Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Andrew Schulz Part 2

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

In Part 2 of the conversation with Andrew Schulz, he breaks down why he went independent as a comedian, stepping away from traditional networks to own his content. He shares how venues turned on him after his Trump interview and reacts to Tony Hinchcliffe’s joke about Puerto Rico at a Trump rally. Schulz talks about roasting Tom Brady and reacts to Gisele Bündchen moving on and having a baby. He discusses whether he would host the White House Correspondents’ Dinner and wanting the chance to roast Tiger Woods. He also shares his experience meeting Michael Jordan. He gives his take on the Jonah Hill and Lauren London CGI kiss and whether he would ever do a sex scene. He talks about his friendship with 50 Cent and weighs in on the beef between Ocho Cinco and Cam’ron. Schulz reflects on his time on MTV, meeting Charlamagne and Lil Duval, and how those moments shaped his career. He explains why he loves podcasting and how it helps him keep creative control. He reacts to Luigi Mangione and the state of the world, discussing Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and Mark Zuckerberg. He also talks about immigrant rights, how undocumented people are treated in America, and why he advocated for them in his Trump interview. Schulz opens up about meeting his wife and dating culture. He shares his thoughts on marriage, couples counseling, therapy, and being a father. He also discusses IVF and the challenges of trying to conceive. He gives his take on the Knicks’ chances this season. He responds to Kendrick Lamar’s comments about white comedians discussing Black women and weighs in on the Kendrick vs. Drake battle. He also reflects on roasting Meek Mill on social media. This episode is full of unfiltered insights, hilarious moments, and behind-the-scenes stories from Andrew Schulz’s incredible career. Don’t miss it! #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. You didn't go through it with football? Not like this. Because it's hard. Football is hard. Boxing, UFC hard. You're earning that money. You put your life on the line It was like first of all, I'm not gonna be 6-2. I'm not gonna be 230 I'm not gonna be able to take those hits. I'm not gonna be able to do this But it's like man, I can get a camera and get a buddy of mine and I can do that. There we go

There we go. I promise you the harder this nobody's upset at Floyd's money Cuz you don't want to get in there with the good the dudes he got in there, right? You know, nobody's upset if Marvin Hagler making money. It was earned. You're independent. Yeah. Well, what do you mean by that? Because you had a special somewhere.

You brought it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And says, OK, I'm going to put it on YouTube. Yeah. What made you do that? They were just, they didn't want to do a couple of the jokes that were in it. And you're like, no, I ain't taking no jokes out. Yeah, I didn't want to do a couple of the jokes that were in it. And you were like, no, I ain't taking no jokes out.

Yeah, I didn't want to take any of the jokes out. You feel it was dilute the special? Yeah, and also just like principle. You don't want to start this? Yeah, I just felt like, and then, so yeah, I was able to put it out and the people really supported it and it was awesome. 20 million views on YouTube. Got 20 million views on YouTube. We also sold it and that was great and like that just it was just money on top of money, huh?

It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah Yeah, people got upset at me for that for putting it out on for selling it and then putting it out on YouTube later But this is the thing people will create narratives of anything I'm like every movie I ever watched I saw it in a movie theater and then it was available on TV Yeah, they every UFC fight ever watched I saw it in a movie theater and then it was available on TV Yeah, they every UFC fight ever watched I saw it and guess what? There's no Netflix or Amazon. So every movie that's been in the theater So like so in my mind, I'm like, I'm just doing the exact same thing that those big billion dollar corporations do You're not mad at them. No, but movie theater hotel room, then it goes in that blitz Amazon

So but this is the thing, it's like, now the majority of people are very supportive, but there were people frustrated about that. And I even told them that I was gonna put it out on YouTube, by the way. But it is what it is, these are the things you just gotta, you gotta deal with. Have there been a situation where venues have canceled you?

I did get it, I did, yeah. A few times that happened. Really? Yeah. The place where I was gonna film my special. And I don't, yeah, like, we had to change it. I think that they were maybe potentially frustrated about the Trump interview. Wow.

And then, but also I also don't wanna like, I don't wanna punish venues. It's the, like, board. Do you know what I mean? Like a venue is just a beautiful space. Correct. And the board makes the decisions for that venue. Right. So if the board changes, that venue can prosper and just be awesome.

And I just don't want to put a stain on a specific venue, but rather like maybe the people making those... People making those decisions. Yeah. And they're, you know, they just made a bad decision. Right. You know? Was it expensive for you to buy your special mat?

Yeah, for, yeah. Yeah. What have you learned about ownership? Because everybody's like, I want to own, I want to run a business. Yeah. But do people realize, realize and understand how much?

Owners is expensive, bro. Like, you own an apartment, goes wrong, Realize and understand how much. Owners is expensive, bro. I mean, you own an apartment, goes wrong, you gotta fix it. You know when you're renting and you just get to call some guy. Hey man, my dishwasher broke. You even go, your dishwasher broke. Broke.

Your dishwasher broke. Your shit is broken, you should go fix it. So it's like, yeah, there are, but here we are, complaining about privilege. What do they call this, champagne problems or some shit? But there are. No crying on the yacht. There it is, there it is.

But it is, there are different costs with it. But I will take that any day. Just being, having control of it. That's what I love about it. I mean, think about like you in your life, like how much more liberating is it doing what you do now versus when you were only working for the networks? Yes, I was talent.

That's it? Now I'm in partnership with these sponsors and advertisers and things of that nature. We're partners. You're probably making so much more money too. I do okay. No, I know you do okay. No, I ain't got no comedy special,

but you know, I'm thinking about it. Yeah, yeah. Yo, should we trade banks? Should we trade bank accounts right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd like to trade with you because you're doing real well. No, no, no, no, you got more money than me, man. Hey, that Netflix money hit different

because I heard what they paid Rock and Chappelle. Yeah. You get that bag like? They don't pay the white guys that much. Man, go ahead over there. They don't, it's a reparations thing. That's DEI money? That's DEI money.

Yeah, that's DEI money. Nah, shout out Netflix, man. Sporting white comedians, go. When you got money, when you got real money, what was the first thing you buy? You buy anything extravagant? Like first stupid thing? Yeah.

I'll be honest, I got into watches for a sec, and then I got away from the watches. What'd you get? Do you know... Off catalog pieces? Yeah, do you know Vacheron Constantin? Yeah, I got the 222. That's a tough piece to get.

Yeah, that was like five, yeah. So that was my like holy grail. That's it? No, I got the 222. That's a tough piece to get. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's like, yeah. So that was my like holy grail. That's it? No, I got a few. Like I got the AP. I got like Daytona. I got like the- You like F.E. Jordan?

Beautiful watches. Man, beautiful watches. But I don't have any of those. Why'd you stop? I think, if I'll be honest with you, I think like I got them because it was me proving to myself and other people that I had a level of success. And then I think once I got used to that,

once I accepted that I had some. You had reached that level. Yeah, I didn't feel the need to do it. Or I did different, I buy something else, but yeah, I didn't feel the need to do it. Or I did different, like I'd buy something else, but yeah, I don't know, yeah. My focus is like, what would be more cool to me is just having enough money that I never have to work again.

So anything I do is purely, authentically, what I want to create. But I also got a daughter, and then hopefully we'll be able to expand our family. And like, you know, you have kids, that shit gets, they want to, you know, it's expensive having kids. I mean, to like, not work, I'm a long way from that.

But I'd give myself five years. You could not work in like, your just lifestyle would change. Yeah. But you, I imagine, I don't want to count your pockets, but I know you got enough money to not work. You just got to live differently. Yeah, yeah,, I don't want to count your pockets, but I know you got enough money to not work. You just got to live differently. Yeah, yeah, but I gave myself five years,

and I told the team, I said, look, save your pennies, because I got five. I ain't promising you anything after that. I can't imagine you not working. I know, everybody says that. But think about it, you've been, before we started, you were telling me that you were going to school full time as a kid, and then you were wrangling chickens.

Catching chickens, yeah. Klaxon chicken portrait. Shout out the Klaxon chicken portrait. And you were doing that for, you said it was six hours, so that's after school. No, we go school, if we had practice football, we had football practice, then we come home, do homework. My uncle would pick us up in the chicken truck.

We'd get up all practice, then we'd come home, do homework. My uncle would pick us up in the chicken truck. We'd get up probably about nine. We'd probably have to go 30 minutes to 45 minutes away. Get there about 9.30. We'd catch anywhere between eight and 12,000 chickens. It'd take us about three, three and a half hours to get that. We'd get home around midnight, one o'clock. Wash off, because we didn't have indoor plumbing.

We take up the sink. I read that, that is, I read you didn't take a shower until you were 15. Well, I went to a 4-H camp, but I didn't take a shower in a home until I was 20. My brother got us a home when he went pro. So that was the first time I actually took a shower in a home.

What was that like? You beat off? Man, I was like, man. Because for the longest time, you know, we bathed in tubs. We had to draw well water. Wow, so you're going to get the water in buckets, putting it in the tub, and then heating it? Well, we'd heat, a lot of times, like in the summertime,

we would fill the tub, a tin tub. Oh, so you fill it outside. It heats up throughout the day. Leave it in the sun, leave it in the sun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And heat it up so we come home from work, we take a shower, we take a bath in the tub. Yeah.

And you're sharing that tin tub? Yeah. So the last person that goes in, it's just you. It was just me and my brother watching the tin tub. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's just such a remarkable, like the delta, what you've been able to achieve in your life.

Yeah. From not having like plumbing or indoor, like a shower to where you are right now. Holy, do you ever think about that? I do. Do you have like a, is there like, do you feel entitled to your success? Do you have the confidence to feel like entitled to it

or do you feel guilt about it ever? I had to learn, I had to stop feeling guilty because I started to beat myself up. Like what? Because I had a coffee so much and everybody else that was around me didn't. And so I, I wouldn't buy certain things.

I wouldn't dress a certain way because I didn't want people to look at me. But then I started to realize that they're going to feel that way no matter what. Why should I deny myself? How is that going to make you feel better about yourself because I'm denying myself? Because you look at me, you're like, he got money, he can afford that. So I was just doing it and I was like, man, I'm done with that. If I want it, I'm gonna get it. If I don't, yeah, I dress in, man, you got all that money,

you dress in Lulu, okay, and? What age is this that you start to change your mentality? Post football? Yeah. Got it. Yeah. Because I was looking like, man, you feel me, I felt bad. I felt bad because I'm like, man, you feel me, I felt bad.

I felt bad because I'm like, man, I got this, Lord has blessed me so much. Not just monetarily, but my family. Lord, you heard that, the Lord, right? Yeah. We got him back. We got him back. He's back, boys.

We got him. Okay, keep going. So yeah, and I was like, man, but sure as I ain't gonna lie, just like, man, one day I just woke I was like, man, but, sure as I ain't gonna lie, just like, man, one day I just woke up and said, man, look, I'm gonna do what I wanna do. If I wanna go spend X for this, I'm gonna spend that for that. I don't spend.

Was there a cat, there was no catalyst? It was just your frustration? Yeah, because then they dawned on me. You were living a fake life almost. Yes, because I was living for other people. Man, I can't buy this, because people gonna, they can't get it're living a fake life almost. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was living for other people. Man, I can't buy this because people going, they can't get it. So I'm going to feel, they're going to look down and feel like I'm looking down on them and then I feel bad.

Yep. And now it's almost like you're like turning your nose up at your blessing. You know what I mean? Like you've been blessed with all this. I've been blessed. And you don't have to live a life that like when you buy something for you, it's not on somebody else.

And if they're gonna have those feelings, they can have those feelings regardless. But you should be able to. Yeah, but I do get, I don't really buy a whole lot of stuff for me. I do give back a lot. I am, you know, my furniture people like, bro, it's okay.

You can keep some for yourself. You don't have to be. But it feels good to give back, right? It does, it really does. And I've always wanted, I saw people, I just don't want people to know that I give back. So I don't do anything publicly. That's interesting, yeah.

Like, yeah, good for you on that. Yeah, yeah. How was it roasting Tom Brady? Oh, that was pretty awesome. That might have been one of the best roasts. That was the old school roast. Yeah. When, what was the guy like when they had Carabinette and all those guys?

Don Rickles. Don Rickles back then. A lot of stereotypes. Don Martin. Look, excuse me. A lot of stereotypes. What was the Martin guy named? Dean Martin.

Dean Martin. There's no way they could do shows like that anymore. Ain't no way. They did. We did it. Yeah, but it was no holes barred. There was nothing. But y'all were trick, but I'm saying that's the one thing I don't think that's coming back anytime because you know back in the 70s, bro, it was crazy. If you look at some of the sitcoms, they said the N word, they said a lot. Yeah, it was wild. Yeah. But I think with the Rose, I think everybody also, I think the pendulum has swung. I think culture is like moving away from sensitivity.

And this happens, like it moves away and then it goes too far this way and then you need to correct and this is just culture and America and the world. But that night was, that weekend was crazy. Really? So, Brady Rose was Sunday. I did my shows at MSG Friday and Saturday.

So, my whole life I had one dream in comedy, which was to headline Madison Square Garden. I was born and raised in New York City. So I have Friday and Saturday at Madison Square Garden, which we don't even know if we're going to get the shows canceled because the Knicks playoff run. So literally so many things had to happen in the basketball playoffs for even to maintain those shows.

And then we go Friday, Saturday, and then I fly out Sunday to do the Rosentomers. You flew private, didn't you? They flew us out. Netflix did the right thing. They did the right thing. You fly private too, though, don't you? Nah, it's too expensive.

I'm not there. That's like the next level. I have, listen, I have done it. But when you do it, you know this more than anybody, but what I like doing, to be honest with you, I really like, because I don't come from crazy money, so when I get to do money, I love explaining it to people who also don't have money.

Because I like to put them on game on all the shit that I get to learn about for the first time. The jump from first class to private is 10X. It's 10X. So if it's- PJ compared to first class to you in the last row by the bathroom. Hold on. In economy.

But it's so convenient. It is. You pull right up, the plane's gonna leave when you want to leave. When you want, yeah. And you got food. Hey, what would you like? It's amazing.

So what is, but that's the thing. It's like to fly private every single time. Who know? You need like $100 million or something like that's the thing, it's like to fly private every single time. Who know? You need like a hundred million dollars or something like that in the bank. Like what type of people fly private all the time? Yeah, especially as much as we travel. Yeah.

Because I mean, I'm traveling, I'm doing a couple hundred thousand miles a year. Wow. So you're doing every week you're on a plane. Damn near. So yeah, and basically the math for like private flights. You probably looking at, I mean to fly full time, you're probably looking at three to five million dollars

to fly as much. So me and good old Delta. Delta's a bad, I don't even care if the plane spins. Delta really is the best. You can't fly anybody else. Shout out Delta. Give me my 360 back. Yeah, hey, let me ask you this, man.

You know, y'all, y'all the hell no hoes barb. Y'all had no hoes barb with Brady because y'all talking about the man. What y'all had, they were killing the man, even the wife's wife. Ex-wife, that divorce must have been bad because he had no problem with those jokes. He was just like, yo, let me, he's like,

don't talk about my kids. And we're like, your wife is cool. And he's like, yo, don't talk about my kids. And we were like, your wife is cool. And he was like, you know. Yeah, when Kev was, Thomas is the greatest for doing that, but when Kev kept calling him the karate man, that was killing me. That was killing me.

And now she had a kid. Yeah, what do you think about that? I don't think nothing, and they my ex-wife. Yeah. Have you ever been married? I have, that would be tough. So you have-wife. Yeah. Have you ever been married? I haven't. That would be tough. So you have three kids.

Three. Same woman? No. How many women? Three. Damn. Yeah. You were getting after it.

I was. And then what happened? You found out what condoms were? Yeah, it was, whew. What? Boy, hey, every time I hear Shannon, I'm pregnant. I was like, et tu, Brute? But it would be tough.

I think the thing is with Tom is that he's probably thinking, and a lot of people are like, hold on, Tom Brady got all this money. Why does he need to do that? No, he's got all this money and he still couldn't keep his ex happy. Oh yeah, because they don't want money. So maybe she wanted time, maybe she wanted attention, I don't know what she wants. Tom seems to be happy he's moved on, clearly she's moved on. But I think in the back of his mind he he's like, this is probably what's going on

right in front of my face. And I don't know. I don't know about that, but I imagine, yeah, I don't know, I can't comment. Again, the only reason I would even talk about her is because she's a public figure. Right. Like, I don't talk about-

Would you make jokes about her now? Yeah, but she's a public figure. I don't talk about people's wives or families because they didn't ask to be in this. Right. You know what I mean? I do. But if your wife is Kim Kardashian or your wife is a famous person,

you've asked to be part of entertainment. But just talking about some randomness, I don't care. But yeah, I don't know. Relationships end, man. It sucks, but they do. Also, it's probably hard. I bet Tom would even acknowledge it. It's probably hard being married to a guy

with that und- Singular focus and drive. Oh my God. Is the end all be all for him. And that's probably what makes him so great. And I think LeBron even said it recently, it's like greatness is sacrificing time with your family. There's a singular focus.

Yeah, that's what I don't wanna do. And it's boring. It's very monotonous to be great. You felt that. Yes. And it is the embracing of the monotony, which is the difference maker between the really good player and the great player.

Yeah. I eat the same thing for 27 straight years. I ate oatmeal every day for 27 straight years. I eat the same thing. I eat pretty much at the same time. I get up at the same time. I do the exact same thing. Like that's why I find it hard to believe

that you'll retire Meaning just stop doing things right? It's like your Superpower is the ability to get up and do right like if you could refine it to the most simple thing You can get up and do the same thing no matter what is happening for longer Than 99.9 percent of people probably Despite how annoying it is. Yes, like despite that like emotional suffering what is happening for longer than 99.9% of people probably. Despite how annoying it is, like despite that emotional suffering, you'll just do it. And most people be like,

ah, I don't want to do it today. You eat oatmeal every day. I did for 27 years, from 1993 to 2020. I ate the same thing every day. I pretty much get up at the same time every day. I do the same thing every day. So if you get up at the same time every day. I do the same thing every day. So if you stop this, you'll need to fill it with something. Yeah, I would.

And it bothers me. I'm a very meticulous individual. You go in my pantry and you look, all the labels are facing out. You go in my refrigerator, all the labels are facing out. Are you OCD a little bit? I am. Everything is hanging up in my closet. It's hanged up a certain way, long sleeves,

short sleeves, colors. Really? Yeah. And how is this helpful to you in your life, you think? I feel like if it's out of place, my life is out of place. So the attention to detail applies also to, I imagine, the podcast. I imagine it applies to the podcast. I imagine it applies to shows. Yes, everything needs to work. I'm not an easy person to work for.

Yeah, that's, I was about to say that. No, no. I'm not an easy person to work for. Yeah, yeah. But I think the thing is my team now, they know me, they've been around me for a very, very long time. They know how I am.

I'm a very attention to detail guy. I want things to operate a certain way. And if they don't operate that way, I need to know why. What's an example of this? Like, what is a... I don't hate, I don't like, don't tell me. I don't like being late. That's one of my biggest pet peeves.

Because you're telling me, F my time. You say my time isn't important. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like, don't tell me what can't be done. Tell me like, okay, we're gonna figure this thing out. Yes, I think that's a huge, I think Dov and I were talking about this earlier actually,

but it's just like, it's not even worth using our brain to justify why things can't happen. I don't want to use any brain power for that at all. I just want to know why it can. And even if in your heart you're going, there's no way this can happen, I want you to tell me a potential solution to make it happen.

Because that type of like philosophy, that type of brain power into executing a task, will nine out of 10 times lead you further. You might not get to the destination, but you're gonna inch a little bit closer. Yeah, that's great. Okay, what else? This is good.

So that's what I told CJ, okay, we're doing good. What can we do to make club shay-shay better? And I need that tomorrow. I love it. So it's constant improvement. Yes. He said, what about if we did live entertainment before? So certain episodes we have, we had Teddy Swims perform. We've had Cash Doll perform. His voice is incredible. Unbelievable. We had Ty Tribbitt. So that's kind of the direction that we're going in

because I want to turn this thing into like a talk show feel, like Arsen any of your hall? Did you have to get the rights to his song? Yeah, he signed off on it and he signed off on it to play. Yeah. Well, he's fun. You lie on the show Yeah, I know but like, you know, there's like yes. Yes. Yes Label and all these other things. Yes. Yes, cuz I yeah Wow. Yeah, he's his voice is beautiful. He's unbelievable. So yes, we Wow, yeah, his voice is beautiful. He's unbelievable. So yes, we grind. And I think the thing is with us is that my team, they've been around me for an extended period of time.

They know how I am. We're gonna work. You're gonna get paid. More than fair. But I expect when I call, I expect you to pick up. Yeah, and dedication. Yeah. Unbelievable. Because, and dedication, yeah. Unbelievable, because we want the same thing.

We want to see Shayshae Media, we want to see it grow. Everybody, there's enough credit for everybody. CJ has his role, Ash has her role, Rhea has her role, Jordan has his role, my executive assistant, Shelly, she plays her part, everybody has a role. There's an expectation. There's not I demand it. I love it I'm never gonna ask any more than I'm willing to give if I say be here at a certain time You best believe I'm gonna be there. Love it. I'm gonna give you my best. I expect nothing but your best in return That's it and we get along great

It's good leadership, but I think that's the only way you can do things You can never ask more than you're willing to give. And if you do that, they'll respect you. You got Tony. Can I ask you a real quick question? Sure. Was that an expectation that like Sterling set for you? My grandfather. Was your grandfather? Yeah. Got it. He didn't do the excuses. No excuses whatsoever. Even as a young boy, but he was always harder on my brother, and that's why I say my brother was kind of like my father.

And I remember the day, and I told this before, is that he was really hard on me one day. And we grew up on a farm. And my grandmother asked him, say, Barney, why are you so hard on that boy? And he said, Mary, when you live on a farm and you're around heavy equipment and you're around animals, I need him to know the utmost, the importance of this. For his safety. Because I only get a chance, I might only get a chance to tell him something once, Mary. So I need him to know this is of the utmost importance because he could lose a limb, he could lose his life,

he'd get in there with them hogs and they can kill him. And so I understood one time, that's why, that's how I am. And it's unfair. What do you mean? It's unfair because everybody doesn't see things. It doesn't grasp things like I do. And that was the hardest thing for me, Shultz, is that to get people to see things like I see them as soon as I see them. But they say, well, Shannon, that's in your head.

It's not in ours. You need to relay it to us. How can you communicate to us in a way that is effective? You're not just hammering me. You're helping me understand and helping me learn. Yes. Yes. And that was the hardest thing. Because you know, things that I'm a visual learner, some people learn, I need to see it. You know, you tell me, don't tell me to play draw it on the board. Okay, I got it.

Everybody learns things differently. And so I had to learn to be a great leader. You have to be willing to be led. That's the only way you can be a leader. CJ, Ash, everybody's job, real, everybody's job is to be my rear view mirror, is to protect my blind spots. What I don't know, you should know.

I only surround myself with people like that. Don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I need't know, you should know. I only surround myself with people like that. Don't tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I need to know. If I need to know it, tell me. Even if I don't want to hear it, they have my ear, they have my respect, I'll listen to what they say. CJ wants this, it wants a particular guess,

I might not agree with it, I trust his judgment. I trust real judgment. She's a chief of sales, she said, I think we ought to do this deal. I think long-term it might be great for us. I trust her. Ash, the same thing on that cap. Jordan, when he's taking photos,

he's like, I think we ought to do it like this. I trust him. If I can't trust you, implicitly, if I can't trust you implicitly. It's not there. We can't work together. Nope. Yeah, I think that's really smart. It's not there. We can't work together. No. Yeah, I think that's really smart. It's healthy. Yeah, in order to lead, you have to be willing to be led. You have to trust

the people that are working with you enough to put you in positions that you might not be confident about yet. You're confident in them. Yeah, the situation. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's great. Tony, how do you say his name? Hinchcliff.. Yeah, shout out Tony man. He got in trouble with the the Puerto Rican drogue Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they got it. Did you have a did you uh, have you talked to him? Yeah, of course I mean Tony's the man so Tony's got like the biggest show. He created the show called kill Tony and it's like the biggest Like I think it's the biggest live podcast on the planet, but it's also like right now the biggest platform for putting on new young comics. And it's like huge. It's like sprouted all these careers and it's a phenomenal show called Kill Tony.

And but yeah, he was at that MSG rally for Trump and then he said that joke. And so I actually heard him talk about it since then and he was saying he was referencing, like I actually understand the joke a little bit more now. When I first heard it, I was like, oh, I go, oh, Tony, this is a perfect example. I go, oh, Tony doesn't know how we feel about Puerto Rico. So in New York, Puerto Rico is like our first exotic trip. If you're a New Yorker and you don't come from like crazy money, your first trip, you're not really out of the country, you're in the country.

But you go to Puerto Rico, I remember the first time I went to Puerto Rico, and I'm seeing a lot of aloe plants, I'm getting a sunburn, I'm breaking off the leaf and rubbing on myself, I'm like, oh my God, this is incredible. So there's this like really endearing quality to us. Like also New Yorkers. We love Puerto Ricans. Yes There's a thing about New Yorkers like everybody plays a role here, you know, like each group We with yes, everybody. Yes Chinatown fire, right, you know, you had to get your PlayStation hack so you could put the fake DVDs We're in Chinatown in a mall underground like your boy had to connect like

Everybody has their role and we all kind of work and there's this beautiful symbiotic relationship. Everybody's aware of everybody else, right? That's why it's the greatest city in the world in my opinion Because the talents of each group gets a flourish and we all appreciate them and interact together and it's so small We have to LA is spread out. out, you know what I mean? The Persians can live over here, the Armenians can live over here, like everybody can be spread out. New York, we don't have that luxury.

We're in the shit. So I think that he, my first interaction was, oh, he doesn't know that we see Puerto Rico as this like beautiful exotic island. Then I heard him talking about, he was like, no, this is an old joke that I had, and there was like a floating, this is an old joke that I had and there was like a floating like trash thing in the ocean, which was like a big deal that they

were trying to figure out and like clean up. Right, what to do with it, yeah. So he was actually referencing like an actual climate issue with like recycling. But still, I think that if he was like in New York and working it out at clubs, he'd be like, oh, they're not going to get this, let me change this for something else. I don't think he has a personal vendetta for Puerto Rico. You see what I'm saying?

Maybe to our conversation earlier, it's a placeholder that works inside the Joe. It's not like, oh, this is how I secretly feel about Puerto Ricans, I'm going to get it out now. Not at all. Let me ask you a question. If you were to host the White House Correspondents Dinner. I would do that.

You would? That's something I would do. I think I could do it. I think I could do it the best. Really? Yeah, I think I could do it the best. You think he's going to invite you to do it? Well, it's not up to him.

But it's, and I think her name is Amber Ruffman. I think she's going to do it this year. But like, I think I could do it because I think I name is Amber Ruffman. I think she's gonna do it this year. But I think I could do it because I think I make fun of everybody. I think the concern about that dinner is that usually it's just a pundit that's only left wing. Or like, yeah. And then the jokes just go in one direction.

And I like the idea, the concept. You want everybody to get it. Yo, how beautiful is it? This is why America's amazing. The leader of the free world the the concept you want everybody to get it. Yo How beautiful is it? Like this is why America is amazing, right? The leader of the free world the leader of our country, right? submits themselves for public humiliation once a year Like what a beautiful like this is how you know that we don't want tyranny, right? The king would never step down to be made fun of in front of the whole world or in front of the whole country The king would never step down to be made fun of in front of the whole world or in front of the whole country.

But this idea that our fearless leader, the one that should control everything, gets to get humbled in front of everybody, it's beautiful. It's like why comedy is so important to me, like so important to the American identity. It's this great tool to let you know, hey, you're regular. Tom Brady is the goat and we got to make fun of him like he's some regular guy. Cut his ass up. But he's, you know what I mean? And like you look at somebody who's willing to submit themselves to that and you go,

how cool is that? How much humility does he have to even do this? He could be so much better than me on a private island or doing whatever, but instead he's like, yeah, make fun of me and make fun of my life. So I love that conceptually and I love that like as part of the American identity.

He did the other, for pretty penny, so I'll let y'all cut me up part of the American. He did the in a pretty penny, so I'll let y'all cut me up too for the record. You might be there. Might be you soon. What about Tiger Woods? I think that's who should be next. You want Tiger to the gun? Oh, yeah.

I mean, the amount of jokes, like. Oh, yeah, you been right. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I mean, just, I'm already smiling at what we can say. Tiger? Oh, dude. You got a joke already lined up for it?

I'm trying to think, like what is it, like, oh fuck, I don't know. What is the thing with Tiger? You know, Tiger's half black, but every time he gets in a car, he tries to prove how Asian he is. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Tiger. No, Tiger would be great. Obviously Jordan, but I don't think Jordan would do it. He wouldn't do it. Have you met MJ? I have.

And what was your interaction with him like? He's mythical. Yeah. Yeah, he is. Mythical. I've never met, and I've met some very, very famous people. I've never met anybody like Michael Jordan. He doesn't even seem real.

What is it? Are you nervous when you're talking to him? It's like he's elevated. He's like he's glowing. Are you seeing the movie The Last Dragon with Bruce Lee he's elevating. He's like he's glowing. Are you seeing the last dragon with Bruce Lee going? When he had that thing, he was glowing. He doesn't seem real.

I mean, the first time that I saw him, I'm looking at him. And he's probably looking at me thinking like, this dude's weird. Man, Sterling Sharple, little brother, weird as hell. I'm just looking at him. I'm like, and he's levitating. That man's feet were not on that floor in that elevator. And every time I see him. Oh, you went in an elevator with him. As a matter of fact, I got on the elevator and he and his first wife, Juanita, was already on it.

And I always was like, man, I like F it, I'm getting it. I like F it. And you know, I always introduce myself, hello, I'm Shannon Shar. I'm just like, I'm getting it. And you know, I always introduce myself, hello, I'm Shadow Sharpie. Like, I know you're our brother. Wow, okay, so obviously he's aware of you, but like, it's nice to know that he even says that. I love, you know, love your brother,

you and your brother, man, I love what y'all guys do, keep it up. And then every time I've seen him since, I get the same reaction. It's like I'm seeing him for the first time and he's levitating. But he ain't gonna do that. No, no, no, no, no.

What about acting? You did the remake, right? White man can't jump in the underdog. I did a little something in there. Is that something you would like to do full time? It's kind of boring acting. I'd like to make a movie. It's too much sitting around in it.

It's sitting around, bro. You've done it. You just sit around all day and it's just like. I mean, doing commercials is, I can imagine doing a two hour movie because you're on a 30 second commercial and you're there 12 hours. Bro, for you people, I was there for a week.

I think I did like one day of acting and I just sat in a trailer for the rest of the week. And it's just like, oh yeah, I got other shit I can do here. You know what I mean? I'm not like an actor. I get that they don't do anything. They sit around all day, but like we got shit to do.

But I would like to make a movie. I'd like to make a movie. Yeah, because I think that like don't do anything, they sit around all day, but we got shit to do. But I would like to make a movie. I'd like to make a movie. Yeah, because I think that writing it is fun, and then also when you write it and you create it, watching the other people do their lines is really exciting, because you're watching this shit come to life. So to me, storytelling is just,

it's the earliest form of digesting information. It's like you come into a room and you go, yo, I got a story, the whole room stops talking. Like it's really amazing how humans are. Like I imagine even in a locker room, I imagine the person that could hold court was the person that could really command that attention. Tell those stories.

And yeah, to me I would love to, I think doing a film, a film is the most profound version of that. Right. Is it true Jonah Hill and Laura London had a fake CJ? Oh yeah. Why didn't he do the real thing? CJ, CJ looking through the headlines. Why didn't he do the real thing?

I don't know, I don't know. But I was watching it with Doug, it was so funny. I was watching it with Doug, we were watching it, his house, and I looked at the last scene and I was like, oh, because I remember them, this became some big story. And like the network got upset at me. And I was like, what are you upset at me for? This is an international news story.

You should pay me. I just promoted the out of the movie. And plus people gonna watch to see it. Just to see the kids. And it's not like they got to go to the movie theater. They just got to turn on Netflix. So yeah, I was like, you should be very grateful. That's what I thought.

But yeah, whatever, she got her reasons. I don't know why everybody was so upset about it. It's like, yo, if a girl doesn't wanna do a kiss, why can't she do a kiss? Why are people so upset about that? Like, shouldn't she be pro-women feeling comfortable? That's what I was. Like, I'm pro-women feeling comfortable.

And then all these people are like, Dave, better kiss. It's like, why don't you relax. Just let her do what she wants. Some of us care about black women. Yeah, we do. Some of us do. Hey, we in the movie.

Some of us do. You won't get in an elevator with them. No, I won't get in an elevator with any single woman. Regardless of race. Is there anything that you wouldn't do in a movie? You do a sex scene? Would I do a sex scene? My wife doesn't want me to, but.

Yeah, I'd be up in that. No, no, no. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not gonna get my cheeks clapped. Actually, I did do a gay scene in a movie. You did? But I wasn't in it. It wasn't in it.

Were you in a dress? No, no, no, no. Would you wear a dress? Yeah I don't know why like that's a big deal with the dress shit. That's so stupid like no It's only it's only a big only with black dudes and it's like it's so dumb that you have that different standard It's like the idea of like somebody robin Williams wore dress Dustin Hoffman. I think every guy wears a foot. What did you see? Arnold Schwarzenegger, where's another? Yeah, do you know what it really is? This is what it comes down to. It's seeing someone hyper masculine wear a dress is funny.

And if you want to talk about the racism of it, the racism is people perceive black men as being hyper masculine. I don't know if that's like an insult. Maybe you find that as something that you're proud of. But the perception is hyper masculine. So seeing someone who's hyper masculine in a dress is funny.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is hyper masculine. So in a dress he's funny. How many of you see Jonah Hill in his tits in a dress? Do you know what I mean? It's not that funny. So it's like, to me that's the takeaway. But then I guess, I don't know who said it, but they're like, oh, they're trying to

emasculate all these black men. It's like, I don't think Hollywood has this grand design. How can we emasculate all black guys? I just think that it's like a low-hanging fruit. It's like the easiest version of a joke, and it's just lazy writing, frankly. I read that you went to Shreveport to check out a feature C&G unit film.

50 Cent is the GOAT, bro. goat bro 50 asked me I'm pulling up Love 50. Yeah, 50 is the goat if 50 doesn't with you. I don't with you, but I just don't know why yet But he's never wrong if he doesn't like you right? There's a reason really and in my suspicion He knows the reason but he doesn't snitch right so He just doesn't tell right, but he'll say he doesn't with you like he'd been saying the diddy forever And all of us were like, oh you just hate and I was like, uh, so if he doesn't like you I'll you ain't go to the party. You end up into one of them diddy parties. I wasn't cool enough, bro. You went bro I just I just got on like a year and a half ago, bro

No, that's what everybody says right? I did I'm supposed to act like you and a half ago, bro. That's what everybody says, right? I did. I'm supposed to act like you're not a three-time Super Bowl champion going to Diddy Party's left and right. That ain't got invited nowhere. Yeah, all right. You probably would have went to Epstein's Island. Nah.

Shannon, what if they said it was a Lululemon outlet and everything was 50% off? What if they said there's half off lulus at the Epstein's Island? I'd go right up here in Beverly Hills and go to Lulu. You think? But I think that you would have gone beautiful on private. No. No? No.

Not for any of the girls stuff. I'm not a party guy. You're not a party guy? No. What if they had the best oatmeal? What if every morning it was the best oatmeal you've ever had? No, I'm good. I ain't on my team.

You never went to one freak out? Not one. Nothing? No. Or Freaknik? What is it called? Oh, Freaknik. I was at? Not one. Nothing? No. Or Freaknik? What is it called?

Oh Freaknik, I was at Freaknik. Now hold on man, hold on. That's a whole different story. Freaknik is 10 times crazier than a- Freaknik is a whole different story now. That's 10 times crazier than a- That's a whole different episode. Tell me about the Freaknik, man.

Freaknik would like that. Was it crazy or what? Ooh, was it crazy. And what, yeah, can you explain what that, is it even legal to explain? Well, they did away with it. It had gotten so big, it had gotten so out of control. So this is happening in Florida?

No, this is Atlanta. Oh, it's Atlanta? Yeah. Where am I think? Where the Uncle Luke? Oh, that was Daytona. That was Black College Beach Week. But Uncle Luke came to Freaknik too. Uncle Luke, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

And what happens? It's just... Shut it down. They got just... It just got too, it got too big. It got too crazy. They were just like, you ended up, businesses had to shut because people were not, they didn't know how to behave, because it was cool when it was just college students. And then it became this.

Then because grown people started, and you know, and guys just started getting disrespectful with the women, and they just, the traffic was gridlocked and people started it and you know, and guys just started getting disrespectful with the women and they just, the traffic was gridlocked and people started complaining and they just like. Bro, you know what's funny? The same thing happens to White Freak Nick, which is Spring Break.

Yeah. Where was that at? It was doing it in Cancun and they were doing it in a bunch of places. Oh yeah, MTV. Yeah, MTV. And I remember I was working for MTV back in the day. I hosted like the last ever Spring Break

and I knew it was over because the sponsors were like K-Mark. And I was like, yeah, that's not a sexy sponsor. You know what I mean? But I remember seeing the people in the crowd. And this is supposed to be like a college thing. And I remember seeing like 35 year old British guys. Yeah, this is a little weird. So that's really what it is.

It's just the old people started showing up. You got to find old people parties. Yeah, and they started showing up and emptied it up. You's just the old people started showing up. Yeah. You gotta find old people parties. Yeah, and they started showing up and emptied it up and it was... You gotta go to Burning Man, bro. I gotta take you to Burning Man. Where's that at? You never heard of Burning Man?

I haven't. Oh man. It's this amazing party, event. I don't even know what to call it, but we just gotta go out to the desert. Gotta go out to the desert. Where is it at? Where is it exactly?

Black Rock City. is that Nevada? Yeah, Nevada. Yeah, Nevada, Black Rock City, Nevada. And then you just basically drive your little Winnebago out there, we hang out for the week, do party. You still do it? I've gone a few times, I might go back this year,

I gotta talk to the wife, you know? We gotta negotiate these things. So I guess this is for older people. Diddy used to go there a lot, actually. Oh, no, I'm good. No, but it's not his thing, but he did go there. We tried to distance ourselves from that, but I didn't go to any Diddy parties at Burning Man.

I'm not a crowd guy. Oh, really? Mm-mm. But you're such a performer. You've got such a... Yeah. You're good with the tension. Look, and when people ask me,

this is how I describe myself. I'm the most outgoing introvert you're gonna meet. Interesting. I'm exhausted at outgoing introvert you're gonna meet. Interesting. I'm exhausted at the end of the day. It's a real effort for you to do it. Got it. I go home, I don't really talk. I mean, I had a girlfriend and her friend's like,

man, he gotta be so much fun. I mean, you see him on television. And she was like, he's nothing like that at home. Really? So you're quiet, you're in your head. Yeah. Are you like plotting and thinking? I am thinking. I'm thinking how do we grow this?

How do I make this better? How do I get better at this? How do I get better at my job at ESPN? How do I get better at Club Shae Shae? How do I get better at Nightcap? How can we scale Shae Shae Media? What do we need? Yeah.

Hmm. Constantly competing. Yeah. How can we scale Shea Shea Media? What do we need? Yeah Hmm constantly competing. Yeah But I'm my competition say again, I'm my competition there's nobody else what about Ocho Ocho is my partner. Oh, so you brought in your biggest competition as your partner Genius. No, I just thought I thought Ocho would be great. He's phenomenal. Because he gets the entertainment aspect of it and he doesn't take himself seriously. That's the thing, he's able to laugh at himself.

That is an incredibly endearing quality. It is, it is. Yeah, I think that's, and it's very rare. Very. You can make fun of him and he'll laugh. But he'll also hit you with his hands too. I don't want him and Cam to beef anymore. Can we stop that?

I don't know what that's about. I don't know anything about that. I didn't know Cam, you know. Shout out Cam and Mace, what they've made. Yeah, they do what they do. But I'm not in competition with them. We do what we do. Like I said, they print 80% of the money

in the last five years. They'll print more. We don't have to be in competition. If we get something, that doesn't mean you lost. If you get something, that don't mean we lost. That's the way I look at it. Now everybody doesn't look at it that way. Everybody wants us to be in competition.

I'm not in competition with them guys. Ochoa and I are not in competition. We believe it is what it is, the pivot, all the smoke, or who the fourth and one cam Bro, y'all do what y'all do. We would do we do and then continue to do each other stuff. Yes each other Oh, sure. This is what Rogan did so brilliantly. Yeah, it's like all the guys Populated each other's podcasts and then everybody rose up. What did you learn about work when you was working at MTV? What did you learn? hmm, um That you gotta I learned a lot of things.

I learned how to kind of behave on set. I learned how to interact with other people in the business, like what they're looking for, who are the real ones, who are the fake ones. I met some real friends there. I met Charlemagne there, I met a little Duval there, mentors, Duval is likeval there, like mentors. Like Duval is like his huge mentor for me.

Everything that I've done in standup is based on something that Lil Duval's already done. I don't think Duval gets enough credit for the influence he's had on comedy and internet culture. People are copying things he's done without even knowing that he was the first one to do it. Yeah, he did that 10, 15, at the beginning. He's a genius.

Yeah. He's also like a literal, like if you sit with him and you're just around him, Yeah. you, yeah, you're feeling something, yeah, it's just weird. It's like wise beyond his ears. It's a very interesting sensation when you're around him. He's a, guy and he's like one of the few mentors that I've had in comedy and just entertainment.

How did you and Charlamagne decide to get together and do a pod? Man, he asked me. He was like, yeah, you want to do it? Because we would just talk all the time like during the week things would happen. I would have asked you. Yeah, which you know, it's fun. Too late now. Yeah, you got me. You know, you gotta fight him. No, but we would just talk throughout the week. We're just on the phone and like just, you know,

talking and just making jokes about whatever. And he has this great line where he's, we even say it on the pod, like, when anybody brings up a topic, you know, we just go, I just wanna let you all know we're not mature enough to have this conversation. So no matter what it is, we're not mature enough. So if you choose to listen, that's on you,

because we told you we're not mature enough. But, and then he was, that's on you, because we told you we're not mature enough. But, and then he was like, yo, you should do this pod. And then Chris Moreau is the guy who produced the pod. He was pitching it to him. And then we just started it, and like, you know, he's just, he's the greatest radio personality of my lifetime, you know? So it's like him talking on a mic, he's just,

he's mastered it. And he, I learned so much just from him in general. He's just, he's also a genius And I learned so much just from him in general. He's just, he's also a genius. Like true marketing genius. He definitely gets it. He definitely gets it. Genius.

So yeah, just getting to do that every single week. And then just the show's been going on for 10 years. People like, different people are just finding out about it now. And like, we've been doing this for 10 years. It's so funny. Cause like when white people will talk to him about the show sometimes, they. And like, like we've been doing this for 10 years. It's so funny. Because like when, when white people will talk to him about the show sometimes, they'll be like, yo, I see you doing that. I see you on Andrew Schulz's show.

And then black people will talk to me about it. They'll be like, yo, I saw you on Charlamagne show. And we're just like, ah, yeah, it's fine, dude. We don't need to explain this, but yeah, it's just awesome. He's just, um, pure entertainment. How do you think podcasts have helped you? I think what it did is allowed me to create authentically. So like, before that, well not even before that, but like, I don't want to make my only money

to provide for my family with my art. Right. Because then you're compromised. It's like, you need to go out there and do shows. So now I'm rushing jokes. I'm rushing the next tour. I'm doing whatever. And podcasting has allowed me to maintain my life

and then make sure that the art is 100% authentic in terms of what I want to create. And I'm like the most grateful for that. It's also great for like building an audience and an understanding of who you are. And like, despite people misunderstanding you on the internet or believing like these headlines, you got, you know, hundreds of thousands of people

that really know who you are, and they're there to ride for you when shit goes south. Louisa Mangione has received 500,000 in donations. How is this possible, man? Well, you want to know.? Well you want to know. Yeah, I want to know. The way that Americans react to these events will tell you everything about how they feel towards these institutions.

Americans are hurting, bro. They're upset. They feel disillusioned. Like, they don't trust the government. They don't trust the medical industry. They don't trust the pharmaceutical industry, they don't trust the food, they don't trust the wars that we're in. So when one of these guys that's at the head of a healthcare company gets clipped in brutal, disgusting fashion, like we shouldn't be laughing about it, we're already so hurt, we're already

so destitute that we're like, ah, f*** that guy. Yeah. People are like, oh, he deserved it, charging all those high ass prices for all that medicine. For real. Yeah, that's what I think. But if I'm the companies or if I'm the billionaire class, I'm these super rich people, I'm looking at that and I'm going, okay, we're pushing them too much.

In other words, I imagine, I don't know, I don't got that kind of money, but I imagine the people who got all the money, the billionaires, they don't want poor people to be too poor because then we show up at your door with the guns and we start shooting you. You need poor people to have just enough where they don't want to rebel and revolt, right?

The poor gotta be a little rich. They gotta have a little something. They gotta have a little something. Cause they don't have enough, they'll come get it from somewhere. Cause if I'm dying anyway, I'm gonna kill you. So if you're the super rich, you have to look at a moment like that and you gotta go,

we gotta get these poor people some money. Because if they don't have money, they're knocking on my door. So if I'm Jeff Bezos, if I'm Elon, if I'm Zuckerberg, if I'm all these guys, whatever that billionaire class is, I'm going, hey, how can we get Americans some money? Because they are not happy. And they're supporting a guy who just clipped a dude

who's not even a high, he's not even a billionaire. Right. That, like, that's the shit that I'm looking at. How did growing up in New York shape you with the diversity that, because like you said, New York has everything. Yeah. And they're right there.

Greatest city. So you had to, like, it wasn't like, like me, I mean, like, I went to school with whites, but we was here, they were there. How did that shape what we see, the Andrew shows that we see sitting here today? It showed me how awesome people are. People are awesome, and their cultures are awesome.

And I got firsthand knowledge of it. I got to go see what a bar mitzvah is, and a bat mitzvah is. I got to see these Jewish kids turn into men and women, and they're holding the chairs and jumping up. And I'm like, wow, that looks really cool. I would want that for a birthday party. You know what I mean? I got to try foods you wouldn't imagine. And I got to see the way that like, my Dominican friend's mom was just so like doting and loving on her children and how protective and

kind and like, I got to see the most amazing things about all these different cultures. I think that's where my curiosity stemmed from. I got to see how hard these Chinese people would work, man. Like these kids that I would go to school with, they're going to school seven days a week. You know what I mean? It's not like shocking they're getting 1600 on their SCTs. They're working their ass off.

And I got to see all that firsthand and it was beautiful. And I think that's where my curiosity and my kind of love for all these different cultures comes from, is I got to experience the best of it. And also, every one of us was kind of first generation American. My dad's from America, but my mom's not. So we're all got this immigrant kid mentality.

There's this hunger, There's this excitement. We don't have this lack of hope, which unfortunately I think a lot of people in America have right now. We were, it's like we were just dropped on America and we're in New York and it's time to get after it. So when we saw somebody with something, it didn't make us feel bad.

It made us inspired. We're like, oh, I'm gonna get that shit too. We were hustling from young kids. I was making fake DVD're like, oh, I'm gonna get that shit too. We were hustling from young kids. I was making fake DVDs and fake CDs. I'm trying to sell them to the kids in the school. I was doing anything I could to get some money. And I think that also came from all my friends around me

also trying to hustle. It was exciting. Like, it was just, yeah, my upbringing was wild. Like, I saw a lot of shit maybe at a younger age than most, but it's the greatest city in the world. It's the greatest city in the world. When you look at America, America was built not by natives. It was built by the slaves.

It was built by the immigrants from Europe. Why do you think the immigrants are treated so poorly today? Well, by whom? Us, as Americans, not me. I don't treat them fairly. Because I think the thing is for me, I mean, they're doing jobs that I don't, I ain't trying to do those jobs no more. I did them.

I did them. We all did them. I worked in structure, I worked in manual labor jobs. A lot of the jobs that the Americans, I think the way they phrase it is that they're coming stealing your jobs. They ain't stealing no job that we want to do. Trust me. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Yeah, that's, that's, I mean, actually, I don't even know if that's right, because I don't know if there's an American out there who's like, I would love to do that job. Maybe there are, maybe there's plenty that don't. But I mean, when I went and interviewed Trump, there are three things I want to talk about. There's three things. Like, we had the opportunity to interview some who might be president. And some people are critical of even doing the interview. But the way I look at that is like, if you don't have the opportunity to interview some who might be president and some people were critical of even doing the interview But the way I look at that is like if you don't have the opportunity

You can't really say what you would or wouldn't do There's a lot of people that's president that's that that could gotta go be the president of the United States You absolutely take it right especially if you care about your country, right? Right, and who knows if I have any influence over Trump. I don't think I do but there's three things I want to talk about number one. I wanted him to say that he was protect IVF. That's how my wife and I had to have a kid we were able to conceive and okay and Two I was want to end foreign wars and three I wanted some compassion for illegal immigrants that are obeying the law They're hard-working. Yeah, if you break the law, you're doing crimes send the fuck out

You got unanimous support in America for that. I don't think there's any Americans like, well, let's keep all the murderers that are illegal. Like, get them out here. But if you have somebody that's working their ass off, they have a family here. A pathway to citizenship, I think, is, also you have to understand, like, my mom's an immigrant. It's impossible for me to not think that immigrants are what make America great.

So they make the best Americans. Every American that cries about how sh-t American is, right, none of them immigrated here. When you immigrate to America, you think that this is the greatest, you can't, my mom can't say a bad word about America. I'm telling you that you need that energy. That energy is infectious. That desire, it's what I grew up around. I grew up around all these people who are like,

holy shit, I got an opportunity to make it and I'm going after it. And yeah, I wish, I hope that this administration will look at that. It doesn't look like they're doing it, but I hope that they'll look at that and I hope we find a pathway to legalization for them. I mean, but the thing is that his wife is an immigrant,

Elon Musk is an immigrant. Yeah. I mean, a lot of, it seems like to me, a lot of times, Joseph, correct me if I'm wrong, a lot of times people achieve something, and once they get it, let's shut the door, don't let anybody else get it. Yeah.

Because you look at Marco Rubio, you look at a lot of people, their parents immigrated here. Now, oh, no, no, no, no, we don't want nobody else here. They would maybe argue that they did it legally or these things happen. But no, like they did, like his wife I guess did it legally and Elon did it legally. And I understand that there is a distinction.

Like my mom was able to do it, she was able to do it legally, right? But it doesn't stop the fact that like there are people here that are hardworking. they're benefiting the American economy and American lifestyle, and they're a net positive for us. Yeah, they pay taxes. Exactly.

So why don't we just, in my opinion, I think that the barter or whatever, the bargain is lock up that border. You have the right to have a strong border as a country. There's at least some people who are against having a strong border, which is just weird. The only thing that makes you a country is- I think you and I agree, but the drugs are coming in

at points of entry. They're not coming across to the border. I imagine there's multiple ways that they get it. I don't think there's just one, but I think there's probably multiple. But my point is you have the right to block the border. If you have a good, effective way to block the border, block that shit. Let's do it. But the people who are already here are productive

Give them a pathway to citizenship if you are breaking the law see you later You don't get to come here and negatively impact Americans live you breaking the law in America. You go to jail So if they do that time in jail and then once they're up be sending back to wherever they came No, you're not gonna do your time here. You're going to do your time over there. No, they're going to let them out. Then they're going to come right back. That's on them. No, no.

Now we got the wall. No, no, no. No. How'd you meet your wife? Had I beat her? How did you meet her? Oh, Jesus Christ. Had I beat her, I was like, how'd you find out?

No. No. How'd you meet her? How'd I meet her? We actually met on Instagram. Really? In a DM. You slid?

No, she slid. No way. We actually saw each other, I guess, on a dating app. And then she had messaged me. You be on dating apps? I was on a dating app, yeah, yeah. You had your shows. Why are you on a dating app?

I mean, I guess it's easier. You have to find efficiencies in life, you know? But you know what they said? That 75% of the men haven't asked a woman out in person. It's on Instagram. It's on dating apps. Yeah. Don't you miss the old fashioned way?

I do. I think that it's like important to build character. Yeah, but you have to understand, when the golden ticket drops in your lap, you're not gonna say no. Yeah, true. So, yeah, so when we went on a date and it was awesome. You knew it at first sight?

Did you know your first meeting? Second date, I was like, yeah, we're gonna get married probably. Really? Yeah. Damn! You must've been real hard up. Yeah, I was hard up.

Damn! Second date, talk about marriage? Second date, I mean. I mean, at least get a year in. No, no, I mean, it took us a while to get married. Second date, I mean. I mean, Lee's got a year here. No, no, I mean, it took us a while to get married, but I think I knew, I was like, yeah, there's just something different about her, there's something special about her,

and also she made me wait too, she wouldn't sleep with me at all. What? All that discipline. I like that discipline though. I think that's something that women need. It's not about like not having sex with a guy, like it's having sex with a guy when you want to.

We're gonna try. Yeah. But there's something like really awesome about knowing that we're trying. And then they're like, this ain't gonna happen. Cause now I know when you're out there in the world and some other guy tries, you could thwart that advance as well.

It might be, you might have been the only one that. What have you learned about marriage? CJ, CJ, was that one of the questions? CJ, are you writing these segments? CJ, fire CJ immediately. What have you learned about marriage? CJ's a white guy, I just wanna let you know. The whole team is white guys, this is a facade.

This is a lie. What have you learned about marriage? What's the number one thing that you learned about marriage? Oh, man. You know what I learned is that everything that makes you good at comedy makes you bad at relationships. You joke with your wife? Oh, all the time. She has a great sense of humor. But I remember we were talking to a therapist, right?

And it was like, and my wife was like, and there was like, Emma was like, my wife's name is Emma, and she was like, the therapist was like, hey, you don't have to explain yourself. If she says that something bothered her, you can just acknowledge her feelings. And I'm like, but why? But what if, she's like, listen, it's not helpful

to like explain, create justifications, or give examples for things when it comes to an argument. And I'm like, sir, I've dedicated the last 17 years of my life to giving examples, metaphors, and justifying everything that I possibly can. You're telling me I gotta stop that when I'm communicating with my wife? And he's like, absolutely.

And it was a really good, helpful thing to learn. A lot of times when people complain, they don't want you to talk them out of their feelings. They just want their feelings acknowledged. Well here I am trying to help you with your feelings. So you went to therapy? Yeah, yeah, I think it's really helpful. Yeah, you know what my therapist told me?

What'd he say? She asked me a very- Oh, you go to a female therapist? I went to a female. She asked me a simple question What'd she say are you arguing for right or you arguing to be right What'd you answer you already know I'm trying to be right. Right? Yeah. But...

She said, Shannon, look. And she said, Shannon, you're communicating. She said, you're going to have to communicate in a language that she understands. She said, right now, you're speaking Mandarin and she's speaking Spanish. So either she learns Mandarin or you learn Spanish so you guys can communicate or it's not going to work. And she's not going to learn Mandarin. I'm just going to let you know.

They're not going to learn Mandarin. I'm just going to let you know. They're not going to learn Mandarin. They know what they know. And they just got to, the feelings need to be acknowledged. It's really crazy. Yeah. But we feel, at least I don't know, I feel it's like, if I do something and it bothers you, right? Right.

But it's not my intention to hurt you. Right. Right? And I apologize for it. My fear is that you will think that that was my intention. Right. My fear is that you're going to go, you're going to think that I wanted to hurt you by saying that. So here I am trying to explain it away. I'm like, no, what I really meant was that and they don't need that. Right. They just need you to go, oh, man, I'm sorry that I made you feel that way.

And the second you say that, they go, oh, thank you so much for acknowledging that feeling. It's done after that. It's kind of crazy. Here we are trying to like talk them out of their feelings. It's a waste of time. Dad, you mentioned your daughter. He not even listening. Did you see that?

No, because my hair is a fadle. I'm trying to help him. No, no, no, but hair is a fadle. I'm trying to help him. You keep using the word intent. Yes. Intent only matters to you. That's. I'm trying to help them. You keep using the word intent. Yes. Intent only matters to you. That's what I'm saying.

Yes. They don't care about your intent. No, because they're equal. Yes. Stop trying to tell, yo, this guy is diabolical. Don't explain to me what I just explained to you. No. That was insane.

No, but let me. Your girl got no chance. Here's the thing. Your girl got, sweetheart, you got no chance. Manslaughter. He's gaslighting me. Mans, sweetheart, you got no chance. Manslaughter. He's gaslighting me. Manslaughter and murder. Yes, manslaughter and murder.

What's the difference? Manslaughter sounds more sexual. It's intent. Oh, yeah. Intent. You never had a girl give you some manslaughter? No. Intent only matters to the defendant.

Yes, you're right. Yes. The victim is just as dead. Is dead. Is dead. You're 100%. So you said, well, that wasn't my intent. Yeah, it doesn't matter. She's sick or he can leave her. She's over there defendant. Yes, you're right. The victim is just as dead. Is dead, is dead. You're 100%. So you said, well, that wasn't my intent. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

She's sick or equally as hurt. She's over there hurt. Yes. That's what I'm trying to explain to you. Yeah, I was. And now you're explaining it back to me. Now you know I understood. I went to therapy.

I went to therapy before you. I went to therapy before you, so I totally understand. You're darned. Therapy is great. It is. Listen, it's difficult to do it, but I think that there's this like stigma on it, unfortunately, but you should.

You do everything. You go to rehab for your shoulder if it's messed up. Yeah. You take care of your body. You go to visit doctors for every other thing. You have to nurture. Right. You have to, like, I would tell people

before they even get married, go to a therapist. Like when you know you're gonna get married, go to a therapist and have them talk you through some of the changes that are gonna start to happen. Like people have this big ego about not wanting to do it, they're like embarrassed or whatever like that. It's like you should be embarrassed about not caring enough about your relationship

to make it the best that it can be. Especially if you got a kid. Like that's the motivation for everything. You don't want your kid to see you arguing or bickering and that kind of stuff like that. Like get out of your ego, get out of your own way. Yeah, that's the thing. I think the biggest thing is, and they would tell me,

so if you ever get married, you do understand the person you're married today is not gonna be the person you're married tomorrow. So they change, people change, people evolve. And I used to think it was funny when people were like, well, we just grew apart. They did. Because one person evolved in the other and didn't. They think that's the person, the person that they married 10 years ago or 15 years ago

was the same person. They're not. That's why you have to be willing to evolve. Yeah. You got to check in. And a lot of people just ignore that evolution. But sometimes that evolution just makes things better. Makes things closer.

Yeah. Relationships are beautiful. The only cost of this change. Yes, yes. So you have to embrace that change. Yes. Girl, Dad. Yeah.

You said that if the kid turns out bad, they blame the parents. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you do. If they turn out good, they're like, hey, great parents. If the kid turns out bad, they have booed their parents. No, if the girl's bad, it's dad's fault only. Yeah, where was dad at? That's it, right?

It's always our fault if it's the girl. If the boy shoots up a school, they don't go, oh, what's the, was it dad's fault or something like that? But if the girl's a whore, it's always dad's fault. It is the case, right? It's always, you can be the best dad ever. But if the girl's a whore, it's always dad's fault. It is the case, right? It's always, you can be the best dad ever, but if your girl's a whore, now I'm not saying your girl, but you know what I mean.

Yeah, it's 100% your fault. You got a daughter, right? Two. Two daughters, how is that? Imagine being- My daughter's one of my oldest daughters in HR. My youngest daughter just passed the residency, so she's about to be a doctor.

Wow, what kind of doctor? Anesthesiology. Whoa, that's a, people die in that one. Yeah. That's scary. Look, for me is that the way I was raised, and it was different, because my oldest lived with me

her last two years of high school. So she's at that age, dating, hormones, blah, blah, blah. Oh, yeah, blah. And so, whew. What was that like? Would you meet her boyfriends? What do they say when they see you? Man, I was, you know, it was a situation, bro, it was tough, because they wanna do what they wanna do, and they don't understand at the point in time that, you know, 18 is gonna be 22,

22 is gonna be 25, 25 is gonna be 30, hopefully. And so you try to impart wisdom and knowledge and understanding, but they look at it as instant gratification. They want what they want. They want tattoos, they wanna be able to go out, come in whenever they want to, and that was just never gonna ever fly in my place.

I'm your parent. I'm not gonna be your friend. Roadway or the highway. I'm not gonna try to be your friend. I'm always gonna be your friend. We're a way of the highway. I'm not gonna try to be your friend. I'm always gonna be, and I told my kids, I told all my kids this, our dynamic won't ever change. I'm always gonna be the parent, you're always gonna be the child. And do you think your kids know that you love them?

Oh yeah, they do. They do, because they see what I did, and they have a, see, maybe not then, but now as adults now, and they see how- And wait and they have a, see, maybe not then, but now as adults now, and they see how. And wait till they have kids? Yeah. Wait till they, I think once you have kids, you have a completely different understanding

of the decisions your parents made. Right, right. You mentioned earlier IVF. Yeah. And that's, you know, that's very, I'm sure that's very painful for a woman to have to. To have to go through that. Yeah, because that's a lot of shots, bro.

Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it's tough for us too, because we got to deal with them on the shots. And hormones are going crazy. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, yeah, it's tough for them. It's a tough process for sure.

But I think what's more tough is not being able to get pregnant. So I think that's what you're looking at. It's actually more painful not being able to get pregnant. So you look at that. You think she feels less than a woman because she's not able to conceive? Well, it was my fault, not hers.

It's yours? Yeah. Ah, man, you firing blagues on. Yeah, they just don't swim. They're black, no. Nah, there you go, there you go, I knew it, I knew it. They're black. No. There you go. There you go. I knew it.

I knew it. I knew that was coming. Stereotypes. All white crew laughing at that joke. I just want to let you know. Swim people of color here laughing. Anyway. No, but when you found that out that it was...

Bro, I thought it was her too. We're trying. You know what I mean? It's not working. I'm like, oh damn, I felt bad for her. I actually prayed the night before we got the results. I prayed that it was my fault. And then we got the results and God was like, back. I got you. I will hold you to that.

I will hold you to that. I hear all your prayers. You want this blame, I got you. So yeah, so then I did that and then just having to deal with that is like, you also look back at your whole life and you're like, I wasted so many condoms, so much Plan B, like so much stress of getting a girl pregnant. And you couldn't get nobody pregnant anyway. Anyway, Plan B sitting in her stomach looking around like Will Smith in the last episode

of Fresh Prince. Just kind of staring at the living room like, what the **** am I doing here? So how, I mean, so how, I mean, you have one, right? You have a daughter. Yes, we have a daughter, yeah, yeah. So basically my sperm just didn't swim that well, right? So it's possible maybe if we kept at it for months and months. What'd you do, what'd you call them?

IUI? Yeah. We did that, it didn't work. So we tried IUI, which is where they basically like take your sperm, they shoot it in there. Yeah. And then we tried IVF afterwards and we were able to get pregnant through IVF. Oh, you tried that again now?

So we have the embryos frozen, so you have all these things. So like if we want to have another one, you know, we're in conversations that we'd love to expand the family. Won't you just start it out and let a surrogate? No, because I think that the women like going through that part of the process. You know, I think my wife liked being pregnant. But you're just practicing. Who? What? Me? Now? Oh, that's it. Yeah, yeah, I'm shooting it up now. It's crazy. Oh, you shooting a club? I like going through that part of the process. I think my wife liked being pregnant. But you're just practicing. Who, what, me now?

Oh, that's it, yeah, yeah, I'm shooting it up now. It's crazy. Oh, you shooting the club up? Oh, I'm shooting the club up, man. It's like, this club is destroyed. But that's the thing, you never know. Maybe it starts to happen. That'd be, and that'd be cool too, but either way.

Do you wish you had got started earlier? Because you're older, you're 40, you're 40. I mean, you wish you had got started maybe mid-20s, mid-late 20s to 30s? First thought I had when I saw my daughter is I wish that I did this 20 years ago You're 40, you're 40. I mean, you wish you had got started maybe mid-late 20s, to 30s? The first thought I had when I saw my daughter is I wish that I did this 20 years ago so I could have more time with you.

Right, so she could actually see, I mean, you're probably still gonna be doing this when she's older to understand what her dad's doing. But that's one of the things that I really appreciate, that my kids got an opportunity to see their dad do his first career. But also, I just wanna be around them for longer. Like within 10 seconds I was like,

I just want to spend as much time with you as I possibly can. So I think there's part of me that did that, but then I wouldn't be with my wife, and my wife is the person I'm supposed to be with. So I'm glad it worked out this way. I think I'm mature enough and ready to do it. But yeah, man, it was tricky.

But you also got to take ego out of it. Like there was part of me that was like, I just, I wanna get her pregnant naturally. And then every month when she'd look at the pregnancy test and it wasn't there, she'd cry, and I'm like, how much, I was talking to the IVF doctor and he was like, you gotta look at this. He's like, if you have the money and it's not a concern,

you gotta look at how much stress on your relationship this is gonna cause. You might get pregnant, like you could keep trying for a year, you could keep trying for two years, you never know, it could happen, it takes one. So, but what is the stress on your wife and your relationship? And after that I was like, all right, let's go.

Let's do this IVF. And it was amazing. Did you change, did you have to change the eating habits? Did you eat differently, did you exercise? Before I did, like so before we did IVF, I was talking to doctors like, is there anything I could do to like make my sperm better? Right?

Because they say it was when I was swimming that month. And they're like, yes, you could, you gotta ice your balls every day. So I was icing my balls every day. They're like, you gotta not wear tight underwear. So I was wearing loose underwear. You gotta stop drinking. You gotta stop smoking.

So I was clean. I was icing my balls every single day. I was taking these pills. I was taking like four pills a day. I was doing everything I possibly could do. I went and got tested again. My sperm got worse. Damn.

Yeah. Yeah. Allen Iverson. It was like, practice. We talking about practice. Yeah. So now you just like, fuck. So I was like, let's do this shit.

You're like, after. I'm just going back to. I'm doing everything I can, bro. You in there, you jerking off into these cups. You're like, I'm just going back to. I'm just going back to. I'm just going back to. I'm just going back to. I'm just going back to. I'm just going back to. now you just like, fuck. So I was like, let's do this shit. I'm just going back to.

I'm doing everything I can, bro. You in there, you jerking off into these cups, man. And it's just so, it's just humbling, bro. Right. But the crazy thing about it was like, after talking about it, when you're doing it, you think you're the only person that's ever struggled to get pregnant. Right.

It's so isolating. No, it's a lot of people dealing with that. But I didn't know that. So I started talking about it on stage, and people would start coming up to me, and they were like, oh, yo's a lot of people dealing with that. But I didn't know that. So I started talking about it on stage and people would start coming up to me and they're like, oh, that was really cool to see that. I never say anybody talk about that. I went through that.

And then one of the most beautiful things about it was on the tour, there'd be all these people that came out to the tour. I never told them that this is what the show was about. I've never been personal. I never told stories, really. And then after, I'd get all these DMs, even to this day, of people who were like, yo,

I saw the show, we tried IVF, we ended up getting pregnant, or they were going through that process during that time, and then they'll message me months later and they have a baby. Wow. Yeah, it was this thing I didn't expect out of the tour of the show, but it was so rewarding. You realize that there are levels of importance to things and nothing is more important than your family and that baby that you make. And getting to see people witness that

and experience that even in the show. You know, like, life doesn't always work out. Sometimes it does. The way you want it. Exactly. And that's right, sometimes you don't get what you want, but you get what you need. And I think that's what happened to us. We might have wanted it to happen one way, but the thing we got was the most perfect thing.

I couldn't imagine doing it another way. So it was cool. You mentioned your dad is suffering earlier from short-term memory. How's that been on your mom? Oh, hard, because she got to take care of him. And it's a full-time job to do that. And you're also losing this person that you love. But I tell you, when you start to lose your memory, you're left with who you truly are. And I think the last memory my dad will have is how amazing my mom is.

It's amazing to hear him talk about how like infatuated with her he still is. And yeah, it's really, I was concerned. My dad is old, I'm like, is he gonna like say some racist shit? Like you know what I mean? You don't know. But his heart is pure.

He's like this beautiful soul. And like my mom had to take his debit card because he was just giving people money for no reason forgetting So he was giving a guy at the fruit stand like money and then forgetting he gave him and then going back to the Bank taking out more money. He's just he's a beautiful soul. Mm-hmm. So So yeah, he's handling. All right. Yeah, I had your nicks. What's your nicks gonna do this year? They're gonna get old get past, get past the Cavs? I don't know, man. I mean, I'm a delusional New York fan,

so I'm saying, yeah, next they're gonna win the championship every single year. Well, we know your Giants and Jess ain't winning nothing. Yeah, I think your Jess got it next year in the Giants, too. Got what? I think they're gonna win the Super Bowl together. Oh. If they combine the teams, they might.

Yeah, if they combine. Yeah, what is happening with New York Sports, man? When I was growing up, the Yankees were winning everything. Giants got a couple like, I mean, Knicks were in the playoffs, Elise Cookin. Yeah. What's going on? What do you think it is? Well, I mean, in football, it's all about the quarterback. Yeah. You see that. Look at the teams that made the playoffs this year. So you think Aaron don't have it anymore? He has it, but he can't dial it up

like he once could every single, you remember when he was in Green Bay, man? He was sensational. There were moments where I would watch him on Green Bay and I was like, I think this is the best person that's ever played quarterback. I know that's a crazy take, because Tom Brady exists, but there were moments where I was like,

that is the best guy I've ever seen play quarterback. As you get older, you just can't do it with the frequency and the regularity that you did when you were younger. And the problem is that if you're a great player, as you get older, they don't compare you to other great players, they compare you to your younger self.

So that's what we're comparing him to, those four MVPs that he won in Green Bay. Yes. Not to today's quarterbacks. Yeah,. Yes. Not to today's quarterbacks. Yeah. And he is comparable to today's quarterbacks. Yeah. But he's not what we remember.

This is the burden of greatness. Let me ask you this. How do you write a set? I mean, do you write sets or do you? Because Marlon Wayans says he don't write anything down. He just goes. Kat says he write. Quake, a lot of guys say they write.

Do you write or do you just go on stage and just go? I go on stage with ideas or feelings. I don't really have a punch line for you yet, but there are things I want to talk about. And then I eventually, I listen back to it and then I can write down little ideas from it and then that's where the set will kind of build and then you refine it. It gets fat and then you whittle away at it. It's like building a sword. You ever see somebody make a sword where you just kind of have that h gets fat, and then you whittle away at it. It's like building a sword. You ever see somebody make a sword

where you just kind of have that hunk of steel, and then you hammer and hammer, and it gets sharper and smaller and sharper and smaller, and eventually it's there. That's the idea. How long did it take you to write that? Depends. Some jokes could take,

there are jokes that I didn't have done until the night two of my special taping. Wow. And then there's jokes that come together in like a month and you're like, holy. So it just depends, yeah. Thanks for stopping by. Is there anything you want to promote?

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It was really an honor. I'm stoked to be here with you and I appreciate your time, my brother. Check out Andrew Shoals, his Netflix special, Life. March 4th, it's up there on Netflix, peace. Appreciate you, bro. Thank you, man. I just want to point out

that we have already finished the podcast and then CJ, the producer, walked back and said, oh, there's just a few more questions that we got to say. Okay, so I just want everybody to know. It's only like four. Yeah, it's fine, but I just want to make sure. CJ, you're a great producer.

You're a piece of s***, but you're a great producer. Okay, yeah, what was the question? Kendrick said something. Yes, he said, we don't let no white comedians talk Yes, he said we don't let no white comedians talk about. He said don't let no white comedians talk about no black woman, that's the law. Yeah, yeah. You're right, what's my opinion on it?

Yeah. Oh, have you not heard it? No, what'd you do? Oh, I had an opinion on the internet about it. That was pretty. So you like going back and forth, especially like you said if they're names. Only if you're big enough, like I'm going to go back and forth against like a nobody

But if there's if you're the biggest rapper in the world and you take a shot at me That wasn't even the line that really bothered me. It was the next one that bothered me. What do you say? he's like to the uh To the n words that coon and the n words being groomed slide on both of them And a lot of people interpreted that as he was talking to Charlamagne and Alex Media, who I do the podcast. Now to me, the word slide has implications of violence. So if you are calling violence on my friends,

you're gonna probably hear something back from me. That's just, I care deeply about these people. And you're the biggest rapper in the world, and you never know what your fans might do. So you do have two black friends, huh? I don't call them friends, because they're black. But if they were white, I would call them friends, yeah. So you do have two black people that you...

But hey, but even 50, like your joke, 50 like, hold on bro, come on now you. Yeah, 50's a man, dude. 50's the fucking dude. 50's the king of this shit. I would love to see how he would've handled it. Any type of beep or anything like that. But people call your friends on the internet,

they say they're yes men. They say they disagree with whatever you say, they go along with it, kiki, kiki. And they don't hold you accountable for some of the stuff that you say. Who, who? I mean, they gotta upset, what'd you say, Alex Media? Who, key, key. And they don't hold you accountable for some of the stuff that you say. Who, who? I mean, they got to, I'm saying, what'd you say, Alex Media?

Who, yeah, Alex Media? Yeah, I'm saying that's what the internet say. That's what your friends are. Your friends are yes men. Which friends, which friends? I guess your black friends. You know, you only got two, Charlamagne and Alex. CJ, you gotta tell him what you mean by the questions.

No, I wanna be your friend. You got two friends. And they don't. He's talking about a different podcast. No, no, I'm saying you got two friends. You could just be like, I don't know what this question is. You could just say that. They say it.

You're black friends. How many black friends you got? He's putting his foot down. It's not about my black friends. First of all, I don't have black friends. Okay, you got friends. I have friends. Okay, that happen to be black. Some of them happen to be black. I don't categorize them. I have friends. Some of them happen to be black.

I don't categorize them. Unless they're Jews, and then I categorize. But the Jews are just my Jewish friends. Everyone else is just friends. Yeah. But okay, let me ask you this. So who you taking to be? Drake or Kendrick?

Oh, I mean, Kendrick won. It's not even a question, right? He won? Of course he won won Of course he won Of course he won. I thought you were gonna go the other way because y'all had a little friction. No, I'm still objective Right. Like I prefer Drake's music. Of course. Really? Yeah, so does the rest of the world There's I mean there's data that backs that like that's what he's the most listened to it's not a question But in terms of who won it, I think you can't be emotional about these kind of things.

Like yeah, he won it. And Drake is really good. He is. He's really good. The wordplay is, he was on point. Yeah, and Drake is really good. It's actually really cool to see that happen. It's very rare that you get to see two people

at the best of their ability go at it. So yeah. Look man, mixed race cultures. Because you get this situation that's like, well you got one parent is white, one parent is black, or whatever the ethnicity are. And they say, well, you're not this enough to be in this culture.

You're not that enough to be in that culture. So you're somewhere like in between. Yeah. Yeah, how do you feel about that? You must feel lonely. I'm 100%. You see, both of my parents were not quite this chair complexion, but they were pretty dark.

Oh, you're black? Yeah. Holy shit. Holy shit, dude. I had no fucking clue. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm mixed with water and shade by La Portier. No, like, yeah, I think that must be tough.

When I was, I used to live in Spain, my roommate was half Cameroonian and half Spanish, like from Spain. And when he was in Cameroon, he was considered white and he's from Spain. And when he's in Spain, he's considered black. And what he started doing is saying that he was from Cameroon. Right. And he did that piece. He's like, I'm not going to let you decide my identity. I'm going to tell you what my identity is

and what I feel like. And I can imagine that being tough, man. That's probably got to be hard. It is. It is. Because you're kind of like in purgatory. You're not good enough to go here. You're not good enough to go there.

So you're somewhere in the middle. And then when you do something good, both sides claim you. Yes. So now all of a go here, you're not good enough to go there, so you're somewhere in the middle. And then when you do something good, both sides claim you. So now all of a sudden when you're good, oh, you're the man, like Barack Obama's president, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, it's the first black president, that was it. Now Barack Obama does some **** ****, they're like, oh, look at that half white guy. Yeah. Or Tiger.

Tiger was the best at that, because Tiger was black, and then all of a sudden he was combination, I don't even know if that was Complanation he's combination. Yeah, he's combination. Yes. Yeah, guess his mom rest her soul She just passed recently and so that's what people like. Hold on, bro We've been rocking with you when they was calling you all the names You ain't mention nothing about your age of descent and now he's saying I'm combination. Yeah. Yeah, what do you think he is? Just? What do you what would you say? All I know is that sort of thing. They said the n-word They say nobody no asian did he say the n-word? No, I'm saying that's what people called him when they got upset

And when he did what he did, oh they were saying yeah, they said nobody they mentioned the asian part. Can tiger say the n-word? It all depends on who he's around no i'm saying like if heard him, like if he nailed a putt and he was just like. Nah, I don't feel comfortable with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't feel comfortable with that.

Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. So Tiger can't say the N word. He called the nation. He's calling, he's doing combination. Oh, so there's no circumstance where he can say it? Nah, nah. I mean, I'm sure he said it. But I don't need to be in the vicinity where he said it.

So what if you said it to him in an endearing way? You were like, yo, what's up? Nah, nah, nah. And he hit it back. Nah, nah, nah. You got to be. I got to know you for me to address you like that. Why were you calling that to me when we were off camera?

Why are you doing that around your all white staff? Why did you make a big deal about that? That ain't no big deal. Y'all know how I already get that. It was crazy that you did it and I asked you to stop. I was like, can you please refrain from referring to me that word please? Well let me ask you this.

Why you be going to Meek Mill on social media then? I love Meek. No you don't. You always talking about you love somebody I love Meek. And be butchering. No you don't, you always talking about you love somebody I love Meek. And be butchering them on it. When did I butcher him? Ray, you know what you said.

I love Meek, Meek, I love you. I'm the only one on social media saying he's not gay. But you did say you have a hard time proving that you're straight though. I said he did a bad job of it. Job, yes. Which he laughed at. He laughed at the joke.

He's like this is the first time I laughed at somebody saying I'm funny Mmm you just like so not as long as it's a name you gonna go back and forth with him, huh? Yeah, if it's if it's somebody that's if somebody's using me for my name I'm not gonna go back and forth right but if it's big enough that like right, you know, sure I'll do it Right also if I like if there's a but but meek you know, sure, I'll do it. Also if I like, if there's a... But Meek did nothing to me, by the way. Like honestly, he's really innocent and all this.

And I do support him. I do think that he gets an unfair shake. I think he gets like trolled a lot. And I think he's probably like a good guy. So I always say leave Meek alone. Even though I do make some jokes. But everybody gets these jokes. Bye man.

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