Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Claressa Shields Part 2

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/SHANNON and use code SHANNON and get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Shannon Sharpe sits down with Claressa Shields, the world’s best active female boxer and the most decorated woman in the history of the sport. She kicks off the episode in the ring, giving Shannon a hands-on lesson in how to throw jabs, crosses, hooks, uppercuts, and full combinations while breaking down championship footwork, defensive strategy, counters, and the mindset required to deliver a knockout. From there, Claressa takes Shannon through her extraordinary rise. She opens up about surviving a childhood marked by a mother battling addiction, a father in prison, years of sexual abuse, and the devastating loss of her grandmother. Those experiences pushed her into the role of protector for her siblings and eventually taught her to stand up to bullies at school. Boxing became more than a sport—it was her escape, her sense of purpose, and ultimately the force that saved her life after two suicide attempts. Shields reflects on her first and only amateur loss, which came when her coach couldn’t travel with her, and emphasizes how vital strong leadership is in a fighter’s corner. She also shares the moment she became the youngest American boxer ever to win Olympic gold. Claressa talks about the time she had to spar an internet troll, and she revisits how she negotiated equal Olympic pay for women before graduating high school as the first in her family to do so. Her conversation with Shannon expands into her views on trans athletes in women’s sports; her encounters with NBA legends like Kevin Durant and LeBron James during the Olympics; and the challenges of colorism and online criticism aimed at her and Serena Williams. She speaks candidly about pressures to change her appearance, lessons she’s learned about money, and the moment she became the first woman to earn $1 million in a boxing match. Shields then breaks down her transition into MMA, including training with Jon Jones, how the sport differs from boxing, and whether she’d ever consider jumping into WWE. She offers unfiltered takes on Canelo Alvarez, Jake Paul vs. Gervonta Davis, Floyd Mayweather vs. Mike Tyson, Terence “Bud” Crawford’s legacy, and her complicated rivalry with Laila Ali—complete with the $15 million offer still on the table. As it concludes, Claressa opens up about her plans for motherhood and her friendships with Kash Doll and singing with Summer Walker. She dives into the music she listens to before fights, her mental process walking into the ring, the dirtiest tactics she’s experienced, the injuries she’s fought through, her weight-cut routines, and where negotiations stand for her next fight—including conversations with Netflix.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you for coming back. Part 2 is underway. Have you ever been pressured to have cosmetic surgery? This past year with all the judging and all the people trying to say that I'm fat or trying to body shame me or whatever because in camp I got a six-pack and I really cut up and stuff. But then out of camp, I don't mind having a little stomach or whatever.

I don't mind. I don't mind that. But when I see people judge me and saying that I should get stuff done, people that actually get my nose done. I think my face is perfect. But these are just haters. You got to understand people saying this stuff. But with me, I would love to, I heard that when you go and get these body surgeries done, that sometime you go on there, they fix your body up and get the fat off.

and then you come back and you're 30 pounds smaller but you got to let your body heal for months or whatever the case may be yeah and you, me hearing that be like

hmm I ain't got to work out to lose 30 pounds but I can go down a few more weight classes and win some more titles but in my mind is like

I'd rather work it off you know and do that instead of being cut on and whatever the case because I'm really scared of knives and needles

I don't know how I got tattoos but I'm really scared of that so that's the pressure there when they come judging you about your size but I'm happy with my size that's why it doesn't bother me it don't bother me

but these girls be looking cut up they're going to get their abs done now I mean girls don't even work out be having better abs than me and I'm like godly what's going on but then you know you got these filters and everything else and body shaping whatever

and I've always been just a person just to give it to you how it is right you know what I'm saying so I'm going to continue to be like that I just know that for my next fight I'm gonna cut up I'm gonna come So what weight? I believe 175.

175. So you're going to, I mean, or, you only 1.85, that's 10 pounds. Or 168 because they got some girls who got belts down there. You want to cut, so you don't want nobody to have no belts? No, they can have some just, if they call me out, I'm like the boogie woman, I show up. Some girls been calling me out, but I've already called them out before, but they didn't want to fight. But now, I guess they want to fight now.

They got courage now, honey. Liquor courage, I guess, yeah. You're the first woman to make a million dollars from a boxing mat. When you got that money, what was the first thing you did? You buy something specific for yourself? You get something real nice? When I, well, one, just to give you a little history. Okay.

When I lost right before the Olympic tournament in China, I lost the Savannah Marshall. See, God got a funny way of humor because I made my first million beating up who? Savannah Marshall. And I beat her up in the U.K., you're finding 20,000 of her fans in the U.K., at the oh two arena and i made a million bucks left with a black eye but she left with her face marked up no belt you lumped up huh yeah yeah lumped real pretty good but she was a knockout artist too though 13 and oh 12 knockouts whatever i went there and showed her how to how to really fight so with that when i got my first million i think i went bought me a camero a 2002 yeah um

i don't think i spend a lot of money like that i'm more of a saver so i went and bought me a the Camero. I went and got my kitchen re-done in my house. That was in Flint. Well, you were practical. I said you was practical with your money. Yeah, I didn't just like splurred. I've always helped family with this or with that. But I probably spent, I mean, I probably spent like maybe 70, 80K the first month or two. And then after that, I kind of put the rest of the money up. Right. But you know when you get money, you know, that brings a lot, that brings a lot, especially family yeah I come from a family that you know hey I'm very fortunate

that my brother played there's only three three of us my brother me my brother my sister you know yeah you just help induct him in a Hall of Fame right I saw that I saw that but it's hard because they see and then everybody got this idea they got a business they want to open up a business they need X Y and Z I'm like bro so how hard is it how hard is you say no it's not hard now but it was at first of yeah it was very well yeah it was very hard at first because you feel like you want to help everybody and you want to believe in everybody dreams, you know, but it just was like, nah, now I'm saving my money for my future family and also too, so my sister has three kids.

Yeah. And me and my sister are very close to her kids are like my kids. So I got to make sure that I got, you know, college money for them. Right. So when it comes to that, I haven't had my own kids yet, but when I do, they're going to fall right. in line with that and kids are expensive yeah and you want 10 of them no I just want four now you still realize that's still a lot of kids in today's time hey I got a seven-bedroom house 30 minutes from here I think we'd be a right you're trying to put

kids in all of them yeah we're gonna have kids you know one of the kids can be in a room right there next to mine and the other room and the other room they didn't go downstairs another room down there so yeah it's fine I don't mind it but I mean at some point How old are you now? 30. 30. I mean, so at some point in time, you're going to have to start, you know, thinking about like, okay, gloves, hanging the gloves up.

Yeah, but. I don't know. You're going to have babies and then you come back and fight? Yes. I got to get all the fighting out of me before I stop fighting or I'm being in jail. Yes. Like, right now I'm in a space to where I like to still fight. Right.

You know, I feel like in my career, like, yes, I've won. 19 world championship. Yes, I have five different weight classes, sports, I'm undisputed, all this stuff, but it's like it's still some butt out there to get kicked, you know, and it's like I want to kick these girls' butt, and then I think everything I, then I can maybe train some kids, because I'm training my niece right now and my nephew. So it's like I can train some kids and kind of live through them, but right now I'm living through myself, and these girls can get it right now. You tried MMA, you said, MMMA, I had... Tried it. I was good at it. Yeah, but you were two and one. Yeah, yeah, two and one, uh-huh. Would you try it again? Would you go back into it again, or would you go with the boxing?

You're going to stick with the boxing. Well, I made millions to do a job that I'm the greatest at. Right. So I'm not going back to MMA. I want to make it $200K. Which is a lot. Yeah, but... $200K, there ain't more than a million.

And I had to train six months for each fight. So take talking right from my family Just six months Of nothing but groundwork To get ready for one fight Yeah Listen

MMA I give it out to them girls Y'all got it Y'all got it If y'all want to see me Kind of boxing But I went over there And I fought under their rules

I was able to win two fights And I lost one split decision I got me a knockout over there But hey And they got some of the best fans too Right But it's just it's not enough time in the day.

I started training when I was 17. At the same age that you started boxing. Oh, if I started doing MMA training at the age of 11, like I did boxing. Oh, man. What? Is you crazy? I think I would, I always said all I need is two years of nothing but MMA training, nothing but just no, like, no boxing, nothing but MMA training and sparring.

and fighting, I believe that I could win an MMA championship, isn't the PFL or the, or the or the UFC. But I don't have two years to do that. Yeah. What about W.W.E? Would you do W.W.E.? Yeah. Bianca and Jay Carl Gill, them all my girls, baby.

Trinity. Like, I'm in contact with all them girls. Me and Bianca said that we're going to do something one day. Wow. So, yeah, I know that I want to have a life in M&A. I don't know how long. Well, I know that it's possible. I actually have an interview with Stephanie McMahon four days up in New York.

So I look forward to seeing her there and maybe we can get something together. She actually gifted me a WWE built. Wow. I have one in my house. You see a lot of MMA fighters. Connor McGregor, the most noted. I mean, Fort Floyd, $100 million. And we see some of these MMA fighters wanting to do boxing.

because the money obviously ain't no boxing going to MMA under their rules it's a whole different ballgame over there it's a lot easier for a box for an MMA fighter to do boxing I feel like it easier yeah

how big of a payday do you think you can get in women's boxing I know the fight that you won't I know the fact that you won't and you believe you could get 15, 20 million dollars more than that but why you want to beat up now

she's 47 No, I want to get something clear. Like I was telling you from the beginning, you talk trash to me, I talk trash to you, I feel like we should fight. She has said plenty of times that she feels she can knock me out. I'm not skilled enough. I'm not talented enough, whatever, right? And she can feel it that way. But when you say it and you, and then you say it with such conviction.

Right. And you're just, and I definitely knock her out. Right? She can't do this. She can't do that. She's not this. She's not that. All I'm saying is, I think we should prove it.

I don't think it should be a thing of a diss back and forth for it. It's more of a I think I'm better than you. You think you better than me. Well, let's prove it. Somebody got to be right. Somebody got to be wrong. Yeah, and she didn't want said that she would make the fight happen. That she said if the money was there, the fight would happen.

But honestly, too, I got bigger fish to fry them. than Layla, right? But it's more of, I entertained the fight because she said she would beat me. It's not me calling her out because, oh, she's old and all that stuff. It was like, wait a minute. She said she had knocked me up.

She said she better fight her to me. That's what that was. And she said she can come out of retirement and she could do it. So all I'm saying is... It's been two decades of probably shouldn't she fought, right? A decade, at least a decade and a half. Yeah, but when I'm retired,

decade and a half, you're not going to hear me saying how I could beat these young girls unless I'm really to come back out to do it. So that's my thing. People think it's about something else. It ain't about nothing else but that. She said she can beat me. I said she can't. We should fight.

That's it. I don't think it should go. You're anything to keep going back and forth. Are you done with it? Are you done with the verbal sparring? No. I think that I haven't seen the latest. stuff, whatever that stuff is that she did. I heard about it. I haven't seen it. I've been

focused on, as you know, I'm a free agent. And I've been focused on locking in my next deal for my next couple of fights for millions of dollars. I'm trying to lock that in. I've been negotiating with people, anybody you can think of who got boxing money, seeing who's coming with the best deal and the best opportunity for me and my family. So I haven't been paying attention to that. But I've been making a big announcement. that you were, you know, she was a role model of y'all, and then she's giving you some great advice about how to build your brand and things like that.

She posted things, and you were very complimentary of her. You were. And I don't know where the split and the animosity or acrimony or whatever term you want to use. I don't know where it came from. You said that she said that you weren't that. I think you said that. You weren't that scale, and she would do X, Y, and Z,

and she could beat you. Yeah, but like I said, I think a breakfast club interview, they asked her when she came out of retirement and she said, there's no one who inspires me or who will give me a good challenge. So she wasn't just talking about me. She's talking about everybody who's boxing. She's saying, listen, there's a lot of girls there, they're all good, but none of them are good enough to give me a good challenge for me to come back out of Richard Cheney.

But you, right now, you to Michael Jordan the boxing. Well, tell her that. But I wasn't supposed to take that any kind of way. That's what you said. She said that I took wrong. Oh. Which it was like, how can I take that wrong? You said it.

You to LeBron James, I said. Yeah, and you said there's nobody good enough that can give you a challenge to make you. You said, I can't even give you a challenge, let alone be. You said, I can't even challenge you? And I got all these belts. I'm undisputed in three divisions. So back then, whenever that interview was, which was years and years and years ago. That is what started it, and all I did was say, like, if she think that she can just come out of retirement after not fight me, after not fighting all these years and beat me, she ain't for a rude awakening.

Right. And at this time, I loved her, you know what I'm saying? And I had her phone, I had a number in my phone that's big sis-lela. So it's like, now at this point, I'm 30 years old now. I think this beef's been going on since I was 23, 24. Yeah, I think it's time to put it to bed. Y'all ain't going to fly. Well, listen, I'm cool with that.

These other, I got bigger fish to fry, who's actually active, who actually want to get in the ring. Did I say active R.A.? Like, these girls really want to fight. They want to fight. Right. And right now I'm like the cash cow. So you fight against me, you get paid the most money that you ever got paid. Right.

Right. And I'm trying to make the most money. So I don't really care about a fight with me and her. I just caught her bluff when she said the $15 million. I just made sure that we had it and I said, hey, we got it. And then I guess that's what led to this latest thing. People told me that it was a hate documentary. And I haven't listened to it yet.

And I don't think that I am going to listen to it because I have better things to do with my time. But other than that, listen, I ain't got nothing against them, man. I don't. I don't think that she can beat me in a fight. And she thinks that she can. And it ain't ever going to be able to happen because. Because as time goes by, she's getting older. And, you know, you're going to want to sit down.

Now you said you don't mind, you know, you would come back and fight after you have kids. But if she's getting older, she ain't going to be fighting no 50. Question. Yes, ma. Oh, Joe, say, Shannon, I got 15 million for you to fight against me in the ring. What you're going to say to Ocho? It might just be nightcap with unc. But I'm saying, you either got a yes or no.

You don't got all this. But Ocho, but, oh, see. But see, I think the thing is. Who you got beef with? Somebody you don't like. I don't want to say. I don't want to say, but they know. Okay, all right.

So they know. So this person come and say, for free. There ain't going to be no money. They don't need no money. Okay, so this person comes and say, hey, man, I got $15 million for me and you to fight. What are you going to say?

I fight you for $15. $15? Yes. Well, that's how easy I feel like this conversation was. I don't think all the extra stuff and whatever is needed. Right. Who's an exhibition fight that we can get Clarissa to fight? Who in an exhibition we can get so much?

It's hard to make exhibition fights in women's boxing, man. It's hard because you're not going to get a YouTuber who just be fighting on Internet and then she's going to come and fight against me. Right. Because my accolades and who I am. You know, I feel like everybody is out to protect their brand type of deal. So I don't know. I wanted to fight against Amanda Nunes in boxing.

Yeah. I thought that would be a great fight. Yeah. Right? Christine Cyborg. Who? Cyborg. Who?

Who? Okay. Now, let me think about somebody else. Who I think can actually get inside of the ring and like fight. I look at the cross branding of it, maybe a baddie. Some of those girls see fighting on baddies, like ivory, one of them. You know what I'm saying? But those girls.

That can't bang for real. I mean, now who can bang like me in boxing? But I'm just saying, I mean, it's got to be like there's a realistic chance. I ain't saying they can beat you, but it's got to be more than 20 seconds. I mean, well, in that case, I don't know, up in that case. But I mean, it's girls who I think about, like I said, Amanda Nunes. What if we get a YouTuber guy that's not Jake Paul? What if we get a YouTube guy?

Oh, yeah, of course, of course, hold on, sorry, of course, Jake, listen, Jake Park can always get it. I always tell him that. He can always get it. Why would you try to fight a man? He's 200 pounds. Jake, he talked too much. That's why. Listen, Jake Paul knows that I won't smoke with him.

I told him that, listen, listen, me and him could just spar. We ain't even got to fight with no cameras. I just want to show him. Look what I'll do to you, big man. You upset that Javante is going to fight Jake Paul? I'm not upset about that. Do you think he should fight him? Yes.

Get the bag. Get the money. But I always think he should fight against Lamont Roach and Shakor and Tio and Devin Haney. Do you believe Lamont Roe beat Javante? Now, if you count the knockdown, I always say the fight should have went the other way. Yeah. But the fight, if you want to give it a draw, I feel like Lamont took his foot off the gas at the end. So I'm not mad about the decision.

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Like, we had a back and forth probably about a year ago or something like that. But that's like, I've been known him since I was a kid since we were like 16, 15. You know what I'm saying? So it's nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? People think that I got something against Tang. Like, I think when he came in on social media and I came at him, whatever he said to me, I said bad shit back to him too.

So it was a back and forth. But it was more like, as far as it now when I say what I'm saying, It's like, Tank is a powerhouse. He's a great fighter. I want him to find a way to manage whatever is going on up here and live out to his legacy. Who you wanted him to fight? Shikour, you wanted to fight him. Everybody.

Listen, fight Shikor, fight Tiafima, fight Devin Haney. Fight, um. Debrimo Lopo. I think Loma, didn't Lomacheenko retire? Yeah. Uh, I haven't heard that, did he? I think Lomacheco retired. Wow.

I didn't know that. But that's what I want to see. I miss the glory days where the best fought the best. That's what I miss. And I think that if he understands that, he will understand that it's not a thing about me coming at you, bro. It's the thing about me wanting to see the best fights because I'm a boxing fan and I just want to see it. Like, as terrified as I was, as Terrence was going up three-way classes to fight against Canello, I'm like, this is still going to be a good fight because Terrence is Terrence is Trens Cros.

But why differently, though? Exactly. So we're just like, but still, though, that's like. You want to see the best fights. And the best fight is that. That's what the best fight. He said in order for me, in order for me to enhance my legacy, there is nobody else from 154 down that I can fight that can give me what Canelo can get.

And it was a hell of a fight. He was. I love it. Buzz put on the show. He did. He put on the show. But these guys, now the guys are care about the back. They don't care about legacy.

They don't. Because they're not willing to take, they're not willing. Because you know what happened. Floyd. Everybody want to be Floyd. Everybody want to be Floyd. I want to be Floyd, but I want to have my legacy intact too. But they don't want.

Up in women's boxing, you don't make no money unless you got legacy. Right. Like I can talk all this, talk all this trash, call out all these girls and have a big mouth. But with no accomplishments, they're not going to pay you. You got to go out there and get it. So for me, legacy is what pay the bills. Yes. Going chasing the belts, fighting the best competition, that's what pays the bill.

Yes. Like, I believe my next fight deal that I'll be signing is really really, It's really big. It's really big. And it works right now as we, as we sit here and speak. This deal goes through and everything is the right way. I'll be able to say that everything paid off in great dividend, right? I'll be able to say a lot of things about how much I make, my pay, my, how I made it to hear.

But you'll also have a legacy. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So people say that they don't care about legacy. It's like, it's really confusing to me. It's like, bro. They don't. Ryan Garcia has never won a title. Right.

But they think he can, he tried to go around it and he's saying, he's such a great fighter, whatever, whatever. But he's lost, came back, lost again, whatever, whatever. He got a huge following. But it's like, at the end of the day, your hardcore following is the sport that you do boxing. So they're going to start realizing, like, bro, You don't have a world title.

Yeah, you're talking, but you're talking like you're a four or five times champ, but you're not. And you're not. So therefore now it's time for you to go get it. Like either you want to, this whole social media stuff, people got to remember. It's fake. Yes. It's fake. Real life matters, stuff you can touch tangible.

Yes. It matters. So when you got the belts, the gold medals, the accomplishments, when you don't put your hands on a mupt they ass, that matters. That matters, man. So for me, I don't get caught up in an older legacy and who want to, I think that that's to make people not want to trace, not want to chase their dreams as much as they should because people can say what they want, but Floyd, Floyd Mayweather got the legacy and the money.

Yes. He got the both of them. But Floyd, what Floyd did the, the Connor McGregor thing after he became what he became, he wasn't doing it in the prime of his career. I mean, but that's clear as day. It's very clear. Yes. But these guys are willing like, no, you know what?

I'm in the prime of my career. Let me go fight Jake Paul. And look, he's going to probably make more money, Clarissa, in this fight than he'd make him in his next two and three fights. So I get it. But I think the thing is going to do harm to his legacy. Well, he's fought some championships and stuff. But I think it'll be 20 years from now, everybody will be saying, oh, he didn't fight again. He didn't fight against Devin.

He didn't fight against Tiafimo, you know, and. And that will, I feel like, hurt his legacy. But hey, if you say that, it don't matter to him, it don't matter. He's like, look, man, I got, I'm gonna have on them, I'm gonna have mink slippers, I'll be good. So like them girls are saying like, if I'm gonna cry, like, I wanna cry in the beans.

Yeah, actually. Javonte and he's going to fight Jake you think Duvante can beat Jake yeah I think he can't beat him but I think it's going to be a real like circus clownish kind of fight because not like a clown whatever I'm saying I think the fight going to be like nobody can really like punch in the head and judge it because it's like tank is really short yeah and Jake Park got some height on him he's bigger yeah I don't know. I mean, Giovante fights at 140.

1.30, right? Okay, so now Jake Paul is at 210, 215. Yeah, it's crazy out here. It's crazy. But, I mean, the lack of Jake Paul's skill plus his size and with Tank having a skill that he has and his power, it doesn't equalize the fight, but it makes it where it's like, okay, it's not too much of an advantage for, for, for Jake and not too much of an advantage for Tank. I think Tank overall

is the better fighter. He's a way better fire than Jake Paul, but it's going to be a very aqua fight because the size is, like, 70 pounds is a lot. That's like me and you getting in the ring of stuff. Like, I mean, I got my skill to run circles around you up.

Touched you with a stomach a little bit, make you sweat. But it's going to be like, hey, if Shannon catches with that one, and you're out of here. So that's kind of how to. the fight is, it's like, when he, when he get close enough to Jake and he hit him, is it going to be effective? And when Jake just get the swinging and stuff back, what the hell that's going to do? Right.

So that is a very awkward fight. Yeah. The Ryan Garccia tank fight, if the rehydration clause is in there, do you believe Ryan can beat tank? No. No. I don't think Ryan Garcia can be tanked. Rather, the rehydration clause was in there or not.

You know, a lot of people believe, Dale Oyer said he believed that Ryan can beat Tank if they didn't have a real hydration clause. Very interesting. I mean, he posted it like, ain't he signed him? He both said that. But now, Tank, listen, Tank is a bad man, man. I think the only person who I think can beat Tank in a fight is, of course, Stevenson. You think you can beat him?

Yes. He can handle that power? Yes, he can. He got to get hit with that power. Yeah. It's hard to hit Shakur. Yeah, it's hard. But you do realize in order to hit somebody, you got to subject yourself to get hit.

Hey, did you see Shakur last fight with, um... Yeah, well, he made the guy was swinging. Yeah. Hey, but he's still right there in the pocket with him, traded with him. You want to trade with Tank? He want to trade with Tank? If you keep your hands on your chin down and you'd be skillful, but you can't just be out there just chin up and you're not paying attention.

But Shakur is tougher than what y'all give him credit for. Okay. He's very tough. And when I say tough, I don't mean dumb. He's very tough and he's mean. He got dimples and stuff, but Shakora, Shakora smile at you, you feel like, oh, yeah, okay. No, Shakora is like that.

Floyd, you're going to fight Mike Tyson. Yeah, I see that. That's an even more weight disparity. I don't know what's going on about. Because Mike, Mike, you've got to be 2.30. I don't know how this stuff be happening. You know what I mean? But the money.

If it makes dollars, it makes sense. Yeah, so what you're asking me? You like, I'm like, damn, there ain't no women out there that I can fight and get me quick 10, 15 mil? I mean, listen, I'm going to get to the money, but I don't think I'm everyone having. You want me easy to get, I'm talking some easy money. Hey, it's been easy this far But I'm trying to figure out Like, women don't don't do that

Right You know what I'm saying? Even if you offer them a lot of money Like they're like, I'm not about it Like people have to realize that some women Have never, ever been into a fight Yeah, true Like you may see these girls fighting on TV

Or on these shows But it's women who watch them Be like, I would die Before I let somebody Like it got girls who will run You're trying to fight them Like they'll run to their car and lock the door.

Yeah. So fighting is not something that psychologically everybody can do. You're right. And everybody can't deal with an ass open either. No. So that's what I'm saying, like, it's different for women. Like, a man can deal with an ass with them better than a woman. They bring that piece with them.

Okay, well. Ain't nobody taking those ass cut no more. Yeah. Clarissa, guys, it's open. Because the internet. Yeah. The internet makes it forever. See, it used to be a time you could take an ass cut to people tell you about it.

it but now you gotta show it and I'm gonna be a mean yeah you got somebody got the arm all still and they're shaking up yeah no I but that's what I'm saying for me in boxing or whatever exhibition if I not not gonna happen and you know what now that we're talking about Mike Tyson versus Floyd we talk about how when Jake Paul fought against Mike Tyson right and it was like the age disparity like the age different I believe Jake Paul is younger than me. Yeah. I'm 30, what is he, 27?

27. Yeah, somewhere in there. Mike Tyson's almost 50. I think he's almost 60. I think he's almost 60, yeah. Yeah, so with that age gap, when I hear them talk about me versus Layla, I'd be like, hell, we're closer than age than they was. True.

You know, but I don't think that an exhibition fighter or something like that is ever going to happen. Can't happen for women. And especially not for me Maybe some other women can do it You know who's not as threatening as me But I don't think it's going to happen But I'm still going to make a lot of money Regardless of that

Yeah You were at the Bud fight So you got an opportunity to see Bud up close against Canella He put on the clinic He was great He was all the way in or he's all the way out He wasn't in between He'd, hey

He was He was He was he was He was Bud But see Bud has a different mindset that. Bud means for real. Bud has to do it for real. Bud fight.

See, Bud grew up in Omaha and people look at Omaha. No, but Bud was fighting for real. And when I sat down with him in February and he was talking about it, you know, you get a sense. You know, you're sitting across with somebody. And I was like, man, he's like, Shannon, he's not that big. He's wide, but he's not that big. Yeah.

He's not overpower. He ain't like you. Yeah, box the size people up soon as you see him. He absolutely did. Yeah, I do the same thing. I'd be like, oh, can I see? Yeah. Gashed your weight and everything.

Yeah. Boxes are good at that. Yeah. And so when he went out there and he's like, hey, people asking me, can I take a punch? Can he take a punch? Has he ever been in the ring with someone as skilled as I am that can put punches together? Yeah. Hey, I'm here and now I'm gone.

Yeah. And he was in there with Floyd, but Floyd was older than, than, then. that Bud was, they might have been the same age when, no, I don't think, I'll think Floyd was a little younger than what Bud is now. But Bud made it look just like Floyd. He made it look easy. I'm not saying it was easy, but the way he, Canello 168, nobody's ever unified that division. He got that unified. He got it on lock. And what Bud was able to do, as you say, going on three weight classes, I think he proved he's the best in his generation, and Maybe ain't close.

Yeah. Well, for me the last couple of years, Bud has always been my pound number one. Yes. For the last couple of years. You know, it's always been like they say Ussick and Loma and Canello or whatever. I've always said that it was Bud. That it was Bud since a couple years ago. Yeah.

Like when he beat Earl Spence and Earl Spence is a dear brother and I love Earl Spence. I went to Olympics with him. Yeah. When I seen what he did to Earl, I was like, whoa. I saw it too. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. That wasn't even close.

No. But that's the thing. That's when I was like, oh, shoot. So now when I watch Buff him, I watch a whole, a lot of different stuff, and he's really a mental technician. He learns, I don't even want to tell a seeker because I know it. Yeah. I think the same thing with me, though. It's the same thing.

I go in there and I see this and see that, and you let folks get comfortable, and then you just had your way with him. I don't know if Canello would just be able to be. if Canello was just feeling this type of way because he had lost. But he said Bud, the way Bud did him was worse than what Floyd did, and he believed Bud is a better fighter than Floyd. I like when Terrence got asked this, he said Floyd was the best in his generation. I'm the best of the next generation. I love that.

He said that because they both are great fighters. You can't take nothing away from neither one of them. Very different. And Canelo got his asshole by both of them. He did. Now, if you're asking me, who did it worse, I think that Terrance put more power on him than what Floyd did. But Floyd boxed the hell out of him.

He boxed the hell out of him. He couldn't catch him. He couldn't land. And it was a blowout. But it was more of a fight with Terrence Crawford. He tried to stand there, try to punch Crawford. He hit him with some good shots. But Crawford was just...

That's what I was impressed with. And I think when he hit Bud, and Bud, like, I don't be hit harder. Yeah. It's like a light went off in Bud's head. Buzz's like, bro, I ain't going nowhere. Yeah, he stayed right there in his face. I'm not going anywhere. And then that was later in the round when he was right there in the pocket.

And he was like, he was trading with him. I was like, bud, we got this. You ain't got to do that. Everybody said that to me and been fights. Oh, we got this. No, we don't. You don't know what them judges thinking We got to go to 10, 12

No, no, no, no. I'm about to whip As much ass as I can So when that bell rang and everything is over Listen, I know I left it all in there And I piqued you up good That's what you want. That wasn't a 115-112 fight.

No, I thought Bud won 8 rounds to 4. Yes, I said to say I'm being general, I'll say 9, 3, okay, you want to say 8-4? There ain't no way. That's a 3-point fight. No, it wasn't.

But when you got two comparators, it was like, it wasn't just like, I think toward the end you just seen Bud just taking off. Right. Like he stole the fight in the end. You can see Conello just get defeated. When you try to touch Bud glove before the corner, I said, oh, shoot. Yeah. Oh, now he's showing respect to the smaller man. Uh-huh.

And I was, but I was really proud of Bud. I ended up flying down to Omaha, Nebraska for his, for his parade. And, man, the amount of people that came out for him, man, it was, it was great to see it because they were, he's been calling out the best and the biggest names for I don't know how long, and they kept overlooking them, kept overlooking them, kept overlooking them. They weren't overlooking them, they didn't want them problems. Well, the media was painted out to be like he wasn't a challenge, he was too small, he wasn't this, he wasn't that, and he just kept, he kept doing what he's supposed to do, he made the right fight to stay patient, and I don't know, I love that. It's plenty of times where he could have gave up and said, you know what? Later for this. I'm two-time undisputed champion.

Diesel isn't even undisputed man. He could just went on by his career. Now, he has three-division. Three-time, three-way. That's 40, 47, and 68? When Canelo is the only guy that had ever unified the 68. Mm-hmm. That's crazy.

I told him it was crazy. But one thing you got to know, like, a pimental warfare, you got to feed him stuff and see what they grab. I think I saw interview. he was up in um he was in saudi right he was in he was in Riyadh and he interviewed him and he was like 155 I know damn well bud won't 155 so I texted when I see the interview I copied and I said this was a good lie right here but you but you feed on that yeah but I knew bub was bigger than that yes you know I'm saying I knew that he had the cut up he piles himself yeah right so it was like he he he did same thing I did when I went to headway I had

built all the muscle up and got everything proportion right and worked with it and carried it and then I and then I cut down so he did the same thing it's a lot easier going from 185 188 to 168 as opposed to 185 188 to 147 100% 100% and me and I don't think he ever going back down no he not no there ain't who can he fight that now I mean I see maybe Charlo at 60 I seen Jamel Charlo say he wanted to fight it before but he didn't to fight it before now he didn't tick it let me let me let me come eat lunch at your table now bud say no I mean I'm a boxing fan I like to see the fight I think that Terrence a win but I like to see the fight no but I told but I don't know if

you saw the interview what I did with Bud and we was in the ring and we was wrestling and he said man I say buzz stronger than you think I said yeah he's some of yeah he's short he's very strong he's strong yeah yeah he deadlifted like 400 pounds just come on come on straight at the gym yeah that's that's like that's crazy Yeah. I said, no, no, no, no, he's strong. I said, I said, Canello's not going to be able to push him around that. He's not. I see, you look, I say, I understand. He's fought the majority of his career at 40, 47. And I get it. And he's going up the three weight classes that there's a reason why we have. The three weight classes was crazy. I'm not going to lie. That was wild. Yes. I mean, the goal, the goal, I mean, he had just one fight at 54. And he didn't look that good at 54. He won, but he didn't look that good at 54. And the jump 60 and go straight to Yeah. Against that guy?

I think Madrimov was a very awkward fighter. Yes. A very awkward fighter. And as he made the fight awkward, but Taryn still came out on top. I think he won easily, but it was just, when you say he didn't look good, like he wasn't, he didn't look like, yeah. Yeah, like he didn't. Because remember we had just saw him against Earl Spence.

Yeah. So we saw one of his most impressive performance and then followed it up with that. And that's where everybody's like, oh, no, you know, he's never been hit by 168. this guy's fault triple G and he's fault I don't believe in that and Kayla he fought Kayla plant yeah but but is a different animal no he is he but is a sportswoman of the year when you upset people say you were upset the Angel one no I hate people like when they went when they spend narratives that like they really gets on my nerves I think that would mean they want to spend

everything and make it into something negative it was my first time being nominated for the Sportswoman of the Year award with BET yeah and I just thought that I wanted yeah that was it when I looked at who I was who I was up against I'm like oh man the only one I had Olympic gold medals who was up there was Simone Baile so I'm like oh man either she gonna get it or I'm gonna get it right so it wasn't a thing but not to none of those other girls you know what I'm saying yeah um had any of them won from Flage to um to Hmong I think it was Cocoa golf yeah a couple other girls that were nominated I just like the

Olympics way it's harder than anything so when I seen that she won I was I think when I made my tweet it was more like I thought I thought accolades would matter in this but once again that was my first time going to the BT Awards and being there and being invited so I thought like okay they see in my hard work they see what's going on I'm gonna get this award but it's not knocked to Angel Reese I love I like what she doing I posted her on my page before when you go to Victoria's Secret she is killing it he walks the Victoria's Secret.

I've seen her. I mean, that's what you said. You said, you know, you got it like that. I mean, I got a body. I got a body, you know what I'm saying? But the way that she walked in the hills, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to have to get some practice. I'm going to get some practice.

But sometimes when your butt's too big and it gets to doing what it's doing, you may. I don't know if you could like, you could throw it like that because you might go out. My book way bigger than anything. That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. So I would have to try to get my. I think she said, walk so spank, make a whole mad or something she said.

I said, just grow crazy. But. Because the actual Victoria's Secret models, they like, like the cold right here. They skinny. Yeah, yeah, very, very petite. But I mean, I'm sure I could do something like that. But the first thing I want to do first is I want to do a sports illustrator swimwear. You want to do the swim suit?

I want to do that. I want to do that first. And then work my way and everything. No, we're going to get that out there. We put it out there. Yeah. 2026. Yeah. Sports Illustrated. Clarissa Shield said she wants to do it.

Make me the cover, baby. You mentioned like on social media. You hate when women say things because, you know, they tag you in it. So obviously you're going to see it. Yeah. What happened? But Clarissa, at this point in time now, you've been at the game long enough to like, no, they're trolling. They rage baiting you. Um, I think, I think a lot of folks on social media is jealous and envious and just mad. But once again, I'm practicing my trash talk with them. So when I be responding to them, sometimes I'd be like, let me see what this makes someone I'm saying. Let me see what, so I might go back and forth with them, but trust me, that's after practice, after I've ate, when I'm just in my bed laying down.

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Ignoring it. Ignoring it because it's like, I got better things to do. but sometimes we're like oh no she didn't come with that if it works with women on social media than it is with men the men love me on social media rather that's because of boxing because of how i look my shape um my confidence men love that right i don't know what they got to these women but they are the problem they're the listen they are a complete problem i'd be like yo i thought we were in this whole me too and women stick together yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah You know, uplifting.

Yeah, and it was like, I don't know, once you get, once you get to a certain level of success, all that changes. Like, I understand why Beyonce don't be, she don't be close with nobody. Beyonce, listen, you don't get a peep about it. Listen, when I get to that level, they're going to wish I was talking to their ass. Yeah, your, Beyonce, you either see her with hold or you don't see Baker. You see on stage, but she don't, you know, I mean, she got all these fathers. I don't think Beyonce, the only time she might put up... I think she fathered one person.

Oh. Man, like, but it's just like, she's so, she's so great. Like, she can dance, she can sing, she can rap. She's up there. Yes. She just be like, mm-mm. So I'll be there one day. I'm working on it.

I wonder how she can't be. I don't even think, you know what, she might have somebody. She don't even got social media on her phone. And her team don't even bring it to her. Sometimes I deleted it off my phone. I get rid of it, especially when I'm in camp. Yeah. You know, because they just make up stuff and they make you go viral for stuff that don't got nothing to do with nothing.

Like I went viral one time for eating a tomato and asking them, it's a tomato or fruit or a fruit or a vegetable. And I'm sitting there biting and enjoying my food and all of a sudden I get online. It's on all these different blog sites of me chewing and eating a goddamn tomato. And it just was like, I don't want to go borrow for this. Oh, yeah. I think they call it a fruit, though. A tomato? I believe it is a fruit, but we consider it a vegetable.

Because it's not that good. You're not just going to bite to a, like an apple. But, no, I think that just with social me, like I said, it takes some time to get used to it, but you do need to detox from it. And I detox a lot more now than what I used to. But the negative comments, they say about your hair, say this about your clients. Oh, that's just haters.

You know, they're just haters. I mean, they are going. So they expect you to go to the ring? They expect you to go to a fight with a face full of makeup, with lashes, hair done like it is. Is that really how? Stupid. Is that really how they expect you to come to the ring? Camera right here?

Yeah, that's dumb. I'm going to go to the ring with my queen Latifahs, my braids with the blue hair for Flintwater Crisis, have my hair wrapped on the, and no, no edge control, no edge of you. no edges going to edit control dripping your eye yeah you're gonna take a knee like Bivonte no he said it was what it was that what he said I'm just saying I don't want that yeah yeah right I'm not gonna get away with that they're gonna they're gonna take a point for me that tank you know he used the road with Floyd so he can get away with that yeah I'm not getting away with that so therefore when I get in the ring I'm I walk

I arrive at the fight with my dress and my heels and my little cute stuff but soon as we in the locker room. I grab my makeup wipe and I wipe it all off. Right. Eyebrows, lashes, edges. I wipe it all off. Take the wig off and everything. It's time to fight. Yes. I'm not ever going to let an enhancement stop me from performing my job. My job is the whoop ass. But see, they forget that. See, they see you like this and they don't think you can fight though. I don't know why I think that because I take my shirt off, baby. I scare everybody in here. Hold on. I take my shirt off. I take my shirt off. I'll scare everybody in here. Hold on. I take shirt off.

Let me show you something. I take my shirt off in here and show you what my my, hey. Watch it now. They don't want the problem. You know how you look at somebody you see like, oh, I think I can take them.

Yeah. But you know, I don't think these, listen, if they think that, go do your goddamn homework. You better look up, Correst and Schills. And the first video that pop up is me, is me dropping a girl, putting a girl on her back. You need to look. Look me up before you think that, please. I would hate to get tried at the club with a dress.

No, you can't do that. Your hands are a deadly weapon. You can't fight in the street. Who told you that? God, you can't. You're going to go to jail. Listen, I have the right to defend myself. So nobody can't mess on me?

I'll mess nobody. But can't everybody just walk up and just slap me and then none. No, but your hands are a deadly weapon. You are a professional fighter. Yes. And I can defend myself. Ain't nobody go just walk up on you a hit you. You never know.

We're in a weird world today. They wear it out here. And then you said when they see me all dressed up, I can't fight. So they see me like, oh, she can't fight. She blocked me on line. I'm gonna walk up and hit her. No, you're not. And then you ain't gonna be rumbling no heels.

Who? I can fight in whatever shoes I got. Heels, boots. Is she crazy? Listen, don't ever try me. I'm looking at the camera again. No. Don't ever.

No. Don't ever, I don't want to engage in that. I don't. We don't want people. We don't want people to try to walk up on them. Oh, they're not. Good. Listen, I got a face that.

Look, it's like, come and be friends with me. Come be nice. Come be friendly. Now, if you decide to be something else, that's on you. But I am a, I don't need, I am a disguised killer. You say you want to have a child in the next year. Is that still true? Yes.

Mm-hmm. Damn. Well, you better help me get this fight out the way. I'm going to have a few fights before this, before that. You do know how, like, I mean, fights, I mean, like every four, five months, right? Well, it can be three, it can be four, it depends on what you need. Mm-hmm. So you're trying to have, you're trying to have at least two fights before you welcome a child.

Before I start the process of a child. Mm-hmm. All right, I'm pretty sure you're practicing now. You just, you know. Practicing? Yeah. No, I ain't trying to have no hiccups. No, I'm trying to make sure we do this stuff in order.

Yeah. So, yeah, I want to get these fights out the way. And like I said, it's really a big thing to me to make sure all the fight is out of me. Right. Because once I get pregnant and have a baby and all this stuff, when I come back, I'm going to fight some more, right? Yeah. But it's like it's some girls who need to get got like yesterday. Right.

So you want to make sure you want to make sure you at your apex to get them, go ahead and get them out of the way. Yeah, yeah. Get them out the way. And then when I come back, you know, if I need a year or I need two, I can get myself back in shape, fight some more and, you know. So you look at Rihanna, Beyonce, Serena. Who? What's the first name? Oh, Rihanna.

Yeah, I love her. Yeah. Beyonce had had Blue Ivy and she had the twins. They had the twins, Serena, Olympia, and win a championship. I mean, she was pregnant at the time. I think she went to Australia open, and she was pregnant at the time. Oh, Jesus. And come back.

Is that some of your inspiration? You're like, okay, I see women that have had kids and come back and continue their careers. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I feel like when I'm carrying, I'm going to be in the gym working out still because I don't want to lose everything that I got. Like your complete body changes, but I don't. I don't want to gain too much weight. Right.

I don't want to not use certain muscles for a long time. I've been building it since I was 11 years old, so they can't rest a whole year. Right. Like, I need to make sure that I still keep my hands sharp to stay in shape. So I believe that once you do that, you can come back, and I heard that it's easier to come back if you work out while you're pregnant. Oh, yeah, for sure.

You walk into the ring with Cash Dog. Yeah. She's Michigan. She's from Detroit. You're from Flint. What's your relationship with cash? I love Cash Dow. Like, she's a boss, she's a boss bitch.

You know, she like nice stuff and classy stuff. Like, I like CashDow. And, you know, she's about, Cash Doll, she whoop your ass too. Like, Cash doll is about, I like her. Listen, when I reached out to her, and I was like, yo, you know, walk me out, you know, walk me out to my fight, and she was like,

girl, we're going, we're going to tear him up, blah, blah, blah. It wasn't even like, it wasn't even hard to make happen or nothing. You know what I'm saying? Like she came. I'm with it. And when we both walked up there and she started rapping, I'm talking about they went crazy. It was about 11,000, 12,000 fans. I just remember it being like, it was my biggest fight at the time.

I'm like, oh my God, all these people are. It was just great that she came. We did our big one together and I can't think cashed out enough. Right. Yeah. She's now in a very public relationship as you are with Zadarius. with your guy, Pap, when you decided to get into this relationship with Pap, was it your intention for it to become public or were you trying to keep it as secret as long as you

possibly could? Because you know, if you date publicly, Clarissa, you know, you gotta break up publicly. Yeah, ain't that sad, huh? Yeah, it is. So honestly, with my thought process, I had just been engaged prior to being with Pap. So at the time, you know, me and him, I broke up and got back together a couple times. The guy I was engaged with. So now we finally called to quits.

When I got with Papp, you know, another celebrity, it was already big enough being just with a guy who wasn't a celebrity. Right. And everybody being in my business. Yeah. Now I went another celebrity. And like you said, I wanted, I didn't know how it would work out because, one, I was against dating celebrities. Wrappers, NFL players, NBA. I heard that they're dogs.

and I'll whoop a dog's ass Oh, Lord, how do you want to fight? I don't play this stuff. You can't fight your boy, but you can't fight your boy or friend. Everybody ain't meant to be fault. I don't play this stuff. Just move on. You ain't got to fight it before you move on.

Listen, why I'm going to let a grown man play with me for? Oh, God, God, I'm saying. When the women get emotional, that's when they start doing all this crazy stuff. So you hurt my feelings. Yes. And you hurt my pride. Oh, you got, you're going to have a problem. You told me that.

you've broken up with every guy that you've been in relationship with. Yes, so I just leave him. Okay. But I'm saying. But they did something to let you leave you. I don't want to get played publicly, though. Like, come on now. Yeah.

Come on. Like, that's why I'm like, celebrity men, I was, it was offering him. It's Papp is special. Pap is special. Like, that's a different type of man right there. You slid that man, DM, did you? Man, come on. I hate, I hate Gillian Wallow for that.

Gillian Wallow full of crap. I invited Pap to a fight. Mm-hmm. I saw him after the court fight. Yeah. When he fought against, I forget the guy name, it was July 6th, but I saw him there, we took a picture. I didn't really know much about him, you know what I'm saying?

I knew of his name, but I didn't like, that's like before my time a little bit. You know what I don't really know, like, that he was a rap legend. I knew he could rap, but I didn't know he was like rap legend. I didn't know. How you find him on IG, you ain't know nothing. No, when we're at the fight, he walked to me and said, hey, I'm Papoose, and he shook my hand. And then we, and then we got a picture. He said, he said, he said he was a fan of me already.

Now I said, okay, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. No, I didn't. I didn't say that. But no, when I invited him to my fight. What you invited him to your fight for? So come see me fight.

You need, you need celebrities in the building. I would invite you. You didn't invite me. Well, you don't answer your DM superstar. All I know is that, I got a DM. I got a DM from, I think, 2018, 2019. You didn't even rest. I just saw it like the other day.

I know, but I'm saying, like, had you responded, I would say, hey man, I'm fighting XYZ, if you want to come to my fight, you should come and you should bring, at the time you was with Skip. Yeah. I would say, me, bring you when, you went to the fight. You could have came on undisputed and helped and fail the fight. Yep, but you want to open your DM. Oh, man.

See that? But you know what, God's time is the best time. Yeah. No, so look, when I, first of all, I didn't slide in the pap DM. He's full of crap. He made a papsin? He said, well, boom, I saw him at the fight, we should have canceled, but watch the court fight, whatever, whatever.

I did my media, I'm after the fight. He waited on the side with him and his cousins, and then after he asked me for a picture, we got a picture. Okay. We got one up in his phone, we got one up in my phone. Okay. I sent him the picture that was in my phone because I don't know. How you sent him the picture?

To the DM. Oh, you sent the picture to the DM? I thought you said it to his phone. Uh-uh, I have his number. Oh, okay. I sent him to the DM. Okay. And when I sent him, I said, hey, and about,

away I'm fighting in two weeks yeah so if you want to come to my fight it's in Detroit blah blah blah you just come out and I said just just let me know if you want to come I gave him my public's number and said hey reach out to my publicist and she'll make sure that you got your everything taking care yeah yeah you know that's good from there um he we end up exchanged the numbers between each other right just on like I put him in a group text hey crystal this is pap blah blah blah blah blah blah and he can come to the fight. And she said, okay, I got it because I didn't like dealing with no tickets

and nothing like that for the fight. Right. Right. So boom, from there, as I'm getting ready for the gym and I'm working out, because it's two weeks before my fight. I get texting in the morning and say, hey, good morning, champ. And I'm like, huh? I'm like, hey, what's up? And he's like, what are we eating this morning? I'm like, hell, I'm eating egg whites and spinach. What did you eat? He eating a blueberry muffin. I said, yeah, we definitely not eating the same. Right. Like, don't even text me and tell me you eat the blueberry muffin. I ain't had no bread in months. And so he's like, oh, you working out today, woo-woo. So we would text, you know,

just a little bit. Then I probably went three, four days without without texting them. And then he texts me again, hey, champ, blah, blah. And we, and we, me and pap was really just friends at the beginning, like true friends. I didn't even, didn't even invite him to the after party after the fight. Because I wasn't, you know, we was cool. You weren't feeling like that, though. I wasn't so that. I wasn't feeling like that. I said I wasn't feeling me it was more like I it was like a just a friend oh baby no it was like a it was like a crush but I didn't know if I liked them because it was like I'm so focused on my fight so

focus on what I got to do okay but then after the fight yeah you know more text and all this stuff we probably text about a month and a half before we ever even talked on the phone he came to the fight in the back wish me good luck everybody was surprised about the fight blah blah like he it was that's the best relationships when somebody is just your friend just your friend and he is a so when do you come to the realization say hit the man like me he asked me on a date he asked when i was coming to new york all them taxes you didn't get nothing from all the man doesn't text you for a month and a half so i mean he did he called me cute one time or me a couple times and you know he would compliment me

he liked my pictures on instagram but i just was like oh he liking your picture on instagram and you ain't thinking nothing i mean it's not like me all the other guys that like your picture on instagram you ain't texting them what you eating just you're eating just you're eating at you It's not a lot of men who I feel like don't like me if I'm being honest. Okay, yeah. But you ain't texting me? Yeah, I don't talk to people like that. I don't.

But you're talking to him like that. We was, I'm telling you, we were just friends, but I knew that it was something. I knew, I knew it was something. You know, maybe I thought he was cute or maybe. I was just trying to get you to say it. It's never just, there's always a reason. You don't get in your car just to sit. You got to stop when I gave me.

You go to the gym, you go to them whole food. You go to you're going. to shopping. I invited him to the fight. And after that, we were texting and texting and texting. And it was really great conversation. I shared some of my raps. He shared his rap. I didn't even know not. I didn't know any of. And when I heard him rap, I said, this is my new favorite rapper because my favorite rapper before him was McMill. Okay. So when I heard Pat rap, I said, oh shit, this dude is this dude cold. Okay. So I started following his music. And we just was going back and forth, but like, I don't know if it's like, maybe I'm not really, maybe I wasn't good

at flirting at the bit at that time because I wasn't trying to flirt. I knew at the time I was leaving my last relationship, I knew I was done with that. And I, and I tell my best friend, I said, listen to listen to time. You're like, I don't want to jump right back into something. Yeah, but I ended up jumping right back into something. Oh, you did, huh? Yeah, so it don't matter. Damn, that was quick.

Yeah, about a month. For somebody I didn't know, somebody I know I didn't like. I didn't like them. I didn't say that. I said that when I invited him to my fight, I didn't know like it would be what it is now. No. Well, I mean, so what did you hope that had come of this

with all the texting you two were doing? I texted and you were doing. Yeah. Pint pal? It wasn't like he was in jail. He needed somebody. No, I mean, well, one for me, a lot of people always like me is me not liking them.

So it was more of a thing. Like you ever seen a girl who just, just fine as ever she's she bad and then soon she talked you'd be like oh no that that that's that's that that that's not the one for me okay so for so for me I'm always guys always trying to talk to me trying to talk you know trying to how like me so it's more of once we started being friends but you're so picky you don't want nobody famous you don't like no athletes you don't like nobody in the public so damn yeah yeah but it's nothing wrong with being picky though no it's nothing wrong But I know that for me that if I do text you and I do entertain you, it's something.

If I do feel something because a lot of times I don't really be feeling nothing. Right. You know, so I felt something with Pap and I mean, it was, it was quick. Like once we went out on a date. Would you go Chief Cape Factory? No, we went to, I think, let's call cornbread up in New York. What's the name of it? Cornbread?

I ain't know. Cornbread. Nice. Soul food? Soul food. I love soap. You go, what did you get? Smother pork truck?

No, I don't eat no pork. You don't eat no pork? No, you eat pork still? We ain't 2025. Everything except the squeal. No. No, I don't mess with, that's why you buffed like that damn pig. No, I had, I had me some fried chicken, yams, mac and cheese, and greens.

Was it good? It was great. Fried chicken, mac and cheese, yams, and greens. Caligreens. It was great. They didn't have no ham ham ham ham, in the collard greens, no turkey necks? No, no pigtails.

No, you know, stuff with no pork in it. You got to stop. Man, you gotta stop. Do not eat pork. Man, you ain't never had a small pile of collard greens with a bunch of pigtails in it. Pig tails, your family, that's laughing, they don't. Pig feet, I don't have it all.

I'm not eating it while I'm wrong. You ain't it no more? Chitlin's I'm not eating them all. It's over. It's been over with for years. Well, I'm going to eat your share of pig tails. So I don't mess with no chitling. Yeah, so just to get the story right, me and Pap was friends.

We love each other, and we're growing us somewhere. You need to stop. No, we was. And now he's my best friend now, and he's my man. And we have a great time. You have a great time together? He was, he just left this morning. Damn, I thought he was going to come.

He'd be having to move around. He's a little bit more than I'm saying. But for me. That works for you, though. Could you have a man up under you all the time? Nah, I can't. Not going to be all the time. But I know it's 24 hours in a day.

Yeah. So I can get my work out the way and do what I got to do, and then we can be together. So, yeah. Well, I guess that's what it's going to have to be because you have kids, y'all going to be together. So, so I'm just saying like, you go work out, he go work out, you y'all do different type of workout. You come home, he there, you know, have you a smooth, have you, your juice ready to go, food ready. I got it, I got a cook for that. You got a shell?

Yeah. Damn, old big baller. Somebody got to do it. Yeah, somebody got to do it. I might have to start fighting. I saw you on stage with someone Walker, uh, rapper, uh, rapper, host. What was that like? Okay, so they reached out to me and said that, you know, I sang her song on a 20 versus one

when I was up there with a bunch of guys and they were all, I had to pick who I wanted to be with whatever the case may be. And they, a guy asked me, could I sing? And I said, yes and he told me to sing and I sang it so from there it went viral of me singing and now at now at her concert she had people sing that same song right so she was like she wanted the originator to come and sing so I was in Atlanta I came they and they had tickets for me and when it was her segment she bought the mic up to me with funny micro right there he said he was going to share mic I said you was not for the mess of my singing funny marcos I'm awesome oh I'm gonna sing some of you sing some I said what's told to me no I grabbed out mic and sang my little

He was right there rocking back and before like he was going to sing, but it was a great, it was great to have that. And I'm really shy to sing in front of people. That's what I was about to ask you. I mean, I mean, singing in your home or in your shower or in your kitchen, it's different to sing it in front of 10, 15, 20,000 people. It was about 30,000 folks there. What? Because it was really the, I believe Chris Brown was performing. Okay.

He was the head. She was just kind of underhand. him. So yeah, it was very nerve-wrecking. But I had been practicing until I had got there. I had my tea and my honey. So I said, yeah, I'm about to go out here and I'm about to kill this. And I did my thing. It's fun. Getting ready for a fight, what type of music are you listening to? Are you listening to something to get you crunk? Roy Jones can't be stopped? Is this the day of the fight? Yeah, day of the fight. You're in the dressing room.

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So I only listen to me to like tour, like the last five, three minutes before we walk out, I cut the music off and just kind of gather myself. If you could have anybody walk you to the ring, who would you have? Beyonce. I know you're going to say, P. Hey, listen, I don't know. Beyonce walked me out to fight. My life is complete.

I always say that. Beyonce, like that would be like the dream, the dream. And you know, she can pick a song. But if she want to come out to diva, who? We run the world, girls. She want to come out to this ain't Texas, whatever, whatever she want to come out to. You're going to come out to country? It's Beyonce.

You don't tell Beyonce no to nothing. It don't even matter. She want to come out to bills. I don't care. Beyonce come. I'm going to be like, yes, yes, yes. Have you had any injuries? Have you sustained any injuries?

Preparing for a fight, you know, shoulder, elbow. Yeah, yeah. I'm so, because it's like you, when you're training, when you're prepping, you know, lost days of training sets you back. So one day of missed training is like three, four days. The injuries that I've sustained, I have still

fought with them. And after the fight, I take care of the injuries. You know what I'm saying? I do what I have to do to get through the fight. As most fighters do. And after that, I have to do it. And then I see how serious it is. Like, I don't really know how serious an injury is leading up to a fight, because I

kind of ignore it, unless it's just like really crazy. But I did have one really crazy two two two fights ago a frozen shoulder so my arm couldn't it was just froze here i couldn't lift it up i couldn't do nothing with it it it just was frozen here and i had to go and um get one of those shots to take the information down i had to ice it yeah it was it was a lot to get done for this fight to go through it happened a week the week before the fight and that was with daniel perkins so with that like i said you're making over a million You know, you got to sold out, you got a sold out being you.

I'm sorry, but in women's boxing. We can't post on them. You can't call off fights like that. I'm sorry. You just never know when you want to get another opportunity. So I don't blow opportunities. So with that, I fought through that, won unanimously. And, you know, made sure I did the work the next fight.

And then I'm doing the work now, you know what I'm saying? Letting this stuff heal. Just nobody's supposed to do anything too much. You run too much, you have legs. problems you punch too much you get torn stuff like it is what it is you just have to make sure you the proper um recovery and everything to it and then go from there so cutting weight you know you see people go through drastic measures they're not eating they're not drinking water they're getting the sauna they're just you know they can't i mean all they can do is just basically somebody

has to help them to get to the scale way and then try to get food try to get fluid back in you How difficult is that for you? Because like you said, now, you know, you walk around and you say 185, 180, 185, and then you drop it down to 170, that's not that much. That's nothing. No, that's not. But when you get down to 65, well, you got to get down to, what, 54 you say? 54.

That's a lot. Those are tough, especially when you've been fighting at a bigger weight class for a long time. So I've been that heavy weight almost a year now, a year and a half. So going down to the weight classes could be, it's not that easy now. Right. You know, I've got different muscles and everything. Yeah. Losing the weight is all about sacrifice and having you a team.

Some people don't have teams. I have a whole nutrition team. I actually try to eat healthier now even just inside my home when I'm not in camp. Right. I got food in my bag. I got me like some baked chicken, some rice, and some spinach in there. You had that in the bag. I ate that.

What? Yeah, I ate that for you. You're ridiculous. You were hungry. I was hungry, I was hungry too. You had some baked chicken. get some spinach in there. I left the spinach with the baked chicken. Why would you eat the spinach? It's like Popeye.

Mm-mm. I ain't want to be like Popeye. He couldn't see out of one eye. Oh, Jesus. But no, so I'm trying to get better now with like the shift at my house and eating better just outside of when I have to have camp because when camp starts, you know, that's like eight, ten weeks, sometimes six. It's like you want to make sure that you don't have to spend a whole camp just focusing on losing weight. Right. You can actually focus on like the actual fight the stuff you got to do and you don't want to have to be running every like i think that that's what killed a lot of these fires like they run run run run and sonna sonna and before you know it you just like you don't there really is no fight left in you even after you

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I know other girls who do it the day of, the day before they, like they be having their little sex and stuff. Me, I'm not doing that. For me, what is it, little sex stuff, whatever y'all want to call it, that makes me feel really relaxed and really calm. Yeah, and you don't want to feel calm. No, when you got a pit bull on your ass, you want to all to run. You got to be able to get that, you got to be able to run. No, like, it really does take something out your legs to me. So it's like six weeks, maybe that's why I'd be so mean and angry.

Yeah. Because six weeks without none and then you just got to go in there and fight. But, hey, I feel good. I'm in my millions. I feel better being healthy. I feel a lot stronger and not doing it. Okay. Not doing it.

So how do you, with that trial and error, did you have to know whether the situation like, man, I feel sluggish. Oh, now that ain't happening no more. I just didn't feel, ugh. because a lot of times as an athlete it's trial and error what works to be how much to train how much to live how much to run how much to eat

what the thing how much sleep do I get all of it's trial and error and then you fine tune it and you get it down to the side yeah you find what works for you yep um well unlike other people I didn't I didn't start doing that stuff until I was 17 okay after I won the Olympics so before then I never even fooled around anyway

right okay so now that I'm grown or teenage or whatever you want to call it. Now, you know, I'm in a gym constantly every day too. So coach wants to spar two or three times a week. So I realize that when I come to the gym and I've been doing that grown people stuff, I'm being managed.

I'm a bit more tired. Yes. You know, I can't fight as hard. And guess you notice it? Coach. He noticed it. He's like, hold on what you did last night? Yeah, coat. And so, like I said, Jason used to call me out in front of everybody because I was like his daughter. So he called me out.

Oh, R.S. You look like shit today. You've been out there fooling around. I could tell. You need to stop doing all that. Damn. Put your business out on blast like that? Yeah, Jason was like that. Oh, my goodness. And at the time, it was very embarrassing because it was like, this is new to me. Nobody even know I do this stuff. Right. And here you win, everybody in my business. But, um, no, I just know, like, I just know, like, He was right, though. It does make you sluggish and tired, and I feel way more sharper when I'm not. And for me, I spar against men getting ready for fights. Okay.

So it's like, these men come in here fast and strong and sharp. I got to be on my A-game, and the last thing I want to leave me is my damn legs. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I'm like, mm-mm. I don't really fool around like that. When are the next fight? Okay, so my next fight is supposed to be January 24.

Okay. At past state farm here in Atlanta. Okay. Possibly the opponent is Franchion Cruz, but I'm re-signed to my promotion with Salida Promotion slash win, and I'm being paid $8 million. Wow. Yep. And that's just in a couple of days. Once we get paperwork done and everything, yeah.

That's what I said. It's really big. It's really, I don't know, I feel very proud that I was able to get this offer. I've been talking with some of the biggest promotions out there, MVP, matchroom, Salita, you know, talking to everybody trying to get the best deal. And now that my stardom has grown so much now, and now I can actually, you know, the quote gets paid. Yeah. If someone would, if we, if movies, they come say, you know what, we want to do a movie about Carricia Shield's life.

We did one already. I want another one because now you're all this time champion. Who would you like to play you? Oh, Lord. See, honestly, maybe I'm biased, but Ryan Destin played me so good, why I do it again. But if I had to pick somebody else, I know who my audience would want to play you. Angela Bassett? Who? Kiki.

Kiki Palmer. Well, she, Kiki Palmer played, listen, I'm not going to lie. I thought Kiki was going to play me for the first one. For the biopic. So when I came back and they said it was around destiny, I was like, okay. No, but it's not that she's not a good actress. It was just like, she's small.

Yeah. She's tiny. Yeah. Well, Kiki is small and tiny too. But I mean, I see some. But she's played more sports and she kind of reforms her body or whatever. So I was I was like I don't know how she's gonna how she's gonna play me but man when I said that girl got on the diet Was drinking protein drinks and everything Ryan did it she did her thing on the fire inside

But for my next one yeah a Kiki Angel Bassett Um What didn't they cover? What didn't they what didn't they cover in the first that you would like to get covered this time? Would you like it so obviously they take the beginning stages so now you're you're at a different place in your life now the relationship? now, the relationship, potentially kids will be in the mix. So is that something that you would want to get covered this time around? Yeah. Yeah, I want them to actually cover the grown woman that figured it out.

You know what I'm saying? I think that from my documentary that was a long, long time ago, T-Rex, they released that when I was 19. Okay. And so it's an hour and a half documentary where they actually followed me around and whatever. So now until the fire inside came. came out, okay, basically from the documentary, like they, it left people like, yeah, she won an Olympic gold medal, but she's still living in Flint, still poor, blah, blah, blah.

And that carried on until the fire inside came out, but I've been, won the Olympics again, been moved out of Flint, been, lived in Florida, Colorado, now I'm here in Atlanta. I had already, you know, started getting my life together. Yeah. Had bought me a house, cars, bought mama a house, bought daddy a place. Yeah. I did all this stuff but it was like none of that none of that was in the original so now you want that side to be shown as well yeah to show that like this is what actually happened like even now people don't know like the relationship with me and my first coach we still talk here and there he comes to my fight he's supportive um but that's still like my dad you know and every relationship is not like father daughter it's not really close but I know that if I call him and I need him he's there you know what I'm saying so with it difficult to split Yeah.

Because be the only coach you had known. Yeah, and for me, that's why I don't think I have a lot of friends because I don't want to be friends with you and then we fall out. Like, it really hurts my feelings. Like, I don't like betrayal. I don't like this loyalty. So for me, it's like, if I take you in as my friend, let's be friends and let's be good friends to each other. I don't like, you know, we live in a world where it's just faith.

fake, you know, oh, somebody that was your best friend that's going around, telling everybody your business and spitting on your name and all this stuff. It's like, I don't like that. Like that made me want to fight somebody, for real, for real. Well, everything may want to fight somebody, don't it? It does, damn. But that really, like, when it comes to that,

it's like, dang, you're going to hurt my feelings and make me trust you and make me care about you and then just get to being fake and stuff. Like that really, really bothers me. So I'd be kind of like this with that salute. So me and Jason not separating about a young age and not training together anymore. It was very weird because I felt like I was betraying them

by getting me a new coach. He was like, dang, but I was professional. So I'm like, I got a fight in eight weeks. I ain't even got time to fix this relationship. We got to fight. Right. So it's like either we're going to do this fight and kind of ignore whatever we're going through

or I got to go to this new coach and figure this out. And then maybe we come back. But it was just like, at the beginning of my professional career nobody had time to do that I was fighting back to back to back this belt that belt this belt

this champion that champion there was no time to worry about oh you're upset you're mad you want to talk with me it wasn't it wasn't no time for that it was like I gotta you gotta get it while the getting is good

you know so that was how I was you mentioned earlier that you spar with men you don't spar with women No, no. What? I got to really see what I got. I got to work my stuff. So it's like with the women, sometimes you hit them too hard or they contact your personal.

It's like when you sparred against the men, you come out there and you show them what you got, they show you what they got and y'all can actually, you know, work. You sparred with Earl and Errol Spence and Shakur. Uh-huh. I sparred Earl Spence, Shakur, Boots, Kishan Davis. Damn. Yeah, I spark a lot of them. I'm trying to think who else was a spark. I sparred a lot of guys.

It's guys who are professional now. Of course, you know, like the first guy, Ardrae Holmes, that was the first boyfriend I had. We sparred all the time. One of my biggest sparring partners. I started against a lot of men. I mean, I can't even name everybody. Kenneth Sims, he's getting ready for a world championship, and he's been fighting for a world championships for a minute.

I sparred against a lot of people. Are you the only woman fighter that possibly spars against men, or do you, most of them do? The good ones, the ones who are really good, you know, can. But not all of them, but I probably spar with more men than they do than they do. Yeah, I think that. But, I mean, I have to. I'm 180 pounds. Right.

And then even when I was smaller See when I'm smaller I'm actually a bit more dangerous because I'm faster I'm stronger and I'm in way better shape You know so I've always had to like I sparred Tony Harrison You know what I'm saying like I was part against some champions Some really good male

Some really good male fighters male fighters And I'm telling you like you can hit them up And ask them how to sparrow was and they all I'd be like yo she was tough She was strong she was fast I had to keep my hands up I have to be on my defense like It's always some good word. I think out of sparring all of them,

the hardest was Shakur and Earl. Can I hit Shakur? Can't hit him. I'm like, I don't know if it was like, was I stepped behind this day or what, but I could not catch this man. I think I probably hit him with a right hand and a big old up because of something.

I tried to drop him with a body shot, and then we just got the going. But it's hard to hit him. When he don't want to get hit, he don't want to get hit. But he know how to countering it and everything. And then Earl, I was 17, he was just, He was just so strong. Right.

He was so strong and it was just like, what? I had to box him. I had to move around on him because I'm like, this dude too strong to be sitting here trying to fight with. So Earl Spence was really, really strong. But they wanted to use him to make me move around on my feet more because everybody that I was sparring, I was just going in there and just beating them down. So they were like Earl going to make her have to use her skills and move around or whatever, whatever.

So. Clarissa, thanks for coming by. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it. success. Congratulations on everything you accomplished and all the best in the future. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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