Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jeff Teague on why Vince Carter is BETTER than Kawhi + Drake vs. Michael Jackson

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 17 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague and the guys debate who the better NBA player was between Vince Carter and Kawhi Leonard. The guys then discuss the latest NBA figh...t between Draymond Green and Rudy Gobert, and Jeff tells a story about Karl-Anthony Towns and Ben Simmons fighting a few years back. The guys also debate who the better artist is between Drake and Michael Jackson, and much more. 00:00 - Introduction05:00 - NBA fights13:00 - Kawhi vs. Vince Carter17:00 - Drake vs. Michael Jackson27:00 - Mark Jackson30:50 - Charles Oakley34:00 - Gambling Stories43:00 - Austin Reaves vs. Cam Reddish46:00 - How to fix the Lakers #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:11 New location to my left, my dog, Bishop. What's happening? Let's party. Be here. What's happening, my nigga? Let's party. Look, he excited. Hey, first and foremost, you having a retired pair of Black Forces next to you.
Starting point is 00:03:22 How many bodies did you catch in them before you decided that they was done? 2014 babies right here, baby. Excuse me? 2014. I don't know what that means. Whatever that means. Could you elaborate? Wild West got a song called 2018, maybe.
Starting point is 00:03:38 These is from 2014. I'm just telling you the lineage. They from 2014, man. Introduce the other person. The other person. My dog, young Nacho, young Teague, man, how you feel about that? The retirement ceremony isn't- No, don't speak on them. You're not qualified. You're not qualified. Speak on yourself. I don't want no black forces. But what I got on today, this is some tools. These recently
Starting point is 00:03:59 came out a couple months ago. I think so. Not so far ago. I finally broke them out. They was about to go. P was cleaning up the little area I be having my shoes in. These were the last ones left. Damn. I mean, we know how you want it. Them never be about to go.
Starting point is 00:04:14 The uniform. Yeah. So we can't, as a team, we got to push the agenda for being here. We got to get the black forces. I would never disrespect my feet. You a hate ass nigga. I would never disrespect my feet. You a hate-ass nigga. I'd never disrespect my feet.
Starting point is 00:04:27 You a hate-ass nigga. It was actually somebody said they fuck with them. There's a lot of people. Don't say it's somebody. There's a lot of people that fuck with them. You see the Halloween costumes?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, they guess. They said they kind of... EJ's free. Shout out to the NFL, nigga. Strong linebacker for the coach. Shout out to the new gang. The Tricius. Yeah, he was tripping.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Nah, them is real Tricius. Yeah, he was tripping. Y'all got toches Yeah he was tripping Y'all gotta speak on the world Know what's up Do they Oh they do What episode we on now Season 2 Shit
Starting point is 00:04:55 Since when we start Keeping count of that I'm just saying Hey let me get New solid niggas Start acting different Nah I'm just Keeping it real
Starting point is 00:05:02 Nigga we done did A lot of shows already At least 12 Volume At least keeping it real. Nigga, we done did a lot of shows already. At least 12. Volume. At least 12, nigga. Yeah, bro. We done did six weeks of this shit.
Starting point is 00:05:13 With volume. For sure. Yeah. It's been a minute. Shout out to the volume. Am I right? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Be him, man. I don't like his math starting to show off, though. That's never a good idea. We get to do your calculations. I'm just saying they accurate, bro. so they ain't seen them enough to know they can stop talking about them.
Starting point is 00:05:30 They're not going nowhere, bro. They're here to stay, I guess. Damn. Hey, man. What are you doing? Stop sitting in the fucking microphone. Man, start the fucking show. Like, start the fucking show.
Starting point is 00:05:45 Like, damn. We are, bro. Poor Jesus. He's not even drinking nothing but water. This nigga cap is here. It's fucking new. This nigga just had a coffee. It's midnight, y'all.
Starting point is 00:06:02 This nigga just had a coffee. And this nigga acting like he's there's no Cavalli in that shit. Damn, Roberto ain't making it. It ain't even here. Roberto's not here. He is not here.
Starting point is 00:06:14 He triple cupping the feed. That nigga triple cupping the Irish spring, whatever the shit's called. That's some soap fuck, nigga. He's a hoe. Trying to be tight. Trying to be tight. Trying to be tight.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Whatever that water called. Spring water. That's what he wash up with, nigga. I did use it in middle school, though. Skin used to be dry as a motherfucker. Ain't need no Irish spring. Your shit fucked up. I'm sure they ain't shouting them out.
Starting point is 00:06:42 My skin used to be dry as fuck off the ice cream. That's up there with this. And that's Zest, bro. Oh, that's Zest, nigga. Top five weekend something like that. That's Zest. You can watch that bitch
Starting point is 00:06:52 crumble, nigga. That shit like a granola bar. They don't even still sell Zest no more anymore. Man, they had the best commercial, though. Nah, for sure, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:00 That was a black staple in the household. What, the Zest? Hell yeah, bro. Oh, that's tough. There's somebody, a lot of motherfuckers was a black staple in the household. With the zest? Hell yeah, bro. Oh, that's tough. There's somebody, a lot of motherfuckers in your family washed over zest. Yeah, I ain't get dug. You get caught on the duck.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I ain't get dug till later on. That was a luxury. Yeah, late, late. Yeah, zest was definitely on Grayson. My church used to have the zest bars as the hand soap. Yeah, your church got a pocket. They should have blew that motherfucker up. Yo, turn it out. Fuck you. They should've blew that motherfucker up.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Relax. Motherfucker. Nigga, that many people rubbing the same bar is crazy, bro. I would've lost my mind. Like,
Starting point is 00:07:37 if I would've went to the bathroom and another nigga was doing this and set it back down, I'd lost it, bro. All them filthy ass hands. I would've lost it, bro. All them filthy ass haters. I would have lost it, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I ain't going to lie. I would have lost it. And we'll make it worse. You know you only got like three. Because even the rags be crumbling when you use this. The motherfuckers be shredding through that shit. You got about three or four hand cycles. That bitch is done.
Starting point is 00:07:57 I would have lost it, bro. I'm going to buy myself a GP. Dawson, let that go. Yeah, put it right next to that table. That's an unfortunate you retired today. Fact. Hey, put it right next to that table. That's an enforcement. You retired today. Fact. Hey, man. Shout out to Draymond Green, man.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Shout out to fucking Draymond Green. Because he acted a motherfucking fool for no reason. And I appreciate it, man. I appreciate it. I don't. But he helped his team out. No, bro. It was unnecessary, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He did it to Rudy Goldberg. He's supposed to ride for his team. That's not right, bro. Rudy Goldberg wasn't even going. He's supposed to ride for his team. That's not riding, bro. Rudy Goldberg wasn't even going. He was trying to go break it up. But it was beef, though. Oh, they got beef? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Remember they was talking crazy? They had a little back and forth last year. Draymond doing the TNT stuff. Rudy was talking greasy. They don't have aesthetic. I love it. I'm nothing, bro. That was his opportunity to get him.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Okay. Yeah. I'm not. He got five games for that shit. I know you. Shit, nothing, bro. That was his opportunity to get him. Okay. Yeah. I'm not. He got five games for that shit? I know he... Shit, I'd be mad at him. He probably going to podcast, though, so he going to win.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He did. He going to get it back somehow. He probably going to do a podcast off five games. Draymond could have chilled out. I don't know. He getting that podcast money back. Them five games hit.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Because that nigga wouldn't make 30 million a year. Man, he straight on that. We ain't got to talk about that, but... But that was worth it, though. That was fucking worth it. I just hate it was Rudy. I'm happy it was Rudy.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You'd be having smoke with everybody, bro. Who, Rudy? Nah, Draymond. I'm happy it was Rudy. That makes it funnier. We don't fuck with Rudy, I guess, as a basketball community, because he'd be doing some fuck shit. But just to grab that nigga
Starting point is 00:09:25 and start choking him up, bro. Like, it was no reason. He was literally going over there to break the shit up. But did you see how he was throwing his arms up when he was doing it? That's what made it funny.
Starting point is 00:09:34 That nigga was... This is not me. Yeah, that's what he was all about. Was that worse than Ben Simmons choking Cat that time? Nigga.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Nigga, Cat tapped out. Yeah. Pause. That nigga, that nigga can't hit the ground, bro. I ain't gonna
Starting point is 00:09:50 never forget that. I was crying. You see, cat didn't want no smoke in that one. He had a flashback. Ah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:55 whatever it be. Nah, what's funny is I watched that video and you, you was grabbing it. I don't know what I was, I didn't hurt my,
Starting point is 00:10:03 my pec still ain't been the same since that day, bro. I think I tore my pec, bro. That nigga's huge, bro. That nigga's... He weighs a lot, bro. Yeah. He gotta be 300.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I was dying, bro, because Pat Baird was like, damn. He was like, Cat, y'all supposed to ride for y'all niggas in that situation and get them up out of there.
Starting point is 00:10:17 And I was like, damn, that's funny because I seen that nigga just grabbing beat. It was like, I'm here for shit. This nigga big as shit. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I got him up off of Cat though but Ben Simmons he had some of those going on I couldn't get him I was like yo yo K you gotta
Starting point is 00:10:31 figure that shit out that was big for kind of smoke for sure that nigga Ben Simmons and then he looked up what the picture was happening to that's what make it funny
Starting point is 00:10:37 yeah like that nigga like yeah I ain't gonna lie I was so proud of Cat in that moment I remember he was like
Starting point is 00:10:44 I ain't no hope I ain't no hope I ain't going to lie. I was so proud of Cat in that moment. I remember we got on the bus. He was like, I ain't no hoe. I ain't no hoe. Y'all NBA niggas. I'm like, you ain't no hoe, Cat. Phil, you motherfucker. You ain't no hoe. He was like, I swear to God. Like, he had me fucked up.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I was about to whoop his ass. I really was whooping his ass. All right. All right. We do it a lot. We do it a lot. That's why the nigga in there who closed his eyes and was like,
Starting point is 00:11:02 did I hit him? Did I hit him? Yeah. I was like, you ain't no hoe, but you're doing a lot. You're doing a lot. Y'all NBA nigg closed his eyes and was like, Doug, hit him. Did I hit him? Yeah, I was like, you ain't no hoe, but you're doing a lot. You're doing a lot. Y'all NBA niggas be on bullshit.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Who? Like you. Like, what was your issue when you pushed LeBron, bro? Why you do that? Oh, wow. What kind of? Why you got to bring
Starting point is 00:11:16 up shit like that? I'm just saying, we're talking about niggas doing a lot, bro. Go James. It's fine. No, it's respect. Go James.
Starting point is 00:11:22 It's respect. Well, what made you do that, brother? Nigga, we was losing. Shit, I was so losing, motherfucker. He was beating my ass. I ain't win a playoff game against that nigga ever.
Starting point is 00:11:31 I was sick of this shit. Oh, we saw. And the nigga was, motherfuckers fans in Atlanta cheering for him. He running down the cross. I said, you know what, bitch? I got something for you.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Should've checked this shit out that nigga. He went to the stands. I saw that shit. Oh, my nigga. checked this shit out there, nigga. He went to the stairs. I feel... That's all my nigga. I got so much hate, man. I'm here saying, if he would've been hurt,
Starting point is 00:11:50 I would've killed you, bitch. I'm like, damn, I gotta get off the internet. That's when I first deleted Instagram. That was my first time deleting Instagram. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:59 yeah, I gotta get off this shit. Niggas think a team about to pop up on the ground with a baby. Nah, just push LeBron. I push LeBron. That's over with. Why are they going shitty?
Starting point is 00:12:06 Hey, they be talking about it on the internet. It was just like, well, why did he do that? I was pissed, bro. I don't even know I was pissed because I knew
Starting point is 00:12:12 he wasn't about to win. Yeah, I never got to ask you what made you do that shit for real. That's funny as fuck. I had never beat that nigga. And then the time I thought I was about to win,
Starting point is 00:12:20 we was up 30 for the Pacers in the playoffs, nigga. And that nigga told him, we good. We up 30 at halftime. He told him. I looked at nigga. And that nigga told him, we good. We up 30 at halftime. He told him. I looked at him. He was like, oh, we good, y'all. Them niggas beat us, bro. Wow. I was like, it ain't meant for me to beat this nigga.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And then I go to the West. This nigga go out with. I'm like, hey, bro. I tried to get away from you, bro. But shit, it's cool. Shout out to Bronny. That's crazy. I ain't think about it like that
Starting point is 00:12:47 because I forgot LeBron had been in the Western Conference or like damn it, as long as the Lakers. It's like, damn, a lot of people who move conferences to get away from shit or to get a better opportunity.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Nope. This nigga went West. KD went East. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck? KD made an executive decision. He made a great decision. Definitely. But I'm still, I gotta see how how they're going to play later this season.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I can't even judge their team right now. Who, Phoenix? Yeah, because Bradleyville plays every other game. I told y'all that, though. Remember when we took our takes a while back, I was like, I will pick Phoenix, but Brad don't ever play. Man, I love Brad, but he always had some freak injury. That's been his career.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I mean, he cold. When he out there, he cold. Yeah. Yeah. He just got to get out there. I don't know who be hurt more, him or Kawhi. Kawhi be chilling, bro.
Starting point is 00:13:33 He don't be hurt. He take days off just for GP. I believe it. What about the Clippers, though? They ass. They don't figure it out. Are we blaming James Harden
Starting point is 00:13:42 for this? Yeah. I don't think they would. They was hooping when Bones Highland got the play. They need to move him and Terrence, bro. They need to put James. They need to. I love James, but he.
Starting point is 00:13:55 They need to let him have moments. Yeah, where he got the ball by himself. Where he got his own squad. He should start, but he should be the real second unit. And he should play with Bones Highland. Yeah. Like, I seen somebody. They deep enough.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I seen somebody say they be, he kind of like a poor version of Tyrese Maxey. Yeah. Not as fast, but, you know, can make shots, can create. Yeah. And James Harden played well with Tyrese Maxey. So, like, let him have a young nigga that he can, like, mold. Nah, true.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But that's a lot to ask for the system. Nigga said, I am a system. Man, my nigga, you know, we fuck with James Harden, but that system is not looking right right now, bro. Ty Lue ain't going to let that happen too long. I agree. What's he like, seven in a row or something like that? Yeah, I know he'll drop a lot of six for sure.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Damn, man. But then you got to think how long this is going to last because Kawhi and PG could be free agents this offseason. I've seen Kawhi a little frustrated too. I said he had never lost six games in a row nowhere. That's crazy. In high school, college, another nigga has never lost six games in a row.
Starting point is 00:14:58 He's a real winner. He'll slide. You know he'll get a better on you. Kawhi's a legend for sliding and getting a chip and dipping out. Love it. I would admire him. I ain't going to lie. I wouldn't have never left Toronto.
Starting point is 00:15:12 The shit, not for those reasons, but the shit they was saying. Toronto's a great city. But the shit they was saying, like, they was going to give him. I mean, man, unlimited restaurant. You can eat for free forever all that shit bro I'm that type of time like I could live here for free
Starting point is 00:15:30 for the rest of my life y'all ain't going short and I get a max deal healthcare already free shit I would've been T would never pay for a chicken dinner
Starting point is 00:15:38 in Toronto ever again ever again I've been they've been tired of me no put it on the bill no y'all told me
Starting point is 00:15:45 He probably locked in With a spot so where Whenever he pull up out there They show love He not pulling up out there I mean anytime they play there He probably get crazy love But
Starting point is 00:15:52 I mean I mean I'm the best rapper ever I better Yeah Is it? Nah No disrespect Vince like that All respect to Vince Carter
Starting point is 00:16:02 Cause Vince Carter's one of the ones Kawhi better. Than Vince Carter? Bro, you fucking wild. You crazy as hell. Yup. Kawhi Leonard is not better than Vince Carter, bro. At they peak, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:13 At they peak? Give me Kawhi. Man, you... At they peak, Vince Carter was the number one in all-star votes. I'll let y'all do that. No, look,
Starting point is 00:16:20 if we're going to talk about who better, don't go to all-star votes. That's crazy. It's a reason he was, bro. He was hard, bro. Nigga, he's... Of course, it's Vince-Star votes. That's crazy. It's a reason he was, bro. He was hard, bro. Nigga, he's... Of course.
Starting point is 00:16:27 It's Vince Carter, bro. The best dunker ever. He cold as hell. He was cold, bro. I'm not discrediting that. Vince Carter is elite, so is Kawhi. Kawhi, he ain't better than Vince Carter, bro. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'm rolling with Kawhi. If I got to go win a playoff series, give me Kawhi. When I seen Vince Carter go back and forth with Allen Iverson, bro, I knew he was different. They was both getting 50-point games and shit. Nah, man.
Starting point is 00:16:49 For sure. That Eastern Conference battle was real. Vince Carter is way more skilled than Kawhi. Facts, bro. You tripping, bro. But who you rather have,
Starting point is 00:17:01 I fuck with it to Kawhi. That's all I'm saying. If I need to go in the playoff series or I need to go win this, give me Kawhi. Game seven game, I need Kawhi That's what I'm saying If I need to go In the playoff series Or I need to go Win the Give me Kawhi Game seven game
Starting point is 00:17:07 I need Kawhi Fuck where we playing at Give me Vince Carter bro I don't give a fuck We could be playing Pick up Nigga I don't give a damn I want Vince Carter
Starting point is 00:17:16 Every single time bro Damn Kawhi two way though bro That's cool And it's a meaningful Like a meaningful two way though Two way with 30 And a 10
Starting point is 00:17:24 That's cool He got it's a meaningful two-way, though. Two-way with 30 and 10. That's cool. He got two chips in two different places. Man, I ain't disrespecting nobody's championship. Nah, but he's effective. You ain't talking about the 12th nigga. I ain't. We're talking about the primary nigga, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Vince was the primary nigga. And he wasn't, like, on that, what bro was saying, like, on some winning shit. Bro, he won in San Antonio. He had five Hall of Famers. Five. Bro, they were old as fuck though. Man, what you mean?
Starting point is 00:17:51 They was cold. They was cold. They was still cracking it. Tony Parker was still cold. They was still killing. Tim Duncan was still effective. Mano was still good. Kawhi's finals MVP
Starting point is 00:18:01 in two different places. Now, we talk about that gold slice and getting hurt. I get it. Man, I'm like, for sure. I setting getting hurt. I get it. Man, for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I'm not going to discredit it. But he was killing though. He took the fucking Raptors, bro. Not saying he wasn't killing, bro. Not saying he wasn't killing, but nigga,
Starting point is 00:18:16 you did play just Steph Curry. Well, skill for skill though, I would just take Vince though. If we're just going off that, but winning, you got to kind of,
Starting point is 00:18:24 I guess. I mean, I feel like winning it's a team game you gotta have a team for sure Carter ain't never really had the Raptors
Starting point is 00:18:32 he ain't had shit nah he ain't had nothing he ain't had nothing that's why I can't let you say he's a better Raptor when he had J.K. and them they probably underachieved
Starting point is 00:18:39 yeah but Orlando it wasn't the same Vince nah I mean he was still cold, but he was. He was still cold, but he was. Raptors, Vince? Nah.
Starting point is 00:18:49 And it was still Dwight's team. Definitely. Shut up. Why y'all laughing every time somebody say Dwight? Look, y'all think I'm saying Dwight. They done spit on Dwight, man. He was cold. I can't say he was cold, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:04 You was athletic, bro. That's crazy. Paul's player of the year. Two times in a row. Wow. You can't even say defensively? Nah. You cannot say that.
Starting point is 00:19:21 That's crazy. That little round of white should get different. He an offensive nigga off the court. That's crazy. That little round of white. Yeah. He offers a nigga off the court. Anyway, offensive. I get it. Oh, that's nice.
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Starting point is 00:22:22 when this episode comes out. Him and Cole? It ain't him and Cole. It's just him Yeah he was People was disappointed With that album He probably gonna drop A real rap album tomorrow That'd be hard If he do that
Starting point is 00:22:33 So y'all can be happy Yeah I don't think That's what we're getting I hope it is Them Scary Irish joints I'll be throwaways Which I'm cool with anyway
Starting point is 00:22:39 But If you going on tour With J. Cole Yeah I don't wanna hear that You gonna have some real rap You gonna have some real rap With J. Cole Cause you don't wanna lose that That some real rap. You're going to have some real rap with J. Cole. Because you don't want to lose that.
Starting point is 00:22:46 That's definitely like a versus. It's low-key a versus. Low-key. Who will win, though, in a versus now that we're here? That's tough. And it's going to be Drake. Yeah, Drake got way more. But Cole's a better rapper.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I'm nothing. Cole's a better lyricist. Cole is definitely a better rapper. For sure. Lyricist or rapper? Lyricist. He's a better lyricist. But rapper, making songs. Rapper. I'm going to give Cole. I the better rapper. For sure. Lyricist or rapper? Lyricist. He a better lyricist. But a rapper making songs?
Starting point is 00:23:06 Rapper. I'm going to give Cole. I mean, Drake. But who you think, like... Hmm, never mind. Drake's so versatile, bro. He a better artist. I can't take...
Starting point is 00:23:17 I don't know about a better rapper, though. That's tough. That's tough. Anytime somebody helped pin your shit before I don't think you could be A better rapper I mean you can't rap Cole is definitely
Starting point is 00:23:30 A better rapper For sure Did nobody pin 9am Dallas I'm not saying You can't rap Alright I'm just saying I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:23:38 I don't think you Not when it comes to This level of rapping Like it ain't like Cole Top comparisons Yeah like Cole Is like a elite level rapper So like Are we gonna say Elite level Versus elite level to this level of rapping. Like, it ain't like Cole. Topic comparisons. Yeah, like, Cole is like
Starting point is 00:23:45 an elite level rapper. So, like, are we going to say elite level versus elite level? It's like, you got your shit pinned a couple times.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Like, you can't really fuck with me. These are all my thoughts every time. Yeah. I mean, but the Drake catalog is crazy.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I couldn't even call my nigga. I couldn't. I wouldn't dare do that. But as an artist, Drake probably the best artist in the world Besides like Michael Jackson He might be better than Michael Jackson
Starting point is 00:24:10 Let's talk about something else Disrespectful Disrespectful I ain't say he's a bad performer He ain't got shit on Mike What? Nigga name me I told you I don't do that statistically What the fuck bro he ain't got shit on Mike he's not a better artist bro what the real what? nigga name me alright let's be real
Starting point is 00:24:25 I don't I don't know statistically or what are you talking about what the fuck bro we talking about like a real artist
Starting point is 00:24:31 like Mike didn't write a lot of his shit also was a singer he was a singer why is that acceptable though y'all niggas is crazy
Starting point is 00:24:40 cause he's a singer Mike wrote a lot of shit bro even for other people what are we talking about why are we comparing Michael Jackson to Drake? Because he just passed him for the most part.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Oh, that bullshit, that number one shit, that's... That's a fact. Man, that shit is so crazy. That's what I'm saying is he's statistically speaking. Because statistically speaking...
Starting point is 00:24:59 I ain't saying he better than Mike. I'm just saying. I know what you're saying, but I feel like to compare the one you got compared to Tom's too. I mean, Mike Jackson. Mike had grown ass niggas crying.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He's the most famous. With no fucking social media, nigga. I didn't say he was a bigger artist. No, no. What are you? So what are you comparing it to? Mike Jackson is the most famous person probably ever.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Michael Jackson performs, nigga, on stage better than fucking Dre. I never said he wasn't a better performer that's a part of artistry I don't think he makes better music than Drake oh yeah that's tough
Starting point is 00:25:35 Drake can sing, he can rap he can be on anybody's song he can act like any motherfucker on a song all y'all niggas that be on his side all the time story time with Teague story time with Teague is full of shit so he can act like any motherfucker on the song. All y'all niggas that be on his side all the time about shit. Storytime with Teague. Storytime with Teague is full of shit.
Starting point is 00:25:48 How's that full of shit? I don't think he make... Name me 10 Michael Jackson songs that y'all name. I already told you I can't even name future songs, bro.
Starting point is 00:25:57 So DJ can do that, but I'm nothing. You can go Human Nature, Lady of My Life, Thriller, Off the Wall. Y'all, that's...
Starting point is 00:26:04 You out of place. Who's Lady of My Life? Who's Lady. Thriller. I don't even know Lady of my life. Y'all, that's, you out of place. What is Lady of my life? What is Lady of my life? I don't know, bro. Give him a point. I don't know. Cap. No, I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Everybody who black forces cap. No, what I'm saying. Lady of my life. Nobody knows. You don't even know what that is. I would have to hear the song. I done said that about Future. Nigga, you not making a point.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm saying that's your fault that you don't know the song. Nigga, you do human nature. You was like, yeah. Lady of my life. I can You do human nature You was like I can't sing human nature Sing it Everybody can sing human nature I don't know What it start with How it go
Starting point is 00:26:30 Here you go Alright That's what I'm saying I ain't gonna sing it I do though SWV everybody Fucking sample that shit But here we go
Starting point is 00:26:38 The 520 music conversation I'm just saying bro You could've I'm just saying Michael Jackson He got some good songs But Drake Drake got a lot of fire songs. Some good songs, it's crazy, bro. Some good songs.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Those nigga albums are crazy. Drake has nothing that can ever touch Thriller. It ain't even his best album. I ain't saying he got... Bro, a lot of them albums is fire because people were like fanatics, bro. And they got to remember a lot of people who was behind them. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the same crowd that brought Drakeatics, bro. And they got to remember a lot of people who was behind them. Oh, yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:08 that's the same crowd that brought Drake shit to. I ain't say today. But that's why he got more. That's why he got more number ones. Oh, man. I'm just saying, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I see him in that video with that speed. Michael Jackson had black people support too, bro. It wasn't just white people. For sure. He got black people support too. He does. just white people for sure Drake got black people support too
Starting point is 00:27:26 y'all making my point not like Michael Jackson bro MJ was a god what are we even discussing he wasn't like you're trying
Starting point is 00:27:34 to discredit this nigga's artistry bro like what does Drake do better than fucking Michael Jackson what
Starting point is 00:27:40 what his voice damn they never seem on the same level oh no we're not gonna do that DJ move the fuck on What? What? His voice dimmed. They dimmed their sing on the same level. Oh, no, we're not gonna do that. DJ, move the fuck up. Please, please.
Starting point is 00:27:50 DJ, move the fuck up. We are not gonna do that. We are not gonna act like Michael Jackson before when he got grown to sing. That shit sounded terrible. It's better than Drake. They both sound very bad. This nigga said Drake sings
Starting point is 00:28:00 better than Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson could not sing. Y'all gonna sit here and tell me Michael Jackson can sing. When he got past ABC 1, 2, 3, when that nigga started turning white. I'm sort of glad we're not doing this for clickbait. On my mama. We're not doing this for clickbait.
Starting point is 00:28:14 When he started turning white, y'all gonna tell me his voice sounded good. Nah, wait. You gonna tell me he was Sammy Sosa? The voice did decline a little bit. Don't act like he was just blowing away. We're not doing this for clickbait He didn't sing better than Drake Is the conversation
Starting point is 00:28:29 Michael Jackson cannot sing bro I'm not trying to be But I'm being for real bro But you're saying Drake can sing No I'm saying he sings just as good as Michael Jackson It ain't that far off That's probably the worst shit Michael Jackson cannot sing
Starting point is 00:28:44 Y'all gonna sit here and tell me that shit sound good, bro? It slaps. He's the best vocalist. He may slap. This is a craze. This is how I know
Starting point is 00:28:52 niggas really don't be tapped into music. You can't have no ear for music. You gonna say Drake sings just as good as Michael fucking Jackson. Y'all really listening
Starting point is 00:29:02 to that shit and saying, Billy J, that shit does not sound fucking good. Whitney Houston can sing. Them motherfuckers can sing. Faith Evans can sing. Nigga, Faith Evans can't sing better than no motherfucking Michael Jackson. Get the fuck out of here. Move on.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Move on. Are you fucking crazy right now? What are we doing? What are we doing? This is way better than Michael Jackson's voice, bro. Michael Jackson cannot sing, bro. Look who y'all be vouching for. Y'all being for real, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:29 If y'all go in there and listen to Michael Jackson, this shit is fucking amazing. Listen to him talk right now. But anyway, go ahead, man. What Mark Jackson do? Damn, man. Because y'all niggas laughing, man. I'm still my nigga, though.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Regardless. Mark Jackson got a song with Drake. Shit, he'd be hot right now. Wow, my nigga said faith. That's crazy. Shit, he'd be hot right now. Wow, my nigga said Faith. Bro, turn on Michael Jackson. We gonna turn on Michael Jackson. So y'all gonna slowly tell me that this shit sounds amazing. Like, he
Starting point is 00:29:53 hitting all these amazing notes. Man, please don't cancel us. Like, we just got this shit started with him, with the value. Please don't get us. Michael Jackson make good songs. He make good culture music. You ever played a song with Drake and Michael Jackson make good songs he make good culture music you ever played a song with Drake and Michael Jackson on it no no that sounds like a
Starting point is 00:30:09 bad song you're not gonna do that it sounds like a bad song what else we got what else we got once he got past about 17 18 that voice was weak to be fair when he became an adult yes it definitely the lure
Starting point is 00:30:25 was going down a little bit it was so solid bro it was Michael Jackson he was trying to sing bro his voice was so messed up one day they caught him on the mic you seen that meme
Starting point is 00:30:33 where he was talking his normal voice you thought that D-Wade shit was bad your DMs oh just wait brother please be refined when you say that
Starting point is 00:30:41 just wait you gonna get fried I ain't about to get fried, bro. Because people know Michael Jackson couldn't sing like that, bro. He couldn't sing like that, bro. I don't care. Y'all cap it. R. Kelly can sing.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Mark Jackson? Like, who else can sing? Usher can sing. What's R. Kelly's best song? We're going to remix to Ignition. Honey Love. I heard me inflating at my driveway one day.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Recently? Recently, bro. Banging at my driveway. Tristan White. Hey, my neighbor. My neighbor. Tristan White. My neighbor was walking by
Starting point is 00:31:19 and walking the dog like, God damn. I'm telling you, he had this shit on 100. Why would you play that so loud? I catch Ubers to T's house but why would you play that so loud I don't know what he's talking about
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Starting point is 00:34:17 ah this music shit blew me i'm done done. I was not expecting this at all. I'm just telling you, I might go Jackson voice with Cap, but... That's crazy. Sounded like Rudy when he got choked out. That's all I can talk about. Oh, God. Get you that. We got Adams Apple ad, nigga.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Wow. Now you boss. Look at y'all. Look at y'all boy today. That boy wild Hey He just said he got fined 25k to get choked out
Starting point is 00:34:49 It's crazy I'll be mad at you I didn't fight I can't get fined for that I swear to God I can't get fined for 25k For a nigga choking me Pause
Starting point is 00:34:57 I'm like What we doing bro I ain't getting nothing I ain't getting no Push up Nothing Appeal that Yeah you gotta appeal that
Starting point is 00:35:04 They really be on that though. I didn't know they was like really crazy with them fines like that on y'all. Yeah, you get fined for everything in the league. I remember they used to fine you for your shoes. That was the worst shit. What, the color change? Mm-hmm. Damn, how much was that?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Shit, I don't remember. I used to apply. You got red? You got red. Do you remember the highest fine in the league? That I got? This is a period superior is there anyone that's crazy because i'm sure she said he lost millions damn damn oh yeah those texts and yeah
Starting point is 00:35:33 because they as you if you keep getting more like go higher and higher yeah that's crazy boy yeah that's crazy mike conley made all that money and never got a tech. He's a good dude. He ain't really got no reason to. I think I probably got like 12. He just played a game. 12, 10 or 12. Yeah, for real. Hey, that Chris Paul shit, he should got a tech.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Shout out to Reese. He should do the ball in his face for that shit. That'd have been my first tech. Yeah. Yeah, that was crazy. That was a little dirty, bro. I ain't gonna hold you.
Starting point is 00:36:01 That was crazy. Yeah, that was a little dirty. Mike probably was like, are you all right? Nah, I right no i'm sure that ass he probably did his letter better than me i would kick him but anyway hey man mark jackson funny as hell because he really told the knicks hey all right he said i didn't get fired from this job i turned that shit down don't fucking speak on my name no more oh he said that he that? He said, no, man, I'll take the high road, but not today. Oh, he ain't want to mess with Buddy on the coaching staff. He been smoking with him for a long time.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Him and Jalen Brunson's daddy. He got smoked with Rick Brunson. Oh, he got smoked with Rick? Yeah, I was like, damn. Rick, my dog, what happened with Rick? Hey, Mark a wild nigga. Okay, Rick. Remember back in them boys forget the Memphis days.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Hmm. All right. I'm'ma let that ride then Shout out to Mark man The real T.D. Jackson He said he was tired of Motherfuckers putting that Smut on his name though Rick
Starting point is 00:36:53 I gotta call Rick man What's the beef That's my dog Alright that's Old nigga beef Is my favorite beef Cause I love the fact that Isaiah Thomas still
Starting point is 00:37:00 Talks about Michael Jordan Every chance he gets It's my favorite thing ever Yeah like Mike ain't really him And he be lying now too He's like. Yeah, like Mike ain't really him. And he be lying now too. He's like, I didn't know Mike didn't like me
Starting point is 00:37:07 until the last dance. I said, stop it. Come on, man. Oh yeah, now that's out of pocket. Mike's seen you disappear when it's time to shake hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Seen you duck your head. Them niggas really hated each other back then. Yeah. I think that's why they be so mad now at y'all like. I really want to interview,
Starting point is 00:37:23 don't say y'all I'm out. I really want to interview Isaiah Thomas. I'all I'm out I really want to interview Isaiah Thomas I would love to have Isaiah Thomas because I I love people that really cuss
Starting point is 00:37:30 like all the time and that's him like you know he do his interviews he be wanting to be like bitch he be like you can tell
Starting point is 00:37:36 yeah I be like come on our show you can say it that'll be a fire interview we embrace cussing on our show for sure that'll be a fire interview though yeah he gotta speak the real though yeah I think he would I think he would Nah, that'll be a fire interview. We embrace cussing on our show. Oh, absolutely. That'll be a fire interview, though. Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 00:37:45 He got to speak the real, though. Yeah, I think he would. I think he would. Get on here and tell us everything you hate about Michael Jordan. That's the first time I miss him. So I can battle you back and tell him everything he do much better than you. And then you can tell me everything you do better than me. I'll be like, nigga, you sad.
Starting point is 00:38:01 We need Isaiah. We need Oak. We need Vernon. Yeah, we need Vernon. OG. We need Isaiah. We need Oak. We need Vernon. Yeah, we need Vernon. OG. We need all the fraud niggas, bro. I don't want Oak. Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, we cool with Oak. Y'all don't want Oak? Nah. Respects, but I'm cool. Damn. He was. Nah, I'm cool, man. I ain't going to lie, though.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I do got an Oakley story, though. I probably shouldn't tell this. Fucking I'm going to tell it. I played for the Atlanta Hawks my rookie year. I told y'all my trainer, dude I worked out with, was Tyrone Hill. So, awful beat. I don't know why they had me training with Tyrone Hill. That's how much the Hawks cared about me my rookie year.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Right, G League T. For sure. It wasn't even G League, that shit. D League at the time. Yeah, D League. So, we coming in one of the dude named duane for real that's my guy i love you for real that's my dude man he cool as hell he like hey t come here he like watch this shit t hill owe oak some money t hill ain't going in that motherfucker early he gonna wait till get off that court so we walking in i'm a rookie so i had to till Oak get off that court. So we walking in.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I'm a rookie, so I had to go first. So I had to go early. We had to take the early bus. So we walking in there. They usually had a curtain closed because the team before you, the home team working out, shooting or whatever, you got to come on after them. So they pulled a curtain.
Starting point is 00:39:20 That nigga Oak just stay on the court. I'm like, Dwayane for real like tapping me like look look look look look t hill like walk i'm like come on t you know be like come on t here he's like no that nigga owe me money he owe me money he owe me money like oak gonna come get that money so t hill walk on the court that nigga oak just start throwing balls at that nigga like off the rack fool sorry give me my motherfucking money, bitch. Like, I'm like, damn, it's a grown-ass man like Trey. I was crying, bro.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oak, like, T, like, Oak, man, chill out, man. Chill out. He just firing basketballs at the nigga, like, give me my money, bitch. You know, I'm a rookie. I'm like, I'm thinking they joking.
Starting point is 00:39:59 So Dwayne, for real, like, no, that's serious. Like, Oak gonna smack him. And then, like, a dude named Dre, our security dude, Peanut, he walked in there and was like, come on, Oak. Chill out, chill out, man. And that's how me and Dre got cool because I started asking him all the questions.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Like, man, what happened? He was like, oh, no, Oak did smack that nigga before and everything. I'm like, damn. My fault he healed, man. That shit was funny, though. He was firing basketballs at you. Shout out to Oak With the accuracy
Starting point is 00:40:27 Man I'm talking about That Oak commotion Treat that nigga like it was dodgeball Right That's what I'm about to say Nah that shit was funny as hell Just to have basketballs next to you And have that in your mind
Starting point is 00:40:37 We was at Charlotte We was coaching for the Bobcats Man that shit was funny as hell Hey that's crazy Him working for the Bobcats Is crazy within itself. But like you said, for you to have that many basketballs, because he had some where he had to go get more.
Starting point is 00:40:50 No, he was having to get extra. He had them on the rack. So you know how they put them on the balls on the rack? It's probably like 12. It's like 12 of them soon. That nigga curtain pulled back. The uncle standing there. That nigga walked on the court.
Starting point is 00:40:59 He just started firing at him. The motherfucker's at him like, damn. That shit was funny. Being rich and owning a nigga money is funny. Yeah, he's like, damn. That shit was funny. Being rich and owing a nigga money is funny. Yeah, he's like, pay me my money, bitch. Pay me my money. Old guy, hella stories, man. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Hella stories. Man, that's niggas who gamble live a different life. I don't care what type of life you live. It's either niggas who gamble or niggas who don't. Because niggas who gamble with money, bro, live totally different day to days. I'm nothing on gambling, bro. See, I couldn't live that life. Knowing I owe niggas some money or something, I wouldn't feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Playing cards, though, nigga. Playing cards, dice. Nah. At the casino. You be up late night, nigga. That's how that whole O.J. Mayo shit happened. That's one thing. Him and T. Allen.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Yeah. T. Allen. And then it wasn't Gilbert and O'Boy shit over some gambling shit too? Javar? Yup. Yup. See, that's why I knew what it meant for me to gamble. I don't need no schmuck.
Starting point is 00:41:52 The niggas get on team planes to ask you where that money at. You ain't got nowhere to go. And they know where you work, so they know you got it. That shit funny. You get paid the same back as they get paid. Yeah, facts. That's crazy, because I even think about it, even with Mike, like, the situation that they had, Mike going through,
Starting point is 00:42:07 like, bro, you really was, like, here. And you had all this money. But you owe so many people money. Like, there is no way you was going to get out paying your money. Like, MJ. Sure. Yeah, like, the desk he was on, I'm like, bro,
Starting point is 00:42:19 there's no way you could escape that, bro. Yeah, like, that he had just, like, balances, though. Like, it wasn't like he had credit lines. Nigga, but still, if you see how much I talked about, the line was real. I'm saying, but that's different. When you got people, when you gamble for real, you get a credit line like at casinos and shit. It's not it's not no real debt like that, bro. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:42:38 It's just after a while. Like I was in a steakhouse when I was in a motherfucking Antoine Walker. Like niggas like, all right, bro. You got it maxed out. But Jordan had a motherfucker like we can pay it, but fuck y'all. Put $200,000
Starting point is 00:42:52 on a motherfucking blackjack bitch. We got it. That's like Charles Barkley when he got arrested. He was doing inside NBA. Yeah. That's my favorite shit ever.
Starting point is 00:42:59 He missed the broadcast. I was like, yeah, he on vacation. And he was in the slammer because he had a casino some bread from back in the day. I said, hell no. This nigga in Vegas, they set you up.
Starting point is 00:43:06 They see you down there spinning that cheese, nigga. I'll give you a private room. Get that nigga the suite upstairs. 400 floor. Private jet to fly you back. Do some hoes up there. Make sure you eat good. Dang shit.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Because Vegas might be the only place that I've been to to gamble that walk around and get you liquor. Because that motherfucker Shelbyville. Yeah, you're going to to gamble that walk around and get you liquor because that motherfucker Shelbyville Shelbyville wasn't doing that when they first opened it's Indiana no I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:43:33 Cincinnati no Cincinnati was another one you just said Shelbyville Breaking Bad they got the real dice in that bitch now
Starting point is 00:43:40 everything ain't on the machine no more I'm about to say no but meth in there Shelbyville no but meth the Kyle. Y'all getting excited. Shelbyville no but meth. The Kyle Jones package evident in Shelbyville
Starting point is 00:43:48 my nigga. What? What team is he on now? None. Damn man. He's going to be on the team too hopefully. But y'all know man
Starting point is 00:43:56 that NFL quarterback that's different man because they can just go ride the bench and get another contract as a backup if you want to. Yeah they not going to sign him. He got that
Starting point is 00:44:03 There's too much smut on his mind. Yeah... There's too much smut on his name. Yeah. There's too much smut on his name. Yeah, he might be able to sneak in there, though. He might be able to turn this. I'm telling you, bro. He can, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:11 He might be Bursette. What's his name? Jacoby Bursette. Yeah, he might be Bursette. Dang, that's crazy. I mean, look, the backup quarterback market ain't that good.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Injured with allegations is a lot to take on, man. But they're going to be far out, though, by the time... He beat the allegations, didn't he? That's like AD having allegations, man. But they're going to be far out, though, by the time. He beat the allegations, didn't he? That's like AD having allegations, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:28 It's kind of like, nigga always heard you got a bunch of bullshit going on. He's still cute. What I'm saying, though, bro. Shout out to AD pushing that nigga, too.
Starting point is 00:44:35 I was excited about that. Everybody was wild that night in the NBA. Oh, yeah. Nigga was on that. He did push him. He pushed the shit out. He's out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:44:45 The whole shit with Draymond this morning, that shit started with Klay. I'm like, damn, niggas fighting Klay Thompson? That's crazy. Don't grab my jersey, though, bro. I'm like, are we hooping? There's no reason to grab my jersey, bro. I still need to.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Belly retired this year. Shout out to Belly, man. I slapped him in the game. Legit slapped him. My fault, Belly, man. I slapped him in the game. Legit slapped him. My fault, Belly. That's my fault. That was some ho shit right there.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I got a turnover and I just got mad. He was the closest nigga. I just slapped him. So you skipped to my loop? I did. The real Oakland. He was so mad, bro.
Starting point is 00:45:21 He was so mad. He told me he was going to kill me. Why though, bro? Why were you? Damn. I feel him though. Belly. Bellan so bad. He told me he was going to kill me. Why though, bro? Why would he? Damn. I feel him though. Belly.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Bellanitza. Whatever you say his name. Shout out to my dad. I had to play with him in Minnesota. Paul was like, we can't see him in Minnesota. Did y'all address that?
Starting point is 00:45:35 As soon as I walked in the locker room, he was like, hey, I was going to fuck you up, brother. I was going to kill your whole family. Don't do that again.
Starting point is 00:45:42 I said, Billy. I looked at him like, nigga, shut the fuck up. He figured I'd be joking all the time. Me and him became cool. But he was pissed.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I did. I slapped that nigga. Ran down the court. It didn't get a tech nothing. They bitch was crazy. I'm sure bro going to find the highlight. I'll just look for it. I can't wait.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I swear to God, I slapped the shit out of that nigga. You're going to see it. Y'all going to cry laughing. I like grabbed him. Wham. Because I would have shit out of that nigga. You're going to see it. Y'all going to cry laughing. I, like, grabbed him. Wham. Because I would have been so shitty that you slapped me and you're going to the next place. Ran down the court. They bench was going crazy.
Starting point is 00:46:13 But that's nearly heard there. I was bugging. You was wilding, bro. Bugging, bro. You got some of the best highlights that people don't know about. That's going to be a funny-ass highlight because I laugh every time. Shout out to Gorgie. Gorgie was like,
Starting point is 00:46:26 he's a fucking loose cannon, man. Get this guy off the court. I was wild. I was so bad. Oh, shit. That's what's so funny with Dre. My airbender was like, he doesn't belong in our game
Starting point is 00:46:37 doing this stuff. He only got suspended five games, bro. It's only five. That's a light charge. Man, Dr. J and them niggas was really fighting bro facts bro in playoff games
Starting point is 00:46:46 and it was just all playoff they was like on hockey type time because everybody would have been getting suspended back in the day bro they couldn't do that shit
Starting point is 00:46:53 speaking of hockey oh boy they doing an investigation he gonna get a manslaughter ooh I told you yeah
Starting point is 00:47:02 that's crazy but it's so crazy is you can't even, I mean, you can, I guess, to an extent, but like,
Starting point is 00:47:08 that's kind of hard to even say a nigga did it on purpose without like, getting a confession. Even though it's some weird shit, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I just, I'm staying out of that one. I don't want to see a man go to jail. It was a freak accident. Yeah, but he did kind of. Yeah. That don't want to see a man go to jail. It was a freak accident. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But he did kind of... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, like... That's a Kerrigan, that shit a little bit. Yeah, like, what you on, bro? You know we got these blades right here. For a motherfucker to die behind that door, bro.
Starting point is 00:47:35 That's what I'm saying. I'm saying a freak accident, like, he wasn't trying to kill him. He probably did. It's like, oh, shit. Yeah. He probably was like,
Starting point is 00:47:43 I just want to slice that nigga. It's like when niggas get in a fight and like he fall and hit his head, nigga die. You like. I wanted to knock him out
Starting point is 00:47:50 but I wasn't trying to kill him. Yeah. He probably, I wanted to slice this. That's what Jake Shuttlesworth. That's a good one. Yeah. Basically.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Don't do Jake like that. Jake was mad at Jesus. Nigga, you killed my mom. I'm not supposed to fucking like you. That's crazy. That's one of the worst basketball movies.
Starting point is 00:48:03 This is him being mad at that nigga. I know you hate me. Yes, nigga, you killed my mom. I do fucking hate you. Let's crazy. That's one of the worst basketball movies. This is him being mad at that nigga. I know you hate me. Yes, nigga, you killed my mom. I do fucking hate you. Let's talk about acting in that movie. That's one of the worst
Starting point is 00:48:10 acting jobs I've ever seen. Dexter Shudderworth definitely had an IEP. Yes. He was, never mind. Oh, wow. He definitely was chosen on that one.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He was a terrible actor, boy. He could have played on Pike. Don't disrespect my team, man. Don't disrespect the Pike Raiders. We eating seasons around the corner, man. Lock in, guys. Y'all shouldn't be watching this. Jesus Shuttlesworth.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Is that the worst acting? Okay, I'll give y'all that. I'll give y'all that. It's one of them. For sure. To be a good movie and have an A-list actor like Denzel killing Israel.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. To have Ray Allen like, I don't want you, I am Jesus. Yeah. But I don't like you, Jake. That nigga's reading
Starting point is 00:48:55 off the Jumbotron. They like, read it again? I don't like you, Jake. And what's fucked up is Ray Allen can really talk, he articulate,
Starting point is 00:49:02 but he was just like, that is not our dad. It's different when you acting though, bro. Well, I tell you not to talk to strangers. Didn't I tell you that? His uncle was a piece of shit. Yeah, I'm glad. I wonder if motherfuckers really be getting them type of recruitment trips though.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Hell, I didn't Damn Wait for it They hand me a textbook Damn Excuse me Yeah Nah I'm just playing
Starting point is 00:49:30 You though You get that kind of treatment Shout out to the Hoosiers Damn you got That's one of the Kevins there Mmhmm Yeah
Starting point is 00:49:38 Shout out to Coach Samson Who's my nigga at Tennessee Light skin nigga Bruce Bruce He in Auburn now. You know what Bruce is on.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Shout out to Bruce. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. That type of culture. Yeah. Shout out to Rick Pitino. Yeah, Rick Pitino take it to the strip clubs. That's why I drank hard.
Starting point is 00:49:57 That bar he said about Rick Pitino. Yeah, that's hard. Stop speaking on my school, New York, Kentucky. He don't fuck with you. Oh, here we go. Fuck him anyway. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Rick back in college basketball like it's supposed to York, Kentucky. He don't fuck with you. Oh, here we go. Fuck him anyway. Yeah. Hey, Uncle Rick back in college basketball
Starting point is 00:50:07 like it's supposed to be, man. I don't know how good St. John's is. What is that, St. John's? Yeah, I seen him get beat the other day. Hey, that's hate. That's hate. No disrespect, Uncle Rick. No, Uncle Rick slammed him
Starting point is 00:50:18 in the spot I can. Oh, man. Hey, man, my man fighting Grease to come back to NCAA, bro. Good, because he didn't recruit me. I got to hear it. No, it's all good, man. My bad my man fight in Greece to come back to NCAA, bro. Good, because he didn't recruit me. I got to hear it. No, it's all good, man. My bad.
Starting point is 00:50:28 It's all good. What they going to do with Zach Levine, man? Free Zach Levine, dog. Free everybody on the Bulls. They're an unserious team. The Lakers look like they don't want none of the role players they signed back. All them niggas they talking about they got bargains for. Now y'all hate all of them right now.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Not Cam Reddish. I told y'all. Killer Cam is back. I know how I fuck with Cam. I right now Not Cam Reddish I told y'all Killer Cam is back I know I fuck with Cam I'm happy for Cam Reddish Yeah He had a real start He better than Austin Reeves
Starting point is 00:50:50 He had a real start I ain't gonna say that Nah he is He way more talented Than Austin Reeves Talented for sure For sure But I'm talking about like
Starting point is 00:50:58 Impact on the game right now I ain't gonna say that Cause Austin Reeves do his thing He do But let Cam Let Cam get comfortable He can do everything Austin Reeves can do And he's 6'10 let Cam, let Cam get comfortable. He can do everything. Austin Reeves can do it.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And he's 6'10". 6'8", 6'9". Baby steps. Respect to Cam. Baby steps. Nah, bro. I'm a firm believer in Cam Reddish, bro.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I played alongside. I was a teammate of his and I used to be like, bro, you could be cold. Cause he got the package, bro. Pause. I'm talking about the skill set. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:51:24 You gotta clarify. Y'all be wilding on the show. God damn. What the shit? The offensive skill set is there, though. I guess I should say that. Nah, he do got... He got game, though.
Starting point is 00:51:31 What do you think is... You think it's just confidence or you think it's just opportunity? Because opportunity, confidence, it's all one thing. But when you have a moment in the NBA
Starting point is 00:51:41 where you, like, have a bright moment and something clicked, like, ah, shit, I can do this. I got my role, and I think he had that moment, like, cool, bet. Bron and them going to do this. I can get 15, 16 easy now. I just got to make my shots.
Starting point is 00:51:54 They need him more than he think. Yeah, and he can guard like a motherfucker. Yeah. I agree. That's one thing. I would say his defense is, you could tell he like, all right, cool. Like, I mean, I scored 15, but I can at least go do my lockup. Do my lockup. I mean, his defense is, you could tell he like, all right, cool. Like, I mean, I score 15, but I can at least go do my one lockup.
Starting point is 00:52:06 My one lockup. I mean, I think the Lakers should get Zach Levine. I think it makes sense for them. They don't need all them role players. Realistically. You don't need all them role players. You need somebody that's a good teammate. I don't want them to have Zach Levine, though.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'd rather them have DeMar. I don't, I'll fuck with DeMar. I don't think that that helps the Lakers or DeMar. You know why I don't want I'll fuck with DeMar I don't think that that helps the Lakers or DeMar you know why I don't want Zach Levine cause he take he can't guard
Starting point is 00:52:30 he take away like he take away from like Cam hmm like Debo don't take away from Cam like Cam can still be him cause Debo
Starting point is 00:52:38 like a facilitator a passer Brian only playing 25 minutes 26 minutes you can put the ball in his hands and he can make shit happen I don't know if you can put the ball in his hands and he can make shit happen.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I don't know if you can put the ball in Zach Levine's hand and he can make these niggas better. No, he got to go get a bucket. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah, he definitely got to go get a bucket. DeMar need to go, I think, just because he ready to win. He deserve a shit, bro. He need to go somewhere
Starting point is 00:52:58 where he can win. I agree. Like, I ain't saying Zach don't deserve to win, but DeMar is more fitting for a shit. Well, where do you put DeMar, then? That I ain't saying Zach don't deserve to win, but DeMar is more fitting for a ship. Well, what do you put DeMar in? That I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Telling you out of Lakers, bro. Like, a lot of teams are just filled up right now that are the top teams. Zach Levine need to go to, like, Minnesota. Don't say that. Ironically. I was going to say, spinning the block in Minnesota is crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Even though he didn't win the first time. He would, though. He, like, compliment. That's a good wing, though. Even though he didn't win the first time. He would, though. He like compliment. That's a good wing, though. Yeah, he'll compliment Ant a little bit because he don't, he can get buckets,
Starting point is 00:53:31 but he a catch-and-shoot nigga. Like, he shoot a lot of threes. That's why I said him on the Lakers make a lot of sense. Yeah, but the Lakers
Starting point is 00:53:37 need another nigga that can. Caruso. They get Caruso back. Bring back Elmer Fudd. I wish they would've just grabbed DeMar while they could, bro. They needed that DeMar, Buddy Hill. Somebody like this?
Starting point is 00:53:50 Yeah. I mean, but they said because of Kyle Lowry. He said that's why that didn't happen. They was going to slide it together. He said that dissolved. They definitely got Buddy Hill. They should get Buddy Hill now. They need somebody else.
Starting point is 00:54:01 They need a bucket getter, but just a dude that just shoot. I think they need a little more., but. Shout out to Buddy Hill, too. Just a dude that just shoot. I think they need a little more. I think they need somebody that can create, too. Outside of the Clippers, what teams have underachieved to y'all so far that was supposed to be? Milwaukee Bucks, but it's going to take time. Now, Milwaukee, they need one. Chris ain't, Chris, like. Chris ain't Chris.
Starting point is 00:54:27 He ain't blending in right. They need, like, Buddy Hill. They do. Yeah, they need Buddy Hill. And I would cry if we sent him to a division rival. So I'm just saying, they need Buddy Hill. They need just a Chris. You got to pick and choose. The Lakers need Chris Middleton.
Starting point is 00:54:42 That's who they need. I agree, bro. I'd rather them have Deebo than Chris Middleton. That's who they need. I agree, bro. I'd rather them have Debo than Chris Middleton. Chris might fit more, though. But he really can carry your team if you need him to. Chris might fit more. That ain't a bad take. Chris still going to play defense?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Play with. Chris is locked up. Hell yeah. No, I'm not questioning his ability. I'm just saying, I know he older. Is he still going? That nigga ain't even that old. That nigga, he just look like him.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Yeah, he just look old. That nigga probably 22 nah wait a minute he like 30 that nigga right 30 like maybe right at 30 yeah they like 30 he just look like
Starting point is 00:55:12 he played for 20 years oh I wanna make him all that man my bad Chris this face you know what's funny when you be looking at them old nigga highlights
Starting point is 00:55:22 in the NBA and you realize that was like 26 with like the cul-de-sac. They be looking hella old, though. Yeah, them 70s vibes is crazy. When Mike was 25, he looked like he was like 33. Nah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:55:36 The weakest. Hey, Ewing looked old his whole life. He like him and Morgan Freeman. They always just look old. Twisties. That was a lot of them niggas, bro, that looked like that. It was the hair, though, that did it. Like, I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Kareem was always weak. From Luau to Kareem, nigga. He did look old. His whole life. The midget nigga looked old. UCLA, Luau, crazy. That nigga look like he was in the OJs. That nigga always look old.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Bro, another nigga like that for me, Kevin Willis. I ain't never seen a young Kevin Willis. I never seen Bill Russell, RIP. Bill Russell always look old. Bill Russell never look young, though, bro. I swear to God. Never knew Bill Russell was 21. They all, Morgan Freeman, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Morgan Freeman don't have baby pictures, bro. No, that nigga ain't real bro He's an alien He grew up with Bill He's still living Bro that nigga was 50 something And lean on me bro
Starting point is 00:56:32 That shit came out Before I was born bro Smoke crack don't you And he was 50 bro It's not wasted So he probably close to Like 85, 86
Starting point is 00:56:41 Go ahead and kill him off bro Go ahead Oh no I don't wanna to kill Morgan yet You can't nigga He'll last all of us Yeah he'll be the last nigga On the airbrush too
Starting point is 00:56:50 We was talking about I'm going to put I'm going to put Morgan On the airbrush too Morgan Freeman got to be 98 bro Nah not that though But I'll put I'll put Morgan Freeman
Starting point is 00:56:58 Is he older than Samuel L. Jackson That's another dude That may ever look young I never knew him He was 21 He never was. And coming to America,
Starting point is 00:57:07 he was 52. That's who your boy look like, who we just talked about. He look like Samuel L. Jackson. Who? The nigga you play with on the books.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Chris? Chris. He 86? Morgan? Morgan Freeman, 86 years old, bro. God damn, we look like a good lot.
Starting point is 00:57:23 We got about two presidents left. God damn. No live in a good life. Got about two presidents left. God damn. No, he got one. 86 is crazy, bro. He got one. He still got Jose 86? Morgan Freeman still getting bitched. For sure.
Starting point is 00:57:35 He was dating a younger girl that he got in trouble for. His granddaughter? His step-granddaughter? Yeah, he was out of pocket. His what? Yeah, it was his step-granddaughter, bro. Oh, Morgan, you got to kill him up. Oh, yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:57:46 That's weird. He might be first on the R.I.P. shirt. Your step-granddaughter? Yeah, bro. Bro, that's out. Oh, come on. What kind of weird shit, man? We can move on.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Hollywood is funny, bro. Step-granddaughter. That's a hell of a... That's a name right there. That's crazy. Step-granddaughter. Yeah, I ain't never heard of that one. The real Bruce Alvarede.
Starting point is 00:58:05 So he didn't really claim it, though. Yeah. I don't want no step-granddaughter. Yeah, I ain't never heard of that one. The real Bruce Almighty. So he ain't even really claiming them. I don't want no step-granddaughter. Nah, me either. Go find that other thing. Step-granddaughter. Go find a real lineage. A step-granddaughter's ass, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:17 I don't want no step-granddaughter. And here's a family that you don't want is the worst thing ever. Nah, I'm bullshit. I ain't gonna do that. A step-granddaughter? Nah, I don't want that, bro. Because, I'm bullshitting. I ain't gonna do that. A step-granddaughter? Nah, I don't want that, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Because my family will take on, for sure. Like, we do that. So I'm bullshitting. Damn, respect to the lineage. Nah, for sure. But a step-granddaughter? I'm trying to even, like...
Starting point is 00:58:36 I was just talking shit. You know, under the Christmas tree player by name, when they're... Oh, damn! I might have a step-granddaughter. That bitch is probably 40.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Yeah, if a little bro have a step Granddaughter That bitch is probably 40 Yeah if little bro Have a kid Damn Yeah That's a better Date no right He a nasty nigga Bro He out of pocket bro
Starting point is 00:58:56 Date in Peace son Daughter Fuck out of pocket Man you was a nasty He was never my favorite Actor anyway He was good in Lean on Me, though.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Not a classic film. You smoke crack, don't you? Classic film. I ask the kid if he smoke crack. It's crazy. The fact that people were smoking crack at 15 at that time is wild. That's why I don't have no respect on them old niggas, bro. Y'all was doing way worse shit, bro.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Because at some point, niggas linked up to smoke crack. So you had to call somebody to say, hey, bro, you trying to smoke this crack with me? And that's why I fuck y'all. Because that's a wild fuck off. They did use to call somebody to say, hey, bro, you trying to smoke this crack with me? And that's why I fuck y'all. Because that's a wild phone call. They did use the Smoke Crack in groups. Yeah, facts, bro. Yeah, nigga, that wasn't Dola.
Starting point is 00:59:30 No, no. They couldn't afford it. Crack was $10, though. They couldn't afford it. They didn't know that he was going to be cracking hits. No, they didn't. But the fact is...
Starting point is 00:59:39 They said the nigga who smoked crack before them. Who did? They weren't pioneers of smoking crack. Somebody started the train nigga yeah that's crazy
Starting point is 00:59:46 I'm talking about the originators of crack they didn't know the OG crack the OG crack he's still alive probably
Starting point is 00:59:53 they are more infremen crack ass about the gas station about to BP he had to be 92 talking about you can spare a dollar
Starting point is 01:00:02 OG I gave him 100 damn turn up bro go crazy crack ass dude lives a long life go crazy be 92. Talking about you can spare a dollar, OG, I gave him 100. Turn up, bro. Go crazy. The crackheads do live a long life. Go crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:08 They live a long life. Get an eight ball. Go crazy. That's a sense of respect. Get an eight ball and fuck it up, bitch. Go crazy, bro. Wild out.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Go crazy. I don't know how they live so long, bro. Shout out to the lineage, man. Damn. Every crackhead on 40th is still alive. And they can barbecue. They'll die.
Starting point is 01:00:33 They just wash cars. For sure. Niggas can barbecue. Swear to God. I'm not even cracking barbecue. Bro, them niggas is cold on the grill. Handyman, too. Man, I swear to God.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Handyman. Yeah, bro. I swear to God. Those Yeah bro I swear to God They fire on the grill For my life Before we get out of here Please tell me Where you had
Starting point is 01:00:50 Crackhead barbecue I did I used to have it At Target and Park You probably got a lot of family Yeah that's fucked up But I do got some family That's questionable
Starting point is 01:00:58 Respect But they caught on the grill Nigga And they do that Motherfucking Some Timberlands And it be 98 outside Oh yeah If y'all You can't have All good shoes If you don't got Some out of pocket shoes on the grill nigga and they'll do that motherfucking some Timberlands and it'd be 98 outside oh yeah
Starting point is 01:01:05 if y'all you can't have on good shoes if you don't got some out of pocket shoes on when you barbecue I don't respect it
Starting point is 01:01:10 if you barbecue on good shoes you ain't really like that that's crazy you gotta have that man them niggas
Starting point is 01:01:16 do got a lot of talent let's bro I swear to god bro they can see a lot of important shit like golfing's are essential
Starting point is 01:01:22 bro they can they can fix anybody car facts bro motherfuckers know how to do drywall, any type of shit. And they do it for the love. Motherfuckers tear off a roof, but the Mexicans took over that.
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