Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Tony Allen looks back at 2008 NBA Finals with Celtics & Lakers, COOKING Kevin Durant

Episode Date: February 24, 2025

We’re back with Season 3, Episode 36 of Club 520, and Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Tony Allen where he talks about playing and winning an NBA title with the Boston Celtics, as well as cooking Kevin Durant. Tony Allen tells a story of NCAA tournament loss to Will Bynum and Georgia Tech, journey of going from dropping out of high school to the NBA, and Jeff’s story of TA cooking Josh Smith when the Grizzlies played the Hawks. Timeline 0:00 - Start 2:00 - The real "TA" 12:30 - Jeff's hilarious TA story 23:00 - Final Four vs Bynum 33:00 - Celtics era 56:00 - Cooking KD #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Official collab, man. We starting off with a with a special guest, man. Special, special guest in the building. We're going to use my man's last to my far left. We got my dog, Bishop B. Hennin' out the Pearlies, how you doing, Nasdy? What's happening, Nasdy? Let's get to it, I'm excited for this one.

What's up, Nasdy? She's my guy. Listen, you see how B. Hack with he out of town, man. He ain't in uniform at all, you know, just the vacation clothes, man. I promise you, he sharp, man. You spiffy today, man. My dog, what size is him?

He's a, I think a 12. All right, I owe you something, bro. And then this is my license, bro. Okay. I'm gonna grab you a pair before we get out of here. I just run a little behind today. I got you some black forces on the way. Dig that, man.

So you about to put him on some black forces with the white license? Yeah. The grandfather? Yeah. It's very fitting. It's very fitting. It's very fitting.

It's very fitting. It's very fitting. I just need to get your shoes on before we go left the city so I got you nasty. Yeah, for sure. To my right we got my dog, young Nacho, young Tig. How you work? Man, I finally touched down in the Bay,

so I'm hyped to be here. I'm glad to be here, all star. And we got a special guest, the real grandfather. I'm gonna let you do the great. The real TA. You know what's hope it is. I'm so was watching, I said, man, hold on, what's the description?

I had, well, these don't understand. No, he told me, we was in Chicago, the only TA got in, nothing real, the only TA. I said that's the only one I knew. He ain't gotta look down, just look around, man, for real. For sure, man, 40 year vet, ABA champ, one of the best defenders of all time, man. Part of Out the Mud podcast, if you ain't tapping, tap in him.

The dog Z-Bot holding it down for sure. The one and only man, Tony Allen, big dog. Appreciate you sliding on this, baby. Love, man, love. You know what time it is, man. Midwest podcast in the building, man, for sure. Yeah, yeah, man. What's been going on with y'all, man?

I like what y'all doing, man. I appreciate y'all having me. Nah, we glad to have you, bro. But we gotta talk about this real T.A. Yes, sir. Now, the NAS is out to Tecumpo. Yeah. And you know, big shout out to him, man,

but I ain't gonna lie, man. My body at work, man, what I do, man, I ain't gonna lie, it ain't even that feel, man. My, ain't no black and white. It's just straight up and down, you feel me? Nah, for sure. So when y'all was talking about it, I'm like, hold on. They ain't gonna throw first team on that motherfucker?

They ain't gonna separate that? I had to show some respect. I said, well, hold on, I usually let y'all get your shit off, but I only know one and that's the guy for sure, man. So T.A. know how this podcast work. Anytime somebody falls off, we know it's gonna piss somebody else off.

What? We didn't even know it was Washington. It's never leave. Bro, y'all are being watched, bro. All my homies be telling me, bro, you gotta get on the 520, man. You gotta, I say, bro, I'm gonna get on. Just relax.

But I'm watching y'all straight up, bro. It's long overdue, man. I'm here. I wanna get back to the beginning, man. How you end up at Crane, man? First, we know you from Chicago. Yes, sir. How you end up at Crane, man? First, we know you from Chicago. How you land at Crane? Man, wild story, man.

Before I even got to Crane, man, I had dropped out of high school, man. I had... What grade? Shit, freshman year. Oh, as soon as you started. Well, not really when I started. Once the grades came out, and I found that I couldn't play

no high school basketball with me, had that GPA or your grades up. It was like, man, I'm going to a school with shit. It was like a fashion show, damn near. I went to Julian at first. Y'all familiar with Sean Dockery? I went to his school before he got there. He was average at 50 out there.

Yeah, yeah, he was doing his thing. But when I was there, shit, I was like, man, hold on. I need to keep these Air Force 1s fresh. I need to, you know what I'm saying? So the only way I could do that, if I gamble. So I gamble in the PE classes, lunch classes. By the time I look up, shit, the school day over with. So I wasn't even really going to school.

And then, you know, that led to another thing, you know, being outside. And when you're outside, you know what come with that. So by the time I looked up, bro, I don't know, man, I saw my life flash before me because I was outside, bro. I was hustling, I ain't gonna hold you. And a couple of bullets went past my head

and you know, that was my turning point saying, you know what, man, this ain't for me, bro. I'm six-five, six-four and doing all this, like this ain't me. And till this day, I don't even speak to my cousin. Cause the type of time he had me on. He got me out here doing this shit. I'm a whole pro out here.

You feel me? And then that specific day, we got a program called the IIT. I don't know if y'all are familiar with it. Yeah, I do. And one day, that day specifically when it happened, I got in a jet livery cab, boom, shot past. I'm looking to the writers, I said, damn, what are all these cars being out here?

They got Benz's, Range Rovers. I'm like, what the hell, where's all these people going? Talking about just leaving the block, shoot right to the thing. I'm thinking I gotta pay, it's free to get in. I'm like, why are so many people here? And then I ran into my boy Jason Strait. Y'all probably don't know, he played at Wyoming.

But I'm asking him, fool, like, man, what you doing up here? He's like, we finna play, you still hoop? I'm like, yeah, he like, what you hooping? I was embarrassed. I'm like, bro, I dropped out. I don't play, bro. He like, come on, hoop, I hoop. In that game, we played Sean Marion.

Sean Marion was, you know, he was doing his thing and then, shit, I ended up having like 18 points. But I was still wondering like, why all these people are here? The next game was Antoine Walker and Will Bynum. Y'all know Will Lathre? So listen, they in the stands watching me play. And so when I leave up at the game,

you know, you gotta go downstairs in the locker room, go downstairs in the locker room, Go downstairs in the locker room, Will like, man bro, like I need you. Like I'm like, what you mean you need me? He's like, bro, you can hoop, bro. I'm like, what you hooping at? I'm like, bro, I dropped out. And so the head coach was Coach Anthony Longstreet,

shout out Anthony Longstreet, who coached me at Crane. He was all arrogant, you know, we'll bind him as man. You know, so he just, you know, yeah, how your grades? You know, just, yeah, okay, yeah. Like just tough on me for no reason. And so Will was like, man, skip all that, bro. I can get you in school, bro. I just took the blue division.

When you in the blue division in Chicago, that mean that's the weakest division. You gonna play all the bullshit team. But when you in the red division, that's all the big time school. So you gotta win the. But when you in the red division, that's all the big time school. So you gotta win the blue division to get in the red division. So the top team in the blue division goes, moves up.

All the team in the red division drops down. And so he was explaining that process to me and I get you in school, so boom. Imagine my momma had already put me out. Like you ain't going to school, ain't no living in here. Yeah, shut up. So it got to the point where it's, I'm finna go back to school. Real just say, give me a school.

Magic, I don't even know where Crane at. Okay. I don't even know where Crane, never heard of Crane. And so when I went back to my, where I lived at, on 95th Prison Park, shout out Prison Park, Lone Homes, to be exact. When I went back, park, shout out prison park, loan homes to be exact. When I went back, bro, all the guys like,

bro, where you been at? Just standing there other. And I go to my mama crib, there's nobody in there. Like the furniture gone, like the dojo's open. Like damn, what the hell where my mama go? They like, bro, your mama moved out about like a month ago. Damn. Damn. And I'm like, oh, like damn, what the hell? Where my mama go? Like, bro, your mama moved out about like a month ago. Damn.

Damn. And I'm like, so then boom, went back, got in the cab, went to my grandmama house, got to my grandma house. I said, grandma, where my mama live at? She was like, well, baby, she say she moved. She, you outside doing what you ain't supposed to be doing. She don't want you around the kids. And this, that, and other, you trying to be grown, be grown.

I said, grandma, I'm finna go back to school. She say, well, baby, your mama live 2150, rest random. Grandma, grandma gangsta. She said, yeah, she moved on the West side. And this was God because when I looked up and I called my mama, I'm like, mama, I wanna come, I wanna come back home. And she, you know, she laid her law down.

You either gonna go to school, get a job, da da da da, this and that. But when I told her I'm going to school, she really didn't believe it. And so when I got there, she like, what a school. I'm like, it's called Crane. She still like, she like, boy Crane down the street. Damn.

Just so happened when she moved to the West Side, it was a five block radius. I said, damn. Meant to be. I said, it was meant to be, but shout out to Will Bynum because he the one that, you know what I'm saying, put that play together and that's how I got there. Oh, okay.

That's crazy, man. You got a wild ass story. I didn't know that. Did y'all win the chip? No, we ain't win no chip. I ain't gonna lie. That blue, y'all never made it to the red. Hell no.

Hell no. I ain't gonna lie, We took that blue, y'all never made it to the red. Hell nah. Hell nah. I ain't gonna lie. It's a team called Westinghouse. And they got head, they had these cats named the Bailey brothers, they had Martell Bailey, David Bailey, and Cedric Banks. Those guys was like, they was winning. I don't think they lost the game.

Damn. I don't think they lost the game, but it was like, damn, like we couldn't get past them. If I go look at Chicago preps, you gonna be on there? No, that shit came soon as I graduated. Oh, okay. I used to watch preps. I used to be like damn.

Yeah, preps was big. That was the first reality TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was lit. I was like damn, so you had EC. Yup. Shit. Dap.

Jace Strait was on that too. Yup. Shit. Doc, Doc was on that. Jason Strait was on that too. Yup. Yup. Eddie Carey. All them cats was just, it was big. I ain't gonna lie to that. Whoever put that together, that was dope. That was dope.

I used to watch that shit religiously. Who the best high school player to come out of Chicago to you? Just your opinion. Outside of the road. Put him on the spot. Nah, just high school though. Just high school. Yeah, let's just do high school.

Man, we got a lot of cats. But if I'm gonna get somebody some love, if I'm gonna get somebody some love, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Amari Sawyer. He had a Puma commercial. In high school? In high school. Damn.

What's the name again? Amari Sawyer. I do your Googles. How do you do? He went to DePaul, went to DePaul. I ain't gonna lie. When I saw him with that commercial, I ain't gonna lie. I was like, damn, I gotta step my game up. And I'm talking about he went to King High School. He played with Leon Smith. So he was nice.

I'm talking about crossover, no look passes. I'm talking about throwing lobs. And then he'll give you 30. Small guard. He like 6'1", 6'1". He decent. Louis Statham. It's about no look passes. I'm talking about throwing lobs. Then he'll give you 30. Small guard. He like six one, six one. He's decent.

Little Louise tapping. Y'all definitely got to. We got a lot of them though bro. We got a shit. You had Michael Herman. He went to King. Got Cedric Banks. He went to Western House,

the team I was telling y'all about. What about old boy that played with, in Brian class, went with Monica? Shannon Brown. Shannon Brown. Yeah, Shannon Brown. Shannon Brown. Shannon Brown.

Shannon Brown. We got a lot of hoos, always get on Z-Bo head. I was like, man, you're not gonna. Y'all right behind us. I know, you're right behind us. That's what I'm talking about. Hold on. So letall right behind us. I know, you're right behind us. Hold on, hold on. So, let's try and lead. We got a lot of them, bro.

Y'all right behind us. Corey McGatty, Quinn Richardson, we taking in Eagle Dollar. Y'all taking in Eagle Dollar. No. Come on now. Y'all can't do that. Come on now.

I got ET too, though. Me and Evan Turner. They got Evan Turner, Mon Shepard. Come on now, we loaded. I got some shit. I got and Evan Turner. I got ET. Evan Turner, Mon Shepard. Come on now, we loaded. I got some shit. I gotta get my OGs a little. Jwan Howard, Mike Finley. And Twan Walker.

Twan Walker. You feel? You know who underrated, even though he made it. Bobby Simmons, come on. John Shire. John Shire from Chicago. Got buckets. He killed, he killed.

John Shire starts his high school. Chicago crazy. No, for sure. Against quality comp. For sure. He killed a high school. Let's not, Shara Shara's high school. Kygo crazy. No, for sure. Against quality cops. For sure. Yeah, he killed a high school. Let's not forget that. I can't think too many people notice our style of basketball

because I, like, one thing about our basketball, bro, we gon' clear it out. Yeah, y'all gon' We gettin' our program cleared out. Most definitely. Y'all one on one. Hold on, one thing too though. Don't forget that defensive stance like I ain't goin'.

Send that motherfucker somewhere else. You feel me? You feel me? Like we fucked up. You feel me? And so that's how that is, man. And I ain't gonna lie, bro. I get that type of energy when I played in the league

because it was like, bro, y'all steady running four, five plays and try to single me out, bro. This ain't the lick. Y'all better move somewhere else with that shit. For real. I got a story. We tried to run. You probably don't remember.

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y'all used to be like, this nigga dirty. This nigga had powder all on his shorts. Everything, like, I'm like, Dingo, man, this nigga give a fuck. Cause I play with- I'm white myself with baby powder too. I play with Joe and them. They do it all they here before the game.

When he ain't come out, he got to get the powder smacking on his legs. I'm like, look at this nigga uniform. So we try to run this out of bounds. This out of timeout play. He stole the ball four times in a row from smooth. Like he tried to make a pass, he stole it. He tried to do something else, he stole it.

And he stole it the third time. And they called a timeout, LD called a timeout. He was like, Smooth was like, no, run that shit, man. We got it. We gonna run this one. He stole it the fourth time. I was there, I was rolling. And he was running around like this.

I was like, first thing. Laying the ball up. And I'm like, this nigga cold on D. He just running around holding his finger. I'm like, and I'm on D, he just running around, holding his finger up. I'm like, and I'm just on the bench, I ain't playing at this time, I'm on a bench rolling. I'm like, keep the ball away from that nigga, man.

Smooth like, nah, I'm in it, nah. Nah, niggas ain't cutting right. He's a cut right straight, swear to God, I was running. I ain't gonna lie, man. Hey, one thing about, I always played Atlanta, I always feel like, shit, I want to play there. I ain't gonna lie, man. Hey, one thing about I always played Atlanta, I always feel like, shit, I want to play there. I ain't gonna lie, I worked out for them. In my, when my pre-draft workout.

And I'm talking about Kilt, bro. I'm talking about Kilt. It was me, Daryl Wright, and Trevor Rees. And I think, what's his name, Donter Smith. Yeah, he got drafted. Yeah, they picked Donter Smith. They were telling me, they were talking to me, like they was gonna move up in the draft

and get me in this all up. I'm like, damn, and then they ain't drafted. They ain't do what they said they was gonna do. So, shit, every time I saw y'all, it was... It was probably better you went to Boston. Yeah, true that, true that. You going to Atlanta in 2005? 2004, yeah.

Me to the outside, yeah. BMMTA on the way, that's easy. Me, I ain't here. Me too, me too. It was outside, yeah. BMMTA on the way. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. I don't know. I came in, I came in at 09, and it still was popping outside.

Yeah, bro. At 04, woo. For sure. For sure, man, we gotta get to the college days. Obviously, we know you went to Juco, but you leaked out with one of the 520 alumni, baby. J Luke, man. For sure, J Luke.

That's my boy, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. And alumnus, baby. J Luke, man. For sure, J Luke. That's my boy, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. And the crazy part how he got there, man. Will Bynum was supposed to come. Will Bynum had just transferred from Arizona. To go to Tech, right? To Georgia Tech. But listen, he told my whole coaching staff,

hey, I'm on my way. I'm leaving Arizona, I'm through with this. I'm on my way. So we waiting, we waiting. Bro, the coaches calling me all night. Hey, where your boy at? Did he detour somewhere else? Where he going?

The boy went to Atlanta. Man, we wake up, man. We hear Will Bynum has committed to Georgia Tech. Boomie. I'm like, damn, so I'm calling him, he ain't answering. I'm like, all right. Then all of a sudden, John Lucas fell in our hand through the technical difficulty,

the technicality that he was going through with the Baylor situation. I'm pretty sure he told y'all about that. Yeah, that was real unfortunate, man. I ain't gonna lie. But, fortunate for us, you know, he came and was a big key to our success, man, and what we did there in Oklahoma State, man.

I'm talking about, every time, right? Every time, right, J. Luke be like, bro, we pros, we pro, we gotta act like pros. So once he was telling me that, I'm like, bro, Lee, I'm like, you right, we do gotta work hard. We gotta work hard. So once he told me that I would go to the gym at night, I'd catch him in the gym, boom.

He'd come to the gym at night, I'd try to get there before him. So now it's like, who gonna leave first? It be times where I'm talking about the gym, boom. He'd come to the gym at night, I'd try to get there before him. So now it's like, who gonna leave first? It be times where I'm talking about the man so clever, he act like he done, and then right when I go in and I'm done, he go right back out. So we had that like type of competitive nature

is just like, who gonna get that work in? And all while we played with each other, he always influenced me and told me like, bro, you a pro, like, he's like, I'ma get you there. He take credit for my success and getting to the pros. I don't know why. But. But he a big part of it though.

Yeah, I mean, I want thing he did, cause I ain't gonna lie, I never did get that motherfucker right. I'm clank, I'm the king of clanking that motherfucker. But I ain't gonna lie, he did put that battery in my back to say, bro, you gotta keep coming back and nice shooting. Not a scene, you can get up like two,

three thousand shots up in one day. You feel what I'm saying? And he a do it, it's like his body was trained to do that shit, and I was like, damn, how you do this, bro? I'm gonna go up here and get me 200 shots up, I'm getting up out of here, bro, this shit ain't that. You feel what I'm saying? And to try to make 200, that was a lot for me.

So you was always defensive minded though? Nah, hell no, man. I used to, man, I was in college. You was a dubbing college. I was in college. I know he had what he did. Bro, listen, bro, listen. Is that in and out cross?

He's the end player of the year, I respect that. That in and out cross? Yes, sir. That motherfucker was dead. He ain't laughing. That's what he ain't laughing. Look, killer, when I got to Oklahoma State, bro, I ain't gonna even laugh.

When I got to Oklahoma State, bro, I ain't gonna even laugh. When I got to Oklahoma State, bro, my junior college coach, you know, I went to Juco. I went to the Bullah Community College, Kansas, got kicked out of there. I was freshman of the year there, averaged 16 points a game. But you was acting on food. Got kicked out, he called me smoking weed.

The acting director came, tried to give me my award. He see smoke coming all out of my room. Man, the folk kicked me out of there so fast. But just through the grace of God, that's how God work, because the National Junior College team that won it that year was missing a two guard. So the first thing they did was like,

ah, y'all kicked them out of school. We could use them, send them down here to Illinois. And boom, I went to Wal-Bass Valley, and then y'all finna know this name right here. I went down there with a cat named Antoine Barber. Yeah, I know him. It's a bunch of kids from Naptown with the Wabash. Reese Lynn, Robert Huling, Greg.

They a lot younger than you though. Yeah, so when I got there, Antoine Barber won National Dream College MVP. So when he won MVP, that specific year, he was supposed to leave and go to the league. Because look, you had three junior college guys that could have went to the league. Well, actually two of them actually went,

Kedrick Brown and Quintel Woods. He was on that draft board too, man, the mock draft. They still got the mock. They do. Oh, hell yeah. Okay, so the mock draft, he was on that draft board. He came back to school, so when he came back to school, he got everybody coming to the schools.

I'm talking about Michigan State, I'm talking about all the big boy schools. Yeah. And so, when he was getting all that notoriety, during that time, Oklahoma State was recruiting. And so when they was recruiting, you know how at that time they couldn't really talk to you, they couldn't say nothing to you,

they would try to get your attention and they tried to do all that old extra shit here. One time he was winging at me like, I'm like, pause. Come here. I'm like, pause. Pause. Respect the culture.

What's the culture? What are you doing? What's the culture? What's the culture? Respect the culture. Yeah, no, shut up the concept though. I ain't gon' act, cause that was my man. That was my man, but you did that Coach.

And I'm for real, so when he did that, it was like, damn. I'm like, all right, well he got to be interested cause he trying to get my attention obviously. And so when I was smoke cleared, Antoine Barber went to Kentucky. So boom, about him staying got me that notoriety, I believe, I always say that. And when I used to Kentucky. So boom, him staying got me that notoriety, I believe. I always say that. And when I used to be playing against him,

him used to go at it, bro, I ain't gonna lie, we go at it. One-on-ones, five-on-five, we playing five-on-five, it looked like a one-on-one. Cause we going at each other. But it made us, like I said, iron sharp and iron. We ended up losing in the National Dream College championship, not championship, Final Four.

And then once my, like I said, when the smoke clear, I had Creighton, Cincinnati, Arizona State, and Oklahoma State. What made you choose Oklahoma State though, being from Chicago? Like I think you probably picked Cincinnati, somewhere that's like close. I can see you at Cincinnati. I did wanna go to Cincinnati,

but you know who they picked, who they signed? Who? Tony Bobby. I know Tony Bobby, he was nice there too. He was nice, he was nice. So when they picked up Tony Bobby, I'm like, no, I'm straight, and I didn't wanna go on the West Coast, and it was like, Crayton, I'm like, whoever went to the league for Crayton.

You coulda won, that'da been tough. Talk about the cow corp. Oh yeah, shut up the cow corp. You coulda won that have been tough. Shout out to Kyle Corker. Oh yeah, shout out to Kyle Corker. Damn Kyle Corker. Oh man. That was after Tom though. First man. Oh yeah, cool guy.

He never got a bucket on me, but he's a cool guy. Meanwhile, no, so when I went on a visit, you know, we had the legendary coach. That was the only reason. And then they had about like eight ESPN games. And then y'all familiar with Mo Baker? Yeah, I know who that is. I was watching how they was letting him get loose the year before me, so I'm like,

damn, that spot open? So when I got in front of Coach Sutton, I just flat out asked him, Coach, if I stand here, am I going to the league? He looked at me and was like, put his legs up. Well, the coaches say that you are a great defender, you're a very athlete. I'm like, Coach, wait a minute, you ain't never

saw me play. What the hell? He dressed in disguise. I'm like, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's what assistant coaches are for. He's like, and I didn't know that. I'm like, all right, cool. He was like, but if you listen to everything

I say defensively and be a star in your role and do everything I tell you offensively and execute it, I don't see why not. I'm like, Coach, what I saying? He ain't lie to you though. And no, he ain't lie to me. So shout out Rezaase, Eddie Sutton. I always give my love bro.

You know, loves and respect to him because I asked him and he kept it G. You feel me? For sure man. And that's the energy you say, okay Stake, you know what I'm saying? Going up playing with a thrill then you catch him in the final four.

After the hole, he's supposed to be on y'all team. What's that energy like? Bro, I ain't gonna lie. I always say, I always say, I kinda, cause I ain't in college no more. I always say, man, I think I jagged that year. Cause listen, we doing our study halls and, you know, we have to do our work and you know, we gotta be focused.

They got us on curfew. Damn. So at this time, you know, you remember, on the phones you could send video messages. So this man sent me a video message. They kicking it, they got the sweet, they got little chicks over there, they got Kray Bob. They Bob.

They Bob something. I'm like, J. Luke, look at this. J. Luke like, man, don't do it, don't do it. I say, bro, fuck this curfew. I'm gonna go in there and fuck the drill, man. Ain't cracking over there. Bro, I ain't gonna lie, 10 o'clock hit, bro. I let them coaches come in and do their check, bro.

Soon as they left, I walked right out there behind them. I'm on the elevator going downstairs, boom, cab. Yeah, take me across the street, man. Went over across the street, man, we over there, man, drinking Hennessy. We turn, they got the music, baby. I'm talking about chicks just running all through that world. I'm like, man, I ain't leave that motherfucker

till about four in the morning. Man, blew me game at five o'clock. I'm like, damn. I'm talking about I ain't sold up till second half. I'm talking about, man, it blew me by the time I look up. Man, I'm looking at this tag game. Rodney had like, I think I got like 13 points. I'm like four, four, 11.

Man, my last three games, I done had like 22, 24. You know what I'm saying? I think I had 11 a game before that because I had to lock up Jam done had like 22, 24. You know what I'm saying? I think I had 11 a game before that cause I had to lock up Jamil Nelson and Delante Wynton. Man, so I just knew if we beat them and we got to being good, I say this is gonna be, all I need to do is get to being good. And you league.

And I'm not even league, I'm lottery. If I could lock up being good and show the world, I'm lottery. And so what ended up happening was, man, Will Bynum ended up coming off of Pick and Roll, Hezo and J-Luke, floating it over to Joey Graham. Y'all know Joey Graham? So Joey Graham, and then right there in that timeout,

Brian gonna lie, that's why, and Luke, you know I did this, boy. Coach like Eddie Sun, like, oh, we gonna sub J.Lew, he was trying to go offense defense. Man, I'm like hell no. I'm like, no J.Lew stand in. We finna get this win, J.Lew gonna get this stop. We up one. Will Burnham shoulda came up on the state.

You feel me on that type of town. I'm standing up for my homie. Yeah, you from Chicago. And when we doing that, Coach was like, aw. All right, come on, bring it in. We can bring it in, man. J. Luke, man, fell for that weak ass hit back there. I said, aw, hell no, J. Luke.

Told me he smoked the game. I'm talking about Wixie now, you too. He fell for some weak ass shit. Then I think of Joy Graham. This motherfucker doing 360s in the layup line, man. He put that weak ass float. I said, man, I couldn't do nothing but look back and just hold my head down.

But I had sobered up by then, I'm like, damn, we lost. I'm like, we lost. So then look, right, we go into the, you know the coaches come in, they come in all mad and shit, they got their head down, they walking, they pacing, they don't wanna say nothing. Man, one of the coaches bust out. Tony Allen.

I'm like, what? I'm looking up, you know, we crying. What the fuck is that? You know, like, I'm thinking like, damn, I'm crying. I'm like, man, I'm hoping they see that I feel something. Wait a minute. He bust out and said, I know you were out last night. Yeah, we know that.

He was like, so when the NBA coaches didn't call for you, we were gonna fuck you. Damn. I'm like, what? I start crying again. Oh. I start crying again. I'm like, damn, all I can think is like,

then the wheel just finessing me. I have to leave you there. Cause you got a real album. He went and played against Ben Gore, he killed them. He had like 19 in the championship game, but they lost. But I think that was my matchup. I ain't gonna lie about it. I always tell Ben Gore when I see him too,

I be like, damn bro, I been on that matchup. Ben was tough. He was tough man. I don't know how hard he was. Nah, he was good. We know. You're six men a year? Who said that?

Troy, one of my first games I got to play, they ran two chests the whole game, he was good. We know. You're six men a year? I caught him in Detroit. One of my first games I got to play, they ran two chests the whole game. He cooked me. That's his pick. He cooked me. He's still in the middle there. He's got that pick on the side. He cooked me.

Cooked me. He probably scored 13 in a row. I was like, yeah, I'm ready for two guards. Hey, look, they were calling him Ben Jordan at one point. Nah, for real. Yeah. For sure, man. Who was the hardest matchup in college for you, though? Man, a lot. Yeah. For sure, man. That's crazy. Who was the hardest match up in college for you though?

Man, a lot of people don't know, man. Andre Emmett. Recipe's Andre Emmett. Oh, Andre. Take his tech. Yeah, we know him. Take his tech. Man, this man, it wasn't no stopping him getting 30, bro.

Went no stop all mid-range. Yeah. Dang, that's crazy. Big boy baskets. Nah, he was called, bro. I'm talking about, he putting a five man on the post. Damn. No for real.

And it was like damn every time I faced him it would be like either I have a good game and then he'll just have a better game or he'll just do something late in the game and just take over. Like I don't know what was about his game. I'm talking about real unorthodox shot and everything but he just getting buckets.

He know how to get buckets man. And if I had to say one more tough matchup, I think his name Baron Mouton. Yeah, yeah, Texas. Yeah, Texas, yeah. Mouton had buckets. Man, oh man, he used to be a problem, bro. He's moving forces.

Damn, did he? Yeah, he used to be a problem. Hot top horse. Oh, for sure. Other than that, yeah. Okay. Did you always have the handle? Cause I mean, when people know you from the league,

they know you from playing defense, but I remember you from college. I've been a basketball fan my whole life. And when you got buckets in college, like we talking about, but you always had handle. Like people underestimated when you got in the league. I'm like, that motherfucker dribble. One of my best friends back home named Phil,

you was his guy. So like named Phil, you was his guy. So like Oklahoma State, you was his guy. I was going for St. Joe's. I was Jameer Nelson. We had our t-shirts, baby. It was my guys, they wore big t-shirts, hooped and barked and this shit. They was wrong.

They was wrong. That was tough, right? That was tough. That was my squad. But we was right on their heels that whole year. They was one, we was two. Yeah, my buddy fucked with, okay, he fucked with St. Joe's, but okay state, we played Morris Man Yeah, my buddy fucked with O.K. He fucked with St. Joe's, but O.K. State,

we played Morris Manness, he get an O.K. State. He like, Tony Allen, go though. And I'm like, and so when we got older, and I seen you, you know you was known for defense. I'm like, he can't dribble no more, he used to have. You know what I mean? But I know the league, you know you get to the league, they give you a role, it change you.

But. But no, it's a Chicago thing, I ain't gonna lie. And then I played with Will the Thrill, so it was like, every time, man, me and Thrill, people don't know, me and Thrill used to put on jumpsuits, bro, my senior year in high school, junior and senior year in high school, I walked around with them jumpsuits,

you know them shoes, make them shoes. East Bay? Bro, everybody in school used to be like, look at this goofy ass. Shout out to Ronnie Carney. On me, he got some league-on-the-trash shoes. Ronnie Carney used to walk around, look at this goofy ass. Hey, shout out to Ronnie Carney. On me, he got some really good shrimp shoes. Ronnie Carney used to walk around the city in them. Yeah, and I'm talking about the Niagara team

with my shoes. Me and three of them did it in paper shoes. Oh lord. And one thing for sure to the son. I need some of them now, D. Oh, you just tried to get back in there. I'm trying to get back in there. My brother made me some shrimp shoes.

Those ACL tears though, bruh. You made some homemade shrimp shoes? My brother put a block of wood under some old gym shoes, put a nail in it, cause I walk around in that shit. Oh yeah, Tarell, that's why your knees ain't work for them. It ain't cause you jumpin'. I didn't know that, nigga. Some homemade strip shoes.

We coulda poured over a fucking glass of... Man, y'all weren't that poor, nigga. Yeah, they weren't that long. The Home Depot Joyce trailer. He made it with a block of wood. Why this nigga got a horror story, boy? Stop, bro. Damn. Shout out to my brother, Tarell. Shout out, this thing got a horror story, boy. Stop, bro. Damn.

Shout out to my brother, Terrell. He got the tee, man. Tee tried, though. It was thought to count. It was thought to count. But no, man, me and him just play one on one. And so just picking up his attributes, like, I'm like, damn, like, how he do it?

Like, because he'll hit you by left, boom. You know what I'm saying? So I couldn't do it like that. So I had to, you know, come into it like this, with the in and out. You feel what I'm saying? And it was always left to right. You know what I'm saying do it like that. So I had to come into it like that with the in and out. You feel what I'm saying? And it was always left to right. You know what I'm saying? I couldn't get it really like that, going that way.

But oh man, Chicago, man, you've got to, one of the things we always was taught, man, you've got to be able to handle that ball. You feel what I'm saying? If you can't handle that ball, man, what you gonna do on the court? You know what I'm saying? And it's one of them things, man,

I inherited early as a kid and I don't know, man. Handling that ball to me, when I got in the league, I couldn't show it simply because it was more like, all right, we need you to be doing 50-50 shit. Like you need to be getting loose balls, catching it in transition, getting deflections. Like that's what they fed to me, you know what I'm saying? And my first year up shit, that's what I had to do, shit,

to try to get on the court. So I know you said, you know, Atlanta said they was gonna pick you, you know, we in your draft process right now. How was that first day of practice, or what was that draft process like? Oh man, the draft process was crazy. I had, how many, I found out how many teams was in 2004. I worked out with everybody except Toronto.

Damn. You feel what I'm saying? And so I felt I was the best in shape. It was some workouts, man. I ain't gonna lie, man. Cats would pull out, they'd see me getting the best. You know what I'm saying? Stomach hurt.

Yeah. Oh, pull a hamstring. You know what I'm saying? And I'd be mad, bro. I Yeah. Oh, pulled a hamstring. You know what I'm sayin'? And I be mad, bro. I be like, I tell the coaches like, come on, man, y'all gotta get some more competitors in here. What y'all doin' the full court one on one shit?

All that. Damn. All that. That shit's terrible. And I'm talkin' about, man. You did that in 30 cities, nigga. 30 cities. I'm tellin' you, look.

I promise, I was in the best shape, bro. Yeah. That was the best shape of my life, bro. And I ain't gonna lie. The process could be draining, but man, I was trying to feed my family. You know what I'm saying? So it really didn't matter, man.

Well, all I needed was one team, bro. And in that process, that's all you need is one team. That's a fuck, and it's crazy. That one team would have been in Boston Celtics, 25 first round pick. It's crazy, because you was there in Boston pre-KG and then posted to help KG get to the championship. How was that just touching down in Boston?

Because I know that's going to do a little bit of a transition moving up in Walker and stuff. Yeah, I was part of that team that lost 18 games in a row. Yeah, Al Jefferson and them. Yeah, and I'm talking, it was a... Yo, that was ass. It was. Yeah, it was. It was house. Yeah, and I'm talking, it was a- Y'all was ass. Yeah, it was rough. Yeah, what was I saying, bro?

But hold on though. Hold on though. That's the Hennessy in Hoxhaven. I'm telling you, but look, we was getting busy though. I'm talking about, it was so bad, bro. You know we was in the losing culture because when you come in in the locker room and you got the stat sheet right there at halftime,

you're trying to see how you doing. Bro, that's a losing mentality. Why is you looking at the stat sheet at halftime? That sound like us a good soda, bro. That was us a good soda. And then, but I ain't gonna lie, I had like a beat, cause I told my ACL, my third year and that, and man, it's one of the freak accidents.

One of the things I really regret in the league is playing after the whistle. And I hate when players do it today, but don't know if I'm falling, get hurt like I did. I don't know how that damn thing happened, but tweak it. Man, I was averaging like, I'm gonna say good, like 18, 19 a game.

I'm talking about on like a 10 game span. Paul Pierce had just got his extension. Then he went to the media and was like, I need some help. Da da da da da. I'm saying to myself, damn, he trying to get some folks up out of there. Most definitely. But it was one day, like he had came to me,

he was like, shut it down. He was like, yo, I'm shutting it down. Da da da. He was like, you got the juice now. Like word? I'm like, word? He was like, yeah, the juice now. I'm like, word? I'm like, word? He was like, yeah, you starting today. Get ready.

And walked away. Bro, that's all he needed to tell me. I'm telling you, bro, I'm on like an 18 game, I mean, an 18 per game, points per game streak, bro. And specifically that day, bro, I was going up against Stack Jack. You know, Stack Jack, great defender, OG at the time. You know what I'm saying? Looking at the score, I'm like, damn, we playing Indiana.

I got like 19 with like six minutes, seven minutes left in the third. I'm saying to myself, I might get 40 today. I'm like, I might get 40. And so I was feeling good, I blew past him. He found me. Know the whistle blow. And then it's right around the time. Remember, Brian,

Brian came in the league making this look sexy. Yeah. So I tried to do one a little bad and didn't quite get up there, man. Feel dead on my shit, man. That shit popped so loud. Out here, she's like, yo. I'm like, oh, I'm turning out, I'm turning out.

And that shit was hurting so bad, then Steven Jackson like, what is you doing, bro? Why would you do that, bro? Why would you do that? And boom, all I remember was just getting to the back, thinking like, no, he ain't nothing wrong with it, ain't nothing wrong with it, boom. Just tried to walk on it again, man, I fell out.

Collapsed, they like, yo, you told your ACL. I was crying, I was hurt. And from then, you know, it was two things that could happen because I ended up, you know, I had some troubles, some legal troubles or whatever. And it was two things that happened, bro. It was like, I get my knee right, adapt to my role, do it 110%, or if I don't, try to come back here

and try to be on some clear out shit. You know what I'm saying? My ass is out the league. And that was the reality of that. So when I came back, man, we had traded everybody, but me and Rondo, sir, you know, saying that that that summer we got rid of the Lantz West, got rid of Gerald Green, Ryan Gomes, Al Jefferson and while he's there, you know, everybody was gone.

And so I'm like, damn, why they keep me? Cause they didn't extend me, you know, my third year. No, they can extend your third year. You played through your fourth year, then you did a back kick in. So they signed out Jefferson, four year, like 70 something. And brought, we got KG like that. We took, we sent Walex Zerbjak to Seattle.

And we got Rayattaboy. And so right then and there, I'm like, damn, hold on, we got three Hall of Famers, like what the hell, what do I fit in it? And Doc Rivers, he had, you know, pulled me to the side, brought me in, he was like, you see what happened? Like what? Like we traded everybody.

We kept you. So in order for you to get on this court and play, you need to be doing everything they not doing, because they're scorers. They're gonna get majority of the shots. Like, you need to be getting loose balls, taking charges, diving on the floor, getting deflections, playing the passing lane,

and shoot when you get low clock. I'm like, damn. I'm wide open, low clock. I mean, I'm wide open. 18 on the clock, that ain't a good shot, coach. Hell no. I'll say, okay, hell. Not wide open, low-clock. I'm wide open. 18 on the clock. That ain't a good shot, Coach. Hell no. I'll say, OK, cool.

It was a moment that should have broken me, but just because of how I was raised and my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness. We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us.

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podcast. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. That's what's up. That's what's up. But he can't be G though. You feel what I'm saying? Like ain't too many coaches running up on you. Like if they ain't fucking with you and they know your window's short, they just gonna throw you out there.

And if you fuck up, then they looking upstairs at the gym like shh. Oh God, that's how Woody was doing me. That's crazy. That's how he did. You wondering like, okay, but then he kept me in man. I ain't gonna lie, man, that was the most stressful year. I ain't gonna lie, trying to get back,

you know what I'm saying? Get over my, you know, my things I had going on and just my knee, man, just I couldn't, I was scared, I had to wear the brace. I'm talking about the brace looking so bad. I ain't gonna lie, I remember one time I had the brace on and Chris Wilcox tried to come set a pic and his knee hit my brace.

He's like, damn! Wood leg ass nigga! He feel the edge of that thing. Chris Wilcox, technology wasn't hip then. I'm just saying. Nah, man. That's a Stone Cold Steve Austin brace, man. For real, that was dope. Man, that brace was so, I hated that brace, bro.

I ain't gonna lie. Chris Bosh used to wear that brace. That shit used to hurt when he said Scrum. That shit was very for real. No, for real, and I ain't gonna lie, I was still trying to just get back. She ain't trying to get that brace. That shit used to hurt when he said Scram. That shit used to hurt for real. And I ain't gonna lie, I was still trying to just get back. See, I'm trying to get my bounce. I was timid, I was scared,

but I went through the process, man, and I was able to start just strengthening my knee and cat back. So big shout out to Brian Dew and Walt to Norton. The folks got me back right. I'm strength and conditioning. It took a full year? Shake back, it took a full year to shake back.

Ooh, it took damn near, cause I hurt at the middle of the season and I ain't come back. Yeah, it took about a whole year, about a year. Yeah. A year, I think I came back early. Then it was contract, it was my fourth year. It was like, shit, if it was seven months,

I had to get back out there, you feel me? Yeah. It was crazy, like you said, contract situation, I had to get back out there. You feel me? Yeah. It was crazy. It's like you said, contrary situation, you going to know I'm saying that, that championship year, man. How was that run, man? What I like about that is the way we came together.

We was in Italy. We started in Italy and Tigger, P, Ray, Pose, I mean, Perk, you know, the starting five pretty much, they all went bald. And like, we gonna be on the same court, which made, which formed the bench mob, cause we was like, all right, two things can happen. These, we gotta be on the same page like them.

That's what, that was that message right then and there. And we set forth the title vision right then and there. Like we go, man, training camp was hard. I'm talking about everybody getting extra shots up, guys getting there early. Like we set the foundation right then and there, man. I'm talking about, those were some of the best scrimmages, man, I've probably been a part of, man.

And I don't know, it just felt like, felt like Doc knew what he was doing. You knew y'all was gonna win? And did all y'all cut y'all hair off? Nah, you know, I had to keep my face. He said I was bitch-mowing. I didn't wanna go over there because a couple of them niggas didn't have no choice.

Man, my peanut, I got a peanut, bro. I ain't gonna lie, I couldn't have did it, man. I remember Eddie Hell was like, shit. He was gonna keep the wave, shit. That's what you want hard, this is your fat five niggas. Yeah, I'm about to die. No, man, he going bald. Now he's gonna have the wave. Shit. That's what you want hard, this is your fan Fondick. Yeah. No man, he going bald. Now he's gonna have to, come on, hell no.

And so that, but I think that right there, man, it just showed that they was sacrificing their thing, man. And they came together, man. And you know who else was like a real voice in the locker room, man, was Change Post. You know, he had that swag of like, you know, I've been there before. Like when we be fucking up,

same it man, same it brothers. Same championship spirit right here. Like he'll be the first one to check everybody. I'm talking about let Tigg and them know, this ain't it. Like he'll tell Pete, nah that ain't it bro. Post been on the weak side bro. You got like he'll straighten guys.

Not in the disrespectful way but more so like, bro, I've been to the promised land. What y'all doing ain't it? And so I always took sheets out of his book, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about the guy used to come in there, bro, with a laptop, big ass laptop. They give him the edits on who he's sticking. He'll watch they ISOs, he'll watch the transitions.

He'll watch the offensive rebound. He'll watch the catching shoots. And he'll be watching that all the way until then they're like game time. Or not until it's time to go get his treatment. Cause I treat my table, we ran some old heads. It was all about all of us. And I didn't, listen, I didn't understand

what the hell the treatment table was. I'm like, why the hell do you motherfuckers sit on that table so long? But when I was young, I was learning from those veterans and seeing how they take care of their body, seeing how they prepare. Ray Allen get there three, four hours early, get shots up, he showered, he in a hot tub, cold tub.

Now he reading the book. I'm like, damn, okay, that's how you get ready. Ticket, he got damn it. Got this heat pack, got his feet on the heat pack. He's sitting there just ain't saying nothing to nobody. I'm like, damn, what? He meditating, getting ready to go in there, do about 50 squats with the dumbbells.

I'm like, damn, okay, he getting ready. Damn, Paul, he was just hilarious. He had come in there, bro. He just, he look at your shoes, like what's the hell's going on? Like he was just too freelance, you know what I'm saying? So he really didn't want, I really didn't want to take nothing out of his book,

I ain't gonna lie. You don't want to fight me. Yeah, I didn't want to take nothing out of his book, bro. But I always listened to him. When he got serious and he was in my ear, I always listened to him, you know what I'm saying? And just taking those guys' professionalism, I think it carried on in my career.

You feel what I'm saying? I used that as like, damn, okay, go on running in the PAP-PAP before you go and get to the game, right before the game, that ain't healthy. You know what I'm saying? Not getting enough rest, that ain't healthy. You know what I'm saying? All this extra ass shit I was doing before pre ACL,

after ACL, when they got there, I straightened my whole professionalism up. I ain't even holly. For sure, I wanna ask, how does it feel to see them now in different spaces? You see KG and P, what they show. You see Kendrick, Parkinson, ESPN, like to know them personally and see how they are

and be the new media. How's that now? Because they all represent the real stuff. Like y'all wanting to get the, you know, they real dudes, especially behind basketball. Yeah, man. And they cut from a cough, man. They're so separate.

Yeah, them guys some real dudes, man. I ain't gonna lie. When we played together, man, we did everything together. You know what I'm saying? KG forcibly made everybody one team, one goal. You feel what I'm saying? We gonna go out together. We gonna go in together.

We gonna go in together. You feel what I'm saying? He made that clear as soon as he got in the door. You feel what I'm saying? He made that clear as soon as he got in the door. You feel what I'm saying? And then, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hey, they loud as hell. I thought you was about to say it. I was, but.

All right. Even better. Yeah, calm down. I lost my train of thought. Damn, but no, no, but no. We lost my train of thought. I'm telling y'all. Damn, but no, no, but no. We ain't Mitchell and Ness with it. Shout out to Mitchell and Ness, you know it's love.

No, we wasn't there shopping. But no. Excuse y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I'm being old. I just got the L on. I'm telling y'all. But no.

But no. Hey, to the Chanel. Junior, be cool, Junior. But no, man, I ain't gonna lie. Those guys, bro, Junior be cool with Junior. But no man, I ain't gonna laugh. Those guys bro, I ain't gonna laugh. Those guys, I ain't gonna laugh man. You gotta understand where they coming from. Cause if you look at today's game, they probably might be a little too outright

for today's game. You know what I'm saying? The way they play, how vocal they are. They got the affamel syndrome. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think that's allowed in locker rooms today. how vocal they are, they got the affamel syndrome. You know what I'm saying? And I don't think that's allowed in locker rooms today. And I just look at it like, damn man,

like I said, they come from a close, they ain't even sold no more down there because they real dudes, man. And when you hear what they talking about, you actually gotta understand what the leagues and the times and the eras that they played in. It was a no bullshit type era. You feel what I'm saying?

They come, Ticket played in an era where you could hand check a motherfucker. Now, can you imagine having to hand check a motherfucker for 94 feet and get away with it? How many motherfuckers could do that? How many stills you have? You can do that. What?

I have at least five. At least five. Off the muscle. If you get five, I mean you gonna have a few games with 10, seven, you know what I'm saying? But the errors that they play, and I just think you gotta respect they G when they talking or giving their opinion.

I like the space that Perk's in. Perk's in a more corporate type podcast or whatever, whatever, but he doing his thing, man. Shout out Big Perk, man. I used to call him Swamp Thing. Boy, get the sweat in that coming out there, Swamp Thing. I was like, God, what is this, Swamp Thing? That's crazy.

He inherited that nickname. He liked it. Yeah, Swamp Thing. Perk, we gonna talk about that when we see it. Swamp Thing is great. Swamp Thing is nuts. That's what I order at Papa Dog's. Oh God.

Oh God. That's what I order at Papa Dog's. Oh God. Oh God. That's what I order at Papa Dog's. It's funny because you can talk about T.A's headless. I always think about K.P. every time he pop up it was him in the driveway. He was 13. That was T.A. He just hit on a pregnant T.A. T.A. talking.

That's the end of that cross. No, Big Fella ain't gonna lie. He always wanted to be like a guard, man. He used to try to come and get in our drills when we would warm up and stuff like that. He loves like shooting jump shots. I ain't gon' lie, Big fella always had guard mentality, but yeah, them guys ain't gon' lie,

like I said, I like the space they in. For sure. For sure, man, listen, man, y'all got it done, man. Before we get to the next chapter of your career, we gotta talk about that championship, man gets the Lakers man damn they're built to add situation on the lowest of keys. Yeah. I know y'all hit him back.

You know we won one lost one two most definitely so the one that we won I think I played that much I ain't finished it on here. Cap I it was all Jane post. It was all Jane Paul's. It was Jane Paul's. Now y'all bitch mom was doing crazy. You got one of y'all? You got one of y'all really?

Man, listen, I ain't getting the game if we was up 30 or down 30. Hey. Yeah, man. That game six y'all was playing long and y'all was up 20. But one thing for sure, too, sir, I'm different than you, Joe,

because, hey, because, listen, listen, when I got my little time, I tried to share it, and when we kicked it, I went and kicked it. What the hell with you? Y'all kicked it, we ain't kicked it. Where we going? Vegas?

Oh yeah, come on. I'll be on that jet in a second. I'll be right there with you. We ain't gonna talk about that. I ain't get that. Shout out to Milwaukee. We're trying to make it right. Are y'all done turned up?

Oh, man. Y'all know you went and played some video games. Man, I went back to the crib. Yeah, hell no. Popping champagne, You mean I went back to the crib. Hell no, I'll pop a champagne man. I wanted to do all that. I was going to be the craziest one in Vegas. I was going to have a big major bottle. I was going to act like I had 30 at night.

That's what you was supposed to do. Yeah, I was going to turn it up for him, but nobody want to go. But look, I ain't going to lie though. One thing about our championship, the only thing out there that was funny to me, bro, you know, you go through, you think it's about to be unlimited bottles of champagne and thorn. Man, I look at the DVD the other day, man,

and it got clips of Ticket Point Miller's light on me. Bro, what's wrong with y'all? Y'all run out of motherfucking Moet, man. What's going on, man? Hey, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, what I'm just saying. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was like, how the hell did you get in the pocket?

No, I had, I had a big bottle of Sincora. Oh, man. Oh, Lord. Yeah, I was walking around with the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the the lead, the one y'all got me. I was walking around with that. Ran out of my way, it's crazy. Where did y'all go out to?

Did y'all go to the club? Yeah, no, I think we went over to Ticket Crib. You know, Ticket had the big boy match. Everybody went over there, kicked it. You know, that was big. I ain't gonna lie, I fuck with the Celtics organization, man. They show love, I ain't gonna lie. They, you know, they big time organization.

I remember you saying something about the food when they get out of shoot around. They do that at top notch. You know what I'm saying? Go on the road, they got brunch, go on the road, they food after. I love the way they handled all they been and stuff. Yeah, for sure man.

They did that. That was fire when I played there for my half a year. Couple of copies. Yeah, my couple of copies. It was definitely top notch though. But losing it, as far as getting to the 2010 one, which I thought we should've won, Kobe shot his worst percentage of a shoot in that year.

Talk your shit. No, no, for real, I'm just's one of the- Talk your shit. No, no, for real, I'm just giving you facts though. Talk your shit. He was trying to slotted in. Okay, nigga, we, you go. Yeah. Damn, nigga, you got some piece of marmalade. Nigga trying to be humble.

No, you talk your shit like you was in a club talking. And one run over here and that was you. Yeah. He messed up. We was at D-Rose, right? This nigga walking up on me. Nah, fuck that Kobe story. This nigga walk up on me.

Listen to this, bro. Nigga, don't nobody know you here. I said, nigga, I mean, this bitch looking good. The ball, fuck, get your big ass away from me. No, no. Everybody shaking my ass. Shout out to my nigga D-Rose. This nigga walk up to me, talking about him and his nigga. I forgot, shout out to homie too. The little project. Yeah, shout out to my nigga, D-Rose. This nigga walk up to me talking about him and his nigga,

I forgot shout out to homie too, I fuck with him. Yeah, shout out to Projex. This nigga walk up, nigga, don't nobody know you, nigga. This nigga move, nigga, I'm fine, this motherfucker get her, hey, man, stick. Drunk ass nigga move. You can look at that motherfucker vibe, and like, yeah, like, you know shit, you know.

And with all that old shit, I say, how long know shit, you know. You know all that old shit. I said, how long, let me go straight. You in my city, dude. And I know you on 520 actin' up. You trouble making everybody upset. Everybody scared. This motherfucker here. I was like, that's fuckin' cool.

Nobody know you, nigga. Hey, man, see it, everybody taking pictures with the nigga and shit. Like, nigga, get your all ass on, nigga. That nigga's crazy. But yeah, man, like I say, that specific year, bro, I honestly, I was taking everything out of James Posey, but I don't think he'd get his flowers.

Shout to James Posey. He don't get his flowers, bro. And man, I was able to just lock in and watch Kobe's jabs there, watch his footwork in the post, watch his head fake, head fake, head fake, because I had, my rookie year, I had fouled out six, that's 6,000 in eight minutes.

Damn. So yeah, so it took- Wait, Coach didn't say you were out for three, he just said fuck it. Bro, they said you lose all of them. Bro, they threw me in the crash now. They threw me in the crash, I'ma say, they threw me in the trash. They threw me in the trash. They threw me in the blender.

You feel me? But it took years and years and years and years and years of studying that man after Posey left. And that's how I was able to key in on him. Like, I ain't finna fall for that head fake no more. I ain't finna, that jab step you doing, you gonna have to swing through and go all the way. That fade away, I ain't contesting with my left hand. I'm contesting, not where we fade to the right.

Yeah, I ain't contesting with my right hand. I'm contesting with my left hand. You know what I'm saying? I ain't fouling you on your elbow no more. I ain't scared of you no more, dude, pretty much. And that finals, like I say, Doc Rivers, he rode it with his guys, as he should. You know what I'm saying?

Rightfully so, I'm gonna roll with the guys who's been proven, who's been in the league and did it. But if Perk wouldn't have got hurt, bro. I was about to say, if Pert didn't get hurt and could play that last game, it's in the air. Swamp thing, when they got hurt, bro, we the one in that championship.

That's definitely. Then after that, man, you bring the energy. Oh no, man. No, I think if Papi plays that, bro, he was locking them guys up. He was having a hard time. He was, bro, but. Bynum and Paul, they was having a hard time. Nah, they was. Bynum and Paul, it was having a hard time.

Nah, they was. Yeah, I think honestly they would've get that serious if he plays for sure. Yeah, you a hard, you a rushing judge. I know, I'm focused on this boy. You know KZ, you know it's still check up every time I see you but I don't know man, I just think it was a late assignment.

He really wanted to play you bro. We went in a match up between him and Ticket man. They got a lot of... Ticket really wanted to play him bro. Yeah, that's how a nigga got me fucked up. Checked by the head time. Nah, Ticket was really mad, bruh. He said, I'm just gonna play with me.

Yeah. He had a whole lot of people to do right now. No, he take it there. I ain't gonna. I was looking at him like, I was like, that was just bullshit, bro. We'll take a side, man. Nah, Ticket, no, we talk that through.

Yeah, we talk the what's-name. That shit was funny. He, no, take it, no. We sure, we talked it through. We sure, we what's the name. That shit was funny. It was like, nobody ever talked to me like that. They got some, I don't give a fuck. Check ball, nigga. Wait for that game on Draft Kings for sure. I got it, I'm taking it on. I'm taking it on.

Now we gotta talk about it, man. You took, you know what I'm saying? I took your skills to Memphis, man. Changed the culture, man. Changed the entire culture of that team. Shout out to Jah Mouran, he got the city rocking right now. But what you did and what that team did for Memphis Memphis man, changed the culture man, changed the entire culture of that team. Shout out to Jah Moran, he got the city rocking right now. But what you did and what that team did for Memphis man, rejuvenated that city man,

you got a real different type of energy man. How was that transition from Boston down to Memphis? Well the transition was, man, I ain't gonna lie, I signed with them late. It was like mid August, some shit like that. And I was sitting in the crib thinking like, damn this might be it. I was like, I just went through the finals

and nobody want me. And then I'm like, damn, okay, it clicked because Chris Wallace, he drafted me in Boston. He was the assistant general manager in Boston. So when he got there and he saw what I did in the finals, he was like, yo, I need that. Called me, told me, he's like, yo, I need that. He's like, but it's one thing though, he was like,

are you and Z-Bo gonna be able to play with each other? I'm like, what you mean? He's like, you guys y'all need that. He's like, but it's one thing though. He was like, are you and Z-Bo gonna be able to play with each other? I'm like, what you mean? He was like, you guys are two different affiliations. You know, I just don't want it to be a problem. I got 9.7 million. He's crazy. So he's like, I got 9.7 million on the table for you. You just need to know about you and Z-Bo.

I'm like, man, stop playing. One love, that's my man. That's my man, what we doing? And then when I got there, and I finally got a chance to be around Z-Bo, man, just to understand his heart and just, just a big teddy bear, you know what I'm saying? But don't play with him like, you know, T-Bo,

I'm just saying he, he one of the guys, and it was like, it was like when I first met him, the first thing, because he was at Lorenz & Wright, funeral recipes, Lorenz, he was like, yeah, man, I saw you in the finals, this, that, and the other. He was like, man, I wanna get there, bro. He was like, man, you gonna bring that championship

mentality to the locker room, bro. He was like, we gonna make some noise, bro. Like, we missed the playoffs last year. He was like, just excited. And I'm like, my nigga. You feel what I'm saying? And once we got to the season, it was like, my nigga. You feel what I'm saying? And once we got to the season, it was like, damn, when I got there, I just didn't play.

Coach didn't want, he just didn't play me. I'm like, damn, I just got the finals. Man, y'all, just a laughingstock of the league over here. What y'all doing, bro? Play me. And Coach Hollins, at the time, what I got intel on was he wanted to pick a sign, the real right. He wanted space and then shoot.

But Chris Wallace thought like, we need some stops down the stretch, at the two spot. And so it took me a minute to like even, you know, get some minutes. And specifically this one day where I had, I got some minutes against Kevin Durant. I didn't study for him.

I was doing film on James Harden, watched all his clips coming out that corner when Nick Collison catch me. Dribble handoff in the corner. I was studying all that. And then I look up, it's 38 on the clock and he like wiping off the board and putting Tony name next to Kevin Durant name.

I take my headphones out, look at Rudy. I'm Rudy, you ain't playing. Rudy like, he trying to be quiet and shit. I'm like, no, hold on man, I ain't study for dude. You feel what I'm saying? I was like, fuck, I put my headphone back on. Boom, go out there, man. I'm talking about, I had a? I was like, fuck, I put my headphone back on. Boom, go out there, man. I'm talking about, I had a solid game,

like 27, seven, rebound fast deal. Nah, you had a game. Hell game. And so, I was so hot though. I was real hot, I was still hot at Rudy. I'm like, mother fucker, he pulled the blade. Like, what you, why would you throw me in this situation? And then when the cameraman came,

I think he even come holla at Z-Bo, cause Z-Bo here like 30 and 15 or some shit. And he like, no, no, no, you. I'm like, I'm trying to walk back to the locker room so I can get on Rudy's ass. And he was like, yeah, this performance, I know you haven't been playing in many minutes and da, da, da, where did this come from?

So I'm just like, it's all hard, grit, grind. Like, like, really? But this was supposed to get shot in the locker room. You feel that? And he caught it by the time I get back to the city, grit, grind. Like, really, but this was supposed to get shot in the locker room, you feel that? And he caught it, but by the time I get back to the city, man, the whole city picked up on grit and grind. Like, that's our mentality. This is our identity right here and there. T.H. just did it.

He just cracked open the bottle what we gonna hold our hands on. And before you know it, bro, like I said, man, we just made noise from that point on. You come in that arena, baby, playing whoop, take trick. That's true so far. Whoop, take trick. That was because of you.

That was because this nigga ain't holding up. No, I ain't gonna lie. I didn't have no control over that. I ain't gonna lie. Whoever did that, I'm gonna find out. That was gangster. My boy did. Find out who did that, big guy. That was gangster. My boy did, find out who did that.

That was gangster, bro. And it only played when we whooped in your ass. Yeah, I swear to God, I was in the, I was coming on the court one game, whooped that trick. I was like, I was like, nah. I went back to Atlanta. I was like, well, we gotta play some better. They're like, you know, we play fire music in Atlanta.

But I'm like, they playing whooped that trick. Y'all are the pregame for the whooped that type shit. That's a different, but I'm like, they playing whoop that trick. Yeah, we out of pregame for the club. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We was, that's a different type of interview. Yeah, yeah, they playing whoop that trick. I'm like, true that, true that, true that. Yeah, I'm like, whoop that trick, it's crazy. Man, that's crazy, because you go from,

you know what I'm saying, figured out your minutes there, and then you, you know what I'm saying, that jersey about to go up, man. How that feel, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I mean, it's actually a dream come true, man. You know, coming from where I come from, you know, housing authority, you know,

just overcoming a lot of hurdles growing up, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Scrapping, fighting, clawing. I'm talking about trying to just even get in the, just ranks of playing basketball, man. Y'all know, T, you know how hard this is, man. Just stay in the just ranks of playing basketball, man. Y'all know, T, you know how hard this is, man.

Just stay in the league. It's a three or four year span with some players. And man, to even overcome that and not be one of your top-notch scores, the most liked, I just got to do it on a, like I say, the all-heart side. You feel what I'm saying? The great and grand side.

And just for them to honor my body of work, Memphis definitely showed me love. So like I say, man, I got nothing but love for that organization. I rep the organization everywhere, proudly. And like I say, it's a dream come true, man. I'm very appreciative of it. You did 14 years?

14 years. Solid, bro. 14 years. I don't wanna talk about my time in New Orleans. I think I talked about that last year. That's when I first really met T.A. Be a, who was I with? We was walking down the aisle at the shoe store.

Well now you gotta talk about it. And he pulled, no, no, no, he pulled up with us. I might have been with J. Lou. Yeah, at the restaurant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you pulled up in the, he was like, uh, yeah, it's bulletproof, nigga. I was like, no. Oh, aggressive for no reason. He pulled up in like a truck, it's bulletproof, nigga. I was like, damn. I was aggressive for no reason.

He pulled up in like a truck. It's bulletproof, nigga, what? I was like. And he was like, nah, he ain't gonna jump. He like crazy, man. And he just pulled off. He was like. Yeah, no, I ain't gonna lie.

My time in the world, I was about to say, Coach Gentry, man, I ain't gonna lie. He was not fucking with me, bro. I ain't gonna lie. He was like, yeah, he always say, stay ready. Yeah, yeah, we gonna need you, we gonna need you. Yeah, yeah, stay ready, we gonna need you. Madden needs shit from me.

Oh, Leroy, I say, man, hi. Do you know why he didn't fuck with you? Did y'all have a run in or something? I mean, the people that was playing in front of me, I ain't gonna lie, big salute to them. Who was playing in front of me? Etwine Moore, B. Miller. And I think that's it.

The moment to go out. But I just didn't think he was utilizing his options. Right, right, right. But I end up tearing my knee a little bit. I think I ain't got like a fracture in my knee. in my knee. And then, but I thought that year, I ain't gonna lie, I thought we was gonna win it. The way, shit, the way Drew Holiday was playing. The way-

We talk about that all the time, bro. The way Anthony Davis and then was both, they both was averaging 25 and 15. That shit was crazy. What y'all did to Portland, that's what made me think like, oh shit, they can take it all. Then Boogie got hurt, I was like, fuck.

And so when Boogie, and that's why I said Boogie, the way he was playing, man, the way he was changing his attitude. Shout out to Boogie. Yeah, bro. I'm talking about he was a team player. Like he was, like I, he got the stigma off his name, what was in Sacramento.

That's what I'm saying. And I love for that, man. I ain't gonna lie, big shout out to Boogie, man. And that specific, yeah, like I said, I just, it was unfortunate for Boogie to get hurt and then they traded all of us. Me, Jamil, yeah, he just bust that shit wild, though. Man. They went crazy for sure.

Listen, man, we appreciate you, man. Before you get out of here, we got a shout out to Sho, man. Oh yeah, and Out the Mud, man. Y'all too, man. We got a special guest coming soon, Mr. T. We gon' get in the open on that one. Nah, I'll show it.

That's one of my favorite shows. He put me on. He put Jeff put me on. Oh yeah, you ain't know he be a steelbook. It was early though. Bro, we caught y'all first episode. First episode. He like, James, he broke up.

I'm like, ain't no one. I said, I ain't got no one. I said, I ain't got one. We working, man. We working, man. And one thing about this podcast, where man, what I like about it is, I get to see people's journeys. I get to see how they, you know what I'm saying?

Damn, you went through that. Damn, that was going on at the time. Okay, those guys you had to face against, I like hearing that because every guy's story is different and every guy's got a story to tell. So I like hearing it, man. And then one thing about getting to the league, it ain't no right, bro. It's a privilege. So to be a so I like hearing it, man. And the one thing about getting to the league, it ain't no right, bro.

It's a privilege. So to be a part of that fraternity, man, and talk to guys about that, and hear how they came about it, man, I love it, man. I love it. And you good at it. That's what's crazy to me. Like, I'm listening, I'm like,

this thing actually good. He asked the right questions and shit. I'm like, this is good. So I was like, nah, this shit fire. I'm a fan, I watch every episode. Like I told you, y'all came out the gate with Jaren Jackson. Yeah, I can't y'all play with it. KD, D-Raw, I'm like.

No, and that's one thing, man, once you keeping it real, once you, you know what I'm saying, that motherfuckers fuck with you, man, they gonna fuck with you. And that's how we do, man. We wanna give everybody they flowers and just let them know, man, it's all love, man. Oh, before we do that here, I wanna say,

you also a ride motherfucker for what you did to Al Jefferson's truck, bro. Oh, you thought that was over? That was my first one, I said, this nigga here, man, I'll text you. I said, hey listen, do not give me your car. I was gonna say that right now. Do not give me your car, bro.

Can you please, just before we go out here, bro, tell them what you did to this nigga's truck, bro. So look man, I get the car, man, you know, we was real. Tell them what it is. It was a Humvee. So now we was real big on switching cars. And me, I did the nightlife a lot.

So I'd be out, I wanna get Gerald Green cars. Sometimes I'd switch up with Perks. Sometimes I'd switch up with whoever, right? And this specific time I wanted to ride a Humvee because Al had put some like four, five, 12s in the back of that one. I'm gonna put a beatin' so hard, whoom, whoom, whoom.

I'm like, so I end up going on a date and you know Cheesecake Factory just came out, bro. So that was the mood. But when you go into the clearance, you know, I don't know why I ain't getting folks $100 and pay for the valet right there in Four Seas. My cheap ass went right over there to the $12 parking and it clearly tell you it's a clearance.

I ain't think of the clearance cause the music's so loud. I'm trying to really show out in front of chick. I went through that motherfucker like boom, boom, boom. I say, what the hell are they shooting? I pulled, I kept going, bro. I kept going, bro. I'm like, hey, I ain't know what we're going on. So we get out the car, bro.

Soon we get out the car, the girl like, is the cop supposed to be like that? I say, man, this man gonna kill me. Turn that bitch into a drop top. Drop top. Turn that bitch into a cop. And so when I did that, bro, I ain't gonna lie, bro. I'll say, bro, you will never trade cops with me again, bro.

It was over with by then. So, but yeah, that happened, man. A little blooper. No, it's okay, appreciate you though. Shout out to the game man, appreciate it. Shout out, hey love, love, love. Check out OTG, Kinshlyn Nets, we appreciate y'all, shout out to Ray,

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