Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Angela Simmons Part 1

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

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by women that understood the design part, And it just stood out. I mean, going to these foot locker stores and 3,000 plus people lining up just to come see us and us to sign autographs and put them to buy sneakers was like, whoa, this is different. We were like, we're competing with Jordan. You know, we love Jordan, you know what I mean? All my life been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price.

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That's why Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shayshay. I am your host Shannon Sharp, I'm also the proprietor of Club Shaysayshay. Stopping by

for conversation and a drink today is reality TV royalty. She was on the cult classic MTV's run house. She's the daughter

of a founding member of the iconic rap group, Run DMC with her father being Reverend Run. She's become a mogul in her own right

though. A successful CEO, a beauty entrepreneur, fashion designer, top performing foot web seller, food industry leader, fitness enthusiasts, producer, creator, artist, philanthropist, media personality, social media influencer, an entertainer, an actress and a mom, and now about to add music.

Ooh, ooh, ooh, she's good. She's got an album coming out. Here she has the very talented, Miss Angela Simmons. Hello. Ah, thank you so much. Unbelievable. All these titles and now music. Yes.

We got the very talented and lovely Marissa bringing us a drink because we got to toast everything. We're here at 11. This is an unbelievable establishment here. So thank you, 11, for hosting us. Thank you. Thank you, Marissa. You're welcome. To everything that you've accomplished and will accomplish.

Thank you. So thank you for stopping by. The world got introduced to you on Reverend Run's house. What was that like and how did that change you? Because you were, I mean, you were very young at the time. Yeah. So how were you able to handle? to handle all that thing?

I mean, it didn't happen immediately. Like, we started filming. I was graduating from high school. And so we filmed it. It was like around my graduation time. And then it hit after. So I... So you were already done with school then.

Yeah, it was great. Because like I was leaving, done with the whole school thing, had my good time. And then it was like I was graduating and going to college at that point. So the fame and all of it all really didn't come until it started coming out, you know, one episode at a time. And I started noticing people are noticing. me and I'm like, how do I even know me? But you know, I mean, you don't really know what it's going to do with MTV.

And next thing you know, people started noticing who we were when we walked around. People who knew us before, you know, you just knew us because we were runs kids, but not like to this degree. Right. So now you're having, you were known as Run's daughter and now you're starting to have celebrity on your own right. But you didn't get to pick up any friends because this happened after you had left high school.

Do you think it would have been different had you had to start in high school? Do you get? Because you strike, you strike me. as a person like, if you're in my circle, you're in my circle. If you're not in my circle, you're not about to get in my circle now that my circle is already drawn. I'm kind of like that. I mean, I just like good people, good individuals. And most of the friends and people I have around me, I've had them my whole life or like for a very, very long time. But I'm not sure what it would have changed. I guess people would have known me more than what they did at the time.

But I'm happy it happened when it did because I got to really live out. like my childhood and like not be on TV. I mean, I was mature enough to handle it at that point, you know. Were you popular in school? I think so. I feel like if people, my high, people in different high school, yeah, people knew me. And then I went to a really small school elementary wise. So there's 200 kids from K through 8. Damn. Right. Very small school. I was like, yeah, very sheltered at first. Right. And then by high school, my last two years, I went to a public high school, because I wanted to go to fashion high school. So I went to fashion industries in Manhattan,

and I wanted to study fashion design. And so my parents let me just change schools in the middle. So how was that, did you know your father was fame? Because, like, kids are famous. They just know him as dad and mom. So they don't know anything about the fame, but probably as you got older. So I'm thinking like early elementary school,

you probably didn't have an understanding of who your dad was and how influential he was. No, it took a while. It took the parents so on pictures. It took the going out and about with my dad to like fun zone. And they're like, you could skip the line if your dad signs this or if your dad comes over here and you're like, okay. So then you start using it to your advantage. You know what I mean?

Like I'm in all these places. I'm like, Daddy, come here real quick so we can get to the front or I'm too big to get in the balls at this point at the, you know, the fun places. And because he was who he was, they let it happen. But it took a minute to really understand it. So when you're out and all of a sudden people are coming up to your dad and wanting to take pictures and wanting to get autograph signed and you look at him like, why do these people, you're just dad, I mean, you're like, you're not like anybody because your dad's career like back in the 80s, I saw your dad perform at the Civic Center with a lot of group run DMC and Houdini and the gap band and all the fat boys, all those people back

then. But I don't know at the height, I don't know if you like, do you remember anything about your dad when he was at the absolute apex? I was born in 87. So we did like go to shows with him and take the van from, I mean, these are like stories that are. I probably repeat because I actually remember them, like him saying he's going to, and I don't know, I had to be Philly or somewhere close to he took a van there. And we would go there and he would have us in the room and it would be on the side of the stage, which was an often thing. Like, we'd be at a lot of the shows just sitting on the side as like little kids.

But it was one show in particular that put things in perspective. I just watched him and I was like, oh, wow, throwing the mic stand. All these like people. I'm like, oh, he's like famous. Like, people know him. Yes. But it took that show for me to like see it. And then it took like being, I mean, I must have been in first or second grade where I realized that like people, people's parents were like, can we get like your autograph from your dad?

And I'm like, autograph. But like that to me was like the moment where I was like, okay, he's famous. But to see your dad on stage, I'm assuming because as I'm watching, I used to watch Run's house, I'm watching him. And I see his demeanor at home. And he's a totally different person when he was on stage. How different. You watch it because you had an opportunity to see up close and personal. How different is he?

And like, Dad, who are you up there? I feel like every artist has, like, their other side when they're on the stage. And so I feel like my dad is that person on the stage. And I've watched a growing up. Like, he get on there, he's there. But then when he's dad, he's dad. Right. You know what I mean?

Like, what you've seen on Run's house is, like, my dad. You know what I mean? Like, fun, loud, honest, like, always preaching to me. Always got answers for me. But then, like, when it comes to being an artist on a stage that I see. I saw a grown up, he was that guy. Right. You know what I mean?

Like, I used to watch like, whoa, this is nuts, you know, but he, he definitely holds both, I think everyone has that when it comes to being an artist and then being at home. Your parents got divorced at a young age. Yeah. And with, I'm assuming it's hard on you because you're old enough to remember. You know what's going on. So you know like, okay, I got mom and dad and we're here, right here, right here. And now all of a sudden, I'm going to still have mom and dad, but they're not going to be living together. And there's a great chance.

she's going to have someone else in her life and he's going to have someone else in his life. Which happened, yeah. How, what did that do to you? I think for any children, for me, the split, it was hard at first, right? Because you're like, you're seeing your parents split and you don't know what that looks like.

Now it's two households, so it's back and forth, dad on weekend, mom on the week or vice versa. But it was definitely a transition and hard. I feel like you can't prepare a child for that moment. It's more like, As you go, you figure it out. And I was okay, but I think, you know, anyone with a divorce, like, split home, you're affected, right?

Like, you have literally two different homes. I mean, the perks were the two Christmases and the two Thanksgiving and being able to go back and forth. And you're like, I have more family now. You know what I mean? But my dad is with my stepmom who I call Ma because she's like a mom to me. And then my mom is successfully married too. And they've both been married forever. So we've had two great relationships to always look up to.

And like they have the best advice when it comes to relationships. Right. Did you ever think like, what if, what if he finds someone else and I don't really like her? How do I do that? Because I love my dad and I want my dad to be happy, even though it's not with my biological mom. But if he finds someone and what if she thinks she tries to replace my mom or she's like, I don't really like her or something like. Did that crush your dad? The transition that they did with us was pretty smooth that we didn't have that problem.

Like my dad, I met my stepmom really like quick after we, everything was. like done like I met my stepmom who I called mom but like I met her quickly and I didn't have that problem she was so embracing and loving and treat us like her own kids so we didn't I didn't feel like that my mom is like our like she's a real amazing mom and she's there and then my stepmom came along and she was just adding to the family so it was like a great thing did they sit you down did they said look mom and dad we love each other we love we're gonna love we're gonna always love you Did they sit you down and explain that mom and dad are going to no longer be together? How did that go about?

I feel like I was, let me see. I had to be pretty young. I don't know the age, but I was pretty young. So I don't remember that. I don't think that was the conversation. I just think it just, it was a split. You know, like I woke up one day and mom was going here and dad was here and that was just the new life that it was going to be. It's a scorching sports summer and you can make all your picks on prize picks.

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Where? I mean, you have a nice life. I'm assuming that, I mean, run DMC was at the top. I mean, like I said, they were fashion icons. I remember the leather Adidas. They had the shell to with the big fat shoe strings. And they were all on the picture. They had the can go hat with the black Adidas suits on.

So, and Run DMC was a very, very popular. They were selling millions of albums back, the records back then. And so I'm pretty sure that you had a nice little cush life. And he wanted to make sure that your life and every parent want to make sure their kids' lives are better than what they had. Absolutely. And so they put you in a situation. So how hard was it for you to assimilate knowing that, you? Your dad is Rev Run and you have great things as opposed to some of your friends that maybe weren't as fortunate.

I always say that I feel like I grew up very like balanced, right? Because my mom has been a school teacher her whole life. And I watched her work multiple jobs, like eyeglasses, plays. Like she's always been a hustler. So I watched that. And then I, you know, and then we had my dad's house. So like when we split, it was like Queens and Jersey or queens in different parts of Queens or whatever. But I lived like middle class and then I had also like everything else.

So it was always like a balance. But I feel like that kept me like grounded. You know what I mean? Like that's what helped make me who I am today is like being able to see both sides. So when it came to other kids, like I never had like a judgmental heart or thought anything less or seen anyone differently. I just always looked at it as like, okay, like you have what you have. I have what I have and I just never seen it as different. Do you have a lot of friends?

When you went to your dad, did you have a lot of friends? Since we were still in New York, my friends were still, you know, like, yeah, we weren't in a different like state step, but you were. But you went to an all-white school, correct? So I went to a Jewish school, elementary school growing up. And then I went to a Catholic school for two years, high school. And then I went to fashion industries in the city for two more years. So how did, because you hear a lot of people like when they go to these

schools like this and you hear a lot of people say, well, it was traumatic because I didn't have a lot of people that looked like me or a lot of people that thought like me. I remember my daughter when she went, her mom took her out because she said, you know, you're going to this school, this is not going to be the real world. You're not going to be, these people are not what's going to only be out in the world. You're going to be around a lot of different type of people. And so I need to get you assimilated to what it's going to be like in the real world. So how was it easy or was it the tough transition for you to simulate going to you went to say you went to a Jewish, Jewish school early on and then you went to a Catholic school and you went to fashion. I'm assuming

fashion school was a lot different. It was a mix. It was wild. Yeah. It was my first public school experience. People curse and I said maybe that helped me. I was like, I think I was too sheltered before this. I was like, what's going on in here? I mean, because I did grow up like in a car service going to school every day. I didn't take public transportation. I used to want to, I used to sneak. I mean, I guess I'm old enough that I'm not going to trouble, but I used to sneak and take the bus and stuff and trains because my parents like my dad had it where we had a car service take us to him from school yeah every day and you wanted you wanted to experience it what it was a really like to take the train i was on jamaica avenue i'm like can i go over there i want to see the other

stuff right so did your dad ever found out like did you i mean he's probably going if he watches this he's going to find out like you was doing this i got a car service i'm paying all this money no the car service was for school right so on the weekend if you're trying to sneak it's to use the car service. That's when you really wanted to do it because you had your friends. Right. But like, no, I was like still taking the, I was like happy to get on the bus. Like this is so cool to train. This is cool because to a certain degree, you know, we were really like still like protected and sheltered. That's to some degree, I would say. You have a very unique perspective because like you said, your mom kind of queens and so you know what it's like.

Yeah. You know what it's like to be middle class and you know what it's like to be upper upper. What advice would you give someone coming up in a very similar situation to yours? How do you acclimate? How do you blend in? How do you become a chameleon? And like your friends that that you had on your mom's side that you don't make them feel, you don't make them feel less than.

Because it's, I mean, because they know who your father is. They know what you have. But you're like, I'm still Angela. For me, I feel like I still had the same friends from every school. So like we just back and forth like our friends could come there or there. But when it came to like, I never, I just, I just. I don't, I've never could make anyone feel less than, you know what I mean? So I don't know when it comes to friends if I ever was in that position to feel like

you don't have this or you don't have that, so it's less than, you know what I mean? Right. What was it like seeing your dad go to like rapper, iconic, and all of a sudden he's a minister, a pastor? I mean, we were, we went with it and it obviously helped shape me like watching my dad become a pastor, a reverend. I was very much so in church, every time's a week with them. It wasn't like a crazy transition. Like I feel like my childhood, and at that point, it's like a teenager.

So I was just going on with it. It's like if your parents are doing something, you're just going on with whatever they're doing. It's like he's still my father. He's just, basically, he's no longer the rapper. Now he's real. Now he, now we just, I'm like, but I think that would be very, very hard to give up this,

this person. I like it's a persona, but he was great. at what he was doing, but he just like, no, I don't want to do. I'm doing this. I got a call. I got another calling. I don't think that it wasn't that he's the rapper. I think it's just like another phase in your life. Okay. You know what I mean? So it's like transition or adding a new chapter to your life. And so we just watched whatever that was. And now I know from a perspective of a woman who's growing, you're always stepping into new chapters of yourself and who you become and you're evolving. So we were just watching that in real time. Did he have a conversation with any of,

Did he have a conversation? Did he like, you know what, guys, I think about I'm going to chew, I'm going to do this. It's because a lot of times like when you make, I don't want to say life-aultering decision, but when you make career decisions, you normally, I'm sure he had a conversation with his wife. But did he talk to the kids? He's like, you know what? I think dad is going to go walk a different path now. No, it would have probably been more like, we're going to go to church now in these days.

You know what I mean? Like, you're going to come these days. And we were like, okay, what else could you say? We live in the same house. we're doing whatever, you know, the head of the house is. Right. But it's not the first time. I mean, we've seen, I mean, sometimes singers, you hear a lot of R&B singers,

they grow up in the church. You hear Whitney Houston and Kurt Franklin, something that. And some of these, like, some of these great singers, they kind of grew up in the church. I don't know if we've ever had a situation where it's been kind of reversed. You start out as, like. And then you go. And then you go back the other ways. Normally you start in the church and go this way.

You don't normally start this way and go that way. So the non-normal is normal to me. That's what it is. Okay. So when I look at it, I'm like, no, it's normal. school. Like, no, I just, I think I'm just used to at this point. When you saw the Drusky skit, have you seen the Drusky skit? As someone that's, that's, that, her father is a minister. And some people like, some people like, some people like, it's comedy. And then some people like, bro, he's making a mockery of the church. He's making a mockery of the word. And so what, what were your thoughts on it?

I think he's a comedian. And I look at things as like, that's just like his art and his creative place. I don't, I don't feel like, does he love God less? Or Christ. left. I don't know his, like, religion. But I just seen it as comedy, honestly. Because I think the thing is like comedians, what do they do? They take things that happen in their life or they take things that they see and they make them funny. Yeah. He had to get this from somewhere. I mean, there were pieces of it that you're like, okay, I've seen things like this. You know what I mean? So you're like, oh, this is crazy. I mean, I looked at it. I laughed. I was like, this is crazy. Yeah. But like, it was funny to me. There were parts that I thought were funny. What's up y'all? It's your favorite unk hero. Host of club Shay Shayshay Shannon Sharp. Everybody wants to celebrate the wins, but don't see what it takes to get there and no one knows better than small business owners. Payroll stress, equipment breaking down, dealing with banks. That's pressure. That's real. That's why you need a partner that has your back. And that's why I rock with Cardiff. Cardiff been helping small business get funding for over 20 years. Contractors, plumbers, restaurant, electricians, real hardworking people out here grinding. Cardiff. Cardiff.

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do you think like because it's kind of always been like that because you see a lot of pastors now they preach prosperity God told me to tell y'all to give me $10,000 in the next 90 seconds and oh blesses it's going to be abundant and you see all that it's like I don't remember I grew up in the church and I don't remember a pastor's ever preaching prosperity

it didn't say well you know and now you got to bring your W to and let me see if You're giving 10%. You're tithing 10%. I don't know about the W2, but I grew up in a prosperity church where they taught prosperity and they taught you about being wealthy and they taught you how to obtain that. And all that.

So I grew up around it, but not in a way where people see it as like, you know, if you don't do this, you're not going to be blessed. Right. And, you know, I think a lot of times people are like,

if I give into a church that's not as corrupt, it's like, no, God knows your heart. So that's how I look at things when it comes to giving. But I did grow up in a church where the pastor had, Rosreuse, but so did the, you know, everyone else. Right. There also was obtaining their own Mercedes and the things that they want. So it was like sitting under a house that has wealth and you obtaining wealth as well.

Oh, okay. Because I think the thing is sometimes that people see is like, okay, the pastor, he has private jazz and he has these mansion, he has these cars. And then other people that they're kind of like struggling and with lights and things of that nature. I think that's where the- disconnect. See, I grew up in opposite. The pastor, the bishop's wealthy and so are the people, The congregation is wealthy. Because you're learning how to obtain it and you're hearing the word of God. You're hearing all of these different things and that's just, I don't know, it was normal to me. When you hear the word nepo baby, what thoughts come to your mind?

People that like feel like for me, what I take from it is people thinking it's just kind of handed to you based upon where you come from. I don't, I personally, like I understand what a nepo baby is, but nothing is like. like for me personally been handed to me. So when people say that, I'm like, eh, you know, other than the name, the title of like my family and where I come from, like, I don't think people personally see my, like, my hustle and my drive and, like, what I'm doing on a regular basis. But they're not supposed to because the camera's not falling for you 24-7.

But I think a lot of the times people think NEPO baby is a bad thing. I mean, it's great that you come from something that's strong and great. But I think sometimes the NEPO babies are just handed something, like, and say, go do whatever you're going to do with it. Like, I've been working since I was literally 17. I think, and plus, isn't that the job of parents trying to put their kids in a better and advantageous situation? And although the name might get you in there, unless your father, your mother, the family is in that business, it probably not going to keep you there. It might get you in the door.

Yeah. But after a while, Angela Simmons' talents is going to have to keep her there for 10, 15, 20, 30 years. I mean, I dealt with that. And my brother and it's like, well, you got drafted because of your brother. Like, my brother don't play for the Broncos. It's not like he can catch passes or run routes for me. Like you're doing your part. I'm doing my thing.

Yeah, maybe the last name helped. Like, oh, he's got a brother that playing the NFL. He's really good. Maybe he can be good. That's the good part. Like, we should be able to use our last name to pass it down. I would hope my son can then use the legacy of where we come from to walk them into a door. But like you said, what's going to keep you there?

Exactly. It might put you in the room to shake hands, talk to individuals, but if you're not actually doing the work. You know what I think, Angela? I think it's us. I think we look at it. We judge our own. Really. Really, really harshly in situations like that.

Like, oh, he got to, okay, every community, if they can help their kids or someone in their family advance, they're willing to do it. Only, it seems like it's us. A lot of times we frowned upon a look down when I happen. The hell, you say? Why would you not want to help? To me, like, I want to lay it out for you.

I want to give you the right blueprint. And then from there, you're maintaining it. You didn't know how to do it. Yes, yes, yes. I agree. There are friends and people I've come across. They're like, yeah, my parents did X, Y, and Z for me. but they still got to get in there and like work their bust off to keep it.

Yes. Yeah. Get me in the door. Now, how do I stay in the door? That's going to be what you do to stay there. Now, your parents or your name or whatever might have gotten you there, gotten you to that point. Yeah. But they can't help you stay there because eventually your work ethic, your talent, your drive is going to what keeps you in.

100%. And we see this a lot with TI and you hear TI and LeBron. And I think the thing is is that the more famous you are, but it's a lot. You know what? It's kind of hard. And let me know what you think. Like your dad grew up in a very different situation than what you grew up in. Oh, it was a different time.

That his drive and you're looking at you're like, man, look at this big old house. I got my own room to myself. You know, I got a car service taking me to and from school. Your dad didn't have it like that. A whole different thing, yeah. But I love when I see kids that families that really, really have it, and they still got drive to go get it themselves.

Yeah. That's impressive to me. Because it's so easy to just sit back and like, hey, I'm straight. I'm Gucci over here. But I don't even think like my layout and the way I was brought up wasn't you Gucci. It's like you can do what you want to do as far as career go, but you're not just going to sit here and just collect. Like go work.

Right. They encourage like whatever talent we had. You know what I mean? I think there are some kids where some parents say, hey, you're good. Sit back, relax. I'm not going to do that to my kid, but I definitely wasn't, you know, that's not how I was raised either. It was like, I don't know.

we're like just go-getters. Yeah. Growing up and being, and not growing up, but like you said, you were seeing high school, you started taping and so you had that going on. Happy Pride Month, Toronto. Pride is an opportunity for you to create your own space, to celebrate your existence.

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that's not me. You think you know me. Um, Mimi Fow said from love and hip hop, she went viral saying, you have to take advantage of reality TV and plan for life after the camera start rolling. For sure. I think that's with anything. as a professional athlete. At some point in time, the tennis shoes aren't going to squeak on the court and the basketball is going to go flat.

That's right. And the air in the football is not going to sail. And people are not going to applaud you. So now what do you do? So I don't just think that's a reality television. I think that's with anybody that's in a say like a professional sport. Yeah.

Because you have to plan for after that. You look at the Kardashians. And I don't think they thought that when they started keeping up with the Kardashians, this thing was going to have a 15, 20-year run and they built an empire, a billion dollar empire. Absolutely. What is the lesson to be learned in reality television?

Because you said like, yeah, I get more eyeballs, but I also get more lies. People make it up stuff because you are and it seems more believable. Well, she's out there, they had to know something. Ain't nobody just making up stuff. People ain't making up stuff on random people. Yeah, but people don't know random people. They know Angela Simmons and she's in the spotlight. Yeah.

Well, you know, something I learned and I feel like this is something. So I mean, it's like, live for the praise, die by the praise. Okay. And so to me, that, like you said, in reality, it can be in sports. It can be anywhere. It's like, if you only care about what you're getting out of what people are saying, that's not going to get you nowhere. Yeah.

So it's like really being able to extract yourself from that, right? Like, it's nice that when people congratulate you, but are you good when they're not there clapping. Yes. You know what I mean? Like, for me, like, if you're not clapping, that's cool. I'm here. I'm supporting myself. I got my team.

I got my people on my side. That's the most important part. But always you have to, you have to plan for outside of. just that. Like, yeah, like you said, the cameras stop rolling. Okay, what else was next? Right. You know, I don't have no cameras rolling me right now, but a lot of times that's by choice too. Right. But it's like, what do you want to do and going and fully executing it and doing it followed through it? Did you know what you really wanted to do? Because like you said, okay, this happened my senior high school. They started rolling. I'm going to college. And so did

reality change anything about what you wanted to do with your life? Did it change the major or what you did in college, did that change anything? Of course, because it gave my sister and I at the time when we did our sneakers a platform to do it. Yes. Right? So we started something there. We traveled the entire world. We're in Europe. We're here. We're there. And we're doing that. But that was all based off of being on a show that people actually got to watch unfold. So did it change anything? Absolutely. It gave me a platform for people to see me. When you did Daddy's Girl, why was it important to you promoted the sneaker company, pastry footwear? And it went from 15 million in the first year to 75 million doing this production and surpassed Jordan at Foot Locker.

Zadale rocked him. Yeah. Haley Bieber, it was a fun. We had a really fun run with that. Like I said, we learned a lot. Business-wise, being 17 and stepping into something that big with like, whoa, okay. And even like getting the news that, you know, our sneakers were competing with Jordan at the time. Like, we were like, what?

We're competing with Jordan. You know, because, like, we love Jordan. You know what I mean? But at the time, like, you know, there were no sneakers for women. buy women that understood the design part, and they just stood out. I mean, going to these foot locker stores and 3,000 plus people lining up just to come see us and us to sign autographs and put them to buy sneakers was like, whoa, this is different. So I'm here, y'all, and it's time for tall drinks, short sleeves and cooling Tommy John's underwear.

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You know, you have your audience. It's not just people tune in to watch what you're talking about, basically. So I do feel like it's powerful. How real is reality television? Depends on the show. Because you know what I'm saying? normally like you don't normally have cameras. They don't normally say action, cut.

That's not how life works. You get up and you go and you do what you do. You know, you do what you do. And so, and it's like, man, is this, is this, do they really behave like this? It's because you see some and all they're doing is carrying on and do you see some. It's like, okay. And it seems like the more entertaining, people want to be entertained. Smoke and mirrors, I think, with some of the shows.

Like our show was family driven. Yeah. very like it was real. It was real dynamic. I mean, maybe that day we were meeting at the dog store for me to pick up a dog, but what was happening in that store at the time is real. And there's a real dynamic, and I'm with my real family. When you see some of these other things that may seem like a little crazy,

I mean, some of it's contrived and some of it's not. It's, you just got to figure out what show you watching. Growing up hip hop, you pitched and produced the show cast member growing up hip hop. Have you always wanted to be like your father? and was in the business, but like a producer and behind the camera, is that, I mean, what did you, let me ask you quick. What did you go to fashion school? Obviously, you went to fashion school.

So you wanted to be a designer? What do you want to be doing? So a design is like what I decided. I knew I loved, like creatively. But then like once I'd done Run's house, you know, just seeing the cameras behind the scenes and how it works. And next thing you know, you do it so many seasons in, you're like, I can run this whole thing. Like, I know how to get behind and produce this.

I know where this camera should be. I know that this is continuity. Like, you just know how to do it. And so when it came to creative ideas for growing up hip hop, I was like, how do we get together all of these different people who walk these different parts of life when it comes to, you know, having an icon as your mom, dad, or whoever it may be and coming together and seeing what that looks like.

But creatively, like it just naturally, these are things, like everything I do, I feel like naturally just comes to me. It's like something that I've been around and I perfect and I learn and that's how I get there. How was that experience? Different. It was different, right? Because I feel like, you know, when I first started the season for growing up hip hop, I

had intentions of it being one way and they went all of the little like fighting and stuff happened. Like I wasn't into it no more. You probably didn't see me on the show that much after that. But I think mixing a bunch of people, it can get messy if you guys are not super close. And so I'm not into messy reality. I'm not into messy, period. Right.

So. You're like, I'm too grown for that. Yeah, I don't do that. I got a son. I got other things going on. I don't want no mess. But it was an interesting ride, I would say. I mean, I think there was the ups, the highs and the lows.

I loved ones, my sister and my brother were on it because, again, that's like home. Yeah, so being able to have them on the show with me, I feel like was a really good part. I feel like that show followed a lot of my life. that was happening in real time. And it was, it was a lot. Right. It's interesting.

Like, when you did Reverend Run's house, is it a situation where, like, they give your father X amount of dollars and he distributed? Or did you negotiate your,

because you're like 17, 18 years old. You're like, okay. I ain't got nothing to do with that. The deals and negotiations for that, it come through like, you know,

like, it would go through like my dad and like they would do it like that. Okay, okay. So I was like, you're like, you know what dad? You know,

I think I've been due for a raise, you know what I'm saying? Oh, my God, no. I mean, we were all taken care of and everything was getting to us what we needed, but right. No, I didn't do it like that. Growing up with your father, obviously have nice. So did your, did your friends look at you as like, well, you know, you got this? Did y'all go to skating parties? Did y'all do things together as like, because like, I mean, Arjanae said little Wayne, her father

was sending her money and she would like, treat the other kids. Were you as generous with your father's? Well, the fun for me was like when they would come stay and I had my, my house because we had like the basketball court and the bowling alley. Oh, you had friends over? Yeah. I would have, they would prefer me not to do sleep. Like, you bring them here. You know what I mean?

So like my friends that were close to me would come sleep over and that's when the fun would happen. Right. When I had my graduation, my dad let me do the whole big graduation party in the back. Like, so I would just bring people over, like the ones that are close. Right. Did you ever, did you ever spend the night at friends home? Yeah, I had like a friend I was best friends with it.

My mom probably and my dad, they let me like, sleep over one girl's house and that was it for the most part the answer is no they can come here really yeah they're funny with that i understand i have my own so i get it it's like you know what's going on these people's houses but i want it no no no they can come here do your son do your son sleep over hey does he have a friend a family he can stay a family's house that's it i mean like he has a lot of god brothers and cousins and stuff so those houses but other than that i would say yeah i can come over here. Up close and personal

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I'm like, we? You know, I'm like, I know these guys, but who are you? I'm MC Jen, and this is laugh but not least. I'll be chatting with guests from all walks of life about the power of humor when it comes to facing difficult times. like the co-founder of Rough Riders, Darren D. Dean. Talking about as a kid, do you remember that we met even way before that? Let me think.

Did you walk up to the gate? That was me, Dee. That was me. The day we found out that you and the whole crew was at Hit Factory, the mission was to get me to go to the gate, start freestyleing, and see if I could get in the studio. I'm rapping, and then suddenly I hear a voice, hey, open the gate, let him in.

The gate slowly went, come, come, come, come. They all, they're watching this, and they watch me walk into there, and that is a moment that I will remember for the rest of my life. Listen and laugh but not least with MC Jen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Here's something that should not be as complicated as it is. Getting a racist statue removed.

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Were there more good or bad intentions? I don't know. It's probably a mix, right? I think you don't find out about the bad intentions to you, far. too far too deep in. Especially when you're young. Like when you're young, it's like everything's cool. Like, yeah, sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, now you know. And everything sounds good at the time. He's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. So how did you, how did you like find your way through that? Angela, it's not easy. Well, my sister's four years older than me.

So I had her as a navigating partner, Vanessa. And so like, I feel like she was really helpful when it came to those things because I would always run stuff by her or she would run stuff by me. But I was watching what she was. doing like okay how she moving right because like I would go out with her right ahead of time but I would say that she was helpful when it came to navigating like dating and then like yeah I'll say my sister was really a part of that by while was on um growing up hip hop and you guys have a history his mom hold you in bear high regard she's awesome she holds you in very high regard and even

he said she's ring worthy oh that's really nice I didn't know that What is that? I mean, think about it. Like you said, you didn't know that. So what does that mean to you that she's ringworthy? Because I think the perception is not everybody says they want to get married and nobody is really, I mean, there are. But, you know, you date or you do whatever you do. When someone says, man, Angela Simmons, she's ringworthy.

How does that make you feel? That's nice. I like that. I mean, I know I will one day be an amazing wife. So that makes me happy that, you know, a man can see that. So I would say that that makes me feel good. Um, is it true? A part of the reason you guys went your separate ways is that you was, you know, you was a virgin and wanted to maintain a virgin, wanted to maintain your, your, your virginity and your purity until you got married. And you were able to do that until you were 28. Yeah, that's real. 28? Yeah. 20. Oh, hello. Did you just like, did you like go to a nun? Did you not go out? Did you not get? I'm like, damn, man, how are you doing? 28? Yeah, I was 28.

But I'm like, I mean, think about the 17. And I got a teenage daughter. I had teenage daughters. So I know the boy thing is real. And teenage, late teenage and early 20s and all your friends, and you see everybody doing this. I didn't care. So the real thing is like my dad and I hold my dad in a very, very high regard.

He sat me down. I had to be like, I'm going to go back to 17 or 18. And he was like, he sat me my son down. He was like, I want you guys, you know, to hold out to wait and da-da-da-da. And I just took it to heart. And then one day I remember going to church and they were discussing all these things about waiting to marriage. And I was like, you know what?

I'm away. So it went from like my dad telling me to like hearing in church. And then I was like, I'm just going to wait until I meet the right person like for marriage. And then time kept ticking. And I was like, dang, I'm 28. This is crazy. But, um, but yeah, I waited until then. And that, yeah, you asked me two questions.

I'm like, wait, I went from that. Yeah. Because like, like when someone says that you're ring worthy. Yeah. And it seems to be. But do are you the perfect person I want to ask? Do all women, is it the ring? Is it the ceremony?

Or is it the part of being a wife? Because there's more to being a wife than just getting a ring. It's bigger than the ring. It's the life you're going to have with that person. You know what I mean? It's the unity underneath God. I think it's, there's so many legs to it. I mean, having that is like, it's a commitment.

Like, let's make a commitment in front of God. Do people understand that? I don't know about now. I'll be looking at people like, I don't know. Some girls maybe just want a ring. I want more than a ring. Right. You know, having a ring to me, like, if your relationship's not together, I don't want the ring. Like, I want to walk around proud with my commitment with my ring on my hand because I know I love my man.

And I don't think anything's perfect. But at the same time, like this shows that we locked in. Right. You know what I mean? Like you with me, I'm with you. And I don't know that publicly shows something. We know we locked in before the ring because obviously to get to that point, you had to know that you were going to be together. It's young care. Let me tell you something.

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marriage should look like and how it should be. Obviously, nobody is 100% happy all the time. No. There's work that's involved. Yeah. But you've had both parents on both sides. You just said been in long-term relationships after they're written in divorce. Marriage is. Yeah. me, marriages after their relationship, the previous marriages. So you understand what it takes. And you understand, yeah, there have been time that my mom and my stepmom and my dad and my stepmom or my mom and my stepdad, but they work it out. But you know what's crazy is like even both sides. Like my mom and my stepdad, Alfonzi and my dad and my stepdad, they've never showed. Like they, we didn't really see.

They don't do that in front of you. We've not seen that. Like I always seen like unity. I mean, if they ever were having an argument, they would not do that in front of us. Like, wow. So we seen like, for me, I remember seeing like really good, healthy relationships when they come to those marriages. Like, wow. Marriage. Would you ever spend the block and marry an ex? If it makes sense.

Why don't I guess this? If it makes sense. I don't, I don't put like no hold on myself and say what I would and what I don't do. Like, think about it. Like, I waited. I once always always I was married and I have a kid. and like just thinking about my life and what I've said as a younger person

like, yeah, I'm gonna do this. And then you look up, didn't do it like that. So like I will be lying to myself if I don't say, I don't know. I don't necessarily have intentions to say, look, let me go be with this person. I'm going to marry them.

But you never know. Like, it could be. So you were able to wait until you with 28 years of age. Yeah. If someone's like, Angela, how did you do it? Because I'm sure, I'm sure women have come up to you and ask, well, how are you able to do it? How are you able to maintain relationships?

Yeah. And still like, because, you know, guys look, we look at like, baby, if you really love me, you know, let your boy do that. Yeah. I feel like I had a lot of great reasons to change my mind along the way, right? And I was like, nope, I'm holding out. I'm holding out. And I was in long-term relationships in between.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, I had guys that was in long-term relationships, and I'm like, thinking after that, like, they really waited. That's crazy. And they weren't the one, so I don't know. I mean, you don't know they might have been crazy. I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, the stomach hurt now? You're like, oh, oh, oh, Lord, have mercy. I don't know. I mean, I even look at myself like, wow, I have strong willpower. But I know that about myself. Like, if I want to do something, I'm locking in, I'm doing it. I said, nobody can take me left or right.

So when it came to that, I was like, this is the commitment I'm making, and that's it. And that's it. And I'm sticking to it. So when you were in that relationship, when you finally did it, once you finally had, you know, you had sex. I got engaged. You got engaged. And so if you get mad at your partner, you say, nah, ain't nothing happening here this night.

Ain't nothing happening here this week. You stand on that, huh? What, what you mean? What happening? Ain't nothing going on. Let's just say you get mad at your partner. Yeah. And, you know, sometimes, you know, like makeup, that's the best.

Okay. And you're like, nah, that ain't going down, partner. Well, who's saying it's not going down? Oh, so you could be mad at him? So you mad at him. Not him. No, I mean, here's my thing about even arguments and relationship. If we're staying together, some more we got to get over it.

So I don't want to get over it. So you want to get it out and help you get over quicker. Let's be over it. Like, what's the problem? Can we get to the middle of it? And then I'm like, okay, like, what are we going to go do? Like, I'm not trying to stay mad. Okay, okay.

I don't like that. I don't want to go to bed, mad. I don't want to be mad. You can have a little space and then can we please come back and fix the problem? That's my thing. But was it hard in your early 20s? Because a lot of your friends and you see a lot of people in their 20s, That's when they try to, they maybe experiment with certain things and they find out a lot about themselves.

But it seems to me you already knew about who you were and what you wanted to be and who you wanted to be. So you know what? Nah, doing that ain't going to tell me anything more about myself than I already know. I felt confident in my decision. You know what I mean? I think that it happened for a reason. I got to like openly, like freely date knowing that I'm not doing that too. So it was like, cool.

Like I don't really, I got to really know people too. I think it teaches you how to really get to know somebody without that on the table, too. So. But then you ended up having, you get into a relationship and you end up having a, you're having a child at 29, right? No, 28. 28. 28. Well, was I 29?

No, I turned 20. Don't give me lines. 28 to 29. Either way, like, I got engaged, had a baby at 28. Right. Yeah. And unfortunately, your child's father ended up succumbing to gun violence. how difficult of a situation where because now you're like all my life I've waited 28 years

to be in this relationship and to have this relationship and this is what God sent me he sent me this man and this is everything that I've always wanted and to have it so tragically taken away um it's so many layers that we actually weren't together when it happened um we had broken apart broken up but it's one of those things that to me to this day is surreal because it's like I could have never imagined that this would be my story. You know what I mean? And then like the hardest part, you know, is like looking at your son and knowing like, that would have been his best friend.

Like they would have been, he's so much like his dad when it comes to like certain things like from my son likes interior decorating. My son likes cooking. My son likes clothing. My son likes, just so many things that his dad would like, but like I could have never seen this like that happening to me. But it's very hard. It's an ongoing thing. It's grief.

It's a lot. How difficult was it to receive that phone call, even though you guys weren't together at the time? Horrible. Horrible. Horrible. I remember where I was at. I remember the feeling. I remember that was the first time that I realized like, oh, wow, this is what people mean when you feel numb.

Like, my body physically felt numb when I got that. news like for days like I was waking up every day and I'm like this can't be real right like this can't be my story and then my son's name is his father's name so I was like how am I going to say that name and not think of his dad every time I say like how am I going to do it so going in therapy was like the only thing that helped me do you like do you still call him by his father's name or do you call him his name is SJ well his name is Sutton his nickname is SJ because his middle name is Joseph I'm named after my dad okay so So it's Sutton Joseph, but he prefers that, like, in school, he's like, he likes people

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You know, I didn't know he would look that up. How did he know? Do you think someone told him or he's just an inquisitive kid? He was inquisitive his whole. He's been inquisitive since three. He would tell, you know, and I would say, you know, somebody did something really bad to him. And, you know, you don't want to share those details with a kid. But he, um, looked it up himself.

He would even tell, like, my son's mother. He would tell her, like, you guys can tell me, like, what happened to my dad? at like three, four, he's asking these questions and we're like, you know, we can't, you know, how do we as a family tell him what happened without it affecting him? So, no, like, I don't, I didn't realize that there was no perfect way or time to tell him, you know, like what happened. So when he found out, I'm assuming he came to you. It's like, call me. I was on my way to, like, an event and he called me crying, falling. They were like, he's upset. He sees, he. He's, dad, his dad was shot.

Like, he's like, why did they shoot him? Like, it's like 18 or 19 times in the back. Like, he's like, why didn't know why? You know, like, he's, and mind he's nine now, so this had to be at seven. Wow. So I'm like, who, how do you explain that to a kid? Right. You know. You're going to a vent. You don't want to lose it.

You don't want to. So I was like, I had to sit there and talk to him for a while, kind of calm him down, but I could have never imagined that that's the conversation I'm having with you was seven years old. Wow. Yeah. Do you think the internet? I mean, what else you think he's found on the internet that you're kind of waiting to tell him?

Because it seems like he's very, very, very inquisitive. So you might as well, just go ahead and get that open. And if you might as well go ahead and get that open. He's super smart. He waits, though. He'll hold information. And then he'll ask you later, quisitive, he'll keep it. And he'll, like, when he's ready to have a conversation, he'll bring it up.

The kid is something else. In fact, he probably will see this. He's like, you'd be talking about me to people like, huh? He's something. else, okay? Does it, knowing that he is so inquisitive, understanding that the internet is forever, does that make you more mindful of the things that you post? Does it make it more mindful of the things that you say?

Because there's going to be probably if it gets, if you say it, you are Angela Simmons. Yeah. If you say it, if you post it, it's going to be on the internet and he'll be able to have an opportunity to find it. I feel like I've always kind of been mindful of everything I say and who I am and what I do. And so, like, I don't feel like there's information out there that I would be like, I'm not proud of it. You know what I mean?

Or I wouldn't have a conversation with him about it. Like, this was this at this time. So I don't feel like I have to put an extra, like, layer of filter because, like, I am who I am. You know what I mean? If you think your family got drama, wait until you see Little Brother on Netflix. You've got John Cena, this big-time real estate superstar whose whole perfect little life gets turned upside down when his wild little brother, played by Eric Andre, come crashing back into the picture. And trust me, Eric Oner,

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That's my birthday. Only on Netflix. I saw a video of your son riding with your dad in the car. How influential and how helpful has your father been in helping you raise a son? He's great when it comes to advice. Like, I'll call him about anything and his advice is always like right on time. And my son is so cool because he has his own relationship with each grandparent. And so my dad and his relationship's really cute and fun.

And when we go over there, my son loves cars. And my dad knows that. So ever since he was literally like, come on, let's get in the car. And so he'll ask questions about the cars and all that stuff. So it's really, they have a really good relationship. You were in a relationship, a public relationship with Yo Gotti and he tragically lost his brother to gun violence. And it's something that, you know, going through, unless someone has been through it,

it's kind of hard to like to know what that person is going through. But you had been through it. the son of you, the father of your son had tragically lost his life. So you guys were able to talk about it on a level that maybe not a whole lot of people would have been an understanding. So how would you able to like, because it's tough. A family member, I mean, like you said, when you got that phone call so you can just imagine him getting a phone call that his brother had lost his life. Yeah, I think right of respect for his family and everything, I don't really want to discuss like stuff around like stuff like that. Okay.

That's good. I tell you what you do want to discuss, Memphis. It's been in the Luz a lot lately from the NBA players talking about the hotels and the accommodations. And I'm assuming a goddess from Memphis that you didn't stay in a hotel where you were in Memphis. But the cuisine and the nightlife and what is like, give the people a glance. Because, and what I was trying to tell you've got to understand, these guys make $30, $40, $50 million a year. They used to stand in the Ritz and the fourth season and the montage and these pletial estates. the Hyatt, best western of days in, they're going to cut it for them.

Even if it's only for what Luther Vandross, only for one night. Talk to us about Memphis. You spent some time in Memphis. You know what it's like, the dining, the nightlife. What was it like? I would just say, you know, I've spent time there. I even before him, like, I would go there for, like, work and for, um, signings and different stuff. But I would say food, food is good.

It's just that I'm vegetarian, vegan. Oh, man, you can't go to Memphis no damn vegetarian. You need to go to California. So for me, I can say the sides. I found good sides. But they looked at me like I was crazy. Like, oh, you don't eat no meat. We ain't got that for you.

So I don't know if y'all want to hear my perspective on Poon in Memphis. But hey, you know. So how long have you been vegetarian? Oh, man. Since probably 15, 16, 17 years, I stopped. Your dad's vegetarian? No, no, no. But it's been a long.

So how did you decide to go vegetarian? I mean, what was it about? Started with my uncle when I was like, Oh, yeah, okay, okay. 10 or 11, he was like, watch this video. So I watched this video of all these animals, and I'm like, I don't eat me no more. But then, like, I was like living at home, and I'm like, yeah, it's not going to happen. They're cooking meat, and I'm eating what's being served.

And then finally, for me, what happened is I moved to California with my sister. And I was like, my trainer started working out. And I'm like, oh, I got to eat better. So I start eating better. And then eventually I ate this piece of meat. And I didn't feel good no more. And I said, you know what? I'm done eating meat.

And it was that simple because I remember my uncle saying, I was like, so if I want to be, vegetarian like what I got to do he was like you like rice and beans I'm like y'all he's like okay so you'll be good I'm like that's not gonna fix it but I did wind up just cutting out meat at that point and not eating meat so you don't eat meat period you don't eat fish you don't eat chicken no no meat nothing wow what about eggs um not currently but I do I do eat eggs but not right now milk no milk I try to stay away from dairy but I do like pizza dang yeah I'm good on that I'm I'm good. I got to have that.

I can eat all the sides at steak restaurants. No, I want a steak. You see, you said, you said steak restaurants. But you eat all of the great, the garlic mash and the greens and the... But you know, they put in the fat back and all kinds of stuff. Oh, no, not in all of them. Yeah, they do. And you have, I didn't eat no fat back.

You be eating collard green with turkey dags does smoke bog down in it. No. No. What about, so you're on the breakfast club and they was talking about your Memphis accent. When you go like, I don't know how long you were there, but how did you, did you intentionally pick up that or this is like, well, damn, I'm just, right? This is I here, everybody talking. I didn't even realize I had the accent.

I just think because I'm with somebody so much, you just pick up their accent unintentionally. I'm so New York to people always like, your accent is so New York. So then when the Memphis of it all was like, I do. I sound like I'm from there right now? Like I didn't even realize. Posting on social media, how long or is there a timeline in which an individual date someone before they start posting them online? Is there a set time?

Is it immediately? Is it six months? Is it a year? Is it never? We keep stuff private. If we date in private, we can, you know, break up in private. If we date publicly, we're going to probably date, break up in public. Is there a set time?

which a person should post someone on social media. Let's see. I would say, there's no specific time. I think it depends on the person, the individual, and who you're dating and what you want to do. If you want to be private or you want to be public, I'd suggest you at least get to know the person some before you go posting them.

Otherwise, you'll find out some information, I'm sure. In this day and age, if you're doing something stupid, it's going to come back some way somehow through social media. Right. You mentioned like, look, okay, get to know that person. You don't believe there's a set time, but make sure you know as much as you possibly can before you start posting that person because the last thing you want to do

is post that person and then somebody else posts where we got pictures with him just yesterday. They got five girlfriends and now you're looking stupid. Like bang, why I put you up that quick. I'm in love and so are y'all. When you break up with said individual and you got stuff on your feed, do you remove it or do you leave it?

I mean, it depends. I mean, how far back is it? So if it's what let's just say you can't go all the way back and find me? I'm not going to go down my whole time. Like sometimes it takes you long to get back. Delete. Delete. For the most part, if I see it, I can get rid of it.

Right. Yeah, I mean, if we want to go ahead and just get rid of archive and just move on, then yeah, I don't see nothing wrong with that. How about this? How long are you in the relationship before you introduce someone to your son? I prefer enough time that I feel like that we're actually going to be a thing. thing because now my son locked in we hear my son's inquisitive like I said he looking over my shoulder in my phone I'd be like dad back up he'd be in my business so but I it got to be like we're about to this is it yeah we're gonna be together does he ask you mom when are you gonna start dating again mom

I'm going out he'd be like you're gonna meet someone I'm like will you leave me alone I'm just going out or like he's curious no I'm just going to get tofu not tofu I don't even eat tofu you I know the list shortens. Don't worry. I'm not the, it's real simple what I eat. I like Thai food though. You like Thai food? Yeah, there's good food.

Like noodles? Noodles, the broccoli, there's veggies. There's tons, I promise. It sounds like it's short list, but it's on the list. Have me understand it. Why do you think people are so invested in celebrity relationships? I don't know. I don't have that answer.

Do you? I don't know. I don't really have that answer. You know what? I think a part of it is, and I think the reason why, especially when celebrities do TV, shows. I think the common, the average person

wants to see how similar or how different my life is from theirs. Yeah. I want to see man, you know what? Angela Simmons wake up just like I do. She goes to brush your teeth and wash your face just like I do. And she goes because they want to see how similar

their lives or unsimilar their lives are to what. I can see that. Like seeing the similarities and someone else that's similar to you. Yeah. But yeah, they're just like, got a little fame. Yes. That makes sense. I think that's really what it is because there ain't no reason.

Sometimes people root for people, I say, with the relationships. Yes. Maybe they get invested because they want to see it because I'll run across people and they're like, I hope y'all be together or whatever. You're like, what? What you got to do with this? But it's the hope, I think. Right.

Yeah. But there's, you know, look, there's been a lot over the last couple of years. They've been, Angela, there's been a lot from how much you spend on the first day and where you can take someone on the first day. And it used to be, you know, I remember growing up, it was like Applebee's and Hula heads and TGI Fridays. And now it seems to be, no, we got to go to Del Frisco's or we got to go to Masco's or we got to go to State 40. I'm like, but damn, because if you start way up here, what do we go? What do we go from there?

We can keep going. Ain't but so high. I mean, okay. We can go to Italy next to get some pasta. There's always somewhere else to go. Go. Chef Bar-Dee? I mean, there's tons you can do. Angela, if you start off with that, where do you go? You can start off simple, too. We can go to the Waffle House.

Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. You ain't going to Waffle House. Stop it. See, there you go. You're just throwing out stuff. No, I like waffles. I like waffles. I like waffles. And when I eat eggs, I like the eggs. Oh, you know what they put in grits, though. You don't know. Not at the Waffle House. It's just, um, what? They got butter and everything. I put them bread. Excuse me? Yeah, they got butter and them bread. You said blood? Butter.

Oh, I said, oh. No, butter. Oh. Lots of it. And you know they cook everything on that grill? The butter ain't going to kill me. No, they, well, I don't know. I like the waffles at Waffle House.

But so you can start there. It's all about how you. But you see the, they had a list. And it was like the 50 places you don't take somebody on the first day. And it was like Waffle House and Cheesecake Factory and T. You made this list. Y'all did. I didn't make that list.

Yeah, y'all did. I got nothing to do with that list. Women. No, don't women. Can you see it on the internet? She don't want to get out of the car because he's going here. That's a chain restaurant. I don't do chain restaurants.

I do sing-you- As long as we're building up something, what if we started at the Waffle House and you did something really nice, and you did the flowers and you had a conversation. Who did your get flowers going to the Waffle House? You should get that regardless. I really think that's the most, that is the most simple thing. I mean, you could go to a store and get flowers. You can order them.

So you want the man showing up. So he come pick you up. You want him. Soon as you know. There you go. My love. Beautiful. He should have pre-sent mine.

But I'm just saying that there are. Well, come on. See that what I'm talking about. I just think he should pre-stained mine. Like the lot of them or the forever flowers, you know. Oh, you like the forever flowers? I like both because like I like options. So like, you know, the ones that are alive and the ones that you can like leave on your table.

And I'll always remember, remember you sent me those, you know? So anytime you go out, you want your man to already have sent you flowers. That would be nice. That's really thoughtful. See, I'm not even asked for a gift there. I'm saying flowers. It's just thoughtful. There are so many places you get flowers from.

But I'm just saying, Angela, you're going out at least once a week, twice a week. I know men that give their wives and their girls flowers every week and send like a lot of them. I do. I tell you, how about this here? Carlos, I used to when I was in California. I would have flowers sent to the house because I like flowers too. Have a nice arrangement sent. How about if I just send you an arrangement?

Send you an arrangement once a week. That's nice. That's so thoughtful. If somebody just hit send on auto reset and you just keep, why not? Okay. I don't think that's bad. You think that's a lot to ask for from a guy? No, I don't.

I feel like that's like super thoughtful, just little cute little notes and stuff. But those three, two, three hundred dollars a week add up quick though. It do. It do. Get there. But then you could always replace it. See, you said he didn't do, though. I mean, you could always replace it with something else, but it's just the thought that can't.

I don't know. There's always just being thought. Oh, my goodness. So you're a, you're a gift gal, huh? You like gifts. That's the love language, absolutely. That's your love. That's a love language.

One of them. Okay. Yeah, I like stuff like that. I am a hopeless romantic person. I hope you find somebody that's having to provide that lifestyle for you. I've experienced this. Yes. And that's the thing.

Once you get to that, I don't see, ain't no way. You ain't going back down. You're not. You're not. And I think this is what happens when women, when they date athletes, celebs, entertainers,

once you get in that lifestyle, once you go into Santerini, or you've gone to the Maldives, or you've been on a private jet, or you've gone to this all-inclusive. You don't want to go back. And the dude, and the dude,

he might be the man of your dream. dreams, but the best he got for you, a trip to Miami. That might have work, though. You can make it work. When you go to the Maldives in Bali and you stand on those bungalows that's overlooking the world. Depends on where we go in Miami, because there are a lot of amazing places in Miami. Which one better than the Maldives?

I mean, it's not better. At the four seasons at the Maldives where you're overlooking. Well, okay. Okay, I understand where you're going on. And you've been on a private jet, Angela? Of course. I don't know. I'm just saying once you've been on that and you just pull up, you ain't got no airport, you ain't got no TSA. Or when you've been on Emirates, the first club. That's what I want to go. I love that place.

Emirates, they say a, uh, uh, you haven't done that one yet. No, I haven't. Singapore. That's so amazing. They got, they got, they got like, Singapore looks amazing. The beds. Yes, yes. I got to do that. The Dubai one is like, the trip is on the plane to me. Like, sitting there. Yeah, you got our food as many times you want. Yeah. Yeah, you got a little reclion. It's more than a reclining. That's a full. bed. I think I could, I think I might be able to do. It's nice. I hate being on the plane. And then they got the bar in the back. You get up and walk around. It's fun. You've been on it? Yeah, a couple times, a lot of times. Damn. Oh, dang. I don't want to go back on it. I think that's a good idea. I mean,

I just, I just, I just, I just do Delta first class. We just, I don't. That's all I got. That's all I got. I ain't got to hear me. Delta one is good. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part 2 is also posted and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to Part 1 on. Just simply go back to Club Shet Shay Profile and I'll see you there. This is Michael Rappaport and my podcast, the I Am Rapaport Stereo podcast, is unlike anyone you've ever heard. If you're looking for strong opinions about sports, entertainment, politics, pop culture and whatever else catches my attention, then subscribe now. This kid, Jafar Jackson, should absolutely positively. get nominated for his portrayal as Michael Jackson.

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