Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Ali Siddiq Part 2

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with Ali Siddiq! This week on Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe chops it up with stand-up comedy powerhouse Ali Siddiq—one of the realest storytellers in the game. Known for his viral YouTube specials and sharp wit, Ali pulls up for a hilarious, raw, and thought-provoking convo that runs deep. Right out of the gate, the two dive into wild stories—from brown liquor blackouts to athlete altercations. Ali breaks down what happened when he got curved by Patrick Ewing for a photo ("That man hurt my feelings!") and clowns on Shaq still owing him $1,000 for sitting through his debut rap album. But it doesn’t stop there —Ali gets into it with hot takes about hip-hop. He keeps it 100 about why he doesn’t rock with Drake, calling out what he sees as culture jacking from Houston and saying he could give Drake AND J. Cole buckets on the court. (Yes, he said that.) He also shares a moment of nostalgia and love for the Geto Boys’ "Mind Playing Tricks on Me" and recounts the time he crossed paths with 2Pac way before the fame, back when Pac was rolling with Digital Underground at a rap convention. Ali holds nothing back, speaking on his decision to build his career in Houston rather than follow the Hollywood blueprint. He gets personal about his childhood, life behind bars, and how pain, loss, and survival built the foundation for his comedy. His grandmother’s influence, boxing as a metaphor for life, and staying rooted in community all shine through. Things get tense when Ali touches on a past misunderstanding with Katt Williams. After being unexpectedly blocked from re-entering a venue during one of Katt’s shows, Ali unpacks what that moment meant—and expands the convo to talk about joke stealing and respect in the comedy world. He doesn’t name-drop to stir drama but stands on integrity while still saluting Katt’s talent. And yes, Ali’s got something for the fans. He’s dropping two new specials: "My Two Songs" on May 16 and "Rugged" on Father’s Day. This episode is full of laughs, real talk, and major gems from one of the sharpest voices in comedy today. Tap in —you don’t wanna miss it.#volume See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. You would prefer to be peaceful with anybody. And if you really beef with one child just selling in the ring. That's my that's my thing right now. Man, I don't fight for free. Put your bag up, let's get in that ring, put that bag up. And whoever get the bag, get the bag. But we both can go home. Right. You may be you may be a little light on some bread, but you can go home. Right. And I ain't gonna talk about it. I ain't finna embarrass you.

I already did that when I took your bread in the ring. Right. Like with these young boys, hey man, get in that ring. Put some bread up, get in that ring. Fighting for free is crazy. You had some loss early on. yes, you lost a sister. Yes How did that what did that do to you mentally?

Yeah, I wouldn't I wasn't ready and I wouldn't I wouldn't but she older young in the you younger young you Yeah, my baby sister Yeah, I wasn't prepared Yeah, my baby sister. Yeah, I wasn't prepared at all. Have you been able to make peace with it? Mm-mm. I understand it. But goddamn, the pain of it.

How did she pass? And she had meningococcus is what they called it. The pain of it, bro, was very difficult. Like, it's still. Jordan, can we get some tissue? No, we good, we good. How old was she? Eight.

How much older than you and than she is? 10, 10 years. Love of my life. Love of my life. Like, I have a tattoo on my body twice. I'm to my, I don't think I loved anybody like that until my children. Okay?

This is the, I'm talking about them. At 10, she's eight. Lee, you really can't process death at this time. No, I'm 10 years older than her. Oh, you're 10 years older, so you aren't fully aware of what's going on. I'm 18. 18, okay, okay. And you talking about, this is the joy

of my life. Like, it was, to be a big brother. Oh, man. I would stop whatever I was doing to go pick her up from school. Walk her home and talk to her. Just being there, just loving on her.

My older sister, she was off in the Navy. Right. Man. Mm-hmm. My older sister was, she was off in the Navy. Right. Man, still to this day, you know, I love on my kids so hard because. That loss. That loss. And it's just. But you suffered loss again.

Your first-born son, right? Yeah. Yep. It's just but you suffered loss again your firstborn son, right? Yeah Yep Now was the cold that was some cold Shannon That was some cold And I found out that he was that he was dead. He was already buried and everything right? I was huh. That was some cold hardest me What y'all don't hold on time out look? Your firstborn. Yeah, man. What y'all done? Hold on, time out, Lick. You're first born.

Yeah, man. He passes. You don't find out that he's passed until he's already buried? Do you want me to tell you how I found out? Yes, please. This girl's on the phone with my boy G. And she said something.

I said, man, why you even talking that broad? She say, nigga, what? I don't even like you. That's why your baby dead. What? Bro. I said, what you just say? So I called. I said, yo, where my son?

Quiet. Bury and everything. Why did she say, ever tell you why she didn't tell you that your child had passed and that he had passed, there was going to be a funeral, there was going to be a burial? Why didn't she share that information with you? My homegirl, Jerri, talked to me maybe about five years ago. My son didn't even have to die if she would've called me. What makes you say that? I could've paid the bread for what he needed.

But you trying to be on some prize and don't want to call me and let me know what's going on. What? I've suffered some damaging losses that have shaped me to be a little cold-hearted and actually soft-hearted at the same time. I love my children, dearly. But I can't let nobody play with me. Because I understand how loss feels. Like, hey man, don't... Bro, go on, man. Like't, bro, go on, man. Like, bro, really go on, bro.

Like, I'm not really what you think I am, man. Go on, bro, just go on. So when people say things towards the dead. That bothers you, huh? Yeah. Yeah, that, that, it, that, that, it bothers me. Even if you're not a person that I care for like that.

If somebody passed and somebody talked down to dead. Make a joke out of situation and. That ain't cool. You're like, your circle of friends, I've seen a couple of your guys here with you Yeah, what have you learned about your circle of friends? What what is it? What is it? Like how do you determine who's in your circle? How do you determine who's your friend? How do you determine who you trust they care? I look at their character. I look how they all with their family. Mm-hmm Allen boys over their family. All them boys over there, family men.

All of them. I'm talking about the, you talk about some brothers who love their family, love their kids, love their grandma, love their aunts, love their uncles, love their kids. Man, it's, it's, love they uncles, love they kids. Man, it's, it's. So you got Dre over there, right? I trust him, like, like I trust him, trust him.

With my kids. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think that's the greatest honor you could have on a friend, when you can trust them with your kids, like, hey, can you pick my kids. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think that's the greatest honor you can have on a friend. When you can trust them with your kids, like, hey, can you pick my kids up? Can you come watch my kids? I need to go out of town.

Can you watch my kids? If you are friends with somebody and y'all kids are not friends, something is wrong with this whole situation. If I don't know your, I don't hang with no men that don't take care of his kids. You crazy? You don't take care of your kids?

You can't be no friend of mine. How so? We ain't got the same agenda. Right. I got somewhere to go. I gotta go get in a line. I gotta get that line and pick somebody up. You can trust Mark's daughter, Charlie, man. She come to the house, play with my girls. Man, ain't nothing, he know for facts, man. Ain't gonna let nothing happen to Charlie. Dre, I have Hassan, I know for facts,

he ain't gonna let nothing happen. I trust him with me, so why would I trust him with Hassan? Right. Rashad, man, his boys, man, D-Lay, he, man, man, he, we had a basketball game, his son, man, we run on this basketball court, the man hit one shot, we're on the basketball court games, game is three minutes in, we on the court celebrating, the referee like, hey, man, what y'all doing?

Please, sir! Please, sir! Come get this! Yeah, it's these... Man, I'm around men. Yeah. I don't have no boys in my circle. Yeah, it's tough to acquire friends once you reach this level. Because I look at my friends like, I judge my friends. I only really got two, I'm talking about friends. I'm talking about Ryde that we brothers, the only thing we don't got the same blood.

If the roles were reversed, they're in my position and I'm in theirs, they would treat me like I treat them. That's how I have to look at you. Ain't no jealousy amongst us. No, nothing. If you talk about somebody, if I get something or they get something, it's, let me tell you something.

I have a nice car. We have a nice car. Mm-hmm. I'm talking about, and gonna talk about it like, let me tell you something. When Marcus bought his Lamborghini truck, it might as well be mine, because I'm gonna be talking about it like it's mine. First of all, you don't know nobody

who don't know Lamborghini truck. But the thing is, you can see it all day. But my partner got it. I know somebody who has it. It's different. I don't care nothing about that man's car, You can see it all day. But my partner got it. I know somebody who has it. It's different. I don't care nothing about that man over there

having that mother. I ain't got no time for that. I don't know him. I don't know him. I know my homeboy. And that's what you like. My homeboy Bucky be sending me articles. I say, are you a librarian?

How you keep on clipping and sending me art? Bro, you got a job. How you find all these and sending me art? Bro, you got a job. How you find all these articles? He's invested in what you got going on. Homeboy, you see this? Homeboy, you see that? He keeping you up on it. I'm like, I didn't even know they did an article on me.

He keeping you up on it, as he should. You read, I read what you say, you don't like working with money-hungry people. Can't do it. Why? You're not loyal. You loyal to the dollar. You loyal to the dollar.

You a high gun. I can't mess with nobody who money-hunger, because you'll sell me out for something. You'll sell me out for anything, some bread. Just like I listen to, unfortunately, a lot of these kids that got bred, now you selling out the community for the bread. Whoever wanna sponsor you, you going with it. No matter how detrimental it is to the community,

you going with it for the bread. No integrity about what you're doing. I can't mess with folks who don't have integrity about what you're doing. I can't mess with folks who don't have integrity about what they're doing. Man, you know how hard it is to be an independent artist? Yeah. Yeah. My friends gotta keep me from saying a lot of things.

And then they'll give me the, my boy came and told me, he said, man, they'll never give you a reward. They'll never give you anything. They'll never give you the Grammy. They'll never give you the Emmy. They'll never give you any of these things. I'm like, why you keep saying that? Cause they didn't make you.

You're an independent artist. One of the worst things people say to me is, when you gonna get a Netflix special? Oh, I saw you on Netflix. No, you did not. No, you did not. Netflix had find every excuse not to deal with me. They last one was because I put out my own stuff

on a regular basis, we want our artists to be, hey man, just say you don't fuck with me. And that's cool say you don't fuck with me. And that's cool, if you don't. Right, but don't be giving me no bulljabs. Don't give me no, man, I'm a man. Say what it is, so I ain't gotta deal with you no more. Man, how you get voted the number one special and don't win the Grammy?

Wow. How that work? How you get nominated, how you get on the Emmy list? I've been on the Emmy list three times. They find every way to give somebody else that goddamn Emmy but me. You know what was, what was the Emmy so called that they nominated the Oscars and the Tony's

for Emmy award? That's the Oscars and the Tony need a fucking Emmy? Wow. Just to not acknowledge Domino Effect 3. But why would you? So, an independent artist wins an Emmy, wins a Grammy. Now, you turn the cycle of everybody else going independent.

They don't need the industry no more. Right. I'm not in bed with nobody. I'm not in bed with nobody. I don't have to answer to nobody. Right. I can put out 30 specials today if I want to. Can't nobody tell me what to do?

I'm my own man. And they actually fault you for being your own goddamn man. They stand against you for being your own man. And society allow them to, because you won't bring me up in the conversation. I had a lot of respect for Lil' Rel when he was on this show. He asked about the comics. You didn't know who I was.

I did not. And I knew you didn't, because after everybody else you made a comment, he said, my name, you kept going. I said, he don't know me. And no disrespect to it, I was like, he don't know me. Then then, my man, come on now, Godfrey, mentioned me again. And he's like, maybe I need to look into it.

But guess what? It's millions of people. Why would you know me if you're not watching myself? Right. I'm not offended that you don't know me. Now I got to get you to know me. Right. It's just something else to work for.

But when you don't acknowledge me and you already know me. Right. But then you try to give somebody else all this glory. And you, man, come on, man. Stop acting like you don't know who I am. Stop acting, just stop pretending, bro. Let me ask you, how did you go from selling drugs? Cause you say you got jammed up at 19,

four days after your 19th birthday. Is that when you got caught by the feds? Yeah. Okay, they sent you away for six years. Yeah. So now, let me ask you. That's how I stopped selling drugs. If they had to call you away for six years. Yeah. So now, let me tell you. That's how I stopped selling drugs. The judge stopped me.

The judge stopped me. He said, the judge stopped me, man. He's like, hey, no more. How do you go from being a street pharmacist, getting called, I don't know, you making good money? Oh, yeah. So you aren't going to stop her? If the judge had to stop you, would you making good money? Oh yeah. So you wasn't gonna stop her? If the judge had to stop you, would you go stop her? Oh Shannon, let me tell you something.

God knew what he was doing, the creator knew what he was doing. Hey man, I gotta stop this boy, cause this boy is, Shannon, when people talk about getting money. You get money? Man, when you show up to high school in a drop top blue jacket,

I bought a BMW. Damn, Frank Lucas. No. You try to break all that tension, tell you what. Hey, hey, brother. This is the 80s, baby. You didn't have your daddy to be a doctor or a lawyer to justify that.

Hey, man, this is the 80s. Folks was shining in the 80s. We was glossy. Texas was glossy in the 80s. We was glossy. Texas was glossy in the 80s. Not no high schooler. What? You think it was just me? So you think it was just me?

So you think nobody else? Memorial Day weekend is popping in Galveston. It's all type of cars out there. And with young boys in it. We no 10 at this time. No 10, ain, no 10. Ain't no 10, I need you to see me. You wanted to be seen?

Yeah, I'm flashing. I'm already, I'm in high school. I got to come to high school with the bread. I'm buying shrimp baskets for everybody. Yeah. See? You gotta get this shrimp basket. You know what I'm saying?

This is when you got that money. But the thing is, man, I got 84 grand and my girlfriend's house that one's and five's in a trash bag. I've been, I had already been getting money. Oh no, let me tell you something, Jan. I'm fresh, I'm talking about it. I'm talking about it.

I get out, I get out in these streets. I got 15 grand on me. That's what I'm, that's what I'm out in the streets with today. So you walk around. So let me, so back in the day, if somebody calls a deep, walk in the street and he asked to have 15 grand on him, call the cops. Somebody just robbed him around the corner. Call the cops. Somebody just robbed him around the corner. Call the cops.

Man, me and Herb is in this mall, flossing. I got 30,000 in my trunk, in this box. The people don't know that it's in there. I got a fresh 15 that I unwrap every day. I spend seven. I throw that seven in the drawer and I get another fresh 15 that I unwrap every day. I spend seven, I throw that seven in the drawer and get another fresh 15. Yeah, I got money out here, Shannon.

Damn, El Chapo. Yeah. Yeah, look, El Chapo. You was El Chapo for El Chapo. El Chapo wasn't even riding it. He wasn't running the thing, then it was Pablo Escobar. Damn.

Yeah. Man, man, man, I- Yeah, when you get bread like that, you can't start out. I wish that in Houston, we wasn't getting that money. I wish we wasn't, but we were. I'm too much. All, man, it wasn't just me. I'm the young, I'm the young boy on the totem pole.

I'm the young boy. Right. Man, it's all type of bread right now. We just getting this, man. And like I say, I don't glorify that. See how you brought me into that? You see how you brought me into that? I mean, you do.

I mean, I lived. I was chilling. Man, I had that fresh down there. Man, no. Man, you brought me into that. Soda. Man, you brought me into that. Man, I was chilling. I wasn't even talking about drugs. Okay, well tell them about the side chick that put that money on the books. Oh Kendra

Gangster Man out of homeclaw Yeah Give the solid. Well, you ain't good. You had a had the conversation, your book was nice. Man, I was good. I was good. I ain't one for nothing down there. You eating chips and soda? Bruh, buying Rhino boots, everything.

I'm down there getting it. I would fly down there. Why do you need Rhino boots for? Cause you in there. They get some sneakers. No, man, you had to buy some sneakers from somebody else. They didn't sell sneakers. Oh, okay.

Them little terrible shoes they sold out there, but the Rhinos, you would keep them boys fresh, you would dye them. Some of them would dye them different colors with the color off the M&M. Oh yeah, we fresh. But the thing is, your money, man, Shannon, we fresh but the thing is your money man Shannon. I'm tell you something Money money go fast in prison doesn't pay us

What it bro? What can you buy you? I mean you can only buy stuff. That's in at the common sense How much stuff they charge you $15 for a soda? How much stuff they charging $15 for a soda? I mean, I mean, can't stay. I mean, soup. I mean, stew. You know, I mean, how much? Okay. How often do you get to go to the commissary? Once a week.

Okay, you go once a week. What you buy? A case of soup, envelopes, toothpaste, nutty buddies, peanut butter, sausage, cheese, soup, canned soup. So how much do you get a week? Macro. Macro? You can bust a six.

Oh, that Jack Mac. Man, that thing's stank out of the whole bag. No, if I had your room, I'd smell it, man. I'd say, no, you can't bring that. That smell will be ruined. Man, don't do that. Man, that Jack Macro. Oh was in your room, I'd smell it, man, I'd say, you can't bring that, that's smell of your room. Man, don't do that. Man, that Jack Mackle, oh lord, have mercy.

Don't do that, man, you gotta make, first of all, you gotta clean it right, you know what I'm saying? Man, Big Brown used to drink the juice of that, man. Big Brown used to drink the juice, man. Man, you know Jack Mackle, the worst smell is. Man, listen, man, but the Jack Mackle, you talking about a filling meal, though. Because, man, you gotta put that soup in there, put that Jack Mackle in there, you gotta mix that up, cheese, chips, you talking about a filling meal though. Because that's, man, you gotta put that soup in there,

put that Jack Mac in there, you gotta mix that up, cheese, chips, you know, something, jalapenos. So how much is your weekly commissary bill? 60, you can only bust a 60. You gonna spend $60? Mm-hmm. You gonna have $60. But you, so, 360, 120, 240,

oh, you got 12 bands in the book. That shit last you forever. How? Bro, you got 12 bands. I'm in the county first. Okay. I'm in the county first, spending money in there. Then I go, I've been on six different units.

I'm in there for six years. How you figure that- You ran out all that money? Yeah, man. Did she bring most? No, she was gone. She just brought my money. Oh. It wasn't her money, it was my money.

Now, the one who had the 84, 85, she didn't bring nothing. She kept all your money? Every single dollar of it. Well, you didn't break off while you was out, did you? Yes, I did. I was taking care of that girl. That's why the money was at our house. I'm gonna break up all your brands. Every single dollar of it. Well, you didn't break off while you was out, did you? Yes, I did. I was taking care of that girl. That's why the money was at our house.

So she spent your money? Man, that girl went to college on my money. Where she gonna school for? Maybe you should hire. You already paid for the education. That lady spent my money. I had nothing. And when I got out, she thought I was gonna kill her.

But I didn't want no money from my past dealings. Just that 84,000? I didn't want nothing. You didn't want nothing? Dirty money. So let me ask you a question. Anybody that owed you money, you didn't go collect? Nope.

Sure didn't. I was done with that. Cause that's gonna put me back in the game. Right. Man I was really hell bent on being a better person. Wow. What was your favorite meal if there's such a thing in the can, what's your favorite meal? Like in life? No, when you was in there, because you said you wanted to be the chef, so you got an opportunity to practice on a lot of bulljai. Cause you mixing Jack Mackerel and soup

and cheese and chips. That wasn't my recipe. That recipe was there when I got there. I'm following already the recipe. This is already a gift. Ain't no new, ain't no new recipe. This only half. Now my favorite thing ever to eat,

we take the honey bonds, take two honey bonds. Oh, I love that truck driver steak. I love that truck driver steak. Honey bond and the nutty buddies. OK. Put them in between each other with peanut butter. And you bust that thing open. And you'll warm it up.

You'll have to wrap it up and warm it up in your toilet. Because you had a steamer, and you pour all that hot water in that toilet. It's wrapped up, but you kept your toilet clean. Yeah. Your toilet gotta be clean. And that boy get hot, and that sugar, and that peanut butter, and that little chocolate

that melted together. Yeah, I don't want that. You don't want that? Yeah, yeah. Now you going to the toilet to do something else afterwards, but man, that was a good, that was a dessert. That was a good dessert. Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead

and eat the nutty buddies and the honey buns. I'm good, I don't need them together, I'm good. Why you don't need them together with peanut butter? That's too much. How you? Peanut butter and honey buns and nutty buddies? Yeah, you in prison. What else you got to do, Shannon?

No, but that's too much. You gotta get thick in there. I was a big boy in there. Think 165? Oh no, in there I'm 180. Big boy. Yeah. Man, we played, you know we played football in there

like the season when I was on Torres. Yeah. Yeah, I was, we was on the Green Bay Packers. My block, yeah we beat y'all. Y'all beat the Broncos? Yeah, they was building four. We beat y'all. Y'all beat Broncos? Yeah, they was building four. We beat y'all. What y'all playing, tackle?

Yes, both would be flagged. Both would be flagged. What position you play? In there, receiver. But you couldn't catch. I never said I couldn't catch. You said I couldn't catch. Man, I was neon, deon.

Come on now. On both sides of the ball. Then somebody got mad at me when I said that if I would have started a team, who would I start with? I said Deon Sanders. Jerry Rice, my favorite player. Right.

My favorite player. But Deon Sanders? Yeah. Problem, problem, problem. You never caught no balls on Deon? Right. Prison terms, you say you hated some of the prison terms, like child time.

Child time, can't stand it to this day. Boss, any of that. You know why? That's what they call the warden boss? They call all officers boss. All that prison sign. Oh, so that's what they said on life, where Eddie Murphy is, what you call it?

Boss, he ain't working. He ain't working, boss. Yeah. He from New York City. That's where they're from, boss. They're New York City's. And that was really a real account of prison. Really?

They had a count time. I don't watch no show that depict prison and they don't have a count time. I don't watch no show that depict prison and they don't have a count time. I know you're lying because that's the thing that happens the most. It happens the most. We get counted the most because you get paid. The state get paid so they got to count you to see how many people there. That's important. It's like cattle. Right. So when you don't have no cow time, I'm like, oh, that's bull. And so when people, this is how you understand

what I was like in prison. Remember the scene, okay, I'm gonna ask you first. Who you thought was the most powerful person on life? Tiny. Nah. Oh, oh, you talking about, okay. The warden. Remember when Eddie Murphy was getting beat up?

Yeah. Somebody said, that's enough. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the most powerful person. It's really like that in there, huh? Yeah. Because people ask, how was I? That's who I was.

How you get that title you just got in? It take you a while to get there. Okay. You don't get there overnight, but once you get there, you understand on how you maneuver people. And what nobody gonna bother me? Hey, when you take care of everybody, why would somebody bother you?

When you once again going back to how I am in my neighborhood, why would somebody do something to me in Houston? Why would you do anything to me in the world? But why would you do something to me in Houston? I'm from the neighborhood. I'm a part of the neighborhood. I'm a part of the culture. So to do something to me, that's crazy. That's killing the culture. Right. Mahomet Ali ain't walk around with no security. Do you think like when you walk around security, you bring attention to yourself and people feel like no he think Yeah, but if you not loved right

You gotta be loved Shannon man and and to be loved you got a show love, right? You got to be compassionate to people The measure question the term Mexicans got on boot What does that mean? What do you call them, Ringo's? No, man, the Rhinos. Rhinos. Rhinos, them not the boots.

Okay. The steel toe boots, the boots that's issued to you, those state boots, that's, see Mexicans don't wear those boots on the rec yard, cause they going outside to play handball and lift weights and jogging, they don't wear those boots. Okay. If you see them with those boots on the rec yard,

somebody go down. It's going down. Make some guy on boots. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood,

CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming, how she's turning so-called niche into mainstream gold, connecting audiences with stories that truly make them feel seen. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. It's this idea that there are so many stories out there

and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Get a front row seat to where media, marketing, technology, entertainment, and sports collide. And hear how leaders like Anjali are carving out space and shaking things up a bit in the most crowded of markets. Listen to Good Company on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the fall of 1986, Ronald Reagan found himself at the center of a massive scandal that looked like it might bring down his presidency. Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir?

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Yeah, you know the work booth. They kicking your shin, kicking your head if you go down, but they wanna kick you in your shin so you can go down and then they can stab you up. It's terrible. It's a bad thing. But see, prison has changed a lot from what I understand.

How? They say they don't do all that no more. You know what I'm saying? Down there, they don't have canned goods. I don't know what they got going on. I've been to some facilities where I'm like, oh, okay, this is not a deterrent from coming here. I think prison should be hard.

Yeah. So you can understand. If you're going down there to a work camp, you're going down in the Cadillac, what they call it. Yeah. So you can understand. You're going down there to a work camp. You're going down into Cadillac, what they call it. Right. Um, man, that ain't gonna stop you from doing what you're doing. You, it needs to be able to turn. It needs to be, it needs to, it needs to be horrifying. Yes. But, but what about the people that said, man, but when I get out,

don't nobody want to give an ex con a job. So what am I going to do? They felt go back to the life that led me. Man, that's nonsense. Okay. Didn't nobody want to give me no job. I didn't give a damn about that. I wouldn't have got a job. You got to be determined as you were to do wrong.

You got to be that determined to do right. That determined. Right. Because when you are doing wrong, things happen. But you keep going on with the wrong. You gotta be that determined to do right. That determined. Cause when you out doing wrong, things happen. But you keep going on with the wrong. I almost lost my eye still selling drugs. I almost got shot still selling drugs.

That would've do punching. Yeah behind two rocks. Two funk ass rocks. A crack head? Yeah. Stole on you? Yep. But he wasn't all the way cracked

He's still crack hadn't taken his strength yet You got alone you bought a pen knife with a rusty nail nailed it two bags of coffee, but you got sliced doing a riot Mm-hmm Did you but you got sliced during the riot. Did you know you were sliced? Yeah, immediately. Like when you out there, once again, that's why I don't understand taking off your shirt. I would never take off my shirt.

You out there. Wait, the club, in the club, you know, back in the day, you had to take the club. First of all, you want to see people let you eat your yoke, they're like, oh, okay, I done made a mistake. Let me tell you something, Jam. If you take your shirt off on me, we in the club.

Yeah. I'm like, good. Easier for me to pop all this skin loose. Cause your muscles is not a deterrent for me. Cause I'm gonna tell you what, let me tell you what your muscles can't stop. This knife. You got a knife up in the club?

How you get that up in the club? Hey, ask all them questions. Man, no man, I keep a knife, I keep, man, ooh, man. Listen to me, Shaq. You sticking for? What happened to these? You remember on Friday, you these's, but you live to see the fucker. I got these, but if you got a crew of people, I got to stab up to a three of y'all because

you playing. You want to give me the fair one, I'll take the fair one all day. But I'm tough man Shannon, most of the time when I'm somewhere fair one all day. But I'm tough man shining most of the time when I'm somewhere, okay, like Dre. Dre got stabbed trying to get, trying to help somebody else not to get stabbed. Oh, no, I can't take that one. I ain't no Secret Service.

Yeah, that's their job. He playing. Yeah. Dre get out my way. He step in the way, he get sliced. Now the person who I'm trying to stab up, get away, because now I got a ten to my partner, I done stabbed my partner on accident.

He done jumped in the way. He done jumped in the way. But, man, I still keep a knife on me. Maybe I had to cut some rope or something. I don't know, but. Rope? Hey man, something, I don't. You ain't no carpenter?

Hey man, sometimes. But, man, what if you, okay, what if I'm somewhere, I'm driving down the street. I say, oh, that goes Shannon. And then I pull over, and he was like, man, I'm trying to get my stuff out, and I need to just cut out. And I'm right there, if I don't got no knife,

I can't help you. Nah, Shannon gonna call somebody, hey and I need this cut out. I'm right there. If I don't got no knife, I can't help you. No, Shannon's gonna call somebody, hey, I need this brought to the house. You got too much money for my help, man. Yeah, yeah. But let me ask you a question. Your cellmate, do you have to trust your cellmate? Hell yeah.

But you had a Mexican cellmate, right? Yeah, that was forced on me. Now, because I'm not really who I am yet And I'm just not getting there. Okay now once I get I get in the groove and I understand how things go Then I can make my move. Hey, um Say say cap and I need to get moved man Or you know need somebody in there black that I know I need somebody in there black that I know. You know what I'm saying?

Or you have a, I had a white celly man, white dog was, man, white dog was my boy. That was my partner. You know what I'm saying? Now white dog, he wasn't a part of nothing. He from middle of no desk or something, he wasn't a part of no airing nation, he wasn't part of no gang, he wasn't,

he just white dude is locked up. Short timer. Going home. Ah man, he ain't never want no trouble, man. Me and that man been drank many a coffee and what they call a prettis, you know what I'm saying? Coffee with Kool-Aid and the peppermint. Well, we ain't never, man, we kicked it.

So let's just say you in there, you got three years. You want you on a different vibe than somebody that got 15 to 50. So I got 15. I had 15. Right. You pull six. I'm on I'm on the vibe of I'm never going home. Because I don't know. Right. I'm on the I mean, a main listen. But you also on the vibe. I'm on what you want. Hey, you're going to be peaceful. I will be peaceful. Yeah. You want some bull vibe, I'm on what you on. Hey, you gonna be peaceful, I'm gonna be peaceful.

Yeah. You want some bull job, I'm on some bull job too? Yeah. Because this is what you gotta, this is what you have to be. You have to let people know what you saying. Do you have to fight when you go into jail? Nah, you don't have to fight.

So people just leave you alone? I don't think people understand. Everybody not being, everybody ain't messing with nobody. Right. It's too, some people come in there, do their time and they gone. Right. Depending on what unit you on.

You don't wanna be on no rock and roll unit. That's what you don't wanna be on. What's that? Where they fighting all day, like people starting shit with you. This own one all the time. You don't wanna be on that. Bito and Ferguson and McConnell,

you and everybody trying to do their time with doing your time hard. Nah, nobody wanna do that. You wanna go somewhere where people can see a future. Right. Hey man, I'm going home, man. I got something to go home to. I got a mom, I got a dad, I got a brother, sister,

I got kids. Well, people getting visitation. Right. You don't wanna go nowhere when nobody get no visits. Yeah. Ain't nobody get no visits. Ain't nobody looking at no pictures or nothing. Ain't nobody.

No. What's the number one prison etiquette? What's the number one thing that you need to know when you go in there? Respect. Respect. On every level, respect. Don't, don't.

Let me tell you something, Sean. This'll get you killed right here. Hey, man. Who moved my glass? I moved it. For what, though? You saw my glasses right there, right? What you move my glass for?

I don't want to sit there. What the fuck you move my glass for, though? They don't like that? Hell, no. Hell no. Hey man, what you looking at? You can't look at me. What are you staring at me for?

I'm just looking at you. For what though? You ain't answering the motherfucking question. What the fuck are you staring at me for? Hey man, let me look over at your ass again. You looking at me. I'm going to get up. I'm going to go to my cell. I'm going to up, I'm gonna go to my cell, I'm gonna take off my socks,

I'm gonna put that can of stank ass Jack Mac in that can, I'm gonna tie that ball, I'm gonna tie that in a knot. Yeah. And when I come down, I'm going to put a crater inside your head. For just looking at you? Hell yeah, because I asked you what you looking at. And you ain't explaining what you looking at.

You sizing me up? You think you gonna take something from me? What's your deal? Aw man. Yeah, you finna get paralyzed, boy. Yeah, this is where you finna be. Yeah. That's what finna happen to you.

Or you finna get life flighted out of here. You must wanna go to Galveston Trauma Center. Wow. Cause what is you looking at me for? Amen, people- That's the mentality they think if you looking at them, you trying to size them up. But I asked you a question and all you had to do,

like man, I've been asked that before. This is me. Hey man, what you looking at? I ain't, why I ain't even looking at you? In heavy thought. Oh man, I thought you were looking at me. Hell nah, I wasn't looking at you. I wasn't thinking about you.

Nah, I wasn't looking at you. I wasn't thinking about you. Nah, I wasn't looking at your glass. That's me. I ain't looking at your ass, boy. Man, it's all type of things that can get you messed up in there if you are a disrespectful person. But you learn respect very fast. Right. Shannon, what you, 6'2"?

Yeah. By what? 250. 250. Not a threat. And then walls, not a threat. Easy work. And I know somebody was like, how the hell easy work? So say you call, me and you into it.

You get called up to the third on this particular unit, shower, this is where we gonna do this in the shower. They gonna warn you, don't let him get in that shower first. So you don't stay at something, huh? So no. Okay. I'm in the shower. The shower door pushes in.

So in order to get out, you have to turn around and pull it out. You are 6'2", 2'42", 50. You in this box shower, when you pull your fist back, you ain't got no space. I got this pin knife with this rusty nail on it. As soon as you in there, I'm, eh, eh, eh. You in a mongoose hole.

I'm, eh, eh, eh, eh. Now you trying to get out of here. Now you gotta turn around and get out of here. And I'm I thought we were doing it with this though you six to 250 you bother me. I'm five seven. I'm scared And when they come when they come you know I'm a thing he tried to rape me And when they come, when they come, you know what I'ma say? He tried to rape me. You the poor, the family, you gonna lie on me?

He was trying to take me. Yeah, saying I got all type of alibis for this. He lying. You stabbed up, you can't say I don't lie. He lying. He lying, he lying. You stabbed up you can't say I'll let I know this ain't true. You made your silly sit down to pee. Hell. Yeah for what I'm praying on the floor Can't have no urine splashes on the floor. I'm praying on the floor Yo, sir

Santa this is the thing that prison made me understand this. Should the hood be dirty? No. The hood is supposed to be this dirty place for all these criminals and all. Your community, wherever you are in this world, your community, it should be clean for a mental state. Because prison is clean. Ain't nobody stand with no dirty celly. The number one thing we do is clean.

My toilet's clean, my floor is clean, my cell is clean. You ain't throwing no trash on the floor. That's in prison. So why wouldn't my neighborhood be clean? I challenge anybody in this world. Hey man, adopt a block in your neighborhood. Adopt a block. You know what that consists of?

You have to organize four cleanups a year. Give people t-shirts, fraternities and sororities and other organizations, give people t-shirts and clean up the block and feed them lunch. Take care of the elderly. Don't let these have dilapidated houses, is that how you say they were? Dilapidated houses. That's how you say they were? Dileppidated.

Yep. In your neighborhood, clean that up. Right. You should get the same hood that you claim so much, you should wanna clean it. Right. That's all it take. Was it tough to take a shower for the first time

because you're in there, like if you're an athlete, we know this, we go in there, we take shower, and it's 20 guys in there, we all naked at the time. But the only thing is there, we there to play football games. A lot of those guys there, they're murderers, and rapists, and yada, yada, yada. So when you go to take a shower for the first time,

what's going through your mind? And what's crazy is, I'm an athlete, stop trying to, stop trying to, see there you go, Shannon. So you know what I'm talking about. You keep, you keep, out of the shower, I haven't played basketball, crazy, Shannon, I'm an athlete. Stop trying to, stop trying to. See, there you go, Shannon. So you know what I'm talking about. You keep, you keep, out of the shower, I done played basketball, football, baseball. I know how to go in the shower, but this is different. Everybody in the shower and you just,

you shine, you on the team. I don't know these people. Yes. I'm not on their team. No. And you in there shining, looking all promiscuous in the face. I'm asking you. You looking for some action.

Ain't nobody looking for no action when you are athlete. No. What no athlete in there? Yeah. Look at this boy. Well you ain't even looking at nobody. No. Just in that shot.

You try to, you don't make eye contact. Well you make eye contact. You keep, hey, you talking to me? You looking by eye. I'm right here with you. That's it. Right here with you. And all of a sudden you go down and shift.

Ain't no shift in the eyes. No, no, no, no, no. You right here with you. That's it. Right here with you. And all of a sudden you go down, ain't no shifts in the eyes. No, no, no, no, no. You right here with it. You gotta get up out of that now. Hey man, you, I'm gonna throw, the play, we talking about the play. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? In the rule book, this one we talking about. Keep eye contact. Keep all eye contact and don't be getting close to me. Yeah. You right. Now these boys in here, showering, scooping over next to you, talking about,

hey, what you in here for? Kill them motherfuckers who talk to me in the shower. That's what I'm in here for. I mean, they really do that. Hey, man, them boys was wild in there. Them boys was wild in there. There was some folks that was wild in there, predatory behavior.

But nothing has to happen to you if you're willing to meet force with force. See, sometimes people, I don't wanna get in trouble, so you let people say things to you. I remember this dude said something underlying slick to me. I met it with extreme force. Extreme.

You ain't let it slide. Oh no. Oh no. Extreme force. So that's why I understand in Hollywood, people saying that people did certain things to them or said some things to them, or tried them.

Don't nobody ever do that to me. Because the energy I give off is it's going to be met with extreme force. Man, I was watching that, the fall of Diddy, and that man said that he said we coming to bring all the equipment in the in the bathroom I'd have been like what? I was like man don't y'all take that xylophone in that bathroom. Hold on, did it? Why are we coming in the bathroom to make beats? Like I'm confused. Yeah, we both. It's like when I saw the man talking about,

he came to, they doing the, being a whirly did it, whatever, and he came down with a robe on, open, with no clothes on. I would have whooped the out of did it. If I came down and you got your meat out and we supposed to have a meat. All right, you show, you know something, everybody out here, everybody out here.

Cause I don't want y'all to see what's gonna happen to this boy. You know what I'm saying? They gonna come back in there. They're ready to roll. But you can't fight no naked man. Shit. Kick your naked ass.

Nah, I'll put some clothes on. I ain't finna be tough with nobody. You gonna get your naked ass kicked. Man, go on and put some clothes on. Kick your naked ass. Nah, I put some clothes on. I ain't finna be telling nobody. You gonna get your naked ass kicked. The man go and put some clothes on. Shit, you can't even die here naked. You're getting your ass with what you got on. Hey, hey bro, put your robe on. Shannon, if that man would have told me

to come and do a beat in the bathroom while he taking a shower. Man, I hear certain things and I can't even believe it. Like in Hollywood, I wish somebody would invite me to their private part. I wish somebody would say that in a meeting with me. I wish somebody would touch me. I have a hard time going in the clubs, getting shook down. That's why I don't go.

Right. You don't let the frat down, huh? Oh, you talking about something that's sending me over the goddamn top. I'm on tour with Bill Bellamy, right? And, delay there. And we in this club in Baltimore. We on the flyer. So why are you shaking anybody down. We on the flyer. So why are you shaking anybody down that's on the flyer? We not rappers, we not none of this.

I don't even understand that. I don't understand nobody taking no guns, no clubs. So we getting ready to go into the club. And I said, Big E, are they shaking people down? They said, Big E know me, he like, man they just gonna pat you down a little bit. And I said, nah bro.

Nah, I ain't gonna be able to do it. But you gotta perform in the club. Nah, this is after party. Okay, after party, okay, okay, okay. We get to the thing and I say, man, listen, bro, I'm on the fly, I ain't got nothing on me. Man, we still need to shake it down. I say, bro, this don't really make no sense, bro.

Man, we still need to shake it down. So the bouncer's really adamant about patting me down. I said, man, nah, I'm cool. Man, we just gonna shake. I said, man, why you so hell pressed on touching me, bro? And I'm good. So I went and sat in the truck in front of the club. And why I was sitting in the truck,

because Big Boy, I really want to see Big Boy now, because he didn't trigger something in me. I'm like, yo man, don't touch on me, bro. So people come and I said, hey, your boy want to molest you when you go in there. Oh Lord have mercy, you started some bulljive. TSA. Yeah, I was about to ask you that.

How you going through TSA? Oh man, it's, I got the pre-check we used to just walk through. Man, when they- That thing go off? When that thing go, and they tell me, you got something in your head and you got something. Man, I ain't got nothing on me, man.

And it's so, I really- But sometimes they do be doing too much. Because see, I got artificial hips. So it's always going to go off. I don't even try to go through the thing. I go through the radiation. Hey, go on and get me. And that's when they flag me,

talking about you got something in your private area. You got something. And they're like, man, what are you talking about, man? And I really had to get myself together. And then like, man, what are you talking about, man? And so I really had to get myself together. Like I really, like it's a thing. I really have to get myself together. It's bad. What about sleeping?

Could you get a peaceful night's sleep? Wait, in prison? Yeah. Yes. prison? Yeah. Yes. Huh? Yes. You can sleep, what else you gonna do? Yeah, you gotta go to work in the morning.

They ain't gonna work. You gotta go to sleep. A lot of times I didn't have no celly. Oh really? Yeah, I had no celly. Why, you done ran them all out? Some of times I didn't have no celly. Oh really? Yeah, I had no celly. What, you done ran them all off? Some of them I did. Like I really wasn't with that.

And I have a problem with this now. I can't listen to nobody pee. Just the sound of it pisses me off. I finally got somebody with me. That's how I am. If I go to the bathroom, I turn the water on. I do that. I don't want I don't want you to hear me and I close the bathroom door.

I don't want to hear you. I'm talking about people think I'm crazy. I don't get what they think. I turn that water on to this day. Yes. I can't. I'm talking about it sends me. Mm hmm. See, everybody's mad, bad you doing too much, you ain't gonna ever get mad. My girl can go to the bathroom and leave the door open,

we having a cup, they all doing too much. The ladies in my family never did that. Like, they never even, like I knew that they probably did number two, but you never smelt it, dealt with it, none of that. They was ladies, you know, they- That's what I'm saying. Ain't nobody pass no gas.

The women didn't pass gas when I grew up. They didn't pass no gas. See? See? Women had a lot of class about theyself. If you a lady with them claws, claws and long nails, you look like a bunch of bacteria infection to me. That mean you can't clean yourself right.

Like you just like I'm not a wee person. I'm not an eyelash person. I'm not nothing that God didn't give you. And I can't do it. Can't do it. It ain't it ain't it ain't. And I meant to ask you because you keep doing you like my my my my in penitentiary, you know, you got it. You got some penitentiary stuff going on with you, you know, that wave to the side.

Yeah. That's the first place I ever seen it. Wave to the side. And I tried to do it when I had hair. It was in my waves going to the side. Can you grow hair? Yeah, I can grow hair. You just trade. So, yeah, I look better like this. Because during the pandemic, I look like Samuel. You just trade shoulders. Yeah, I look better like this. Because during the pandemic, I looked like Samuel L. Jackson when he was on.

Ah! A time to kill. Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! It, man, man, man, it's thin right here, but it grow. Right.

First of all, I don't like to just grow faster than this. Yeah. And so it take me, so what happened is I grow it, then I cut this down to where this is. So then it start growing together and that I look all right. But man, if I just let it just go. Do its own thing. Oh man, it's a piece right here that just don't work, man.

You had beef with the guards. You say the script searching and one you had, I forget you told me his name earlier. Mitchell. Mitchell, you had a problem. Cause he make you run your hands through your balls. I mean. Man, my hair just like the man say

run your fingers through your hair. Mitchell, you're doing a lot though. How does he even look? It's that. You thought he was effing what you did. Yeah, for sure. For sure. This man, he was doing this because I was a person

that he felt like got away with too much. While I wasn't a threat to nobody, I moved very freely. I worked in the front office, man. I'm not doing nothing. And I ain't bothering you. I ain't bothering him. So what you worried about it for? He chose to wanna be like that.

He wanted to ride you. Yep. So you knew early on you was gonna have a problem with him, didn't you? I really didn't know until that day. That was like I... Your first interaction? Really?

Because he never really worked out building. Okay. That happened when I was on 8th building. Right. You know what I'm saying? I came off of 7th building. Right. And man, some officers just be on some nonsense sometimes.

They just do. Dating in prison. You have pen pal? You ain't nobody say you don't pitchers? Man, my friends would send me pictures, but they wasn't, that was very early on in the county. Man, once you go to prison, you on different forms. Okay.

You know, sometimes you on different form. My mom would write me, my sister would write me, but it's no... You ain't getting no visitation? Yeah, from my mom. Your girl, you had no girlfriend? Man, the girls didn't come see you like that. And they did blow you?

You was breaking them off, you know, buying them stuff? Hey, hey Shannon, stop trying to pour salt in the wounds, brother. I'm just curious. No, you're pouring salt in the wounds, brother. Man, I told you the lady didn't send me none of my money. Okay, okay, she ain't, no, I mean, I can understand why she not send you money,

but you know, hey. Who traveling 800 miles or 400 miles to see you if you not with them like that? Man, some of these boys. But y'all, were you with her when you went in? Yeah, I was with everybody when I went in. Did they know about each other? No, I'm in these streets, man.

And so, these young girls ain't coming to see you, I'm basically a kid. These girls ain't got no loyalty like that to me. How did that make you feel, though? After you had done so much for them, when you probably needed them the most, like that to me, man. How did that make you feel though, after you had done so much for them, when you probably needed them the most, they abandoned you? I really didn't even think about it.

I really, once I'm in, I cut off like the world. I think the main thing was because my grandmother would take me to go see my Uncle Mac and my Uncle Alfred and she would go down to visit and I never wanted that. Like I don't want you to come see me. You didn't want your grandma to see you. Locked up, it's just like, I remember my mom, my mom has a picture of the time that she came

to see me at Torres. I remember looking just like my uncles. I got on white, I'm so black from working outside and being there just, and I looked terrible. And I'm like, I hated that. My mom came to visit me three times and I looked terrible. And I'm like, I hated that. My mom came to visit me three times, and I hated it. And I waited till I got close to where she didn't have to drive that far.

She can't see me when I was in Baytown. She can't see me when I was in Torres, right outside of, in Hondu, Texas, right outside of San Antonio. I didn't want my mama to go through that, like seeing her son locked up. And she said the times that she did, she cried all the way back home.

Because she got to come see me for an hour, then you got to go. Is this, was this a situation where like, when you're sitting in there, you're like, once I do this, I ain't coming back. Yeah, I knew I wasn't coming back. I knew I wasn't coming back. That's why I didn't behave in a certain way. Most of the mob violence stuff happened in the first two years, right?

Then I'm I'm chilling until something comes up. So you know, you got to have say, you know, something that's inevitable that you can't really stop. Right. You know, so you gotta, you gotta do that. But I'm really chilling and I'm going to school. I'm doing all the stuff. I'm going to cognitive intervention.

You know, I'm, I'm pooling people. I'm really chilling. Right. I'm going to cognitive intervention. You know, I'm pooling people together. I'm really chilling. Right. Unless something comes up. But because you really trying to acclimate yourself to what you're going to be like in the world. Cause that's when the really work starts. Everything that you say to you about,

you have to start doing it once you get out. Right. So my work ethic and how I was doing things the same when I was inside, the same when I was selling drugs, I'm really focused on what I said I was gonna be. I said I was gonna get out, I was gonna start doing comedy with no plan.

Like I don't have no plan, I don't know how this go. How did you, okay, you wanted to be a chef and now you're inside and you say, when I get out, I'm gonna do comedy. How do you go from a chef to a comic? Man, it's crazy that I didn't wanna be unhappy in there. Okay. So that's when you started working on your stuff in there.

Actually, I was just being, I was being the regular kid on the back of the bus. Okay. Jonesing. Yep. Just talking, like Shannon, aw man, it was dudes in there, all type of dudes big like you.

And I come in there, they walk in, I'm like, look out big boy, you know the NFL coming on today. Don't be in here depressed cause you ain't making it to the league. You see? They, they, man go They going over there shit league. I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying?

Because that could have been you. That could have been you. You know what I'm saying? You out, man look at you. Man, I thought of you. Come on now, bruh. If I was your height, you know what I'm saying, I'd have been in the league. I would say things to people that make them think about, and I say that really jovially, you know, being jovial.

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Like, they knew I hated the Cowboys. I would wake up, and this was the 90s, Cowboys was winning. Yeah. And I'm in there saying it like a champ, though. I'm like, damn, what? But I hated them Cowboys. You know what I mean? I remember when the Rockets, I'm going for them Knicks.

The Rockets beat the Knicks and the whole unit is against me. It's like three people going for the Knicks. And they couldn't wait for me to walk into that cafeteria when the Rockets knocked the Knicks out. I'm like, oh, this what we doing? I lied to you, I ain't gonna see none of y'all no money. See what I'm saying?

I'm saying. Now you got to hit her where it hurts. I got hit where it hurts. Hit her with your locked up ass. You know what I'm just, just being a normal kid, just, I'm still a kid. Let me ask you this. Were you a class clown when you were in elementary school, junior high school?

Did you know you had this ability to make people laugh? That's kind of tough to say class clown. I was jovial. Right. But I was too shy to be the main person. You know, I've always been a slickster. Right. I'm a slick talk.

And that's my thing. I grew up on the back of that bus. You know, you can't be on the back of the bus unless you got something fly to say. You know what I'm a slick talk. And that's my thing. I grew up on the back of that bus. You know, you can't be on the back of the bus unless you got something fly to say. You know what I'm saying? And I'm gonna talk about you. And because people talk about me, man, Shannon, but you gotta have tough skin.

And this man used to call me binoculars because my eyes were so big. You know what I'm saying? But it never really Got to me because my uncle's had already said these type of them my uncle Mac Came in he said me Okay, nephew I'm about to run down to Oklahoma real quick. I

Need you to look towards Oklahoma and Tim with that traffic look like I need you to look towards Oklahoma and tell me what that traffic look like. Man, what are you saying to me, man? I am a seven. Right. Like, he's a tough skin. A lot of times, people get into, I had a lot of comedians.

I had Bruce Bruce, I had LaBelle Crawford on. And a lot of times, people become funny, they become comics because I did, I had a lisp. And so to keep people from bagging on me, I would get on somebody else. And I would be like, I'm not because I did, I had a lisp. And so to keep people from bagging on me, I would get on somebody else.

So I got on them and they forget that I had a lisp or I had on something raggedy. So now they laughing at them. So that was my whole thing with the mystery. I got to get you up off me. Oh, Jan, you got that lisp and I wish, I wish I was on the back of that bus and you trying to say something. I cook you. Don't even trip. and I wish I was on the back of that bus, and you trying to say something.

I'm like, hey, don't even trip. Coogee Rap gonna stop in a minute. I'll cook you. I'll cook you, I'll got you on that bus. No, you ain't no way you ain't gonna cook me. Yeah. You too dark to cook me. Bro, you leave fingerprints on charcoal.

A 5'3 dude with a gap? Oh, you ain't no way you would hit me. Hey, man, shut it. I said, hey, man, he said he got something stuck in his teeth. It's a drug stick. Oh, I got you. Oh, I got you. Shut it.

Oh, man, you wouldn't have got me. That was terrible. That was a stock joke. I got you. I got you. But you got to realize back then, it wasn't stock. Then OK, but now, but you gotta realize back in the 70s being you.

Man, I already came in there, bruh, you would've got eight up. No, no. You know what I'm saying? And you got the raggedy clothes on too? You had on raggedy clothes too? And your clothes, Shannon, you just got a bathroom. Yeah, it's my bathroom, 85. But you didn't know that.

Yeah. And actually, it was 88. It was 88. Yeah. But you didn't was 88. It was 88. Yeah. But you didn't know that. You and your brother. You and your brother standing next to each other. I said, come on, Hershey twins?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you didn't know that. See, all the stuff that we had going on, didn't nobody know that but our family. But everybody in the family was in the same situation. You had, if y'all bathroom was outside, your clothes wasn't that fly. I would've got you.

Yeah. I would've came in there humming on you. They were like right here. You weren't having no nice clothes either. But they was better than yours. No, no, no. I'm one step up above you, and Shannon's like, okay, what you had on your shirt?

At least I knew what was on my shirt. What you had on your shirt? Just a shirt? Dirt? Yeah, it was just, it was, you know back then, Fierce and Roba, that was the thing JC did. You and them JC Finney clothes, I gotta tell you all. Tough skins. Oh, you know I had them tough skins. I already know you had them. That was the thing JC did. You and them JC fitting clothes. I couldn't tear you up. Tough skins. Oh, you know I had them tough skins.

I already know you had them. Yeah, Huskies. Man, first of all, let you go to came in with some black jeans on. Oh, hell no. Shout out to your neck it. We had no black, but you know, back then, when we was coming to seven, ain't nobody wear black jeans.

You wore Huskies, though. Yeah, of course. Yeah, you had on Huskies. Yo, you had these Husky side jeans. Yeah, I was a little, I was a little. You was Husky. But here's the thing though. I was small too as a kid.

I had came in there beat boxing. I'm like, come on. I'm like, come on man. You know you're part of the group Fat Boy. That's what I said. I wasn't fat, but I was, you know, I was muscular. I worked on a little farm. You know, so I have.

Oh, you had that country strength. Yeah. Yeah, you know, y'all different. Y'all are the boy. Let me tell you tell you I got cousins that's from the real country We had hogs and chickens. Yeah, like my cousin. Yeah, bail. Hey lift watermelons. Yeah, just just strong for no reason How did you get on comedy central? Because i'm i'm anxious to see how this comedy thing came to,

to where we are right now. So when did it start, and then how did you just like, or did it seem like it was a blur of you like, man, we had to grind it. You wanna know how fast this was? How fast? I got out of prison October 21st, 1997. Right.

99, I'm on the first, I'm on Comic View. Right. By 99. Wow. Damn. Yeah. You're moving fast. Yeah, so it comes out in 2000.

This is the first year that they paid $1,000. So I have been on TV. If people go back and look, I've been on TV every two years I've been on TV since I started. So why do people just feel like you just got, you just, I mean it seemed like you just blew up like yesterday. Because they crazy. Because when you only watching certain people, so I'm in season finale on Death Jam in 2008.

I know, I understand this, because it was a big day for me, because this was the same season finale for The Wire. You know what I'm saying? I'm on Comic View three times. Damn. And you can't go in there with the same material, so I'm doing different material.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Because I had a bunch of stuff. So Comic View three seasons. I'm on Def Jam in 2008. I'm on Bounce TV. I'm in all type of videos from Mike Jones to Juvenile. I'm in all type of stuff.

Right. Just going through the process of becoming what I am now. Right. So 2013, what you mentioned, I'm the comic to watch. Raymond, the GM of the improv, asked me to get in this Comedy Central competition. OK. I get in the competition. I don't even care if I win or lose.

I don't care because I've been cheating in competitions before. Right. So I'm like, I was on on Who's Got Jokes? Yeah. Now I get on Comedy Central, I win that competition. Wow. Right. So on Comedy Central, they trying to, Adam Devine has a show, they want me to go on Adam Devine's show.

I say, no, that's not really my thing. Right. And then Chase DeRusso tells me about this show. Ari Shaffir has a show, this is not happening. And I said, I looked at it online and it is a storytelling show. Okay. I go on there and do the story, Mix and Got on Boots, the prison ride.

Right. I'm on that three times. With Mitchell, the mushroom story, big stories, big views. Then I go on, bring the fun out. Then I get a half hour special, Comedy Central. Get the half hour, then after everybody got the half hour, they give me a full hour. 8, 2018. My dad died right before my special come out.

February 14th, he passed. Special come out on the 23rd, okay? If people look, I've been grinding seven for a long time. Correct. I'm on Bring the Funny. Just go, I'm on tour with DL for four years. I'm on tour with Bill Bellamy for four years.

I'm steady doing things on TV. I'm on Bounce TV. I'm on every network. Because people are watching only certain things, there's no place for somebody who's not a buffoon or saying untrue stuff. So I'm just constantly grinding. Right. And staying in line.

B.R. Burns told me, hey man, as long as you stay in line, you'll get your chance. Just never get out of line. And I never did. What did you learn from each step, each step in the process? What have you learned? To be true to yourself

and not have all this embarrassment that comes in the game. I don't look at what other people are doing and judge myself. That's why I have, I don't understand, oh, I need to do something because somebody else on the internet doing it. I don't understand that.

You know, like my special that's gonna come out on Mother's Day. My two sons. I do everything the way that I see fit. Okay. And when you do that, sometimes it's not gonna be liked, but am I here for everybody to like how I'm moving? I'm not moving like everybody else. I don't tend to compromise the integrity of me, the fabric

of me to fit into any room. I'm going to come into the room as I am. And that's the only way that I can actually survive if I'm being my authentic self. So that's the difference between me and a lot of people. I'm not trying to fit in. Let me ask you a question. Like when you go on these shows, these network shows, they're kind of different.

Would you say the audience is different than when you go to a comedy club? Oh, 100%. So to get someone to laugh on network television, as opposed to a comedy club, and it seems like to me, and like I said, I've never performed, but it does seem like it's a totally different audience. Sometimes them audiences are paid.

Really? Yeah. So a paid audience or you look into the audience and there's other comedians in there. There's other people that's just trying to get FaceTime. There's other actors and now paid audiences, the worst man. You'd be sitting there, cause they just on the clock. Right.

I didn't know that. Yeah, some of these audiences are paid Damn That's why I shoot everything live Really? Yeah all my albums you just think I have been having albums on XM radio since 2011 actually 2009 I got What nine albums? We got nine albums, seven specials. I got all type of, all type of stuff.

When you do Comic View and you do Bring the Funny, you do these other Comic, Comedy Central, you get paid for those? Yes. Good money? Yes. Okay. But you don't own it.

They own it? They own it. But everything that I produce, I own. Right. So is that you only produce your stuff now? I produce Marcus' special. Marriage is major surgery. Marcus D. Wiley put it on my YouTube page and it's not mine, it's for me to give back to him.

And that's what I'ma do for a lot of comics that I like. Cause if you don't want somebody to own your stuff, rock with me once I recoup my bread to pay for somebody else's stuff, you can have your special back. But see, what they do, what the network does is put all this money, like it's a special that I did for Commonly Central, like I never owned that half hour or that bigger than these bars. Man, they inflate the prices of what they spent. So how am I ever gonna get it back? And I tried to buy it back from them.

And they put it out on YouTube after the success of Domino Effect. Crazy. So I never get that back. Who was the first comedian to put you on? Man, on like what? To give you your break that brought you on tour with them. LaVell.

LaVell Crawford. That was the first person that I did a show with outside of Houston. Right. LaVale. And then after that, DL. DL was a real turning point though. That was a real turning point.

To have a friend and a mentor like that that you can call. That was a real thing. Then Bill Bellamy. But DL was a turning point. He taught me a lot of class. Yeah, because I'm looking at DL, Cheryl Underwood, Dick Gregory, Chris Tucker, LaVale Crawford, Bill Bellamy, Bill Burr, Earthquake, Sed, Eddie Griffin, J. Anthony Brown, Bruce Bruce, Mike Elves, Ricky Smiley, and Kevin Hart. Now, some of the advice that these committees have given you, I think Sheryl Underwood

told you you need to cut your hair. Yep. Ricky Smiley told you to wear a suit. Yep. Dick Greger said, Hollywood isn't going to be a place for you. He did. Ain't that something, He saw it early.

How have you been able to carve out your own path, find your own niche, stay true to who you are? Because a lot of times, if you're trying to get the bag and if there's a way I could get the bag, and not, you know, like, maybe I have to tell a different style of joke. Maybe I have to be different than what I originally planned to be,

but I'm really trying to get at that bag. How have you been able to stay true to Olly? I'm not about the bag. That bag don't impress you? Nah. See, when you not about the bag, if you doing everything for money, that's how I ended up in prison.

I learned the lesson for real. Well, I'm not sacrificing any integrity, anything to get a bag. I'm not. Because I already know what that feels like to only run after the bag. Because that's what I was doing when I was selling dough, just running after the bag.

To hell with everybody else, to hell with the honor of my family, to hell with the integrity of my neighborhood, to hell with me, to hell with my education, any of that. I'm out there chasing a bag to get what? Another car, a house, all of that nonsense. For what? Man, it's like, I have to take the advice of the elders

when they give it to you. That's what my book is about, applied advice. Okay? This man told me one day, and I took this to heart. He said, young brother, you cannot be all the way about money and material things. You got to have some type of integrity about yourself because it is. I've never seen a U-Haul following a hearse. Stuck with me.

Have you ever talked to Chappelle? Chappelle is one of the great storytellers. stuck with me. Have you ever talked to Chappelle? Chappelle is one of the great storytellers. I mean, he can, I mean, and it seemed, I mean, I'm listening, you listen to him talk and he's telling the story and you feel like you're there. What, and like, he walked away from 50 mil. You cool with Chappelle or you making a face? What's going on? Yeah, we good.

We've had conversations. Issues. No, we've had- Y'all have some difference of opinions? No. Okay. No, none of that. We cool.

I applaud David Banner for being a man of his word. If you tell me something, you got to keep that. OK. Because if I tell you something, I'm going to keep that. Right. OK. Don't offer me. something I'm going to keep that right Okay Don't offer me I Don't need you to offer me no nonsense, especially when I'm not asking for it, right? I Get salams to that brother

And That is where I leave that at Okay, Joe. Where are you on jokes dealing? Because that seemed to be a point of contention and amongst comedians. Stop telling the same jokes to everybody. Stop saying, stop being so predictable. I think sometimes people don't even still, Yeah, you stealing a joke. And I had to be putting in the realm of like, what is, like give me an example of joke stealing.

Well, the most famous one, obviously Cat, said he told a joke about a spaceship. He believes said took that joke and made it about a Cadillac. He told a joke, I think he's told it on comic view Thank you told it on comic view Okay Give you an example, okay Cats joke

Was about your car being And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, Right. Cedric's joke is about black people being able to drive anything, even a spaceship. Two different things. If I play it without no sound,

then you could probably say that, but if you listen to what is being said, it's two different things. One is Raggedy Carl. One is a spaceship. Now, I said to myself when I heard it that black people want to hear something bad about people so bad that they just willing to go with anything. Say it one most beloved people. Beloved. Said one most beloved people mm-hmm beloved

What did he steal the house can you drive something right if that's the case if this is what we're stealing Then both of them stole it from miss Laura off death jam That was the first person I seen Driving in the car right took a wig off. I don't think that was fair. I didn't think that was fair. I thought that was really in poor taste for the simple fact of if you doing an impersonation, you stealing. You stealing.

If you doing an impersonation, if you do a quote from a movie, you stealing? Mm-hmm. You stealing. If you doing impersonation, if you do a quote from a movie, you stealing. Well, it's funny that you say that. I've heard, read that you and Kat have kind of had some going back and forth. I don't know how it happened. I think you said that you were supposed to perform on one of his shows under card or something

That didn't happen. So you give us the backdrop of what happened. I wanted to hear you tell What? I don't think that I don't know if there's anything going on now Maybe you and he made peace. I got on the phone jumped on a call or something. But what transpired? That you were supposed to like it with a shreveport Was it someplace in louisiana that you were supposed to be on the show orreveport, was it someplace in Louisiana that you were supposed to be on a show or in Texas. So what really happened? To you, it's been some years.

So the best of your guesstimation. I'm well aware of what happened. I had been on the show. Okay. It was two days. I performed the the show. Okay It was two days I performed the first day. Okay, I Had already performed the second day I

Went outside to get my friend ghetto and then they wouldn't let me back in Saying that cat didn't want you back in the building. I'd already performed both days. So I didn't understand the, he didn't, whatever his response was to it, I didn't understand that part of it. But I never knew why he was upset about whatever, whatever the situation, I never knew what happened.

So me and you, hanging out at a party, you at my house, you go outside to your car. Right. You come back, come back in from the car, and it's two people at the door saying, Ali don't want you back in his house. Man, I just left, I was just in the house. He said he don't want you back in his house.

Bro, what's going on, bro? Get off my lawn before you go to jail, because I'm about to call the police, I don't want you back in my house. But I was just in your house. I ain't, nigga, you heard what I said. I just went to the car to get a cigarette. I don't want you to get back in my house.

Get your ass out of here. Get. The cat pay you for two days that you perform. I didn't even cash the check. He didn't pay you? Yeah, he paid me. I didn't cash the check. That's how mad I was.

I tore that shit up.. He didn't pay you? Yeah, he paid me. I didn't cash your check. That's how mad I was. I tore that up. Well, it's on you. Yeah, I didn't say who wasn't about to pay me. I'm saying, okay, once again, you were just in my house drinking, having a good time. You left your bottle of liquor in there. I done put your out. I didn't really put you out.

You went outside to get a cigarette, I ain't let you back in. The next time you see me, do you wanna know what happened? Or you just cool with just... I played out. I played out. So the next time you see Kat,

did you have a conversation with Kat? Bro, what went on? What what happened? Why would I was not allowed to get back in the building? We've never had the conversation It's never been an explanation. Have y'all not been in the same place the same city at the same time since then Oh, we have been in the same city We have been in the same city Would you like to have a conversation oh No, but see you awesome boy

What I'm saying is this What are you saying what I'm saying is this that would have been possible What I'm saying is this, that would have been possible before you lied on me after that, trying to make it seem like I was some small person. So what did he say? On Will.i.D. podcast, he said, all this, like I was trying to get on the show and he paid me for nothing and he the king

and all this other bull jobs. Realistically, Shannon, it's not even worth my time. Realistically, it's not worth my time, because like my boy told me, hey man, we ain't gonna give you no points for doing nothing to cat. He ain't even in the same league with you. I only spoke up when it was being,

when the challenges was being issued to everybody, especially Kevin, for all this, I play basketball with y'all, I rap against y'all, I box against y'all, I started celebrity boxing. Then when he said that, I said, it's all the celebrity boxing. I said, wait a minute. You ain't no, you got, you boxed before.

So? It don't work like that. Willie D and Mellie Mayo had a boxing match, celebrity boxing match. Mm-hmm. Neither one of them had boxed before. That's not true. So, um, well I'm gonna get you and Kat together. If you have a conversation, I'm gonna get you and Kat together. Have a conversation, I'm gonna be there. I don't trust you. You be on some bulls-eyes. And you know what I'm saying? And because you said it just like that,

and I agree with you. I agree with you. And I shouldn't be trusted. Yeah, no. Because I know if you own some unmanly with me, I'm gonna sock your ass. Nah, we ain't gonna do that. Because I know if you own some unmanly with me, I'm gonna sock your ass. No, we ain't gonna do that. But I wanna be, I wanna be peaceful.

Yeah, we gonna be peaceful. I do. Yeah, we gonna be peaceful. I would love to be peaceful. Shannon, listen, I promise. I look at you, you're not a man to me, I promise. Yeah. Because this is something that I would prefer

to put all the way behind me, but I know me. I know me. I'm not going to let this ride. Yeah, we're going to make it. Emmett Till happened because somebody lied on him. Right. So with, just like with Quincy, that man who hit me in my eye.

Mm-hmm. I've attacked this man every time I've ever seen him. I've attacked him. Damn, man, that'd be 30 years ago. I wouldn't give a damn. I still see double my eye because this decided to hit me for no reason. Last time I saw that man, he was on a walker in Walmart. And I was with my mama.

I told my mama, go to the car. What kind of bulljie are you on, man? You ain't supposed to do that to old people. You ain't supposed to do that to young people. You want to have good luck? You said what? You want to have good luck? You want to have good luck?

You trying to soften my heart with that one. Yeah, that's what it say. I'm gonna say this. I really don't have, like the man is talented. I don't got no problem with the talent. We're talking about cat, right? Yeah, I'm talking about cat. No problem with his talent,

no problem with his accomplishments. You just can't be on some, when you dealing with men, you gotta be a man. And whatever the problem was that night, that day, you could've came to say something to me. Right. But then to go forward and then talk down like, man, like I'm some small guy in this business.

Okay, if that's how you feel, but I don't think that you can do anything that I can't do. I can be on private jets, I can have an entourage, I've been on a tour, I've been doing all of that, but you know, me, you got the same braces on, you always got a couple of diamonds in, I got a nail too. Hey, I can't fly private.

I ain't finna tell nobody that lie. But you know, I like Southwest. Yeah, Delta of me. You Delta? Yeah. Ah. Delta too far. First of all, in Houston,

y'all don't do nothing but Southwest. We do everything. We do everything. Man, y'all try to fly. I gotta fly to go somewhere. I gotta fly from Houston to Salt Lake City No, we did everything everything from Delta go to Atlanta music for Atlanta Atlanta I know y'all see me me and Jordan Jordan. We got stuck in Salt Lake from Houston to Salt Lake

Delta on Delta. Why they see you Salt Lake Lake? When they go to, they go. Uh-huh, and then the flight got canceled. That's Delta, you would've gone to Southwest, they would've took you right home. Right there. Go on, get on that side, on the friendly sky, Southwest, baby. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

they about, they about to go to the assigned seats now, I don't know what they doing. Yeah, that counter call, I don't do the counter call You got anything you want to promote you got any specials coming out? Oh, yes. Um, I am dropping my new special May the 16th it will be called it is called on my two sons Okay, that's coming out and Marcus D. Wilder special is out right now

Marriage marriage is made surgery. Then I'm dropping another special called Rugged on Father's Day. OK, you know, and you can see him on moment first, you know, on pay per view. You know, I'm trying to do things big. And then I got a book coming out, you know, Applied Advice, which is a, which is a great book, which is about getting advice from people and actually putting it into use, not just hoarding it and hearing it.

Because people do that all the time, Shannon. You'll give them some advice, and then next time you see them, they still ain't use it. You like say, why you even waste my time? Why you ask for it if you ain't gonna use it? And if you, I'm gonna give you this. If you make that happen, I promise, on my sister's grave, I promise, I will not have

no hostility. I won't come in there on nothing. I'll be bon bon. I'll make it happen. That's my word. All is indeed. Thank you, Alisco Underground, Resource World Las Vegas,

for allowing Club She She to film this very special episode here today. Keep up with Alisco Underground on social media at Resource World LV. been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle pay the price want a slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life i been grinding all my life all my life been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle pay the price want a slice got to roll a dice that's why all my life i been grinding all my life you you you you you you you you you you I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next.

In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen. Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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