Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Joe Budden on Kendrick Lamar at Super Bowl, Drake vs. Michael Jackson, Knicks prediction

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

We’re back with Season 2, Episode 101 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Joe Budden to discuss the biggest topics in music, basketball, and podcasting. Joe talks about his lov...e for the New York Knicks, and how he thinks that Jalen Brunson and the Knicks have a shot at winning an NBA Finals. The guys debate Drake vs. Michael Jackson, whether Kendrick Lamar or Lil Wayne should be performing at the Super Bowl Halftime show, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 my man's last but to my far left, we got my dog, Bishop E. Hitting out the prior lease, how you doing, nasty? Cool and nasty, let's get to it, baby. Hey, I know you fresh off the flight, you know what I'm saying, we let one episode slide through when we got guests in town, man, you gotta be in uniform.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Joe, have you ever seen the Black Forces with the white laces up in New York, man? No, I have not. Them chisels on the floor, right? Yeah, you see the throne right there? That's the work show. That's the work show. What's your prayer, though?
Starting point is 00:03:11 What you about a 12? Nah, 11. 11, I got you, bro. You're about 10 and a half in the Air Force, bro. I got you. They gonna think I'm trying to rob somebody. Nah, we're not. With the white laces, you come in peace, though.
Starting point is 00:03:20 You know what I'm saying? You might rob the spot. This is how you feel that day. That's funny. You save, you know what I'm saying? You might rob this spot. Just how you feel that day. That's funny. You save, you good. Thanks, bitch. Yeah. Fry to my right, my dawg.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Young Nacho, young T, how you doing, man? Chillin', bro. Excited about this episode, bro. Let's have a good time. I'm excited, too. I'm happy to be here. Absolutely, man. I'm happy to be here.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And we gotta talk about, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Your DM on to the Patreon. We're gonna have to grab some money. I'm happy to be here. Absolutely man. If we gotta talk about, you know what I'm saying, you know what I'm saying, your DM on to the Patreon. We gonna have to bring that up. I don't want no smoke, bro. Royce, I don't want no smoke. I just thought it was funny. I wanna start off with, how do you really feel about-
Starting point is 00:03:58 We're introducing our wonderful guest to my left, you know what I'm saying? If you love music, you know who this man is. And if you got, you know what I'm saying, look, n music, you know who this man is. And if you got, you know what I'm saying? Look, niggas get the new jacket on. I feel respect, respect, kid. But listen, man, if you know music, you know this man. And if you have YouTube or anything that plays podcasts,
Starting point is 00:04:15 you know who this man is, a legend. We got the great Joe Button in the building. Podfather, how you what, man? Peace, peace, peace, peace. Thank you for coming, Joe. Feeling good, man. Hey, I'm happy you came to that, peace. Thank you for coming, Joe. Feeling good, man. Hey, I'm happy you came to NAP, man. We gotta tell you, man, I know Isaiah,
Starting point is 00:04:28 they showed you straight to Indian animal stuff. Them niggas are not from Indianapolis. You are in Indianapolis, Indiana. NAP time, you in a great place. The Indian animals do not reside here. We wanna tell the world, them niggas from up north, 219, claim y'all people, Gary, Indiana. This is Mike Jackson people.
Starting point is 00:04:42 You in NAP, you in a great place. Well, I've been treated well since I've been here. I ain't been outside too much. A lot of meth heads. Hold on, Joe. Wait, wait, nigga, where you staying at? Hold on, man. I'm not gonna say it on air, but.
Starting point is 00:05:01 No, I'm saying area. Oh, you downtown? Did you go to that White Castle? No. Oh yeah, that's the headquarters. You talking about meth hands. My man tried to go to CVS, he forgot something. They was like, no, don't go over there.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't go there. Now they all love you. Don't go there. Hotel saves them now, you don't wanna go over there. We'll just Uber East and poop. Yeah, don't go. The CVS order.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The sick niggas don't even get their medicine, that's CVS. They just keep pushing. Yeah, I don't even get their medicine, that's CVS, they just know, so they keep pushing. Yeah, I don't spend a lot of time in these red states, so it's always like a culture shock when I come out. It's always funny, because I tell people, if you come to Indiana, there's a couple different places in Indiana that's like some nigga shit.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Like here, Fort Wayne, 219, the region, that's black. Everything else in Indiana, white. You see some black people in Indianapolis. You drive 30, 40 minutes southeast or north, you will not. The white people out here still like, they look shocked. Oh shit, one of y'all. White people out here, they don't like that shit at all. No, they own that.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, no, I can see. Don't get out of Uber black. Whoa, wait a minute. What's he gonna play for? Nigga, I can see don't get out of over black. Whoa, wait a minute. What's he gonna play for? I have a job We'll be here mama you had a question for Joe. Yeah, man, I know you had brought us up on the pod Oh, yo shit. We appreciate the love I just wanted to know how you really felt about his take with the Michael Jackson and Drake I'm just saying we got Joe here Joe was you know, I mean
Starting point is 00:06:27 He said Drake sing better than the other. I said they sound, they similar. He went for it. He went for it that day. I said they were similar artists. And what I appreciate is that in Childs to the Pod, showing love, y'all always showed love for us. We appreciate that so much. We big fans of the show.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And you was just like, wait, I thought y'all was really trying to like go viral off that until his man said that we really wasn't. No, that was him. Oh yeah, when I said like, this ain't for no script type shit, I meant that for real. We had no clue that take was coming. First of all, let me explain myself.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I ain't lying, he spoke about me when the drink shit came up before. No, you might be drinked out. Yeah. No, no, let's talk about it. You might be Drake'd out. I'm not a Drake fan. I'm not a Drake fan.
Starting point is 00:07:09 I'm not a super Drake fan. I'm not a super Drake fan. Callie, please. I fuck with Drake. Go ahead, Woody. This is now Woody. That nigga said, he sat down and was like, no, certain people can't talk to Drake.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Yo! Oh shit. I forgot about him. I forgot about him. Why not? Why to Drake. Oh shit. Wait, wait, why not? Why not? Why not? We're here Joe, so that's why you're here. No that's not why, I love y'all.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It just so happens. Let's start with the first part. I said they about equal, before Mike went white. I said when he was black, he could sing better than Drake. I was like, when he got older, shit wasn't sounding that good. Cool and Dre, that nigga was ready to fire on me. Fuck him. He's dumb as fuck. I was like, damn, nigga, I was just, my fuck. But cool. I fucked up. You took the music world by storm with that one.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Yeah, I fucked up. My bad. I watched that shit and was like, they cooking, they cooking. This shit sounds stupid as hell, but it's gonna work. The reason it started was because he was ice off. The reason it started was because they was the two biggest artists, bro. That's all I was saying. Oh man, they was the two biggest artists.
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's all I was saying. He said that piece. Moonwalk out of that one. All right, I'ma leave that alone because I don't even feel like doing that shit. I don't know what to think. If you say like a wild take and then you let it die down like a couple months, it come back up, the whirlwind starts back up.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Or you did say that shit. It's him, bro, it's him. I just wanted to know how my nigga felt about it. You feel me? Who was the second part though? What I said, people can't speak on Drake. Yeah, right. They can't.
Starting point is 00:08:47 Now they can, because they can't. Oh, oh. Zeta bar boy. Shot to the trenches. Dio Mese slid through, Tim slid through. But speaking of Drake and Kendrick, Kendrick doing a Super Bowl. How you feel about that?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Oh. Yes. How you feel about that? Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Uh. Yo.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Hey, this a petty pie game, if you ain't noticed. But this is what I fuck with, y'all. Hey, yo. Yo. Look out here, drop the topic. This your dude, Cunamal. How you feel about that? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. Oh, man. Oh, shit. What up, Joe? I was at the, I ain't even have time to really process it really because I was at the game. It's good as fuck. What?
Starting point is 00:09:31 Nah, nah, nah. I was at the game earlier. Okay. So the internet was all doing the internet thing. I was at the game, so I ain't really, it's not shocking. It's not shocking that he doing it. They trying to eat and drink, it. It ain't a surprise. Who would you prefer if you was the one giving the,
Starting point is 00:09:49 you know what I mean, the order? Who would you have performing in the organs? That's a trap. Kendrick. Whoever's in charge of booking the talent at that level, I'm sure they have their reasons for it. We're gonna get this thing, don't worry about it. That's way above my pay grade.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So I'm certain there's a reason that they went with Kendrick, but yeah, man. You don't think Lil Wayne should've been part of it? No. No. I'm gonna get you back. I'm gonna get you back. Revenge five.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Ah, nigga. Who's the city that won't be? Look, I'm gonna get him back. I'm gonna get him back. I'm gonna get him. Revenge five. Ah, nigga. Who's to say that it won't be? Oh, that'd be crazy. Who's to say that it won't be? That's gonna be crazy. It has to happen. I know when they did Essence Fest out there,
Starting point is 00:10:36 it was supposed to be the Hot Boy reunion. And that didn't pan out. But they got it for Weezy Fest, I believe. Oh, OK. I believe they do it at the set on Weezy Fest. Right. I think anytime Wayne is performing in New Orleans, it's an event.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Yeah. I don't know if the football people ever cared about people performing in their hometown. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen that. Yeah. That's an interesting statement. That was a good take.
Starting point is 00:10:59 No, no, no, that's a good fact. It's time to talk to you. Y'all from here, make a move. And there's gonna be more people from out of town than New Orleans who attend that event. For sure. Yeah. For sure. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:11:08 They not gonna mark the ticket prices in a way that the New Orleans people could come and support. Actually, they gonna mark them up so you can't get in. Oh yeah, we know how that's set up. We just had All-Star here. That was not priced for people in Indianapolis to be in New Orleans for All-Star. Oh yeah, All-Star was out here.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I tried to tell my girl, that shit wasn't flying. But man, we all big fans of the pod, man. Well y'all, let's see how y'all felt about Kendrick doing the Super Bowl. Don't try to. N***, RIP don't matter. I can do it. They don't want my music.
Starting point is 00:11:36 They don't want my music. They cannot make any more music takes into what your pod. I don't want no music takes, he's done. I'm not mad. No, but I'm not mad at Kendrick doing it. I just feel like, for real, and like you said, people from the city probably don't give a fuck,
Starting point is 00:11:47 but I just think Lil Wayne deserves that eventually in our lifetime. We grew up, you a little bit older than us, but we grew up on Wayne, so it'll be cool for us to see Lil Wayne grace the stage for one time. Like, for the Super Bowl, bro. That's all. I can't wait to go on my part.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm gonna talk so much shit about this topic. I can't give it to y'all. No, no, no, no. So I'm letting people hear it'd be great to see Wayne. Yeah, it's true. That's beast. I know, they have some shit, what they have on Twitter saying that Wayne,
Starting point is 00:12:16 he didn't have 15 minutes worth of hits. That's one that I didn't like. That's cap. When niggas saying that Wayne couldn't do a Super Bowl, I said, y'all very fucking disrespectful. He can do all features and it would be crazy if he felt like it. Yeah, and that's what I was saying.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Like, don't go to the music side of it. It's more business behind the Super Bowl stuff that any of you ever know for sure. He could do a set for sure. I just not get crazy. It's not gonna carry the weight for sure. Man, we gotta talk about it, man. Obviously, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:12:42 We big fans of the pie to see y'all progression, you know what I'm saying saying to where you at now What's one thing you would say to yourself? Maybe a couple years back that you didn't expect to encounter with this business venture in a way things to change it Cuz you're a pioneer when it comes to this particular industry A lot of people don't know some of the stuff that you'd be talking about and I could say a year in we all had firsthand Have understood some of your grapes and understandings about situations. What's the things you may didn't think you learned but you like I'm better for now Maybe some I didn't think I would learn
Starting point is 00:13:11 Podcast break up friendships and happy homes. I never really paid that one too much mine. Uh What else again back to the What else? Again, back to the And then overt racism and podcast redlining the redlining of podcasts I mean in that topic is coming up a lot now because you're seeing all the white people get like on it 200 million Yeah, so the Chelsea family. Yeah block black black podcast is mad. But uh, yeah, I would say that redlining and podcasts and Podcasts breaking up happy homes and friendships. Yeah, yeah would say that. Redlining and podcasts and podcasts breaking up happy homes and friendships. Yeah, it's tough out there.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Very interesting. And it's funny you said it because you're a big sportsman, obviously. So like the way, how do you, from a consumer standpoint, what you do to see the sports podcast now become more- Yeah, y'all fucked the game up. Sports niggas came in, I hate y'all.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I hate the sports niggas. And I'm being facetious, of course. I love every single one of the sports podcasts that are rocking, but I just feel like the sports dudes had a cheat code. Like the sports dudes will get to sit down and, hey, let me tell you what happened after game five that you don't know about.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I was like, all right, nigga, I'm glued to this. That's cheating. Hey, man, let me tell you what I'm talking to Tim Duncan. I can free throw lies like, you motherfuckers. It's cheating, but it works. It works. I'm happy for all you niggas. But y'all got similar styles on rap though. Like we wanna know the behind the scenes stories
Starting point is 00:14:41 about like if you had beef with somebody or this battle, this rap battle or whatever. It's different because in sports, there is tangible shit to look at. In rap, everybody thinks we Michael Jackson. So everybody is sensitive. Everybody has an overblown sense of self. So you can't really say too much.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And then it's clicked up. and then it's clicked up. And then it's clicked up. You say something about one nigga, he tied to the five niggas you might need to speak to. It is a mess versus sports where we watching the game. Let me just tell you something that happened in the game. It's just the game. It's no emotions.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Unless you want some fucking Shaq to Rudy Gobert type shit. You're just going crazy with it. And he hates him. He hates him. He hates him. I want Shaq to, Shaq is a big Jersey. Shaq is a big Jer, I don't, I liked what Rudy said to him the other day.
Starting point is 00:15:38 I did. Yo dog, I know what you're doing. I'm just baffled because I don't feel like you have to do that. Like, and if I never saw Shaq with Dwight Howard, then maybe I feel different. But Shaq is too, he too the man to be just every chance he gets shitting on when he's there.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Shaq playing it off the money though. That's his only gripe with the shit like, why you getting paid 200 million and you ain't putting up half the numbers that I did. But see that's hate though. That's hate. No it is, but I'm just saying like that's all. That's just like, even him.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But it's all it's about, it's the money. Like him with the Matt Christie shit, he obviously wasn't hating it again, he was being stupid. But just a comparison bro, the game grows and evolves. What do you want it to do? You want everybody to make the same money you made forever? Like that means yo sacrifice wit for no reason because nobody gained from it.
Starting point is 00:16:27 And everybody know the game though, shit. You get drafted at the right time, you get paid at the right time, that's how it go. Shaq just the old head though. He just the old head like. But he, it's funny cause he texted but you don't gotta know that though. Yeah, you Shaq nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Like you still make way more money than Rudy Gobert. Nah, yeah, that's what I don't think he, he's not fucked up, he ain't a meth head as Joe was saying. He went to White Castle. But he's still good, he's just like, damn, there's other players that's better than him. He feels like, why the fuck does Rudy get this 225 or whatever he got paid over this player
Starting point is 00:17:04 and he's way better than this nigga Oh, why is why is Rudy go bird and Yoke is on the same pay grade? No, I get it Yeah, I understand but I'm good to say Like those doors just gotta live in your house. Yeah, tell your kids Like I wouldn't give a fuck I'm like good job Rudy man Yeah, but I'm saying Shaq probably just like, I don't know. Why did Shaq go in the booth
Starting point is 00:17:27 and diss Damien Lillard again? I don't even remember what that was about. Cause hold on, I got you Joe, cause he said, Dam Lillard basically was like, I'm the best rapper ever from the NBA. Well now that one I'm not mad at, this one then. Yeah, he did. He did though.
Starting point is 00:17:42 I mean, Shaq did go platinum, but he can't stop the rain bro. They ain't done got one of those. I know a lot of niggas went platinum. A lot of platinum but. He can't stop the rain bro. Dane don't got one of those. I know a lot of niggas went platinum. He do got one of those. A lot of niggas went platinum back in the day bro. That's an elite song. It was different times though.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. Still, cause they just released it on streaming. And it slaps. And it still slaps. Dane Willard can really rap though. He can. He don't got a biggie featured up. Shaq man.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Well clearly. He got Wayne. And Dane Lance album is hard. It is. It is. That is a lot. That's what I'm saying, broke can really flow, but I'm like Shaq, you kinda cheat code, bro. You was like the most popular motherfucker ever.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Bro, he made that song, he did make Steel. Yeah, like. Shaq rap with the Fuchsnickens. I know that don't mean nothing now, but back in 92, 93, that was a big fucking deal. Like to be able to keep up with those dudes, so. Yeah. I think Shaq just rapped cause he could.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Like, man, I always wanted to rap. Fuck it, I'ma go get Biggie. Bro, he rich, he there. That nigga was a cop. Yeah, but I'm saying, Dane Lillard really, I feel like got a passion for it. Not dissing Shaq, but I think Dane Lillard like understands the craft.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Shaq rap better than Kobe? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. You messy. I'm just asking. But you right better than Kobe? Yeah. Yeah. You messy, but you super messy as fuck. I really like- Kobe was rapping. I hope they never-
Starting point is 00:18:52 I hope they never- Nah, Kobe, Kobe, Ron Artest. Now, Ron Artest had to slap on 2K. Steve Francis, like, delete. Ron Artest, it didn't matter, cause wasn't nobody gonna say nothing to him anyway. He even did our part, we was in here like. He said pause, we thought he was about to break this door.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Nah, I see, cause I treat y'all like humans, bro. Like Ron, you out of pocket. He said he went up in a nigga ass, I'm like, Ron, we get you to beat the sleeves off a motherfucker, but we nothing. Chill out, bro. We doing too much. Gun tucks.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Oh, the gun is near. Nah, metal won't piece with you. Nah, he's in our party. Metal won't piece with you. That wasn't wrong. We told him, I said, bro, I don't know if we can help you with this situation. And these two niggas, let me tell you how.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Yeah, he prayed for them. My niggas don't really fuck with me. I say, Paul, these niggas silent. Usually they laughing. These niggas didn't say a word. I was like, all right, about 265 over here. I'm 205, my best dancing shit. I can't get to my car.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Park a lot of little bit of waves. I'm toning down. Can't get to my car, the other one is up. That's funny. Shout out to Metal World Peace. All the last names, I forgot them, but respect. Joe, we know you to the, that's funny. Shout out to Middle World Peace, all the last names, I forgot them, but respect. Joe, we know you a Knicks fan, man, what y'all gonna do?
Starting point is 00:20:10 I see y'all had a nice little off season. Danny Dimes, I know you ain't gonna talk about them, but I know you at least feel happy about your Knicks. Danny, fuck it. Danny Dimes, come on. You going viral for that draft pick is one of the funniest things of all time. That was nuts.
Starting point is 00:20:27 That was, that was kind of nuts. That clip still goes. Like every year I see it when somebody do something stupid. And rest in peace to dude, cause that's really who I was, Haskins? Oh yeah. Rest in peace to Haskins.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That's really why I was jumping up and down. Haskins is right there. But, you know. The Knicks though, we rocking. This is the first year I bought season tickets. Okay, okay. First year I did it. Enough is enough now, I'm convinced.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You locked in? I'm riding, I like it. I don't even think I've been alive to see us after the lockout final. I ain't even see us try to compete. We've never put a team on the floor to be like, all right, we doing it now. That's never happened since.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Oh, the Mellow team though. Stop it. Mellow J.R. now. Stop it, stop it. They won 50 something games. Stop it, I know they did. And we was one Roy Hibbard block away from maybe going to the Eastern Conference final,
Starting point is 00:21:29 but that was never gonna work. Actually, and which Mellow team you talking about? Which one? I'm talking about when Mike Wilson was the coach. Mike Wilson, when they had the vets, when they had Jason Kenz, Steve Wallace, Steve Novak and all of them? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, yeah. That team I thought could do something. That was a good team, bro. That team I thought could do something. That was a good team, bro. That team I thought could do something. Yeah, that was first team, Albert Harvey and home. But look what they, yeah. You stopped believing a long time ago. Huh?
Starting point is 00:21:52 You stopped believing a long time ago. In the Knicks, god damn, Joe. No, I'm a real Knick fan, so I've been there. Listen, I remember jumping up and down for the Derrick Harper trade. Like, I've just been there long enough. So I ain't about to give up on it. Hard work, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He said Derek Harper. And Dolan was never trying to, listen, New York could lose, lose, lose and be sold out. Yeah. Terry Jones. Yeah, exactly. So this year, I'm excited to see what's going on. I hope they pay Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:22:23 You think they need to keep Ju? Yes. My niggas, Joes Randall. You think they need to keep Ju? Yes. My niggas, Joe! Yeah, you think they don't? I don't think they need to keep him. Why? Yes! I just think y'all can get some type of value back from him
Starting point is 00:22:34 cause y'all play so much better. Y'all gonna play so much freer without him. He's a ball stopper. Ball stopper, you know what I'm saying? He do need it. And y'all don't want Jalen Brunson to revert back to like chilling and watching somebody play. Y'all need him to kill.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You saw what happened with Jalen Brunson to revert back to like chilling and watching somebody play. Y'all need him to kill. You saw what happened with Jalen Brunson without Julius though. You need somebody else. You about to tell me that's Bridget, but you need somebody else that's gonna put the ball on the floor and get you a bucket. Yeah, but you see. And what value you gonna get back for him?
Starting point is 00:22:59 That's a good question. That's a good question. Two time all NBA player. If you not, if you don't got a lot of value on the market, that should tell you something. No, no, it's cap. What? It's cap.
Starting point is 00:23:10 If you put your house on the market right now and it's a really nice house, you gonna put it on there for a certain amount, somebody's gonna come look at it, they can afford it. Yeah, I know. You go out there and you put a nice house on the market right now, that's worth five million, somebody come offer you 1.5, what's that saying?
Starting point is 00:23:23 That house really ain't that big. You trying to say he's not a nice house? You not saying that. I'm come off for you 1.5. What's that saying? I'm not saying he's not a good player 5 million off the house. I'm not saying he ain't a good player, but what he do a lot of people don't value He's a he brought right I ain't we 3 and 10 yeah, but the way he get it. Yeah. Like the way he get his 10. We have real basketball talks on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:23:49 It's a rough way to get 23. Yeah. When people get 23 a lot. Cause you getting your 23 and 10 and you in the way. And you stopping the team from falling. Me and him never agree on shit, bro. But this basketball shit. You see how much Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:24:03 flourished from soon as he was gone? Yeah. All of a sudden, he became a star. He the face of the New York damn near. See, I think that Brunson was gone flourished with him near. I think together they played well. I was real mad when Julius went down with that show.
Starting point is 00:24:16 I like Julius. We call him Ju. The real JR is what we call him. Yeah, I gotta stop saying that. JR Smith's the real JR. But respect. Nah. But I just don't think, I think the ball in JB hand
Starting point is 00:24:28 all the time like it was, that's what made the Knicks good. Even if y'all are right, which I don't think y'all are, Julius is my man, salute, love you, nigga, but it wouldn't be this season. Even if y'all are right, it wouldn't be this season. He got a loose play. You gotta see what that looks like. You gotta give it a chance.
Starting point is 00:24:45 But I'm just saying. Trade that line, Dougal. So who you played in? So you got Yaseen, Devin Chance, who come alive, right? Bench. Hell no. He gotta get benched. What are y'all talking?
Starting point is 00:24:55 This nigga's Michael Jordan on the Hornets. And he's coming off the bench. No. So who you starting in? Please. JB1. JB, you starting Josh Hart? Josh Hart has come off the bench.
Starting point is 00:25:06 If Julius is starting. Josh Hart coming off the bench too? He got to, bro. What team do y'all have? I don't know what y'all niggas is even talking about right now. So who you starting at? Starting at the same.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Bridges is starting at two. No. Oh, McHale Bridges at the two? Starting at the two. Starting at the two. Who at the three? Hell nah. OG?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Y'all mean you still got OG at the three? Julius at the three? Who at the three? Who at the three? Who at the three? OG? I mean, you still got OG? OG at the three? Julien at the four? OG, Jules, Mitch. That is the starting five. Hey, my patients, we good money. Don't even trip.
Starting point is 00:25:33 We good back. We good money. No, y'all are not. Y'all got a lot of cold role players, but when they get spooky. The patients are playing. You gotta be joking. I like, oh, Tyrese, we good money.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Don't even trip on me. He do stand up. Yeah, he do stand up. He joking. I like Tyrese, we good money, don't eat your money. He do stand up. Yeah, he do stand up. He joking. I like OG at the four, bro. Like at the three, he can play the three, bro. I like him. He can. I like Michael Bridges.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But you have to start leaving Chin's who, bro. Yeah, he's your best shooter. Bring your best shooting ass off the bench. Yeah. Shout out to these guys. White Dante. I love Yeah. I love him. I love him. Because what is Josh Hart at though?
Starting point is 00:26:09 On the bench. Back up. On the bench. Back up. Josh Hart, the heart and soul, bro. That's a fact, bro. He's playing 48 minutes a game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 For real. They try to take the tread off the top. They try to. Yeah. I always laugh at y'all's show when y'all be talking, you know what I'm saying, you have some of your calls, they go on vacation, y'all be talking about it on air. Hey, Tom Tivoli ain't going for none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:26:29 Nah, no vacation. You will get all your money's worth. Everybody's playing. Sure. One thing about playing for Tiv's, you gonna get paid, cause you gonna play enough. You gonna get some numbers. Shit.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Ain't no PTO. Listen, that last playoff game against the fucking Pacers, I looked at the bench, it was two niggas over there. And wasn't nobody even left. Yelling drain niggas. The guard dude, we stood up, hey! Started clapping, man. You gave it a run!
Starting point is 00:26:54 I hate that. Niggas close out on your home team. Yes, sir. You got to stand up and do the pride thing. Hey, red New York pride! Hell of a type. Fucking Pacers. Shout out to the Pacers. Oh, no, I don't do that'm tight. Fucking Pacers. Shout out to the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Aw, no, I don't do that now. The Pacers wasn't shit, too. I'm about to lie. My Hawks is on their way back. Where? Big Three? Oh, you still gassing up that Hawk stuff? Trey Young on his way back.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Don't worry about it. He trying to get the job. Trey Young trying to get the fucking, he trying to get out of there. Probably, but he there right now. He stuck. He gotta do what he gotta do. What's that draft pick? Y'all got the number one draft pick? I forgot his name. Don't nobody know. He got a rough out of there. Probably, but he there right now. So he gotta do what he gotta do. What's that draft pick?
Starting point is 00:27:25 What's, y'all got the number one draft pick? I forgot his name. Look. He got a rough name to say. Tower of the Z. Shut up. Shut up with him. Him and Alex R. might go down as one of the worst
Starting point is 00:27:35 one-two pick combos of all time. Nah, fuck no. Hell no. All right. Who went after this? Who went after this? I'm with you. That one was bad.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Ooh, Mike, please look that one up. That one was bad. Yeah. What look that up. That one was bad. Was that Ola Depot? No, Ola Depot didn't go too. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he did. It might have been Ola Depot. In that draft?
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah, Ola Depot went too. In that draft with Anthony Bennett? I don't know if it's that draft, but. I think Anthony Bennett. You mean in 2014? Yeah. Wait, no, wait, wait, wait. That's wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:04 No, who went to Anthony? No, no, no, Anthony Bennett's draft, I'm not, no, no, wait, wait, wait. No, no, that's wrong. No, who went to Anthony? No, no, Anthony, he finished Draft, I'm sorry. I don't think Ola Depot was in. I don't think it was in there either. Yeah, I think it was Ola Depot. You're right, I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that was that Draft. Ola Depot.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good call, DJ. I swear I didn't think, I thought bro was a year before that. D-Paw, I need more R&B music from you, let's go. Yeah, he is retired. He the greatest R&B NBA player. I think he's taking a, yeah, he had a statement,
Starting point is 00:28:29 he's taking a step back from basketball. He cleared a hundred. I think he's taking a step back, I mean. Bro cleared a hundred. And he went through a lot. Like you know something, like you can say it, to go with them type of, especially leg injury, but I can understand.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Man, you're quiet, bro. That's a tough injury, bro. It's tough, bro. Tuscamo brother right, that's my man. I fuck with him, though. He was caught. I heard that. I ain't got no problem repeating it.
Starting point is 00:28:51 NBA niggas wanna come, yeah, I'm watching all you niggas. I'm watching every last NBA nigga wanna come Eskimo bro up with one of the rappers. No, no, hit your ass back on the road. Oh, damn, Joe. You gotta know the NBA players that your Eskimo the road. Oh, damn, Joe. You got to know the NBA players that you're asking my brothers with. Sorry, it's important.
Starting point is 00:29:09 It's important. Twin. Hey, man, what's wrong with this? Gerald Smith was on the Knicks' course in a Rockets. He got the nerve to talk about the real JR. Now you got JR Smith fucked up. Buckets on and off the court. Yo.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Oh my God. Niggas get traded to the Knicks if you talk. Oh my God. He was supposed to be a Knicks? Yeah, I was rooting for that. I refused. I don't know what. You, it was you?
Starting point is 00:29:37 Yeah, I said no. Why? Because it's costing me. You're going in the last leg. That cost a living. When I should have came that second time, pause, I should've went, I went to Boston. I'm talking about the second time.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah, I went to Boston, I should've came. First time, you moved in and still. Tim's called me. Yeah, not the first time. Nah, the first time I was like, fuck no. Mellow, it's the cost of living, I like to live like this, nah. But then when Tim's come, I should've went.
Starting point is 00:30:03 I fucked that up. We just talked about the cost of living in New York. That shit wicked. Yeah, I don't know how y'all do that shit. I was just in a- What you mean? He just came from New York. Yeah, 700 square foot for like 3K. Well, I could tell you how it's done.
Starting point is 00:30:19 It's called New Jersey. Fuckin' dirty ass New York. All them rats. We used to play at, I mean, where is the, like, what's the closest to New York City though in Jersey? What city? It's, it's a bunch of New Jersey that's close to the city. Shit.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It was December 2019 when the story blew up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packer star Kabir Vajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. Hey, GB, explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.
Starting point is 00:31:08 I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila, you got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Listen to Spiral on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Renee Stubbs and I'm obsessed with sports, especially tennis. On the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, I get the chance to do what I love, talk about how tennis and other women's sports are growing and changing and what the future holds. I think I just genuinely loved what I did. I love this waking up, putting on my sports gear. I still believe it was so rewarding. Maybe you can relate to it as well. As a woman, I think it's a very powerful feeling to have a job at which you're able to see improvements in real time.
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Starting point is 00:33:49 that changed everything for her, performing while going through grief, and what it's like to release the pressure of being the GOAT, and so much more. Like I have no right to be winning this race. I really probably shouldn't even be doing it, but I'm here, so I will win. Listen to this episode of Dear Chelsea
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Starting point is 00:35:07 Get your tickets to be there now at AXS.com. So that's where you raise your families in Jersey. Yes, that's where you go to do anything. Host. We don't pump gas over there. Yeah, we just talked about that. Damn, y'all do got the attendance and shit. Yeah, come on. Now the only thing I was hating on,
Starting point is 00:35:31 because I went to the Colts game to fuck with Zee, when you go walk to the football stadium, it is a vibe. And we don't have that in Jersey because that shit is in the middle of fucking the East, where there ain for anybody walking, you just gotta drive up. But that's a vibe when everybody throw their Jersey on. Yeah, I don't come back.
Starting point is 00:35:50 I don't come back. Hey, white people take table games seriously here. Nah, they don't play. When it's crazy here, you can walk from Gainesburg to the patients play to, you know what I'm saying, Lucas Oil with no problem. I saw. Yeah, and the white people out here, they be outside.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Laws here don't matter to white people. They be outside. And I was don't matter to white people. They be outside. And I was outside, I wake up early, so I went downstairs at like 6 a.m. to smoke. I seen niggas headed to the stadium. I'm like. Yeah, they get it cracking early. No, they're crazy out here.
Starting point is 00:36:15 They're crazy out here. Which is so crazy, because it's such a basketball state, but they don't play about them coats. And that's why I told Zia Zia, bro, they love you, one time they love you forever here. Edwin James ain't left Indianapolis. Now you always here.
Starting point is 00:36:26 You a giant, Sam? Yes, unfortunately. Damn, that's unfortunate. If I had a rough day today. I wouldn't know. I ain't gonna know all season. You're about to knock me out. I'm gonna drop.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I protect my peace. Today was a rough day, boy. But when I seen Dak get paid this morning, I said, hey man, I pray Dak have a good season. I pray. They cashed him out? Oh, he got cashed out biggest, you know what I'm Dave, boy. But when I seen Dak get paid this morning, I said, hey man, I pray Dak have a good season. I pray. They cashed him out. Oh, he got cashed out biggest, know what I'm saying, check.
Starting point is 00:36:50 He told y'all that was happening. 60 M's. One thing about Jerry and them cowboys, all you gotta do is apply pressure and it work. Oh yeah. Except for homeboy that running back, what was that, Demarcus? Demarco Murray?
Starting point is 00:37:02 Oh man, he the only one. Fuck outta here. Nah, he said, you are running back Demarco Murray? Oh man. He don't want you. Fuck outta here. Nah, he said you are running back. We will find another you tomorrow. Zika ran the same play and it worked. Nah, it worked but then when Zika got on that bullshit. Gotta go. He said that nigga to the G League in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:37:17 We ain't seen no more of them little belly jerseys. He's back now though. He got a different number. He got a BBL in New England, came back down. That nigga looking straight, got a different number. It's a different nigga. I'm like happy. Zika's back now though. He got a different number. He got a BBL in New England, came back now. That nigga looking straight, got a different number. It's a different nigga now. I'm like happy. Bob Tauzeka's back, baby.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Oh, here you go. He back. Dawes had it in old parades. If he had a parade, cut him immediately. Which one? Any of them. Not the one in June, and not the one in February. Listen, they got two walks.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Oh, it's wicked out here. Listen, I'm gonna fuck with him. Listen. Listen. DJ, I'm not fucking with him. Listen. Listen. DJ, fuck me up. No, I didn't put you on. No, I didn't put you on.
Starting point is 00:37:52 They got a parade in fucking Fentanyl. That's black history, mother fucker. I was joking. How? I'm fucking saying. We probably had the first one, though, knowing us. I'm not laughing with him, bro. I'm laughing at him bro, he's stupid bro. We probably had the first one.
Starting point is 00:38:11 The Juneteenth parade is crazy. I'ma go ahead and give it to Frederick Douglass. Dr. Umar gonna kill you. Dr. Umar gonna kill you. We gonna go ahead and give it to Frederick Douglass. Dr. Umar calling you right. We gonna go and give some fresh and delicious. Dr. Umar calling you right now. You're full by the way. Hey, honestly, I'm happy you here
Starting point is 00:38:32 because maybe you can help this happen. We just need a five episode, no more than five. Dr. Umar and Tyree's doing a podcast together, that's it. Just five episodes though, no more than that. We need them together, the world deserves it. That Dr. Umar shit with this nigga is crazy. Dr. Umar and Ty five podcasts world deserves it. That's not the one more shit with this nigga. It's crazy Dr. Umar top five pack has those all talk. How did you how did you get him, bro? I agree He's the only person I ever paid to do a podcast. Mm-hmm. I paid him. I hit him
Starting point is 00:38:55 We pay one person to use the only person I ain't paying none of these niggas, but he said that number like Take that yeah, man, boy, was it worth it. Hey. Hey. Legendary, bro. Talk about, oh, all right. Hey, I almost sent that nigga a chip afterward. Afterward, I was like, hell, you were so ill, nigga.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Now I'm blowing it up. He gonna come back and hit a different number. He about to double. Yeah, Umu, I always wanted to talk to him and I reached out and he gave me a number and I dubbed it, cause get the fuck out of here. And then I circled back like a few months later,
Starting point is 00:39:40 the number had changed. The number had changed. That's good, that's good, I finished. You got to use the last piece. I number changed. That school got finished. You was the last piece. I'm not sure if it's finished yet. Did it get finished? No, it's still a little worse. See, he be up on it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 They just broke ground. Oh, see? Where did you see the pictures at? All right. YouTube. I'm in trouble with everybody. I'm fucking with you. Hey, his videos at the park used to be legendary.
Starting point is 00:40:02 It's Kias Wynn. He like fuck these white people, lock you in. Bro, you can't do that. Go home and do these videos. Blackface forever. Stop talking about these forever. When he was talking about that picture of the Knicks, man. That shit was funny, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Oh my God. Hey, but I swear, he's top five podcast for all time, bro. I agree. He's crazy. That's a good investment, Joe. No, he's fun. Yeah, you'da go for that, for sure. Yeah, he's all a fuckin' nut, yo.
Starting point is 00:40:36 No, that's him, man. But every time I watch your clips, I'm like, nah, these things have a lot of fun in here. Y'all really some of the only ones having fun. And these podcaststers look stressed. I'm my mama. They out there looking broke. Fuckin'.
Starting point is 00:40:51 They looking like they don't lather. They don't lather? Yeah, they just not having a good time. Oh, man, y'all are crazy. Oh! Nah, Umbra, when I say you had Umar, I said you had Joe in his bag. He had to get him, bro.
Starting point is 00:41:09 No, yeah. I ask now, because we big fans of the show, who was one person that was supposed to do the show and is never like, form a letter, you're still waiting on him to pull up? Shit, that don't exist. There ain't none of that. I don't play.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Okay. I don't, none of these niggas are invited to my show. I don't mean for you, Ace. None of y'all have. Touch your shit. Crazy. I wish one of these niggas would. What?
Starting point is 00:41:33 Are you nuts? No, that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen. If you see somebody on the show outside of Umar, who I paid, but I fuck with him now, but outside of him, everybody you see on that show, I have some type of relationship equity with, and that's how they got there.
Starting point is 00:41:52 For sure. Or somebody I wanted to meet. Like, so I'll take you while you're on your press run, but other than that, I normally don't take nobody on a press run normally. I don't take nobody I don't know, or somebody in the room don't know. I try my best to not speak to the people.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's way more fun talking about these niggas. And then when you meet them, they think that you can't talk about them no more. It's like, no, no, no. And they gonna call Joe button fake and phone. I was just there. So what? So what? The gig is the gig. The gig is the gig. So no, I was just there. So what? So what?
Starting point is 00:42:25 The gig is the gig. The gig is the gig. So no, that didn't happen. There's nobody that I'm still waiting on them and the invite got lost. Actually there's one person, but I can't say up here. There's a woman. It's a woman.
Starting point is 00:42:39 She'll be there, she'll be there. She's a friend. For sure. And it's funny, cause like, I love podcasts and you know what I'm saying, it's like growing up from like the evolution of it seeing how it started, like Combat Jack was like my first introduction to podcasts.
Starting point is 00:42:52 So I started in that realm and then what was dope to see, like your form, like how it worked for you was like, nah, I'm just up here with my people. Everybody else who were like relies heavily upon guests, you see them like scramble for stuff. So it was dope to see art. I know y'all gonna make this content no matter what and like you say you see a lot of people stressed out cuz it's like damn I didn't did a hundred
Starting point is 00:43:09 interviews who's next but niggas can't do episode by themselves the interviewers it's nobody left to interview we interviewing the interviewers there's nobody it's over we've heard from everybody already it's done it's a wrap then these niggas come in here they all got they all think they important they from everybody already, it's done, it's a wrap. Then these niggas come in here, they all got, they all think they important, they come in 100 niggas, I'm like, dog, get out my shit, my shit smell good in here.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I got room spray, nigga. I got fucking Aroma 360 in here. You got all these musty ass niggas in here. No. I'm out of pockets, yo. I wanna ask you though, since you here, nigga. Why he open a hindi bottle. And I do have a question for y'all at some point,
Starting point is 00:43:49 cause y'all put up Umar. I need to know who is Snow Bunny lover in here or not. Oh. Oh. And I know y'all aren't in here. Black Queen forever. I know y'all, I know where we at. Snow Bunny's never. Okay, that's bitch shit.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Shout out to the Neanderthals. My wife Latina. How did you? In the middle. Can you? My mama was like that. That boy Lenny is a little different. He is.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We got company bro. Triple double team over there. You ever hear about, you know, you watch basketball. You know when niggas all around. They got all around, gang. Then you got your nigga straight shooter. Got it. This nigga doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:44:36 This nigga. Got me three level score. This nigga can do everything. That boy over there can do everything. I got it, I got it, I got it. Shout out to Dykeman. Big team. I didn't even get to see the full throttle.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I was so crazy. I was watching the high team. Oh shit. Real summer league. Nah, I wanna ask, how the hell did you land on love and hip hop? I wanna go back a little bit. The first one. A mess.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Touched it with a... did Monda come find Joe? Disgusting. Why did I do that? I forgot he did that. Yeah, I'm tapped in. Fuck. The check. I said, oh Joe, Joe's a real human.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I ain't gonna shout out no girl, but I said, woo hoo. It's Joe. It's Joe. It's Joe. It's Joe. It's Joe. It's Joe said, woo hoo. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy.
Starting point is 00:45:36 It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy.
Starting point is 00:45:44 It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. It's your boy. I can't help but to sit up. So how did you? No, I'm not on that, but I'm just saying. Listen. When I tapped in, I just want to go back to the beginning. But I said, my boy is a legend. It was a mess. I shouldn't have did it. I was mollied up. I was on every pill in the world.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Thank God fentanyl didn't exist back then. But no, I just did it. At the time, I thought that you would leverage the visibility and maybe that'd do something for your career. That's all a crock of shit. Well it wasn't me anyway, the first time. First time, but I went back and cleaned it up. But a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:14 I went back and cleaned it up. Yeah, I went back, we got the money right, got the story right, got some editing. I mean, I'm in here, I'm in the meeting, come on, what we doing, let's get it right. I had to go back and present myself the way I was supposed to'm in here, I'm in the meeting, come on, what we doing, let's get it right. I had to go back and present myself the way I was supposed to be presented, so I'm glad that that happened.
Starting point is 00:46:29 That first time though, and, oh, I'm fucking with you niggas. And then they gonna put it on Netflix now. So for the people that missed it, like, gee. Oh, he's gonna put it back? He's gonna be like, bro. I need to see first season of Stevie J. I'll go.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I don't know, but my whole shit is on Netflix. I'm on the cover looking dumb as hell. Oh, I can't wait to see you. Oh, you're on the Netflix cover? Yes. Yes. I can't wait to see that one. Oh, I didn't get to see you get a guy.
Starting point is 00:46:57 That's the real you. You was the real Isojo. Yeah. I'm loving it, man. He was the real Isojo. I can't wait to see this shit. He is a legend. P, we got something to watch.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Plaid pink shirt on the cover. Hey. Oh, nasty. Oh, you remember those shirts? Disgusting. Oh, no, that's y'all twins. That's my first night out. The plaid joints?
Starting point is 00:47:17 My first night out in Atlanta. I wore plaid. Killin', right? Man, I thought that was a shit. It is, too, we was killin' in the plaid joints'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:27 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:34 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:47:40 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I, why did you do that? Jersey. I see niggas today in phones, I'm like. Y'all see that jersey? I keep posting it, the foot skit ball. Did Joe rock the two headbands too?
Starting point is 00:47:51 Like Ron Artis? The D headband pause. That was me. He had me try to do that weak ass shit at party. Two heads! The double headband! I said, try, I can't do this. Hey, I see the picture of this nigga Ron Artis.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I said, yeah, I can't do this. Hey, I see the picture of this nigga right on our tits. I said, you're on this shit. I know, I got a motherfucking message from Mellow talking about me, I come to the pod. I'm like, all right, man, I love Mellow. I sit down, here you go. Yo, so the headband. I'm like, are you inviting me here to ask me about this headband?
Starting point is 00:48:21 Uh-uh, what do you got a picture of? I wanna know, that's the same thing Mellow did, is it? a picture on it. Hey, man. I wanna know. That's the same thing Melo did, is it? They pulled me right up on the side looking stupid like that. I wanna know, that company, we need to talk to their marketing director, cause that was one of the wildest marketing games
Starting point is 00:48:34 I've ever seen about Melo. You and Ron Artest alone was the best. That's not true. But that's not true. And that's my beef. Man's niggas wore that bull shit. Mine is the only one that stood the test of time. You and Trish said it, Trish. Yeah, that's my beef. Man's niggas want that bullshit. Mine is the only one that stood the test of time. You a Triss Center troll.
Starting point is 00:48:49 That's a mess. It's because of Joe Biden's disrespect. That's they fault. 100%. Nah nigga, I gotta say one thing. That shit funny as fuck though. But academics had us, he said something about us on our pod, on his pod.
Starting point is 00:49:01 You should have heard what he said about these two niggas. Wait, what happened? What'd he say? Oh yeah. So they said, so I can't remember what y'all said. So Joe Button and Danny Green had a little issue. Me and Danny Green? No, Joe, I mean not, sorry, not Joe, academics had a.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Oh yeah, Danny Green tried to fuck his girl or something like that. Yeah, and we was like, bro, you shouldn't have. You know what I mean, you out of pocket, basically. He went in on these two. I was like, what is this shit about life, man? I don't even remember what he said, but he thought that shit was so funny.
Starting point is 00:49:31 I forgot the group, bro. I was crying. That's why I love Ag Dog. Because anybody say anything about him, he fired off for the next week. No, he go crazy. Yeah, I'm fucking with it. Dude, that was funny.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I like posting that. The fact that we get all our Drake updates from him is hilarious to me to this point. And I actually love it. I love that we got Drake updates from him. I love it. Yo. I mean, I fuck with Drake too, but not like that. Not like that. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Not like that. Not like that. Oh, shit. Not like that. No, this dude fucking. I can't even say. Joe good at this. Joe good.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He just look. I can't. I don't know. Yo. He see me. I didn't look. I didn't look. I didn't look for a phone call about the...
Starting point is 00:50:25 I looked for a phone call about the... Holy shit. Because I knew someone was saying Drake. I don't like the Drake updates, man. That's all. I just don't like it. I know. I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I don't like it. This is funny. Oh, man. This is crazy, man. Holy shit, man. I love how we got here, man. For this to happen the way it did is absolutely perfect crazy man. Holy shit man. I love how we got here man. For this to happen the way it did is absolutely perfect man. For you to be at the game supporting the trenches man. Them going crazy. We gotta show some love on the show man. The
Starting point is 00:50:54 trenches going crazy. Z, Tim, Jade and my boy EJ. I love to see they progression man. They going crazy. Their time is up man. I'm so proud of them. I'm proud of them. First of all I fuck with all of them. And secondly, I tell every podcaster as they start, you gotta just wanna do it. Like you gotta have a will to wanna do it. There's gonna be 10 billion reasons why you'll wanna stop doing it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And days where you wake up and the only thing that keep you there is your will to do it. And them boys have it. have it it did it they Showcase it time and time again. I've seen them straight from the game catch a flight. I've seen them just get it done And I'm super happy for him. I can't wait to go over there and fuck with them tomorrow They don't only niggas that could have got me out here. Tell me some of Colts game. I don't give a fuck Better than a giant. Oh, oh no for sure I don't give a fuck. They better than the Giants.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Oh no, for sure. Everybody better than the Giants. Yeah, facts. And they gonna put them on hard knocks, so I gotta be in my living room watching like. I'm a 49ers fan, so allegedly. All the way, my bad. I mean, I fuck with Z though.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I fuck with Z, so I fuck with the Coats now. Yeah, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the Coats. Are you a Coats fan now? Oh yeah, I bleed blue. You see I got my shit on my day. Oh, you fuck with shit. Look, I'm a fan. I'm a fan of the coast. You a coast fan now? Oh yeah, I bleed blue. You see I got my shit on my day. Oh, you full of shit. Look at that's Jeff Gordon.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Yeah, that's the jacket. That's the jacket. Look at how I fuck with the coast. Jeff was at the game. Now he was definitely at the February parade. Oh, girl, I'm out. So, Roman, shout out to Jeff Gordon. That was a good game, though.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Shout out to the coast. I want to ask game though. Shout out to the Colts. I wanna ask you though, how you feel about the space that rap is in right now? Hip hop. Oh, I wouldn't know. I'm just an R. You ain't tapping. I'm R'n'B'd out.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I don't know what none of the rap niggas is doing. What space is in? Y'all tell me. I like it. But they don't really like. I don't like how it's evolving for real. Like it ain't really no, I don't know, I just feel it's more versatile rappers now.
Starting point is 00:52:51 It's not really stuck on. Y'all used to look at, you know, lyrics that used to go in on Muffo because he really couldn't rap for real. Thanks. Yeah, he was one of them type niggas. But I like how, you know, the space is evolving. Like the melodic shit, I like that shit.
Starting point is 00:53:07 I like keeping an eye out for the business and watching how music is consumed and what's happening with the labels, what's happening at the streaming services. I guess that's what I'm trying to say. Today I don't really care what the rappers are doing. Musically, I care about how they're living and the business.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Like I think a lot of, I think there are, I think we're in the middle of a shift. Not just in rap, but in podcasting, in fucking the car dealerships. I think mad different places with this election shit going on is gonna see a shit, stock, all of them. So rap is just one of them. And they got some things to figure out.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Shit is fucked up. It's hundreds of layoffs. Labels disintegrating right before our very eyes. It may be 2% of niggas, Travis Scott just sold 500,000 and he sold 20,000 like they. Allegedly. He never sold no fucking 500,000, man. I don't know why they keep trying to fool people
Starting point is 00:54:15 with this nonsense. It's just a bunch of smoke and mirrors now. So it's tough, it's tough. And then I think it's probably a shame. We about to be in 2025. I think it's probably a shame. We about to be in 2025. I think it's a shame that there is no rapper that just has like a grip on, pause, on what's going on for the next five years.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Like, remember when Lil Baby was on his run, and they was like, oh, he's about to take over for the next 10 years. And it was like, man. Slow, yeah, it gets quiet kind of fast. It gets quiet fast for rappers today and I think that's a shame. Life expectancy for rappers is a year and a half.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Career expectancy, I mean. That's crazy. Yeah, on average, but I think Rod Wave got a long time in this shit. You named one nigga. You said nobody. Hey, that's a Rod Wave disciple right there. On the average, I give you that.
Starting point is 00:55:04 And if NBA Youngboy went on all that shit, he'll still be popping. Well, that's a raw wave disciple right there. On the average, I give you that. And if NBA Youngboy wasn't on all that shit, he'd still be popping. Well, that's the thing. Niggas is on a whole bunch of shit, so that counts. Oh, that counts. That counts. If you got a gift and it's being hindered because of some other shit,
Starting point is 00:55:19 then we gotta call Spade the Spade. Nah, yeah. But I was there for that one, too. Youngboy's about to take over. Okay, let's watch him. Where is the class that's running away with it so we're at 20, 30, we know what we rocking with? I mean, I don't know if he gonna be rocking from 20, 30,
Starting point is 00:55:36 but Future got a, he got a good hold on the gang. He don't really miss, like we have a GOAT debate, like our GOAT. Yeah, my GOAT is Future for sure. His GOAT is Future. Like he think, but when I think about him, right now he probably the best out, we used to do it versus with somebody,
Starting point is 00:55:51 I feel like not too many people can compete with Future. He just really don't miss to me. I agree, but Future for me is like a legacy act now. So I don't really look at him as... He ain't taking money from nobody else. His money gonna be for him. His is his, he got it already. Set in stone.
Starting point is 00:56:12 In 2030, I don't even know a future of Phil like doing none of that shit. Well, he'll be, that nigga be 50. Bro, 50? That don't stop nothing now. Nah. Phil 50 don't change. LL just dropped.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Who? LL? Oh, Cool J. No, no, you don't change Cool Now they just call me long legs still in great shape I'm trying to dissing. No, we just want to make sure it's not. Well, you're dissed him. No, you're dissed him. I didn't know he was dissed. LL and you said, oh, Cool J.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, I'm finished his name, nigga. I know you, though. I know you from New York, nigga. You call him LL. You probably call him Lswerve, whatever y'all call it, nigga. Lswerve is crazy. Lswerve, no. I didn't think there was another Ell-ell that people knew.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I'm just saying shout out to LL Cool J. No disrespect. Don't do that. No disrespect, but I'm just saying like, I don't think y'all know any songs from that album that he just dropped. Oh, that's not true. Well, I mean, Joe, you from that era.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'm talking about these two niggas. Oh no, they probably won't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean Joe you you from that era. I'm talking Oh, no, they probably won't. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm talking with these two niggas I see you did drop a cool song on there What's that? Mama said knock you out, too important to That's like, you know what? That's like the Coach America. Don't do your little head and shine. Don't tell him nothing. That's like, Mike. There we go. You know what, I mean, Sean's a swerve.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Let me start, cause I'm gonna fill that little Cujet. I just watched it, he gave it Sunday, I want no smoke. I know he's the way he got it with Jamie ass. I'm cool, fool. Nah, I was on the album. I gotta listen now. I hear you, you got it with Jamie ass, I'm cool. He got Jamie with it. Nas on the album? I gotta listen now. Here you go. Oh, that's good. Out of respect.
Starting point is 00:58:08 All the shit fired in. Nah, I don't respect. I'm the biggest Nas fan. So whatever Nas drop, I'll be like, listen, they think I'm fucking weird or something. I don't think you're weird, I just, I know you're not as big as a Nas fan as you put out to the world.
Starting point is 00:58:21 I listen to Nas all the time, though. Every time he drop. Press them for one second, E.J. I listen to him sometimes. Nah, I listen to that nigga. I tell him it's changed, you know. I listen to Don Tri the time though. Every time he drop. Press them for one second, I listen to them sometimes. No, I listen to that nigga every time he drop. I listen to Don Tripp every time he drop and I listen to Nas every time he drop. Gotta let him set on that.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Shout out to step brothers. Okay, shout out to Don Tripp. Yeah. Hey, what record was yours? What was, what, yo record on the video game? What's that motherfucker called? Pump It Up? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:58:43 What was it on? What was it on? Def Jam and Bandana? He talking about Def Jam and Bandana. Nah, what's that on there? NBA game? Pump It Up? Wait, what was it on? What was it on? That damn bandana? He talking about that. Nah, what's that on there? Was that on there? NBA game? Pump It Up, I don't think it was on there.
Starting point is 00:58:50 I got something. NBA Live. NBA Live. And I got a NBA Live plaque in my house. Yeah. That's hard. How you feel about that, though? The live soundtracks was heat.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Live was the shit. Live had the box. No, that soundtrack, it was hard and it was paying. Yeah. They were like having an album. No, I soundtrack, it was hard and it was paying. Yeah. Live was paying. They were like having an album. No, I'm with that. I'm just not with NBA Live sending me a plaque.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Man, Joe. I was thinking like that. What year was that? 03. 03. 03 was hard. That was hard, bro. That was a freestyle.
Starting point is 00:59:20 The graphic was on the cover. Yeah, Mello. Mello was on it. Yeah, I was about to say that was the, yeah that was on it. They had the dunk contest on that one. Yeah. Now you a legend for that. I think it was Hooper.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I'm not sure. Nah yeah bro, we all did. In that old format with Mike Vic on the cover, that's when they started doing QB Vision bro, that was different times bro. I just wanted to ask you why I brought that up, it's like how does that work? Like how do they go about grabbing your record
Starting point is 00:59:39 and putting it on? Yes sir. J.Kid. I'm out of pocket. J.Kid was on the phone. Sorry. Even better. Jersey on the cover. J.Kid was the one. Yeah, I'm stupid, Mello wasn't even leaving on the phone. I'm out it on. Yes sir. J.Kid. I'm out of pocket. J.Kid was the one. Sorry, even better. Jersey on the cover?
Starting point is 00:59:45 J.Kid was the one. Yeah, I'm stupid. Melo Winnie and Lingo, my bad, I'm out of pocket. Yeah, how'd that phone call go, or how does that go with your record, like being put on, how'd that go about doing that? Well, at that time I'm signed to Def Jam, so that means that Def Jam did whatever the fuck
Starting point is 00:59:59 they wanted with anything that I made. Oh, damn. With or without a phone call or courtesy text. All right, Brian. You was TLC. Well, no, they got done bad. They got done bad. Joe was the left eye.
Starting point is 01:00:11 See niggas look at me and be like, oh, you ain't sell no records. Great. Some of these other niggas have sold millions and millions and millions of records and it just math didn't math. So. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, but you got the gold plaque though.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That was fire. That's hard. For L.L. to give you a gold plaque is fire. Why you playing like that? I'm watching him. You got one of them sent to you. Yeah. He ain't triggered me.
Starting point is 01:00:37 He can't trigger me. I'm familiar with that. I do this. I got your gold plaque. Right? Right, you got your shit. I ain't with that since the beginning. I knew this. Nah, but you got your gold. Black, right? Right, you got your shit. Nah, I ain't know that one. I ain't know that one.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Look what we put on YouTube, Black. What? Yo, why y'all disrespectful? Oh, man. We have no place to put it. Oh, shit, YouTube, they made them nice. Now, you had a white one. Yeah, they ain't gold.
Starting point is 01:01:04 What color is yours, man? Black white one. Yeah, it's yours me black Yeah, we have a subscribe job after this episode we'll be a 400. Oh didn't mean it like that. I didn't mean it like that. Joe, we on Joe A's. We about to get on Joe A's. That's crazy. No, all of us got the 100 ones, and we felt good about the 100 ones. That new way of shit was a fucking...
Starting point is 01:01:42 Yes, I did. I got this. OK, I didn't. I probably threw it somewhere, but. God, bitch. We got our shit hanging up. You talking about your questions? No, y'all don't.
Starting point is 01:01:52 That is not hanging up. That's our narrative. Oh, OK. That niggas lost. We got to watch this on somehow. Respect, Joe. That shit, man. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Respect, Joe. I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it like that. That nigga got real cocky. Holy shit. Holy fuck. I think I said, are we on Joey? He was joking.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I was joking. Oh, man. Wait, what was he talking about? Talking about Pump It Up, nigga. Oh, yeah. My gold plaque. My gold plaque. My gold plaque.
Starting point is 01:02:23 My gold plaque. Now, to see that happen, see, that was fire. That was fire. That part was fire. L bringing me that plaque, I had been asking him for it, or we had been asking him for it for quite some time. Get outta here. So him bringing it up there during the interview, that was all the way fire.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Nah, that's tough. Outside of that. Man, fuck that, who else would have, like, you got a big ass record, fire. Outside of that. Man, fuck that. Who else had like, you got a big ass record, bro. That shit still get played. Yeah, and that shit came on in about seven games today. Like it's a record. Like that's the part that I'm proud of.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Like fuck the numbers, fuck the plaques. Like at 21, 22 years old, when niggas was like, yo, make something or we dropping you. I made something and it went, timeless. That's back to my hip hop conversation though. What are the records being made today that are gonna be here 30 years from now? Oh nigga, Marsh Madness is gonna be here.
Starting point is 01:03:20 You talking about Future. That's never leaving. Yeah, that's never leaving. Future Slaps is not everyone else's. We can go. Well, of Noir X, I don't see too many of these songs being relevant in the next five, let alone 10 years. And that's the time. I'm nothing, bro. I mean.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Nothing, bro. Kendrick's song gonna be here. Niggas not listening to Sexy Red 10 years from now. What? As great as she is. It's gonna be even worse. It's gonna be somebody else, yeah, it's gonna be her. What's the one? Get It Sexy, you wanna say that one?
Starting point is 01:03:46 What, they dropping them. Back that ass up. For sure. That shit's gonna study. I like that take, I ain't mad at that. You told him to stop talking about me. Hey, you're here. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:03:57 You're here. But panning the cameras. No, no. That's why she came right there. The influence. Now, we outta here. The scene of where the crowd react when she played up.
Starting point is 01:04:05 We went to her concert, bro, and she was better in her concert and her set than the closing act of that night. Whoever that was. We ain't gonna say no names. It was Moneybag, right? She shut that bitch down. Whoever that was. I mean, damn, what was it?
Starting point is 01:04:19 Allegedly. Moneybag? I don't know Moneybag. Moneybag. Oh, Moneybag, yeah. She shut the stadium down. Well, arena, I mean. Money bag. Oh, money bag girl. She shut the stadium down, well arena I mean. Barefoot. Shut it down bro. She was barefoot.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Barefoot and she was pregnant. In here, in Indianapolis, it was white families with their kids on their shoulders. Singing that shit. Singing that shit. Yeah. People don't even celebrate February differently. If I'm money bag, yo I don't know if I'm,
Starting point is 01:04:41 I don't know if I'm letting sexy bad open up. He didn't know. I'll be honest with you. I don't know if I'm doing that. I wouldn up. I was honest with you. I don't know if I'm doing that. I wouldn't have did it. That's a problem. She wasn't even the sex, she was literally the opening act. How long ago was it?
Starting point is 01:04:53 This was last year. Last training camp. I'm not doing that. That shit was rock. Last training camp, no we was there. I was like, man people walkin' like this shit. Nigga we was walking on the floor, like on the stage. I could touch the stage.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Last year, Sexy Rap was Sexy Rap. That song had just kinda dropped. Yeah, it had just kinda dropped. Whatever her first song was, it was kinda droppin'. She was catchin' crazy strides. She wasn't all loyal, but she was writin' a craze. But after seein' that, I was like, oh, this makes sense. I went to a Sweet 16, my stepkids Sweet 16,
Starting point is 01:05:22 last year, October. That's actually when Drake dissed me. That's actually when Drake dissed me. Shout out to Drizzy, man. At that moment, though. Shout out to Drizzy. I hope you don't tell your sister. No, but after sweet 16, nothing but sexy rap.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And all of them kids singing every word in unison. I'm sitting there like, holy shit. So yeah, I could see that being a problem. You say you don't think that's gonna be back to that shit? Really? I do not. What? She's a big artist, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I don't see her dying off. I don't think she gonna die, but I just said five, she ain't gonna die out. Like Meek Mills, he gonna keep having that run with that intro. Anytime that drop, that's still gonna be. But niggas are saying they're getting tired of that. Yeah, but when it drops.
Starting point is 01:06:13 It's still a, I'm not, I love it. When it's on, it's on. When it's on, it's on. You might not put it on anymore. But when it's up on. But whenever I, I never seen people even doubt it. That's why I'm saying even to see the doubt or the hesitation towards it now,
Starting point is 01:06:26 it's like, come on y'all. When I drop it on my own. You rap that shit. So I think it's a few songs out here. I see what y'all's talking about, totality, yeah, but I don't know if it was songs back when you was rapping. Boy, you still rap, but I'm saying. No, I don't.
Starting point is 01:06:40 That what you're gonna say? No, the fuck I do not. I mean, you probably be in the shower spitting rap, bro. You probably. I don't write rap. I don't think of you probably be in the shower spitting rap, bro Alright rap, I don't think of sometimes I think I know you do When you say that he got a rap you I know you was just like nigga I got a verse right now The shit y'ally wrote for Drake is hard to fix. I don't know if you... I don't know if you tapped in or not. I don't know. You heard some of that shit he wrote.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Hey, that jump on tribal, that shit hit different. Shout out to Yachty. Shout out to Yachty. I ain't joke crazy. This nigga, he'll set you right on up. Cause they trying to get with that Mike Jackson shit, man. This nigga, he'll set you right on up. Cause they trying to get with that Mike Jackson shit, man. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Hey, we had a crazy couple with the Mike Jackson and then the D-Way. Oh my God, I'm not saying nothing about D-Way, bro. Oh, the D-Way Hart thing? No, no. Like a Mike thing? No, we're not doing that one. Who said it? T?
Starting point is 01:07:41 I just said it, never mind, I'm not even saying it, bro. Somebody tell me, edit it out. I said James Harden was better than D-Wade. I had him higher on the shooting guard list. Boy, they killed me. Everybody in my head. ESPN took the tape. Went crazy, aw man.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Aw man. ESPN. They took it. No, they ran with it. They had a whole little set of Steven A now. First take A block. Since we talking about basketball, I do wanna ask you who is-
Starting point is 01:08:05 The best you can go in the world, man. Who? D Wade. Yeah, I had said he was four. He's a third guess. I ain't mad at you for that. Yeah, I'll take D Wade to three. I almost thought that was like a fact.
Starting point is 01:08:15 I didn't think that was something that could even be argued. I just said the way, when I played James Harden, I played D Wade, I played James Harden. When I played James Harden, everybody focused on James Harden. When you played D Wade, I played James Horton. When I played James Horton, everybody focused on James Horton. When you played D Wade, you knew he was cold, no disrespect, you knew he was the GOAT,
Starting point is 01:08:31 like one of the GOATs, but you just didn't, wasn't the same energy. When you played the Houston Rockets with James Horton, bro, you had to do everything to stop him. Don't switch, trap him, I don't know, we had all types of defensive plans. Y'all doing like this, not y'all, but some of the newer age players is doing this revisionist history thing
Starting point is 01:08:51 where championships matter none. They don't. I mean, but you gotta see who we run up against. I'm hearing this more and more today. Because it's, listen Joe, I mean, go on, game me up. We just talk about pure skill. He was played against these niggas, bro. So you take, the championships don't matter.
Starting point is 01:09:14 It's who we game planing for. Niggas ain't game planning for Clint Capella and Patrick Beverly. You know what I mean? He played when D-W Wade had Brian and Bosch and he's just basically talking about the focal point and for him to still have those statistics versus everybody in the NBA was a little bit hard.
Starting point is 01:09:34 He was averaging 36 in the hole. He was the whole focal point. And led the league in assists. But why you telling me about D Wade on the Heedles? Because he got that ring before. Yeah, why you skipping the whole career? But he's just speaking of his time playing. I give you examples.
Starting point is 01:09:48 But he didn't play 05 D Wade. I give you an example. I know D Wade was a problem. I'm not saying that. But D Wade best year. No, no, I ain't no hater. I always tell everybody the truth. I think it was cold.
Starting point is 01:10:00 But his best year he averaged 30. He led the league in scoring at 30. James Horton best year he averaged 36. And led the league in scoring at 30 James Horton best year He averaged 36 and led the league and the league in assists Like what are we doing? And they team was winning. Okay, he never got he never got made the playoffs See and this be my problem with Hoopers sometimes and the way Mr. Playoffs with them Let's talk for a little bit. Okay Y'all know that cool what happens on the court is on the court, but in the board room somewhere
Starting point is 01:10:31 there's a plan, it's just like in music, there's a plan that says we wanna increase scoring. Yeah, of course. We wanna increase the three point shot. We wanna do X, so the leagues that you talking about are two different leagues. But you gotta think a lot, you wanna increase it, but motherfuckers gotta do it Do you wait and shoot threes so he was gonna be the same player that he is like even thing
Starting point is 01:10:51 But but free Steph nobody looked at threes like that No, they didn't but my whole point when they did James Hart was able to adapt and became one of the best at it Yeah, I'm saying D way was still in the league when the threes adjusted and he still was shooting middies. You remember when they lost to the Dallas? They was shooting all mid-rangers, they was going under the screen, him and Brown was missing. We was in the league at that time,
Starting point is 01:11:14 Steph was shooting hella threes. James Harden was doing his shit. You don't think that's tougher when you know a dude is not gonna shoot that shot and he still do what he want? Nah, I think it's tougher when I know you got the capabilities of making that shot, because now I'm at your mercy. And then James stopped looking like James
Starting point is 01:11:36 once they start paying him rest with them whistles. Yeah. It was a whole... What's not looking like James? What, James 35 and you still average 20 inches? You know the move that... Oh, no, no, that's shit what's not looking like James, what James 35 and you still average 20 inches? You know that moved it. Oh no, no that shit, that shit, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:49 No that shit was unbelievable. You can't knock him for finessing the leaves, Joe. I did knock him. D-Way used to do the pump fake. Right. He'd get you on the edge. Him and Paul Pierce. Pump fake, get you to the free throw line.
Starting point is 01:12:01 He still pump faking. Well I give it to Harden over D-Way. He still pump faking. Harden did all that shit straight from the strip club. Harden, Harden. We ain't gonna speak on that. I'll beat y'all. I'll beat y'all.
Starting point is 01:12:12 The next game man, I'll be there. He was doing it like that. He applied to Vegas. And he did it with a body suit on too. Did a fat suit. Did a fat suit. Yeah. I'm sick.
Starting point is 01:12:22 It didn't work. That's one of the- Get out of there. That's one of the fire negotiation tactics I've ever seen in my life. That nigga went full Norbert and got paid. I wanna ask you though, who's the greatest Nick ever? Oh. Who is the greatest?
Starting point is 01:12:34 And then I want your favorite Nick ever. Nick. Yep, I want your greatest and your favorite. Greatest Nick. Well, greatest speaks to winning. Yeah. Go crazy. So, you probably gotta go fucking Clyde.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Clyde. You probably gotta go Clyde. Walt Clyde Frazier's probably the greatest nigga of all time. It stayed relevant still with them crazy ass suits. Nigga be on it. He's commentating the game. He perplexing and slexing. That nigga's fit speak.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Crazy. The black rags niggas. Yeah, all that braggin' shit. That nigga's Fitzby. Crazy. The black rex hager. The black rex hager. Yeah. Who your favorite neck? Oh man, I got a lot of favorite necks. Give us two. Pablo Prigioni. I fuck with Pablo.
Starting point is 01:13:15 He coached me in Minnesota. That was my guy. I like Pablo. Yeah, he spoke about him before. That's crazy. He's not my favorite, but I like him a lot. Yeah, that's just. Pablo was cool as fuck.
Starting point is 01:13:22 How we other? We saw your coach. 39-year-old rookie. I remember bro talking to Hill stories about him. Yeah real mad. Pablo was cool as fuck. We saw your co- 39 year old rookie. I remember bro talking to Hill stories about him. Yeah, Pablo was nice. Pablo came from the trenches too. Pablo, he cool as fuck. Yeah, I wasn't expecting that one, that's a good one.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Look, no I was just talking shit. He's not my favorite, but. You a dickhead. I probably appreciate the challenge. I'm not fucking with Pablo. Bro, really fuck with him though, that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm just gonna kill the show. I'm not gonna fuck with him though. That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:46 I'll fuck with Pablo. Aunt Mason. Fuckin' LJ, four point play. Like that Nick team, Spreewell, After He Choked, what's his name, yeah. He like, oh, nigga. Yeah, I like the niggas that are fucking with me. Talk to the niggas.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Did he ever go to the game with Jeremy Lin was there? No. Shit, you should have won. That shit was crazy. We played him when he was on that run. They beat us too. That shit was, I've been to the Garden a hundred times. That was the craziest I ever seen the Garden, bro.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It was like 70 cameras everywhere, whole floor. Shit was a zoo, bro. I'd never seen nothing like it. You was going to the Garden with Jeremy Lin? Yeah. What'd he do? I never, bro. I'd never seen nothing like it. You was going to Jeremy Lin? Yeah. What'd he do? I never thought that. I think he probably had like 20.
Starting point is 01:14:29 I never thought that was sustainable. I knew it wasn't gonna work that long, he wasn't. He brought me to your bank. Then when Mello came back, he had the nerve to be like, that's my team or some shit, nigga. That basketball, it's over now. For the money side, it was kinda like, come on, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:44 This is my team, bro. I don't want nobody to went to Stanford. Thank you their team Yeah, he has y'all lit though Didn't even really turn his knob off though like that for real Like that, for real? That was crazy. I was like, that was crazy. Y'all know how I was like, I was like. I heard his knob off. Joe, chill out.
Starting point is 01:15:09 That was crazy. He cut the water out. Y'all niggas are out of mind. Joe, you too damn old. I know, I know. First of all. You right. You right.
Starting point is 01:15:16 But, Len Sanity didn't really stop. Mello was kinda, and Mello my favorite player ever, but he was kinda hating on Len Sanity, bro. He wasn't hating. Should've let him rock his year out. It went was kinda hating on Lince Anady, bro. I wouldn't hate him. Should've let him rock his ear out. Bro, it went back to order. Order was the story, bro. He wouldn't hate him.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Trish Chiles had to punch Kobe in the face. Ba-boom! Don't do that, don't do that. He did, though. He did. You can't even say that. He's like all the time, two niggas. I can't comment on Kobe.
Starting point is 01:15:40 He a Charles Oakley fan. I can't comment on Kobe. I fuck with Oak. Yeah. Charles Oakley choking out the ushers is still one of my favorite I can't comment on Kobe. I fuck with Oak. Yeah. Charles Oakley choking out the ushers is still one of my favorite memes of all time, bro. I don't like Dolan kicking him out. That was crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Charles Oakley coaching in the big three is funny as hell. Wow. Y'all gotta see the play he wrote up one day, bruh. I hope one day they show, they zoom in on the play he wrote up. It's the funniest shit ever. Him and Gary Payton, I don't know who the worst was. Gary Payton being the coach of the big three
Starting point is 01:16:05 is still one of my favorite things on earth. Them niggas is living out, like when you watch your son hoop, they do niggas. Sad ass nigga. He get that from your mama side, nigga. GP asked the nigga, why are you sad? Asked the nigga why he's sad as fuck.
Starting point is 01:16:23 He said, he don't want to be sad, but he can't fix it. Niggas hoop professionally, bro. Why are you saying? Are you saying But I just flew in today. Oh God. I just got here. Just got here yelling at me. They gotta let us commentate the game, bro. They have to, bro. Holy shit, that would be so hard.
Starting point is 01:16:58 No, they have to let us, bro. We working on that, man. We got some big plans. We love the big three. Like, we was just there in Boston, bro. That's a beautiful, beautiful. Thank God we let y'all do that, man, we got some big plans. We love the big three. We was just there in Boston, bro. That's a beautiful, beautiful. Thank God we let y'all do that. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:09 That's the next step in the athlete podcast. Let the athlete fucking commentate. Let them commentate. And that's what, I mean, we ain't gonna talk about too much, but the Travis Kelce deal that people are talking about, it's more than just podcasting. That's, it's deep in the rap, especially with the new NBA licensing and things.
Starting point is 01:17:25 You're gonna see a lot of these people clean up their acts because everybody's bidding for next year. That makes sense. Everybody's bidding for their content. We gonna see who gonna win it. Listen man, power father, we appreciate you sliding on this man, tell the people where that collides right back at. You ain't gonna wrap up as soon as he do this.
Starting point is 01:17:42 He could give it a second. Damn, god damn. Listen, listen, he do this, you can give it a second. God damn. God damn. Listen, listen, listen. He got kids, man. God damn. No, when his wife sent him a text. We're just gonna go in. Shout out to Sierra, we got a gang.
Starting point is 01:17:57 Shout out to his wife for the fucks, it's crazy. No, I love Sierra. Oh, sweet. Freaky Mike. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 01:18:15 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 01:18:22 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Like when you was on Lil Yachty about his deal. He put Frankie Mike in the 360 deal. He's in the, what's that cap? Lock him up. That's my QC artist. Lock him up. Lock him up.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Lock him up. Hey, be here with the splits. I'm P. 92. I don't let you know, we appreciate y'all. Like, share, subscribe, all that good shit. We'll be back next time. Be here and tell them people
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