Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Jeff Teague & Taj Gibson on Jimmy Butler-Timberwolves breakup, New York Knicks

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 76 of Club 520 where Jeff Teague is joined by Taj Gibson to discuss playing college basketball at USC, the collapse of the Jimmy Butler Minnesota Timberwolves, playing for the New York Knicks, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Last to my far left my dog bishop be here out the pearlies. How you what nasty cool and nasty? Let's get to it, baby I know we out of town, but you know, I'm saying you gonna catch that fine, you know the work uniform Uh, it's cool. It's late night. Fuck it the ties I don't know if you're too familiar with his foot game, but normally he got the black forces with the white laces on I know you know i'm saying you've foot game, but Norman, he got the black forces with the white laces on. I know, you know what I'm saying? You've been around fly guy. Have you ever seen the black forces

with the white laces before? California, yeah, a few times. You just knew it was just a different kind of dude. You just knew, like,

oh, man. Well, be careful. Of course. Lock your doors. Nah, man,

you can't do that. What size you, 16? 15. 15, 15. We can't do that. What size you 16? 15. 15. 15. We'll get you a 14. They run a size bigger.

I got you. Say less. Introduce that nigga to us. Yeah, get to me, man. Yo. My right. That's crazy. My dog, Young Nacho, Young T.

How you work? I'm chilling, bro. Glad to go. Got my guy in the building, Taj. Woo. Hey, yo. It's chilling, bro. Glad to go. Got my guy in the building, Tajee. Woo! Hey, it's lit, man. But it's cool to be in Orlando. I get to see some of the guys.

Man, we have an experience there, so it's cool. For sure, man. We out here in Orlando doing a little bit of Lord's work. Got a special guest on our left. Tenure vet, one of the coolest dudes to ever play in the NBA. Been around a long time. Great scenes, great stories, and everybody speaks nothing but high respect to this man. We got Tyus Gibson in the building.

Tyus, appreciate you pulling up on this big dog. Yo, fellas. It's a pleasure, man. Been watching a lot of episodes. I'm just waiting to see what y'all going to say today, man. Who the most fucked up person on the show? You watch it, bro. You had me a little bit some days.

Yeah. Is he like that? Come on, Tosh. But being around the Midwest, y'all some of the most coolest guys. Yeah, for sure. You got to understand the temperament. I've been around a long time, so I laugh with it. I can take a joke, bro.

So I ain't going to make you pick. It's cool. He made a decision. It was just you. The decision was made. He's well prepared, right? He did. For sure, man.

Listen, man. Y'all got a crazy order story, man. Normally, we ask about your preps going to, obviously, you know what I'm saying? You went crazy in high school. I want to fast forward a little bit. No, we on the road. We ain't used to this type of merger. I'm sitting like, be hitting this.

Get your posture together, man. I need a slouch. Get your posture straight. That motherfucker got some sprinters on today. Yeah, I was like, I'm going to take it out. Like, I do. You know, this motherfucker is locked in. Shout out to the suite.

Hey, you know what I'm saying? Once upon a time, you was making a college decision. That's when y'all first crossed paths, man. Yeah, Tim Floyd was recruiting me at USC, and Taj was already there. And O.J. Mayo, me and him was the same year. Taj was there. I went to campus, and they like, yeah, everybody get a truck. Taj had the big boy expedition.

I'm like, yo, they getting money. My pops like, you're not going there. They do not do things by the book. I was like, yeah, I need to be there. Taj had it already. I was like, I need to be there. Taj had it already. I was like, oh, he's shining. Whole time, I'm thinking they cheap. I'm like, man,

Wake Forest got it. Wake Forest had no money. Wake Forest had no money. We got some money, but it wasn't USC money. No, Wake Forest wouldn't fuck with that NIL back then. Nah, I mean, eventually.

We was taken care of. Expeditions was fire back then. Yeah. You went to 06, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was elite. Nah, it was shining. You was living different.

Nah, it was shining. I got to ask y'all, around that time period, what was them cars that was like? Obviously, we was all the time time We was wishing we could get them What was that car You was just like I gotta have that Or it was outside That was crazy

Cause like back then The Lincoln Navigator Was like the Kodachin R To me Nah I wanted The Bubble Caprice We had some I knew it was shit

I wanted a Bubble Caprice I wanted the The H Was the H2 The H2 That's what I had Legendary vehicle I had that I had the H2 It was the H2. That's what I had. Legendary vehicle.

I had that. I had the H2, and I had a black one. I had an H3 Hummer, a real one. It eat gas. Yeah, it do. And the hoop sessions was legit in there, motherfuckers. That back seat laid down in that house. You're going to get some work done.

Oh, yeah. You're going to get some real work done. Study all. Buy a room, bro. Buy a room, bro. Buy a room, bro. All right, Taj. Imagine this nigga sliding on you with the black forces with the white laces and a Hummer. You don't know what type of time he on.

Taj. I know. I know for one he down for whatever. For sure. He still good time. He down for whatever in them spaces. Shout out to whatever your situation is now. I'm saying back there, the 06 when niggas was young

You could have borrowed it bro We could have swapped it out That's crazy Work is nasty Nasty work bro Nasty work bro I can take the Eddie Bowie I can take the Eddie Bowie I love when we part out of town. Taj, man, how'd you get to USC, man?

Shit, man. Man, I was waiting around a long time. I didn't know if I was was gonna even make it to college be honest with you um i was thinking i was going to go to jc route if not that damn pop i was just gonna go straight to construction just try to just get a hustle maybe do what i gotta do and make make ends meet but that's how that's how most black men have kind of figured it out when i was coming up i was just like damn like la is a little different my friends getting kicked out of the house left and right a lot of single families it was it was a little scary but

i didn't but by the grace of god that last day i got i just so happened to get qualified i did not think i was passing that sat i did not think i was getting those grades. I was like, it's up. When I got in that door, man, God just worked with you in so many different places, and faith was strong, man, to be honest with you. Salute. And it's like, especially, obviously, we're telling our age with this,

but to hear that time period, how many times have people had to wait for those type of tests when it's just like a lot of them tests ain't even built for us to even pass or be successful in. Like, not trying to be on our walk shit, but that stuff wasn't designed for us to better ourselves.

So it's just like for you to have to wait to that last decision, that shit is crazy. That's tough. I'm glad it worked out for you, but like, to get on the lighter side,

like, coming out of high school, how much money you think you would've got off the NIL? Even though they paid you AOC, but don't worry about that. But if you would have been coming out right now. Low ball number.

It's 500. Ooh, facts. It's 500. Bro, facts. Because we came up in a time where dudes was really official. Yeah. Like, when you look at it now, it's a little bit watered down. And we kind of contributed to that

but coming up even looking back on some of the highlights i'm looking i missed the long shorts i mean this this the small stuff about it like that's what i love about our um draft class like even though we we all doing our own things but we all love like we always made sure we showed each other love and that's a fact That's a fact That's hard bro I damn near got Everybody's jersey In our draft class

Besides Ricky Rubio Coincidence? Nah I asked him I just ain't never get Shout out to Ricky He didn't get it to you bro

Give us some He forgave you by now I'll take a Barcelona jersey For sure bro That's right bro Show love Ricky Give us some real. He forgave you by now. I'll take a Barcelona jersey. For sure, bro. That's right, bro. Show love, Ricky. Show love.

Yeah, man. The NIL shit is so crazy because like working with some of the top prospects going on now, like they in high school seeing tickets before they even get to college. Yeah. And like it's so hard to keep them reeled in. But at the same time, just like i'm making generational money at 16 what you really gonna tell me and now they get so much money off the social media sites it's a totally different ball game now i think a lot of that camaraderie is lost because everything is legitimately a business now yeah that's true yeah how do you combat that like as far as like keeping them like obviously you're talking to the young kids like

i'm already at this level but how do you keep them grounded obviously with you coaching with the kids like how do y'all keep them somewhat focused when it's so easy to get lost with this shit uh me i just try to it's so tough because i've never been in that position to make money in high school so i don't even know how to navigate it for them like i can speak from like the nba experience like try to do this try to do that like as far as like saving and stuff but like to get money at 17 18 i don't i can't help you because i don't know what i would have did at 16 with 500 000 i know what i did working at meyer with 500 and that shit was gone them jordan's enforcers was every weekend so I can't even imagine what they're doing, how they feel.

Hell yeah. My opinion, you got to think about it. You got to look at the parents, too. You got to look at it. You got to zoom in on how the household is. Half these kids not even checking that account. Moms and dad, or either just moms got that account. He may be doing his little thing, but the parents are mostly getting all the money.

Then you got a crew. He got his uncle, uncle, cousins, a few guys. So he already getting trained to be in that mindset of taking care of the family already at 17. Before you know it, he'd be 22, 23, popped, broke, trying to play overseas, trying to do what he got to do, and nobody's teaching him nothing. Because once the money's gone, they don't tell you that everybody falls back. Your homie can fall back off the field just telling them, no, I got it right now. But he don't know you really messed up like that.

The money go really quick, fellas. And I'm on a back end a little bit right now, and I'm just looking like, man. I'm preparing for the next level, and I'm seeing a lot of guys really not not there like they really still trying to get back into the league wondering why I don't want to be that kind of guy begging like yo pick me pick me yo please why didn't I why can I not just take it and keep it pushing this game is twisted for real yeah that's not that's real and even I mean we ain't gonna fast forward too much but being a breadwinner in your house, if you get drafted at 21, 22, like you said,

to be there at 17, 18, that's an absurd amount of pressure. Because they don't even know how taxes work yet. Nah, that's tough. That's tough. I mean, you're going to run through the majority of it, but shit, hopefully when they go to these universities, give them some type of financial literacy class or something. At least, bro. Yeah. Just give them somebody type of financial literacy class or something at least bro yeah just give them somebody gotta have a course bro that's why i'm like excited about what

the nba pa is doing with this the top 100 camp yeah they got classes they're gonna learn about that but being around guys like tides who've been in the league for 15 plus years it's like they can give you that advice like him just saying that and somebody watching it gonna be like yeah that's that's valuable you know i mean for sure for sure yo we're this close to crowning a new nba champion and with the playoffs coming to an end you've got to have the advantage of the draft king sportsbook and official sports betting partner of the nba all you got to do download the drag team sportsbook app now and use code CLUB520. That's code CLUB520 for new customers to get $150 in bonus bets when you bet just $5. Yep, that's code CLUB520 for new customers to get $150 in bonus bets for betting just a minimum of $5.

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you know what I'm saying? You was in there with who would have been probably one of the biggest NIL stars of all time, the homie Juice. That's my man. Shout out to Juice, big fan of the pod. Hey, man. Y'all, you almost went there, but y'all had something special, man. Yeah, man.

Shit. We had Jeff, man. Forget about it. But it worked out how it worked out. Juice, when he came, like, people don't understand how good he was. And I didn't understand like money until Juice

really got there like I didn't understand like the real perception behind money how to be a pro he's a he's a freshman and I'm really figuring out

like this the NBA lifestyle like this how you supposed to carry it like and I'm not ashamed I'm ashamed to say that cause most cause I'm always gonna give guys

This flower Like I learned a lot from Juice And a lot of dudes Gotta learn a lot Juice was giving out bread Making sure dudes could eat And people ain't gonna Never tell you that about Juice

They gonna say He came He was nice He got the bread He took some bread and left No Juice got that bread And Juice was making sure

Every man on the team had money Yeah If he went somewhere We was with him So like You gotta look at the whole spectrum of this game. You got to take what you can. Take your family with you. Constantly smile because you suck as a boy.

I think he's trying to pull you down every minute of the game. That's a fact. Nah, we sure love the juice for real. So, it's good to hear you say that because it'd be a lot of smut being put on this night for sure. That's dope though, but you had a chance to play with DeMar too. So to have two premier shooting guards on your team, what was that like having OJ the next year? DeMar come in and it's like...

The crazy thing about it, I came into the situation it was nick young and i'm like swaggy that's three people understand like swaggy we had multiple scouts in the gym that's when i knew like all right if i got if i want to really work hard get to the league let me just try to just be next to him and i wasn't one of those guys i'm one of those teammates like i'm if if i don't know some i'm gonna ask you that i've never been that kind of guy just be like i don't mess with him i just try to ask you. I've never been that kind of guy. I just be like, nah, I don't mess with them. I just try to show as much love as I can because you only got 24 hours in a day, man. You're dropping like flies.

But first thing, I had Nick. Nick was the first one to go. Lottery. OJ came in. I'm like, damn, we're coming in here. So now, step your shit up. You're going to have a chance to go to the league. OJ come in,

he leave. I'm like, third year, I'm like, I'm ready to go, man. It's not that many girls left on campus. You know everybody.

It's like, the money is not the same. You're looking around at your counterparts like, I ain't feeling this. And you look at your head coach, like he's still making three, four million dollars a year. You something i gotta get out of here then tomorrow

come but that's my brother though it's recipes the pops yeah this pops it a lot for me is when i first moved to california i didn't know nobody his dad from the first old jesus like if you ever need anything call my phone if you if you ever feel homesick, we here. You come to Compton, you good. Like, you know what I'm saying? And I always remember to this day, and then the year that he passed a few years ago, it kind of rocked me to my core, but it shows me, like, you never know who's going to give you that words of inspiration.

You know what I'm saying? You never know who's going to, like, really look out for you because this man is so confident. Like, I'm from Brooklyn, New York. I didn't know nobody. I'm mismatching. I'm getting banged on, gang banged on. Yo, where you from?

Oh, come on. Come on. I'm like, hold on a second. I'm not going to tell you a horrifying story. Close, close, close. We don't let you go out like that, man. No, I can't go out like that. That's just hard-fought story, man. Pull, pull, pull. We don't let you go out like that, man. Nah, I can't go out like that. That's just every category.

I told him my personal business, man. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that's good that he pulled you in. I said pull him, though. Yeah, we fucking with you, bro. I get young kids back home. I'm like, you know, them young kids. But it's tough, man.

Like, I don't know how I'm here, bro. Be honest. Hard work, bro. Yeah. For a green. Can't tell you people say they've been in the league 15 years, bro. For real. For sure, bro.

You would hit in jail. Like, each day I wake up, man, and I still get that phone call. It's still like, why me? I'm still saying that to myself. Yeah. Like, when I got the call early in the year, I'm'm on the i'm really watching y'all like i'm chilling the couch i'm like i don't know like every player goes through that yeah like at one point after you get cut that right before the season starts you like i think i'm done you know what i'm saying like if you really work and

you be like i don't know. Let me see. And then you get that phone call. I'm like, man, am I doing something crazy? Am I taking the spot that somebody needs? You can't think like that because the motherfucker told me, nobody going to give a fuck about your mom and dad. Nobody going to give a fuck about your kids. Nobody going to give a fuck about your cousins.

Do what you got to do. Yeah, 100. Yeah. Take that bread and run. Smile. nobody gonna fuck about your cousins do what you gotta do yup 100 yup take that bread and run smile run run get the bread

and run run who else has recruited you though I had most of USC before USC

most of my schools I wanted I wanted to stay on the west coast by that time I had a full hold on the west coast of UCLA

Arizona Texas teams I can run I wanted to stay on the West Coast. By that time, I had a full hold on the West Coast. It was UCLA, Arizona, Texas. Teams I can run, UConn. Teams on the East Coast was UConn, St. John's. I had a few, but my grades wasn't there. So I had to really take my time and figure out, like, what team is really going to, like, help me. Like, SC was coming through, making sure I had tutors making sure I had to get through what I had to get through okay no salute taking care of that only

way it's supposed to all right nah thanks bro and I didn't put two and two together but you was a SC when SC football was yeah man yeah it was a juggernaut so we all was you know hell of a time to be on campus they took care of us They took good care of us at that school, man, I tell you. Shout out to that seat, man. I went to the right school for me,

but I ain't gonna lie, I wanted to go there, though. I was like, that shit hard. My dad was like, wait, no, no way.

I know that was hard passing up on UConn and Syracuse and St. John's. It was tough because you look at UConn, they had Stanley Robinson

rest in peace Kirk Kelly Kirk Kelly was wrong they just forget about him yeah Hashim to beat they had they had a lot of bigs

and then you got that grace period when you waiting for the signing and you waiting to see who's gonna come to your house early in the morning

on one of those days on the draft doing that little recruiting process. And you be like, oh, they don't really like me like that. They ain't show up. So, you see who's really like, all right, I'm here. I'm here for you.

For sure. For sure. Obviously, going through the draft process, got to ask, how was that? You know what I'm saying? Waiting your turn in USC, and now you get your big turn in the league. How was that? And what was that first thing you went crazy on? You know what I'm saying?

I know you smart with your money, but what was that first, like, I'm here now, I'm about to make that big boy purchase? First thing, draft process was crazy. It was just, like, I'm already in L.A. Most of the women go to my school that hang with all the NBA players. So I'm already really acclimated to, like, the process. But that whole draft process was so special because I got to see so many young men who never really had money really coming to having money and it was

a beautiful time seeing terrence williams so many different guys so many different guys in that drag class james hardens or everybody just starting to move and be their own person before they was that person and you like you're just seeing like all right we starting to get to this bread now you see all right it's a big game now you see grown women coming at you you see Cruz you see everybody just starting to form and that's the process that I wish I was a little bit more prepared for because I blew a lot of bread just having too much fun. Just not knowing what to expect. Buying chains, just trying to fit the image. You're trying to keep up the Joneses.

It was a great time. Back then, there was no Instagram, too. Man, I'm telling you, it was tricky. Huh? It was tricky. Hey, man. We was filthy. Tricky, too.

We was filthy. was filthy We was filthy Listen we was You ain't gotta die You ain't gotta die Yo we was I'm just saying Financial literacy Every night it was

We was filthy Ties were covered Ties got right Listen I still remember I still remember I still remember Our rookie pitchers Bro in New York Damn That shit was

I was like damn I still remember Our shorts was big as shit That's crazy Still remember that day I remember seeing them Like damn We in the league

Him and James They had the Bush jerseys And shit I was like damn That's hard My jerseys and shit. I was like, damn. That's hard. My jerseys was weak as shit. Damn. That Hawks jersey, it blew.

It was weak. They had the, you know, Jordan wore the Bulls. He's like, you know, we from that Midwest. I'm seeing them in they Bulls jerseys. I'm like, damn, that's hard. That's funny. I got to ask both of y'all this. Both of y'all know something.

Played for a couple teams. What was y'all favorite jerseys? My favorite jersey team, mine was the Timber couple teams. What was your favorite jerseys? My favorite jersey team, mine was the Timberwolves. We had some hard jerseys. Mm-hmm. That jersey was hard. Them lime green ones.

Yeah. The Prince joints was hard. The Prince joints was crazy. The gray ones was tough. I still got this. Yeah. It was between probably Chicago and I would say New York.

Oh, yeah. Them iconic jerseys. I just grew up watching those teams. Pretty tough. What about you? Me? Shit. Probably I want some real shit when he was with the Hawks.

I remember I seen my big bro Terrell. He had that motherfucking Hawks jacket. Them jerseys that match, I'm like, yeah. The bird. Oh, yeah, the Mookie Blacklock joints? Yeah, them were special. Yeah, them jerseys. I see you got the flyers.

I'm smart. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, still to me to this day, them are the flyers jerseys. It's still that penny jersey, the striped Orlando joints. Oh, yeah, them flyers. Them are still like, and the Flojo. I mean, from that, I got a hold of The Flojo Pacers jersey Is crazy

But that That black pinstripe Orlando jersey Especially back in the day When niggas had the Starter joints Them was just different bro My favorite jersey

Of all time Is the Lamar Odom Which one? The Clippers jersey That's when he was Really Lamar Odom The one off the court That's the one

He like He like the He like the The real hoops You and Lamar In the Hummer In the Black Forces Shout out to L.O. Shout out to the Buddy Branch man He's like, he likes the real hoop sessions. You and Lamar and the Hummer and the Black Forces? Shout out to L.O. Shout out to the Buddy Branch, man.

We can run that two-man. That's a hell of a pick, bro. That two-man is nuts, bro. No assists. We got to fast forward a little bit, man. You talk about this season. Man, it was crazy to see you playing this year. And you know what I'm saying? Where you was at minutes when you get in the game you get in the game how was that man for you saying you having it like i don't know if i'm gonna do it this year to

you playing 30 minutes that that blew my mind in a way because when i got that phone call first of all i seen the player get hurt. And I'm like, I know this fool ain't going to call me. I go to sleep. I wake up. It's 2, it's 3 a.m. They're like, yo, you got no, yo, you in shape? Tips. But it's like a, yo, you in shape?

Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in shape. Can you be ready tomorrow? this is moving quick like oh i'm like all right grace period cool but you're gonna be gonna work you in you good pause you're gonna come in just take your time and be gonna just work you in and get you in the swing of things with the team i'm like like, all right, no problem. Makes me know I'm on the court. That's Tibbs, bro. I'm on the court. He don't care. He's like, stay out there.

I'm just like, yo. But you got three young, fresh body guys ready to go. Keep your ass out there, Taj. Don't fuck up your what's-it. One thing about Tibbs. I'm going to tell you one thing about Tibbs. He love Taj. He like me a lot.

I'm about to say he look. He like me a lot. I love you. I love you. I loveaj they tibs taj straight oh for sure for sure like taj wanna go work for new york if hoop Like whatever Him and D-Rose Tibbs love me too Cause I remember I told him Tibbs called me To go play for New York

When I chose Boston He was like What are you doing? I said What are you doing? We gonna be here For five more years We gonna be in this system

Hey work this Work this system What are you doing? What's gonna be When I see him I say what the fuck was i doing i should have went to new york i had a cup of coffee in boston i had a cup bro he said what are you doing you know we gonna be here i was like you right

damn and a lot of people understand in minnesota our first year like people people underestimate jeff really was going through a lot of injury like i'm trying to tell you like he could never really fully like just rest that's how much we needed him like a lot of stuff contribute like i'm telling you like without jeff we wouldn't have got we wouldn't have made the playoffs bro Jimmy went down Once everybody Started going haywire That's what made Tibbs Really like

Nah He different He different That's what I'm talking about Appreciate it He different Yeah Appreciate it

And that team Like you said If Jimmy don't get hurt Obviously I still had a good season But if Jimmy don't get hurt It's a totally Cause y'all was going crazy That year

He was a three seed Yeah I texted that nigga Before the season I said nah bro You on one of them teams now Nah when I seen When he told me

Taj was coming I'm like Oh shit We got a squad I was just like It was He like We gonna get Taj too

I said damn Y'all was hard bro Shout out to Jimmy man Jimmy made that call to me He's like yo Where you at I was like I don't know

I think I might go back To OKC They give me some He's like, yo, where you at? I was like, I don't know. I think I might go back to OKC. They gave me some. He's like, what you doing? You got no. Yo, come. We got some bread. Yo, come. I'm going to make some tips and I'm going to call you.

I was like, yo, whatever. Jimmy my brother for life. Real one. Jimmy. Real one. I fuck with Jimbo, bro. Yeah. Jimbo, Ty, Jimmy, Jamal, they made my first year in fucking Minnesota.

Unbelievable. Now, my second year. Oh, yeah. That's when she got spooky. It was crazy. Luke was there our second year. Lukey. John was there the whole time.

Oh, no. John was there. Y'all had a hell of a locker room. Lukey was there the whole time. John's the freaky Luke. The real Somalian. John was there y'all had a hell of a locker room look he was in the hotel shout out to Freaky Luke the real Somalian John was there and our team we had a really good team

yeah but I mean everybody want to get paid you know how it go everybody want to get paid that's all it really came down to everybody just wanted to get paid

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because he would be a pivotal part of them winning that super bowl i don't know why colleen catch the podcast the nfl daily with greg rosenthal every day subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends and who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Taj, what I knew he was like, everybody loves Taj. If you play on his team,

he's the most loved in the locker room. He get along with everybody, one through 15. So we had a meeting one time, and I ain't gonna talk about what happened in the meeting, but he was like, all I could remember,

you know, I think everything's funny. He was like, we not doing that, funny He was like We not doing that yo Son We not doing that Then New York came out No son We not doing that

And all I could hear D-Ro saying in the back like Yo fam Chill fam Yeah he He saying No son No

No son We not doing that No Stand the fuck up Stand the fuck up I said yo son no no so we're not doing that no i ain't gonna tell what happened but it was so funny bro them two talking and they never talk like taji laughs joey but when they serious like you listen him and d rose was both like nah fam he like no son i was crying I'm rolling on the ground laughing making it worse no big

not caring Jimmy Jimmy mad I was like ah this shit's crazy I knew it was over very y'all locker room

was fucked up bro it was messed up at that time but yeah y'all really y'all really had a fire ass team man nah

it was a fun team, though. It was fun. It was. What you think went wrong, Tosh? You can speak on that. Hey, man. Nah, as far as the lineup, as far as guys getting money, everybody was, young guys got paid first.

Yeah. They was trying to give Jimmy some bread, but it wasn't enough money it wasn't that kind of money jimmy was basically like yo show me like i'm the alpha show me i'm the guy and respectively he was he was the guy that was taking all the big shots setting guys up yeah but not only that he was chest out and dudes too yeah yo if you do that again i'm beating you up i mama. I'm like, oh Yes, what you want I just was Chicago with you Jimmy you ain't yeah, but then

Who Eric um, I that's when when that didn't happen. I said, oh man, but I thought it was it could still be men but As a year went on that's when the guy didn't that that round that time when Jimmy was like I'm ready to go I'm like, oh man, come on Jimmy.my we bought this come on man we got something good for a couple years i'm trying to re-up yeah like if you pay attention to the game like you pay attention like who like my guys be looking out for god like yo come on we got you bro so when i seen i'm like well yeah we got one like facts coach got the whole joint we got win a few games all right we you know jimmy like i'm out of here i don't want i don't want to talk to you you you who me i know i know he wanted to swing out Come in It was just It was crazy bro I'm just happy

It worked out for him though Cause at the end of the day We all family Everybody You know what I mean Yeah I'm glad y'all still got Short relationships though

Nah Jimmy That's dope Jimmy that's my guy Yeah We was I'm in the meetings bro It's me bro Now I tell y'all

Y'all know how we do meetings Imagine me trying to convince Somebody to stay somewhere Like Jimmy Come on bro He like T you don't even give a fuck Yup I'm like I do I do Imagine me trying to convince somebody to stay somewhere. Like, come on, bro. He like, T, you don't even give a fuck. I'm like, I do. I do.

Like, where you going? He like, I want to leave. You going to take me what you want to do? I'm out of here. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm like, yo, that's funny as hell.

I wanted to ask you, bro. When you got drafted, like he said, being from Brooklyn, like everybody want to play in New York. You got drafted in Chicago. You play in Minnesota. You go to OKC. You play in Minnesota. Then you get a chance to go back home to New York.

Like, what's that like playing for the Knicks, bro? You wake up angry every day. I didn't expect that. It's time. No, I mean, in a way, like, it's amazing. But as far as your temperament and being like every day you're waking up. Like in Minnesota, you're not going to see anybody. You're going to wake up.

You're going to just go in your car. It's freezing cold. You're not going to see anybody. You're going to go straight into the gym and just see your teammates go home you ain't gonna see nobody new york man my first day my first year there i'm in the elevator every morning i'm running into somebody every morning like what what the hell happened go to the truck you go get a bodega go to the bodega across the street get a sandwich garbage truck guys there 5 a.m 6 a.m they like yo what happened yo then you got people on the street regular y'all suck i hate you every

day but literally every day damn good bad ain't no nah you gotta wake up like no every day i was waking up like when we won i couldn't be like let's go i had to be like i had to look at him like i had to look at i had to look at the family don't say nothing to me nigga where'd you live man i was living man elevators don't get me started my elevator was stopped literally 20 stops before we got to the but that's home so I'm used to it so I'm like every person

like good or bad gonna say something so you gotta have some tough skin some days you didn't wanna deal with that shit

I was trying to describe to people like how it is playing in the garden like I know not playing for the Knicks but when you go there like you wanna have

the best game of your life like the fans the arena the environment like everybody fresh on the court sides girls When you go there Like you want to have The best game of your life Like The fans The arena The environment Like everybody fresh On the court side

It's girls It's everything you want And you try to have Your best game And I can imagine Playing for the Knicks Like Y'all get everybody

Best game Yeah Yeah What's the best performance You've seen Good question bro Great question Hmm

The garden Yeah Hmm What's the best performance you've seen? Good question, bro. Great question. At the Garden? Yeah. There's been so many. Especially that fourth quarter. It get crazy. That's a tough question. There's so many guys.

You've seen Steph go crazy? I seen Steph break the record on our court. Okay. Break the all-time record. And what's crazy is he was supposed to break that record in Indianapolis, but he didn't play that game. And he purposely broke that in the garden. Man, listen, I seen that man coming in, hit that one shot, Man, listen, I seen that man coming in.

Hit that one shot. And just, like, the garden, one thing about the garden is, like, it's different. Like, they show you love if you real, if you nice. Like, some cities, they don't care. But the garden, they're going to show you your love. They gave them his grace. That was one person. Who else? You seen Brown go crazy. Atlanta. that was one person who who else you seen

Brown go crazy Atlanta Trey Young Trey Young came gave us the business oh yeah they made me fall so I was like

he made you fall yeah I had to give him his props like yo you trying to cross over Tibbs was like yo

we sending a double team to help Tarj like, yo, we sending a double team to help Tarj. I said, no, don't send a double team. Playing crazy. That's Tarj. Cook me.

Cook me. Then I looked at him like, where's my double team? You want to be a tough guy, huh? Yeah, Tarj,

what made you thought you could guard Trey and he hit you with the okie dokie? Hey man, that crowd that have you Thought you could guard Trey And hit you with that okie-dokie Hey, man, that crowd That crowd that have you feeling Yeah, yeah, yeah And you fool

I ain't gonna lie Taj was one of the best defenders ever Yeah, for sure You remember when we played Denver that year And Jokic was going The last game to go to the playoffs The players were Yo, Jokic was going crazy. The last game to go to the playoffs. The players were, yo. Yo, Jokic was going crazy.

That nigga Tip said, Taj, you got him. I said, damn, Taj. It's me and you with a pick and roll killer. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm like. Shit. No help. No help.

I'm like. Jamal Burns. Yeah, I was like, killer. No help. We help. I'm like, Jamal Burns. I was like, kill him. No help. We got to switch. I was like, you got to get back. They thought it too. I'm like, I can't.

I was like, Jimmy. Come call Jamal. I need to go out and get your hair. I was like, hey, I'm my father. I was like, bro, that's picking real crazy, bro. Damn, that's funny. To see Taj take that challenge, bro. We get that win, bro. I was like, hey, I'm my father. Like, bro, that's picking real crazy, bro. Damn, that's funny. To see Taj take that challenge, bro, we get that win, bro. I was like, yeah, he.

Man, the thing that people don't understand, we caught them while they was still on the verge of being like pups. Yeah. And that next year, man, I could, it was nothing I could do. I'm just, I'm just standing here. But players like that, like, I can honestly just say I'm just thankful to. But players like that, I can honestly just say I'm just thankful

that I honestly get a chance to not seriously get to stop him because that next year, he was a whole different animal. Guys like him, I call guys like him alligators. Tall, big paws,

and they know how to move. And then the first move they got, that spin. Him, DeMarcus Cousins, like certain guys, when they spin, them shoulders hit you, you can't stop them. You're out of the play. That's why I wanted to ask you, who was the hell of a defender? Who was the toughest, your toughest matchup?

Depends on whatever. Oh, damn. KG Biggs, the Dirt Biggs. The beginning of your career. Like when you started getting plans. Dirt, KG. I'm somebody bigs the beginning mix the beginning of your career the case you start getting dirt plants on dirt kg that's back when it was more like false physicality you had to be like at least 240 enough power for big Carlos bulls of Josh Smith it was always but back then it was this unpredictable because

you had different lineups like God it was so many forwards like Josh Smith dirt KG You got stat It's ego West you still got on the arm You still got pal you got a locum off the bench. Everybody was at least 240 enough Yeah, then now this era is just like You got a few bigs, but it's like the top three bigs i can

say like four bigs off the off top of my dome and be he pick and choose when he want to destroy you he can just really just kill you instantly but he's just like a finessa till you get him mad but if you play it psychology like he all midi joker he's just like i'm what i'm sunning you and i'm destroying you and i'm letting you know like nah you know i'm my love he different it's crazy and i at one point i was like cat is different yeah yeah i tell him in practice cat it's cat he's like he's different like i don't speak how i don't care all the time for sure Cal all the time, for sure. He crazy. But people keep sliding. I ain't going to never slide on DeMarcus Cousins. No.

I'm trying to tell you. That's his favorite player. That's my favorite. That's my man. Favorite big pause. He like, if bro wouldn't have got hurt and they wouldn't have played with him like that in the NBA, I wish he would have signed that contract and no one else. But he was a dog, bro.

That's 23 and 12. Easy. Alligator. Because when I say alligator, I'm saying he leased over 250. Yes. He got moves, and you can't stop that spin. When an alligator grabs you, he's doing that spin. Yeah.

Then I'm taking you underneath. It's over. That's what he's doing. It's right away. I remember one time we played them in New Orleans. They had Anthony Davis, and they had Cubs, right? So before the game, we about to play. Tibbs like, you got AD to Taj.

Taj, you got Cubs. Man, fuck what you like. So, he said, Cubs. He was like, the first person to get one foul, switch. Cubs get the ball, first play. Cubs just grab him. Cat just grabbing. Touch. Switch, Tasha.

Yo, what the hell? You ain't even try to go at him. You ain't even try to go at him. I said, yo, damn. I'm like, damn, Cat, you ain't gonna try. He was like, no, no, he had me. I'm like, nah, he ain't gonna fuck with him. You seen that meme of him hulsing up at DeMarcus Cousins? I said, yeah, him and cuz. Tasha had to go. Tasha had to go. Everybody. I'm like, no, no, he had me. I'm like, nah, he ain't gonna fuck with him. You seen that meme of him hulsing up at DeMarcus Cousins?

Yeah, him and Cousins. Then Todd had to go to everybody. I'm like, yeah. Todd, switch the picker up. There's something with them, those UK guys. They be having some little in a beef. I was like, damn. Right when I switched on Cousins, I'm like, he go to AD.

AD's like, yo, give me the ball. Give me the ball. What the hell? I'm like he go to AD AD yo give me the ball give me the ball what the hell I'm like yo what's they problem I swear give me the ball give me the ball

I'm like oh yeah they got beef that's crazy and no we asked about the you know what I'm saying the performances on the guard

you got to see a lot of good ones this year close and personal JB went crazy this year how was that to see like the energy like back in New York like obviously they was good ones this year, close and personal. JB went crazy this year. How was that to see, like, the energy, like, back in New York? Like, obviously, they was decent, but this year to have a season to have

and to see him kill the way he killed, like, that energy back in the city. I mean, even though we went out on this year, we still beat him. But it was just dope to see. How was that being on the team? I get to your team. That's my boys over there, too. Taj, fuck them. Yeah, you got it. Because JJ, that's my brother over there, too. Oh, Todd's fucked him. Yeah, he got him.

Because J.J., that's my brother, man. Yes, sir. He can call me any time, any place I'm running. I'm not packing no bag. I'm just pulling up. That's how deep it is.

But as far as that, J.B., like, J.B. really came up under us. Like, when you look, when you really dig deep into the Tibbs thing, like, guys really got real relationships. And, like, once you break that me, you really dig deep into the Tibbs thing. Like, God's really got real relationships.

And, like, once you break that bond, it's over. He's going to make sure you're good. But JB, like, he's just a good kid. I don't want to say kid because I knew him his whole life, but I'm going to say great God, man. Like, you want to celebrate guys like that because he, oh, like, I'm with them for that few months and i'm just watching them like i'm used to him being uh the younger kid like being right now i'm around

him as an adult now i'm the older guy in the crew now i'm hanging out we are we are going where we going like and i'm seeing how they move and i'm just like yo i want my son to be like him for real. That's hard. That's how important. That's a huge compliment right there. Hell yeah. And like – He's special. And to see him play and kill and to see his reporter he has,

everybody's like, you can't do nothing but support. You can't do nothing but celebrate it. Because he went crazy this year. Y'all lucky JR wasn't there, bro. Get well soon, King. Because Julius Rundle was there, y'all was getting sweat, bro. Man, that's's that's one thing about that nick team like i was like when i got there like we we sucked so bad like people like

we was terrible bro like we we just didn't have it in order we had rj we had it we we just the city was just on us as far as like just kicking us down and they don't understand the level of like how we really guys built that up and julius was the main thing to get that joint going he needed to get a lot more praise than what he got but everybody love you got to be a crazy mother lover to go to the next because you got to be built different. That city is tough. That city is tough. And you just got to be molded in it. That's one thing about it. It's tough to play.

But once you get through those wolves and eyes and really figure it out, it's one of the best places to play, man. I ain't going to hold you. So I know, though. I know we got to get up out of here, though. What's the dirtiest place in New York City? What's the dirtiest city? Damn.

The dirtiest city? Don't do that. What you the dirtiest place in New York City? What's the dirtiest city? Damn. The dirtiest city? Don't do that. What you think? Shit. You from there. I want to hear you two say it. I want to hear you two say it. All right. Manhattan. Manhattan? You think so? Manhattan?

I'm not going to let you do the Bronx like that. The Bronx. Some of the dirtiest places got the best food. It do. When I say the Bronx, I say that I'll say maybe you could say maybe

the Bronx, but the Bronx is the old school real New York. If you think about it like Brooklyn has changed, Manhattan has changed. That's where Peter

Grimes is from. Legend. I fuck with a legend. I fuck with Washington Heights oh man we can keep the hoops

good food over there man good food great food vibes good vibes that's the pro-am the summer hoop session

I'm stupid man we can let's move forward. Oh, man. All right, we got to get up out of here before we go, man. Ty, we were at your slide, man. What you got going on next year? I know you've been doing some contemplation, but we're going to see you on the court next year, man.

God willing, we'll see, man. Right now, I'm just at Top 100 Camp, learning how to coach these kids. Just letting God lead me. And just trying to have as much fun as I can. We can't take this for granted. Every day I wake up, man, I'm just trying to just smile, man, because I did not think I was going to be here.

So if I get the call, I'm calling y'all for sure. For sure. My dog, for sure. Listen, man, we're going to have to do this again, man. Had too much fun, man. We're going to get up out of here, be here, tell the people they can grab some merch at. ShopClub520.com.com baby for your latest merch wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast nfl daily with greg rosenthal five days a week you'll get

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