Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Drea Nicole & Lex P Part 1

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

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This is no shade to Daphne. I think when you have a moment, you take it. This just goes to show what we deal with as black women. No she to her. It's very, it's just interesting. All my life. They're grinding all my life. Sacrifice.

Hustle pay the price. That's why all my life. I be grinding on my life. Yeah. All my life. So pay the price. Want a slice. Got the rolling dice.

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Great introduction. We got a toast today. I'm ready to drink. Go ahead. Drink. Yeah. Yep. I'm ready.

Lex. Yeah. Look, no, we do. We know you do wine on yours, but just just a piece of it. You know? All right. We will. Thank you so much.

Uh-huh. Okay. Am I good at all the house? Damn. Oh, my goodness. I said, let's get the party. That what I'm saying, let's. Hold on.

That brown made me climb. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be a club, Shay, Shay, for real. I thought, I thought we go, you know, we're going to, like, sip throughout the show. Oh, uh-uh. This wasn't enough to sit. Yes, it is. That was like a little book.

So that's how y'all came up with that eye and poor mine? Four minds. That's what a poor came from. So y'all just keep pouring and pouring and pour it. Yeah, once we pop it, we don't stop it. And, Shannon, you finish yours too. See, you'll be thinking you sleep. No, no.

You're going to put it up. I was going to do. I was going to sip. We're going to sip this too. Yeah, sip. Oh, my goodness. We had to get comfortable. I see. We're not used to sip and we take shot.

Yeah, we do, we do. You know what? That's a great place to start. Okay. You guys met, and you in the bar, in an adult entertainment establishment. Yes. The booty club.

Yes. Who was the bartender first? She was. She was. You taught her how to be a bartender. I did. Okay, so. She took me under her window.

I had to. I mean, as beautiful as she is. Would she terrible at making drink? Oh, just, please. Order a crown and coke only from this beautiful young lady. That's all she got in her. That's it. A queen there and vodka, too.

Yeah. But, you know, it was so crazy because we had a customer come in, and he was ordering all these crazy drinks, like a Manhattan. Yeah, okay. We at the strip club. Come on, bro. What you doing? Just get you a shot on.

Trying coat, jacket coat. He was being difficult. Jenny juice, vodka, cranberry. Yeah, so he was ordering like blue MFs, Tokyo T's, and like, Drey would just come up to me. She was like, hey, can you make this for me? And I'm making them. Now, you know I got a heavy hand.

Oh, my God. Them tips. He was tipping like $100 per drink because he thought she was making. Okay. Oh, we ran it up on that nigga that night. Sorry. Yeah, you go ahead. Oh, yeah. We ran it up on his ass.

Yes, I was going to put all that money in my locker and we busted down at the end of the night. Wow. And that was the beauty and the beginning of our friends. So that was the very beginning because, like you said, she came in, a new bartender. You had already been established. You guys meet there. So did you know, like, okay, so how was it in the beginning? Did you guys like talk, say anything to each other?

It was just that night. Yeah, pretty much. because we had been working at that club for like maybe three, four months. So we would speak to each other and passing, but we had never really had a conversation yet. And then that night, we were working behind a bar together and I walked up to her and I was like,

girl, you got to help me make these drinks. And then after that, we became really, really close and we just started talking every day at work. Right. And then she ended up getting promoted to manager. And then I was like, cool, I could be late all the time. I know how to work. I had on my name tag, Shannon.

And I was on time. Manager. Yes. And I was whipping that, except on her. Except on me. She used to let me be late. But you know that caused dissension. When you show favoritism?

Hey. I don't think they know this. And I don't think they notice. She would be like, it's okay, long as you give me some papas, too. Uh-huh. Because I'd be stopping and getting food. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, you know.

So help me understand this. What are some of the keys to become a successful are really good bartender? You know what's crazy? You really have to have the gift of gab. Yeah. Like, if you really can't talk to people, it's not a job that you can just sit behind the bar and make a drink. Like, you have to be friendly. Yes.

Like, the bar is a fun time. And a lot of times people come along. Yes. Especially in a strip club. Yeah, you're definitely coming. Baby, and a lot of times they was coming on their lunch break. What? Yeah.

You're trying to get eye full on your lunch break. Yes. You haven't heard of the day shift. I have heard of the day shift. Yeah, that's a big thing, especially. But I didn't know guys actually had jobs at the day shift. I thought they were just coming in. Oh.

They were in their lunch break. Yeah. And then they go right back to work. Wow. They got a hoody and hennison. Yeah. And a little lemon pepper wing. Yep.

Uh-huh. So in other words, to be a great bartender, you have to have a gift of gab. You have to be a people person. You have to seem like you're sincerely concerned about what's going on in their life. So what do you do? How long have you been in that job? Are you married? You got kids.

Where are you from? How are your parents? You got siblings. You're asking all that. Don't really care. Just, hey, bro, empty the wallet. Yes. Yes.

You got to ask. And I just feel like it's also about just being customer service. Yes, okay. Like the service has to be on point as well because if you're not doing a good job with the service, you're not going to get a tip. Correct. Sometimes you won't get a tip anyway. Because people be cheap.

Right. And you also got a multitask too. See, we was at the strip club. So a lot of girls back there, because this was during the time where they started hiring bartender because they was fine. Right. Not because they can make drinks. Right.

It was like me and one other girl who knew how to make drinks. So you really got to know how to multitask. Correct. I'm shaking ass, pouring drinks and sorrow with me. I'm talking at porn. Yeah. Oh, my goodness. I'm entertaining.

You got to be talented. You got to be talented. Yeah, I see. So, like, that's how I got hired. Right. I can do a little one, so I can pour a drink. Right. Okay.

And bartenders, you hear the stories of how much of these women are making. Did you ever get enticed to say what I am? You know, I'm making good money as a bartender. But I see these ladies, they make them. two, three, four thousand dollars a night. I'm making three, four hundred dollars a night. Yeah. I mean, when I was younger,

I definitely thought about dancing before because I was cool with a lot of dances. But I just knew my parents was going to be so upset with me, so I just never ended up doing it. And they trusted me when I started working at the strip club. I was like 19 and I was still kind of living in their house. Okay, yeah. So they trusted that I was going to work and bartending.

Right. And I just didn't want to break that trip. Good job. Ask for me. I cannot be trusted It was too much money in there, Shannon I dropped because I was in you saying

I packed up my little Honda Civic I drove to Dallas and I shook my ass all weekend She did And I had a great So you're a bartender during the week And then you booty You shaking booty on the weekend

Well no, it was one night on It was a one night only special Damn She did it for a night It was crazy It was like me and my friends did it It was so much fun I'm not gonna lie

It was like I was probably like what 23, 24? Yeah And I feel like it's a story to tell, but also it's like, you know, you gotta live. YOLO. So what was it about Dallas? Because you wanted to make sure because was the clientele kind of different or you didn't want anybody to know that you were in Houston and you were doing this when you went to Dallas? You know, it was so crazy.

This is how slow and just, I was just drunk doing stuff. Because I went to the most popping club in Dallas. Mind you, before I even got back to Houston, they was like, oh, did you have a good weekend? Everybody knew. Damn. Everybody knew. And then at this club in Dallas, the girls, you would have to take pictures. Right.

So they would put it around the club to let you know, my name was Paris. Wee, we. Yeah. So they knew Paris was in the club. Coming to the stage in beautiful Paris. Yes. So it was so funny because I was like, why would I go to the most popping club? Like, you're going to go to the pop and money at.

It is. I feel like you got to go to the pop and money. You ain't going to make no money at the hole in the wall. There was some cowboys in there, didn't they? They broke brand to you. It's a scorching sports summer and you can make all your picks on prize picks. The WNBA and baseball seasons are heating up. And with big tennis slams and major golf tournaments on the horizon,

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Back in them days, especially she used to work at Starlets and stuff. Like the girl, I worked at Starlets a few times. Excuse me, what she's serving up? Yeah. She had to be serving up on some drink.

No, some drinks. You wouldn't be surprised how to me. The whole bar don't cost them. She pulled every drink their hand up in there. But Starlets. You were not surprised to how much money men spend when they get drunk. That's why you got to get them a little drunk.

You get them a little tipsy. Yeah, they'll spend that cake. But, and plus, if they think it might lead to something else. Yeah. And you have to realize during this time, Bernice was like one of the first IG girls. Okay.

So this is a man's time like, I can pull a woman like that. Yeah. And they're just trying to show her, I got it. Yeah. And they flexing. Yeah.

So you got to realize if four or five dudes come in the night doing that, that's easy. You'll break. Yeah. Because Cashdolls say she made, she made the most money in one night that ever. Yeah, fake.

I believe it. Yeah, I believe it. And I used to clean up in a strip club. I'm not going to lie. And the regular club, but I'd be looking back on it like, damn, where all the money goes? What was I doing with the- But that fast money, you know,

you'd be buying stuff, you'd be buying purses, you'd be buying heels and all that stuff. You're going on vacation. And you look back and you're like, man, I don't blew through some money. Oh, my God. Eat lamb chops every the one.

Man. I never forget. I feel like I found out what a lamb chop was when I moved to Atlanta. Because I did not eat lamb chops in Houston. I don't even think I had ever heard of it. But when I moved to Atlanta, it was at every club. Everybody eat lamb chops.

Hey, you're going to get wings and you're going to get lamb chops at the club. If you don't get no up, you might not get no burger. You might not get it. You're going to get lamb chops. You can get wings. Yep. That's my shit. Yep.

That's how it is. Maybe a little crinkle fry. Yeah. A little baked potato. What's the most money you've made in a bartender? In a night. Yeah, in the night. Um, um, um,

Like 6,000? Six grand? Yeah. And this was when I was working service bar. I used to work at this club in Atlanta called Medusa. What's the call? It was called Medusa. Back in the day.

And I was working service bar one Sunday. And it was birthday bash weekend. Which is like a big thing. It was a big concert. So, yeah, I had worked service bar at night. So I was making the drinks for the waitresses. And I was working a regular bar. And I made like $6,000.

Yeah. I'm a little different because I was at Dreams Houston, which was like the biggest club in Houston at the time. And I've worked an all-star weekend, Super Bowl weekend. So those weekends are a lot different. So I've definitely had. And the heavy hitters coming in.

Oh, yeah. I mean, it gets crazy in the strip club during those weekends. So I definitely have had like a $10,000 night, like easy. And then I'm a hustler too. So I used to be charging people for stuff and I ain't putting it in that cash register. Yeah. Y'all have met your quota.

It's my turn. Yeah, I'm selling bottles of water for $20. What? You're thirsty enough. You're going to buy you. She's not wrong. I was stopping. The whole case of water don't cost for $5.

Are you going to go home, or do you need it right now? I'm thirsty. And let me tell you what I was also doing. I'm stopping by the liquor store on the way to the club. I'm buying my own bottles. I'm selling them holes in the table. I'm setting them holes under the table. See, I wasn't that deep in the trench.

$1. I'm a hustler, homie. For real, though. Better ask about me. Go to Houston and be like, what did you know about Lexpe? Man, she had the wings, the bottle. I'm going to set you up in a, it's not even a section right here. I'm going to find a table and some lawn chairs.

You're going to have a section. Somewhere. Somewhere. I'm going to find it. Oh, my. Yeah. Rent was due. Rent was due.

So when you get that kind of money, and that's cash. Yeah. Now I can see why, because it's when you got the money, on hand, cash go quick. It don't take nothing. You busts 100, that thing gone. Next time, you got 75, you got 45, you got 25, like, damn, what a hundred going?

There ain't got nothing to show for it. It's crazy. I used to make so much money. I had this drawer at my house that I used to call the trap drawer. And I used to leave all my cash in there, like all my ones and stuff because I used to feel like having to go deposit. And I used to have probably at least $2,000 in there

at a time. And I just go pull money out of there when I needed some. You didn't have no check of the account? I mean, what about you? I mean, no idea, but I still just had my own. But you would like have cash laying around. You want to go get your hands on something. Right.

And you go right now. It's so crazy, though, because the things that I'm into now, like, I think, like, if I would have just invested a thousand dollars. Yes. Imagine where I want to be here. But see, that's the thing. That would change your whole perspective. Yeah.

See, you had to grind because you're like, man, there's money out there to be made. If you got money, a lot of times, if you got it already, you ain't going to try to go get it. Yeah. Like you said, you were a hustler by nature, and that's because you didn't have. Yeah. And so that put you on the ground like, hey, I got to go get this. I know. But I'm like, damn, you couldn't put $100 in the market.

A little something. But we didn't even know about the market. We didn't know nothing about anything. I always say my biggest regret is that I had this homeboy when I first moved to Atlanta, and he was telling me about Bitcoin. Yes. And he was like, oh, you need to buy like two, three Bitcoins. And at the time, I think Bitcoin was like $400.

So crazy. I did not buy it. And then like five years. later, it was worth like $30,000 per coin. I was like, what the hell? That was so dumb. Because we didn't know. I had the same opportunity.

Had an opportunity to buy some Bitcoin. Guy said, I said, I said, you're like, I charge you a thousand dollars of corn. Yeah. That's crazy. You say, hey, you know, because I know you, and you'll get an opportunity. You just buy these 25 coins, $25,000. And then I'll give an opportunity to buy as many as you won't. Like, bro, I don't know.

I say, I don't even know what it is. Right. Yeah. And because I didn't know what it is, it's hard for me to invest my money in something. I don't know what it is. Yeah, facts. And I'm looking at, I'm like, boy, if I'd have had them coins. And then you think it's a scam.

Like, I thought I'm trying to save you. Yeah, because I'm like, how do I get my money? Yeah. And it's like, well, you know, then you find out it's used on the, like, the shady market, to buy stuff. Yeah. I'm like, no. It didn't sound right. It didn't.

It just sound right. And I'm cheap, too. I'm cheap. So I was just like, no, I'd rather have my money in my pocket. I didn't understand investing. No. At all. Why do you think so many people are moving to Houston now? Because I think that it was one of those like best kept secrets. It ain't a secret no more. It ain't a secret no more, but you could get a lot for your money.

Like you could buy land out there for cheap. You could buy homes for cheap. And these are like nice, great homes. Not even like builder grade. Like these are nice homes. You could buy nice homes for cheap. We don't have no state tax. No state income. We don't have. We don't have, we don't have they income tax, the women are gorgeous. For real. Beautiful. Bodyed up. And they can cook. And they can cook. But I think Houston, like, when people think of a lot of southern cities, they automatically

think that they're country. I don't think people realize how much of an actual city Houston was until a few years ago. I would say post-pandemic. And then on top of that, the clubs be lit, the strip clubs be popping. So not everybody want to go out there to party. Yes. But then on top of that, it's a lot of money out there. too, like you got oil and gas.

We have the biggest medical center in the world. We have the gallery. Like, it's a lot of money coming in the TV. And the food is amazing too. Yeah. The food is good. I definitely think there was an influx after Katrina. Yes.

Because everybody from New Orleans and the surrounding areas that was impacted, they went to Houston or they came to Atlanta. Yep. And you look, I live in Atlanta and know about Atlanta. And I heard people talking about Houston, but I didn't really know until I went because I almost moved to Houston. Okay. And so, you know, I was looking Houston, Austin, Dallas, Nashville, Vegas.

Okay. And I was like, but Houston was a little bit far to get to and from L.A. because I do a lot of my stuff here in L.A. But boy, and I said, I'm glad I didn't go to Houston. Why? Club Shaysay would have been turned to fucking. It would have been Club Shaysay in the back of area 29. For real.

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I'm going to leave Monday morning. So what do I do? I land, let's just say for the sake of argument, I'm landing at noon, Friday. Friday. Yeah. Oh, I would say the first thing you got to do is, you got to stay at the posto. Yes, for sure. You got to stay at the postdoc. Okay. Then...

But if you don't have post hoc money, you go to the Thompson. The Thompson is new. They just built the Thompson. Yeah, yeah. Because that Postal, that Postal is. That Postal going to run you up. Yes, it is.

But you're right, the Thompson is a good thing. That's the option. That's the big ballers and the mini bowl. I stays at the Thompson. Dre will be at the Postal. I know my budget. Hey. So I would say you got to stay at the Postoak or the Thompson.

Okay. You have to go to the Galleria. Like, you have to go check out the gallery. Get you a little fit, you know what I'm saying? Get you a nice little fit. And what I like about the galleries, they have the highs and the lows. Right. Whatever your budget is, they got you.

I will go to the gallery. I will probably go get something to eat at Nobu. Okay. Or maybe Tocomada. Oh, they do out of the family. They do out of the family. Right. And then, I don't know.

I would probably call it a night. You would call it a night? That's what I'm saying. I mean, you just, well, that's me. The day that I travel, I'd be chilling for the rest of the night. Now, Saturday we could start up. Saturday, you're about to turn up. And Sunday, you know, Houston is a place where it's Sunday,

Fun Day. So you're out the whole day. You're going to brunch. Then you're going to like five different spots on Sunday. She's preserving her energy. That's why we're going. She's saving up for that crescendo. Because Saturday is Sunday.

It's going to get crazy. You ain't never heard the saying you can't leave Houston on a Sunday. You got to stay. I heard that. Sunday Fund day is going to change your life. It is. Wow. So it's like five different spots too that you got to go to on Sunday.

got to go to Chapman and Carby. Yeah, what I heard. Ocho was telling me about Chapman and Carp. Yeah, I heard of. Savoy. Savoy. Yeah, Savoy. Yeah, Savoy.

And you got to end up at Area 29. You got to go to Area 29. If you want to go to a regular club, I would say go to Love. Yeah, love is cool. Love be popping. Which is the club that got the mechanical bull in there? That's not Savoy. I don't know.

Man, it's a mechanical bull in there. I almost broke my back. But I got back up on it. Yeah, because you're taking it straight to the head. Yeah, I gave that. You take it. You take it. You're taking a stretch in the head.

No, you got it. Just silk. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. That was a sip? Yeah.

That was, but listen. Last time I went out on Sunday, I left at noon. Yes. And we started at Tokumadera for brunch. Okay. I didn't get back until 5 a.m. Yeah.

I swear. That's how we party. I swear. Shana, next time we, if we go to Houston and you come, we're going. When next time you're going? When next time we're going? Probably next month. Probably August.

We're going to let you know. We got to really show you a Sunday, Monday. We do. I'll tell you what, poor minds and the nightcap crew. Come on now. We're going to go turn up. We are outside. I'm telling you, you're going to have a ball.

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Lex you graduated from TSU I did, yes Talk to us about The HBC and this is what I always tell people I think even white kids, but all blacks that went to a PWI, you should have to spend one semester at an HBCU.

And hopefully it's the fall to get the ambiance of homecoming, to be in the student center. And when the saw-Raws and the bras, when they're out there in the park and they're doing their thing, and that buzz, when everybody comes back, all the alumni come back, you've got to expect, and when they put on them step shows, Hey. You've got to experience it just once in your life.

You have to. And it was a very different experience for me because I grew up, I went to an all-white school my entire life. Oh, okay. So then when I originally moved to Houston, I was going to U of H at first. Okay. And I was drinking and party. I didn't know how to act.

I came from a small town from Orange, Texas. Okay. And I moved to Houston. I was like, you know, a kid in a candy store. So I actually failed out of U of H. Like, I failed out. Man, when I tell you, I was driving an Austin, I'm going to the UT games, the niggas was outside. Hey, I was having a ball, but it redirected me, so I had to go to TSU.

Right. It's just crazy how life works out. That was the best thing I could have ever done for myself, my life, my career, everything. Like, I finally felt like I belong somewhere. I was, like, immersed in the culture. That's when I started really getting into, like, my journalism stuff. Okay. And it was just like, I had a teacher there.

She was just like, this is what you need to do. I don't know what you think that you want to do, but this is what you need to do. So it was the first time I really had, like, teachers that care. Yes, they were like, you know what? You may be wild and crazy, but you're actually very intelligent. And you can make it work. So HBCU, I'm always root and tell the people to go there.

What did you originally go to school for? So at first, I did go. I've always been to school for communication. Okay. So that's what I started doing. Gossiping. I love a good. They call it math communicating.

I'm being mad to communicate. That's what they call it. But I was doing hard news at first. Oh, really? Yes. I'm reporting like, good evening TSU. You know, I'm really doing it. Right.

But it was so depressing. People houses burning down. Oh, I said, enough is enough. Where is the T? So when I started kind of doing like social media, it was cool, but it wasn't working out. So I was going to go back and go to dental school. Niggas need teeth. And I was trying to.

They're going to Columbia. You go to Columbia? You? Look, my teeth are the last real thing on my body, Shannon. This is the last real thing I got. So you kept, oh, you, they're yours? I'm natural. They're nice. They are nice.

You have braces? I have nice. You had braces. Your mom hadn't had a little money. She had a little soap. Yeah, okay. Now, yeah. We wasn't broke now.

No, both black people, I had had no braces. Yeah, I had braces and retainer all the good thing going on. But this is my real teeth. I didn't have no silver teeth now. I didn't have silver teeth either. And I had braces. Now see? Now, see how he do?

No, I got a grill now, but I have no silver tea. With that Drake song, TSA song about you? No. Now, see how, you messy. I just, I just, somebody told me to ask you that. No, you know, no, who told you that? A friend of mine. I have never met that, that nice young man.

You ain't ever. I've never, well, you know what? He came in the strip club that we worked at one time. You ain't fixing a drink. Never. You ain't saying? It was so far. And I was working.

I'm drinking and twerking. Yeah, but I'm saying. But you ain't poor. You ain't. No. He said you ain't do that little word. Look, listen, that was before my BBA. I ain't had nothing to shake there.

He came too early. He kept you to call you not. No, you know what? I'm a little older now. You're a little retired. Yeah, you don't retire. Okay. I can't compete with them young holes.

When Holes be like made the best thing, you got it. We got it. Because Houston got him. I'm telling you. I mean, Houston got, I used to think Atlanta had it with. And I've been in Atlanta, I've lived in Atlanta, 30, 34 years. Yeah. Yeah.

I can honestly say, I don't know. I ain't doing it. I ain't doing it. It's something, it's something. I don't know what's something, but it's something. It's something. It is. How did it get that thing like that?

It's the food. It's the food. I feel like it's the food in genetic. Yeah. And I mean, and most of it. And most of them ain't got no BBLs. A lot of them ain't got no BBL. Yeah, a lot of them are natural.

They're just natural. I mean, they got, they might have some, you know, probably got about $4.50, 500 C C C C C. But other than that, everything is up and now, they're not. I'm mad that you know the measurement. You don't see some CCs. Yeah, yeah, like, you know, $4.50,

get you a little medium-sized, but five. They don't appear to high tall, y'all. You have a lot? I haven't. I haven't. I haven't. Why not? See, you're not.

You're not living right. You need a good weekend where you just turn it up. And go. And buy some, how much that cost? They might, like, well, probably right now it'll ruin you about 8K. Yeah. 8K. They don't go down.

They don't go down. They don't go down. When I got mine, they was like $45,000. But I just, I mean, but you, what if I'm fattened a frog for another snake to eat? What? Well, I think that once you spend it, you shouldn't worry about it. Yeah. It's a gift.

And it's a good time. and you don't know what you're going to get in return. I'm going to get something in return, but if we break up and then somebody else's fond of little. Yeah, that's the risk you take. No, so you're worried about... I'm worried about the wrong thing. You worried about the wrong thing.

I'm going about it all backwards. You're going about it back. You're going about it back. I'm leaving a moment, Shannon. That's about falling in love. I fall in love six times a year. It's a ball. You fall in love and you be like, this is my husband.

This is my woman and y'all just live in bliss for 48 hours. But you do realize two smart people can't fall in love I agree One of them have to be an idiot You gotta be an idiot to fall in love That's me I agree But what's your logic behind saying that?

What is? That you said like two smart people Can't love? Yeah, yeah Because you understand what comes along with love Love hurts It does, yeah, it's a risk Love

Love is the only thing that will kill you But to keep you alive To feel the pain Yeah I don't know if anybody's ever been in love That's gonna be watching this But if you've been in love and you've poured everything into it, you know how hard it is.

When you work for something, it doesn't work out. Yeah. Just imagine pouring your heart everything for two, five years, 10 years. And then like the party says, you know, I no longer want to be a party. Now, breaking up is easy. Yeah. As long as you're the one doing the breaking up. It's a debilitating feeling.

Yeah, absolutely. So I 100% understand what you're saying. Like, and if you go through that once, you don't want to necessarily go through it. So you be a little bit more guarded The same time, like the next person isn't going to get you the same way that the first person is. And that's unfair to them. Right. Because you need to heal before because sometimes you'll, you know what you do?

You'll cut on the person, you'll bleed on the person that didn't cut you in the first place. Yeah. Because what the trauma that you haven't healed from. And then that person, you're taking out what that last person did, you're taking it on this person and they mean you the best. Well, I just look at it differently because I feel like love is so beautiful. And I look at love like any type of way, like how I love my friends, my family, a romantic relationship. So I feel like, yes, the pain of like a breakup or losing somebody does hurt, but it doesn't trump the feeling of being in love. It doesn't because no matter what, when you love somebody, you're going to experience loss.

We all got to pass away one day. Yes, true. You know what I'm saying? So I'm not going to not love because I have a fear of you dying or I have a fear of you leaving. Life happens. Shit happens. I'm not going to stop loving. Loving feels good.

I love to love people. You love to love. I love it. And like I said, not always romantically, but I love loving all my friends. I love being surrounded by love. It's just a good feeling. Yeah. It's your favorite on hero.

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Okay. I was living there for a year before Lick. So I had graduated from college and then I moved back to Houston. And I just always knew I didn't want to stay in Houston for that long when I moved back. So I was just trying to figure out where it was that I wanted to move to it. At first, I thought it was New York. Then I started dating this guy. He lived in Atlanta.

And he was like convincing me to move to Atlanta. I went to busy him a few times. And he was like, yeah, you need to move out here. I'll help you with the transition, whatever. So I ended up meeting this girl who was a dancer. We became friends. We were friends for like six months. We moved to Atlanta together.

didn't really know each other obviously it didn't work out broke our lease me and Lex were still friends and I was like girl you need to move to Atlanta and so she ended up moving there maybe like what

three four months after me and the girl broke our lease Lex ended up moving there we would always be outside people would be like y'all are so crazy and so funny y'all need to start a YouTube channel and you started a YouTube channel you know what

guys will never do no it's like women two guys that just go all of a sudden just meet them. Say, hey, bro, let's go relocate to Cal and let's go relocate to this. That's a woman thing. Yeah, facts. But why not? Hell no.

Yeah. But why not? Why? Community. Yeah. I mean, you do. And I don't understand. Like, if you're going to try to do something like that, why not go with your homeboy?

That wasn't your home girl. You had known that girl six months. Well, at that time, Shannon. That's my point. If she was my homeboy. Yeah. If I got a homeboy, I'd know 15, 20 years, baby. We grew up together.

Yeah. Okay, fine. But somebody I just met? Yeah. Nah, hell now. I mean, it was definitely a risky decision, but you know, I always try to look back on it. Like, if it weren't for me meeting her and that situation happening, I would have probably never ended up really moving to Atlanta because I wasn't confident enough at the time to do it by myself. Right.

I think women are, we're more open to having community. Yes. And so, again, we don't mind being burned because we're like, you know what, I'm still fine friends and I'm still, because that didn't scar Draya. I made new friends. From making new friends. But men, it's like, y'all complain about not having community, but y'all be like, oh, I'm not doing that. But you know, let me tell you why I think the biggest thing is.

Two women can move together and nobody thinks anything. Yeah. Two guys move together, oh, they go together. I disagree, though, because in college, all of the guys had roommates, and we didn't think they were gay. What you mean? They're on the football team. They're on the basketball team.

I love going to them doing rooms. My bad. On topic. All right. Like my mind. My mind didn't even think like that. Like I think that's something that came later on in life. Now, once you get to a certain point, I'm not going to lie.

Like if you 35 and you and your homeboy live together, that's not your homeboy. Now, but I'm feeling, but I'm even, even 20 year olds, 22, 23 year old. I could believe that though, because you're trying to figure life out and you still is probably not making that much money. It's easier and more cost-efficient to split meals. That's okay. I had a friend who had roommates. when we was in our 20s, a homeboy. Yeah.

Honestly, the economy is hard now. I don't judge how people live. I don't either. You know what I'm saying? But it's just hard for me. It would be hard for me, Lexa. Because I'm, I need my space and I'm a neat freak. I like everything placed a certain way.

The towels folded the same, certain way. I don't want dishes in the sink. I want you to, if you put stuff in the dishwasher, start it from the back. You put the plates for others to the back. You're strict. Yeah. You put the forks and for others to the back and build forward. Now, you come in and you come in and obviously,

I open the dishwasher and there's dishes right there. See, now you're going to say. Now you're mad. Yeah. Now you drink my... Hey, I bought stuff in there and you're heading in you. You don't drunk out. Oh, hell no.

See, you too strict. This is community. My apple juice. We're supposed to be sharing stuff. But let me ask you a question. Is this true? Did you say, like, if you're dating a woman, she can't use the bathroom in your bathroom? No.

Why? No. You too strict. So she got to go to the guest bathroom? No. Hey. He said the gas station. No.

She can't use none of your bathroom? He got the call a ule. I got seven. Okay, so she came to all of the other seat. Just pick the one that I don't go to a regular. First of all, I tell you what, this is what I don't understand. Okay. Y'all don't let your man see y'all put your wig on, but y'all want to go potty in front of that man.

He can see me with my wig off. What? What did you do that? We got to tell over the other things. A woman had never let me see her put a wig on. Because you didn't let her pee. Yeah. She said, I don't feel comfortable around.

Hell no. I don't feel secure. You ain't let a pee. No, she came number two. Oh, huh. Hell no. He said enough. No.

And that passing gas, no, y'all don't do. So what she got to do? I got to teach her the trick. Me? No, it ain't no, it ain't no trick. It ain't a drink without you know. No, no, no. Look, if we're in their sleep and okay, I understand, I mean, you can't control that.

But if we're just sitting around watching TV or we're just sitting around the room, that is not going to happen. That's not going to know. That's disrespectful. No, I'm going to know. It's going to slide in. No, no, no. It's going to slide. I got the plug-ins that just emit nice.

Teak wood, mahogany. Okay. And all of a sudden, it ain't teak wood and mahogany. It felt like collard greens and macketreeze. You've got to get up out of him. Shedinan. But why are men so weird about that? Like, we're humans, too, just like y'all burp and pass gas and boo.

You won't find one that's ever told that. I've never done that in front of a woman. Really? So where do you do it? Do you tell her to leave out of the room? Hey, I go up, I excuse me, absolutely. One of his seven baths on, bitch. You heard him.

I got seven, ho. Pick one. Not this one. No, but look, I grew up my grandmother. I grew up with my grandmother. And I don't walk around my house without a shirt on. Okay. I don't walk around naked because I grew up around women.

You know, it was my grandmother, my aunts, my sister. And so once we got to like eight or nine, we had to put, we had to be dressed. Right. And so that went through all my life. And so I don't walk around. You're not going to find somebody that said, well, I dated him and I hear you. You walk around naked. Hey, don't come in here.

I closed it, no. You try to come in the bathroom. I'm showered. No, uh-uh. Okay. You're strict this. He is strict. So how is dating for you now?

Because where do you live? Where do you live in? I'm in Vegas. You're in Vegas. So how is dating in Vegas? There ain't no dating in Vegas. That's what I figured. No.

That's what I was. You go to, you go to Vegas for the taxes. Oh. And you're off the script. Hey, damn, I don't know what's nothing about that. I'm off the street. See, he said, you need a mind your kids. I don't know.

I don't know about that. He's sending you to the first flowbass. You talk to me. No, no, but who do that? But no, I think that's the thing. I think that's an age thing. Okay. I think women that kind of, that's around my age, they're probably more apt to like,

okay, I'm going to be respectful, but that's how my mom did it. That's how my grandma did it. Women probably 40 and younger, they probably just going to it's going to happen. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I personally don't really be feeling comfortable

passing gas. Thank you. I'm not going to lie. I'm a little old school in that way. It makes me uncomfortable. And then I have to get to a point where I feel extremely comfortable to like use the bathroom at your house

and it's only been one time that that's happened with one person that I've dated. When I said that on poor minds, they ripped me to shreds. About what? About not doing that in front of your man. Because I was like, let me, now, have I done it in front of a man before? And they were just like, oh, oops.

You know, sometimes it happened a little. But I'm not just sitting there like. Party. We're not about to have a fart off. Yeah, no, see, that's a thank you. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I'm already loud. Yeah.

I'm already a lot going on. Yeah, that'd be too much. They already think I play football. I can't be farting too. Yeah. I got to pick my battles, okay? Thank you. You know what I'm saying?

You do. I think of that. I don't think of that. I don't think of it. I don't think. Because I think everybody has something that, like, okay, don't do that. Don't do this. Okay, fine.

Yeah. Cool. I'm good with that. But I don't, I don't understood why I got so much drawback, a blowback from saying, I don't want a woman to pass gas in front of me. I don't pass gas. I go to the bathroom. I turn the water on so you don't hear me pee.

I agree. I feel like you should be able to hold it in. That's not asking too much. And if you came, maybe you need to go get your good chance. Yeah, it's a lot of gut health. Yeah, you need to get a probiotic. Yeah. And that's the digestive is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you in Vegas, some holes drink out there. They drank a lot. No. These George, they do. Hey, better get some bad for the side of the village or something.

No, the issue really going to be far. Oh, I don't. All right. It's a cleanser. It's going to clean you. What do you think the biggest similarities and differences are between ATL and H-TX? Oh, I would say the biggest

similarities would be that they're both cities that I think black people can really thrive. Yes, and prosper. It's a lot of successful black people in both cities. The strip club culture Yeah, strip clubs are like a big thing

and it's a big thing in Atlanta. Now, I will say, though, it was a little shocking for me the very first time I went to Atlanta and I saw that the girls get butt naked. But balls. And Houston, they don't do that. They don't get it. Hold on. I mean, what they do if the ball is in? Oh, they're okay.

You got to have enough money. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, it's illegal. You know, once they start tipping and sipping down, you know, that brown makes a clown and it goes down. But, yeah, Atlanta, but I will say the similarity for me, as far as, like, the strip club culture goes, Atlanta and Houston is the only places I've seen where thick women climb the poles.

It's hard to climb the pole. Usually that's like a skinny girl, a skinny girl sport. Yeah. The thick girls be climbing that pole. They do. And so they know what to do in that aspect. But I will say I feel like Atlanta is a little bit ahead of Houston as far as like the industry. Entertainment.

Yeah. Like the things that I get done in Atlanta, like moving to Atlanta completely changed my life. You know, I feel like Houston kind of built me into the woman that I am. But as far as like the industry, I couldn't do nothing out there. It wasn't happening. Right. So moving to Atlanta, they're way ahead. It's easy to find community out there.

Like everybody wants to help everybody in Atlanta. Yeah. I don't know. Difference is the only difference I could think of. of maybe I'm a little biased. Houston has way better food. Way better food. Way better food.

Okay. It's a whole. Because everybody can be talking about Atlanta be overpriced. They'd be charged you like $500 for a lamb chop. Literally. Then you just paid $400 the park. Yes. Like the hookup.

I'm $3.50 to get in. I'm telling you. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yes. Hey, I'm ATL. Y'all stop overcharging, folks. Right.

All right. You guys have gone viral several times talking about relation topics on your show. We'll talk about a few. There was a guest that can. came on and said if a guy's not making at least $50,000 a year. Now, I don't know if that's before or after taxes, but we're just going to say $50,000. Yes. He or she shouldn't be dating.

Man, y'all just told us that the time's hard. This economy tough. It is. But I do think that I understood where she was coming from. I don't think she should have said that, though. because sometimes I do think people priorities be in the wrong place and maybe that's how I took it

from what she was saying like people's priorities be in the wrong place like if you barely making ends meet maybe you need to be trying to more so focus on how to get yourself out of this tough spot and how to get in a better financial situation than trying to find a partner and then kind of giving them the bare minimum

because that's all you can afford. I agree. I see like both sides of it But I do feel like the average person is making $50,000 or less. You know, you know, so it's like telling the average person, you don't need to do nothing but work, work, work, work. You know what I'm saying? So I'm kind of like on the other side of it to where it's like everybody, there's somebody for everybody. Correct. Because there's a man who makes $50,000 that can find another woman who makes $50,000 or less or even more.

Right. And she's okay with just doing a simple coffee date and things like that. I think what it is is y'all are trying to convince women who are used to going out, with bought like a Shannon Shard and having a great time. And y'all are trying to convince them to date a man that makes $50,000. Right. So I think that's where the conversation kind of went off the rails. Yes, yes.

Because a lot of times they're trying to make us feel like we should be dating a certain type of man when that just hasn't been our story. Okay, but what about, what about if she's not making $50,000, what entitles her to be able to date somebody making $5 million, $10 million, $15, $20, $30, $40, $40 million? I don't think anything entitled to make that. And I feel like Lex and I have said this before. Like when we were younger, I think we had different mindsets about certain things when we came to dating. Now me being 35 and like being successful myself.

You want somebody successful. I want somebody successful. And looking back on it when I was 25 and 26 and I felt like I was in, I felt this sense of entitlement in dating a man who was worth like $5 million. It's like, why? You ain't got it. Yeah. You ain't even got $50,000. Right.

But at the same time, Dreya is a woman, and I was a woman at the time, we're not looking for men. That's who was hitting on. They're coming to you. They were coming up. Oh, you don't see.

So it did kind of become like a standard thing. You're like, okay. If these are the type of guys who's trying to approach me. You like scram. I can tell. You don't smell like money. It's smelled like money, Shed it.

Because now this is what I'm kind of used to. Yeah. So, okay. And the thing is, once you get you. used to, and that's what I tell people, they're telling me, man, you can never, you've got to understand when she's used to having somebody say, hey, pack your bags, meet me at the airport, we go in here. Yeah. We go in there. They're buying this and that. Once you get,

and once you get like a taste of that, it's hard to go back and like, yeah, it is. Yeah. And I, but I think what the issue is for some people is that these days, it's a lot of women who look on social media and they see the way other women are living. And then that becomes their standard not because it's something that they've actually been exposed to themselves or experience. But they do realize like social media ain't real life. It's not. It's not. And they don't be showing you how they be crying in the backseat that they handle because they ain't got no car. And this how I'm sorry. It's just like and looking back some of our old clips, I will cringe at some of the stuff we used to talk about. But we were so young. But now there's nothing better in the

world than having your own check and been able to do I can maneuver how I want to. Yes. And not depending on somebody. I'm saying. They said this is the first generation a long time we can actually date men because we like to do. Because of their characters. Yes.

And that's why everybody's single. It's true. But I do agree. Like, I just feel like a lot of times social media has changed the way dating is because y'all are looking at these certain women and how they're living. It's like they're not even living like this.

They're not. Because social media had me thinking I'm broke. No, no. Now you're lying. I see people. They don't. private jets. They in Bali. They in the Maldives. They in the Philippines. I'm like, you was just in Vietnam yesterday. How are you in the Philippines this week? How are you in the mall?

I'm like, well, damn, what you do? I know, I'm going to tell you what they do, Shannon. What they were doing? Oh, Lord. Jesus. It's for sale. And you know, once you get over there, the flights be cheap to get from one place. Yes, once you get over there. Once you get there, the flights be like $100. Shady, you can go on vacation for like three months. You could if you wanted to. I ain't no vacation type of guy, though. Why not? Because I can't, because I can't relax. Why?

I can't. Because, and people have asked me this, guys, and I'm going to be God's honest truth. Vacation is for people that want to get away from something. I don't feel like to get away from anything. Okay. Okay. But, no, vacation is,

sometimes you just want to lay by the beach and have a margarine and just enjoy the scenery. I ain't, I ain't really no water person, but I have a few ideas, though. What? I've been thinking about it. What do you like? What do you like? Like, what?

Now that you mentioned it. What do I like? I like to work out. Okay. I like to work out, play with the dogs, and I work. That's all I do. Oh, my goodness. I don't really have.

My hobby is working. So you don't never feel like you just need. Because for me, vacations always feel like a reset. You don't never feel like, oh, I just need. I go to my home in Atlanta and I don't cut the TV on for the whole week. Okay. I just get away. But I do want to go somewhere.

I got a vacation coming up here. about six weeks. Oh, good. I'm going to go somewhere for two days, and I'm going to turn that phone off. I'm going to turn my phone off. I ain't accepted no cause. Yeah, you got to take that shirt off too

because you like to keep it on. I do. Take that shirt off, Shannon. And get in the water. And get in the water. You know, I got a pool. Ain't been in the pool yet. That's crazy.

I had a pool in L.A. You're not rich and right. You're not rich. It's making me mad. You need to give me that money. You're not doing it right. Because what do you mean you ain't got in the pool yet? I ain't got the pool yet.

You just ain't had the time. No, I just, I ain't stuck a foot in there. I ain't, I ain't stuck, I don't, you know, the, the, uh, the jacuzzi, not nothing. That's crazy. That is. So what you get the pool for? The pool came with the house. Do you plan on entertaining?

Like, you don't think of a party? You know what? I might, I might have, uh, the group at Shesh, shit, meet. I might have, before we start back next season, I might have everybody. I might have everybody over. Now, we're going to a restaurant. They ain't come to my house. They ain't going to my house.

I'm coming and we're going to turn it up. It's time to party. You're going to be careful who you invite to your house. Okay, so you said you guys, like when you were younger, you felt a sense of entitlement that you were entitled to a guy that have a certain level. Yeah. Now you no longer feel that way. Is there a certain number that you feel a guy should make or need to make in order?

Because, like you said, you guys have your own now. Yeah. So you don't have to. except anything. Yeah. I feel like we just at least need to be equally old. You need to at least be making

what I'm making or better. You're making, y'all making big buddy. That big bucks and damn right. That big bucks and no whamies. Yeah, thanks. So I need a big daddy. Oh, Jay. Yes, that's what I'm looking for.

So I guess with that case, ain't nobody splitting no bills. You know, no. I mean, I will say this. I used to say that, but I do feel like once you get to a certain level of money, who really cares? I don't think rich people have conversations about that. I ain't rich yet. I don't think rich couples, like when the woman is making money and the man is making a lot of money,

I don't think they're arguing about who paying a light view. Literally. Like, I think those conversations about splitting the bills are so like... I think it's for people who need to split the bills. Right, and that's okay. There's nothing wrong with splitting the bills, but the type of lifestyle that I imagine myself whenever, I'm married and I'm having kids.

That's not what I've ever imagined for myself. It's not going to be like, oh my gosh, I paid it this month. You paid it. Just take it out the pot. It's a lot more where that came from. We don't have a joint account. Come on. Oh, we are?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, we're going to have A. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. Just check it just like you feel we're on the same pain. Because airplay ain't good. No, everything ain't going to be on. Come on. This ain't no gumbo.

We see it. Hey, I'm going to keep the shrimp in the ogro over here. Now, if you were put the cheese thing, the sausage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I feel you. Yeah, everything is going to be in one pie. Yeah, I agree. But what happened?

Because it seems to me, and I could be wrong, and if I'm wrong, guys, correct me. Whatever happened to growing with a man, a man doesn't have anything, he's planted, and you watch him and y'all grow together. It seems now everybody wants already, already grown. The fruit, I can just go pick the apples or the pears or whatever the case, the fruit already. Nobody wants to grow anymore. I do think that that's a little messed up that people have that mentality these days but I don't know as a woman in my 30s

you should be built you should be grown already because I feel like what have you been doing all this time? Yeah. At 35. Like if just saying if I'm dating somebody that's the same age as me

like what have you been doing all this time so where I need to work with you while you build? I think that when women are in their 20s that's unrealistic because y'all are both. trying to figure things out. And I'm not saying that we still can't grow together. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

But you should still, but you should have something that you are already coming with. I shouldn't just be over here like, okay, well, he got to get it together. Let me just stick it out with him. I don't think nobody should be there to get it together. Look, if we run out of college or, you know, hey, I'm trying to grow this right here. Okay, this is what we're trying to do. But I agree. I mean, but sometimes it's really hard because sometimes it takes people longer than others.

Sometimes where some people can figure it out in 22. Some people maybe at 25, some people might take them 30. It's kind of like maturing. Some kids mature a lot sooner than others. Yeah. And some like, well, damn, he's mature at 13, 14, and here you are, 25, and you still ain't mature. Yeah, and I do. I think it's different when you're growing with a person that you've been with for a long time.

Or even if something is to happen because you have situations where a woman is with a man and he's doing amazing. And then something ends up happening as life altering. And then y'all are not in the same financial space that y'all once were in. And you got to, you know, be there for him. while he gets it back. Get back on his feet. Yeah, get it back to where it was. I think that's okay.

And that's understandable, especially in a marriage. Yeah, I just feel like when it comes to these money conversations, they're tough. It really gets extremely interesting. But I also feel like when you're in a relationship,

like being like this ride or not, I think that they try to put on black women, they make us feel so bad for it. But again, I'm about to be 37. Yeah, okay. I'm not saying that you have to be worth, you know, a million dollars, but also you gotta have some money coming in.

They gotta be worth at least a million. Who you fooling? Well, she ain't fooling me. Come on. Go and toast this. You see who said that and who didn't. Okay, but this is what I'm saying though. You have to have some money coming in, right? Because my thing is, we are in this age where everybody's like, oh, I want to start from the bottom and I want to grind, I want to go get it.

Hey, when I quit my job, when poor minds was taken off, they literally had to force me out that job. Yeah. They were like, you can't be here no more. you don't have the time and I was like, I want my consistent check. Yes. Y'all have to follow your dreams and go to work. Yes. I'm not supporting nobody that's not supporting themselves.

So I do think that like, yeah, you can ride or die with somebody or whatever you want to do, hold it down. But y'all need to be making some money now. Yeah, but we need to be riding. Yeah. I didn't try to die. I didn't die four times. Exactly. Exactly.

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You get your podcast When is the Right time To move in With a man I'm I'm moving

today Yeah Yeah. God almighty! Hey. I got my... I'm not going to lie. If you want to move me in, let's do it.

And if it don't work out, I got my house. I can go back to it. I'm going to rent that. For real. Y'all, for real, y'all, for real, a play, play. I would still keep my own place. But, like, if I felt convicted enough and I really felt like this was my person, even if we just met, like, maybe a few months ago, yeah, if he asked me to move in, sure.

But I'm going to keep my place so that if it don't work out. Are you going to be a home? I got somewhere. I have a home. Yeah. So I'm keeping my home. I'm going to rent it out, whatever. But let's move in. If it don't work out, I'm telling you. You have to, that's why I say you're not rich and right.

When you got money, you can do things like that. Let's move in. Why not? Yolo. And then I'll move my ass right back out. You got seven bathrooms. Yes. And I know you ain't using them. Can't nobody use them at. Oh, you can use them.

Y'all can use them. It's just the master. out for me. All the other ones have it. You can have Eddie. Yeah, the guests got their own bathroom. Everybody, you know, this one got this and this. Yeah. Everything is separate. Yeah. But I don't believe

in timelines. Time lines. No, because timelines is what fuck people up. This is why a lot of women are in their 30s or a lot of men in their 30s feeling like they're behind. Yeah. Because people say, oh, you're supposed to, if you're with this man for this long and he hasn't married you yet, or if you've been at this job for this long, stop putting yourself on a timeline.

If I meet a man today, if I go to Happy Hour and meet a man, he's sweeping me off my feet, I'm moving in. Yeah, and I agree. And I'll say this because my parents, they met, and then six months after they met, they moved in together.

And they were married for 40 plus years up until my dad passed away. Yeah. I heard of hear that. Thank you. Wow. But yeah, and they only knew each other for six months and took the chance and it worked.

You know, that's a great transition. Mm-hmm. Because you know the next question. How long are we waiting? How long are we waiting for what? Do to do. Oh, we grown. I feel like...

If I meet a man to date. Yeah. Come on, let's. Yeah, I feel like, again, timelines, like, we're grown. If I like you and you like me and we feel at each other and it's in the moment and it happened, cool. I don't think it needs to be a certain time frame. And I say this also because I have been in situations, especially when I was younger where

I dated somebody for like three months six months and I was like Oh I'm not about to give him none And then we had sex We talked for maybe another few months after that And then he started getting on my nerves And I was like okay I don't want to do this now And it was pointless to make him wait

You know Yeah And I've had situations where I've dated somebody for a few weeks And then it happened Or it happened the same day And he's still here They do that? Yes

And then we were in like a three year, four year relationship. Damn. I grew up in the wrong time. Yeah. I mean, I had to wait. You had to wait at least at bare minimum. You had to wait about six weeks.

That's at the minimum. Okay. Max probably about three to six. Okay. But then would. It's like, because then I think it's so many women out there who go by these rules and then they make men wait. And I think if that's the man's intention, if his intention is to have sex with you.

After he get that, he's going to see anyway. If that's what he waiting on, he'll wait. on, he'll wait it out. He'll wait for six months a year. Yes. However long. No, he'll wait on you. That ain't mean he's waiting. He's just waiting on for your joy. Yeah, he's still outside. He definitely still outside.

Now, I will say, I think now if I'm like dating, I'll wait just because you got to get to know people. And sometimes you find all a motherfucker lame as hell. Yeah, yeah. And they don't show it in the beginning. But I've had situations where, like, I was dating a guy for like, seriously, like we were on and off talking for like two years and we never messed around for two years.

What? Yes. And like it ended up because it just never happened, but then it finally happened it was cool. Like, we're cool, you know? And then I've had men

where it was like, first night, and I was dating him for seven years. Damn. You know what I'm saying? First night, seven years. Yes, literally. Where y'all meet that?

I need to go there. I need to go there. I get some now. What are you? What are you about? They got more women like that? You know what? We met in Houston.

This is a Houston love. This is a Houston love. I'm sorry. You gotta go get you a, I'm from Orange though. You got to go get a country bumpkin. You do. Why do that? Because that got that whippersnapp-a-huh. Yeah, that's what you need. Southern women are the best. Yeah. You need a deep, a deep

southern woman though. Like, you need somebody like. Cook, you can cook. Yes, cook, clean. Never smell like on your name. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. So yeah, so I feel like with me, like I've never been a timeline person, but I'm not suggesting that for everybody because I know how to, I have very good discernment. Yeah. Okay. And I know how to,

politely take my exit when it's time to leave. I'm not holding nothing down. I'm not doing so. I think when it comes to relationships, sex moving in, you do what feels right. And when it don't feel right no more, move around. But do y'all feel like things like that when it comes to dating? Is that playing a game too? Like if you like, okay, I met this person. I like them. But I want to wait three months, six months before I have sex with them. Even though I really, really like them, I feel like they might be my person. I'm a still make him wait. Do y'all feel like that's still a certain level of game playing. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. And I feel like that's the problem, though. When it comes to dating, if you really like somebody, I feel like you should just go with your heart and with your instincts a lot of the time because you might be missing out on your person or like a potential good thing because you have all of these rules. But I think, I think we're kind of shifting away from that because society will frowned upon that.

Yeah. Oh, oh, the first night or you gave it up the first week. Now, women are starting to have more men personality. They're like, hey, if I like you, I'm going to give it to you. If I don't, you're not going to get it. You're not going to get it in a week. You ain't going to get it in a month. You're going to get in a year.

The women have really, not all, but some, I've started to see, notice the shift. Yeah. That women, like, guys, y'all outside, we're outside too. Because they've done this thing where they try to make us feel bad for being a certain age and being unmarried. That's not an insult to me. I'm having a ball, baby. I'm having a great time A dick

We're outside having a dick It's above a ball You're having a dick You went outside and you had a ball right Yeah But what if you have more than a ball? It's what's above the ball? The dick

We outside having a dick All so much Shay, Shay It's going to I'm telling you So until like I get married Which I know it'll happen For me one day

I do want to be mad I'm gonna make somebody extremely happy But you're not insulting me by being like Oh, this is why she's unmarried. Baby, I'm having a dick. And the men who be saying that don't be men, we want to be married to her.

You don't want to see. And the men that I really like, they be like, man. She's fun. They ain't. They understand me. So I'm happy. See? Yeah.

See? That's what I like. Rick Ross said a career woman should quit her job if they date wealthy men. Would you quit your job if you dated a wealthy man? No. Because I have my own goals and ambitious. Yes. That has nothing to do with him.

These are my own personal goals. These are my own personal things that I want to do. So just because you got money, that's cool. But I have dated enough men with money to know that just because you got money, what do they have to do with me? That ain't my money. Even if you're giving me some of it. Ultimately, it's your money.

And I need to be working hard to build my own legacy and build my own wealth of our own. And what happens when we don't go together no more and you ain't give me no more money and I don't quit my job, then what? Exactly. I don't think a lot of women think about that. The most unsuccessful relationships and marriages I've seen is when they don't have a life outside of each other. Like, I have to still enjoy my life whenever you're not around. Like, I still want to go hang out with my friends.

I still want to go to work. Like, you have to do things outside of your partner. Yeah. Like, I understand we love our men. We love our woman and all that stuff. But you still can have a life outside of that. But get up and go and every day. Yes.

I don't really do anything. It's these memes. It's these memes that got people like. Like, oh, my man, I love when he ride around. He asked me to go to CVS with him. Girl, go to work. I love when he picked me up to run errands. Girl, go make sure.

Y'all both need to go to work. Because what's going on? Yeah. I don't like that. Dre, is it true? I read a man bought you a car without having sex. Oh, shit. Why you tell him?

I'm going to take it to the head. Yes. Yes, that's true. He bought you a car. He bought me a range rober. Hold on. I'm talking about like. A range rover, 4.6.

Yeah, a range rover. It was paid off. Supercharged. Mm-hmm. A real one. A real one. A real one that I could drive. I had it for a few years and then I traded it in and I got another one.

And then I just got it. I upgraded in the kind of another. Hold on. And you ain't do nothing? No. I mean, he was cool. Don't get me wrong. Like, initially I liked him.

I thought he was cool. He was nice. But then it was some things that started being off about. him and I just wasn't really feeling him like that. So I think, in my opinion, he bought it so that he could impress me and try to get what it was that he wanted, which obviously was.

The hoo-ho. Yeah. So that didn't end up working out. It didn't work out for it. And then I think he felt played after the fact. But I also, and I've said this before, I never asked him to buy me that card. Then you got offered to get back?

No, I didn't do that either. You don't take gifts. We don't give him back. No, you don't take it back. No give back. No, because once you give it to me it's mine. If you give me something, like if you buy me something and you give it to me, you tell me it's mine, now it belongs to me. Why should I give it back to you just because we're not communicating?

And that was two range rovers ago. She's on her third one. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It ain't bought you no call yet. But you know what? You know why, though? I feel like when I get things and I get gifts, I still got my putt putt.

I do not want a car note, Shannon. And everybody keep telling me to get a new car. I'm so, I said that earlier, I am very, very cheap. But, like, when it comes to my house and things like that, like, I don't buy me a house. Okay. Renovation. So when I get things, like, I don't necessarily go, you know, shop. And I be like, oh, can you buy me this couch?

Oh, can you pay for my fireplace to get that? Like, that's the kind of. Oh, that's what you say. Damn a car or a purse. Hey. I need a new couch. I need a new refrigerator. I'm about to.

You know how. And do some work on this house while you at it. It's going to cost me. needing all of it. Yes, yes. She needs it all. In the car, in the purses, in the jewelry. I just need my I'm just being... I'm just being honest. Well, you have, hey, I'm just telling you. Guys, look

here. Y'all meet Dre and she ain't about to get up off it. Don't y'all buy nothing? They need that ROI. They need to know what it is. Return on investment. Tell her Lex. Now, Shannon, why are you going to always start in my game? Nah, no, no, no. You don't

got over on a couple of guys. That isn't you? A couple. So, Shady, you've never bought a woman something. And she didn't give you none. You're not once like even so you never, you don't bought somebody something. Let me see, let me see, let me see.

But we got, but you got, but you got to realize though Lex, I mean, in order for me to buy you something, we got to be down the road. What's the most expensive thing? Yeah. Oh, Lord, how much. Yeah, we need to know what kind,

we're trying to help you. I'm a real, I'm a real gift giver. Okay. So I buy, I buy really, really nice stuff. Okay. So probably, cheap is probably like then

like when I really have a whole lot of money probably like a thousand dollars now I got a little bread probably the cheapest thing probably like five on up okay that's not bad though

because I mean I've gotten like a Chanel bag and I didn't like him but it was a it was a nice gift you know so I think when you get things from people and you're not asking for it you can't be at that. If you don't get what you want in return.

Right. Because a lot of times, like, she didn't ask for that car. He was hitting me up, like, I'm gonna kill him with it, so I was like, you show is. Now, you get any more. Y'all in this together. Hey! Oh, my goodness! He ain't my other best friend, Lee. And shout out to me. He said, should I get her this?

Hey, oh yeah. Hey, boy, you get a bad right there, you're gonna be in there. Yeah, that's what I said. But you know what, I do agree with Lex. See, you can tell us if you feel like we're wrong, but I don't think that you're that that's getting over on somebody if they're offering to do something that you accept the gift. Right. But how long have y'all been dating or seeing each other, whatever, maybe it was not dating. But how long had you guys been communicating? It had been like two months, maybe three. And hold on. And you hadn't got off, so y'all are going out to dinner.

Yeah, we still go out to eat all the time. Okay. And sometimes he would, like, it would be, let me get four. Let me get three lamb chops. Oh, yeah. On the friend there, on the friend there, Dre, I don't lie. Friend come, you got to get up on. But you said it. I ain't fit to feed on your yoke. I haven't been to feed five people. I eat a lot. But I think he really just used to enjoy our company because we were such a good time.

That man wanted something and you know it. And you held out on him. No, we weren't. Are you not having a good time? If you like, if you don't like somebody should you have sex with them, if you don't like them. Like, if you have come to the conclusion. Okay, we don't hung out for these however many months. I don't really like you the way I thought I did at first.

Should I still have sex with you just because? Go ahead and tell him, say, bro, this ain't, you know. But I did. You did? I blocked him. I stopped talking to him for a while. And then he started hitting my other best friend up. And he was like, man, I got her to car.

And he pulled up. Yeah. That's when I said you about to unblock him. I need a ride. Yeah. But I mean, you are, you. Sometimes. I'm a very honest person.

Like, I'm honest with a man. But, Dray, you should do your game something because you feel sorry, but you're like, bro, you don't spend $100,000 with you. I don't never feel like, sorry. You ain't got no sympathy. No.

I don't never feel like. No. No. God. I have sex with men that I like. Like, I have two like you. I think that's the bare minimum. I need to like you.

I mean, back of the day, they keep her from begging. I'm tired of your begging at here. There's what? And y'all was taking it. And you liked it? Don't get me. here, damn dick.

I don't want nothing, no. Hey, you hungry. Your old lady puts over there. Here, hear your food. I'm hungry. You think I ain't going to eat? Hell yeah, I'm going to eat. To your bag and ass.

All you do is beg. He said it don't matter. It's about the principal. Yeah. Give that coochie up. Give me what I'm old. I mean, the man got you a hundred thousand dollar vehicle. Now, you know, Lex.

I'm not going to lie. In that situation, she wasn't wrong. But again, I don't care. if it's a burger from McDonald's or a brand new house, if you didn't ask for it and you're not begging this. And he persisted to me. You know how many times I've been shopping with a dude and I'm not even there and he's like, oh, let me go get you this.

You're still not getting none. I don't cater. Oh, hello. Yeah. So what? So in other words, you feel that he's buying, you guys feel that he's buying gifts, trying to get you to come off of what you have no intent on doing.

I mean, maybe, maybe not. Sometimes I'll be like... What if he came up with... Okay, he got you a Chanel. He got your YSA. Now he showed it with that burking, that 35. After the first two. After the first two.

Oh, he definitely bought that burking to get some coochies. Yeah. And you ain't going to feel sorry for him getting no? No. Oh, Lord. I didn't ask for it. I'll tell you what, you know what? Since you didn't ask for it, give me the mother two back.

You're left. Can I keep the burking off? Damn, no. But no, I feel like it's deceitful when women get men to... do things for them under false pretense. Like making them feel like, okay, well, if you do this something, then I will give you some. I'm going to rock your world.

I'm going to do it. I'm a rock your world. I'm a rock. Like, whatever it is, if you're telling a man that you're going to do something that you know you don't have no plans on doing it. Then you're being a deceitful person. But if he's just offering a do and you take it, I don't think that's wrong. Guys got it like that.

They can just offer it up like that? Yeah. They do. They be giving it. They do. They do. What? Yes.

They do. That Chanel was a gift. He ain't get no good gift. Well, they're... Mine up, Shay. Hold it up, Shay. Hold it up. Yeah.

Gail. Were they home boys? He is now. No, that was my man that bought that. Oh, your man. Oh, okay. But he got some, though. He said, but he got some.

That's who got some on the first name. Jayo! See, and now what a... Now what a thing? what you think is going to happen that guy that brought you to range? He said, hold on, I bought you a whole range rover. This man bought you a purse.

He got some the first night. I bought you a range rover and ain't ever. I mean, respectfully, he did a lot more than by me a Chanel bag. But that's the, but you really like him. And I also really liked him. Yeah.

Because there's no substitute for liking something. No, I feel like just like when people get married, like I don't want to get married if it's not the type of love that I'm enamored with. And I feel like it's something that I will never experience again. And I feel like I can't breathe without you. I don't want to get married. Do people want the ceremony or the thought of being married

or do they want the commitment that comes along with being married? A lot of people want them Instagram pictures. I ain't going to lie. They want their wedding. They want them pictures. Oh, girl, you look so good. They want their wedding. King and Queen.

They want them TikToks, you know. But the commitment. I mean, I always say this like, Dre is like my wife, because we do business together. This is my best friend. And this is a marriage. We're married. And it's hard.

It is. But my love is so deep for her, you know, it makes it easier, you know, to maneuver through that. And I'm like, damn, could I really do this with a man? With a man. Like. That you, at least, y'all work together all day. Y'all work 10, 12, 14 hours.

How long you work? You go to your house. She goes to her house. But as a man, y'all come together. Now, the person that you married, a year ago, five years ago, that's not the person that's laid sleeping next to you now. Come on. So as that person evolve, are you willing to evolve?

You're not the person that I married. Absolutely not. Nobody's the exact same person they were five years ago. That's how I need somebody mentally that's the same. I'm different every, I change so much because I'm learning. I'm growing. You know, so I feel like. Oh, he's going to have to be, he's going to have to have an unbelievable personality.

He's going to have to be a really free spirit. Yes. Because you're a free spirit. And if he's not careful, what attract. him to you will start to wear on him. Oh, that happens to me a lot. That would be happening to me too. I think when you're a person who you always constantly evolving and growing,

if you with somebody who they are held being on staying the same, it becomes a lot for them because they'd be like, well, damn, why you ain't like that no more? It's like, I've changed, but you should have too. Right. Absolutely. If we're not evolving, you're dead. And I think that's the thing with us, like, we've grown together. Yeah.

Like, and even if one of us is growing more than the other person, they ain't far behind. You know what I'm saying? So we always just center ourselves. It's weird. Did you hear LeBron? LeBron said, if he was single, notice what he said. If he was single, he could not date a stay-at-home woman who spends her days just chilling on the couch. And people are like, well, what does Savannah do?

Savannah is his wife. Yeah. Savannah made it very clear that she wanted to be a housewife and take care of LeBron and take care of the kids. He said if he was single, Savannah is a married woman. Savannah took the kids, took the kid to carpool and all the practices. While LeBron was doing what LeBron was doing, Savannah says, that's my job. She has side projects.

I think she has a podcast now with one of her. She has a skincare line. She had a juice bar. Juice bar. But her main focus was family. Kids, LeBron. Right. What did he say that was wrong?

I don't think he said anything that was wrong because like you said, if he was single, he's not single. So I took that as if he ever is single again. Which you say he ain't never going to be. So he says somebody ain't going nowhere. Right. And I 100% believe that. But I took it as if he's, if by chance he happens to ever be single again,

he wants somebody who has already built something. Doing her own, not just sitting on the couch waiting for me to get home. Right. I took that as he was talking to the younger guys under him like, if I was in your shoes, that's how I interpret it as. Okay. Okay. Because a lot of times I talk on my man, if I took,

I was to do this again, this is how I would do it. You know what I'm saying? So I took it as he was giving advice. I just think that the way that when Pete, when we get on microphones, especially somebody like LeBron and Savannah who are a high profile. They dissect everything. They say. Yes. Y'all know what he meant.

Yes. Like, stop trying to look into something so deep. Well, you're like, being a mom is not a hard job. Like, nobody said that. Nobody said that. We understand that. Hell, me getting the kids in the summer. Let me know.

doing this full time? Yeah. Hell, I need to get y'all a couple of more files. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Now, they need to clip that for all the baby mamas. Clip that. That's the one. But yeah, I don't think he said anything wrong. And honestly, I think, like, well, we have couples that are in the spotlight that have shown us a beautiful, black, successful family. Correct. There don't, there will be no negative conversations about that. Yeah. I don't care. And I feel like Savannah and LeBron are so unproblematic. They are. So how could you? you look at them and find an issue

with what he said. It's never been no scandal. It's never been nothing crazy. Because people believe it's too perfect. Yeah. So let it be. But you know how a lot of people want there to be scandal. Yeah. I need to

because why do we like reality television? I want to see how much of their lives are just like mine. Right. Do they argue like we do? Do they have problems going on like we have going on? I need to see how much of that is really like my life. That's why people like watching reality.

That's why you like seeing behind the scenes of what if they're like when you see documentaries and you see behind the scenes of Beyonce concert or you see people like, oh, so that's what, man, she got probably just like we got. She does this just like we do. She goes to the, people

want to see that. That's we all human. I mean, we are all human, but at the end of the day, I think that's the issue too. That's where this stand culture comes in. Stop trying to relate to billionaires. Yes, yes. That's where you need to stop. Enjoy their art, enjoy what they do, and leave it at, I don't got nothing to come with no Dan Lebrun James.

And I'm okay with that. I don't understand his thought process. He lives a completely different life, but that's okay. I just love to see a black woman be in love, a beautiful black successful family. That's all I need. That's it. Yeah, I agree with it. But you guys have Savant on your podcast, and she's like, man, like, you know, her favorite leisure, actually.

She's like go to the gentleman's club. Yeah. We're trying to convince him. We're trying to get her to go to Houston with us. Yeah. Love Savannah. Man. They ripped her apart for that too.

They did. Why? They was clipping it everywhere because they thought you're a married woman. And it's like, okay, so married women can't have leisure activities that they enjoy. No. But they first of all, they thought she meant the male strip club. Who goes to a male strip club? We don't want to see no magic mic.

We're having a dick, but not that kind of dick. Nobody want to see that lame as shit. No offense to the male strippers out there. That shit stinks. But that ain't our cup of tea, though. That's a cup of tea. That's a cup of tea. But I think, like, again, this woman, believe it or not, has a life outside of LeBron.

She has friends. She has businesses. Right. If she wants to go eat some lemon pepper wangs. At the club. Right. Who cares? Because she has friends.

Because at the end of the day, yes, she's married to a guy that's worth over a billion dollars, but she's still a woman. Yes. And women, her age, do things like that. The husbands aren't worth a billion dollars. Right. So why can't, why does her husband's worth? take her outside of what normal women her age do. But that's what Lex just said.

It's because people tend to not look at people who are in a certain tax bracket or a certain level of celebrity. Fame success. Yeah, they don't look at them as humans anymore. You're right. And that's these LeBron stands. Because they'll be like, I'll be at home rubbing that meat right now.

The niggas. The niggas. Yeah. They feel like I would be at home rubbing him down with some hot shay butter oil. So they feel like she should be doing that 24-7. Yeah.

So, because that's what they would do because they love LeBron. I don't think LeBron has a problem with the love and affection that Savannah has poured on him since they've been together. And I don't think that's why he doesn't have... Yes.

If he doesn't have an issue, why do you? Yeah. That's, you know, that's what I never understood. If the person in the relationship, if he or she doesn't have an issue, who are you to have an issue with what they got going on? What about your household?

Because people are weirdos and in their households be fun. They do. And everybody wants to pretend like they got the perfect everything. Yes. And then be so judgmental. I don't care. Yes.

I have, I have. A lot of what you see on the internet people saying is projection. Yes. And I think once a lot of people realize that, you'll stop internalizing the things that you see people saying online about you. Because a lot of it is just projection because that's actually what's going on in their daylight. Yes.

And they wanted to be going on in yours. So, yeah. Would you go to strip club? with your significant other? Yes. Yeah. All the time. Yeah, I love the Shrip Club.

It's a vibe. Because why not? It's your name. That girl is doing her job. Yeah, man. She ain't worried about you like that. Have a good time. Let her dance on you.

Let's eat some wings. And the Shrub Club DJs. And then you will go home and put it on him, huh? It depends how drunk I am. Hold on now. We're too drunk. I'm going to sleep. You might have to wait till the morning.

That's why I said these young holes, the best put him to win, this put you all to sleep. Sometimes you be too tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. Too tired. I'm tired.

Are we partying? Morning sex we cool, though. Morning sex is a group time. That is. That is. We got to get that nap in real quick. But no, I don't see a problem going because, again, these girls are doing their job. It's fun.

Like, less, you know, have fun. I need a club. Did y'all see the interview I did with Haha Davis? I did. And about him and his wife, him and his girl. Yes. Y'all open to that kind of stuff? No.

No. I mean, you were so quiet. You're like, yeah, we saw it. Yeah. I need my man to meet for me. I mean, you ain't no way you could watch your man do something. People, I'm sorry, I don't judge people who are in, swingers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't like extremely horny people, Shannon. Like, people that are too horny, y'all trying to go to this, they go, y'all going to do all this, y'all got to swing from the ceiling. Because where did it stop? Exactly. You're insatiable. It's like you always don't need something new. Yeah, yeah. And stopped when he's seen that

Mandingo taking it down. That's when it stopped. That was broken. That would stop before. He should have kept that story to himself. Yeah.

He drank too much of that. He did. And I get it because we look tipsy too. But you know what? Yeah, I don't know. I might have had to be in Quantimo Bay.

Waterboard meat. Yeah. Mm-mm. I would have. And then, you know. You got to take to the grave. I don't know why people be coming. I already told them.

I said my cats are going to be, my cast is going to win like a thousand pounds. Same. All of them secrets I got. They come in with me. Loading them in the ground. And then you see, afterwards, he had to go on the internet and apologize. See, you're messy.

I like, you're messy. He's like, nah, that didn't happen. Oh, it definitely happened. Oh, it happened. Oh, it happened. But what did you think was going to happen? Yeah. Ha-ha wasn't laughing that day.

What shit funny today? What shit funny that day? Yeah, y'all rolled for that now. Man, Ha-ha-Goopee. It wasn't nothing to ha-ha about. He is a good person, but I think a lot of times, again, we are people that are extremely open, and I think everybody should be able to be sexually liberated

and talk about their experience and things like that. But I do think it's a little different when you're in a relationship. I don't speak on Drea in her sex life. I don't speak on. It's probably out of the change. Drea Bredby. Ooh. She gets.

I do. But I must say. Come on, Drea, damn. What? For him to kind of tell his wife, you know, story like that. Tell what you was doing. Talk about what you did. Well, clearly he didn't do what that other dude would do with.

That's the problem. He wasn't hitting on shit. That's what I think is the issue, though, when you invite those type of things into your relationship because it's like, what if this person ends up satisfying your partner more than you do? Yeah. You can't be mad because you invited it in. Yeah.

He used to say, guard. He should have called the guard that day. You need to call that guard. But that's the problem. You don't invite that man in it and that man dropped that. baby arm on the table. Oh, Lord. And then you just got a baby leg.

Yeah. Or baby tall. It's not when you said, no, I was just playing. I'm just playing. Oh, God. That ain't, that ain't.

Man, shout out to Haha Davis, man. I can't believe y'all. Y'all did that man wrong. I'm just saying, you know. Don't you have people, people be messy and they'd be like, y'all wrong today,

but they brought it up first. Damn. Shed, you out of line. Let me ask you this. the Daphne-Joyd situation. Do you feel like women of black ain't no women of color? We by ourselves.

I ain't included nobody else and ain't no women to color. Come on you. It's black women. Yeah. Y'all fight y'all battle because y'all ain't fight with us and we ain't fight with y'all.

So black women. Do y'all feel that they'll judge more harshly about their sexuality? Because there's been a situation where other women have done similar things like this, been on camera.

Yeah. And nobody looked in it for the worst. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, for sure, I think black women are always judged more harshly when it comes to anything that we do. A black woman who was in that situation wouldn't be on a press run right now, if I'm being honest. People wouldn't be invited home on their shows. They'll be like, oh, she's a slut. Yeah.

I think this just goes to show what we deal with as black women, you know. This is no shade to Daphne. I think when you have a moment, you take it and you do what you want to. You know, she's on Cam Newton podcast. Yeah. She's, I can see. She put out an ad. That's an ad.

She'll attract a woman. That's an ad. I know an ad when I see one. I'm not mad at her. That's what you're supposed to do. But seeing the reaction of people the way they treat her, even there ain't no tapes outside of me, Andrea, doing nothing. But the way people act towards us just because we talk about our dating experiences. And we get treated like, oh, my gosh, you would have thought that we had killed somebody's mother or something.

Yeah, I get. Fuck Day Mama. Even with like the way they treat Megan the Stallion because of her lyrics or things like that. And it's like they treat us like we are just the worst thing ever. Then you have this woman who has a sex tape. She's getting for not one

but two niggas. Ain't no, that's what you like to do. Whatever the situation may be. But they're like, oh, you see how feminine she is and how soft and how beautiful and how this and that? It's just like, are y'all for real right now? Y'all dad? Yeah. But this is, like I said, no shade.

to her. It's just interesting. Yeah. It's interesting. Barry. Go ahead. I'm listening. I was just going to say, like, I feel like we haven't seen a black woman be in a situation like that and get the same type of attention and all the right. Well, she ain't going to become no billionaire if that's what you're asking. Well, she said she was like, when people are comparing her to Kim Kardashian, she was like, I love that. That's what she said.

Well, I hope she get a product line. I hope she get a skincare line and come out with some skims or Kim, What, it was skimms and spanks and all what. I guess they call it dance. Dates is crazy. Dates is crazy. I have to see this and be like, no, did. The newest tracks. Let's go.

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With the cat? That shit changed with the cat. Yes, the cat Williams, girl. What's you putting my girl drop? Hey! I was like, wait, what cat? No, but yeah. She thought another range rovers was on the way.

Damn. That'd be a G-Wag. Oh, no. But, yes, you changed how everybody, I think me, like I said, me and Dre have been doing this for a while now. And, like, we see a lot of trends in podcasts. Yeah. And one thing, we've never changed our formula on what we do. We just watch what other people are doing.

And when you drop that Kat Williams interview, everybody changed. Everybody's trying to get an interview. Yeah. Everybody's trying to get that clip. Trying to make people say something to the point that they're forcing it. Yes. Everything changed in podcasting after that. Do you know, the thing is that I tell people with Kevin, like, you try.

I said, no, what I do is that when you come on my pod, I allow you to tell your story. You can tell your story better than anybody else can tell your story. And I allow you to tell it uninterrupted. Yeah. We really, like sometimes we have stuff that come in and guests will say, can you clip this? Take this out. No problem. But for the most part, our pods are uninterrupted.

That's why they last two hours. That's what they're 215, 2.30. Yeah. But I'm not, I'm asking you to tell your story. Now, if there's some part of your story that you don't want to share, that's fine too. I'm not going to keep prodding you trying to get you to have a moment. Right. Nah, it's not about that.

But I do think the thing is that when people come sit across from me, they see, I don't judge them. We're going to have a good time. We're going to laugh and joke. We're going to get up. Did you enjoy it? Hopefully, and go about your day. And that's what Kat did. Well, you should have talked.

I said, but I've never told anybody anything else. I've never cut anybody off. I've never said, when you come on this show, that's your opinion. That's your view. That's not my. I'm not speaking. Yeah, we're the same way. But people got upset with me.

I think people were more upset with me about who he was talking about more so than what he said. Well, he said this about that. You should have cut him up. I don't know if it's to be true or false. But that's his story. I'll lie him to tell it. Everybody that's come on here before. I said, you didn't tell me to cut off, you didn't tell me to cut off Steve.

You didn't tell me to cut off Steve. You didn't tell me to cut off anybody. Yeah. But I should have cut him off. I think a lot of people want people to argue, too. Yes. I want to hear for that. No.

No, no. And at the end of the day, we've grown. Like, you shouldn't have to censor people. If you know that it's something that you don't want out there, don't say it. Or, like you said, pre-production. Yes. Let me know, and I can get it taken out. I'll clip it out.

But if you don't say something, cool, clearly you're cool with it coming out. That's what I'm cool with it too, because I ain't the one that said it. And I think you interview very well. Thank you. You have not, like a lot of, because you're a really fun. It's been, I'm not saying that it's over or whatever, but I'm saying like, I think I'm a comment. reader. And I honestly, I study a lot of podcasts because I like to see what other people doing. But I've never watched an interview. I'm like, oh, my gosh, he's not doing a good job.

You know, I think a lot of what people get mad at, though, is because in the podcasting game, you know, we're regular people per se that created a platform. So a lot of times they'll see former athletes or former rappers or actors or anything. They come in this space and they take over. But one thing about podcast that I've learned, if you're good, it's going to float to the top. And if you're bad, you're going to sink to the bottom. I've seen some of the A-list, actresses, actors, start a podcast, and that shit stinks. Yeah, because having good conversation is a skill. Yeah.

And I think the thing is what people don't realize is that if you are somebody and you're starting a podcast, that might get people to initially watch you. Right. But I'm going to be back here no more. Yes. And they're not going to stick around. And if they do come back, it's probably going to be because of the guest that you know. Yes. Not because of you.

Right. Right. And so that's the thing. And I think the thing is, and I ask people, I was like, okay, what should I have done differently? Let's just say for the sake of argument, you have a podcast. If Kat was on your show, would you have cut him off? No. I said, so why you said I should have cut him off?

Oh, it's because of those 90 plus million. Exactly. Okay, I see now. So we're going to give you your flowers. Well, thank you very much. A great job. I appreciate that. Yes.

Marriage. Where are we on marriage? We want to get married. We close together. married? I do want to get married, but sometimes I do ask myself, do I want to get married because that's really what I want or do I want to get married because that's what society makes me feel like I should be doing by a certain point in my life. And if I don't do it, I'm a failure as well. So right now, me and my therapist is digging in today. But I will say

for the past, in my 20s, I didn't really care about getting married. And I don't know. When I turned 30, I had this epiphany. I was like, oh, I need to get married. Like, I have to find my husband. I'm not having kids unless I get married. And then now at 35, I'm kind of back in a space of trying to figure out if it's really what I want. Because I think when people look at marriage, they don't look at all of what it really entails. Yes.

It looks good on social media. Yeah. The nice wedding is great. Being with this person and y'all look good together and y'all got great chemistry, all of that stuff is amazing. But, like, it's so much more that goes into marriage. It's for rich or for poor. It's in sickness and in health. Sometimes you got to know when to shut the fuck up, being honest.

Yes. I got to get that last word in. Women love to get the last word in. Sometimes you just got to know how to be quiet. It's just a lie that comes with it. And you have to be okay with compromising a lie. Yes. And so I be just asking myself, okay, girl, knowing all of these things,

do you really feel like you want to be a white woman? Yeah. Yeah. And sometimes I don't know. Yeah. Let's. I definitely do want to get married, but I've realized, like, marriage is probably going to look a little different for me. Being, like, the traditional, like, I do want to have, like, a house with my husband and things like, but we're going to need some space.

Like, I don't mind him having, like, a little pool house or something in the back, y'all. Okay. Sleeping in different bedrooms. That seems to be a real, that seems to be a theme now. Yeah. I need seven bathrooms. Oh, there you go. So we can have our master bedroom.

But he also has his bedroom. Yeah, yeah. I have my bedroom. Whenever we do want to sleep together, like, I don't know. I just feel like traditionally, like a traditional marriage is just being in the house and we have to sleep together. Yeah. I don't think that is for me. I don't have children yet either.

So I don't know if I want kids or not. I really don't. So that's another something that I would have to deal with. Yes. Because I got good jeans. Niggas won't these jeans. You know, they won't get high. They want within them jeans.

They want that's what I'm. You got, damn, stay focus. But you know what I'm saying. But no, yeah. And seeing, that's the thing with me, I want to have kids. Sometimes I just be like, do I want to get married? I just, I don't know sometimes. Because then I look at so many, I know so many women who have been in marriages who are unhappy.

Yes. I know more women who are unhappy in marriages than women who actually are. And so I'm like, why do I want to give up my freedom? Yeah. And when I think about freedom, I be thinking about them kids. Really? Jesus. My nephew's going through a stage right now where he's very attached to me.

And I love it and it's so cute, but also I can hang up that phone. Yes. And go to bed. I can't, I don't know if I could do that 24-7. Him being in the house. Yeah. Bigger commitment. Having kids or being married.

Kids. Because that's lifelong. Yeah. I can divorce show it. Yeah. You start getting on my nerves. I think it's so crazy that. people just have oh we had a one we oh I'm pregnant we gonna keep it that's so crazy to me

it's so common now that people are just having kids oh he got money oh she was fine that is the most insane thing to me to bring a human in this world yeah because somebody got bread or somebody would look good oh my god think it only lasts until the child is 18 like no no y'all is lifelong y'all are going to have grandchildren together y'all have to go to college graduation High school graduation, the recital. All the grandparents together. Yeah.

It's a lifelong bond that you're building with this person and it's not to be taken lightly. Right. At all. And we've taken it too lightly. Would you go out, okay, be dating someone if they had a baby mama

or baby mamas? Yeah. Mama. What? You said, Baby mama. Do that, s.

Mama. Don't add that it. What about the babies are grown? Oh, I would really be okay with that. Yeah. But would he be okay with starting over? Oh, because you won't care. Yeah.

Okay. Okay. You don't know if you won't kids. I don't know. I don't know. I'm still on the fence about it. But how old? Let's just say for the sake of argument, you say you're 35.

So you're going to want somebody around your age. Yeah. Okay. Now, you do realize that probably going to high school graduation at 60. You're okay with that? Yeah. 60. He'll be, by the time you have a kid.

Oh. You got to realize you got to put 17, 18 years on when you had a kid. Yeah, about 50. Okay, so you 50. He's going to be 68. Okay. Okay, I mean, hey, so you 30. So how old is he going to be?

He's 35. You put 17 on the dad. That's 52. Yeah, he might be a little. Here you go to the timelines. You better stop with the time line. No, she got the timeline. But I'm saying.

Oh, you might get you a little 25-year-old. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. But that doesn't matter to me because I feel like when you live a good time. good life. People's life expectancy is getting longer and longer. Like it's not like 53 like it was back in the day. 70 is still old. No, it's not. Do you see somebody 70 year old? I know. I see him. I'm 50. I'm about 58. They be fit. They be healthy. They be looking amazing. That's on the outside. Now, he ain't lying. He said on next five. I wish you were you right. Joker drinking

crude juice every morning. I wish you were right. He got to let that demon out. Hey, he got, hey, see y'all don't see, he got that chair be going up the stairs and sitting in that chair going up the stairs. What does he call life lives? Easy list. Y'all are crazy. Oh, my God. You know what? Did you see the mean?

Which means? The mean said stepdairs are the men that women wouldn't date if they didn't have kids. Oh. You know what? I'm not going to lie. It is. sad, but I feel like men are getting more strict, too. Even men with kids.

You know how many men I have met with kids? And they'll be like, I don't date women with kids. Like, they don't have kids. The audacity. But the women. But so a lot of times, like, these stepdads are kind of like the men, they say they don't have standards, whatever. But honestly, I would say, I don't want to speak on my sister too much because that's her business.

But my sister is in a relationship now. She has two kids or the second. baby dad. And this is like, I love my brother-in-law. Like, he is an amazing man. And he stepped up in a, he is an amazing stepfather to my first nephew, an amazing dad. And he is a lot more man than a lot of these niggas are, you know what I'm saying? So it takes

a special type of person to raise a child as your own. Yes. That's not your own. Yes. To step up and to really just like be a man because she has two boys. So he's raising another you know, another boy that's not here. So I don't necessarily believe that to be true. I think that when you decide to be a stepfather, though, it is a big role. It's a huge.

Because I grew up, my father passed when I was very young. And so I had like a stepfather figure. And it was just kind of like, when my mom broke up, he abandoned us. And I never heard from him again. Now, this is a man that was living in the house. I looked at him like a father figure. So I'm very skeptical on even when I'm dating somebody meeting their kids, being around them. Because I know how that feels.

Because you feel like, oh, this ain't my kid. I don't got to deal with it no more. but I've grown attached to you. So to me, a person that's a stepfather that really sticks around and holds it out, like, Waka Flaka, he adopted Charlie, his stepdaughter. And he's still in her life, even though they haven't been together for years. Right. I commend me in like, that's a great, that's a great man.

Because, you know, you see something that's an unetheless job because, okay, you raise someone, you come in and they're at a very young age and you deal everything. You give them everything but life itself. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, well, I want my dad. And I'm not trying to take you from your dad, but just to excommunicate me. I don't know if it was a skill or something, but I saw something on social media where the mom, the guy said he had raised it since he's like 15 years and they only had X amount of seats. So the dad was going to get the seat.

The stepfather wasn't going to be able to go even though he had paid for everything. That's crazy. So he's not going to be able to go to the graduation. So I stepped in when he did. And so now he wants to come back after the child is of age. Yeah. And you cut me out. That's why men be getting angry.

But a lot of times it'd be an ego thing. A lot of times men will be a shitty dad. Then all of a sudden another man comes along and doing what you're not doing and all of a sudden they got an issue with it. It's the same thing with a woman. A man might not want that woman. Yeah. But let another man show interest.

Oh, my goodness. Hey, baby, what you do? Whoa, whoa, you're told me to go F myself. You ain't want nothing to do with me. Why do they like that? Women the same way. Don't y'all pretend like y'all like women the same way. No, I like nice men.

I'm not even going to lie to you. Like, I don't like men that treat me bad. I don't understand the allure that some women have when it comes to men who are not nice to them and it makes them want them even more or want to try to like prove them, prove to them that they worth it or that they are good catch. No, I feel like as women, we are already to catch.

Like, men are supposed to pursue us. Why are you trying to prove to somebody who already don't see your worth that you're worthy. Yeah. I think that's strange. Like, you should want a man that at the bare minimum is kind to you. Yes.

You know what? This, this, and people still talk about it, and I don't know why, because I think they have a wonderful relationship, and that's just from me on the outside looking in, Russell and Sierra. Yeah. They call the man Lane. They do. I don't step.

That's his son now. Yeah. Obviously, it's biological father. But you couldn't tell if you didn't know that situation. You can tell that's not his son from the way that he treats him. And Sierra seems like she, and I know people like, well, Sierra was this, Sierra was that. Whatever somebody was before, whatever Russ was before. I'm talking about what are they now?

And I will never understand why people have an issue with a man stepping up and being in a child life when a father don't want to be there. Like what's wrong with that? How does that make somebody corny because they loving on a woman and living on their family the right way and showing us a good example of what healthy black love and a healthy black family look like. How is that corny? I think that's how, that's why so many people are fussy in the mind.

Yes. We f*** up as a generation to think that that man is corny considering what they show us and what we see on the internet because it looks like nothing but positivity. Because he had out there smoking drinking, smoking weed, and all kind of foolishness, acting crazy, chasing.

Yeah, and that goes into that stand culture I was talking about earlier. Just because you like somebody's music or like their art or whatever it is, at the end of the day, if that's what y'all call corny, that's what I won't. You want that. If that's, if that's, I'll take it. If that's what, because to me it's not corny, being a good husband, a good father, that's what we consider corny.

We need to look at our community. That should be the standard. Right. If our community is calling a man corny for being a good husband and a good father, we got to, we got some conversation. Yeah, we got a real value. We got a real value. Do y'all feel like people do that because they didn't have that example? Like so many people in the black community didn't have their husband growing up.

So that's maybe why they think it's so boring. I think that's a part of it. Like I said, I don't know what goes on in their household. They look very happy together. I'm okay with that. I don't take any more or any less out of it than that. I'm not trying to micromanage. So you try to tell me they like this all the time.

I don't care what they're like all the time. That's how I look at it. I ain't try to judge anybody. Who am I to judge? somebody married? I ain't married. Right. Do you want to get married? See, I think, I think I'm more along your lines. Okay. I think marriage is going to look very, very

different because I think the thing is, is that traditional, a lot of women want a traditional man, but don't live in a traditional time. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I want him to open the door. I want him to do all that, but I still want to be outside all the time with my girls. No, that ain't how tradition. I don't know how with your tradition. So you want a woman at home? Yeah. I mean, she can go out with a lot.

a girl? Okay, okay. Yeah, she can go out with a girl. No, now, she can go out with a girl. Now, do you agree with, like, what you were saying earlier with, like, LeBron, like, you want somebody that works, or would you, like, a stay-at-home wife? I understand. Look, this is what I know about men that are high-value men. They normally want someone that's readily accessible. Oh, okay. If she got a job, how you're just going to pick up and go? She's not going to be accessible like you want it. Yeah. And then you're going to be mad. And then when she's there all the time, like, you won't, you're mad. Damn you ain't got nothing to do

Pick a lane You in the slow lane to left lane Or you in the fast lane to left or you in the right The slow lane You gotta pick a lane you gotta understand What are you asking for? Because if you somebody of value Normally

I don't know if I still have that same value But I like to think what I did I wanted someone like hey I need you to come do this I need to come go here And they were able to do that But I understood what came along with that Right

Damn that's gonna be hard to find Like somebody who got something going on, but really kind of available? No, no, no, no. If she got something going on, look, I got an assistant. I can hire people. I got a cleaning service. All the stuff that maybe if she was just like stay at home. She had my wife.

I can find somebody to do that. Okay. Everything that she would have to do, I can hire somebody to do that. Okay. But if you have a job, it's a little bit different. Yeah. And so, you know, hey, if you got a job, I understand that, I have to do a better job of planning, knowing that.

Knowing that you just, I can't give you 24 hours to do this. I can't, hey, baby, we go in here or we're doing that. I can't do that to you. And I wouldn't do that to you. Because I'm of the mindset I'll never ask more than I'm willing to give. Okay. That's why me asking somebody to come over to my house when I was younger in the middle of the night. Because I'm not, you're not going to call me at no 2 o'clock until I come over.

That ain't you asking me. So I'm damn sure nothing to call you at 2 o'clock and ask you to come over. That's just how I'm. And everybody's not like that. Yeah. Because most niggas will be like, I'm on no. away. Oh, man, I wish I might get up.

I mean, before the phone hang up, they knocking at the dog. Ben, I wish I, I'm, I'm mooted. He said, I'm not pulling up anything. No, hell not. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted, and you can access it to whichever podcast platform you just listen to Part 1 on.

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