Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Ali Siddiq Part 1

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

This week on Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe chops it up with stand-up comedy powerhouse Ali Siddiq—one of the realest storytellers in the game. Known for his viral YouTube specials and sharp wit, Ali pulls up for a hilarious, raw, and thought-provoking convo that runs deep.Right out of the gate, the two dive into wild stories—from brown liquor blackouts to athlete altercations. Ali breaks down what happened when he got curved by Patrick Ewing for a photo ("That man hurt my feelings!") and clowns on Shaq still owing him $1,000 for sitting through his debut rap album.But it doesn’t stop there —Ali gets into it with hot takes about hip-hop. He keeps it 100 about why he doesn’t rock with Drake, calling out what he sees as culture jacking from Houston and saying he could give Drake AND J. Cole buckets on the court. (Yes, he said that.) He also shares a moment of nostalgia and love for the Geto Boys’ "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" and recounts the time he crossed paths with 2Pac way before the fame, back when Pac was rolling with Digital Underground at a rap convention. Ali holds nothing back, speaking on his decision to build his career in Houston rather than follow the Hollywood blueprint. He gets personal about his childhood, life behind bars, and how pain, loss, and survival built the foundation for his comedy. His grandmother’s influence, boxing as a metaphor for life, and staying rooted in community all shine through. Things get tense when Ali touches on a past misunderstanding with Katt Williams. After being unexpectedly blocked from re-entering a venue during one of Katt’s shows, Ali unpacks what that moment meant—and expands the convo to talk about joke stealing and respect in the comedy world. He doesn’t name-drop to stir drama but stands on integrity while still saluting Katt’s talent. And yes, Ali’s got something for the fans. He’s dropping two new specials: "My Two Songs" on May 16 and "Rugged" on Father’s Day. This episode is full of laughs, real talk, and major gems from one of the sharpest voices in comedy today. Tap in —you don’t wanna miss it.#volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's why all my life I been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Cheche. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Cheche. Today we are at Jalisco Underground at Resorts World, Las Vegas. Stopping by for conversation and a drink today is one of the internet's most popular comedian.

He has one of the most watched comedy special ever on YouTube. He was once named Comedy Central's number one comic to watch the new york times called him the comedy's best storyteller a highly acclaimed veteran of stand-up Polific writer successful entrepreneur a confident artist a comedic genius a great orator Commentator producer host author public speaker that tours nationwide coming all the way from age time Let's give it up for comics comic. That's the only city. How you doing my brother?

Please stop it. Hey, how was that? That was great. That was great. You put a lot in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We like to make sure we give our guests when they come. They take time out of their busy schedule to grace us with their presence.

We want to make sure we give them what they've earned, not what you deserve, but what you've earned. And everything that I read off this card, you've earned it, bro. So salute. I know you got off that brown a little while ago, so we gonna talk. Yeah, I can man, that brown is different, man.

That brown is different. You see, I thought it was the gin, cause see when I was growing up, people tried to, people, they got anger when they was on that Seagram, that Tangeray, then they turned into that Bombay, that Beefeaters, that Gordons, but now it's the Brown? Man, it's that Hennessy. All that Brown is difficult.

You know what I'm saying? Look at you. I'm telling you, that Brown is different, man. It's different. It's different. It gives you a little extra. It gives you extra boost. You like just want to fight her.

Hey, I don't, was you on that brown when you was with the Memphis Grizzlies? No, no, I went on that brown and it went down. Hey, bro. And it was going to be lying to you. Let me tell you something. I don't know, you had on an oversized sweater. Yeah, yeah.

And your back muscles were still showing on the TV. I said, man, this is what they don't want. I mean, I went dark. Man, you ever been in a situation where you go dark? Like, I don't remember a whole lot. I just remember getting back, the security took me back, and they're like, uh, uh, uh, you okay? You okay?

Um, you okay? And I remember thinking to myself, why y'all keep asking me am I okay? Hey man, it cause when, I don't know you did you go back and watch it? Yeah, I really haven't paid a tear I hadn't watched it. You got you got up and I'm this game is live. Yeah And I don't know what was said to you, but you didn't agree with I forgot You know, sometimes you forget you in public that you say something. You're like, damn, I shouldn't have said that. I've done it several times.

You know, my whole team is here because they know I generally get into it with athletes. Really? Because y'all be tripping. How? Man, you know y'all aggressive. No, no. I done got into it with so many athletes

that I'm getting ready to do a special called Conflict. That's how many athletes I done got into it with so many athletes that I'm getting ready to do a special called Conflict. That's how many athletes I didn't got into it. Just because y'all be, like somebody asked you for a picture. Are you a picture taker? It all depends on what time, what time I got. On what you at. Right, right. And I'm like that as well.

So the thing, I don't like taking pictures when I'm with my kids. Right, okay. If I'm out with my family, man, going on, you see I'm out with my family. Right. And I understand that. But if you in the luggage store and I see you,

man, me and Patrick Ewing, I see Pat, I'm a big fan. I had the Ewing's and everything, the big suit case. With the 33 on the back, I said, excuse me, Mr. Ewing, you think I can get a picture? That man looked at me like I was small, even though I'm small. And I walked out the luggage door. Felt even smaller.

And I couldn't take it. I came right back in. Come on, see, you doing too much, Olly. What? You doing too much. I had to come back in there and let him know how I felt. I had them big shoes. Man, you going to take this with me?

I had that part when you were in Georgetown. Man, I went off on Pat. And he was looking at me like, man, what is wrong with the daddy? Man, because you didn't wanna take no picture. Did he take a picture? No. No, man.

Security put me out. No, you were doing too much. I'm getting escorted out of the Galleria. Bro, how you get escorted out of a luggage store? Messing with Pat. Messing with Pat you be wanting. No, but sometimes fans do do too much. I was at, where was that, JFK last week,

and a dude just walked up to me, put his arm around me, said, let's get this selfie. Oh yeah. He didn't ask, excuse me, Mr. Sharp, can we take a picture together? Or sometimes they just get rude with it. We gonna take this picture. Man. We are?

This Nigerian brother in Adidas store. I'm in the Adidas store. That man hugged me. I said, bro, let me go before I bite you in your face. He said, you just have to bite me. I'm a huge fan. Man, I said, bro, this boy. And I couldn't do nothing, because he was, he was,

I don't even know why my arm was down. I don't even know why they was down. So you say you get on that brown things happen when you were young, and you just, and you say that's all you drank with a double shot of that? Double shots of Henny's. I never had a single shot. I was, I started with doubles. You ain't have it on the rocks?

No, straight. Oh, you drank it warm Hen? Yes. Yeah, you're trying to do something. You're trying to test yourself up. Is the bar, do it come? Is it chill? That's why you gotta get put it on the rock.

You gotta take some of that bite out of it. Okay, if it's on the rocks, what's the difference gonna make? It's a little cooler. No it ain't. It's a little cooler. I'm telling you, no it ain't. I'm telling you it's a little cooler. I've been drinking Hennessy.

I used to drink Hennessy. I'm talking about since I was, I think I started, that was my first. Right. No, St. I's. No, I've drank a lot of things. That Thunderbird with Kool-Aid in it. My first, I think it was- Well, we really had no money back then

cause you drank the Thunderbird. Green bottle. Green bottle. What's the price, a dollar twice? Mad Dog 2020. Yes. And- Man, I'm a wine-nose with Dragon O'Olly. But that, what else?

I didn't know nobody. I didn't know no other drinks. you get that jubilee, okay Julie good and they go live. Yeah, um, then you start drinking I remember they came out with the 64 beers and first I was just drinking a 40 It was and then my partner would drink um afforded input. Um, Jay with JW Weller's and JP well He put that it's a boiler maker. Now we drinking beer and liquor at the same time, so that's what really St. I's was.

Man, I used to be, I used to be toe up. I used to be toe up, and I had to apologize to some people. But you drank it, you, as a man that's small in stature, you drank it like you six eight. Hold on, Shannon, what you mean small in stature? But I'm saying. I'm a big dude. I mean, I'm gonna get mean, I'm gonna be generous.

I'm gonna give you five, six. Five, seven. What? But you driving like you six seven though. I need that extra like five, seven. But I was what? 133? Nah, I wasn't that when I went to prison.

I about 115, 120, yeah. And you out there trying to boss up? Man, I was a, but see that's the thing, when you box, you- Oh, so you a boxer? Yeah. Okay. So I've really never been scared of nobody.

So you sweet with them hands, huh? Nice with them, and my feet. See, boxing is in the feet. Yeah. But see the thing is, when you know that you ain't scared of nobody, I had a grandmother that wouldn't let you run from nothing. So you add the, ain't no running.

So you got the box. So it don't matter the numbers. Cause my grandmother, man I remember these guys was trying to jump on me and I went home. My sister was like, what's wrong with you? I said, some boys out there trying to jump on me. My sister said, you gotta go back out there. I said, did you hear what I said? Some boys there trying to jump on me. My sister said, you gotta go back out there. I said, did you hear what I said?

Some boys is trying to jump on me. She called my grandma. My grandma, I get on the phone, she said, put him on the phone. I said, what's going on, girl? You tell me what's going on. I said, some boys out there trying to jump on me. She said, how many is it?

I said, about eight. They scared. Cause it's that many of them. I said, what? They scared. How many do you have? I said, just me. He said, they scared. Because there's that many of them. I said, what? They scared. How many do you have? I said, just me. He said, they scared.

Now you go out there and you show them motherfuckers why they shouldn't be fucking with you. And my sister- She gas you up with her not there. My sister walked out there with me and said, hey, I ain't going to let nobody get behind you. And she was right. They were scared. See, if you-

Once you teed off on one of them... Oh, no, don't even run. Cause I'm chasing you down now. My thing is, if you got a bunch of people with you, you only talking cause you got a bunch of people. Correct. Just like with dudes with all these crews. If I show up, I got a problem with you, I'm gonna show up by myself.

And we gonna dance. I don't care how many people you got with you, because you're scared, not me. You know what I'm saying? I done lost before and I done won before. So I don't have no rules. It's no person that's ever gotten to fight with me that wanna fight me again.

Even if they won, they don't wanna fight me again. They were like, nah, I'm cool. I'm cool with that, cause that's a hard way to go. So when I went to prison, oh man, I'm in your mouth so fast. They like, yo, little daddy right there got them hands, bro. And I'm like, I'm 51 now, and I'm still in the gym. You're still in the gym getting it in? Still in the gym getting it in.

So what was the craziest night? OK, you normally be on that hand. So what's the craziest thing that happened to you one night? Oh, man, I got to apologize to Carl Thomas, man. Carl Thomas? Hold on, not Carl, Martin? No, that's Carl Payne. OK, Carl.

Carl Thomas, the singer. The singer? Come on. How you beat up the art? I didn't beat up Carl Thomas. I didn't beat up Carl Thomas. Carl Thomas, I am, this how crazy it was. I'm at this club called The Roxy,

and they give me to host this concert. Carl Thomas is in concert. And in the rules, Ali, you cannot have a drink until after 12 o'clock, because they know I used to be on them double shots of Henna. Oh, man. Oh, my partner Steve, nice as DJing. And Carl is supposed to be on at 11 o'clock.

So I ain't drink nothing. 12 o'clock come. I ain't drink nothing. Carl show up late. 12, 15, I start drinking. Carl get there at 1245. Uh oh. I am three, four doubles down.

Oh lord. I'm in the DJ booth and I'm in there, I'm lit too. I'm in there lit fast. I'm lit fast. And I had just performed with Carl Thomas the night before in Dallas. Uh oh. I ain't say nothing. Man, they say, hey, Carl ready to perform.

I go right on stage. Hey, y'all, listen here. Carl is finally here. Mr. Summer Rain. You don't buff the man out like that? I'm just saying, he finally here. Hey, y'all, getting ready for the concert. Y'all give it up for recording artist, Carl Thomas and he walking on stage.

I said, damn Carl, you got the same Gucci pants on him last night. This is it. Give me this goddamn mic. And I know Frank of Beverly wear the same stuff. That white, bless his soul. Bless his soul. I performed with him a lot. But man, I didn't have to say that about Carl Thomas.

Carl see me two years later in Harlem in this club. My boy doing this club, he wanted, hey man, let me introduce you to one of my partners. We walk in, it's Carl Thomas, and Carl look at me. I don't like this. We've made up since, cause know, because he live in Houston. Right. Man, that's my partner now.

But he remember that night I said that about them Gucci pants. Now somebody can say that about me now. I wear Gucci all the time. Right. But not. Not. Not saying back. Not saying back.

Not saying back. So let me ask you this. What makes people, what makes people get more violent? The double shot of hen or the Mexican margaritas? Double shots of hand. Double shots of hand. That Mexican margarita, I don't know what's in it, but this is a spot in Houston that they won't even serve you more than two of them.

That's it? You can't even trick nobody into getting you another one. Oh, it's it's it's crazy. And I have drank two of them. Right. And thought I had left. I left still in that parking lot. Someone beaming through that.

And this is when I'm man, I'm told down. I don't know what's in it. Everything is in it, but it's it's crazy So let me ask you this where you when you tried to holler little Kim were you on that double shot? I was on that hand Full of it had a Hennessy IV And you just want so how you so how you approach little Kim? I'm with bad boy. Did they ain't there? Okay, no did it party? Okay, we're in amnesia

I'm with Bad Boy. Diddy ain't there. There ain't no Diddy party. We in Amnesia in Miami. I had been drinking all day. Lee, Sean, Prez, GT, I had been drinking all day. I knew I was tripping because I had came out of Gloria Steffan's restaurant, walking out and running to Quincy Jones.

Grab Quincy Jones. Grab Quincy Jones, because he with two bad foreign white girls. And I grabbed that, and I said, you the coldest. I ain't gonna open the crack with Quincy Jones. Man, and I'm drinking all day. Get to the spot, Shine is performing,

because this is right before Shine about to go to jail. Right, right, okay. He has a show in Houston coming up the next week, when we lead up. I see Lil' Kim and I had just read in this article that Kim say she like regular dudes. And at this time I'm a regular dude. That's you!

And man, I see Kim, I tell my partner, tell my partner say hey I'm finna go holler at little Kim. He said for what? I said because she like regular dudes. Everybody bigger than you. I'm coming through. Excuse my partner let me slide through. Hey man let me get to this big, the biggest, but he got his hand in my chair. He said, look daddy, where you going? I said, I'm going to holler at little Kim. She like regular dudes. He started laughing. He said, go on, I get right over there and say the wildest I ever said in my life. I get right in Kim's face. I said, big or dead, what we doing? And then didn't sling me out of that club. Oh, of all the things you could have said, hey Kim, my name is Olly, I just wanna holler at you, how you doing?

I heard you like regular dudes, I'm your guy that you looking for. That's what you came up with? That's all I had. It was the Hennessy, it wasn't me. I apologized, Kim. Wasn't me. Saw her again on the Tom Jones cruise,

and up mountains like, Ali, don't you start that shit. Leave it alone. I said, I don't even drink no more. I don't even drink that anymore. I'm good. But she was mad. I was wild on that Hennessy. I was a wild man.

You drink anything now or you don't drink at all? Or you get away from the brown? It's just the brown that you stay away from. I stay away from the brown. I like water, but I will partake in a margarita here and there. And don't nobody get in trouble on a margarita. But it's tequila and margaritas. Not when you have one.

But your problem, see, your problem wasn't the double shot, it was the problem you just couldn't have one double shot. It was two, three, four double shots. It was the Hennessy. Hennessy is a problem. Okay, name all the pleasant stories you ever heard on Hennessy. All Hennessy stories, okay, I'll tell you, name all the pleasant stories you ever heard on Hennessy. All Hennessy stories, man, I almost died last night.

All of them. Yeah, oh, hey, you wanna come out your clothes and fight now, for sure. And why you gotta take your clothes off when you're on Hennessy? Hey, you know how we do, we gotta come up out the shirt. Cause you sweating. See, that's the problem.

You sweating, the liquor's in your pores now, now you're extra violent. Can't nobody talk to you. Being from H-Town. Yes, sir. Man, look at Beyonce, Travis Scott, I mean, all the guys, I mean, is there anybody from like Houston

that you haven't met that you would like to meet, or you done met everybody? Cause that's where you, that's your dog. Anybody from Houston that I would like to meet that's from the H. You probably done made everybody. No, I don't think nobody from the H I would, I need to meet.

Like, everybody from the H. Everybody that I wanna meet. Right. Man, Andre Johnson. Why you always wanna, you like athletes but want to fight them? I don't want to fight all the athletes, the ones who be tripping. Just because they don't want to take no picture with you they tripping.

It ain't about the picture. It's about sometimes people mouth get them in trouble. You know what I'm saying? They underestimate because they look at you and look at you as small. They like, man get out of here a little bit. Come on, bro. And that's a mistake. That's a mistake, because the uppercut come from up under. That's the one you can't see now. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I'm gonna put my whole thing into it. I don't really get into it with the,

I don't get into it with the cool ones. Like, one of my cool people is somebody who, most people get into it, Vernon Maxwell. I ain't never got into it with Vernon. I don't even know what they talking about. I was like, right. Max sometimes be on some bull't even know what they talking about. I was like. Max sometimes be on some board data. Max E be on some board data.

But that's my man though. That's my man. I can see y'all getting along cause y'all got a very similar personality. Yeah. I can see how y'all rock with each other. I rock with Max. Posey, Nick Van Exel.

Shaq, anybody that live in Houston, Shaq owe me a thousand dollars. What'd he owe you for? Man, Shaq first album. Yeah. He getting his hair cut at Robert Young's salon on Richmond. I started this club called Just Joking Right Across Street.

So I'm in Robert Young's salon all the time. Shaq coming in, a diesel coming in, and he talking about his album. And I said, your album ain't gonna be good. He talking about, I bet you, you get my album, you gonna like every song on there. So I get the album. He he he he he he he.

Okay, how many songs you like? Two. Two. How many songs on the album? Probably 40, I don't know, but I know two of them was good. Two. Two. How many songs on the album? Probably 40, I don't know. But I know two of them was good. Okay. And I say, I come right back and I'm waiting on it.

I say, Shaq, two songs. You lying. Two songs I like, that's it. Where's my money? Still to this day, every time I run into one, I say, I just look at it. You just said you might've liked more, you might've liked about six or seven of those songs.

No, I did not like six or seven of them songs. You go back and listen to that first album. You didn't like six, you ain't even hear it. I didn't. That's the crazy thing. You were asking, you ain't even supported. Yeah, see that, you ain't listen to it. I didn't.

And you know the song with the food schnickens, and you heard him freestyle, that's about it. Yeah, now he good at freestyling. You don't think he good? When you don't know rappers, yeah. If you don't know rappers, yeah. So he good at freestyling. So what is...

There you go. Well, answer me this. Why are so many people moving to Houston? I think Drake is moving, didn't Drake just buy a place in Houston? Or he's moving to Houston. He's not like us There you go He's not like us why they do what first of all since you brought that up Why did why they turn on Drake like that man? I was um

This is me and people who know me notice. I really wouldn't a Drake fan like that. Okay, because I really wasn't a Drake fan like that. Because it was always selling something that I already heard. See, I'm a real hip hop person. I've been around as long as hip hop. So you can't give me a rendition of somebody else's style and think I'm rocking with it. He sounded like Short on this one. He sounded like short on this one.

He sounded like this person. And then when you, being from the H, I don't honor you stealing anything from us. Like chopped and screwed, any of that. Any thing that we created and you don't pay homage to us from getting it, I got a problem with that. I've always had a problem with that. But what about all the people that he put on, all the people that he helped about the mud?

Who? Come on, come on, Don't do that now. Don't do that. I don't know who he helped. You do though. No, I really don't. Cause he, was it from Houston? Who did he help?

He didn't help. Okay, UGK was UGK. Face is face. I'm talking about all the guys that went at him this summer. I ain't talking about the old guard. No, he didn't help the old guard, but I'm talking about a lot of the guys that he helped, that went at him this summer. Not just K-Dot, because he brought K-Dot onto it with him. But he helped a lot of other people.

I don't know who all this man helped. I'm in my own world. I don't know who all he helped. Give me somebody to help. But here's the thing, you don't know who he helped, but you know what he stole. You don't rock with him like that. Why you watching?

I can hear the style, it's on the radio. They pumping him on the radio. And then when you say certain things, you know it man Yo, what I got you turn what got you to okay that aside Okay, maybe it's because you say he biting people style and you've heard that style before but what is it about Drake? That rubs you the wrong way cuz it's more than the style. That was just a style I didn't have I had no other problems with it with the man. I know um In Houston man, it was some things that didn't happen in the age

that other people had problems with him. Sauce Walker had problems with him. You know, I wasn't in it. But the thing is, when you talk about our style, you know, our style is very unique and we get overlooked. And that's the other part of it. You can come and take something from a place that gets overlooked anyway.

If you don't put no shine on it, that's why I never left Houston. I wasn't going to LA or New York to do nothing. I'm age-town. And I didn't think that LA or New York had the pattern on who was funny or not. So why go there? And give them all this recognition.

And then the other thing is, when I make it, because in my mind I was gonna make it, so LA and New York get all of the contribution, everything I put into it, so I spend my money there, I'm gonna do everything. What about the people from my city that's not gonna get a chance to see me because I done moved away?

I'm from here. You know what I'm saying? So the people that's from where I'm from gotta see me. In the grocery store, at the bodega, you know what I'm saying? So the people that's from where I'm from gotta see me in the grocery store, at the bodega. You know what I'm saying? Walking up the street so they can benefit from me. Hey Ali, how did you do such and such? Oh man, this is how I did it. I'm not going somewhere else where everybody's trying

to do that now. I'm H-Town all day, all day. It's funny that you say that, because we've seen a lot of rappers try to go back to their home and it doesn't end up well for them. Why do you think that is? They didn't cultivate their area from the beginning.

I'm not in this space where I've helped everybody that ever asked me for help, I've helped. And some people who didn't ask me, I help. Because sometimes my help come when you don't know it. I'm in a room and I bring you up, hey, you can get this person that. Don't tell them that I said it. Just get them.

The thing is, if you don't cultivate your neighborhood, now you can't go back. Man, I can go anywhere in Houston. Who got a problem with me? Nobody. I live here. I love here. This is my space. So if you didn't do that, then no, you can't come back.

Now you can't come back unless you're coming back with a purpose to love your city. I don't think none of, this is what's so unique about Houston. We see, that's why I don't know a person that I would like to meet because I see everybody. And we don't run around with no entourages and all of this nonsense.

I'm in a safe space in my city. Right. I don't have no problems in my city. If you in your city, you got problems, what did you do? But you know, everybody's not happy for your success, Olly. Everybody's not. But when you have so many people that are, it's probably people that hate me

But it's so but you're gonna say something then somebody else gonna say for what right? They're gonna question Your hate If you ain't got nobody questioning your hate then something wrong I don't have to always Defend myself the city had defend me right? I'm saying? The people that know me, it's people in the city

when I said something about a situation, I don't even know him. And people like, you don't know him. Oh, you must be young. You must be young. You gotta be. And then the young people that know me were like, wait a minute.

You do know that he did such and such and such and such, I'm a charitable person and I don't need a camera to record it. Right. If I give some charity, I don't need to post it and none of that. And me and Marcus, Marcus D. Wilder, my partner, we was together one time. He said, hey, man, you know what you just did?

People have a camera and they need to point. Yeah. And I said, God recorded it. Yes. I don't know. That's how I am. I like to I like to do and not because the question that you have to ask yourself is this, if you did something that was special And no one told you it was special would you still feel special? Yeah, there you go. That's your answer. Yeah, cuz just like this

Domino effect one two, three and four the first ever Special I'm the first comic ever in the world to do a special that's all connected, a four-part series special. People don't recognize it, but it's still special. Right. You believe in special, that's all that matters. And that's what matters to me. The Ghetto Boys came out with a song, Mind Playin' Tricks on. Yeah. Why do you relate to that song?

Man, this is just I I was friends with Bushwick, friends with Willie D now. I just got really just got the phone with him. Friends with Brad. So Mind Playing Trick Song.

First of all, the beat was crazy. Yeah. And that what he was rapping, what they were rapping about. This is a lot of times people's life. You know what I'm saying? You can think that you something and you not. Your mind is actually playing tricks on you. So to stay grounded in reality is what this song was really about. You know what I'm saying?

So, and that man said, I pulled in the potp pies and bailed out quick. If it's going down, let's get it over with. And that's a slogan for me. If it's going down, let's get it over with. I've never, I wish I was scared of somebody, Shannon. I really wish I was so I can understand Shannon. I really wish I was. So I can understand that.

Did you always have that mentality? Yeah. Yep. I've been a small man in stature, like you said. So, but you know something, I was first of all, Shannon, I was big. I've been five, seven since like... Seven, eighth grade? Before that.

Let me think, sixth grade? And I was a center. I started off playing center. I was a five. That's where they come to the... In basketball? Yeah, I was a five. And over one summer, it's like everybody went to sleep,

and then I was a one. I know well. My first position playing football, inside linebacker, right inside linebacker. And I was vicious. I'm not gonna get it out, because I don't have no regard for my own self. So I'm out there, inside linebacker,

then I went from that to receiver, then I went to cornerback. And it was all- You couldn't catch that way, you were the cornerback, huh? No, I wanted to hit people I could still catch now Shannon the difference is between like now you talk about Today's supposed to be through mm-hmm rappers and all this supposed to be in the streets. All right They're not athletic. So I don't believe them Cuz it growing up.

And you saw Drake hoopin'. Drake be hoopin'. I got hoop. Drake. I got. Let him rain in the gym. You saw it. You saw it too.

Ah. See it. Breathe. Breathe to be dropping Davey. All them boys be hoopin'. Hooping. Stop. Chains.

Hooping. Stop it, Shannon. Stop it. Ah, man. B Stop it, Shannon. Stop it. Oh, man. D.C. Deacon hoop. Brian McKnight can hoop. These boys can't even catch. They might not can catch.

They might not can catch. Man. They might not can catch a football. They can't catch a baseball, a tennis ball. All I know, I've seen Drake put it in the basket. Man. You did too. No, I did not. I did not see this man put nothing in the basket.. You did too. No, I did not

I did not see this man put it in the basket. He probably beat you one-on-one. I doubt it. I don't You're not gonna skip me. You're not gonna skip me. See what you're doing? You're trying to do a skip me. No, I'm just saying. I've seen that man hoop. I've seen some of these other I've seen breezy who they obviously are Jay Cole give you that work give you that work you think I don't give me that work work work work work work work I'm a put I'm a put Jacob in the boat throw it to me I'm still a big man but wellud Webb couldn't post up. That's Spud Webb. Unless he's posted up Webster. Gary Coleman. Chris Paul couldn't post up.

Chris Paul's six foot? What that mean? Ain't no 5'7 post players. That's what that mean. Man, that man, I put that man on my hip. Put that work on left hand or right hand. You finna get these boys in trouble. So the thing is this, why they don't do

the celebrity basketball games like they used to in All Star. They do, they just had it. Man, did you see BVD? Did you see these boys hoop? These boys was nasty. Brian Mcdite get them boys at work right now. I'm talking about real hoopers. No, he tried to do that Oh, he's a weird the NBA love to have Brian Mcdite out there. Hey, Master Peek at who? Yes

these new boys can't Have you ever seen him in a in a softball game? They can't can't catch You trying to get these new boys I think what Travis Scott have a father they can't catch any father ain't do nothing with them Can I ask you oh let me ask you this let me transition to this You and pim see almost get into it. What was that about? He was talking crazy my sister. He was young. He was a young boy He was talking crazy my sister and. He was young. He was a young boy. He was talking crazy to my sister.

And your sister told? Yeah, and I saw it. I'm in the club. Okay. At the time, you gotta think. I'm already a dope boy. Okay. I'm in the streets already, Shannon.

Okay. This man is a rapper. Okay. Young boy. You know what I'm saying? So I'm already mad aggressive. because I'm already in the streets. I've been in the streets since 88. Damn. Yeah, since 88. Damn, the 40 years. I'm not a, I'm not a, I'm not one of these guys. I used to listen to these guys when I came home in 1997.

I'm already, I've been in the streets since 88. 88, I'm already doing things. Right. And stuff I won't say on camera, I'm already doing things. Right. And I'm a problem. So when they rapping, that ain't got nothing to do with what I'm actually doing.

What I'm actually doing. You're real in those streets. They're talking about the streets. I'm already in the streets. You know what I'm saying? So like now when I listen to people, I'm like, man, that's what y'all, y'all really? But y'all cool now? He did. Oh, that's right

I forgot I forgot We went to the same barber and I'll let oh big shout out to Nick. We went to the same barber Well, I'm glad bro. I'm glad you made peace with it. I've made peace with mostly everybody mostly. Yeah, exactly We don't get to that a little later So help me understand you went to the you went to the script club with Moses Malone. Man, Big Mo, what's up baby? He gone too. Yes.

How did you meet Moses Malone? Anthony Colbert Sr. First person to ever invest in my career. He bought me some head shots. I started doing stand up and he said, hey man, you're gonna need some head shots. I started doing stand-up and he said, hey man, you're gonna need some head shots. And he sent me to this guy named Montague, who was the same person that was shooting Destiny Child.

And I knew that them pictures was expensive because the man is named Montague. Anybody named Montague is definitely charging you. His name is Montague. And he had some circle glasses. I said, yeah, this is high quality. Great head shots. Him and Moses, very, very close friends.

I learned a lot hanging out with Moses and Anthony Colbert Senior. Anthony Colbert Junior is my accountant, my close friend. We own a food truck park together, 4501 Alameda. His father, when his father passed, before his father passed, he told me and Anthony to always stick together. To me, I always stick together.

So we do. But man, Moses would wanna go to the strip club to have lunch. This spot called Treasures, he wanna have lunch. So, I go with him, me, Anthony Senior, we in the strip club, and I'm thinking that they going for the strippers. This buffet in this strip club and I'm thinking that they going for the strippers. This buffet in this strip club was amazing. Yeah, people see when you tell people that people think you lying. I mean the five of nights too though. But the food is really good.

Magic City, you ever been to Magic? I've been to Magic City. Tell me the food ain't busted. I didn't eat no food in Magic City. Why you, why you there then? Because I was with some other people. Man. They wasn't hungry? I didn't eat no food in Magic City. I was like, I'm not a strip, what's crazy is, I'm not a strip club guy.

I ain't either. But if I'm there. I don't want the strippers dancing on me. I just, I can't. You don't want no booty juice on your strippers dancing on me. I just don't. You don't want no booty juice on your chicken? I can't. I just don't. What you mean dancing on you?

What's wrong with you? Oli, what? They ain't got, where's the shower at? They been in there all day. Where's the shower? I mean, look, they do a couple things. Don't be wet wiping nothing and sliding on me. Man, I just can't, oh, I, oh, on my clothes,

these clothes, clothes something. I don't want you on me like that. Man, they go down and freshen up after about two, two, three seconds. Freshen up with what? They got showers down there. Ain't no showers, where the showers at? Well, I'm gonna call Madge after I get off here,

I'm asking. Yeah, ain't no showers in them, Spock and Burl going down there, changing into them same bathing suits, just, just. They got them white and wipe, okay, they doing a little birdbath little birdbath love man shanon no i don't know bird bath brought on me you do it just in there bird bath just man just vagina just

put all that bacteria vaginosis all on me i don't want all that going on on me man i throw my money from a distance. I go, baby, I pitch my money to them. I will, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. VLive, I was in VLive one time, I love the making it rain. When making it rain came out, cause you can throw your money up in the air.

And that's it. You don't need nobody dancing on you. Even this girl man Garris is so man Victor um Victor and Eric I would come to they spot Yeah, and they know they know how to get there. They know how to give me it was girl named Tammy the tiger What you do? Oh, she Wow. Hmm. I'm so much In the first time I didn't know she was no dancer. I saw her in the roxy She's just in the roxy looking great. I was I was sent a merlot because she drank merlot Man, I found that that girl was a dance. I went down to the club

Fine as she can be um, but still I don't want nobody dancing on me I can Um, but still I don't want nobody dancing on me. I Didn't let Tammy dance on no, I thought it money she on that stage I thought it might out there But I just don't dance on me. I don't like it Shannon you gave me the creeps now Oh, I don't like nobody dancing on me if you ain't got no bad You see You came down to you you you came down to Houston. I remember you was in Houston. And they got you, they got you.

Cause you, I heard you and Ocho Cinco, cause you know, he gets it in. So y'all in Houston and you in that strip club. I didn't go to strip club. I didn't. I almost moved to Houston. The best decision I made. One of the best, in the last five years,

one of the best decisions that I made. Sometimes the best decision is the one that you don't make. You gonna leave right there? I'm gonna leave right there. Hey, let me tell you something. That H-Town. That's a different animal. It's full of... Yes, it is.

You don't need to go to no strip club to see one. Ooh, that gal-o-real. I'm with you when you ride. Oh, that gal-o-real. That gal-o-real is crazy. I'm with you all the way. Would you ride? I'm talking about you. Hey, if you come up to the street and you're like, oh, I'm with you, would you ride? I'm talking about you. Hey, if you come up to the street and you're like, oh, I'm with you all the way. Would you ride? I'm talking about you. Hey, if you come up to the street and you're like, oh, I'm with you all the way. Would you ride? I'm talking about you. Hey, if you come up to the street and you're like, ooh, that Galareal. I'm with you when you're right. Oh, that Gallo, that Gallo is crazy.

I'm with you all the way, when you're right. I'm talking about you, hey, if you come on Almeida, just on that, just stand out there. Just stand out there on Almeida, they out there. I'm talking about a sun dress, no drought zone, it's crazy. Man, let's talk about, I heard you ran into Tupac. You trying to move the youth. Tupac, you ran into Tupac. You ran into Tupac when he was with Digital Underground?

Yeah. See, I was already in the streets. Already in the streets. Money V on that elevator just drunk. We were chopping it up. We had a, it's a rap convention. Right. Rap convention.

And they come down. Dana Dane was on, big shout out to Dana Dane. Dana Dane, it's the escalator wasn't working in the hotels. Everybody had to catch the elevator. Dana Dane was sitting on the broken escalator. I get on the elevator, Money B is on that, we had just finished chopping up with him. He was drunk. I see who now Tupac, I didn't know that was.

You didn't know that was him, right? I didn't know that was him. He dancer, you know. With digital undergrade. With digital underground. But it wasn't this, it wasn't that thug persona. And how would it be a thug persona to somebody who's already thugging in the streets?

Right. Like I'm already a wild man. So I didn't see him like everybody else saw him. Even when I was locked up, I used to be like, I didn't see him like everybody else saw him. Even when I was locked up, I used to be like, that kid wasn't no thug like that. So when you see, having been in the street, live that life, breathe that life, when you hear guys talk about that life,

you're like, man, y'all need to stop this. They really do. They really do. I'm talking about, cause it's like, even with these young boys now, it's shameful. It's shameful. And my problem is this. I never lied on my mama like that. And it's all we know.

Stop it, dog. So your mama never said, did nobody ever say nothing good to you. So everybody's just doing bad. Every, every black person just doing bad. Everybody's from the hood. Everybody, nobody mama making it. Nobody. Daddy was making it. Nobody. Everybody just, everybody just destitute.

Right. Man, stop it, man. I tell people in the special, I never had to be in the streets. My mama had a job. I just couldn't handle being outside, not being in the atmosphere. My daddy, my dad had a job. When I moved in my dad, my dad had a job. My dad was fly, tailor made suits, all that. My dad was selling powdered cocaine only because he had

a carrier service downtown. And it was lawyers that he was carrying stuff for, getting documents signed, and they was on powder. So my daddy just- Barter, eh. Just right into it. You know what I'm saying? So him, Ivory, James, James the boxer. Ivory has one side of downtown as a carrier service. My dadory has one side of downtown at the carry service. My dad had the other side of downtown. They, they partner us. My dad was selling these pills.

Everybody was popping pills back then. I'm saying so when he started selling powder, he didn't want me to sell power. Even though I had to open the door and sell appeals for him when he was gone. He was wild. But my dad didn't want me in the streets. My mama didn't want me in the streets. I hid all that from my mama just now be finding out stuff that I was died. Did back then.

Wow. But so I don't give this story of, oh, we was destined to be doing I had to sell. I had to do shit. didn't have to do shit. But be a kid. Right. Which people find hard to do nowadays. Like being a kid is something wrong. Everybody wanna grow a fast, yeah.

Everybody wanna grow a fast. They do. And it makes no sense to me. And then lie on your family. Like there's no honorable people in your family. Man, cut it out, man. Cut it out. It's crazy. So you mentioned that your mom had a job,

your dad had a job, you really didn't. So what type of upbringing? So give us a synopsis. When you were a kid growing up in Houston, you were in the projects, if I'm not mistaken, what did you wanna be when you grew up? A chef. A Navy SEAL. Okay? A chef. A Navy SEAL.

Okay. A chef. Then what happened? I started cooking the wrong thing. Ah! Ah! Shit, I'm cooking the wrong thing, man. You were making the Oskar of the collard greens

and that thing like that. Hey, man, I'm a chemist. I'm cooking the wrong thing. Oh man. So that, and that's the, and that's the, just being in the streets, man, I was, I didn't have to be out there, Shannon. Right.

Real talk, I just didn't. And my mom, my mom, that really was embarrassing for my mom. Right. You know, I apologize to my mom too, all the time for. Being dishonorable to what she was about. Right. You know, and I think that in families nowadays.

It's no honor. They don't want to honor the mother, honor the father, honor the family. You want you want to put mud on your people's name, and that's wrong. But a lot of guys don't see it like that. They think that street cred, what does it get you? You can't buy nothing with it. can't buy nothing with it. Can't buy nothing with it.

You are more embarrassing to society, to your family, to your children, I'm saying to your grandma. It's really shameful, man, that how these people, It's really shameful, man, that how these people, and I'm not perfect in this, but I'm not gonna, it would break my heart, man, for my kids to be out in the streets acting like I didn't teach them what was right.

And I didn't do- You didn't do anything for them. I didn't do them what was right. And I didn't do. You didn't do anything for them. I didn't do anything for them. And it would break my heart to see my friends' children like that. Right. You know, I got friends that their kid want to be in the streets.

And you know, I go try to talk to them. Man, why do you want to be out here? What you missing? Why are you trying to hurt your father? Why are you trying to hurt your mother? Like, what is the real core of it? Are you... You have to be a part of what everybody else is doing? And everybody else is not really doing it. I see these young kids out here that masquerading to be thug life. But this is what the music sell them. So I have a problem with that as well.

What you say, you selling something that you not. So when you run into people that's that, they take offense to it. I'm offended. Because you, bro, go on, man, before you make me show you the difference between me and you. Because, bro, you ain't really been tested. You ain't been in nothing. I'm telling you exactly what's going to happen, bro.

And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you exactly what's going to happen, bro. And I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I've already done. So it's a different type of intensity when it went, man, I do my best, I do my best, Shannon. And I cry a lot, man. I cry a lot, man, for people. Is there a mentality that you must adopt

in order to be in the streets like you were in the streets? Yeah, and it's brutal. It's brutal. You gotta be heartless. You gotta be ruthless. You gotta not care. You gotta be Shannon. You looking at a man that will kill you with your baby in your hand.

Hey, man, put your kid down, bro. I don't wanna do this in front of your kid. And now the intensity with me, man, going on, bro, before something happened to you for real, for real. I don't want to play with you because you don't really have enough people for real because you're dealing with somebody that you don't really understand. I was 19 years old by myself in prison, and it won't be one person ever to talk out of

turn about what happened in there with me. Because I got a mean, mean, mean streak in me. Hey man, you better go on before I put your ass in the grave, boy. I don't need nobody. I don't need nobody. I ain't gotta go get nothing. I'ma quit right now with my bare fucking hands. Did take that in there into those walls like that in the streets Wow? When that man hit me if when this man hit me in my face

I'm 15 years old This man six four six five He stole on you yeah from behind cuz that no we had to I'll get bussed down. I'm not playing no games with nobody. This is the thing. My mom... She dated a man...

that was brutal to me. You know what I'm saying? He was brutal. And I said in my life, I will never in life let somebody beat on me again. I'm seven. Man, the type of violence that... That he inflicted on you. I will inflict on a person trying to do that shit that he did to me when I was seven. Did you tell your father? Yeah. My daddy came

over. Got into it with him. They pushed my daddy out the house, right? And my daddy is in the window, he say, open and unlock the door. I unlock the door, let him back in. Ah! You been on that for a minute, Ollie. I unlock that door, let that man back in, my daddy right back on his ass. But that only made it worse for me.

Right. Because he going to leave, and you still got to be there. Yep. So how old were you when you decided to say, you know what, you ain't going to put your hands on me no more, you're not going to talk out of place. Did he leave or did you leave? My mom left him. Okay.

But it was a thing. By the time I was nine. Man, you not doing nothing to my mama. You not doing nothing to me. You not doing nothing to my sister. I remember this man living in these apartments. And my mom getting clothes out the dryer, the bottom dryer, and this man left the top dryer open.

And my mom came up, and my mom only 4'11", came up and hit her head. She came in, she rubbing her head. I said, what happened? This stupid ass man left the dryer open. I said, did he apologize This stupid ass man left the dry open. I said, did he have a dry? Talk about now. It's these little bats.

They call them Astroworld bats. They're from Astroworld. Little, little sluggards. I got that bat and I put it in my back. And I went down and I said, hey, did the lady just bump her head in here? He said, yeah.

I said, did you apologize? Cause you left the drought. He said, no. So how old are you at this time? 11. 11. Man, it was a bad scene in that laundry. Bad scene. He grown man.

Didn't matter. Why not? If my mother wouldn't have came down and I would have killed him. My mama would tell anybody, if you get into it with him, you better hope that he talking. Because if he not talking, he's thinking of a way to hurt you bad.

And I'm not a person, I'm not trying to get away with nothing. I'm going to do what I'm going to do and that is it. Just like when I was locked up, that officer Mitchell, bro, you trying to, man, you stripping me down in the vestibule area, you tripping, bro. You tripping. So what, so when you say strippin' you down. Yeah, makin' me get naked in the vestibule area,

just cause he felt like he had the power to do it. And I told him, I said, Metro Man, this ain't gonna be good for you, bro. Now I'm telling you. And it happened, and I changed. Like I used to be very jovial and everybody know, I was like this every day, like four months. I was like, it's gonna come up.

I'm gonna get an opportunity to show this man why he shouldn't have did that. And when I did, I was gonna kill that man. And I was gonna go back to my cell. I wasn't, I'm in prison, where I'm gonna go? I'm not gonna escape. I'm gonna kill that man. I'm gonna go back to my cell.

They gonna come get me. I'm gonna pack my stuff up. They gonna come get me. And I'm gonna be here. But disrespect, come on, bro. If it wasn't for Alameen and Mustafa, I'd have killed that man. Name was Mitchell. Not playing at all. And I know people like, oh, he act like he tough. No, I don't. No, I don't. I'm very jovial, I'm very peaceful. You got to push me to something.

I'm very jovial, I'm very peaceful. You got to push me to something. And I'm gonna say, I'm gonna pause up most of the time. Hey, bro. But if you keep going. You trying to take it there. You trying to take it there. And I'm probably gonna take it there. Wanna see you there.

And I'm gonna cry for you and wish the best for your family and all the rest of that. Oh, but man, it's bad. It's bad. and and and wish the best for your family and all the rest of that. Oh, but man, this is bad. It's bad. It's bad because I'm not I've never started to fight my whole life. I finished a lot of I've never started one. I'm more offended that you bothering me than anything, because this is what people do.

They're not coming to pick on you. Why not? Because of my size. When they look at you, they think you an easy victory. That's how they all know. So they basically they underestimate you because they looking at- But why even bother me? Because they feel that's an easy win, Ali.

Why you think? Why not bother you? They say what they want. So you ain't what they want, but I'm what they want. Is that because you know how animals are on when animals hunt, they find the old or the weak. OK, so watch this. What would you what would What would anybody rather deal with?

A lion or a honey badger? Well, see, people don't know about that honey badger. Yeah, and that's they problem. Now, when you mess around and find out about it, a lion don't want it with a honey badger. No. At all. No. And I'm a honey badger.

I'm low to the ground I can fight backwards. I'm doing my Steve is razor-sharp. It was in like why are you playing with me? They don't know they need to find out about a honey badger Your parents got divorced when you were very young. Did that impact you and make you or what you became? Because you say you were in the street and you didn't have to be. You chose to be in the streets. And you've told me right here that, look, my dad had a job, my mom had a job. I didn't have to do anything that I did.

But they're divorced. Did that play a role? Did that father drive you in the street? Major. Man, when you are a father, it's very important that you stay close. Even if you detach, you still gotta be in the kid's life. You gotta be there because it's a certain amount

of protection comes with that. People pray on the week when they see something weak or they can figure out how to get in there but when your father is there, my daddy, I don't even really know if my daddy could fight. But, cause he never would be in a fight cause he was up in the MP, don't mess with me. I know karate. I don't know why he would always say that. I never seen my dad knew no karate.

He probably didn't know it. But he's 6'3". Right. My dad is 6'3", jet black. My uncle Mac, I'm talking about fight from the go. My dad, if he would have stuck closer to us, then the abuse would have never happened. Right, okay.

You know what I'm saying? If you make sure that you're taking care of things, then my mom don't have to sacrifice like she did to try to take care of us. Now we're being left at home by ourselves. Right. You know, it's all these things. If you facilitate certain things, then you cut out a certain amount of nonsense.

Correct. Predators know when no father's around. Mm-hmm. Man, you can't really come to my kids because they like, hey man, it is a father very close. And I'm a big problem. Like I question everything. You know, like, yeah man, what's going on with you? I pop up everywhere.

I'm always showing up. So if you that type of father, then predators stay away. Like this man was talking about, he said, why he, how he chose his victims. I saw that. He said, he didn't choose the black, white, Latina didn't matter.

He said he looked at the father. If the father wasn't a threat. But I knew that from being inside. Talking to these type of predators makes me very skeptical in the world. I don't I don't want you to do certain things. I want you to be certain places. I'm always on guard because I know the actual predators.

I know how they think. I know how they move. And what's crazy, do you know those type of predators get protected inside because of real. Oh, they stand no chance. Cause we gonna kill them. Absolutely. And I'm not talking about what I heard. Yeah.

They keep them away from us. And I used to, it used to burn me up though. I come in. How y'all know them people come in? Cause I'm always wondering, how y'all know this guy was a, he killed an old person. He killed an elderly or he molested a child or he killed. y'all know about that y'all get new. I know Who tip y'all off about that? I was a fine safety clerk

Right, okay, is that people know what your jacket is when you come in there They know what you're doing And once we find out. Or hell to pay. Oh, it's hell to pay. But they keep them in protective custody. Why they get protected? No, do that.

You want to do all that to the little kids that can't protect themselves. They got to go ahead. That's where you should do it. That's the craziest thing. I'm a street pharmaceutical rep, which is very frowned upon. I come in there, nonviolent crime.

You put me with everybody else. The most violent of the violent. But then this dude who then serial raped, serial molest, you put him down there in protective custody with other serial molesters and rapists. Why don't you throw him to the wolves like everybody else? Because you know we're gonna pull him apart. We're gonna pull him apart.

The justice will be served. If you kill a baby, oh, the justice will be served. We gonna get you in the county. So we already know what you came in there in the county. In the county jail. We trying to bust you to the white meat in the county jail. I remember I'm on 10B3 and on the other end is 10C2.

We can see they block. And it's a guy that had killed a baby, baby girl, through in the braze bayou. He get arrested, because we seen on the news, he get arrested. Everybody hoping that he get sent to the 10th floor. 1301 Franklin, that man get sent to the 10th floor. 1301 Franklin, that man gets sent to the 10th floor. We hoping that he come to our cells overhead.

They sent him down to 10C2. And the sheriffs put him in there and closed the main salad door. Like what you can hear in the hallway, he already behind the bar, they closed the salad door. And it was like on cartoons. You saw him run this way, and you saw a pack go that way. Then you saw him run this way,

and you saw the pack go that way. And then the next thing we know is a cold blue It's over They come to get him on a stretcher. They didn't slam this bone his neck so many times Trying to kill him because you killed the baby So the elderly and the kids and women went and women So the elderly and the kids. And women.

And women. See, I think sometimes that these. It's funny that you guys have rules and regulations in there, but you don't follow by the rules and regulations out here. Hey, Shane, there you go. There you go. Talk to me. I mean, you better break it down to me.

So, listen, listen, man. You trying to get the money. You trying to get bread. So, you not messing with women and children. Right. Long as you don't harm the women, children, the elderly, you good. Man, do what you're doing.

You know what I'm saying? Do it fair business. And I come from an era of fair business. You know, saying so. If you're doing dirty business, then there's something wrong with you. But I come from fair business and there's no we didn't even back then. We didn't even. Do you understand?

You you ask you ask Gilly a question about athletes getting protected. It wasn't just athletes. It was anybody that had potential that we saw. Man, we was honorable. It was my honor amongst these. Man, the dude named Phil, we out in the street selling dope. We ain't letting Phil sell no dope.

Phil play the saxophone. Man, you can't sell no dope, Phil. Boy, you the next one. I don't know, we see this boy, hey Phil, say Phil. Hey, man, come over here with your little harmonica, man. Just calling this instrument all the wrong names. Man, come on, man. The savages, you know, they un harmonica, man. Just call this instrument all the wrong names. Man, come on, man. The savages, you know, they unruly, man.

Play something to soothe these savages. And he, he play something. And boy, break them all, man, go on. My boy, Michael Vian, he tried to sell dope. And I said, boy, cut it out. I took him to the mall. I said, get whatever you want. And then sent him to school.

Bro, you ain't, this ain't for you out here. We're not, we had a lot of honor about ourselves then. What happened? These same people wanted to be in the streets same people wanted to be in the streets. They wanted to be in the streets. See, everybody, it's like my friends now. I don't have no thug friends.

All these boys is fathers. They're not in the streets. I don't hang with no thugs. Like for what? It's not what you not it's not even cool It's not even cool. I to be on the constant stress Man, that's not me always getting into it You can't y'all can't ever go out and have a good time because you always into it. You always beefing

it's like The reason why a lot of these dudes is doing is because it's really not no street Consequences, it's a safe space if you talking you talking all out loud me. You trying to do nothing You trying to do nothing, but I just don't get I just don't get the atmosphere of Everybody want to be a thug. Everybody. Yeah. Everybody.

Well, you playing football, right? How many thugs was out there on the football field when you was playing? No. No. Now you got people that come to leagues and they uncoachable because they want to have this street persona. Right. Why when you play football?

And you making all this money, you want to go hang out with the dudes on the. Why when you play basketball? I don't get it. Why when you play baseball? Because the others are not doing that. Right. What's the boy that went to jail for play for the Patriots?

Her name is it. Why, bro? What inadequacy are you trying to cover up by doing that? Got to show the whole thing. I'm real keeping it real. But that's the great thing. Who thinks that that's keeping it real? Some more people that ain't got no sense. Yeah, that's not in your situation.

That's not even in your situation. Oh, man, let me let my partner have 80 million dollars. OK, so Marcus D. Wiley, right? This is what he said to me, this type of this is the type of partners that I have. This is what he said to me. This is the type of partners that I have. I'm talking about doing something reckless. And this man say, hey,

you just got presented with a plaque and all your cities on there, your gross earnings, you know, and that's something really to be admired and really be proud of. Now, go out there and throw all the shit away if you want to. And walk in his house. Get off my yard if I call the police on your ass.

He is, man, my friends are not letting me throw my career away for nothing. If you, and the other thing is, most of these people now on the 40 and I got a real I got a real theory about men that's under 50 in that in that in that era behind me. They have a lot of embarrassment in them. They can be embarrassed easily. So when you can be embarrassed, you internalize things, and that's why most of these guys have these mental health. Here they go, oh, my mental health.

Because you do not have friends. This is why you have a mental health condition, because you do not have friends for checks and balances. You for what, 56? Yep. Okay. Do you and your friends talk? Yeah. About everything? Mm-hmm.

You're not embarrassed. You're not embarrassed. My, my whole era, whether you had, bro, I remember I called, this ain't, first you had, I call, first of all, let me just clear this up. It wasn't from me doing nothing, somebody step in my bed with somebody that was unclean.

And I don't know, I get back in my bed, early in the morning, because that's when you find out you got crafts, early in the morning, it's never in the daytime. It's always early in the morning, because that's when you find out you got craps early in the morning. It's never in the daytime. It's always early in the morning. So I'm sitting on the commode and man, what a little crab thing. Man, I don't know what this is. Man, I'm 17.

I don't, I've never, man, I got bugs on me. I go right and knock on the door My partner is in there and I can't say nothing cuz he in there with my Girlfriends freeing it. Mm-hmm. Okay, I'm not going down. I said she He said what I said He said, what? I said, look. He said, man, what's that? I said, I don't know.

And he looked, because he wore glasses. He put his glasses on. He said, oh, boy, you got craft. I got something for that. I told him. I went and told him. I'm not keeping the bugs to myself. Right.

Me and Kid, me and Kid Styles, we go to Echo's Drugs. Echo's Drugs, baby. We go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs.

And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs. And we go to Echo's Drugs., we go to Echo's Drugs. Echo's Drugs, we go to Echo's Drugs, and I knew it was gonna be, something was gonna happen. I get to Echo's Drugs, me and Kid, and the pharmacist,

this one pharmacist was open all night. And then the pharmacist, the man had, I'll never forget, he had a thick mustache and some glasses. He turned, this is how he turned around, that man turned around, yes! I said, hey, I need some medicine. And I'm whispering because it's some construction workers in there doing painting and stuff.

I said, he said, for what? I said, I got some bugs on me. He said, you got crabs got some bugs on me. He said, you got crabs? All the construction do, all the man got crabs. I said, loud. Give me the medicine, right? Tell me what the medicine is, the little shampoo, little comb.

I got just the medicine. We go to the register, ah, and it's this girl at this register. She fire her. Whoo! Kiss that one out of the window. No. We go back, and this one, that little basket,

the little purse basket just came out. We get the basket, we put the crab medicine, and we put a bunch of other stuff in there. And I said, hey, kid, when we get up there, just talk to her She ringing up he talking and she just ringing up up to she ain't even looking at such as do Do just ring it up to do do do and then kick it kick it

It the medicine didn't ring up Yeah, this is the only thing that didn't ring up and she looked and saw that crab mess. My partner so dirty, he goes, my. And his medicine. But I went in so my father, my partner claiming me and say, man, my meat hot. I said, what? He said, man, I'm here off five. I said, boy, you got something. You got something. You're meat juicing, you got something. I went and told my partner, I said, hey, man, this boy, meat, how'd he woke up?

This meat stuck to his cell. He said, hey, man, let me take you to the doctor, boy. Now we all three go to Riverside. It was in together, we in there. Yeah, yeah, this boy meet high. But it's no embarrassing that people nowadays let that fester into something else. Cause they embarrassed.

You gotta have friends and you gotta have real friends that are dedicated to what you're doing. If not, yeah, you're gonna have mental health conditions. Yeah, you're gonna be out in the streets wildin'. You don't have nobody to say, hey man, bro, don't do that. Right. I mean, you don't know, man, bro.

But if everybody thuggin', how many kids out here just going alone Just get along right You mentioned your grandma Errol in the beginning how influential was she man big deal both of them My dad's mom and my mom's mom both of them my grandma Callie She was different than my grandma Louise But they and I didn't like my grandma Louise at first, when I was a kid. But I understood why she did the things that she did.

These are the same people that taught me how to garden, taught me how to grow stuff, gave me work ethic, you know what I'm saying? Baby sat me, whooped my ass when I needed it. You know, all these different things. And they still in a lot of me they still didn't lie to me, you know, and they never lied to me. Neither one of them never lied to me.

Didn't make me out to be more than what I was, or none of that, just, man, you gotta be solid. My mom was like that, my aunts were like that. I'm grown by my family. And like, I go back to man, I hate that I got locked up and my family had the better at that burden of sending me stuff and explaining where I was at

and all these things. Man, I'm supposed to be doing something else. Let me ask you a question. Had you not gotten locked up, are you sitting here today? Yeah, I'm supposed to be doing something else. Let me ask you a question. Had you not gotten locked up, are you sitting here today? Yeah, I'm sitting here today. I'm one of the greatest chefs alive. God! You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm sitting here. See, that's the thing. I tell people, man, you ain't got to go through no hardship to get nowhere. Right. Everything doesn't have to be hard. Okay.

Life is supposed to be fun. It's supposed to be fun, it's not supposed to be hard. You wanted to be a chef. Well, somewhere along the line, you started cooking stuff that wasn't on the menu at most restaurants. Wasn't on the menu. So when you decided to make that turn,

do you remember like, man, I'm gonna start selling? Yeah, I do. Running with the wrong people. And I was like, man, what y'all doing? Cause they feel like big wads of money. And my mama, my mama working hard for her money. She ain't coming off of it easy. Then to come to my mama and ask for something,

you gotta have your situation together. Right. Hey, all that coming to my, it's some new shoes out. And not, mom, what's wrong with the shoes you got on? But it, mama, these cool, but my daddy bought them in the grocery store. These grocery stores cheap. And my daddy bought them in the grocery store. These grocery stores cheap. And my daddy was cheap.

He ain't like he had no money. He was just cheap. Most old people cheap. He didn't see, but I didn't understand that. My grandma, she would work. She would put our stuff in layaway and work, right? Right. But by the time we got it, I grew it.

It's out of style too. Man, my grandma, you still gonna wear them clothes. My grandma used to stop at this spot called Wieners, Bales, you know, Palace Roll. I remember my daddy got me a nice little round table. It was supposed to be a polo. Don't do that, Jan. I get that.

It looked like a polo. Don't do that, Jan. I get that it's a polo. It looked like a polo. But he had an ax. He had a polo stick he had an ax on. That man had a flag, man. I'm like, man, I'm like, hey, and I'm rocking it like it's a polo, and this is being embarrassed at school. Oh, you're not gonna go join you. This boy act like he got on a polo. And that's the same Bernard on your.

I mean, it's no dog on my shirt, man. But I am the rabbits. Remember, I had these shirts with rabbits on. Man, my daddy, my daddy was a cold man because he was like, hey, man, you are the man that you make the clothes, not the clothes don't make you. And Not as no kid, no kid gonna draw you out of it.

But that's the thing, that's a part of growing up, learning embarrassment. Right. That's why you grow up and have tough skin, but I already knew it was gonna be like that because Jones had started at home. And my cousins, my cousin mama who had some more money than us, he got polos and that boy come over with his collar popped

up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look at you. Yeah, look at you. Like, first of all, boy, you didn't buy, you didn't buy none of this. You ain't got no money. Your mama got the money. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see, I'm fly, boy. And I'm, I'm not. But I can wear my clothes money. Right. Yeah, you see, I'm fly, boy. And I'm not. But I can wear my clothes well. Right. So now, what difference does it make what I have on now? Because sometimes people don't even know what I have on. You don't know what I have on.

You stay laced. Gucci, LV. No. But see, when I was wearing LaHuehue, they didn't know what that was at all. Right. Just like on my wrist. I remember this lady walked up to me and said, oh, I like them clovers, them clovers, that cover braces. I'm like, yeah, that's all I say. Yeah.

Now you see, I was wearing Van Clees before everybody else. Now everybody, now LeBron, I remember LeBron when they got this one right here, right? I'd already had it on my wrist when he went out. LeBron biting you, huh? Yes, man, a lot of people steal my style. Oh, man, it's terrible, man. Now boys wear their shirt, they sure buttoned up.

I've been wearing my shirt like that because that's how my daddy wore his shirt. No tie, tailor-made suit. See, this is the thing. You go back, I was wearing tailor stuff when Jay-Z was still wearing jerseys. We go back and look at Jay-Z first pictures, him and Ben and Seagal with them suits on

with all that material at the bottom. When you wasn't doing what you was doing at first. I've been doing this. Ain't no bad pictures of Lee out there. They wouldn't fly been fly Like I said what they put this lady said Kendrick Lamar. Oh, okay that Um, the new style is Bell bottom down. I'm like the new style Bell bottom was in back in the sadness Don't tell them don't don't I'm 73. 1973. Don't tell them.

My mama had them. You know what I'm saying? I really think K.Dot on his new album got some lingo from me. Yeah, on the cool. Because he's not in that era to say squabble. Yeah.

I do my special, and I said, they in there squabbling like them, and then all of a sudden squabble up. I said, yeah, K-Dot got me. He got me. Ain't nobody gonna believe it though. But see, back then, it wasn't, like you said,

you win some, you lose some, but you went home. You ain't pulling no gun on nobody. No! You had A. You took your lumps, or you gave the lumps, but A. A. You see these teeth right here? These two teeth right here have been cracked several times. I done been hitting them out before. I always went home.

Right. I always went home. Man, you could tussle and go to the crib. Everybody ain't trying to wala like that, though. Why these boys can't tussle? Because they can't fight. They ain't never been in no fight. But then you shoot somebody, then you go to prison,

then you got to fight. Yeah. But we grew up in an era you had to fight. You had to fight your brother, your cousin. You got to fight. It's hard for me to believe that somebody in our age group didn't fight, didn't have at least one. Hey, now Marcus D. Wiley never had a fight in his life. Really?

Never had a fight. In his whole entire life, man, 52 years old, he's never had a fight, but he had other people that would fight for him, because he a good dude. Right. And I find myself do that now. He got all type of cousins and everything. Lil Larry go hard.

But man, somebody say something to Mark. I be like, I wanna watch out Mark. What that boy say? I ain't had a good one. I ain't had a good one in a minute. But I thought you- We done got too old Waller now, Olly. Who?

We done got too old. We ain't done say some Waller now. I'm about to do pick yourself. I got a grand, got another one on the way in a couple of weeks. Hey man, listen, it depends on the situation. Just let it go. You got too much going on the wall now. What you trying to bump with these kids, these young boys out here? Because ain't nobody your age trying to bump with you. Yes, that's the problem.

Some of these old cats forget sometimes. Hey man, you ain't had a fight since the 30s. You ain't had a age trying to bump with you. Yes, that's the problem. These young, some of these old cats forget sometimes. Hey man, you ain't had a fight since the third grade. I had one last year. It's so, so it's, it's, and then I got a problem. I punched a dude in the mouth in, in Arizona for saying the N word to me.

Black dude? White guy. I understand the culture and they listen to the music and all that and I told that man, I said bro, I am in my 50s, I'm a different era. Right. I'm not with it man. Yeah, y'all 90 babies, let that go. Man, listen bro, I don't want to do this it, man. Yo, y'all 90 babies, let that go. Man, listen, bro, I don't wanna do this with you, man.

And then he said, he said it again. I don't understand how they talk nowhere else. Anybody that's outside of this skin color, anybody, Latino, Puerto Rican, color, anybody, Latino, Puerto Rican, Dominican, anybody, because my grandmother ain't gonna understand. You didn't go through the same thing. I don't care what you're talking about.

Because you can go back to your community and pretend and do, I'm in this skin, period. We from the South. I don't care what you're doing up North. Come down here because I'm gonna tell you this, you ain't gonna say that in front of somebody that you respect. Right.

They'll never sit on the couch with Roland Martin, or Farrakhan, or any of these guys that they respect and be N-word, N-word, N-word, n-word, n-word, you wouldn't do it. You not gonna do that in front of my grandma and she don't understand. She don't understand me kicking with you like that. My uncles don't understand. I'll let you from this.

No, bro, you not from this. So when people get people passes on that, I can't do it. I can't do it. And I watch entertainers cower to these people because you not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it.

You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it. You're not gonna do it that, I can't do it. No, no, I can't do it. And I and I watch I watch entertainers power to these people. Because you're not going to see that's the other thing that sparked me up. Hey, bro. I know better. I know better, right? Because inside them walls, you ain't going to do it because you know what the problem is, it's a problem.

All that. Oh, I'm hip to the culture that uh, oh man all that Yeah, you ain't from the culture. You ain't from the culture. Yeah, you don't get no past No, I'm and I Man, I can't I can't do it. I just can't do it Just like good watch this What racial slurs do we grow up having for other people? Yeah, but we don't use them. No, I never felt because I had a white friend or I didn't have Jewish friends

until I didn't know they were Jewish when I was growing up until I got to the until I got started working at CBS, but I know slurs, but I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say it. Oh, just because we cool? Because that don't make you cool. They not going to tolerate it. You already know you can't use those slurs to describe the Jewish community. It's over.

It's over. So all this notion, oh, it's just a word. Well, if it's just a word, why can't we say it to other groups? Because it's not just a word. It's not just a word. But you they can say it to us and everything's more. That's just words. It's an unrecorded amount of people.

They died behind that word. True, behind the whole the whole system, unrecorded. They can tell you how many people died doing this, but it's unrecorded how many of us actually died in that slave trade. But then we got the audacity to wanna kill each other, or say the history don't matter. You know how crazy that sounds?

I do. Because we wouldn't be sitting here, you wouldn't be able to do what you're doing on no level without the sacrifice of our ancestors. Now I'm talking about the real sacrifice. It's easy to say whatever now, but what about when you could not talk? True. They would cut your tongue out your mouth. That's crazy. They would cut your tongue out of your mouth, but you have no type of honor for your ancestors.

They would bury a woman in the ground while she was trying to give birth for entertainment. They would burn you and chop you up and throw you in a river. But you have no honor for them. And you insane. You're insane. That's what's wrong. This I don't think they understand. Prison really made me understand.

Really made me understand. I'm so apologetic for what I did took in the streets I'm so apologetic. I Don't I don't make it light. I don't try to honor it. You don't try to glamorize it, but not at all Because I'm so Offent man. I'll remember being in Frisco Big shout out to Roy Woods Jr. And my man, Chris Cotton, Chris Cotton passed.

Man, I'm in such a dark place because we had this comedy convention and I'm walking from my hotel to the spot we performing at. And I'm there for days. And I keep trying to walk different ways to avoid all these homeless, drugged out people. Because it's just breaking my heart. And I said to myself, I said, man, what did I do to contribute to this?

Because this is a chemical generation based upon the people who I sold drugs to. These are they offspring. And I'm so affected, and I'm not doing well. And I'm talking to Chris and Roy Woods is telling me this story about what he's going to say on this storytelling show that we're about to do. about what he's going to say on this storytelling show that we're about to do. And it lightened me up because I was so depressed about my contributions to this.

I'm so, I don't think, I got a lot of remorse. Like people are like, I ain't got no regrets. I do. I regret ever picking up a 50 pack. I do. It's because the ramifications of it is so crazy. We're talking about people who We weren't allowed to read

Wasn't allowed to do certain things so how dare I come and set us back destroying More people more families. Mm-hmm. It's not one person's it's a family is going through this. You'll be impacted. So in prison... this is the closest that you'll ever get to slavery. I'm a judicial slave, and... I know it from the jump. Reading history, knowing history, I come in, they strip you down.

Okay. See, that man put his fingers in my mouth to make sure I ain't have nothing in my mouth. I got to squat, hold my butt open for the officer, spread, you got to do all this. You are, you, they give you a number. They shave your head down. Give you a number.

They branded you. They put you on a bus. They chain you to another person. And you riding for. Hours and miles. The bus is the ship. I'm still chained. They put you on a farm and you work. No pay.

They feed you very little. You in a cell. The... Man, they on a horse. Right. You getting mentally whipped, you getting abused, the craziest thing about being in prison was this. I wasn't worried about no inmates. I was worried about the officers,

because a lot of these officers, you locked up in these small towns, everybody family. Any day of the week, you could have died, and they could have covered you up. 800 miles from home. The closest communication is a letter. You got to wait for that to get there. They could kill you and say whatever happened.

Who going to find out? Nobody. You know what I'm saying? There's people that die in the county jail, they put them in there and they tuck them away. There's people, families down there that's dying. I do my best, if somebody I know go to jail, I do my best to bond you out. I mean, you got to fight for your freedom or fight for your situation when you're on

the street because I know what happened in there. Anything can happen in there. So I've seen people get stabbed up, up, up on, just left in they cell. Don't nobody know until the next shift. I've seen officers beat people up real bad, put you in the hole. They don't know if you in the hole. They don't know if you in there breathing or not. This is the closest to slavery you'll ever be. And once you understand this condition,

you don't want no young kids in this position, You don't want no old people in this position. You have a healthy respect for the ancestors, what they went through. Just what they went through. And to not honor that, to not be an honorable person and I have, bro when I see somebody of my same ethnic group, I'm always gonna smile at you. Cause I'm happy to see you. We frowned each other too much. that we don't even know each other.

What you frowning for? Because you have this persona. I don't have to have no persona of being tough. I already know I'm tough. I'm just like, I see, like you see guys in pictures, they not smiling. Why? Something wrong with your teeth? Something wrong with your attitude?

Something wrong with your heart? And that's the thing. A lot of people, they heart. Why? Something wrong with your teeth? Something wrong with your attitude? Something wrong with your heart? And that's the thing, a lot of people, they heart, they got a heart condition. They got black spots on their heart. What's wrong with the heart? What's the man, the community, and we still in the same condition that we were in the 50s. Same condition. Mm hmm. Some situations worse. And people think that they are better because you got some money. Money don't really make you nothing.

And a lot of people not putting no they're not putting no deposits in their spiritual bank account. They find out they got financial money. But what about your spiritual bank account? What about the things that the creator gonna count? Right. What about those things? Stop doing everything for show. Because it's not a real hot thing.

It's over for that, Olly. The internet doesn't ruin that. No, no. Shannon, no. I gotta make you believe that I'm something that I'm not. It's over for that Ali the internet doesn't ruin that now No Shannon now I gotta make you believe that I'm something that I'm not Why is would you like me? I? Am a like you period no you won't why not because they believe that you won't I know what you're saying But you see I mean the internet be something I'll be on IG to have me question I like I like you before the internet. But I'm saying-

When you were with the Broncos, I liked you before the internet. But if you think about it, how many times people take, go rent a car, a nice car, rent a house, go take, spend $5,000 just to go take pictures like they're going on a private jet? See? The people that do that is crazy. They are! It's like people who go on vacation and come back to Beals.

It's really not a vacation. Yeah, I don't understand that you take out a loan to go on vacation. Why would you do that? Because you got to be seen taking the... Hey, I could take that. First of all, I'm not living to take a picture. I do a lot of stuff that a picture ain't there for. Yes.

I'm not. Why do I need the picture? So what's wrong with the memory up here? Yes, it. My man, I went somewhere and. I didn't tell nobody why I was there. You don't need to. Let me ask you this. When you started selling, obviously when you were young and you selling drugs, the older guard feel

they can take advantage of you. They feel they can run down on you because you young. What'd you say you went to jail at, what, 19? So 19, did people steal your stuff? Did people take your stuff? Take what? Your drugs. Take what? Your drugs.

Damn. I went to jail four days after I turned 19. Damn, you didn't even get your... I partied really, really hard. I wasn't on the streets at 19. So my birthday is October 17. Right. October 21st, I'm locked up.

Okay? So before that, I got robbed one time. How'd he get the drop on you? Me thinking fair business. I dealt with these people before. Thinking fair business, I get there and they draw down on me. And I said, what we doing?

And people took my drugs and they put me in my own trunk. I had a brown Monte Carlo without pulling me out. And I'm in the trunk and I'm duct taped. And what I was mad about, I had just-huh, and I was supposed to put it back This is what the side back in there. I ain't put the tie back in there, right? So I'm in there uncomfortable I'll come on this time and I'm doing that doing bad, right? So when that happened That changed the whole temperature the game for me. So now you don't trust nobody don't trust nobody and

And I got them back Is that is that is that the mindset that you have to have that you really don't have friends? You really can't trust nobody in this situation because the moment you let your guard down and start to trust That's when somebody get the edge on you. I thought I thought it was on amongst these and Then it changed Out of nowhere, it just changed. Just like hip hop. Folks was rapping positive and then all of a sudden,

they weren't. Right. Everybody was selling, it's like everybody was selling drugs. But when I came up, it was all type of rappers, none of them was talking about selling drugs. Nope. None of them.

But one of your biggest advocates was your mom. Your mom bailed you out several times. Once. She... Hold on. Your mom bailed you out at 16. She put up 2,000. She misspoke the truth under oath. You bought your mom a car. I mean, you were doing a lot.

You put your mom in a situation, though, bro. Yeah. But what's crazy, when I was beefing with a particular ethnic group, these Colombians, we had a war with these people. It'll take me forever to get to my mama's house. Because I would never go to her crib unless I'm taking all type of routes, make sure anybody's following me,

getting out, going in places, coming back around. I was doing a lot, man, just to go see my mama. I didn't, I, and I stayed away a lot because I was in these beefs and these people would kill my family. Right. Because I would do the same for them. They didn't want me to know where they was at

because we beefing. And this is what a beef is. When you beefing, it's no safety in this. Like once we was like, oh, we ain't a beef, you ain't a no beef. You and you probably, y'all arguing with each other, but you ain't no beef. Because a beef man Is bad

Yeah Man kid people kill your brother kill your mama. Mm-hmm kill your cousins Just to just to flush you out Just to get you to come out That's the beef Ain't no ain't no rule ain't no rules to it besides to kill or be killed, but you don't wanna do none of that. This concludes the first half of my conversation.

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