Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on LeBron James legacy, Chet Holmgren vs. Wemby, Cam Newton-Mike Vick

Episode Date: January 22, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 33 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys discuss the stat that LeBron James has gone up against 35% of all players who have ever played in the NBA, and how LeBron’s unprecedented greatness has led him to hooping on multiple generations across the league. The guys then debate whether Chet Holmgren or Victor Wembanyama should win Rookie of the Year, and who the better NFL quarterback was between Cam Newton and Michael Vick. #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but if you do see it, it might be our last episode. But I'm still here with the host. Holy sass nigga. Hey, Charleston White here. What the nigga? Hey, the 520 Power Rankers is crazy. That's him.

He's number one. That's crazy. Damn. Still, you know what I'm saying? New Year, same game. My dog be here. Out the Prellies, my nigga. How you what today, bitch?

How you doing, Bishop, man? Cool, man. I just want to start off. My fault, YouTube. I had Rod Strickland fucked up. Yeah. My nigga went to DePaul. I was tapped in because my nigga coached at UK.

So that's my bad. I take that one on the chin. We all had like a little bit of doubt, but you said it so confidently that we were just like, I know, bro, but that's his job. Like his road or something. Like, damn, I'm taking Rod. But I'm out of pocket. My fault. It's I know, bro, but that's his job. Like, his road or something. I'm like, damn, I'm taking a ride. But I'm out of pocket. My fault.

It's all good. See, real nigga made their mistakes. Last but not least, my dog, young Nacho, young T, what's happening with it? Man, I'm good, man.

What day is this for the phones? I got them. I ain't wearing them. Them shits, my feet hurt, man. The half cents? Them the real how you was. Yeah, these half cents,

if you wasn't really tapped in, you wouldn't. It was a time. It was a moment. It was cold. Yeah. It was a moment. It was cold. Yeah. It was a moment. But they hear it, man.

For all people, be like, hey, where are the phones? I did. These more comfortable. I ain't going to lie. They hear it all.

You ain't going to have a half again? Nah, I don't look like a pocket money. I don't look like I was a drunk uncle for real. I ain't even know you did that. You didn't get too much money to move here. Yeah, both of them said,

damn, y'all just don't care no more. Yeah, I care a little bit, but they hear it, man. They both hear it. I mean, both of, but they here, man. They both here. I mean, both of them here. Fly shit.

Hey, almost all-star weekend, you know what I'm saying? We're going to talk about some all-star shit before we get to that. I got to ask y'all. All y'all niggas have always been in the shoes. How y'all feel about the hardest all-star shoe? Like, what's one of your favorite all-star moments or favorite all-star shoes? We can talk about the jerseys, too. Because I feel like they need to go back to everybody wearing the same jerseys.

Like the original jerseys they play in. Oh, you think they need to wear their home, like their team or away home? Yeah, or the fly-ass jersey your team got.

Nah, I loved when they used to do the East and West when Jordan wore the Columbia Jordans. When he had that green jersey and they had the white.

That bitch is nasty. That's when I wanted to be an all star I was like they might have been at Phoenix maybe yeah with the cactus and shit

on there that shit was fire I don't know if it's I don't know if it's Phoenix but one of the places I don't know where it was maybe in San Antonio I fuck with the blue jersey

with the aquas fire yeah that was fire but them Colombias was like y'all know that's my favorite

Jordan that was my pick with the Columbia yeah yeah that was fire is that Colombias was like y'all know that's my favorite Jordan that was my pick what the Columbia yeah that was five is that the best 11 to you facts I know that's one of your favorites but

facts best I like the Brits cause you can wear them more though you can yeah and you know that white

but them shits are so clean I ain't gonna lie but they're golly but the mesh on 11s when they get dirty you can't do shit to fix it the new 11s ain't like that though that's cause that shit leather yeah I ain't even care I ain't going to let them. Oh, they're golly. But the mesh on the 11s, when they get dirty, you can't do shit to fix it. The new 11s ain't like that, though. That's because that shit leather.

Yeah. I ain't even care. I ain't even care. I ain't get them. I ain't even get them. Warming the snow back to back, bro. For a shoe head, I ain't get them because I had so many 11s, Concords. I thought they was the same.

I ain't realize they was leather. I might have to double back. I might have to. Bottom. I let it sit. I'm like, damn, this snow ain't even fucking with it. I might have to double back. I might have to... Bottom. I let it sit. I'm like, damn, this snow ain't even fucking with it.

I might have to go back and cop them. They elite. Because I did see you with them in the snow. Yeah. I might have to go back. You was stuck in the snow now?

Twice, bro. No shit. Just to test them. Fucking around. Oh, man. I was going to say, typically, I don't like boots too much,

so the foam pods become my winter boots because them motherfuckers are indestructible. Hey, facts. You can wear them motherfuckers anywhere. And just wipe them off.

Them black, the black bark is white purple. Yeah. Motherfuckers are snow boots for sure. I definitely got the all black ones

on my car right now. That's just, you know. But that should let y'all know that this is Cap. That nigga don't wear them motherfuckers, man. He just heard that nigga

be in a goddamn 11. He got kicks. He just fucking with y'all. He trolling. That's what we call that. He trolling. That nigga trolling. He just heard that nigga saying he be in a goddamn 11. He got kicks. He just fucking with y'all. He trolling. That's what we call that. He trolling. That nigga trolling. He don't wear this shit out.

You an industry player? Nah. If you see the motherfucker, he got sitting next to him when he leave this motherfucker. He don't even wear this outfit. He trolling. Yo, I'm telling.

Troll some white, motherfucker. That's what this episode is going to be. Shout out to the V. That nigga got some cherry 12ills over there, man. Shannon, you ain't met us, man. You about to today.

Let's go on pod, DJ. Go on shoot off a top. Speaking of draft picks, let's take an over-under on that meeting. Because this boy, that boy went on a rant. That shit cap, man. Don't worry about that cap. That boy went on a rant That shit cap man Don't worry about that

That boy went on a rant Didn't he Nah I went on a rant I'm just saying They be mad Because people really Be wearing this shit I ain't mad if they wear them

Because that's you You mean you did Your thing with that But I'm saying like Unintentionally But niggas try to say Niggas can't dress and shit Oh bro I'll take that

On the chin bro Pause But like When he live here My nigga get fresh I ain't gonna hold y'all Niggas try to say Niggas can't dress and shit Oh bro I take that on the chin bro Pause But like I don't even fuck about When he live here My nigga get fresh I ain't gonna hold y'all Niggas know like

I can put on clothes When I want to Yeah when he put on clothes He get fresh Don't disrespect his shoes I see the energy experience real I don't And I was just

I was in a great Nike suit You know The buddies You feel me I be chillin I don't wanna really Style on niggas like that Nah but niggas be trying to try like

niggas don't. Niggas is the worst dress pocket. Man, please keep thinking that because we ain't got no money. Zero. Zach Tom, I don't got nothing. Please plug me with the plug. Need some kids to claim your tax time? Man, plug me. Matter of fact, hit me with El Chapo, homie.

Nah, my fault. Never mind. I'm trying to get it right. Alright, I got a question.o, homie. No, my fault. Never mind. Bitch. I'm trying to get right. All right, I got a, hold on, dog. I got a question, dog. Sports question. What's that, yo? I put on my shit today, you feel me? Carmelo Anthony is the greatest one and done player in the beginning.

That being hate? Hate about it. Not really hate, but my fault was just throwing a bunch of other names out there. I was just trying to see not to get yada names. Can I ask you a question first? Are you relating it to college stats to the NBA or NBA

all the way through career? No. One and done in college. Who was the best player out of college when they went one and done? Yes. Mike Beasley was the best player

out of college one and done. Him or Kevin Durant? Never. What? Never. Mike Beasley went crazy at Kansas State. Statistically?

Mike Beasley was cold, bro. He was probably 26 and 12. Yeah. Melo was 20 and 10. He got all the way through. Yeah. I was going to say. That was all the way through.

But Melo getting that chip, knowing he was the best player on that team, made me sway that way. Come on, bro. Nothing. Come on, bro. You will. He ain't winning no awards. Who?

Fuck them awards. I got a chip. Melo ain't winning no awards. He won a chip. He was the most valuable player, bro. Man, I'm talking win no awards. Who? Fuck them awards. I got a chip. Melo ain't win no awards. He won a chip. He was the most valuable player, bro. Man, I'm talking about individual awards. He ain't win all them awards. KD won all them awards.

Man, and the Big 12 was weak as hell, bro. Big 12 won, fuck it. Melo won in the Big East, nigga, when the Big East was powerful. First of all, they was ass. They team. The Syracuse wasn't good. All right, nigga. They was mediocre. But when they went to the Syracuse wasn't good. Oh, they were mediocre, but when they went to the

tournament, everybody catch a run in the tournament. This is the best team in the Big 12. Everybody

catch a run in the tournament. I mean, VCU had Jerry McNamara. Shout out to our team

Florida Golf Coast. Florida City. Win a chip, bro, with that type of caliber. Nigga on the

team leading that type of pack. Like, my team Leaguing that type of pack Like my phone Was telling me Anthony Davis He had And he was that nigga Mook

Fucking Deron Five of my players What's the T. Jones T. Jones What's the nigga With the crazy jump shot

Gilchrist Gilchrist Come on bro Like niggas had a wit I'm not saying he didn't Mike Beasley Had Jacob Pullen

They blew Bill Walker Niggas still That ain't no whip though That nigga had Jerry McNamara Was one of the college Greatest college point guards

KD had What's the old boy name DJ Augustine I don't think he got to play with him Nah he played with DJ Augustine He played with He didn't play with The Marcus Aldridge though right

Nah He played with He played with DJ Augustine. He played with... He didn't play with the Marcus Aldridge, though, right? No, he didn't. He played with DJ Augustine. Yeah, DJ Augustine, but they had another one. That was it. They big was a white dude. Big white dude. Nah, bro.

They had a... I swear they played with a big white dude. That was my year. Do your homework, bro. He told you to do your homework? Do your homework, bro. Statistically,

they all are super close. I can't think of his name. But Michael Beasley has the best name. No, Mike Beasley his name but Michael Beasley has the best name no Mike Beasley went crazy Mike Beasley went dumb bro but for Melo

to do all of that bro with that type of team and win his shit bro Kansas was a fucking powerhouse Kirk Heinrich and Nick Hollison nigga were destroying

shit back then bro I'm not saying they wasn't but Jerry McNamara was good Melo was good he had Hakeem Ward which was a first round pick cause of Melo that ain't cause of Mel had Hakeem Ward, which was a first-round pick.

Because of Mello. Not because of Mello. Hakeem Ward was a deal, bro. Stupid athlete. Yeah, come on, bro. He was an athlete. He couldn't hoop like that. I wanted people to advocate for Mello.

He played like eight years in the league, bro. Shout out to Hakeem, bro. I'm just telling you. Headband killer. For what Mello had, and he won at 20 and 10. And on average,

I ain't saying Mo wasn't a deal. I'm a Melo fan. Melo probably my third favorite player of all time. He was like that. Y'all got some more though? Let's name some more of them. Mike Beasley was harder. Mike Beasley.

Kevin Durant was harder. Kyrie was ridiculous. Kyrie went to the league off what? 14 games? 14 games? Jason Tatum right up there with Melo these niggas just didn't win hell nah

Brandon Ingram Zion was fucking ridiculous his one year at fucking Duke y'all niggas are disrespectful bro are you crazy shout out to Taco Fall

niggas was hooping bro Zion wasn't crazy nah hooping but y'all y'all violating Melo bro Anthony Davis was crazy I feel like Melo winning that shit

make it different D Rose was crazy it does bro D Rose shit make it different. D. Rose was crazy. It does, bro. D. Rose went crazy in Memphis, for sure. D. Rose was crazy. Who was this big? Was it Joey Porter? Am I saying his name wrong?

Yeah. Joey Dorsey, my fault. Joey Dorsey. That's a tough list. John Wall got me missing. John Wall. That was crazy. John Wall played with the Marcus Cousins.

Eric Bledsoe. I think you want to Melo. Nah, I'm saying Melo. Damn. Melo did his thing. He hard. Because if it wasn't for Mellow...

KD team and Mellow team is very similar. Fuck no, bro. DJ Augustine is a thousand times better than fucking Jerry McNamara. Not in college. What?

Jerry McNamara was a good-ass college player. DJ Augustine killed in college. DJ Augustine has the best ways of a long time. He killed when KD left. Did he not kill when KD left?

Jerry McNamara. That's a mellow man right there. Jerry McNamara didn't do what DJ Augustine did at Texas when they both were their best players left, bro. That's true. Jerry McNamara was pretty fucking good. All right, bro. Look it up.

Jerry McNamara and DJ Augustine. He was, what's the nigga named? Greg Paulus. Oh, you call him Greg Paulus? Greg Paulus is Jerry McNamara. What's the nigga name? Greg Paulus. Oh, you call him Greg Paulus? Greg Paulus is Jerry McNamara. Nah, hell nah. He was great, man. That nigga went to go play football.

He was good at basketball. He could do that. On his Iverson sweat. He was good at football or whatever, but that nigga. You not going to mention that. The real White Iverson. White Iverson. And he follows the Instagram.

He going to see that. Does he do? Yeah. No, not Jerry McNamara. He probably work at HR somewhere. No, Greg,, who? No, not Jerry McNamara. He probably work at HR somewhere. No, Greg, pull up if you do. Jerry McNamara coach at Syracuse right now.

That's fire. But you say who? Greg Paul. The rope. Y Iverson. The dude who be on Instagram hooping. I say he follow us.

Oh, Y Iverson. That's the nigga's name? Y Iverson? Yeah, bro. Man, what? Who you move on to? I forgot Post Malone made that song.

Yeah, he solid. I won't play you one-on-one hey what's the other dude he said you duck and smoke i forgot the nigga you called out i saw yeah that's just that's just j that's jt man from st louis okay i would play you but nah he can't beat you oh yeah i ain't gonna play you nah all-star weekend he said he pulling up what's up with it he said he playing all-star weekend i would say nigga if you pull up meet me at the factory we to play you. Nah. All-Star weekend, he said he pulling up. What's up with it? He said he playing All-Star weekend? I would say, nigga, if you pull up. Meet me at the factory. We can play.

You got a YouTuber, though. I got to see your YouTube followers first. Oh, okay. Wow. I've been playing the celebrity game. We got to play one-on-one after. Nigga, act like Mr. Beast. Yeah.

You got to have a thousand videos before you can talk to me. I really can't wait to see the day that we really get, like, the Epstein shit is cool. I want to see the contract that we really get like the Epstein shit is cool I want to see the contract between YouTube I don't know

yeah that was a bad transition yeah fuck that fuck the Epstein list I want to see how much money YouTube owes Mr. Beast bro bro I said the Epstein shit is cool

yeah we don't care about that shit the thing's all nasty like that was wild bro I'm like hold on Jimmy Kimmel we talking about I show hoes

to God damn. I said, what the fuck? Yeah, bring it back, bro. Bring it back. I already said that. I want to see how much money YouTube pays Mr. Beast, bro. I need to see the money, bro.

Yeah. He probably, they have some type of crazy partnership. Because there's no way that they pay him every month. No way. He's having 25 million views

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Damn, best one to done though. Say mellow. I'm going mellow. It's too many people. Too many people. KD, Mike Beasley, one of them. Hey, shout out to Jason Sato for acknowledging Jabari Parker.

I think a lot of people forgot how cool Jabari Parker was, bro. He was nasty too. I know this man, I be politically correct now, but there was once upon a time that people thought that Giannis was going to help Jabari Parker and not the other way around. Like injuries hurt, but there was once upon a time

when he was a franchise. He was averaging 20 before he toured ACL. Yeah, he was on his way, bro. Yeah, he was hooping. Yeah, bro. Chicago legend. I played with him in Atlanta, man. He a cool dude, bro.

Yeah, and he was just like super humble and just like. Yeah, you could tell. He was very woke, I should say. Yeah. Them Duke niggas be woke. Shout out to Kyrie. Yeah. Hey, man. Yo, pitcher. If y'all in the locker room, All-Star weekend. You know what I'm just saying. Them Duke niggas be woke. Shout out to Kyrie. Hey, man, yo, pitcher,

if y'all in the locker room, All-Star weekend, you know what I'm saying, all four of the Hawks that made it has been servicing around. While they was on your ass, they was like,

Jeff got all them money and had Lubriderm lotion. Nigga, that's what they had. It was ridiculous. I didn't bring that lotion, nigga. That's what they had In the locker room Shout out to them

That was the Knicks nigga Damn the Knicks is that cheap The Knicks had Lubriderm lotion in there I just gotta put some Lotion on my skin I ain't Nigga skin bad as fuck

With that Lubriderm I'm an X-Men baby So I know about it That's why it's funny to me But first of all That's what they had So I just came in the locker room Nigga I took a shower Nigga put my shit on About to put some lotion on Nigga That's what they had So I just came In the locker room Nigga I took a shower

Nigga put my shit on About to put some lotion on Nigga That's why I don't know Why dude was stealing From the Washington Wizards Cause there's shit In there already

It's fucking deodorant It's lotion It's toothbrushes It's toothpaste It's everything And nigga said That lube and herb Said nah I'm gonna go to Target

Yeah nigga said I need What kind of lotion You supposed to get What kind of lotion Y you supposed to get? Oh, I don't know. What kind of lotion do y'all use? My skin got a lot better.

Excuse me? Yeah, my skin, it's a lot smoother now. My shit don't feel like alligator no more. T-Bone? I don't know, bro. Probably,

I'm a Jurgens nigga. See, you from the ghetto. So, I like Jurgens. It's hot through the motherfucker. You going to be sweating? Shout out to my people who still use the cocoa butter with the brown top. So, I like Jurgens. It's hot to the motherfucker. You gonna be sweating. Shout out to my people who still use the cocoa butter with the brown top. That shit don't never run out.

Been on the same bottle for 10 years. Yeah. That motherfucker hot. I don't like hot lotion, so I'll use Nivea sometimes. Y'all never heard of hot lotion, bro. Nah, you ain't never put hot lotion on. It be kind of thick. It make you sweat.

This nigga says you put hot lotion on and you kind of thick. I said when you put lotion on It be thick And it make you sweat You trying to be Nah I didn't That's that shit That's that late night shit

That late night shit That's that late night shit I don't know what you And y'all do at y'all home With the lotion We don't do that My ocean We don't do that

We don't do that in my ocean. We don't do that. We don't do that. Clean it up. No, ain't nothing clean. Clean it up. You clean it up. Yeah, Paul,

that's clean. There you go. Clean it up. Shout out to the Sean Watson lotion. Yeah, whatever. I don't need that lotion.

You can't buy that. Nah. I ain't never just heard nobody say hot lotion though. What are you, how lotion do you use? No, I said the lotion

make you hot. Y'all ain't never put a lotion on and you start sweating. He's like, God damn, this lotion be running and make me hot. All right, it's me. Fuck it. Niggas in the comments. So your mom ain't never put Vaseline on you when you was little. You'd be like, God damn.

When Mike said petroleum jelly. I don't know what he'd be using. Mike describes it. I don't know what he'd do. I don't know what he doing in his home. The hair is home. Got different type of lubrication. They lubrication is different. The STD A&D.

My nigga, he use A&D ointment for his lips. I've never heard that. You got a tattoo? I thought my nigga had a tattoo. He just got shattered. Wait a minute. Y'all ain't never used Aquaphor either?

Yeah, I had some for my skin, bro. It's the same shit. But I thought you had a tattoo while you were at A&D with me on the couch. You're not supposed to use A&D with me for your tattoo, bro. I'm saying that's what

all I ever used it for. Walking around with A&D with me is crazy. You don't live in Marquette Manor. That nigga was using it on his lips. I looked at him and said, what the fuck are you doing with my lips, Chad?

Shit, it ain't that cold. This nigga live at Marquette Harrison's car with that motherfucker. Homeless lips. Shout out to the Jamaican LRG fit. We just... There we go.

Shut up. Oh, shit. Let's move on, boy. Oh,, there we go. Oh, shit. Let's move on. Oh, man, we got to move on. That nigga did have a bottle of A&D on him. That's crazy.

Mike, hey, man, I love Mike's 2024. I thought it was preparation. So I was like, my nigga's struggling over there. You know,

when you see the two, I'm like, my nigga, nigga went to the bathroom too hard. God damn. Cause it only come covered one surface side. So you just can't walk around that motherfucker in your pocket.

I told my nigga, I told my nigga he had a problem at the bathroom. I said, well, that boy's stool going crazy. Oh. Because, nigga, that's the only time you see that shit. Hold on, bro. Say that nigga's Stewart's going crazy.

He out of pocket today, y'all. Oh, shit. What's next, bro? Hey, man. Shout out to the Fab Five Reunited, man. It was good to see them niggas together, man. I don't know where we're going for that subject. But speaking of old niggas.

How sad did Chris Webber look, though? He ate, though. Everybody was smiling. That nigga, like, he was depressed to be there. He still don't like them. I can't believe I showed up for this shit. Yeah, he took my nigga. Yeah.

You ruined their legacy, motherfucker. Shout out to the Tom Alex. Yeah. He's fucking pissed. You're still the best nigga to ever come out of Michigan, though. It's all good. Let's see this debate. Ain't no debate.

Best nigga out of Michigan. Ain't no debate. See, well, Jamal Crawford. He better than any nigga Let's get out of Michigan. Ain't no debate. Jamal Crawford. He better than any nigga that ever came out of Michigan and Michigan State. Michigan State? I don't know about Michigan State. He the greatest player in Michigan history.

Damn. All right, so he better than Jamal Howard? Yes. He better than J. Rose? Yes. Jamal Crawford? Who had a better NBA career, Chris Webber or Jalen Rose? Huh?

Chris Webber. I'm not being argument, I'm just asking. Chris Webber. Chris Webber, for sure. Jamal Crawford. Bro.

Glenn Rice. All you gotta say, Glenn Rice is about to be my next say. Name Michigan State players too and it's over with. Glenn Rice. Dead. I seen him in that big ass shirt

in Mansion in Atlanta in 2012. Atlanta Rice had the craziest polo I have ever seen in my life. He out of pocket. Shout out to GR. He had two buttons

and only one worked. Hold on, that ain't, oh, no, no, the other GR, that's Robertson. How about I say, I ain't roasting your daddy, bro. Nah, I never disrespected

the big dog. Nah, nah, nah. I mean, we ain't gotta stay on it, but just think about it for a couple minutes. Michigan State. See, we're better than all the niggas.

I ain't never really had. Jason Richardson, better. Steve Smith, Tim Cleaves. Yeah, he might be the best. Z-Bo. Niggas be trying to check shit. Yeah, Z-Bo. Z-Bo and Chris Webber close, bro.

Good argument. Very comparable. Z-Bo and Chris Webber out. C-Web probably get him. C-Web probably got him. C-Web got him. But Z-Bo right there. We, I see where it probably get him. See where it probably got him. Yeah. But Z-Bo right there. We used to walk under him, but Chris Webber is one of the most underrated power

forces in the history of the world. For sure. We're not hating on him. He just looked depressed when he was there. He look like he don't like them niggas. Look like, hey, this is forced. One of his niggas still had braids. So I was like, yeah, shit's crazy.

Yeah, when I seen Jimmy Jack and the Blazers, I was like, yeah, they had to go get him. They had to go pick my nigga up. But shout out to them, because I love J Rose, man. I be watching get him. They had to go pick him up. Well, shout out to them because I love J-Rose, man. I'll be watching his Instagram and shit. I fuck with J-Rose. I fuck with the Fab Five. I mean, I feel like they're one of them people that we always talk about before.

Like, NIL money was really for real, for real. They deserve way more than they just do for what they did for their program. Yeah, facts. For what they did for college basketball, period. Yeah. And just hoops, period, bro. They was out there flying and everything.

They was before Iverson yeah I just wish that they gave off that J-Roll still give off that same energy yeah but like C-Web

and I don't know the rest of them like that J-Howard he's still cool but they don't give off that same like you know culture energy like damn I wish they was still

cool cool yeah like I would love to see them like all the way cool. But you know how it goes when, you know what I'm saying, niggas get in courtrooms and shit. Shit.

Shit alters a lot. Facts. That paperwork is a little bit different. But it was cool to see new things back together. You know what I'm saying? I think a lot of kids, especially like you said,

we talked about Zion and them, like, a lot of them kids clicking up together to go to them schools, they was low-key like the OGs of that shit. Even though I may not know it. They definitely the OGs,

but were they better than Zion and Cam Reddish and RJ Barrett who Fat Five yeah I think that'd be them dusted them niggas I mean we see them niggas

they're gonna lose to Taco I'm saying player for player oh you're going to start Fives yeah what's Tyus wasn't on that team was he

nah who was the point guard on that team Tyus didn't win yeah he definitely did who was the point guard on that team, was he? Nah. Who was the point guard on that team? Yeah, he definitely did. Who was the point guard on that team? No.

Quinn Cook didn't play with Zion. We got to look that up. Hell nah. That'd be interesting though because Zion versus Chris Webber in college would have been crazy. Crazy. That's a battle. That would have been crazy.

Y'all niggas is crazy, bro. Zion and Chris Webber, that's a battle. Bro, see where it would have destroyed Zion Williamson. Are y'all niggas high? I'm not saying it would Webber, that's a battle. Bro, C-Web would have destroyed Zion Williamson. Are y'all niggas high? I'm not saying he would have destroyed him. I think it would have been a good matchup. Zion versus Chris Webber in college is a battle. Hell yeah, bro.

Bro, y'all niggas is crazy, bro. No, you crazy. Nigga Christian Leichner cooked that nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? You don't think Zion could cook? Zion going to get off, bro. But that nigga C-Well was different.

Jalen Rose, 6'5", left hand, running the one. Cam wrote it, 6'8". With Jimmy. Y'all know how I feel about Cam Pauls, but... Are they better at 6'7"?

Yeah. Now, that would've been an X-Factor. No. Because who... Jawan Howard gotta go with RJ? They role players

was decent, bro. I don't know. That's a good call, though. That's a good call. I'm sure one of y'all gonna take it. I mean? They role players was decent, bro. I don't know. That's a good call, though. That's a good call. I'm sure one of y'all going to take it. I mean, wasn't nobody beating that Kentucky team, though.

We just doing freshman five and... Freshman five what? Like, when it was fucking Anthony Davis, Mook, Gilchrist, and all them. They wasn't beating. They was different.

Yeah, they not beating. Mook and them my niggas, but fuck Mook. Nah. John Wall and them beating their ass. Nah, cap. John Wall, E-Bled, DeMarcus Cousins. They not, bro. my niggas but fuck mook john wall and them beating their ass nah cap john wall e bled the marcus cousins they not bro smacking mook now they had gil they had too much bro d lamb

gil chris they had to there's miles on both of them teams too which is curious there is miller i gotta start correcting these because i let that, him saying that Buddy was a Kentucky. I'm going to start correcting these niggas. I just let it fly because I was, you know, sometimes we sip a little bit when we drink. I don't,

but I take that one. But nah, mooking them getting dusted, bro. Nah. Dusted, bro. Nah. Only thing that'll be mooking them and it's debatable

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They said LeBron has played against 35% of people who've ever played in the NBA, and that shit is wild as fuck. I mean, he spent some time in the league. Man, that's a big-ass number, bro. He spent some time in the league. You never hooped on everybody, bro? That's crazy.

Bro, 35%? He spent some time in the league. He gave Generations buckets, bro. That clip of him hooping on Jaren Jackson's daddy and him is crazy. That's fire. Yeah, that's fire. I gave you a whole lineage of buckets. No, I'll fuck with that and him is crazy. That's fire. Yeah, that's fire. I gave you a whole lineage of buckets. No, I'll fuck with that.

That's fire. That's fire. That's hard. I mean, it's going to be crazy. It's a few of those, though. It's going to be crazy if he plays. I know he gave Dale Curry some buckets. He did.

Kenyon Martin and them, too. Damn. Shout out to Kenyon Martin. Who else got a kid that played in the league? Damn. That is crazy. I wonder if he gave Glenn Rice anything, buckets. Glenn Rice, Glenn Rice. Glenn Rice probably played for the Wizards for a second. Yeah, yeah, Damn. That is crazy. I wonder if he gave Glenn Rice something, but it's... Glenn Rice can write.

Glenn Rice can probably fool the Wizards for a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, shit. I know he probably gave Glenn Robinson. I don't know.

He probably gave him, but... No, no, no shot at Glenn, but I'm just saying. He got on your ass in that Fear the Deer comment. What'd he say? He was like,

Fear the Deer, you tapped in. Yeah, facts. Fear the... Why was they mad at me, though? Like, I did, fear the deer. You tapped in. Yeah, facts. Fear the deer. Why was they mad at me, though? Like, I did play for the Pacers. I forgot. They know you cap.

Cap as well. They think you Atlanta Hawker heart. I am. 100%. He definitely is. 100%. That fear the deer But they're not winning right now.

So, I'm around with the team that I want. On and off the court, he's Atlanta. ATL. On and off the court. Why Atlanta ATL on and off the court why you keep

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You had them peaks. You had them peaks. Don't do that. You had them. I never had them peaks. You had them. Y'all stupid. D-Wade sent you some to the A.

It was peak. It was. He didn't have to send them. They was already there. He get the statue too in Miami. That the center was already there. He get the statue too in Miami. That's fire. The way he get the statue

in Miami is fire. What do you think about the statue being? What's it gonna look like? I don't know. That's the last thing he had his toes rated. Everybody paid

his toes rent on that one. Did you see Mace? He said it was like seeing Michael Jordan in lingerie that shit is crazy bro nah man

that's all jokes man we love D-Wade man D-Wade one of my favorite players nah yeah it's all love he cold

nah people said I disrespect him with James Harden but James Harden one of my favorite players too but D-Wade is top

that was a fair take though yeah but he favorite players, too. But D-Wade is top. That was a fair take, though. Yeah, but he's top 12 of my all-time. D-Wade is the best shooting guard ever. Outside of Jordan. And Kobe. Third, okay. And James Harden. I'm rolling.

We're not doing that again. We are not. We're not saying D-Wade, and we're not saying Michael Jackson was podcasting in 2024. We cannot go back to that. I just want D-Wade really're not saying Michael Jackson was podcast in 2024 we cannot go back to that I just want like D-Wade

really like is underrated bro everybody know he's great anybody question that at all yeah D-Wade you know I think you great you gave me buckets

um you're you're him uh speaking of way old teammates Lil Will was just like uh Chet Holmgren

should probably be a frontrunner for rookie of the year he was just like shit wouldn't be cold but he's like Spurs gotta win more games yeah Chet Holmgren should probably be a frontrunner for Rookie of the Year. He was just like, shit, wouldn't be cold, but he's like, Spurs gotta win more games. Yeah.

Chet? Nah, I'm rolling with that. That's a great assessment by Lou because he really cold and he really killing and their team

is fucking nice. Like, and they nice because he's part of that. Like, he plays a huge role. He plays a huge role. But he got a way better team, though. Bro because he's part of that. Like, he plays a huge role. He plays a huge role. But he got a way better team, though.

Bro, he be killing and they be looking him off. Yeah, he be killing, though. But don't disrespect Chet like that, though. Chet Harbaugh, he got a lot of help, bro. He got a lot more. Definitely, he's playing with MVP right now. A lot more open. But I'm saying they got a whip, bro.

Absolutely. A lot of niggas that can hoop. But don't fucking take away from him having a great year because their team is good. I'm not,

but that goes back to my college take with y'all. These niggas having these superior teams, bro, be niggas with. Weak teams are still

holding it down, bro. Wimby's playing with bad news bears, bro. Yeah, he's playing with some for sure. But I feel like on the same situation with LeBron, bro, that rookie he's playing with some for sure. But I feel like on the same situation

with LeBron, bro, that rookie of the year should have went to Melo. I know LeBron went crazy that year. No, I agree. But Melo got to the playoffs. That has to be.

You know how I feel, but I would have been cool with Cole. I agree with you. For sure, Cole would have been definitely cool. I only say LeBron too,

though, why I ain't mad is because, bro, that pressure is different, bro. I agree. 25-5 pressure

yeah pressure different bro but at the same time shit you can't I can't help that I'm hooping I understand Chet got a way better team for by a long shot

but they are number 2 in the west right now because of how good he is too yeah I was trying to shape an MVP candidate it was a big difference

last year he wasn't there yeah oh I do got a question for y'all. They wanted to. They wanted to. Yeah, real close. Obviously, it's been on my mind for real. I want to ask y'all niggas who was better

in a little quick little stint in the NBA, Tyreek Evans or OJ Mayo? Ooh, that's tough. I'm biased, but I have to be unbiased with this conversation. That's tough. I'm in a weird position have to be unbiased with this conversation. That's tough. I'm in a weird position. Reek was my draft.

OJ, my high school year. OJ, they both been that guy for a long time. Reek won MVP. I mean, rookie of the year. He was killing 25 and 5. OJ came in the league averaging 18 and 20 with Rudy. Nigga, Reek averaged 25 and 5. OJ came in the league averaging 18 and 20 with Rudy. Nigga, Reek averaged 25 and 5.

Oh, right. No effects. The LeBron, when you said that, it made me remember what I had to ask y'all. And them shoes was crazy too.

Reek have it? Nah, the 25 and 5 LeBrons. It was like one of the first I got that. I'll wear them next time on an episode. Nah, yeah.

OJ or Reek? Ooh, that. You ain't gotta stay here long. I just wanted to ask before I forgot. I think Tariq's, what he did with a shitty organization

at that time period is a little bit more impressive, but also, like you said, OJ was playing with who again? Rudy Gay, bro. Rudy Gay's one of my

favorite players. 85-0 Rudy Gay, too. And I remember what he was doing in Toronto when he had DeMar DeRozan, bro, when he was shooting the fuck out the ball.

Yeah, bro. Getting 18-ish Rudy Gay is impressive. It's bro. Getting 18 next to Rudy Gay is impressive. It's very. Rudy's an underrated gun. I ain't gonna lie. He's underrated.

He's underrated, Chuck. He's the original Michael Porter Jr. Yeah, you... That's a great one. You are the original Michael Porter Jr. You are a low-key Chuck.

I love Rudy, though. That was my favorite player of all time, bro. I fuck with Rudy Gay game, but he was a Chuck. I ain't gonna lie. He put that motherfucker up. He wasn't time bro I fuck with Rudy But he was a chuck I ain't gonna lie He put that motherfucker He wasn't bashed for it all

But he got some Fire game winners Oh yeah That's a fire He was nice though But Averaging 18 Alongside Rudy

Is pretty impressive When he was the guy My pick Cause I'm like damn Both of my niggas Got kicked out of the league For the same shit At the same stint

I'm rolling with O Dog Let me tell you I'm rolling with O. Dog, let me tell you, I'm going to go with Reek for you personally. Because Freaky my dog. Shout out to Freaky. That's crazy.

That makes sense. That's his name. That's my dog. I'll never forget, bro. I was at the practice doing media shit and Nate was just like, Tariq was here,

but we sent him home. So, you know, we all got our like, what the fuck you mean? Like, we just watched a nigga walk out, but like, what's that mean he was like

he was here and we sent him home and was like you gonna explain on this he wasn't ready to play today you know how Nate is Nate lowkey an asshole when he get upset

and he lowkey almost said something we was just like what you mean he was like we'll let you know when he gets back I'm like the fuck that mean

nigga is he gonna be back tomorrow like y'all go out of town dog when they saw that he got released, I said, oh, this nigga did not like him. They had some type of shit going on,

but whenever my nigga was battling, it was very evident that he was battling that shit. That shit was crazy. Nah, shout out to both of them. We could slide on to something else, though. Man, let OJ back in the league, man. I'm going to fuck with Reek, though. He was cold, man.

He was cold. I'm going to fuck with Tyreek. I think OJ was cold, but OJ was so good for so many years. Oh, that's what I'm saying. He was great on, bro. He had that light on him, bro. It was like he was after LeBron. I seen lately Sebastian been talking about how he was the best.

OJ was after LeBron. He was a prodigy, bro. Yeah, it was LeBron, then it was OJ. Bassey was a prodigy, bro. Yeah, it was LeBron, then it was OJ. Like, they skipped, like, Bassey was a prodigy for sure, but it skipped him because OJ,

bro, we knew about OJ since sixth grade. Yeah, bro, and they woke, I remember they went to that nigga's house, woke him up. Shout out to my nigga,

Keenan. He used to play with him. Woke that nigga up, bro. That's crazy. Doing push-ups and shit. Like, hey, God, not that keen

not your teammate nah don't do my nigga like that you were playing with nah my nigga seven footer

but nah they that nigga was a prodigy from sixth grade like bro said on bro like with the light on him like niggas pulling up with camera crews

to the house like and I think people don't understand how much pressure that really is like for you to be a prodigy that young and just to make it to the house. And I think people don't understand how much pressure that really is. Like, for you to be a prodigy that young, and just to make it to the

NBA is an accomplishment. Because you are a highlight with everything you do. What's that nigga, Julian? The nigga who dribble? Julian Newman. Bro, they thought he was going to be a prodigy, and he works at Jiffy Lube. Like, it means a lot for us to think it's over at Jiffy Lube.

It's crazy. He's still doing behind the backs in there, bro. All change. Left hand lift. He sent the Latino community back. For sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, bro. Eddie Real.

Eddie Guerrero's rolling in his grave looking at him. Don't do Eddie like that. Do not do Eddie Guerrero. Eddie Guerrero? Oh, he did. The one time you get it accurate. R.P., man. R.P.

My favorite. My second favorite wrestler of all time. Eddie Guerrero? Yes. I love him. I didn't like Chavo. I fucked Eddie up. R.P., man. R.P. My favorite. My second favorite wrestler all the time. Eddie Guerrero? Yes. I love him. I didn't like Chavo. I fucked Eddie up. I live by that.

Yep. Shout out to Eddie. Hey, it was his theme music. I lied. I cheated. I cheated. I lied. That's your basic. I lie, I cheat, I steal. That's your Mexican song?

No, I'm asking. Whose song was that? It was his theme music. Oh, okay. Every time I hear it, I just look and think of 30th and Georgetown Road. If you're from Naptown, you know you know.

Lie, cheat, steal. Niggas with oranges on the back of their truck. And no oranges. Chocolate juice. I'm saying, how does these Spanish motherfuckers keep the best food

on the back of this truck, man? We not doing that. Walmart could never. Why we always do this, bro? And spray my little tahi. What's it called? You got to quit disrespecting the season, bro.

Respect the heritage. Why y'all always got to do this? No, because I love... Every time we go episode yes my wife is a spanish woman it has nothing to do with peanut about that fruit on the truck she used to throw them off the back of that see what i'm saying every time now i'm sorry i let p get her jokes off honestly and let's talk about it no i'm not If me and he Share Our DMs She is very out of pocket

Why the fuck Y'all trying to do My wife like that No It's not me But I wasn't even Thinking about it But you always

Trying to bring her up Cause you know Why you do it Cause your shades Get like I can see her Motherfucking eye When the racism

Seen through her Yeah Every time we get her Spitting Hell no I swear to God I wasn't on that Yes She ate fruit She still does She just ate it then Every time he get her spanking Hell no I swear to God I wasn't on that Yes

She ate fruit She still does She just ate it I grew her Honduras Honduras Honduras Now Mike chopping it

See what the fuck Going on He forgot where Dr. Sebi was living What the fuck Pee you out of pocket For having a ride on it Don't do that Nah Nope Nope Nope He forgot where Dr. Sebi was living, man. What the fuck? Pete, you out of pocket for having a ride on David.

Don't do that. Not him. Nope. Nope. Nope. Not too much on all. Nope. Nope. I seen Bobby Sox today.

Nope. Nope. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. She had all her dirt with the L on the... I seen Bobby Sox today. I said, yo, Daniel, whoop your ass for these socks.

I said, damn, I ain't never seen an L on the beat. Well, that nigga had them black ass socks on today. I said, yo, Daniel. He had to get that for the sweatshop. Yo, Daniel, whoop your ass. Yo heels look like this. Yo, get them dirty ass socks off the floor. He said, coach, you're just hooping socks.

Yo, get them dirty ass. Listen, I'm done. Y'all are not Jonah's only hockey. Oh my God. Shout out to the lineage, man. They're crazy. When we get out of here, man, Cam Newton got a lot of flack a couple weeks ago about calling out the quarterbacks in NFL.

And he has been right about every single one of them. Perfect. I do not like the fact that, you know, we in media, obviously, you know about basketball. Pro, been around basketball your whole life. We cover basketball differently. I don't like it when it gets to a point to where people who did it at a certain level, especially playing quarterback

and especially playing point guard, you have to be very knowledgeable of both of those things, that we could just have people who come in and outweigh them. I think that's crazy in media. Yeah, they disrespect the camp. Because his point of view was perfect in and on. Man, he hit it right on the head, Pulse. Like, everything he said was exact. Accurate as fuck. Like, bro. But it's crazy. I don't like that, man. I do understand the fact That you don't have to Play the game To know the game

And be able to speak on it But when we got people In those positions We cannot let them be outweighed I'm nothing I don't care how this New media shit works We cannot have people

In those positions Who played And have been excellent In those positions Cam Newton has been Phenomenal in everything He won the MVP Come on bro

Yeah he won the MVP Who y'all taking Newton or Vic Damn That was just That was a different swing. Mike Vic was like... Mike Vic was like the culture, bro.

He was like Allen Iverson. Fair? Fuck, that's a hell of a question. Because MVP Cam Newton was fire. But he didn't have the impact. Nah, he didn't. It's different times, too. Not about Mike Vic, bro. Cam Newton tried to be. Nah, he didn't. It's different times, too. Not about Mike Vick. Not about Mike Vick, bro.

Like, Cam Newton tried to be Mike Vick when he was outside. Yeah, he had Carolina turn the fuck up. Oh, he succeeded. He was on what Coach Prime was on.

He had niggas pulling up sidelines. He had niggas that dab shit when Quavo was on there. But I'm saying, like, when Mike Vick, when Cam was growing up,

he wanted to be Mike Vick. True. Facts. Facts. So it's like, is Kobe better than Jory when you wanted to be mike vick true facts facts so it's like it's kobe better than jordan when you wanted to be jordan that's a great debate too i think the hardest thing for me with vic to say i have to choose vic is the fact that that man went through all that went to jail came back and still

killed that's crazy take two years off years off and nigga come back and you still get a hundred million? Still kill, bro. I got respect for sure. You gotta be a quarterback. You have to be a quarterback. And I mean, you know,

they always try to say black quarterback's not, you know, they can't play a position like a white dude or whatever. Racism. And for him to take two years off, go to jail,

whatever he had to do and come back and still be one of the top quarterbacks and get $100 million after he lost $100? Yeah, it might be different. It might be different. One thing I think people, I mean, I know that Cam be tweeting in the weirdest

cap locks and I'll tell us all the shit you've ever seen in your life and he be wearing some different type of shit, but MVP Cam Newton was unstoppable. That Panthers team, I promise to God, was not that good. He was the reason they went to the Super Bowl. Nah, canvas.

Yeah, canvas. Kelvin Benjamin went from amazing to unheard of after. Like, he did a lot and that is a lot to do in the NFL.

Nah, he was amazing. Nah. But you say big. You gotta stop talking about your NFL tech. People say they mad at you. Fuck y'all. That's my response.

Why they be so mad at you. Fuck y'all. That's my response. What made me so mad at DJ? That was bad. I was sick of him saying NFL tech. I was in this bitch rolling. I was cracking up too. Like, I'll promise you I don't know how much.

I don't give a fuck. The Cowboys is keeping our head coach. Fuck it. We just gonna suck even more. Would you see Belichick might sign with the Falcons. I think that is the best case scenario if he don't go to the Chargers.

I think him being in Atlanta. I think when they said the Cowboys shit, I was just like, ain't no way in hell Jerry Jones is about to work with Bill Belichick. He got crazy and motherfucking hell. Hell no. Why he still want to coach, bro? You ain't tired of that shit, bro. He like Popovich, bro.

Like, what else is he going to do? That's Tibbs, bro. They don't do nothing but shit, bro. He like Tibbs, bro. He like Popovich, bro. Like, what else is he gonna do? That's Tibbs, bro. They don't do nothing but love football and Tibbs love basketball. Tibbs will be with you, bro. You could be with a girl. Be with your wife, whatever. You'd be like, hey, Tibbs is my wife. He'd be like, yeah. Did you watch the game last night?

Nah, nigga. Did you see? I'm about to play a game. I'm about to go up top. 360 on this motherfucker. Now, I'm really about to hoop Tibbs. Yeah, he'm about to play a game I'm about to go up top 360 on this motherfucker nah I'm really about to hoop to you you gonna play for this he like did you see you know

watch the film tomorrow I'll send you getting drunk that's crazy you know what I'm saying like he love this shit like

one of these days we're gonna have like a for real for a basketball podcast we have to have Tibbs on I wish we could I'll call him but he's really gonna

talk basketball with you I would love to hear him debate about the one and dones cause me and him used to talk about AAU basketball and all that shit

that'd be fire yeah that'd be crazy I don't know I think that Belichick I mean obviously he ain't got shit else to prove but I can see him

going to another team and obviously he's Bill Belichick bro he got something to add to anybody's team he need to go in the front office bro that's Bill Belichick, bro. He got something to add to anybody's team. Yeah. He need to go in the front office, bro. Oh, bro. That's what I'm saying, bro.

He wasn't doing that in New England, though. Yeah, but I'm saying it's time. Like, it's over with. Like, them old niggas is done, bro. Not for real. Like, I don't think your strategy, your game plan

is really effective no more. Like, with Pop, I love Pop. But it's like... Disconnect. Like, like with pop, I love pop, but it's like, just go ahead and like, just go back up top, bro, it's over.

Tell me. And I think why they got on the pop too, though, is because the NBA really stole its formula. The execs and shit,

the presidents, they like, damn, this motherfucker finding these random foreign players, turning them up. Now they going to get those types. They getting your

Jenoblees, your Parkers, and motherfucker Timmy D's type shit. So it's he getting scraps for real. And the crazy thing is, if you look at Popovich's lineage, when it comes to coaches and shit like that, they've all been successful. If you look at Belichick's lineage, not all of them have been successful.

Look at Matt Patricia. He did decent in Detroit, but not super well. Look at Mike Rabel, who went crazy, and the Titans are idiots for firing him, but not too many success stories from his staffs have went on for you to feel that way about him. It's just like Bill. They don't say Bill the genius. They say Bill is the genius that don't make other geniuses.

Popovich, they give him credit for all the, like you said, the lineages we talked about with his coaching staff, bro, all of them have went on to be successful. For sure. He's the best foreign recruiter ever, bro. But it's just like, his time is like. His time is passing, bro. It's changing.

Yeah, it's just like, he did his thing, like, and it's just not, it ain't connecting. Like, when Kawhi wanted to leave, it was like, Tom, like, it's over. Hell yeah. I would have sat down. Yeah, you got your next franchise And the nigga wanna leave Like it's like We was out of pocket

For not naming them too As a dynasty The Spurs yeah We definitely wrong Oh yeah for sure We was wrong Even though they aren't The most favorable to watch

Or like I love watching them though That's what's crazy I liked them the year That they beat the shit Out the heat When they was shooting Nothing but threes

That was like One of my favorite Spurs I'm like damn They really just clapping I only watch Because I think Tim Duncan is the greatest prior four ever.

I don't think there's a question to that. Nah, he definitely. It's like, damn, to see a nigga hoop that slow and kill. But he should've retired when they retired.

When Tim left, Pop should've left. Because it was just like, he was out. That was his guy. Like, no, it ain't. Yeah. Ain't nobody jacking with

Pauls with like, Tim doing that. I mean, Pop, like, some young niggas are like, bro, I'm not. Like, you heard somebody say Kawhi was like, he wasn't trying to read about Africa and all that stuff. He was just trying to hoop and go home. You know what I mean? Wait a minute. I think LaMarcus Aldridge said that. He was giving Kawhi books?

He do that, though. Because I play for Bud, And Bud will give you like History And He try to teach you shit Outside of basketball Like life shit Which is great

And Brian speak to Home Pop about that though But that's great though Like when I play for Bud That shit was great Like going to visit The American History African American History Museum

Like doing shit like that But these young motherfuckers They don't care I It's a thing going around on TikTok or whatever it is. And they asking kids, do you know who Emmett Till is?

Yeah, that shit is crazy. And kids really don't know who Emmett Till is. I seen one kid say Emmett Smith and I said, we are fucked as a country. Nigga. We are fucked. He asked Orion, do you know who Emmett Till is? He said, what's her name? I said, Orion probably said, I got do you know who Emmett Till is? He said, what's her name? I said. All right, I got a bitch name.

I said, it ain't a girl, nigga. I said, it's not a girl. It's a guy. He was like, I ain't heard of him. And I'm thinking like, damn, what the fuck they teaching these kids in school? He's 14. And we learned about that. There's been so much history after that, though.

Yeah, but I'm saying that was like shit we learned about there's been so much history after that though yeah but I'm saying that's that was like shit we learned about when we was little but I'm

saying though that and no you were right but to have these kids learn about

that history and our history bro is they're some new shit they probably

teaching these kids now about Ferguson more or less and they're teaching about what happened pre that

but there's still no excuse that they're not a brush today. I feel like they ain't teaching them that, though. Nah. Like, it's debatable. If I was to ask him about Dr. Martin Luther King, I'm kind of nervous to see what he would say.

Hell nah. You got old fucked up. He gonna know who that is. I'm not saying he won't know. I'm saying like he won't know the history. Like, because I don't think they teach that shit no more. Yeah, it's probably not. I asked a nigga on our team today. I was like, won't know the history. Because I don't think they teach that shit no more. Yeah, it's probably not.

I asked a nigga on our team today. I was like, you know who Emmett Till is? One dude knew. He was like, yeah. One dude knew. He was like, yeah. I know who Emmett Till is. That shit was crazy.

I imagine if you said that, I was like, okay. He know. The other dude was like, you know who Emmett Till is? And he was like, huh? I just left him alone. It's probably not in their books, though. You're right. It's probably not in their books.

But I don't fault them, though, bro. Emmett Till wasn't that popular. Like Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, he wasn't. Yes, he was. That was a big... Bro, if you go to the African American Museum in Atlanta, bro, you damn near cry when you go to his area. No, listen, y'all.

With the times today, Emmett Till was not blasted like Martin Luther King. He just had a movie, bro. You can get some slander for this one. I'm not. Martin Luther King is way more popular than Emmett Till, bro.

Yeah, but I'm just saying it was the most... It's not even close. I'm not saying they're not the same. It's not even a day for Emmett Till. I'm not saying that,

but what happened to him was very significant. No, yes, it was. I'm not disrespecting it. I'm just telling y'all what's in these kids' faces, bro. Yeah. These niggas are saying

Emmett Till ain't on no graphic tee, bro. Yeah, he's not on Instagram. Like, they be doing MLK flyers and shit. I'm not being funny. I'm dead ass, though. Have you seen the picture? Would you put that on the t-shirt?

Nah, he wouldn't. No, no, no. God, no. But I'm saying- They got a regular picture of fucking Emmett Till. I'm going to stall him out. What he's basically saying is that

that story isn't pumping. I see. Like, they get, they just put Malcolm, I mean, Martin Luther King with the golds in his mouth, bro. That's one of my favorite pictures

of all time. They got Martin Luther King next to Big Neal saying they look alike, bro. It's a lot of shit, bro. Have you seen the one where they lock arms and they got Chief Kent

on the end with the bubble? That's one of my favorite pictures of all time. I get what you're saying. He has a day. I mean, obviously, you're going to learn about him. Yeah.

But it's just like Damn like That's a big role And like That's important No bro I swear to God You're right But we're talking about

What the kids are learning today Go home and ask Mikey Who the fucking Mattel is You know Why That's a different house That's the home No no no

Why Cause I taught him Exactly Yeah We're talking about the school I failed you, all right? Mike is taking up for his son because he's like,

nigga, I taught him that. Not his teachers, bro. I ain't learning that in school. You know what you're about to learn about? Never mind. I was going to say. Marcus Garvey, you don't fucking,

you don't got study tables. Look, now, niggas, it's true. Sorry, y'all. We didn't mean to fuck up your weekend, bro. I was like, who is she? He about to go all in. Who is she is crazy. He didn't say who is she.

Who is she is why? Oh, out of pocket. Shout out to my dog, man. Who is Emma? Emma? I was like. Whoever said Emma Smith is funny. Bro, I said that's crazy, y'all.

How do you know Emma Smith? That was my first answer. Emma Smith. He was my first answer. Emmitt Smith. He just said Emmitt Smith. More popular than Emmitt Till. It's crazy. Bro, ain't on that note. Black History Month is next month.

Hopefully we can get this together and talk about this. Because Black History Month is coming up. They're like, what the fuck? Yeah, bro. Same on you. Please. Put Emmitt Till what the fuck? Yeah, I'm on this. Same on you. Please. Put Emmett on the team. No.

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