was like, we got to be right like Freaky Mike. I told you, boy, you might be catered for this boy.

You're Chef Paul. Shout out to Chef Paul. Y'all went crazy for this episode, man. I got to say something before we really start. But my dog Mike, Mike is our guy behind the scenes. But they know Freaky Mike, the podcast family. He told me, I don't get excited about too many guests, bro. Mike is our guy behind the scenes, but they know Freaky Mike, the podcast family.

He told me, I don't get excited about too many guests, bro. I'm hyped. I said, what? Freaky Mike? And he put on the whole outfit today. He done took his boot off. He put the fresh shoes on. I said, man. I ain't saying he got the DJs on. I told you. No. I told you, but he he got the DJs on. Oh, he wildin'. That's all he's got. Why he so wild? No, no, no.

He wildin'. I'll tell you what he never put on DJs in an episode of Alpha. He wildin'. He wildin'. You different. I respect that. Damn, you need to say that nigga some roses. What the fuck?

What the fuck? No, man, shout out to Freaky Mike for holding it down, man. But listen, man, we are honored that you are here, man. Man, we just gotta start with it. Fuck my hat, it down man. But listen man, we are honored that you are here man. Man we just gotta start with it. Fuck my hat fell over. This is crazy man. I wanna say man, shout out to you and the team man. One of the best roll outs I have ever seen man.

Wow. For real, for real, just the way that you went through everything and we was joking with Tig about this. We were just like, D-Rose such a legend. He the only person who can send another D-Rose and nobody think nothing else of it. Like ain't nobody having questions. Everybody was like, hey what's up with that? Like nah,, nah that's the rose bro. It's a reason for that.

I'm glad it came with a nose. You don't got a lot of motherfuckers in trouble. I was nervous as hell at the crib. So it's crazy because the week before I had bought my wife some roses and put them on there. Yeah. So they died or whatever. So she sent me a picture of them. I'm like, damn, she didn't buy her own road. I was like, I would have gotten it. She was like, full reason. No. I was like, oh. So it was vibe.

It was love, bruh. Me and my team, we decided to like just come up with something different, you know? Like, we did that within like two weeks. Randall and Maddie, N Randall and Maddie, stand up late, going over shit to the day before, stand up to three o'clock in the morning to send out the post, making sure you got your eyes crossed, your T's. But this whole shit was about like just giving back or just flipping everything on his head,

where normally when you do do something like this, you receive the flowers, but I didn't get here by myself. You know what I'm saying? I got here with Randall. I've been knowing him since sixth grade. I've been knowing Matty since for 10 plus years now and my team is the same thing. It's sixth grade and that's something that we built. We're building an empire right now, but just doing it the right way, trying to do it with class and just showing a lot of love and support to all the fans. No, that's not an accident. We definitely appreciate that.

I know. So, you know, for you, you can speak on this, you know what I'm saying? Class of 07, you know, say careers. You know, this time, how was that like that moment? You saw, you know, I'm going to see what the other side might be for a second. See, my retirement was a little different. It was kind of because of injury, but I just knew it was my time was up. I wanted to ask you, like,

when did you know you were done playing? Like, what made you feel like, yeah, I'ma hang it up? Cause I feel like to me watching you, annoying you, I'm like, man, he could play forever. I just think you had that ability. I just wonder like, what made you want to hang it up? Bruh, I've been thinking about it for a while, but what I was just telling you in the room or telling you all in the room about like,

like, give me your all to your kid, like my younger kids, they don't mention the game at all. They don't say they don't ask about are we going to the game? They don't say nothing, bro. So with PJ, I had to talk to him a little bit different. So before I even talked to everybody, we in the room, it's me and him just talking. And before then, I'm thinking the whole time, I damn well know my other conversation with him, right? So we talk and he brings up Kayan and we was just in the room talking about Melo.

So I'm like, all right, it's time. I'm like, come downstairs. He come downstairs. I'm like, bro, how do you think he got better? He was like, he working out with the trainer. I'm like, who else in the gym? He's his dad, like his dad, huh? His dad president. I'm like, you think Melo don't got nothing to do with that?

He was like, yeah. But after I kept talking, at first when I told him, of course devastated, hurt, but after I kept talking to him, he was excited because he seemed like, man, now I get this individual time with my dad and like my son, he know exactly where he's at right now.

Like this moment, he knows exactly where he's at. So for me to tell him that and for him to be like sad at first, then be excited. And since that day has been unbeloved, but I knew right. Like sometimes since since like last year, I'm going through it. You know, you go through the rehabs. You're the only one that's going through that shit, bro. Like nobody else, your family members, nobody else's staff. You're nobody going through it with you.

So I'm like, man, you have the question of like, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, like I'm saying, like, give them all like, it's cool, but I want to be able to elevate to show growth. And that's one of the reasons why I came on here, because I wanted to like tell my stories and to be able to articulate myself and show people the growth from when I first came to the league to now with me being a grown ass man. Real, bro. Facts. And like you said, like that influence, especially at this age, it's so impressionable

with kids growing up so fast, me exposing so much. And we were talking like in the room, but you know what I'm saying, shout out to Pop T, like having y'all in the gym early on, having like you said, it does make a difference. No, facts. It sucks. But I wanted to make sure that we clarified

that like you decided to retire, not that anything else like situation with Memphis, if you want to speak on it. Yeah, I mean, with even with that, I really didn't want to speak on it, but people thought that like they weighed me. That's just a process of them trying to, I guess, do business or figure out the numbers on the back end in which that has nothing to do with me. But what I can control is what I did. I reached out to Zach prior.

I reached out to my team, reached out to everyone prior and told them, reached out to Adidas so that everybody's on the same accord and yeah, just doing good business. That's something that I always did throughout my whole career. Even though I fucked up in the beginning by having some lessons I had to learn. I got through that and I'm always been optimistic, bro. As long as I got my breath, bro, I'm always going to give my I know I got a chance. And I feel like that way about anybody around me. is going to get my I know I got a chance and I feel like that way about anybody around me. So like,

yeah, give them all and you know, just paying attention to where I'm at in this time. For sure. Now listen, we're gonna talk about the career we got to talk about the first time y'all met. You know what I'm saying? We gotta talk about that. I'll be waiting for this. I'll be waiting for this. He's going like 30. A quick 30. Man, I would listen. First time I met him, right? This is before I was even like getting 30. Because I did kill him.

Don't worry about it. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. I'm going to get to that. But I seen him in eighth grade. Going to eighth grade. He played for a team called Ferrari. And it was a team called Houston Hoops.

We in a gas station. And they like, you good. But as they just talking to us, like, he nice, you nice. This dude nice. But you ever seen Derrick Ross? I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him.

I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him. I've seen him. team called Houston Hoops. We in a gas station and they like, you good. But as they just talking to us, like he not you nice. I'm all this dude nice. But you ever seen their growth? I'm like, who that? And your name, like your name sound fake. Like there grows like you don't hear nobody last night. Rose, like instead of Jalen Rose, I was like, he called like they calling D Rose.

He called. So we go to the game. Y'all happen to be playing a team from Memphis. It was this Memphis Magic, boom. You remember that, right? Yeah, Memphis Magic. That's crazy, I remember that, I do. And I'm like, they threw the first play, they threw you a lob and you ain't dunking,

you just finger rolled it in. And I said, oh shit, nah, ain't nobody else doing that. And they had one dude, they might have beat y'all. They did. Yeah, I'm about to say they might have beat y'all. They had one dude that was cooking, I can't remember his name. Oh, he went to Georgia.

Georgia Tech. I forgot his name. Mo Miller. Yeah, Mo. There you go. Yes. He had a good game. He had a good game, but I'll never forget.

I was like, yeah, that nigga different. Like this nigga killin', but that nigga movin' faster, jumpin' higher than everybody. My dad was like, we gonna be readin' about him. Yup, you know how my dad is, yup. We ain't gonna be readin' about him. He ain't supposed to be on this team. He, I was like, man, he older.

This nigga younger than me. Then that nigga reclass. That nigga out the reclass. I was like, this nigga younger than me. I'm like, what the fuck? They like, yo, you a couple months older than him. What the fuck? Happy belated too, my boy. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. We're about Mike, bro. And USA, we played 16 or 17 USA. Yeah, he my roommate. His he I had to look at his ID. His ID was on the table, right? He left the room. I'm like, he's so good, brother.

I got to see if you're real. I looked at his ID, bro. He was young. Who might be? So he got told that he was younger than us, but in coal, bro. He was young. My who might be. He younger than us. Cole. You this cold.

How to my face. Keep your head up. Facts. That's what I first met. He played for far. Not met him. But that's first on my scene. Yeah. But my first time I played against you. So we had a tone sticking you, you had Braves then.

You had Braves. Oh shit, shit going on. And Tone, our coach, Tone, the guy that was sticking you, his dad was the coach, and he would not get Tone off of him. So we like, bro, this whole game, Jeff went on out, bro. Hitting three, step back, T game, Jeff, when I'm out for a hit and three step back tone, lateral movement fucked up, you can't see shit. Check out all that, bro.

About the end. Did we beat you up? Yeah, we end up beating them, but he had a great game. And I'm like, I got to watch the road. But in our class, when you ran up against niggas like that, you knew like, it challenged you in a way, though, brother, when like I was when we were talking in the room about OJ. Yes, sir. When I see him for the first time, brother, that he changed my whole perspective of the game and like made me feel like I wasn't working hard enough.

And my whole chase for the shit was like chasing him. So yeah, oh nigga, you put that battery in my back for sure. Nah, that's crazy. Shots of juice. Juice for sure. Nah, that nigga was different. I'll never forget when y'all got to, because we went to ABCD that year or last year

and you had got hurt. But the match, I don't forget shit. I don't forget shit. I don't forget shit. The matchup was y'all. But I'm from Indiana, so I know, I seen you. I'm like, oh, they don't know this nigga about to kill that nigga. So I'm like rooting.

It's like, I don't know why I'm rooting for you, but I'm rooting for you. Like, kill him. And you get hurt. So everybody like, oh, he hurt, he scared, he scared. Then I see y'all in Vegas. I'm like, yeah, that nigga ain't scared. But that nigga's trippin'.

And they was going at it, bro. They was having a game. It was one of the best games I've seen. Him and Eric against OJ and Bill. That shit was crazy. We chased him, bro. We used to go to tournaments looking for him. Like, really chased OJ, my nigga.

That could be a whole chapter of my shit. Chasing him, going to tournaments, staying in the game. But it's real. It's us too. But our coaches on bullshit too. So yeah, we hit. But we hit. We were on the same shit. I'm quiet, of course. I'm in the cut. But I'm on that too, nigga. Like, like we we wanted that matchup, especially since we played them like in seven or eight. And he he was on a whole another level.

And I never forgot that. Like, that's my baseline right there. Like, yeah, like I I went back to shot. I stayed in the gym, my nigga. And I think my junior year we was close to playing them. But that Tyreek and all them was it was in some tournament and the shit end up Like not happening and that Vegas one that we and we had EJ. I'm like, oh, come on I was playing nobody else that was really like a

D1 player at that time on my team like that so he had three or four guys but to like play against in Vegas on that stage and to know that everybody like the alarms and shit was going. That shit was nuts. This shit was crazy. Yeah. And he said we talk about we was talking about 07, him and EJ like that's the craziest back where we played them. How'd you feel about him joining the team with you? Like I love my niggas but How did you feel about him joining the team? Would you like, I love my niggas, but finally. We played, I played on the team full of winners, bro. We won, even though we was undersized and all that, we won a lot of games.

So when we got him, they like, hell yeah. Like, we got another dude that can go. And EJ, we needed that because I was scoring my brother in high school, I played more organized shit. I was playing a three, like my freshman year. So I don't really have a ball in my hands because my man right there, Ran, he was the point.

That Ran push you to the three? Yeah. Yeah, Ran, you had juice, my nigga. He had these ropes and small footwork. Nah, that thing had a hoop too. Oh no, no. He had these ropes and small footwork. That nigga could hoop too. I don't know. We had like a system. So like even when I came in, I played JV

because the head coach was like, nah, like you gonna listen, you gonna abide by the rules. You ain't bigger than the system. And I went to the school only because Rampanoid went there. So I'm like, all right, but we won. And I fucked around with the nigga. So I'm like, I like, but we won and I fucked around with the niggas. I'm like, I this like is love. We went in and we low key. We have beach of RC niggas anyway.

If you put the movies to practice and shit, that's how we felt. So it was all love. But the system was the big man get majority of the shots and everybody else find whatever they got to do. Like find your way throughout the game. And so like my my brother started coaching and he like, man, I'm gonna put you at the point. That was like my sophomore, junior year put me at the point. I started going back to school and they started to like, let me play with the ball a little bit more.

So I'm like, I I'm running up the court. They got the plan, the system, knowing I'm getting lives and all that. Now I'm pushing the point and everybody else following me. So it opened up my game for real. But at that school, it was strictly just. But I fucked with it, though, because Simeon groomed me and to all of the guys that went there,

groomed this into like really being young man, learning, like discipline, learning that you just can't fuck off, even though we were like knuckleheads and all that shit. But like knowing that man, we have a we have a bond that's bigger than just this basketball shit. And that's something that we hold on to this day. We have picnics to this day at our school and that's rare for like a public school to still be having picnics going on and all that shit. What made you choose 25 to send me on? Ben Wilson. I didn't choose it. All this shit chose me, bruh.

That's my everything that I've ever been in. I lived in the unknown my whole life. All this shit just came to me. I never wanted none of this. No fame, none of that. Even hooping my career or my basketball dream. I didn't know about salaries and none of that until like my my sophomore year it clicked. Like that may sound crazy.

Think about that. Your sophomore year, it clicked like, damn, I could change my family life with this. All the way until, sophomore year, you click like, damn, I could change my family life with this all the way until my sophomore year. I had just a pure love for the game. I didn't look at niggas salaries. I didn't look at NBA games like that. I look at outside. I'm a hoop and I'm somewhere playing because I had a pure love sophomore year here. I'm like, damn, I'm sitting in the room. I'm arguing with my mom at the time and all that, you know, God, mom got that little shit in high school, you look for independent, like, I'm arguing with her, then it clicked, like, man, I could change this shit if I go to the league early.

I'm looking at KD now. I'm like, if KD leave, I'm gone. They changed the rule. Yeah. Changed the rule. That counter-rule. Yup, changed the rule. Yeah change the rule Change the rules. So I'm like damn I gotta do a year

Have to do the year, but I was I pay attention to none of that shit until my sophomore year I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Granckowski. Guess what folks? We're teammates again and we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.

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Look, yeah I mean that's that's one that uh that's the only thing I care about. Even the wave or the vibration I'm in right now, like I call it DZ 720. Like DZ Stanford, don't forget about the zealous youth and zealous mean pursuit of a great cause or great energy. So don't forget about the use and pursuit of a great cause. So like giving back. And I feel like that was a great cause. So like getting back. And I feel like that was one of our ways of like getting back. You know, like, like, like me and my team, not only my team, but the fans, because at that time, I'm I'm doing this shit, but I'm not knowing why I'm creating.

Yeah. You know, I'm saying I'm I'm not going out to clubs. I'm not going to dinners. I'm not doing your typical shit because I'm thinking that you like you have to be a machine. I enjoy none of that, but until like my fourth year. So that rule was not only for me, it's for everybody. My next. I'm saying like. Here's like before the viewers, could you explain that rule for him?

So I know, you know, saying some of our lazy followers who didn't pay attention to that rule. You know what I'm saying? The rule is that you get 30 percent of the cup, meaning that you get an extra 30 to 40 million if you hit the benchmarks that's in your rookie year contract. So all star team, any award going to the All-Star game. Those benchmarks will give you 30% more than a cup. And yeah, at that time I know what I was doing, but I'm very grateful and very, very thankful

that like the league allowed me to do that. Thanks. Jason Tatum, all them boys, I'm first team on, they thank you for the show. I love Mello by everybody. I see Jason Tatum told all them boys, I'm first team, they thank you for the show. I'm all about everybody. Yeah, I see Jason. Jason Tatum told me that straight up. Fuck with D-Rose forever. You remember he, you remember I told him, I'm like, bro, he want an artigraphe.

He want a jerk, bro. He was real like, bro, D-Rose the greatest, bro. I was like, not to jump too far here, we still got to talk about the rest of his high school and stuff. But like when people would see him, when he was on a team together, bro, I used to tell him, like, bro, you have a cult following. This shit is crazy. Like, and he would come out and he's so humble and chill. And I just joke all day. I play too much. I play too much.

I'll be like, yo, like, y'all want my autograph and shit? They'll just be like, who the fuck? So the first time we get back to the hoop and stuff, but the first time I knew like, all right, I'm messing with a different type of like status. Everybody asked you to go out in Miami. Uh, we went out, you was, it was, we was in Minnesota. I begged you. We in Miami, I begged you to go out.

I'm like, come on man, you was on, you know how you step on the back of your shoes and shit. So you was standing on the back of your shoes, you like, man, nah, I can't go, bro. I'm like, nah, man, come on, man, please, please, man, come on, let's go be cool, ain't nobody go, man, we gonna cover you up or anything. You like, nah, it ain't even that, bro,

I'm just telling y'all, I don't really like going out. Finally, you got tired, and you like, all right, I'ma go. We like, no, it ain't even that, bro. I'm just telling y'all I don't really like going out. Finally, you got tired of me. He's like, all right, I'm gonna go. We walk in there. We walk in the club. We walking in the beginning part. And somebody said, D-Rose? I said, shit.

I swear to God, like 200 people came. I said, oh, shit. I looked at wig. I said, it's some shit. We'll get this guy a little nigga. Hold on. We get in the club. And the dude was like, damn, we just going to put you back here.

They just started standing outside the section. He looked at me. He was like, I'm a go. We even had a motherfucker 10 minutes. I'm just going to go. My father. So imagine that Brian won't like this. It's weird even doing like doing this. So like putting myself in like weird quagmire situations, you feel what I'm saying? Yeah.

Normally, I typically wouldn't I wouldn't pod and nothing like that. But I fuck with y'all shit and in order to grow, you got to put yourself in those uncomfortable situations. So like, coming here or even talking like y'all don't know how much this means to me. You know what I'm saying? I love bro. or even talking, like y'all don't know how much this means to me, you know what I'm saying? Like being able to come in and express this shit and express like just how I feel about where I'm at at this time. So I appreciate y'all niggas. Nah, I appreciate y'all. Bro, we're honored to have you here, bye. Honored to have you here.

I always use, anytime somebody playing the Pacers, you know, this is a little off the radar. Oh, duh. And I be here niggas with the Ruby Rose, the Jalen Rose, the Rose your bitch use, whoever it for. So I got a Rose robot. JT, if you want it bro? I'm too good. Hey, it's all wrong.

That's it. Thank you, man. It was bad. Listen, like I said, we got so much to talk about, but I want to bring back to y'all days as teammates, man. Obviously, I played Gordy. You get each other growing up. How was that first time you looked up in Minnesota, man? It was love, bro. Let me talk to you. This your show, man. We talk all the time. Because, bro, everybody that probably

met Jeff, no bullshit. They just know that he a good dude. And his energy that he bring to the locker room is, uh, you can't compare it to nobody, bro. Like, he, uh, the vibration he bring, he's always talking shit, even though it may rub people different that didn't grow up that way.

Niggas that grew up that way. You need that in the locker room. You need motherfuckers joking plan. But when it's time to go, he was always ready. And I know you can hoop to those. So just having them around, having tears, fuck with them, having to cat. He used to fuck with cats so much.

But all this shit that you were saying, motherfuckers needed to hear. You were saying truthful shit. You know what I'm saying? And when motherfuckers were scared to say it, I'm new to the team. So I'm just trying to get the vibe on the team. You saying exactly what motherfuckers needed to hear and people respected that. So it was always love just having Jeff around. It surprised me, too, when, like, you start coming over to the crib

because, you know, niggas normally don't hang out with each other like, yeah, it's like on some fake shit. So like having you start coming over and you came over the night that I don't believe in coincidences either. You came over the night that, I don't believe in coincidences either, you came over the night that I had 50 and my brother's known as that. My brother was in the kitchen drinking that shit. Nah.

I mean, I don't know if y'all wanna talk about that right now. I'm probably still gotta, yeah, I was in tears, fuck you. He said, I was talking to your team. He was like, I knew you could do it, B. I knew you could do it, baby. I didn't even do it. It's crazy.

I knew you had a problem. Why you on that with me, bro? I remember all that shit. Why you on that with me? I remember it too, baby. I can't as well. Why you on that with me, bro? Nah, but that's a little later in the story because you still got so many years

because he gave me a chance. I played against him and I kind of, I'm gonna speak on the Minnesota moment, but I want to talk about the Bulls moment. For sure. When we played them in the playoffs. Yeah. And he spared me.

So before we get to the 50, I'm gonna tell you when he could have had 50 and I another time. Oh, you talking about. In the playoffs, Mother's Day. And him in the first, I'm gonna tell you when he could have had 50 and I another time. Oh, you told me in the playoffs Mother's Day And he'll win the first I remember good bro. We having a first quarter. We going back and forth. It's a duel Yeah, i'm like in my head. I'm out here dueling with the mvp. What the fuck? But i'm talking shit. It's the first game in Atlanta. So i'm like, yeah motherfucker And he like he ain't saying nothing. He just like, looking at me like,

I'm guarding, he go by, he dunk one time. I said, oh shit. Crowd go, ooh. I'm like, damn, Atlanta, y'all on the trip with me. Like, what the fuck? Going back and forth, second quarter, we had like 13, 14, second quarter, I think I scored two points.

He scored like another nine. I'm like, damn. Go to the locker room. I'm like, Jamal, you can switch off on him. Jamal was like, hell no. You keep going. You're doing good, man. He's like, hey, you guarding him good.

I'm like, this motherfucker out there, they're 30. He's like, don't worry about it. Keep going, you're playing good. Get to the third quarter. I'm looking like, man, I ain't scoring no more. This motherfucker still going. They starting to blow us out. He gets what you had, like 44?

Yeah, 44, yeah. So it's like, what was it, like five, six minutes left in the fourth. That's a fair. I'm all set to say I know. I mean, I'll let you get a nigga looked at. I'll never forget. I'm like I had like 21. I'm like looking at it. I'm still trying to guard him hard. And you know how a nigga kind of like relax, like not tell you relax,

but kind of like it's over, bro. The nigga kind of like. Come get me tips. I said, aw, fuck him. I look at the scoreboard, I said, he ain't wanna get 50. Aw, fuck that was tips. I said, game four is up. No, fuck that, I was so mad.

I said, he spared me? That was like, I went to the locker room, and Smooth was like, man, you know, it's just one game, dog. I was like, nah, man, he damn near had 50. He was like, nigga, you think you can stop him? Nigga, you didn't even play this year. I was like, you only play because the nigga got hurt. Like, you did good, nigga, shut up.

I'm like, you right. Shout out to J.Smooth. That was a tough ass series. It was, but you spared me. Why you spared me? I didn't spare you, bruh. You know, at that time, I wasn't know at that time I wasn't even thinking about. I won't be thinking about scoring like that.

I'll be really in the game, bro. Like every because my mindset was if I didn't score, we was going to fall back. So I wasn't even keeping up with the numbers like that when I was playing. I just knew I had to affect the game in a positive way. This one, I really was like, fuck you. You hit a floater, right? I contested this shit out this motherfucker.

I was playing hard as hell. Y'all know I don't play defense. I'm playing hard as hell. I'm like, he can't embarrass me. He hit a floater, threw it up and caught that bitch. I said. Hold on, he caught it out the net. He caught it out the net.

The waist. I said, I saw he playing around. It's just funny to hear him. I'm a joke. He getting ready for Miami. OK. Cool, cool. I was hot.

I was 38 hot. My brother like, bro, you getting your chance. All good. You ain't playing bad? I'm like, bro, he embarrassing me, bro. Bro, he embarrassed everybody. He the MVP. Then I thought about it. I was like you right, I'm good.

I'm just trying to score, fuck this. Nah, but I remember that. That helped your career too though bro. Yeah, having a chance to compete against him bro, it helped me a lot, like just to even have some good moments against him at that time, it helped my career. But I took that to say, I seen you, could've got 50, then I seen you, get 50. It's crazy. So that's where I was going with him, I'm like damn, I seen you could have got 50, then I seen you get 50.

So that's where I was going. But I'm like, damn, I seen what he could have had 50. I was a part of that. And then to be a part of that moment to see you actually get 50. And for you to say, yeah, I'm going for it tonight. I'll never forget. You said, Tig, you playing tonight? I was like, nah, I ain't fucking with it. He said, oh, bet I'm going for it. I said, what you going for? I was like, what you going for? He's like, nah, I ain't fucking with it. He said, oh, bet, I'm going for it. I said, what you going for? I started, I was like, what you going for? He's like, nah, I'm going for it. I was like, what?

He's like, I'm getting it, I'm getting 50. That's crazy. I said, damn. I went to Josh Chakot, he said, Tarek said, you getting 50 tonight. He's like, I'm out there. Jumbo one play? Yeah, nobody's playing.

And I was like, damn, he gonna get 50? And you know, Rudy go bird nil, defensive player of the year, all that shit. I was like, damn, he gonna get 50. And you know, Rudy go bird now, defensive player of the year, all that shit. I'm like, whoo, he gonna have to kill these niggas. Yeah. Man, that first quarter, mind you, I hurt my ankle. I'm jumping up and down.

Ryan, I never forget Ryan was like, you can play. Don't worry about that shit. Don't worry about this shit. This one's killing. And he just started going crazy in the whole game. Like, we just watching and I'm just like, this dude is amazing. And it was like, you know, me playing before you got hurt and stuff. I'm like, this, I, this is him.

Like, he always got this. And to see him going crazy, then you hit Rudy with the move, finished the leg, then it started getting emotional. Like, nigga, everybody on the team just like, damn, bro, he worked so hard. And I'm like, yeah, fuck that, we about to win the game. Then he got emotional. And then I'm looking at the nigga,

cause I know, I'm like, I fuck with this nigga every day. I'm like, no, this means some shit. Like I start, fuck man, I'm a nigga, bro. I'm from the west side of NAP, bro. I ain't about to be crying for no niggas scoring no points They see one fucker that hit me I'm like fuck right by Did the game go over? I'm like shit I'm like it's about to be a party in the locker room Fuck this I'm gonna turn this motherfucker up He do the interview I ain't even hear it

But I remember he was emotional I remember seeing it on TV We're on back there I'm like give me my phone I remember I record that shit he remember seeing it on TV. We're on back there. I'm like, give me my phone. I remember I record that shit. He walked in, they throw the water on it. Then I send it to your girl. Like, this gotta be a moment y'all never forget. Like, that shit was hard. I was like, why that game though, Poole?

Why that game? Like what made you, you know what I mean? I don't know, I just felt something, bruh. Right when he told me he wasn't playing, I seen Jimmy wasn't playing. I'm like, all right. That's what it's just that opportunity. And every, every nigga in the league that's not playing, wish they could have that

opportunity. Everybody, bro. Shit. You look at niggas that's not in the league. You look at IT right now. Just give me that one chance. I could go out there and I could at least shoot 15 or 20 field goals and see what's going to happen. Yeah. Like, once I get rolling, you really going to see what's going to happen.

You know what I'm saying? I just felt like that moment was like just my moment, especially going through everything. Like I went through went through the little shit. I was still going through like injuries. And yeah, like I said, I'm just living in it, bro. Like the shit that be going on, I can't really explain because I'm in it, but all I could do is like prep myself for the moments.

Like when I was in basketball, I was prepping myself for that moment. Now that I'm switching over to this, like my shit gonna be like y'all shit one day, six, seven cameras and you know. You gonna do a pod? No, not a pod, but I'm trying to get into directing, bro. Oh yeah, that shit gonna be better, no?

But directing, telling like real stories about some shit that's in the book. But I mean, y'all will see, that's like everything that y'all saw though, the commercial or whatever, that video, that's me, Maddie, and that's Randall. All of us came together, got that shit together along with Carlisle and Mark, along with the other guys that was a part of the team. But we created that moment.

So, you know, prepping ourselves for something huge. For sure. You know, we're there to support y'all to the team as well. Can I say one thing before we get back to the story? Cause this is my nigga, I'm just hyped. I ain't gonna lie. But I never forget this is when I was like, this nigga different. Like, y'all know me, they know me.

I'm a, no, this is all good, it's good. They know I'm wild. Like, y'all know me, I became a man in Atlanta. So my perspective's a little different. Like, shit, I was going out, my team was going out, everything, so when I came to Indiana, did I get to Minnesota, my mind's still like, man, all right, we had a good practice,

we had some game, we hooked, but like, where we going? You know what I mean? So I remember one night, John Lucas called me. I'm like, I'm thinking Luke called me like, yo, where we at? He called me like, man, you should come in the gym. I'm like, nigga, no. Fuck you talking about going to the gym, man? I was like, bro, I ain't here for all that.

He like, man, you tripping, bro. Come here. I come in there. And he like, he like text me like, D-Rose in here. And I come in, I me like DeRosa here. And I come in, I remember it was your old fam. You had your daughter in the stroller. Your girl sitting on her own stroller and you were shooting and you had shot damn near 500 shots.

And I remember because you had end up hurting your elbow. Yeah. So I'm like, how many shots this nigga shoot? Jay look like he going to be ready. He going to be ready. And I'm like, he gonna be ready. He gonna be ready. And I'm like, and we about to play in a playoff, he about to play at Houston. This one, you first came to the team,

he like, he gonna be ready, don't trip, he gonna be ready. I'm like, well shit, he shoot a fire in the shot, I'm gonna shoot 50 from the three. I said, get him up. So I'm laughing and shit, I'm colder, I'm joking and shit. Then we get in the playoffs and I'm like, I'm going to Tibbs like, man, this nigga gotta play. Like he was having, we get in the game, he kill him.

I'm like, no, no, he gotta, come on, man. He gotta get in the game earlier. Tibbs like, I know. Who do we take out? I'm like, I don't give a fuck. Take him out. He like, how do I tell him? I'm like, nigga, Tibbs is you.

He's like, everybody, you know. then that nigga start saying, fuck it. Come on. Come on. I watched this nigga build. Bro, he was as far as next year. What you saw 40 from 30, 40. But you assisted with that, too, though, right when I got to the team. You probably remember you. Hey, that's you for that bread.

Oh, shit. I knew you had some money to. You ain't understand it though. When you like I. The league ain't nothing but specialists. Right. You facts. So when you are aren't labeled or shoot like that, that shit can last

for like a long time until you beat that shit up. You got to you got to beat that. You know, I'm just allegations. Come on, man. So for motherfuckers that know how to shoot, niggas from Indiana, they know how to shoot when they one years old. Motherfuckers be teaching them they form, they and they crib.

Like, just touch your elbow, all that. All y'all shots the same. Like, I have not one person growing up to tell me my shot, like how to fix my mechanics or show me mechanics for my jump shot. I figured this shit out solely by myself. No basketball camps, couldn't afford it. None of that, man. It's solely me being in the park by myself testing out shit and like all that stick or, you know, after experimenting and that shit stuck. But so to like go to a team and to be cool with a motherfucker, to be in a shooting game with them and don't take it personal if they beat you.

I'm not crazy because I want to take it. Like you know what I'm saying? But it takes to go one on one or to challenge a motherfucker one and to push yourself and practice when you ain't know nothing about it. I'm shooting with you. You don't know that I'm feeling this way at all. Yeah, yeah, I did. You get what I'm saying?

You just walking around shooting, playing, talking to people. I'm trying to make every mother fucker shoot. I'm gonna teach yo ass. I'm gonna show yo ass. I'm gonna show yo ass I'm at 40 this shit. I'm about to stop shooting because I was like, this nigga starting to beat me, man.

What the fuck, are you quit? I'm not even quit shooting because I was like, this nigga's starting to beat me, man. What the fuck? Are you quitting? I'm not quitting, but the challenge, he was taking it light because he playing. He always playing in front of his ears when T.I. All right, all right, but if T.I. ain't on that, he ain't on that. He playing. That's the story of my life. I swear to God, bro.

So like to actually challenge a motherfucker that's a shooter, I took pride in that. Even though you didn't know about this. But now I seen it. Then when the next year, I never forget, I started, like we started starting together at the beginning of the year. And I'm like, I'm going on fast,

I'm darting the ball to him in the corner and he firing. And I'm like, this nigga really a shooter. Like he running the lane, mind you. Like nigga, he the MVP, he great with the ball. Like I should be running the lane nigga. He like get it, get it, get it. Taking off, running to the corner and firing threes and I'm laughing.

I'm like this nigga a shooter. Like what, this nigga spotting up 40, shooting 40 from the three and I'll never forget. I was like nigga you shooting 40. He was like you know he a student of the game. Like, man, you gotta be able to shoot the three man. They paying niggas to shoot the three. And I remember shooting with sweet.

He was like, I remember everything, bro. He was like, I'm a, I'm a shoe 40. He was like, I'm going to get that bag, bro. Then I'm done. Yes, sir. And I was like, nah, you gonna leave? I'm in my head like, he about to leave Minnesota cause I ain't the way he's starting over me.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it for some niggas at the time. Nah, niggas was telling me in the crowd, get him out the gate, put Derek in.

I was like, damn, that's my nigga. Why y'all got to yell at me like that? They did that on R&T, that nigga's fucking up. Why y'all gotta yell at me like that? They did that on R18. That nigga fucked it up. That nigga brought the money. That 44 might be bad. It got so bad, my nigga. I started telling the nigga like, do you want to start? Because this shit is easier, nigga.

I just want to come off the bench, bro. Nigga, check out what I'm doing right off the nigga. What? But I give him credit. Nigga, I'll never forget. He told me like, and then we got to get back to where it started but he told me he was like T you gotta find your niche cuz nigga, you know, we ain't gonna be starters the whole time like coming off the bench They gonna pay they need somebody to kill off the bench. They gonna find a new role and I never he did not want to start

No, I'm about with the tips. I said tips. I am sick of hearing these motherfuckers Will you start him? He was like who I'm gonna start him over. I'm like nigga me You're getting paid. I don't give a fuck. I think I'll play better off the bench. He was like no No, and I was starting together. He was like I could do that who we take out and we start trying to figure it out Whatever, but I just remember when you said that so when when you left, I went to Ryan, I said, I want to come off the bench. Cause I was like, I'm about to do exactly what he did.

I was like, I want to come off the bench. Cause you told me like, bro, we ain't going to be starters for the rest of our career, bro. You got to figure it out. And we about to build these new roads. So I was like, I'm about to take his role. And I started doing everything he did. I started stretching. I ain't do none of that shit. Bone roller roller ball and shit. I'm like that nigga. He figured it out. Fuck that. I'm doing that

Shit did quite work out Yeah, I was broke down now the money car So I had your knee and that was it yeah, I had bad ankles. I had surgery on my ankle. Yeah, but then I had, my patella was gone. I ain't got no, I'm bone on bone now. It's over with. It's over with. And now the ADA ain't worth a quarter, then.

I'm a nigga joke. Hold on, it was gone last year? It was the last year. It was gone my last year in Minnesota. So I was bone on bone, but I was just playing. And then the last piece of my patella tour and when I was in Milwaukee. Oh my God.

It was over with. Nah, that bone on bone, that's something different. It was over with. It was over with once you go there. For sure. You just doing that as Wes, huh? Yeah, I don't know how you doing that. How you doing that, bro?

Yeah, he different, bro. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Shout out to him. Man, listen, you have so many crazy accomplishments, man. We got to speak on some, man. Obviously, we got to start one of the crazy ones. MVP, youngest MVP ever. Having one of the craziest season at the NBA

in a conference where LeBron James was like, how was that season for you? Because obviously, you know what I'm saying? You came in the league going crazy. How crazy was that particular season for you, bro? It was a blur. It was a blur. It was a blur. I remember at that time, my whole mindset was like, keep it moving.

So, you know, in hindsight, you always wish that you would cherish some of the days a little bit more like me looking in the past and shit. But what I was telling you all at that time, I didn't enjoy anything. I didn't go out to eat with my family or friends like that. No movies like that. None of that, bro. No concerts because I was totally locked in to thinking that I had to follow what like Kobe was doing.

I think in cold bars, not enjoying themselves, not going on vacays, not doing any of that. So I felt tricked like in a way whenever I at the time I felt that way, like my fourth year I ended up going to the Philippines with him. I saw him like relaxed. I'm like, oh, you motherfucker was tricking me this whole time. I dedicated three years, three years of thinking you didn't do shit,

bro. And to see you actually out here just chilling, like it kind of fucked me up, but like I couldn't take it personally because he didn't even know I was like admiring him like that. So that year, it was just fun. Something that you can't explain. that you can't explain. Like my being in shot at the number one and then the point guard of the team.

Like you got the rock in your hand and you got your guys. I got my guys like been around since sixth grade on the baseline. Yeah, talking or you know, I'm saying something the whole time. Like that's something that, yeah, we, but we did it right though. Me and Facts made sure that the ups and downs that we had in Chicago, no matter what it was, we could go back there and still like do business or whatever it is with them.

So it was a blast though, bro. For sure, man. Both of y'all can speak to this being, you know what I'm saying? The point guard, the man in your city playing for your hometown, they're like, what's that feeling like? Like we talk about it, but what's that feeling growing up in Chicago? Like, all right, I saw MJ hit us now.

They look at me like that. It's pressure. That's why it's a lot of pressure. I can imagine. And I'm I got to talk for Chicago because a lot of people, when they talk about Chicago, they always mention like the bad shit. So I got to mix it up. MJ wouldn't be MJ if he was if he played anywhere else but Chicago for his pro career. He would have been a great player anywhere else. But in Chicago, he became the black cat. He became MJ in Chicago, he became the Black Cat.

He became MJ in Chicago. Just off the strength of the culture that's in Chicago and its coaches everywhere, like with the basketball culture is just strong. And that the expectation of like, all right, what you gonna do? We seen you, we seen niggas like you back in the 60s. Are you supposed to been like elevated the game or doing something different? Like, what's next?

MJ won them three. I guarantee you he had people in this corner like, there's no way they gonna let you win. Yeah, you just went on vacay, nigga. You ain't finna let you come back and win three more. I bet you can't. That's what niggas in win three more. I bet you can't. That's what niggas in shot telling them. Bet you can't.

That's also the wrong one. Yeah, I bet you he, what? I'm gonna win one, I bet you can't win another one. But tell them guys, look, I'm gigging them up. I bet you can't win another one. Oh, that's Chicago shit. Oh, hell yeah. That's how he did that little thing.

Yeah, gigging them up just off the strength, but that's what I meant by the culture, though. Like, yeah, being there. That's what I felt. Even though people, my guys never came up to me and was like, man, you got to kill this motherfucker, this game. I felt it, though. They had to say nothing. They say little shit. They are being in the kitchen or some.

Man, what's your car? What's called throwing the party tonight? Not saying it to me, but they just talking, but making sure that I hear like what you going, what for going out? I don't even for they play me. I was that nigga. I'm going out. No wonder this nigga trying to kill me. They probably saw you.

I'm listening to even though they ain't bringing it to me, they they stating it so that I just could hear it. I'm like, all right though they ain't bringing it to me, they be they stating it so that I just could hear it. I'm like, so is this nigga fuck? Right. The reason they put 40 of you. But everybody always speaking on like you being the hardest person that they had to go or like who was your person like that you was like damn. Was crazy. Chillin, but I got to sleep with him.

like damn, I'm chilling, but I got to sleep for him. I had a problem down there with everybody, especially in Tib's system, defensive system, where like at that time we icing everything. If one person go over the top in basketball terms, he beat you and over the top of the pick and roll and like now you're chasing him behind him and shit.. If that happened, he only like it was just hard, but. I'm a pure point, so I hate point guards that feel like they about to control the whole game.

So scoring, if you scoring, I don't care about scoring like that. Even though like the NBA forced me to score, I never was the leading score on any of my elementary. Probably was the leading scorer, but high school, somebody else was college, CDL was. So I never was the leading score. I just found my spots and I found the way to like make it look good. But I'm a pure point at heart. So I hate point guards that don't care about scoring like a rondo like this nigga like they could fall into just the system of just playing the right way. Yeah. Like no, no,

I'm gonna least try to get in your head. People don't. Yeah, scoring ain't really that much to me because I winning the game is more than like I heard one of my OGs Kurt Heinrich say, like, after somebody gave him like 40 or 50, he's saying this shit out loud, but I'm just hearing him. We walking in the hallway, we won. And he was like, huh, that motherfucker just scored 50 points for no reason. Yeah, that shit hit home. Well, like, that's why I thought I scored that 50.

I was so happy that I won. And then you're like, you got to win, bro. Like 50 or 60, whatever it is, if you ain't getting that dub at the end, you raced up. Facts that wasn't Jed in high school. I mean, college. Oh, in college. I was different. I'll try to get somewhere. I guess I'm going to get somewhere. I was trying to get somewhere. That story cool D-Roll, from that motherfucking Jedi at White Force.

But in the league though, he adjusted. He did, he did. I'll come in for that for sure. I mean, by everybody like that in the high school, college, you getting to it. That's how you got to the league. That's what these young kids, they don't be looking at these players or they be thinking like, oh, you a bum because you on the bench. Bro, did you see this player when he was in high school or college? Yeah, that's how you got to sing, bro.

You know what I'm saying? No, but for sure. Hey, man, you brought one of my favorite college players of all time. My boy CDR. Y'all was going crazy. I love the CDR, man. Yeah, no, that's a fact. CDR.

What we got, and I got gotta tell this story to CD Young. So he tried to hold me, right? So it's me, him and Tone in the gym. We there for summer school. We shouldn't have course shots for a hundred dollars. A shot though. At the time, we both flogged and we don't got it like that. So every shot, you know, that's $100.

A shot in college. So he hit a shot and I shot right behind him. And he said that my foot was on the line and he tried to stand on me like, yeah, you know his voice. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? And I'm like, I ain't back off. I'm like, nah, nigga, nah, you got no, my foot wasn't on the line.

No matter of fact, he shot the shot and his foot was on the line and I made him shoot over. And he was surprised that I said something and he fucked with me for saying something like, damn, you ain't let me hold you. And I'm like, nah, nigga, I ain't going for that. And check, I got to tell another story. So this one, I really knew that I made the right decision. So once again, summer school, we there,

Joey Dorsey end up going to a Gangsta Boo concert, video shoot. Hold on, Joey, you out of the box. Nah, he a real nigga. Joey Dorsey, he a real nigga. He was in the box. Gangsta Boo, you a real nigga. You a wanted kid.

R.I.P. to the legend, man. R.I.P. to the legend, man. What the fuck? He missed the run, right? He missed the whole run. I'm thinking none of it. I get to the house, Joy comes to the crib, he thinking everything cool.

CDI ain't talking to him at all. He start cursing Joy out so bad, bruh. Like, man, you let the motherfucking team down, that's some ho-ass. He talking to him crazy. And you know, Joy, big, I'm thinking that they about to fight because it's my first, I don't know him like that.

I just got here. Joy respected it. Start crying, bro. I said, I made the right choice. These niggas care about winning, bro. Like you mad at the nigga for this some summer shit. You know what I'm saying? But and there was some shit that we were running.

Not cow. We we set that shit up or he set it up and the nigga didn't show up. And once I seen that, I'm like, this is gonna be a good ass year. Older niggas that's on the same page. I'm like, all right. You had a hell of a run. You had a hell of a year, bro.

You remember anything from that game, that championship game? Yeah, that was a shot. No, sir. Oh, damn. Shots in my dog. Don't worry, bro. That was a tough shot.

The only thing I... Yeah, the fireworks bruh. After you leave the court, the shit be burning you bruh. Why as you walking off, I wanted to fight somebody. That's the only thing I really remember. As you walking off as a loser, the fireworks you see on TV, that shit come down. A lot of people be getting burnt in that shit.

Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, the shit was burning me. That shit was making me so mad as I walked off the court, knowing that I blew the game. That was the only thing I remember for real, because after that, it was straight league. Yeah. Yeah. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks?

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you know, I seen a video, a documentary of you in, you know, Chicago getting the first pick or Miami or whatever. What was it like that feeling when you seen Chicago got that first pick, like, damn. So yeah, we was in LA at the time. And right when I seen that they were like one of the last ones, I kind of knew then,

and like what it was. Even though people in the room then said, I'm like damn, Chicago has 7% chance. I'm like, we gonna end up winning that shit. And yeah, that's going back to the crib. Like, yeah, everybody got to experience that one time, at least one time. Like, don't you know how everybody be saying

you should play in New York at least one time as a Hoover just to feel the atmosphere. I feel the same way about people playing at home. If you could, you might as well, like at least get that experience. I leaned on you, you don't even know. But I left Indiana to come to Minnesota. Right. So when you came on the team, I'm like, damn, because I hate no shade to Minnesota.

I love Minnesota. Cool. But I hate it. Leaving the crib. You know, I mean, like, damn, it was everything I wanted. I'm at the crib. My homeboys, everybody be at the game. After I leave the game, I throw Eve with my family, all that. So when I came, when you came to Minnesota,

it was like, ah, it's somebody I'm about to lean on because he experienced what I experienced. He had to leave the crib before. So that's why I started, you probably only know I started gravitating toward you, like, bro, you want to shoot? You want to do that? You like, because I just want to get,

damn, how did that nigga get through leaving Chicago? You was every like I was nowhere near what you was in Indiana, what you are to Chicago. Like I was good, but I played one year. You was there MVP, high expectations. Showed it all. I'm like, man, how you get through leaving the crib? So I just wanted to like, I'm like, man, how he work? What is mental life? And then I start seeing you read books and shit. And it's everything that I never even thought like I'm thinking you like, like, not like me, but I knew you was like, damn, he from the Midwest, he probably joking clown and clown and you joking clown. Yeah, yeah.

the shit and I was just like, all right, let me not fuck up his dedication. Because I was talking to a fucking that fuck this shit up. I was like, hey, bro, you try to get some bullshit. And he was just like, and he kind of like made me start like appreciating the craft again, because I was kind of like, damn, I got paid. I'm cool. My family straight. But then I seen you, I'm like, and he's super cool. Like, he got paid. He don't even got gotta be doing this really,

but he appreciating the craft. And it made me like start like, hold on, let me stop playing. Let me like remember why I love hooping. And he brought that to me, bro. Going into the league though? Nah, nigga, I was like everybody else. This shit, it takes time, bruh.

It takes growth, bruh, to get, I went through what I went through. I tried leaving two times, like, so you get to a point where, like, I could keep doing the same shit or I could change. So after I went through my case, I made a vow that for seven years that I was just going like, try to change my image. You know what I'm saying? By just, just being me, just staying out of sight, out of mind.

And it went from seven to now, I'm on year 11 of me just finding joy, bruh. You know what I mean? Like basketball got me that, but even coming here, I'm always looking for something for inspiration. So like coming here, seeing what y' for something for inspiration, so like coming here, seeing what y'all got going on, watching from afar, like huge fan of Jeff, of course, and seeing how he's adapting to like this new world and new business venture that he's in.

So the questions that I asked y'all in there, that's why I asked. We don't have to talk about it, you know what I'm saying? But that's what y'all hitting, you know what I mean? So. We appreciate you, bro. I'm saying? Because but that's what y'all hitting. You know what I mean? So we appreciate you. No, I'm glad you like it. Well, love, love. Was it a vet that when you got to the league, that kind of embraced you?

Almost every vet, bro. That's not every vet. Every teammate I had, I appreciate it. That's how I looked at this. Every one of them, because when it comes to like the basketball shit, when I was in it, I'm like, even though I am want the fame, I still wanted comes to like the basketball shit when I was in it. I'm like, even though I want the fame, I still wanted people to like appreciate like the work that I put in or like, like the way that I played. So nice to be on teams when they get.

And they tell me they from booze from Alaska. I'm thinking about market market market. And that's a market. OK. Like, damn, I never knew. Well, I mean, you know, you from overseas, damn, they watching you, too. I mean a market. Okay. Like, damn, I never knew. You know what I mean? You from overseas. Damn, they watching you too. I mean, they watching me. I bet.

Like, you know what I'm saying? I always show love to everybody. And I had gray vets too. Gray vets, right? Like, show me about health. Like, Lua was the first one. By singing, eat like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich at halftime. And now that's a custom in the league.

That's before you go on the buzzer. I mean, like brunch, all that shit is a is just there now. But before it was there, you had like, oh, geez, that really you saw stretching before every game, like a Nazi, Mohammed, like Joaquin. He took care of his body like a lot of guys were really pros, bro. Played at least 16, 17 years. Yeah. Didn't get in the game at all, but they get ready, they get activated.

Like they're about to play 30 minutes and to just chill. So I seen that and I'm like, man, whenever I do get in that position, I'm going to try to handle that the same way. But only how you get there is you got to kill your ego. And that's not like a one time thing. That's like a continuous fucking everyday thing. You know what I'm saying? What motherfuckers think is just one time.

No, that's just the first challenge. This shit just going gonna keep popping up, especially if you call your man, you feel like you accomplished something. You know what I mean? It's a thin balance. It's a balance, you gotta balance the shit out. So being aware of that, being mindful of it,

like that's when he met me, that's what the stage that I was in. When I see you, like, I ain't gonna lie. Everybody know me, I be like, I don't want no kids. But when I see you with your son, like, being in Minnesota and like seeing him shoot the bat, this is just random shit I remember because I used to watch him like, that's hard.

Y'all tried to shoot the ball into the rack. The rack. Yeah, and I'm like, y'all niggas know y'all not about to hit that, right? It's a fact, it's a fact. And I'm like, I'm looking like, they ain't gonna hit that. And y'all would continuously do it. And I remember one time he hit it.

Yes sir. And I was like, that motherfucker hit that shit. I was surprised too. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like. No, no, I'm not gonna bet, but that's my version of the crate for him. Yeah. Put the crate up on the phone, bro.

We gonna make a basketball rim out of anything on this motherfucker. That's real creative. And I want you to be able to be on this court, this stage and feel comfortable around 20 to 10,000 people looking at you. Just be yourself. Because a lot of kids I see like a lot of kids that get on that stage. Freeze up. Scared in the month. I'm like nah, I don't want my kids going through that. I'm putting them in positions to make them uncomfortable. Like I'm putting myself in positions,

but for them I wish I had a dad or yeah, something that I wish I had. So I got to present the opportunity for them. Nah, I was watching that shit. Man, he over there tossing that bomb. So it was like three days in the room. I'm like, yeah, he ain't going, yeah, I ain't going. That ain't gonna happen.

He hit that shit. I'm over there like, that ain't no nigga. Yeah, RIP J, I see you, boy. Like, it's dope to see you, boy. That's hard. A lot of these niggas, I'm glad you ain't trying to, but a lot of these niggas trying to live through their kids on the hoop world,

especially a lot of these AAU dads. So I going to ask you, like, how do you balance that dad life and, you know, making sure he stay on the straight and narrow on the hoop stuff, you know, pushing himself to his max ability? I mean, I'm pushing, but at the same time, it's more like discipline with him right now. But it's about knowing your worth, too, because he's in the stage and a lot of little hoopers need to hear this. Like, knowing your worth, like if a company come to you for an NIL deal or something like that,

and like you don't know your worth, you will take any deal. But you gotta look at like, what do you see your brand or what you see yourself associated with? Like he had a deal that come to him in which I thought that he shouldn't have took, but I can't say that to him. I asked him about it.

Hey, you think is right. So who do you see yourself associated with this brand, that brand? You start thinking about it. Like I got to make you think I got to provoke a thought. You know what I'm saying? Like just to see where your head at where you, and at least put it on your mind that if you see yourself being a MVP type caliber, whoever you associate yourself with got to be

on that same level too. So like, um, the, the hoop inside, I let them just play, bruh. I'm not on them. I make them do his pushups and sit ups and shit like that. But it's really just school and making sure that his mentor, like a lot of the kid he quiet. So a lot of kids

be like going through shit by themselves. And I'm with my kids. I want to be able to make sure that I'm there. Well, not only like my kids, but my family. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, for sure. It's interesting here. You said, you know, saying with T, he calls your alma mater, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, kids that now, like you said, it said it, you know what I'm saying, with T, he coached your alma mater, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Kids that now, like you said, it's a different situation now growing up in high school, being good,

or having some type of impression. They getting deals, it's like, all right, that might be cool now, but you don't know what you're getting yourself into. Ain't nobody getting deals at a high school. Not in the end. That's what I'm saying. How old is PJ?

He 11. Oh, shit. Yeah, he 11, bro. But like, it's like coaching kids, like you're right, this is a lot of the mental stuff, like what they go through outside of basketball, you just wanna make sure that they in a comfortable spot or they in a good place.

But like you doing that with your kids and that's dope. I wanted to know like when you watch them play, cause I seen him hit a game, a game winner. Yeah. You know, you too, I'm like, damn, like I remember him. Like you said, I remember him shooting on the little rack or whatever So to see him hitting game winners, do you see his skill level going up and you like shit, man I'm starting to see it. Do you? It is now and like I said, that's why I'm taking this step that I'm taking now, bro

Like I have to be there. Yeah for my bands, bro. Like It's all about the discipline, bro. Like, I don't know how many times, like, as a, I'm talking as a dad, not a father, because it's a difference. Like, my kids call me dad. I love when they call me dad, not father. That don't sound right to me.

You feel me? That sounds like some Michael Jackson shit. It sound like a boy. Don't sound right to me. So like that time that I'm putting in, giving every one of my kids that equal time, you know what I'm saying? But with him, since he's the oldest,

I have to be a little bit more strict on him as far as making sure he gets up on time for school, taking out the garbage. I love chore shit, but it creates your character. You know what I'm saying? So. Oh man. So I'm seeing like, it carries over to where

if you're not disciplined in something that you're passionate about in basketball, how you think you're gonna be disciplined in the other areas? You're not, if you're not disciplined about something that you love, other areas is gonna fall too. That shit gonna crumble at some point.

You feel what I'm saying? So I'm like, bruh, dedicate yourself to this, and I guarantee you it's gonna pay off. But he listened though, like that's half the battle too, and which I love about him. I could talk to him, he got his own individuality too. So once I see that, I don't wanna tamper with that because I see that if I do, you're going to try to make, you're going to try to follow me or follow in my footsteps.

You're your own person. You are PJ Rowe. You are your own entity. Right. How you feel about this? I asked him how he feel, bro. What you think? He had tell me the honest truth. All right, this is how we're gonna think about it. Just like we was talking about with the deal. He was mad that I was telling him that shit about the deal.

Like, cause he knew that I was telling him right. Like, I was asking the questions and the questions I was, the answers, he was like not elaborating on them. Like, yeah. He said a certain company name. I don't want to say the name, say their name. I'm like, so how, like that don't add up. P, you see what I'm saying?

He started to hear what I'm saying. He heard what I was saying, but he started crying. I'm like, bro, I'm not here to chastise you or make you feel like you made the wrong decision, I'm just showing you that you have worth. They're coming because you have worth. Now you decide what that worth is going to be. A lot of kids these days, they don't know what the worth, they don't, they don't even know that they got worth.

I don't tell them, I forget that they love them or some of it. Hitting them on the back for, for doing something right. So, um, me expressing to him where I'm at right now, telling him like, man, PJ, I'm doing this for me, my nigga. Not doing this for you no more. I'm quitting because of me. I'm tired of it. I'm doing this solely to be around y'all.

Taking you to school, I'm picking you up. I'm doing this, I'm doing that. He gonna appreciate that shit. You may not understand it now. That's my whole little saying now. You ain't gonna understand it, but later on you gonna respect it. I say that all the time.

Motherfucker house, bro. You ain't gonna understand. Motherfucker kids trifling. God damn. You gonna do it at home? Yeah. I done lied to those motherfuckers. Hey, y'all keep this room trifling, dude. These mice and it at home? Yeah. I just lying to told motherfuckers, hey, y'all keep this room trifling,

these mice and shit go come fuck you, the roaches and shit, you gotta lie to them. You gotta kinda catch them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all fake, son. Nah, for sure. What the hell you saying? I was just saying all kinds of bullshit.

Look at Piercy. Anything to make them listen, bruh. Nah, for sure. You gotta trick them a little bit. Yeah, for sure. That's what I meant about being a dad, like sparking that engine sometimes. You got a lot of the kids now, they don't know how, they ain't gonna know

because of the conditions and living circumstances that you got them in because of what you went through. I went through this, I'm putting you in this type of environment so that you don't got to go back to that. If they do go back to your failure, any what you'll fail you if you let them go back. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm creating this for you and to see you thrive. And that's all. That's the stage. I'm a man just bossing up, bro.

That's all about. Man, for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed. Bless bless, man. We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this meansing up, bro. That's what this shit's all about, bro. Man, for sure. Listen, man, we are blessed, blessed, blessed, man. We appreciate you pulling up. I know how much this means for you, bro. I know how much this means to us, like we said. We got this opportunity. Shout out to the team for making this happen, man. We were ecstatic, man.

We are really happy that you pulled up on this, man. It means the world to us, for sure, bro. Well, bro, no, I'm saying it for sure. Nah, for sure. Hell yeah. I gotta say something for you, Lil. I'm so geek, bro. I'm a fan. I know we graduated in 07 or whatever,

so when I was in college, you was a rookie, and you going against Rondo and them and the Celtics in the playoffs and stuff, and I'm watching, I'm like, damn, I know him. I competed against him, I seen him, and I see you do that shit, and then to get to know you over the years, and then see what kind of person you are, of father you are how dope you are as a person and cool and like for you to have all the accolades and all all the shit that you got and how humble you was like bro.

You would put me in spaces and we'd be in rooms and you like you the one and you like this is crazy. I'll take over the floor but everybody want to be around you. Like this is crazy. I'm taking over the floor, but everybody wanted to be around you. And that shit is dope. You don't meet too many people who just like who got the resume or the person that you are and let you be you. Like, you ain't had to let me start, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, no, no, no, you that's not my say.

I earn the start, bro. But if we be honest, bro, I'm the start. Exactly, bro. At that time, if we be honest, bro, I'm just a realistic person, bro. You have might have went through some stuff, you went to New York and whatever, whatever. And then you came to the team. But when you started hooping, oh, you nigga, you was average at 16

off the bench. I was average of 10. But still, I at that time, I was fully aware of where I was at at that time. I didn't want of where I was at at that time. I didn't want to start. Tim used to try to come to me. I'm like, no. I know you didn't want to start, but I was like, please, tell this nigga to start.

All the time he's saying, no, no, no. I'm like, no, he's saying the total opposite, bruh. The whole reason I'm telling Tim, tell this nigga, man, Tim's probably going to you like, you need to start, bruh. Like, no, I'm like, no. Telling his ass. I'm like, tell him again. Hey, what's so crazy is in a different situation, that's goes differently. And most of the time, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no, I'm like, no for it. Like, nah, I'm like, tell him again. And what's so crazy is in a different situation,

that's goes differently. And most of the time, and that's the typical in NBA, typically you got them going to get each other, but y'all pushing each other, and that's why it worked out. That's crazy. That nigga just did what is star cause they was hurting his feelings.

It wasn't even about that. It wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. It wasn't about that. What the fuck? Fuck them. Get that sad ass nigga off the court. That's why we can't go was about that. Fuck them. Get that sad ass nigga off the couch.

That's why we can't go back to Minnesota. Fuck them. I was fucking zeroed in. Listen, fuck you. Listen, by last day, we went to Prince House, right? We went to Prince House, right? We had a little show and I'm going to let you all get out of here.

Me? Wig. So you to know Wig is to love Wig. And he's like, he's me and him very similar. We're anti a lot of stuff. And then Dr. Umbar. I didn't say that. He said that. So there's a no wig and there's no Gorgi. So it's me, Gorgi and wig at a table. Right. We don't smile for shit. We don't do shit. We mean like people don't know this side of me. Only the teammates know I joke and shit. Like the fans don't know. They think I'm an asshole. I don't smile about shit. But wig don't smile about shit. Gorgi, he the nicest person in the world, but they don't know, like he don't smile. Man, our table empty. Nobody walk by our table. I'm talking about, man, his table.

Nigga, the Prince Jersey walking by. Not one person had a just T-Princess, by the way. I think my mama might have one. This nigga Prince Jersey, bro had to be the highest selling shit just to you, Prince. I think my mama might have won this nigga. Prince Jersey, bro had to be the highest selling shit in NBA. It had to be, bro. Yeah. It was up there. I know bro. They was walking by. I was like, damn, damn,

not a damn, damn. I'm like, we damn, we just got a max. I'm like, fuck, bro. You might want to, he's like, I gotta leave, bro. They don't fuck with me. I'm like, fuck bro. You might want to use that. I got to leave bro. They don't fuck with me. I'm like, they don't know. So I'm just like, I got to leave. Like they're not fucking with me no more. It was cat and then D wrote this Jersey was more than cats.

I was like, yeah, he not going to be back. Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, cat not fucking with that. I'm keeping it a beam bro. I'm keeping it a beam bro. I was like, y'all know it. Stop putting, hey. Stop putting Smut, oh cat name.

I'm not hating on cat bro. I swear to God I love cat bro. Cat cool as hell. I think cat one of the coldest players to ever play. Same, same. When I seen that shit, you had to be there, bro. We act Prince House, bro, with Prince jerseys. I'm watching them like this is D-Roll shit. Like, I'm like, this is shit. You know me, I'm, I'm a real nigga. I've real I realize

shit like, yeah, he went to six man. I'm like, yeah, he Yeah, this is team. That was one of the best collabs that they did. What? Fire. Was that the first time they ever did that? I don't know. That shit was fire though. Had to be, bro. My mama called me like, get that press dresser, baby, it's going to be a lot for you.

I'm like, my mom shit, that motherfucker is up there. I was like, no, that D-Raw, I'm about to ask you, I said, can you sign this motherfucker? It's how much people have signed. Can you sign it for me? He was like, yeah, I signed it. And somebody took that bitch. Yeah, you signed it and put it in the locker, nigga, I came back, it was gone.

It was on the equipment. Somebody got to you. Yeah, okay, I can't. I know so many niggas was asking for that shit. I didn't even want to ask you to sign another one. I'm like, dang. That motherfucker gonna be on eBay right after this interview. Yeah, I'm like, the nigga hit back with that jersey,

tap in. 400K. 400K. 400K. They took my offer, 400,000 for that motherfucker, right? I knew when he had all them jerseys, I said, yeah. That was a hell of an experience. That was dope.

That was dope. His house was crazy. I swear. That's one of the craziest homes I ever been to. I don't think they still respect them. He's a legend, bro. No, I'm talking about in the house. The rules are the same.

No. Nigga, don't touch. I can't touch nothing as if he's still there. I've never seen nothing like that. Nigga, be gentle around that. I swear, bro. Don't shoot on that goal. I was like, damn.

They said that they used to who, too. I would love to meet him like that, but. Same food menu, like you can't bring no meat, no other shit in the crib. They still respect him. I never saw nothing like it, bro. That's for sure. It was crazy.

Damn, listen, I know we gotta get out, but I gotta ask, we brought up the jerseys. How does it feel to still see, you know what I'm saying? Like people wear your jersey, cause I know, like we always talk about the jersey like that, like that baby blue nuggets, Mellow jersey, but that number one bull jersey, it's long man. That's like a hood legend jersey.

Like everybody in the world, even you go to the frat house of the crazy white boys playing beer, Paul, they got a deep roll shirt. How does it feel for that, like today, universal moment, like everybody's like, no matter where my boy at, we fucking with that jersey. As far as right now, I'm living in gratitude. For sure, bro.

Be appreciative, you know what I'm saying? And not to make y'all this episode serious like this, because I know y'all normally got like, some humor shit, but. Nah, you good, bro. We going to talk, we going to pop shit. You straight, bro. You straight.

So people need it here. Yeah, but yeah, just living in gratitude, bro. And that's one of the reasons why I think we wanted to come here and show love. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, some Midwest shit, like I said. For sure, man. Hey, man, like I said, we appreciate you. We appreciate you giving us this moment, man.

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