Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Bobby Brown Part 2

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

  In this episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe sits down with the legendary Bobby Brown—the original bad boy of R&B, Grammy Award–winning icon, New York Times bestselling author, and chart-topping phenomenon. Bobby dives into founding Bobby Brown Foods with his wife and shares his love for cooking—especially his unbeatable fried chicken. He reflects on whether his kids will follow in his entertainment footsteps and reveals his all-time favorite song he’s written. Bobby breaks down his songwriting process, his dynamic collaborations with producer Teddy Riley, and gives us a front-row seat into the making and legacy of My Prerogative. He even reacts to Britney Spears' controversial remake and opens up about being inspired by icons like Michael Jackson, Prince, Rick James, and Stevie Wonder. He shares the real story behind MC Hammer asking him to wear parachute pants and reveals how New Edition taught Michael Jackson how to moonwalk sideways, reflecting on his favorite memories of the King of Pop. He also weighs in on Chris Brown vs. Usher as Michael Jackson’s closest successor and recounts meeting Usher for the first time. From naming his favorite modern artists—SZA, Tems, Jazmine Sullivan, Anthony Hamilton, Bruno Mars—to addressing the hot debate ("Is R&B dead?"), Bobby keeps it real. He drops his Mount Rushmore of R&B singers (Prince, Michael, Marvin, Stevie), reflects on Don’t Be Cruel selling 12 million copies, and gets candid about streaming's impact on artists, the importance of owning your masters, and surviving fame from a young age. He also opens up about being kicked out of New Edition, how predatory music deals cost him $30 million, and why going solo was the best decision of his career. Bobby names his top four singing groups of all time—Gap Band, Jackson 5, New Edition, and Kool & the Gang—and reveals his best and worst purchases, including the wild story of spending $1 million in a single day. He reflects on the pain of being taken advantage of by family and friends, and the loss of one of his closest friends to gun violence. He also shares the pride of building his own studio—where artists like OutKast recorded. From Donald Trump’s cameo in his “On Our Own” video to his run-ins with the law—including getting arrested for dancing with a fan in Georgia—Bobby tells it all. He talks about working with Martin Lawrence in A Thin Line Between Love and Hate, starring in Two Can Play That Game, and why he regrets turning down a role in Strictly Business with Halle Berry and Tommy Davidson. Bobby looks back fondly on his time on Real Husbands of Hollywood with Kevin Hart, Nick Cannon, and Nelly, and opens up about the intense experience of his reality show with Whitney Houston. He also talks about being shot by an ex-boyfriend of his then-girlfriend—and his romance with Janet Jackson in the '80s. The R&B superstar shares his mission with the Bobbi Kristina Serenity House, a charity created in honor of his late daughter. From the highest highs to the most heartbreaking lows, Bobby Brown proves once again why he’s not just a music icon—he’s a cultural legend. Don’t miss this powerful and unfiltered conversation. #volumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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founding partner of I Heart Women's Sports. Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway. Why do you think it's so hard for, so difficult for groups that break up? I mean, you see some groups that never broke up Earth, Wind, and Fire, Ohio Player, you know, Brick, Bar, Case, things like that stay together and they still touring 40, 50 years later. But a lot of times when groups break up, if they ever break up, they don't get back together. Why do you think that is? They have no...

I don't think they pray enough together. That's the one thing New Edition does. We pray together. We love each other enough to put up with each other's you know, and put it to the side when it's time to put it to the side. When it's time to work, New Edition will be at the front line, ready to do it, ready to get it on,

ready to give the audience what they deserve. And I love that about us. Looking back, if Bobby could do anything different, what would he do different? Oh boy, I wouldn't have spent so much money so quick. I mean, I wouldn't buy as many cars and leave them on the side of the road. I would buy cars in each city that I went in.

Like if I saw somebody driving down the street in a nice car, and I'm on the tour bus, and we're in that town for the day, I would ask the person if I could buy their car. And then leave. So you bought the person's car. Bought the person's car. And would leave it at the airport,

or leave it at the side of the road, or leave it at a hotel. What the hell wrong with you? I don't know, I don't know what was wrong with me. So somebody got a car, somebody got a car like, oh, oh well, it was just a car. But I would not have done that in my right state of mind.

So your financial people are like, Bobby, you gotta stop this, your mom, your dad. Well, like you said are like, Bobby, you gotta stop this. Your mom, your dad, well, like you said, it was your prerogative. Did you, I mean like, who, Bobby, you do realize this isn't normal. I know. I understand, if you wanted to buy a car,

say, man, I really like this car. I mean, I'm gonna get this car, hey, ship this car to Boston, or ship this car here. How do you buy a car? I wasn't thinking like that. I was just, I was, I don't know. I was. Y'all heard this man say he would literally buy a car, drive it, leave it side the road or leave it parked at the airport. Yeah.

Lord have mercy. I wouldn't do that now. No, I know. Your wife ain't gonna go for that. No, she ain't. Now. Nah, I know. Your wife ain't gonna go for that. No, she ain't. No, she ain't. The NBA 82 game grind is done. And now the real fun begins. The NBA playoffs are here.

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Earth, Wind & Fire, Four Tops. You just named them all. No, you don't. We got Cool in the Game, SWB, Druid Hills, Jodeci, Destiny's Child, Jagged Edge, Tony Tony Tone, Commodore's, OJ's, Parliament, The Miracles, Ohio players, Gladys Knight, The Pimp, and the Gap Band. You wanna get four?

Oh man. I would have to go with the Gap Band. Gap, okay. Charlie, Uncle Charlie. Uncle Charlie, definitely. Jackson's. Yep, they gotta be up there. They gotta be up there.

I would definitely vote my group up there, New Edition. And last but not least, probably Cool in the Gang. Okay. I'm sorry, Isley. I'm sorry, Earth, Wind & Fire. He ain't put y'all up there. Ohio players, Parliament, OJs. See, that was trickery.

That was trickery because I couldn't remember all of the names that he said. The Temptation and the Five Heartbeats. Did you watch that movie? I loved that movie. It is. That movie is such a classic of what groups actually go through.

Really? Yes. That was a classic group story. That's what I, that was my next one. Do these movies remind you of group experience? Yeah, we had some experiences like the five heartbeats. Hey, did you ever feel like David Ruffin? Ain't nobody come to see you, Otis.

I couldn't say that. How did you become the lead? I've never been the lead. I think Ralph's always been the lead singer of our group and we take pride in having such a great lead singer like Ralph Tresvant. He's smooth. He's somebody that he's sensitive on stage and off stage, but this brother I'm talking about,

this brother can mispractice for the whole week, come in and do the steps better than everybody that has practiced that whole week. He will have all the dance steps down, have his whole persona of what he's gonna do on stage. He knows exactly what to do when he hits that stage. And that's why we have the best lead singer ever. Do you think there was ever any jealousy among bandmates?

I would hope not. I've never seen any jealousy. They've always been supportive of me and I've always been supportive of them. And I think that's what kept the bond with the group so strong. Well, you ain't tell me why you got voted out. It had to be something, it had to be something going on. Your wife went on shaking her out. It had to be something, it had to be something

going on right? Your wife went on shaking her head, she like, yeah something had to be going on. Hey. They booted you out the group. I was too wild. I was too wild. But you was, hey, you was hit, okay maybe you missed

meeting, I mean the private rehearsals. I probably missed rehearsals, I probably missed shows. You missed shows? I missed shows you get shows Shows I missed everything. I didn't although I wouldn't miss I wouldn't miss everything I would you know damn Bobby. I'm trying to give you some grades. I was like, okay, maybe he's a little late Rehearsal, maybe he missed, you know a little function they were supposed to be how you missed the whole show You do you do realize like the people that sit in attendance, like damn, new addition, where Bobby? Yeah, that's what would normally happen with Bobby.

I don't miss shows now. I don't miss shows now. Unless I'm not well. Right. Let me ask you this. You go solo. What do you think, what's the worst and the best part of a solo career?

Or if there is such a worst part of a solo career? There's really no downside to being a solo artist. Okay. I think once you take control of your career, once I took control of my career, it was all upsides. You know, the music got better, the money got better, not having to split your money. Your hundred thousand you split into five waves,

a dime, hundred thousand, I got it all for myself. Yes, so there's no downside to that. So there's no downside to that. How hard, because like you said, you wanted to kind of get away from kind of like the bubble gum, so how hard was it for you to reinvent yourself as an adult? Because for the most part, people had only seen you in that group and they had only seen you doing Candy Rain

and they only had seen you doing Mr. Telephone Man. So that's all they knew you from. So how difficult was it for you to reinvent yourself to be taken seriously as an adult artist? It wasn't that difficult. Once I once I got a grasp. You started to tear it up. When I started to really see the crowd react into what I was doing, it just made me feel stronger in what I was doing, what I was about. When you saw the crowd react like that, in the back of your mind as you're performing,

I made the right decision. Yes. This is what I'm supposed to do. That's exactly what happened. That it got into the back of my head that if I didn't do this, I don't think I would have, I don't think that we would be still successful if I hadn't went solo.

If I hadn't gotten put out the group and had to fend for myself. You do realize, it's not often, you go solo, boom, blow up. Bill Beb Devole go solo, boom, blow up. Ralph, boom. It doesn't happen like that. Normally you get LTD, you get Jeffrey Osborne, he does what he does. You get the Commodores, you get Lionel Richie. He goes off, does what he does. You get Harold Melvin in the Blue Notes.

You get Teddy Pentegrance. He goes and do what he does. But all the members were standalones once they had to stand alone. You realize how unique that is, Bobby? Did you ever think about that? Like, damn, we had a, it's like having Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning all with the same teeth.

And then they go everywhere and they start like damn, that's what you had. Yeah, New Edition, that's what New Edition stands for. It stands for, you know, we are the super group that did the impossible. Yes, I can't think about the top of my head that I'm looking at all these groups that I named. I don't think when you go back and look at them,

obviously NSYNC with JT, but when you go back and look at it, I don't know if they had the success like individualists like you guys had. No, no one has done it. Wow. That's the great thing about New Edition. No one has done it. Wow. That's the great thing about new addition. No one has done what we have accomplished. How difficult is it to be a star?

When you talk about being a star, what do you mean? I mean, the being in the limelight? Being in the limelight, okay, you gotta, obviously you gotta produce in the area in which you're in. Soelight, okay, you gotta, obviously you gotta produce in the area in which you're in. So you're a singer, you gotta be able to come out with hit records. You an entertainer also, you gotta be able to entertain.

Because some people I feel that they're better entertainers than singers. And some people I feel they can sing better than they can entertain. But you were both, you had to be both. And you had to be lights out every single night that you hit the stage. The pressure to keep coming out with these hit songs,

the pressure to perform at the highest level. You can't have an off night, Bobby. No, you can't. Because you're by yourself. You can't, you can't. I think that's why I say, work on your craft. Okay.

Always practice on your craft. Okay. Always practice on your craft. Always be... Be mean to yourself when it's time to rehearse. Okay. When it's time to get out there and do it. When it's time to get in front of people and be nice to people. when it's time to get in front of people and be nice to people. I've never said no to an autograph from a fan.

Really? Never, ever. So you enjoyed the meet and greets? I enjoyed the meet and greets. I enjoyed being recognized. I enjoy every part of it. Right. Because it's who pays my bills, they pay my bills.

Damn, Bobby, what about when you're on the sneak tip and you ain't wanna be recognized? I'm saying, it is what it is. They recognize you, you have to go ahead and do it. They go ahead and say, to make sure they don't blow the cover. Right. Let me ask you this.

Obviously, the cars were some of the worst purchases. They probably wouldn't have been bad had you not left them. Yeah. So what are some of the worst purchases? Because now you got you got this money. I mean, you make more money than you ever thought, Bobby. Those were probably my worst purchases and the house in Atlanta, Georgia.

I bought this big ass mansion in Alpharetta. I bought this big mansion from, I believe, the porn king or the, once it was owned by the porn king and then it was owned by the waterbed king and then I bought it and it was just the worst, the worst money I've ever spent. I bought the house, put like two million dollars

into the house. Damn! And then did not live in the house. What? Just left it to my family and it was probably the worst purchase I ever purchased. You mentioned earlier that you gave a lot of your money away, you gave a lot of money to your family,

you gave a lot of money to friends before you realized, when did you realize that, you know what, they're my family, they're my friends, they're taking advantage of me. How far down the road were you before you... I was all the way down the road. All the way, all the way in. I don't regret it.

You don't? I don't regret it. What I've been through in my life, I think we're all learning lessons, learning teaching moments that got me to the place that I am now. What would you do different in that situation? You got to say, I will place you back,

you know what you know now, in 56, I'm gonna place you back in that situation. What would you do different? I would put my family on allowances. Okay. Not unlimited budgets, huh? Not unlimited budgets, no. I wouldn't just buy frivolously, frivolous things,

you know, for them, you know, spoil them. And I would just, I would take care of myself a little bit better, you know. I've been through so much, you know, as far as, you know, from drugs to alcohol to just not taking care of myself. And I think I would just take care of myself a lot better. Is it true you once bought a store for a woman And I think I would just take care of myself a lot better.

Is it true you once bought a store for a woman because her boss mistreated her? Yes. And she owned the store and then she had the boss start working for her? Yes. What made you do that? I saw how he was treating her and I didn't like it. And it was just a way of me telling myself

I could change a person's life with just one check. One check. And that one check, that lady owned that place for I don't know how long, and she had the boss working for her. Maybe she had him treated. Maybe she treated him like she treated her. Yes, I hope so. What's up everyone? It's Greg Rosenthal and I'm teaming up with the King of Spring,

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I bought three watches, two cars, and a house. You didn't want to space it out? I'm going to buy a house. You didn't want to space it out. I'm gonna buy a house this week. No, the thing was, the thing was, I wanted to spend a million dollars in one day. I mean, just for the hell of it. Where you, if you spent a million dollars in a day, were you gonna be like, Bruce just million

all of a sudden get 10 million? At the end of that day, if you spend a million, what? No, I wish that was the case though. I wish that was the case. I mean, Bobby, did you, I mean, as you said, clearly you didn't think it was as it was ridiculous then, but as you sit back here now, 30 years later, do you realize how ridiculous that was?

Yeah, I do,? Yeah, I do. I do. I do. That's why I'm glad I got such a beautiful wife that won't allow me to do that no more. Well, you told her that story. Did she punch you how many times? I just want to know.

No, she didn't. She didn't. She didn't. She didn't. Because she said, she has money we could have had. She just laughed it off and said, you know, we got to work then have had. She just laughed it off and said, you know,

we gotta work then. Yeah. Gotta work. Right. Gotta keep it up. What have you learned about money? It's not to be taken advantage of. It's about knowing when to, how do you say,

knowing when to hold them, knowing when to, how do you say, knowing when to hold them, knowing when to fold them, knowing when to walk away. Yeah. That's what I think about money now. Someone that's coming into money now in this industry or any industry and they came to Bobby, what's some of the advice you would give them? Save, invest.

You can't go wrong with owning pieces of property because they're not making any more. True. So I would tell them to invest and buy lots of land. We talked earlier, you're in the food service business. Do you wish you had invested more earlier? Yes, definitely. I wish that I knew what I,

I wish I knew what I know now, you know? I wish I met my wife a lot earlier. Right. Yeah, that's what I wish. Do you ever look back and like damn, I blew a lot of effort money on bullshy. Yeah. Yes. If I could switch that around, I'd be the cheapest mother on the planet. But let me ask you a question though. If you could switch it around, let's just say for the sake of argument, obviously you're going to have a nice lifestyle. You're going to have your nice home. You're going to have a nice couple of cars. You have kids.

You're going to take care of. But let's just say for the sake of argument, we switched that around and now your worth is 10, 20, 15, 20 times what it is now. Are you with the group? Am I with the group? Yeah, are you touring with the group? Let's just say for the sake of our... Right now? Yes. Bobby's worth 250, a quarter of a billion dollars. I'm still touring with no audition.

He's like, no he not, no he not. I'm on the yacht. I'm on the yacht. I'm on the yacht. Why'd you say she's on the yacht? Yeah, she could be on the yacht. That's just something about touring with them. What is it about there? It's the brotherhood. You're with your brothers.

Comradery. And the screaming. Yeah, cause a lot of them, damn near, I guarantee you, 75, 85, maybe even 90% of the people that's in the audience, they grew up listening to you guys. Now you have new fans, but you have a base, a base, any Forlifers are a group of people that, I mean, we cherish them.

We cherish them because they are diehard fans. And they know us a lot better than we know ourselves. And it's just beautiful to see their faces when we go out there and see all of the familiar faces that we've seen over the years, over the years, over the years. They grew up with us. Did you own a music studio in Atlanta? Yes.

Boston. Art grade 3000 and Big Boy, they recorded a song. Yeah, they bought the studio from me. Yes. Wow. Yeah. What made you decide to own a studio? Not wanting to spend my budget on other people's studios.

Oh yeah, you're making somebody else rich. I was making somebody else rich by recording in their studio, so I bought a studio to record my own albums. And then you let other people come in and they pay you, and you got rich off them. Yeah. So what are some of the artists that came through your studio? Of course, you know, people like Bryce Bryson used to come there a lot. Outkast, a lot of the young entertainers from Atlanta.

Is it still functioning in the studio today? Yes, it is. But it's called Stankonia. Oh, okay. So they still own it? Yeah, they still own it. Wow. You had a friend that was fatally shot. He was sitting in your Bentley.

Do you remember that moment? Yeah. So what happened? Was it a mistaken identity? No, they wanted him, they wanted him dead. I don't know why, I don't know the gist of what happened, but I just know that it was just... You were in your hometown, you were back home, right?

Boston, Massachusetts, yes. I'll never forget that moment. Never. 178 bullets was in the car. 178? Damn. And I didn't get scratched once. Hold on.

They fired 178 rounds into a car and not one bullet touched you. Not one bullet touched you. Not one bullet. That's how I know I got somebody watching over me. Yeah. There are a lot of your mom and your dad, a lot of people pray for you, Bobby.

That's unheard of. Wow. How did that moment change? Did you like, did you realize how fortunate you were? Do you realize like, there has to be a God? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And it also taught me that going back home sometimes ain't always where you need to be. Cause everybody's not happy for your success, Bobby.

Right. Even though you're from a small town, I mean, they saw you, I mean, the way I look at it, Bobby, if we from the same small town, you had the same opportunity I had. I mean, sometimes it's a little different. I mean, I grew up with, you know, my grandmother raised me. But I, for the most part, went to the same high school,

pretty much did the same thing. So we all had an opportunity. Maybe it wasn't music, maybe it was sports. Maybe it was for you could have been a lawyer Maybe you could have been a doctor, but you had an opportunity What is it that you think that makes someone resentful of someone else's success? I Don't know, you know they believe that they should have it should have been them in some form of fashion.

But I don't know, it's just, it's mind boggling that people tend to get jealous of someone else's success. Right. When you should just bust your ass and work hard to be your own successful being. Right. You had Donald Trump in your music video on our own in 1988. Yeah, I did not know Donald Trump at that time. The company, the record label had that okay. They did it. Yeah

He was just a popular person. Yes in New York City, right? It was about the Ghostbusters, so Donald was in the video Did you think Donald did you think almost? 35 years later, he would be president of the United States? Hell no. Hell no. That's crazy, right? It is. It is. Acting. Yes. What made you want to do that? It's a form of entertainment that I feel passionate about. Like doing the different movies that I've done, just working with different comedians and the different actors, I had so much fun.

Really? Had so much fun. And it was just- You like those long days? It's a hurry up and wait situation. Yes. It's a hurry up and wait. You hurry up to wait for you to shoot five minutes of film,

but you wait four hours, five hours. Six hours, 10 hours, yes. Yes. You might be on the set 12 hours and actually work five minutes. Five minutes. I always say paying for them 12 hours. I'm good.

I'm good. I'm looking at some of the actresses and actors you work with, Angela Bassett, Len Winfield, Regina Winfield Regina Cain Chris Tucker Chris Rock Jennifer Lewis Dick Gregor look him what's some of the best advice that you got while on set? Pay attention to pay attention to what the director wants right from the scene. Pay attention to the script. And if they want you to go off script, let you ad lib, okay? Let you ad lib a little bit,

which Martin allowed me to do in Thin Line Between Love and Hate. It was fun. It was a lot of fun shooting the different scenes that we shot. There was one scene where Martin wasn't there and it was basically me directing the scene. And it's the scene where I'm in the club and I'm asking the girls, you know, we need some dancers to fill up the club.

So, Martin wasn't there that day. So, they allowed me to just, they allowed me to, you know, block that and do that scene myself. And that was a lot of fun. Do you wish you had done more of it? I still wanna do more acting. Yeah, yeah, definitely. What you looking to do?

What's the type of role bodies you looking to get into? No romantic roles. Ha ha ha ha ha. Wifey ain't going for that one. No, wifey ain't going for that one. Ha ha ha ha ha. So no more romantic comedies. Yeah.

Shoot them up movies. I like shoot them up movies. Okay, you want a gangster movie, huh? Gangster movie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Play a gangster. If there's a role that you turned down you wish you hadn't, you're like, damn, why the

F did I do that? Yeah, there was a movie I was gonna do with Holly Berry and Tommy Davidson and I turned it down and I wish I wouldn't have turned it down. Was that in the movie with Jamie Foxx? No. Strictly business? It was strictly business. Damn. Damn, Bobby, what the hell?

I don't know. I was on tour at the time. Okay. So I was just like, I'd rather, you know, go out here and get this money in. Right. Not tie myself down at the time. Have you ever gotten stage fright or forgotten a line?

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I've cut, cut, come on Bobby. I have, I have. I think more so, more so now I get a little bubbly in my stomach when I go on stage. I think because of the age thing right now. Um, but back in the days, no, I didn't, I had no problem with going on stage at any time or, or doing anything on stage. But now it's just like, it's more sort of a job than it being pure energy. Right.

What's your favorite memory of a thin line between love and hate? My favorite memory of thin line between love and hate was probably just working alongside Martin. Martin is just, he was a great director. The way he directed me. And also just, he was just a good friend at the time. Right.

Did you learn anything? You see how Martin was playing too much. She puts something on him too though. Oh yeah, she damn sure did. He's not playing with people. You mentioned, so obviously Mark did a great job and you say he was a friend. Did you know Mark before you was on the set?

Yes. Yeah, we knew each other. He had asked me to be a part of this film he was gonna do. And I was like, you know, anytime. Right. And when he did call, you know, I was like, yeah, let's go do it. And we was in Los Angeles filming

and it was just a lot of fun. Two can play that game. Vivica Fox, Boris Chestnut, Gabrielle Union, Monique, Anthony Anderson. How was that experience? That was hilarious. I got a chance to wear prosthetics. Okay.

And become two different, I was two different people in the movie. Okay. So I was Big Mike and then I was Big Mike. But I got the chance to wear the Jerry Curl and the teeth and the bumps and all kind of shit on my face. And then I got cleaned up. So that was a lot of fun.

Reality, the real husbands of Hollywood. It was Nelly, you, Kevin Hart, and Nick Cannon. You like reality TV? I do like reality TV because it's open. It's open for, like that's scripted. It's scripted reality. Right. But for the most part you just have fun with a bunch of cool cats.

So that's what that was. That was just a lot of fun to shoot. You did reality, did you have another reality show, right? I had a reality show with my wife now and I had a past one with my ex-wife, yes. So is that what kind of got you, because when you had it with your ex-wife, is that kind of what gave you the bug? You got kind of bitten with reality TV? Well, I know Bobby your life was a reality, bro I don't know if you noticed it. Yeah, you sit down cameras in your house all the time, but they would follow you everywhere

So your life was a reality Bob. I just want you to know that yeah, they They basically gave me that opportunity to fall in love with, you know, being truthful to myself. Yes. And not minding being open. Right. Do you remember the scenes that you were buying glasses and you were dancing, you buying the glasses for your ex

and you were dancing? Were people annoyed with you in the store? Huh? When you was dancing. You remember that scene that you were buying the glasses and you were dancing. Do you think people got annoyed with you? I don't know.

I was annoyed after I shot the scene. I was just like, what the hell was I thinking? What was I doing? But it was fun when we did shoot it. It was a lot of fun being a part of, you know, something like that. Of people that have played you, who do you feel has done the best job

of portraying Bobby Brown? Oh, hands down, what's his name? Woody McClane? Woody McClane. He did the best job? Yeah, definitely. Okay, I mean the fans, what the fans seem to think also.

But you know what? I tell you, now we gonna go back to your own stage. My bro, you thinking, man, you should do all kinds of stuff on stage, man. Yeah. What? You know what, you think you can, man? You should do all kinds of stuff on stage, man. Yeah. What? You know what you did? You did that.

What is it? You got that Birdman going. You did that. What, what about it? I mean, do a sexual acts on stage? I mean, come on, Bob. Well, it was just something to do. Something to grab.

I mean, you coulda continued singing. Grab, to grab some attention and sell more records. You got to do. You grab a lot of things. Yeah. Just not attention. Yeah. Did you think, I mean, when you did you have a girlfriend

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Okay. At that time, so what did you do in Georgia to make them arrest you for what you did on stage? All I did was dance, did a slow dance with a girl. I didn't, it wasn't no simulating sex or anything like that. It was just a dance. Right. In Georgia, Columbus, Georgia at the time,

Lou performing was not allowed. Right, cause the last person to get arrested for that was Elvis. Elvis Presley, yeah. So you had to feel pretty good, like hell, they got Elvis. Sure, they got Elvis, they got me too. So them records though.

Yeah, so how did that help your record sales? That shot my record sales through the roof. Everybody wanted to come see the concert after that. See what everybody was talking about., see what everybody was talking about. What's your fondest memories of Atlanta? Probably the food. Eating soul food all the time. What's your favorite soul food? I'm a catfish and grits type brother.

For breakfast? I mean you're not eating that much. Breakfast. Okay, I was going to say you're not eating that all the time, but they are. No, no, no. My wife won't allow me. Is she okay? You were striding the leg by your girlfriend's ex-boyfriend. How the hell that happened? I don't know.

I was at the wrong party at the wrong time. I just shouldn't have been there. Did you really? I didn't know he was out. Oh, he was out? Oh, he was in at first? Yeah, he was in at first. So how did he know that?

Did she tell him that I'm dating Bobby? No, no, he saw me with her. Oh, and she didn't get your hands up like, you know, I just dated him. She told me to run, I ran. But hold on. I started booking. I didn't know I was hitting till later on.

Yeah, but hold on. When you guys started dating, did she ever tell you, you know what Bobby, I used to date this guy, he might be a little crazy, he inside right now. Unless you make it. No, she didn't tell me none of that. Cause if she told you that, would you have made a different?

I would have chose different. I would have definitely chose different. You would have asked like, okay, when he getting out? When he getting out. Cause then I could base about how much time I actually got. Right. Right. So what's some of the craziest interaction?

Because I used to hear people tell, did you ever have a red Mercedes station wagon? No, I had a blue Mercedes station wagon. Okay, blue. Why you get a station wagon? Because I had these amps and this booming system in it. And it was just, it was just nice and loud. Normally people get station wagons with kids.

This man get a station wagon to put speakers in it. Yeah, I love that car too. Oh my God, I love that car. But I did have a son at the time. You couldn't put him back there with speakers because you had to put speakers in there. Yeah, you're right. Top of the world.

You were one time, you were one of the biggest artists in the world. Did you understand who you were? I had a good idea about it after touring, doing all of the countries that I basically toured from Guam to Singapore to, I mean, everywhere. I went everywhere. And to know that people didn't even speak my language

and they could understand my music and sing along with me, that was something that let me know that you've made it. What's it like touring overseas? I hear a lot of people say for the very thing that you say, they don't really speak the language, but they sing every single word. Yeah. And if everywhere you go is 50,000, they're lining, they're chasing the bus and they're lining the streets just to get a glimpse,

just to take a picture, just to look at you. What does that feel like? That feels wonderful. To know, to be accepted in the eyes of the public and to be adored by millions and millions of fans is the best feeling in the world. You were so big, you even dated Janet Jackson. At one point, yes.

But how did it make you feel when her dad said she couldn't date a man like you? What you mean by that, pops? That's what I was thinking. That's what I was thinking. What do you think he meant by that? Because obviously you're in the music. I was the bad boy.

I was the bad boy of R&B. I don't fault her. I don't fault anybody. Right. Hey, it was what it was for the time that it was. Right. Is it true that you almost signed with Tupac Machiavelli? No, that's not true. That's not true? Okay.

No. What about Irv Gotti? Irv Gotti was a great friend. Him and Jarru had a great time shooting Thug Lovin, but that's another rumor that I was going to sign with Murder Inc. That was never? No. So it seems to me at this point you more want to be independent than be with the label.

Definitely. Would I be correct in saying that? Definitely. So what's your relationship with Ja Rule? He's a a label. Definitely. Would I be correct in saying that? Definitely. So what's your relationship with Ja Rule? He's a good friend. Okay. Yeah. Why is he so misunderstood?

Ja, I don't know. Ja's this Ja. He's a cool cat. I don't know why he's misunderstood. Cause he had some of the great hits? Yeah, he had a lot of hits. Yeah. A lot of hits.

You mentioned Irv Grady who recently passed away. I think he was suffering from diabetes and he ended up succumbing to that illness. What did your people know about Irv? He was a special cat, man. He loved music. He loved seeing people successful. He loved music. He loved seeing people successful. He loved that. He loved making sure that you got your just due.

You got paid. I think for the video, Doug Lovin', I got paid like a million dollars to shoot it. And the top of that building coming off that helicopter was the scariest ever in my life because I'm so afraid of heights that it was just like, I don't think I can do this. And the wind was blowing and it was just all kinds of things going on. And I was just like, I have to nail this first take.

You don't want to do it again, huh? Because I don't want to do it again. So we nailed the first take and I was out. What can our culture, we see Irv was battling that. What can our culture do to take hypertension, diabetes, things of our health? How do we get us to take things more seriously? We have to eat better.

We have to take better care of our bodies. We have to read a lot more on these things that are bad for us. Right. So we gotta really take care of ourselves. I see video you working out. It seems like you're trying to get in front of and getting better, getting better health yourself.

Yes, I am. Is that because of what you, I mean, obviously, you got a beautiful wife, you got kids, but how much is that, I mean, performing and just to be, I wanna be in better health. I wanna see my grandkids. I just wanna be in better health. Right.

Better shape. I wanna be around for a long time. I'm healthy now and I wanna stay that way. I wanna get more healthy, better health. You had a great quote. You said, you don't know you're an addict until it gets worse and worse and worse and you're so far down the road.

You didn't realize you were an addict? Not for a long time. I think I just, I thought I was still partying. Right. But I was in denial. The project, you grew up in the Boston projects. You have seven brothers and sisters. How many bedrooms did that project, that home have? Five. Man, you living good. We lived, we lived, we lived, we lived fairly well. Stanley's laughing. What was a normal day in the Brown household? Mom, pops, seven kids.

Lots, lots of laughter. Lots of laughter. My father was a comedian and my mother used to just tease him all the time. But my father was a hard working construction worker that worked every day of his life. And Friday night, he'd give my mother that check and he'd go out and come home Sunday. Damn! And, that's pretty, work hard, work through Friday, get a check, deuces. Come home Sunday.

Hehehehehehe. I don't think that's going to go well in today's time. Nope. You witnessed your best friend get stabbed at 11 years of age. Yes. What type of psychological impact did that have on you, Bobby? It made me want to get out of the projects.

Okay. It made me want to work hard at what I believed in, which was entertainment. Right. It really made me put the group together and and strive to be the best that we could possibly be. There was also you had to deal with a lot of trauma. You saw your friend get stabbed. There was a situation where you were molested by a priest. Almost. Yes. How did, so let me ask you a question.

How does one deal with situations like this? How does, how does an 11 year old, you see your best friend get stabbed and you have the encounter where you're almost molested by a priest. How does that, the psychological deal with that move forward? What impact does that play in one's life? Makes you not trust a lot, but prayer has always been a part of my life where God has always been like right there protecting me from having to go through the worst of things.

And even when I did have to go through the worst of things, just being able to talk about it and pray about it, I think got me through a lot of different situations I've been in. Having a two-parent household, what did you learn from your parents? Oh, family is everything. Okay.

Laughter is a big part of growth, and just love, how to love somebody. Father, what type of father is Bobby Brown? I'm a yes man. I give my kids everything. I give my kids everything. Do you give, do you try to give your kids what you didn't have as a child? I had basically everything that I wanted as a child.

So giving my kids whatever they want is just, just me just being normal. You know? I don't let them run all over me, but my daughters probably, my daughters, I love them. Your wife's sugar-headed, like, he definitely let them run over him. He definitely let them run over him. How have you tried to improve as a father?

Because you saw your mom and dad live in a house and they made sure their kids had and you saw that relationship. You say you're a praying family, you saw you guys eat together. So how have your parents watching them, how have that helped you become a better parent? I think being present.

Being present in their lives at all times and not disappearing on them. Right. Tell us about your daughter's charity. Your daughter unfortunately very tragically passed away at the age of 22, but you established a charity. Yes. What is this charity and tell people where they can... The charity is called Bobby Christina Serenity House

and we are a safe haven for domestic violence, abuse women and abuse children and men. We have partnered up with Brookview and Sharehouse in Atlanta and in Boston. Boston, and these are places that house women in need for, you know, to get out of their relationships. We do fundraising. We do a charity golf tournament every year, and we do a gala every year. We didn't do the gala this year because of the fires, right? we we felt that it'd be really insensitive of us to try to raise money for

For domestic violence at that time, but you can go to Bobby Christina serenity house org Yeah, Bobby Christina serenity house doc org, but I do it because I've seen too much of it. My daughter didn't have to go the way she went, you know. What the young man did to her is just was unbelievable. I don't want to see any other families have to go through what I've went through or have to bury a loved one ever again. What have you learned about life? I've learned that life is, it's a long road,

but if you stay positive and work hard, life can be so fulfilling. If you can go back, tell your 18 year old self something. What would this Bobby Brown tell his 18 year old self? Don't do drugs. Don't ever do drugs. Yeah, that would be my words to my 18 year old self. You just experimented with it and just tried it?

I experimented with it and then all of a sudden it just became a part of my everyday life. Wow. I'm gonna get you outta here on this. I saw you dancing, you and your family was dancing to the video, Not Like Us. What do you think about that song? What do you think about Kendrick's halftime performance?

Did you like the performance? Kendrick's halftime performance was very, it was interesting. Okay. To say the least. Not Like Us is a song that will be remembered Right. For a long time because of the fact that

it won the five Grammys. Yes. Not because of the beef, but because of the five Grammys. And I don't know if people realize, it's a diss song. Yeah. It's like no Vaseline, it's like ether, nah. Yeah. It's like, get him up, Tupac.

Yeah. I mean, really, I mean, it's, and it might be, it could possibly go down as the greatest diss track ever. It probably will. I mean, you see, he parlayed that, he got an opportunity to perform at the halftime. Bobby, thanks for stopping by. Thank you for having me. Anything you want to promote?

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