Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jayson Tatum on Celtics 2024 title vs. Mavs, NBA 2K25 cover, Jeff Teague as teammate

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 4 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Boston Celtics superstar Jayson Tatum. JT talks AAU basketball, choosing to play his college basketball ...at Duke, and what happened in the lead up to the NBA Draft that saw him get picked No. 3 by the Boston Celtics behind Lonzo Ball and Markelle Fultz. Plus, Tatum talks about being on the new NBA 2K25 video game cover and putting out a new edition of his signature shoe. And don't miss Jayson talk about being teammates with Jeff Teague in Boston, his battles with Evan Turner, and so much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. Ali was smart and he was handsome. The story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, B.B. King, Miriam Makeba.
Starting point is 00:00:17 All the biggest slack artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the I heart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast I'm Julian Edelman I'm Rob Gronkowski and we are super excited to tell you about our new show dudes on dudes We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars.
Starting point is 00:00:53 We're finally answering the age-old question, what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're gonna find out, Jules! New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season listen to dudes on dudes on the I heart radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager We're back for the season with Peter Schrager in each episode of the season I'm gonna empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL Franchises you see you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.
Starting point is 00:01:32 By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Music is awesome. Incredible. It's very good. It's making like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy, I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:01:48 But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL, life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brantz. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke? You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:02:08 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The Volume. All right, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host, my name is DJ Wells. Special, special guest in the building. Championship edition to my left, we gonna introduce my man's last, but to my far left, we got my dog,
Starting point is 00:02:33 Bishop B, handing out the Prillies. How you what, nasty? Cool and nasty, let's get to it. Look, JT, I know, you know what I'm saying? You got your own shoe. But have you ever seen the Black Forces with the white laces? Yeah, I seen a pod a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:02:45 You rocking with them? I mean, it's cool. JT, DJ introduced the other niggas. I ain't gonna do that. I don't like his energy. To my right, I got my dawg, your nacho, your tig. How you doing, man? I'm chilling, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:01 I got my Jordans on, some sixes for Team Jordan today. We got some Team Jordan in the building. But you know, I'm chilling bro. I got my Jordans on some sixes for team Jordan today. We got some team Jordan to build, but you know, I'm an anti-athlete. They do not want you. Biggest shout out to Kyle man. Shout out to love man. I'm gonna say since when? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Respect to the brand. You crazy, but to my left, the man who actually has the shoe, listen man, champion, champion, champion, wanted the coldest to ever do it. Youngest killing the NBA. They never accomplished everything you could do at a younger age.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You still got more to build. Man, we got the champion, Jason Tatum in the building. Appreciate you pulling up, big dog. No, I appreciate y'all for having me. He finally can say he champ like me. I'm high for you, my boy. Nah, there you did do it first, Ray J. I did it first, bro, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:45 You called him Ray J? Anything but Ray J, but nah. Better than your cousin, Ray J. He Ray J me. Wait, well he got the champ here, man. I'm hyped, bro, cause this is my bro, man. He cool. We got a Midwest group chat.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We always show love in there, so I'm hyped to have him on the show, bro. Hey man, shout out to the game. Listen, we got lots to talk about with you. We're gonna talk about the first time y'all met, man. When y'all first linked up in Boston, you came to save the Celtics, man we got lots to talk about with you. We'll talk about the first time y'all met, man. When y'all first linked up in Boston, you came to save the Celtics, man? I came to save them, man.
Starting point is 00:04:09 You know what I mean? The whole head start lying. You know what I mean? Thank you, JT. Does that nigga be lying like a motherfucker? He had my jersey number first, but I let him keep it. So I had to go 55. You know, I was originally zero.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Did you ask for it? What, 55? No, fuck no. Did you ask for your jersey? Zero. I said, fuck no. Did you ask for your jersey, Zero? I said, is it available? No, you did not. I said, is it available? No, I ain't asked for it.
Starting point is 00:04:35 I respected what he did, but I ain't know I was gonna lose my name in the process, but it's all good. The real JT. Yeah, I lost my number and my name was crazy. I didn't even have no identity out there. That's crazy. So this is my whole identity, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It's crazy. It's cool though. Man, that's funny. Listen, now we're gonna start with the orders up here. He's super tapped in, you know what I'm saying? With the high schooler at AU. He was definitely on one of the close AU teams for sure. Yeah, it was at the St. Louis Eagles.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, bro, you gave boys hell back in the day. Any memorable matchups you had back then? So I know you led the EYBL in scoring. He was gunning. 26 and I think 10. 26 and 10 like. I think for me, I mean, it's like everybody, we all grew up playing against guys that's in the league now,
Starting point is 00:05:25 like Harry Giles, one of my best friends. We played against each other all the time. We got one of the best, AAU games, I feel like, of all time, we played on ESPN semi-finals to go to Peace Jam. And we was down 20 and a half, we came back, and my point guard, Jordan Barnes, who went to Indiana State,
Starting point is 00:05:46 he was playing overseas and I, he had a half court shot at the buzzer. And that was, it was crazy cause, you know, HG was number one player in the country, playing against the best team to go to the finals. And I committed to Duke on TV right after that game. Grant Williams was out there, Johnson Cochran was out there. Yeah, I remember that game.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It was like five or six pros out there. Oh, Johnson's on that game. I'm thinking I'll never talk about that game. It was like five or six pros out there and we was at Peach Jam. CP was on the bench coaching. So that's like one of my favorite AAU games I've ever been a part of. You gave boys buckets. You gave Miles Bridges 40. Markel Foles 40.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Damn, I forgot who the other name was in high school. I think it was your senior year, you went crazy. I mean, I've been all right for a while. I seen a highlight when you and Jalen Brunson was going at it in high school. So I ain't gonna lie, Jalen Brunson, he gave us 50. We played in West Virginia. I was a junior, he was a senior.
Starting point is 00:06:44 And that was one of the times I left. I was like, no, we got cooked. But we ended up winning the game, but it's just cool to look back on those matchups. It's like, man, people think Jalen Brunson may be a late bloomer, but he like been killing since. He's in high school. Even in the USA, like the U-19 team,
Starting point is 00:07:04 like he was going crazy. No, he wasn't on my team. He wasn't on your team? What year after that? Oh, U-19, yeah. Not 2019. U-19, yeah. He won MVP. Yeah, he was killing.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So he was in, we tapped in, you see our facts, we get you, we'll straighten you out now. Paul. That was crazy. That was crazy. That was crazy. He was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:07:25 It was like three of us was still I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, being from St. Louis and being a star high school player. Why you choose Duke? I know Emil here in Duke, he was at Duke for 20 years. But why you choose Duke? Dave, I'm calling a shot.
Starting point is 00:07:55 That's my new big 13. My fault, my fault. He my new big 13. Is that Shailo? Yeah, he shot him. Yeah, I'm talking. Respect, Lord. My fault. He's about to do big 13. Is that Shailo? Yeah, he's Shailo. Yeah, I'm talking. Respect, Lord. My fault.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He a legend at Duke. For sure. No, Mill, Mill a legend at Duke. Shout out to Mill. For sure, man. To be honest, man, growing up, I never thought that I was going to Duke. I just didn't think people where I came from went to Duke.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I didn't think that Coach K would come to to Duke. I didn't think like that Coach K would come to my crib. I wanted to go to Ohio State. Greg Oden, Mike Conley, Evan Turner, those was my favorite players in college. So I thought that's where like I was going. You didn't watch Wake Forest? Never. Oh gosh, make sure.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Shout out to CP though. But. Oh you about to. CP! That's what you said. I did watch it. I did watch it. Shut up and see Pete over there. You a motherfucker. He probably out of the day. I did what I did. I've been watching Luca this season. It's all good. And I was just.
Starting point is 00:08:54 All right. That's what we're gonna do. I think it's all good today. I'm gonna trade life. Oh man, y'all are crazy. Obviously you said high school people were going crazy and ended up going to Duke. What was that transition like? you know what I'm saying? Cause obviously, Holly talked to me in high school, you get to Duke, Duke is a place,
Starting point is 00:09:10 it's like none other tradition. It's very important, you got a Hall of Fame coach and institution that's more than any player. You to come in, like it's humble to be in that situation. How was that? You know, they always say like, when you went, that's the first big decision you make as a young man.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And for me, I only took one official visit. Like I took one official visit and I got there on like Friday morning. By Saturday, I remember I was at the bookstore with my mom, like, yo, like we need to start buying hoodies. Like I'm coming to Duke. Damn, I just felt the vibe of the team, how they felt about coach and how they talked about them
Starting point is 00:09:44 and how close they was. I was like, man, I don't want to waste no time with going to no other visits. I was like, man, I want to go to Duke. So that was like one of the best decisions I ever could have made. Some of my best friends I ever met from Duke. Shout out to John Shire, that's somebody
Starting point is 00:10:01 I talk to every other day still. And you know, we always talk about the brotherhood and that's a real thing. Regardless of if you ever played with them or if they was there 25 years before you, it's always love whenever you see anybody that had that uniform. And I just wanted to be a part of something
Starting point is 00:10:17 that was bigger than myself. And knowing that I was only gonna go to college for one year. Damn, you knew that. That's a blessing, boy. Yeah, I did, I knew that. I wanted to be somewhere that was gonna set me up for the big stage, right?
Starting point is 00:10:34 You go to Duke, that's the best, no disrespect to nobody else, but that's the best, one of the best college programs, right, we always on national TV, the expectations is high. Media training, all those things are just preparing you for the next level. And I was gonna ask like, you know what I'm saying? I know that that's lit, but what was that experience like the first time playing in Cameron and Dorr? Like, what was that first? Because they, y'all fans crazy as hell.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah. So I mean, a lot of people don't know I got hurt in our second pro day. So we had our second pro day, I ended up, I had like a little stress fracture in my toe and I missed our first 12 games. So. I remember that. I, my first time playing, I think we played like Tennessee State at home and it wasn't no load management, no mini restriction.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I played like 22 minutes straight. I caught a cramp. So my first game was a little up and down. But no, we got the best fans. A lot of people when they come to Duke, they don't understand it like, this is the gym. Like it's so small, they won't pass. They think that's where we practice at.
Starting point is 00:11:35 It's only like 5,000, 6,000 people in there, but they definitely support and the energy is crazy. And it's bittersweet. Like I only got to experience that for one year, but it definitely was a great experience. How was it playing for coach, I'm about to say coach Cal, Mike Shesky, they had a cow in my dog. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:11:56 You know. Prick low head, thinking about that money. Family, you know what I mean. Shout out to the gang. Now how was that playing for coach K though, bro? I heard he got in your ass a couple times. Hey yo, crazy. All right, Jason.
Starting point is 00:12:09 He called him Jason over here. Get out of here, lost my man. He ain't Jason, he Jason over here. All right. Playing for Coach K was great. I mean, the thing I respect most about Coach is he's a leader of men and he really understands how to galvanize a team and how to get you to really compete and play hard.
Starting point is 00:12:33 And I think that's the biggest thing for kids that's coming out of high school. Everybody's talented, but how can you work well with a team? How do you learn how to compete? How do you learn how to get outside yourself, get outside your comfort zone? I think Coach K was great at motivating and he wanted the best for me. Like he wanted me to be the best for I could be. He wanted me to be one and done. He wanted me to go be where I'm at. And I think that was important and that was special because you hear a lot of stories of coaches that like want to hold guys back, want to keep them. Coach K like, he pushes
Starting point is 00:13:03 you to be the best version of yourself. And that's something, Coach K text me today, even at 77, he still tap in and we talk all the time. Did he ever troll you just to get you to play better or did he have his little antics with you? No, he definitely was a master manipulator. I mean, we was playing Virginia, Virginia, we was playing half Virginia. And it was the best game I had in college at the time.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I had two points at halftime, but we was winning. I thought I was playing defense. I came at halftime, I'm dappin' everybody up. I'm like, yo, like, you know, let's keep it going. We gonna win, like keep playing it right way. No lie. I'm sitting next to Mill. Coach K came in. I'm like, I'm leaning forward. I'm like, yo, like, let's go. Came in and took his jacket off. And he threw it at me. He was like, you soft ass
Starting point is 00:13:58 St. Louis kid. He said, if I knew you was gonna play like this, I would have left you back in St. Louis. Damn. I'm talking about he cuts me out the whole 12 minutes and like mills, he could tell, I don't get mad. Like, I don't like nobody call me soft and I don't want nobody disrespect where I'm from. Yeah, that's how Nelly talk to Murphy Lee. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:14:18 That's his cousin. My man, Joe. You don't rely on a bro, my cousin. Nelly is true. That's a hell. Look at my face, yo. You don't rely on a bra, my cousin. Nellie, it's true. That's a hell of a career. You don't rely on a bra. I can't believe my kid far away from like that. Oh man, they finished the story, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I just had to play at your back, bro. But I think Coach was just good at like, he knew how to push your buttons. And I scored 28 points in the second half because I was just angry. And at the time I didn't understand, but after I realized like, he just knew how to coach certain players.
Starting point is 00:14:48 He was excellent at that. That's hard. 28 points in the second half. You know, you ain't getting no shots. He ain't talking to the bill. You ain't getting no shots, bro. It's all good though. I've been there.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I've been there. Chill, my man ain't got no mic. He can't get no mic. I know the feeling, bro. I played on the Celtics for a while. I've been there. My man ain't got no mic. He can't hear me. I'm just saying, I've been there. I know the feeling, bro. I played on the Celtics, bro. I've been there. I've been there. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Oh, man. Hey, it was a different time in my life. All right. For sure, man. It's funny, you know what I'm saying? The ACC, People's Guard is the best conference, basketball, you was in there, you in there? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Salute to you, but I definitely hated you at the time period because I'm a Louisville fan and we did not have a chance to get y'all. One of the worst times of my life during that period because every co-player was going to Duke and we didn't have a chance at all. Nah, Duke is a tough place to play.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I mean, I killed, but it was a tough place to play though. What you do with Cameron and Dior? Probably like 26. A year in school. Dang, I ain't got one and done, all right, I had two. I had two, I was all right. They're talking, they're asking questions. They don't want to and done, all right, I had two. I had two, I was already. He's talking, he's asking questions. He trying to be funny, he know I did two years, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Trying to be funny. I couldn't be one and done. What you have against Lake Forest, you remember? He ain't getting no buckets, we locked that up. I ain't play good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, we ain't going, bro. Yeah, we ain't going.
Starting point is 00:16:04 We going to that stupid ass motorcycle. Yeah, Coach K when we played him. We blew the smoke at Coach K, right? And he started coughing before the game. Don't call in ACC and tell them that we can't do the motorcycle no more. We beat them that game anyway, but I had 26 as a friend. Motorcycle on the basketball court. What y'all do?
Starting point is 00:16:23 And y'all probably only do that when y'all play Duke. I had 26 and we beat him. I ain't care. That's the problem. Everybody pull out their best tricks when Duke come to town. That was every game. I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:16:33 I was like, wait for it. When I got to your team, leg was gone. I ain't no more bounce, they had none of that. Who was the hardest ACC team you faced against though? Wait for it. Stop. I know he ain in none of that. Who was the hardest ACC team you faced against though? Wait for it. Stop.
Starting point is 00:16:46 I know he ain't gonna say that. Honestly, North Carolina, they won the championship that year. Yeah, I just watched the game. They won a year or two? They won it when I was in school too. They had Joe Berry, Justin Jackson, ACC played a year. Kennedy Meeks, Theo Pinson.
Starting point is 00:17:00 We ended up, we played them three times. We went two on one. And if we ain't get cheated against South Carolina. And we would have met them in the championship. Hell off South Carolina. They went to the final four. They did, bro. We was going to smack y'all.
Starting point is 00:17:16 That was out of shape Glenn Davis Bill Kennedy mix too. Killer. Oh, you're no Carolina fan. Killer. Absolutely. You like Coach Cal. Right, but I don't fuck with Killer. Yeah, he like you. Absolutely. You like Coach Cal. Right, but I fuck with UNC. I fuck with Coach Cal off the court.
Starting point is 00:17:28 We'll talk later. I did the family business. Jason quit snitching. And two different ministries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Walking through the pot. Don't worry about that. Obviously, you said you knew he was gonna be a wonderduh.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You know what I'm saying? Season ends. How was that like knowing it was like, it's time to get paid, like transition to be a pro. Like dream come true. How was that moment? How was that like knowing it's like, it's time to get paid, like transition to be a pro, like dream come true. How was that moment? How was that summer? I ain't gonna lie, we lost to South Carolina
Starting point is 00:17:51 and I was upset, like, cause I was fully involved. Like I was at Duke. I was like, I want to see this through. I want to win the championship. The start of the season wasn't great, but we end up, we won the ACC tournament. We won four games in four days. Nobody had ever done that.
Starting point is 00:18:07 So we ended up being the two seed. So I'm thinking like, yo, we really gonna win the championship. We lost in the second round. And after the game, I was like devastated. I was sick. Did media, I'm in the locker room. And then I remember I got to the crowd
Starting point is 00:18:21 and I went to go see my mom and it just clicked. I was like, damn, like my dream about to come true. And at that moment, it wasn't like, I didn't care that we just lost. It was like, man, this is what I've been working towards my whole life. And it was like, I saw my mom. I was like, yo, I'm about to change my mom life.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And at that moment, I wasn't that sad no more. Like I was damn near excited. But I remember I was a little nervous calling Coach K of like telling him like, yo, I'm not coming back to school. And coach was like, you pick your agent yet? You ready? I was like, damn coach, like, you don't want me to come back? He's like, no, like you gotta go.
Starting point is 00:19:01 That's for real. Yeah, that's for real for sure. But like I always was gonna leave, but I had just built the connection, the relationship at Duke and you know, still tied into this day. And you know, I was just happy to be a part of that program. NBA is finally back.
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Starting point is 00:19:46 Only on DraftKings. The crown is yours. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Makeba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, said love. And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time
Starting point is 00:20:12 made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be.
Starting point is 00:20:35 We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show.
Starting point is 00:21:07 We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, girls? We got studs, wizards, we got freaks. Or dudes dudes. We got dogs.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Dogs! We'll break down their games, we'll share some insider stories, and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up everybody? It's Peter Schrager from the NFL Network's Good Morning Football and Fox's NFL Kickoff Show. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager, the podcast you find right here. In each episode of the season, I'm going to take you inside and behind the scenes of the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises.
Starting point is 00:22:03 We're bringing the top GMs, top coaches, the young coordinator you're getting to know. We're going to give you the story behind the story, but you're probably not getting anywhere else. Like all-pro Jets cornerback, Sauce Gardner. You know, as a defense, we're looking forward to adding on what we left off last season and just continuing to get better. Like first-year Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator, Zach Robinson. Bijon, he can got a ball every single play, and he's going to make a play.
Starting point is 00:22:26 See, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week. But the next week, you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? The music is awesome.
Starting point is 00:22:38 It's like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy. I'm busy.
Starting point is 00:22:51 But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL, life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brantz. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke? You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke, you got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. I'm not going to waste your time.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I'm not going to ask you to spend an hour or more listening to me pontificating about the state of quarterbacks in the league. No, no, no, no. I just need 10 minutes to tell you why this is the most interesting Chiefs team we've seen in years and nine other things rattling around in my head. If I go over 10 minutes, boom,
Starting point is 00:23:27 I get cut off and the podcast is over. I guarantee you will learn something. And you may, I'm telling you, you may just have the best time you've ever had listening to a podcast. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:50 No, that's dope, man. A lot of people don't get that experience where they coach wants you to leave and like telling you pick an agent and stuff. Our coach was nothing like that, bro. He was ready for them niggas to go. Yeah, he was hating on us doing the draft. He was telling two people we was bad teammates, all type of stuff. It was crazy. So that's dope that Coach K did that for y'all, for real. Yeah, that's love. Listen, we know where you went in the draft,
Starting point is 00:24:10 but did you think you was going number one? You didn't think so? Who went number one in your draft? Markel. Markel. And then two was Lonzo. I ain't gonna lie, Markel Fos was cold in college. He was raw.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Nah, facts, he was hard to watch. Yeah, he was nice. When I watched him, I was like, yeah, he special. Lonzo was nice, but LeVar Ball's marketing skills that entire summer. Yeah, that was him. That was crazy. That should be spoken on more because,
Starting point is 00:24:34 I mean, Lonzo was cold, obviously he was deserved. He was raw. But LeVar, so him so high, for real. He so him so high. Going on campaign, who else parent was on ESPN, bro? Before they, like, he really went crazy for that. He's daddy's gotta do better. I'm glad you ain't go.
Starting point is 00:24:48 What's that, it's gonna be on SportsCenter, bro? It ain't no privilege. Yeah, daddy's wasn't involved. They gotta do better. But it was a blessing not to go to LA for me, for you. I'm glad you ain't go to LA. I mean, he probably would have been filthy out there anyway, but I think Boston was just perfect.
Starting point is 00:25:03 No, I mean, it definitely worked out. But like you said, during that process, the narrative was it was consensus that Markel was going number one. And when the Lakers got the second pick, it was like Lanzo was going too. So it was never a thought in my mind. It's like I just felt like everybody had their mind made up. Damn. And I was in L.A. So Philly had the number one pick at first. They came to watch me workout.
Starting point is 00:25:27 The Celtics came to watch me workout. I'm sorry, the Celtics had the number one pick at the time. They came to watch me in Phoenix. So Phoenix was four. So I worked out for all of them. They come watch me. Everybody was raving about the workout. But then somebody, I ain't gonna say his name, but somebody on the Celtics front office was like, yo, one of the best workouts I've seen. He was like, good luck in your career, but you know, we got the number one pick, we probably not gonna pick you.
Starting point is 00:25:52 So at the time I was like, damn. I don't wanna go down. Damn, Brad, you did that. No, it wasn't Brad. I'm just playing, let me stop. I'm sorry, Brad. Hey, good Brad, come on, bro. Don't do my guy like that.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Nah, Brad my guy too, I'm sorry, Brad. For me, I grew up a Kobe fan. I always wanted to play for the Lakers. So, for them to have the number two pick, and it was like, they didn't even, it wasn't even a thought that I was gonna get drafted. That was kinda devastating. So, I never worked out for the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:26:20 They never came to watch me work out. And then, it was like a week before the draft. Philly and Boston traded the 31 pick. And I wanted to go to Phoenix. Phoenix had the fourth pick. Errol Watson was a coach. I went out there. I was looking at houses. The weather was nice. They had a young team. I was like, man, I'm gonna go get the play. And then I remember Coach K was like, yo, Boston wouldn't have you for a second workout. You should go. I'm like, coach, like, they just came off the Eastern Conference finals. They got a veteran team like I'm probably not gonna play on when I go. Yeah, he was raving about Brad Stevens. He's like,
Starting point is 00:26:55 Brad's one of the best coaches in the league, like, just go for another workout. And I remember I went up to Boston like three days before the draft. I had another workout. And I didn't know where I was getting drafted until they called my name. Dang. But you know, the rest was history and it all worked out. For sure.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That's crazy, because I know from the outside looking in, like I said, we fell for some of the propaganda from the Bob-Obs. We didn't know it was sold up like that. So to hear you say like the Lakers was that locked in, that's crazy. Yeah, I was sick too, because I was like, man, I was so close to my dream and I might play for the Lakers was that locked in. That's crazy. Yeah, I was sick too, because I was like, man, I was so close to my dream
Starting point is 00:27:28 and I might play for the Lakers. It was like best case scenario. And they was, they mind was made up. They didn't want to come watch me work out or had me come in. I was like, man. So you didn't think you was going to play at all in Boston? And then I get drafted.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Gordon Hayward signed with the Celtics. I called my agent like, yo, I gotta get traded. Yeah, facts. I'm in summer league before I ever play a game, like, yo, he like relaxed, just waited out. Yeah, man, he doing too much. Basically, he's like, you gotta chill. I'm like, yo, I'm trying to play.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I don't, I didn't get drafted to come off the bench and not start. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yo, just like, you in a great organization, they gonna teach you how to play the right way. I ain't gonna lie, I would have been worried too. I mean, JB. I was thinking about Bryce Young.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Grab the headset, JT. They picked up Jordan, and then JB just got drafted the year before. And JB didn't even play that much this first year. So I would have been concerned too, I ain't gonna lie. So at first I'm like, but this was before Kai even came. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:31 But then when Kai came it was cool cause we traded a lot of people for Kai, I ain't gonna lie. But y'all went in the mouse. Yeah, y'all got real good moves. That was a hell of a trade. Yeah, you had one that like, you had, I'll rock with you purely off of skill, but I think what's so crazy about you is like,
Starting point is 00:28:45 you accomplished so much in a short little time that people like wanted downplay it. It's just like, it's not his fault that he came into the league killing. A lot of people take adjustment periods. You was on a veteran team with a lot of people trying to get contracts, but a lot of people trying to prove themselves
Starting point is 00:28:58 and still flourish. Like I had a crazy, I worked here, y'all went crazy, man. Yeah, that was, at that time, that was like the most fun I ever had playing basketball. Like we lost our first two games and Gordon got hurt on opening night, which was, that was like tragic. Yeah, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And I remember we lost to Cleveland, played back to back, we lost to Milwaukee. I was like, damn, this is gonna be a tough year. But we won 16 games straight. And that's when I was like, Kyrie might be the best basketball player I've ever seen. My favorite player ever. Kyrie won the college basketball.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Kyrie is so cool. Benny got hurt and we had like 23 games left. And I remember it was me, Smart, T-Row, Marcus Morris, Bangs, Al. And we was already the two seed. And we had 23 games to like play, like learn how to play with each other. And then we got to the playoffs and it was like,
Starting point is 00:29:47 man, we was just like everybody favorite team cause we was all young. Nobody expected us to beat Giannis in the Bucks. Then we beat Joel, then we played Bron in the conference finals. We was rolling, I ain't go a lot. We was just out there like having a ball. For sure.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I gotta ask man, how was it going to send LeBron to tweet to follow you back to Duncan on him in a playoffs? Like that's a hell of a transition. No, it was definitely a full circle moment. And I remember like when we beat, we beat Philly and they had swept Toronto. That's when the tweets start going viral. I made that tweet in eighth grade, like when I first got on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah, we know we we see the times there, but it's just funny as hell. It was like 2012 or something like that. He was a fan. Ugh. Uh. That was never a tweet. Did he take a picture with Brian?
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. But when I took a picture. He was a kid. Oh my God. He was 12. He did take a picture. That nigga was already 6'3". The broadhawter on top of his head.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah. You up next, King. I was like, nah, I'm not too bad of a pick. You up next, King is crazy. Uh, so clip that, Luis. All right. That was a game. Nah, that's funny.
Starting point is 00:31:02 That's funny. Nah, I want you to speak on the door for real. I wanna, I love bro Terry Rozier game bro. T-Rawel. How was that playing with him man? That little stint that y'all had bro. Bro, so T-Gno like in the, right before the season, before training camp, that's, guys start coming in like two, three weeks before
Starting point is 00:31:20 and the younger guys, I was in there like a month and we was having like open runs. And I remember the first time I called back home, and I called back and said, yo, Terry Roger is like that, bro. And you know, when you're younger, you think the guys that come off the bench are not starting, you think they just bums or average.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Man, when I seen T-Roy in that first pickup game, I was like, nah, like Terry really got game. No, he called. You know, and for 95% of the league, you gotta be in the right spot and have an opportunity. It's only a handful of guys that can go on any team and be who they are. And that don't mean that the other guy's not that good,
Starting point is 00:32:00 it's just those 5% of players are really that good. So, you know, obviously you don't never wanna see somebody get hurt, but it was a blessing in disguise for Kyrie to get hurt. T-Roy got the show, you know, leading the team and being the starting point guard and, you know, do all those things. But I remember like it was September or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:20 I called back home, I was like, yo, T-Roy is cold. You was killing, bro, what I feel like he was y'all like leader, bro. He was y'all like leader, bro. He was y'all dog on that team. And that run that was on, he was going crazy. JT was in the cut, you feel me? He was doing your thing. He was nigga at the front, like, what's happening?
Starting point is 00:32:34 When he tried to dunk on Braun, that's when it got crazy. Yeah. That was in that last game. Yeah, I was like, yeah, he ready to go home. You know he done enough. I'm just trying to shit down. But the movement was crazy. It was scary and scary.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Cause our boy act like, with Eric Bustle didn't act like he know who he was, bro. Then it got smokey. That move, that snatch back. Clippy Lewis, it was crazy. Then they had Bustle at the game. I said, they out of pocket. Y'all was hard for that.
Starting point is 00:32:59 I rock with you. You know what? I love Boston fans. Even though when I played there, it was COVID. We didn't have a fan in the stand. That's why I wasn't hooping like that. We I love Boston fans. Even though when I played there it was COVID, we didn't have a fan in the stand. That's why I wasn't hooping like that. We ain't no fans, I'm a performer. Like I need a crowd.
Starting point is 00:33:11 They had fake crowd noise. The stands wasn't even out. The stands weren't even out. You couldn't hoop a coppola? Nah, I ain't no hooper. That's what the problem was. Yeah, I ain't no practice player, bro. I need a real show, bro.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I was like, hey, you turned me. Yeah, it was fake crowd noise. Niggas and babas there. I'm waiting at JT Mama. She's the only one in the crowd. Put my son in the game. Little Deuce running on the court. They ain't got no security.
Starting point is 00:33:38 He just running on the court. I'm like, hey, JT, get your song, man. I almost tripped over his shoe. No, Deuce do it. He do it every year. He do it. That's fine. Yeah, I even like to get your song man. I almost tripped over his shit. No dudes do it, he do it every, he won. I didn't, he didn't. Nah that's fine. Yeah, I was no friend. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:49 We really was cheering for each other. Like yeah, what the who, boy, I'm like. I have my best game. We on national TV, didn't even feel like it. I tell people that was the hardest, that's gotta be like the toughest NBA season of all time. That was terrible bro. That's why I ain't get out no. No fans.
Starting point is 00:34:04 You gotta do it. The nose swab every morning. Terrible. Like you just didn't know who was gonna play. That was terrible. You had to sit and wait 30 minutes before you could go in the gym. We all just up there texting like,
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm like, yeah, this is all for me. And that's crazy that y'all said that because I hear all the players say like, that was a trying time, but it's like everybody else in the media be like, that Lakers ring don't count because it was COVID. I'm like, the niggas who was playing said, that was really hard to ride with to deal with.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Y'all going over they advice over y'all's. That was tough, that was tough. I don't know about them for me, it was tough. No, it was weird. I played into the crowd. Especially being on the road. I wanna apologize to Boston because that wasn't my best performance.
Starting point is 00:34:42 There wasn't no fans there. But you was ready though. I mean, we don't want to talk about your Michael Urban story, but you was ready to play. Stop bro. I wasn't, I wasn't. I wasn't, I wasn't. I was just cleaning my nose a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I didn't want Coke. Chill, you know. He's out of pocket, bro. Let's move over, man. Obviously man. He always play too much, bro. For sure. That's why the wrestler's gonna beat you up. Hey, look at him. I'm sorry. He always play too much, bro. For sure. Lot of cops play.
Starting point is 00:35:05 That's why the wrestler's gonna beat you up. Hey, look at him. Hey, hey. He need your help, bro. You don't have to stall him out, bro. What? You said you gonna, how you rank a fake split? Listen, see nigga, you didn't come on here to do this,
Starting point is 00:35:17 but fuck it, we here. That was wild. Everybody just sees the clips and fuck them. Really, I don't give a fuck. Honestly, excuse my language, nigga. But since you wanna break it up, I said a real karate black belt. He agreed.
Starting point is 00:35:33 He is a wrestling group. No, I did not agree. He jumps off the ropes at the house. He's the biggest wrestling fan in the world. He jumped off the ropes. Yes, bro. We on the ring. Why you adding into this, bro?
Starting point is 00:35:44 See, I'll be leaving stuff alone. He'll be right here then. But I'm saying a real karate black belt is somebody who just plays in WWE. Like not saying the top wrestlers or nothing, but like the nigga that, they probably had LeVar Ball out there. So it's like eight niggas built like LeVar Ball
Starting point is 00:35:59 that a wrestler would get paid for. So a motherfucking real karate Earl type nigga with a black belt will beat the shit out of one of them, bro. I don't care. So it's a G League wrestler, you saying? Back to Jason, man. I'm not worried about him. Oh, that's what a rapper is for.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's no way to say it. I'm not worried about him, man. We not worried. We not gonna disrespect where I'm about to be performing at. Hit is crazy. I'm gonna sign a deal with them, suck. But the answer, the answer, not them. He threshed for a one piece.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Then they, AEW called me too. Well, bro, stop laughing at him, bro. I tell you how you laughing at the lunch table. Person laugh, get it next, bro. For real. Don't do that. Moving on. Let's keep watching from this topic.
Starting point is 00:36:40 All right, cool. All right, man. Shoes is crazy. What was that feeling like, you know what I'm saying? Knowing that you was going to be a signature athlete getting your own shoe, man. Yeah, that's hard. No, it was dope.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I mean, for me, I don't take anything for granted. I'm still young enough where I remember the days of playing 2K with my cousin, like, yo, I'm gonna be on the cover one day, or going to Full Locker, like, man, somebody gonna buy my shoes one day, or getting a jersey for Christmas, like, man, somebody gonna buy my shoes one day or get in a jersey for Christmas like man, somebody gonna get my jersey for
Starting point is 00:37:07 Christmas. So it's like, it's still a wild moment. Like when we go on the road and kids on the sideline, the kids in the crowd holding up my shoes like three years in, it's my third shoe and it's still like, man, like all the guys in the league, all the shoes you could have went to go buy and it's like, man, you went to go buy mine And it's like, man, you went to go buy mine. It's like, that shit is still dope to me, even to this day.
Starting point is 00:37:29 For sure. How's the design process like to be hands on with something like you said, you get to see out in the world. And the second side of that question is, how do you feel about people playing against you in your shoes? So that's it.
Starting point is 00:37:41 So the first part, it's an 18 month process. So like the threes is out, the fours is done. We working on the fives. So it's like, it's a long process because you like, you wanna enjoy what you're wearing now, but you're on meetings about when the fours is coming out and they like, all right, well we need to start designing the fives.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So it's tough to kind of stay in the moment because you like, man, I just wanna focus on what's going on right now. But shout out to everybody on the team, team Tatum and Jordan Brand. They work very hard we always on calls together and it's just dope to see all the work that go behind it and all how long it took and it's like when you finally see the final product when you get to see all the colorways and tell stories organically and people that, you know, can relate to whatever you're trying to tell.
Starting point is 00:38:30 It is dope. And for me, you know, seeing guys wear my shoes, whether they college or the women's team in college or the NBA players. We just played Detroit. Like two games ago, and shout out to Tim Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, been wearing my shoes like a year and a half now. But I always notice whenever I play Tim, you know, I never wear them.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But we always joke and laugh about it. So he ain't wearing what we play him the other day. Then they went to Miami and he had them on. But I get it like, man, being a competitor, you try and compete against somebody like you don't wanna have a sneaks on. You know, I totally understand that but uh shout out to all the guys in the league that wear the Tatum 3s or 2s or whatever um and I really do appreciate it. Them 3s is raw bro. They fire. You think you're gonna have like a
Starting point is 00:39:18 a Tatum team where like guys who wear like you can I mean what uh Steph just do he signed the Aaron Files. Tainted soldiers. Yeah, wherever you want to call them. Tainted soldiers is crazy. Lebron soldiers. I'm about to try to be a Lebron soldier. He ain't about to sign me up. He about to be a soldier.
Starting point is 00:39:35 I was about to get bronze. Even if I tried to get D-Rose to start with too, but it didn't work out. So give me extra 100 grand, I'll wear them D-Roses. But shout out to Anthony, man. Give my boy a ticket shoot, man. That'd be dope if we keep building the business and we get to a point down the road,
Starting point is 00:39:52 10 years from now when I'm one of the older guys, anything happen? That's all right. That's fire. I gotta ask, what was that excitement? Like, what was like a better feeling? I know you're very grateful, but being on 2K or getting your own shoes?
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's two far ass accomplishments. But to be on the cover of 2K, bro, is crazy. Ooh, that's a good question. I ain't gonna lie, I bought that 2K. Can't believe I bought it. Not like that, I'm not saying like that. I ain't bought 2K in a long time. I usually get it delivered.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Support Black people. Hey, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's rich y'all. I appreciate it, bro. You Blackfever. Hey, nothing. I appreciate it, bro. You could have sent me one, bro. Say what I was saying, bro. This must be your guy.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Was this your vet? He got his shoes. Kind of sent me shoes, bro. That's crazy. I got some JT-2. I ain't never get no JT-1s. I'ma keep it up there. You got some twos?
Starting point is 00:40:44 I got some twos. I got some twos. I got some twos. They never grateful. Yeah, did you send them some threes? Did I send the threes? They on the way. Oh, okay. They on the way.
Starting point is 00:40:51 They on the way, nevermind. I'm a Jordan athlete again. Oh, okay. I got the Jordan athlete now. My threes on the way. What do you use your platform, kid? So you gotta start bullying people. I think the moment when I found out I was on 2K
Starting point is 00:41:04 was more special just cause it was my birthday. people. I think the moment when I found that I was on 2k was more special just because it was my birthday. And it was on the Netflix thing I did was starting five deuce. He surprised me. And at that moment, like I kind of got emotional. I teared up a little bit, just because it was like, man, it's my son sharing this moment with me. Yeah, this is someone always dreamed of was like, being on a cover of 2K is like legendary and happy on shoe is as well. But man, 2K 25 is like,
Starting point is 00:41:32 like everybody play 2K. On God they do. I just wish they wouldn't have did your game like they did it. Like when you was on the cover cause nigga can't make a shot for shit. I ain't here to shot. You say that over?
Starting point is 00:41:43 Nah, I'm raw now. Oh good. I'm talking about, you talking about his game, on the game? Nah shot. Nah, I'm raw now. Oh, get it twisted. I'm talking about, you talking about his game, I'm the game. Nah, nah, nah, he raw on two-cash. They made him. He's doing shots? I would, I thought, nah.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I'm talking about the game play, like when you create a player and you go on the rec and stuff, like can't nobody make a shot but me. My nephew sells me. My best friends sell me. I got a carry but my back is getting heavy. People complain about the game play. I try to text JT and tell him, tell Ron he didn't get this fixed.
Starting point is 00:42:12 He didn't respond but it's cool. Anyway, that's it. You ain't never texted me. I ain't texted you. Okay, okay, you right. My fault. They was nervous today. I ain't gonna lie, they was nervous.
Starting point is 00:42:22 He was nervous. You should have played for the Bershavia 2K squad is out of the park. Yeah, they, we gotta get better, bro. He was nervous today. He was nervous. He was nervous. He said he's solid. You should have played for the Machiavelli or 2K squad as a lot of fuck. Yeah, they did. We gotta get better, bro. He was nervous? He was nervous.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Mike was nervous. He thought you wasn't gonna come. I said, he just got here. I said, why he just ate? You said you didn't take me back. Cause you like, what's up? I'm like, he didn't take me back yet. Revenge this, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Revenge this is crazy. What are we doing? I put the ER on it. I put the ER on it. I did it. Mike tired us out. That's freaky Mike. We ain't gonna tell you his backstory.
Starting point is 00:42:57 I always come through, bro. No, you do, bro. You always been south. That's one thing I wanted to say. When it comes to fans and stuff, you, D-Rose, and a couple of teammates that I had, y'all have always been south. That's one thing I wanted to say like when you when it comes to fans and stuff Like you D Rose and a couple teammates that I had y'all always been great with fans I was never good with fans. Like I ignore a kid in a heartbeat. You was good, bro No, i'm not saying like that like maybe like tig tig I hear him and I just Go back there. I get to the end. You don't ignore anybody like and that's what makes you you
Starting point is 00:43:23 Like you're a star that's reason you gotta shoot. Like you a star, that's the reason you gotta shoot. That's why you can be sold on a 2K cover. Cause you treat everybody with respect. I wasn't disrespecting. I just didn't feel like signing that day. That boy love Cleveland, man. But, pause, that's crazy. But listen, no, he great at that though.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And I used to see that when we was in Boston. And like, even like when you had a little Mikey in here, man, to sign his jersey and see how excited he was about that. I'm like, man, he really got it. You know what I mean? You got that, bro. When did you start that though? When did you become like, damn, I'm low-key famous?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Was it high school? Was it when you walked on campus at Duke? When did you start embracing that moment? I mean, it's a progression. When I was in high school, I got to a certain point, that's when social media took off. I would come out the locker room, I was signing three, 400 autographs at the early game.
Starting point is 00:44:10 In high school? Yeah. Oh damn, eBay right now, waiting to cash in. That supporter's crazy. You and Sexy Red, boy. St. Louis getting behind y'all. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Shout out to Imo's. Emo's, yo. Aw, Emo's in the wrong pocket. Emo's. Yeah, don't disrespect. Real shit, chill. My fuck, guys. Oh, Emo's in the wrong pocket. No disrespect. No shit, chill. My fault, guy. I know you can't say Charlamagne no more,
Starting point is 00:44:29 but if you're trying to eat food out there prior to the shout out to the fried rice, I'm tapping in. I'm tapping in. How? Getting sexy. Lil' Pimp Rollins was crazy. I hate going.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Sexy ready, now go shout out. I'm gonna go do that. I will, I will. I was arguing about Nelly and somebody. Bro, he was really hot at me. Who else I was better than Nelly, bro? He was really bad. That's what I'm saying. T-Bro, T the type of guy, he would just say, he'd come in the locker room and just say some wild shit just to like get a reaction out of you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yo, he used to say like, and I love James Harden, he used to be like, James Harden better than Kobe. Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. No, we hear it. Yo. I told, I used to say no. He know Kobe was my favorite player, he used to say anybody was better than Kobe. See, you can't do that, don't do that, don't do that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:45:26 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, so he used to listen to though growing up. Was you warming up to- He was not warming up to- He was getting caught in here. So take off.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Shaman eyes crazy. Hey yo. What the- Yo who the- Oh man. People are trying to go to Indiana. Go ahead. Y'all got-
Starting point is 00:46:00 Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. We got Michael Jackson. I know y'all got Michael Jackson. Y'all got Michael Jackson. Who the best rapper from Indiana? Shout out Freddie Gibbs.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah, he from the G. I guess. Good choice. No, I ain't disrespecting him. He not from our cities or whatever. He from Gary. Yeah, we speak home. He from Shetty.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Gary Akinab? Who the best rapper from Indiana? Oh, okay. AllJ. Gary A. No, he the best rapper from Indiana. Oh, okay. All right. It is quiet. Y'all got Sexy, Nelly, uh, Chingster. Chingster's crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Chingster? What's up, nigga? Y'all all used to listen to the Chinkies. What's the nigga this? Nah, we ain't play Chinkies. Yeah, J. Quan. J. Quan? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Man, he getting paid right now from that country dude using his song. Ah, yep. Shabo J. Juan? Yeah. He getting paid right now from that country dude using his song. Shaboosa or something like that. Yeah. So y'all had some shit, bro. Y'all had some nuketix. I'm wearing it for us because of Nelly.
Starting point is 00:46:53 So yeah, that's a big statement. I was just asking. I thought Nelly was raw back in the day. But there's people better than, that got better music than Nelly. So you can get tied about that. It's crazy. No, it's a handful of people.
Starting point is 00:47:03 JT, stop. We ain't gonna do that. I mean, he did go dining. No, it's a handful of people. JT, stop. We ain't gonna do that. I mean, he did go dining. I said it's a handful of people. He did go dining. JT's favorite rapper is the Jay-Z though. That's how me and him got cool. I'm like, damn, you listen to Jay-Z, bro?
Starting point is 00:47:16 You like, yeah. The great thing about T, he came to the team, and this was during the COVID season. So the season started late, like November, December. Our first game was on Christmas. He didn't talk for the first like three weeks. Like he ain't say nothing. God test people out bro.
Starting point is 00:47:33 Dark times bro. And then one day this nigga did not shut up. Like he ain't talk for like three weeks. I was like, man, something wrong with it. He different. And then after that, he something wrong with it. But he like, he different. Yeah. And then after that, he just, from the day he got traded, but to the day he got traded, he talk every day.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Wow. Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, James Brown, BB King, Miriam Makeba. I shook up the world. James Brown said, said love. And the kid said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa. Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks?
Starting point is 00:49:03 We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.
Starting point is 00:49:21 What kind of types of dudes are there, girls? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dudes. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, everybody? It's Peter Schrager from the NFL Network's Good Morning Football and Fox's NFL Kickoff
Starting point is 00:49:58 Show. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager, the podcast you find right here. In each episode of the season, I'm gonna take you inside and behind the scenes of the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. We're bringing the top GMs, top coaches, the young coordinator you're getting to know. We're gonna give you the story behind the story,
Starting point is 00:50:15 but you're probably not getting anywhere else. Like all-pro Jets cornerback, Sauce Gardner. You know, as a defense, we looking forward to adding on when we left off last season and just continuing to get better. Like first-year Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson. Bijon, he's got a ball every single play and he's gonna make a play. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're gonna be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Music is awesome. It's like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy. I'm busy. But every single Monday we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes.
Starting point is 00:51:00 NFL, life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brantz. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. NFL, life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brantz. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke, you got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. I'm not going to waste your time. I'm not going to ask you to spend an hour or more listening to me pontificating about the state of quarterbacks in the league. No, no, no, no. I just need 10 minutes to tell you why this is the most interesting Chiefs team we've seen in years and nine other things rattling around in my head. If I go over 10 minutes, boom,
Starting point is 00:51:33 I get cut off and the podcast is over. I guarantee you will learn something. And you may, I'm telling you, you may just have the best time you've ever had listening to a podcast. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Man, that's how it became cool.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Don't do that. Do you remember that moment? I do. I remember cause I was like, man, they think I'm weird. They don't know I really am. I didn't think you was weird. I'm really roasting y'all in my head, but I really being cool, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:06 I was like, man, I said something to him. And we started shooting together and I was beating him and shooting every time. Yeah, can we get on that story? Cause Evan Turner said he whooped your ass one day in practice and that's a one-v-one. I mean, that's probably the reason. Like I don't address a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:52:21 People say a lot of things on the internet and on TV about me and it's cool. Everybody got a job. But I like y'all platforming this podcast. And I feel like I had to come up here and address some Pagaya ET, we in the group message. And sometimes you just can't let people get away with lying. And then get on the camera and just start lying.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Call ET out there and address your allegations. I thought he wasn't talking about me. He said he used to do dog walking. This was ET first year coaching. He still wanted to hoop. See, he flexed. T wasn't, I ain't gonna say he wasn't playing, but like. I was starting at first, no, I was six man.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah, he was coming off the bench. Okay. He was coming off the bench. See. He came in as Jett. Don't do that. But T, T like he got this demeanor like he don't, he just real nausea a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Like everything he just. No, that's facts bro. He be in practice shoes, kind of like barely tied. But after practice, he would want to play one-on-one. He would want to, we would always shoot after practice. And me, him and ET would play one-on-one. He would wanna, we would always shoot after practice. And me, him, and ET would play one-on-one, damn it, like every day. And he would win some spots.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Like if we played five spots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's 6'10", I'm 5'9". Yeah. Posted him up. He was crazy. I'm not crazy. I'm crazy as well.
Starting point is 00:53:44 He would score on ET. Oh! Damn. I was screwed on YouTube, bro. And some of those spots. He just kicked that shit. He lying, bro. Say y'all are supposed to get an ET and a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Don't do my dog like that, bro. Oh, he not gonna let you do ET. Like, tell the truth, J. He's lying now, bro. ET used to lock him up sometimes. Ah, see that's what he talk about us. ET was trying to get it. He was trying to get it. 10 days.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Whoop. I was like, he was trying to come back, bro. We never was thinking about it. Like, niggas get, hey, come people get COVID, man. You like, COVID get COVID. For real, bro? I was like, hey, bro, get COVID. ET was like, he was trying to come back and whoop.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Man, I was like, bro, get COVID, man. You might have to suit up, bro. We was playing with King of the Court that day at home. I tween cross ET, I go to lay the ball up, no lie, that shit grabbed me out the air. He's flying hard, bro. Brad Stevens walking the baseline, like for a split second, ET lost his mind.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like he almost got fired. Like he grabbed me out the air, not like the foul me, just like the, so I wouldn't get the layup. And Brad, Brad non-confrontation, Brad just looked at him like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:54:52 That's when I knew it was time for me to stop playing. He said, he tripped on me and some shit. He ain't got much room around here. He took that and he's in the joint. No, he, like the thing I couldn't believe it, like you know, most of the star players, they'll get their shots up, then they gonna go about their business.
Starting point is 00:55:12 He'll be looking for you like, oh, we ain't playing today. I'm like, and he different. We in the gym for another two hours. Bro, we would play one on one every day. And I'm like, yo, he different. Like he wanna be in here for another two hours. I'm really don't even want to be in here,
Starting point is 00:55:27 but I'm gonna play against him. That's cause I like, he wouldn't, he didn't really want to be at practice. So I'm like, damn bro. I'm a coach, bro. Don't say that. Tell your truth. That's also the kids.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Don't say that. Cause that, that was fucking third good wash in the gym, damn. Motherfucker may not be submitted in practice. Motherfucker, motherfucker running all day. Fuck with Coach T. But I will say he like this, like a lot of people don't necessarily want to go through the practice schedule,
Starting point is 00:55:56 but if they want to compete, if you want to go through workout or shooting drills or play one on one after practice, like everybody want to compete. So that's what, that was our thing after practice. We would always play one-on-one, me, him and ET had to practice. Do you give them a little credit though, him and ET for sharpening your skills a little bit?
Starting point is 00:56:14 Just a little bit. I'm trying to get it where you show them a little love. Did ET teach you a drill that you use in the game? Teach you a drill. The funny thing about ET, he would tell, like ET was assistant coaches at this point. For sure. ET was like, when am I gonna teach Jason Taylor?
Starting point is 00:56:34 What am I gonna teach him? He better than me. I'm like, good point ET. We talked about that too though. ET was the wildest, funniest coach I ever had. And not even trying to be funny. We was playing in Milwaukee. And I think at half, I had to be like three for 10.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I missed like four or five threes. So I missed my last three, we walking off. And he just so, it's like, he got an innocence about it. He run up to me, he like, yo, you know you can make some of them, right? That's ET. That's ET. Like, I know what he trying to say, but how he conveyed the messages. It's so crazy because like, how do I even respond to this in the moment? You just look at it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You know you laugh, bro. Like, yeah, I'm trying to, bro. I'm trying. That was a good time, bro. ET, so as Salah just talked the whole game. He like, look at good time, bro. ET Silasala just talked the whole game. He like, look at JT, man. He want the ball, man.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Look at him, he pissed. Look at his thoughts, man. I'll be on their left. Oh, I'll give him the ball, man. Like a drunk uncle. I'll give him the ball, man. Give that boy the ball, man. Sit back.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Call for a nephew. Give the ball, man. Kim, will you see him? Oh, but give get the ball man. That was a fun year. I give Tee credit though. I wanted a D-Row with autographed jersey and I didn't know that they was cool. I didn't know that they knew each other from way back and Tee made sure I got an autographed
Starting point is 00:57:57 Detroit piston D-Row jersey. Yeah, I was like, man, go up to him, bro. I went up to him and he looking like, he want Mark. I'm like, yeah. I was like, I need one too. I was like, I need one too. I was like, I need one too. I was like, I need one Yeah, I was like, man, go up to him, bro. I went up to him, he looking like, he want Mark. I'm like, yeah, I was like, I need one too. Somebody throw Mark. I damn near was like nervous to go up to him,
Starting point is 00:58:12 and ask D-Rose, I was like. That's what made me like, kind of get like drawn to you, Pauze, but it's like, you was so cool. Like, I'm like, man, he a star. Like, he a superstar, but he'll be like, I remember you, bro, like. And he'll show you love, like he ain't giving me no love right now. It's cool, but he'll be like, I remember you bro, like. And he'll show you love, like he ain't giving me no love right now.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's cool, but he'd be like, nah, you remember you and Atlanta? I'm like, you ain't supposed to take his ass in. That's what we do. You know what I'm saying? Right on, bro. You know what I'm saying? And ET, ET liked that too.
Starting point is 00:58:39 ET'll give you a lot of love. And I was like, dang. So when I seen him start working together, ET was like, man, he like a little bro, bro, but he cold. Only person he would ever say something else to get under his skin would be Luca, bro. Anytime we mentioned Luca,
Starting point is 00:58:53 even though it definitely ain't no beef with them or nothing, it's just competitive spirit, but ET would be like, yeah, Luca cold. I'd be like, ooh, is ET about to get 40 tonight? He about to go crazy. I was like, say it again, ET. Before the game, we got to play some, I'm gonna be like, Ooh, JT about to get 40 tonight. He about to go crazy. I was like, say it again, JT. Before the game, we gotta play some, I'll be like, talk about Luca.
Starting point is 00:59:08 JT be like, my favorite player is Luca. He'd be like, JT be like, why? I'll be like, he cold though. You know what I mean? I'll be like, he is cold though. I knew he was gonna get at least a 32 point performance. We on the bench, we just wanna see somebody kill. See, my mother just knew how to trigger him though.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Yeah, I do it now. Get him going. I'll text him now. Whew. I couldn't say nothing to first game this year. You went crazy. I ain't wanna get no love though. I was just like.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I ain't wanna get no love. I ain't wanna get no love. Send the nigga thumbs up. Yeah, I was like, way to hoop, way to hoop. Pass of aggression. But he was killing, bro. He was killing. This year been good so far for sure. Listen man, we definitely wanna talk about the ring. I had last year wait a whoop, wait a whoop. But he was killing, bro. He was killing. This shit been good so far for sure.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Listen, man, we definitely wanna talk about the ring. I had last year to get the ring, but I wanna ask, you know what I'm saying? Planting gets the worst in 22, coming up a little bit short, but how was that experience, you know what I'm saying, motivated you to be ready to get that chip last year? I mean, certain things that you go through in real time
Starting point is 00:59:59 that you don't understand, like, how this is going to prepare you for the future. Cause losing in 22 was like devastating. Like we was 11th seed, we end up getting to the 2 seed. We beat Katie and Kyrie. Please be honest, the defending champs. We go to Miami and win in game seven. Like that was one of the toughest runs I can remember in recent years. And then the follow-up short, it was like, man, we just did all that for nothing. It was devastating. And then the fall up short, it was like, man, we just did all of that for nothing. It was devastating.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And then the next year we kind of like, we like overlooked teams a little bit. We just wanted to get back to the finals. We ended up going six with Atlanta in the first round. Like we didn't handle business the way we should have and put ourselves in a hole. We was down three and you damn near got to be perfect to win four games in a row.
Starting point is 01:00:42 And you know, I sprayed my ankle the first play of the game and you know, the margin for error is just that much shorter when you down 0-3. So I think last year was the perfect balance of like, obviously we got KP, we got Drew. And I think our team was just in a perfect space of like, everybody got paid, everybody had individual success and awards.
Starting point is 01:01:04 The only thing we haven't done besides Drew was win a championship. And I give a lot of credit to our coaching staff and Joe. Just the way we prepared, like in our mindset, we knew how to play and we really, we just got better every single day. We approached how we was gonna play the Bucs the same way we was gonna play the Wizards.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Like we didn't look past nobody. And we lost 18 games last year and we went 16 and three in the playoffs. Like I know we still playing and nobody wanna give us our credit, but like the shit we did last year was special. No, that shit was special. I was just getting my motherfucking credit.
Starting point is 01:01:36 No, I don't know who's telling you different. Yeah, that's that. Anybody else is just blatantly hating. As a Patriots fan, please tell me that we was the hardest team, you know what I'm saying? Last year out in the postseason. That nigga do got all the Celtics grayed out for the hardest team, you know what I'm saying, last shot of the postseason. That nigga do go out and sell these green outfits over there. You know, this ain't something to do with me.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Lucky can never. No, I mean, I said it, I'm on record for saying it like, yes sir. It's the Patriots, that was the hardest series that we had last year. Just like. How fast they play, they were subbing three people at a time. T.J. McConnell was unreal at home, like he was doing. OV topping like the role players that they got, they just also selfless.
Starting point is 01:02:19 They don't move. They don't stop moving. Everybody played without the ball. And they just like. They, the way they play, they try to, they like bait you in a plan, how they play. And like that works for them. And you know, our thing is like, we want to get stops and defense and you look up,
Starting point is 01:02:38 the score might be 135. Like that's the game that they want to play. And when they get you playing that way, like they can beat anybody. And you know, we came back and overtime the first game, game three was down 19 and game four, shit we went down to the wire, like we swept them, but like every game we was dead tired.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Now it was, they were all good games though, for the most part, like exciting games to be, I should say. I give any a lot of credit, like we was dog tired after every game after that. Listen, we don't get nice things often,. I give any a lot of credit. Like we was dog tired after every game after that. Listen, we don't get nice things often. So that compliments me a lot to me. Cause this nigga still in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:03:10 He spoke like that. The way we start off this season. I don't know if I can be happy this year or not, man. It's a thanks for them kind words. That's all I need right now. Nah, when Drew first got traded from Milwaukee, what'd I tell you? We was gonna win.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Nah, I told you go get Drew. Remember you guys sent the court. Oh, we got traded from Milwaukee. Nah, I told you go get Drew. Remember you guys sent the court. Oh, we got traded from him. Yeah, I said go get Drew. Y'all gonna win. He said, I'm already on it. I said, no you wasn't, man. He said, I'm on it.
Starting point is 01:03:34 And then I seen it happen. I said, damn, he was on it. It wasn't playing. It wasn't playing. Damn, he really got pulled over there. It was in the time of contact, no temporary. Yeah, man. I'm just saying though, him joining the team though,
Starting point is 01:03:46 how was it, bro? Did you think like when Drew got there, of course y'all got aspirations of winning, but he was like, nah, this is gonna help us. No, I mean, absolutely. Drew was on the team with me in 2021 when we was in the Olympics. Fresh off, he just won the championship with the Bucks,
Starting point is 01:04:02 came with us and we won the gold medal together. And I just, I understood at that time that Drew was like a Swiss army, like he could guard the one through the five. He could be on ball, he could play off the ball. You put him in a dunker, he could set screens, he could score on any matchup. And he not like, you know, he a team player.
Starting point is 01:04:22 When the big games, he gonna do what he's supposed to do. And not that he gonna fall back, but he just know how to play with superstars. And he like the ultimate teammate. So when we got Drew, it was definitely like, our confidence rose. It was like, man, we just felt that much better about what we was about to do.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Yeah, yeah. As a patient friend, I'm hating because y'all cheating. You're not supposed to have Derek, white, Andrew, and then switching to you and JB. That's not fair. Man, life ain't fair, man. Derek White got caught when he cut the hair. When he cut the hair.
Starting point is 01:04:54 He had to pay for that though. I mean, they salary cap, man. Tax bill is probably nuts though. I can't imagine. I know he's selling the tape for a reason. I'm trying to do this. This shit's too much. I can't imagine, I know he's selling a tape for a reason. I'm trying to do this. This shit's too much. I ain't dealing with this.
Starting point is 01:05:09 We winning but boy this tax bill is crazy. It's worth it though bro. I mean, championships is for sure worth it. Y'all two a great star so far. For sure, I mean I want to ask, having the crazy summer, getting the ring, getting the gold medal, how you come back motivated? Obviously you're a professional, you come to hoop,
Starting point is 01:05:26 but like having such accomplishments in a short amount of time, what keeps you motivated and locked in and coming to this season? I think for me, one thing is like, man, I'm only 26. I think a lot of people, not some fans or people in the media might view like, oh, you've been in a championship, you've been in a conference finals.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Like they might think I'm older than what I am. Boy, you look 30. You gotta kick it off early though. You gotta kick it off early. You gotta kind of understand where it come from. And that's why I say I never understood the, hey, I'm like, why is it his fault because he was successful early?
Starting point is 01:05:57 Like you came into league once, and he's like, like, don't age him for it. How you get mad at him for it? He was still killing. Nah, I mean, it's some truth to that. Like the expectation for me was just way higher because I went to the conference finals at 20. So for me being 26, it's like, man,
Starting point is 01:06:11 I got a lot of basketball left. A lot. And that feeling of winning the championship and having that parade, it was like, man, I want to do this shit again and again and again. And you know, my favorite players, like the guys I looked up to, they didn't just win one championship.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Like I didn't come into the league of like. Or make one All-Star game, you know. They had so many. They'd be your own guys, bro. That's what JT was on. The real one. He didn't say nothing about an All-Star game, bro. He didn't say nothing.
Starting point is 01:06:44 He didn't say nothing about an All-Star game, bro. He didn't say nothing. He didn't say nothing about it. He laughed. He laughed. He laughed. This is a Saint Louis shit. Oh, wait. He's challenging. He be your own guy.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Nah, bro, you know you're my damn man. You made the All-Star game like that. Not a lot of people can see that. Nah, I was just talking to you. You got one of them. It's like... I did. You gotta answer.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Kyle, I'm back. I was going You got to answer. I'm back. I was going team Jordan. I'm back. Hey, that's a game, man. Oh man. Well, I'm sorry. Please, Richard, tell me where'd you ask him to get? I think just like the motivation came from like, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Okay. I understand the space that I'm in and trying to maximize this window of like, I want to be one of the best players to ever play. And I understand the space that I'm in and trying to maximize this window of like, I wanna be one of the best players to ever play. And I understand the window that I have right now and God willing I'll stay healthy that, I feel like I put in the time and effort
Starting point is 01:07:37 to take care of my body, to eat the right things and work on my game to be one of the best that, I wanna be one of the best players to ever play. And not to say that it's about rankings, but I wanna accomplish everything that's in front of me. That's hard. I know we about to get out of here. I wanna ask you, like, he speak high on Al Horford.
Starting point is 01:07:57 That's his guy for real. Yeah, in fact. How you feel about him, man? Seeing him, watching him win the championship with you, bro. I know that was big. No, Al, that's like easily one of my favorite, if not my favorite teammate I ever had. From a professional standpoint,
Starting point is 01:08:11 like when I got drafted in 19, seeing how Al approached every practice day, every game day, every off day, is a testament to like his career. It's year 18 and like, it was year 17 last year, and we relied heavily on Al to help us win a championship. It's not a lot of people in year 17 that's starting on the team that's going to the finals.
Starting point is 01:08:34 And that game three against Indiana, he had like eight three. Yeah, he was caught over. Yeah, I remember. And it's like, we needed him to win that game. So Al took me under his wing since my first day and somebody that's always been there for me, somebody that I've learned a lot from, from the standpoint of having a routine.
Starting point is 01:08:55 I got my routine from watching Al have a routine. That's why he's been in the league for so long and been so successful. So, Al is one of the best people you will ever meet, one of the best players. All of fame, career, and to help him get over the top and win a championship was like, that was special. No, I was so happy for Al, bro,
Starting point is 01:09:19 because Al one of the coolest dudes ever, bro. He just do his job. He'll help you with anything, give you any advice, he want the best for everybody. So I knew when y'all got him back, when Brad went back and got him, I was like, man, y'all gonna have a special run. And he ain't stopping no time soon. Oh, he's still going.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Now keep getting that check, my boy, keep moving. Facts, facts. Show before we get out of here, obviously we know you played to win championships, but do you have any personal goals you can share with us this season, man? Man, I wanna win another championship, bro. Obviously, like, you wanna win MVP,
Starting point is 01:09:51 you wanna first team all-MBA again, and those things. And winning MVP or wanting to have that as a goal, that's not a negative thing. Nah, I don't know. Nah, that's what I'm just saying. If you're aspiring to do that, you playing at a high level, you playing efficient, you dominating your team is one of the best.
Starting point is 01:10:09 And even if you don't win, right, it's only one person that can win, but it's five people every year that's playing at an MVP level. So just trying to, you know, continue to dominate, being more efficient and understanding that this window we have, like trying to get better every day
Starting point is 01:10:25 and winning a championship and getting our ring the other night was one of the coolest moments and it was like, man, I wanna do that shit again and again and again. Yeah, for sure man. Listen man, we know you gotta get out here, man. We appreciate you sliding on this man. Me too.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Before you leave, though. Oh no, talk your shit about it. Because he's on Netflix. Starting five baby. And I caught my wife watching Starting Five and she was like, Hey, Jason's a real serious dude. I said, don't believe that.
Starting point is 01:10:51 That's not, he's funny. Like jokes. She was like, no, he's just so like mature. I didn't know he was only 26. I'm like. You think you're calling me immature? You calling me, you calling me WWE. No, I ain't saying he fake,
Starting point is 01:11:03 but I'm just saying like you always, that's why people think you older. You carry yourself super mature and put together, no shot to AE, but your clips against AE clips is totally different. Like, AE, I'm going crazy in this club. I ain't even reached out to these guys. And then you come to yours, it's like well seasoned.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Like, yeah, come here son. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, you know what I mean? You ain't like that. You ain't like that. But now you always carry this stuff like super mature. I'm like, I'm like, that's dope, bro.
Starting point is 01:11:36 It's dope to watch y'all show me, being on there. For sure, that now is a new season, but definitely check out the Star 5, you have it. How was that process of filming that, man? Like, you know what I'm saying? Obviously you always been a constant professional, but definitely check out the Star 5 you have. How was that process of filming that, man? Like, you know what I'm saying? Obviously you always been a constant professional, but to let people in like your personal life, that type of, no, the camera's always rolling.
Starting point is 01:11:50 How was that experience? They got better, or you got used to it as the season went on. Okay. Right. They did a good job of like blending in with all the other cameras that's always following you. Having people at your house and in your personal space and you know, with family time, it's different.
Starting point is 01:12:10 And right, I'm on camera, I'm more of a reserved guy like Tee said, like, yeah. I am that person that they saw on Netflix, but you know, I'm more open off the camera and things like that. But it was cool. And it was cool to be a part of the first season that they documented like, man,
Starting point is 01:12:29 they saw when I got covered 2K, they saw when I won the championship. So to be able to look back years from now, have those moments and my mom was on there, my son, some of my best friends. And just being on the first season like that, that was dope. And I was glad I was a part of it.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And I think the fire part about it is you got to see out of the media, it starts a lot of people like speaking down to you, like you said, the first season, like that was dope. And you know, I was glad I was a part of it. I think the fire part about it is you got to see all of the media experts, a lot of people like speaking down to you, like you said, the high expectations, how they spoke about you all year. And for you to win, especially the way they documented it, it's super fire because it made a lot of people just deal with the results of it. And I mean, that's like,
Starting point is 01:12:59 they never gonna stop talking about you. That's real. What I realized in that moment when we won is like, I thought I was gonna go on a rant and like, go back at everybody that ever had something to say about you. So what I realized in that moment when we won is like, I thought I was gonna go on a rant and like, go back and everybody that ever had something to say about me and it's like. Are you about to crash out? You think you are.
Starting point is 01:13:13 He's like, man, when we win, like I got receipts and it's like, man, that's not what this is about. When I'm holding up the trophy, my mom, my grandma crying, my son, I got my homies, I got 18,000 people in the stands. It's like, it's about the people that supported you and been rocking with you through the ups and downs. It's like, regardless if we win or not, they still probably talking about me on first take tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:13:36 So that's never gonna go away. So I don't wanna never trip off. You know what I'm saying. You're a VP this year though, bro. I'ma give it to you. It's only been four years, bro. You see how see how he like yeah, all that came to his mind when he grabbed the trophy. I'm crashing out.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Grab the trophy, say something now. That's me, that's why he is who he is. What you gonna say, Steven A, we coming for you. Yeah. I'm crashing out. Hey shout out to you for for getting on the FaceTime when you got the chip. He like, man, that was fire.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah, that was hard, bro. I was hyped for him. But he did the same thing we wanted to. I call him man, group project, you know, when he went ahead. See, see, I, see. See, that's what I'm saying. Like, Netflix though, y'all ain't get to see, like, he do this all day, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:24 He joke all day. That's why I get to joke it from. I started joking on them. I ain't joking on no other team. I don't mind, I joke on every team. But sure, man, we gotta get out of here. JT, we appreciate you, man. Tell the people that can drop the new,
Starting point is 01:14:36 the shoes, man, the new colorway dropping. We got a new colorway dropping, what's this? October, I think the second week of November. Okay. That's the one that my team get. Okay. Pike, we get this, October, I think the second week of November. Okay. That's the one that my team get. Okay. Pike, we here, so. Hey, we want to wait some.
Starting point is 01:14:51 Yeah, we are. Maybe we not. Okay. Before we got here, we hit some people back and grab some merch. We finally got the shit. ShopClub520.com. What's wrong with you, bruh? We locked in.
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