Club Shay Shay - Club 520 - Ty Young on VIRAL Coldplay concert, being female Allen Iverson, WNBA star
Episode Date: July 21, 2025We’re back with Season 3, Episode 79 of Club 520, where Jeff Teague and the guys are joined by Ty Young where she talks about being the female version of Allen Iverson for the WNBA, The guys the...n react to the VIRAL Coldplay concert cheating scandal that took the internet by storm, as well as talk about Ty playing at the same high school that Michael Jordan attended.5:45 - CEO caught at Coldplay concert7:30 - Hoopin in high school and JMU9:30 - NIL money11:30 - JMU career15:00 - Barbee’s drink16:00 - Laney HS19:00 - Female Iverson24:00 - Fans betting on games25:45 - WNBA growth28:00 - Short WNBA seasons30:00 - Creating TY1 merch31:15 - Rookie season32:45 - Shopping on game days34:00 - Seattle Nordstrom is elite35:00 - Living in Atlanta36:30 - Going on TV37:30 - Love & Hip Hop39:00 - Basketball Wives (can be just about her being on TV, if you need to bring it back to 35 min mark that's fine too it's about her TV career)42:15 - Chime milestone moment43:00 - Overseas basketball47:30 - Tommy John gift49:45 - Changes in players today55:30 - Favorite Jordan’s#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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For sure, Natal, when you walked in,
so you inquired about the throne of black forces
with the white laces, how you feel about those?
Yeah, I actually saw a few of them too.
I love black cakes with white laces,
but you know what they say about the black forces,
so I was just trying to figure out what's going on.
What they say.
Talk to them, what's the stigma?
You stumping on heads with them, huh?
Nah, we stumping on the devil head.
Okay.
Apostolic, Baptist, all that.
What size you wear?
Man, nine and a half, nine in forces.
Ah damn, I got you.
God damn, what you six one?
Six two.
Shit, she might post you up here.
Oh, she will. Oh, I don't might post you up here. Oh, she will.
Yeah.
Oh, I don't really post, I shoot.
Yeah, I about to say,
tied to like in the ass.
I'm putting it.
Come on.
I got a little fade away though.
You just dropped it.
You dropped it.
Drop step, little turn around, little shimmy.
Nah, I'll be sure to get you a couple pair though.
Now listen, we know you the fashion guy.
If you walk in the runway with them,
they think you might, you know what I'm saying?
Nah, she gonna dress him right. She gonna dress him right. I got you. in the runway with them, they think you might, you know what I'm saying? Stick up the joint. She gon' dress him right.
She gon' dress him right.
I got you.
I trust her with these.
That's real passive aggressive right there.
Fashion guy, I trust her with them.
I don't think she gon' bless them.
I mean, you got pairs stacked.
Oh, I got it.
That's just a couple, unfortunately.
Yeah, I had one point here.
I probably had about 16 pair.
I gave a lot of them away, but yeah.
I keep them on deck though.
Once you hit a lick, you get to change them.
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That's what we was on the block.
You said Family Dollar.
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For sure, to my right, my dawg, young Nacho,
young T, how you what?
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You know what I mean?
You know, I will say sometimes.
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Go on, start at the origin.
Oh, no, we having the 520 episode, right?
We having some fun.
Now, listen, I know we have not got a chance
to talk about this, I am happy that you were here.
We are about to talk about this right now.
Come on man, the CEO and Ms. HR, you know what I'm saying,
at the Coldplay concert, my boy was outside
with his side piece having a blast
and got caught on the kiss cam loaded Drake.
Like that was tough.
They said they was in a suite.
Dang, he called them out too.
That is crazy.
I would go around the pale and say,
how would y'all act in that moment?
I don't know.
I wouldn't even put myself in that moment.
Yeah.
Me?
I'm gonna give y'all a real answer.
I would have just stayed there.
Might as well.
Cause the video would have never surfed
cause they would have really thought we was a thing.
No, y'all hold on.
Did y'all not hear that man say?
They started running around.
Yeah, they made it too crazy though.
They made it hot.
I would have pointed at the camera and been like,
yeah, we made it.
I would have grabbed her hair.
Even if it's like the side piece,
if you plan it normal then,
I don't think everybody would have reacted like that.
Please go back to that video.
You see how uncomfortable they was in the beginning.
They was locked the fuck in.
I feel like the announcer,
he knew too much about Buddy.
Bro, he is the CEO of a company
and she is the HR head of the company.
That's what makes it funnier.
Yeah.
See y'all.
They should really shut the door there.
Yeah, cause bro ducked down.
And he got a little.
And she turned around like.
Yeah, like that's what killed it right there.
She said, oh Lord.
Yeah, you can't be scared of them.
You gotta lock in.
Billy they caught us.
I would have just started pulling my hands up.
And he puts his hands up and say,
yeah, everything in this camp
about to be half by the fucking morning.
He puts it on and say, yeah, everything in this camp about to be half by the fucking morning.
I'm gonna walk it.
Oh man, that's crazy, man.
Shouts to the people outside
doing what they gotta do for sure.
But how you living, you know what I'm saying?
You doing everything right now.
Coaching, getting fly, you on TV.
How's life treating you?
I mean, life is good for me.
You know, I just focus on whatever is in front of me.
Like when we got, when Teaspoon got fired from Chicago,
we didn't know that was gonna happen.
And so luckily I had already signed my deal
to do the TV show.
So I just work with what I got going on.
Man, what a transition.
Let's start to the origin of it obviously.
We wanted the coldest to do it.
Growing up, when you growing up,
Laney High School with Jordan went to school, you go to James Madison. What's that life like for you being cold in your city and then you go to James Madison
You know, I went to a school where I felt like I could play right away and I knew going to JMU
I didn't have to sit behind those scenes. I didn't have to wait like it was gonna be immediate impact
I was gonna be able to do my thing and that was one of the reasons I went there and
You know when you go from being that star player and you go to, like, I didn't really experience it
until the league.
So in college, I still got to play freely and do my thing.
And that's what I feel like helped me prepare
for the next level because I'm getting it in
right from the jump.
Yeah.
Could you have went to them other schools
like Caroline, Autumn Carolina schools. Could you have went to them other schools like autumn Carolina schools, could you have went?
Carolina was late with recruiting me.
NC State was a school that my high school,
like it was our team thing to go to.
So those were schools that I was looking at
being from North Carolina,
but when they wasn't really recruiting me,
I said the hell with it.
Yeah, I felt that.
Straight up.
And you talk about this all the time as a coach,
go somewhere where you can go and get your shit off.
No, go somewhere just cause it's a name,
where you sit behind people.
Go where you can get on the court.
Man, the most successful people go to schools
where they play right away.
You need that experience.
You ain't get no experience on the bench.
No.
Hell no.
So y'all would recommend a kid to go to a smaller school
more so than like a big school out the gate?
Shit, be here and shit, go where you celebrate it.
Not where you tolerate it.
Well for me, now in this climate,
you can go to a smaller school, kill,
and get a lot of money.
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean?
You can go.
That's true, you right.
Everybody got a little paper now.
Yeah, that was the NIL conversation now. With that, it changed your decision, you still. Everybody got a little paper now. Yeah, that was in the NIL conversation now.
Would that change your decision?
You still going where you was going?
She gonna get the paper.
It depends, you know, like I can't really say
because I didn't experience it,
but I felt like even at JMU,
I probably would have got the paper too.
All right, let's put the scenario out there.
Let's say you got 50,000 at JMU,
and you got 500,000 at JMU,
and you got 500,000 at Carolina, but you know you gonna sit the bench.
You know you gonna-
That's a big difference.
The way that I love the game though,
I would've went to JMU.
Cause I would've felt like I would've worked myself
into getting a bigger bag later.
I hate, I don't like, like I work too hard.
I don't like sitting in the bench, you know,
as a hooper, as a competitor, you know?
So I feel like I would have still went to JMU
and got the bag eventually.
I've never been a type to just chase bread though.
So I think it depends on the person and what you chasing.
Yeah, I fuck with that.
See, my parents would have been like, you going Carolina.
Yeah, but I'm just thinking like, if you in that position, like I'll fuck with that. See my parents would've been like you going Carolina Yeah, but I'm just thinking like if you in that position like I fuck with that story, you know work hard grind hard
God damn I feel like you could take this same
Position They beat somebody up. Make a motherfucker earn a position. The coach of this is gotta respect you.
You say that though, but after being in the league
and dealing with politics, you know you better than players
and you beat them out in practice
and you still be on the bench.
That's true.
Damn, so politics is heavy in women's basketball.
Heavy basketball.
I didn't know that.
That's news to me.
I didn't know that.
All the things is heavy in the world.
I didn't know girls was getting black ball like that.
I thought just the best player to play, she is.
No, that's not true.
I'm gonna say, every little one, everything,
it take a little different.
That's not true.
Yeah, that's not true.
Damn.
So what's that experience like getting on campus,
you know what I'm saying?
And you like the one on campus.
I mean, it was amazing. Everybody's showing love, but I also was like a workaholic.
So even though I was the best player, I still was the hardest working player on my team.
And I think that just was rooted in high school because I was, you know, I would get spoiled
and I try to do things, but then my coach would punish me immediately.
So even being the star player in high school, my coach wasn't going for none of that.
So I felt like that helped me transition to college
and still being a star player,
but still having that work ethic.
Do we still see that with kids now?
Obviously with Drew Coaching,
I know especially in your day,
it didn't matter who it was,
they was hard on whoever.
But nowadays with the social media and stuff like that,
if I got a million followers before I go to college,
coach, you really can't tell me I'm doing suicide.
Like, bro, I'll get-
They don't really run and stuff in college no more.
Cause like going to these visits with kids and stuff,
they don't do that no more.
Like all the stuff we went through,
they don't do it no more.
They say it cause it's too,
they too valuable.
Like I'm giving you a million dollars.
If you get hurt while we training and you gotta sit out
cause you pulled a hamstring.
That's tough.
You in the NBA, you know what I mean?
My job on the line.
They like, condition, he's like,
oh no, we don't, we just play, we don't do condition.
I was like, what?
Because you know, they saying it to kids
that go to my school, we running miles.
And they like, yeah, we don't do miles no more.
I'm like, what the?
Damn.
Time miles too.
Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is you saying?
Like, I don't know. Why they supposed to stay in shape though? I don't know, I feel like they. Bro, you on contract don't do miles no more. I'm like, what the? Damn. Time miles too. Yeah, I'm like, what the fuck is you saying? Like, I don't know.
Why they supposed to stay in shape though?
I don't know, I feel like they.
Bro, you on contract.
If you not in shape, bro, you get fined, bro.
I don't learn too much though, bro.
I don't like that shit.
No, you know, if you like too much,
they got you on contract.
Your body fat is too high.
If you don't meet certain requirements, you get fined.
So, I don't gotta do nothing.
You gonna be in shape or you gonna get fined.
People play when they need that money.
Oh, okay.
You're signed for a million and they say,
you ain't make your money.
We gonna fine you 10,000 every time you gonna meet this.
You gonna be like, shit.
Yeah, the fines are different.
Damn, that's crazy.
Especially like some of the players we've had on recently
talking about what they had to deal with.
You know, so we had Gabby Williams on,
she won the national championship,
ate some mental rights after.
That's crazy.
Now they pulling up to campus with the y'all means,
like before we pull up, we got it.
How much money you was getting in college?
You can say it now, I don't mind.
In college?
You was getting some money.
You had a program for $1,500, that's it.
Nah, that ain't it, bro.
I wasn't getting no money in college.
Damn, you boosters out of pocket, tap me in.
You was popular.
Yeah, but I wasn't getting no bread.
We wasn't, they wasn't doing none of that. Bro, she was lit.
They was hitting her hand, Joe.
She was trying to go back to the school.
They didn't want her to transfer.
She was trying to go back.
The jersey's already slip by now.
She's trying to go back in coats.
I wasn't getting no bread, it's crazy.
I get you, she's trying.
Oh, funny.
See, wait for it.
I ain't gonna fuck up your bag.
Listen, I thought I was rich with the 1,500 pound grant. By two funny. See wait for it. I ain't gonna fuck up your bag.
I thought I was rich with the 1500 Pell Grant.
By two Pell Kicks.
Wait for it, it's already done rolled me off.
It's all good, baby.
You from the trenches, I don't know if she grew up like you.
So she was probably cool with that 1500.
Does he act like he's from under the goddamn grave,
for real?
Oh me?
Yeah, which I was curious. I got a lot of brothers and sisters. So her 1500 is probably grave for real. Oh me? Yeah, which I was gonna say.
I got a lot of brothers and sisters.
So her 1500 is probably smooth for real.
Yours is like shit.
I got foster brothers and sisters.
It's true.
Do they count?
Yes.
Yeah, they start coming back around.
About two months ago, one of my foster brothers
and sister hit me, well you act fake now.
I was like, nigga, damn,
nigga was only at the house for three months.
So you my fake brother.
Have to get here.
Having the 10 brothers crazy.
We gotta have some fun, man.
What time is it be here?
Barbie.
Oh, man.
She showed up to work three episodes in a row.
This is a, let's get her a round of applause.
Shout out to Barbie.
Barbie, you came three times in a row, bro.
This must be a contract gift from Barbie.
No, my son's about to go to Disney World.
Oh, really? I know what's up with you.. This must be a contract gift from Barbie. No, my son's about to go to Disney World with me. Oh, really?
I knew it was coming.
I knew it was coming.
Oh, shit.
We better not be paying you no Disney World.
Thank you.
I'll send you to Disney World with me.
I know.
We better be.
She's got to work so her mother can
take her son on the trip.
Disney World, hide the motherfucker.
All right, Barbie, what we got today?
Check that nigga the Chuck E. Cheese.
You know, I do my spiel on the one like this.
Oh, good.
It's the young intern.
OK. He has tequila, strawberry, peach, be one like that. I already know. It's the youngin turn. Okay.
You can have tequila, strawberry, peach, and vanilla.
Okay.
I appreciate that, you know.
Shout out to Barbie.
I signed to Rock Nation now.
I was with Clutch.
We already signed to Clutch, where's allegations?
Damn, my boy left Siroc and went straight to Ducey.
I never was in Siroc.
Who I came to at?
He went in. He left Siroc. Who I cable at? He went, he went to Sir Rock?
Who I was never with Sir Rock?
Hold on, the allegations are crazy.
Who signed you to Sir Rock?
The real blue died.
Sir Rock.
No, no, don't, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He's joking.
I wanna know, when you was in high school, did y'all,
he's joking.
What's going on?
What's going on?
Like, wait.
That's a touching subject, you shouldn't do that.
Listen, did you, did y'all get Jordans That's a touching subject, you shouldn't do that.
Did y'all get Jordans when you was like crazy Jordans?
Nah, it didn't get crazy until later.
Like once they changed the gym,
put the emblem in the middle and all of that,
we was getting like basic Jordans.
One sweatsuit, one t-shirt.
They out of pocket.
Stand you with it, that's crazy.
She said one t-shirt. Come on, T Ty, now you acting like you with these stories.
We got one T-shirt, one sweatsuit.
No, I ain't going.
Mike can't do it like that, is he?
Kat, we not putting that sweat on Mike.
I have more lany T-shirts without the Jordan emblem
than I did with the Jordan emblem.
I'm just saying, but they got better now though.
You know?
Boy, y'all college stories.
Nah, this is high school.
That's high school.
High school, I mean.
You can go to my college.
I'm just saying like-
Nah, he didn't go to that school.
Just in general.
I was-
Respectfully.
Respect.
Respect.
He wanted to go to Wake.
He wanted to go to Wake, but we cool.
I'm just saying in general,
like my high school was piss poor, and just getting one t-shirt broke,
somebody was going.
He said you said with the Jordan t-shirt.
Yeah, with the Jordan emblem.
So you put a spot on Lainey, man.
Shout out to Lainey, man.
Send a care package.
I love my high school.
Shout out to Lainey.
Is it a big high school?
Respect.
I wouldn't say big, but it's-
Like how many students you got?
I don't know.
Cause we got like 5,000 at my high school.
Oh, I don't know that.
So I would imagine like everybody would want to go to Laney.
Like if I was in, if I grew up where you grew up,
I'd be like, shit, I want to go where Mike went.
Nah, we had Rivals.
Hanover, Hargert, Laney was the top.
And then like later Ashley came.
Nah, I was like, I ain't know if people was like that.
I'm going to go to that school cause Mike went there.
Cause I definitely probably would have went there.
I ain't gonna lie.
Damn.
2200?
Total?
Ah, damn.
Small.
You couldn't really get jiggy up there.
Hell no, I was at a Catholic school.
Damn, you can't get jiggy there.
Catholic is crazy.
Now that did small compared to our high school too.
For real.
Damn, you know, Jordan was in no school in no uniform.
He was like, they won.
No.
You're crazy.
We just all family in this motherfucker.
We locked in.
All my cousins there.
Damn, she got fight too.
For sure, now listen, you in the city, all star weekend.
How's it treating you so far, man?
First of all, I want to say this, first and foremost,
I know Katelyn Clark was supposed to be,
you know what I'm saying, the holla this weekend,
but she is not.
Shout out to the Stubb Buz, they have held it down.
They got the best shit smoking.
I've been a fan for a weekend.
What is that?
Are you ain't tapped in?
I'm not tapped.
Ah, Kourt and NT brought me to the live stream.
You've been seeing them everywhere, going crazy.
They've been going viral on the internet.
The two girls with the hair?
Yes, bro, they have held the W down, man.
Shout out to NT, shout out to court.
Now see, I don't wanna say too much, but.
That's the name of their pod is the stuff, but.
The buds.
Oh, so this is acceptable.
I get in trouble a lot on this show
because I don't be saying who this is.
I was like, yo, we going wild.
I thought we were going wild.
I thought we were going crazy. No, okay. Nah, they turning we going wild. I thought we were going wild. I thought we was going crazy.
No, okay.
Nah, they turning this bitch up.
I'll fuck with them the long way.
Okay, they streaming everywhere.
Hey, they going crazy.
Yeah, they've been going crazy with the camera.
Courtney Duff.
Courtney Williams and Teezy.
The fucking Duffie brothers, bro.
They been going nuts.
But they been having a blast, bro.
Oh, that's what's up, though.
Yeah, they was having fun.
I'm like, I've seen that.
Oh, they got the book back?
They like live streaming with the book back?
Oh, they fire, okay.
They go live every day at six, except for on game days.
And that's what they be on.
And everybody's seen it now,
but they been doing it since last year.
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I seen it, I seen it.
Fucking hilarious.
Yeah, they been going viral.
We gonna talk more about your journey,
but I wanna ask you now,
do you feel like you was ahead of your time
for what they're doing now in the W?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, yeah. I got black ball for a lot're doing now in the W? Oh, absolutely.
I got black ball for a lot of it too.
And I'm like, damn, like the league done opened up
with what they accepting and what they got going on now.
Yeah, that shit is crazy.
I like that they embraced it, but like you said,
it's a lot of people who came before them
that did not get the opportunity
and they looked at them a little bit differently.
And I know you could probably fully understand
from that shit.
You know, it's funny because I was talking to my friend,
even Race was saying like,
he was comparing me as being like the female Iverson,
like for our league and like the time of the things
that I was doing and what I got, you know,
like kind of blackball for.
Like doing reality TV was frowned upon,
coming to the games as fly as I was.
Like I had my coach talking to me crazy about it.
Like, oh, you coming off the bench,
but you on the front page magazine of fashion magazines.
I'm like, what the hell do I gotta do with anything?
You got me coming off the bench.
I should be starting.
My nigga, I can start right now, actually.
Right now, you know?
But it's like, now you see all the fashion
and all the attention that they getting from it.
And even with the stud blood streaming part,
like they had the commission on one of them.
She was on one of the streams.
So yeah, I was just like, wow.
And that's all her.
This weekend in New Orleans, UFC 318.
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Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
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There's a famous headline, I think in the New York Daily News, it's, Teddy escapes,
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And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you.
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But that's something that I've been even in meetings
trying to push, is like with the marketing of the league,
it's like you need to showcase the ladies off the court as well.
Like, fans want to feel like they know us.
And you get more fans in.
Yeah. I was so dumbfounded,
because I'll talk about it once more, I tried to work for the dumbfounded, cause I'll tell you about once in a while,
I tried to work for the Fever,
and they were so excited about the fact that,
oh, we're gonna do tunnel fits.
No shit, everybody has an Instagram.
What's so innovative about that?
You have women who get fly, who are literally models,
and you're so happy about that.
And it's just like, now they're more progressive with stuff,
and now the personality is still in the game.
It's just like, what took y'all so long to get there?
I mean, is it younger people running stuff now on the W?
No, it's just things are inevitable.
It just, at some point you just look foolish
if you're not growing and not embracing the things
that can help you grow.
Cause the media coverage now around the W
is way bigger than it's ever been though.
So maybe that's it.
Amen.
I had a shot of Stubbuzz.
They had the city cracking.
Angel Reese talking about us, Miami and Indy.
I don't know what Miami she's been to,
but if you feel like that about Indianapolis,
salute, we'll take the compliment.
Damn, I should've went out.
I feel like Miami.
I ain't.
Angel's also 23, so.
Yeah.
Oh, okay, sorry.
She went out with us in Miami, actually, so.
She definitely did went out with us.
Shout out to Angel.
We felt like that night.
I should have been out there.
I seen Kelsey Plum taking that Crown Royal to the throne too.
I said, boy, they having a time, boy.
Yeah, she was on the straight,
but that's not no she was different.
That's my second favorite white girl.
Oh, you know, I forgot you rock with Sabrina.
Sabrina, she's my boy.
I was about to say who you're first.
Sabrina, yeah, she got nice shoes.
Her shoes is tough. Sabrina in that three point contest?
I ain't checking.
Dog.
She won?
She got Alicia.
Damn, Alicia.
Alicia made it to the finals.
I was pulling for Alicia.
ATL, me and me.
Yeah, the dream.
I picked Sabrina.
You did pick Sabrina.
You're going to go against our guest.
See, I'll rock with whoever come on the show.
I don't care about that.
I need my money.
Alicia wants this song.
She's like, I'll fuck with Alicia.
That's why he got the black purses over there.
I'll fuck with Alicia.
You ain't about to spank her.
She can't fuck up the life.
She wasn't gonna hit my head if she lost.
She had to breathe.
I was all about that, too.
Obviously, with the progression of sports gambling,
how would you feel, you know what I'm saying,
the possibility of being able to like gamble on the games and stuff?
Obviously not you as a player currently, you know what I'm saying?
No Jontay Porter, no Terry Rosario, but
there's so much that's progressing out here.
Let's just keep going.
Freely and easily, man.
Whatever you got going on.
She just got done coaching too though, but she probably
still want to be a part of W,
so she can't talk about that stuff.
I'm just saying the possibility that that's even there,
like he said, you joking about,
but we even can do that now.
That wasn't even a possibility then.
That was sports gambling then.
Sports gambling is nuts, but.
Yeah, I don't even gamble though.
I know.
Well, I'ma ask you this about the gambling.
Do you hear people at the games,
because he got rid of Q off of getting a rebound
in the NBA game. Do you hear motherfuckers at because he got rid of you from getting a rebound in the NBA game?
Do you hear motherfuckers at the game,
like fans going crazy, like,
damn, put her in the game or goddamn,
we need two more points from you, da da da.
Yeah, if they sitting close enough,
and it's funny, because I was at an Atlanta game
the other week and one of the fans was sitting beside me.
He was like, when we be yelling and y'all out there,
can y'all hear us?
And I'm like, yeah, when y'all courtside
and y'all like right by us, if it's like a dead moment, yeah.
But a lot of times when you locked in,
you not really hearing it unless it's like something crazy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Cause he heard the fan talking to him.
No, they started chanting.
Yeah.
Bobby needs one more.
That's how his name that Bobby.
Oh yeah.
They needed one rebound and I grabbed it.
I didn't know.
Like I don't.
Fuck the land.
They like what?
Get him out of there.
Three rebounds on the year.
What the hell are you doing?
It's a nigga rent who was passed too
and you fucked up.
I'm not for sure.
Cause why are you so fucking thirsty for a rebound now?
The ball literally.
Get out of the way.
I don't wanna go for rebounds.
I'm scared to roll my ankle.
The ball literally just fell on my hand.
I'm like, I start to break, come down, they subbed me out.
They like, what the hell are you doing, D?
You get three rebounds on a whole year, set the fuck down.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
Nah, that's crazy.
Looked up at the D, got to the locker room,
Bobby needed one more rebound.
I was rolling.
I'm like, yeah.
That's the funny thing about this,
because I can't imagine going as a player,
hey nice to meet you, hey man, you owe me some money.
Yeah, people be saying that.
Yeah, the fans, they don't care.
Matter of fact, a dude at your party the other day,
the Hendrix experience, asked me if he could sue Malik Beezle.
Man, why?
Because he was like, hey, am I allowed to sue him?
Because he had one three, and I feel like he didn't take the three because he was betting. I was like, nigga, am I allowed to sue him? Cause he had one three and I feel like he didn't take
the three because he was bitten.
I was like, nigga, go sit down.
Well, you can't sue, but.
He was dead serious.
Honestly, I kinda feel that.
No, no, I feel that.
Put somebody in a class session lawsuit
because you didn't do your job the way I would.
You two was crazy.
Go sit down.
But it's hilarious.
So the nigga man go, hey man, go protect the door.
It's security.
Go to. Don't be telling my people to go protect the door. It's security. Yeah.
Don't be telling my people to go protect the door nigga.
That's your bit?
You are a guest.
I'm like three niggas didn't walk there.
He about to be down security guard fucking with you.
Cause he tripping about that bit.
How you feel about the growth of the game though, the W?
No, I feel like it's very, like it's elevated.
Social media, but honestly when the league first got, Now I feel like it's very, like it's elevated social media.
But honestly, when the league first got,
when the league first started,
games was being sold out, games was packed.
Like I remember my auntie was a season ticket holder
for the Liberty and we was sitting up high.
Like, cause the games were sold out, you know?
And so now it's like new fans are people
that's starting to watch the W is thinking that oh, it's a major difference now
When games was being sold out then but now it's almost like it's going back to that time now
You're seeing players in different commercials and things that happened back in 97 98 when the league first started
See is a probably why people are feeling that way too because of the drop off of the years
Yeah, I feel like after the Comets went on they run
and then who was it?
The Sparks.
The Sparks.
The Storm.
Detroit won.
Detroit.
Then after that it was kind of like a dead period.
What you think happened?
I honestly go back to the marketing.
It's like, it got to a point where they was just trying
to market certain players.
And when you think about the league,
like majority of the league is black.
Like we keeping it a buck, you know?
And it's like, you not marketing those players the same
as you was trying to market certain players.
But now I feel like they're doing a better job
marketing more players.
Making it more relatable to people.
Showing y'all personality,
cause most people looked at it as like,
oh, it was just these girls playing basketball.
You wasn't showing personality.
You didn't know what they was about.
Now you get to see Angel's Reese personality.
Even Kailin Korg, we just seen,
I know they don't want us to see her drinking
and being that kind of person,
but it make her feel more relatable.
Like damn, she actually a human.
She actually do real shit.
We are humans, and it's like, show that.
Yeah.
But y'all weren't playing that many games either.
What you mean that many?
I feel like a motherfucker was 12 and six
and then now we about to start the championship.
So, I'm like,
motherfucker give me a chance to watch this shit
and maybe I'll tap the fuck in.
Moved up like five games.
Talk about 12 and six. I was just saying what I like Moved up like five games. You talking about 12 weeks?
I'm just saying.
I'm like.
It seems it was 28 games.
No, I'm like, and shout out to the women.
You feel me?
I fuck, for real.
Like, we talk about it.
I know we get a lot of slack for the W,
but we talk about the Cheryl swoops in them all the time.
You know what I'm saying?
But I feel like it just, you talk about the market,
but I'm like, how can you market them?
And we see y'all just for a couple months, and then it's a red. This is a high take for me
I think college basketball kind of messed up the W
Cuz we didn't really when the comments and all them was winning
We didn't really get to see them ladies in college basketball. Like I don't remember
Coming there. Oh, I don't remember her plan to college
Yeah, but you can't I remember her playing in college, I was too young. She was like 30 coming to the league. But UConn was so dominant.
She started overseas.
But UConn was so dominant in college
at that period of time,
you didn't really even get to see anybody else.
If you didn't go to UConn, you didn't really matter.
Almost at that point, because they was winning so much
and they was like beating people by 80.
So when they went to the league,
it's like, oh, we're going to watch UConn.
We go looking for the girls to play at UConn.
Yeah, UConn, Tennessee.
Yeah, those teams.
But now, with it's more like people going
to different schools and it's more people like,
you know, you got Iowa with Kailin Clark,
you got Juju at USC, you got these other schools.
You start looking at players, like, oh, they all right too.
Like even Angel Reese, LSU,
we didn't really get to see that
because everybody was just going to UConn. But yeah, now you got the players that's going to different schools, had a shoe. We didn't really get to see that because everybody was just going to UConn.
That's true.
But yeah, now you got the players
that's going to different schools,
making a difference.
What made you jump off the porch with it though?
Like, fuck it, J'A'N'E branded me,
I'm about to goddamn get it cracking.
Cause you got it cracking.
It was more so like the fans was like
asking about buying my jersey.
And like I was a fan favorite,
but I wasn't a star to where the league
was selling my jersey.
So I started with T-shirts and I saw the,
like just my logo, T-Y-1, and they was buying them up.
So then I continued to just grow the brand.
So it was really like the fans just showing love
and made me really jump into it.
See that's crazy that as a player,
that your jersey isn't in like the team shop.
So you have to make your own merch for people to buy.
And guess what?
After I started selling my own merch,
they started selling my jersey.
Usually how I go.
They was trying to tap in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What you think made you so popular though with the fans?
Personality.
Like it's even in college, like I would do certain stuff.
Like I was scoring college, throw up number 11,
throw up T-Wise, like I just interacted with the fans.
And I had that same personality,
whether I was coming off the bench,
whether I was starting, whether I was scoring two or 20,
like I just interacted with them.
So I was already showing my personality.
Yeah, finally.
So when you do that in college and it's successful
and you get to the W, obviously lottery pick,
what's that moment like, does your coach embrace that?
Or they telling you, nah,
you need to tap back in with the program.
So initially she didn't really say too much
until it was a veteran player that kind of started hating.
Who was hating?
We will not.
Her name Izzy.
Damn, she was.
I was playing too.
Hell nah.
Swish this.
Me from Brazil too.
I was just playing.
Nah, she was hating.
I like her.
I'm authentic.
And she act like me. Put a name on that bullet, I like her. I'm authentic. And she act like me.
Put a name on that bullet.
I like it.
And I'm just like, my coach was like, oh, you won't understand.
You were rookie, but I got to make some changes.
And she made changes.
And it's just like, for what?
But it didn't change our outcome.
We still was four and like 30.
But I don't know.
Yeah, it was early stages of the dream, she started having a conversation like,
you know, you're not in college no more.
You need to start sharing the ball with your teammates.
And I, so it kind of got in my head.
You know, I was a rookie.
So now I'm questioning my own game.
Damn.
That's crazy.
Every player who comes on this platform says that
they get the culture early on.
The question is if they can play basketball or not.
And y'all would be the people who make it.
And we both got drafted to Atlanta.
Come on ACL.
Yeah, what was your experience like going,
getting drafted to Atlanta?
Cause mom's a,
man.
It was a good vibe.
Her girl was nasty on Atlanta.
What's her name?
He's talking about, my girl did a 360 layup,
Angel McCotry.
Angel McCotry.
Angel was after me.
Yeah, she was after you.
The year she came, I ended up getting traded
at the end of the season.
But my first year, welcome to Atlanta.
Like I remember one time I was there,
we was in New York for the game
and I almost missed the bus to go to the game.
Cause I was out shopping.
I literally had to get out the taxi and like run to make it.
So it was different things, you know,
I'm hanging out, getting used to it, but it was cool.
How the hell you do, what?
Hold on, it ain't like they left you.
You knew you had to be somewhere.
Yeah, no, they didn't leave me.
I barely made it.
I made it though.
But I-
You asked her to just go shopping since she was in there.
So that was a thing for me.
I used to go shopping on game days.
I didn't take naps.
But the traffic in New York had me messed up that day.
My time was a little off that day.
Nah, she learned New York real quick.
Before the game is crazy.
It's crazy.
They games at like 12, though.
I guess they had to match the games.
No, we had a late game that day.
Oh, yeah, you was lost. What's she gonna say?
What's up?
Did she open a store?
Did she open a conflict?
I didn't take naps though.
Even until my last year, 12 years in the league,
I didn't take naps on game day.
Oh yeah, she did.
Hey coach, one of your players said,
hey coach, I'm late to the bus.
I'm about to go to Calhoun real quick.
They getting left.
But she said she barely made it, so you went in there.
Yeah, you make it on time, you gonna get on the bus. But if you late, you getting left. But she said she barely made it, so you wouldn't know. Yeah, if you make it on time, you gonna get on the bus,
but if you late, you getting left on my bus.
Yeah, they leave and they figure it out.
I got left a bunch of times.
And pay that fine.
What's a slept on city to shop in?
Seattle.
Seattle?
Yeah, that Nordstrom, they Nordstrom got,
ain't it like the first Nordstrom?
They got, they Nordstrom got stuff
that other Nordstrom they never have.
Oh, okay.
They Nordstrom like a Neiman Sachs, just in Nordstrom.
Damn.
And they got some little side shops.
I like Seattle for shopping.
And I would have never thought so
if I like never went there and actually went shopping.
So you a piece by piece or you a outfit shopper?
No, piece.
Piece by piece.
I don't know how y'all be getting by on these clothes.
I'm nothing.
Gas station T me to death.
But that's a part of her life though.
Five dollars.
That's what she do bro.
Yeah, I'm a-
So you went to the face.
I'm out the- yeah, I spent the hundred bands.
And he dressed like Future for a whole year.
Nigga, no.
I did. I dress like me, he dressed like you for a whole year
Dressed like me Don't worry about it. What you doing at Fedora? What you in at Fedora? Look, what you did in Atlanta? I'm just for shit.
Yeah, ask him some questions about Atlanta.
Ray, how was Atlanta when you first got your ass in?
I moved to Atlanta when I was 20.
I left when I was 28.
Think 27, 28.
So you know, you didn't all the way lead to you.
I mean, I still lived there.
I moved when I was 30 something.
It was a vibe.
Yeah.
Atlanta cool. It's easy vibe. Yeah. Atlanta Cool.
It's easy to figure it out though.
It's like a group of like 3,000 people that all hang out.
You'll figure out.
Yeah, you'll start figuring out.
After you figure that out.
Yeah, I'm not going there.
Yeah, you'll get out of it.
Like at first you'll be like, damn, that's fine.
Yeah, then you start seeing,
oh, this is 3,500 people.
Was it hard for you to stay locked in in Atlanta
so far as like what you was there for at the hoop?
My first year, kinda, yeah.
Like as a rookie, but I got traded the second season.
And so then when I was traded back in 2017,
I was in the league 10 years by now.
So it was like, yeah.
But my first season, yeah, it was.
You still living in A now?
It's always my primary residence.
Oh, you're street locked in.
Yeah.
I'm kind of over it though now.
I was just talking to my friends about moving.
What were you thinking about going?
Dallas.
She stayed locked in.
Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, they all.
Charlotte.
No, Dallas is not like Atlanta.
It's not.
Houston is more like Atlanta.
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So what happened at Chappaquiddick?
Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969
when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond
and left a woman behind to drown.
There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News.
It's Teddy escapes, blonde drowns.
And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you.
The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes.
Will Ted become president?
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal.
The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it.
So is there a curse?
Every week we go behind the headlines
and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
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American history is full of wise people.
Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.
Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down.
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When we started the Athletes Unlimited league, I was in Dallas for like a month and some
change almost two months and I liked it.
It was cool.
So what's that moment like where you go to your coach and say, hey coach, I'm about to
be on TV?
I don't. You just do it I'm about to be on TV. I don't.
You just do it? I just pop out on TV.
So they don't got like, I mean, I don't know how that works though.
I never been on TV like that.
You just do it with like, the NBA, they might reach out to you.
I mean, the NBA, y'all making millions.
NBA like, hey yo, what's up?
What you got going on?
Like tap in. That's all I was gonna say. Is there a conversation needs to be had? Your coach is like, oh youall making millions. Yeah, ABA like, hey, yo, what's up? What you got going on? Like tap here.
That's all I was gonna say.
Is there a conversation needs to be had?
Your coach is like, oh, you're on TV.
Y'all thought she had to ask permission to get on TV?
Yeah, no, man.
No, you don't really gotta ask permission,
but I just feel like I was a teammate
with a guy that was on TV.
And it was just like a lot of rules he had, like.
Chris Humphries.
He was on TV.
Oh, well yeah, he was on the craziest TV show.
And he comes here.
But it's a lot different for y'all though.
Like y'all making a lot more money.
And then especially then, like,
yeah, they making more money now,
but then like, you look dead.
Yeah, how are we gonna feed your family?
I mean, they didn't like it, obviously.
Like, and they started being weird afterwards,
but I gotta do what's best for me.
Like the league is a business,
they gonna do what's best for them. Every time. So I gotta do what's best for me. Like the league is a business, they gonna do what's best for them.
Every time.
So I gotta do what's best for me.
You enjoy being on TV?
It's cool.
It's different when I did love and hip hop
than now doing basketball, Wives.
But for me, I don't change.
Like I'm me whether I'm on TV or not.
So it's not complicated.
A lot of people get on TV
and they start trying to be somebody they not.. And now you gotta kinda live up to that.
You was on B-Hand favorite show.
What?
Love and Hip Hop, baby.
Yeah, I was tapped in.
Back then it was way better too.
Yeah.
It was way better back then.
I don't even watch it now.
Off of Karen, we can have some good talks about that.
I only seen Love and Hip Hop with my boy.
Steven.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The first four seasons of love and hip-hop.
Top tier sheet.
Hold on, what?
That's when Jim Jones was on there?
No, that wasn't.
That's New York.
That was New York.
Oh, oh.
Now you talking about Tahiria now.
Oh, that's New York.
New York is different.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tahiria, yeah.
Respect. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm tired. No, bro. Not for that reason, bro. No. I just remember cause we used to bring the parties.
Nah, respect.
Yeah, yeah.
We used to invite all the love and hip hop people
on the party.
Yeah, that was everybody from New York though.
Yeah.
Nah, Atlanta, those first couple seasons
was some of my favorite TV of all time.
Who?
I feel like back then too, it was more real.
Like now I feel like a lot of people are trying to do
storylines just to be on TV.
Like back then you could tell like even the shocking factors
like damn like she ain't even know that was coming.
Yeah.
Damn I got a tap.
I didn't know you was on basketball while it was my fault.
I probably didn't do my research,
but damn that's what's up.
What's that like?
See basketball wise I'm a main cast.
So it was, I had to do way more filming
than I did Love & Hip Hop.
I just did guest appearances with My Lady I Was With Then.
So it was more filming, but it was less time.
Like it was way more, production was way better
than when I was doing like Love & Hip Hop, I feel like.
Okay.
Yeah, and you guys are going there with the camera.
You just got to get your shit off and leave.
Yeah.
That's the best part about Love and Hip Hop.
The cameo, the side quest that was on that show
used to be hilarious.
You would come here for 15 minutes
to fuck up a whole week worth of shit.
Mona's still the goat, bro, though.
Mona is still the goat.
I ain't really tapped in.
Yeah, Mona Scott, that's the goat of the year.
Only thing I remember about basketball wives,
they used to always go on like fake trips.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We went on trips.
They went fake, why you say fake trips? No, I'm saying, cause I be like. You, but oh yeah, yeah. We went on trips. They went fake. Why you say fake trips?
No, I'm saying, cause I be like,
You fired a new one though.
All right, I ain't watched it in like 10 years.
But Shaq, wife and them.
Yeah, I'm like, y'all all hate each other now.
Y'all all about to go to
What the fuck is going on?
Costa Rica.
Heaven together.
But that's kind of like how it go though.
Oh, okay, so that's real.
You working, you know what I'm saying?
So you really will be beefing with people
and then you gotta go on a trip.
Oh, I'm nothing, that's a fight.
Yeah.
That's exactly what they want.
That's right.
Yes, they fighting on there now.
They're not like fist fighting, but they,
well, I mean, you watched this season,
it get a little crazy.
I'm gonna tap in.
Somebody throw a drink on you?
Nah, nobody throw no drink on me.
Nah.
Hey, that's the only point for this shit, is that reality TV nigga throw a drink on me. No. No. Hey, that's the only point for this shit.
Reality TV, a nigga throw a drink on you so fast.
Man, love and hip hop, that's why I love love and hip hop,
because I knew that Motherfucker Lemon Drop was coming.
It's ratchet.
It gets so ratchet.
I gotta go tap.
Because security gonna start messing with my hood.
Y'all went on a trip this year?
We went on two trips.
You got way more booze.
The ladies is more boozy on basketball wise
than when I was on Love and Hip Hop.
That's a little bit of a different budget as well.
They all coming from some nice situations.
Yeah, right.
Exactly, so it's different.
But yeah, we went to Vegas and we went to Hawaii.
So the beefs be real though.
Yeah.
Damn.
Shout out to that.
I didn't know the beefs be real.
I thought basketball wise was stupid.
The thing is, it's like,
you will have something going on with somebody
and then you will have a scene
and you don't really know who gonna be at your scene.
So then like, it's somebody that you kind of not,
you know what I mean?
Like, beefing with you, you be like,
and then they say something,
then you ready to put them black horses on.
No, okay, okay.
Hey, send them with her.
I ain't noticed no one back home.
I know somebody's getting straightened. Oh, please, David. What the white lady with her. I ain't noticed nobody. We see them on back of our house, and somebody's getting disgraced.
Oh please, David, you do.
What the white lady?
I can't wait to see that.
That's some vibes.
All right, Versha, listen man, shout out to Chyme, man.
We love Chyme.
Our Chyme, mom, we want to ask you,
what was that first moment like when you got some paper,
what'd you do?
What'd you crash out with?
Not something responsible, not go buy your mama a house,
not go pay no bills, no loans.
You went to the mall with Krazy, what you do?
Who?
You.
I was buying clothes.
Oh, you crashed off the call, you went crazy?
White clothes, shoes, I had the belt.
Oh, and back then when I first was in the league,
I got the Gucci belt with the Gucci shoes,
the Gucci polo just looking like a whole mannequin.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, that's the eye of Nordstrom definitely
went through your rookie budget for sure.
Oh yeah, you smoked that boy. You your rookie budget for sure You smoked that?
You smoked it?
You behind Gucci?
I told you I came from $1500 at J and U
I went to get no checks
Oh yeah, $1500 over about $30k?
Oh yeah, you fucked that up with Gucci that day
The hat, the backpack, the hat
She bought the whole salad
She doing her best.
Look, I had to go overseas.
I had to go overseas.
You had to go overseas.
You had to go overseas.
You had to go overseas.
What's overseas like?
Did you enjoy it?
It was different.
I enjoyed the experience, but it was long.
Them seven, eight months over there was tough.
Shit.
Like, away from your family and, you know, living in a different culture, all you really had was tough. Shit. Like away from your family and, you know, living in a different culture,
all you really had was basketball.
Practicing twice a day, it's a grind.
What's some of the countries you played in?
Brazil, China, Latvia, France, Turkey.
Damn.
Brazil to China is a vast difference.
Yeah.
Brazil probably lit up.
Brazil was nice and it was high.
I was by the beach.
Oh yeah, you played in Israel?
Yeah, I speak no English though.
Yep, I went to Israel three times.
My brother said he loved Israel.
He said it's like a baby Miami.
Yeah, I love Israel.
He was in love one time. Americanized,
everybody speak English,
and back then I had four Americans on my team.
Oh yeah.
So.
Y'all was having a time.
And then all the teams is like right there by each other.
The fatherless team was like an hour or two hours. All right, that's more damn. So wait
I'm confused. That's only 12 months in a year
Waffle, you play. When they still trying to figure shit out.
She play all year round.
Yeah.
Damn. All year round.
Well, I guess you got to to make it make sense.
Yeah, I was gonna say that's crazy.
Cause like, oversea, it kind of like overlap.
So like, if you make it to the playoffs,
then you late going overseas.
And you definitely try to miss that.
What's the money difference like,
not to be in your pockets,
but like from the NBA, W to like overseas?
It just depends on the team and the players.
Like for me, it wasn't that crazy
except when I went to China.
Okay.
Like what I was making in China for a month was like,
I'll say a little bit less than what I was making for like six months in Israel.
Damn.
But then like Israel is like, they kind of try to pay you a little less because they
know that Americans want to come there.
You know what I mean?
Like, so it ain't like you going to somewhere where it's like Russian freezing cold.
You know what I mean?
So they kind of play into that.
But it's some players that was making millions overseas.
I wasn't making millions overseas.
So I'm cool.
Like I did five years back to back
and then I started taking breaks.
Damn.
Damn, millions though.
It's not like you did the bid.
You said five years back to back.
Yeah, she said, she may seem like prison.
I ain't gonna lie.
I was like, I started the bag.
But it feel like, you know, like straight five years,
WNBA overseas, like no break, that's tough.
Ain't that adjustment coming back to W,
you know what I'm saying, coaches got systems over there,
they probably letting you get your shit off
a little bit more.
Yeah, for sure.
It was a little more physical to overseas.
What do you think about, like,
you said you made the most money in China.
Yeah.
Did you, I know you feel like a superstar there though.
Yeah, I mean, but most things,
I felt like a superstar overseas.
For real?
Because they want the Americans to basically like
do the most work.
But I'm saying as far as like the fans,
like China, they love basketball.
Everywhere I played overseas, they loved the game.
Damn, for real?
I gotta get out a little more.
The fan base is crazy, yeah.
Damn, I know China was crazy.
Yeah, China was crazy though.
I love China, so. Imagine, China was crazy though. I love China, so.
Imagine, I went to China one time,
and I was a star.
Yeah, nigga, yeah, they knew my name.
I mean, are you sure?
I had a thousand fans.
D-Rose had 150,000 fans.
Yeah, didn't you?
Steph Curry had 300,000.
Right, you was an ornament on the tree.
They got you.
No, it was crazy though.
He went angels top.
Hell no, that nigga was in the back.
That nigga was in the back.
That nigga said I was a star.
I got you.
To be a star, like to be a star-ter, not a star.
Shit.
To be starring on the TV, then you see that many people cheering for other people.
In a thousand motherfuckers, there's a lot of people, bro.
Bro.
Already.
There's like a thousand people with Jeff T-shirts.
I'm like, oh shit.
I look to the right, this cat with like 60,000,
we ain't got like 50.
They're all, Derrick Rose got 150,000 people
just going crazy for him.
He like, what the fuck?
Damn, shout out to the overseas connect.
Listen, we appreciate you sliding through.
We ain't done yet, but you know what I'm saying?
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We got a little gift for you.
She like family now, man.
This ain't even like-
Okay, I love gifts.
Gosh, you shout out to the good people, Tommy John.
Shout out to Tommy John.
Man, Tommy John, good people for sure, man.
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Hopefully you like it, you know what I'm saying?
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Be here, you still mogglin'ling mad, they trying to lock you in.
Yeah, I'm a commando today.
Usually when I wear drawers, they Tommy John.
Commando.
Say hi to my girl over there.
Tommy John's my preferred drawers too,
I ain't gonna lie to you.
I'm not sure if that's part of their summer collection,
but tap in with B.H. if you want that.
Tommy John's my preferred though.
I'll rock with Tommy John.
Being the CEO like this.
For sure.
They don't comfortable though.
I ain't gonna lie to you.
Now the pants they sent me was fire.
I mean the underwear was cool.
But the, yeah, the army.
I like that smut suit.
It's crazy.
When I got them on, they on.
You hear me?
Respect.
When they're off, that is none of our concern.
Respect, Ken.
When they're off to Tommy John.
Respect, Ken.
What's the difference between you obviously playing at a high level and now instructing
people to play at a high level?
What's that like that transition like trying to get players to play like how you played
or tell them to be professional?
You know what I'm saying?
You're on the other side of the table now.
It's different, you know, but I just try to teach them the things that I've learned,
you know, from playing.
And sometimes as a coach, after being a player,
you be like, damn, sometimes you just feel like
you just want to get out there and show them
or do it yourself.
But it's just about adjusting and learning
that each player is different
and how you speak to each player
and how you get each player going is different.
But you learn and you adjust as you're going.
Are these players more spoiled now?
What?
Way more spoiled.
Oh, dang.
Uh-oh.
Are they spoiled or are y'all talking to Coach T too?
Are y'all just the old heads now?
Cause all the OGs, BA's, and these unspoiled whippersnappers,
y'all just the OGs now.
I'm like, I'm not far removed.
Like I was just playing with some of them last year.
So I'm not hating.
And you know, it is what it is.
Like some of the things, like even for other coaches
that I spoke to before I got into my coaching realm
is that they have to coach these kids differently.
They can't take it.
Like you got mental health things now, you know,
so you gotta watch how you speak to them.
My coaches was flipping tables over when I was playing.
You know what I mean?
So it's just a difference.
And even if they're not spoiled,
it's just a different generation. Especially like some of these kids, I don't say kids,
but some of these young ladies and young men going into these programs, shit y'all make one
way into coaches. Now, you know what I'm saying? In certain places that was always the case,
but especially now, like especially women's basketball and the NIL, like we talk about the
NCAA, they've had the best tournament the last five to six years, landslide.
So that's reflecting in that pain.
Now I'm going to the W like,
I make more money than everybody here, bro.
You know, about talk to me crazy.
Yeah.
Nah, kids use that mental health shit a little bit too far.
Like-
Nah, you can't say that.
I, well, God damn it, you can't.
I am.
Fuck that.
No, no.
They do, bro.
Cause sometimes they get in the way of them
working hard for real, bro.
For real.
Mental health is definitely for real.
It's real.
Yeah, there's people who deal with that.
There's people who really deal with that, but bro.
Your coach healing that too,
it's not mental health, bro.
Tap in.
It's okay, bro.
Just lock in, bro.
He not hurting your feelings.
You don't have to go listen to Rod Wave
and think about ending it.
You know what I mean?
It's cool.
No, no.
What?
No, bro.
I'm just saying for real though, bro.
The kids is way too soft these days.
Let me say that.
You don't gotta say that.
I do not, don't.
Just stand along, bro.
It ain't bullying though.
I just ain't.
I'm just talking, bro.
He said bullying.
No, for real, coaches are really like,
it's kinda hard cause you gotta like,
them and your coach are all these kids different for real.
Yeah, but that's all.
And if you come from a, you had crazy coaches, you did too, bro. It's kind of hard because you got to like them their coach all these kids different for real. Yeah, but from
You had crazy coaches you did to burn you I come from two different, you know
I mean size of the earth now when you got kids you got a
Johnny needs this type of love you can't love on him as far as you love on Isaiah or you can't be on him as hard
As you as you know, I'm saying the next month
But that's that's always been a part of it though. That's like if being a point guard and she would know too, you know what I'm saying, the next motherfucker. So. But that's always been a part of it though. That's like, if being a point guard, she would know too,
you know, being a guard,
you got different relationships with everybody.
So you gonna talk to,
you might talk to your big man a little different,
cause you know, he's setting screens,
or she's setting screens for you to get you open.
You might have a,
hey baby, hey, I'ma hit you on that roll next time.
You playing great.
Yeah, you talking about from a player.
Yeah, but I'm saying it's the same thing from coaches,
cause when you a guard, you a coach on the floor.
So that's why it's easier for point guards or guards
to transition to coaching,
because we know we already got a baby certain people
or talk to this person this way.
And then you might have another guard on the team
where you can cuss them out,
like get going, what the hell are you doing?
Let's get buckets.
That's what gets them going.
Yeah, and that's what I've seen too from the coaching side,
just because from a player,
you not really looking at your teammates
the same way as you are as a coach.
And you realize some players,
they react or act the way that they do
because of even their upbringing
or what they not getting at home.
And so it's like, you gotta be a little,
show them a little lighter love where some players,
they get into love at home where you could show them
tougher love and they understand.
I got you.
So.
Yeah, but you learn that as a player though.
Like you be around people when you hear people's stories
like us, when we talk, you be like,
boy, you act like you was the poorest nigga in the group.
Yeah, you do.
I ain't saying I wasn't poor.
My mama did a great job.
You helped me question a lot of people.
Carol and Sean, please.
Cause they always go, why you act like you was just dirt poor?
I act like I was dirt poor.
We just had a lot of kids.
Your mama be mad at me for the shit you share.
I'm like, this is your goddamn son
sharing these dark ass stories.
Cause you had a lot of kids.
I'm like, why you had all these damn kids?
I ain't gonna lie, growing up in the house
with a bunch of group home babies,
I would have been nothing.
I mean, it was always seven or eight people in my house.
Kids.
Yeah, I'm nothing, bro. Always. That's funny coming from you, cause you know, so you had. Yeah. Kids. Yeah, I'm nothing, bro.
Always.
That's funny coming from you,
because you know you had a lot of siblings,
but they just forgot.
Yeah, I'm the youngest out of 10,
but it's different in my house.
So it wasn't like randoms coming into the crib,
like with they bangs walking in.
No disrespect to us.
Randoms is crazy.
All of y'all that lived with us at that period of time.
Nah, shout out to the Dark Lives.
I'm saying, you, for real.
They was good people.
One of them stole some of my jewelry though.
That little nigga stole my jewelry,
I still like forget your little ass.
I don't have no dark times like that bro,
there was 10 of us.
What was his name, where mooc at?
That little nigga that stole my jewelry,
I was mad as hell.
See what I'm saying, it was never no intruders
walking in the box.
Intruders is crazy.
Shout out to foster kids.
We've had niggas down at the door.
I know, nigga. See, she's family. Shout out to foster kids. We've had niggas down at the door. I know, nigga.
See, she's family, so we just regularly podcast.
That's how we, we just go on 10, just like,
we should get you a guest, you just,
you just part of the family now.
How many siblings you got?
Two.
Okay, so it was like you, oh, this one.
I got a step sister, I'm the baby.
She had a green.
You come from my lineage, man.
Yeah, yeah.
You a spoil growing up.
Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Shout out, man. He was spoiled growing up. Absolutely.
Just like her.
How you know Roy?
That's the nigga that stole my shoes.
Roy probably locked up right now, man.
Roy, if you're doing time, I'll let you know, boy.
Roy, we need you on this platform immediately.
That team household didn't do shit for you, Roy.
I ain't up with this middle-coach team, man.
Nah, he was, my dad held him down.
You know what's crazy?
I know you on the sneaker.
Roy and J.
Listen, we had another way in the gym.
Roy got a kid, a family, he talked to me the other day.
Roy good.
Shout out to Roy.
But Roy was the first person to get the steel tents.
My pops bought him the steel tents and nobody else.
And I said, I said, how the hell he get them shoes?
He said, cause niggas, I had to buy him some. It's part of the program. I said. Oh yeah, how the hell he get them shoes? He said, cause niggas I had to buy him some.
It's part of the program.
I said, cause Pops got that shit.
Yeah.
I'ma hit you some shoes.
I said, nigga, well, spend a little bit on us.
It's 12 of us.
I don't get paid for you being home.
Pretty much.
Speaking of the Jays, what's your favorite pair of Jays?
The Concord 11s.
Oh man.
It's my favorite thing right here.
Concord 11s?
We locked in. You nothing? I told you boy. I love Concord 11s. Ah man. It's my favorite thing right here. Weird. Concord 11s? We locked in!
You nothing?
I told you boy.
I love Concord 11s.
It's Cody's shoes.
They beautiful shoes, but they ain't my favorite Jordan.
What's your favorite?
Sixes, Varsity Six.
Damn, Aqua A, Varsity Red Six, Infrared Six.
Aqua A just came back out, you got them?
I did.
You know they tapped in.
They already done busted out.
Yeah, this is the only eight that I wear though. All the rest of out, you got him? I did. You know they tapped him. Yeah, I already know, bustin' down.
Yeah, this is the only eight that I wear though.
All the rest of them look like La Hacienda's.
I can't wear them.
He's disrespectful to the class.
Nah, we don't do that.
They disrespect classes on this platform.
We just talked about this two days ago.
We're doing better, but they disrespect the class.
I like Jordan 12.
You like 12?
Yeah.
Talk to him.
Taxis was my first pair of Jordan.
I talked to him, Ty!
You hooked in him. Oh, did you? Yeah, I was about to say, yeah. Yeah. Thataxxys was my first pair of Jordans. Oh, you hooked in em.
Oh, did you?
Yeah, I was about to say, yeah.
Yeah.
That's the only thing you could do.
I was like, I don't even remember how old I was,
but I know I was playing at the girls club.
And I begged my dad for them Jordans.
It had the little black laces with the white specs.
Oh, you couldn't tell me nothing.
Fire.
Classic.
Yeah, bro.
I love all the classics, though.
Mm-hmm. Now, the Levin's, the Concord's a classic Levin. I love all the classics though. Mm-hmm.
Now the Levin's, Concord's a classic Levin.
I can't say that's my favorite Levin.
It's still fire though.
They hate me out here because I love the Spice Jams.
I'm the only person, apparently,
I'm a bread. I'm a bread.
And the one that loves that shoe anymore.
The bread.
Spread a little.
The black and red Levin is classic.
Yeah, I picked the breads before the Spice Jams.
Yeah, I'm real with the bread.
But this jacket you got on,
we was talking about before, that shit crazy.
Thank you.
That's how you rocking, that's just light shit.
Just a little black tee.
I know.
Where you got the gas station?
Nah, this tee why I'm one gear.
Oh, I thought you had a gas station.
Tell y'all where to go with them tees.
What's that, your own gear?
Yeah, you got some shit.
We're at the gas station.
I'm the clout.
Okay, just a bag of shows, so we go follow up.
Yeah, we big.
Shameless.
I was hoping you was with Jordan.
If I knew I was coming, I would have brought y'all something.
But you know, we ship.
Don't you worry, this episode is live.
We will respend this back for sure.
And we will call you out if you never get your gear.
Y'all know I'ma keep it a buck already.
You asked for it, I'm answering.
Listen, y'all hear her first.
If we don't get no shirts, every morning I'ma keep it a buck already. You asked for it, I'm answering. Listen, y'all hear it here first. If we don't get no shirts, every morning I'ma say,
hey Ty, you waiting on that, yo.
Still waiting on that pack, I got you.
For sure, man, we gonna get up out of here one more time
for Boost Mobile, where they at, T?
I'm in A5G nationwide.
Come on, it's happening at Boost Mobile.
You familiar with Boost Mobile?
Where you at?
Hey, you know the volumes, have a trap phone back today,
hold that side button.
One more time for Chyna, for sure,
we appreciate y'all Chyna moment one of our favorite parts of the show at last
But certainly I'll leave shots to the good people Tommy John, you know saying be here
He's in a 360 deal with Tommy John, you know, so it's a pod we tapped in for sure
We appreciate y'all. We'll catch y'all next time club 520
She family so we always gonna be on the show with her. So every time we see her. Oh shit.
Fist up.
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