Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on Victor Wembanyama's championship future, DeSean Jackson response, NBA Media Day

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 107 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys REACT to the best of NBA Media Day including: LeBron James and Bronny, Victor Wembanyama and Kevin Durant playing in... his 17th season. And Teague and the squad respond to DeSean Jackson talking about Jeff on The Underground Lounge Podcast with Lou Williams. Jeff, DJ and B Hen also remember Dikembe Mutombo after his passing earlier this week. Plus the fellas discuss Project Pat, T-Pain, and look back on Jeff's career at Wake Forest as a score-first PG. #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:14 He showed love may send me a package of some other stuff at the crib, but we got the croc joints, too He's kind of fired to me, but the new balance is hard. So Much love to bro. Send me the package. I had to rock them, probably get some pictures for the gram or whatever. Turn me up. Them is tough. I like how everybody's embracing New Balances like they should be, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:32 New Balances have been solid for a very long time period, but you got guys like Salaahe, Joe Fresh Goods, they be dropping heat every single year. And them is tough, man. Them is tough. Them my tough father, I ain't gonna lie. You fuck with them tough like that? Them my tough father. I know he be lie. You fuck with them tough like that? My top five.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I know he be shitting on them, but for me, I still, that gray 574 is still fire to me. It ain't something you should be wearing all the time, but I'm fucking with it, bro. The gray 574 and that gray 990, bro, those are classic, those are classic silhouettes, bro. Shout out to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Shout out to them. He said I'm never wearing the Fila's or the 574. Nah bro. They cool bro, I don't know. I just, niggas say silhouette, I think it's something else. Oh okay. He's a freak man. He a freak.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Shout out to the Silhouette Challenge, hell niggas down. Like that motherfuckin' body thing that used to move downtown. Damn, I miss seeing them move like that. I miss seeing them move like that. Sorry. Sorry me up. That being your influence is crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Hey man, we gotta start off the show man. R.I.P. to Ken Bay Matumbo, man. It's crazy, man. Deke! It's so funny because like obviously we know him from his playing days and shit like that, but I always associate him with Team T, because I remember the year that y'all had the Mutumbos, and y'all was like the only people on Earth who had them,
Starting point is 00:06:50 everybody had them fucking shit. The whole squad had the Mutumbos. That one's hard. Shout out to Deek, his back in the day, brother was showing love. Missed my black and red joints. But shout out to Deek, man, he was a good dude, I used to know him in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He always showed love. He'd come in the locker room, talk shit with us He was a good dude, I used to know him. In Atlanta, he always showed love. He'd come in the locker room, talk shit with us, had a good time all the time. Always smiling, always encouraging. He was cool as hell. Yeah, yeah, you can tell like everybody fucked with him. Like he always had a good rapport with everybody. I mean, shit, we already used to know,
Starting point is 00:07:20 on the court, he wasn't on slouts, you know what I'm saying? One of the best defenders, rim protectors you could have. I mean, I always laugh laugh when you see certain players in different areas at different times. Cause like every time they have Michael Jordan talking shit at the All-Star game, it was always with him or Larry in there. I thought that was always dope
Starting point is 00:07:33 that he was just always around. Even when he was with the Sixers, it was still relevant going crazy for a while, man. Nah, people fuck with Deek, man. He was cool for sure. He had a couple cold throwbacks back in the day too. That Hawks throwback was fire. And that Nuggets boy was raw.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Ah yeah bro, he got, that Nuggets was fire. The Navy one is nasty, I fuck with it. Yeah, Nuggets was hard. Yeah, shout out to my tumble man. Even the one you can understand, which you call it the June Jersey, the rainbow joint. That's what gets him too. February and June.
Starting point is 00:08:01 We can't keep adding February to it. I love how we just make up our own shit and he and just run with it. That's what he's here. But now that he definitely got some crazy jerks, man. RIP, man. Last but not least, RIP, John Amos. Did y'all look at y'all phones on the chat? The picture I sent y'all? No.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Please look. I am not looking. No, please look. What is it, bro? I'll show you. Run it. I'm not looking, bro. Oh, man. I ain't laughing nobody, damn.
Starting point is 00:08:28 No, it's not nobody. No. It's not nobody. No, I don't want to play like that. Why are you up there with the? Just read the caption. Just read the caption. Remember I put the pussy on you?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Bro. Oh, that's what she said? No, you have to read it bro what He was pretty much no John Abel's crack at that age as wild anyway? She lying. I think it was like 85. About let me who? Oh, bro. He was in the big three.
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm disrespecting us like that, bro. His kids must not be shit. They supposed to smack her. She lying. I never speak on my pops like that. She lying, bro. I think what's crazy is, you know what I'm saying, like obviously, you know, one day we all gonna have our time,
Starting point is 00:09:22 but the thing is, hey, when I die, don't do no wild show for that Friday. Do not get on Facebook spilling secrets. Don't be making up shit. I mean, sometimes if you add some pressure, and that motherfucker gets a start from your feet up and come up, it's hard to get him out of there. No, man.
Starting point is 00:09:36 You know, God's talking at that point. Don't bring my shit up, bro. So, and don't put no caption up like that. You can just give me RIP for hands- She out there talking aboutP. But she write with a nigga finna spit up like a newborn. Shit, you be stuck. What's wrong? Why she write that? She crazy.
Starting point is 00:09:54 That's crazy, bro. You can't do that to people, bro. But no. R.I.P. John Amos. Yeah, man, R.I.P., man. Good times. Good times, bro. I never watched Good Times.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I would know that. Hey, yo, bitch, it's Week, though. Fuck. You didn't watch Good Times? Yo bitches, Weak though. Fuck. You didn't watch Good Times? It's tough. Good Times was a classic show. Wait, who was Weak? The wife.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Aw damn. That's what made me not like, you know, I love all women rockin' here how you supposed to, but that Lil' Fro shit. The Florida Evans Fro? She blew it for all of you. What's worse, the Florida Evans Fro or the Webby Fro? Florida. We ain't gonna do Webster like that.
Starting point is 00:10:26 All right. Webster fro is iconic, bro. All right. For sure. Florida Evans or Miss Winslow? What? I'm nailing Miss Winslow. You nailing Harry off the dribble like that?
Starting point is 00:10:40 What? Putting her on the corpse? Hey, y'all ever see where the Williams brothers redid the good times they had with the cross? You ever see where the Boyans brothers redid the good times when they had her with the neck? Like that? I ain't more than this shit. You're weak as hell, bruh. Childs of that motherfucker had that motherfuckin' neck. She liked that nigga with no neck for real.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh, God. No neck Jake. Trash. That shit was funny. Who else was in there? But Jenna was in there, right? Yeah. Jenna, the time of Gunsmoke. She was for sure Gunsmoke on that. JJ.
Starting point is 00:11:13 You ever seen that video when Jenna was dancing on dude and they had him chained up like he was locked up to the, wow, it would've crashed out. It would've crashed out. It wasn't. I told you, I would. What nigga, shit was going crashed out. I told you I would. What nigga shit was going on? I would've liked that extreme shit.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Extreme shit is crazy. Extreme restraint. Extreme tea. Hey, if y'all get bored, type in extreme restraint. That was crazy. Barney's tea. I can't even believe me because that's a triple A crash. That that nigga like this so much he saw her titty to the world But like bro, she's feeling on you've typed in a stream of strength. Oh, hey, bro. Wow
Starting point is 00:11:55 Another be all type of you have you got search long mark for shit like that He said good spoken. I'm like, this is like 10 Yeah It's okay. Yeah, yeah. She was older. Did he got new allegations? He was a kid too. King Kongs. She was not 10 on Good Time, she was older. No, she was like eight, bro. The fact check is making it better.
Starting point is 00:12:11 But he was young. He was young too. I moved past him, so it was okay. King Kongs, I told you he got new allegations. She's like six or so. Allegations. That's like, let's see, no, what I'm saying though, and she, I'm saying she grew up on the show,
Starting point is 00:12:21 but I'm saying that's like us talking about girls that was cute when We was younger, bro I mean, yeah, so I'm colossal you tried to though That should have been your first instinct Looking at her like that bitch in fourth grade, this nigga here looking at her. You out of pocket, nigga. I got babies. I got baby, so let's get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's what the internet was gonna do to you. I'm trying to help you out. Nah, nigga, I don't need no- Nah, we talking about Janelle when she grew up. God damn, when she had that boy, Yersersky. Just hit my dick. Oh, you know, I have a song for y'all in a little bit. I can't think of that slow jump I used to bump.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Janet, it was cold. Nah, matter of fact, I can't think of the name of her in Buster Rhymes, had a classic. Ooh. That beat. When I make your body. Oh, man. Gonna make your body wet.
Starting point is 00:13:17 What's it gonna be? What's it gonna be? Oh, that song was fire. That song was hard. Oh, whoever produced that, God bless you. Yeah. That one fucked up. Janet made a bopper with that one. Oh whoever produced that God bless you Jenna made a bopper we got a song with q-tip i fuck with too damn
Starting point is 00:13:39 No, you gotta quit killing niggas he is just fine. All right, y'all know q-tip might be out of here, bro Oh, that's magoo. There, ma. Yeah, RP. Ha! Ha! Ha! Oh, no, no. Moving on. Shout out to Ibi. No, I fuck Q. Q-Tip is a wild name, too.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Just let me fuck with it for a minute. That's what he said on that song. Ha! Hell yeah. Yeah. Ah, damn. I gotta play that song with you, for I've never heard that song.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You never heard that song? Mm-mm. Don't know, you seem to know. Speaking about music, since we all heard it, Oh, I gotta play this song we leave her I've never heard this song you never heard this song Speaking about music we all here your boy Woo! That's what I'm saying. That's why I ain't got people to talk to. Oh, I made it my fucking ass. Damn it, y'all are just killing niggas today. I'm right Q-tiping our soldier boy. And he's stuck, Tony.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Soldier boy up in it. RIP! RIP! I can't even get on. We can't speak about that. Soldier boy up in it. Oh! Watch me crank it.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Watch the world. What's up with him? Soldier or Ludacris? Ludacris, bro. Ludacris, but don't disrespect big Soldier like that. Like he don't have hits. What was your favorite Soldier boy song? Which one you gonna sing for us tonight?
Starting point is 00:14:55 I'm not gonna probably sing it, but. He can't be. Yeah, he definitely gonna hit that one. That nasty. Hey, you know what's funny? Them motherfuckers have the votes. I wouldn't be in the balcony just watching them off of them just doing this shit.
Starting point is 00:15:10 That shit probably gonna be funny as fuck. I'm just excited to see what niggas gonna wear, man. I hope people dress like that, wear the dig dumb ass t-shirts, the fuck that. That's gonna be a good ass time, man. But that's not fair to compare to Ludacris, and Ludacris definitely has. So I'm just thinking he got more hits than Ludacris, bro. time, man, but that's not fair to compare to Ludacris, and Ludacris definitely has. Soja think he got more hits than Luda, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Man, he probably thinks that. Drake stole his whole flow. Hey, when my nigga Soja was running around the press room with that same white, dirty, Gucci headband, that's when he was a go-bro. That's when I was like, all right, Soja boy, he back. Wait, that was your official, yeah. To trust you?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, I was like, I fuck with Soja. He the Bobby Brown the rap, for sure. Excuse me? Soulja Boy is the Bobby Brown the rap, bro. Crashing out, bro, he a beanbag. Shit, this. That's a great comparison. He took the narrative, for real.
Starting point is 00:15:54 I don't know, he ain't have a Whitney, though. Longevity, too, though. He ain't have a Whitney. He definitely didn't have a Whitney. Damn, he definitely didn't have no Whitney. He had, what? Well, he had a Whitney. Nevermind, we ain't gonna say how they were, the pod. What? Well, he had a Whitney.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Nevermind, we ain't gonna say our day with a bye. Shout out to the Teddy Riley family. He had cat stacks, they don't count. Oh. Cat stacks, OG. What happened to cat stacks? She probably clocked in. She started snitching on him
Starting point is 00:16:17 when he hit the cane in the room. Yeah. I ain't heard of her since. Damn, I didn't know he was on me. I didn't know he tapped him. No, she had recorded a video. Ah, she weak. She weak for that.
Starting point is 00:16:27 He had just hit that cane, nigga finna tear her a new one. She posted it. He hit that pre-workout, was about to get active. He had that one song that just recently came out, you was playing for the show. Oh, the TikTok.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah, that she making club, that's gonna probably go crazy. Yeah. It's gonna be fun just because of that time period was crazy. Like you said, it might get spooky if he come in there and not like embrace that.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I feel like he is though, cause he know he a legacy act at this point. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, told you the soldier is still popping in on niggas tour dates and giving them. He just did the show with Drewski and them in Atlanta. I know it probably went crazy. Yeah, I wish I was there if that could have been shit bro.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Drewski brought everybody out bro. I wish I was there if that could've been shit, bro. Drew Ski brought everybody out, bro. I wish I was with the Sint Jobs boys. That's hard. What's the nigga, DJ Unk? Everybody. Damn, DJ Unk? Sort of guy, bro. He had one of the most memorable episodes of MTV careers to me.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I was like, that nigga living in Crooked Creek. Like, how he get on the show? That nigga had those slash, that two-step remix was my shit with T-Pain. Oh my Lord. T-Pain. That's one of the hardest Collet like his verse on there. He might have the hardest features ever And obviously he'd been great for a long time but that four-year run he had like when we was in high school in the cop What's crazy? Oh T-Pain. Hell yeah T-Pain heat Obviously he'd been great for a long time, but that four year run he had, like when we was in high school in the college, was crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Who T-Pain? Hell yeah. T-Pain, he, He came out solo, then he start doing his features, then he start hopping on other people's shit, well T-Pain is for sure 20s. What's his greatest feature,
Starting point is 00:17:58 like collab song that he did with anybody? Damn, that's tough. Shawty plus. Nah. You know what's tough. Shawty plus. Nah. You know what's crazy? All I do is win with DJ Khaled. I know that was a- You out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But I- That's the biggest. I said- The biggest he ever said. Yeah, I knew the number shit. I'm saying the best. Nah, I'm saying the best. I ain't going by that.
Starting point is 00:18:18 But he was gonna find a way to plug Khaled and get a haircut from the nigga. But I respect it, held the brand down. Shawty is the best song. We know what's crazy, That was Wevy's song. Damn. My numbers wise, it was Kiss Kiss by Chris Brown. You want that love at that.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Numbers wise. The kids kiss. Kiss Kiss is bigger than All I Do Is Win? Wow. Numbers wise. That's good to know. I didn't know that. Which is crazy because that song is licensed
Starting point is 00:18:40 everywhere in the world, but it's still Chris Brown. That's why niggas be having to fucked up. He's a, you know, Chris Brown also, since we we there is the only artist you know no Usher no Beyonce no Michael Jackson in this century to you know top the charts I'm just saying I just want you to know that Michael wasn't alive what do you mean? he's been dead I'm just saying like it don't matter like that nigga lived long enough so
Starting point is 00:19:07 Chris Brown tell him that nigga lived long enough. So Chris Brown. Telling the nigga he lived long enough is crazy. I'm just kidding. Chris Brown. I'm talking here, my nigga. Actually, he's the only artist of this century to tap the charts to crack the 100, you know? I mean, most times ever, bro. Shout out to Chris Brown.
Starting point is 00:19:20 But nah, T-Pain hooks is crazy. Yeah. I don't know about, what'd you say for the greatest T-Pain is- T-Pain hooks is crazy. Yeah. I don't know about, what'd you say for the greatest T-Pain? Plies, Shawty. Shawty's a far ass hook, but I don't know if it's a bad. It's one of the favorites for sure. Cause uh, uh, uh, uh, damn he was on a Kanye song with uh, good, uh, welcome to the good life.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Nah, you keep that one. That one was hard. It's hard, but you keep it. Fuck! With Jay-Z. I had to tap in. We can move on though. I'll come back to it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 With Jay-Z and Kanye? Yeah. Go hard? Go hard. Aw. I'll protect the Maybach Music 3 joint over that. Yeah. Nah, that would go hard, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:01 This verse on go hard was crazy. But I respect your opinion though, bro. Good stuff. Even hard, it was crazy. But I respect your opinion though bro. You know? You know you love my man. Shout out to C-Pain. You know, love my man, love my man. Hey, I got a media day, you know what I'm saying? NBA is officially back, just kicked off this week.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I was just looking at random sass of stuff and you know what's crazy? This is year 17 for KD. Like as much as we talk about how many years LeBron has been in the league, bro, KD year 17 and still being elite, it should be talked about a lot more I told I pay for
Starting point is 00:20:28 Did you know it's a plus it hey honestly he saw it off a rap song wonder Your legacy this thing is about paying for the coochie room. Nah, I'm just saying my nigga said. Right after your flotters, bro. Burgers, man, it's Burgers. He caught a kill. Right after your flotters. KD, let me find out. I was just saying. I got a long back deal.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I was just saying, he caught a kill there. Shit, this shit, it's all out. KD paying for it after the year 17 is crazy. I bet he can't even sit on her KDs. But shout out to KD, what y'all say, year 17? Yeah. That's a lot of buckets, bro. That's a lot of years to be doing
Starting point is 00:21:07 what we've been doing for a long time. Anybody else in that draft? Still in the league today? Shit, that is a good question. Westbrook, he wasn't in that draft. It was a year after. It's how you're 16, you're 16. KD in 17.
Starting point is 00:21:20 KD in year 17. Kyle Lowry, 18. Mike Conley. Mike Conley in that bit. Kyle Horry, 18. Mike Conley. Mike Conley in that, B. Kyle Horford, 17. Mike. Damn, damn. Shout out to Mike. Here you go, some Mike. Hey, KD.
Starting point is 00:21:30 It's 19 for Chris Paul. God damn. Repeat, damn. He about to get a 20 plus. That's dope, bro. And some of the footage they've been showing, I mean, we'll talk about it more, the Spurs camp. Like what I'm saying, like we said,
Starting point is 00:21:43 the perfect person to be with, Wimby, but damn, 19, 20, that's crazy, niggas been in the Spurs camp. Like what I'm saying, like we said, the perfect person to be with Wimby, but damn, 19, 20, that's crazy. Niggas been in the league that one. And he only got a six foot guard playing 20 years, him and Mike playing that long at that size. Under the rim, bro. Man, that's special. It's still effective, it's still putting
Starting point is 00:21:58 that imprint on the game. I wanted to ask y'all this while we just looking at random shit, at what year do you think Victor? Wimbledon is gonna get his first ring because I don't think it's gonna be a if with him. I think it's just when He got about your seven eight, I'm probably taking two blue shoes, bro You got about seven I ain't gonna lie. You got about seven, eight, bro. It's over with, boy.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Damn, y'all don't think, the two Blue Choosers crazy. Cause they'll be coming at us nuts, but damn, y'all don't think, y'all don't think when we gonna get it? Man. Not no time soon, bro. That surrounding cast, boy, that motherfucker weak.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Oh, well obviously we know that's gonna change. That's why I said, I give it maybe five. Year of seven for him, bro. You think he gonna win in year five? I think with year five, year six at the latest. Who they got over there? Bro, if- Who going there? That's what I'm saying, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:56 If they don't put him around nobody, bro, by that time period, bro, they're wasting him. Cause by then, bro, he's gonna be unstoppable, bro. He's never gonna be a sure thing to win. CP only went there cause he said he wanted to play still. For sure. He gonna be unstoppable this year. But taking that nigga to the ship,
Starting point is 00:23:14 with how the league is getting with these teams, bro, absolutely not. Nah. Absolutely not, bro. You gonna have to. I'll stand on that ledge, man. I think by year six he gonna have a ring, bro. For a great trade, they gonna have to go get,
Starting point is 00:23:26 I don't even know who gonna be available about that time. You don't think it'd be in the league? I mean, we ain't gonna be no serious. You don't think the league would want that? They don't think they want him to be? Yeah. They do, bro. But no, nobody wanna go to San Antonio. Yeah, that's the stigma.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Like, it's nice. Pop, oh. Quiet, bro. Pop won't be there. Yeah, pop won't. Yeah, pop. DJ ass for a lot, bro. I think that nigga about to really dominate. I think he about to fuck the league up for sure. I think he is too. I think he cold.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I think he got a chance to MVP this year, to be honest. Yeah, he gonna kill. Quiet for the shit. He damn near can with MVP this year. Cause he's gonna average 20 fuck plus 10 rebounds. Probably five blocks. MVP, they gotta be like top four in the West. I think the Spurs ain't gonna be top four,
Starting point is 00:24:08 but I think they gonna make the playoffs. They for sure not top four. I think they'll make the playoffs though. If they get to the seventh, six or seven seed in the West, he might win MVP. No, they roster as. But you know how mad niggas will be if a seven seed MVP? Why?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Ain't no denying it. You can't deny it. You know, they be on there, it was like, well, he was on the third seed, bro. He get a seven seed MVP, it's crazy. Cause he gonna have to be doing some extreme shit. Every single game. To make them win, bro.
Starting point is 00:24:35 They roster is poo. And I ain't trying to discredit none of the players, y'all, for shit. Y'all better than me, but that roster, compared to other teams' rosters, y'all are poo. Right, that's what we're doing. Hey man, if that organization don't put nothing competent behind him in the first couple years,
Starting point is 00:24:49 free him, that's crazy. When your second player is, y'all CP about almost 40. Yeah. When your second best player is almost 40, and you're a point guard, you ain't gonna have it. You in trouble, and CP a legend, he go. He all star, hall of famer, all that, but it's a lot of pressure to put on him.
Starting point is 00:25:11 So for him to get them to the playoffs, you know he was special. And if he do that shit, he get my vote. DJ jumped off a ledge with that one. I did. I think he's about to really like take the league over. He look like a bill outside. For sure. And he shit over there. really like take the big over. Outside. For sure.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He shit over there. Check DJ Vane's for the fit. The real fit. I lost my dog to that fit now. Jeff. All right. Don't start. West side don't do it bro.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I lost my dog to that thin as fuck. RIP man. RIP God Goddard. It's crazy man. Obviously we seen the Lakers shit. I thought it was very fire to see Braun and Braunie on stage like that. Especially when they had the different camera angles. They both seen their jerseys like their names. That was fire as fuck to me. The James and James Jr. shit.
Starting point is 00:26:01 That's heat man. I fuck with that moment. Even though it really don't feel like it a lot lot of ways other people, I fuck with that. That nigga got here, he accomplished everything. He couldn't have league. I fuck with Bron, I fuck with that whole month. Only thing I didn't feel, I was like, he said when he was like five years old,
Starting point is 00:26:17 he seen the nigga and was like, yeah, he going to the league. Like stop. Hunter. I love y'all to death bro. I love y'all whole family bro. It's not good unless we get a good LeBron What made what made that official for me that statement is his son look like? Ronnie's response was what did it for me
Starting point is 00:26:41 was what did it for me. Like, this thing is cap on this thing. You did not think I was going to the next round. My first time on camera you going to put me in this? Or give me some pre-media training, nigga. Let me know what you're going to do so I can play off of it. I remember we used to play them like, he was Devon the last, I see him grow as a player and he became a lot better, but like, Re-Shepard and them used to destroy him.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Oh, for sure. But they had like, what's the kid, Gabe Cup. Yeah, they had him all day. As they got older nigga Mike, he start fucking with him. I forgot the little dude that went to off school to play football, he was cold. They had a little Mike that was in Chicago when they was little.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Big John? Yeah, I mean not a big John, but yeah, they had John too, but that was later on. Yeah, they had. That was like seventh grade when he started starting to get a little notice. Yeah, now when he got, but that was later on. Yeah, they had a... That was like seventh grade when he started starting to get a little notice. Yeah, now when he got to seventh, eighth grade, all right now, people would have said...
Starting point is 00:27:29 He got to practice at his gym. Yeah, people would have been like seventh, eighth grade. I seen it. I would have been like, okay, I feel it. I feel you. But fifth, like five years? No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:40 That's cool, man. Shout out to you, bro. I love that LeBron just give us a good lie every time. Yeah, you know. Shout to him. Every time I talk about that nigga, how that nigga be reading books. Have you ever seen that video the nigga? Read the book the fastest Make this the fucking thumb no I was about to... Bron can do whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Hey, Louise, do not make this the fucking thumbnail. No. Do not make... Please. They talking about... I'm sick. Matter of fact, use Victor. Yeah, do not put Lil Bron thumbnail, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:12 God damn. We've turned to the Bron Vigils, bro. I know, like, we love Bron over here, but shit. We ain't even gonna Bron anybody yet, so... God damn. It can't be under yet. It can't be every thumbnail Bron, fuck. My fucking say, hey man, we thought that nigga
Starting point is 00:28:26 was gonna be on the show. Fuck with y'all niggas. That nigga, we pray. Every thumbnail is brown. Yeah, but for us. Yeah, we weren't brown no, but you know, that shit get wicked. We know how it go.
Starting point is 00:28:35 Yeah, for real. Business decisions. But we gonna talk about my patients too. Hey, shout out to my boy Tyrese, you know what I'm saying? Out there getting wicked in the dress shoes. This one we need a bar gender gender so I can take a break. I seen him had the dress shoes on, he all in on that shit.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Wearing the church shoes, him and YG do that, right? Yeah, for different reasons. Okay. Nothing to disrespect. We about to get some Stacy Adams. Stacy Adams, dude. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 The hero pen responsible. He go get a K&G commercial bags, nigga. I mean, he'd never be wearing the soldier boy dress clothes. My boy be in the 8X. That's crazy. I fuck with his movement though. Like I like he got his own little vibe to him. He fit Indiana. That's the only place you with his movement though. Like I like he got his own little vibe to him. He fit Indiana.
Starting point is 00:29:26 That's the only place you can get that shit off. For real, we embrace shit like that. Niggas going to Soulja Boy tonight, bruh. What the fuck? Soulja, Tyrese gonna be in there with you, then that nigga's gonna be right next to you. We say all on each other's shoulders. Soulja Boy's on a 26 tour right now, respect my nigga.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Ma, no disrespect to Soulja Boy, I'm just saying we embrace like big soldier be on the internet I'm just saying like So the boy I go at these niggas I told you boy, go at these niggas. Y'all was ATL kicking it, now you're claiming now. That's crazy. Nah, I told you at that era, I had big ass t-shirts. But it's going to be funny because he's not going to be dressed like that. Nah, that nigga going to have on a whole Gucci fit.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Oh no. It was December 2019 when the story blew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Nah, that nigga gonna have on a whole Gucci fit. Oh no! It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packer star Kabir Vajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. Hey GB, explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family
Starting point is 00:30:47 and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church, and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked, voila, you got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints. Here to tell you it's going down. On season two of my podcast, Off the Edge with me, Cam Jordan. Can't stop it. You know what's gonna happen. Can't stop it. That's right. Catch new episodes every Wednesday all season long. That's what you look for in year 14, to do more. No, that is wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And I'll have my friends who happen to be some of the NFL's biggest stars join me on the pod. We'll give you a player's perspective of the biggest storylines, trends, and did that really just happen moments from around the league. And you know we'll have fun doing it. Ha, yeah. Oh, and I'll have a special guest each month.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Join me to mix it up a little bit. Who is it? None other than... Syke! You have to tune in to find out. So tap in to Off the Edge with Cam Jordan's podcast, your ultimate playbook for all things football and not football. Listen on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Listen on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, it's Katie Couric. Well, the election is in the home stretch and I'm exhausted. But turns out the end is near, right in time for a new season of my podcast, Next Question.
Starting point is 00:32:39 This podcast is for people like me who need a little perspective and insight. I'm bringing in some FOKs, friends of Katie's, to help me out like Ezra Klein, Van Jones, Jen Psaki, Estet Herndon. But we're also going to have some fun, even though these days fun and politics seems like an oxymoron. But we'll do that thanks to some of my friends like Samantha B., Roy Wood Jr., and Charlamagne the God. We're going to take some viewer questions as well.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I mean, isn't that what democracy is all about? Power to the podcast for the people. So whether you're obsessed with the news or just trying to figure out what's going on, this season of Next Question is for you. Check out our new season of Next Question with me, Katie Couric, on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Kari Champion, and this is season four
Starting point is 00:33:34 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down to history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:34:06 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:34:24 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hey, it's Jake Halpern. We have a new limited series of my podcast deep cover out now, all about George Santos, the Republican congressman from New York who told a lot of stories about his life and his credentials, many of which, turns out, were not true. That's like, you know, Mr. Ripley needs to catch me if you can.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I mean, the guy hoodwinked everyone. He was very ambiguous and sketchy, quite honestly, about what the company did and how it made so much money overnight. What prosecutors allege in the indictment is that most of that $12,000 goes directly to Santos's personal bank account. I would go down these rabbit holes and start thinking about like, what is the nature of truth? You know, like what can I, what can I actually like tell the reader is real about this guy's
Starting point is 00:35:21 story? My phone is literally blowing up inquiries about saying, is George going to jail? What's going on? And I'm like, why are you doing this? Like, why? Listen to Deep Cover George Santos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,
Starting point is 00:35:40 or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, speaking of big t-shirts, shout out to, I forgot that name, but shout out to them for clipping up you in that old school day you used to wear at UNC, my boy out there in the 3XT hoopin'. I seen that. I was bustin' they ass.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah, matter of fact, something talking about hoopin'. Y'all niggas quit tagging me with the John Jackson. That nigga can't play basketball. I don't respond to that kind of shit. That nigga is terrible at basketball. I'm getting DM'd. I'm like, I know his shit crazy. Yeah, they keep, say something about Deshaun Jackson.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Nigga, I tried to play him 15, what was that, 15 years ago? Yeah, Josh tried to line that shit up. And that nigga didn't wanna play. That's what y'all not gon' clip, and that's what niggas didn't tell Lou and Spank on the show. All right, has he been dunking smoke for that long. I mean shit. He he just started talking shit I can hoop I can hoop I wasn't even there. He was he was at a strip club
Starting point is 00:36:33 He like a hoop my nigga smooth funny as hell called me on the side. Like I'm gassing this nigga It's gonna be the easiest 50k you ever made in your life. I'm a front it. I'm gonna get you 25 I get 25 Go to the gym. I'm like who am I about to play? He was like football nigga. He sat, put my clothes on, got in the car. He called me back like man he scared. He ain't gonna play. He scared. And I heard him just talking shit like man you scared but you ain't got the money. What's up? What's up? He was like no no no. Then Lou, Lou was there, Lou caught me. He was like, nah, one of them niggas told me
Starting point is 00:37:07 that you really can hope this nigga didn't know who you was. And that nigga just talking. Oh yeah. Damn. That nigga, that's the real. Put that on your shit. Yeah, that nigga just, he just talking. And then when I DM'd him like, you want bet?
Starting point is 00:37:22 You know how a nigga try to talk shit. Like, yeah, what's up nigga? I'll bust your ass. And I was like, all want to bet? You know how a nigga try to talk shit. Like, yeah, what's up, nigga? I'll bust your ass. And I was like, all right, let's bet. Like, you said you can beat me. Let's bet money you can beat me. Then it went from beating me to I can score on you. Yeah, shit changed.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Nigga, I don't give a fuck about you scoring, nigga. And this nigga never said that he could fuck with you on the football field. Because I don't play football. Don't move the goalpost. We fuck with D. Jack. D. Jack is move the goal post. We fuck with D Jack. D Jack is a motherfucking legend in that field for sure. But niggas just be getting out of pocket
Starting point is 00:37:51 and getting sideways on this shit. Yeah, cause he was out of pocket. Like, and out of all the niggas names you could call, you gonna call a nigga. Well you know, you're not hiding the shit. I know it makes sense. It didn't make me mad though it made me laugh. Cause that nigga said let's do it for content.
Starting point is 00:38:07 That's when I was like. Ah! C-O-E! Let's do it for content. Luis! I said do it for content. Ah! Content?
Starting point is 00:38:18 Damn, he wanted you to do the flood. Exhibition match. Let's play for content. See, he know niggas too tapped in with that WCW shit. You know what I mean? He said let's do it for content, respect. I don't know, we do content shit, but nah, you called my name out like it was.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And I just, my only thing is too, you know, in the football niggas, they gonna talk their shit, cause they used to hoop. It was just when he just used you as an example of why he could play minutes in the NBA. Yeah. I'm sleek.
Starting point is 00:38:51 That's what had me tight. I'm like, bro, yeah, you getting out of pocket now. Yeah, I'm probably not the best example for that. Yeah. And shout out to my nigga, Lou. I make it look like I ain't care, but niggas know. Like, I ain't doing that. That's why when I seen that highlight of North Carolina, I think it looked like I didn't care, but niggas know. Like I ain't doing that.
Starting point is 00:39:05 That's why when I seen that highlight of North Carolina, like nigga you wasn't a score of 10 on North Carolina. Ty Law locking that shit up. Sweet. That's why shit like that just make me laugh. But it'd be like cool. But in his respect for, I mean his sport, it was called I guess.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Hell yeah. I wasn't really texting. Nah, the Sean Jackson. Nah. Yeah, of course I had to see them twice a year, yeah bro. He's a Hall of Fame nigga, bro. Yeah, maybe hella players. He was one of the best downfield, yeah. He was like that for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah, I ain't really watching him. Up there in touchdowns and shit. I heard things about him though. One of the fastest niggas to ever grace that field, 100%. Yeah, fuck the Eagles though. But hey, I gotta ask you, you know what I'm saying, since you're on that, that was your high school game.
Starting point is 00:39:43 What was your like best college What was your best college game, your favorite college game? That was a cool game, because so many pros was on that team. They had Ed Davis, Ty Wayne, Tyler Anfield, Danny Green. They had, I think Tyler Zeller was on the bench, I think. He was, bro, he was. They had a bunch of pros on that team,
Starting point is 00:40:04 so that was cool to play against them, but my favorite game was probably Duke, my freshman year. We played Duke, and they was number one in the country. And we were sad, we weren't sad, but we were in rank. And we ended up beating them. And me and James both had 26. Damn, did I beat them at wake?
Starting point is 00:40:23 Yeah, at wake, and they rushed the floor and shit. That was like the first time that we got like some real recognition. Nah, yeah, that was hard. That nigga James is a motherfucker issue, boy. Yeah. But that Duke team was nasty, Nolan and nigga. I really, Cal Sing is one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:40:39 college basketball players I've seen. 100%. Unfortunately, I can take in that testimony because of what he did to us and that natural. That me, you know what I mean, even when bro killed UNC, Wayne Elton was that nigga in college, bro. Yeah, I am as nice too. They won the chip that year.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So shout out to Wayne, yeah. Yeah, that was nice. That's what they were saying, they was just like, man we lost that game, but I'm happy that season went any other way than they did. Yeah. Nah, that year was a good year. I had a bunch of 30 point games that year. We played Jennifer dead, he gave us 30, we I was that year was a good year I had a bunch of 30-point games that you you play jimmy for dead
Starting point is 00:41:07 He gave us 30, but I had 30 and see me is that's what I'm saying how this podcast It's how crazy in it is the niggas really don't be tapped in the hoops. You don't talk about yourself I get that but nigga the ACC was tough It was crazy so you wasn't playing mother fucker. Shout out to niggas in the smaller conferences and shit, but that was a big deal. The ACC was in the Big East was the shit back when we was growing up.
Starting point is 00:41:31 Nah, that was some shit, but I ain't gonna lie, every game we played a pro damn near. Somebody was going to the league. Even like Virginia Tech, I remember they beat us when we was number one in the country. They had Malcolm Delaney. Yeah, that nigga talk shit too. Shout out to him though, he can hoop.
Starting point is 00:41:46 But it was a battle. He killed y'all. I don't remember, I just had an attitude that game. I think I still probably had like 27 or something like that. But damn, nah, I just had a, cause one time, like I wasn't shooting that game. They thought I was point shaving. So I had got called in the office for point shaving.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Niggas called you blue chips because you went shooting the ball? Yeah, our team was crazy. So, you know, we just be having attitudes. People said I was I was like on this 30 point run. I was getting 30 like every game. And I started getting segments where it was like Jeff T like on ESPN, it just be my name. Like they was like Scott Van Pelt, I'll never forget. He was like, this kid is crazy. Like, you know what I mean? I was killing niggas when I'm fucking with that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Niggas like, you know what I mean? They brought the team karate. Yeah, niggas was fucking with that. That team QT on 2K went down. They was fucking with that. I'm like, ah shit, so I just stopped shooting. Now you see how the Temptations treated David Russell? Yeah, and y'all know I wasn't one of them niggas
Starting point is 00:42:49 that wanted to be the, I was just doin' me. I didn't really want that, I wanted to win, and I wanted the guys, I wasn't thinkin' about the NBA. So, it just became a thing, and niggas was just, they was off the, That's when the team chemistry just went downhill. Niggas was not trying to hop on that T-Way. What about me?
Starting point is 00:43:10 T-Way was crazy. I knew it was crazy because that game, shout out to my nigga Harvey. I had started hooping, I started playing. That nigga, we had a break. It was like he could have gained a ball to me or James or something. This is how I knew our team was just getting fucked up.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And he kept it and got charged. He liked to decide the game. He kept the ball and got a charge. And everybody like, Saturday! What are you doing? And that's where it just went downhill. It was just a bad day, bro. Harvey got it cracking.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Bro, Harvey looked after that game. It was over, bro. We just was sad. We was like 19 and 0. Yeah, we all was killing. It all makes sense. I can tell you how important that team locker room is, bro. That shit matters.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I can't wait till we have James on here and we talk about that one. That shit was so funny. And we don't get James on this year. He's doing enough for this podcast. Enough in a 30 minute span. Oh, God. Any other guesses at? Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 00:44:11 What's so funny though, I laugh at the highlights of the UFC because then we play, I see like LD like trailing, I look like, Jack, what the? Nope, nope. And now as a point guard, as I got older, I was, that's what, I wanted to talk about that too because as a point guard, as I got older, I was, that's why, I wanted to talk about that too because as a point guard when I got older, I realized like what kind of player I was,
Starting point is 00:44:30 I was fucked up. Like there's a lot of times like I could have threw lobs to Alpha Ru, threw it behind me, they would have got a dunk in it, probably would have rose the team chemistry. But I was such a scorer at that time that like, nigga when I seen a bucket, I got a bucket. So when I get to the league, that's why I tell you, like, if you get handed the ball, soon as you come in the league, people careers can be different.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Because I was such a bucket getter. If somebody would have gave me the ball, as soon as I came from Wake Forest, I probably would have averaged 18 or 20 points. You know what I mean? As a rookie. Cause my mindset was so like that. But to get on the floor in the NBA, I told him I had to play defense and run to the corner, and I just wanted to play.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So after a while, you kind of lose that. You just do whatever you can to stay on the floor. Yeah. And you lose that killer instinct because I was in college. Oh, my God. Yeah. I try to score on anybody. I thought I was the best scorer in the world. Like when I first got to the league, I said, like, this is so easy. Woody killed me. You weren't blessed like that.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Nah, none of them. Like you said, the Newark guards, they get the keys to the kingdom now. Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's your job to fuck up for three years. Yeah, for sure. I wish I would have had that opportunity with that mindset.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Like, I mean, my NBA career could still go. Yeah, you had a great career for sure, bro, but you would be a different nigga. If they would have gave me the ball and let me say look just do do what you did Max Dill-T Man, well, I cuz I I didn't even have a conscience bro. Yes. I was pulling threes on fast breaks That shit was so funny cuz I was like he ain't even no I'm pulling the threes on I had I didn't a conscience. What did your coach say when you shot that? Nothing, I used to make it all the time.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Like 40 something from three, 50 from the field. I used to really miss, my confidence was so high. But when you got to the league, Woody just took all that shit. You transitioned well, bro. I'm sure that was hard for you to do, but shit. Lot of niggas ain't able to do that. Ah, shit, I was like, fuck.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I was like, this shit is ass. They can run to the corner, passing a ball? And then when they say you can get this amount of money if you do this, that's what fucked me up. Like, it was all you need you to do is average this and this and you can get that. And then I started playing the numbers game. It wasn't my more like the love I wanna kill.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It was like, they said 14 and five, 14, five. I got 14, five, we won. You know what I mean? It's like, but that's the kind of, you know, you had all them people on our team. So it was cool. It may have worked. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:03 So hell of a breakdown of basketball. Let niggas know they can't play with your night, man. Get well soon, DJ. The big picture of this is don't BT in 2008, in 2009 if you're a point guard. Don't. Don't. All that great shit said.
Starting point is 00:47:19 If you got some more killers on your team, let the killers eat too. Yeah, man. Now finish the swing. Do not finish the 301 by yourself. Yes, bro. let the killers eat too. Yeah, man. I finished the swing. You did not finish the 301 by yourself. Yes, bro. That's the lead point for us. Go alive, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:30 If you are LD or Harvey, nigga, join the football team. Get real soon. My fault, man. That was one that was so crazy. You could tell he was full stride, and Jeff didn't even look that way. The guy did a double clutch layup one time, a difficult ass layup.
Starting point is 00:47:49 I could've just laid it off to a nigga, I did a. I hit that bitch right. See that's why they was slaying, he would do. He would do. Oh, man, I should've been a better team. I wasn't a point guard. Ish was. Ish was the point guard, I was a two. Ish was. Yeah, I was a two. They told me to get buckets a point guard. Ish was. Ish was the point guard.
Starting point is 00:48:05 I was a two. Yeah, I was a two. They told me to get buckets. Shout out to Ish for holding shit down, man. Being in that solid locker room, man, you got Martin Luther King in the locker room. Ish would have threw that lob. They told me to get buckets, man.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Ish a good digger. Like you say, when Norris go. I wasn't even talking about throwing that shit up. I put a shot that lay up. Facts, for sure. Hey, I had to ask you this, so we had a Project Pet conversation a couple episodes back, y'all was out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:48:28 My boy just got ordained, he's an official minister now. You know what I'm saying, be him. He looking for a church drummer, you pulling up? For sure. Who is? You know. Project Pat. I'm big on Project Pat, you know what I mean? Life will live. They playing with God's name now. Nah, we gonna do it, cause you get cleaned up,
Starting point is 00:48:43 you able to do it, bro, it's okay, bro. You probably gonna slow cause you get cleaned up, you able to do it bro, it's okay bro. You probably gonna slow walk him in the church, he ain't getting up there and getting the clowning. You know what I mean? He ain't got that towel yet, so. But if he decides, if he decides one Sunday morning that he wants to, you know what I'm saying, have cheese, that's his sermon, then I'm gonna transfer to portal churches.
Starting point is 00:49:03 And I think he's more like, to to me preachers are supposed to be for real Motivational speakers he didn't been through so much bro. I feel like he's My face talking this and that Calling Talking about They said, they ain't got no decent shoes. They had us callin' chicks chicken hips, bro. They don't know what you're talkin' about. He ain't done waitin'. Look, I've got a back and forth conversation with a lady on the song and they said, Bop.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Oh God, that shit was hard. You know what I mean? So shout out to Project, man. Slow walkin' to that ministry, bro. That's a tough, you enter in a different lane, my boy. They can walk in the ministry, bro. AJ Griffin. Yeah, AJ Griffin.
Starting point is 00:49:47 We didn't know why he would step forward from basketball, but he said, you know what I'm saying? I thank God, I thought it was some help shit. That's cool. Yeah, he said the temptation of that life, he wasn't feeling it. He was like, he wanted to be with God. Boy.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I respect that. Like you said, obviously, when we see stuff like that, we think war is a scenario, unfortunately. But I was relieved, you know what I'm saying? We got reason rather than something else. So yeah, I mean. My thing was like, I mean, if he wanted to go be a pastor or whatever, but my thing was like,
Starting point is 00:50:14 damn, you can still have that kind of faith and do all that and still play basketball. Yeah. What city was he in? Atlanta. My boy said he couldn't win that battle, bro. He could've though. I mean. Bloodshed ain't strong enough, bro. He could've though. I mean.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Blush ain't strong enough, bro. I think it's a culture thing, I think, because it's expectations when you black and you play basketball, people will assume that you gonna live this kind of lifestyle. Because none of our white counterparts that hoop, nobody say that about them. Like they live it easy, go out watch Kyle Corver,
Starting point is 00:50:40 go to church, read his Bible, do all that stuff, and just be silent. Fair to what you're saying though, bro, but everybody discipline is different though. No, I'm not saying that, but if you're going to be a pastor, you got some discipline, my man. Like, it's like Mark Jackson said, I don't wanna go that route.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Yeah, but I'm saying it just depends though, bro. I'm not, just cause you wanna be a pastor, cause a lot of them motherfuckers is filthy. A lot of these niggas is counter-race. That's my whole point, that's my whole point, just cause you're be a pastor, cause a lot of them motherfuckers is filthy. A lot of these niggas is counter-race. That's my whole point. That's my whole point, just cause you're going in there. But I think people forget the sport of basketball.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like, you still, this is a sport. It's something you love to do, it's something you love to play. I ain't saying that you can't go be a pastor and do that. It's just a sport. People put the other stuff on it. Like you go- Moses and them probably was hooping, bro. You good.
Starting point is 00:51:25 What position most of them playing? Power forward. He said good picks. He said- He said- He said- He said- The way-
Starting point is 00:51:33 The way- The way- Motherfucking screen it wrong, nigga, no car on my loan. He said, he definitely said the good screens. You hear me? So, and I agree with Jeff. I mean, you can, but he was probably like, this shit too much, I gotta step away.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Cause what comes with being a professional athlete living in Atlanta, he probably like damn, bro. I get it. I understand the temptation. It got me a couple of times. But what I'm saying is like, if you're going to be a pastor, your discipline gonna be different anyway.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Yeah. You know what I mean? And if you're really good at playing basketball in something you truly enjoy I'm sure you truly enjoy soup and I'm sure he's probably still gonna hoop in rec leagues or whatever But like damn don't give up the dream Like and you can still do but I feel like you could have did both and you're a decent player, bro I shit but ain't no telling oh He might need to step away for some time to get that in order name might come back like you say no You know you think is me you step away. So
Starting point is 00:52:28 Don't be with the Lord bro, what job Marissa stay over there Oh, man. Nah, then you like Jesus, then come back. Nah, it ain't no small thing. Bro, you know I'm a full back. I'm just saying, man. I'm just saying. John, John Moran stabbed him, bro. Stay over there, bro. Shout out to John Moran, my boy had to go to meet him, it's up.
Starting point is 00:52:57 AJ Griffin ain't Jordan, bro. You can't leave and come back, bro. And figure out that really worked for you. Nah, man. You can't mace that thing, bro. Nah, that's over with. Nah, N. You can't mace that thing, bro. Nah, that's over with. Not in the league, you can't mace it, bro. Nah, damn, man, that's crazy.
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