Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Amber Rose Part 2

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Welcome back to part 2 of our conversation with Amber Rose! In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with the one and only Amber Rose—a model, entrepreneur, activist, and media personality who has been a cultural force for nearly two decades. Amber opens up about growing up in South Philly, overcoming a tough childhood, and her early dreams of becoming an epidemiologist after witnessing the impact of HIV/AIDS in her community. Amber doesn’t hold back as she shares her struggles with homelessness, her early days stripping at 15, and her journey into the world of video vixens and modeling. She speaks candidly about falling in love with Kanye West, love bombing, and how Kanye styled not just her, but also Kim Kardashian and his current wife, Bianca Censori. Despite everything, she admits she still has a special place in her heart for Kanye and reflects on their time together. From her experiences in Hollywood’s elite circles to the harsh truth about the entertainment industry being purely transactional, Amber drops major gems about friendships gone wrong, co-parenting with Wiz Khalifa, and why she’s no longer a feminist. She also dishes on celebrity drama, from Cardi B & Offset’s public breakup to Draya & Jalen Green’s relationship. Amber also revisits the infamous 2009 MTV Video Music Awards, where Kanye West interrupted Taylor Swift’s speech to declare that Beyoncé’s Single Ladies deserved the award. She shares her thoughts on that controversial moment, calling it “crazy” that Taylor won over Beyoncé, and reflecting on her time with Kanye during that era. She also opens up about her struggles during the COVID-19 pandemic, including postpartum depression, mental health battles, and finding out her boyfriend was cheating on her during one of the toughest times of her life. Plus, Amber addresses plastic surgery, dating rumors, and wild industry parties, including what really went down at Diddy’s legendary events. She even gives her take on Drake’s criticism, Kanye’s controlling ways, and the entertainment industry’s biggest secrets. No topic is off-limits in this raw and revealing conversation. Tap in now!   #volume   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Is there an age like you gotta be this age and you can't be over that age? So is there a... Shannon, I'ma be honest with you. These 22-year-olds are on my body. Yeah, I can believe it. And it's, and I'm like, I'm old enough to be your mama. Like, I'm 41 years old. I don't care.

I don't even like girls my age. Ah, da, da, da, da. They immature. Very, yeah, yeah, la. They immature. Very, yeah, yeah, immature for sure. I'm just saying, that's not my thing, but I mean, there's some little cutie pies, but they're young as hell. So you say you're 41, so is there like,

has to be at least 30, and then I'm not going above 50, so is there like 30 and 50? That's my demo. Or is it 30, 60? That's my demo. What's the demo? What's the- It depends. It depends on the man.

It depends. Pen, huh? Yeah. Cause if I really love you, I like you, I'm a one that had sex all day. So you can't be too old where you just, that you just can't, you can't handle me. You gotta be able to handle me

because listen, I'm in my prime right now. 40 is prime? Hell yeah. I did say I wasn't gonna drink. Yeah, listen. Jordan, let me check my bag over there, Jordan. Yeah. Come on, come on.

Come on. Come on. But you caught criticism when you dated Savage. I think he was 24, you was 33. Yeah, and was that nine years? Yeah. Yeah. Is that the biggest age discrepancy

as far as you being older? Amber! Let me find out you passing out nine letters in Jolly Rancher to get these, come on! No, stop, you gotta chill. No, again, I mean. Guys like what they like. These young boys, I mean, you know,

after a while you just like, I don't know. You know, like, we were in, when I was in high school, and the teachers, they look like they look now. I'm not gonna do what I'm saying, but you had one teacher that she was like, and here you are like 12, 13, and she's like 25. You're like, wow, man, I can't wait to get, so I can see. 15, 19, 20, yeah.

Yeah, I can see guys. So I think that's what happened with girls my age, right? These young boys watched us for a long time and now they're old enough to pursue us and date us and that's why they're on us like that. Yeah, that makes sense. You see the situation and I think she got more criticism than you, Dre Michelle and Jaylen Green.

I think her oldest son is actually the same age as Jaylen Green. And you know, Jaylen's grown. And people are like, well, you know, groomed. She didn't meet the kid when he was seven. Right, right. I mean, come on now. Yeah. I don't know if you know her, but what do you think about that situation?

One, I think to each his own, and he is a grown man. Correct. I think that the outrage is more so that her son was the same age. My son, my oldest is 12. So if my oldest was 22, I may feel different as a mother talking to a 22 year old, I don't know. I'm not sure about that. But for me to talk to a 22 year old, I don't really care.

I wouldn't date them and be serious with them, but I have my little fun and then I keep it moving. You know? But I think that was the outrage, but I think they look beautiful together. Yes, have a baby together They seem happy. They seem very happy. Yeah, I'm looking at Al Pacino Al Pacino's 83 He just had a baby and she was 29 Wow, yeah, that's what I said too. Yeah good for her. That might be a bit but that might be a bit much ever

That might be a bit how much that might be a bit much, Amber. That might be a bit much. How much is Al Pacino worth? Probably 300. Well, good for her. Well, he definitely ain't going all day, so hopefully she on the schedule. Yeah, see, yeah, see, that's what I can't deal with. I can't deal with, I can't deal with that. That's too old for me.

I mean, god, Lee, I mean, well, you have to get somebody in his 20s or early 30s. That's not true. 40s and 50s, put it out. There's medications. Yeah, okay, medication, medication, medication, medication. Shout out to Rose Sparks. Let me ask you this.

Yeah. When someone shares dating your youngest son's father. Yes. You'll be okay with, like, when other celebrities date people that you once dated, you'll be okay with that? You're like, you're trying to beat me or something like that.

Do you get upset with it? Well, I mean, if you look at my track record, all my exes dated bad bitches after me. I was their initial bad bitch. And then bad bitches wanna date them because I dated them. That's just how the game goes. But they can't see you though. What you mean?

The ones they dating after you ain't you. They try to replace you. If that's your opinion, I'll take it. I'm not finna say that. Okay. You know, but God bless them. Look, when it comes to my children, as long as my children are happy, I grew up with step-parents. I know how it is to have step-parents or my mom was dating people and stuff like that.

I don't feel no type of way. As long as these women are nice to my children, that's all I care about, honestly. All the other stuff is, it means nothing to me. But why do people try to get in the way when someone is dating someone older? Be it the man dating a younger woman or the woman dating a younger man. Why do people always try, why they can't just be happy for them? I mean, that's not your life. Yeah. Why do you care?

Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, you know how the internet is. Everyone has an opinion. Everyone has something to say about them. And they think their opinion matters too. It does not. Cause I'll tell you, when I got canceled cause I endorsed Donald Trump.

Right. When I'm out in the street, I'm not canceled. Everybody still wants pictures. Everybody's to me. I still go do charity softball games, give out autographs, show up here, there, and there. You would think it never even happened on the internet. So the internet is fake. It's just the loudest.

They make the most noise. It's all f***ed. It is. I had to learn that in a hard way because I was thinking because everybody's had something negative to say, Amber. And I was like, damn. But then my sister said, Shannon, do you think you could beat me? I had to learn that in a hard way because I was thinking because everybody's had something negative to say Amber and I was like Damn, but then my sister said Shannon. Do you think you could be where you are?

Yes, only SPN you did you got club Shasha? You got nightcap? You got all these sponsors and advertisers Do you actually think you could be this if all these people hated you? Exactly, and once you really think about it, no. Everybody that can talk about you or me on the internet, when they see us, they would ask us for a picture and they would be excited. Not one person I've met in the last three years since I've been on my own have ever said anything

that somebody said to me on the internet. That's what I'm saying. It's all fake. It's all fake outrage. And you sit at home and you read it, and you're just like consumed with it. You get all nervous and then you go out. You're like, no one really gives a shit.

They don't care. Give me some relationship advice. What's the best relationship advice you can give me, Amber? I'm hurting right now. You hurting right now? I'm hurting right now. Opal hustled hard. You trying to get somebody back?

Hell, I might be trying to get somebody. Oh, you trying to get somebody?? Hell I might be trying to get somebody. Are you trying to get somebody? Yeah, I'm just trying to hook it up. I would say be a genuine person. Don't be a liar. Okay. Don't be a love bomber. Okay Spend some money. Girls like money Shannon. They do? Yes. Oh poor hustler. I ain't got it like that ever. You got it like that. You been, you got had club shay-shay for three years, you're fine. Um, yeah, if you have money,

you gotta spend money on girls. If you want an upper echelon type of girl, you have to spend money. How much? Enough. Nothing crazy, but you gotta take the girl shopping. You gotta be like yo I was do I gotta go no, okay? You do not okay? I was thinking about you

I bought you a Chanel bag or a Birkin. I just think Birkin Chanel bag is fine. Okay. Yeah early on early on is fine. You know, Burkett's, they started like 12, 15, ever? Chanel bags do too, though. Chanel bags are up there as well. Shannon, now you got it. Don't sit here and act like that. Don't be cheap. Girls don't like that.

You gotta spend that money. Man, I'm gonna have to put two N's in Chanel. You'll get it from, what's that website? T-MU, T-MU. Or Alibaba. Right. Public breakups. You know you date public, you gotta break up public. And it's bad.

And it's really bad now between Cardi and Offset. How, if you're in a situation like that, would you go back and forth with your ex online? I would not, but some people feel the need to. Why? I also think I've been famous much longer than Cardi. Yeah. I think when you're newly famous you do feel like you have to explain to the internet. So you, I've taken plenty of L's on the internet because I just didn't explain myself. They've associated me with men that I never even met in my life. I'm not going to sit here all day and dwell on this. They're going to do it anyway, whatever. But she does,

she feels the need that she has to defend herself. I'm actually not mad at it. I look back and be like, damn, it's kind of inspiring that she does that. I kinda wish I did that early on. Well, when you and Kanye broke up, he had something, a song to say, and he said something really negative about you.

And I felt that he could just move. What is that? He said that he had to take a bath or something. You remember that? I remember that he could like just he said that he had like somebody had to take a bath or something I didn't you remember that That didn't make couldn't have made you feel good well listen I'll tell you something Shannon Men that are in new relationships Sometimes they have to say mean things about their ex so their girlfriend

Sometimes they have to say mean things about their ex so their girlfriend, their current girlfriend doesn't feel bad about himself. Nah, nah, I ain't feeling the problem. I ain't feeling the problem. Nobody up by talking down to somebody else. You do it. Psychologically, she anger, like that's what they do. So the girl can be like, yeah, yeah, talk shit about her

so it makes me feel good. I'm not an insecure, if a man said that about his ex, I'd be like, you spent two years with her. You took her all around the world. You bought her everything she wanted. She knows your whole family. His aunties and cousins, they still hit me in DMs and call me and text me. Years and years later, checking on me and my kids. So I was good enough for you to be with, it's not like me and Kanye were, we were together in a relationship for two years.

You know what I'm saying? So to say that about me is, that wasn't cool. Did you hit him up and say, bro, why you do that? Well, for what? For what? I'm not hitting that man up. He knows what, one day I'll get my apology. One day he'll come out and be like I should have never said that dumbass shit But that's why I said he likes fingers in his booty. Oh because it what it just like

But I didn't say that as a factual statement I said it because it's like you want to hurt my feelings I'm just gonna hurt your feelings. So, you know, it was childish and it was immature, but 30 showers is crazy. When I didn't even have sex with you unprotected until you got tested, your Kanye West and I made you get tested before we had unprotected sex. So how you got to take 30 showers after me,

I wasn't the one out cheating and doing dumb. I didn't do anything. Damn. You know? I do know. Let me ask you this, what about these rumors, you know, there's a Chris Rock rumor, there was a rumor with CJ Stroud,

and then this rumor, last rumor, Iman Shumpert, because I think they photographed you on the beach. Yeah, Iman is lit, I call Iman to hookpert because I think they photograph you on the beach. Yeah, Iman is lit. I call Iman to hook me up with other guys. That's my dog. Like Iman is like literally one of my best friends. So me and Iman have nothing going on. We never had nothing going on.

CJ Straub was nice enough to give me a ride home. I was in Houston. My assistant's from Houston. He went to go visit his mom, and I didn't have anybody with me. I was supposed to take the sprinter back to the hotel for this charity game last year. And the sprinter left me. So CJ was like, I live in Houston. I don't mind giving you a ride back to the hotel. I'm not going to leave you here to get an Uber. And I was like, thank you. I appreciate it. Took me to the hotel, we're all over the internet the next day.

So it's just like things like that, it makes my life tough because let's say I am pursuing a man or somebody likes me. And you see that. They're like, ah, this is everybody. You know? It's just not what's happening at all. Wow.

Yeah. My beautiful dark twisted fantasy album. Yeah. That was about you, huh? You gotta ask him that. I mean, I mean. That's what people say. He was making good music when he was with you.

He might need to get back. They all make good music with me. I mean, I'm saying he need to come on back. You know? Oh no, no, he don't need to come back. Yeah, he didn't come back. He need to come back. Amber, the music. No, no, no. I'll be Oh no, no, he don't need to come back. Yeah, he didn't come back. He need to come back. Amber, that music.

No, no, no. I'll be his friend, but I don't. On the blame game, Amber Rose on the blame game song, what were you trying to say? Who? You. I say nothing on that song. You say, Jeezy taught me the blame game skit.

Oh, that's not me. Yeah. No, it's not. CJ. No, the internet says that's not me. Yeah. No it's not. CJ. No the internet says that it's me. Oh so they lie to you. The producer is right. Right. That is not me. Okay. Just like the internet said he found me in a strip club to save my life. That did not happen. He rescued you. He rescued. No. When Kanye jumped up on that stage and took that mic from Taylor Swift. Yeah. What was going through your mind? I was like, holy.

Did you have any idea he was gonna do that? No, no, I had no idea. I had no idea he was gonna do that. And he was so fast. He was like sitting right here. And then I think it was like Beyonce and Solange and like were sitting next to me on this side. And he was so fast.

And you know, even to this day, I saw people like, he was wrong for taking Taylor's moment. Yes. I agree with that. Was he wrong in what he said? No, he was not wrong. And I think over time being famous, you see a lot of things that are just not okay.

And they use celebrity as pawns in their weird little game. Right. And he was just fed up. And when he got off the stage, he was instantly remorseful. He apologized to Taylor and her mom. It's over though, you can't apologize for that. I mean, you can apologize. I get it, I get it.

But at that moment. Yeah, I get it. To have, I don't know if we've ever seen, it's kind of like a protest and we've seen politicians and somebody throw a pie in their face or put egg and things like that. But to be at the Grammys, that's her, and the fact that I think I might have been her first.

It was the MTV Awards. And I might have, yeah, well she won what? Album of the Year or something of the year? She won video. Video of the Year, yeah. She won video of the year over Beyonce's Single Ladies. That's kind of crazy, Shannon, come on. It is crazy, but.

And I love Taylor Swift. She's always been very nice to me and my children, but Beyonce should have won. And sometimes... But that wasn't his place. It was not his place. If Beyoncé jump up on stage and snatch the microphone, I can live with that. But not him.

I agree with you. What was the ride home like? But two things could be true. You know what I'm saying? So on the ride home, was it quiet? It was like, damn, Kanye, I think you might've messed up on this one. What was the ride home like?

Well, if I remember correctly, he was on the phone with people. Crisis managers. I think people were just like, why didn't you just do that? But then we went to the spotted pig and we were having a good time and he did feel bad. You know, like, it's hard for me

because I do have a place in my heart for Kanye. You do? Where I know the good side of him. I've experienced the good side of him. But when he surrounds himself with people that just feed the dark side of him, but when he surrounds himself with people that just feed the dark side of him, he's not living at his full potential. So I feel bad when I see things that he does sometimes

and I'm like, you don't have somebody around you that's maternal in a way that's gonna, they're gonna sit you down and love on you and get you to do the right things, you know? Do you believe he's a different person after his mom died? How much impact did that have on him? Because everybody seemed to believe that from the moment that happened, that he's been a very different Kanye West. So I haven't had the pleasure of meeting his mom. I've met Kanye after his mom passed.

But I will tell you from experience, my mother lost her mother at a young age. So when I did get with Kanye, I knew how to take care of him because I had always taken care of my mother. And so he wasn't acting like that with me, Shannon. He wasn't that guy. He did the MTV s***, but he wasn't acting like how he's acting now when he was with me he wasn't doing that because I was sitting him down and talk to him and you know

Tell him to go in the other room and take a picture of his mom and speak to her and tell her About your day and tell her how much you miss her and light some candles and cry and it's okay You know, I don't think he has anybody around him. That's really tell her how much you miss her and light some candles and cry and it's okay, you know? I don't think he has anybody around him that's really, I don't know, just loving on him, just loving on him the proper way. That's just me from the outside looking in. That's just how I feel.

When you see Kanye today, what are your thoughts? Again, I think that he has enablers around him that don't actually care about him. That's what it looks like to me. I don't have inside information on what's going on in that camp. But just looking from the outside and that's what it looks like to me.

When you see Kanye and his wife, I don't know if it's his ex-wife, the reports that they're getting divorced, so forth and so on, let's just say for the sake of argument, they are together. And you see how she's dressing. Is that she's dressing like that

or Kanye dressing her like that? Kanye's for sure dressing her like that. Yeah, he did the same thing to me and Kim. This is who he is. Why is he like, I mean, obviously you're a very statuesque woman. You have curves, you're very figured. What is it about that that he wants the world to know,

look at my woman? We can see. He wants other men to want to fuck his woman. That's what he's into. He likes that. He likes that men are drooling over his woman. That's what he's into. He likes that. He likes that men are drooling over his woman. That's what he's into. I mean, yeah, I mean, I like to think anybody that I'm with that somebody wants her, if hell don't nobody want her but me, I need to reassess.

I need to reassess what I'm doing. Right. But to really like, man, I want... says what I'm doing. Right. But to like, to really like, man, I won't. Yeah, he wants all his friends to want his girlfriend. He wants everybody that when you walk in a room, that his girlfriend or wife is the most desirable in the room.

She the baddest bee in the room. That's what he likes. Yeah. And you dress like that because that's what he wanted. You want to please your man. I was young and I'm going to tell Kanye no. When I'm that young, it's like, okay, you're buying me this stuff. I do look pretty and cool, but Shannon, now if you look at old pictures of me when I'm

dating Kanye, but I'm out by myself, I have all his clothes on. I have baggy jeans on, T-shirt, big ass jacket, I raid in his closet. When he wasn't home, I would wear all his stuff because I used to hate to dress like a whore. Basically. I used to hate it. So I used to rebel when he wasn't home

and I would go in his closet. So let me ask you this. Ideally, how does Amber Rose like to dress? Is the occasion appropriate? So if I'm going to the Grammys or I'm going to someplace else, I'm gonna dress appropriate. But when I'm just hanging out with my girls,

I'm saying you're not wearing all that stuff. No, I'm in sweatpants. I'm in a sweatsuit, usually with some Jordans on, maybe a little dad hat or something. I'm in sweatpants. I'm in a sweatsuit, usually with some Jordans on. Maybe a little dad hat or something. I'm very casual. Would you, I mean, I don't think you have, you did. I mean, I think you did have one of those see-through dresses that Kanye put his wife in at one point in time.

Yes, I did. Amber. I cried. Really? Yes, I did. I remember crying. I was in like Italy or Paris or something, and I remember crying and arguing with him and being like, I don't want to wear this.

I don't want to wear it. You don't understand this fashion. I'm a genius. You know how he is. And it's like, okay, I still don't want to wear it, but I wound up wearing it. They ate me up on the internet. They ate you up.

They ate me up. And then I'm like. The guys would try to eat you up too. The guys loved it. The guys loved it. I was like, oh my God, I really just don't. Was that something you, as you look back, that was many, many years ago.

It was. If that was something you'd do again, you'd never do anything like that again. What where where something like that? No, but that because that now that was prior kids It was so you got kids now. So you guys like now I got boys now. I can't do that Yeah, so I'm actually on only fans, right? Okay, and so I know only fans has like this stigma of like porn, right? I am on only fans. I'm doing cute pictures Selfies I'm talking to my fans. Hey, what are you doing OnlyFans, I'm doing cute pictures, selfies, I'm talking to my fans, hey, what are you doing today? Oh, I'm going on Club Shae Shae today,

make sure you tune in next week, blah, blah. That's my OnlyFans. I make a lot of money on OnlyFans. Feet pick? No, I don't do feet pick. You don't do no feet? No, I mean, everybody got their price. Somebody asks for a feet pick,

it depends on what they want to pay me out, then my fee, who cares. But yes, because I have children, there's certain things that I just will not do because I respect and love my boys. You are a model for Louis Vuitton, Ford Models, Vogue, Walk the Runway at New York Fashion Week. How is that work?

What is it like to be a model? Because I think, you know, what is that world like? I would like to go to Fashion Week in Paris. I'd like to go sit model? Because I think, you know, what is that world like? I would like to go to Fashion Week in Paris. I'd like to go sit down and see a Tom Ford show or Dior, whatever the case may be. I'd like to see one of those shows. What's that world like, Amber?

I personally don't like it. Really? It's not my thing. Shannon, I'd rather have a barbecue with some loud music and be with my friends and like Dance and just have a good time with no phones and just chill out. Mm-hmm. I'm that girl, right? Fashion week is very superficial Although I love brands. I'm wearing bomb on But I look at the shoulder pads. I'm like, that's something I probably should know

But I look at the shoulder pads. I'm like, that's something I probably should know So don't get me wrong I I like Certain things within fashion, but I do not like the fashion world. Okay, most of the people are ugly Yeah, there's ugly on the inside too you know, they're just ugly people on the inside because it's not about who you are as a person, it's about what you have on and only what you have on. So it becomes very dark over there because no one is actually real. It's like, what did you have to do to put this $8,000 outfit on? What did you have to do to get that?

You know? And that's all they care about out there. So it's just not really my world. Wow. Is modeling really a cutthroat business? It is. It is very much. It's like every other business. It's like, depends on who you're with.

Damn. What, you know, what connection you have. It's all the same. it's all the same. Did you ever interact with Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks? Did you ever meet, oh, they were a little before you. Way before me, like 20 years before me. Okay. I got something.

Cause this seems to be like the last year and a half there's been all this talk about these Hollywood parties. Let's talk about it. Amber, what's really all this talk about these Hollywood parties. Let's talk about it. Amber, what's really going on? I don't know. You ain't never been about to these Hollywood Hollywood. I've been to probably everyone. I've been to every puff party.

I've been to every white party since 2009. I've been to every party and. You just go in the wrong. You in the right room about the wrong room I don't think there's rooms and I'm gonna be honest now look I'm gonna be very very transparent on the show If these freak-offs are happening, it's on a completely different day than the actual Okay, it's not that day because a completely different day than the actual Puff party. They do that, okay. It's not that day because every time I was there, Puff was there the whole time.

You know, he's, he got the Siroc, he's on the DJ booth, he's the host of the party. I will say that. Now, I've had this conversation with Ray J, Ray J's one of my best friends. I said, Ray, did they ever invite you to a freak-off? Cause they never invited me. And I done been at these parties.

I just feel like, why I ain't get the invite? Because they know you don't get down like that. Maybe they know I don't get down like that. OK, cool. But you would think maybe an assistant would come up and be like, hey, you like girls? Or you into? Never.

No one ever asked me that. They never asked Ray J Either and me and Ray J was talking about it We were like I done been to the party the after party the after after party I've never seen none of that stuff But that's not to say that it does not happen or invalidate people that But I do think it's a different day that I'm just not invited to I don't know It's Julie Stewart banks. I'm doing a new to. I don't know. It's Julie Stewart-Banks.

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of iHeart Women's Sports. You think it's a plot, because we saw it happen with Russell Simmons, now we see it happen with P. Diddy. You think it is a plot or a ploy to take down prominent, high-powered black men? I don't know, it really depends on the evidence, right? Because they did say that there were drugs in the baby oil. I don't know, that's allegedly.

Is that true? You think that Puff had a thousand bottles of baby oil? That's what I'm saying. I don't know because the internet is fake, like we said earlier. You just don't know. But if that is in fact true, then that is a problem. One thing I do know about Puff is that he's an abuser.

He abused Cassie, we all saw the video. It is not okay. And, but as far as the freak-offs, I don't know about that. I just, I don't know. Did you have, when I say relationship, I don't mean intimate relationship, but did you have a relationship with Puff Daddy

where you cool, did you talk, did you know him, things like that? I would say that we didn't talk on the phone and we didn't hang out, but I was always invited to the party. Okay. And that's the extent of our friendship. Okay.

Now, is it true that you were at the Halloween party that Puff's sons and Ray J got into it? I was, yes. I was right there. What happened? I was, yes. I was right there. What happened? They just pressed Ray J.

They were just like, stop talking about my dad. And then Ray J said what he said, like something like, I know your dad better than you know your dad, or something like that. And then it just got ugly for a second. Yeah, because I'm cool with Christian and Justin and Quincy, but then I also love Ray J, he's like my brother, and I'm just like, guys, please, just stop,

it's not worth it, y'all don't wanna do this. So, you know, and I told Ray J, I said, look, that's their dad, What do you expect them to do? Like, of course they're gonna stand up for their dad. You know what I mean? Like- And rightfully so. But it's reported that Breezy, Chris Brown,

was the peacemaker. Is that true? I think I was the peacemaker. That was you. I think, well, from what I remember, I was going to both sides and like, y'all don't need to do this. But maybe Chris came down at some point.

It was in the garage, I'm not sure. What have you learned about fame? Oh. Cause you've had more than 15 minutes. You've had two decades of it. Yeah, it's going on 16 years. What have I learned about fame? That, Um, what have I learned about fame? That half of these motherfuckers don't know what they're doing.

All the publicists, all the fake ass managers, all the business managers, they all manipulate all of us into thinking that they have all the answers when we ourselves have the answers. As the entertainers or the socialites or the famous people, we got here because of us. Before a manager, before a publicist. Yes, yes. And some people just have that it factor, you know? But it's funny because very early on,

you get the publicist, you get the manager, and they tell you like, oh, you know, if you want to make money now, you got to twerk. You got to sell sex on the podcast. You got to just say that you love girls and guys. So you eventually start to lose yourself in this fake entertainment world because they're intimidating you every day that you're going to lose it all if you do

not do what they tell you to do. Instead of standing ten toes down, but that intimidation changes you as a person. Is fame a drug? Because I believe it is. I believe this is suffocating. I believe it can be intoxicating. And once you become hooked on it, you'll do anything to keep it. Maybe for some people, not for me.

I don't give a sh-t about being famous. You famous now? You can't be un-famous? You cannot be un-famous. No, you can't be un-famous. No, you can't be un-famous, but yeah, I don't actively do things to, you know. To be in the public spotlight, just like, look at Amber Rose, look at what she's doing, look at what she's wearing.

I'm really quiet. Yeah. Like, I'm really quiet with my shit, so, yeah. Money, what have you learned about money? Oh, Lord, just save, Lord. Just, save. Save, save, save. I remember I spent my first million and I gagged, because I was like. What did you spend it on?

Going to Miami, fountain blue, partying, bottles, outfits, clothes, shoes, dumb, just a bunch of dumb. And then I was like Then I got a business manager like you need to pay taxes and I'm like what? So then I was like in the hole. Mm-hmm It was like very early in my career, but I definitely never I didn't do that again. I definitely did not do that again What's been what's your what's your best and worst purchases? My best and worst purchases?

My best and worst purchases? You know, when I had new money, I had like seven cars for no reason. What the? And now I have two cars. So, yeah, I just, I don't live the same way anymore. I'm more, I save now and I think about things before I buy them. I'm definitely gonna take this dress back

and I'm gonna exchange it for another dress when I have another interview. Let us know so we can make sure you take it back before we are at his interview. Yo, listen, I put the little receipt in my drawer next to the bed. I'm taking this shit right back. Lord have mercy.

What's the number one thing that you learned in the entertainment business? No one genuinely likes you. They just use you for, they just use you for what they need you for. Really? It's not real life, no. You really believe that, Amber?

Yeah, I know that for a fact, yeah. No one genuinely cares. Like, at your lowest- It's all transactional, huh? Yeah, at your lowest point, that they don't give a. It's like, when are you gonna get better so we can get you to do what we want you to do? Wow.

Yeah. Let me ask you this. If you could go back and do anything differently, what would you do? Being famous? Yeah, if you can go back and do anything in your life. If you go back, if I say Amber, you know what? I'm gonna give you an opportunity to go back. You can get the time machine and you can go back and you can do get a do-over. What would you do? Such a hard question, Shannon. I would appreciate my children as babies more. Because it flew by so fast. And my Sebastian, he's going to be 12 tomorrow.

Wow. Congrats. Happy early birthday. Yeah, his birthday's tomorrow. And then my son is five, and I was just like, you guys were just in my belly. Like, what happened? And I don't know, it makes me sad sometimes. I wish I understood that that first, second, and third year was going to go by so fast.

What do you learn about mixing business and friendship? I don't do that. You never have or you don't do it anymore? Uh oh, well, okay, I guess going back to your question, yes, I have and it always turned bad. And I always had to kind of break up with them and be like, I love you as a friend, so to not mess up our friendship, we cannot work together.

Wow. Yeah. How do they take it? Some better than others, but we remain friends after. It was friends stealing from you to steal jewelry, money, and even slept with your boyfriend? You had people, you had friends. Oh yeah, oh.

Hold on, hold on, tell me about it. So you got people. I told you all the, want my men? You had people, you had three. Oh yeah, oh. Hold on, hold on, time out. So you got people. I told you all the, I want my men after they had me, Shana, it's weird. It's like kind of lesbian-ish. So does that make you think they were never your friend if they were willing to do something like this to you? 100%, 100%.

You were never my friend. You never cared about me. You never gave a, about me. You were, this is what you always wanted to do and I truly believe that and I will never talk to these people ever again How much money they steal from you there was a large sum of money like five thousand ten thousand oh it's like 250,000 Yep, and then fled to Jamaica And you ain't seen them since? Nope. Did you want to get over there and go to Jamaica and get them?

You know I did, Shannon. Good Lord have mercy. Hold on, did you have a friend call social service on you? That's a tough one. Someone did call social services on me, yes, it was not my friend though. They've been doing you wrong, huh? Twice. Twice on me. I mean, I obviously got cleared both times. Did you know that person? Yes, I knew them very well. So they were friends? They just tried to

hurt me in a way where I will never forgive them for that You got a bit of forgive Amber why because forgiveness is not for them is for you who said that because you're holding on to it You can't be free. They can never be free without they can never be free to without I don't think about them until you bring them up where I see him on the street. I don't think about them It's like I'm sitting all day thinking about these people. No, no. But there's still a little bit of bondage that you're still in captivity with. It's just how I'm built.

I won't hate you forever. You were in school to dance with Cat Williams, Mike Epps, Tiffany Haddish, Pete Davidson, Lil Duvall, Nick Cannon. How was that experience? It was super fun. It was so much fun. You know, it's crazy. I was pregnant with Sebastian on set and fun. It was so much fun. You know, it's crazy.

I was pregnant with Sebastian on set and I didn't even know it yet. Really? Yeah, because I remember my stomach hurting and I was cramping and I'm like, the hell is going on? And then I found out I was pregnant. Wow.

Do you want to act more? I do want to act more. Yeah. I think I actually just had a meeting with an agent yesterday to do more acting. It's pretty fun. I think I actually just had a meeting with an agent yesterday to do more acting. It's pretty fun. I'm asking this.

What type of mother is Amber Rose? We had said you're an unbelievable mother. He spoke glowingly. I mean, I don't know if I've ever had somebody on here speak so highly of me. Wow, like, bro, why don't y'all stay married? He's like, we're better friends. Yes, we are.

But what type of mother are you? I am an extremely hands-on mother. I get up every morning and take my children to school. I feed them every morning. I pick them up from school. I cook them dinner every day. And I take them to their extracurricular activities. I do not have a nanny.

I've never had a nanny. Really? Nope. And not have a nanny, I've never had a nanny. Really? Nope. And my kids wouldn't even know what to do with a nanny. They'll be like, where's my mama? They don't, they're only used to me. Is it a situation, I read somewhere, they say what you crave as a child,

you overcompensate as a parent. Maybe so, that actually makes sense. And I never thought about that until you said that. But that's maybe why I'm that type of mother. Right. What type of boys are you trying to raise? Because you're definitely a mom, you're a boy mom. Yes, I am.

I'm also militant. I'm militant. Really? Yes. You're a strict parent? You think Wiz is a strict parent? Yeah. Please.

That, he's like, okay, Bazz, whatever you wanna do. You know, I'm like, but yeah, yeah. I'm the strict parent for sure. You feel you have to be that because the dads are not? Yeah, they're just pushovers. Yeah, both of my kids' dads are pushovers. I'm the disciplinary one for sure. So they have to, well, not so much slash, because he's five, but Sebastian has to make

his bed, wash dishes. We have a housekeeper five days a week, but I said, Victoria works for me, she don't work for you. You need to clean this up. Wow. She cleans up for me. She don't clean up for you. You don't have this up. Wow. She cleans up for me. She don't clean up for you. You don't have a job. Clean all this up. Put the stuff in there.

Take the trash out and wash the dishes. Wow. You know? So he needs to he needs to know that so when he gets out on his own he don't have to depend on anyone to take care of him. What's the key to being a great co-parent? Because like you said you have two sons, two different dads, and so obviously, I like I said, I had Wiz on and he seems really, really cool, but I'm sure your youngest son's dad, they probably have different personalities and the way you interact with one,

you don't interact the same way with the other co-parent. So what's the key to co-parenting? The key is to not worry about anything but your child. Okay. Once you talk about, you got my son around that bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Why he over here doing that, you took a picture over here with, none of that matters.

Okay. If your baby is safe and fed and happy and healthy, don't bother nobody with that dumb ass shit. Just be a parent, that's it. Should a woman try to live a lifestyle once the guy is gone, that she live with the guy if they were to have a kid together? So let's just say for the sake of argument,

the guy was worth 500 million. Y'all not married. So what do you think a respectable amount of monthly child support should be? It depends on how you want your child to live, right? So it depends on the man. If you're not gonna see the child that much, right? If you're like busy and the child is with the mom more often,

depends on how you want your child to live. You can't spite the mom because, I'm saying spite the child because you hate the mom. That's not cool. So it's like that, she's not finna live off my money, blah, blah, blah, but now you're spiting the child because now the child don't have a backyard or a swing set or amenities that you could bring with your money

just because you wanna. I mean, I don't know, Amber, I don't barely know a whole lot of kids that need 50,000, 100,000, 150,000, 200,000 dollars. That's a lot of money. That's very loud. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot of money.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I never took my baby daddies to court. They just break you up, they do what dads should do. Yeah, well. Do you think sometimes women actually try to get pregnant from men? Yes, yes.

That's a real thing? Yes. You've had girlfriends say, oh, I'm trying to, hey, I'm trying to get- I've had girlfriends lie about abortions to get money, to act like they're pregnant. Yes, it's disgusting. This is why I stopped my slut walk, by the way. Yeah. This is why I'm no longer a feminist,

because I saw the dark side of what women can do. And I'm sitting here feeling slighted by men. Right. And then I'm fighting for equality. Right. And I'm'm like the only equality is that you either Y'all are really you guys are extorting men lying about pregnancies Saying you're on birth control when you're not to trap them, you know, and I mean not to sound vulgar But if a man comes inside of you and you say that you're on birth control He trusts you. Right. Stop, that you would trap him like that. You don't do that to people.

And that probably should have been his first mistake, that he trusted someone, huh? Yeah, I mean, but- Because you teach me, after talking to you, you're like, Shannon, don't trust nobody. Yeah, I don't trust nobody. I don't, I really don't trust nobody. Wiz told me, like, after you guys,

the day you got a divorce, you and him went to the strip club. Yeah. How the hell did, y'all can't be together, but come on baby, let's go to the strip club, get some waves. That's my dog. That's my dog.

And he said, you know what, I wouldn't get, you know, I'd just give her the money, let her do her thing. I was like, Wiz, think about what you said. You said you and Amber, y'all went to court, y'all got a divorce. Come on, baby, let's go to the club. We just cool like that, she had a...

He said it. He said, we are so much better as friends than we were husband and wife. 100%. Also, in our defense, Wiz was 23 when he proposed to me. I was like 26. We were very immature.

We were just getting money. Our families were just like, what, you got this money and you got that. Our families fucked up our marriage. Really? Really gonna be honest. What happened? His mom didn't like you, your mom didn't like you?

I mean. Just everybody just couldn't mind the business. And then me and him start arguing because our family is intimidating us and just making shit hard where we could've just been happy and peaceful. You know, it just wasn't, it wasn't, if we would've got married later in life, it would've been much easier,

because he really is my best friend. Like, we're cool as hell. It's just the wrong time. Can you have done a better job of keeping them out y'all damn business? Oh yeah, but we, when you're that young and you got so much money coming in on both sides, and then you got a brand new baby,

and you got the momma telling you, well this is how y'all raised you, and then my mom was like, well I'm with this, and then she's saying this, this, that. And then it's just like, well, I'm like, well you need to tell her to stop saying this, and he's like, well you need to get your other side of the family, and it's just a whole mess.

It's a whole mess. Are you a partner with Khalifa and Khalifa Kush, correct? Are you partners? I wish I was, give me my 5%. Ah! It's toughness. Look, I've always, I had no idea. I mean, when we started Club Shay-Shay,

CJ, my executive producer. Yeah. I never thought a lot of people that I'm sitting down with because the way we started is that I just reached out to my phone and I just reached out to people that I had in my phone. So I'd never had any idea. But I've always said, man, I want to ask Amarillo,

why do you get a tattoo on your forehead? What does that even mean? I wanted to, I mean, cause- What's kids names? You couldn't put it on your back, your arm, your thigh? I mean, Shannon, not to get dark, cause this conversation is very happy and full. Yes, yeah.

I just never had a problem with depression and anxiety. I've always been a ball of sunshine. And, you know, I had a baby and the pandemic hit. And at all that happened. And then at the same time I found out my baby daddy was cheating on me Our whole relationship So it was a lot of hard pills to swallow and also trying to be a mother and I had a six-year-old at the time

And just California shut down California that the rest of the country didn't shut down like California did. California shut down. California shut down. You almost like just could not leave your house and everything was so scary and the news and my newborn baby and my mind messed me up and I got the tattoo because I felt like I just needed to feel something. I just needed to look in the mirror and see my kids. And I don't know, I just, I was just,

I was in a very dark place. And I also, I didn't, I didn't wanna feel beautiful. I didn't wanna feel pretty. I just kinda wanted to f*** myself up a little bit. Damn. If that makes sense. No, I mean, at the time, I mean, I'm listening at you and you're telling me what you're going through

and that you didn't wanna feel pretty, and you get a tattoo, and obviously, it's where everybody's gonna be able to see it. You put it in a place, and like I said, I ask you, and I don't mean to be disrespectful or anything like that, so I apologize, but, so you had postpartum? Yes, why had postpartum? Because my entire relationship was a lot

You know and and I just Was he seeing share at the time was he doubt the one he was he was seeing everybody I don't think he was seeing share but he was definitely seeing everybody. How do you not know you say you had intuition? How you not know you you you have cloudy judgment when you're pregnant? Okay, but it's also like how you won't cheat on me when I'm pregnant You know, I'm not finna cheat back, at least play a fair fight. Yeah!

Cheat on me when I get my body back. Oh, you get your leg back? No, I don't do that. Okay. What am I gonna go, your friends to make you mad? I'm not gonna do that, that's ridiculous. I'm not that person. You know some of them do that now.

I'm not that, why? That's so dumb. That's so stupid, no, not doing that, it's ridiculous. You have any more ties to you got one of your thumb? It used to say Cam, cause Wiz's name was Cameron. Well his name is Cameron, but I turned it into pain because he broke my heart worse than anyone could ever break my heart.

Yeah, cause I was gonna say that yeah, you're not gonna be able to have, I don't know how guys gonna let you have somebody else's name on them. Yeah, because I was going to say that you're not going to be able to have, I don't know how guys are going to let you have somebody else's name on them. Yeah, I turned it into pain. Yeah. So how many tattoos do you have? You have either two on your forehead or see the thumb? I'm fully sleeved. Really?

Yeah. How old were you when you got your first tattoo? I was young. Did you always want tats? I wanted to be bald headed with shades and I wanted to be tatted. Really? Yep. Yep.

This is all premeditated, Shannon. This is all premeditated. This is how I want it to look. I see, well Pete Davidson just had all his tattoos removed. I think that's the cost, I don't know if it's true, to send over $200,000 to have those tattoos. Would you ever think about having your tattoos removed? No, it's just too painful.

Really? I ain't doing that. The removal is painful, huh? The removal No, it's just too painful. Really? I ain't doing that. The removal is painful, huh? The removal is more painful than the actual tattoo. Really? Yeah. Yeah, you know what it is. Because I had my daughter, she got a tattoo without my permission

and I ended up having to take her to Chicago. She was in pain, huh? Yeah. Oh, she was screaming. I don't know what to tell you. But you can actually hear, you can smell the skin burning. Yeah, yeah. It's bad. Yeah, yeah, it's bad.

Yeah, I tell her that every week. Got it up off of me. Listen. Yeah, she talking about she wanted to be RiRi. How would you? Yeah, she had it down her arm. I mean, just like Rihanna, oh yeah. She wanted to be RiRi, that's so funny.

I say, RiRi don't pay no bills up here. I love you, RiRi, but that had to come up off there. Wait, how old, you only have a daughter? I have two daughters and my son. How old are they? Um 32 and 31 I'll be 57 It's Julie Stewart banks I'm doing a new podcast from I heartart Podcasts and the National Hockey League. And I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say and not just about hockey. Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's gonna be well It's gonna be quite the ride. We're officially line mates Nate. We're the energy line We'll have plenty of folks join us current players some of my former teammates Hall of Famers and wait to see some of the connections That Julie has she has quite the Rolodex Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey

and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate? I'm vibing, Julie. I'm ready to roll. Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jon Stewart is back at The Daily Show and he's bringing his signature wit and insight straight to your ears with The Daily Show Ears Edition podcast.

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Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six-time Lady Geo-European Tour winner. And Kira K. Dixon, NBC Sports reporter and host. You forgot to say warm and miss America, by the way. And we've got a new podcast, Quiet Please, with Mel. And Kira, we are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haves, and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower. Or just people we like, plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads and chads.

Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle Wee, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baleotis. So if you want to keep up with us and here's the app, tune into our new podcast. Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app,

Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Feel like that K-Dot swimming pools, pull up, drink, head shot, drink. Whoo! They're not like us, Jordan. They're not like us.

This little shot of that right now. Um, surgery procedures, breast reduction, liposuction, cellulopathy, bulldog fillers, face tight. Why you need to do all that? What you mean? Why not? lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie.

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You wanna look like a younger version of yourself. Yeah, yeah, I just wanna stay youthful. You do realize the objective is that once you, is to age, because a lot of people have an appointment that they can't reschedule. What do you mean? Appointment that you can't reschedule. It's called death.

Oh. I mean, don't you, I mean, so how long, so you want to be, you want to be 60 looking like this? I will be 60 looking like this. Oh, Lord have mercy, Amber. It's okay, Amber, it's okay. It's fine, it's fine. It is definitely okay.

So all those procedures, I mean, you're like, man, that's my- It's really not a lot. It's upkeep. It's just maintenance. That's not a lot of, trust me, I know girls, they get a lot, I know guys, they get their bodies done. What kind of body, what kind of? They get six packs, they get all that, yeah.

Come on, Amber. They get cuts in there, so what they do is they liposuction around the muscle and it makes it cut, like stick out. Yeah. Yeah. Guys doing that now? Yes, they do is they liposuction around the muscle and it makes it cut like stick out. Yeah. Yeah Well, some is genetics Some is genetics and if you want the extra cuts, sometimes you need a little help You go to dr. Matlock Dr. Matlock. But who else? You know, Angela, black China, formerly known as black China, she got her breast implants,

butt injections, she got all that stuff removed. Yeah. Yeah, good for her. Yeah, she's happy. She seems very happy. She does seem very happy. Did you have a conversation with her? I mean, she's sober now.

Yeah, we talk all the time. Do you? Yes. Yeah, but you know, we're just in different, we have different lifestyles, me and China, but that's my sister forever. Why do you think women are regretting some of the decisions that they made when they were younger?

SZA says she regrets getting her BBL as well. Why do you think women are starting to have those regrets, Amber? Well, I think it's because it's the style at the time, right, to have just a big old fat ass. And then you realize when you go to the gym. You know you can do squats and hip thrusts. Well, you go to the gym and you can't really

run on the treadmill because your ass is heavy as hell. And then you want to go get it taken out, you know? So, I mean, I've done it. I got my butt done and then I got everything taken out, right? So I got my butt done when it was in style right big stupid fat ass And now I got it taken out. Is it hard for women to age gracefully? I'm happy with aging. I just feel like if you know if I can get some Botox or some You know, I really don't do much.

What do I get? Do I get like maybe a little filler right here and some Botox on my face? You think I can get some Botox? I'm gonna take you. You need some Botox. You need a little bit of Botox. For this line right here?

You got a couple. We gonna get rid of all that. But I'm about to be 57. But it's okay. It's fine. You get a little Botox and then it just smooths it out. Oh. They'll do it for free, it's fine. You get a little Botox and then it just smooths it out. I'm gonna do it for free, it's fine. Oh, Lord have mercy.

But why is it, it seems to be a double standard. That men can age gracefully. Oh, you look so good. We love the salt and pepper, blah, blah, blah. But women, because it's like men can get to age like be 55, 60, 70 and still appeal to like the high 20s, 30s, year old, 30, young 40s. Women not so much have, now some,

like you and your situation, you being who you are, hey, you're gonna always be able to appeal to basically from 19 to your age, even 19 to 70. But it's not, I'll be honest, it's not easy. I do go to the gym five days a week. You know what I'm saying? I do drink a lot of water.

I don't drink alcohol like that. Maybe a special occasion, a little something. You watch what you eat? I eat in moderation. Okay. So I am from Philly, so I do like my cheese steaks You watch what you eat? I eat in moderation. So I am from Philly so I do like my cheese steaks and my pork sandwiches and stuff like that. But instead of eating the whole one, I'll eat a half one.

Or instead of having fries with it, I won't have no fries, I'll just drink a water versus a root beer because I love root beer. But yeah, I just mix it up, mix and match it. Have you ever been body shamed? Do women body, do people body shame? Not just say women, but do you get body shamed? I did, especially like after I had my kids and I was still fat, you know, but I didn't give a f**k, I didn't think about it twice. I was just like, I'm fluffy because my kids have to

lay on me and breastfeed. Right. I don't care. I'll go to the gym and I'll figure it out. Why are women so hard on each other on social media? Is it really like this in real life? Are women really this hard on each other? Forget social media. Take that out.

Have women always been this hard on each other? Have y'all always been your toughest critics? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I know this is kind of frowned upon, but I usually hang out with guys. I don't hang out with girls like that. And the girls that I do hang out with,

they're very confident. If you're insecure around me, it pisses me off. Yeah, I don't like that. But again, the Iman Shumper, the Ray J's, my assistant is a man, that's my little cousin over there. All my friends are mostly guys that I hang out with because girls get too emotional. They talk about purses and shoes.

I wanna talk about religion and politics. I like to have more conversations with men because it just resonates with me more. Okay. What's the craziest interaction? Because obviously you say fans, a lot of times you meet fans and they want an autograph, they want to take pictures.

What's one of your craziest interactions? Girls are usually the worst because I get girls like a rapper would. Like girls want to have sex with me. Really? Yes. And you tell them I don't get down like that? I don't get down like that.

But then they, because they're girls, they get like very touchy, thilly. Oh, they feel you? They feel you up? Yes, yes. It's kind of crazy, Shannon. It's crazy because it's like, you're really assaulting me right now.

It's like, I'm not gonna call the cops. But you didn't really cut it out. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah, not gonna call the cops. But you didn't really cut it out. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah, it's girls the most. It is girls. You bitches are crazy. College Hill with Ray J, Mon Schumpert,

Jocelyn Hernandez, Tiffany. I mean, do you like doing reality shows? Or is your life a reality show? I was famous for 15 years, and that was the only reality show I ever did. And I did it because I love to learn, I never had an opportunity to go to college, and I was like, why not?

If I'm gonna do a reality show, I should go to college, it would be fun. So do I like reality shows? I don't know, that's my only experience that I have. If you had gone to college, would you have pledged? What would you be? Delta, AKA? Probably not. No, really?

No, I'm not into all that stuff. I told you I'm introverted. He he he he he. The Jocelyn Hernandez fight you guys make up no Damn, tell her you really feel forever Okay She's a dumb stupid. Oh Come on. She's a she's an ignorant

And I don't think about her, but I just don't like her. I there's no And I don't think about her, but I just don't like her. There's no Forgive her what led to this? Why was it like this? Why how did it become so contentious? You know, I never said this Shannon I'm gonna say this on your show and I'm gonna give the truth to the to the world Okay, okay Jocelyn Hernandez was trying to have sex with me The whole time I was on College Hill, she was in my ear, she was saying, just give me a chance one time,

you know, but if you're cool with it, we can do it in front of my husband, but if not, like, it could just be me and you. And at first I was nice, and I said, I'm flattered, it's just not my thing. Right. Right? I not my thing. Right. Right? I was very gentle.

Right. In my ear again, coming over, like having a dress on and going like this, bending over, a coochie out. What? Yes, and it was loud. Did you tell her, look, I like the Arm and Hammer? I did, she knew that. Okay.

She knew that, I'm a heterosexual woman. Yeah. I don't like that stuff. Heavy on the hetero? Heavy on the hetero. Okay, okay. So, you know, it's Jocelyn, she's bending over showing me her vagina, and I'm laughing,

I'm like, girl, you crazy. If you was a man, you'd be attracted to that, but you not attracted, that's not your thing. Jocelyn's a beautiful girl. Yes. An idiot, but she's a beautiful girl. Okay. Right, I'm not gonna deny that. So anyway, when I have respectfully declined

on numerous occasions, then she start bullying me with the race, why you sound white, why you talk white, why this and that, blah, blah, blah, but you black, why you act white, all this, and I'm like, you're like obsessed with me. Like there's no, you don't act white, all this. And I'm like, you're like obsessed with me. Like there's no, you don't talk white. Like are you insinuating that black people can't speak well? Because that's what it's giving, right?

So we're in class and there's a poem from Langston Hughes about different hues of black women, right? So she's not much I'm in the back of the classroom So she's like yeah, not like not like them White people white people are ugly. It's like something like that Some of course I'm at an HBC you I'm the only biracial there. I very light skin I could pass if I wanted to and they all turn around and they look at me I'm like trying to try here this day, you know, she's been bullying me saying dumb for like two weeks now so

She's like no no, no, but Amber you're black And I and at that point see they didn't put this in the show the lead-up to it So it looks like I'm just overreacting because she said I was black, right? That's not the case. I'm like, girl, I have a whole white parent. It is very different. So then she's like, well, you're like me, you're mixed. And I said, no, I'm not.

You're a Puerto Rican. Both of your parents are Puerto Rican. Generationally down the line, the blacks and whites mixed and then you are Puerto Rican. Generationally down the line, the blacks and whites mixed and then you became Puerto Rican. I understand the history, right? The difference between me and you is that I have a white parent and I have a black parent. It's a whole different culture, sis.

You don't know what you're talking about, so stop telling me who I am. And then she was like, you know what your problem is? You just want to be white and I said So I just get up and I'm quiet and I got a walk past her desk to get out the classroom and She went like this and I was like What and I you fired on him? I hit her with like a six. It's like a six piece

I hit her with like a six, this is like a six piece. Damn! She has a history of violence. She does. What am I gonna do? You're gonna bully me and then beat me up? Are you done? I'm never gonna let you do that to me. I'ma fight off.

You will get off first. I'ma get off first. And both my mom and dad was like, that's right. That's what you do. And my dad was like, you always get the first hit. Always. Yeah. How difficult was it growing up biracial

in the 90s in South Philly? It was interesting, for sure. Well, I mean, actually, the late 80s? It was the 90s, it was the 90s, yeah, for sure. The 90s, like I started first grade in 91. Okay. It was definitely interesting because it's like the Italian and Irish out there. So they're like a different kind of races sometimes.

But I would like have, before I really even thought about race, I would have a crush on like an Italian boy, an Irish boy, and then they would like see my mom and they would be like, you know, call me like the hard R. And I'm like, it's kinda crazy, like, you know? And then, or they would see my mom and they'd be like, damn, I had no idea.

Or I thought you were white. Or, well, if your dad's white, then you're white, but if your mom's black, then you're black. And it was always like I had to just pick a side all the time. So I think that was one of my frustrations with Jocelyn. Like, I'm at the time 39 years old. Are we really doing this? Like, are you that stupid that we really have to go? I have to go through this at 39 years old. It's insane. Wow. Yeah. Did you hate that you felt like you needed to pick a side that I need?

Why can't I just love both of my parents? One is black, one is white. Why can't I embrace? Why do I have to choose a side? Why do I got to choose the Caucasian side of my family? Why do I have to choose the black side of my family? Why can't I just embrace and be an embodiment of it all? That's my whole point.

I always felt like that my whole life. But you felt that each side wanted you to choose. Not my people, people on the outside. Outside. Not my family. Okay, don't people say outside forces wanted you to choose? You black, say I'm black, black power, right on. But it's like the one drop rule comes from white supremacy.

It comes from Jim Crow era where white enslavers would rape black slaves women and they would have their kids and they'd be like, oh, one drop, you're still a slave. It comes from white supremacy. There is no reason why I have to feel bad that I have a white dad and white family members that I love, and I have to just say I'm black because the one drop rule is insane.

And I love that I have my white uncles that introduced me to Pantera and Metallica and System of a Down and Leonard Skinner. And all these, all that. That's a part of my culture because of my white uncles. And then my mom's side is the Anita Baker, Luther Vandross, Four Tops, Temptation, Teddy Pantograph. That is who I am.

So somebody like Jocelyn, bitch, you're not finna just tell me who the fuck I am. Let me ask you a question. Why do you think Drake receives so much hate? Do you think it's because he's vibrational? 100%. Yeah. And he embraces his Jewish side so much that it pisses people off.

What do you think of the people that are profited off being in black spaces? You got a problem with that? Are you okay with that? Well, that confuses me. I'm gonna tell you why. Okay, talk to me. Because you cannot blame, you have to blame the consumer at that point, right?

So when people are like, Amber, you're famous for no reason, it's like maybe, but you have to blame the consumer. You can't blame me. Right. Blame the people that buy into what I'm selling. Right? So if somebody like Drake or me is within black culture and we're biracial, why are you mad at us?

We love y'all. And we love white people too. And there's black people that aren't good and there's white people that aren't good. There's bad people in every race, and there's good people in every race. So you don't talk about people as a monolith. That's unfair.

You know what I'm saying? So to benefit off of black culture is crazy. I hate when I see that. Because it's like, you're not actively going into, you're like, like me, I'm biracial, like me. Drake's just making rap music and it's really good. So people like it. They buy it.

They buy it. Tyler caught a lot of backlash when she identified herself as black and a colored woman. She's being, obviously she's South Africans. What's going on? People are called color in South Africa, colored. There's a different culture over there. People in the US, you can tell.

They used to call you that, they used to call you that in civil, during, you know, the pre- The civil rights, yeah, yeah. Civil rights and the civil, yeah, in the, you know, pre-1860s, that's what they were called. Colored, they call you Negro. But it has a negative connotation here in America because of American history.

It's not the same in South Africa. So when she says that, people are up in arms, but it doesn't mean the same thing over here that it does over there. You've been participating in Travis Scott's annual HBCU Celebrity Classic. What's your relationship with Trav? You cool?

Obviously you're cool, because you go damn near every year. Yeah, he's just, I don't know, he's just super cool. He invited me one year, which is crazy, because I don't talk to Travis Scott until the game is coming up in February. And I'm like, yo bro, what are we doing this year? How many outfits should I bring? Is it an after-after party? And then I probably won't talk to him till next February.

Amber, I don't know, I was debating. You caught a lot of flak, because you supported President Trump, your appeal to using it. You say, look, I like talking religion. I like talking politics. I ain't got no problem with it. And people are like, we gonna cancel Amber Rose

because she wearing the red hat. Make America great again. What went into your, and we're said, talking to Wes, he says, look, if that's what you believe, do you. Why are you worried about what everybody else thinking? Do you. What made you decide to say, you know what,

this do I believe is the best candidate. This do I believe, this do embodies basically what I believe in. This is who I'm supporting. What went into your thought process? You knew that you were gonna catch some criticism. You were gonna catch some blowback and plaque, but you did it anyway. What went into that decision?

I just felt like he was the best for our country. And why not use my platform to say that? First and foremost, second of all, no one can ever cancel me. Only I can cancel me. Right. Is there anything you want to promote? You got anything coming out? You got a book? You got cosmetics? Anything you want to promote? Yes. So I would like to announce that me and Ray J are coming out with a new show. Okay. And we are talking about everything sports, politics, entertainment. It's me and him.

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