Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Symba tells Jeff Teague that LeBron James CHANGED HIS LIFE + Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake
Episode Date: February 20, 2025We’re back with Season 3, Episode 35 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Symba for an interview where he talks about becoming a rapper, playing basketball in high school, Ken...drick Lamar vs. Drake rap beef, and how LeBron James of the Los Angeles Lakers changed his life. Plus, Symba ranks Damian Lillard, Gary Payton, Jason Kidd, and the best players to come out of Oakland and the Bay area. Jeff also tells Symba a hilarious story of his "welcome to the NBA" moment with Joe Johnson that you won't want to miss! 0:00 - Start 6:00 - Best PG out of Oakland 11:00 - How he started rapping 19:00 - LeBron changed my life 28:00 - Colin Kaepernick 34:00 - Jeff's welcome to the NBA moment 44:00 - Symba's new movie #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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All right, we back man.
Another episode of Club 520 podcast live in the bay with it.
Since we in the bay, Michelin, that's the only right man.
Bay Earth's finding us in the building with a special guest.
He ain't even a guest on this family already in the building.
I'm a real family of the show.
I ain't a friend of the show.
I watch every episode man.
I love what T did on the court.
I fuck with my nigga B.H.N.
You know what I'm saying?
My nigga DJ Wills,
what y'all doing for the culture is important.
I wanted to bring my brothers through
because they run the culture out here in the Bay Area.
And sometimes in the Bay Area,
a lot of us don't get the platforms we deserve.
So I wanted to make sure we highlighting our culture
during All-Star Weekend.
Y'all allowed us to do that.
So we appreciate that.
Nah, for sure, bro.
I'm saying it's our culture, Mitchell and Nestle,
South, it's all tied in for sure.
To my far left, my dog, Bishop B. Hen out the pearly,
it's how you would, nasty?
Cool, and Ashley got one of my guys on here, man.
So I'm excited for this one, for sure.
Hey, man, we never thought that Sybil and B. Hen
would be one of my favorite backwords, man.
Nah, it's a legendary.
B. Hen, my new best friend.
A legendary duo, man. We and B. Hen had favorite backhorses, man. Nah, that's a legendary. B. Hand my new best friend. That's a legendary duo, man.
We had a good time last night, man.
I will say, B. Hand is very disciplined.
Yes, yes.
He's very disciplined and I'm not.
Yes.
That's a different angle.
I love that.
So he left the church, that's gonna be a real.
Nah, Luis cut that out.
Yeah.
Push on to my right, my dawg, Young Nacho.
Young Teeq, how you work?
Cooling, bro, excited.
Me and B-Hand was talking about this a minute ago,
how we used to send each other the raps,
the raps, the freestyles,
and like how this moment is huge for us, bro.
We excited, because we was fans.
So to have him on the show, this is gonna be dope.
Now Teeq, I've been a fan of you since Wake Forest, man.
You gotta remember when I DM'd you,
I sent you them basketball clips
to show you I was a real Hooper.
I really watched your come up, nigga.
Like, I'm really a fan.
Like, I know what it take.
That's why when Gilly was in here yesterday,
talking that bullshit, I said,
Gil, you know how hard it is to score 12 points
in the NBA, nigga?
You talk about you just gonna dog these niggas.
Like, it ain't gonna go that way.
Not at all.
Matter of fact, Gile canceled the game today, didn't he?
Yeah, somebody was dodging.
You see the flyer.
Somebody was dodging.
See the flyer.
It's posted, baby.
Somebody was dodging.
How have you guys experienced being in the Bay this weekend?
It's been cool, bro.
It's been cool.
Been great for me, man.
Especially last night.
We can't speak too much, but I told the guys,
I said, yeah, every time I enter California period,
I'm tapping in with my guy.
So I appreciate that little shout out to Hennessy for sure.
Shout out to Hennessy, it's fabulous.
Them is our people over there for sure,
but now the love you showed last night, bro, it's for real.
Now we appreciate it, man.
It's a lot of things that's going on behind the scenes
to make sure we keep everybody safe,
keep everybody feeling welcome.
Just having y'all here, right?
Gilbert Arenas, my big brother.
Gilly and Waldo, everybody, like we wanna make sure
when you guys come to California,
especially to the Bay Area, y'all are taken care of.
Y'all feel appreciated because we appreciate what y'all do for us as a coach.
Appreciate that. And shout out to the Bay, man, especially like the last couple of weeks
you've been seeing everybody giving the respect they're supposed to.
Tupac talked about how he came to the Bay and got his hustle.
Master P talked about how he came out here, got his game and took it back to the N.O.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Especially for our people, the real culture,
black people, Bay mean a lot, man.
What's up, man?
I brought one of the most ignorant Bay Area niggas with me.
Okay.
Rab, explain to him how we live as a culture
out here in the Bay Area.
Well, first of all, we players, you know what I'm saying?
We players and we come from that Panther cloth, you know what I'm saying?
So we come from that Panther cloth and a lot of drug dealers, big time drug dealers, you know, that crack area hit us hard too.
So like we just full of game.
So when y'all here Tupac saying he got that game from here, that's what it's about.
It's about the game.
And we on the island.
So in the whole United States,
it's the only place that probably don't have no gangs.
So we don't have no gangs, not no black gangs.
So ain't no Crips, no Bloods, no GDs, no Vices,
none of that, we just straight niggas.
Yeah.
No, for sure, for sure.
Turf wars though.
No, it get tricky everywhere though.
It get tricky.
But I got a question on that.
Big fan of y'all's show too.
Appreciate it.
Drake Mines is one of my best friends
and I've been so.
Shout out to Drake.
And I know y'all over there at the volume
and I've been watching y'all rise.
But one thing I like about y'all's show though
is one thing I always tell y'all,
I love the way y'all get on there
and say what the fuck y'all want to say.
That shit fired me.
I mean.
I appreciate that bro. I mean like, yeah, this is,
that right there is what this shit supposed to be like.
You know what I'm saying?
So I appreciate it.
I got a question.
What did y'all hear before y'all got out here?
On y'all way to All Star weekend,
like what was the things I was going through y'all here
when y'all got off the plane,
like this is what we about to see.
Shit, we pulled up, shout out to Henny,
we did Henny Arena last year in San Francisco.
So we had pulled up, but what we remember was
if we get a rental to make sure the car unlocked,
or don't put shit in the motherfucking view,
because that will be, your liability is gonna be used
in that claim.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Somebody put us on a game, we pulled up,
we thought yeah, we remember, no rentals.
Niggas kept hitting that lock button, no Reynolds. We were all out here.
Niggas kept hitting that lock button,
walking down the street, and they get down.
Making sure that he's okay.
What they fail to tell y'all,
is y'all caught the tail end of the Biffin' shit.
That was like a trend.
Okay.
Right, so y'all caught the tail.
That shit didn't like die down.
We might be close to a year past that, right, Ray?
Because what happens is, once everybody starts to like,
not leave nothing in the cars, leaving their windows down
because the broken windows was the headache,
then all the bimbers was like,
shit we ain't making no money now.
So this shit started to go away in my opinion.
We ain't really had a whole lot of that
within the last year or so.
So it's a progression boy.
It was a little wicked last time we pulled up,
so show respect.
Niggas is getting Uber's now.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
What's up?
The rental car industry all the way.
Hold on, we ain't in Uber or get bit.
We're a bit people in Uber out here.
Nigga, I got Ubers with no drivers.
I got the remote cars out here.
Waymo, shut out the Waymo.
Yeah, wait, don't wipe me down in the Waymo.
I can't even get your pillow off.
There you go.
I can't do nothing about it.
See, for sure now we got a relationship with you.
Now we just getting car service through you now.
Oh, you good.
You good.
We gonna make sure you all straight, man.
Anytime you all like me, we gonna make sure you straight.
Facts, facts.
Nah, bro.
We know the world know you as a rapper.
I love boy who, like, what was your position in high school?
I was a two guard, man.
I still hold the point record at my high school.
I dropped 47 and three quarters.
I was very passionate about basketball,
but I got caught cheating on my SAT test.
So I didn't pass clearing house rules.
That's how I ended up becoming a rapper.
I was like, I gotta do something else
because I didn't talk too much shit to go to the 13th grade.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not going to a JC and go ball at a JC when I didn't talk too much shit to go to the 13th grade. You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to a JC and go ball at a JC
when I didn't tell all the girls
I was going to Duke, lying my ass off.
But rapping worked out for me.
Did some schools, some schools checking you out though?
Like did you take it seriously?
Hell yeah, I had a lot of offers.
I just was a hard head, bro.
I didn't listen.
I was very spoiled as a kid.
You know, I come from a rich culture, a rich heritage,
and I didn't have the work ethic.
I always say if I would have made it to the league,
I would have been worse than Teague.
I would have been a nigga that would have been
in the strip club right after the game.
I know Teague used to go to Magic City
right after them Hawks games.
I would have been there at halftime. That... That...
That...
That...
Magic City wasn't my spot.
My spot was Diamonds of Atlanta.
It was right by my crib.
Okay, okay, okay.
My challenger used to be posted up.
I was legendary in there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got a question for you, you know what I'm saying?
You up on your hoops and stuff.
I'm gonna ask you, who the best PG out of Oakland?
Ooh, Jason Kidd.
Jason Kidd, 1000%.
Shout out to Gary Payton as well.
Y'all think Dame gonna catch him?
Man, Dame still got work to do.
Dame still got work to do.
That's quiet, bro.
Dame still got work to do.
Nah.
If J.Kidd played in Alameda, does that count?
High school ball, St. Joseph.
And the rec center.
I bet.
All right, man.
It was outside.
Okay, okay, respect.
I ain't mad at that.
You got Gary Payton.
It's just, y'all got GPE for sure.
Definitely shout out to Gary Payton.
Shout out to Leon Poe too.
Shout out to Leon Poe.
Okay, shout out.
I'll beat y'all another point.
Yeah, right.
But Dame, Dame Lillard different.
Dame Dilla different, bro.
Like, Jason Kidd was one of your traditional P.G.'s,
but Dame and Lillard, bro, is probably the best player
to come out of Oakland, bro.
Which I probably know better, you know.
I wouldn't disagree with you.
I only said J.Kidd because of the heritage
and how we grew up watching J.Kid.
So I know Dame is still fulfilling his career.
He got a lot more to go.
I just talked to him the other night
and I know he want that ring.
But J.Kid is somebody we seen playing high school,
go to the NBA coach.
Like we've watched this whole thing
and he's also big in our community out here as well.
So it's just a different level of love and respect
when it come to J. Kid, but salute to Dame as well.
I want to say this about Dame too, y'all.
I used to be at all Dame games
cause my brother played against him.
He's the same dude.
He's the same, nothing has changed
from high school to the pros.
He was pulling from logo in high school.
Most niggas get benched for that.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially at them times,
kids just throwing that motherfucker up now.
But Dane was pulling, and he had the green light,
so you know he could shoot.
But shout out to O'High, man.
Dane was a fool up at that school.
Yeah.
Definitely, man.
To see what Dane did, he probably,
because I might have had to agree with that.
He might be close to the best player to come out of here
that didn't have the player to come out of here
that didn't have the most hype coming out of here.
He went to Weber and shot the piss out the ball.
And the way he turned it up there,
I don't think nobody thought Dane coming out of Oakland High,
you know what I'm saying, was finna turn into what he did.
He went there, he was shooting lights out,
you couldn't deny him, and then he kept going.
You know what I'm saying, he never leveled out.
He got to the league and just turned the fuck up.
So, I shout out to Dane,
because when he was in high school,
I don't know if he had the hype that some of the other dudes.
I think Ray Young had more hype coming out of high school.
You ever played against Ray Young?
I don't know Ray Young.
How does he do?
UCLA?
Nah, they only play with him.
Nah, that's why.
He's trying to put you in Baron Davis.
Damn nigga.
That nigga is 91.
Now damn I had a Baron Davis jersey.
We grew up watching media.
I'll be tripping on what May Dame decided to pick.
I'd be curious to find out from his people how he decided to go to Weaver.
That's what he said his, his assistant coach.
He was fly with, from the crib. He said his assistant coach, he was fly with,
back from the crib, he was out here,
he was just like, hey, I got a shot for you out here.
He said he rocked with it.
Yeah, he came and talked about that for sure.
He said Weber saved him on a few places he could go.
He said it was a direct correlation from the city.
He tapped in.
That was an excellent choice.
All right, Semba, so, you know what I mean?
Hoop didn't work, you was a damn fool,
so you can't hoop no more.
What was the rap?
I was undisciplined, B.H.
I wasn't a fool, I was just undisciplined.
I know, I got you though, that's why I'm in your life now.
I got you, I got you, my nigga.
No, that was some for real shit though, like,
what was the, what was the rapping influence though?
Man, bro, just.
You guys take you to the studio, you know what I mean?
Did you randomly freestyle around the team?
Like how you get into it?
Man, honestly bro, it was something we started like hooping.
Like we used to be in the locker room,
just freestyling and rapping, you know what I mean?
Just having fun.
I'm sure y'all did the same thing coming up.
Just having fun with it, being on the team bus.
My name is Simba, yeah, I got them bitches, yeah.
Who wants to do that?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
We cook it.
We cook it.
That's where it started.
That's where it started from, but I just kept going
and I fell in love with the craft.
And I'm somebody that like, I love the process of things
more than I actually do the beginning of it
or the end result.
So I love going through the process.
And rap for me was something that was like,
the first thing that I was never good at,
that I had to work to get better at.
Right, so like, I was a natural athlete,
so I could literally get in the game
and my C-list effort would be a lot of people's a-word
You know what I mean?
But music was something I really had to learn and really get into the craft of and I just fell in love with it from there
I have a question for you. I ain't gonna start by like who you feel like who like influenced you musically like basketball who you play like
They call me Lance Simberston
Me
They call me LA Fitness, oh you call me Lance Simbelston. Who called you that? Me? You played like Lance Simbelston? That's what they call me at LA Fitness.
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You bully bull?
I'm a defender, you know what I'm saying?
I knock down a couple threes,
but I'm gonna irritate the fuck out you.
So you pad big?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
I'm gonna get all in your ear.
I'm gonna talk that shit.
I'm gonna steal the ball from you.
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I'm gonna do whatever I'm supposed to do
to make sure we win the game.
No, okay.
See, I never thought you was a defender.
Nah, nigga, I lock niggas up, pause.
I was just saying, you said 47.
I thought you was just saying, I thought you were a scorer.
That's when I'm ball hogging
and nobody out there guarding me.
Ah, okay, okay.
So if I got some defenders on me,
I'm gonna adapt and go the other way
and I'm gonna knock down some threes and play some defense.
I don't have to get it.
Oh no, we talked about music.
Like who influenced you to rap?
Like I know you said you started off on the hoop tip
rapping on the bus and stuff,
but like when you got serious about it,
like, nah, even before that,
like who was you listening to?
Like that's my shit.
Man, bro, Jay-Z.
Like Jay-Z was always, Jay-Z, Jadakiss.
I seen Jadakiss last night, which was crazy,
because I had my best friend with me.
And she told him, like,
this nigga never happens without you,
because we used to ride to school to Jadakiss.
She told him how we used to be late to class
to go buy his albums and things like that.
So I always was inspired by reality rap,
not just people that could rap because it rhymed.
People that really said something, that spoke to our culture,
spoke to our community and pushed us forward as a culture
is what I always related to.
So the Jadakiss's, the Kendrick Lamar's, the Drake's,
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Drake and Kendrick, how y'all feel about that?
Oh, that's a nigga mess.
How y'all feel about that? Uh, a nigga mess. That's a guy wicked.
How y'all feel about that?
It's going.
I like that new Drake album.
I say this another part, I wish, shout out to PND,
I just wish it was Future on some of them songs
instead of him.
Really?
What you like about the album?
I love the Give Me a Hug song.
Now here, imagine Future on that.
I love it.
Just Drake alone though.
Do we really need future on that?
Shout out to Pluto.
Nah, he don't need it.
He did his thing on that.
Nah, you know, Hug is crazy.
He did his thing on that.
I'll fuck with the type though.
I rock with it, man.
Shout out to Drake, shout out to Kendrick.
But yeah, those guys, bro, J Cole,
anybody that was great.
Like I've always been a friend of people that's great.
You know what I mean?
I used to argue with people when I was a kid
that would say Gucci man was better than Jay Z.
But they just didn't understand Jay Z at the time
because they was living the Gucci man life.
Niggas in the street.
You got to, cause it's all over opinion,
but when people, when you really in that life,
not saying y'all wasn't, but when people,
some people are programmed, like that nigga
is talking about literally what I'm doing.
That's how we was with Boosie though.
Yeah, like every,
what was Boosie like on y'all side?
Cause y'all from that Nap Town.
Jay Z on your side.
Boosie got in that, bro.
Nap Town a little different,
what was it like having Boosie over there?
He was like, like you said, he was like Jay-Z though.
If you attract artists at the Swiss at that time,
G-Z, Webby, Boosie, Gotti,
Missus, Baby Shire, so they now.
Jay-Z there and Boosie there is like.
Where you going to?
What's up?
What's up?
I don't know if y'all too old.
Y'all CD-O?
So y'all remember we used to have the CDs in the binder?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, then we old.
We're under 40.
Okay bet, bet, bet, right?
Niggas look good.
Niggas have all this shit.
But look, that was when you,
cause right now somebody could just send you a song,
you just add it to a library and take a second.
But back then the CD binder told me everything
I needed to know about who you fuck with.
So because you had to physically go to the record store,
buy this shit, you treated it different.
So if I open the nigga CD binder up, whoever's in there,
oh, that's who you really fucked with.
So if you open my shit, it was gonna have hard.
I had a lawn wired up.
I was burning the shit out of the CD.
I didn't even went to jail for that shit.
That was rough.
That was too short.
Shout out to LimeWire.
That's what fucked the game up.
Not yet.
LimeWire shit.
LimeWire was the beginning of streaming.
Yep.
A lot of people don't know it.
Spotify was the first paywall
that the industry could put streaming behind.
You had LimeWire, you had Bearishare, you had Napster.
Shout out to Bearishare. You had all these different platforms.
And in 2006, Spotify came with a creation
that Steve Jobs tried to give them in 1999
that the labels wasn't interested in,
but it all ended up turning into streaming.
Nah, yeah, cause y'all had too short,
but that was a real freaky tails over there
on that LimeWire, but that nigga had them movies going.
Oh, that boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy.
That boy. That boy. That boy. That boy. That boy. That boy. I'm always wanted to ask Teeqs something just because he one of my favorite people that I love to hear tell stories and speak.
What was your favorite city that you love to play in? Like that you that you wasn't on the team, man, but you love to go there and play.
As far as like the outside world or like Hooping. Hooping. I like to play in Utah. Ooh, Park City.
Yeah, cause there's nothing to do.
You can just focus.
They gonna be, I love when people against me,
like they booing me and shit, I'm fine with that.
And that's how it is in Utah.
So you can lock in, have a good game.
I play great in Utah every time.
Would you say you somebody that
performs better under adversity?
Yeah.
My back against the wall, I probably play better.
That's how I am as a rapper.
Like when I be feeling like niggas got me fucked up,
I write my best shit in the world.
So I can relate to that.
Outside of the Bay, what's your favorite place
to perform in?
Utah.
Park City, shout out to Jasmine Rose.
In Park City, Utah.
Oh, he did that?
No, he was doing shit.
I was like, Utah book is going crazy.
I was like, damn, Utah.
He's never performed in Utah every month.
I love Utah.
We just left Sundance Festival out there.
I actually got a movie coming out called Freaky Tales,
where I played two short 1987.
Oh, that's called all over, bro. Yeah, we just Tales, where I played 2 Short 1987. It's coming out in April.
Yeah, we just premiered it in Sundance in Utah.
We gonna be dropping the trailer real soon.
I think it's Andre Iguodala's Jersey retirement night
where we dropping the trailer.
I'm not supposed to say this, but it's club 520,
so fuck it, we here.
Come on, exclusive, man.
You playing short, that's-
That's fire.
2 Short 87, baby.
That's fire. What was 87 baby. That's fire.
What was like, I don't know about,
as well celebrity or artists that put you on a platform
like introduce you to the world.
Man, the nigga LeBron.
Bron changed my life.
Like literally Bron the reason I'm here.
That's why like when it come to Michael Jordan, I'm biased.
Every time they wanna have that go conversation,
I'm gonna run with LeBron,
because LeBron changed my life, man.
That's one person to where it's like,
he put my song in the front of Space Jam too.
You know what I'm saying?
He made sure I was taken care of on the red carpet.
He made sure I was seen.
He made sure I got with John Legend,
and he just rocked with my freestyles.
So he didn't have to do that.
You know what I mean?
And Draymond as well, shout out to both of them.
They both played a part in my come up,
so I'm forever embedded to them
and forever love them forever.
They're my big brothers right there.
Nah, that's for sure.
Listen, I know like making mixtapes,
making albums is different,
but that movie score, that's a different situation.
Oh yeah, especially when you control the music in there too.
Especially when you do that, it's a lot of fun. One thing that, um,
making a movie taught me is like why the music industry is not thriving right
now, because as a movie, it's a production.
I think one of the hardest things to do is get your team on one accord as a
whole. You know what I mean? And when you shooting a movie,
you got the camera guy, you got the director, you got whoever it may be,
they all in sync and music is not like that.
So I really enjoy shooting a movie
because I can appreciate the process of the production.
It's like a lot of ego involved in the music
that kind of hinders people from those.
When you got the movie sets, even podcast productions,
everybody got a role.
Everybody's trying to out sound each other.
Movie, everybody got to be in sync
or the movie's terrible, everybody getting fired.
Music, too much ego involved
and people just going straight with stuff.
That's why you see like legendary rappers
and producers break up.
It's like, y'all been making crap forever,
but little bitty stuff getting away.
Max, what's that like in sports, T?
Cause I know it's tough when the team ain't on one accord.
Break that down for us.
Yeah, it's different in the NBA
cause it's a money based league.
So if you on a max deal, obviously you got more pulled
than somebody on a minimum deal.
So it's never gonna be like one of court
because I'm trying to get paid.
I'm trying to get where you at.
So when I'm in the game, I'm trying to get my extra five
shots.
I'm trying to do whatever I do that I can get some more
money for my family.
So you never, that's why when I played in the NBA,
I didn't look at it like that.
Like I always make jokes about the league and stuff.
It was fun or whatever, but I knew it was a business.
Like I'm on a fast break,
and I got somebody who can jump behind me.
I'm not throwing the ball back.
I need my two.
Like the crowd not gonna be feeling that.
Like throw the ball back.
No, I need my two.
Average eight.
I got six.
I need my eight.
You know what I mean?
So it's kind of a weird league.
If you find a groove with a team
that everybody got paid already,
that's when you see the good team.
That's why when y'all had Oakland with the Warriors,
everybody had already been paid.
And that's another conversation
that we've been having now here too,
because since the Warriors left Oakland,
it felt like the Warriors lost that culture.
When we walk into the Chase Center, we love it.
We appreciate everybody there.
But when they were in Oakland, I knew the security guards.
You know what I mean?
It was never a time that where I was standing outside
and couldn't get into the players interest
or couldn't get into the arena
because people in Oakland knew who I was.
So shout out to everybody at the Chase Center.
But we are really missing that culture of what we had
when we were in Oakland versus what's at the Chase Center now.
When y'all played in Oakland, the vibe was way different.
Like I felt like we could win when we came to the Chase Center.
When you played in Oakland.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Rewind that, rewind that, rewind that.
What you mean you felt like you could win?
Like the vibe ain't the same.
Like we used to come to Oakland,
especially when y'all that run first started
with Stephen Clay, Mark Jackson, that whole area.
You knew you was losing when you came here.
The crowd was too much.
Like they had gone 15 point run so easy.
The crowd was too much.
When they got to the chase center, it was green.
It was green.
What was it like?
What was it like like having to go against that?
You got Clay on one side, you got Katie over there.
You got Draymond pushing the ball up to kick it to Curry.
That was cheating.
What was that like as a player,
as like somebody that's really out there
on the floor with them niggas, how confusing was that?
Your goal was just to make it to the fourth quarter.
If it was a close game by the fourth,
then you got a chance to win it.
Like, oh, we just gotta stay close to the fourth.
Man, that first quarter, if they go out
and go on a 20-0 run, they could do that.
They could hit five, six threes in a row,
and it's over with.
You done.
They gonna win by 30.
Because you can't shoot with them.
You couldn't keep up.
But if you can get to the fourth quarter
and make it interesting,
that's how you had to think about it when you played here.
But if that halftime, you down 15, it's over.
You might have, hey, we start making your plans, bro.
And this is where I'm going tonight.
And should you brought that up,
it's like the situation with Dallas,
like they're trying to get that resort, right?
So all the fans who've been around as organizations pissed
because they hardened souls into this.
But you look at the organization is like,
now we're about to build this resort.
We're about to get this bread.
So it's kind of the same situation.
It sucks when you successful because now it's time for more opportunity. We said the people along the way to build this resort, we about to get this bread. So it's kind of the same situation. It sucks when you successful,
because now it's time for more opportunity.
We said the people along the way to build the stuff,
they get lost in the situation.
But then people don't get looked at as people,
they get looked at as numbers in the situation.
Right, that's what I try to tell.
Me and Rad was having this conversation,
and I was talking about Raiders leaving
and going to Vegas,
and how that kind of fucked the city up.
The tailgate and all this shit around the surrounding Raiders
was like, that was like a lifestyle.
It was a part of art, you know what I'm saying?
The fabric of Oakland, and then when they left with them,
when you look at it, when they go from one of the like,
worst value teams in sports to like worth billions of dollars,
and then when you look at it from that aspect,
like how do you, how do you not do that?
You know what I'm saying?
Let me ask you a question.
So how do y'all feel?
All y'all in this room.
So when we was having that conversation,
I asked him, because sports has fans though, right?
And so the fans have to be into it.
Are we heading towards super corporate to where like,
I look back at old games and fans didn't even have jerseys on.
They didn't even have team gear on.
Like if you look at old NBA videos in the eighties,
it wasn't, apparel wasn't even have jerseys on. They didn't even have team gear on. Like if you look at old NBA videos in the 80s, it wasn't apparel
wasn't even selling like that.
So do y'all feel like sports is moving to that?
Just like we're going to be big and the team is going to be worth this,
but we don't care about the championships.
Well, I mean, championships don't necessarily make you valuable
unless you're trying to sell the team to an extent.
I mean, of course, you want to have a successful organization.
But look at the Dallas Cowboys.
We ain't won a Super Bowl since I was elementary school, but they're the most profitable
business in sports. Unfortunately, bro. It's a narcotic. I can't get it. Somebody had a Jerry
curl in that house. He had a little side hustle. You feel me? You have to say that in the Raiders
is the AFC equivalent to the Cowboys. Like we really the same friends.
Now our fans is different.
Y'all Raiders fans, respect.
Y'all moved differently than Cowboys fans.
Cowboys fans, they whatever.
Raiders fans.
But when I'm saying Jerry Jones is really out,
they philosophies in the way they get about it.
Jerry Jones is a better business man,
but out they philosophy on a team ownership of it.
It's the same. They in all the business. Yeah. You know what I'm saying team ownership is the same.
They in all the business.
You know what I'm saying?
They in the head zones.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
True.
Jerry Jones.
All the luxury bodies.
Damn for real?
Yeah.
Oh yeah, it's true.
Come on bro.
That's gangster.
He on the raiders.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
That's a good game.
It is.
For some reason it's a dope game.
Come on bro. Some of the shit I see Jerry Jones do, But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, look how long it took, look how much blatant shit had to happen for them to make him sell that team.
Yeah.
Yeah bro.
Let me ask you a question, man.
How y'all feel about the Niners though?
Let me say this, I'm a Niners hater.
I'm from outside.
Fuck them 49ers, man.
We Raiders fans.
Fuck them 49ers.
We Raiders fans over here, man.
Can I join?
Hold on, hold on.
We Raiders fans. Fuck the Niners say that Mike? Can I join? Hold on, hold on. We Raiders fans.
Fuck the Niners.
Hold on.
Get my good side.
You already, you already.
Fuck the 49ers, man.
We Raiders fans out here.
Manny, what's your favorite team?
49ers.
So let's see here.
But they go deeper than that.
Cause you know, Oakland is the blue collar city.
Yeah.
And San Francisco is like, they like the princesses
of the, you know what I'm saying?
They kind of like that.
The way, no they ain't.
We just got it.
We got it.
Get us canceled again.
I thought you were saying.
You got to, you got to, you got to.
You got to, you got to realize, we from Oakland.
Yeah, we're from out here.
I thought you were gonna say like the kings.
No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And when I say princesses,
I'm not talking about they are princesses.
I'm saying the way they are treated.
You know what I'm saying?
They apologize for the, we like the writers.
We like the step-childs of this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Iron workers, blue collar, that type of shit.
You know what I'm saying?
We get the worst of every day.
Real finessing. Real finessing. But we were all a culture. Iron workers, blue collar, that type of shit. We get the worst of every type.
Real finessing.
Real finessing.
But we were all a culture act.
Yeah.
So you had a fuck with Colin Kaepernick?
I got a theory about Colin Kaepernick.
Oh, do you?
I got a theory about Colin Kaepernick.
And I never said this, but we on club 520.
I'm with my nigga T, my nigga DJ Wales,
and my nigga B hand out the perlies.
I'ma say it.
I think that nigga got on that blackity black shit
cause he was playing terrible.
I think it started going bad and he was having a bad season
and he just started taking a knee to take attention
off his performance.
He wasn't even playing though.
He had a girl that opened his eyes up.
But he wasn't playing at that time though. When he started, he was coming off the bench at that time.
Well that ain't where I thought he was gonna go with that one.
I just always felt like it came out of nowhere.
Like it was just like, he it came out of nowhere.
Like it was just like, he just started taking a knee
one day out of nowhere.
And it was just like, where'd this come from?
Yeah. The time it could be, you know, be impeccable.
But yeah, the play was definitely the client.
So when Deon Sanders was on the Niners,
I ain't fucked with him either.
Hell yeah. That's prime time. We love him.
I did fuck with Prime, but I was a big Rod Wilson fan,
so you know, my closest homies just go back and forth.
Mern Hanes, huh?
I thought Rod Wilson was a better DB than Deion.
Oh, but you already might be.
I can say yeah, I'll borrow that mic.
Oh no, we gonna start that one.
Say again what you said.
No, no, no.
Nigga, Rod, Rod, Rod, Rod, Rod Wilson did it all.
Y'all remember Rod Wilson, right?
We do.
He did it all.
A lot of Deon, we really didn't get to see a lot of Deon
because they were scared to go his direction.
That's why I'm saying that.
They stayed away.
That's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying.
If you can make plays like that
because they not throwing my way.
I'm probably better.
But I just wanted that one clip
where I seen Deon just stick his head in.
Oh, now you're gonna get in that.
You're gonna get in that, bro?
No, no, no, no.
Nah, you gonna get shoot straight.
Now listen, we ain't Mitchell and Ness,
man, that Rod Woodson,
one of the hardest throwbacks of all time.
Oh, yeah.
The hardest sneakers?
Yeah, them sneakers was hard.
First sneakers with white laces.
First black sneakers with white laces.
It was, that was all the way over here though.
Yeah.
I'm the first.
Yeah.
Shout out to Rod.
Shout out to Rod, dude.
Shout out to Rod. We out to Ron, dude.
Shout out to Ron.
We gotta give Prime more light on his rap career though.
Y'all gotta stop paying up Prime.
Prime got a few classic verses.
He might get Shaq in a battle too.
You out of pocket.
No, out of pocket.
Shaq, no, out of pocket.
Shaq can't stop the rain with the hardest rap songs.
Yeah, Shaq might platinum. Can't stop the rain with the hardest rap songs. Yeah, Shaq went platinum.
Shaq might be the greatest NBA rapper.
Shaq might be the greatest NBA rapper.
Damn bro.
You right, damn.
You right, you right.
Y'all right.
Damn, shut out the damn.
Shut out the damn.
Jello about to clean Shaq up.
Jello looked terrible last night at the All-Star game.
I'ma just say it.
My man, I'm out of pocket.
My pocket.
Jello looked terrible last night.
Hey man, did you see my last performance? I'ma keep it real. They didn't hear the out of pocket. My pocket. Show was terrible last night. Hey man, did you see my performance?
I'ma keep it real.
That's the reason why they lost.
It looked terrible.
He performed in front of 70,000 people his first show.
That wasn't a good one.
The All-Star game was like,
who looked too light for him?
This is light bill for him.
If Dime didn't hoop, Dime could've took on a full wrap
and he got the charisma to take on a full wrap.
He do.
Yeah.
He got the swag.
He so disciplined, I feel like Dime could've
done whatever he wants to do.
Hold on, hold on, say it again. If Dime didn't hoop, I feel like Dane could do whatever he wants to do.
If Dane didn't hoop, y'all think he could've took on a full,
you think he got the charisma to take on a full rap career?
Yes.
He got the whole demeanor.
He showed everybody Oakland, like where he from,
like, and people gravitate and it goes across the world.
Like we really fuck with Dane.
Because yay hoop, but he feel like one of us.
And he from all the way out here, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
So I think he more relatable than everybody else
that rap to the masses that played in the league.
Nah, but Terrence Sabalas is my nigga
on some other shit though.
Off the court.
The real CC, no cap in the Clark.
He was on Living Single, what you want him on?
Everything, biggie. He was on a TV show.'s the one he was on? Everything, biggie.
He was on a TV show.
Lee Kamiyos.
Yeah.
Was it Hang On Mr. Cooper?
Yeah, Mr. Cooper too.
Now Oakland.
I got a question for y'all.
How did y'all all meet?
Me and DJ went to high school together.
Okay.
I went to Butler, and here, neighborhood is where Butler is.
If you don't know what Butler University is,
it's right next to the ghetto.
They told me you had no left hand. Oh me? Nah, I got a Butler is. If you don't know what Butler University is, it's right next to the ghetto. They told me you had no left hand.
Oh me?
Nah, I got a burner though.
Okay.
Uh.
I'm a one street pony baby, but he paid the bills,
God damn it.
Him and Shell was super cool.
We looked up on campus on some shoe shit.
So me and him tapped in that way.
Me and Freaky Mike worked at Foot Locker together.
And B. Hen catereded his wedding so like,
it's crazy 60 days of Shelf Merchant type shit for real.
Yeah, that's dope man.
I met my guys for a minute man.
I met B-Hen, he talk shit all day.
He talked about shoving Mac,
me and shoving ended up being real cool
but he said shoving was better than me randomly.
Yeah, I made these niggas like best friends.
So I'll tell y'all the story.
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So we come around, I've been knowing him for a while
because I used to open up the brother gym
and they used to have, when he was in high school,
he used to come and kill like all the old heads
from my hood, like him, Jeremy Mix, and he was the all of them.
You know what I mean?
They was some big killers.
But once we got grown and kind of circled back around,
you know, everybody like, T-Gone, like, nigga, fuck T-Gone,
my nigga, share a little league, nigga. But nigga fuck T, my nigga Shea Littleth, nigga.
But just popping shit, but he was shitty.
Cause I had met him outside,
we used to go to this shit called Music Mondays.
Everybody like nah bro, T cold, I'm like he is cold,
but my young is coming up.
So my nigga, he got drafted to the Wizards,
and we got like a Pro-M game.
So Jeff, I don't give a fuck about nothing else.
Nigga, Zach Randolph, John Wall,
no, it's some hitters in that business.
Like for real, you know what I mean?
Everybody thinking he hoopin'
because he a nap for the city.
Nah, it's like videos of him pointing at me, nigga,
like fuck you, nigga, this sad ass nigga.
Yeah, so my nigga Shilva called her quick.
I don't know what this nigga had.
Best game of his life.
He ain't even know.
He was looking at me like, what's up? Like why you so aggressive? I don't know what this nigga had. Best game of his life. He ain't even know.
He looking at me like, what's up?
Why you so aggressive?
They been talking to me saying this nigga sad.
I'm like, this nigga sad.
They like, what the hell?
Cheryl ain't know B.H. was instigating the homecoming.
I'm not even really paying attention.
I'm like, man, that's what he supposed to do.
They get rookie.
I'm arguing with Oscar Robertson people in the crowd,
his nephews and shit.
Like talking to them about how sad they uncle was.
That's all he do is talk shit.
No, but then that's just, that became my guy, man.
We've been locked in damn near 15 years.
That was in 2012, I can't remember.
Yeah, so that's 13 years.
Teague, I heard you're welcome to the NBA moment before,
but what was the moment where you was like,
damn, I wasn't ready for that?
Like, what was a moment that just caught you
totally off guard in the NBA?
How much money people really got?
That's the thing that caught me off guard.
Like, you hear people make millions and stuff.
So one day, not to tell this bit, fuck it,
I'm gonna tell you, you can look it up.
So we used to get check stubs, right?
And you a rookie, I got my check stubs,
I think mine was probably like 86,000
for the two weeks or whatever.
I'm like, damn, I just grab Joe's,
let me see what Joe's shit look like.
That shit said two million, two million?
Shout out to Joe Johnson.
I'm like, yeah, I gotta figure some shit out.
Like this is my life.
You getting this in two weeks?
I was like, yeah, that was like the first thing.
So I, cause I couldn't understand it.
Like you, you a young dude, you coming in,
you come in the money.
My mom and dad didn't have money,
so I ain't come for money.
I just told one of the young homies last night,
he was trying to, he was trying to get some soft legs
that belongs to somebody that play on the Celtics.
And I was like, man, that nigga got a max contract,
leave her alone.
Yeah, yeah, that's why I just love him, bro.
You can't compete with that max contract, buddy.
He experienced a lot of that in ATL.
So you saying it ain't nobody out here
knocking down nobody girl that got a max contract?
It's a broke nigga with some good **** out here ****ing **** out a max contract right now.
I'm just saying.
I'm just saying.
Well y'all boys wild in the bank.
This is how I brought the coaching with me.
B.E. sound like shortartner. What's your favorite work?
What's my favorite work?
What's my favorite work?
So y'all come on our show at At the Food.
Where are everybody else?
Niggas answer questions all proper as shit.
Yeah, you gotta watch yourself out here.
They will back down. Be selective where you take your girl with you.
These niggas will back down.
Man, outside of that, we in the party yesterday.
This nigga talking to me, he said, yeah, there's 20 of them that can't get in. before you take your girl with you out here. This niggas was back though. Man, outside of that, we in the party yesterday.
This nigga talking to me, he said,
yeah, it's 20 of them that can't get in.
They'll rob everybody in here.
I'm like, well, nigga, make sure
all the motherfuckers get in here.
Come on, this nigga.
I'm with him.
I have my wallet right here.
Yeah, I know.
I got my shit snuggled in.
What the fuck?
What did y'all be forgetting is how much it cost
to live out in this motherfucker?
I don't know.
We didn't forget we was out.
One of my guys live out here.
He's like, man, y'all gas only $3?
I'm like, yeah.
What the fuck is $6 for gas?
That's some different shit.
So he like, there's 20 beautiful things
outside ready to touch.
I'm like, what they fashion number dress look like?
Who got on the wall pieces?
I really want to send a shout out to a lot of the big homies who've been working behind
the scene to make sure this weekend was beautiful.
It's a lot of things that could have went down that didn't go down.
So we want to send a shout out to them and shout out to the whole Bay Area, the NBA,
everybody that allowed this to happen.
Man, we don't get this a lot.
It's been 25 years since we had the All-Star Game here. I was a kid when I seen Vince Carter go
between the legs, pause.
But to have this back in the city just to see my people,
you know what I mean?
My brother Rad was with the head of the NBA last night.
My brother Brownie was at the Chase Center
hosting an event for us to be able to have this
for y'all to be here, you know what I'm saying?
That's why when I see you, I'm like, bro,
whatever y'all need y'all straight.
Cause we appreciate y'all for even getting on that flight
and coming out here and fucking with us, bro.
Show me, we feel the love too man.
Shout out to Mitchell and this man.
You talk about the 25th anniversary,
they whole caption, I mean, excuse me,
the whole collection that they have for this.
Like you see the Vince Jersey up here.
You see the OG Shag Jersey with the tag.
Like that's a real big All-Star game
for a lot of members of people growing up.
So especially for y'all who y'all saw it firsthand,
we influenced 25 years later still being here.
Yeah, sir. Yes, sir.
That was a big game for us, man.
Vince did a lot for us with that.
Shout out to Jason Richardson too.
Cause he was the following year, 2001,
I think it was in like Philly or something like that.
He went there and did the crazy between the legs joint,
but he had that Warriors jersey on and he was reppin' for us
and that really made the city down.
So shout out to that whole We Believe team,
J. Rich, Baron Davis.
I seen my brother Matt Barnes last night,
Steven Jackson out here, and even my nigga Gilbert Arenas
who played for the Warriors before, man.
Shout out to everybody that ever came to the city
and fucked with us.
I wanted to ask you too, bro, back to the music shit,
like what's your favorite freestyle you've done so far?
Cause you're just incredible shit, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Straight up.
This nigga freestyles, great.
They all be different.
They all be different for me here,
like everyone means something different.
You know what I mean?
Like I probably was pissed off one day
when I wrote the LA Leakers joint,
but I was feeling myself when I wrote the fire
and the booth joint.
You know what I mean?
So it's just, everyone be different for me.
But if I had to pick one, I would say the Funk Flex joint.
I would say when I went to Funk Flex,
and not the Tupac part, but when I broke down,
just what happens to us as young black men with success.
You know what I'm saying?
We get money, we come from these impoverished communities
to where a lot of our friends have the sin of familiarity.
A lot of niggas be hanging with the next Michael Jordan,
don't even know it.
Be with the next Jay-Z and don't even know it
because they your friend.
You know what I mean?
And I was rapping from that perspective
just to show like how it ain't fair
to where we get in these positions.
And we had a dream of certain people being in that dream.
And then you get there and it's like, oh, you can't go.
You know what I mean?
Everybody ain't meant to go.
So if I had to pick one,
I would definitely say the Funk Flex.
What's the process with that though?
Is you going in like, hey, I'm gonna do this beat
or you already kind of know what you gonna say
or it's just more so like,
I'm on the spot, I'ma.
I'm one of them people here in the world,
I just let life happen, bro.
Yeah.
Like I don't try to calculate nothing.
I just let it happen, like,
I wrote that funk flex verse three days
before I found out I was going up there.
Okay.
You know what I'm saying?
So I'm in Philly on tour with my nigga Joyner Lucas,
shout out to Joyner.
We on tour, and then my label had hit me like,
yo, Flex wants you to come up, rap.
I'm like, what BD want me to do?
They like Wu-Tang cream, best, say no more.
The whole way from Philly to New York, I'm writing.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm writing the verse, I'm rapping this shit in the phone.
I'm getting to the hotel at four in the morning
trying to memorize this shit
because I got to be there at seven a.m.
You know what I mean?
So it's a different process,
but I take my craft serious.
And when I lock it in,
I don't think it's too many people that can fuck with me.
Nah, you one of them ones, bro.
Like I said, it's so crazy that I,
like me and you building a relationship for short,
but bro, I used to post your shit
all the time on IG, bro, a couple years ago.
Now I was watching the episode
and somebody had yelled out,
Symba know how to hoop and Tee was like,
no he don't.
I seen him at the muscle game.
I only speak facts bro.
And him was like, nah, that's my nigga,
I'll fuck with him.
And I went back to like go DM you
and I had seen like you tagging me and shit before.
So it was like,
this is it.
I seen it bro.
I'm like, nah, this nigga is the one.
And you from all the way out here,
I didn't even know where you was from.
But my brother, he's like, nah bro, tap in.
He sent me, I forgot the first one I sent you,
it's in our DMs for sure.
But I was tagging you all the time
because I was really like, nah, he wanna do more.
I'm on everybody has this year pause.
Like I said, we on club 520, so I'm letting it be known.
I was in a crazy situation that I just got out of,
and I'm a free man now,
and I think all y'all should be afraid.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Speaking of, we don't have to talk about the label or nothing.
What did you learn from that though?
Never dropping till your team on one of the court.
If your team ain't on one of the court,
especially when you in them buildings,
every department got a line, right?
So the marketing side gotta be aligned
with the product manager.
The product manager gotta be aligned with the A&R,
the A&R gotta be aligned with the executive.
If all this shit ain't aligned,
when the executive come downstairs to spend the money,
you look like you ain't got your shit together
and then you end up falling to the mercy of that.
So a lot of times, I will put my destiny
in other people's hands and I'll slowly start taking it back
and I'll never do that again.
Okay, for sure, for sure.
Damn that kinda hit home, huh?
Niggas had a moment of silence.
What you think?
It's awesome, girl.
Great tell us what happened.
It's a bomb.
Silence.
God bless to the new journey.
So what's next?
We on tour?
What we doing?
Yeah, we got tour on the way,
but the thing that I'm most excited about is this new movie,
Freaky Tales with Tom Hanks and Pedro Pascal
coming out this April.
That's big, bro.
I'm super excited about it.
I got the opportunity to play one of my idols too short
in 1987.
You gonna ball?
You say what?
You gonna cut all your sugar?
I got the hat on.
I had the hat on.
I ain't have to go ball, but the teeth look crazy.
When y'all see me with the teeth, it's gonna be crazy.
Yeah.
They got us.
They got us.
Shout out to Macro, shout out to Lionsgate.
But that was phenomenal for me.
That's what I'm super excited about
and getting back to the music.
Getting back to the music.
Nah bro, you deserve all that shit bro, for real.
Where I've been going,
I didn't even trip to all-star weekend.
Niggas feel like you could have played Anthony Edwards.
This nigga like Anthony Edwards, too.
Everywhere I go, they be thinking this nigga is Edwards.
You could, though.
You could, though.
You could, probably in 2017 when you was whooping, for real.
Hey, Adidas.
Not a lot here.
That'd be hard.
You were selling over a commercial.
That'd be hard, bro.
Hold on, hold on.
Let's make it happen.
Shout out to my dog, Langston at Adidas.
Okay.
Who works with AE, works with James, works with Dame.
Y'all been killing that AE campaign and commercials.
What a year.
Everything y'all been doing bro,
y'all been killing it man.
Shout out to y'all over at Adidas.
Come on man, Adidas will be locked in.
Shout out to Cam, shout out to Allen for sure.
Wanna ask you this man, I know your freestyles,
they go crazy, but like what's that feeling like, what that first feeling when you. I wanna ask you this man, I know your freestyles, they go crazy, but what's that feeling like,
or that first feeling when you got your stage moment,
you like, I-Rod, that first concert, like, I hear now.
I still don't feel like that.
Really?
I still don't feel like that, DJ.
I still feel like I got shit to do.
I got shit to prove, you know what I mean?
So even when I'm up there,
and I hear people screaming the lyrics,
or one of my songs people sing a lot when I perform
is Can't Win For Nothing.
It's a euphoric feeling, but it's also like I could do more.
I could be bigger, I could beat this.
You know what I'm saying?
I hear where the drums could be better.
I hear where I got lazy on the lyric.
I hear where I was just trying to win the crowd over
with the hook and now it's like how how do I authentically be me with this
no matter what I'm doing and I'm owning that now
and I'm stepping into it and I'm not allowing
no motherfucker to force my process.
I'm gonna take my time.
Rather it take me a year, two years, three years.
I'm gonna get it right but I'm gonna take my motherfucking
time and when that time is right, y'all gonna see it.
Most definitely.
For sure, man.
We always ask people like they go to Mount Rushmore.
I know you said you rocked with Jay-Z.
But like we grew up, like we said,
we listen to Boosie and shit,
but Lil Wayne, when we was growing up.
Goat.
Man, he was like the guy.
I was wondering where you bring Lil Wayne
as far as like your favorite rappers.
T, you my nigga, man, I hate that you asked me this
because I can't lie to you.
I love Wayne.
I think it was tough for us to grow with the music
as it got older.
Yeah.
I think he has a phenomenal catalog,
but it's certain things to me
that I feel like could have been enhanced
or could have been whatever it may be, but he's a legend.
I always got Wayne in my top 10,
but I'm somebody that choose quality over quantity.
So when it come to artists, I'm always run with Jay Z.
I feel like his taste level was unmatched.
Kendrick Lamar, the taste level was unmatched.
It's just certain Drake even, you know what I mean?
It's certain people to where it's just like,
they put a certain effort into the music
that we never heard before, we never seen.
They changed the sound of things.
We was just having a conversation about Drake
and we were saying like, Drake, like created the industry standard to
where like, if, if you were somewhere close to that, you
will be successful. Right. So it's hard to now that Kendrick's
the guy is hard to follow that, because it's so authentically
him, but Drake kind of created a, a stat a standard for
everybody to kind of be like, hey, here's where we go with this thing.
And I feel like-
But then Wayne do that too though?
Went out as rappers.
Yeah.
As rappers.
So as rappers, to me, he's one of the greatest rappers ever.
But when it come to like song making,
Drake took it to another level.
Kendrick took it to another level.
You know what I mean?
I see what he's saying.
So, you know what I mean? So, you know what I mean?
So I salute everybody and I don't want this to feel like
I'm bashing one of my idols,
cause Wayne has done things I probably never do in my life.
I look up to him, I study him, I love him to death,
but I feel like Drake and Kendrick and certain people
just took the song making ability to another level.
It's like what you always say with championships,
like I was saying, the team won, they set the tone, right?
Drake was winning for a very long time
as far as industry standards and numbers wise.
So then Kendrick come in,
and all right, now how do you copy Kendrick?
That's like trying to copy Kawhi
getting that ring in Toronto.
You can't do that shit.
That's an anomaly.
You can build a good team,
you can build a Warriors team dynasty add to that
like Drake had, but you can't go get Kawhi to go somewhere,
get one and go out.
I agree.
That's a fact.
Like Drake has had like three successful rap careers
in one month.
Only people realize he been at the top of the game
for 15, 16 years.
You know what I'm saying?
That's tough bro.
Drake came in what, 2010?
2009, he came.
So far gone was 0 year. So far gone was, y'all here?
So far gone was, oh wait, right?
Yeah, that's what shit changed.
That's a long time, the beat at the top, bro.
How y'all feel about rappers at halftime performances?
I've been hearing people say the Kendrick shit
was not so good, but in my opinion,
I'd be like, damn, what more could he have done
to make it a better show?
That's why we trying to figure out, like,
what can a rapper do if he not a dancer or a break dancer?
You know what I mean?
Like, what could you do?
I don't think rappers should,
not saying they shouldn't do half-time shit,
but if it's gonna be a rapper,
it gotta be like how LA did it,
where all those rappers gave you different.
Yeah, they can't be one dude cause they don't dance.
I think one thing people are upset about,
and I'm a big Kendrick fan,
is we didn't get the set list we were looking for right?
But the dope part about it is,
he took a world platform and made it his motivation
and what he had going on.
That's the dopest shit ever to me.
I don't care what y'all talking about.
I'm here for one reason and one reason only,
and I showed the world this shit.
That's a hell of an accomplishment.
That's dope, we just don't wanna see another,
nothing like that again. Shout out, look, and I'm all, I'm all for the Black Mesa.
He's, you hate no more nigga Doc.
Oh, I'm on now, can I have a moment?
Is you hate no more nigga Doc?
No, I love Doc.
Swimming pool's one of my favorite songs, nigga.
The real swimming pools.
What are you saying right now?
Listen.
I'm all ears.
Yeah, so look bro, the halftime show is a different platform. Like Kendrick doing that, he's the only one, that's what I'm all ears. Listen. I'm all ears. Yeah, so look bro, the halftime show
is a different platform.
Like Kendrick doing that, he's the only one,
that's why I'm saying we don't wanna see it no more.
He's the only one that can do it
and make his mark and everybody respect it.
We loved what he did.
But bro, we don't wanna see
Nick's year of Common do the same thing.
We don't wanna see Lupe Fiasco do the following year.
You know.
I can't argue with that.
Yeah, so bring my nigga Future.
No.
And drop Marshall Madness.
Push back to Super Bowl.
It'll be a mess.
56 Nights on the Super Bowl's crack.
56 Nights on the Super Bowl.
The dance is gonna come out
and then lean bottles are brought up.
Y'all done pissed these white people off so bad.
Oh, they going back white.
Yeah.
What?
Kelly Clarkson is pulling up.
Kelly Clarkson.
So y'all better enjoy them kids
with the bar T-shirts while you can.
Who they get next year?
I don't know bro.
Molly, Molly too though.
She done.
Justin Bieber.
Jay-Z running through his roster first.
Nah, Justin Bieber.
He got that contract.
He do bro, but I feel like you gotta go with somebody
not in the studio.
Lady Gaga or something by the way.
But I think we forgot real quick
how the Super Bowl used to look, the halftime performance.
You gonna have AC DC Metallica playing with her
and some other rap, Nick McLemore coming out to cut
with a little verse.
But if Kendrick could have did his thing for sure,
like I said, we all respected it, it ain't no hate,
but he could have brought out more people, sort of appeased some more. Like bro, you gotta think, I said, we are respected. It ain't no hate, but he could have brought out more people
so that it appeased some more.
Like bro, you gotta think, I'm just gonna keep it real.
And all you fake conscious ass rappers, nigga, fuck y'all.
Cause niggas don't keep it real, bro, on my soul.
All women watch Super Bowl for the halftime show, my nigga.
So I don't care about all what niggas is talking about,
bro, that is an entertainment moment
for people's families, bro.
So they wanna see they pop star,
like all of our girls listen to Lil Wayne.
So if he would have popped out, bro,
they would have been singing along too
and engaged in that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
I think it was on brand for Kendrick
just because it was a buck the system moment.
Yeah, oh yeah, exactly.
So also, and we got to remember this,
he performed the songs he owned.
So he was really fighting against the system with that one.
This was like, I ain't trying to come back.
Nigga don't invite me.
Nah, right, right, right, right.
But Kendrick, he was a streaker.
You know, somebody be in the crowd and they run.
They run across the field.
He's all like, He didn't tell me.
That's how I'm crazy.
You open niggas, I'll fuck with y'all.
They called out a street girl at the Super Bowl.
Nah, check your niggas.
You said I was hate.
He just called this nigga a street girl.
He took that.
Kendrick took that moment to do it, to protest it.
So he was a street girl at the Super Bowl, man.
I get it.
I get it.
You got my nigga, I get what you saying.
I get what you saying.
No Mr. Messi, say it.
I get what you saying.
I get what you saying, though.
Well, that nigga's crazy, man.
Nah, bro, we ain't all that serious ass shit.
Child of Serena, put some bad bitches out there, man.
Get them cheerleaders. all that serious ass shit, shout out to Serena, put some bad bitches out there, man.
Get them cheerleaders in that one.
Oh, sick.
Machao.
Y'all ride Grand National, don't you?
Let's go, people out there got something to say.
Yeah, let's go.
Machao, yeah, we tired.
Shout out to Dot, too, man.
Kendrick, Kendrick been killing it
for West Coast culture
this last year man.
That's my dog right there.
He supported me before anybody knew me.
So I always got love for my nigga.
Shout out to Dot.
Shout out to K Dot for sure man.
Appreciate y'all for slime bro.
Listen man we done had a hell of a weekend man.
It's like right we're wrapping up with the gang here man.
Shout out to Mitchlin.
That's one more time we appreciate y'all man.
And like I said man I appreciate y'all
for allowing my brothers to come.
Yeah bro, for sure.
This Bay Area shit mean a lot to us bro.
It's not just about me, it's not about him,
it's not about him, it's about us.
So when we can move as a unit and people allow us
to do that, we gon' continue to do that
and we appreciate y'all for being here.
Y'all always welcome bro.
Appreciate what y'all do for the culture, man.
We gonna continue to support you.
Be here and I told you when you get off the plane,
I got your ass ready for you.
Let's get it.
And on that note, we out.
Say out the prolly's, bitch.
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