Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Josh Smith on MENTORING Anthony Edwards, playing with Jeff Teague, CRAZY NBA stories

Episode Date: November 18, 2024

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 8 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Josh Smith where the guys tell some LEGENDARY stories from his time in the NBA with the Atlanta Hawks, Detroit Pistons, Houston Rockets, and more. Josh talks about mentoring Anthony Edwards, convincing him to stay home and go to the University of Georgia to play college basketball, and now to becoming an NBA superstar for the Minnesota Timberwolves. Josh and Jeff talk about when they met for the first time, becoming teammates on the Atlanta Hawks, and much more! #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey, this is Kyle Brantz. You're busy. I'm busy. But every single Monday we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL, life, whatever. But never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brantz. Driving home from work? You got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break? You still smoke? You got time for 10 takes.

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I'm gonna empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast. Music is awesome.

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Story behind the Rumble in the Jungle is like a Hollywood movie. But that is only half the story. There's also James Brown, Bill Withers, BB King, Miriam Makeba. All the biggest black artists on the planet. Together in Africa. It was a big deal.

Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Volume. or wherever you get your podcast. The Volume. All right, man, we back. Another episode of Club 520 Podcast. I'm the host, my name is DJ Wells.

This is a special, special, special episode. You know what I'm saying? Full circle moment. We got a returning guest. We're gonna introduce my man's lives, but we live in Atlanta with it. To my far left, I got my dog, Bishop E. Henn, out the Prillies. How you doing, nasty? got my dog, bitch, to be here in out the Pearlies.

How you doing, nasty? Cool and nasty. This is gonna be a good one today, baby. Look how tall B-Hand is. You feel me? You feel me? I stand up and shit. Really?

That's what we all do. Listen, man, this a full circle moment for B-Hand. Tell the people what you got for us tonight, man. You got a little special gift for our guest, man. Definitely, you know what I mean? Josh brought us to the crib, so I had to present my boy with the, ooh, you feel me?

With the custom laces and the blade. Hey, one. Yes, sir. Yeah, you know what I mean? Shoes is off right now, we gotta respect the crib, but whenever you can throw them on, bro. Shout out to a former, retired D-Way Crash Out. You know what I'm saying?

I appreciate you, man. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying Crash Out. From a former to another former, man. The alumni know what we like to have. Nah, you love, gang. Appreciate you, man. That's crazy.

I've been on the podcast for a whole year. I ain't got a pair of black forces yet. I bought Jeff a while back for his birthday. The white ones with the black laces. I don't know what that mean. He in reverse, nigga. Paul, shit, that's crazy. Hey, be careful.

Paul, that's crazy. I'm gonna do this way. Paul's in the team. Paul, Paul's in the team. Tim, I'll write my dog, young Nacho, young Tig. How you doing, man? Man, I'm coolin'. I'm hype, bro.

Family done brought us to the crib. To the smith. Full circle moment. It's been a year, our first guest ever on the pod. So come back full circle moment. Like you said, I had my dog on the show. It's lit, bro. Man, like you said, full circle moment, man. It's been one year for us.

We had to spend a block, man. Our first guest, he pulled up to 5'20". The OG 5'20", man, rest in peace. So it's only right we pulled up to his crib, man. We got the A-Town Georgia legend, big smoo, Josh Smith, big dawg. Appreciate you sliding up. Actually let us slide on you, bro.

Love, man. Slide on me this time. Slide on me this time. Thanks, bro. Appreciate you letting us in your crib. You know, the way y'all let me pull up on y'all show last time, I got to return the favor. Yeah, thanks.

Man, love, listen, a lot has happened since then. You know what I'm saying? The first YouTube episode, we had you all messes, only right we spent a block with you. A lot has happened since, man. Listen, we ended has happened since that, you know what I'm saying? The first YouTube episode, we had you all, man. Since Only Right, we spent a block with you. A lot has happened since, man. Listen, we ended the last episode, you had a BMF story. Shit, a year later, Big Me is free. Free, man. And free thug, man.

Come on, man. Look, man, they free and the real. Free and the real. Hell of a weekend to let it be here, you know what I'm saying? Young Jeffrey free? Absolutely. Got the real Jeffrey tomorrow. The real Jeffrey. The real Jeffrey Got the real Jeffrey to my right.

Hold on, we need a letter, Jeffrey. I wish I had respect. What if Amazonica come out to the league? I think I've seen the reports. Allegedly. Allegedly, man. Allegedly. Allegedly.

Listen, man, so much to get to, but we gotta get here right straight. Listen, man, we had a crazy story a couple weeks ago, a wager between you two, so much to get to, but we gotta get here right straight, listen man, we, you know what I'm saying, had a crazy story a couple weeks ago, a wager between you two, you know what I'm saying, a little off the court activities, shout out to DJ. We would love to hear that story from your point of view,

man, T just talking about it a little bit, but you know what I'm saying, you was the facilitator in that situation, we would love to hear how that situation took place, man. Man, you know, first of all, shout out to DJ, DJ, Jackpot. My pot is still to this day um but you know uh at the time Bibi was on the team correct? Yep. And you know T wasn't really getting a whole lot of minutes you know I'm saying on the team you know he played here and there

and sometimes he didn't play so uh you you know, DJ is probably kind of, he's still upset about this situation. He's upset on how he transpired. Get well soon. It's okay, you know what I'm saying? Like you said, get well soon. On me. But, you know, like, I'm super hospitable.

So when you come to Atlanta, it's like really Southern hospitality when you my partner, you know what I'm saying? So as a, you know, as a, he was a football player. When you come to Atlanta, it's like really Southern hospitality when you my partner. You know what I'm saying? So as a, you know, as a, he was a football player. So when he came to Atlanta, I had a con, I used to have a condo. So it was over there by Lennox. I'm not going to say the address,, rest in peace, my homeboy,

Bill Terrivans, you should stay over there. So, you know, when he came in town, I give him a car and he could stay over there with his homeboys. It was like a little three bedroom, little condo. So he would come over, he would come over like during, what is it, like, bye weeks. All season.

All season stuff. So, you know, he came to a game, you know, so he's sitting courtside, bye weeks, all season stuff. So, you know, he came to a game, you know, so he's sitting course, you know, I gave him tickets. He looking at, he looking at T not playing. So, you know, he just probably eyeballing the last couple of guys, like in his mind, like the last guys like that they ain't really playing. Like he's like, oh, I got T.

So I'm like, no the fuck you don't bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I'm telling him, I'm like, he's like, Oh, I got T. So I'm like, no the fuck you don't bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I'm telling him, I'm like, no the hell you don't. Like you don't, you can't beat this nigga. You know what I'm saying? Like man, man gonna drag your ass. You know what I'm saying? So I'm basically taking up for my teammate.

You know what I'm saying? You my brother, you my partner. You know what I'm saying? You are my family. But you know, at this time T is like my rookie, you know what I'm saying? You are my family. But you know, at this time, T is like my rookie, you know what I'm saying? Like he's like my rookie, my young guy, I'm molding him to the game.

So I'm like, hell no. You know what I'm saying? So he like, man, back, yeah, back. Oh shit, we're back. Shit, we're back. You wanna get this, at this point it's like, okay, you wanna give away free money. Like this is free money. It's just like football.

You catch a little nigga in this prime that ain't playing, he might have just made the 50-man roster or something like that, whatever it is. And I'm sitting back like, man, why he don't never play? His journey, stay clean. I can score four out of five on him as a DB. I'm a wide receiver. I can score. Man, he going to be like DB. Like a wide receiver, I'm wide receiver. I can score, man, he gonna be like,

man, well, let's line it up then. You know what I'm saying? Okay, you wanna hand out free money? And then what people don't understand is, right, in today's society, in today's world, a lot of these guys don't gamble. You know what I'm saying? So, which is respectable, you know what I'm saying?

You know, it causes a lot of friction. You know, a lot of people don't want to pay sometimes when they see them different tabs going out. So, you know, like, so they try to avoid that type of atmosphere, you know what I'm saying? Which is okay. Well, we do gamble, I have to cut you off. We gamble with Draft Kings.

So, but, you know, George. So, but I'm saying like, you know, like back in the day, before, what is it called? DraftKings? Yeah. Okay, before DraftKings. Before DraftKings. Okay, you know what I'm saying?

Let's move in. Let's move in. They might be calling you. They might be calling you. They might be calling you. They gonna call you. So, what else? So, before all that, we was really gambling.

You know what I'm saying? Like hand to hand. Like bring in. Hand to hand. Hand to what I'm saying? Like, hand to hand. Like, bringing in, Hand to hand. Yeah, hand to hand combat. Hand to hand combat. You know what I'm saying? So like, hey look, from other,

look, he understands this stuff. So it was times where rest in peace shot it low. It was like, you know, he had a squad where, you know, he gambled and you know what I'm saying? And he came in town, see, he can't really be mad at this situation because it was another situation when they was playing video games, you feel what I'm saying?

And he was like, man, I'm finna, I'm finna gamble Shawty Low. I'm finna gamble Shawty Low and them in 2K mad. I'm like, don't do it. I'm finna gamble shot of low in them in 2K mad. I'm like, don't do it. I'm telling his ass like, cause he my partner. I'm like, look man, them folks got them, they got a nigga that got them ranked in the nation. You know what I'm saying?

You ain't got a nigga ranked in the nation, man. So they got them in business, you know what I'm saying? So they got this business. So he like, no, we gotta lie, cool, shit. So the next day I come over make a business, you know what I'm saying? So I had this business. So he like, no, we gotta lie, cool shit. So the next day I come over to the spot, it's quiet as a motherfucker, goddamn it. He on the laptop, trying to have the wire, you know what I'm saying?

Because that's another little incident. I was like, look, don't do it. You know what I'm saying? But you know, hey, he can't be mad at this situation for me wanting to get free money. Like, I didn't go down. So no one needs to be mad at no scenario. It was, it was just a scenario that happened.

You backed out, which was the smart thing to do. You know what I'm saying? Because somebody probably called your phone like, hey, look man, chill out. You know what I'm saying? I know, I know that's what probably really happened. You did your research on the big shirt, the big shirt, Wake Forest T.

You know what I'm saying? That would happen. You got in your bag on that Google. You know what I'm saying? So don't do that. Niggas said, nah, nevermind, I'm cool. Cause he crashed out with Meek Mill too when he had his artist versus Meek Mill orders.

Oh yeah. RIP to Yungstrader, I forgot his name, but. Lil Snoop? Yeah, Lil Snoop. I remember that was at the pool table. He was a gambler. Yeah, yeah. And Lil Snoop got his own ass.

And that's another dude that you claim was your mans in them. Yeah. It's shit different. But we love DJ. Nah, it's all love. But we love DJ. No, it's all love. It's all love. No, in fact, you my man. You my man, no, for real, I'm a real man.

Nah, it's all right. It cool, it's just funny. That was funny, man. It was just, you know, it was a funny story, you know? And you know, that's just, you know, it is what it was, but. The Emberist NBA Cup is here and you can win big. Getting in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA.

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Hey everyone I'm Madison Packer a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers. And on our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, we're opening up about the chaos of our daily lives between the juggle of being athletes, raising children, and all the messiness in between. We're also turning to fellow athletes and beyond to learn about their parenthood journeys and collect valuable advice,

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But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. women's sports. hiding in the bathroom at work. You got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Wasabi hot cloud storage. Store more and do more with your data. Try them for free at wasabi.com. What's up everybody, it's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season,

I'm gonna empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast. The music is awesome. Very good.

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Shout out to DJ, man. Shout out to DJ. Hey man, it's dope to see the growth of both of y'all. Obviously, you're in the past, TK cultural alma mater, you know what I'm saying? We can talk, bro, we just on YouTube. Oh yeah, you good? Whisper with a mic on.

Oh. It crazy, right? Ain't that games now, girl? Yeah, that's how you gotta do it. Stop. My mic still on? I'm just on. I'm good, though.

Hey, bro, we can edit. Yeah, we can edit. We can edit. We can edit. We can edit shit. We can edit. We can edit. Get back.

But you don't have to, though. We can edit, man can edit. We can edit. We can edit. You don't have to though. We can edit. Yeah, when you ain't on the Warr about niggas, you good. We can edit that. You know what I'm saying? Somebody was at the gate. You know what I'm saying?

I'm just trying to, you feel me. Had to explain to Castle for sure. Like we said, year full circle moment, man. Obviously, you've been on him since he was a rook. He being the head coach, our alma mater, you know what I'm saying, you had the dad dudes as a coach, especially with the AU programs. How was that transition like, you know what I'm saying?

Cause you guys talked about the daddy life, you got your, you know what I'm saying, shorty going to college now, got your kids in the program growing up for you. You know what I'm saying, probably getting to it. How is that going a year later for both of y'all, especially to see him being the head coach? I mean, it's just our transition.

You know, it just shows the world that we still love the game of basketball. Yeah. And we're willing to pass on pretty much free information. If he's a head coach at a high school, it's damn near free information. For sure. It's like, this is what I keep telling the parents

of my program. It's like, where you wanna get your kids to? You wanna get them to the NBA? Okay, cool. If you wanna get them to the NBA, it's like answers to a test. You know what I'm saying? Like we have the answers to the test.

That's right. So it's like, you wanna what I'm saying? Like we have the answers to the test. So it's like you're, you, you want to take a test blindly, not, not dealing with guys like me and T, you get what I'm saying? Or guys like Ray Jaun, Rondo and other guys like that, you know what I'm saying? So if it's guys that are willing to come down and really basically give you, it's not, it's like, it's costing us more give you, it's not, it's like, it's costing us more to be in a situation dealing with your kids and surrounding and putting them down on different information because it's not only about showing them the X's and O's and showing them how to be a basketball player. When they're around us, we're showing them how to be men too. You know what I'm saying? Like how to

carry themselves because that shit matters too. You know what I'm saying? If you listen to a lot of these pro athletes that are on these platforms, they'll tell you that the guys that were in their class that were the coldest, they didn't make it. You know what I'm saying? And they the ones that made it.

So what is that telling you? What is that telling you? So those played a part. Yeah. Like they was telling me that T brother was better than him. I was, I'm trying to, you know what I mean? So I'm like, you know, he's a great player. You know what I'm saying?

But you know, like those are big shoes to feel when you get to talk to them, talk to them different comparisons with guys that are ahead of you in life, you know what I'm saying? Like I got three sons. So I don't want nobody to say, okay, oh, Jed is better than Josh because it's like, shit. Not Josh is like, man, you got me fucked up.

You know what I'm saying? Like it's real talk, but it's not like, I know like when you get to that stage, when you have different sons, you teach them to let them know that they're not competing with each other as well. So. It's kind of like a healthy thing though,

cause when my people will say like, your brother is better, I'm like, shit, cool, he better than me. We about to be straight. That's why I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, cool. He can take a load off my shoulder.

Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, Lord, what he He can take a load off my show. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, Lord, Plinky's been there. Yeah, because people don't understand the pressure. Yeah. That like every year, like, a guy that makes it past, I'm gonna say six, seven years in the league,

you gotta respect that. You gotta respect that guy because, man, they printing a new him every year. That's a fact. They're printing a new him. I like how you said that. Like that's what people gotta understand. Like once they find out that you have something different,

they're trying to find you in another person because they know that they have to drop the bag on you and they don't wanna do it. You know what I'm saying? That's why like, just like Denver never be the same. You know what I'm saying? And that's because you lose guys like Contavious, Kyle Will, Pope.

You know what I'm saying? Like guys that can still play another eight years in this league at the pace that he's playing. Because all you're asking him to do is be a 3D. And he could be more, he's more capable player, but if you ask him to do that, that creates more longevity in his career. You know what I'm saying?

So it's like, it's kind of hard. And he's a hell of a floor spacer. So like- But they ruined that because like you said, they think they can find that in somebody else. Absolutely. Okay, the league is a copycat league, you know what I'm saying?

Which is probably like the NFL MLB too. Once they find out a guy, a team won it, NBA championship, that's the norm. Until they find out it's only one Steph Curry. It's the only fucking one Klay Thompson. Nah, hunnit. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, win the championship on how you gonna win it. You know what I'm saying?

Winning like, so they didn't learn that shit from the Lakers, you know what I'm saying? And when they had brought the white and Javel McGee in there and they seen that they needed those two guys in order to defeat Nicole Jokic. Then they won the championship. They felt like, okay, we could just get like two stale bigs in their eyes, like,

that can just rebound and we can basically make, you know, we can make puppets and we can get it done again. We don't gotta pay these guys. We ain't gotta pay these guys. They're too young guys that can do the same thing. I wanted to ask you, like, you had Ant, Anthony Edwards, for the people that don't know.

Absolutely. At a young age, how does it feel, bro, to see him where he at right now? Man, it feel amazing, man. Cause you had him as a youngster, bro. On the court, yeah. I mean, I caught him, like, you know, kind of his senior year in high school, but it was like, you know,

it was a lot of hats in the pot. You know, it was a lot of hands in that pot. You know what I'm saying? So when I got to him, I knew that, you know, all I could do was basically give him the information of, of like what he was facing, what he's about to face. You know what I'm saying? Like, um, it was just like from the, from the standpoint of, you know, like, bro, you're

going to be one of the faces of the NBA. You know what I'm saying? Like X, Y, and Z, like this is how you gotta handle it. Cause you know, he one of them trench babies. See what people understand is like, he can really have a, he can really like make some money off of his story. He got a hell of a story.

Think his mom passed away when he was like 13, 14 years old. Father really never, never been around. And then, and then like, you know, his, his sister and his brother had to raise him. And then you got to imagine they was like 18, 19 years old. Yeah, ain't too much older. So he's, he's, he's 13. So the decision that he's making in life, you can't fault him for it because he's figuring out

the shit pretty much on his own. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I know he's been going viral and a lot of like different things in his off the court life but you can't fault him. You know what I'm saying? Like the man is really like figuring out how to be a man on his own.

You know what I'm saying? How did you discover him though? Like how he come across your path? You know, like the NBA, like I said, I wanted to get into coaching. I know you say you're a high school coach. I'm a, I'm a ADU coach. And you know, I want to do, I want to do college and pros,

but right now I'm cool with this. I got a couple of guys that are really special right now. So I wanna kind of like lock in with that. But I was at the top 100 camp, you know that? So I was at the top 100 camp and then he was like, I wanna say a sophomore going to be a junior and he just destroyed the camp. Like he was from Atlanta.

He looked like the best kid there. Like guys that was like already seniors and all that. And then that's when, that summer, that's when he got that traction. So that's when he reclassified up. So when he reclassified up. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that. He reclassified up. So when he reclassified up. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah, a lot of people don't know that he reclassified up.

He moved up, yeah. He moved up. I don't know if he reclassified back. And then went back to early. That's what Cooper Flag did though. That's what Cooper Flag did. Nah, 100%. You'll never see a 17U highlight from Cooper Flag.

No, you won't. Because he was kicking niggas asses at 16. Nah, really. Cooper Flag. No, I'm just. So don't get it twisted. So, um. I didn't know that either. Yeah, so, so, so yeah. So, so, you know, he reclassified up off of the,

you know, the traction he gained from that summer cause he destroyed the summer. Yeah. And he reclassified up and then he went to a school right down the street from my house. And I would just basically kind of like, give him information on what to expect future-wise. Because I'm always thinking like five years,

10 years ahead of the curve. Like that's my problem. Like I'm not always living in the moment. You know what I'm saying? I'm always thinking about. What not always living in the moment. You know what I'm saying? I'm always thinking about. What's next? What's next? You know what I'm saying?

10 years, you know what I'm saying? Five, 10 years. I'm always thinking, that's how I think. That's how I break down life. You know what I'm saying? Like I know like, you know, YOLO and all that stuff, but it's like, hey man, look, I get it. You know what I'm saying?

But I'm trying to live for tomorrow, just in case it happens. You know what I'm saying? But I'm trying to live for tomorrow, just in case it happens. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm that type of individual. So I was, you know, I was, I was just kind of, you know, putting them down on that information. He's a guy that's thriving right now. I knew that he was going to be one of the faces of the NBA.

What people don't understand is, what people don't know is he was gonna be one of the faces of the NBA. What people don't understand is, what people don't know is he was committed to Florida State and I kind of let him understand the importance of going to Georgia. Being around his family, you know what I'm saying? You need to stay locked in. I didn't get a dime from that, you know what I'm saying? I'm a Georgia fan so I I kind of like, allegedly.

No, no, no, that ain't allegedly. That ain't allegedly. No, that's a stable, man. That's a fact. This is a fact. This is a fact. I ain't gonna never take no lie. If I'm blind, I'm flying.

You know what I'm saying? I wish. I wish. I wish. I wish. I wish. I wish. You know what I'm saying?

I wish. I wish. I wish. I wish. I wish. I'm standing this shit too now, you know what I'm saying? That's what really happened. So I just wanted to see the Georgia basketball organization get back on their feet. So they back to being on something that I can brag about now, but what he did was he did some trailblazer shit. So a lot of people are known for going

to different organizations and different schools because of the name, but you know, he did the right thing. Yeah, I just wanted you to speak on that cause you was a big staple in his career, like his career path, bro. So for sure. And something interesting you say, you said, always living in a moment, think about what's coming next. And even though people had a feelings about it, but you always adjust it. Like you say, all right, if I'm a plan to see going forward,

I gotta be able to stretch the floor. And that's something he always spoke about earlier. Yeah. That's why I was shooting the motherfucking threes. You know what I'm saying? Josh, pass the ball, Josh! No, I didn't do that. That you never tell him. You know what I'm saying?

Look, T was a scoring guard, so that's what people don't understand. That's why he used to have to get on his ass. You know what I'm saying? Look, man, check that motherfucker back. Cause he was an athletic-ass guard, so once I, look, I was sitting the screen to get me the ball back.

You know what I'm saying? So, after the game. He would be like, slip out, hell nah. Look, I'm finna sit, look, I was sitting the screen to get me the ball back. You know what I'm saying? So, they would be like, slip out, hell nah. Look, I'm finna sit, look, I used to be brawling against the head on the screen, like, then I'm finna lean it, look. Watch how Draymond Green said screen. That's how he used to say screen.

Down there illegal. Yeah. Every screen was down there illegal. I'm moving into some shit. Cause Josh trying to get that pill back. I'm wanting the pill. I'm wanting the ball. He forcing a double.

See what, T, can you contest that 90% of the offense was ran through Joe Johnson? I was trying to get that pill back. I want the pill. I want the ball. He forcing a double. T, can you contest that 90% of the offense was ran through Joe Johnson? Oh, definitely. All right, then. So shit. So then, you got to understand, 7% was out of warfare. You know what I'm saying?

That means it was like a little bit left. What is that, 3%? I need that. No, we was fighting for that 3%. It ain't I need it, it's like shit. How can I get this shit? That 1.5. Poutine, me, you know what I'm saying?

Marlon Williams, you know what I'm saying? And Jamal too, that's tough. Oh shit, that was crazy. You know what I'm saying? So we already knew when Jamal came in, he cutting the percentage in half. He like, niggas, nah, 50% is me. I already scanned the room.

I already scanned the arena. You folk gotta know I'm Hooper. Nah, for sure. You folk gotta know I take the shots, man. I'm shooting shots, man. How you feel about the young generation growing up? You in the AAU world now, do you think it's like a, I don't know,

like a gap between like the NBA and the youngsters, like so far it's like the, where they learning from, like the learning curve. Absolutely. It's a lot of bad basketball, man. Yeah. It's a lot of bad basketball and, my son, Carl, you know what I'm talking about?

You good? We good? Nah, you know what I'm talking about. That's all right. That's family shit. It's all right, you're good. All right, okay. It's a lot of bad basketball, man. And to overcompensate the bad basketball,

parents are reclassifying their kids thinking that that is the answer. You know what I'm saying? And then what they don't understand is, is that it's an over saturation and kids working your kids out, trainers. You know what I'm saying? Speaking on the GIF and the curse though.

I don't know if I spoke on this. The GIF and the curse is that the trainer is available. You know what I'm saying? The curse is, is it translating? Is what I'm showing your kid translating to the court? You know what I'm saying? Because in reality, all of these trainers are training these kids to over dribble.

And they can't, like, I swear, I swear, like, I bet T could go to his practice and it's no more ones and twos no more. Like, I went to my son's practice and I loved the decision that I made in taking him to this school and his developing because the coach is so detailed, but it's sad because he's happened to go to seven

and saying twos and threes instead of ones and twos. Cause you motherfuckers can't go to my house. Cause they too busy goddamn dribbling they motherfucking life away. They dribbling they fucking life away. And then they can't shoot threes. And then, you know, because they can't shoot threes. And then when they get to the hole,

they can't make layups. So it's like, it's like, it's showing the kid like, damn, I really need to work on my game. Yeah, y'all doing twos and threes and sevens. I need to work on my game now. Now, I'm gonna put you that, like the reclass situation. Yeah, I want you to speak on that. It only works, middle school, elementary school.

So when? Now, like come on, let's be honest, like, I got an eye, bro, like you got an eye too. So you know what these recruiters are looking at. You know what these scouts are looking at. What's your mom and daddy height look like? Why you holding these kids back and you know these motherfuckers are going to be five-five? You know they're going to be six and girls. This is a real game. Where's the six in girls? You got six in girls?

And he a boy. You know what I'm saying? He can't get no bike for himself. He can't get no bike for himself. He can't get no, man. He can't get the D1 crash outs. Nah, for sure. He can't get the D1 crash outs.

So we trying to figure it out, man. We just trying to. That's a fact. So what's the, okay, so I got you. Like, so say you got a six, four, 12 year old. Yeah. Are you gonna reclassify him lower? Well, no. If he's sad though, if he's fucking garbage, Josh.

Look, jump in that deep end. Jump in that deep end and learn how to swim. Yeah, give him the game, Josh. Cause shit, you wanna always play in the shallow end? Females don't like niggas that play in that deep end and learn how to swim. Yeah, give them the game, Josh. Because shit, you wanna always play in the shallow end? Females don't like niggas that play in the shallow end, splashing and shit. They like niggas that still be in the deep end. They like niggas that should deep in that...

They want a nigga jumping at 13 feet. Hey, that's a joke. They want a nigga, yo, stop it. They want a Michael Phelps. So we gonna learn how to swim or not, little nigga? I just want you to get the game, my nigga. We gonna let DJ do his job, but I just want you to get a game, my nigga. We gonna let DJ do his job, but I just want you to get a game. I want you to get a game.

I'm just saying though, man, is you gonna jump in the deep end or not? Like, you gotta learn how to swim. That's an analogy. Don't get too far deep into what I just said on some freaky shit. Just think about what we're talking about. We're talking about basketball. We talking about basketball. We talking about basketball. It's like, my son now, right?

He's six five. He in the 10th grade. That man was like Bambi legs. Like it was like Bambi. Like it was like raising Bambi. You like, it was like, I had to create real patience in my life. I'm like, damn, do he really want to play basketball?

But he wanted to play. He just wasn't me at the time. Like, you life. I'm like, damn, do he really wanted to play basketball? But he wanted to play. He just wasn't me at the time. Like, you know what I'm saying? All of, like, our kids are different. You know what I'm saying? They raised different. They're, they're, they come from different like circumstances. So it's a different type of field.

Like them, them, them, them YNs popping they shit. They like, hey man, broke ass nigga man. All right, hey man. Oh nigga nigga man, all right, hey man. My nigga, hey, my dad will put me up right now in the X-Plane motherfucker. What you all, what, my dad, man, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey dad, hey dad, T, little hey man, pull up in that goddamn six,

that motherfucker, the Mercedes motherfucker. Yeah, the Maybach. Yeah, pull up in that. Yeah, come on man. Mike's on, it's like, yo son, Yeah, pull up in that. Yeah, come on, man. Mike's on, it's like, yo, yo, yo, yo son. Man, pull up in the... Man, stop all that cash, man. He got 520 is popping out.

He gonna do that shit in season one. He gonna do that shit on season one, man. Let's move. They want you to look, look. This is what your seat gonna change. That's the man now. That's the man now. Everybody think they got a new whip, though.

The man you ordered from Nobu, Atlanta, man. You know what I'm saying? The man placed an order from Nobu, Atlanta, man, though. Don't play with the rich baby, man. So he had a rich baby. So it's like, at this point, you know, they popping it different, you know what I'm saying? So you got to kind of reel it in, you know, they popping it different. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta kind of reel it in, you know, a little bit and let them know that you, you know,

you still want to raise a, you know, a humble individual. But you know, it's kind of hard because it's like, man, how can you raise a humble individual when number one, he has your blood in you? So imagine when you didn't have nothing, you still were popping it. You know what I'm saying? You still was popping imagine when you didn't have nothing, you still were popping it. You know what I'm saying? You still was popping it when you had nothing.

Now this is like a 2.0 of you. You know what I'm saying? And he had it. Yeah. So you know. Listen, we're going to talk about the Detroit days. But I got to ask both of y'all this question. Shout out to my dog, JG, for asking me this.

Y'all remember the time when Woody shaved his eyebrow and tried to put the fake one on? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. For the press conference? Yes, yes. I didn't remember that.

That was our fan question of the week. You remember that when we used to rip his, see people don't usually know, we used to rip that, we used to rip that, we used to rip that dry fit off. Yeah. That motherfucker used to rip that dry fit off.

Wait, what? That man had a dry fit, he used to have the dry fit shirts, he used to break that thing down, he used to rip that motherfucking off. Wait, what? A man had a dry fit. He used to have the dry fit shirts. He used to break that thing down. We should rip that motherfucking off. He had Austin Powers. He's a little, Woody had, Woody got that Austin Powers. He got that shit, hey man.

You gonna break that shit. Why you wasn't talking about? Hey man, Indiana, hey, hey look. Y'all ain't looking. Shine on the Indiana, man. You know what I'm saying? I was supposed to go there. I was supposed to go there.

What's this? You know the NIL bag. It wasn't the same. It wasn't the same. It wasn't the same. No, he had the LHT. He had the LHT. He had the little Hawks.

This is my Hawks dry fit Reebok. These were that, which ever sponsor did, and I was Nike. So rip that thing. They used to just rip your shirt off. Used to rip that shit off. He used to leave practice looking like. He was like, all right. It was like a text. It was like a text. All right, y'all to just rip your shirt off. Used to rip that shit off. He used to leave the practice looking like, all right, it was like a text, like,

all right, y'all stop ripping the coat shirt off. I'm like, shit, I did it. That shit right there. The white boy Woody Band. He used to look like a lot of attempts after the brawl. You were the one. What happened with his eyebrows?

They say he shaved it off, but then he tried to put a fake one off on the press coverage. No, what happened was, he a cigar smoker, you know what I'm saying? So what happened was he had one of them flame cigars. because he was, he a cigar smoker, you know what I'm saying? So what happened was he had one of them flame cigars. So he bent down and then he tried to like,

you feel me, he tried to hit the flame and it just went crazy. And it caught one of them. And it caught one of them, boom, blew it off. The flame blew it off, right? So then he couldn't go with the one, he couldn't go with the one motherfucker, you know what I'm saying?

So he had to... So then like, you know, I got a sense of humor, you know what I'm saying? So what I did was I cut the Velcro, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, man, we gonna just put the Velcro on your ass, you know what I'm saying? Boom, boom, see it's just like, but the technology gonna just put the Velcro on your ass. You know what I'm saying? Boom, boom.

See, it's just like, but the technology is so bad, the picture fucked up, you know what I'm saying? Cause I think it was Flip, but we just started getting from Flip to the real iPhone. So this shit was just bad. It was a good time for him, bad time for us though. But our stories are amazing though. I love our stories cause it's like, imagine it.

Now we used to talk, we had Bibi on the show. We used to talking about how you and him used to mess with Mo. Oh my God. Yeah, y'all in that nigga's club. Y'all returned to True's. That nigga is funny, bro. He is a definition of a frugal nigga.

That nigga used to, that nigga did not, that nigga, man. I don did not, that nigga, man. I don't even know if that nigga true. I gotta say it, bro, I gotta say it. I'm gonna edit this shit out of that. Nah, we keep it. Okay, look man, he was so broke, he let it, I mean, so cheap, not broke, he was cheap at the time.

Yeah, he was cheap. He let that girl go in the T-Pain music video. Y'all like, Atlanta fucked up. What is it? I'ma buy you a drink. I told you I'd give it to you in the garage. Come on. What the fuck the movie?

Damn, man. What was the fucking music video? What was the music video? I'm gonna shout in the moment. I'm gonna shout in the moment. I ain't saying cat, but what was the music video? Bro, tap in. I said, bro, I said can you give me was that video? Bro, tap in! I said, bro, I said, give me the garage code.

Bro, uh, shit, uh. They buy you to drink it. We gonna give you, we gonna buy you to drink, fuck it. I'm gonna take you home with me. I got a man in the same. Whoa, that was it! That was it, that was the one. That was the one. That was the one. That was the one.

That nigga was cheap, man. That nigga wear the same jeans, bro. She bad nigga, man. With the yarn on her back. He was waiting for Willis and Walgreens to pop in. Did he have the Willis and Walgreens on? Yup. Man's coming to the motherfucker with them wide bodies.

Man had the wide bodies. Bald head motherfucker. See, I used to fuck with him because he had no mustache. No, I didn't. I used to fuck with him because I'm like, man I used to fuck with him because I'm like, man. You remember that joke? He joked all day, man. I cannot trust a nigga without a mustache.

Where's your stache? It's like the comic nigga. Where the fuck is your stache at, man? He played too much. I was telling him that I used to throw paper and shit at Woody while he was doing the pregame speech and shit. No, man. I used to do a little something.

Yeah, I used to do that. I gotta play with these stories, man. The stories that you put out, I watch this shit every day. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, damn. You remember Phil Jackson, that shit with Phil Jackson, don't you?

Yes, man. I'll see you later, bro. Yeah. Oh. All right, that was probably my problem. I'm a playful nigga man, but I'm a loyal nigga though. So like teammate wise, I'm going to be a hell of a teammate. I might talk some shit now a little bit, but like when T was, when T was my, when he was young, I bought him some suits. You know, remember Wayne, I niggas, the five, six suits,

you know what I'm saying? Like- Bought me a G-Shock, iced out G-Shock. Yeah, iced out G-Shock. We'll go to places, wherever we travel, we'll catch some lunch, you know what I'm saying? We'll chop it up. Like, I would just, you know what I'm saying?

I don't know, like Antoine Walker was my veteran, you know what I'm saying? I don't know, like Antoine Walker was my veteran. You know what I'm saying? So Walker. So shout out to him, man. He um. Showed you the ropes. Man, he showed me the ropes, man. He showed me what to do and what not to do.

What's crazy is, like he was my vet, but I didn't realize niggas like only two years older than me. Right. I used to be like, he on, you know what, fella? And then one day he like, yeah, I'm 23. What the fuck? You might already did a four years in the league. When you got there.

Yeah, yeah. And he was like, that was my bet. We damn near the same age. I'm like, hell no. So we became like big brother, little brother. We'd argue all the time. I'd be like, man, fuck that. It was definitely an argument.

What made you gravitate towards T though? Like, you know what I'm saying? He was our point guard of the future. Yeah. And shout out to Bibi. I love Bibi, but I just knew like, T was more like, of the little nigga I needed.

You know what I'm saying? Cause he gonna play a little defense. He gonna pop his shit. At the beginning. In the beginning, yeah, yeah. You know, you gotta saying? Cause he gonna play a little defense. He gonna pop his shit. At the beginning. In the beginning, yeah, yeah. You gotta get, you gotta look. You gotta look at it, man. You gotta call before you walk.

The only script that is, the only script that is, you gotta act for the money. You gotta act like you wanna do some shit. You gotta play it, man. All that script shit, all that. It was planned, no nigga. Look man, what you want me to,

what role you need me to play? Look man, look man, I'm starring in this movie and I need to play the hell of a role. If I don't play this fucking role, man, it's another nigga that can play this role. Like, it's not about, you think somebody is gonna play that long, that much basketball, to think, oh, they gonna hand you a script when you get drafted.

Like, all right, now look, this is how it's gonna go for the next five years. No, shit, you gonna fall into this role of this team, or your ass is grass, my nigga. Like, that's the point, you grass, or you gonna fall into this role. It's simple. Yeah. I ain't gonna lie, but I appreciate you

cause you ain't falling into the role. Like you'd be like, fuck that shit. Yeah, I definitely did man. But you know, that's why I'm 13. That why I was 13 years and out of that motherfucker. Yeah. Nah, that's good. That's why I was no f**kers though.

And you was a killer. I'm thankful that I played 13 years, but you know, like, I knew that I had something that they needed. You know what I'm saying? I just didn't have Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. They could just shoot the leather off that motherfucker. Like I had a nigga that could get to the paint,

dunk on a nigga, light tee, and the straps, play some defense. That nigga was playing defense when he was young. He was playing some defense. You know what I'm saying? You know what the nigga was? You know what the nigga was? Thirsty, you a thicc thicc nigga.

You know what I'm saying? He was thirsty for the hoes, but he was thirsty for the show. He wanted the show. After over a year. I wanted the show. I wanted the show, bro. No, he wanted the show, man. He never wanted the hoes.

He wanted the show. I'm telling you. Now, that shit gonna come. All that shit gonna come on the back end. But his necessity was, how do I get Bibi out of this motherfucker? I don't know what to say. Get Bibi the fuck out of here.

Okay, you don't wanna play fucking defense? Cause look, we used to have, look, we used to talk shit, bro. Like we used to watch film, talk shit on the plane. And niggas like, man, goddamn, Bibi you gonna play fucking defense today? Bibi was like, shit, that didn't bring me here to wild young with my defense.

He said, shit, they brought me here to shoot that motherfucker. He said, shit, Josh, get my back. He was like, shit, you can blow past me, block his shot. I'm like, damn nigga. All right, bro, all right, bro. Who was your, we didn't get to ask you that when we first had the OG episode. Who was your like, damn nigga. All right, bro, all right, bro. Who was your, we didn't get to ask you that when we first had the OG episode.

Who was your like, person that grabbed you like, nah nigga, I'm gonna bring you in and show you how to do this shit for real. Bebe. Bebe? Bebe, Bebe, Bebe. Yeah, like Bebe, man, like, when I got snubbed a couple of times for the All-Star game,

man, he was like, man, fuck that shit, Josh. Cause I thought he made it All-Star one time. He was like, I ain times for the All-Star game, man. He was like, man, fuck that shit, Josh. Cause I thought he made the All-Star one time. He was like, I ain't making the All-Star. He was like, man, fuck that shit, Josh. He was like, as long as they pay you like All-Star, that's what matters. Right up. He's like, that's what matters.

Nah, he said, shit, do that shit. That's going to make them pay you like All-Star. So I'm like, I got you. You know what I'm saying? I got you. And then it was other little things, you know what I'm saying, they used to tell me. And you know, I was kind of stubborn sometimes,

but there was certain people that were like, I'm a sponge. I'm still a sponge to this day. Like I wanna learn, wanna learn new things. I wanna learn everything on how to like do everything the right way. So I used to listen to him and Mike Bibby probably was the first one. Antoine Walker, he was like half of my rookie year.

So I can't give him that credit. It got to be Mike Bibby for sure. He was one of the best people to be around. Like even with me, like I had to pick him up credit, it gotta be Mike Bibby for sure. No. Bibby was one of the best people used to be around, like even with me. Like I had to pick him up on, go to Lucky Lounge and shit. That was my guy. But y'all all took me in. That's why I love y'all so much.

That's why I wanted to always interview everybody that was on that team. Y'all used to bring me in, even like you when y'all popcorned my car and shit. That nigga was a sport ass rookie though, but that nigga was not doing shit. He said if we're dames, we should go crazy. Yeah, niggas show me hella love. Niggas show love, but niggas is not doing shit. I'm not gonna lie, I got that nigga.

You know how it's like a nigga that got a son that got that fucking fluffy ass hair, you're like, I can't wait till you do something, I'm gonna cut that shit. I can't wait till you disrespect me. I'm cutting that motherfucker. He got a smudge cut early. So what? they got a son that got that fucking fluffy ass hair. I can't wait till you do something. I'm gonna cut that shit. I can't wait till you disrespect me. I'm cutting that motherfucker. He had a smudge cut early.

So this was two years older than me, two or three years older than me. So when he talked to me, he like, hey, make sure you have them donuts tomorrow, nigga. I'm like, man, what the fuck? I can't. See what, nigga, can I tell you what my job was? Yeah, go ahead.

All right, I couldn't go to no clubs. You feel what ahead. All right. I couldn't go to no clubs. You know what I'm saying? Like I couldn't go to no clubs, dog. So I had to have the KY Jelly in the condoms. You know what I'm saying? That was my job. See, you were Rufus back in the day. He said Rufus.

Oh shit, Rufus. Oh shit. Oh, this little ass nigga can't go nowhere. Look, so boom. It's three, four in the morning everywhere we go, I mean that motherfucker, I mean we're snowing. Yeah. They like, brrrr, hey man, boom, woo, woo, woo,

bring your ass. So I'm like, I'm getting a crust on my eyes, like coming at motherfucker like, here man, boom. You know what I'm saying? Like sometimes they'll let the girl answer the door, grab the shit, butt naked, sometimes they like, here man, boom. You know what I'm saying? Like, sometimes they'll let the girl answer the door, grab the shit, butt naked. Sometimes they like, yeah. I'm telling you man, this is shit man.

Man, look man, the stories of like, this is the life bruh. You know what I'm saying? Like, man, look, man, look, man, the wearing chair is worth it. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Man, come on man, what are we doing? Man, come on, man. What are we doing? Come on, man. Since we speaking of letters, we got to talk about, man, how you got Ivy Johnson on the team, man.

Even though the team let him go, he was, for the reasons why, he was still a letter off. Shout out to my nigga, the real 40. The real 40. The real 40. He was throwing on, that nigga had the football going. Oh, mama. Hell nah, look, man. Look. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. You made zero. No, he made zero.

Yeah, he made zero for sure. Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I won my first challenge. I swear to God, Ivan Johnson is the reason why I bought my first challenger.

You made zero, man. You made zero. Nah, he made zero. Yeah, he made zero for sure. Ivan Johnson is the reason why I bought my first challenger. Yeah, he made zero. Oh my God. That's a fact.

I swear to God, that's a fact. He might be the first one to got there, you know, to start the trend, though. Yeah, he's the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got that motherfucker deal, boy. I'm in. All right, I'm in.

Yes, sir. The first crash out of the NBA. I'm in, I'm in. Yes, sir. The first crash out of the NBA. The first D1 crash out. Oh, he a D1 crash out of the NBA. International, now he an international crash out. International plus D1. Now, but give us the game on how you like him save his career though, for that stint.

Started really in the NBA. It was like, what people don't know, we had a guy named Mario West. Mm-hmm. And number six. So we were talking to him, Greasy. This nigga had a gooseneck jumper. It was like one, it was crazy.

Like, it was like, so we was like, he had a hell of a camp. So it's always like, when you go to camp, it's always like one when you go to camp, it's always like one dude that's gonna make the team that's not on the team. It depends on how he handles it, how well he plays when his name is called,

different things, you know what I'm saying? So he fit all the modes. Like Mario fit all the modes. He was a great, great teammate. Like play hard defensively. All these things. So that's why he made it. You know what I'm saying?

Like, Alva Johnson was the total opposite. This nigga was just a good basketball player. This nigga was gangster. This nigga was gangster. I never knew a digger. This nigga was just a good basketball player. This nigga was gangster. This nigga was gangster. I never knew a nigga, I never knew a nigga existed in San Antonio until I met this nigga.

You know what I'm saying? I was like, oh, there's some hood in San Antonio. Gotta be sure. Cause he was the first nigga that came in the league with a grill. And when I tell you, he was tearing niggas' asses up in camp in my line team. He was tearing niggas' asses up.

Niggas was scared, niggas was drooling. Like, you know, like you want a nigga that like, come on bro, this is the last fight. How bad do you want it? This nigga got them foaming at the mouth for this last shit, you know what I mean? This is elbowing, this is defense. So I'm like, boy, we gotta have this dude.

We gotta have this guy. So they cut the nigga, cause they was like kind of fear for the nigga. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I lied and shit. Like I got him under, I got him. I got him. I got him.

I got him. That's the job responsibility. Yeah, I got him. You know what, I got him. True. That's Josh's responsibility. Yeah, I got him. You know what I'm saying? Hell nah. Nigga, I just want y'all to sign this nigga. You know what I'm saying? Nah, for sure.

Nigga, this is y'all responsibility. This nigga, oh! What the fuck you talking about? Nigga, I got kids now, nigga. This nigga, this nigga's a crash out. He was a D1 crash out. That nigga was like. He was a D1 crash out.

He was like, hey, fuck what school he went to. That's what school he went to, D1, crash out. He was like. He was a D1 crash out. Fuck what school he went to. That's what school he went to. D1, crash out. Crash out university. I was like Ivan man, not gonna make it. He came showed up. I said, oh shit. But showed up anyway.

Showed up like I'm here. Yeah. And Smoot was like, nah, he supposed to make the team bro. Fuck with that man. He was like, nah, he killed bro. He supposed to be on this team. Then when he got on the team, was you on the plane with Jason Collins?

Was it? No, not Jason Collins. John, John, what was it? Oh, who was on our team? Oh my God. One of the twins. The twins. Yes it was.

Jason, Jason. Jason. Yeah, Jason. You remember Jason, he was like, Oh my God. He go with the nigga. He go with the nigga. He was like, Jason from like, he googled the nigga. He googled the nigga.

He was like, Jason from like, he from Stanford. So you know, he like, professional white university. He like, they're gonna google. So we needed to, he googled, he googled his ass. Boom, googled. Yeah, he knocked the riff out. Do you see this? He's back from Japan.

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so I had my press conference and I came back like a week later. And then all the guys was kind of around at that time. Smooth came up to me and I came back like a week later and then all the guys was kind of around at that time. Smooth came up to me and I was hanging out with Marvin at this time and Smooth came to me and he like, hey man, what you gonna do man? That's what she's talking about. He's like, man I'm from here man. I know what the fuck going on bro. I'm like, wait, I couldn't really understand it. I'm from, they like, what's going on, bro? What the fuck you doing, bro? I'm like, y'all, what's the meaning? He like, look, man, you doing wrong shit, man.

I'ma show you what the fuck going on. You're going out with me tonight, bro. Mark was kind of pie, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, pie is lame. So, you know, we're like, no, shout out to Mark. You know what I'm saying? Look, y'all like, shout out to Mark. No, we love Mark. It really like, you know, Mark and like, no, South of the Marble, you know what I'm saying? Look, y'all like to do that. South of the Marble. But I love the Marble.

It really like, you know, North Carolina whooped them. They went on to whoop that baby. Yeah. So, it's like, her had to come here and like, hey man, look, this is a player's league. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go from coaches league to players league. You know what I'm saying?

Like, colleges are coaches league, NBA is a players league. So, come on man, look. Hey man, look, you hanging out with the wrong one, you know what I'm saying? Like colleges is a coaches league, NBA is a players league. So come on man, look, hey man, look you hanging out with the wrong one man. You know what I'm saying? Like this man, this man gonna show you, you know what I'm saying? He gonna show you some cap, he gonna show you how to read a book.

You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna show you. I'm sure I had to read these hoes. Yeah. I was like, hey that's what we mean. The real preseason. The real mentor. The real mentor. Cause we stepping into professionalism. Yeah. That's what we mean. Real precision training. You know what I'm saying?

The real mentor. Because we stepping into professionalism. Yeah. Everybody's a professional. You know what I'm saying? Everybody's a professional. The scammers, you know what I'm saying? To the women, to the financial advisor, to the agents.

We're stepping into professionalism, man. Let me get you up to speed on this shit so you won't be out here looking crazy. Cause you a product of me. You feel what I'm saying? Actually, you a product of me. I can't have you out here looking crazy. That was the real shit.

Cause I told him the story when I came in, it's my rookie year. I came in with a girl to the club and they pulled me to the side. You put your arm around me, you said, listen, y'all fella, everybody know her. I said, what you mean? He said, look around.

Everybody know her. I said, damn. Take them by the trail. I was like, why would she still say that? We always talking about the last thing on the train. My man's new. We're not even going to talk about the teammate. We're not even going to talk about the teammate.

We're not even going to about the teammate. We're not even gonna talk about the teammate. We're not even gonna discuss the teammate in this situation. So my man's, my man's, so it levels everything. So like, and this is what's wrong with these females today. These niggas is getting too much money too early. So it's like, you know, when I came in the league, it was, oh, I ain't fucking with your young ass.

You ain't got, cause it was the paper. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? It was the paper. So I'm like, I never knew. Oh, you cute, but I can't fuck with you. It was levels. So then boom, when I got to this level,

okay, I had access to, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, I understood it ain't got shit to do with me. That's it. I'm bigger than this shit bigger than me. You feel what I'm saying? This shit is bigger than me. You know what I'm saying?

So what I wasn't gonna allow my nigga to do was **** that my pocket was ****. Shout out to Josh for being a real nigga. Look, what my name is? What the freak nigga? What the freak? Freaky Mike. Freaky Mike.

Freaky Mike. He can answer your ****. Freaky Mike, he can answer this shit. Freaky Mike, if he want to. Nah, I'll say it. Shout out to Luis. Shout out to Freaky Mike. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's short aura.

They gotta talk to Freaky. Yeah. So anyway, so. So Jim walk into the club. Jim walk into the club, I'm like, boo boo boo, you know what I'm saying? Yes. Look, fuck you bitch.

You know what I'm saying? Cause fuck you, funky bitch. This my man. Right. I'm gonna throw to the club like, boop, boop, boop, boop. You know what I'm saying? Look, fuck you bitch. You know what I'm saying? Cause fuck you funky bitch, this my mans. Right. I'm gonna throw your ass under bus, bitch. You a speed bump. I'm gonna throw you right up under that motherfucker, boop. Cause I can't wait to have my mans looking like a player. Cause you a player.

You was a real player, bro. So Josh, we here now. I know y'all, we all over the place. This family talk, we just rambling. Yes sir, we positive. We can bring it'all, we all over the place. This family talk, we just rambling. But- We could bring it back together. With Mike. No, I'm sure.

Nah, for sure. We gonna end this. Oh, I love this. Yeah. Not yet, not yet, not yet. So what game, what game do you have for the youngin', the 22, 23 year old, getting two, 300 million. And he's dealing with the, say he's in a,

cause ain't no nigga in Utah getting no Kushi rule. But I'm talking about the youngin getting 300 million in LA, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas. But I'm just saying, those are the premier, you know, just stay focused, kid. Lock in, kid. Lock in. Just lock in. That's what I'm saying, man. Yeah. Keep the main thing the main thing. That's basketball. Yeah. Right?

When they want to talk about politics, bring that shit back into basketball. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody cares about what your personal thoughts are. You know what I'm saying? And what I got to say about this mental health shit, can I say it? I'm not saying that you're not going to get a job. You're not going to get a job.

You're not going to get a job. You're not going to get a job. You're not going to get a job. You're not going to get a job. Like nobody cares about what your personal thoughts are. You know what I'm saying? And what I gotta say about this mental health shit, can I talk about that? Go crazy, go crazy. Bro, stop admitting to that shit because they gonna write your fucking ass off. Stop admitting to it.

On me. If you admit, like the only reason that a black kid that makes it to the NBA is mental health is because they're there because, they're not there because of basketball. We there because of basketball. You have mental health because people are walking past you, not asking for an autograph.

Or these females are not, they're not accessible like they used to be. Or the internet fucking with your brain. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, I saw that. So like that's where your mental health kicks in at. You're not really mental health. Lock in, lock back in, man.

Find your purpose. I mean, but some people deal with some traumas from like childhood and- From basketball? Nah. How do you get that far? And then now it's mental health. Like real people go through that stuff.

Nah. Like real people go through, like I get it okay, if you've been molested, right? Yeah. If you've been like certain things, like you know, mama raised you, daddy wasn't around or vice versa. Like I understand.

You don't think that play a part in like your life as a basketball player? How did you make it? I mean, some people just talented. But I'm saying how did you make it though? Some people just really talented. But how did you make it though? It had to be something to do with your mental.

For you to like. How did you make it? How did you make it though? You know of some people who just make it off to your talent. Ivan Johnson was definitely one of those guys that you're talking about. Like, okay, it's like trauma, right?

But he made it, right? Yeah. But it's different from making it and staying. Yeah. That's facts. Yeah, so that's true too. That's a lot of kids to this day that they're not staying. Yeah. It gotta be like, it gotta be- They could not be staying

because of something that might be affecting them off the court. You know, a lot of it is off the court. Everybody towns to be late. But I'm gonna tell you what it is. These kids are not building their foundation from the ground up. They're building it from the top down. So when they make it and they're facing adversity, they can't take the shit

because people been stroking their fucking ego since they been fucking in fifth and sixth grade. They been letting them get away with little bullshit. They been letting them get away with not fucking boxing the man out and not passing the ball to his teammate, being a great teammate, or playing a different role

because they double teaming a nigga and they gotta get off the ball and play. He's deal with that. You get what I'm saying? Entitlement. You get what I'm saying? So these kids, these new kids, like think about it, bro.

Just like it's a new era of guys making money, it's a new era of guys making money, it's a new era of guys quitting basketball. That's a fact. These niggas is 21 years old. Retiring. 22 years old, retiring from basketball, like they got CTE. Yeah.

Nah, it's been a lot of people retiring at an early age, just because of, like you said, they had to face a little adversity they ain't never faced before. I'm telling you, bro. And then they wanna blame it on other shit. Like no disrespect to that Griffin kid, but you talking about you wanna follow Christ, bro.

You could do both. Stop the cap. Like what's really the problem? Yeah, you can hoop us on the church. You can hoop us on the church. Yeah, cause I'm on and off the course. That's how you pay your tithes and offerings. That's how you pay your tithes and offerings.

I used to do it at a strip club. You know what I'm saying? But you know, you can do it. You can do it either way, man. You know. Yeah. But that's real. I think he faced a little adversity

that he was never used to. Probably tempted a lot more than he was. Man, no, man. He got drafted by his daddy and shit, and nigga ain't Doc Rivers' ass. That nigga got there and made his ass earn that shit. And then it fucked with him because his daddy didn't Doc Rivers, Austin Rivers.

But listen, but that accountability for you, Austin Rivers, he really was cold. He was cold in high school. No, no, no, Josh, no. Shout out to Austin. Like I fucked with him. No, you do it. He was cold in college too. He was cold in high school. He, no, no, Josh, no. I fought Auston Rivers, shout out to Auston. Like, I fought with him. No, you do it, but.

He was cold in college, too. He was cold in high school. He was cold in college. One of the best parts of the game. All right, all right, so. That UNC game. Okay, so, what, okay, give me another one. Auston, Auston Rivers.

Give me another one, don't stutter and give me another one. No, I'm not. Give me another one. Hold on, we not. Give me another one. I'm the game winner, give me another one. Give me another one. Give me another one. And I'll drink that whole bottle. Give me another one! I'm the game winner, give me another one! Give me another one! Give me another one!

And I'll drink that whole bottle! Give me another one! That's where it went crazy, kid folk. That's where it went crazy. Give me another one! That's where this game went crazy. Give me another one! Give me another one!

Austin Rivers. I'll drink this whole bottle, give me another one! This is not 520 in the morning, this is 520 after I'm done. The real 520. But I swear to God, Austin Rivers did his thing at Duke. Give me another one. He did his thing at Duke. I'm going to give you another one.

He did his thing at Duke. That's why there's a lottery nigga. So, if a nigga did it, it was Jason Williams. Jason Williams. He killed the whole ACC. Yeah. Yeah. That nigga got hit on the whole ACC. Yeah. Yeah. You don't care about the state.

They didn't get hit on the Yamaha. USC. He got into a fucking motorcycle. I can name how he killed his year before he got dragged to third. He killed everybody, he killed everybody. I'm just saying. I'm like, Jeff T, Jeff T killed the ACC.

Stop disrespecting T. I ain't just saying. See, that nigga killed the ACC. T was on. He didn't kill the ACC. No, my nigga went crazy. But he fuck this. No, listen. They team was raggedy.

I'm talking about Rivers. He went to a prestige at Duke University and Wake Forest University. Wake Forest is a Christian school. No, no, listen. Wake Forest is a Christian school for sure. Baptist. Yeah, they're a Christian school.

Duke, for sure. But Duke is way more premier than Wake Forest, if we keeping the truth. Okay, so he had a bigger platform. That's all you telling me. That's all you telling me. He had a bigger platform to do nothing. He exceeded.

He exceeded on his platform. He did, he got drafted. But he won team. It wasn't because he won team. I want some real shit. That nigga has more support. He did, he did. He got drafted, but he wasn't team. It wasn't cause I don't, I don't, I don't some real shit. That nigga had more support. No, no. Let's be honest. No, my kids, I don't think he was better than Jeff. Did Rivers have more support than you?

Yeah. All right then. That's why that nigga had a big t-shirt on. That nigga was showing his emotions. That nigga was showing his emotions. That nigga was tired. That nigga was wearing a cut off t-shirt with a motherfucking spray paint. That nigga had bacon neck on his t-shirt too. That nigga was like, That nigga was wearing a cut-out t-shirt with a motherfucking

sweatpants. That nigga had bacon neck on his t-shirt too. That nigga was like, he was stugging. That nigga was stugging. That nigga was like, I want that nigga. That nigga's from the shirt. You got to think about it. Michael Origenstein.

Shout out to AC Law. We had got him before you saw him. Y'all fucked AC Law career up. Let's talk about that. It wasn't a different big shirt. He had the big shirt. Nah, y'all fucked AC Law career up. It was the knuckleball.

It was the knuckleball. You saw him like. Y'all fucked, they see y'all career up. Let's talk about that. It wasn't even a big shirt. It wasn't, like, he had the big shirt. Nah, y'all fucked, they see y'all career up. It was the knuckleball. It was the knuckleball. Like, it was just like, shout out to, shout out. Like, cause he had, okay, see, he doing good. He got a job there. But it's like, it was the knuckleball.

So it's just, it's just about like, so then when I, he was there before you, right? So when I, you gotta think about it. My whole mindset was I need a point guard. So like, they drafted Al Horford. I'm like, okay, cool, I need that nigga. You feel what I'm saying? Boom.

Chris Paul came into play. They drafted Sheldon Williams. Shout out to Sheldon, you not kidding us or what? Shout out to, he was so fucked up about Candice. Get that child support. You know what I'm saying? That we couldn't even get him focused on the game. You know what I'm saying?

She had it. Candice said, nigga, I knew it was, I knew it was, he had the 750, this one the BMWs came out. He drove the 750 to Tennessee and dropped and came back in the PT Cruiser. He gave her the 750? He gave her the 750, I'm like, damn.

I said, damn, this nigga ain't locked in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, locked in. Yeah. Yeah, locked in.

Yeah, locked in. Yeah, locked in. You come back in the PT, it's crazy. And Candace on the other side now. It ain't like that. You come back in a PT. And Candace on the other side now. She a real one though. The real CP. She playing power forward on the other side. Not mad at her.

I ain't mad. I bet her son be cold as a motherfucker. Probably though. Before we get out of here, we gotta talk about the Detroit days, man. We didn't even get to talk about the lunch last, you know what I'm saying? Big payday. How was that play in Detroit, man?

Y'all had a hell of a roster up here, man. You had you, Big Drum, you had Greg Mulroney. Shout out to Joe Dumars, man. What was wrong with that picture was, I'm being honest with you, Jeff, you funny as hell, man. What you laughing for? You ready to hit it? You ready to hit it?

You ready to hit it? Nah, I swear to you. Before he start, bruh, I just remember when he left. So you got no smooth, bruh. Y'all don't know him. Like I said. Man, I had a bad conversation, man. I'm gonna talk to you, I'm gonna let you go ahead.

We in the club, bruh. And I'm like, damn, you going to Detroit? He like, yeah, we gonna fuck y'all up. He had KCP with him, he had some young nigg He like, yeah, we gonna fuck y'all up. He had KCP with him, he had some young niggas. He like, we gonna fuck y'all up. Y'all ain't gonna be shit. Who y'all got? Who y'all got?

I'm like, damn, I'm thinking like, damn, you right, man. We fuck around and gonna be weak. You got problem, you know what I'm saying? Nigga, what? What y'all gonna be ask? I was ready though, cause I thought I was playing at four. You know what I'm saying?

It was like, nigga, you playing the three. I'm like, hold on, nigga, I ain't played the three in nine years, hold on. Damn, hold on. This nigga, I had to come to camp 225. I'm like, damn, nigga, I'm 250. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

900. Boom, that one nigga understand. That one nigga understand. That one nigga understand. That was bad to me. If we get to play niggas in the season. Smack us. Man, I'm crying laughing.

Smack us. We beat the shit out of these niggas in the season. Smack us. Man, I'm crying laughing. Smack us. We beat the shit out of these niggas. I'm in that motherfucker sad. I'm in that motherfucker like, these niggas are mad as hell. I wanted Klaude Millsap so bad, I was like, man, I just want him. Cause that was my matchup.

I'm like, dog, dog got a three niggas. Who wasn't prepped for it? You was prepped for it. Man, I was mad as hell. Running off screens and shit. I'm like, man, hold on. Hold on, man. Beat the shit out of me.

I had a shitty ass game. Nigga, I'm hot. Nigga, I'm like, hold on. How did you feel though in Detroit though? Was you fucking with them or was you? I mean, shout out to Joe Dumas, like I said, man. Damn, I wish I would've, I mean, I love Joe Dumas, but I wish I would've, I mean, I love Joe Dumas, but I wish I would've listened to Danny Ferry.

We had a meeting and they had just been shitting on me so much in Atlanta. I was like, man, I wanted a new start. You know what I'm saying? So that's what people don't understand. Like I took all the flack when we lost, like it's Josh fault. You know what I'm saying? Like I ain't take, I probably took about two, three,

threes a game. They're like, these niggas taking 10 threes. This is what's good about my career. It's going to be a whole lot of niggas shooting fucking way worse than me. Yeah. Yeah. Cause ain't no fucking Steph Curry.

Steph Curry, Steph Curry. Clay Thompson and Clay Thompson. All these niggas shooting threes, they shooting motherfucking 25%, 24, I love it. So keep doing that shit. You know what I'm saying? Then keep making my shit look better. So, damn.

So, yeah, new start. I'm at, but they like, man, you gotta lose. You gotta go 225. I'm like, damn, nigga, I came in the league at fucking 210, 215. So I'm like, boom, this is my, people don't understand, this is my ninth year in the league. And this is what I had a talk with Danny Ferri.

Danny Ferri was like, this is before I left. We have a dinner, he's like, man. He's like, can, he's like, can you just give me one more year? Can you give me one year? Like, I'm gonna make it right. I didn't know he was getting bud. I'm like, no, man, I gotta get the fuck out of here. Like, ain't nobody taking up for me.

Ain't nobody saying goddamn, like, is this that and the third? I ain't never shit on the organization, in the media. I'm just like, you know what I'm saying? So boom, they say that shit. Like, he like, all right. So I was about to get traded in Milwaukee. So it never, it didn't pan out. Boom, I played the rest of the year out.

So then boom, he knew I was gone because of the conversation I had with him. Right. During the process. And I never came back to him like, you know, I gotta change your heart. So then Joe Dumars, boom, I signed with Detroit and it was like the worst winter in Detroit.

Like it was like shit to the ceiling. Like it was piled up the ceiling, like snow. They was like, shit, I'm like, I'm calling like, is practice still going on? Like, or do I gotta like, is it canceled? They're like, hell no, you gotta pull your ass up. I'm like, shit, who gonna pick me up? I'm like, shit, fuck that.

Who the fuck is this motherfucker gonna pick me up? I ain't, nigga, I'm driving 20 miles per hour in the snow, scared as a motherfucker, cause you know Atlanta, nigga, two inches, it's shut down. It's no more, it ain't no school, it ain't nothing going on. So I'm like, I'm like, man, what's like, so I finally got used to the snow and stuff like that. But Detroit was like a city that, it's like Indiana. It's like, you want to win, you know what I'm saying?

Because you know the fans are passionate about sports. You know what I'm saying? And it's not a lot of states that are really passionate about like professional sports. You got collegiate sports, like everybody, because it's alumni. You got what? You got North Dakota State in football.

They'll sell out arenas because it's a following because people went to school there. But basketball is like bandwagoning. You know what I'm saying? Damn near. damn near it's like if you if you got a view a fan of of NBA team is because you from there or you like a player yeah player you know i'm saying in detroit don't play about their teams at all not at all man not at all i remember like then i remember when i was playing they had like when there was an opera hills they had like tallies of like Like when there was an Auburn Hills, they had like tallies of like sold out, like consecutive sold out arenas, you know, that like showed out games and it was like, it got like 200

or something. So like, when I seen that, like when Chauncey Billis from there was there, Ben Walson there and then was there when I was playing and I seen it, I was like, man, I wanna be a part of something like that, but it just never happened. But they deserve a winning team. Indiana deserves a winning team. You know what I mean?

Like, nah, seriously though. Seriously though, like when you have like passionate fans, like guys wanna talk, like guys like on opposing teams, it's just like a player. It's like you hate to play against them, but you love to love him to be on your team. It's like certain cities like Boston, Utah, Indiana, Detroit.

Detroit. You know what I'm saying? Houston is one of them places. Golden State. Definitely, dog state before you know it's in the middle. Yeah, so it gone state before he moved to the middle of the ring. Yeah, so it's like, Lakers.

At the Oriole, bro. I just, me personally, I don't think Detroit probably need to move, bro. Nah, hell nah. Nah, they need to move. They moved out of Auburn Hill, that was all they needed to do. Nah, I think, no, it's not them,

it's, I'ma tell you a team that might need to move. Let me see. Let me think about it. Memphis? No, they fuck, no. Well, they're Charlotte. I'm just saying, man. Hold on, I'm finna say, I'm finna say.

I say either Charlotte, because they fans ain't shit. It's like, it's easy to do that. Even when it ain't good, it's easy. You don't feel the pressure. I'm going to say like, Charlotte. Give me a West Coast team. I'm going to give you a West Coast team too.

I promise you I'm going to give you one. Let me think. Phoenix is good, but they just, they like, they're not really, they like, it's like a retirement place. So like, Phoenix is a retirement place. So they ain't really like, it ain't a whole lot of fan, Phoenix fans, man, motherfucker.

I'm gonna say either Phoenix, Phoenix or like from LA, like from West coast, I Charlotte, or like from LA, like from West Coast I'm in. Either Phoenix. Man, I say Clippers too. I'm gonna say I don't be mad at the two before the Vegas. Get them niggas the fuck up out of here too. You see that stadium, it ain't going nowhere no time. No, I'm going with Steve Ballman locked in.

Steve Ballman the real one though. So what he need to do is sell that stadium. And go to Seattle. Yeah, Seattle needs to see it back in South. No nigga, get OKC the fuck out of here. No. They fans is crazy. Seattle deserves a team back here.

OKC is crazy though. Reporting the team is crazy. OKC stole. Y'all stole that team from them. OKC fans is crazy. I'm telling you, bro, this shit is crazy. They gave it to the wrong city Cuz like okay see they they got some real fans baby. So they like not and y'all ain't going we going to Seattle

Get him a g-league. Nah Get Charlotte g-league Like y'all do not want though like come come on bruh. Like how many different, how many different motherfucking mess y'all gon' have? Y'all got the hornics, y'all got the bobcats. God damn. Like come on man. I'm not even gonna go for the bobcats.

Look, we done changed the goddamn. What's the third one? What's the third one gon' be? I'm gonna go back to the Hoarders. What's the third one gon' be? I'm gonna go back to the Hoarders. What the fuck? They went back to the OGs, John.

I'm gonna go, but damn bro, what we gon' do next? Like, come on, no more fans. What's the 30 on the OG? What the fuck is 30? They went back to the OG, Josh! Damn, bro, what we gonna do next? Come on, no more fans. This nigga ball is fucking killing. This nigga is the number one park guard in the fucking NBA. You can't get no fans, nigga! This nigga is killing! This nigga triple doubles!

This nigga average at 30! He average at 30! The Hoarders are AAU team, man. It was a high like the other day, somebody posted to me and I wanna apologize to you. We was playing in Indiana, I was back home and you bought me a bunch of tickets and gave me some tickets. But Gerald Green, we was in a playoff I think

and Gerald Green spun off of me and dunked on you. And I remember going to the- He did. I remember going to the gym. I'm a shop blocker though, so I don't give a fuck. I don't care nigga, dunk on me. gonna go to the They get tired of this shit. You want to get a free straight line? Like, God damn. This daddy like standing in the rim, nigga. It was like standing in the rim.

How was it though? Like he was coming down, he was dripping, he was spitting out tea. It was on the wing and I was trying to guard him and he spun off me and he like blew by me fast. And Smoothie- He reaching over. He was a gambler.

He a gambler ass nigga. And Smooth went for it and then we ran down, you know, Smoothie was gonna give a fuck. He was like gambler. He ain't gambling ass nigga. He dumped it and Smooth went for it. And then we ran down, you know, Smooth was gonna give a fuck. He was like, he don't care. But then we got to the bench. Cause he was like, do you want to do it?

Do you want to fuck with me? Cause I be mad cause I can't get the nigga back. Like right back. Cause I know 90% of the office is going through it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's 3%. I'm like, I can't get this nigga back to him. I can't get this nigga back.

For like a whole quarter. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn. Jepner got a couple of niggas punched on though. It's okay though. He learned that shit from Bibi. The OG spook. He learned that shit from OG.

That nigga OG, that nigga Azzel. He's like, nigga, go get that shit Josh. He was like, this didn't bring me here to wild y'all with my defense. Go get that nigga OG. That nigga Azz is like, go get that shit Josh. He was like, this didn't bring me here to wild y'all with my defense. Go get that shit Josh. No, it ain't your loss. Spoole, you said, I ain't gonna, your defense bro, you should have been like,

I don't know if he was first team ever. Never. But you should have been first team. Why though? Why you think you never got that? He made it for a lot of mistakes bro. I mean, what people gotta understand is, the game is political.

You know what I'm saying? Once you get to that level, it's political, dawg. That's why you always hear other NBA players tell you that, they basically telling you what I tell you. The best players don't fucking make it because of how do Negroes handle their success when they feel like they have the word at their feet. You know what I'm saying?

And it could be like high school, like you getting all the looks, you hollering at all the girls, you get the, you the man. How do you handle that? Do you handle it humbly? Like this ain't shit. You know what I'm saying? Like this is just a scratch of the surface.

Or do you handle it like, you that nigga? This is, yeah, I'm that nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I hear what you saying. Like, just like every athlete, it ain't even gotta be a black kid.

You know what I'm saying? It's like, how do you handle that success? Just like every athlete, it ain't even gotta be a black kid. You know what I'm saying? It's like, how do you handle that success? Do you know what year though you felt like you definitely should have been in all the first scenes? I know what year it was. Who, me? Yeah, you.

The year you went shooting them threes. Man, it was, it was. You and Bibi made that bet, and Bibi said, I bet you bet 10k you wouldn't shoot a certain amount of threes, and nigga was shooting all middies, and Bibi said, you bet 10k, you wouldn't shoot a certain amount of threes. And nigga was shooting all middies, and nigga was killing. Yeah, I was.

And I was like, anybody can make the All-Star team. But then, it was the year that Joe got hurt, Al got hurt. We came back from the, from the lockout year. Al tore his pig, and Joe was just in and out with his cat. And we still got what? Third in the East. So I was like, I'ma make it nigga. This was a year where your brother was talking about,

I came to Kentucky and I was playing shitty. And I was like, look, cause like niggas don't understand. Yeah, I'm glad you brought that understand. I never gave a damn about like summer basketball. Practiced summer basketball, I was a shitty ass player. Like it was just like, I'm in here for conditioning. Like, let me know, like, do you want me at 7 a.m. or do you want me at 7 p.m.? or do you want me at 7 p.m.? I was one of them niggas.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm gonna get these conditions in. Just like the shooting shit. I wanna talk about that shit. That was a good one though. Yeah. So, I'm looking at, like, your brother there, LeBron wasn't there, you know what I'm saying?

It was just like the OKC players and some of the Boston players. You know what I'm saying, when I was there. So when I was playing, like I was hooping, but I'm like, nigga, what the fuck that nigga, what a nigga Jones is, you know what I'm saying? What a nigga T. Jones is, like the nigga, he wasn't showing up, cause I'm like,

nigga, this supposed to be the nigga y'all team. Like, it's NBA niggas in here. Like if I was him, I'll be running to the gym. So he says y'all niggas are scared. Oh, no nigga. We asking for this nigga. Like why is this nigga not coming?

So boom, your brother probably just hyped the nigga up. That's what he should have said. I'm hyping that move. And I ran back to the dorm. Like it was some niggas in up. That's what he shoulda said, I hyped him up. I ran back to the dorm, like, it was some niggas in there. I shoulda hyped, you know, I hyped the nigga up. He came in there, he had a decent day. He had a decent day, I ain't gonna say. He said, this is motherfuckin' bad in the house.

He had a decent day. He didn't do his thing. Hold on, hold on, Josh. He didn't do his thing. He didn't do his thing. He said, motherfucker, holdold. He did not kill. Harold Moore, he said, this is from my little, this is from nephew.

Nephew. Mook said, nigga, be he and T. Jones came in there, motherfucker, shut that bitch down, nigga went back to sleep. He's lying though. He's lying though. He's lying though. He's lying though because it was other niggas in there

that cared, you know what I'm saying? So they might've beat my team, but Rondo and them team, smashing to them. You get your ass smacked, you know what I'm saying? Stop all the cap. Because if you felt that good, it would have been a different type of entry to the NBA. You feel what I'm saying?

No disrespect. No disrespect. You just keep it real. You keep it real. It would have been a different type of approach to the NBA like these niggas ain't shit. You had that type of success against Hall of Fame players. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Let's be honest now. No, we keeping it true. So I'm like, okay, boom. I had, I remember I didn't play bad against Terrence Jones. I played bad against the Oklahoma City team. So they like, oh, this nigga suck. Like I'm walking back to the hotel,

getting into it with my partner. And it's not like you, how you and y'all, you would say, am I funny, you playing around the shit, goddamn, we done about to squabble up in the middle of the, it's like Lexington, we about to goddamn, like hold on, you know what I'm saying? So I'm like, shit, fuck that, mark their ass on the menu. Mark their ass, get their ass, 30 something,

this one I had that dunk on Ebaka. Yeah, that one I had that dunk on Ebaka, one of my historic dunks. And I'm like, I gotta stop playing with niggas. You know what I'm saying? That was just me knowing I gotta stop playing, bruh. I gotta stop just getting fucking. You was too comfortable.

I was comfortable, it was like, cause I was comfortable knowing that it's niggas in practice that'll bust your ass and they get subbed in the game won't do shit. So I'm like, nigga, I don't want to be known as no practice player. You get what I'm saying? I don't want to be known as no nigga that can lead plus minus in practice.

I knew y'all was different though. Cause I remember one time I was killing in practice. Like when I first was a rookie, you know how you playing hard as hell as a rookie. And y'all just kind of chilling. Then Woody got mad at y'all. And y'all was like, come on man. This nigga just start blocking every shot. I'm going to the back seat.

Block, block, dunk. I'm like, shit. I'm trying to save myself. Yeah, I'm like. Cause I'm athletic as hell, bro. I'm not trying to come down on a nigga footin' in practice. Then boom, I'm out for fuckin' two weeks. I didn't know how I athletic.

I mean. I didn't take my ankles. Like obviously I knew him from high school. Like he was athletic, but I ain't know. Like I wasn't no fan of too many people. So I'm like, I don't give a fuck. And then we shootin' free throws. And I'm like, yeah, I can go through the legs.

He was like, for real? Shot the ball, grabbed it, just went through the legs. Huh! I was like, what the fuck? go through the legs. He was like, for real? Shot the ball, grabbed it, just went through the legs. Huh! I was like, what the fuck? And everybody was like, you not athletic, it's my fault. You thought you was athletic? Cause I'm just talking shit. He was talking shit too.

I'm like, I go through the legs? So he just shot a free throw, got the ball, just went off. Boom! Just got that walking to it. And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, it was just like, when you were, what you said, like the shoot around shit, right? So, let me, like,

what, we had shoot around like, either 11 o'clock or 10 o'clock, right? So we had shoot around. I'm shooting, we shooting like a motherfucker. We going through they plays. We going through our plays, right? Then, you going to the game, right? You got the Ricky bus, you got the veteran bus.

So I'm on the veteran bus by the time he get there. So I'm like, I'm already knowing I got eight shots, eight to 10 shots this game. Every game I know I got eight to 10 shots, depending on how I maneuver this shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, I just, did we not like, so you got 15 shots, like you got 15 minutes per slot.

You feel what I'm saying? So my slot is 15 minutes, his slot 15 minutes before the game start. So I'm coming in there motherfucker, if I make two shots, I'm like shit, I'm cool. I'm hot, I'm hot. You know what I mean? The mentality is like, okay shit, I'm hot tonight. You know what I'm saying? If I miss two, I'm like okay, I gotta stay like an extra five, 10 minutes. You know what I'm saying? If I miss two, I'm like, okay, I gotta stay like an extra five, 10 minutes.

You know what I'm saying? But I'm never staying to 15 minutes. That nigga shoot around, shit was crazy. That was my mentality, like, fuck that shit. That nigga used to shoot two shots. Fuck it. They used to shoot two more. I'm like, this nigga here crazy.

That bitch go in though. I'm running in the locker crazy. That bitch go in though. I'm running the locker room. Them two go in. I'm going to be playing hard as hell. And I'm like, cause on defense, bro, he made up for everybody mistakes. That's why I used to be like, and why him? People don't like, like, y'all understand

what this nigga doing. He got six blocks and three steals. But even if you look at it now, like Drew, did Drew got a DPOI? Like AD got a DPOI? Like, A.D. got a DPO out? Like, when you talk about them as being regarded as some of the best defenders in the league, so like you said to your point,

players know it's more political than it is off. No, it is, because I got, it was one time I was defensive player runner-up and I made the second team. You know what I'm saying? So how do you- Didn't somebody win defense player of the year and get second team?

Or Mark Massa? Yeah. That's what happened with like, so Dwight won the day year and I got second behind him and I was still second team. Yeah, that's great. Make that make sense. Yeah, that's great.

So I'm like, cause you don't even play the five. So that's great. No, so after that, it's like, just like bam out of value. Like I respect everything he do because he's guarding one through five and then as skilled as the league is today for him to be able to isolation stop a point guard that can really just dribble 30 times now to try to get a bucket and to stop him,

you gotta look at stuff like that. That was you. Yeah, that was me. So it was like two years I led the league in isolation, isolation plays, percentage-wise, I led the league in that. But that's what I hang my hat on. I love cutting the nigga water off. You know what I'm saying?

Like I love that shit. You was called on defense bro. Cutting a nigga water off is everything. Like I used to tell T like, man, just act like you gonna strip that motherfucker. Let him pick his steps up. So my step was like, if you do this, I'm blocking that shit. Yeah, that time.

If you come straight up, I don't know. Like, but if you picking that motherfucker up, you're this, I'm blocking that shit. Yeah, that time. If you come straight up, I don't know. But if you picking that motherfucker up, you're stepping, I'm whooping at your shit. Nah, it ain't easy. Big belts. Do not foul him, just reach, I'ma block it. Yeah, just run through him and get the, you gonna get a rebound.

Did he ever listen? Yeah, he did, absolutely. I'm gonna get that shit out fast. Yeah, he like, he gonna swing through, boom, rebound. He get the rebound. He get at least one or two rebounds. Him and the white at that time, bro, they used to block everything.

Cause I'm chasing shit. I was chasing shit down before LeBron was. Nah, that nigga was blocked. Like LeBron did that shit one time with Tayshon Prince. And, you know, they made that like, oh, that's his career. But no, I was really one of the ones that did that shit in high school.

I started at McDonald's All American. You got a fucking highlight tape to chase down blood. Cause I'm a, you know, I don't care. Did you always live on that though? Was that your like, who put that batter in your back and then get to play defense? Cause to me like, well I pay attention to the AAU world, but I feel like a lot of people, if they see you,

they don't catch those highlights of you swatting shit or you know, being the best hell side defender, damn near low key ever in high school for real, to me. Yeah, I got a shout out to Coach Prather, man. Shout out to Celtics, rest in peace RIP. ATL Celtics, that's what he talking about. Real one, man, real one, man. Shout it out. Celtics, rest in peace, RIP. ATL Celtics, that's what he talking about. Real one, man. Real one, man.

He had the, the man had the hairline back there to his neck. You know what I'm saying? But he had the baby neck, rest in peace, man. He used to got that, look, he had that stick in his, ginseng stick in his mouth. You know what I'm saying? Chief.

He was like, Chief, you gotta play the Chief. You gotta play defense, Chief. You want longevity, you gotta play defense, Chief. You want longevity, you gotta play defense. He had that stick in his mouth. I'm like, man, I got you. But it was a coach that I knew. See, one thing about these players, they go through life meeting all kinds of coaches,

all kinds of trainers, right? But they never rarely meet a coach that's gonna put them down on some shit. You know what I'm saying? Like on some real shit. Like, so he was a coach, like, I was a nigga that didn't have shit. I ain't have no money.

You know what I'm saying? Like my parents didn't have no money. So whatever the program gave me, that's what I had. You know what I'm saying? My parents didn't have no money, so whatever the program gave me, that's what I had. You know what I'm saying? I was a nigga that had like, I'm getting a basketball pair of shoes for the whole year. You know what I'm saying? So I'm telling him like,

okay, I gotta like, he like, he hold me down. Niggas talking about me, you know what I'm saying? My home, my teammates talking about me, I ain't got shit. He taking up for me, you know what I'm saying? Cause he knew I was special. Like he knew I didn't have the shit that he knew I was going to attain, but he just like,

you know what I mean? He knew. So like that was the, that was the, that was the coach that kind of like. Molded your game. He did. He molded my everything. Like then I went to Oak Hill.

So Steve Smith was one of the mother coaches too. Yeah. So like. Well you ranked Steve Smith as like, I don't care like what level of coach you had. He won. He won. He won.

He's a one out of two. Yeah. So if you're doing rankings, where you rank yourself at at Oak Hill? You got Mello, you got BJJ. You got Brandon Jenkins. You got Rondo. I'm top five.

You got Steven Jackson. Steven Jackson. I'm top five. Top five. Who the five? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Mello, Staghouse, me, Rondo, Kevin Durant.

Are you gonna count KD? But he went to Mount Ver- I mean, he ended up going to Mount Ver- He went to Mount Ver- Who? I ain't know- You got Michael Beasley. All these niggas went to school there.

So are we doing graduates? Yeah, let's say you graduated. Okay, so me, Carmelo, Stackhouse, Rondo. You gotta have B. Jennis in there. It's smooth. B. Jennis. I'll be real insightful. Before we get out of here, last question.

I know there's a lot of back and forth. The B. Jennis and Rondo conversation at Oak Hill. Rondo. Rondo. Rondo broke a record for assist. So it's like, are you a point guard or you a shooting guard? Cause you can't want to be a point guard because it's shooting guard.

So you get to shoot the ball. Yeah. That's a point guard. So point guard is the, he's the sit up man. And my honorable mention goes to Ty Lawson. Ty Lawson, you an OKO motherfucker legend. Yeah, absolutely. Ty Lawson.

Tripped up. Michael Beasley. My life. Beas, my dog. Man, he got kicked out because he was autographing everything. Now that's what people don't know, he was autographing. This one got him, he autographed a bumper sticker

of the deans of the school. That's what got don't know. He was autographing. This one got him, he autographed a bumper sticker of the Dean of the school. That's what got him kicked out. He's autographing library books, everything, shirts. He won the greatest high school basketball players ever. I would love to see an autographed book of Mike Beasley, okay. I need to remember. Just one note, man.

Show, like look, okay, stop playing. Stop playing. Show the folks that he was out there tripping. Where's the bumper sticker? I bet he ain't got that. He probably like, damn, let's just save that. See what I'm saying? So when kids are doing historic shit, let them do it. Let them block it. Because you never know where it's going to take you.

For sure. Listen, man, this has been great. We're going to do this again, Big Smooth. We appreciate you, man. Like we said, full circle moment, bro. You kicked it off for us, man. We appreciate you giving us that moment, man. Thanks for gonna do this again, Big Smooth. We appreciate you, man. Like we said, full circle of money, bro. You kicked it off for us, man.

We appreciate you giving us that moment, man. Thanks for having us at the show, man. For sure, man. Of course we gotta hear B-Head tell the people they grabbed some merch at. Shopquad520.com, baby. Until next time, we out. Live from ATL.

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