Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Evan Turner on guarding Derrick Rose, playing with Isaiah Thomas, Jayson Tatum’s Paris Olympics

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 98 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Evan Turner. Turner talks about winning the Wooden Award as the best player in the country in college basketball, getting drafted No. 2 by the Philadelphia 76ers, having to struggle for a second contract, guarding Derrick Rose, playing alongside Isaiah Thomas on the Boston Celtics, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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All right, we back, man. Another episode of Club 52020 podcast this ain't even a guess we got family in the building man We've been waiting for this episode for a minute man introduce my man's last to my far left my dog Bitch should be here not the pretty least how you were nasty cool And Phoenix baby, let's get to it for show to my right my dog. I'm not sure you'll take how you what I'm chilling Bro, you already know I'm hype right here to my right my dog, young nacho, young Tig, how you what? I'm chillin bro you already know it. I'm hype right here, this my dog. Who's the one by the door? I ain't gonna hold you, he's the one by the door. Shout out to JR. JR got the special Ten legend, Ohio State legend, long time NBA vet, and the man at the point for a podcast. We got ET, Evan Turner in the building, big dawg, appreciate you sliding on this brother.

And appreciate y'all man, when y'all invited me, like I said I was touched, but I took so long to pull up cause I didn't wanna like give y'all stinker interview. Hold on bro. Yeah that's how you start a skit. That's how you start a skit. That's how you start a skit. That's how you start a skit.

That's how I took so long to pull up. I was like, man, I don't know if I can really, they pods be popping. I don't know if I'll dull it down or not. Nah, bro. We follow you on Twitter. You set the narrative. Elite Twitter rants. That's my best work.

Sometimes I'll be like, bro, are people watching when I'm posting? Because I'm going crazy. Like, bro. Hey, when you say, if we lose to Serbia, I'm back with my son Nikola. I'll be dropping. If you think about it, bro, that'd be the next wave of bad.

Niggas wouldn't be whooping no more. If we would have lost to Serbia, it would have been over, G. And I'm like, bro, they could beat some nigga's name LeBron. Like, Nikola just beat some nigga named LeBron. It's over for us, G. Y'all don't think so? What's wrong with him? It's because I'm being dead serious.

It was deeper than rap, G. Let's start off with the Oranger, man. My dog, all right, this story go way back for me because I remember meeting ET when I was like, sophomore in high school was like sophomore high school Freshman in high school. He played for the Illinois Wolves, bro They had nice jersey uniform team was all put together and here I come with these nappy braids reversible jerseys our own shorts and we playing against Evan and Demetri and

They used to beat our ass They was working on it We got buckets in there, we used to beat our ass. They was working on it. They had plays and shit. We used to practice. We used to come to the tournament. But I knew ET since back then, man. It's dope to see where you came from there to now. It's crazy as hell to see.

It's funny because even back in that tournament, you know back in the day, if you like an unsigned senior, you could play AAU. So we were playing 17 or under, but we were 16. And I remember like just seeing the jerseys, not really knowing like who he was, but I'm like, oh, he picking our pockets, like buddy dunking shit, buddy, you know what I mean? Like just giving us pure hell.

So in my head, I'm like, he gotta be an unsigned senior. So like, while we playing shit, I'm kind of like, hey bro, you can play over here We got jersey Like everything He said that to me to build a game bro like you wanna play with us, but we got jerseys I said, what's wrong with this thing? You wanna go to Reebok camp? I'm like everything, I don't know

So once that games over we like bro like, bro, buddy so cold. So we talked to our AAU coach. I'm like, well, where is he supposed to go? They say, bro, that kid is your age. I'm like, that kid is my age? So like when we're sitting, I'm like, bro, that's no cap G. We all said you was better than D-Rose at the time. Yeah, I think it's true.

Bro, that's how good you was playing at that, right? So we like- I had some moments, but she- No, that day, we must have been learning to you because you was killing us. And I just remember sitting there and always just remembering, find out you were my age and just being like,

man, it's gonna be a tough climb up if I got to battle versus him. Then we go to AAU, we go to a ABCD camp. And like our whole team was just like, every tournament you were in, we were just paying attention to you and be like what the T kid do what the T kid do? I'm over my a you turn coach telling skip Prosser like you might want the me tree. Yeah, this is the one Like the me trees are coldest do ever seen and we're like Like cries kept by that dude over there that only like

to play every other game That's the truth Then he was DMP back in the 90s He would just show up at ABCD camp and not look interesting but you know we trying to change our lives right but you know like That's just my look bruh that ain't how I really feel I just look like that

Man the homeless killer That's the same with, bruh. That ain't how I really feel. I just look like that. Man, the homeless killer. What? That's sad when a nigga your age ask you, hey, man. What's your name? They don't care, homie. They got some water over there. They need some socks. You know, I went to a U-turn that we still unsigned.

So I'm expecting every tournament to look like some shit on TV. Like, so I want to go change my life. So when I'm showing up, they got reversible jerseys. This ain't this ain't it. He was on South Sudan. What? I can't get jiggy with this. You're real like Mike. You're fucking up my 30 for 30.

And I might do with the 4X T-shirt. I'm like, man, and I'm like, dude with the 4X t-shirt. I'm definitely at Williams. Yeah, man. JJ Reddick, no, JJ Williams never going crazy. And that was nearly Jeff T and no funny shit. I had been a fan ever since then. We were like 16 years old. That was in Louisville, Kentucky.

Was you already that guy around that time too though? Yeah. He was? Yeah. Don't be humble. too though? Yeah. He was? Yeah, he was that height. Don't be humble talk, we talking bro, come on. He was that height. I was. He could handle the ball, so we like,

damn this nigga six seven will handle, so like he always had that right to left, that mug, or that left to right, that mug was mean. Yeah, I've been doing it since I was 14. I'm like, damn, he tall as shit, dribbling the ball, he the point, cause when he was coming in the game, we thought he was gonna be like the power forward.

And he handlin' the rock, and the little white dudes are just runnin' around shootin' threes. And him and Demetri got the ball. We like, we ain't got nobody to guard him. So he used to kill us and I'll never forget. I was just like, Demetri Cole, and you know, feel like, nah, he the Cole one, look how tall he is. And that's how we became fans.

And then we was like damn I just kept up with him and when I see him go to Ostate I'm like damn you going there with him because we thought Mike was staying so I'm like damn You going there with Mike in them. That's crazy, but I Let you keep going DJ Dipping and that was so that's pretty much it, bro I just remember going back to those days and like how loaded pause that class was Yeah, even then when I was saying we thought you was better

than D-Rose but they had Chris Wright, they had J Lucas. They had damn near everybody. It was tough to make an All-American game for Paws. Oh yeah, hell yeah bro. B's, yeah. OJ, Peele. Y'all was strapped. But growing up in Indianapolis around that time

it was probably a peer hell. Shit, probably the same for you in Chicago. Oh yeah, D-Rose was a problem. Yeah, what's that like though? Like in high school, competing against D-Rose? Man, it was... You gotta think, he was D-Rose back then. So I remember the first time I ever really seen him, we had like an

eighth grade All-Star game and it was like West Subbers versus West Side, South Subbers versus South Side, and I think like North versus downstate. So I was playing on a West Side team, so I was playing in a different game, but I remember being in the back and I see like a trophy and it's like Player of the year, Derek Rose, I'm like, well who the, player of the year, Derek Rose, who the hell is Derek Rose type stuff, why would he get a whole trophy and I'm here type shit. That's what I'm thinking in my head,

like why would you do that? They don't know who I is? Yeah, man like before you know it, Buddy just pulled up and was dunking everything, he goes to Simeon, he wasn't allowed to play his freshman year, but then once the sophomore year hit, he was God and everybody else is just them. You know what I mean?

So I was a distant second when we grew up playing. But to grow up and play in the city of Chicago was just crazy. You know. You came across Pat Bev too. Yeah, Pat Bev. People don't, man, Pat Bev to me, you can say D-Roses up there G,

but Pat Bev was throwing up 40. Yeah, bro. And he's not publicly taking out everybody. So I thought it was pretty dope. We had a lot of dope talent during that time. And when you see what they're doing now, you look at John Shire during that time, he was by far head over heels better than everybody

until D-Rose took him out. And he's shit the coach of Duke. Yeah. And he's Ryan Collins left there. He's a whole new ball time. Brian Collins left there. He's a Kansas legend. All the time. When this player at Kansas. You look at Jake Pullen.

People forget Jake Pullen. That's all. He's a state legend. All the time, he's scored from there. What was that high school my fault that he went to? Jake Pullen went to Proviso. What was that big man from there? Brian Carwell.

Brian Carwell. He went to St. Joe. Yes, bro. That was a. My bad, I just had a moment. Yeah. It's not gonna happen. No, because to St. Joe. Yes, bro. That was a... My bad, I just had a moment, yeah. It's not gonna happen? No, because he came to Indiana and did some work to Greg Olden and Mike Conley

and that was like a big deal. So, you know, around that time growing up in Chicago, I think like there's like 20 players in the top 20 from the state that went D1. So, you know what I mean? So, I was playing versus a bunch of kids in the big 10 and I grew up playing versus since I was 10 years old. That's awesome.

And it was so crazy in the city, especially in that time period at 050, 607. Cause you go from Josh McRoberts to Mike and Greg and then EJ. Yeah, we had a rough. And I remember talking to Brad Stevens. He was just saying like, I would go recruit like from Butler,

not trying to go get them, but I would wait to go see a guy play versus him and be like if they do decent They can I know they're pretty good because these dudes are gonna be NBA Hall of Famers. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy What was it like you had to battle was like coming up in that time? Did that kind of kill your confidence that you weren't Mike? Nah, I mean cuz like you was cold, bro Nah, cuz like Mike Mike dad is the reason I gain confidence, because I used to have good games against Mike.

But I was like a hood hooper. Like I didn't want to do that shit like that. So like when I played against I just wanted to cross him because I knew everybody's going to talk about it. Like I'm just going to cross him. But then I started getting competitive and I was scoring stuff. But I never look at it like that. They were just Greg and Mike to me.

Like, I didn't really know they was like a big, big deal until I went to Vegas and I seen how people was treating them. I'm like, oh, they don't shit like you don't be here. We like, oh, that's great. Oh, and they can't go outside, though. I can go outside like I'm in with my friends. We go to parties in the streets. They can't do that. So it didn't look fun to me to be them but then when I seen kind of love they was getting everywhere else like they got Reebok deals and I'm

like oh yeah they getting the real love I'm getting the booties getting twerked on at the club they getting the real stuff so it wasn't't mean nothing until I got to there. And I'm like, I gotta figure it out. Then Coach Conley kind of put a battery in my back. Like, you just as good as him. And they said, son, you like, damn, you think I'm good as him? He like, yeah, you should have all these offers too.

And I'm like, shit, he gassed me. And he gassed me to a whole nother level, to be honest. Now that's hard, bro. Yeah. That's definitely hard. Shout out to Coach Conley man for sure. But like you said man, going crazy in Chicago. How'd you end up at Ohio State? Um, I said, my dad's from Ohio.

Okay. So every summer I was like nine to ten, I would go visit him in Columbus. So I would go to like Ohio State sports camps and I go to like Clark Kellogg camp. And he was like a big deal at the time. Yeah, so in the summertime, I kinda, when I first went there, like,

I kinda knew like how big of a deal, like people like mess with the Buckeyes. So you fast forward like six years later, we're playing at the King James tournament and I'm playing versus some white pigeon-toed dude And he's like this state. He just scored 77 points. His name is John Deaver Yeah, we're playing versus each other and I'm looking at stands. There's a bunch of like scouts and coaches there So apparently that motto is there so no you young they telling you like hey You about to play versus best dude, whatever he did it. It is so, you know, you go out you like, hey, you about to play with the best dude ever, he did it, you know, you go out, you like this white

dude, like, man, I'm gonna put on for the hood. So buddy come out, he gave me like, five straight threes. And then like, like that, they had a burner, yeah, burner, like volleyball, I never seen somebody just like dribbling down the court and like, pull out he wasn't looking at the line, he was just pulling out of nowhere. That's like, bro, this dude is different. And luckily, I of nowhere and I was like bro this dude is different and luckily I played well that was like a Saturday by that Thursday I was on Ohio State campus and um shit I got offered I went to

an NBA camp in June I was like bro I gotta go somewhere that's um it was a dumbass decision I should have just went to Wisconsin or Illinois but I'm'm like, okay, Daquan Cook, Mike Conley, all them at Allstate, I gotta get ready and go there. But it was just like, them boys' paws was loaded, but at the same time, you think about my trajectory, if Daquan Cook would have never left that first year, I might have been sitting for a year and a half, two years. But I just thought when I was a kid,

the thought of competition and being from Chicago, I thought a top recruiting class for somewhere big I would be able to perform at. And that shit just worked out. For sure. The fire didn't come in class though. Yeah, we were. The hamster worked out.

It definitely worked out. Yeah, that was nice. What was 33's name? I hate I forgot his name there. No, no, it's John D. Blue. 23 is David Leite. 23, David Leite. Yeah, we had Will Buford. Yeah, Will O'A. Yeah, Will Leite. We had Will Buford.

Will 08. Will ended up the second time all leading scorer. Deabler ended up breaking the conference three point record. And Dave was the all time winner. He was cold. And you was player of the year. Yeah, and we finessed him. Big Selinger?

Big Selinger was the best to ever do it. He was so cold. I didn't play with him, but the next year he really killed it. financial. Did I ever do financial here? Big Salinger? Big Salinger was the best I ever do it, man. He was so cool. I didn't play with him, but the next year he had really killed it. But you know, during that time, I just felt like the Big Ten was something I was really familiar with. And you know, just going close to home was a big deal. And that was really it.

But when I look back on it, ACC ball might have been more fun, bro. Where would you have been? It was definitely fun. I was trying to go to NC State to be honest with you. And then. You actually fit them. That's great. That's what I'm saying.

I saw Julius Hodge. Yeah. Yeah, they had to do Brandon Kossner. Yeah. But Chris Wright had committed and Sendekit eventually ended up dipping. Yeah, Sidney Lowe. Yeah.

And then I was either that or Wake Forest, which was, you know, Coach Prosser and what's the Italian coach? Gaudio. Yeah, Gaudio, we were on there, but we pulled up to Wake Forest and our coach asked about the black population. And they were like,

I think the guys go across the street to what's them say on state? We did. We did. And my coach was like, nah, bro, you ain't supposed to lead campus to find black people. Yeah.

Yeah. And we were like, okay, he, you ain't supposed to leave campus. As a white man, I'm offended. I remember what I did. I recruit, baby. I remember what I could say to Wake Forest. He said that he was like, there ain't no black people on there. He was like, y'all got to sit at the front of the classroom. I was like, damn, I went to the Wake Forest. We had legit sit at the front of the classroom. I was like Damn, I went to the Wake Forest we had legit sit at the front of the classroom. Damn bro Niggas had to tighten up. Yeah, I used to go to one single state every other day

So it was a lot of black people at home stay with you. That's a decent amount I mean you can count on everybody being from Cleveland, you know I mean, so they got the whole state there from Cleveland, but and there's some niggas in Cleveland Yeah, but it was a decent vibe. I think college was cool for what it was. I learned a lot, and you know, but the real gig was just trying to get to the league. Yeah, bro. For sure.

I mean, to get off the subject, but you know, it's the NIL money and shit going on, especially how you played in college. What you did, yeah, you might have sat there for a little checky check. I probably would have flamed out way quicker because I wasn't able to handle everything that came at me. You'd have cracked out. I would have cracked out on Johnny Manziel. Alright Marcus Jordan, you next? Like one old girl said he got game game I can already read and write.

I don't really need school. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Hey bro, so wrong with you bro. He not right. Oh shit. Obviously you know what I'm saying. You go on draft night.

How was that process for you? Cause you know what I'm saying, you number two pick. Yeah, that was, it was a cool, you know, draft process when I hear everybody else's horror story. You know, but I was blessed. It was cool. I did one workout and we, when the balls dropped pause, we were, we knew that I would go to Philly

because John Wall was legit. So John Wall was the consensus. And I just knew like when number two dropped, it's like, oh, I guess I'll be a Philadelphian or whatever. So luckily that was the case. And we went and did a workout and you know, everything worked well until the first game. And then, you know, life changed. What happened the first game? No, just like shit was real.

I was supposed to come in and be Brian right? I was just running the first day. I was lying like shit. I had to go talk to my sponsors. So when people like y'all got partners, like I didn't have them by the second year. Why did you think you was co-ed to Liga? You was going to be the man on Philly? Because I was co-ed to Liga. So when people like y'all got Park, I didn't have them by the second year. So.

Why did you think you was coming to Liga, you was gonna be the man on Philly? Cause I was cold. You was raw, you wasn't sad clearly, but that was an Iggy-num team. Yeah, you got drafted to a tough team. Yeah, bro. In the behind switch, I'm just joking.

I got drafted to a really good team in a really good situation. And when I thought of Philly, I was like, no, I want to go to Golden State at number seven because I wanted to play with Steph. Like Paul is really really bad and I just knew the fit and I knew Dre wasn't no slouch but back in the day people forget we just started going into this team ball like before it was like a couple years before that like the Trailblazers didn't draft KD because anything B-Roy and KD, like it had to be

one alpha guard, one alpha big type situation. So when it came down to it, like I really just showed up and it was like, it was, you know, it was Dre's team and you kind of got like really fit in, get in where you fit in. So that development of what you saw John Wall get, I'm not saying I've been John Waller, even Wesley Johnson, he was in Minnesota cracking and you know,

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Who grabbed, like, not grabbed you. That's crazy. But what, what that really took you under the wings to un-gay the game? Right away? Yeah, right away. Right away, Lou. Shout out to Lou.

Shout out to Lou. Yeah, the, I think he just took a liking into me because I just thought he was like, what's to this man, you know? But I remember like the first, one of the first couple days, he picked me up and we went to the gun range and then he just took me around the city.

And you know, that's the first real time I ever got drunk was with Lou Williams. And I- Damn, Lou. Yeah. Real fit. No, but it was some real stuff. So I was with Lou Williams. Damn, Lou. Yeah. Real fit. No, but it was some real stuff. So I was chopping it up.

I was going through some rough rookie stuff. And I'm telling about I'm in a dump. So we lose in Philly. Doug Collins is definitely being tough on me in a sense. We lose in Philly, we land in Detroit. So it's like, meet me in a lobby in 20 minutes. It's not an option. So I meet him in the lobby in 20 minutes, it's not an option. So I meet him in the lobby, we go next door at a bar,

and he's just like, he got like eight shots lined up, type of shit. And he's like, he's just starting to talk, he's like, look, bro, this game of basketball is supposed to be fun, it shouldn't be up and down. Like, if you bring this shit home with you, you're gonna be mad every single goddamn day. He's like, you ain't had fun since you've been here.

He's like, just let that shit go. Be who you're gonna be, but you can't bring this shit home with you. You're gonna literally let your head explode. And he's like, that's it. Just go out there, try, hoop, and finesse from there, but you can really hoop. And I was like, I already bet. And he's like, okay, now make sure you finish these shots. So like, so I had, like, so that, like, I took like two or three shots, like off the bat.

But I remember like, Lou was somebody I could always like rely on or relate to because he had went through everything as a player. Like when I was tripping practice and be like, man, you got me, you got me running your plays, but I ain't running them in the game. He'd be like, motherfucker, like when I was your age, they would take me out of practice

and a coach would practice. You understand what I'm saying? So like, so when they came down to it, it's like I got real game from him. Elden Brand was super cool. And then obviously Iguodala, we had a, but it has to start, but eventually towards the end of my first year we became like brothers. Like by the fourth year, you know, we didn't even play on the same team, but I was the best man in this wedding. And then, you know, when he had his daughter, you know, he named her Evan. And it was like, I felt it so like,

when we got to that level of like friendship and like connecting, I just felt like we had like a relationship that was just bigger than basketball. And that was what I really took from those vets because even my ups and down times, I could always count on them and depend on them even if I felt like I didn't have a friend. All right, so after them shots of E and J,

what did you? The urban jerk, yeah shit. Now what was them shots though? That was Henny. That was Henny? Shout out to the spots. Shout out to the guys. No, that's Patron, that's Patron.

No, that was Henny. That was Henny. That was Henny, actually it was Henny. That was Henny. Shout out to the Swaps. Shout out to the guys. No, that's Patron. That's Patron. No, that was Henny. That was Henny. That was Henny, actually. That was Henny. Nice. It's so many lighting, but that was Henny. That's what I'm saying.

And then I had a shot of cranberry, and that was it. So when did you start getting comfortable in the league, though? I think it's different levels of comfort. Not even so much playing, but so much as just saying, forget it and accept it my role. I think one thing that occurred was I came in super early. You mean you speak, I mean listen you're ages and stuff you're trying to carry a brand so I could have been like a prima donna type shit and I was but I think one thing

when I started getting comfortable is just really buying into like the team atmosphere and really accepting my role and not really worried about like what people think and just trying to go from worry about being great to just getting good each day, but also just swimming, you know When you get selected high like you look at Anthony Bennett, they cut, you know Anthony Bennett could still be good, but like they undercut him quick and like bro you sad like you need like two thorough years He was done with them like 20 games and shit Yeah, I was just on some nice sneaker swim and like try to figure out how to be the best player I could

And that's one thing that they don't speak about a lot is like when you come in the league, especially when you have expectations Is there's no time for you to fuck up and you have to be blessed to be in a good organization Or to have good vets if you don't have either one of them or if you don't have both She can get real spooky and then like you said you bring work home with you You all in your head trying to play basketball you forget how good you are for that shit. And playing in Philly bruh? Told y'all the worst fans ever. Yeah and playing in Philly is definitely different so I felt this though like being in Philly for that little bit of time really kind of not saying like made

us sick on a sense of how I like viewed a game of basketball I was just like you know kind of like fuck it I'm gonna have fun with it. But once I left Philly, there was nothing ever that serious that was like that bad or tough because all that pressure there was OD. I was supposed to be the number two pick and do whatever. I went complete opposite. And I had to like continue to swim, you know what I'm saying? After my fourth year in the league,

dudes were signing for 30 something million and I'm getting all for 250,000. know I mean like when dudes are signing like I'm trying to it was damn near like September and then I didn't have a place to go damn 25 years old like people are hitting the streets asking me you staying in league or going overseas hmm so you sit in down you like damn just four years ago I had shit popping you know I? So like I just felt like I had to really you know lock in buckle in but like almost on like some shit entourage shit when it came to Vinny Chase like bro I'm not getting I'm not getting elite roles no more you know

what I'm saying and that was just like the real thing. Where was you off to next Portland? No I ended up going to Boston. Boston? That's when E.T. That's when you turned up. Oh yeah, that's when you turned up. That's when the bad came. E.T. I.T.

Everybody came together boys. We definitely had two years in Boston, it was definitely fun. It had obviously reignited a feeling for me to enjoy playing basketball. Also, it had a great foundation for a landing point when I was done. I still go to Boston and you get mad love, but at the same time have opportunities to still extend my position in the game of basketball just to help. For sure, man. We're're gonna fast forward too far. We gotta talk about y'all linking up in Boston, man. Man, to be honest with you, G, like... I thought it was cool.

I knew Jeff was cool, but I used to always be like, bro, if you're this funny, why do you not show that and literally show people that? I thought he's the funniest dude on earth, and I thought he was nice. The funniest thing about Boston, I was waiting around to, it was either I was gonna retire or I was waiting for Boston. I didn't have no chances and Brad was kind of like,

maybe I'll throw you a bone. So when it came down between me and Jeff, I'm talking like Poo Allen, it's between you and Jeff. I'm like, well, y'all should just take Jeff because I'm not better than Jeff like if y'all trying to win a championship I'm like bro that's just that's OD so then we show up and like they take Jeff and like I'm like alright I guess I'll go on to coach and pretty much Jeff was just like we end up being like side-hits. One of the guys. Cause I'm back in the picture. Cause I'm in the back of the picture. I look over and Jeffer like having shoelaces on top.

We'd just be like What was that nigga number out there? 55 That wasn't J. Will? J. Will. At one point I'm like bro I'm like bro this is how you know it's different. Cause we're like bro everywhere you go you would be able to keep your initials.

Your name's Jeff T. You know what I mean? So when we go on the board, I'm looking at Brad, and Brad like, JB, KW, MS, Jet, JT. I'm like, what the fuck is Jet? Like, who is Jet, Jet? And he's like, Jeff T. I'm like, my nigga, he's older than Jason Taylor.

You can't get his initials? You remember the hip-hop? Nah, I remember. And I'm like, nah, here it is. You know what's fucked up about it? He wrote the play. He had like JT, said somebody else, so I'm thinking, I got the ball. I'm like, all right.

So I was like, hold on, hold on. When he go here, I go here he's like no no no you here Jet! What the fuck? It's Porter! Whoa! Kemba in tears! And I'm in the back G I'm like bruh no they ain't just call you Jet Kemba is crying Kemba call me Jet the rest of the fucking year

Shout out to my dog The rest of the fucking year. Shout out to my dog. The name of the Kenny Smith is crazy. Bro, oh dear. My knees was like Kenny's at the time. Thank God you ain't walking like this. Lord, please. But that time in Boston, I mean, I don't know how Jet felt.

Hell dog. It was definitely like a what the hell are we doing moment because it's Colvin yeah man like I'm trying to tell dudes that were better than me how to play basketball that's when I knew coaching was full of shit I'm like, what? Who am I? Bro, this man's a problem in that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's funny as shit. They had me beat Jason Tate on position. I'm like, bro, he's not listening. That's the shit I say.

Like, you know what I mean? I'm like, bro, I'm not finna tell him nothing. Like, I'll work one on with this. Like, no, he is perfectly fine. But we were able to, we made bonds with playing one on ones, bro. For sure. For sure. We got a classic group chat, man.

Millwood called the Millwood. But we were able to we got we made bonds with playing one on one Yeah, for sure. We got we got a classic group chat man Midway caught the Midwest group chat man. We all became really cool In Boston, bro, it's funny as hell. What is you I? Want to always ask is even an experience in Boston I still thought you have a two or three more years to play I wanted you the Boston kind of stop, we saw each other in Atlanta and I told you before, I was like, bro, it's almost over for me.

You know what I mean? You told me not that you shouldn't be here. I said you shouldn't be here. You said you shouldn't be in Atlanta. They're gonna give you 11.2 minutes per game. You told me that. And they, I didn't sign, they offered me a year, another year after that.

But I didn't sign, I should have had signed it. I don't know what I was thinking, but I hated it so much, cause I was like, damn, I love Atlanta, but they told me I had a cap, like you can only play 19 minutes, you know what I mean? It was just like, damn, I was just averaging 14 off the bench in Minnesota.

Well, I come here, all I can get is 19 minutes, bro, I was damn near being a running for six man. 14 and 22 minutes or something, I was hoping. Then I was like, nah, and I thought COVID happened. I should've went to the Knicks. Tibs called me, Tibs like, come on to the Knicks, you gon' probably start. But then Brad called me, he was like,

Kimba's out, you gon' start. Kimba's out, you remember Kimba was hurt. And then you woke up. He was like, you go start Kim was out. And I'm like, damn, the Celtics are cold. Like I was like the Knicks. I don't know too much about the Knicks. They ain't got nobody. So I'm gonna go to Boston. I was like, it's gonna really get me back. And I got there. He was like, we're gonna start Marcus at the point.

You gonna be the sixth man. I'm like in the first game I'm hooked. You missed three layups but you had 19. I'm right man. I could have made a layup the same, but it got to the point. I didn't miss a three the whole preseason. No time out, G. You was missing so many layups, we had played three on three. And when you had made a layup, one of them shorties, he was like, he usually miss those.

Look, they talking crazy. He miss those, he went up. Little kids telling Jeff, he went up. I was so scared to shoot a layup at that time, I would rather shoot a three. I was making so many threes, I was like, fuck that. I ain't running to fast breaks, I was running, Jeff, he with us. I was so scared to shoot a layup at that time. I would rather shoot a three. I was making so many threes. I was like, fuck that, I ain't running to, fast breaks, I was running to the corner.

I was scared to shoot a layup. I don't know why, but then I had a game at the end where we started playing again, my layups came back, but I couldn't shoot no more. My three was broke as hell. Did you ever tell, man, you just said something that was, this is why I like Jeff a lot, because he was a,

his opinion was super different to somebody that like be saying some off the wall stuff, I'm like yeah that's my man. And I remember we were in a gym and you were like bruh, it's an unpopular opinion, but I think James Harden is a better shooting guard in Kobe Bryant

Don't say that, Brad I've been waiting to say this, bro So we better talk about this, G. This is finna go viral, bro So why did you think that? Because, bro, I've been getting killed for so long The Kobe fans, the Co-op, bro, one dude, three to kill me Y'all can't even realize how much I like you We already on the Kobe roll already kill for so long That's my dog. At that time, we can talk about that off camera. I did not say that. Oh, no.

I'm stricken. I be lying too. So I ain't saying, he ain't say none of that shit. I ain't going down that cubby road. Bro, but you had great, the dude that said it had great audience that day. You know, I'm like, him, I see that. And then I see that.

I mean, you. I ain't like. I'm not gonna say that. Never mind. It was a good. It was a good. That was Jet. It was. Jay Leronega was battling. We were just having a conversation at ET and Jason was there.

It was. I think you said it. And then Jason and Jay. They went crazy. They went nuts. They definitely went nuts. But to be honest with you, you kind of persuaded me a bit. Yeah, don't E.T. up telling you.

So, I was like, shit. That's the first time we fought. Yeah, you was at me on that one. And then I just remember we were being the back of the bench. We always have these crazy debates. So I was the first person to really told him how cold Luca was that's a fact I get it So like when we sit him behind the bench like Luca kind of going through like his first half like things like bro I don't know G this man kind of like it's a fire story But he's like man this man kind of like lazy like he's just not doing enough for me

He whined and I'm like bro. That's like, you know run up the court my bro. Look at him. He's a man I'm like look at him.'s like, you don't run off the court. I'm like, bro, look at him. He the man. I'm like, look at him. He not worried about no regular season game. So then we keep going. I said, bro, are you sure he good? I said, bro, he going to turn it on. He's really him. So like, what were we doing?

We were up by 10 or 12. He was in Dallas. So we in Dallas. He's like, bro, JB and JT getting rid of this mess. I said, bro, I'm telling you, like it might not look good now, but in clutch, if they get close, we not going to win. I said, bro, I said, you, like, it might not look good now, but in clutch, if it get close, we not gonna win. I said, bro, I said, I'm just saying the game get close, we not gonna win. So like the game start creeping down. So the more and more... He looked at me and I'm like...

Hey, Mayu, he's a coach. I'm a player. I'm a coach. And they weren't listening to me. They weren't listening to me. They weren't listening to me. That's how crazy that season was. I'm sitting in the crowd with him. Like I'm not on the down with the players. It's COVID.

So I'm sitting by him. We up there just kicking the shit. Like everything. So I'm sitting there. I said, bro, if it get close, G, like we not going to win. Like I'm telling you, he's like shit, bro. Like everything, so I'm sitting there, I said, bro, if it get close, G, like we not gonna win. Like, I'm telling you, he's like that, bro. He's just like that, like, he's just it. So it get closer, they call the time out,

and like, I think they down like two. So like, Jeff, like, get up, like, bro. I ain't no way, I'm like, bro, I'm telling you. And he like, he did, did I call out where you go? He just about left that back. He about to do that, that step back, and he go hit the game winner. And literally, bro, and like while we watching it,

Jeff watch, I'm back there like dick eating. Like watch, watch, watch, watch. Watch it like that. And literally, he learned about Luka Donchus. He hit the shot, looked at him. He's, I told you. We worked for the Celtics. I told you, I told you. I'm like, Celtics. I told you, I told you.

I was like, damn, that was fucking cold. We celebrated shit. Then I looked, I said, oh shit. I was like, JT, that's some bullshit. I'm like, man, we gonna be up. I quit after this shit anyway. Like, so we kinda knew. I'm like, man, like, just be worried about him.

But I thought that was a dope day because at the end of it, that was the first time anybody ever listened to it. Yeah, I swear. It was like April. Like, you know that's the first time anybody ever listening. Yeah I was like, yeah, he is cold. What made it so funny JT that's a shower guy. We go that's why I love ET We go and he was like Luca better than me. He was like damn near He was like, buddy my favorite player Crazy What? I was like, nah, hell nah. I'm going with Jesse. He was like, bro, he my favorite player. I said, yo, ET crazy, bro. My favorite player.

My daughter met Luca. What? What's up with you? What? What? What? ET friend? She dead, bro.

I said, bro, this dude is crazy. That's my favorite player. I'm like, man, like, Aubrey, you got to meet Luca. But it was your cousin. She was like, now that you go to the store, she like, I saw Uncle Jason on the back. Somebody asked, but yeah, that's him. But you got to meet Luca.

Remember that day with the death, that you got to meet Luca. But no funny shit, like Jason, that's one of my favorite players out there. Facts, bro. I gotta ask how it feels to see them, know what I'm saying, be victorious. Y'all know what I'm saying?

Y'all saw them early on, putting in the hard work hard work for them to win and y'all didn't know them for real. How did that feel to see them cross the line, man? I thought it was dope, man. You know, with Tatum, bro, he's such a good dude. So when you sit there, like when you talk to him, he listen. When I was young, bro, I wasn't listening to shit for real. So like when you talk to him, he really take advice.

He say, bro, you a good kid. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, when he taps back in and you talk to him, you really want people like that to win. You know what I'm saying? Even when you sit there and you build brotherhood, like Jet, my fault, Jeff won the championship and he FaceTimed us from a locker room. When you sit down, it's like, even when you look at club 520

and everything, like bro, I'd be turnt up for y'all because it'd be like, bro, it's dope to see good people winning. Big shades of silver. That's how we feel about you. That's why our group chat, when we be talking, I'd be just having a ball. I'd be telling them some of the stuff we talk about,

not everything, but some of the stuff that we'd be laughing and joking about. But JT, like you said, seeing him win and know how bad he wanted to win. We was like, yeah. But me and E.T., we like, hey man, like you said, to see him win and know how much he, like how bad he wanted to win. We was like, yeah. But me and E.T. we like, hey man, what he doing man? Like we was watching the finals, like hey man, he better stop playing.

You know me, I'm betting. Like, yeah. Yeah. I'm like, JT for real man, he gonna make me, he need to break some free throws, man. You know how serious, when we FaceTime, you know it's serious. Like, I'm like, bro, you see this? When they give you my man trophy, I'm like, bruh, you see this? When they give you my man Trophy away,

I'm like, how we feel? Like, I'm FaceTime, like, how we feel? You going out there? Like, what you think? Like, we literally, they say he not MVP? Yeah, what we doing, man? I was, I called, I said, my father, you with your wifey, I called, man, late, but like, you see this, right?

Like, I was about to say, I'm like, man, this nigga? I gotta talk to somebody. He said he's not MVP. What we doing? I said I don't know I said Jalen play good he said I'm not hearing that. So what that mean for our legacy? This is our year. This is our year. What the fuck? No, damn near though. Because when you think about that run, which is crazy, we talked about like, you look at Jordan 92, he had a crazy run of a championship MVP. Wap the BAM. Maybe Brian did it once or whatever. But like when you thought about it, how many times is it perfectly set up for somebody

to win a championship, go to Olympics and when it's coming to the change in the light the Titan. Yeah, it was. It was really set in prime. Even if you think about like the Sports Center, like Sports Illustrated, like article. Or like, shit, he dropped his Jordan 3 during the Olympics. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I'm like, shit, it just seemed like. That's why I was so mad about the Olympics. Yeah. Because it was like supposed to be a change in the guard. Yeah. And I just felt like it was supposed to be him. Cause it was all set up.

Even though it might be an AE, I don't know who it was really, but. But like, this is what made me so mad. That never happened to anybody else. Ever. You understand what I'm saying? I don't give a damn what you talking about. Like if I'm a star player, I know humility,

but like Derrick White, Drew, y'all better say y'all ain't playing. Until I get into this motherfucker. Because it's not really, the world ain't playing. Until I get into this motherfucker. Because the world ain't right. The world already fucked up. It's like they try to dim his light on purpose and they're just like, oh, he's taking it in stride. He's such a good put. Like, nah, he should have crashed out.

Yeah, bro. And that was the first time I felt like, like they went crazy on a light skin. G, I felt like they just targeted, bro. If you think about it, I felt like you were something deeper, pausing, just like rotation. How you say I can't hoop? Like, give me 11 minutes. Yeah, he was supposed to be in the rotation,

but like bro said, Jeff made a great point. Like, maybe he come back, like... Ah, he gonna come back. Fool's story. Steve, Steve, uh, he quit before they fired him. They said this was his last. Oh he knew. We just had him last summer.

I was mad when he showed up to the living room. I saw what you did last summer with this thing. You out of pocket. They was like you gotta go bro, we need JT for this. He knew. Gray Hill on his way out too, he keep trolling. They gonna holler at Gray Hill too. Yeah cause the fact, y because the fact shot, man.

Y'all know this nigga man. Halliburton. Y'all know Halliburton. DJ. Yeah, DJ. The fact, for instance, they didn't have like, damn. On Team USA, shot out the Halliburton, but they didn't have Kyrie.

Come on, my G. Two little cold dudes, and they let the killers be like, I don't know G, like that was crazy bro. Hey when he said we might consider Jalen Brown for 2020, I said oh he's out of pocket. Oh D out of pocket. That's disrespectful. He's true.

He's definitely true. And then I'm just like 31, like by the time I get to that age they're gonna be super rich, I'm like bro I'm gonna start my own country. It's a confidence bro. How about that?, bro, I'm gonna start my own country. It's a good place, bro. How about that? I told y'all. New player, hop it up.

Meet new country, hop it up. Very nice. I'm playing for Sudan, next year, 28. Who are you from? I'm from Sudan. You're from the United States. Reversible. Lou, holla at me, bro.

Holla at me, bro. Holla at me, Lou. Who was at me, bro. Holla at me, Lou. Who was the best player you ever played with? Mmm. Shit. Bro, it's a... It's so different. I think pound for pound. Damn, Dane was cold.

But Isaiah Thomas, because when you break it down, bro... Niggas, you would be like in practice, you see Brad talking to him and he'd be looking up And you'd be like, bro, this is our best player You know what I mean? Like he's the shortest dude on the huddle heat, like 5'8 This is the lead dog, but like literally, bro, the stuff I saw him do night in night out like how talented he was but um One thing that occurred that uh, I think that I always say like that little fucker always worked Like I'm talking about work, work, work, show up at the gym seven, eight, even now, still working.

And I always thought, how you hoop, but the fire in his eyes or something I had never really seen. I thought PG was pretty cold to be, when we were young. He was like, he's still cold, don't get it twisted, but the stuff he did with Indy when I played with him for the couple months, pause, he was 22 years old,

driving 40 in an old school playoffs, bro. That, like, why they, sports are still a hundred type shit. And then, shit man, Drew Hade was cold. Cold. Drew Hade was like, to be honest with you, because everybody I just mentioned, like head to head, Drew, I think Drew was probably like the best I ever played with. Yeah.

Man, you talk about your cup of coffee with the Pacers, man. What happened? What was that team like? I killed them. You was cold. You were cold. You want to know what happened? What was that team like? I killed them. But you was coach. You was coach. You want to know what happened? This is what people be forgetting too.

I don't know. I just got there late. So like this was wild. But I think one thing that happened, you got to understand too, like, and Jeff, correct me if I'm wrong, before all star dudes go super hard. Once all stars over and dudes kind of get their accolades, they kind of turn off a bit. So like, when we were sitting there,

we were already kind of taking L's, we were taking adjustments. But then I think what came down to it was like with team and competitiveness, I just said, you bring me in, like, of course ears are going to perk up. Like you got two dudes trying to sign contracts, Lance Stevenson was head of me.

You had Paul George, George Hill, arguably, you could sit there and be like, George would be like, damn, he might take my spot. And Lance might be like, he might take my spot, and such and such, and we'll have to bend it. I come in, you know my personality, talking shit, ornery, you know what I mean?

Like joking, like poking a bear. Like I just, you know what I'm saying? Just know what's going on, but having fun with it. And I think aside from that, I think the chemistry is one thing, but like bro, we weren't good enough to beat the heat. Like when people are asking that dumb ass question and we cut rotations, so like y'all gotta shout Roy Hibbert because I think he was unbelievable in George Hill too.

Dope dudes. Roy was averaging six and six, bro. And shout out to like Frank Vogel because I wasn't mad. I'm like, yo, roll with your killers, but like he's killing us. Like church shit. But like, and this is not Roy Hibbert, like, slander, because Roy Hibbert don't get enough credit for what he's done. His defensive abilities are special.

Yeah, but like, bro, he's a real awesome, bro. So when he tried to cloud him, like, it wasn't, like, nothing. You know, George Hill, I think, he had something like, when we were playing our main go-to guys, I don't think we had enough firepower when we cut the rotation down to seven. Come on, brother, you had me on the bench. Not me now, in 2014, y'all, I was like, so.

It was nice, not our now. CJ Watson, you had Luis Scola that was doing. Fraser Ramon. Yeah, he was cutting rotations. I just think you're not taking out Braun and all them without having a new scheme. But bro, we weren't being the Hitos, bro. And I just, I thought that was a great starting five,

but everybody has to perform and play at a high level. And we only had three people playing at a high level. And you can't, and there are three with who? Yeah. And then when you break it there's three with who? Yeah. And then when you break it down, like after that, you know, me and Lance, y'all probably, we had talked about this. Me and Lance had gotten into it.

And what was so funny with that was, me and Lance hung out every day. We sat next to each other on, yeah, we sat next to each other on the plane. Like me and him would go out together, like together. And I remember we were going through like a walkthrough and just like young dudes, you can instigate some shit. Andrew Bynum is sitting on the sideline.

Andrew Bynum was a pace up. Yes, Andrew Bynum sitting on the sideline. And I guess we like going through walkthroughs so me and Lance are kind of like playing around and like I think something happened where he's trying to go for real and like I think I might have stopped him and like I think Coach yelled. There's something weird. It's like a weird moment. So then like Andrew's like, ooh, he stopped that. Like and Lance like like, man, come on, brother, this thing ain't got the type of heart I got. Like, look, look, look, little, but Lance,

if you know his personality, that's how he talks. So, you know what I'm saying? And like, you know, I didn't really kind of take it like, OD, because like at the same time, I was like, come on, brother, this thing is bugging, this is lame. But you know what I mean, like you bugging. So like we go through it again, and I think I did the same thing again kind of like slapped

it, stomped it or whatever and we kind of like a little tussling a little bit and I think I kind of like slapped something again so when I turn around he's like don't do that shit no more. So like when he put his finger in my face, swipe, swipe, we grab each other's throat, scratch me. I got like duper scratch, not like little scratched, like duper scratched. I remember that.

Yeah, so then we get off the court and then it got broken up or whatever. And then, shit, that was it. That literally was like the whole moment of the playoffs and this use and so like, that's what ruined us. It's like now we was ass prior. And Lance was like really, like that was my man.

Like, you know, as little kids, when you're younger, you fight over a box of cereal. Like off the principality of it. And I thought that was pretty much it. And just like a little bit of shout out to Indiana, but like a fan base that wasn't realistic. Like. Lord Jesus.

God, man. Delusion. Am I wrong for saying that? Hell no. Is that the answer I was looking for? I was mad at the fans right at that time because Larry kept drafting white people so I didn't really care. We needed to retool, he got plumbly. I was like, alright, I'm calling these niggas right now. But as local fans, how hard did we jag that? Considering, because y'all probably really thought we had a chance to win.

Y'all were supposed to lose to us. We was up game. Y'all was in Atlanta game six down three two. Oh, you are right. Bro, who got hot that game? For David West hitting shit off the backboard. Yeah, but the one big foreign dude. Oh, Perro. Yeah, he's like-

That's the reason. He's like the Serbian version of Ivan Johnson. Yeah. Man, he's Serbian Ivan Johnson like a Serbian version of Ivan Johnson That's why payroll could apply me a hibra can play no more put payroll there you shooting out on three shooting What's your thought? We're going to chip that you know? What is your I did keep it real with your life man? I have an old bitch ass and came out here and fucked up the team like because literally that's all I ever heard after that My bro, I literally shot four times and gave him an average of seven.

What made it so funny, it was being around and knowing some of the other team, no, you weren't the problem. There was problems with you fucking. And I knew that, but like. But they just blamed you because they tried to Danny. That's the only thing. You just got slacked because they tried to Danny.

And Danny averaged like six, I averaged seven. You wanna know what made me so mad? I shot 50% from the three with the Pacers. I ain't never done that 50% a guy so after that I never shot a three again. And, um. You was just a bad fit, ET. I was a bad fit, but like that time it hit me with a doozy. Like I said, I was supposed to have an $8.7 million

signing bonus. Damn. My dumb ass trying to be private for my man. Fuck this team, y'all keep the playoff money. So I gave up a quarter million. Woo. Man, find me a new team. Like, all right, It's a qualifying bonus.

And then what about the next year? Who was Marcus Jordan? I bought a Ferrari that same week. Like, you know what I mean? That was wild. That was wild. That was wild. He lost treatment.

I'm saying somebody that hasn't bought a Ferrari, like, I guess I didn't comprehend how serious it was. And like, obviously that's it. What? Yeah, so then that free agency comes out and like July 1st, like my phone ain't ring. Then we get all the way to like, like shit, like August, Mitch Kupchak called me

and he's like, what do you do? And I'm like, I guess I dribble, I attack, I shoot. Like, that's- What the fuck, bitch? He's like, you know, that's what Kobe do. So I'm kind of like, man, that's what Kobe do. So I'm kind of like, man, how you ass do what Kobe do? Like, bro, you're-

Don't call me and ask me what I do. That's crazy. And I'm like, with all due respect, Mitch, I'm not saying I'm the best, but y'all been lost. Y'all like, owing forever the past three years. Now, I averaged like 25, like, to offer me a quarter. I'd get it off the block and stuff like shit, like.

So. That was it, fuck it up, bro. quarter I get off the block and honestly I was never like that seriously like might as well throw my life away and get it off the block that's not being like that's ignorantly speaking and But that's how I thought at the time. And luckily, shout out to Brad Stevens. He's like, bruh, I can't let people see you like that. I don't know what change he found, but he gave me a little bit of money to help me. And like, no joke, help me get my career back. Because even when I left that situation with the Pacers, you got to think, I went from like the Sixers of like, I was supposed to be like a megastar,

and then I wasn't, and then shit just hit the ground. And you know, you go to a real point where, Jeff, you were late, are you going overseas, or are you going to play and stay and fight? So, that was some real ass shit. Like, we laugh about it, but you know, I joke about it, but it was some real stuff, and you know, obviously it didn't stay dark forever.

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We is all mid except for one dude. One person get hot like every five, IT average 30, I eat my little 10, and then every blue moon I go get 17 and you gonna hear about it. Jeff and Jimmy like 20 every game I have 17. Yeah, little niggas. Yeah, they had Avery Bradley talk, he never even talk. Yeah, but like that was like,

and if you think about it, that's like the real first time I'll tell you I really jumped out my shell for real cuz like around that time. I was kind of like I Was still on a porch regards to like marketing wise yeah, Brandon so like you know that was the real time I was like man. I'm just gonna be on my be forget like trying to be perfect It's like that shit ain't worked and And legit shit, we, I really jumped off the porch. Sundays, man, Sundays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, before or after, that flow is a hobby.

You know what I mean? But like not jump off the porch on no weird stuff, but it's like that comradery and that team shit, it was like, bro, I realized it took more and not saying like partying, but it took more to really like build relationships and what really makes a great team and atmosphere. Like, shit, we were seventh in the East, bro,

but you couldn't tell us like Tom Brady is walking the city and we swore we had the streets on watch. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we go to clubs, I would be on the microphone. Shoutin' out niggas, that was gettin' 10 minutes of gas. So, I'm like, nigga, Jordan, Mickey, on the microphone. Sean outnigs us in 10 minutes. Jordan bro, we had a crack in every game y'all ain't want to play. So Thanksgiving,

the night before Thanksgiving, all stars, second nights of back to me. But that's the only reason why we got the 45 wins we was like a 20 win talent we just tried I go like I did you know it's like damn these niggas is good bro IT was so different bro different bro where you rank him where do you like at that time he was the toughest cover for me like With Brad Stevens often so he bucked bro. He was the toughest bro. Everything ran through him But he didn't had a ball the whole time. Yeah, like I used to run that little for

Where we got called for snap? I think and Kelly O'Lennon had to be the same Bro, Kelly O'Lennon was throwing that motherfucking shit balls. But I'm like, yo, this shit is, wow, he was nice. ET, I mean, IT was cold, bro. I ain't gonna lie, he was a tough cover. And he got fouled so much. Hell yeah. He went to the line like a motherfucker.

What about with D-Rose shit? Oh, nah, D-Rose. Like, I'm talking about that time IT was a tough cover. All the time it's D-Rose, bro Oh no, D-Rose. Like I'm talking about that time, my team was a tough cover. All time is D-Rose, bro. Seriously? Nothing you can do. Bro, you can bag all the way up in the paint. You can sit on the dots, bro.

He will run at you, just jump over you. You're like, what the fuck? So then if you get close, he run right by you. You get medium, he cross you. I'm like, bro, I can't guard this fool, man. That's why I tell y'all, every highlight, if you go look look when he run that MVP here I probably own 50% of them bro. They look different color jerseys with that motherfucking no scalp

What was it like Wasn't like playing with Joe Johnson G Pause cold man. He probably I tell's probably the most skilled player I played with. Cause his handle, he could shoot, float or post up. He ain't really had no L in his game. He could play defense. Only thing he couldn't do, he wasn't that athletic, but he could score with the best of him.

He was really like that. And what was y'all favorite era of Teague, overall? I don't get this nigga started. Which one? No, because it's dope that you're here now, as friends that went on a journey with him growing up. It's like, shit, y'all met, and how long y'all known each other? I've been known as Niggas since high school.

That's what I'm saying. So when you think about it, it's like, damn, we really. Well, this nigga probably went right before he made the All-Star and through like right that year before that's when I really started going to the A heavily yeah he was he was a different player for sure to me to me. For sure I'll probably say them first two years in Minnesota for sure. When y'all started in the streets of Indy and going back to the locals and being like,

yo, my nigga Jeff better than Mike Conley. Cause I know that was a thing. Cause that had to be like, did y'all ever go back and be like, yo, let's talk about it. It was really EJ or nothing. Like even as good as Mike was, EJ was god.

Even at their head. And what he did to Derrick Rose in high school was crazy. He did to Jordan kids, bro That's why Marcus is on there, bro The order story is they bogus because he wasn't supposed to be up in there and they knew that that was our like that was our like Bro, it was like the 19th best team on earth And he got a ESPN game, but that was just our it was y'all to being cool

But he already played ranked players Yeah, like the Jordan coming to the building. They got air Gordon. It was bigger than what you think It was a whole production Air Gordon Put on but like you said you wouldn't it wasn't time He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50.

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He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. He was 50. But I forgot his name, the other Jordan, not the fried one, the oldest one. He had an offer from Illinois. Jeff Jordan. Jeff my guy. But they was both Illinois kids at the time. So that was a dual match. So what's so funny is, and I get up out here for that, Eric Gordon was, he was committed to Illinois.

So during that time, I was supposed to commit and D-Rose was supposed to Illinois. So during that time, I was supposed to commit and D-Rose was supposed to commit. So I remember sitting there and being like, all right bro, we might have pause, have a three headed monster, but D-Rose wanna commit. And I'm telling them like, yo, I'll wait until Derek commits.

But it just never happened. And I feel like that was like one of the real reasons pushed me to Ohio State too because damn E Gordon started uh he decommitted Took his ass home to Indiana, which is very very smart cuz that made no goddamn sense Yeah, and then uh sure that was it man. Y'all homie a hoop there Devon doing this. Shout out to Domo Yeah, y'all have been cool though. Get him on the pot. Y that would have been cool at Illinois. Yeah, that's my guy. Yeah, that's a little bit like that for sure.

Yeah, you already know. That would have been crazy. You D-Rose, Eric Gordon, that would have been hard, bro. Yeah, I probably wouldn't have made it. You think y'all would have been better than Luther Head, Darren Williams, and what's my boy? Yeah, I discriminate against people under 16. So I'd be like, don't ask me.

Don't ask me if I'm. Oh, you one of those. No, I'm saying I'm 6'7". So when you be like, don't ask me. Don't ask me about- You one of those. I kept saying I'm 6'7". So when you sit there, I think like any- I'm talking about a career though. College career. They had- Oh, they done ran Illinois up.

They rose into the final four. The championship game is damn self. Eric Gordon averaged 27th. They was career. I probably would have been on the bench for up. This is crazy. I'm being dead serious, bro. You in the bench for up. This is the most crazy. I'm getting dead serious bro. You in a play bro. You six seven bro.

I thought you had the four bro. Yeah, nah. This college bro. That kills my confidence. Big 10. If I didn't get the ball it would have killed my confidence. The first stretch four bro. If you want a star, play him like a star. You want to play him like a bum, you're going to get that.

When I'm in the studio six shots, I say bro stop talking to me. I'm like I got six shots. I know you we gotta get out of here, but you get the big deal from Portland after your good years in Boston, you do your thing, you come back, you bounce back, now you get the big deal from Portland. What's that like, bro? Man, that was, man, you know what it's like to get some money from that shit? That was the first time I really like, damn,

like you know what I mean? Like, so I remember going to sleep, because you remember, I just told you two years before they did, me dirty. So I'm like, no, I just know my free agency is gonna be how it's gonna be. So I remember I'm like waking up, I talked to my agent at night before it starts, pause,

and I legit, he's like, we should be straight, we'll have some dope stuff going. We gonna start at like 50. I'm like, oh, that's perfect. Like be straight. We'll have some dope stuff going like we gonna start at like 50 I'm like, oh, that's perfect. Like y'all do 50 and I just remember like Going to sleep and waking up in the middle of a name being my brother They give me 50 million dollars. I'm gonna be mad and I'm about to fuck it But you know me like in my head cuz like I had to make up for the last one Yeah, but I also say no, I just be grateful

So then like when I wake up, my agent calls me and say, y'all, I got a deal for you. And I'm like, what is it? He's like, from Portland. I'm like, okay. I talked to Dane right before that. It's like, I'm like, well, what is it? He's like, it's a four year deal for like 70. So I'm like 17. And he's like, no, like, 70. And I'm like, Oh my god, you know, so then I call my mom and I'm like, yo, man, I'm gonna sign a Portland and I'm gonna get like, I'm gonna sign a Portland for four years, 70 million. She's like 17. I'm like, no, like seven and a D. I know like seven and a D. And my mom was like,

Oh bitch. She was like, that was crazy. That's what I'm saying. And she's like, Oh my God. And I'm like, yeah. So like I'm next. I was supposed to go to Portland like the fifth. So like I felt like lottery ticket. Like I was trying not to die.

I'm like, So everybody's like, first we're going to get you up here to a press conference. I'm like, I'm like, so everybody's like, first we're gonna get you up here to a press conference. I'm like, wait, like today? They're like, no, like the fifth. I'm like, no, I can come. Like, we don't need to do no, I was like, bro, I don't need none of that shit.

Like, let's go get this deal and like call it a day. But I think like, you know, one thing that occurred that was like pretty cool besides like the money factor was which was cool was going to the West I had so much respect for the teams in the West because I've been in the East for so long I just remember being like damn like this is definitely going to be tougher But um, you know as a team like go, you know, I was able to go to Western Conference finals for the first time We had two 50 year win seasons. Mm-hmm. And I thought like shit like um We were able to adapt

and do some dope stuff. Granted, I mean, Dame did it as damn self, but I mean, I was still enjoying myself and having fun, but I think that that part was just a unique time to try to figure out new ways to play the game and open up your role. But at the same time, we had like, second best back corner NBA, and it was- Facts. had like, you know, the second best backcourt in the NBA.

And it was... Facts. That was, you know, that's a fun time to watch, fun time to be around. But, you know, I think personally, I kind of saw the writing on the wall. I don't know about you, Jeff, but like sometimes you just get tired of like,

like always adjusting, bruh. You know what I mean? Like, and sometimes it wasn't bad, but at one point I was like, nah, like, I keep adjusting my adjusting, bro. You know what I mean? And sometimes it wasn't bad, but at one point, I was like, nah, I keep adjusting my role, adjusting my role to the point where it was like, kind of like null and void, which wasn't like terrible, but it was also at the same time, how else can I make an impact here unless,

you know what I mean, unless I'm able to play heavy or get to that, be able to be in those final minutes. And that was kind of where I knew to myself, moving on from there, I always just said, like, yo, I'm not going to go overseas until second contract stop coming. I'll chalk it up like a man and just be like, yo, it's over, you know what I'm saying?

And the same way I was able to take like a 30 year old spot when I was 22, I'm like, that's just a game. And I just knew like, shit, that's a sign game. And I just knew like shit. That's a sign and once I'm trading me like three times in a year, man, that shit dead ain't gonna keep playing with me. Or that 10 days, you mean like go somewhere for 10 days. It did not play to even show you how you nail right now, bro. Y'all can kiss my ass.

And one thing, you know, I'm I'm like, nah, bro, y'all can kiss my ass. I'm rolling. You know what I mean? Like, besides that, and one thing, you know, I'm grateful for, like, the league and everything, but I was definitely ready to start the new chapter and comprehend, like, yo, it's been a hell of a run. But, you know, Portland was cool. Portland was a fun time, and it was some great runs and great battles. And, um, but, you know, it was damn. People say I played 10.

I'm like, bro, I played 8. Like, you know, it's damn people say I played 10. I'm like bro. I played eight Like you know i'm saying it wasn't in a sense of like nothing bad, but you know just the time time had changed Yeah, for sure man, but you stuck around but listen man AT we gotta do this again, man. You fell in me at a show. You ain't even a guest But if that's a fact, you want to check my man's out. I got a high at the point for a poc man Tell the people they need to tap into bro. You already know man I gotta hide the point for a pod man. Tell people they need to tap into bro You already know man first off follow me I haven't turned on Instagram and LinkedIn or wherever you get, you know, I should know is crazy

Yeah, you know, you know I get down on Twitter It's the kitty T the only one and then and shit if you listen to point forward It's a normal way you spell it P O I N T F O R W A R D spell it P O I N T F O R W A R D cause niggas can't spell. And then the last but not least y'all like this pause. Y'all be kicking it like it's dope, it's dope, it's dope. Like subscribe cause that's how you can help me out. You dead ass. All right. Or else I'm gonna have to go back to work.

Ain't taught y'all how to go to that quarter mill. Oh that's it. Nah, but for real bro, I appreciate y'all having me on. And what y'all is doing is dope. And like, Jeff, you're the coolest dude I ever met. Nah, I'm a dog, man. Nah, I'm just glad you found your lane. And like, people can really see how bright of a personality,

how special a dude you are in a nine crazy way. But like, shit, you know, I thought you was like cold at whooping, but like, bro, you funny as fuck. So what you able to do and like, with your, your homies are able to really jump on pause. I appreciate what y'all niggas doing. Love gang. We appreciate it, bro.

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