Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - 2 Chainz Part 2

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with 2 Chainz! In this special on-the-road episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe hits the streets of Atlanta for an exclusive day in the life with none other than hip hop icon, entrepreneur, and proud ATL native — 2 Chainz. From the gym to the garage, and even his award-winning restaurant, we get an intimate look at the grind and mindset that power the Grammy-winning artist and part-owner of the Atlanta Hawks' G-League team. Known for his distinctive style, sharp business acumen, and undeniable influence in pop culture, 2 Chainz proves he’s more than just a rapper — he’s a unifying force, a father, a husband, and a man of the people. Tune in as 2 Chainz breaks down his intense workouts, explaining the difference between habit and hard work and how he stays sharp physically and mentally. Then, get a tour of his prized classic cars, including a ’72 Chevelle, a custom alligator-interior ride, and a sentimental Chevy truck reimagined for his late father, each with its own story — from horsepower to photo ops with Lil Wayne and plans for Barrett-Jackson. Dive deep into the studio grind with 2 Chainz’s creative process, where convenience rules and freestyling captures the moment’s energy. He shares stories about his early connections with Ludacris, Lil Wayne, and how they shaped his artistry and business sense. From turning down a private jet invitation with Jermaine Dupri due to loyalty, to gifting Wayne red Gucci boots, his journey reveals lessons in trust, integrity, and hustle. 2 Chainz also talks candidly about business advice for artists, emphasizing passion over trendy passive income. He calls himself a “property hoarder,” revealing savvy real estate strategies that balance impulsive purchases with smart investments. His philosophy extends to forgiveness after a theft at his nail salon and how social media changes transparency.  He recalls his time being loosely affiliated with Kanye West’s G.O.O.D. Music and how Baby (from Cash Money) inspired him to start charging for features. Despite that, he maintains a strong work ethic, often turning around feature requests in a single day to demonstrate professionalism. Hear 2 Chainz reflect on his youth in College Park, his rough encounters with the law, and how basketball saved him through tough times, even as he faced setbacks in college sports. His stories of loyalty, family, and love are deeply personal—from proposing to his wife on a big stage to balancing fame with fatherhood. They discuss his work with Eminem, Drake, and the competitive studio environment where legends push each other to greatness. 2 Chainz shares insights on ghostwriting, sampling, and the importance of hearing the full song before clearing samples. Get an insider look at his establishments, a glimpse into his life as a husband and father who values humor, support, and real connection.  The episode ends with reflections on Atlanta’s music scene, strip club culture as a music incubator, filmmaking ambitions, and lasting friendships with Atlanta legends. This episode is a masterclass in authenticity, hustle, and legacy —from the mind of one of hip hop’s most respected voices. #volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. I'm from a pre-DM era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, you had to walk upM era. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had to walk up on them. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Have something to say, have something to say. Instead of like, just send like an emoji to communicate.

It's a little different. But I saw her and we just hit it off. Were you nervous? No, I've never been nervous when it comes to females at all. Yeah. No, no, no, I'm You know, I'm one of them Pretty charming. Yeah, pretty charming fella, you know Cuz I know what I ran to the table too. So yeah, it wasn't it was just about me knowing that this was the one More than anything, you know, which I believe.

I think I read a stat where it says like, I think maybe 80% of the men have never asked a woman out on a date personally. So like you walk up to that individual like, hey, how you doing such and such, my name is this, what's your name? I would like to take you out. No, I think that's too scripted, right? Anything about let's go on a date,

it doesn't normally happen like that. You meet somebody, you hang out, you know, I just don't- How you gonna like that, Chay? Right now, a date with me and Margaret, we might be at the studio, it's just anything. Oh, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying, like a date. You don't like the script, then okay,

we going out to eat, we going out to do the eat. We going on a date. Yeah, like, that don't even sound right. That sounds like a real script to me. You know, I think the normal way is you end up at Candyland, you know what I'm saying, having a drink or two or whatever, and you know, you might don't want to say it was a date, but that's exactly what that was, you know, so yeah. That's what I like to.

Before you would I mean would you would you uh have into the adult entertainment industry would you come in here with other thing a normal thing that you would do? I came here before I owned it yeah I'm like being from Atlanta the strip clubs is one known to break music and two known to have like popular people absolutely congregating yeah so I've been coming to strip clubs. I'm like maybe like 15 to 16. It was a strip club on on Cleveland Avenue called pleases and they used to do and we might need to do it here They used to have free popcorn like me and that little smell. Yeah, I'd be hungry. I go in there man I eat, you know, three four things. Hey, you know, I thought you'd go say that one on pause

I thought I mean, oh, I thought you go say Clermont No, I can't believe that that that club that he's talking about actually have you know women upwards of 50 60 years old 70 years old show. Yeah, I want to see I want to say I'm not co-signing that The first show. Yeah, I want to see, I'm not co-signing that. Because once I heard that that what was going on. You got to go one time to see it for yourself. Because you don't believe it. I do believe it.

You got to see it. And I don't have to see it. You got to see it. I do believe it. You got to see it. I've heard it from too many different people. You got to see it. But man, to know that women, and I ain't judging.

Yeah. It's men in there watching. Yeah. And women. But there's 70-year-old women in and I ain't judging. Yeah. It's men in there watching. Yeah. And women. But there's 70-year-old women in there. Four teeth, no teeth. Hey, man. Say they ain't wave.

Like you see it on National Geographic, the women on Africa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Atlanta, that's the culture. Yeah, man. I think Magic opened his spot in the 80s. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. I think Magic opened his spot in the 80s. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you, I mean, so you're like, OK, I'm going to get this. She's like, OK, baby, I can see that. Yeah, OK. This whole spot has been refurbished, you know what I'm saying?

So the seating, everything. So that whole process, they came in. Now, my mom, I was just going to my mom, if she could, she would come in here. But I was like, mom, just don't do me me like that you know what I'm saying. Right. She goes to all my spots, Esco and all that. She'll be with my aunts hanging out so she my mom would come up here and eat but she won't hang out. Right. You know what I'm saying but you know my wife and everybody else will and it was just a whole process from beginning to end that they were definitely a part of it. No one was in

the blind with this. What do you think the top three cities for adult entertainment is? Atlanta, Houston, and Miami. Can't go wrong. No, Atlanta, Houston, and Miami, for sure. Yeah, Houston, the May that come up. Yeah, yeah. Whew, well, yeah, that's it right there, them the cities.

Yeah. With the video where you, I think it was a video where the cities. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With the video with you, I think it was a video with you and you shot it with Kiki in the strip club. Kiki Palmer? Uh-uh. Kiki ain't been in here. Kiki hadn't been in here.

I don't know where Kiki at. Kiki hadn't been at. It wasn't in here, but where was, do you remember where it was? Uh-uh. It wasn't in here, but where was what do you remember where it was? No, but Kiki Makes you a burgo like me. So we've been we big we cool but I hadn't seen in a minute like I know this last movie was hard with a Sizzle yeah. Yeah, but we I've had too many in it. It's an entertaining here every weekend

Yeah, it's entertaining her football player like I ain't that but like it had too many in it. It's an entertaining here every weekend. Yeah, it's entertaining her football player like I ain't but like it's an entertaining here. It's Yeah, if you're part of the coach you've been yeah, I want to know cuz I know Madge or Been knowing Madge 30 years. Do you like when when when the dancers want to come in they come in audition You audition? I've been here for auditions before, for sure. So what's the idea? What are you looking for? Is there a particular height?

Is there a particular shape? Is there a particular personality? Is there a particular, I mean? It's hard to tell personalities during audition because you're not really talking to them. You get them on stage and it's two songs, one with clothes on, one with clothes off. Right.

And you see if they can dance first because this is an entertainment facility. If they can't dance, then that kind of ends it right there. If they can dance, then you start looking at other things. And then it's not really about, because people like natural bodies, people like BBLs, people like white, people like black, people like different things.

So it's up to me to try to have a little bit of everything. So when I'm in here trying to get girls, I'm trying to feel a voice for something that we may not have at the time. Or if we got too many looking this way, I'm trying to bring in something like that. So I'm just trying to have options for people who come in. What is it about the strip clubs and the music?

Because you get some of the best music in the daughter. It's the energy. It's about dancing. So originally, girls would come on stage to do their set. And they would tell the DJ what they wanted to dance to. And so the reason they're telling the DJ to play this is because it's making people spend money, right? And so it had a direct connection with everything

that's going on. So that's why records really, when they do good in Atlanta Strip Club, they do good all over because it's like a weird science to it. It is. To where people tip or do something to the song, you know, and it doesn't even have to have that kind of connotation

in the music, but if it's the tempo is right and it has that vibe to it and people can throw money or dance to it, once it incubates in the strip club, it can just live anywhere. Where you are, obviously you're around, but did you ever bump into Big Meach when they were in Atlanta? Yeah were obviously you're around. But did you ever bump into Big Meach when he when they were in Atlanta? Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

That was that was that was the time. It was it was a time that could never be duplicated, man, because I've never seen that many. You know, brothers get along and have they in and everybody had. Yeah, and Sean, I can actually say I saw that with my eyes and you know the prices on the streets was different and everything you know and I was in my I was selling weed at the time so it was like I wasn't even in the same game that they was dealing in so I just wanted to I just wanted to get, I remember just really wanting to like have access to me to just

like sell my weed to them. I would have to sell it to a few other members around before I could even just get to them. But yeah, I mean, it was, it was a time in Atlanta that I don't think could be, you know, duplicated man, too much money flying around, too many zero cares given, you know, so. I tell you what, something else that won't ever be duplicated Freak-neck No, I'm freaking it won't be duplicated either. I'm in my being I remember those days too. I saw from 92 to 96 I saw girls

Before the word tricking was out. They would do it. They would work away back with that that was I mean out That is what they called it, but they was doing that back in here. Wearing no clothes, guys doing the most. Too much. Dudes doing too much. Dudes doing too much. In the traffic, you think, it was like freak, when they came here for that Thursday night,

Friday night, Saturday night, what you see in Atlanta traffic, it was like that way back when. I mean, it was worse. Because you remember at a certain point in time, they even blocked the intersect, they blocked the exits. So once you got on 85, 75, you had to go down to the Clayton County to turn around.

Yeah, wow, you remember, that's crazy. I was on feet. You look up, you've been on a walk eight miles. You know these people, they're parking their car and getting on you just mean people you interact Then you dance somebody got this big-ass camcorder Yes, and you just don't even know what footage you you shot with your sub like you people would literally it was a gridlock So 85 was like a parking lot you people literally stopped and they were dancing on the street and just like and I was I remember Thank you to myself. I say chain I don't know how much longer they gonna let this go on because this thing getting out of control

Yeah, it's skin when it starts skin young when it starts getting black folks is over And they remember they shut down the mall They started shutting down the malls at three o'clock in the afternoon, but when they started getting making black folks Jane you want to I mean you've done a little acting you want to be just Is that something you would like to take on, take on a more responsibility, do a little bit more of? I wouldn't mind doing acting, but I'm actually interested in being behind the camera. Okay, so okay. Yeah, I shot my first short film called Red Clash.

I shot it last summer roughly based upon my life and it will be in a few festivals. You mentioned it's a short film, it's only 20 minutes. But it's really well put together. And so I'm excited about getting that off my chest and everything that comes with that. And I'm also excited about producing what's after that, which will be aligned and tied to that. So that's where I'm with it. I'm really in it. And up to now, I kind of have kept it a little, you know, to myself, kind of a

secret a little bit. But right now, I think it's time for people to really know I really got something special coming out. And I'm just as attracted to this feeling of doing something good as I was back in the days with my mixtape, my music. I just feel like I got something special to bring to the tape. I meant to ask you this earlier. You got 50 to narrate your album with Lil Wayne. How would you able to pull that off? You knew you had a relationship with 50?

Yeah, yeah, I just called him. He either called him or I saw him. Because I was in BMF, before I was in BMF, I was invited to a dinner where I met a lot of the producers and writers and stuff. And then obviously he put me in the BMF thing. Yeah, and so, you know, the worst thing somebody could tell you is no, you know, I figured you out a long time ago. If you don't actually want to know, so I'm like,

bro, yeah, I got this, you know, I got this, I want you to narrate because he, to me, when I was describing, when I was describing the album, it felt so cinematic. And I felt like I wanted somebody to narrate the project, but I wanted to be somebody that never said their name, but you just know who it is. Right. You know what I'm saying? Just they just voice it. You hear that voice and you know who it is.

Yeah. So you know you got your, you got Snoop. There's a few of them. Snoop, Fifth, Samuel L. Jackson. Like a Morgan Freeman. You hear Morgan? Yeah. They don't have to say, hey, this it's like they don't have to say hey, this is more You don't have to say their name. So I Don't know if it's just got this so I actually wrote everything

He said man, and he just killed it and send it back and Yeah Your last name is Epps. You were telling me that he Omar which is a cousin of yours helped you write Your your 20 your your short your short film. Mm-hmm. You related to Mike Mike I want to say Mike is a eps to marriage if I'm not mistaken. Okay But most EPS are related Let's just say that yeah, I'm trying to figure out why do so many rappers come from the South Side The future gonna little baby outcasts. Jeezy Gucci man walk a flock. They're not come from the South Side the future gonna little baby outcasts

Jeezy Gucci man walk a flock What are you from? Yeah, like like Gucci from zone six future like Kurt Well, see you talk about see you talk about zone six you talk about that was a first 48 South Side would be like College Park or Clayton County and so your South Side artists will be Jermaine Dupree, okay Lado, right? walk a flock of me You can somewhat say

Outcast because they were from East Point, right? That's the South Side Basically everybody else is from either the West side of Atlanta or east side of Atlanta. I mean, did you know any of these artists when you were coming up? I've known Gucci a very long time. I've known Gucci a very very long time. That's who I can add to all those people. You went to North Clayton? Monica a Sierra graduate?

Yeah, Monica. I went to school. We went to school during the same time. I'm not sure if Cece went there or not. Maybe she went there for a year or two or to Riverdale. She went to one of those schools, but I met Monica in high school. I haven't known her for that long. Titty boy, how do you get that name?

Titty boy is a homegrown name that I got from basically just being the only child, a spoiled brat, somebody that's very close to their mom. I remember my mom had a great relationship even to this day. We talked every single day. She hangs out with me. I hang, we go to the game together. We, you know, so people used to be like,

ain't nothing but a titty boy, he be hanging, you know. Make me a mom. People used to be like, ain't nothing but a titty boy, he be hanging, you know. Right. Make you mom. You know, that's where your, like, safety zone, the comfort zone for me was at early on. That's a boy's first true love.

Yeah, and so, and my mom, she like that too. She's kind of like, I love you, mom. She borderline bully. So, ain't nobody gonna mess with me or her. You know what I mean? So I'm just like, used to just being a bummer and stuff. How was it being raised by a single mother? It's actually, it's like, it's cool.

I don't think I would change it. I don't know how, I don't think I would change it because now I had to be the man of the house Great So I replaced now It's definitely some obstacles mm-hmm, but it forces you to grow up faster mature faster, you know Playtime be over real quick when you when you'd only Only million. Yeah playtime is over real quick when you when you the only only male yeah playtime is over real quick like did

is there a part of you that resent that that you didn't really get to have a full childhood because like you said you're the only man in the house and so you're expected to grow up a lot sooner than say had your dad been in the house so there's another dominant male figure in the picture? No, it's no. When I was seven, I remember this very vividly, my older cousin, he threw away the toys I had. Like threw away my toys. I was playing with like a Hulk Hogan wrestling. Charlie, we not playing with no toys, you know what I'm saying? Throw them away. And I remember being crushed, like being hurt, because I'm the only child. I'd be sitting up here having a whole... You had a whole conversation.

You got a whole story going on. I got a whole... This is a... Man, I'm in the middle of a WW... This is a whole cage match. Yeah, you got a whole match going on. I don't even know what... And so, but when I look back, I appreciate the moments

because I couldn't, I couldn't think like a kid or even, you know, I can act like a kid, but my mental, the way that I think mature way faster than my actual physical strength and all of that. I was mentally strong way before I was physically strong. Right. But that was due to me having to do that. Right.

And so they always say, what don't kill you make you stronger. In this case right here, They always say, what don't kill you make you stronger. In this case right here, I appreciate it. I wasn't, I can't sit here and give you a story of me being close to dying, that I know of, you know what I'm saying? But I can tell you how much I just live, you know what I'm saying? And I've lived being consciously a little bit more mature than say somebody else that can just go around and play at like nothing is going on.

Like I had to wave back, learn how to do money orders or fill out certain things and know how to ask for menthol, Newport, whatever menthols and all this old stuff that I ain't got no been, they don't even sell these stuff to kids. You know what I'm saying? But I'm going to the store, I got to get all this stuff. Stockings, you remember when we used to wear stockings?

I gotta go in the store and buy stockings. I gotta cross. You got me the stocking cap we had we done cut my girl by a penny hole. Yeah, I went up to my place, you know, it's like what it is. I don't have to walk across Kella Road. This thing is busy just to go to a store.

That's with cigarettes and stockings for her and all this old stuff. So, you know, I can't imagine like, why was he even doing this type of stuff at 11 or 12 years old, you know? You got arrested, I think at 15, got arrested again at 17. Did you feel an obligation because like you said,

you're the male figure, you're only a child, and you wanted to do something to help your mom because you saw what your mom was going through. Nobody knows what a person going through except somebody that's really close to that person. And you saw your mom struggle. You saw your mom going through that. Is that why you kind of got into that life?

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Listen to Ali and Me, now on Audible. So, if I, if I lived in Hawaii, if I was born in Hawaii, I think I would know how to surf, right? Because I adapt. If I was raised in Colorado or whatever, I would be good at skiing, right? Because I adapt. If I was raised in Colorado or whatever, I would be good at skiing, right? But my family, my mom lived in these low social economic spaces and they were traps. So I live in these traps. It's not like traps are really places people come there to buy drugs and leave. But it's like the zoo, they come to the zoo and leave.

But I'm staying at the zoo all day. I'm here forever. I'm like, and so I'm from the trap. So everybody around me does the same thing. It's kind of like neighborhoods and gangs and stuff like that. Like some people are just, it's really because they mom live here.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? My mom lives here. You know, it's really because they mom live here. You know what I'm saying? My mom lives here. You know, it's always this special kid or somebody we don't want to expose to this lifestyle or whatever. But I wasn't that kid. And actually the 15 year old,

when I go to get in trouble, when I'm 15, my mom knows I sell drugs. You know what I'm saying? My mom knows this. It's not even a secret. My mom used I sell drugs. My mom knows this. It's not even a secret. My mom used to do drugs. So it wasn't like a huge secret. It was just this time my father was already incarcerated.

And my mom just had, I don't even know if this was her boyfriend or just somebody who sold dope, but they came in our house after being chased by the police to try to come in the house and flush it. Just kind of like made their way in our house. And I was asleep. I remember being on my little air mattress sleep. But what I used to do before I go to sleep was eat like Oreos and milk. It was like a routine Oreos and milk. It was like a routine, a little milk.

And and that night I had like, I don't know, 10 crack sacks or whatever. And I put the crack sacks in this napkin. I borrowed a napkin up and I put it in the red little cup that my milk was in. I sat it by my air mattress because honestly, at an early age, I had to be creative with where I put stuff because people were stealing from me while I was asleep. Steal money out of my pocket. I would put pants under my pillow

and money still would be missing. So I would start having creative ways on just hiding stuff around. The police come in and eventually, I'm kind of handcuffed in the hallway and eventually I kind of see somebody kick that cup over. And when they kick that cup over, I see the sacks come out. Now, the sacks, all this happens in my room.

So they take my mom to jail with this dude. They let me call somebody like a cousin to come get me. I leave, and when I come back, some people in the neighborhood, because the house has been busted, people had ran in the neighborhood and just start going through my stuff. Yeah, going through my apartment. And the door off the hinge, so my friend lets me move, like live with him for a while. He stayed in the apartments as well. And so while I'm living with him, I'm going to school.

He don't go to school as much as me, but I'm going as often as I can, I'm going. And I think that they tried to serve me a warrant for that stuff, that cocaine being mine, and I was nowhere around to be, so they had to come to my school and get me. So that's how that particular incident happened. But my mom was fully aware of what I had going on.

Did she ever say, hey, son, stop that. You going, did your mom ever try to? No, no, no, no. It's deeper than, it's so deep, it's crazy. They say association bring on assimilation. Yeah. It's deep. So they take you to juvie right

How long you in juvie like a week and a half but I didn't know like Yeah, you know I'm like playing basketball So I got people coming up there that I guess is Clayton council, people know people. So I guess people are in areas where they can see me and I can't see them. People are checking up on me. But like the first two or three days,

I was super to myself, didn't want to even really shower. But then I got sprayed with whatever they spray you with. So I had to like take the initial shower. But like after that- Yeah, they got to spray you down, make sure you got no bugs, no lysis, no any- Yeah, so after they sprayed me- Infestation.

After they sprayed me, they was really like, Shawty, they was telling me, Shawty, you're gonna have to take a, you know, you're gonna have to get that stuff off you. So after I did that, the next couple of times, I just kind of stayed in my room and then they played basketball. So I said, oh man, I said, you know,

I got, everybody got on the same shoes, whatever. So that's what got me through that little extra little week or whatever, was basketball. And then I don't know how they figured it out. Somebody caught a point and somebody looked out for me and I remember my name being called and oh is this the first time? Yeah because one of these times, one of these times, alright so either that time I got called and they released me but maybe the next time I got locked up, which was in high school again, they called my name.

I remember just talking so much shit to my cellies and everybody else or whatever, and I gave them my store. Then when I walked out, they put me in maximum, and that's where people do real stuff. I said, God has punished me in maximum. And that's where like real people do real stuff. Yeah. And I said, God has punished me from breaking. I said, I don't supposed to be in here. They said, man, put on this red suit. I had on an orange suit.

They told me to put on this red suit. And I done just damn near not a boob. I done damn near did everything leaving out this cell. And for some reason, I don't know what happened paperwork wise, but they got me in here next to somebody who done swallowed a razor blade and tried to go to the hospital and escape. This person is a serial rapist.

The cell is maximum. It has the electric doors when they close open, but it's too many people in there, so you got people sleeping outside of it. And it was just like that experience was even kind of a little bit more nerve-racking than when I went to juvie or whatever, just because of the maximum,

I could still hear the maximum doors. And then it's just a bunch of, they're not telling stories or whatever, but that was like my, you know, I've been, when I became a rapper, I got in way more trouble than I got in back then, it felt like I was targeted. But back then it was almost like the situations I went through.

I wouldn't even be right here now next to you if I didn't go through them. But when I was currently in that position, I thought my world was gonna end. I thought my world was gonna do the thing. It was the most, I was the most ashamed. I was so ashamed. When I got well to my 12th grade,

yeah, I had scholarships to many different schools to play basketball. And actually, Mr. SAT just, my mama told me don't even take all this weed to school. You know what I'm saying? And it's not even a lot of weed at this time. It's like some Knicks. It's a hundred dollar worth of Knicks or something crazy. So it's not even a lot of weed.

But I get caught with it. And that puts a blend of issues. I lose scholarships, I lose people. So it make you feel like your life gonna end, but then I end up going to somewhere else where I meet these different people and the love of my life and some other things, and it just worked out differently.

So I tell anybody, which I have told some of my like little play nephews that have grown up that's got into some trouble right now, I tell them just to live long enough. Man, anything can help you live long enough. Stay out of prison, stay out the graveyard, man. Man, these stuff can turn around and this just can be a part of your story now

because I tell you- Now the end of your story. Yeah, I can just tell it so freely now. Like, boy, it might sound cool. I'm not trying to make it sound, it's not cool at all. But I actually experienced it. I had to tell my kids this, like, you know, I went to Juvent 15, why you doing all this?

I really like, so just to express that, I just feel like sometimes we go through stuff and it really do make us a better person because now I'm not interested in none of that type of lifestyle. You know, in the hood, getting shot, shooting somebody, going to jail, any of that is a part of puberty. It's like part of adolescence.

You fully don't even develop or grow up unless something like that has happened. Like, man, you ain't been shot. You ain't shot nobody. You ain't never even been to jail. It's like one of those things. It's like, I don't know if you really been through this. So that part. Even through all that, you get an opportunity,

you get a scholarship. You start off going to ASU, Alabama State. Right. What happened at Alabama State? Alabama State was tricky. So they called me, man, super vulnerable, but I'm happy they did, man. They called me after they heard, but I'm happy they did man. They called me

After they heard this is pre social media, so The schools that's recruiting me don't know I got locked up in school. Hmm so I'm literally damn near like Like somebody Acts me in a letter because I'm getting these letters every week, you know, after practice when you're good, the coach, I'm sure you, it's two, three players that get like these letters

from people that's interested in them, you know what I'm saying? It's me and my own, we're getting these letters. And I mean, I wish I had these letters now, but one of the letters was asking me how you think you did on the SAT? And I started being like, damn, this crazy. I'm a little ashamed. I done got caught with weed at school.

And the Alabama State, they call. I talked to them on the phone. They say, we heard what happened. You know, man, we're looking for a big guard. You know, we two hours from Atlanta, it was already some people from my school that was down there. So it made my transition a little easier.

And when I go down, when I go down there to play, they get fired. The coaches that was showing me so much interest, just telling me everything, what they was gonna promise me, you know, a little weight program to put a little, little, little something on me. They get fired before anything, before I even ever, I never even ran a practice with these guys. Right.

And here comes a coach and his own four players. And I remember, I remember him walking in, it was to my left, I remember him walking in, and four other tall, you know, looked like hoopers. And from that point on, I didn't care about basketball no more. Really? I didn't care about that.

You lost interest just that quick? Because he came in, it's just this whole energy change. When he came in, he already had his mind set on, he wouldn't have brought these players if he weren't going to use them. And so that just, you know, it just took, it just discouraged me for so many reasons, because I've been playing basketball

since I was seven years old. You know what I'm saying? Here I am playing. Here I am. In my mind, I don't even supposed to be at this school. Right. And now you telling me, or whatever whatever showing me I ain't finna play. Oh, man I just did not mess with you know, I mean so Commence to trapping commence to going up and down the road But you leave that go to be SU go to Virginia State. No, I go to TSU. Yes

I mean, I'm sorry Tuskegee. Yes. Yes. Yes, everybody that I want to test key, which is a 30 minutes up the road. Right. So here it is, Atlanta dude in Alabama, right? You can imagine like the ego or the mentality they have. And I was taught a few lessons in Alabama. Like, you know, they ain't nothing to play with. I was taught a few lessons.

So I have a party at a club. And I got on this. This is one parkway in the Silk Versace. Yeah, yeah. They like 450. Yeah. I got me one. I got on some, I'm like, I'm sure Shannon. Yeah.

The club ain't got nothing but Andre Luckle. The, it's called Andre. I bet it's about out of $20. Yeah. But I'm from Atlanta and I, you know, I've been to 112 a couple times and these people they have barters in the club So I'm just I'm gonna represent that line of culture down here, Alabama Man for you know, that's a huge fight that breaks out in the club And when the fight breaks out a young lady gets her eye damaged severely to my And when the fight breaks out, a young lady gets her eye damaged severely. To my...

Problem news site in it. Almost, you know, and everybody just throwing, pointing the finger at me. I'm saying, my party, and he be like, this is Versace shirt, that's all I'm hearing. Versace shirt, me. Versace shirt, me. So I do like anybody who got sins, I'm getting out of here. I ain't sticking around. So I immediately, immediately bro, I just went to a whole nother school. Soon as I started, it probably took two weeks, I go to a whole nother school because I got,

I got a couple homeboys at this other school. It was 30 minutes. They've been coming down here kicking it with me. So I got a homeboy that play on their team and Tuskegee was D2, but they still was good. I remember state was D1, but it was really like still 30 minutes. So I go down to this school and it was very, very interesting

because my degree was something in computer or programming or something like that. So when I go to Tuskegee, I ended up changing my major to psychology because the actual teacher was my grandfather's sister, so my great-aunt. So it was just interesting to meet her and she already knew so much information about me. I figured she was going to let me cheat, which she never did. And I ended up taking that and graduated from that. But I ended up leaving Tuskegee and going back to Alabama State.

Okay. You meet your wife. I think the question that you probably get asked a lot, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that they like change. Bro, how you stay married, how you stay committed when you have all this around you at your fingertips and you go home to the mother of your three? How? All the time.

To the mother you're three how all the time? Hmm I've seen I've seen with it. I've seen with it. I've seen what it looked like No, I'm see I've seen what outside look like. No seeing all perspectives. You know what I'm saying? But it's just something about having that stability and that loyalty. I mean really that real loyalty, that real love. Yeah. You can't really just find it everywhere, especially when you become a certain, when you get to a certain level, you don't know how real a face looks.

Yeah, it's easy. It's easy. Everybody, oh, Chang, ooh, I love Chang. Ooh, he look good. Do you see, wait a minute. It's easy to say that now, but when I wasn't two Chang Yeah, when y'all was calling me by my government name. Yeah, it's I think that's just you know even working in a in a

Owning a strip club even in this space right here. I already knew that You know people were probably just assuming that I was gonna just yeah, you know throw it all away Yeah, you know and I just couldn't wait to prove people, you know wrong I was just assuming that I was gonna just throw it all away. Yeah. And I just couldn't wait to prove people wrong. You know what I'm saying? And girls walk around me naked all the time. Now I don't know if that's done something to my libido, because a girl walking in naked, now she just be naked.

It won't even like, she just be a naked girl. She be naked? You might need to get on them rose barks like your boy. They're rose barks. No, no, no, no. Everything still work real good on me. OK, OK. No, no, let's make it.

No, everything works really good on me. Really, really good. Yeah, you know. Paws. Everything works really good. But that just doesn't interest you. I'm just saying, it's any given day, it's 30 given day,

it's 30 or 40, 50 naked women in here. I ain't walking around with no boner in here by seeing no 40, 50 women. Because I see it so, I just see it every day. Oh. You know what I mean? You on your root, whatever. That roast box.

Yeah, roast box, whatever. You take it now. Harder than the times of 29. You going to be around here looking at the stabbing folks all day. Excuse me. Stabbing folks trying to 29. You gonna be around here looking at the stabbing folks all day? Excuse me. Stabbing folks trying to get to the back. I gotta go to the back.

They calling now. I got control over D-Bone. Yeah, I got control, man. You proposed that to your wife. Did you know you was going to propose? Because you proposed at the Met Gala, correct? Oh, man, I had to, man. That was big.

You know, sometimes you got to do something where they can go back and it's historic. They can go back and yeah. Were you nervous? No. So this is what happened, man. I get invited by Versace because I'm doing a collaboration with Versace and my homie, Salehi.

We go. They let us go to Versace on Fifth Avenue in New York. We get all type of shit, you know what I'm saying? They got custom, they got a lady that them flew over to do Keisha makeup from, oh, it's just everything. So I had already planned, I said, man, this would be dope. Everybody see it, you know what I'm saying? Be play, I be throwing my little player card, whatever.

It just be like, you know. Put it up. Man, listen. We get there, all kind of stuff. Try to prevent me from doing it. Right. Get there, wait up at the line. It's just all type of stuff.

So, man, I'm thinking a couple of times, man. I got it right here in my pocket. I'm thinking. Man, I just keep thinking. I said, man, we're gonna do this, man. I wanna do it on the... So it takes so long to get there at this point. Seems like it's just never gonna happen.

So I get there, we get on, when I finally get there, we get on the steps and Kiesha, she look around. So I go in there and then, well, they won't come out. So I said, what does this mean, go right now. And then, but it won't come out. So I said, what does this mean? You know what I'm saying? Because I don't want her to see me doing this. I want to already have it out.

You know what I'm saying? So I get the pulling, I get the pulling, and it comes on out. And so I get on a knee, and then Keezer turned around, look at me, and said, baby, you all right? She's like, you okay? She's like, I guess fail or something. Because she just didn't expect it. So I think it was cool for it to be a surprise on such a huge stage.

Right. But you had proposed before at the BET, it wasn't 2013, right? No, we just went out then and people thought it was like that. Like me and Keisha, we look good together and stuff and pictures. And every time we just went out and people thought it was like that like me and Keisha we looked good together and stuck in pictures and Every time we would step out and then she was something like that I was calling my wife before we even had right, you know before we well You know you had to be there cuz you make that presentation the chorus say, okay, that what you been saying? Okay. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I've been saying you know how you oh, yeah, that's why you know

You're what you know how you just say that like this you just I mean, you know and for a long time I felt like she deserved a wedding. She deserved the right she deserved all that But for the most part I was treating her like a wife great It's a you have star-studded wedding Kim and Kanye little Wang Alicia Keys Switz beat Gucci Mayne Monica attendance at the Versace wedding at the Versace Mansion in Miami. Is that what you had? Yeah, I'm trying to think Monica came Man my mind It was a blur. You don't remember you just so focused on making the thing. I'm perfect I don't think Alicia can or Swiss came everybody else came all those other names came but it was nice man

I had a the thing about that wedding, it wasn't so much the celebrities that came out, it was the people that I was able to show something, like my uncle, who I was telling you about, who had all the necklaces that's no longer here, he was there, Keisha Grandmama was there, like it was people that hadn't been to Miami Beach, hadn't been to Versace.

I got the mansion in the hotel next to it. I rent the whole hotel for everybody. Yeah, so it's just a situation that we this close, you know what I'm saying? And it's unlimited food and liquor. So I like to show people a good time. Like in this space, I don't know about you, but I like to show people like, you know, I love like- I like to show them a good time.

Yeah, I like to show them a good time. They'll bring their ass back. I'm gonna show them a bad time. Nah, I show people a good time and it I like to show them a good time. Yeah, I like to show them a good time. They'll bring their ass back. I'm gonna show them a bad time. Nah, I show people a good time and it just be like I had a good time. It might be a one-off thing. Like, man, you know, I had to put my mom on the jet. You know what I'm jumping on?

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Listen to Ali and me now on audible. The kids aspect. You mentioned that you were the only child raised by a single parent. It almost seems like you did the total opposite. Like you wanted to be, you felt you needed to be around for your kids That what you went through your kids would never experience what you went through. Absolutely I had to I had to sell drugs I actually started selling drugs at 12, but they were just nicks, but it was for my mom and her boyfriend, right?

and You know, it was almost like they gave me a little something to keep, you know, like, it was $40, $50, but I never have to even go through that with, with, hey, Lord, heaven or harm. Like, I don't have to tell them that. Now, granted, when I'm trying to teach them a lesson, sometimes I may have a flashback and tell them, yo, I love you. Right.

Like, this is the reason, like, you know what I'm saying? I didn't have this. This wasn't around. I had to learn the hard way or whatever but yeah me me growing up with one not in the household necessarily not my father anyway it made me want to like be around and also like you know I got the money so but I just got to try to like offer certain experiences too like they can remember like certain trips or certain, I don't know, games or whatever I do.

I mean, you know, you'll never get it 100% right, but I'm trying. Damon Wayans told me the best thing his dad did was come home. How do you balance change? Because you not having to do what you did, but, and it got you here to make sure you're like, okay, I want to give my kids enough, but not give them too much because you know,

tough times create tough men, tough men create easy times, easy times create weak kids, We kids create hard times. You see the cycle? What's the cycle? How does change, who didn't have a lot, but you know your mother loved you, how do you impart, instill and partake the wisdom, partake the wisdom that you learn to make sure your kids appreciate what you're doing,

but not take it for granted? That's a good one. I might have to ask AI that. Because you know what what do we always say James? I don't want my kids to go through none of what I went through but think about what it made you. I don't man listen man I literally and this is an inside joke with me and my wife, I literally got a song that I play in my head to take cold showers. And it's like a joke. Like if like we go swimming in the water

and just, it should be like, it's ambitious of a rider by two-park. I played it in my head, but I get in the shower, just take a cold. Man, I've been wired to do something, because I ain't have no hot water, or we had to turn the water off from six to six, and then take the same little T thing and turn it back on,

or even stealing lights. Stuff that they would never know about, like it just wouldn't even happen, you know what I'm saying? But like even stealing, or borrowing lights, not even stealing them, going to your neighbor, getting an lights, not even still, I'm going to your neighbor, getting an extension cord from their house all the way to your house, and you see this big old cord going through your big old orange,

two, three orange cords connected, going to your house like, man, it's just unbelievable that I, you know, it's just good to be on the other side of that. You know what I'm saying? You blew up at 35. What do you tell people that feel like it's too late for them? This is good to be on the other side of that. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You blew up at 35. What do you tell people that feel like it's too late for them?

Because a lot of times people don't feel like they make it by 21, 22, like, oh, it's over for me. But here you are, have success later. I mean, it's not like you're 50. But I'm saying a lot of people have success a little early, especially in this game. But you had success at 35. What do you tell people that says, man, and just not in music, but in anything,

because a lot of times people don't feel like they're successful early on, there's no chance for them to be successful later. It may be too late for them, if that's what they believe. Okay, that's their thought process, okay. If that's what they believe. Right. Yeah, but if you're confident like me, you might put out a number one record anytime. I'm trying to be upwards of a hundred million for us all over.

I'm nowhere near content. With my space, nothing I'm doing. So it's about the person. And I also feel that you know, you know, the person knows. Like, let me ask you this. Did you know you was going to the NFL? Yeah every time I asked somebody that's They and it's crazy that

It's like ma you didn't know it's kind of but did you it's something about yeah I didn't have a plan. I didn't have no plan B. I didn't have no plan C. That was it everything I had a total vision I didn't see anything but see myself in the NFL and getting my grandmother out of that thousand square foot Send a block home. That was just I'm telling you man. So people in positions like us if It's like I would like to tell somebody that that's like man, I like having that little wonder you will know Yeah, you you can't trick yourself, you'll know. Yep. Now for me, I didn't know when,

but I just knew, bro. I could just change the climate of the room. I knew my personality. I knew I wasn't no lame. I knew I'm from Atlanta. I knew how to dress. I knew I was popping. I knew I really hustled.

I knew I really hooked. I knew I really just was well known. So I just, it just was just, I was just waiting on the dots To connect right let me ask you there basketball When you growing up obviously frame What are some of the players that you like that you like they are really like his game

I'm gonna model my game after that My game, I'm a tall guard. Well, not even anymore. Like, I'm probably a short, I'm 6'5". Right. So right now, according to the league, I might be a short guard right now, but when I was playing, I was labeled as a tall guard. So I would watch more tall guard stuff, whether it was somebody like a... Penny? Penny was my number one player. I got recruited by Memphis.

OK. So that was one of the places I thought I was going to play to live out his footsteps or that type of stuff. Penny was my number one player. I like everything about Penny. There been some great rappers that hoop. So I'm gonna let, okay you got Cole, Drake, P, Master P, Damon Gillard, who is Gillard the Kid,

Chris Brown, Quavo, Lil Durk, Game, Nelly. I think they can play to Dave East can hope French Montana. Yeah That's a lot of people that can hope man I I like that because I kind of can tell you your child You know I'm saying how about how you shoot I can kind of tell you childhood and I like I like I like that I like that people was outside playing ball, you know what I'm saying? We was growing up or whatever. So yeah, man.

I'm trying to figure out how you and Lil Baby lost to Quavo and Jack Harlow. Quavo and Jack Harlow. I know how we lost to them. Lil Baby. Nah, it just, it wasn't a day. That wasn't a day right. You're supposed to dominate that game by yourself.

I should have. I should have. I should have, but maybe next time. Give me your top five basketball players of all time. Change top five. That don't have to be the best, but who are your top five? Jordan Colby, LeBron. I throw Shack in now. Mm-hmm.

And if I want to win all the games, I'm going to have to put a step in now. Nice little list. That's a nice little list. You got a few, you didn't go too far back. See, I've been living alone now. I can do the whole, I can do arrows. I can do the joint arrow. I can do the Cobra arrow and I can do the LeBron arrow.

You know they always arguing. Right. You know what I mean? So I can really do one from each arrow. Right. But if I just had to combine them, number three would definitely be on the team. And then I'd fill in the blanks.

Who's your goat? Who's your basketball goat? Man, I just, man, I just love that Kobe guy, man. Cause you got a tattoo of Kobe? I don't got no, oh yes, I got the number, 24. You're 24, yeah. How you be knowing every damn thing? Yeah, I do, man, but I think everybody went and got

mamba this, mamba that when he passed away because it was just so out in the blue and I had just saw him, New Year's, I had just saw him bringing in New Year's. I just shot him a DM like Christmas Day, just DMing going back and forth. Yeah, I think Vanessa had just had the fourth girl and I was like, bro, I know you trying, but bro, you just can't get no little, you can't just get a little mama. And he say, hey, these little mama's, see, I got mine.

He was talking about the one that passed away with it. He said, that's my son. Yeah, yeah, she was like that. And so I met Jordan once or twice. He was really nice, he was cool. I met Kobe many a times. He was really nice. He was cool. I met Kobe many a times We had conversations about basketball and it somewhat seemed like he might have respected my IQ and then

LeBron and I are good friends. Yeah, we're great friends. Yeah, because he LeBron was there on your record, right? Yeah, man, man him have hung out my kids has been to his house and All of that my our wives have hung out before all that. So yeah So help me understand this because there's been a lot of conversation Bronte getting drafted bit they make it seem like Bronte with top five He's the 55th pick of the draft. They only got they only got 60 spots It did be so you go to first two rounds. They only got 60 spots in their bench. So you go to the first two rounds,

you only got first two rounds. So he went 55, there were only five players that were 56, 57, 58, 59, 60. So only five players went after him. They make it seem like he top five. There's been a lot of criticism about, oh man, he wouldn't even be in the league if it wasn't for his daddy.

You're forced to fall. What's he supposed to do? I mean, if you're in position to help your kids, isn't that what you should do, Chain? You know that's how it is. You know, I'm going to show you what nepotism looks like when mine get old. Ah! Show you.

You can't get down. Come here, brother. Hey, man. Look out. I'll be back. Right. Dropping them off. Now I figure out, but it's just like,

he did nothing wrong. And then actually you're seeing a whole nother side. When Bronnie been playing in the G League and just the culmination of just what this season done, he just made, he's a different player already. And that's what happens. It's like when kids play up. Right. know, I'm saying kids play up they get better They get better man. You got no you get stronger you do all type of stuff

You don't even know your body can do this type of stuff man. It's interesting That's how it was with me changing my brother's three years older And then my next youngest my next youngest cousin It's five years and he went six, and then it went seven years. So I'm playing against guys three to five to six to seven years older than me. I ain't got no choice but to get better. I didn't get tough.

I didn't get, oh yeah. Yeah, they knock your ass down, they didn't care. You had to be tough playing against them, cause they, man, this is what I know now from my son playing ball. It's a difference between Seven eight nine and ten yo like body difference or how they move Coordination, you know footwork and everything. So yeah, you mentioned the cyber truck earlier

And people like that. I don't want no cyber truck. Eli must hit the idea. Yeah, you like man. I love my cyber truck Man, I just leave I leave him Friday, man. I get me an order of fries. Yeah. I get in my truck. I put it on autonomous. And I just let it take me home while I eat fries. why I eat fries. And I tell myself,

this ain't drinking and driving. Right. I ain't doing nothing. I'm eating some fries. This is eating fries and that's it in the car. It's gonna hit this blinker. Yeah. It's gonna stop. It's gonna do all that. It's so small. It's like, it's gonna stop. It's gonna- Do all that.

It's so small, it's like, it's like me, it's like whoever run Apple do something there and now they like, you gonna keep that Apple phone? Like get off my line with that. Get off my line with that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm keeping it. Yeah, I'm keeping it, you crazy. Yeah, yeah I'm saying? Yeah, I'm keeping it. Yeah, I'm keeping it. You crazy.

Yeah, yeah, I'm keeping it. I'm driving it. And so, yeah, so with that being said, I ain't here to sell no product because I ain't getting no money. I had to pay for mine. But at the end of the day, it's one of my convenience.

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but the man doing so good, we having a few meetings about taking up another level. Really? And yeah, you just, I'm telling you man, the man can sell, I'm talking about. He got that from his daddy, huh? Wow, that is true, huh? This is the Cologne Halo by Halo.

Try to see what it smell like right there. Cause see, we sell it in the club too. We sell it here in Keniland. Damn. Yeah, the house mom and the dancers and all that got some of this stuff around Christmas. Greg Curie McGill. See, he ain't watching.

He think it's something he, yeah. Yeah, he ain't know. OK. Yeah, see. That's a real, see, I know he thought it was going to be, no, I thought he going to have like some like smell like a little kid. No, no, no, no, no.

The grown-ups around here squirting that on emoji. Yeah. Trying to get youirting that on emoji. Yeah. Yeah. Hit upside my head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, 2 a slice. Got to roll the dice, that's why. All my life, I been grinding all my life.

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