Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Blueface Part 2

Episode Date: December 24, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANNON and use code SHANNON and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Platinum-selling West Coast rapper Blueface sits down with Shannon Sharpe on Club Shay Shay for one of his most raw and revealing interviews yet. Known as a viral internet sensation, polarizing media figure, and household name. He begins by explaining why he recently quit smoking and drinking, detailing the withdrawals, his lowest moments, and what he hopes to accomplish as he enters the next chapter of his life at 28 years old. Blueface reflects on a viral moment crying with his son at an NBA game and breaks down the kind of father he wants to be to his three children, including controversial moments involving his daughter. Stating if he would let his daughter let him date someone like him.  The rapper addresses his face tattoos, including getting inked in prison, the pain, hygiene risks, and rumors of companies paying him for “skinvertising.” He shares whether he regrets any tattoos. Blueface dives deep into his childhood, relationship with his mother, public family conflicts, and the absence of his father. He reveals how football once looked like his future, earning a scholarship to Fayetteville State in North Carolina, then dropping out and living in Los Angeles and going over his first time with the law. The conversation turns to prison — why he went, how it felt like a break from responsibility, the classes he took, fights behind bars, celebrity treatment, refusing protective custody, and viral moments like the infamous A.I. prison split photo. He opens up about business, owning King of Crabs seafood restaurant, failed ventures, lawsuits, money mistakes, best investments, and whether he makes more from music or entrepreneurship. Blueface reflects on signing to Cash Money West, lessons from Birdman, being part of the XXL 2019 Freshman Class alongside Gunna, Megan Thee Stallion, DaBaby, and Roddy Ricch, and life-changing collaborations with Cardi B, Lil Baby, Offset, NLE Choppa, and Kevin Gates. From tour stories and cosigns from Drake and Kendrick Lamar to falling outs with fellow rappers, boxing beefs with Soulja Boy and Jake Paul, getting stabbed and robbed, dating drama with Chrisean Rock and other exes, and his struggle with internet fame.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Business versus rapping. The investment portfolio, your arm, you'll be able to, your business, your restaurants, or rapping. Where you make your money at? Or you go to these, you know? Yeah, rapping, of course. It's how I was like a stepping stool for me, you know, so I can't never forget about it.

That's how I'm able to do all the stuff that I'm able to do. So I still feed that, feed the market, but my heart's not in that, you know. It fives up to me, I'd be. You're a businessman, yeah. I'd be in the background. Nobody know me with a hundred million.

It's better that way, exactly. I can have more. Oh, Lord of mercy. That don't know about you, feel me? They know about you. No, but I know, but they don't got to be as out there, you know? Oh, oh, you don't want your business out there. Yeah, you know, if I could have the money without my business being out there,

I much take that, but I can't have it like that yet, you know? My business got to be out there. That's how the money come in. What do you learn about the music business? I've learned that you cannot. count any artists out. You know, when you think they're done, when you think it's over. It's never over. It's never over. You're truly underestimating the power of music and the power rap.

Anybody could do something very courageous, very sporadic, and drop a song with it, and they'll be back. So music has taught me not to write people off, you know? Right. Are you still signed the cash money? No. I'm not signed anyone right now. Right. But you were signed the casualty, right? Why did you sign there? I feel like they were the most understanding as far as my lifestyle.

Mm-hmm. So at the time, a lot of labels was calling and reaching out to me, but... Atlanta, you know, I went to Atlantic. I met the little vice president lady, you know, she just kind of asked me a question. She was like, are you a crypt? Like with a C, you know, like C, I mean with a T at the end. I ain't really know what she meant. I didn't really know what she meant, you know?

So I'm like, Cripp, what you mean? And then my homie was like, she's saying you a Crip. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah, I probably ain't going to be able to sign here. Like, I don't even, you know, I can't see me. Because I was doing all by myself. Right. In the beginning, I'm doing the bookings.

Right. You didn't have a manager. You didn't have a team or anything like that. I did all of this from the ground. So like I said, I like being the boss. Right. So I didn't even want to give my bossly duties away to someone. who wasn't even understand where I'm coming from right so cash money they

was some some niggins shit you know right so I signed with some because I could do niggins shit I could drop a song in night they didn't take it down you know you drop the white people they gonna take that shit right down what the Birdman teacher can worry about that business bird about that bread yeah not for sure Birdman taught me just um Kind of conduct yourself, you know, carry yourself. You can still be a street dude and move like a corporate person. Yeah.

That's probably the best thing I'll say. Double X 2019 freshman class, Gunna, Meg, Baby, Roddy Witch, Corday. You're part of that class, man. I mean... Yeah, that was a good class. Yeah. Are you in contact with it? Do you, you know, you're in contact with any of these people currently?

No, no. I mean, I've done music with a couple of them out after that. Right. But as far as today, no. I mean, that's nice class. You're the best rapper in that class? Of course, man. Damn.

Of course. Oh yeah, the baby, too. Yeah, he's going crazy too. Yeah, he's going crazy. It's a tie. Go on the last album, that thing here. Yeah, gonna be going crazy too. I ain't a lot.

I like his new sound and really wrong with it. I don't know, Blue. I mean, you know Meg. Yeah. I know Meg. Features, I mean, Cardi B, offset, Little Baby, Gunner, the Baby, N. Ellie Choppel, Kevin Gates. How was those experience?

So, let me ask you a question. How's all, when you want to do something with somebody, what you do, you get on, because you, you know, you don't like to turn your duties over to anybody else. You, you, the balls, do you like to handle that? So you just reach out on your own? So, no. I mean, I like being the boss, but if I give you the duty, I don't micromanage. Okay.

I let you do it until I think you're not doing good enough. Okay. And then I'll probably step in and start hitting people up. So, and a lot of those features was just my manager or the label, just networking. I never really went out for any of those. And then a lot of ones that came in was through management and network, you know? I wasn't trying to get on anybody some. So that's how that went.

How did that Cardi B feature change, change your, change your blue face? Yeah, that took me over that water, man. Yeah. That's when I overseas, start coming in, all the states, you know, New York and whatnot. You know, at first I was just like California, West Coast popping. And then Cardi just took me across the map. So that's probably what, you know, billboards and all the stuff, whatnot. So shout out to Cardi, man.

Have you talked to her since that time? I mean, he got a little bit. You got a baby, got another baby now? Well, not since that time, but after that, yeah, she brought me out a couple of shows, a couple arenas. She's dope. She always treated me, respect. And then you went on tour with Little Baby.

Yeah, yeah, so it started just going. Yeah. Just start going and going. So when it's going like that, did you, like, hoard the money? Like, it's really good right now. I'm going, hey, I'm out with Cardi. I'm out with Little Baby. Did you hoard the money?

Yeah, for sure. That's a part of the restaurant. That's a part of the restaurant. How that was got the cring of crab on? No, I was late in the beginning. I wouldn't know no investment. It was too good. I wasn't even thinking about anything. I wasn't even thinking about nothing, you feel me?

I'm buying jewelry, all type of shit, cars. At that time, I started buying houses, though. That was probably the best investment I made. I had two houses at one time. Let me ask you this. Given your current probation situation, You have to get clearance from your probation officer to, like, go state to state or go out the country? County to county.

County to county? County to lead a county. Yeah, it's bad. That's why I'm only doing, like, local stuff right now until, you know, they get a little bit more rapport with me. Yeah. They decide that they trust me more to leave. Right. Well, you know you can't make that big bread until you're able to go state to state country.

Tell me, I know. I'm just waiting, you know, probably the top of 2026. Right. You got coast out of me Drake, I mean you're out here in the West Coast So you know Kendrick No, I don't You don't?

Nope I thought all the West Coast raping I thought y'all knew each other Thought y'all were cool like that It should be I would shit You know You know everybody be

Lifing Some people be Doing their thing You know So it's hard for all of us to get together But It's nothing but a DM, phone call text message, you know

Right You cool with Drake? Yeah, Drake's cool He reached out to me early on Show me some love Right You get your beat Yep

Send me some beats Boy Wander beats and stuff Wow Yeah so it was cool Like you know Once it got lit Everybody was cool It's the

It's the aftermath Will let you know Like What's real and what's not Right When those features and whatnot Don't pull three It's like oh okay

Okay Now who we're on huh It was just for the moment Yeah All right Who would you like to collab with that you haven't work with? Oh, shit, Kendrick.

Oh, make that happen, Shannon. But I don't know nobody in the music business. Make that happen, Shannon. I might be able to get me a beat myself. Right, if you can make it happen. Better days, is that your best all time? Lyrically probably, yeah, lyrically. I mean, I can do that, you know, I can get lyrical, but it's not my style, you know, I'm fun.

I make music for a woman. So what you try, so where are you going with it? What you try to do now? Now, I'm just trying to go on another run and get out the way, you know? Now that I know the mind state of when I get the money and it's running, exactly what to do. Run it up, move on. Exactly. I ain't trying to be 30.

I'm out here trying to appeal to the young kids, you know. I'm trying to. Right, that's a year away. Exactly. So I only got a year left. So you're trying to run it up in the next 12? Yeah. Set up shop, man.

I just feel like once you get older, you can't be trying to appeal to the younger audience forever, you know? Right. Starts to take a toll on you growing. Why did you fall out with a little baby and Ellie Chopper offset? Remember we talked about it earlier, that conversation had sitting down having a conversation? Yeah. Shit, like I said, when it's hot, these ns is respectful, you know, when you lit, they know how to act.

Second, your shit, you know, which everyone does, even those people are at that moment right now when it gets rocky. You start acting funny. When you say acting funny, what? They didn't call, they didn't write, they need to no feature, they don't want to hop on it. They don't, they're no blueface anymore? They just step out their body.

So, for example, in the elite trouble, I don't know. help this man. I got him all his little shit going. He used to video chat me with girls. Like, look, I know Blueface. I used to be like, yeah, that's the bro, you know. You can't do that. And then two years later, when you feel like you, who are you who are, start just saying shit, like, oh, you hitting the girl and all this, and you just start, you know, just going with the trend. Did you see my interview with T. Payne? T. Payne say, when they take, nobody's your brother. They're only their brother as long as they can use you.

When you're hot, you can do them a solid. They're your brother. When you cannot, they're not your brother. Yeah, we're falling out then. That's how I am. As soon as I see that, we're falling up. Second, I... But you went in with the wrong idea.

You were asking them thought they were your brother. Bro. I mean, I didn't come in an industry, you know? Right. I just came into the industry. I wasn't already... So it's something you got to learn. You think fast food restaurants like you?

Or they like the money that you provide? That's different though No it's not Definitely is because if we get money together You better like me No Me and this fast food restaurant And get no money together

I'm giving them money But here's the thing That's what they're looking You can't give them no more money You see how they did that Yeah You ain't hot They're looking at you say

Well you can't break us no more money Yeah but that's not cool They weren't your brothers To begin with When you were hot They were your brothers That's still not cool what are you trying to convince me

no i ain't trying to convince you i'm trying to convince you you had the and i get it we've all been we've all been there man that's my brother we cool yada yada yada you're trying to say i'm taking it too personal yeah well but you learn though if you if you video calling me to get some that's a little too personal for me then yeah if you video calling me look i know blue face yeah yeah Bro, what you mean? But see, you had better times out. It would be better times.

No, you don't forget shit like that. You don't get to do that. You don't get to two years later. You got a cool song or whatever, whatever the case may be, and you just think like, oh. You thought y'all was really down, huh? Not even just down. At least down enough for you not to go against me.

Oh, okay. Socially. Yeah. Yeah. You can mind your business. Oh, okay. But if you feel like you spoke out. pocket yeah if you see my girl or you or see something online you don't you know you

don't comment yeah you don't step out your body oh oh so now so that's why you want to glove up so you want a glove up and soldier boy in le chopper i don't know about jake paul jake paul might be you know jake paul got real hand nick young yeah all of them you you try to get soldier boy to catch a fade nah soldier too small damn damn So it's too small Oh I think Jake Paul a little bit too big Man Jake Paul about 210, 215

About 220 I'm 210 I don't know if you really like that though Blueface I'm fresh out Man you see it Man I'm fresh out man Yeah but that's a whole different ball game

Exactly that take a different type of heart I ain't say that you I ain't say that you're afraid to get in the ring with him Now I don't believe Man. But I think that, I mean, I don't know your skill set like that? Come on, man. I'm like that, man.

Okay. Like, come on, Shannon. Can we start out with somebody like, before you, can you work your way up? I'm already two and no. I'm not asking a fight in my first fight. Shannon, I already been doing this in the arenas, London. But I'm saying, two fights? And you ready to step to Jake Paul?

I'm by the whip Nick Kent. Man, you know Jake Paul fights. You know, some of them don't be. Well, he getting ready to fight Anthony Joshua. Yeah, and we're going to see how that goes. And if anything happens other than what's exactly supposed to happen. Oh, you're going to say something, something ain't right? I ain't going to say nothing.

Are you going to watch the fight? Everybody else is going to say, I ain't going to watch the fight? Yeah, I support his fights. I think he's pretty good. He's gotten a hell of a lot better. You can actually consider him a boxer now Yeah And he's stepping up

I mean Anthony Joshua is a legit fighter He was a former heavyweight champion of the world Exactly He won an Olympic gold medal He can really he can fight No I agree I salute it Now we can see if

Jake can touch him Because you know He's chin a little suspect But he But if he touched Jake Paul Yeah What's gonna happen Or if he catch it, you know what's going to happen.

What's going to do? What's going to happen if he catch Jake Ford? If you're going to taste the canvas? Okay. But you don't think that's going to happen. What do you think is going to happen? Give us your prognostication on the fight. We got to the judges score a card.

How? It's preordained. Oh, Lord of mercy. It's the best way I can say it. It's preordained, man. NLEC chopper, NBA young boy, seemed to have a back and forth going on. What are your thoughts on that?

You were cool with NL.E. Chapa. I don't know if you know NBA. Yeah, yeah, I've spoken with Brawl before. I mean, I don't know. And at least been asking for it for a long time, so. You got beef with that man. What, because he put the phone up there, and he got some brawls because he knew you

and now you're feeling some type of way. No, the only reason I felt the type of way when he went online and started, you know, defending whoever I was dealing with at the time, you know? It's like, why would you do that? Oh, you're just trying to jump on a train, get a little buzz going. You don't got to do that, game. Right. But that's how NLE is. NLE is kind of like a clown to this shit, you know?

Okay. Whatever they say, do, be gay, be Muslim, be a vegetarian. vegan, he's gonna do it. Okay. He's going through a lot of phases, that's all. So he's growing up. But when he looks back, he's gonna realize, you know, a lot of these phases were.

Yeah, he had a real one. Yeah, and you know, young boy, he didn't already went through his phases, so it's like, mm-hmm. But as far as the beef goes, I don't know. I don't know which one's better. I don't even know what's the beef. to really speak on it. I just know in L.E.

So I can... You can speak on him. I know him. The real. Y'all need to get into a room and y'all need to hash your side. We can do that. Yeah, that's very easy

to have a conversation. I'll tell him to his face, bro, what the hell is wrong with you? Right. Why are you... You're upset at the fact that he commented on something that he shouldn't have...

Just put himself and... He interjected himself when he shouldn't have. He just picked the side. You know? Pick the side. type shit and you can't never choose the female now that's weird imagine imagine you and your girl getting into it right and i'm and i'm speaking up for your female oh yeah for you're right you're right you're gonna slap the you're yeah you're right when you're right you ain't wrong yeah man yeah you don't shut the fuck up while i'm talking to this no young lady yeah yeah young lady why do you rap was that why you guys have you have you have you have

beef. What causes it? There's enough women out here for everybody. The fans. The fans make these rappers feel like they got to do something. At certain times where they don't got to do nothing unless it play out and the situation is going to play out. But the fans, yeah, the fans are different right now. The fans are controlling everybody right now. So it's a little weird. It wasn't like that when I was doing my thing. So I ain't got hip to that. Not yet. Takashi, you know, was making fun of your tattoos.

You want to box him? Yeah, I would love to box him. But he just got a tattoo on his face. See how that works? But he's small. I mean, you keep talking. Yeah, but people want to see him in pain, you know, for what he done. Hey, what's up everybody?

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DJ talked me into Arronday Gadsden Jr. He had a monster game. A monster game. And you hear from the voices who actually build the game. GMs, coaches, and players who give you insight you won't get anywhere else. High standards and high care, that's the right combination. So whether you're studying tape or just love great football talk, subscribe to Move the Sticks on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hey, y'all, it's me, your man, M.G. Marcus Grant. And I'm Michael F. Lerreo. And I'm Lequon Jones. If you're looking to win your fantasy football league, you need to tune in to the NFL fantasy football podcast. It's right there in the name. Every week, Florio, LQ, and I bring you the latest news from around the league. We break down every matchup, give you our analysis and advice so you know who to start, sit, drop, and trade to bring that championship trophy home. I just want to remind everyone how good Rishie Rice was last season.

And these three healthy games, he was the wide receiver two in fantasy. I think Rishie Rysheh just goes off this week. The Chiefs come on a flip. past a rice. Near side, touchdown! Remandre Stevens is my sleeper this week. This is a match-out where I think I can slide in Stevenson into my flex position and he could deliver double-digit points this week.

Drake takes the snap, hands it off. Ramonari running it right and running into the end zone. Touchdown! It's never too late to turn your fantasy season around. Subscribe to the NFL fantasy football podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. You hear that? That's the sound of the group chat going off when your fantasy team scores another touchdown in the playoffs.

I'm J.J. Zachary-Eason, host of the Late Round Fantasy Football podcast. Every move matters this time of year, so tune in daily to help build a championship roster to beat your friends, your family, and that one co-worker who won't stop talking. Literally. Listen to Late Round Fantasy Football in the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Explain the mashup that occurs around the OK Corral. How in the world is it Doc Holliday's business? In episode 799 of the Meat Eater podcast, host Stephen Rinella talked with author and Old West historian Mark Lee Gardner. Whenever there was a posse formed, Doc Holliday was always there to help out.

So he's like, I'm sick, I'm half dead, I'd love to throw in. So he just gets excited when there's a posse. It's like your buddy drew a tag, you know. Listen to the Meat Eater podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For 25 years, I've explored what it means to heal, not just for myself, but alongside others. I'm Mike De La Rocha. This is Sacred Lessons, a space for reflection, growth, and collective healing. What do you tell men that are hurting right now?

Everything's going to be okay on the other side, you know, just push through it. And, you know, ironically, the root of the word spirit is breath. Wow. Which is why one of the most revolutionary acts that we can do as people just breathe. Next to the wound is their gifts. You can't even find your gifts unless you go through the wound. That's the hard thing. You think, well, I'm going to get my guess.

I don't want to go through all that. You've got to go through the wounds you're laughing. Listening to other people's near-death experiences, and that's all they say. In conclusion, love is the answer. Listen to sacred lessons as part of the Maikultura podcast network. available on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. To the real one, so I would love to be that guy. I'll tell you, I got a fight for you.

Like the little pain. I got a fight for you. Who? My partner, Ocho. Ocho, not fucking, man. Ocho. I've seen Ocho fight, though. He's pretty good.

Yeah. He's an athlete. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Ocho is pretty good. Yeah. I've seen him get knocked out. I can make it happen.

Yeah. You got that. You don't. I mean, I don't know if you can go back in, I don't know if you can rap after Ocho make you take Canva. Come on, man. You got to touch Earth. Nah, I'm not a, I'm not the fucking toughest guy in the world, you know. But I'm a different, I'm a different breed, man.

If I touch the canvas, somebody else's going to touch the canvas too. I'm going to get my ass up. But my hands up. Yeah. And I'm going to make sure it's even. I'm going to make sure it's even. You know what I got that dog in me. Some people get hit hard enough to where they don't want to get up.

Right. You hit me hard enough and I can't get up. Ooh. It's bad for you, Shannon. It's bad for you. Hold on. I saw Aaron Garcia almost knock the breath out of you. Yeah, he did, actually.

I mean, right. I fussed up because I lifted my arms up. So I kind of like. No, you got to put... Yeah, exactly, so I kind of... Why would you lift them up to give my body shot? No, no, to take one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, but why would you do that?

I thought I was tough. You just told me you was tough. Yeah, but my liver ain't tough, I guess. My shit weak. Did you brace? No, that's what I was saying. I started, so I got nervous before he swung, so I yelled a little bit, so I just opened it up. Like, ah!

So it was like the best. It was the best thing in boxing that you can hit somebody, like... Oh, liver shot, yeah. While they're hung up, and they're not bracing, they're actually, like... Yeah, no, that's it all out, huh? Yeah, I sure hurt. You should let him sock you one though? Oh, no.

No. You took Aaron the Pumper's girl, girl? She's on my, my, uh, Fresh Out of Love show. I ain't know it was his girl until he came out and made a whole little thing about it. She hasn't been chosen yet, so I haven't taken her yet. What if he want to box? Do winner take her? How many fights is Aaron have?

Will or take the young lady? I mean boxing him for no-b-and-for-nob already got her. I thought you said you had ever yet. She's at the crib. I haven't chosen her yet as one of my concubines. She's there, you know, trying out. She's trying out. She's applying herself.

That man ain't going to see this, man. You do realize that, right? Yeah, but he, you know, I don't think Aaron's tender like that. He's supposed to be the plumber. Oh, Lord, have mercy. You were stabbing the rob at the gym. You're training, right? Mm-hmm.

What happened? Did you know you were you talking to, or just? No, actually, it was, um, I remember that day very. Very vividly. I pulled up to the gym in like 9 a.m. training. I needed some water. So when I parked in front of the gym, I walked across the street to this little convenience store.

Little restaurant type thing. Got a water. I walked out. There was this black girl on the phone. She just kept looking at me, smiling on her phone, looking at me walking past. I'm like that. That's kind of weird. You know, I wave.

You know, I'm thinking it's a fan. That's always what plays in my head. So I go into the gym. Boom, I'm training, 30 minutes probably. A dude walks in with the dog. He got his little pocket knife, you know, clipped on it. Yeah. And he just walks in.

You know, it's just a vulnerable moment, you know, it's early. I just came in. The door's usually locked, but, you know, at this time, it's not locked just because of the circumstances, you know. Gym ain't open yet. You want to fight? Who are you? Don't worry about who I am. You want to fight me or what?

You like to fight, big dog. You like to do this, do that. Who are you? Then he starts yelling like, oh, you, something, my girl. Who's with my girl? My girl, well, I don't know. I don't know nothing about nothing, bro. You're like, what's your girl named?

Yeah, you know? Yeah, that's literally what I'm saying. Like, don't worry about it, bro. You want to fight or what? So I'm like, all right, bro, he's just on one. Like, all right, put the dog up, bro. And we can put some gloves on, man. Come on.

Like, you know, I'm training. Come on. No, I want to go bare hands. Oh, he's going for the full court press, huh? All right. So when he started doing that, my trainer steps in the middle of us. And he starts talking to him. I'm like, man, I already feel like, you know, like it's my time now.

So I step to the side and I glide. Wham, bam, bam. Give him a cold old two piece. He hit his head like, you smuck him. Yeah. I got gloves on, no. I didn't take my gloves on. Okay.

So, but I'm feeling like I'm being pressed, you know? So now I'm just reacting, you know, to his actions. So I take my moment, boom. He hit the pole, come back. Now he started going for the night, but he's like backing up, you feel me? So at first I'm on him, he hit the pole. I'm thinking he might fall, but he hit the pole and come back and he started going back. I'm like, oh shit, you're going to pull that knife out on.

He's like, I sure to f*** him Pulled it up Whipped it And put it right behind his ear And start chasing me like this I ain't gonna lie shenan I was running He was chasing me all around

I'm in the fucking boxing gym Like a maniac Right So boom When I back up Like you're gonna pull the knife out I sure am Boom wham

I'll turn it around I retreat I jump in the ring He stabbed me in the leg Because I got caught in the rope Trying to get in the ring Boom catch me in the leg. I'm like, he's serious. Let me stop playing. Let me run a little faster.

He ran a little faster. He just got me. Right. So, boom. Now I'm in the ring. He's like outside the ring. I'm like, man, you're trying to scrape me. So as soon as he jump in the ring, I jump out the ring. I run out the gym. This shit like a scary movie shot. I'm holding the door like this. So you think the girl that was on the phone set you up? I think she was on the phone with him probably and she probably made it seem like oh he was talking to me like he yeah and that was probably her dude or something right and then you just pulled up like you know how the dudes are right i do something to him right now stop playing with me you know she probably like oh you ain't gonna do nothing that's blue face like right that's the best recollection i come up with

did you know who it so you till this day you don't know who it was oh nothing about this dude man it's like 30 years old with a tank top on well clearly you ain't got no dynamite in your hand because you called him flush and then dropping? I did. The pole caught him. So as he's going, the only reason I even gave him a breath, like to, the only reason he got able to retreat and pull the knife out is because the pole caught him.

I hit him with the left. He's going down. I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to get on top of him. Hey, yo. Paul, hold on. Hey, yo, hold on. So, boom, as he going back, though, it's a pole. Wow, he hit his head on the pole.

And now he's like this, and he start backing up. So I start backing up. Oh, shit. I should have got up on him, no. I shouldn't have let him pull it out. I should have, you know, but I had the gloves on. But if you had dynamite in the things, it'd have been over. The pole couldn't have saved it.

Whatever. You ain't got no dynamite. Anyway. The cake blow you throwing at it. I'm holding the door barricaded, man. He's like, this is like a scary movie. He's trying to get out. I'm like, uh-uh, I ain't letting you out.

Uh-uh. You can stab me? Hell no. So boom, as I'm looking in his eyes, though, he started coming back to life. Like, the rage is like slowly. he's starting to realize he just stabbed me. So I'm all right, bro. I'm going to let you out.

This is a-jump in the Tesla. Put the dog in the Tesla. Jump in the car. I'm stocking the windows now. So the gloves start doing me justice. Yeah. You break his window? Busting the window, man.

So I bust the window. He drives down the street. Jump out of the car. Like, oh, y'all didn't see that. I'm like, bro. Well, hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes, bro.

He started. The dude show up at the gym. Won't a squabble. Okay, you hit him with a two people. peace, he falls back, but he catches his balance. He goes in his pocket with the clip on, boom. Stabbs you in the leg. Chasing me around the leg.

Chase you around the gym. You try to jump in the ring, you get caught in the rope, he puts you in the leg. Okay, now you run out the gym, he's inside the gym. You got a book barricaded in. As you see that glaze that was on his eye that he really wanted to kill you, as you see that starting to dissipate, you're like, okay, bro, I'm going to let your ass out now, but you need to be chill. You let him out.

He put the dog in the test. He's like, I started raging now. Socking all the windows. You busts, you, blah. You drive off. Get down the street to the light and start waving this, get out, and start looking in the air, like, y'all didn't see that. He just hit the window.

I'm like, bro, what the fuck? You just stagged. You said, okay. Go call the police. You feel me? You say call the police. You call the police. So, I guess some strange way.

The fire truck was driving. driving by and I'm stabbed so we weighed a fire truck now like you know try to patch me up type shit and then it went from there you had to get stitches yeah on the inside and outside so he stabbed me like knife went in two inches yeah damn yeah so I had to get my tissue stitched up in my skin damn yeah and I had a fight I couldn't fight looked at my fight who yeah it was pretty weird but it's part of life you know I I reacted and whatever happened happened. Did you, uh, you had, did you fight in prison? You had any boxing matches in prison? Yeah, oh yeah. You undefeated? I mean, if there any record, can we, can we verify this?

Um, if I had to put a record on it? Yeah. I didn't have that many fights, to be honest. But the ones that I did have, I probably say, really say like 9 and 0. I'm talking about, oh, you're talking about in the ring, or you're talking about, ain't no ring in prison? Oh, you talk, oh, you, you, you, you're talking to. Yeah, got to, or else people are going to start doing weird shit.

So I wasn't just fighting people just to fight them. Right. You have to, like, do something to me, like steal something while I'm not looking. Okay. Or how you know they're talking crazy? Shit, you was the last person here, man. We got to fight, man. Damn.

Even if you didn't steal it, you should at least know who's still. You feel I mean? You with me? So you squabble damn there about anything? Just if I feel...

They challenge you? If I feel disrespect to, yeah. Not just because you want to fight me or you... But you're a celebrity in prison. Exactly.

So that's why I'm fighting who I want to fight. You know, I'm not fighting the small dudes or... I'm fighting, you know? Right. You're not dictating who I'm fighting.

Right. I'm dictating who I'm fighting. Because there's plenty of other people I've got you want to fight me all right? Fight these 10 niggas right here and if you win you can fight Nobody's winning I'm a dicky you don't get to fight the final boss first right I'm the final boss So how celebrities treated in prison do you be get to be in G pop? Are you in Seig? How do they do a lot of talking to like counselors and reps and whatnot and if you tell them you want to go in there they're going to send you in there a lot of people be saying they force you or they don't

force you bro you tell them I'm cool with it yeah and they'll send you in there and then as far as the treatment everybody treats you like you're not famous in there because it's like a no who you you ain't nobody you're in here with you with us exactly so that's the treatment as a celebrity even the police treat you like that is prison like life, where people be asking you for your food? You know how they're like saying, hey, you're going to eat your corn bread? Yeah. People be actually asking for your food?

Yeah. What do you say, no, I ain't giving you my food. I'm going to eat it. Depending on how you said and how they take it, it would be good. How do you ask for it? Hey, bro, you're going to eat that? Yeah, I am. Yeah, just like that.

You know how to do it, Shannon. You know when somebody's like, you feel like you can take it? Yeah. Or when somebody's like, man, he said he's going to eat. I ain't for that, you know. But it's not even just something of no tough shit. It's just some people just want to eat, you know? If they see something on your tray that you're not touching or you saving,

you're not going to eat that, bro. Like, no, type of shit. You might just be saving it for the end type of shit. So you just be like, no, bro, I'm eating this. Right. It don't be like nobody trying to bully for a tray. I was going to say, I mean, somebody you just, oh, you want that piece of white bread?

Yeah. Knock yourself out. But if they feel like they can't take it, they will, you know. Oh, will? Really? Yeah, if they feel like, man, you're eating that. Yeah. So prison and jail is all about, like... It's all about respect, man, but you're not respecting the man's play.

It's all about, like, you know, who's masculine. It's all like... So if you got... If you got some... If you're a little, like, not masculine enough, you don't... They're going to test you. Yeah. You can, you know, everybody know who to try it with.

So you had them tattoos You had tattoos and they said Oh, he for real Yeah, and then I started getting big Yeah You started pumping that eye And you straight You push up

They got with, they took the weights out of In California didn't it? Yeah, no, it wasn't a weight It's just push-ups Push-ups and dips Sit up Pull-ups, push-ups and dips So all it took

And they say you, they say No, no, we ain't gonna mess with him Yeah, yeah, you know You know, I got my homies and stuff So Right I was always like It was never like I was messed with

But once I got bigger, you know, even the homie stopped messing with me. Like, yeah, bro, you get it too big. Torrey Lane, he got stabbed. How did he get stabbed if he, was he in G-pop? Um, so I'm assuming he was, but just on a different yard to where, okay, it's like 50% G-pop and 50% protective custody. Okay. So those yards are a little bit more stranger, you know, because you don't know what you're dealing with. At least in G-pop, you know, this dude's either a gangster or a...

Right. Over there, it's like, this dude could be a gangster, snitch, all in one, you feel me? Or a pedophile, you know? So, if I have to guess what that situation considered, just probably... But he's a small dude, didn't he? He's, like, five, three? Yeah, he's not that big, but at the same time, you know, the dudes that's not that big in there, they, you know... They howledish.

Yeah, they... They don't run for the wrong one. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm pretty sure the dude he was into it. It wasn't that big either. Really? But if I had to guess, it was probably just some ego-tistical thing going on, you know? And Joe has a way of, you think people got your back until something happens, you know?

Then you realize you're for yourself. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure he probably thought people had his back. He could carry himself a certain type of way. And this person just, you know, tried it. Wow. Do you see that? I don't know if it's AI, but a photo. you in prison.

Oh, my God. You did this clip? They'd be trying me, Shannon. I'd be doing everything so, so correctly that they got to do shit like that just to just to alter the mood, just throw it off. Come on, man. You know that's AI, man. I've seen that.

I'm like, wow, that's really okay. Right. That's a good thing, though. It's like, all right. Y'all got to go that to them lengths to try to debunk my, feel of me? You can't debunk this shit, man. They know it when they see it Do you get to have your hair any kind of way in prison?

Do they make you cut your hair? No, you got to have any way. A lot of people got dressed just because it's like you can see the growth. Right. But yeah, no, ain't no hairstuffs. But, I mean, they got to wash it. You got to take care of it.

That's why people get dressed because you don't got to wash it and take care of it. Or shave it all of her? Exactly. But they can't. I do got barbers and people that be cutting, you know, hustling, $5 cut, $3 cut. I don't know if you're trying, you trust somebody cutting your hair? Yeah, I got.

Do they got straight razors in there? A couple people f***ing me up. Nah, they just got the, you know, the little 99 cent raisers. Oh, bids, okay. I was going to say, that straight razor boy. No, you don't know. But, yeah, I didn't look. Got a little people, keep few people f***ing me up.

Oh, they push the edges back too far? Yeah, for sure. For sure. Before you went to prison, you're doing $2.25. Now you're doing $2.75, right? Yeah, I couldn't even do $2.25 before I went. I was doing like probably like $205. $205.

Now you can do $2.75 for one, two? Yeah. Yeah, probably two. It's pretty crazy, yeah. Yeah, you get about, you get another one in there. You might get $3.15. Yeah, no, that's pretty, I, that's crazy to me. But I love it.

I ain't going back, man. You ain't going back? You're done. I have never going back. I ain't going to never be seen. I heard a lot of people say that now. You ain't heard this one say it. I'm one and done, Shannon.

What it done? That made you change. What was it about prison to say, I ain't coming back here? Because you guess what? You said earlier, you had to worry about no responsibilities. You get two hot meals, a cold meal. You get a shower. You ain't got to worry about no rent.

That's the perks to it. You know, it's cons to it. And the cons of outweigh the perks to this situation. But, no, I was just sitting there and, you know, People acting funny, you're just like, okay, I would have did some time for you, you know? Yeah. I possibly would have overprotected you and got put in this position. And seeing you react like this, it's like, okay, it's not too many things that's worth sitting here for.

Yeah. So, let me chill. Mm-hmm. Shit. So how much you wait right now? Right now, I'm like 210. 210? How much did you wait when you went in?

150. 150? Yeah, in my last fight, I was 152. The food must have not been that bad. No, I was eating. A little salt and pepper. You gained 60 pounds. A little salt and pepper, I was eating all that shit.

I wasn't tripping. I was asking for your food, right? You don't eat that? Let me get your tray, bro. Let me eat. I need it. How long did you go sit down? Two years.

Two years? Yeah. That's enough for you, huh? Yeah, I was more than enough. I was the longest, you know? So I was just enough for, you know, for you to be like, okay. I could either do this or can't. Right.

I can't do that. You hear the story of Gucci Man's, his wife. I think it was his girlfriend at a time. He gave it $2 million. Every dime did he had cash, she flipped it. He came home. She had $6 million. Yeah.

You gave your baby mama 90. Yeah. Did she flip it? They ain't had nothing when I came back. Damn, zero. She ain't flipping? Mm-mm. No flip.

What she's spending the money on? No, it's crazy. I don't even know. I think she just got caught out with her lifestyle. She tried to blame it on rent and her car note and whatnot and taking care of the kids. But she didn't even take my instructions. I gave her her 90K and said, look, make this last. So what I did was I paid her a rent for five months and I gave her $40,000.

So I said, just make this last because at the time I had a six month sentence. Right. A week later, she's doing club hostings, books. Hostings bookings and stuff so she's making money now right so now you got this 90k on top of Whatever you make it 500 to 10,000 a weekend mm-hmm so even after the six months it was gone and I'm looking like okay you didn't listen to me telling you to just chill and make this last you went out and made money and you still ain't got any money also you was just taking advantage thought this shit would last forever so when you come home you're like you cut off Yeah, hell yeah.

I mean, as far as like companionship and futuristic plans, no, I would never be in that position with the same people. Right. Once somebody mess over you, you're done. You don't give them a second chance. No, I do. But if I know that if I was in prison right now, you wouldn't. You wouldn't do right by me. Yeah, then I'm not going to give you a chance because that just shows me that you're just using me, you know.

what have you learned about dating you should date as many people as you can so you can find out what you like what you don't like and then but not at the same time yeah well how do you give somebody

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You ain't trying to get married. Yeah, I want a female that I can deal with it, though. No! You can't deal with it right now. It's way worse stuff in this marriage that's going to go, not even as far as women, just as far as dealing with me. So if you can't deal with me, I don't got to be 10 women. If you can't deal with another female just, you know, competing.

I'm like a high school football coach, training, you feel I mean? You have the child. You are the best player. You want the best player to play. The best player are going to start. And I'm not going to micromanage, you know, but when you start showing up the practice late, and you start, you know, you start not appreciating the team. You start complaining about you ain't getting no playing time.

Next one and come on. This is plan. She thinks this shit of game, second string. And you notice that's when they started acting. like oh damn you know they go start trying out for other teams and whatnot they always come back but let me ask you this how can you be a better partner uh run a couple routes for him you know maybe get out there and run a few routes i don't got always coach they got sure you know play with them you know um like i said don't always be a coach not gonna

Get out in the field with him, you know. Show him, I'm going to play with you. I ain't just on the sideline, yelling at you. Why? Why are you okay revealing women that you used to date or deal with, dating other rappers or celebrities? Why are you okay with that? Why you just can't let that lie?

Why you just can't keep that between you and her? Because she can't keep it between me and her. She didn't say nothing. She ain't posted that she did all. is what you'd be posted, what you'd be talking. Why you do that movie? She didn't keep between me and her nine times out of ten. I already seen the shit.

It's already out there. So they're already too close. And I'm only putting it out there if you are putting something out there about me. So if you're going to go in their life and say, I'm this. I got a little dick. I'm gay. I'm going to put the truth out about you. And we're going to see whose reaction really, you know, is reacting.

Because, you know, people, when you tell the truth about people, But you know, but you know, a lot of times when, same, like women, when they get upset with a guy, they say he gay or he got a little small package. And when guys will say, she ain't no good in bed or yada, yada, yada. I mean, they're just trying to say things to get a reaction to hurt you. Right. But I'm not lying. I'm going to tell the truth because that's going to get a, that's going to hurt you and get a reaction. You lying is only going to get a reaction.

It's not going to hurt my feelings. Right. Like I said, I'm a reactor. Do you get upset when your ex is talked to other rappers in the industry? No. Not at all. So what's you done? You done.

I still fucking. I can't be like this and be holding court on no female. I can't just be out here just nailing shit. And then as soon as you get nailed, I'm like, oh, I don't want to nail you no more. That's, you know, that's a little hypocritical. Oh my goodness Right I guess I

What about you? Have you introduced any girls To the league Introducing to that lifestyle And then they They went to the next player Not that I know of I mean I'm sure

I'm sure There are women Then I dated Would you care? No I'm done I'm done But I ain't going back

You wouldn't nail them No No no No No If we move on, we decided to move on, just go ahead on, do your thing. No, because I don't, I don't want no confusion. What if there's still something there?

Nah. You ain't never had no female. I just had your little heart, your little number. You feel me? Had your little, you know. But I had to go back? Not necessarily go back where you just had a little bit more forgiveness in your heart. Like, okay, that's fine.

You f***lebron. That's cool, baby. I ain't driven. I still love you, girl. Nah, because I would be very disappointed because LeBron is. married he got Savannah so I would feel some type of weight right but with that being said no I'm not I'm not going back you mess with you mess with I don't care I don't care who it is I don't he don't have it doesn't have to be a celebrity or an entertainer or an influence or something like that I just I just move on

I get like that when I get out too no are you married but no but I've always been I've I've always been like that yeah even when I was when I was your age you move on be with somebody else I'm I'm cool did you have multiple women up were you promiscuous when I was young Yeah, I got three kids. How many babies? From different? Three. Nah, you don't get a dad.

I ain't proud of that. No, no, no. I ain't proud of that. I mean, because if I could do it all over again, I would have three from one. Yeah, me too, but you know. No, you wouldn't. It don't work like that. You probably have, you probably have five from five.

I mean, Shannon, I'm three for two, man. I'm doing better than you. You do better. You don't do that. I don't do that. Tush. Yeah, uh-huh. No, but Crescant, what was, what is it about her?

Because y'all have your little issues, y'all go back and forth, but for the longest time, you just couldn't seem to get, y'all couldn't get each other out of your system. Yeah, I don't know, I feel like the beginning kind of set us up for a certain type of expectation. and neither of us was that person that we expected us to be. So it just became a frustration thing, I want to say. Why you got to put your relationships out there in the public? Why you like that? So I know what's going on, man, you know.

If it's out in public, I ain't got to worry about if she's cheating. They're going to tell me. But a lot of times people throw stuff out there just because they don't want to see you happy. Yeah, but I know what's real. It's not. Get that little DM, hey, baby over here. little baby house right now

in the back room you feel in me thank you have that ever happened uh not necessarily like that but yeah like you know the fans will put you up on game about your girl that lets you know her past

her present but the past ain't got that I mean because look now past ain't got nothing to do with you I want to know though I got a little bit too much too much going on you know I'm a little high value I consider myself a high value man does a woman have a right to know

your past? Yeah, I put it out there. She can know whatever she want to know. Why you want, why? I'm asking for what I want to know. Let me ask you a question. What is it that you want to know? You want to know the guys or the number of guys, the names or the number?

Or both? No, I don't care for the name or the number, but how many rappers have you slept with? What's their names? So that way I don't know all that. For future preferences. P.I? No, no, it's just you don't know who gonna come out and say they f***s you, so I'd rather you let me know. As long as they didn't do it while you got or why you care?

I don't, if you tell me. No, they ain't got to tell you. I just did Soldier Boy like that. I can't do that. He didn't even know I f***ed his. His girl, his young lady. Yeah, my wife. Yeah.

He didn't know. So when I told him, he was. But that was before Soldier. It still hurt his feelings. I don't want to be that guy. Let me know, baby. So that way, even if, you know, I don't care. It's not going to stop me from with you.

But you look at it at it a different light. You're not going to take a serious. No, I still take a serious. I don't care. It's just from my knowledge. Put your mind in ease. Just so I know, like, if there's going to be a bump in the road, you know, let me know before it gets bumpy.

like if you if you dealt with a female and she with another NFL player you wouldn't want to know just know what you're dealing with like no I don't see I don't even ask I don't ask no question you're different then

you deal with you deal with you the way I look at you're dealing with me now am I going to have a problem if I did you don't want a nigga at the game he's targeting you and shit you like damn why is this hitting me after the play every damn show he's fucking

that's why You don't want to know If he's targeting me out of the plate I'm saying you don't want to know You don't want to be up to knowledge Just based on It's not going to dictate Whether you deal with her or not

The only time You're a high value man You should I do The only time I've ever asked If I'm dealing with someone That has a child I need to know

What type of guy That I'm going to be dealing with Exactly Because you know Hey I understand his best interest Is the child And I understand that.

And I don't meet everybody's kids. I don't meet everybody's kids until it's an extended period of time. Yeah. But I just want to, you know, because I need to know what I'm dealing with. Right. That's how you look at it. I look at it on a different spectrum, you know, maybe because I'm younger. Yeah.

But it's not to determine if I'm a f*** with you or not. It's more or less to determine who's going to come after me for you with you. Okay. Because I'm with it. I'm with you. I'm with it. I'm going to leave. How are you going to leave if you don't know?

But I'm, hey, but that's the thing. I let you know you're going to leave if you find it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're better not knowing type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's two different type of people, people that want to know, people that don't. It's going to cause a problem, place. Yeah.

Yeah, it's going to cause a problem. Because you, first of all, like you said, you're a known commodity. And so they're always going to feel it. And let's just say it's not somebody in the industry. It might be someone that's not in the industry. And when he's going to feel like, oh, blue face thing because he did or Shannon Sharp think because he's that. he can yada yada yada yeah i mean i just want to know who in my lane you know if it's a ball player NFL player i don't do but he raps let me know okay i don't want long as he in it long he can be

a hoopper he can be catched the ball he can do baseball whatever yeah as long as he ain't in my profession there you go that's a better way to say okay okay and it's not going to stop me for fucking with you it's just going to help me know what type of person i'm dealing with okay and what type of people you deal with no you need to learn your lady circles man type of even if it's her friends huh you don't check you check phones no oh you tripping brother I don't know I don't check baby I don't I ain't got no key on okay you got a key to your girl place you don't have a key to your girl place yeah I never use it but I ain't over at it but it's just it's just a mentality thing you know you want a girl that's

that's got the right mentality right these girls don't got the right telling me they just they mirror what you do trying to suck you dry oh no no they ain't mirror me i ain't sucking nothing they anything they doing what they do yeah did you did you did you fight chrischaugh's dad how you why but that's the old man you can't fight people dad if they hit me i'm a reactor shannon just hey that's the old say sir come on i said all of that all of that literally I didn't, I had no intentions of hitting him or fighting him. Just walk away.

It's too much to walk away? After somebody hit you in the face? That's old man, it ain't hurt. That shit hurt. I think it hurt your pride. That too. It ain't hurt me, man. And think you just want to, I'm going to walk away.

But that's your, that's your girl, dad. He ain't my daddy. Shit. is your girl dad how you how's your girl going to look at you knowing that you beat her dad up

I'm her daddy now that's how she better look at oh Lord I'm daddy now whoop your dad ass now I'm dad do you see the online drama that your exes have

some of your exes have do you tell you y'all need to cut y'all need to squash that you ever intervene No, I don't know. That's what I'm in, man. I don't micromanage. That ain't micromanaging.

That's just like, hey, come on, y'all don't need to do that. It is micromanaging. Once I let people can do what they do, that's how I do it. You can do whatever you want. You can go to fucking Compton tonight. I'm not going to say nothing. So you didn't play no role in anything, huh? After me, no.

While I was in jail, no. They're still trying to blame me for shit When I was in jail I've been jail two years I shouldn't be the blame for a thing Do you believe hurt people hurt people Because I'm trying to figure out You know, hey, maybe you need to talk to

I'm the wrong guy to talk to But I'm asking What happened? What woman, women, women, woman, One man or women Did something to put you in this frame of mind I don't know Probably my mom

My sister Your sister older than you Starts with your family Yeah You know you see them So you saw a lot You saw your mom had a lot of different men Early up

And so you thought that was No I just thought that woman weren't You know As upstanding as you As these guys think Right So you should definitely Be in it

for what you're in it for because you're not going to get hurt like that you know if I'm with you because I want to fuck with you there's nothing you can do to type thing if I'm with you because I think I'm the only person you then I'm kind of sacrificing myself

for the manipulation you know psychology game you play so you okay being with someone knowing that they're potentially seeing someone else other than you yeah if I'm doing it how can I not be okay with But I don't know how to be like that, Shannon. I don't know how to have 10 different women and tell one of these women that she can't have whoever's, you know.

That doesn't necessarily have to be the one I'm choosing. I'm going to say I'm going to choose the best player going to play. Do your mom know you feel this way that she might have played a role in how you are as a man? Of course. You talk to her about it? Tell her all the time. What did she say? I'm not a hole.

I wasn't doing this. I wasn't doing that. She got three kids and three baby dads. How do you feel about that? Mistakes happen. You feel? Look, she's y'all are the same boat, but for a man is different than for a woman. Yeah, which society says, yeah, women are judged at a different level and different standards.

I don't think that's the case now. Yeah, no, it's different now. Women have tried to take some of that power and say, I can do justice what a man can do. Yeah, and it's the me too effect right now. He could do it, I could do it too. You want to heal? You ever going to be in a situation? Can you ever be in a situation where it's just you and your partner?

Yeah, if I have a partner, that's... So I feel like it takes a partner to make you better, you know. It takes them dealing with some shit and still being a good example for you to, you know. I don't think men meet women and don't cheat on them if, you know, like, it takes her to like deal with you cheating and then you realize you really hurting her feelings. Right. enduring it and taking it like a real woman for you to stop. Mm-hmm.

What do you think? Everybody's got somebody. Everybody got somebody? Yeah, like prior. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's got a number. Yeah, everybody has somebody just to what extent. My grandfather used to say that.

He was affirmably, everybody has somebody is just to what extent. Married, fiancé, you know, hookups, niggins. Whatever the case may be, everybody has somebody is just to what extent. Exactly. So it takes a strong individual to get you off of those people. It takes them to deal with it, you know? Right. If they get eaten. Hey, what's up, everybody?

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But you got a lickback. We're even. Now you can't be mad and I can't be mad. So now I'm about to go f*** somebody else again. No, you're trying to keep, but you try to stay warm up. No, no, no, no. It's not that I'm staying one up. It's just you're not, you're not feminizing me.

It takes a woman to, like, get your feelings, you know? Uh-huh. Women win the feeling game. They don't win the Me Too game. But here's the thing. If a woman can't penetrate your feelings, she don't really mean nothing to you. Well, because you're not investing anything into that woman. So therefore, you don't.

You're not going to invest because you don't want to get hurt. I've invested in all of my women. No, you ain't investing nothing. You ain't invested nothing but time where you can start by and drop the package off and move on. No, I didn't really build these women up, man. What's your most valuable possession? Probably my dick. I'm going to lie, man.

That's the only thing I can hold every night. I was hoping you say the restaurant It's the only thing you could hold every night When that restaurant gone, Shannon, I still got my dick The restaurant ain't gonna be gone You say it's doing good I'm saying if I lose it all tonight I still got my dick

Oh Lord of mercy That's real shit That's not valuable Shannon I be hey to you What's your most valuable position? My family you don't really possess that though I don't I don't I don't really have anything like like Super Bowl rings and things like that

I don't really value it was great that's an accomplishment and I'm very proud of what I was able to accomplish but I don't really look at that I mean the thing that means the most of me I guess I should have asked what means the most of you yeah no no no yeah because that would hurt me the most if I were to lose as a family I don't care about no Super Bowl rings I think if you lost your dick, it would hurt a little bit more. Oh, Lord, have mercy. I'm just saying, brother. Hear what I'm saying.

If you was walking around here with no dick, would you want to live? I'm going to live. I'm going to feel some kind of way, but I ain't trying to leave here. You could live with everything but your dick. I can live without that, too. No, you can't. Hold on. No, you can.

So if it went away, You don't want to live? No. Hell no. Anybody else feel like that? Nah, you by yourself. Hey, I'm going to go get breakfast every morning. But I ain't having to off myself because I ain't got no package.

No, I ain't going to off myself. What I'm saying? I ain't going to be happy. That's okay. I mean, you got to work with other things. We ain't come on this way to not be happy, Shannon. We're putting in all this world. You got to work with other things.

All them practices, man. We ain't gained. Just work with other things. You got hands. You know, work with other things. Keep yourself happy. Man, I can't believe you, bro. I can't believe you.

I'm telling me you, walking around here with no dick. And be fine with it. I didn't tell you that. That's crazy. I'm sure there are people in the world that, you know. But let me ask you a question. What if you had one, but it didn't work? Is that because I used it up?

Or I'm older? It doesn't matter. It doesn't work. It don't matter if the car got 700,000 miles on it. It just won't crank anymore. Or you got a lemon. It don't matter. We're going to keep it in the shop, man.

We're going to stay in the hood. We're going to keep baby. Baby, just keep sucking, baby. I don't know what's going on. This motherfucker going to work one day. I ain't going to give up, though. I ain't going to give up with my dick, Shanna. I see.

My dick ain't never gave up on me. Why did you make your page private when you got on the prison? I don't know. I kind of wanted to be private. How are you private? You stay out all the time. Everybody's see your ass. I know, that's why I took it off.

I thought about it. And I was like, damn, you know, people can't tag you and shit, put you on their story and whatnot. I was like, it probably wouldn't be as beneficial as I thought. What do you learn about fame? I learned that, um, got to know how to manage it, you know, you got to learn how to, um, when you log out those apps, log out of that, you know, log out of that, you know, log out of that, that state of mind when you go home, you're not famous, you know? Is fame addictive? Yeah, probably. I noticed a lot of people like when they get a little buzz, a little moment, they like

harp on it. So Cloud's definitely addictive. It's a hell of a drug. What would you do if you weren't famous? If you walked out of here today and for the next, for the rest of your life, nobody knew who you were. You were just some guy walking down the street. How would you feel? If I had money, I'd be happy.

But if I was broke, I wouldn't be happy. Like if I got out of money without the fame, that would be. Yeah, you take the fortune. That would be a better life. Mm-hmm. Sure. You said you're never going back to prison again. How do you want to be remembered when it's all said done 50, 60 years from now?

Mm-hmm. How do you want people to remember blueface? Mm-hmm. Just real, you know. I admire just being real, just keeping it real. Not necessarily like overly, you know, just enough to where it's like, all right, he ain't lying. If he said it, it happened. Yeah, I believe, I believe everything you said.

Really? That's how I would go out. And if Blueface said that shit, it happened. I saw you The viral video of you telling DDG Giving him advice about kids Oh yeah Because he had a similar situation

With his child's mother And you know They're going back and forth Hopefully everything got resolved with that But what were you hoping to accomplish What were you trying to accomplish In that situation? What?

Telling them Yeah Just being honest with him You know, the truth Like I said If If anybody's living the truth and they can guide the next person.

That's a great thing, you know, whether it's good or bad. Like, if you can, hey, look, man, I know you think it's going to be like this, but this is my experience and, you know, experience is the best teacher. Yeah, absolutely. So if you could tell somebody your experience and they still go through with it and, hey, I told you. No, it has to be a lesson learned through that experience. Yeah. Because action without consequence is no lesson can be learned.

No matter the experience, if there's not a lesson learned, Yeah, I agree I learned all my listen I ain't no dummy man As soon as I peep it I learned it Right You know I have a habit of

Breaking things down A little too much To where I want to know Why you do the things you do What makes you do it Why did you say Why do you Why you care

It's because I like to know What made you What got you You know Not necessarily to be mad about it Just to know like okay You'd be asking I'd be one to be saying

He'd be asking He asks us a weird-ass question. I like to study people. Body language, you know, patterns, you got a tendency to do this. More than that, when I say this, you react to it like that. You know, when I'm, you reacting like this, all right. You know, I don't know, I just like to, I pay attention.

How many rings you got? Three. That's nice. Well, you're. We went back-to-back, 97, 98, and then I went to the ring. And then we won 2000. That's how long it's been? I've been retired coming on 20, over 20 years, two decades.

Martin Luther King was at your game? He was assassinated a couple of months before, he was assassinated a couple of months before I was born. Patrick Douglas was at the game and all the life. Who you was playing with back then? You got a leather helmet on? Man, I just can't believe you, Blueface. I mean, we have the good interview with this man out the rip.

I don't know why that game. I got to get you, man. You've been keeping a little two to pee for the interview, man. What? Let me ask you a question. With all of this great things instilled in you, why you ain't married? Why I'm not married? You're a one woman, man.

You know what? Let me tell you why. Because when I was playing football was the most important thing. You know, playing football. And I was never, because I was never going to, I could never give her what I gave football. And it's hard. And so I started in television. and I worked and worked and worked

and I can never give somebody the attention, the focus, the love that I gave TV because I wasn't good at TV at first. I had to get good and I had to work and work and work and work and work. And that's been my biggest problem because what I worked at to be good at football

to what I worked at to be good at media, I never put that kind of same time into a woman. And I'm running for that. How old are? So basically What I'm gathering from this What you gather? Cheated yourself out of life

You know 57 years You ain't experienced Half the shit I experienced You're supposed to have a picket fence With the kids And a domination somewhere I can still have that When?

I'm gonna be maddened I'll give myself, you know what? You're looking for somebody to To change your diaper? No, I don't need no hospice wife That's what I'm saying You know. You're giving all the fun years away to nothing?

I have given a lot of years because I don't take vacations. Come on. I don't do a whole lot. Yeah. I'm going to change. I'm going to change. Come on. 26.

We change together. We change together. Blueface. I'm going to change together. Hey, I'm going somewhere. I'm going to vacation. I'm going to an island. Ain't nobody going to know.

It ain't going to be on the Internet. All right. You going to have a lady with you? Yeah. I'm going to a damn island by myself. Well, you're talking shit. I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to be, you know, with a 57-year-old man on the island.

Hey, I know a few. But I got one. Why you asked me all these questions, face-day? You asked me 100 questions, baby mamas, all the stuff. You're okay to club, shay-shay. That's what happened in the club, Shays. I can't get to know. Shannon on Shishay?

Call me out. All right, I'm going to call you. I'm a call you. Blueface later. gentlemen. That's the sound of the group chat going off when your fantasy team scores another touchdown in the playoffs. I'm J.J. Zachary Eisen, host of the Late Round Fantasy Football podcast.

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