Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay Best of 2023

Episode Date: December 22, 2023

What a year it’s been at Club Shay Shay! Enjoy this recap of some of the best moments from 2023 and prepare for more captivating conversations with Shannon Sharpe in 2024 because you never know who���s going to stop by The Club… 00:00:00 Chad Johnson saved 83% of his salary by flying Spirit Airlines and wearing fake jewelry  00:09:40 Marshawn Lynch laughed in Pete Carroll’s face when Russell Wilson threw the infamous Super Bowl 49 interception 00:24:30 Tommy Davidson talks about the time Will Smith almost beat him up for kissing Jada Pinkett Smith  00:34:06 Andre Iguodala says Steph Curry is better than Magic Johnson  00:47:08 Steve Harvey's beef with Bernie Mac and Cedric The Entertainer & bombing first night after his mom died  01:01:30 Deion Sanders talks women running game on NFL players and explains why MLB was harder than the NFL  01:11:38 Stephen A. Smith & Shannon Sharpe debate LeBron James vs Michael Jordan for the first time #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Why are you telling Marvin? Marvin going to come third year. Why are you telling me go rent a house, go buy a house, go rent a condo, when everything I need is right here in the facility at Paul Brown? Right. Showers, cafeteria, TV, couch, gaming system. What's the point?

What's the point? And I was so locked in, it really wasn't about having my own space and having women come in. What's the point? What's the point? And I was so locked in, it really, it wasn't about having my own space and having women come in and help me. What about the dating life? How you going to bring somebody? For what? I'm locked in. I'm a rookie.

I ain't got time. Date for what? Date for what? I needed that one year lock in, catch the rhythm. My second year, I caught the rhythm. I caught the rhythm of the game. I felt like, OK, I got it now. Because I think a third year, I came and I did a sit down with you in your place. Yeah, yeah. At that point, OK, I got the rhythm. I caught the rhythm of the game. I felt like, okay, I got it now. Because I think a third year, I came and I did a sit-down with you in your place.

Yeah, yeah. At that point, okay, I got it now. I was good. And that's when Marvin came in and also said, now it's time for you to be responsible. Spread your wings, get your own place. So, listen, I moved right down the street. One light old place. I'll never forget.

One little bedroom. You mentioned that you're fiscally responsible. Is there anything that you purchased you like? I wish I had have little bedroom. You mentioned that you're fiscally responsible. Is there anything that you purchase you like? I wish I had done that. That was a waste of my effing money. Probably some of the cars, maybe in year four, but it. All those don't Chevy's? Yeah.

The high-end vehicles. But I didn't purchase at least I leased everything. Bugatti, Ferrari. I did it all. But the funny thing about it is, is I got to a point in my career, and I wish people, athletes more so, if you can get to a point in your career where your name becomes bigger than anything you can purchase, there's your value. Wow. My name itself, Ocho Cinco at one point, even still to this day, is bigger than,

why am I driving a Ferrari? Why am I driving a Rolls Royce and I'm Ocho? Oh, we talk about jewelry and watches and chains. But you already had, but see, the thing is, you already had, it's easy for you to do that now, Ocho, because you had the jewelry. You had the car. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Never bought real anything when I was playing. Never. What was the point? I went to Claire's. So all your jewelry was for you? Yes, for what? What am I doing it for? The women don't deal with you anyway because of who you are. Right.

And then the other women who are really doing their homework don't Google how much you're making already. Right. Why am I buying a $50,000 watch, $80,000 watch? What time is it real quick? Please. It's 20 minutes to 4. How much that cost me? Didn't cost you nothing.

Because time is free. So what I'm paying for it for? Right. For what? I'm Ocho. What's the point? Right. There's nothing I can buy that's bigger than my name alone.

So it made no sense. But everybody's caught up in image and looking a certain way and being rich it's me it's pointless how do you how do you express that to your kids when they know who you are they know they know what you have that's the hard part is getting them to have that mindset i have because they ain't cutting it with the miss missus, oh, she ain't having it. Them 8 and 1 1⁄2 carats, oh, that's real. Right.

Anything I purchase for her is real. It's real. Yeah, so the kids, I allow them to do the designer and the nice stuff, because I done saved, what, 80%, 83% of my salary. So it's OK. And I have stuff coming in already. Oh, yes, still coming in.

Thank you, Dougie. And so life is good because I was able to sustain and keep most of my wealth that I made when I was playing. And life is still going good. So I allow the kids to enjoy. But I need them to understand they're going to come a time. Ah! They're going to get on daddy payroll.

You correct. They get off that payroll. But for right now, I will always be there for them, no matter what they want. Long as you don't try to live a lifestyle that you know you can't afford. Right. You can't do that.

I'm going to let you enjoy yourself now. Right. You went for viral for wearing the same outfit on a trip. Yeah. Because I think I heard you packed, you went, maybe it was soccer, and you packed like three outfits and you were there for like two weeks. That's it. That's all you need. Like

a couple pair of drawers, a couple t-shirts, and a pair of shorts. That's all you need. I took all, blended family. We all went to the Bahamas for New Year's. So the kids, I know they like to look nice. You know the young kids these days. Man, okay, we can all go to a Mary.

So I took all the kids to Mary, all of them. Everybody got outfit. Everybody got shoes. I got my little outfit. Price tag, $23,000. Huh? Ooh, $23,000. Remember, it's eight of us now.

Mary ain't cheap. Hold up. So what did they put back? They ain't put nothing back. This is a one time thing. It's the holidays. Yeah. Twenty three thousand.

So boom. OK. I understood what I just paid for all this stuff for the kids. We're gonna have a good time. We stayed at Atlantis. I ain't take that and marry off the whole trip. I took me a shower. I took me a shower.

Each day change underwear. Put a new tank top on and put that shit right back on. You know what I paid for this? I don't care who see me. So I made my own personal video letting people know you probably gonna see me over and over in the same outfit. Let me give you an understanding why. And I always do that all the time. I shop at H&M. Look, this whole outfit, this cost me $60. It's Urban urban outfitters and it's from the sale rack it's a levi and jacket and some dickies that's cut off like i'm a skateboarder i don't skate i don't skate but i look good yeah so that's your that's your whole thing and i've

always been this way so you can't the people on the outside that might be new to who i am now that a little older don't understand i've been this way the past 20 25 years so you're not gonna let society shape ocho cinco's idea of who he is or what he should be never never I never never been that way because I don't need validation from nobody on the outside never have and that's another that's gonna give you validation you straight the kids give you a validation that dad we good and some of the time they make fun of me so I don't really need validation from me you know but that's another downfall for us, too. Right.

That's another downfall. In society, we always need validation and acceptance from others. If Commissioner Goodell let you into the rookie symposium and let you talk and I'm the two. He need to let me do it. Well, hopefully they're watching this. I need to do it.

I got Roger on speed dial. I got him on speed dial. I need to do that. About financial literacy. Yes. But the problem is, is it's going to go in one ear and out the other, especially at that age. It's like me going to talk to kids and that's getting NIL deals. Right.

You got everybody in your ear. You don't know who to tell no to. You got all these investment people. You know how many horror stories there are about NFL players that invest in companies? I mean, Usain Bolt just going through an issue. 12.7, I saw that. Going out of his account. Because the investment, listen, the best investment person is yourself. Do your homework. You don't need all these people. Because if they knew, name one investment person that's in a position and is rich.

How are you going to tell me what to do with my money and you haven't made it yet to give me an example of what I should do? Nah, man, I don't like that. I don't like that. We put our money in too many people's hands and you don't know what's going on. You say you interned at Morgan Stanley. Was it of the utmost importance that you go understand? Morgan Stanley. Was it of the utmost important that you go understand?

You knew what money was, but now that I have it, how do I keep it? And that's what I always tell guys. It's not how much you make, it's how much you keep. And the funny part about it is people, social media, well, if I spend this bag, I'm just going to make it back.

Mm-mm. No, no, no. It ain't like you think. No. And people, they think the cure and the fix for the problem is, well, give me more money, I'm going to be all right. But the more you make, the more you spend. Right.

If you have no discipline and no structure. Yes, absolutely. Every time. Yes. Every time. Well, just give me more and more. No, the more you get, the more you're going to spend. And people ain't going to listen because we are caught up

in looking a certain way, living a certain way, trying to appease others who don't really care nothing about you. Yeah. Just to say, oh, I got it. Wow. Well, shit, I got it too, and I had it for almost 30 years. So has that, is that in us, or is that social media?

Because I look at social media i'm like well damn i might need to get me another job or two because how he's like he she got how listen we can't compete with people that's scamming and doing fraud okay we can't do that no i can't we can't do that i like my freedom can't do that now there are very few people that can sustain that lifestyle consistently over time because normally people that can sustain that lifestyle consistently over time because normally people that's making it legally and doing the right thing they don't post it on social media no no you know you know how hard it is to live like that all the time consistently and be fly every day during listen eras of rappers think about the era before before us right

everybody was flashy stunned stun, stun. And after 10 years, what happens? They ain't flashy. They ain't stunning. No, you can't. It's impossible to sustain. It's impossible. I would like to fly private.

I need to get me out. I want to make enough money I can fly private. Fly private? Yeah. Shh. I ain't flying private. Spirit. Dougie, where I fly, Dougie?

Spirit. Put me on Spirit. Exit row, window seat. That's all I need, long as I get from point A to point B. I don't need private. I want to do this. I just want to. Super Bowl XLIX.

Oh, shit. Oh, you're getting right. Russ come on down one knee, because Russ will get down on one knee when he in the huddle. And you hear the play, because you on the one yard line, Marshawn. You on the one yard line. Russ in the huddle. and he's calling out to play what's going through

your mind shit I'd be honest I look at I look at all nine of the other guys and they look at me like what the fuck just happened? And I mean, you know at the time even as he's calling the play in the huddle cuz they look you got one yard. We got demanded we got we got beast mode. We got 225 35 pounds sledgehammer was hanging and we got a timeout. So if we don't get it was hanging and we don't get it on this first second down. we don't get it on this first, second down, we going to get it on third. We going to get it on fourth. We going to get this ball in there.

But B's got to touch it. B's got to have it. What's happening? Man, the look on all my teammates' face in the huddle, you know, it spoke volumes. And, I mean, you know, processing the shit. If you go back and you look at the play, I actually lined it. Because I'm, shit, I'm processing. I'm lined up on the wrong side.

I'm lined up on the wrong side, man. Russell got to tell you. I'm bouncing from back and forth behind like, oh, shit. And by the time it sat in, like, motherfucker, what did we just call? You just hear all the cheering from the other sideline. Like, what the fuck? So you didn't know Malcolm Butler had picked the ball up? Man, because they sent me on the flat.

Yeah, you were. Yeah. You feel me? I'm running out there like, shit, well, at least you're going to hit me in the flat. Yeah, yeah. And I get my head around. He ain't tackling you one on one. What the fuck you want?

Like, what's... What happened back there? I don't see no ball coming on. All right. And see them motherfuckers jumping up and down and cheering like. Oh, shit. He just threw a pick. And at that time, you know, there was a lot of shit going on. You know what I mean? So as you're walking off the field, the defense is coming on the field.

God. So was it inter-interaction? Did anybody say anything? Did the defense say, man, what the F was that? Who called that bull jive? We look back at it. You see everybody, you know, they show the reaction. I mean, you see the reaction. Sherm, Earl, Bruce, D-line, all that.

You see the reaction from everybody and then as I'm going back to the sideline, you know, I go by Russ and I just hear him like, oh man, I'll get him next time. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And as I hear the shit, I don't really, I usually don't take my helmet off, but I take my helmet off, and I go right to Pete Carroll's face, and I'm talking about I hit his ass with the biggest. You laughed at his face? What the? And at that point, shit.

Shit. I go to the locker room. I'm out. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I don't see all the shit going on. I don't see none of this shit. I don't see the last few plays.

Where they getting the scuffling and they pushing and shoving. You was already gone? I'm in the fucking... You in the locker room? I'm in the locker room. So by the time they come to the locker room you probably already dreamt. It was Arizona. I think I ran in the in the Len many Kravitz through the... Oh,

shit! Hey, what's up, man? Looking like... Don't you got a game? Oh, yeah, that shit over. In the locker room, hey. Called my mama and called the family. Hey, come on. We back to the spot all right go in there get

dressed go shower get dressed and as i'm coming out now you see everybody else coming in i mean i'll let y'all when you get back to what why why didn't they give you that ball why did daryl bevel call a pass play why did pete carroll not overrule him what happened did they not want you to get that mvp man i have no idea and from the the understanding i got is nobody taking accountability for neither one of them. They put it off on each other so I don't know

what the fuck they are going with. Hold up. Russ put it off on Pete Pete put it off on Russ or was it coordinator to head coach? Nah,

coordinator and head coach they pass it back to each other from that's when they talk it to me so I don't know how I play

but at the end of the day yeah that shit was you know that shit was painful because you got to think like no matter what, in any sport you play, what you do, especially now running back, saying, okay, when you a little jit, you set up, you know, pillow here, pillow here, chair here, maybe a lamppost here, Like, okay. And then you start going. It's the end of the game.

One more play. The quarterback hand the ball off to Marshawn. He jump in the end zone, touchdown. Oh, the Oakland Raiders win the Super Bowl. I'm a Raiders fan. I'm from Oakland, California. So, you know, you put it together. You put that play together so many times.

You play that. You play that so many times. You play that. You play that so many times. So not only did they take a, you know, they took a moment away from you. They took a moment. They took a dream. Wow. I mean, I guess I say that's once in a lifetime situation. Have you gotten over it? To be honest with you, now that, you know, we at 10 years, we had a 10-year reunion for the Super Bowl and just thinking like, damn, we could have been doing this again next year. Next year.

And there's no telling, like, you know, you took a dream away. You took a moment away. You arguably take a dynasty away. You know what I mean? Because then you in position to, hey, we win two Super Bowls. Maybe I don't want to be the highest paid corner or the highest paid safety or the highest paid receiver. No, spread that cheese through the whole team so we can bring everybody back

and we can go try to do three, maybe four. Let's see what we can bring everybody back and we could go try to do three, maybe four. Let's see what we can get out of it. So, I mean, you know, not only do you, you know, you take away all that shit, but, you know, you put us in the history books as the dumbest call in football history. And then, I mean, you know, for my situation on the other end of it, you know what I mean, it's going to be an everlasting question that I'm going to get. Why they ain't give you the ball? Is that the question that you get asked the most?

When people meet Marshawn Lynch and everybody knows who you are, is that the first question out of, they're like, hey, how you doing, Marshawn? Man, why they ain't give you that ball? Hell no, it ain't no, hey, Marshawn, how you doing? It's, hey, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Hey, you Marshawn Lynch. You look just like Marshawn. Man, why didn't they give you that ball? Hell no. It ain't no, hey, Marshawn, how you doing? It's, hey, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Hey, was you Marshawn Lynch? You look just like Marshawn Lynch. Like, nah, I ain't Marshawn Lynch. Oh, my bad. I didn't

mean to ask you that. I thought you was Marshawn Lynch. Because I was going to say, man, if you was Marshawn Lynch, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Nah, I'm Marshawn. Man, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Oh, shit. Fuck, I don't know, man. Shit, I wish I did know. I wish I could get the truthful answer behind that.

But is there any answer he could give you now to satisfy you? I mean, at this point, I wouldn't know. Now that it's been so much time in between it probably wouldn't even matter because you know everything i've heard all the everybody says well they didn't want beast mode to be the mvp pete wanted it to be russell the nfl wanted it to be russ whatever the case may be but it doesn't make sense i mean till i played the game for a long time it doesn't make sense to me i got 235 pounds sledgehammer back there and i'm gonna throw a pass on the one yard line yeah it just don't make sense you almost scored on the play before you ran it down to the one

you damn right yeah i mean so i realistically like man when i when i think about it i'm in a position to where you feel me i don't don't get upset or frustrated with it. But more so curious, because then you got all the possibilities. Did they not want you to be the Super Bowl MVP? Because if you're the Super Bowl MVP, then you're the face of the NFL. They don't want that to be the case or whatever. And when they have special occasions, they bring all Super Bowl winners back. And they out there.

Let me ask you this. How long did it take you to get over not getting the ball? You know what? Realistically, it was immediately. Because the thing is, if you go and ask anybody to ever play with me they'll tell you like he really like play for the team type right so it was a part of me who wanted to be selfish like give me the ball type but at the end of the day knowing the work that all these individuals put in i mean if lock catch that ball that's my my nigga. So you feel me right? I'm happy for him

But in the grand scheme of just football that shit don't make no sense Right, but as far as you know, I mean cuz I never come intentionally be no hater towards nobody but just Certain shit makes sense and certain shit. Don't that just don't make no sense. It's not a good football. It's not a football decision. It's not a good football IQ. Now that I'm thinking about it. It's not.

Was that the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks? Most definitely. And they're suffering still to this day. I had a podcast at the time called Milding Off, and I went on that Monday, and I said, they'll never be the same.

I said, they won't look at Pete the same. I said, they realize what, because a lot of teams win one in a row. To be special, you win back-to-back Super Bowls because there have been so few that have done it. I said, they will never believe in Pete the same way again. And it's like, you know

what I mean? Like when a dope thing get that first high, they gonna chase that motherfucker. You search for that. Call it chasing the drag. Chase that motherfucker. And now you got a situation where I believe, where you look at it like, that motherfucker is almost like he's trying

to chase and rebuild that team that he had rather than moving forward and letting the guys that he got be the guys yeah you're not gonna do that you're not gonna get a sherm I mean you got a sherm you got a rookie sherm and the Earl Thomas and a cam chancellor and you know you got B-Wags, and you got KJ, and you got Bennett, and you got Averill, and you got Red. I mean, bro, you're not going to recreate that. You're not. But as long as you chasing that and you're not building these individuals to be the greatest player that they can be, you're going to keep on repeating history.

Because he got some guys who I believe can play. Right. But if you got in your mind that you want your guy to be a Michael Bennett or you got your guy and you want him to be a Marshawn or, like, no, you can't do that. But the thing is, if you go in and groom that guy to be the best him, then it'll probably give yourself a better chance. You feel me? Cause they got some dudes over there who I really,

I mean, I like, I mean, but as long as in their mindset, they trying to get them to, to be the goddamn 2013 Seahawks. What was your, what was your relationship with Pete like?

And are there any similarities between john gruden pete carroll but what was your relationship like with pete my relationship with pete was was uh interesting because i mean the thing is like i like pete as a coach because he get motherfuckers ready to go yeah that's the truth yeah you feel me and he the same way every day but there was just certain things about Pete like you know I mean he was like yeah and I'll I mean like for me I don't I don't need that right to get going that's why I said he's like a high school coach on Yeah We play Sunday. Oh, we got two we got Thursday night game Okay, let me know when the game is and I'm gonna be ready all the extra shit Oh, I don't need it. Right? I don't need all of that to get ready to get to go

but a lot of guys can feed into that and I seen it and it worked right so you feel me I never like I seen it and it worked. So you feel me? I'll never like never go against the grain like, oh, fuck him and this, that and the third. Because no, he's a great motivator and get motherfuckers ready. But it was just that I didn't need that. And I don't think he understood like where I was coming from, that I don't need to be ha ha ha and who who who and all that in order to be ready.

And, you know, I believe he wanted me to be a part of that type of environment but that just wasn't my speed so that kind of got us to you know i mean headbutting a little bit for the misunderstanding but the thing was i always told him like man i ain't gonna never go against the ground i ain't gonna never tell nobody not to you know i mean listen to what you got going on but that shit just not for me so I mean if you're gonna be having meetings or whatever you know I mean we came to an understanding if we having a meeting and you not telling me specifically like Marshawn on this play we need you to do x y and z then you know I'm probably not gonna come to that meeting because I you know I know what you gonna be in there doing you'll be in here high high busting

jokes and doing all the funny shit and then yeah I mean I'm ready to play football so when it comes down to that then let me know once we got that understanding you cool yeah me and I'm um will had a run in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't find out that for 15 years because he never told me that. See, he came into the he came into the trailer and I was sitting down. Right. He's standing over me like this. And he's like, I appreciate that, man.

I appreciate that. I'm like, well, what appreciate that, man. I don't appreciate that. And I'm like, well, what you talking about? I always know to play it off. Right. You know what I mean? It's tone. Well, I'm sitting down. Hold on.

This was 15 years later? No, this was then. Then I didn't find out why. OK. I was asking him why then, but he wouldn't say nothing. Right. And I'm going, what's going on, man? Tell me what's happening, man.

And since he was standing and I was sitting, I was a night right right and I'm going what's going on man tell me what's happening man And since he was standing yeah, and I was sitting a real nice fella That's about physics right right so I'm like you know man what's going on man? I mean hey man He's like I don't appreciate that you know saying and Jade is going well well I'm saying, but I mean what's happening man now you tell me what's happening hmm. Hmm You know what a dude does is but you bite his bottom lip anybody do something saying, but I mean, what's happening, man? Now you tell me what's happening. Hmm. Hmm. You don't want to do this. But he bought his bottom lip. He about to do something bad. He might do something right. So I'm like, you know, I did the, I did the whole, you remember the snake? I did the snake. Well, well, what, you know, and got up. And then

I was like, you know, so what are you talking about, man? And I was still in that posture. So you didn't really know what he was actually talking about. I didn't, but I know what he was doing. Right. So I was like, come on, man. I mean, what's up? Just tell me what's up. Right.

Yeah, yeah, you know what's up. You know what's up. So finally I just said, this is a small place and people are here. We should talk about it. Right. Me and you outside because it looks like you're going to need to get something off your chest. Right. And the jader was like, oh, no, no, no. No, no, y'all. No, right? And the jader was like, oh no, no, no

No, no, y'all. No, y'all and I was like, what do you mean? Nah, y'all tell him Tell him And that was the end of that. Right you see right and I never knew It wasn't until my book came out right years later, right? where I counted that as one of the things that really Bothered me and hurt me right bad because i didn't know when i look up to him and i love him to death so you really didn't know why he was upset you had no earthly idea no that it was because of an on-screen kiss or

attempt to kiss or what was going on no you know but I didn't know why when I was taking the subway up with my cousin uptown to the Bronx, I didn't know why when we were 14 and why these 19, 18, 20-year-olders on the other side of the train are looking at us going, what? Hmm? What? We'll bust your ass. What? I didn't know that neither.

Right. But I still was like, huh? Right. You know, waiting for that damn So yeah, so 15 years later. How did you find out? This is how I found out I Put it in the book You know and I found out about literature. You can't put something in a book about somebody You're right unless they sign off on it, right?

Right, so I was like, uh You know, and I want to put stuff like that in a book anyway. Right. But I was trying to be real honest about my experiences so I could show that you can go through anything and still be successful. Right. And still be a good person. Right.

You know what I mean? And I was able to do that, but it's not easy. Right. You know? But you can do it. Right. So I went to his best friend, Charlie Mack. You know Charlie Mack?

I remember the song Charlie Mack Everywhere we go downtown To a show we have Two necessities Charlie Mack and the limo Right Well that's like Charlie Mack

You're going to see him At every game If it's the Super Bowl If it's the Kentucky Derby You're going to see Charlie Mack And that's Will's best friend Right So I called Charlie

And I said Charlie What you think about this? He said yeah yeah yeah You know You know Will Will we'll we'll cool. Cool. Just give me a quote. I'll send it to him. And they'll call you. They'll call you, Tom. I send it to him. Call me. Him and Jada. They say, yeah, go ahead and put that. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Go ahead and put that. And what I put was that I thought in the book, I thought the only thing that could be possible was the producers came to my trailer

right when we were on the last scene, and it's a kissing scene right and they said the kissing scenes now not later on tonight we got to do that now and i said but i haven't rehearsed with jada that's the most important rehearsal that you can ever have right you put your lips on a female right on screen right and so and i was like we never got a chance to work that out you can make it look real if she's working with you and everything right without kissing right right and so I said I can't do That I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it. They said well. We'll ask her so it went and came back She said just go for it

And even then I was like I ain't just gonna go for it You know, but I know I have to make it look real right so I'm trying to make it look real And she's kind of uncomfortable about right you know but but we got through it and you never could tell right that's all I wanted right right was was to get it to play into the film right that's all we want right you know you at te one wrong block right right I mean y'all you know it ain't like the receivers out here all the glory right all is blocking right you know what I mean so you got to do it right right so I got it in there and so they called me and said hey that is what happened Wow yeah and I didn't find out for that long it was more than 15 years I was about

back in 2000 right so it's more than that long right so I had saw that side you know and there's nothing you can do in certain circumstances as far as i'm concerned right the way that i um grew up and saw things right you know i made a a good observation after trial by ass whipping right right Right. When emotions is high, common sense is at all time low. Yeah. Common sense is at all time low. And how low can you go? Right. You see what I mean? Yes. So knowing that fact and just sticking on to what I learned when I was a little kid. You know, my my my my brother and sister being white and me being black wasn't a big deal to me until I found out I was black. I grew up in Fort Collins, Colorado and Wyoming.

Okay. Found in the trash. Yeah. Took it straight out there. And I thought I was a brown one of whatever we were because I saw litters. Right. So a black cat can have a white one, a brown one, a speck of one. I thought we were born like that.

Right. And I'm a brown one of whatever we are. Right. Well, when we got to D.C., King had I thought we were born like that. Right. And I'm a brown one of whatever we are. Right. Well, we got to D.C. King had just got shot. There were riots. Right. And the black kids the next day were whipping our ass all day.

And they were saying, get the white cracker and get the white cracker lover. This is the things I learned. Right. You know, and I was going, this is stupid. So I went to my mother. I said, why are they attacking me, seeing I like white crackers? I like graham crackers. Graham crackers, you don't got to have water with them or nothing.

You just chew them, get you the apple juice, and you're good. White cracker, you'd be like Schwarzenegger in total recall. You know? So I found that out. And then that's the first time i heard the word nigga you know okay because we moved to the suburbs then it was like kill the nigga and i'm five i'm riding my bike a whole truck of white boys barely getting in the door people throwing stuff through the window right nigga this nigga that so i went to my mom and i said who are these niggas we got to

stay away from you know you're talking about you yeah yeah and um she told me she said um it's one of her speeches right she told me hey that's what people our color call people your color when they don't like them so what color are you she said we're white i said no you're beige because i learned my colors from the crayons right she said no but that's what we call ourselves and i said well what does nigga mean she said well that's what that's what i mean what is what is white cracker mean she said um that's what your your people call our people when they don't like them i said well what color are they she said they're black i said they're not they're brown right i'm a brown one and like that's that's that's where my my my whole uh as a child

that messed me up for a long time right because i couldn't believe that i was divided by my loved ones by the color right and i always thought that that was stupid. But it's real. You know, it's real. It's not really real. Cause I am right about the litters. And I am right about us. Because when we were in different civilizations

in different colors, anytime we would come up on another civilization that was a different color, the girls would go, those guys look pretty hot. And the guys would go, them girls look pretty hot. And thusly we start mixing. It is the same thing right you see what i'm saying right take a dna strand right you'll know right that wasn't because we exchanged dna's right all right you know that's more like d and p's right right you just skip i'm i know but i'm just i'm talking to him right no i better stop i'm good so but that but

that was was the the catalyst and i think i found my purpose in all that right you know and that's why i feel comfortable um saying i'm her greatest accomplishment because i believe i was right i think she did that on purpose right you caught a lot of criticism. Steph wins his fourth ring. He's finals MVP finally. He's a two-time MVP. He's regarded as the greatest shooter ever. And you said, after winning this fourth ring and winning the finals MVP, that he solidifies himself as the greatest point guard.

And you said that, stone-faced as if Magic Johnson didn't exist, is not still here. You know what happened? I went and watched Winning Time on HBO Max. And I watched It's Magic on Apple TV. Yeah. So I knew about Magic. And I revered Magic. Sometimes we revere guys.

And it works both ways. Sometimes we look too much into a guy or we don't look enough into a guy. So you can get both ways where a guy will. And I don't want to mess up my words, but I got to see Magic's weaknesses. Yeah. Where I could never see him before. Right. And now I'm watching every little close thing and I'm like, oh, okay.

Now I'm seeing his weaknesses. And I started watching on Olympic Channel, the 92 Olympics. Yes. You know what I mean? So I'm really watching everything. I'm looking for God's weaknesses Olympics. Yes. You know what I mean? So I'm really watching everything. I'm looking for guys' weaknesses now. Right. You know what I mean?

So just watching that in depth. And when you're in the finals, you're looking for anything to get away from the finals. So I was really throwing myself and immersed into Magic. So being able to break down his game from that. And then always, oh, I know Steph's weaknesses. You know, I'm with him every day. So just matching up things, everything

everybody's been saying about him. the team's magic had with him the team steph had with him like magic had i think higher a higher level of talent three three the top three players no matter how you slice and and i think magic had a guy who's never he's gotten credit for how good he was but i don't think people know how good james worthy was oh yeah yeah james worthy would be a great player in any and every era oh yeah which is rare yeah you know you know what in football where certain guys that their games don't translate right magic had a few guys who games would translate right you know i think cooper's game would translate especially three and three yes you know what i'm saying uh about uh b scott b scott

b scott game would translate because he was kind of a 3d guy as well know what I'm saying? Absolutely. You know, uh, uh, B Scott, B Scott game would translate. Cause he was kind of a three D guy as well. You know what I'm saying? Baladi D box was nice. Yeah. And this was early with him. Well, he was a, he was a big pass. He was a passing big man. Right. Which would be great right now. He'd be a poor man's joke as they would say, you know what I mean? So magic had really great talent around him. And then, you know, it's funny when they talk about Steph, they really like breaking down the weaknesses of the guys around him. You know, they always want to talk about what Draymond can't do. Right.

And they always forget about what he can do. And then Klay, they always try to call him one-dimensional. He's always been a great two-way player. Plus, he just had two injuries. Yeah, yeah. And you just said it. You know, Wiggs coming in because they tried to say it was KD. Then Wiggs coming in, Steph still do it.

Then you got a young player in Poole. You know, he was regarded as the worst draft in the draft. Right. said that yes the worst pick thus far in the draft and steph got this guy out here he about to get 100 million so i think for you know i always a fan of jason kidd he's one of my favorite point guards he always got his guys the max contract so it ain't all the way about your number but the guys what they can do around you steph's done everything you can imagine think of in terms of basketball, whether he's got the stats for himself, he's got the

chips, and what he's done for his teammates, and on top of Magic did it with the Lakers in terms of the evaluation the Lakers had when he got in. Look at the evaluation of the Warriors when they bought the team with Steph versus right now.

It's just astronomical. So, you know, everybody wants to try to put different parameters on what makes you great. Well, he's checked off every box. Is Steph really a point guard considering that Draymond really runs the offense or is he a two masquerading as a point? Because I think there are a lot of twos. I think Dame Lillard.

I think Ja. I think all these guys. Iggy, they're really twos. Okay, I like that. They're really twos masquerading. So, this is going to sound off, but it's not. But Draymond's so smart, he just knows where to throw the ball because he knows them two killers are going to catch it and pick it up.

So, I don't think his assists are inflated because most guys don't know where they like the ball, don't know how to get it to them, when to get it to them. Yes. When to get it to them. Yes. What play to call. But, you know, Draymond is like the point guard out there. Man, that dribble handoff that Draymond be doing. Where he run the other side and drop that thing off.

And then sometimes he'll, like, fake. He's going to hand it off and then go dunk it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he knows how to bounce it. He sees Steph coming. He'll bounce the ball. He knows Steph wanted a certain place. The way he can hit clay.

And they don't never have to break rhythm. That's an art. That comes from playing with someone for such a long period of time and knowing that person. But I will say that David Lee was an all-star. Steph was out there. So I do believe Steph has a great dynamic with his power forward.

And if you get a high IQ power forward, they're going to succeed. But when you get a power forward like Draymond, who's the high, probably the top IQ guy in NBA history, like he's in that top 1%, it's a deadly combination. Look, Steph, and this is what I say about athletes, they pretend I don't hear it, I don't care, I don't care. They do care.

And they do hear. And if they don't hear it, they got some homeboys that heard it. And if the homeboys don't hear i don't care i don't care they do care and they do hear and if they don't hear it they got some homeboys that heard it and if the homeboys didn't hear it they got family members that heard it but somehow it finds a way to get back and steph curry made it a point to be known i heard what y'all was saying don't think i didn't hear now because y'all said i got the other the first one okay y'all didn't want to give me no credit y'all talking about i played bad iggy got the mvp fine that's fine the next two i played unbelievable kat I got the other the first one. Okay. Y'all didn't want to give me no credit Y'all talk about I played bad and you got the MVP fine. That's fine. The next two I played unbelievable Katie got the MVP He deserved those MVP. Yeah, but y'all make it seem like I was like a role player. Yeah. Yeah. And so now No, Katie. I

Did this what y'all want to say now? What was he like behind the scene? Cuz I know he was gloating I mean he Steph see people love steady say he he, Steph, see, people love Steph. They say, he's so, look at him, little six-foot, six-two Steph. He's so cute and cuddly. And he thinking all the time, yeah, I told you, you know what. Draymond opened my eyes one day. And I hope I don't get Draymond in trouble. But Draymond was spot on.

Draymond watches closely. I'm watching closely. Another guy I'm watching closely people don't really pay attention to is Kevon Looney. Kevon, 26 years old, been in the league 12 years, it seems like. You know what I'm saying? But quiet is kept. Consistent-wise, Loone might have had a third best year for us.

Yeah. You know, Steph, Wiggs, and you know, Poo was nice, but he was a little inconsistent because he's young. But consistency, Loone was getting four points, 18 rebounds. Yeah. wigs and you know poo was nice but he was a little inconsistent because young but consistency loon was getting four points 18 rebounds yeah so but I'm just saying us three watching and Draymond said it one day he said Steph like that don't get it twisted Steph like that Steph like that attention but it's a competitor yeah competitors attention like oh yeah oh y'all y'all think it's a game huh yeah yeah I think it's sweet and we

always say like guys think stuff sweet and they get on the court and they're like man there's light skin dude i'm about to kill him and before they know it now all the guys in the league say the same thing like i didn't know he was that good but man i look up he had 30 and but now guys know it and then he getting the best of everybody every night. Yeah. You heard what you heard with my man from Westside Chicago said Patrick Beverly. I'm getting the right meal. I'm in bed by 930. I don't watch all the film. I got a big one tomorrow. I got to go get Steph Curry every night. Yeah, every night. And he keep he keep doing it. He been doing it. Yeah. And then this year before the injury, he we got off to in one start right so it wasn't like it was a fluke like oh we

about to really run it we about to really run through y'all so right him dick he's got that ego in him where he's he wants to all know like I'm really one of them dudes right 2010 World Championship was his coming out party and then to NBA Championships coming out of that is and then I played with him in the Olympics 2012 right I'm pretty much undefeated with Katie so but you believe Steph is open to a reunion with Kevin Durant I haven't had a conversation with Steph quite honestly you know I think he's in different place now we've been we just been enjoying winning the league I call

this money heist that show Netflix yeah what a. Where everybody in the world know, man, it's just eight people that just keep robbing us of everything. We see them coming. We know they about to come here and get it. And we can't stop. Right. That's how I summed up this year. We start off 18 and 1.

So y'all know we here. Y'all know this ain't no fluke. Right. And then we had a little slippage with some injuries. Then the playoffs start. And I'm like, and we looking like, oh, this sweet. We lock in. We going to come get another one.

Don't let us come get this one. Because y'all know what's going to happen if we come. Draymond going to beat Draymond. We come and get this one. Y'all don't like hearing Draymond. Yeah, yeah. Draymond say, you better not let me. But when you guys got, when Steph and them

got knocked out of the play in Memphis, he said, we had some injuries. He say, but y'all better get us now because y'all don't want to see us next year he foretold of what was to come yes and i think my first it's funny because my first uh when i signed with the warriors 2013 and uh you do the press conference you say what you're supposed to say pc i'm coming here to try to win a championship right nobody take you serious. But I'm saying to myself,

I think I've met the closest thing to Jesus Christ. Not to put that on him, but I've never seen an individual that doesn't stray away from who he is in terms of who he is as a person. So you know what you're getting night in, night out. And I can see it. And so I'm thinking I'm about to go try to win a championship. And then we win a couple, and then he comes out and I could see it. And so I'm thinking I'm about to go try to win a championship.

And then we win a couple and then he comes out and he says, yeah, I better get this now because we're coming back. I think I need to start taking stuff more serious when he's talking because I was just so used to him being a baby face killer. This nice kid. Right. You know, his faith is very strong. Uh huh. His faith is strong. That means he got that faith is real. So what he's saying, he really believing. And thus far, it's all come true. Before you play with him, did you realize how good Steph was? I mean, to watch it from a distance, you're like, damn, man, dude, making all these shots.

And then you get up close to him and you watch him in practice and you see the things that he does before he even stepped foot on the court. Did you realize Steph was this good? Like generational, like transcendent good. Yeah. So when I saw him when he was younger, I saw a deficiency. So I'm the type of basketball mind where I'm just looking for your flaws. Right. All right. What doesn't he do? And can he get better at what he doesn't do well? Like, can he get rid of those deficiencies? So early in Steph's career, Steph was thin.

He would get beat up. And his Achilles heel was European guards, like the Rubios, Navarro from Spain, who we played in the World Championships, Drogic scoring Drogic. So they were crafty and thin, and they're a little chippy, so they hit you below the belt a few times here and there, and they might throw you off. And his handle wasn't always this tight. Right. Steph's handle wasn't always tight. He'd get loose with the ball.

He'd always been loose with the ball with his turnovers. Right. And if you just watch Steph's progression, he's continued to get better. And that's the part people don't see. You know, they don't see us in the 5 AM working out, all the weights we pushing. You know, what's my man Harrison from the

Steelers yeah we seen him but he had been doing that you know he just get strong you're right Steph was the same way he just he just get like he had been working and building up right and he's been progression year in year out like this year Luna and I will be on the bench saying all right it's a tight game late in the fourth we need Steph to be like MJ we need them to start picking the game apart you know we don't need Steph to be like MJ. We need him to start picking the game apart. You know, we don't need Steph to shoot a half-court three or just pull up from three. We need to get to a middie.

We just need a bucket. And he started getting to it. Right. He started getting the paint up and under. You saw him flipping the ball. Like, he was getting, like, key buckets. And that was the thing, because early on is that, let's run him off the three.

Right. But he wanted to settle. Now Steph going off. Steph got a layup package. He got a float game. He's not afraid to go in there and mix it up with the big so now with the three the three ball dropping and with his float game. He's almost he's unguardable exactly and they all and you've never seen a six two guy six three guy a guy under six five dominate the game the way you know, we've never've never seen that. Nah. I mean, small guards. And when I talk about guards, I mean, Magic was different.

Magic was different. Magic was in the 50s and 60s. Even early 70s, Magic would have been a 4 or a 5, let alone a point guard. But you have to go back to AI to look at a guy undersized, dominate the game. And Steph just took it to a. But it's long. Because you see Isaiah, he's stocked in that long run. He just just took it to it. I mean, for this long.

Because you see young, you see Isaiah, Stockton had a long run. He just couldn't get over it. But he's, Stockton couldn't dominate the game offensively. Stockton was playing the pass. I'm just talking about guys who did it for this long. Like, AI had his run. But AI only played 12 years in the league, 11 years in the league. In his last few years, you know, he was bouncing around a little bit.

Isaiah had Achilles tear. His career really didn't last that long. So you don't, you rarely see guys at that size really do it right for this long and i'm today on a seven eight year run him draymond clay they really ran through the league they disrupted a lot of a lot of things for a lot of guys i think what happened what helped him is that early on he had the injuries he probably got that bug out of there and so now he's on he's on a stretch now where he's about to be healthy for a few more years. The kings of comedy. You said Bernie Mac, DL.

How did they put that together, Steve? How did you guys come together and say, okay, DL said Steve, Bernie. See, the first year it was just me, Bernie, and Sid. Okay. And that was rough, man. And this kid came up to his name, Walter Latham, 26 years old, and said, Hey, man, I want to create this thing called the Original Kings of Comedy, and I want y'all three to be it, and we only going to do basketball arenas.

We looked at him and said, We're going to do what, dog? He said, We're going to do basketball arenas. I said, Dog, we can't sell out no basketball arena. He said, no, I've been looking at Polestar. All y'all, all three of y'all can sell out 5,000 seats by yourself. He said, if I put y'all together, we're going to sell out basketball arenas multiple times. So we three of us was sitting there talking about it and we said, man, this dude crazy, man.

He can't do this right here. So he said, I got a sponsor, Royal Crown Royal. He said, we gonna guarantee y'all X amount a night. It was like quarter of a million. And we said, don't, were finna do what though? I looked at Seth, Seth, Seth. Look, let's just get the deposit. Get on out.

If it don't work, let's get the deposit. The kid paid us this deposit for the first night. And that's how we got started and it was rough man because uh it was just the three of us and the first night we did it was a disaster man it was for me. Great for Bernie and Ced because they went up first. say it went up first now the deal was to do 30 minutes right say it went out that deal 45 Bernie did 52 I don't know if you've ever followed Bernie Mac before it ain't what you want data on now burning and cussed out everybody in the crowd and he's hysterical.

They're stomping. The arena about to fall. And we're performing at this arena in Charlotte where the hockey players play. Yeah. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes.

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minute intermission what so you got said bernie 45 minute intermission these black people just sitting there on top of this ice with the little sheet of plywood between and they freezing then here i come now the disaster in that was my mama had died in December. Right. Our first performance was December 26th, the day after Christmas. But my mama had died that month. My comedy special had came out December 21st on HBO. Right.

I ain't even watch it. I was in a blur. My mama gone, man. It was like for two months, man, I thought I was going to die, y'all. I was in a blur. My mama gone, man. It was like, for two months, man, I thought I was going to die, y'all. I thought, I said, I ain't going to make it, man, because I had lost this girl, man. I was devastated. So my special came out right before the first night. I wasn't even thinking. So I'm out there. When I finally come on stage, they freezing. And now I'm doing the jokes from my special that I forgot had just came out.

And all my fans done heard these jokes. And I'm out there just, and they hollering out punchline. Do some new shit. You know, black people. Steve, we heard that. And I'm going, why is they saying this and I didn't even understand that my special had just came out right but I was so devastated so that night man I didn't do well at all right the next morning this comedian on the radio

asked him we driving to the airport Steve Harvey don't deserve to be no king. I don't know how he on the show. He wasn't shit. He on the radio just eating my ass a lot. And I'm hearing this going to the airport. Now, I just stayed up all night. I ain't had no sleep. Because I just had a horrible night. Now, I'm writing.

Because then I finally realized they was repeating my special. So, I'm writing all night. I ain't even go to bed. I stayed up. I sat on the plane writing. I got in Kansas City. I wrote all the way up to Showtime. I've been up all night, man,

getting old jokes, reworking them, putting them together. Came up with a whole new set. Next night, Kansas City. Now we arguing now. Me and the bros is arguing because I'm saying bros.

30, 30, 30. Right. 90 minutes. Y'all got to help me. 40, 48, 15 minute intermission. Here I come. That night I got a standing ovation. I had redeemed myself. Right. And so the first year was rough because I wanted to switch up sometimes. Right. You know, we all kings. Right. You wanted to maybe go first sometimes, go in the middle. Hey, man, let me sit in the rocking chair. Right. Let me be second.

Right. Bernie sat in the rocking chair. And I went, man, because you got Sid warming up, Bernie in the rocking chair. You closing behind these dudes is rough. So that's where we had our little. Is that where you and Bernie butted heads? That was our only odds. That was our only odds.

Because I just, man, y'all got to give me a chance to win, too. And they ain't never want to switch. So the whole year, we did that. And then we brought in Guy Torrey, and Guy Torrey hosted the show. Next year, he added DL. Now we got a problem. We can't have four acts because who going to go last now? So the argument was, Steve, you're going last again. I'm going hell no. No. No, man, we all getting the same check. Dog, I'm out here working. It's hard to follow follow now. I gotta follow DL said and Bernie. So Bernie by herself

Back back. Yeah, Mac was just he was of all of us man He was up that boy could put some pressure on you. So I said I Said I tell you what I do So then Walter said why one of y'all host the show ain't't nobody want to be the emcee. My hand shot straight up. I got it. I'm hosting. Because that, for me, was cool. I make it like it's my show.

I bring everybody out, lay it out like that. And then they switch up. Whenever we did St. Louis, say it with clothes. Whenever we did L.A., D.L. clothes. When we did Chicago, Bernie clothes. You know, everybody moved it around. And then we did L.A. D.L. clothes, when we did Chicago, Bernie clothes, you know, everybody moved it around. Right. And then we settled in and then the Kings was really born. Right. At that moment. But we toured for three years, man. Right. And nobody but black people heard of us.

That wasn't a white person in the crowd for three straight years. Wow. Never did an article. We just did black radio. We sold out the MCI Center four times, two weekends in a row, 64,000. We sold out the Georgia Georgia Dome, 44,000. We sold out the United Center six times. But we was walking through this country. Then a dude in USA Today, black dude, came and did an article on us. And that was it. We was making so much money after that, man, we couldn't. What happened? Why did it end? After the movie, man, that was probably... Blessing and a curse?

Yeah. The Four of Us. It was the largest comedy movie ever in history. It was the largest comedy tour in the history. But these white boys came along called Blue Collar Comedy Tour. It was Larry the Cable Guy, Jeff Foxworthy, Ron White, and Bill Engvall. And they said, we're going to show them kings who the real kings is. So they came out with the blue collar comedy tour. They couldn't fuck with us. They wasn't even close. They wasn't even, Polestar came out

kings was kicking they ass. We was filling up buildings man. And they thought like I don't think Fox was in that but Bill Engvall has said we're gonna show them what the Kings really look like right and they started selling tickets but they couldn't compete with us man the kings of comedy

was we was and plus we was that other kind of funny right we was tell your mouth out funny we right you get up out your chair your asshole still in this you know that type shit was happening right because when black people laugh mouth out funny. Right. You get up out your chair, your asshole still in the seat. You know, that type shit was happening. Right. Because when black people laugh, they get up and run to the back of the room.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah! But you can't get me. They slap you. Break shit off the concession stand. Take all the popcorn. They were,

the black people, they were letting us have it, man. And so when it ended, the thing that the Blue Collar Comedy Tour did was they stayed together us have it man. And so when it ended the thing that the blue-collar comedy tour did was they stayed together We split up You wish you would have stayed it kept it together could have kept it together couple we tried everything but You know dudes felt like there was movie stars. I never saw myself as movie star. I know I always know

I was gonna ask you that because you you kind of like stayed in your lane you see said branched off Bernie did movies you kind of stayed I mean you had you had a couple of roles but that didn't seem to be that didn't seem to be your passion that didn't seem to be where you wanted to go never read for a movie man didn't care nothing about it I was a TV star I want to be be on TV. So TV and radio was your bag. Right, because I could do this. Right. I could do this.

I could become household if I stay on TV. Right. You know, you got, hey man, to be famous in a movie, you know how long it take to be Denzel? Yeah. Yeah, that's. Denzel been in this a while. I remember him in Glory,

because they filmed Glory in Savannah, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. So that was like 85 86 he was a gangster though he just do you believed him yeah yeah I can only play me yeah see let me just do TV right why just do me I ain't what you see you Harvey I ain't been no acting class to do this here right I'm not fitting to care finish it up here care. I don't really like you. I can't cry. Cry with you.

We in the scene, I'm finna cry. I don't even know your ass. My father died. Well, okay. I don't know you or your daddy. So me trying to work these tears up probably ain't gonna happen. Just let me go be me. So I knew. But Bernie got a lot of rolesernie got a lot of roles

said got a lot of roles and uh they just wanted to do it man that was cool and i understood it so i just knew but the thing that they did though well they wouldn't got so many roles they stopped doing stand-up right me i felt so strongly about stand-up I never stopped right when I got my TV shows I still to it on the weekend right and I never went back to comedy clubs once I was in the marinas that's why I stay here so I just stayed in big theaters and arenas I was going to the Staples Center Nokia Madison right by myself take two people with me Radio City Music Hall I was selling I stayed right there while the guys was doing the movies

They got stepped away from they stepped away from this from from the craft You know, but but you walked away at the height of it Steve You walked away from the stand-up and and really hadn't come back Would you be willing what would it take Steve Harvey to do the crypto.coms? What would it take for you to do SoFi? What would it take, how much would it take for Steve Harvey to do

what they're doing on Netflix? You see everybody, you see Chappelle, Quake, all those guys have specials on Netflix. What would it take for Steve Harvey to give us 60 minutes? Well, first of all i have to be done with the tv career because once i do the special i'm gonna be done with my time oh man you cursed up a storm you killing everybody steve no they gonna they gonna take

me off tv it ain't no way the council culture too live see the reason I stopped was because I saw okay I got family few. I got little big shots I got all this stuff being offered to me at one point in time I had seven shows on TV all at once in one season Wow I had fun to dome little big shots amazing grace celebrity family feud family feud I I had Thunderdome, Little Big Shots, Amazing Grace, Celebrity Family Feud, Family Feud. I had two other shows. Showtime and DePaulo had came back on Fox.

I worked seven days a week, man. I went through a 41-week period with seven days of taping. And I knew that if I performed as a stand-up, that whole TV career would crumble. Everything would go. And I was making enough to really solidify myself in television. So in 2012, I had to walk away, because I was at the height of everything.

I had everything going for me. So now, man, then I watched Chappelle and Rock and all these boys get 60 million here and all this here. I thought about it, couldn't I couldn't dump what I had right right because I knew the longevity I was gonna make it up yeah anyway so like today man I've been this is for probably been the first year I've been thinking about it just doing one more and I'll probably have to call it something like fucking I'm out or something like that because I

know that's gonna be it it's gonna be career-ending right because what I really want to say I'm not gonna do a special unless I could say what I really want to say right I want to be like rock and have selective outrage right you know I want to be like Chappelle and really say something but what I really want to say. Right. I want to be like Rock and have selective outrage. Right. You know, I want to be like Chappelle and really say something. But what I really got in my heart to say, if I say it,

my career is over. You made a joke about your exit from Jackson State was kind of like your marriages. I did? Because I don't remember. You did.

What did I say? You said, you was like, you said something like, I don't remember exactly. I don't think, I think they were probably upset that y'all were getting divorced. Kind of like Jackson State was upset that you were leaving. I don't know.

Maybe they were happy you were leaving. Jackson State clearly wasn't happy that you were leaving. You brought Brittany Renner in to talk to your players. What were you trying to accomplish by bringing her in, this social media influencer? Brittany is a real woman. Okay. She keeps it 100. She keeps it straightforward.

And she is a tremendous influencer on Instagram. Bringing her in to talk about game. Right. from a woman's point of view was unbelievable. Had I had Brittany Renner in a meeting when I was in college, I might be about $15 million more. Richer. Because she broke it down to these guys her game and what she was trying to accomplish and not just just the women just just and she even told him i got more the coldest line she said i got more checks in my dms than nike i said wow wow that mean they at her? Yes. Okay, and she's trying to tell them how this has played out. She say, it's women out there that do their homework.

They know everything about y'all because you tell on yourself on the gram and on social. So they know how to go get you. And you thinking you conquering it and you ain't because it's all a plan. You think you running game and they running game on you. She was unbelievable. And I'm hoping, and I know, a few guys learned tremendously from her speech. She brought us, she opened a lot of eyes. When you sit down with guys, and obviously they want to know about the game,

the football game. But what advice do you give young players when you're talking to guys? I mean, now you're a coach and it's going to be a little bit harder for you to get out. But everybody would always, you know, ask you questions. Coach, time, prime. What advice do you give these young guys? What advice did you give them? In what regards?

Because we're talking about a whole plethora of things, I could say. How to approach the game. The game of football first of all you got to love it you you you really got to love it and some people didn't like with it love the game or love the pay because i think sometimes sometimes they love the payboard that's what i'm saying so the thing about it the game gonna give you what you give it right Right. And when you're not giving it a nut, it ain't going to give you nothing. And you can't prostitute the game. You can't just seduce it and act as if it's going to produce a child for you. It's not going to do that. The game is sophisticated, man. And the game has game. The game understands what you put in. You're going to get out.

The game understands that there has to be affection and attention and consideration for it, for it to give you the results that you want. This game is real. And you can't just love this game just for this amount of time. It's like a woman. You got to love her intensely. You got to take her home with you. You got to take her home with you you got to take her out with you you got to just shower her with gifts and and focus because she needs it and she wants it and she gonna bless you and make you feel good in all the right ways but you're gonna have to do what hadn't been done right for this game What about life? What advice do you give the guys about the game of life? The game of life has the scoreboard, unfortunately. And it's measured by oftentimes what you have on, your shoes, your clothes, where you live.

And that's not right. But it does have a scoreboard. But since it has a scoreboard, you don't have to worry about keeping score that way but how do you play to win because anybody that keeps score i got to play to win some fool said want to it don't matter if you want to lose how you play the game i said yeah if it ain't got no scoreboard right we go long for a reason as long as it's a score i gotta win yeah so it does matter if you win or lose um but i want these guys to always focus on winning and dominate and you can but it also has to be a plan man i'm a planner man we don't do anything without making plans no we don't do

anything with not being on time right yeah so life lessons are deep it depends on the situation because i can really go into depth and detail because I got 115 young men as well as trainers and equipment persons that I got to pour into. Because they're part of my staff. They hang on you every word. And I want them to. And I got to be filled. I can't be empty because when I'm empty, I don't have nothing to give. So I got to keep myself full and I can't have distractions and and dissension and mess I can't have ignorance and none of that so I don't let the family bulljunk get involved. I don't do that Right. I don't know how people do that. I don't do that

They my family know I quickest way to exit my life is to bring me some bulljunk or some drunk Friends as well. I don't I don't do it. I'm too old and too bold for that I don't play it of all the sports that you play football basketball track and field baseball. What was the easiest sport for you? He's what was football What was the hardest? Baseball you told me the hardest thing to do is hit that ball man That ball does some things Any sport that you could fail seven out of ten times and become great and make two, three hundred million dollars in it, that's a hard sport.

What made you want to decide to stick with baseball, even though you had this great football career? The challenge, man. I love challenges. And I could not master it. And it frustrated me because I hate to lose. And I hate not mastering something that I know if I just had more time I could the speed they tell the story that you weren't supposed to run the 40 at the combine no I was supposed

to use for the run yeah but you but you was teasing that you might not run okay but you sure everybody else had got there early. Everybody else stretched and ready to go. You come up with your tracksuit on. You come with your little outfit on. No stretching, no warming up, get on the line. It's in my office on the back of my wall. A cheetah never stretched before he go get his prey.

You just think I'm running? You remember Wild Kingdom? Yeah, I remember. When have you seen a cheetah stretch before he go get the antelope? So what were you anticipating? You was like, man, if I don't stretch, I can run this. What stretch before you go get there? So what were you anticipating you like man if I don't stretch I could run this what time would you actually anticipate or two? Four to four to something low for tools. So if you had stretch How do you say if because that's what I can't touch my toes now

I saw I never been a stretch ain't never been flexible and you just took off Got it right one time and did you know ran twice? I ran twice. I believe no you didn't I ain't never been a stretcher. I ain't never been flexible. And you just took off? You ran one time and did... No, I ran twice. I ran twice. I believe. No, you didn't. I don't know. You should have been there, matter of fact. No, I came the next year. Okay. I thought we was the same year. No, you was 89, I was 90. Okay.

Alright. So, now they tell you about the interview process. You know, you go in, you meet with the coaches. Hey, how you doing? A lot of different teams. Hey, how you doing? They sit down and talk to you. You say you went about the interview process. You know, you go in, you meet with the coaches, hey, how you doing? A lot of different teams. Hey, how you doing? They sit down and talk to you. You say you went to the Giants.

Mm-hmm. And you say, hold on, when did you guys pick? First of all, first of all, it was open house. Right. I don't know how it was when you went, but it was open house. There's agents everywhere. Yes. Girls everywhere.

People in the hallways. It wasn't secluded like it is now. Right. So I'm trying to get away from people. And I back into this room. Right. And I see all these dudes with their heads down like they get ready to take the SAT. So I'm like, what is this? And a dude handed me a phone book, man. I mean, that thing was thicker than a phone book. And I said, hold on. What pick y'all got? He said, I think we have the tenth. I said, man, I'd be gone by then.

And I just walked right out. And I was being dead serious. I wasn't even trying to joke, but it was a phone book. Right. Was that the one to lick test? Some test that the Giants gave you. Why do they do that? What is that test going to do about a game on the field?

Me writing something down ain't got nothing to do with what you're about a game on the field? Me writing something down ain't got nothing to do with what you're gonna do on the field. So you're like, I'm good. I'm good. No, I'm great. I'm not good, I'm great. Did you want... I mean, you said if Detroit would have selected you, they're gonna have to put you on layaway. Where did you want...

Where was the idea... Where did you want to go? I was on an All-American trip going into my senior year. And we went to Atlanta. Yeah, baby. I got off the airport, I got off the plane, I'm sorry, from Tallahassee. And I'm, I seen black folks.

I got in the car to go to the hotel, I seen black folks. We had a function that we were going to the hospital to volunteer help. I seen black folks. I got in the car to go to the hotel. I seen black folks. We had a function that we were going to the hospital to volunteer help. I seen black doctors, black nurses. Got back in the car. So we riding through town. I see black folks in Mercedes and BMWs and Lexuses and all that kind of stuff. I ain't never seen that before. It blew my mind, man.

Right. I said, wow, this is where I want to go. Because I was good and ignorant. Right. Neck full of gold, curl, look wet, but it was dry. You know? And I was flashy, flamboyant because I was straight Florida. I said, this is where I need to be.

Right. Because they're going to understand me. Yeah. And so that's when we told several teams, I'm playing baseball. Don't do it. Don't even do it. Don't even do it. Were you trying to scare them away?

Yes. Because I wanted to go to Atlanta to feel fit. And that's, I got my dream. And I thank God for Atlanta for drafting me. That was the best thing that ever happened to me. Obviously, you know, you love yourself some LeBron James. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know that's going to happen. He the GOAT. He the GOAT.

Say it with me. He the GOAT. I just got off the phone with MJ last night. Just a reminder. Just like the blast from me coming out of your mouth right now. It's okay. You can believe that. You can believe that. The man's still going to the Raw in 21.

But we'll do. I'm sure. You know what? The first LeBron topic.'s still going to be on 21. But we'll do. I'm sure. You know what? Right. The first LeBron topic. Right. Don't need to be nobody. Don't need to be nobody now. Here's what's going to hurt you. Here's what's going to hurt you.

Because you see, when you're talking like that, people are like, but, but, but. Nope. I'm going to sit back and let you talk. And then I'm going to say, you finished? Are you finished? You sure? No. And you're going to be like, nah.

And I'm going to say, you got to Are you sure? No. And you're going to be like, no. And I'm going to say, you got to wait now because I waited. Here I come. And you have to deal with the tsunami that I'm going to bring. I'm going to rain down upon you when it comes, especially to that subject. Especially to that subject. And that's what you're going to have to say. Listen, LeBron, listen, I got this man. The game was started in 1947.

I got LeBron James, the thousands of players that have played in the NBA. I got him number two all time. Yeah, yeah. You got people walking around like that's disrespect. It is. I got him. See, that's emotion. That's emotion right there.

Listen, let me tell you something right now. I personally believe a legitimate argument could be made that I'm sitting in front of the greatest tight end in the history of football. Some people bring in Gronk, Tony Gonzalez, Travis Kelce, of course. But you're in the conversation, you know what I'm saying? And you know because you're brethren. I mean mean they give you bad love and respect right i can say that but my point to you is is that if somebody said you weren't number one you don't feel insulted no so why you got to be insulted about because that's

emotion no that's my point that's emotion but they go huh see that's emotion you told me the storm was coming see your storm happened for nine years, then took two years off. And it happened for three years, and took another three years off. And then it kind of just was like drizzling. My storm been going for 21 years, Rainey. You could say that, and my retort to that would be six NBA Finals losses. So they'll fall off. It's bad.

Six Finals losses. Six Finals losses. Let me ask you a question. Six. I just want you to tell me one thing, and we're going so they'll fall off. Hold on, this is bad. In Fort DeGioia. Six final losses. Y'all, six final losses. Let me ask you a question. Six. I just want you to tell me one thing, and we're going to debate this. Sure. Tell me the team that he faced that was the 2017 or the 2018 Golden State Warriors. What do you mean?

I don't understand your question. Michael Jordan. Tell me the team. You talking about Michael Jordan? I want you to tell me the team that Michael Jordan faced that was the equivalent of the 17 and 18. No one. Can I respond to that? Sure. Can I tell you why? No the team that Michael Jordan faced that was the equivalent of the 17 and 18. No one. Can I respond to that?

Sure. Can I tell you why? No one. Do you know why? Because none of them had Jordan. No. That's exactly why. Okay, let me explain.

See, see, see. That's the ultimate equalizer or usurper. Pick whichever one you want to pick. Do you understand that Jordan is 6-0 in NBA Finals? Yes. Do you understand that Jordan was MVP all six NBA Finals? Yes. Do you understand that Jordan never even allowed a final series to go seven games? Yes. Do you understand that Jordan was MVP all six NBA Finals? Yes. Do you understand that Jordan never even allowed a final series to go seven games?

Yes. Do you understand that? He never went seven games. I also know he didn't start going to finals until that bird back went out. Excuse me. Ten-time NBA scoring champion, nine-time all-defensive first team. You do know that, right? Yeah.

So, in other words, is LeBron on both sides of the ball? Was he that dominant? Oh, he was dominant. You know he should have won. You know he should have won. Are you kidding me? Stephen A. Are you kidding me?

Stephen A, give me this. You know good and well LeBron James should have one defensive player of the year. How does Marc Gasol, who's a second team all defensive player, be defensive player of the year? I agree with that. I agree with that. I agree with that. But the flip side to it is that as we watched LeBron James,

even with his greatness at one point in time as a defensive player, we never looked at him and said, oh my God, that's that dude defensively. You had, you had, now LeBron is universally respected and revered.

MJ was feared. You know the difference. You know the difference. Because there are people who have feared you. You know the difference better than me. You know the difference between reverence and fear. Look, look. You know this.

You like John Wick. I like James Bond. He's all right. He's all right. Hold on. Can I have James Bond? I prefer James Bond. You can be John Wick.

I prefer James Bond. John Wick shot up the He's all right. Hold on. John Bond. Can I have James Bond? I prefer James Bond. You can be John Wick. Okay. I prefer James Bond. John Wick shot up the whole place, killed everybody. Okay. James Bond killed a few people but got the ladies. That's right. They do the same thing. That's right. Remember when Halle Berry was walking out the ocean and he said,

Magnificent view. Remember that? I remember that. The small room. And that was where, you know, that stuff is stuff like Pierce Brosnan. But, you know, Daniel Craig. Of course, Sean Connery, the man. Okay?

I mean, I'm trying to say the versatility of James Bond is where it comes in. The versatility of Go James. You could say that, but at the end of the day. You can guard one through five. You seen him do it. I'm not denying that. Shut down Tony Parker on one end. In the last five minutes, I got Timmy D.

I also saw him get checked when Jason Terry was guarding him in the post in his finals against Dallas. You going to deny that? No. Okay, then. Let me ask you a question. Has there ever been a time when Michael Jordan showed up in an NBA finals and you literally looked at him and said, Yo, he didn't show up. He didn't play nobody.

Come on. Let me ask you a question. I'm going to do it like this here. Sure. Tell me the guy that he faced that was the equivalent of Kevin Durant in an NBA final. Michael Jordan. Or Steph Curry. I wouldn't say the equivalent of Kevin Durant, but let's go down the list.

He beat Magic for his first title. Magic was 73. Okay. I'm going down the list. Okay. I'm going down the list. I didn't hear you say that when magic was here But we're talking about Feel you on that and by the way, he took Vlade Divac and okay, was it Kareem and worthy in them?

I got but you saw what he did to join in the first game, right? I'll put a triple-double on the head of plus got it pippin on it. That's cool. Okay, I go say he back Made it look like Kareem of the power Scottie Pippen on him. That's cool. Okay, I ain't going to say he backed him down. He made him look like Kareem of Caldwell Jones. Okay, go ahead. That's fair. Michael Jordan, I'm sorry, Magic Johnson in the first title. Clyde Drexler in the crew, the second title.

Charles Barkley, Kevin Johnson. Don't ignore that. Dan Marley in the third title. Okay, okay. Peyton, the glove, with Sean Kemp before he became Sean Kemp. That's one Hall of Famer. And then also you've got Karl Malone, John Stockton. Yes. And you have an NBA game

that was considerably tougher at that particular moment in time than today's NBA game is in terms of physicality and what's allowed. Yes. So you can appreciate this, Hall. Yes. You can appreciate that.

When you can put your forearm on people, when you can hand check them, when you can do a lot of things you can't do now. Right now, you get caught for passing gas. True. You will. It's a different game now. But here's the thing, Stephen.

Okay. What you and the old school guard have equated physicality with talent and skill. The guys in today's game are more skilled. I totally agree with that. I totally agree with that. But you would know this better than me because you were an all-world player even though the game of the nfl has evolved significantly you know good and damn well that if you were playing in this time oh yeah you would have adapted yes you played in that time you adapted the game in the 60s and 70s you would

have adapted to those times so what i'm trying to say to you is this michael jordan was what he needed to be if he was playing today he would be what he needed to be in order to be successful today that's all i'm trying to say when you see greatness on that level yeah you have to concede that that's the case but see all that michael do with the cook lebron had to cook he had toBron had to cook. He had to clean. He had to wait tables. He had to take orders. Well, you could say that, but what I'm saying is if the brother's doing it on both sides of the floor, then obviously he's doing more than one thing. He's doing that, too.

Why is he doing more than one thing? How many guys you know that are top five scorers and top five assists? How about this? How about when Shaquille O'Neal with Penny Hardaway, Nick Anderson, 3D, Dennis Scott and those boys. Yeah. Warren Orlando, right? Yeah. How about the fact that they couldn't even get the ball past half court because Scottie Pippen and Michael Jordan had him on lock and key?

Yeah. With Ron Harper. Full court press. We ain't never seen LeBron do that. We ain't never seen LeBron do that. LeBron do that. Stop it. He never did it.

You remember with DK? He never did it. You remember with D-Rose with the MVP? Y'all voted D. Rose MVP. What he do to D. Rose in the playoffs? Excuse me. Excuse me.

D. Rose. What kind of team did he have? You couldn't tell me Yo Kim Noah and those boys was a supporting cast. They did enough to get the number one seed and you didn't say nothing. So what? You voted him MVP. That's why I called him.

I voted him MVP and still picked Miami to win that series. I knew they weren't going to beat Miami in the best of seven. Playoffs are different. Yeah. All right? But that don't mean LeBron deserved the MVP. And oh, by the way, I don't even knock LeBron James for not getting the MVP. Because when you're that great, you're not going to put all your efforts in over 82 games.

You're playing for April, May, and June. So this is entirely plausible. I'm very fair to LeBron James. Your dollar back? Sometimes. Most times. Most times. Actually, I'd say all. It's just that I call it like I see it. I'm not emotional like you.

No, no, no. You're emotional. I saw you. I've been doing the hard work on you. Yeah, you know what? I got a call today from one Micah Jordan. He rolled up on me in a black SUV and rolled the window down. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. That was scary. I thought he was going to shoot.

I thought it was a drive-by. It was a damn drive-by. I thought it was a damn drive-by. It scared the living hell out of me. You know what I's true. That's true. Yeah. That was scary. I thought he was going to shoot. I thought it was a drive-by. It was a damn drive-by. It scared the living hell out of me. You understand what I mean? That's an absolutely true story. But at the end of the day, all I'm trying to say is that LeBron is phenomenal.

He's great. We should throw no shade on him. One of the greatest ever. Top three. Top three. I didn't see you saying one of them. First of all, he will never be greater

than Jordan to me. But more importantly, let's go to Kareem. 19-time All-Star. I'm back. Six-time league MVP. Champion on a high school level. That don't get Kareem his credit. Champion at UCLA.

You know that don't get Kareem his credit, though. Champion in the NBA. Six times. Good Lord have mercy. Six MVP. All-time leading scorer before LeBron surpassed him. All of that stuff happened. I'm just saying.

Come on now. The resume is better but I still don't believe he was the player that LeBron James is yeah all right but what I hold and I'll say this to you I'll tell you something that I very really said if you took LeBron James career from 2012 to now and that was his history from his first title to what he is now. And you wanted to make an argument against Jordan. I'm listening. The problem is we don't get to ignore those first seven or eight years where there were a couple of occasions where one, he was accused of quitting. And number. And I don't believe that. No, I don't believe that.

You know, I'm drunk. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about God still gave me. I got you. But I feel you. But but it's true but it's still accused of a drunken but the point is no no no against boston i don't believe that it was a lot of stuff going on with ron that's none of our business that people they were totally unfair to him including his damn teammates yeah but that's a different story for another day i never held that against them right but when you got four games against the dallas mavericks in which people looked at you and said choke if you say that you know what you cannot get past that i can't i can't i can't argue on that one i can't argue out of that and that to me that to me sealed the deal about the mj

lebron comparison what what what if he were to win a title this year? Don't matter to me. At 39 years of age. So? So? That don't erase Jordan. Well, see, there you go. See, that's the argument that people have

when I was talking about Tom Brady not playing well. I'm not trying to take away what Jordan's accomplished. I agree. He got those rings. He got six finals MVPs. He has six championships. He has five regular season MVPs. If LeBron gets another title, Stephen A, I'm not going to erase what Jordan did,

but he already here for me. Okay. All he's doing is just. But what I'm saying to you is I already talked about the Dallas thing. Yeah. And I talked about moments, which you can appreciate. What I'm trying to say to you is that when you are that dude right that doesn't happen to you often that happened to magic when they called them tragic because yeah 84 johnson 84 and all that we get all of that you understand

but for the most part that doesn't happen and this is the kind of thing that you also have to pay attention to as well not only do you not get to say that about jordan but when you look at lebron think about this you want me to tell you what i hold against him just as much as i held against the dallas before what the following year with the all-star game you got the ball in your hands it's an exhibition oh it's an exhibition it's not it doesn't count right it's all in fun right kobe claps his hand, God rest his soul. So come on with it. And he's like, yo, let's come on with it.

You got D-Wade on the court. You got Melo in the corner. Yeah. And he threw the pass. And all three of them, along with Kobe, descended on LeBron and said, yo, what's up? What you doing? Because they knew he was psyched out. He was messed up.

And what I'm saying to you is that Kobe wasn't like that. MJ wasn't like that. It's D-Wade wasn't like that in his first NBA finals appearance. They down 0-2 to Dallas. D-Wade goes berserk, averages 37 in the last four games. I'm just saying it's stuff like that. It's not that you look at LeBron and you diminish him. It's just that you can't elevate him above somebody like MJ. When I got that evidence to support my argument, that's all. And that's why I got a number two. God strike me down. I mean, my Lord, I mean, what an insult. I mean, the number two all time in the history of the game. And it's an insult. Only you and Rich Paul and people like that feel that way.

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