Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Draymond Green on Klay to Mavericks, Brunson extension, Carmelo vs. Tatum

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 86 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Draymond Green to discuss all things NBA offseason. The guys react to Klay Thompson leaving the Golden State Warriors for the Dallas Mavericks, as well as Jalen Brunson’s contract extension with the New York Knicks, and Paul George signing with the Philadelphia 76ers. The guys then debate Carmelo Anthony vs. Jayson Tatum, and whether Michael Jordan or LeBron James is the GOAT. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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See terms at DraftKings.com slash DFS. All right, we back. Another episode of Club 520. Live from Resorts World in Las Vegas, Nevada. You know what it is? It's a crossover episode. It's like when your badass cousins get together on Thanksgiving and take that walk, walk before the meal come out.

You know what it is? Special guest to my left, to my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Hinn out the prayer. At least how you doing, Nasty? Cool, Nasty. Let's get to it, baby. Nah, I got to tell you, Dre, you know what I'm saying? Some things can change in life. See, he got the new Hinn chain.

See, he started off with the gold, but he done elevated now. My boy out here shining in Vegas. I ain't seen no money. Club 520 doing really well. Dre, it ain't your turn to talk You got to order I have a question

Can I Add me to the show I need some of that money too Man come on You're a part of the network I'd be amazed Yes Actually

I actually forgot Your Your shoes Because you ended the season how I thought you would. So that's my fuck up. You know, I didn't know. My timing was messed up. I came on. That's the after the game.

But let's get to it, DJ For sure, for sure To my right, my dog Young Nacho, Young Tig How you doing, man? I'm chilling, bro Chilling Glad we got family back in the building

You know, he said He gonna be our distant cousin On the podcast So it's all good Come on, man You know what it is To my left Special guest return

We don't have some people Sleeping in the block on 520 But his family always Will slide under Full-time, full-time champ. You know what it is. Draymond Green. Big dog.

Appreciate you pulling back up on us, homie. Man, I appreciate y'all having me. First time was too short. We was just getting into the rhythm, so I appreciate y'all having me back on. I've been looking forward to it. I watch all the shows. Y'all relax on me today. Nah.

I'll die on the day. Cool it. We cool the day. But we got to talk about, okay, so you're gone the black forces is done white laces with the jays okay new chain you feel me that's that that's that i'm at 20 months like we're going somewhere after this so i had to just put on a little day outfit. Respect. Respect. I like that. A little day outfit and body powder for the three-year-old boss.

It's a little hot out here. You got your rack? Yes, I got it. It's only right, bro. It's only right. My boy carrying around a soldier rack just in case shit get iffy. So. That's how Mike need to bring out our shirt.

He need't get Mike to look like a crawled sweater. Hey, we in Vegas. We got to bring this up, Mike. I love you,

but I got to do this. You know what I'm saying? We had a good time. We was out together, me and T, you know what I'm saying?

A couple other people. Now, we had one last round of drinks, right? Yeah. Could you please tell the people

what was provided to us as a beverage from Freaky Mike himself? Freaky Mike, bro, he ordered us lemon drop with sugar on the rim. Whoa. I said, I ain't know what was going on. You don't got no mic today, I know.

You can't defend yourself. I know, but I don't know what's going on. So I'm drinking a drink. My wife's with me, so I'm like, maybe she ordered this. You know what I mean? I'm like, yo, here you go, your drink. And Mike's like, no, that's for y'all. Wow.

I did not say that. What'd you do? I had one of my... Oh. I said I needed three shots of the beer. And she said, do you want three shots? I said, I want the shots. And she handed me that.

And it was $33. He counting them up. Yeah, you out of pocket. July 12th Not June 12th You paid You paid $33 A drink for some

Lemon drop With sugar on the rim Sugar on the rim bro He made his wife That's crazy I'm telling Sierra I'm telling Sierra I ain't wondering

But I had to take Homie to home Because it was A major violation I didn't know What was going on We was in the club, toasting up. We was out of pocket.

Out of pocket. As a conglomerate of 520, we was worse than that. We drunk it. We accepted it. We accepted the drink. I'm out of pocket. We totally used the situation. You out of pocket saying it ain't true.

Drink my crazy. Welcome to the show, man. This is crazy, man. This is where you can put your sponsorship, right? Hey, man, it's been a while since we talked All-Star. Man, how is life? How's everything going, man? The show's been going crazy, man.

I'll tell you one thing I love was the championship series you had during the finals. That was super, super dope, bro. That was dope. Talk to the champions, you know what I'm saying? Talk your shit. And it was good. You know what I'm saying? It's good to see you going crazy in this space.

I think one thing people need to give you a flyers on is like a lot of people getting into the game but that soon as the game over you hop and go instant reaction shit a lot of people getting account hey you were a pioneer

in the podcast game for that bro you kind of made a lane for a lot of people to do that particularly this industry I got to give you a flyers off top

with that bro I appreciate that bro yeah bro it started when I got kicked out of that game I ain't got nothing else to do it's Memphis like ain't got nothing else to do.

It's Memphis. Ain't nothing to do in Memphis. Nothing. Nothing. And I left. I was hot, by the way, because I didn't feel like it. I didn't grab a brother like that. He went to the ground.

It ain't my fault he's not strong enough. But so I was hot. I got kicked out of the game. I just walked back to the hotel. I don't know why I was walking down the streets of Memphis either because they hated me at that point. You brave. You play a dangerous game, Dre.

Respect. I walked to the hotel, and I'm like, you know what? I'm about to do my podcast right now. As soon as the game ends, I'm on here. And, man, I think that was one of the best things I ever did because it really sparked an interest for that real time update after a game and that's been my thing now people was telling me like yo you came podcast you you in the playoff and then we won a championship and everybody shut up so it was awesome that's

cold bro like how do you feel like when you see other players doing now it's like yeah or is it like dang what you trying to take my life for? Or is it like, nah, it's like an honor? Nah, I think it's space for all of us, man. Yeah, in fact. Because we all got stories to tell. Like, I can't do what y'all do. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that ain't my thing. You know what I'm saying? I think what's so special about this space is, like, you can carve out your own lane and whatever it is that you want to do as y'all has done. So when I see guys doing it now, I have two thoughts. A, I like that you're doing that. I think that's super dope that you're doing that.

But B, make sure you're in a space to do it first. I see some guys start now and like if you start now because you're trying to make that your main job great go for it but you're not in a space right now to do that and try to make it in basketball because you ain't made it in that yet so happy you said that and so i i kind of look at it that way like Like, I'd be excited as hell to see everybody doing their thing. I think it's dope. But at the same time, I get a little worried that people trying to do too much too soon. Like, I'm on the wrong side of my down slide. Yeah.

Like, I'm headed into year 13. I probably got two more. And so, it's important to start building for the next thing. For sure. But for some of these guys, they be in year three still trying to figure it out with a podcast like i love that you're doing it i love that you found something that you want to do but you in year three and ain't done shit nobody really want to hear from you thanks you know i'm saying like as great as y'all's show has been and where it's gone, it all started because you were an all-star and an NBA champion. And so you're going to naturally gain eyes by that.

And then it's like, oh, man, him, DJ, they funny as fuck. It's a good-ass show. But people started watching because it's like, oh, Jeff Teague is talking about the NBA. He an all-star and he a champion. I want to hear what he got to say. And I think some guys get started too soon where they ain't got nothing to say. And whatever it is you're going to say, nobody kind of want to hear it because you ain't proven nothing. And for me, you still got a brand that you got to protect.

And so we was talking about it on your show earlier when we were just speaking. A lot of guys be nervous to come on shows like this. But like you said, you established you got your brand. And you can shoot the shit if you want to. You there. A lot of young guys, they don't understand that. Like, yo, I'm shooting the shit. I'm doing this.

I'm telling all these. Like, bro, build your stuff up. Get to year 10. And then have some fun And do all that Don't do that in year 4 And you're not that guy Now if you that guy If you Trey Young

Like Trey Young got a podcast He that guy Absolutely Like you know Do your thing bro You that guy But if you a guy That was like

In a situation like I was Or like you know You trying to find yourself And you a young guy And you still just Trying to establish yourself Trey Young got a 200 million dollar country Yeah Life is great or like you know you're trying to find yourself and you're a young guy and you're still just trying to establish yourself for a young guy a 200 million dollar country

yeah life is great y'all can do a lot of other things yeah like man make 200 million dollars yeah

if you ain't got that chill you know what I mean but it's a space like you said it's a space for everybody for sure

for sure man and I know I mean with the social media it's so encouraged everybody have their own brand quote unquote but the whole part of having a brand is having a substance behind that because if you don't have the substance behind it For sure. For sure, man. I know, I mean, with the social media, it's so encouraged that everybody have their own brand, quote, unquote. But the whole part of having a brand is having substance behind that. Because if you don't have the substance behind it, it can fuck you up and the brand you're trying to build at the same time.

It's kind of like self-sabotage. But you talked about that Trae Young contract. I don't know if y'all seen the news today, but Jalen Brunson signed that extension with the Knicks today. Yeah. Word. I have not seen that. He took a discount. 154.

Four years, 154. If he could have signed next year, he would have had that that. He took a discount. 154. Four years, 154. If he could have signed next year, he would have had that super duper. 250-something. He took a $100 million discount. He did to Draymond Green. If I signed that four for $100, if I waited, I could have got like four for $180. But I need to lock my money in.

I'll fuck with that. I'm so glad you said it. Don't nobody feel you. Bro, I'll fuck with that. I'm so glad you said it. I said, don't nobody feel you. Bro, I'll fuck with that. No, I'd rather lock a hundred in

to make sure I got that hundred. Yeah. Chasing that extra six, your 80 and then I don't get, I just wasn't willing

to take that risk. And Jalen may not be willing to take that risk, but he different. Like he, you the number one option on the New York Knicks. He be willing to take that risk, but he different. Like he, you, you,

you the number one option. He was going to get the New York Knicks. He was going to get that. You get, and by the way, not only are you the number one option on a New York Knicks and that's cool, but the city of New York love you. You going to get that too.

He was getting that. I think he won. They said he took less because he wanted to build a team. Well, you know, Josh Hart, some of them guys are going to be up for extensions. I don't know if Josh Hart is. I think he just. They said he took less because he wanted to build the team. You know Josh Hart. Some of them guys are going to be up for extensions. I don't know who Josh Hart is.

I think he just got one too. And Mike Hillbrown. I don't know who he was trying to get paid. I'm not sure. Can I tell you something? I don't mean to cut you off. Can I tell you something? It's the New York Knicks, bro.

They can afford it. You ain't got to take no discount. Of course. For them to get paid? You ain't got to. My situation, again, my situation again my situation is different because steph making 270 clay making 180 yeah all right something got to give cool i could take a little i could take less but he's a top guy yes sir let's sure by the way let let

josh hart or somebody else take less. They in my role. Not wanting them to take less, but guess what? Steph Curry ain't take a penny less. I feel that. And neither did Klay Thompson ain't take a penny less. Absolutely so. If it's going to work, somebody do. Well, guess what?

I ain't really expecting them to take less. Yeah, they should. I don't know what he doing. I'm happy for him. I mean, he still got the max, though. The max extension. Yeah. He ain't get the max. That's $100 million. But like a man still got the max, though. The max extension. Yeah. He didn't get the max.

That's $100 million. But like a man told me one time, bro, he was like, if I told you, you was going to. I remember when I signed for 32. Damn, that sounds so crazy. Shout out to Max Christie. Max Christie just got that. But I signed for 32. I signed for 32.

Smart dog. Shout out to God. I'm happy for you, bro. I'm not hating that. I swear to God, I'm not. But I remember I signed that, and a man was was like if i told you he was gonna make 32 million dollars two years ago you would have told me i'd do anything for that and i was like he was like so why the you playing around now i was like you're right so i feel like him he probably like his dad probably was like man

if i told you he's gonna get 154 million dollars you want to sign that he probably you're right it you might get hurt next year i know know Rick, too. You might roll your mic about you. Question, though. I wouldn't sign it, though. No chance. Question, though. So, I've seen quite a few extensions this summer. And it left me with a question of who's representing these guys?

Because did they, like, also, did they not? And by the way, I'm never going to question someone getting some money because all this money is life-changing for us where we all come from. But some of these extensions I've been looking at, like Jalen signed a four-year, do they not realize there's TV money coming up? Them deals about to get bigger. So now he took four for 154.

In a year and a half, he going to be making mid-level. Yeah, facts. Because the match is going to be 80. I think he got an option, though. I was going to say the details. I would love to see if he has an option after year two. I would really like to see that. He better have an option.

I would love to see that. The option not going to come until the year three. If it's a four-year deal, the option ain't coming until after year three. That's going to be – which the deal, if it's an extension, the deal don't kick in until next season, which is the season that the TV money starts. So that's going to be three years on new TV money. And that's three years of playing.

Your body wearing tear. And you play for Tibbs. You know, that's dog years on the court. Yeah. That's time to do Tibbs. Time to do Tibbs. I love Tibbs. But, man, Tibbs you know that's dog ears on the court yeah that's time time to do Tibbs like that time to do Tibbs I love Tibbs

man Tibbs you playing 40 I wish I would've met JB we don't know the details yet these niggas up here off this Gila

we don't have him I mean I would've nah cause he already coming off a $100 million deal I would've I would've got the two so I ain't gonna to lie to you.

If you're telling me you can gamble one year for 100 extra M's, you're going to take that gamble. And I already made 100. And you're that nigga. You're going to take that extra M's. Yeah, I made 100. Yeah, I made 100. By the way, they may not like my eight points next year, but he getting 28.

That's a different situation, man. Respect, respect. I don't know. I'm happy for him, though. Oh, yeah, I love it. Well deserved because he got it out the mud, and I couldn't appreciate anybody who get it out the mud. So since you're the second-round pick and we family,

where does JB start moving up in that second-round pick? He got to win. He got to win. He not top five? He not. And the only reason he not is because all the guys that ends in my top five, now, he may say, Draymond, get out here. I'll replace you, which I'm cool with.

I'm fine. I ain't fighting over that. Shoot your father. Joker. Yoke. Joker. Manu. Manu.

No particular order. Myself? Absolutely. I was just looking at this list the other day gilbert is not in my top five um second hey jackson you remember who else was on my list oh dennis rodman for sure oh yeah damn sure damn Dennis Rodman man worm

look shout out to worm I got a couple worm graphic tees but I get to the rebound and all that shit bro but um

he was a very very important piece let me hear the fifth one he a hall of famer and respect the numbers and respect the numbers he did in Vegas

more importantly fuck on the court respect the numbers he did in Vegas. More importantly, fuck on the court. Respect the numbers he did in Vegas. He top off that long. He's first round. Lottery. Absolutely.

Hummer like LeBron. High school. Off the court activities. It's Wilk to him. Oh, for sure. Oh, yeah. That's one. That's a hell of a front quarter.

Yeah, yeah. For sure. Y'all got to give me a five then. I got Gil up there too, bro. Just so far as. Mark Gasol? Man, never. Mark Gasol, nice.

Mark Gasol, great defense. Great anchor. We should have put Power Mark in the brothers conversation. We slept on them. We slept on the Ball brothers too. Yeah, we did. Mark Gasol, for sure, bro. Definitely a hooper, bro i'm taking gilbert bro

oh i'm taking jaylen brunson over gilbert arenas oh like they had they run about the same gilbert had a gilbert my favorite player yeah no i wore zero because of gilbert but gilbert run was like it was only like four or five years if jaylen brunson keep going for like two or three more years he gonna surprise you i agree yeah i'm just talking about strictly just game though y'all it was only like four or five years if Jalen Brunson keep going for like two or three more years he gonna surprise Gil I agree I'm just talking about strictly just game though

Jalen Brunson game is nasty he's cold I said top five first I don't want to put him in there if you just going off game though

then Gilber's probably number one yeah I'm going off strictly game just going off game he's probably number one you think Gilber is nastier than Mantle Gil game is crazy crazy strictly game he's probably number one you think Gilbert Nassir the mantle

Gil game is crazy crazy oh my god crazy bro bravo or zero yeah his Gil game

is like Gil game at the time he was in the NBA just off pure game he was probably top five for sure one of the better

bigger guards bro ever bro for sure fast to be 6'4 going he was definitely as five. For sure. One of the better, bigger guards, bro, ever, bro. For sure. Fast to be 6'4". He was definitely as fast as John Wall, bro. Young guy. The only problem I have with Gil's resume to say top five is if you really look at the numbers, he only did it for like four years. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, because Gil was really paid in full in the NBA. You know what I'm saying? So it was a stimulation to that. Like I tell people about Penny all the time. He give me slack about Penny. It ain't no diss. He love Penny. But I'm saying, like, just off game, bro, he's one of the greatest point guards ever, bro.

He is, bro. What makes you great is, like, your longevity, bro. I agree. You saying pure hooper or if you great is like your longevity bro like i agree you saying pure hooper or if you just like the eye test you're gonna be like yeah he cold but your longevity make you great that's why lebron is so special like bro he playing for 23 years at that level it don't like you show longevity like him playing for as long as he did winning championships his longevity is gonna be greater than gil because he played this long, he was successful this long. His numbers or whatever that one year he might have had, it don't count.

That's why I don't talk about myself like that because you made the All-Star one time. Chill, bro. You had a decent career, though, bro. Yeah, I did. You were very consistent, for sure. Yeah, I did, but I get it, though. Jalen Brunson do this for three, four more years. Well, I wish people would show Mello that type of love then. Mello? I don't want to know. Yes, I did. But I get it, though. Jalen Brunson do this for three, four more years.

Well, I wish people would show Mello that type of love then. Mello? Mello? Yes, bro. Who don't love Mello? I'm just, I'm not. The peers, y'all show respect. I'm not saying y'all don't respect Mello.

That Tatum vs. Mello one-on-one conversation. Outside world, bro. For real. He get a lot of slack. But we don't respect the outside world opinion. That's a fact. Okay. I'm just saying people never mention longevity when they speak of him.

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They play one-on-one. Who do you think is a tougher cover? Mellow. Yes, JT. JT on your ass. By the way, JT is my man. I love JT. But the thing that Mellow did different than just about anyone

was the pressure that he put on the rim. Bro. Like, Melo put crazy pressure on the rim, where as opposed to, I actually have told JT this before. Like, bro, get to the cup. Yeah, he settled. Like, sometimes you settle too much. I told him after we beat him in the championship, like,

yo, I just want you to know, like, our stuff was predicated on you settling. Like, you settle sometimes too much. And when he get to the hole, he can't be stopped. Nah. And you can't, like, his handle, he's 6'10". You can't stop him once he get to the hole. But Melo, man, I was playing mellow my first year first or second

year david lee had got suspended steph him clay they had got into this thing with the pacers night before the scuffle yeah i remember george hill got thrown around absolutely i remember that steph hit somebody leg and fell down yeah yeah. So that, David Lee got suspended the next game. We was in the garden the next night. So I started and I had to guard Mello. He caught the ball in the mid post, square faced up, and put his head down, drove to the rim, went right into me, laid the ball up, he missed.

It probably could have been a foul, but it's borderline. He created all the contact. They didn't call a foul foul He looked at the rough like Call the foul He went back to the same spot The next play Put his head down And ran through me

And got the foul But that's the pressure He put on the rim All the time To put that type of pressure On the rim I just think that makes you A tougher cover

Bro that dude's second jump was so fast. He missed his own rebound more than anybody on the wing that I've ever seen, bro. I used to think Melo, I remember one time we played him. He went, I was in Atlanta. He was in the guard. He went crazy on us. But it was all off of pull-ups and second jumps. He'd shoot a jumper.

He'd hit that. He'd go to the wrong post-up, miss it. Second jump layup.'m like damn and i i was like god damn you like a bull in a china shop bro like you strong as hell like mellow yeah he was cold first step crazy too greatest first step come on bro ever bro go first step that's my favorite part people i don't be speaking on because niggas be saying i'm so much but he's one of the greatest scorers ever bro who don't want to be speaking on him because niggas be saying I hate him so much. But he's one of the greatest scorers ever, bro, who don't really get his just due. You're right, though. He don't get his due.

For real, bro. He don't get his due. It bothers me. Like, I didn't like how he was out of the league. Like, me and bro watched how Houston treated him, like, back at home. Out of pocket. I was like, yeah, it's crazy. Him and Iverson had the worst treatment I've ever seen of, like, superstars I've ever seen in the NBA.

Like, Iverson at one time, I remember when he played for the Memphis Grizzlies, it was my rookie year. And it was just like, that's Allen Iverson bro, what y'all doing? Like nah bro, this don't look right. Y'all got him at the end of the- nah this don't look right. Yeah bro, that's our guy bro, you can't do that to A.I. bro. Yeah, and like same thing with Melo, like seeing him in Houston, it's like nah down, bro. You can't do that to A.I., bro. Yeah, and, like, same thing with Melo. Like, seeing him in Houston, it's like, nah, bro. Nah. I think it came out like a goddamn EBC game. We had to play another game.

I said, man, where's Melo? He come out, nigga, middle of the game, just walking out. Going through it. Yep, sitting down. They caught him. He like, man, fuck it. I'll get out there for a little bit. It's Melo, bro.

It's like, no. Look at that. That was literally the last game he played, bro. I rockets. We was there and you talk about the longevity situation And that's why I think like you said it needs to be more honest, especially people in your situation You know i'm saying for you to be a 13 year vet same organization Like that's those things need to be praised more. We kind of phase people out But it's like we can't do that because you have to respect what people did people ain't just doing this people Ain't just staying in the league off strengths. they'd be waiting to get certain people out the

way so people will stay around even no matter how good you are however you kind of not as good as you were we need more respect on shit like that for sure i sure thought this was on his way to the hornets oh right why you thought he was going to the hornets. I said, after the last few games, I said, yeah, they sick of his ass. Y'all give him to Charlotte. Hello, my nigga Kree. He's going to be driving his golf cart. I'm going to be driving a Lambo in Charlotte. It's up. That's him, dude.

A yellow Lambo. Fired up. Hey, I'll tell you what, though. I pray to God, if they ever feel the need to get rid of me, at least send me like send me somewhere don't say great to the pistons they gotta do you right I'm fucking around with you bro they gotta do you right if they're gonna send me to any like non-winning organization, then send me to Detroit. Yeah, thanks.

It's the crib. Yeah, thanks. I can make you do what you do there. Yeah. It's the crib. So,

if they're going to send me to any non-winning organization, I'd much rather it be Detroit than Charlotte. You done gave too much to the city,

bro. You got to go where you want to go. I hope I don't go anywhere Yeah, but I'm saying We talking about Of course you need to finish out And go

But if it came to that You need to have a No, I'm not going to Orlando I wanna go I think they have enough respect Out of respect, for sure I mean, that's what Atlanta did for me When I wanted to go to Indiana

Yeah, so if he got it, for sure Damn, that's cold, bro That's cold Yo, yo It be your man, bro Hey, got it, for sure. Damn, that's cold. That's cold. Yo, yo. Be your man, bro. Hey, yo. Hey, we got to ask, what happened the second time? That double zero, that boomer, that boomer tee.

I asked not to go there. I said, can y'all please not send me to Atlanta? I had my nigga jump down the track. I didn't want to go there, bro. That's how much of Minnesota that fuck with me. I was like, bro, please don't send me to Atlanta. I just want to go somewhere they trying to win, bro. I'm still like, I'm averaging 14 off the bench, bro. That's how much of Minnesota they fuck with me. I was like, bro, please don't send me to Atlanta. I just want to go somewhere they trying to win, bro. I'm still like,

I'm averaging 14 off the bench, bro. Yeah. I'm trying to be the sixth man of the year or something, bro. He said, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going to Atlanta. I was like, dude.

Yeah, fuck you too. So I got to ask Dre, obviously, you know what I'm saying? We talked last All-Star finishing out the season. I would say probably more of an emotional season for a lot of things going on. How was that mentally, you know what I'm saying, we talked last All-Star, finishing out the season. I would say probably more of an emotional season for a lot of things going on. How was that mentally, you know what I'm saying,

obviously knowing what took place, some of the things that could have took place, how was it just getting through the rest of the season? Honestly, it was fun to play again. And it felt like a weight was off my shoulders for the rest of the year except for when something went wrong. When something went wrong, like for instance,

when I got ejected in Orlando like two minutes into the game, whatever it was, three minutes into the game. We had a bunch of black forces that day. I went on hand lights. He beat Rasheed Wallace's record. We had a group text on live, bro. It was like,

yeah, get the forces running, bro. It's a guy sitting to a post. So, when I got kicked out of that game, like,

I hadn't had a tech since I've been back. And so then I get kicked out of that game and everybody like, yo, look, he haven't learned anything. Number one, let's stop that.

He haven't learned anything. Like I'm a fucking dummy. Like I'm not dumb. He hasn't learned anything. Blah, blah, blah. Also like I play basketball,

like stop acting like I'm like sticking somebody out. I play basketball. Um, but it was the whole, like, sticking somebody out. I play basketball. But it was the whole, like, he haven't learned anything. He's this. He's that. He's a problem. Look at Steph.

Steph's emotional. And Steph told me after the game, like, yo, I need you out there. Like, whatever it is, I just need you out there. Steve came to me after the game and was like, yo, you good? I'm like, yeah. He's like, great. I'm not about to make like I'm not I'm not about to make a bunch out of this. Like you getting kicked out of that game.

You're going to get kicked out sometimes. By the way, I need you to get kicked out sometimes. I need you to be who you are. No, we can't make a thing out of it, but I just want you to know you've been absolutely incredible since you've been back. You just got kicked out of that game. We got to bounce back tomorrow. I'm like, no problem, coach. I appreciate it. And so the roller coaster kind of ended once I got back, except for when something like that happened.

But I was so happy to play basketball again and just, like, be around the guys again, like, compete at a high level, and most importantly, kill the narrative. Because the only, when you go through something like I was going through last year, the only way out of it is actually to play well. Like, if, like, you can apologize as much as you want you can do as many podcasts until you play well people don't move on and so my goal coming back was like yo i just got to come back and play well and we got to win and when i came back we was winning games i was playing well and they kind of all went away but if we wasn wasn't winning, as soon as we started losing,

oh, it's his fault. Like, man, stop. That's crazy. So it was one of the most trying seasons I've ever been through, for sure. But I do feel like it also provided the most growth for me in a season than I've ever had. It required and forced me to grow in a way that when you're winning, you don't have to because nobody cares.

You're winning. So it is what it is. When you're winning and that happens, it's like, look, that's the heart of a champion. They're winning. All of a sudden sudden you're not winning and now you're an idiot and you're uncontrollable and you shouldn't be here and so um it forced me to grow because we wasn't winning and i had to understand that when you're not

winning the things that you get away with When you winning Ain't the same Yeah it's real I wanted to ask you No go ahead I said I wanted to ask you About Clay's departure You know Y'all had a

Man One of the best runs ever bro Y'all Trio I know it's the Splash Brothers bro But I ain't saying it Cause you here bro

It's really the The big three for real With you How is it man How you dealing with your man It's really the big three for real with you. How is it, man? How you dealing with your man that's sliding? To be honest with you, I haven't

given it much thought. Because I really don't want to face the reality until I have to face the reality. It's kind of just this thing that's floating around out there and then people be like, yo, how you feel about Clay? And I'm like, ah's kind of just this thing that's, like, floating around out there. And then people be like, yo, how you feel about Clay? And I'm like, ah, like, ah, I don't know.

Like, I haven't really allowed my mind to process it. Needless to say, I said all of that to say, I'm happy as hell he gone. And the reason I'm happy he's gone is because he wasn't happy no more. And as a brother, I only want what's best for you, not what's best for me, not what's best for this team, not what's best for the organization. Like, we spent so much time around each other. As you know, you spend more time around these guys than you do your family. And to see him unhappy, like, the way I saw him unhappy last year,

and I wouldn't even necessarily say unhappy. He was uneasy, though. Like, just bothered. And to see him that, to see someone that doesn't have a care in the world like like if you if you walk around our organization and you say yo tell me about clay everybody will say to you oh he live in his own world yeah and everybody cool with that so to see someone that does not have a single care in the world all of a sudden just like can't shake nothing yeah that bothered me you know what i'm saying like that that that

to me was more far more hurtful than him leaving like to see somebody that just love to play basketball like that man love to play basketball he love, that man love to play basketball. He love going on his boat and he love his dog. That's about it. And to see him, like, not happy with that thing, it's time. You know what I'm saying? And so I think it was time for him. I think it was time for the organization.

Like, we've been in the tax for six straight years. Nobody talk about that side of, you know what I'm saying? Like, Clay left. We not in the tax for six straight years nobody talk about that side of you know i'm saying like clay left we're not in the tax no more the organization get a chance to reset because at the end of the day regardless of how uneasy he was last year regardless of how bothered he was we built that organization that's a fact that organization was the laughing stock of the nba that's a fact and so in doing we've done, there's still a care for the organization. Like, we was just about to make some trades last week, and I told them straight up, like, yo, that trade helped me.

Like, it'll help me right now in my career these last couple years and stuff. But I've always spoke to y'all from a place of what's best for this organization. I won't stop now. That's a bad trade. Like, don't do that trade. Like, I disagree with it, although it's going to help me right now. And so what Clay just did, and nobody will give him credit for it, what Clay just did is he just relieved this organization

of the financial hardships that the organization was starting to face. Right? He's still doing for the organization. But nobody will say that. Nobody will say him leaving because they'll only make it about, ah, he was unhappy, which, again, he wasn't the happiest last year. But by the way, you've been through this shit. Who is?

This is a hard job, man. Yeah, that's fair. Like, you go through it and forgot it guy that's been happy for 12 straight years to have one unhappy year, I think we'll all do just that. But in saying that, he provided cap relief for this organization on his way out. You know what I'm saying? Got some picks sent back to the organization on his way out. And I believe in second-round picks.

I got no choice but to believe you know what I'm saying so I'm happy for him I'm happy he left because I never I I had I did not enjoy at all seeing him the way I saw him last year yeah because he can care less whether the sky is blue or green on a daily basis. But now every day something is at him. That wasn't fun to watch. So it was good for him. It was good for everybody.

But that 31 looked crazy. It's disgusting. It's nasty. Whatever that is. That 31 looked nuts. Somebody said to me, like, yo, 31, that's Reggie Miller number. And I said, yeah. But he

Clay Thompson. Clay out of pocket for wearing 31. And then Festus and Zili wore 31. And like, Festus tried to go at me on Instagram, like, what's wrong with 31? I'm like, you wore it.

What you mean? Shout out to Fester, bro. We seen him at, uh, we did a, uh, we did a hit go. Yeah, we did a hit and see five out there. This one, this one,

right here. But he had a pocket fence. Watch your mouth. He had a pocket fence. Listen, we won a championship together. We was drafted together. But if you wore the number,

Klay probably shouldn't wear the number. He's like, well, you, you're wearing MJ's 23. It worked out for you. And quite frankly, Spass, MJ is top two ever in NBA history. Top two. Hold on.

Top two. Hold on. What you mean? There's a guy named LeBron James that's number one. So he's top two. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. So he's top two. Is it the last slide? Is your speech over? You was on your third good market. We didn't want to interrupt. He's top two. The gap between Michael Jordan and me is far smaller than the gap between Clay Thomas and the Festus and Zealy.

Hey, MJ's top two. and I'm not top 100. But the gap between us two and the gap between Festus and Zeely. It's just a nigga that's 100 that you better than. Possibly. But the point of the gap. MJ is MJ. And the gap between me and him and Clay and Fessy

is like the size of the Empire State Building. This is why we can't get no fucking guests. Because the damn guests we get come over here and y'all think it's us. And these niggas. Respectfully, Fessy said that's my number on the pocket. That's great. What's wrong with 31?

Fessy, did you wear it on the pocket. That's great. What's wrong with 31? Hello? Fessy, did you wear it because Reggie got a bad hand? Big man with bad hands. That's what's wrong with 31. I see what you did in Kentucky that year, bro. You played really well against my brother. I love you, Fessy, but you had to get it because there was no point in you commenting and talking about what's wrong with 31. Look at Clay in 31.

Get number one. Get number 10. Kyrie got 11. Cool. Get it. I get that. No problem. 31?

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what separates them on the court to you? What separates them on the court to me is... To make you give Brian the push. What separates them on the court to me is, I think, number one, Brian's intention to make... Brian's intention to make people better the guys that LeBron has made better like did you see them play without him yeah it is like come on

his but he was an all-star with my booby Gibson exactly how's your name and he was intentional about making those guys better. MJ made guys better just because of how good he was. Yeah. It wasn't like, ah, think this way, so I'm going to do this to get this guy this. No, you're just so good that then that guy can get off how good you are. Yeah. And I think that's a different thing. I also think a two-year break in the middle of a crazy run is like,

that's heaven on earth. Like, to have two years off from this thing that we do in the middle of a run and then come back and keep running. Like, you can bro, like, you can't act like he just went six in a row. But he went to go play

baseball though. He left and came back in a crazy sport. I love, I love baseball. I'm a big Yankee fan, but they, they body ain't going,

they play a lot of games. Yeah. They body not going through. Alright, but imagine, imagine you take two years off and you don't pick up a ball

and you start doing something else trying to be good at that. You start playing pickle off and you don't pick up a ball and you start doing something else trying to be good at that. You start playing pickleball and you like, fuck it, I'm going to go all in on pickleball. I agree. By the way, I ain't Michael Jordan. You're still the best in the world, bro. When you come back.

I want to be like Mike. That's Michael Jordan. However, A, MJ crazy. Yeah, for sure. I don't think he ever put the basketball down. Like, in my opinion, I just don't think so. I don't believe that either.

He crazy like that. I think he went all in on baseball to try to be good. I don't believe that he did. No, because how competitive he is, to Jeff's point, he wanted to be so good at that that he locked in. He was so good at basketball, I can come back and do it again. Them niggas can't fuck with me. I think he did, but I think he quickly realized, I'm not as good at this thing as this.

Let me pick this ball back up. Yeah, I mean, after a while, he probably was like, yeah. You kind of weak at basketball. You look like me at Michigan State football, MJ. I got a question for that, too. Bill Thomas, Antupo Kubo highlights at you at Michigan State football, MJ. I got a question for that, too. The honest Antupo Kubo highlights of you at Michigan State. The football is crazy. I swear to God.

How they clipped you up on YouTube. They killed me. It was crazy. With the music. The music making it work. The soundtrack making it work. They do the Detroit music. That's great.

We're going to keep talking about the MJ stuff, but when we get to that, I got a great question for you. Nah, go ahead. We here. Nah, we here. Nah, because you know how Austin Rivers said

30 people could play football or basketball players could play football. Like, you tried it in college. I did not. Do you think like 30 NBA players could play football?

They lied to y'all. I really didn't try to play football. What was you doing? What happened was This is the real excuse. I really didn't try to play football. What happened was Talked about this on brand Davis podcast by the way, we did II so what happened was I Y'all football tap in, bro. We in the top 25.

We not weak. We not weak. And when I was there, we was top 10. No, fuck that. Tell your story. So, y'all, so when you were there, did y'all team go to bowl game? Yeah, we went to the orange bowl. We went to the orange bowl.

We went to the orange bowl. Y'all went to the orange bowl? We went to the orange bowl. We had a top five pick. We had Aaron Curry was top five pick. Who? Aaron Curry. Who? He went to Oakland, matter of fact.

He was top five pick with the linebackers. Trayvon the motherfucker. Hey, don't do AC like that. Trayvon the motherfucker. He retired after four years. So this is what happened. Over Christmas break, you know, nobody's on campus. Yeah.

We still have games. Christmas break, you know, nobody's on campus. Yeah. We still have games. And the team come and, like, get announced at the game at halftime or at a timeout to announce their bowl game before they take off for the bowl game. So they came over to announce their bowl game during the game. And I said to Coach D at the time, Coach D'Antonio was the coach.

I said, Coach D, I want to play in the spring game. And in my mind, I'm just like, I just want to play because I know this is my last opportunity ever in life to play football. So I just want to go out there and play a couple plays. He's like, all right, cool. This is December. So fast forward to March or April, whenever the spring game was. It was on Thursday.

On Monday, I went to his office. Like, Coach D, you told me I could play in the spring game. He's like, all right, cool. Come out to practice tomorrow. We got to practice Tuesday, Wednesday off the game on Thursday. Perfect. I was at practice. They gave me the weakest shoulder pads ever.

I thought nothing of it because I was just excited to go play. So they got me out there looking like an offensive lineman, no problem. When I look back on it, it was all a setup. Shoulder pads was fucked up. I didn't have good cleats like they had me out there looking back it was crazy so i played before the vc and we made it bad they clipped you up against dra up against Drake in Kentucky doing the warm-ups, but it had diversions. I'm sorry, y'all.

That's crazy. By the way, I'm going to tell you, when I get to this end of the story, you're going to know why me and Drake not the same. Because Drake just sucked at basketball. I did something in football in that game that was special i'm gonna get there so but here's so start with the pads i ain't think nothing of it i look back on now like you fucking idiot but anyway i go out to practice and they showing me all this stuff like man if somebody pressed up on you you swipe like this and go through you come here swipe down go you

and so i'm like okay cool cool like they're showing me all this stuff then they like yo if You swipe like this and go through. You come here, swipe down. And so I'm like, okay, cool, cool. Like they're showing me all this stuff. Then they're like, yo, if the linebacker is six yards off the line of scrimmage, then you need to run a seven and out. But seven yards and out. But if he five yards off, you need to go six. And then I'm like, yo, so y'all want me to be counting these little dots on this line,

these little lines on this field? Count how many yards he is? By the way, what if I misjudge a little? And so, number one, I realized right away, A, why so many freshmen redshirt in football. The learning curve is insane. And B, I gained a lot of appreciation for quarterbacks and i understand why sometimes the quarterback throw the ball way over there and be looking at the receiver that's over there like yo what the fuck you doing one of y'all miscounted something yeah so we go on we go to practice they

show me all the stuff boom practice in thursday i come for the game boom they tell me you're gonna run this play you're gonna line up at tight end. This is your route. Boom. We get to the huddle. Quarterback says, we're going on set hit. We're going on set hit. I got my route. I'm excited as hell. I'm ready to go. Get in my three-point stance. I ain't looking at the ball. I'm excited

as shit. I'm about to go catch a pass. I forgot all fundamentals. I look at the ball when it's snapped. No, none of that. that so I'm looking ahead and I got this big-ass defensive DN lined up over me so I'm like I just got to get by him and I go his back the entire offensive line and an entire defensive line yells hit I take off pasta like radio a lineman aren't even allowed to talk it's a penalty B how the hell does the defensive line know we going to hit to It's a setup. They're like, all right.

Again, I don't notice it then in the moment. I'm like, man. They set up. So they're like, all right, you're going to line up at receiver this next play. And at the time, we got this cornerback. His name is Johnny Adams. Buck 80, buck 85, soaking wet. 5'11", animal, All-American.

So, number one, why are y'all putting y'all best corners? That's a great wide receiver lined up on the other side. Why is he over here on me? That's a setup. Nonetheless, if this is the line of scrimmage brought right here. So, I'm thinking to myself like why is he so close to this i don't know i'm about to go catch this pass i'm excited remember they taught me all the things i don't know hit i take off so now what they don't tell

you what see when they cut the video off at is he held me for 10 yards so i picked up a first down in a college football game but they don't tell you that they don't know yeah there's a setup so i never really i never tried to play football in college i just wanted i knew that was my last opportunity in life to do it. And so I went out there for two plays. But they got people thinking like, oh, man, he was trying to play and he sucked. Like, no. To Austin Rivers' point, which I understood what he was saying.

I did too. Like, he's right. I don't think – I am not of the assumption that you can just take 30 players right now from the NBA and say, all right, tomorrow you're in the NFL game. I don't think that. What I do think is there are 30 players that you can find in the NBA that if you taught them a football skill set, that they can. There are not 30 players in the NFL that you can find and teach them a basketball skill set and they can come into the NBA. And you know how I know that?

Because all of the skill positions are basketball players that fell and wasn't good enough and then they went over there and played football. Because they could go do that. You could go run out because you're athletic and catch a pass and get open and do these things. And so I got the utmost respect for football players in their sport But I do get what Austin Rivers was saying I do too and you cannot take 30 players from the NFL and make them NBA players That's a lot cuz I don't think it's who like they could been to the pen before Everybody who just too strong I've never seen an NFL player just like Ray Allen

I'm in there with the Michigan State for a second though. He can hope though It's a lot of people that can see very dear this year receiver Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey cool for sure but I mean I say his league Yeah, oh boy. No, I take that back. What's my boy? He was raw in high school for the Bengals. The receiver. T. Higgins?

T. Higgins. No, I see him in person. No, but he could really hoop, though. NBA is crazy. Not NBA. Y'all way too good. It's a different skill. But for y'all to go out there and take a hit like how they had you.

No, I'm cool. You are a proficient Hall of fame nba player how they had you looking i said yeah crazy when they put you in the version in the sound box out with drake and the lambla i said all right this is where we gotta draw a lot i can't do drink like that bro yeah it's crazy so the gospel air ball and then warm-ups at least i picked up a first time yeah nah you have like drake drake crazy speaking about drake though you in a cali Drake crazy Speaking about Drake though You and Akali

You listen to music Drake You cool with Drake I'm sure Yeah What you think about Kendrick and Drake? Listen I'm a music fan For sure

I enjoy watching them brothers spar Yeah for sure Go back and forth I think What Kendrick did was diabolical I think what Kendrick did was diabolical. I think Kendrick was way more strategic. It was kind of like one person in Kendrick was like, oh, I'm about to destroy you. And one guy was like, oh, this is fun.

Yeah, like, you can't fuck with me. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is fun. And by the time he realized it wasn't just fun, it was too late. Yeah. And Kendrick, as a lyricist, it's crazy. Bar none. Like, I mean, out of this world.

Yeah. And so what I think is, A, on top of Kendrick being the lyricist that he is, he was way more strategic. Like, the way he was dropping the songs, like, oh, you just dropped one. He never, he was so strategic that Drake actually dropped great records. He never gave you a chance to even listen to it. Because Family Matters is far.

It's insane. But in 10 minutes, it was just like, never mind, meet the Grams. It was like, oh, I forgot this happened. And then after meet the Grams, the next day day he come with and so he was way more strategic on top of him being the great lyricist that he is and listen they not like us is is is actually probably going to be bigger but it's the new california love yeah it's crazy in 20 years

you turn that song on and people will still be bopping i was at a wedding last week and dj played it once just to see where the crowd was right and he's like oh so then his next song was like oh i'm gonna turn them up then he went back to they not like us maybe an hour later and played it four times in a row and on the fourth time people was dancing like it was the second time they ever heard the song meaning the first time you heard it you like oh man this is fire the second time you like I'm turned people was turned on the fourth time in a row that they played it which was the fifth time all night like it was the second time they heard the song. And I was just like, man, by the way, white people dancing to this,

black people dancing to this, purple, green, yellow. It don't matter who you are. It's cultures that don't even have a clue what he's talking about. And, like, they're bopping to the song. And so I just think, me personally, I think what the world needs to see and what the world is waiting to see is like to see Drake accept the song. Yeah. And I think personally, he needs to accept the song because the reality is you got to get past the things that he's saying. Right?

Like he's saying some darn things about you. However, where you got to accept is you also said some darn things About you However Where you gotta Where you gotta accept is You also said some darn things About him Right So It's all fair

Fair game Because both of y'all Was shooting at family Shooting at kids Shooting at wives Niggas was out of pocket Everybody was shooting everywhere So

So You kinda gotta get past What he's saying. I think he needs to admit that it's a great record. Because what I think right now, as someone who's been through their fair share of blunders, what I think right now is, I think the record got a hold of drake and the only way you can get away from the record is to say no that's a great record and like man i'll dance to it too because like even you hear the beat that beat that's what we just tried to tell him he said that ain't about to get

played nowhere i didn't say it wasn't gonna to. At his parties. At his function. Hold on. Yeah. So, hold on. I know you want to speak. I know you itching like a motherfucker with chicken pox. This is what I said. The lyrics in the song, 100%, he murdered him.

I just don't, I don't like the beat. I think I'm okay to say that. It just doesn't grab me like that. That beat is crazy. Over your head. Oh, my God. No, I'm not over your that it just doesn't grab me like that beat is crazy over your hand oh my god i'm not over your hand i'm not i don't i don't even really like light-skinned people i barely like you you family but i just really think like the beat just don't the kendrick on future with metro on them is a better beat to me oh that'd be crazy i like that here's the thing though

but they not like us is a bigger record because of how it's been marketed, bro. How it's been marketed, but also, again, why I said Kendrick is diabolical, that is a West Coast beat. I get it. And so, with it being a West Coast beat, he made it to where it's like, yo, you got to fuck with the West Coast versus you. Yeah. Not L.A., not Compton. But he made it West Coast. And that's why he definitely won to me.

Hundred percent. I'm just saying me. I live in Indianapolis Midwest like you. You were from my fucking second. Absolutely. You feel me? That shit just doesn't. When I hear the

other record with Metro and M, it's more of that don't scare the hoes. If I see a girl seawalking at my party, I got niggas built like you with security. I'm asking her to leave.

That's not really my type of vibe, but I get it. It's a bigger record, bro Go crazy Kendrick. You wanted to go to me for sure, but you should actually let who else come to his party stuff How they come? We're not this is not appropriate for that Mike is snapper like T-Pain over there But we can move forward I'll tell you after the show I'll shoot you a t-shirt

I'm looking forward to it What you got next for me, bro? Shot me a portion Hey, you family, bro You family, bro You know how we pie Before we get out of here, man A lot of crazy moves happened

Obviously, we mentioned Klay You know what I'm saying? Going to the Mavs Sixers Fucking got a BBL With this whole fucking roster what's some teams you feel like really weren't crazy this offseason so far i think the sixers has done a good job um i think you know with the players they added pg um caleb martin um drumming yeah i think they had a really good offseason they had a bunch of they had a bunch of cap space

and they capitalized on it I still don't think they're going to beat the Celtics win a championship I still don't think that and then also locking in your superstar point guard for the long haul

like the Sixers had a really big summer. I think Dallas adding Klay is going to be huge because I also think Klay is going to have a great year. Yeah, and I hope he does too. It's one of my favorites. I hope he does too. So I think that's big. I think the Knicks getting Mike Hill Bridges is a great pickup. I don't think it puts them over the hump because I still think in order to get over the hump,

you got to have one of them guy guys like Steph Curry, LeBron James, Joker, Jason Tatum like that's a different level of guy and I think in order to get over the hump you have to have those types of guys I think the Knicks what they've done is like they're gonna have they're gonna be so hard to beat in the regular season but then it's going to get to a point to where you need one of them guy guys who's gonna score and where i will say i respect jaylen brunson for taking the 154 is you're going to allow that team to be in the running to go get one of them guys and if they can then you got action but right now I don't think they're a championship team. Do you think the real J.R. can be one of them guys? Julius Randall

I think Julius Randall is a good player. I think Julius Randall is an all-star But Julius Randall ain't Joker Steph LeBron. Nah, nah, I'm just saying do you think like LeBron. Nah, nah. I ain't saying that. I'm just saying, do you think like them two combined can be a Joker

or a Steph? With the supporting cast. I think them two combined is going to make them a very good team, but I still think as you know, Giannis.

You see the competitive edge of him. That's his position. He like, yeah. Straight up. I think it makes them a very good team.

I love that. You know, like you won a championship. Who was the guy on that team? Gian that. You know, like, you won a championship. Who was the guy on that team? Giannis. And so, like,

Julius is damn good NBA player. For sure. Like, Jalen Brunson is a damn good NBA player. But I still don't think they want to

one of those guys. They didn't. And, and, unfortunately, in this league, two doesn't equal one you're right damn like that's real i just don't think it does i think both of them are going to have great years in their own right i think both of them will probably be all-stars but when it comes down to it in the playoffs and they take everything away from you yeah you just got to know how to go get a

bucket no matter who's guarding you and there's only really like four to five guys in this league that can do that thing that's real how you feel about the additions y'all have with buddy hill i think there are good additions for us i think um you know buddy bringing shooting for sure the anthony melvin bringing some shooting, some defense. I remember. Defender, I think that's good. And my love for slow-mo as a player has been well documented. I think when a team, when you got him on a team, you just plug and play.

It's like, now you got two of you. Like, it's crazy. I was like, damn, they know it. And he was playing a five in the postseason. Yeah. It's like, now you got two of you. It's crazy. I was like, damn, they know it. And he was playing a five in the postseason. Yeah.

Crazy. Very well. Very efficient. And it just makes perfect sense for y'all team. He's literally plug and play. By the way, if you need him

to play some backup point, guess what he can do? He can do that. He can play backup point. But by the way, if you need, bro, go play the floor.

Go ahead. All right, bro. We need you. That's a five. He's losing five yeah, bro. All right, bro, we need you. That's a five. He's losing five. Go ahead. He a plug and play type of guy. So I think I like the additions we made.

I'm not going to get ahead of myself and be like, oh, we're a championship team. Like in 2022, it all came together for us and I thought we were losing the first round and it all came together for us, and I thought we were losing the first round. And it all came together for us. So I would never count us out. But I also don't think many of these teams outside of the Boston Celtics are championship teams either. I think y'all going to have a really, really good season. I look at y'all as an underrated team.

I know everybody counts y'all. Clay, it's all the dynasties. But for some reason, the way y'all built it, I'm like, man, they got a lot of guys that's like jail guys. Yes. Like, Buddy Hill can make shots. Like you said, Kyle's a great player. He can play, plug and play. And then I think y'all young guys like Trace, I think he's developing.

And I think his role playing with CP last year put him on a faster track. And same thing, I never can say his name right. Brett Presente? I never can. I was going to Brad Presente? I never can. I was going to call him BP. No Bob reporters. I think he's going to be, I think he got like

a Dante DiVincenzo type of way he can beat you. Damn, that's a good comparison. Yeah, like, even though they both got red hair, it wasn't even that. But it's just like, they remind me of that

because he can guard, he can make a shot. And it's like, I think y'all got the buildings of a real good like gelling team i think so too um i think a lot of people forget we still got wigs on this team we just had a tough year last year yeah a lot which we all have but you're going through the stuff that he was going through yeah it's tough i'm not sure i'd be playing um yeah you know but

no no one and it ain't nobody business what he's going through but you know tough dude for continuing to go through that season 100 and so i think we'll get wigs from 2022 back this year and then also who i'm more of the more excited about than even my game john is jonathan i think he's about to take that next step, put himself on the cusp of being an all-star. Whether you get the nod is if you're winning or not. So if we win it, maybe he does get the nod. But I think he's on the cusp.

And so with that being said, like I said, I think we got a good mix of vets and experienced and young guys. And that could come together. And by the way, we got Steph Curry. We got a good mix of vets and experienced and young guys. And that could come together. And by the way, we got Steph Curry. We could win a championship at any time because he's that good. But it's not a championship team on paper, and it's not a championship team starting the season.

But it is a team that can grow into being a championship contender. And that's all you can ask for is to be a contender if you're a contender you need one rolled ankle you need you know

anything happen my fucking sprained a finger and can't dribble is good no more like that's the luck that you need and so

shout out to the Pacers Mike Dunley he's done a good job my fuckers they were dying for them yeah the Pacers they were down

they made it to the finals I thought you my dog man but when I seen that we a good job. I'm focused on them and they're dying for them. Yeah, the Pacers, they were down there and made it to the finals. You my dog, man. But when I seen that we're a good regular season team, broke my heart, man. Broke my heart. But I'm happy we got to

the Eastern Conference Finals, man. But you believe me? No. I'm a delusional fan. Oh. I'm one of those. At least you're honest. Oh, yeah, for sure.

I'm 100 about it. You're like the delusional girlfriend. Whoa, whoa. Don't go that far. Check this. Check this. If y'all losing the first round, you owe me black forces. You owe you the mini, right?

Hold on, nigga. You can never call it. I ain't no bet. Well, rewind. And wait a minute. And you can't wear no-shows with my shoes either. You got to get you some middies. Them no-shoes, you definitely steal with the no-shows.

That screaming Saginaw shoplifter. You definitely steal with the no-shoulders. That's screaming Saginaw shoplifter. You're going to get you some of these. Saginaw shoplifter. That's how you know he really part of the pod. That's how we start roasting each other. This is what you owe me. Y'all can make y'all a little bit. This is what you owe me.

If y'all just say, I This is what you owe me. If y'all just say I don't know halfway through the season you see it's like damn we ain't making the playoffs. I need you to

really warm up and play in a pair of black forces and white laces. Whatever bet you want to make whatever

if y'all make the playoffs because I know y'all talked about y'all going to be a good team. T, got y'all, y'all little giants run potentially. I'm nothing. So,

did y'all make the playoffs this year? Little giants? So, y'all going to run it back. Whatever y'all did last year, y'all going to do this year. So, if y'all,

if y'all, if y'all make the playoffs, I owe you whatever. Make the playoffs playoffs by the way just so you know cause the west is the west is deep bro

thicker than Big Booty Judy out there if y'all don't make the playoffs Black Forces last game of the season Steve Kerr

put the stick in the game I'm gonna tell you right now Adam Silver gonna see Dre and then Black Forces say get them

out of the arena now. Get this man out of the fucking building. I'm going to share a little tidbit with you, though. After winning four championships and making the playoffs and losing in the first round,

I'd rather not. Or second round. You'd rather not what? I'd rather go home and enjoy my summer. Okay. Respect. Than going to the first, second round and not having a real chance. You solidified, though.

Maybe the guys want to go to the playoffs. You're young guys. No, I mean, we're going to do all we can to win a championship. But by the way, at no point are they going to hear like, yo, fellas, we got to make the playoffs. Like, don't waste my time. Don't waste my time. We're trying to win the championship. But by the way, at no point are they going to hear like, yo, fellas, we got to make the playoffs. Like, don't waste my time. Don't waste my time. We trying to win the championship. That's the talk. But making the playoffs,

that's some Indiana Pacers talk. Drew, that's tough. No, it is. That's tough. It is. Am I lying? No, you got that. You ain't got to argue with me here, brother. That's me, man. Talk to the D.J. the Sixers, the Dr. J. Shorts. We haven't won a playoff series since my son You ain't got to argue with him, brother. That's a man. Talk to the D in the sixes. The Dr. J shorts. Hey, I ain't going to hold you.

We haven't won a playoff series since my son was born. My son was nine. I was very excited this year. You should. We've been going through some shit. Did y'all go to a game? I did. I did.

That's lit. For sure. Had to support. He worked for them. That's crazy. Allegedly. It was a good time, huh? Of course.

You know what I'm saying? Good energy? Of course. Good energy. It's crazy. Great point guard. Guess what? He about to lead Team USA.

Guess what? What's up lead Team USA. Guess what? What's up, man? You know what's crazy? What's happening? I had a month of extra summer to do the same thing they did. Also, real shit, Dre. I don't mean to cut you off. Are y'all better than the Pacers?

Are we better than the Pacers? Yeah. We got Steph Curry. 100%. That's a fact. 100%. Okay. Because he think they better than the Knicks.

Who else he say, Jeff? They, Milwaukee. He said they better than the Knicks Who else he say Jeff They Milwaukee He said they better than Milwaukee I was like I said last year We beat all they asses That's all

I didn't say we was better But we beat We beat Milwaukee five times last year I don't want to hear nothing from Milwaukee Dre and them would have beat y'all ass We beat y'all five times What we talking about We actually did beat y'all pretty bad

Yes bro We had off night It's okay Yeah Had off night No I'm going to tell you what happened I'm going to. Had an off night. No, I'm going to tell you what happened. Want me to tell you

what happened? Storytime with Draymond. Storytime with Draymond. My favorite part of the show. What happened was if you go back to 2000 and this was the 23-24 season, so the 2022-23 season,

which would be Nembhard's rookie year, right? Yes, sir. All right. Nembhard, if you go back and watch the game when we played the Pacers in the Bay. I remember. He was a game winner.

Halliburton was out. And I'm almost positive he was out. He could have not been out. That's irrelevant. Nimhar gave us hell. You hear me? Complete hell. And he was talking so crazy.

And Steph was guarding him. And the shots he was hitting, Steph would just turn and look like, yo, what? And so he was talking so crazy. So in turn, what you then did was every time that guy see you now, he could be sleepy on a back-to to back to back. When he see you he turned. He at you now. And so what happened was Steph came out at like

24 in the first quarter. And so I said all of that to say blame them hard. But y'all gonna have a hard time with us. Because Steph got an issue. Warriors and four versus the patient steph got an issue he got a big issue and i don't really know if there's any way to fix the issue except for him to stop playing basketball because every time he see new hearts by the way i love them hards game man i think i i think I told you I like guys who get it out the mud.

And he like, he got some shit to him. He feisty as a motherfucker. But every time he sees Steph Curry, he better buckle up. And I'm going to one-up you on that conversation. I don't know if you watched the game, but did you see the scrimmage? The USA? Yeah, Canada. Did you see when Steph started cooking?

Yeah. Yeah, look who was gardening. Yeah, I'm telling you. Every time he see him, every time, it's just like a light bulb going to go off. And so that's going to make it tough for y'all because when Steph go off, we don't like... Difference between these dudes who be scoring like 60 and 70, they be losing.

When Steph and Klay got 60 and 70, we only played three quarters. Damn, that's a fact. So when Steph go off, it's over. It's a wrap. Yeah. And so y'all going to have a tough time with us. Okay, y'all going to get this in the bag.

Y'all going to pull up to the bridge, though. We don't lose on the bridge. Y'all did this year. Yeah, they beat y'all ass this year. It's on camera. We're going to back the back forces up. We're going to bet it up. Listen, we got to get up out of here, Dre.

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