Club Shay Shay - Club Shay Shay - Drea Nicole & Lex P Part 2

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

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Thank you for coming back. Part 2 is underway. The Summer Walker skit, wedding skit for our album. How was that experience? Y'all'll be doing the fun stuff. I need to get outside. I know.

That's what we told you. I tell you what y'all said August. But nightcap and the port, we're going to take y'all outside. Because we're going to show you like a good, like it's going to be. Because I know, that's what I need Houstonians. I need Houstonians to show me what it's like in Houston.

That's who you got to go out with. I feel like it's so many. What is it called? implants transplant. Yeah, trans. But we're going to show you what a real He was in the 450 cc.

I think about 385. Baby four. He got eyeball work. But there's so many transplants out there now. But I feel like if we go together, we would have a good time. But the Summer Walker skit, it was really, really fun

because Lex and I did that whole thing impromptu. Yeah. Wow. So it was like off the top of our head. They just kind of gave us the set list and gave us the people that she was going to have on an album. And we just kind of came up with like some banser back and forth to talk about the people. The World Cup is underway and it's been incredible.

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they collaborate with everybody in our culture because that's what we need to do. Yes. You know, I'm not bashing any other podcasts or any other, anybody else, but in our culture, we need to keep it in the family. And the fact that she included us in her album was like such

a big deal. Because, again, me and Dreher were like regular girls' podcasts. So the fact that we have built this and we're able to come on your platform, do Summer Walker's album. That's like a testament like, yeah, the people, they fuck with us. And anybody can do this, you know? That's awesome. Yeah. Meg, she's from Houston.

And she had a very public breakup. I'm a firm believer. If you date in public, you got a breakup in public. Yeah. And if I would say anything and I'm not being judgmental here, I just think she probably should have waited just a little while before a public. posting so much. Hell no. Put that nigger in the dirt.

I'm not keeping no nigger's secrets. You got me. She did the right thing. She probably took a little sick of that Cheekers tequila that she got and went online. Yes. You embarrassed me. You heard my... No, no, but I'm saying. No, how about keep the relationship in the beginning private? It's too late now?

No, but I'm saying, but that was my point. Yeah. But I think it would have been hard for them. It's Clay Thompson and Megan the Stallion. Even if they were at dinner, and she can't go to games. So it's like they're kind of, when you are that high profile. You know, you got to post it. You ain't got to put it on IG. I mean, you don't have to put it on IG, but we was going to see it anyway. Yeah.

Courtside at all his games. Damn, I can't post on the boat. I'm on the boat with my man. And I'm having a good time. I can't live. Now you go over to my man, my man, my man, my man. My man, my man. She loved her man, her man. I'm just saying. I just, I don't know. I do kind of feel like even when it comes to breaking up, you should just do it in private. Yes. Let people make their assumption. Thank you. Thank you, Drake.

And I told it before I said this on our show, just because you blast somebody on the internet, that doesn't mean shit. That's not going to stop other women. Other women trying to get at it. It doesn't mean anything. You just blasts him, oh, okay, cool. But like, what is that really doing for you? It might make you feel good at that moment. But later down the line, I feel like us as women and men, too, like anybody who acts out on the internet. Unless you mentally ill, you're going to look back on it to be like, damn, I wish I wouldn't have been to be it.

Unfollowing. That's so childish unfollowing. Y'all really do that. That's what y'all doing now. Y'all is unfollowing. That's a thing, huh? I'll say this. I think that she let us know he was a whole-ha-n-n-kid-nick.

Oh, there you go. Not a real. Not a real bitch. Not a real big. Why he like that now? Because, I mean, the bare minimum in a relationship is to be faithful. If you can't be faithful, just don't be in a relationship.

Now, there's bigger things that people break up over, you know, compatibility. I'm growing, you're gone. But cheating is such a high school, college-ass shit to do. Like, we've grown. You know what I'm saying? So I just think, like, that was some fuck shit.

And I think she was an emotion on the moment. Maybe she shouldn't have done it. Maybe he died. He shouldn't have put that dick in whoever he was putting in. Oh, man. He need to go to hell. You can see you take her side. You don't know that to be true.

She made a pan of baked beans for him. Did you see that whole spread? I love beans. Yeah, she cooked baked baked baked beans. I definitely feel like I agree with Lex. Because I'm on her side too. I do feel like cheating is the bare minimum. Like you can be faithful.

If you're not going to be faithful, why be in a relationship for somebody to begin with? And if you are a man who you don't want to be faithful, find somebody who ends that polygamy sheet. Find somebody who. Find a ha-ha, David. Oh, oh, wait, too soon. Yeah, very, wait too soon.

Find somebody who okay with you dealing with other women and she'll just turn a blind eye to it or not even turn a blind eye. It's an understanding and an agreement that you all have. But at the end of the day, if you get into a relationship with somebody and you have them thinking that you're going to be a faithful man, I do think that that's for a bit. But sometimes I definitely just feel like us as women, we be doing ourselves a disservice by going off on the internet. Because it's still going to be somebody who's going to be okay with dealing with all of that shit that you're not okay with dealing. So what are you really stopping to be honest? And especially once you move on and you have to be able to.

and you find your man and you find the situation you want to be in. What was the point in all of this? Well, I think, too, not saying that she was right or wrong, but I think now they've learned about her. I'm just saying in general, yeah, for sure. Well, I think that kind of, it kind of releases a signal, though, because even though he is probably is going to get another woman and move on and be happy. But honestly, when men start acting out like that and you let it be known, the value of women

that they get honestly goes down. Like, a lot of times when you see a man of value, is what society says, and you be like, why is he single? Because a woman that's worth it down, the women that's really worth it down, don't want that shit. I don't think men of value a lot of the time want successful women anyway. Well, I'm not saying successful women. I'm saying women of value.

So a woman of value. Somebody, he'll buy Bentley. Okay. He ran and roll. He's buying Bentley. He's buying Royal Colourness. He was buying Bentley. He did.

Yeah, yeah. But all I'm saying is, though, because a man of value, we tie men to their value as in what your worth is. Yes, for sure. A woman of value is what we bring to the table as far as, is she still in her childbearing years? Can she cook? Do she look good? Her personality, is she nurturing? So it's a lot of things that go into a woman of value.

So I'm not even saying successful woman. I'm saying a woman that really wants a marriage and kids and all these beautiful things that men consider valuable. A lot of times it kind of knocks. them down on the toilet. I don't know, because we be seeing it. We live in Atlanta. Like, it's plenty of women who still will go and have a baby weed. But is she valuable? I don't, I don't think they care

about this. To be honest, I don't. They fuck. What do you think, Shannon? I mean, I think there are. I don't think, I don't think one iota. I don't think it's going to stop anything. Yeah. Just like, it's just like famous women might be with 10, 15 different guys.

They still go, somebody going to still, a guy going to still want to get I think women want us want a lot of things to be true, but just because we want it to be true, that doesn't mean that this was going to happen and come to fruition. They need to stop. Everybody need to stop. Yeah. It's too dirty out there.

Did you hear what Cardi B. said? Cardi B said, her next relationship, she's going to keep it private. She should. Oh, Cardi, go keep it private, huh? Yeah. Uh-oh. Nah, that's how about that? There you.

Come on that. Now, I think she should. He's going to be carrying that baby. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, okay. Like you said, baby. Oh. Baby. He got four.

Yeah, he got my folks. That's too much fun. My back, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't care about, I can't carry about 10 pounds now. That's all I got. You know, I think that's different. No, you say you're in that gym. You can carry more than that. Yeah.

Probably about 135. Okay. One 40. On a good day. Baby, only 10. 135, 140. No leg date. That'll be my leg day.

No leg day. Okay. No leg day. No, I like Cardi for that. I'm a Cardi Stan. I love Cardi Dan. I like Cardi, too. I think that that's good for her because, again, I think that all of us women, whether you have a regular job or super successful, we all deserve happiness.

Yes. So whatever it looks like for you, if that's being private, go ahead. Yeah, that's what I agree to. I agree to private. Even to yourself until there's something worth publicizing. Yeah. And because you know how people are. People, everybody that clap ain't applauding you.

Yeah. And that's what people need to understand. Man, people was waiting for, do you know how many people was waiting on this to happen? Yeah. And what did they do? I told you, I told you. It's so crazy.

She thought she was leaving one and got what a worse one. Yeah. But it's like, everything. I'm like, well, damn, y'all, what did she do to y'all? Yeah, I don't understand why people care so much about people's business. I say this all the time. People who be so worried about what other people are doing to where it's like a think piece and a dollar piece all the time.

Yeah, yeah. worry about your life and what you got going on. What this person is doing, even if she did leave this person and quote unquote get with a worst one, why do you care so much? Yeah, it's not true. How is it affecting you and your life and what you got going on? Correct. People are miserable and I think misery love companies a lot of the time.

Yes. And that's where all of that shit be coming from all of the commentary. Because even if he was a better man than who she had loved, they were still going to find something wrong and find something to nitpick about the relationship just because they don't want to see her happy. Yeah. Yeah. And people feel like anything that you post on social media, it gives them an opportunity to have it. Absolutely. I mean, and they kind of do. It does. That's why you keep it off.

That's why you keep it off. Because they're going to look. They're going to say what they want to say. They're going to make up what they want to say anyway. They are. Because if they don't know, they're going to make up lies. Yeah. So, hey, you know the truth and just live with that. Yeah.

And even once they know the truth, they still going to make the lies. Because the lies are more entertaining. Yeah. It is. Did you see the Knicks? The Knicks had a no-sex rule. The owner, Jim Dolan, the Knicks, when they got to the playoffs,

10 weeks, they were not supposed to have sex. Oh. Well, how would he know? He was hoping they were taking them at their word, but it seemed like Kat and his her fiancé, like, they didn't necessarily adhere to that. Yeah, my husband played for the Knicks. Sorry.

Maybe that's why the Hawks keep losing. They cuts up. But I think to think, look, you hear like fighters they go away yeah so it'll be easier to go away because there are no women there right i'm home every night my girl my wife taking a shower she gets up the shower the water glistening off her body what i'm supposed to do not glistening you do be glistening i mean whatever it worked all they want yeah but you if you only think uh cat and his fiancee were the only one they did that yeah they was that and jordan is beautiful too yeah yeah yeah

That's what I can't say, I got to get this in. Yeah. You know, one time it ain't going to hurt nothing. What do you think to long? Is how long could you go? How long less could you go without sex? You know, I'm going to give you $1,000 a day. I'm never fucking a year.

I'm greedy now. I'm greedy before I'm horny. I went, look, I went along 15 years without sex. Oh, yeah, from the time you was born until you're 15 years. Yeah, exactly. It was a long 15. It was a long 15. It was just wasn't no 15 to 30 or no

25 to 4. It wasn't nothing out of that. It was a long 15. Oh, my goodness. But you know what? As I've gotten older, I think I'll be busy a lot. It's not like something that's like on my mind all the time. But you know,

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No, that's a big turnoff of me. Don't come to me telling me what you got, how much money you make, what you got going on, like, especially how fine you are, especially to the point that like the whole conversation is centered around you and what you got going on. Right. I don't like that. You ain't want to ask you nothing about me?

Right. Especially on the first day. Okay, okay. I'll see what you're saying. Like, come on. Why are we talking about how much? I remember I went on a date with somebody a long time ago. And first date, I knew how much money he made. Damn.

I knew what type of cars he had. I knew he had like five cars. He was showing me pictures of his house. Really? Yeah. He's trying to get you up in there. Yeah, and I mean, that's cool. I would have been there.

I would have been in there, Shannon. I would have moved. She ain't going to get with a $1,000. A $5,000 a $1,000 a $1,000 a $1,000. It's a $1. getting channe. She can get past. I might have to get a per die.

Half a day. But yeah, I don't like that. I don't like bragging men because I feel like, and that's what anybody though, to be honest, men, even with women with friendships, like anybody who brags all the time, it's annoying because if you have it, it shows. Yes.

You don't have to go around standing you all the time. I think for me, it's like, I don't like men that are like friendly to the point. Like, I like a person that can work the room. and talk to everybody. But, like, if me and you had a conversation about somebody, we necessarily don't like this person or we don't fool with them, and then we out in public, you're like, oh, what's up, bro?

Or you don't like that. Oh, you don't like that. I think you need to stand 10 toes down. If you don't like this person, don't like them all the time. Like, when you see them, all of a sudden, it's like, it'll be a person that we know and talk shit about you or talk shit about me. And you're not having my bag or having your own bag. It gives me the biggest in it.

So I thought how they spoke the hand to that. Just be like, what's up, bro? And keep it pushing. But all that. Hey, man, that's my dog, man. Hey, bro, tell him how we... No. That's too much.

I mean, I really fuck with her, all that. I don't like that. I feel like if you have... You and a person like, y'all don't really deal with each other, stay ten toes on it. Could you date someone that isn't your type? So, like, let me say, I hate what people say. I ain't got no type.

I don't, though. She really don't, yeah. Damn! I really don't. I like who I like. He could be short, he could be tall. He could be... I don't want him to be too short, though.

You at least need to be tall. So you do got a tight. I mean, you gotta at least be taller than me. And then you don't got to be that tall. How tall are you? I'm 5 too. Okay, well, damn. So I at least want to be 5.5.

No, he can't be 5. You want to 6 foot. He at least needs to be 5.8. That's a little bitty little time. Yeah. He could be 5 8. Your kids are going to be 12 years old this tall. That's why all the niggas.

Ain't no tall niggas no more. But you know what, though? That's not necessarily true. Because if he have a tall dad or something, he might, the baby might end up being tall. That's true. Everybody's short. Everybody's short now because he's tall-ass niggas little, little bitty with everybody.

Yeah. Everybody little, no. They love little women. Yeah, because five eight. You know, they're fun size. Yeah, but five eight is not tall for a man. You know, he liked that. You know, he'll spend them.

That's why I said, do you have a height preference for you? He said, you know, once a part of time. What's the way? Hey, hey. I'm getting to the age. now is what I can. You can't be choosing. You start getting your late business and 60s.

Uh-huh. Yeah. But as a man, I feel like you always have options. Because men, you know, they say y'all get more seasoned as you all get older. You're only with women as we get older. If you have money, you have options. So that's you. Oh.

You have some options now. Let me say the poor crew, the girls are going to watch this episode. Like, even if they've never seen the episode, they come in. And I'm telling you, your DM's going to be lit up. You don't have some good. send is in there too. We got to find you something, Shannon. Like, there's no reason for you to be single.

Why y'all got to get me with somebody? Because I feel like you deserve that. You have had an amazing career, a hall of fame, all these amazing things. And you just told us you don't even take a vacation. I don't take a vacation. Like, you need to be with a beautiful... But I am very private. So you need a woman in a little, like, forced to be a self-care.

No, you didn't care. He got him. Oh, he got him one. You got it. Come on, nah. I love a private relationship. What a bad first date ideas? Bad, a picnic.

A picnic. A picnic. A coffee date. Damn. You were like a coffee? I don't want to go to the club on the first day. I do like coffee, but like, I don't know. To me, a good first date is dinner.

It's nice. It's an intimate experience. We're getting to know each other, especially in like a dimly lit restaurant. Do it got to be mascaros? Do it got to be Del Friscoe, State 48? I want to dress up. Yeah, so I need to dress up. But it has to be somewhere we can really have a good conversation.

Yeah. There's a lot of nice restaurants that are like family-owned that are not necessarily extremely expensive. What about Houston? Houston is a nice first day. Now, you can't take me to Hals in Atlanta. Have you ever been out? I've been in a house. It's two damn lives.

Yeah. It can't have. That man be on the piano. Yeah, Hals. Yeah. You might as well take me to opium. Chalk. Chalk.

You know, I'm a chops guy. Chop. Yeah, I like chops too. Yeah. I think that taking somebody on a nice first date, because I want to see what you got on. Don't you want to see what I got on? I already need me. That's why we're going on a date.

Well, we got to make, let me see what else you got. Hey, that's why I took Tom Brady in my fantasy draft. I already know what you did this. I ain't picking black. I think that dating in the beginning stage, this is the honeymoon phase. Oh, yeah, yeah. So you're impressive. Yes, let's, I'm putting my best foot for.

You put your best foot forward. Yeah, let's have a good time. Let's dress up. Let's do this because y'all know how niggas get. Once y'all get the coochie, we fin to be at Chili's. That's how y'all do. Or be in the house watching Netflix. You know what I'm saying?

So I think in the beginning stages, yes, take them to the nice, nice dinners and do that. And I think even when you do get a relationship, like, I have a rule like, we got to go on at least three dates a month, nice dates a month. A month? Yes. What about one? No. You should go on a day at least once a week. And I need at least two weekends.

Like, we're taking a trip. And sometimes that's a road trip somewhere, but we got to go somewhere. No, I can't, my knee. My knee. No, you can. Even a staycation. You can do a staycation. Yeah, in a house, right?

No. Oh, you do at a hotel. You're doing a hotel. Like, there's a risk. There's a ritz here. Take it to the ritz. We can go get a massage. There's a four seasons.

You got to do a staycation. if y'all can't get away from work. Yes. I can't get. I mean, in May, I taped 27 episodes of night count and another five episodes of Club Shaysh. So that's 32 tapings in 31 days. So you tell me the time that I had to go to.

Okay, so we got to make up. Them days roll over. You got four days in June. You got to make it up. We work 14 days straight. You could at least do one week. I work a lot too. We're on tour.

So you ain't going to be able to get out? But I make my days. But I feel like you make time for what you want to make time. Everybody say that. It's the truth. You do. You prioritize what you want to prioritize. If it's important to you, you'll find a way.

When y'all was building this, y'all was still going out on dates like that? Yeah. I never stopped going on days. Damn. We make time. See, the thing is, I can compartmentalize. Like, when I'm actually playing, if I got stuff going on, me and my girl got something going on.

I got issues with my family. I can compartmentalize that. I haven't been able to compartmentalize working in relationship. Yeah. That's the hard thing for me. I just think it's because it's not a priority to you right now. If it was more of a priority to you, I feel like you could find a balance. You just ain't found that woman.

Yeah. And you have a problem that's going to really make. Because you need somebody that's going to like, you need somebody strict like you that can mold into everything and it just works. You got to find that puzzle piece. Because I think like you're past that point of. of, oh, well, I'm going to change this about me. I'm like, you are, you can't teach your old dog, new tricks. You are in your, so you need somebody that's the same way and that fits in that puzzle for you, if you haven't already.

That's why he's going on vacation. Ah, six weeks. Tell me that. Because I saw Jalen Brunson say this. Why is it more accepted for black women to date outside of their race as opposed to black men? It's not. I don't think it's accepted either way. see how they do Serena Williams still?

They don't do, they don't do Serena Williams like they do Jalen Bronson. They like they do some of the other guys. I don't know. I disagree. You know, they'd be having this saying. Hallie Barry was what didn't get killed. Oh, they told her up.

I mean, yeah, they did. They told Holly her. Nah, they said what you, Bernan, see, that's why she went to the white. That's why she was across there because look what he did. Yeah, I mean, was they wrong? But sometimes it is what makes them switch sides. Well, what, damn.

And when everybody get the switched sides up on. No, y'all be switching. Y'all be over there. know it anyway. No way. Y'all, nothing made y'all switch size. Y'all just be going. Yeah.

I don't know, but you know, I think black women get a bad rip for that too. Because, you know, they be saying, like, the heart of the wig, the stiff of the wig, the more chance you got to get in a white man. They say they love them stiff wig. They do. They say the black women and white men date have a certain look. If a white man hit on me, I know I need my hair done. Yeah. Immediately.

I got to go to the beach salon. I know I don't fuck up. I don't wore these. My wig too long is crusty. I got to go. When white men, they'd be like, ooh, bon quisha. Oh, they want to pull it, huh? Yeah, yeah, they'd be like, what is going on.

Maybe they like the stiffness. They love the stiffness. They love the stiffness. They love what they used to. But I just, I love black men. Yeah. I am, there's just nothing like a black man for me personally. I just could not see myself.

No. You never been intimate with a white man? I went to all white school growing up. I told you this. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying. All my first relationships, my first love, it was a white. Oh, my God, my God, damn. I know.

And I'm a won't queen, but I went black and I never went back. Come on now. I went brown and I got down. Oh, you did? Yeah, so, but again, that experience, the experiences that I've had with black men is just like, it's important. You know, it can't be bad. You're like, no, I love black men. That's all I've ever dated.

Like, I've never dated outside of my race. Right. I went on a date one. one time with a white man and it was horrible and then I was like I'm never going to do it again. She said he smelled like Newport's. He did smell like Newport's. But that wasn't why I wasn't interested in dating

outside of my race again. It was because he left me in another city because he got mad because I didn't want to give him none. Oh, they did that too. And I was like, if this is this is what you're all be doing too I'll stick with niggas. I'm telling you, that's what people don't realize. You're not all of a sudden going to go

get like an Asian man, an Indian man, a white man, and all of a sudden you're introduced to the sweet side of life. A man is a man, baby. Yeah. Yeah. So if I'm going to deal with a man, unfortunately, I am straight. I don't like women. If I'm going to do with a black man.

Hell yes. But as I get older, I don't know. I'd be opposed to dipping my foot. I mean, I'd be cool with dipping my foot back in the pond, maybe. Uh-oh. Let's see. You're a deep foot back in the pond. Yeah.

She's going. Love has no color. Oh, now love had no color. Oh, you need to leave. Les, you hear what she's saying? She need to go. That what she says. She said love had no color.

Yes, it do. And it's black. We will who they want to be. Now, my experience for the past 35 years has been with black men in relationships. Like I said, I went on that one date this time and it didn't work out. But I'm not opposed because I don't know. This is going to be my last relationship, my last Negro relationship. This is going to be the last one.

The last one. I don't know if I got it in me no more. I might be open to expanding my horizons. Yep. Well, guys y'all better make sure you get it right. When you guys had the British podcast ishing gigs on and said there are no baddies in Atlanta on your show. You guys got, I mean, how often have you guys received backlash for having certain groups of people or certain types of people on your show? That's not, I mean,

why you have this guy. I was like, bro, you got to expand. I can't have all black people. I can't have all this group or all that group. The only way to be able to grow, I mean, just you see Popeyes. They used to just sell fried chicken. Then they sell chicken tenders. And then they got a chicken sandwich because they wanted to broaden out.

McDonald's just don't sell burgers. They sell ice cream. They sell breakfast. I don't know why people just like, like we are only supposed to have black people. and a specific type of a black person on the pod. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, we get a lot of backlash all the time on the internet. And I don't think we got backlash for having them on. I think it was more so about what they said.

Okay. That offended a lot of black women. And then they took it as we were like laughing and in agreeance with them. But I also think a lot of people took what they said out of context. They never said that they don't like black women. And that's what they tried to turn it. into, right, okay. They just said they felt like that it wasn't as many baddies in Atlanta as they thought it would be.

And I feel like that's opinion-based. Yes. Why, again, why do people care so much about other people's opinions? Maybe they feel like it's not that many bad bitches in Atlanta. That's okay. And maybe you're not a baddie anyway, so why you care? And that too, hey, I'm glad you said it. And also for me, in my point of view, you can't tell if I'm from Atlanta or not.

I look like an Atlanta woman. True. Seriously, walking down the street. So for my thing is like, no, she's like, no. shade, like, I'm not caring what these men are attracted to. We're here to Key, laugh, have a good time. Now, should we have maybe gave a little pushback? Maybe, because they took it as we're talking about all black women and this and that. But at the same time, I'm not here to do that. I'm here to just key and her laugh, have a good time. I wasn't offended as a black

woman. You know what I'm saying? It was a lighthearted banter type of conversation. We laughed. We're like, oh, we're from Texas. Well, we're not from there. And again, like I said, to me, can't tell the difference if I'm walking in Atlanta nobody's going to be like, oh, you're not from here. I look like I'm from Atlanta. Correct. So to me, it was just, it was kind of silly. Right. And I think that's why they more so got mad too, because we laughed and we

were like, well, we're not from Atlanta. We're from Houston, so they didn't offend me. I mean, it did it because I'm not from Atlanta. Right. But I also looked like an Atlanta woman. Right. So I'm still not offended. And just because they got upset, that don't mean you have to be upset. Yeah.

People don't understand tolerance. Just because a one person believes something, I can fundamentally disagree with that. But I understand that humans are very complex and everybody has, you know, different beliefs. Like tolerance has just completely left a building when it comes to podcasting. But you do realize, and I think 50 said this, that no matter what you say or what you do, somebody's going to be opposed to it. Yeah. Even if you had a gay pushback, there's going to be a segment of that. It's not that many baddies out there.

Right. I mean, and again, like, people can have. their opinions, why do I have to, just because you feel like what this person said is wrong, argue them down. A lot of the time, I think people don't realize when we have these podcasts and these platforms and we invite people in our space, we're inviting you in our space. And like you said earlier, you can have the opinion that you have, even if I don't agree with it. I don't have to disrespect you. Right. I don't have to go off on you. I don't have to cuss you out. And I think a lot of the time in the comments, that's what they want us to do. That is.

And then when you don't have that same, and then when they tell you that you're in the wrong and then you're not apologetic about it and you double down, like, okay, I said what I said, and I think sometimes that makes them moving more upset. If you want that type of podcast, go to 60 minutes, go to 48 hours. They argue a lot.

Their platform where you can fact check and do all this other stuff. But we're here to have a good time. I'm trying to get you to learn a little bit more about the guests, let that guess explain to you their side of the story and how they came to be. That's what this is. This ain't 48 hours.

And it's beautiful black women everywhere. We all know that. So you think I'm going to sit up here and argue with that about, child, please. Right. Blown out. You have been blown out? In my younger days, yes. Of course.

Is there or should they be an expectation for being flown out? No, when I was younger, I did not feel that way. Okay. I feel like if you want to fly me out, cool, we can have a good time. But if I'm not on that, I'm going to let you know before I come. Now, once I get there, you feel like you can convince me and then you get upset because I'm still doing what I said I was going to do, then that's on you. You can't feel plagued because I already told you.

You told you, and you ain't coming out there, but it ain't going down like you think. Right. Okay. I do think women should be honest about those things. Okay, okay. But, yeah, I don't feel like a man should have the expectation just because he's flying you out. Yeah. I agree with that, but me personally, if I'm flying out, that mean I like it. We's fucking. We get into this.

That was just me, though, because I feel like when I get flown out, obviously, that means it's vacation time. Yeah. And when I... And on vacation. Yeah. So... But honestly, it's been a lot of times where I've been offered to be flown out, and I'm like, no. I, you know how many times? Like, men, they, one thing about it, they may not want to buy a bag or pay. rent or whatever case may be, but they will be like, okay, but I want to take you on a trip. I have turned down so many, like, luxurious vacations because, like, I don't like you like this. Yeah. It's mutually beneficial.

That's why I think they be okay with doing that versus buying the things. Exactly. So I'm not going to let me come over there and sleep. Yeah, anybody pay no rent. Right. Exactly. So I, when I was getting flown out in my day, it was because I'm going with somebody I like. So flown out, you stay at his place or you get in a hotel?

I've done both. Yeah. I've done both. Like, I've made me and booked me separate hotel rooms. Yeah. And then it's been me and that I was actually dating that I stayed in the same room with them. I've had a situation where I was, like, dating a guy long distance, and we were getting to know each other. And I didn't want to stay at his house.

So, like, he booked me a room. Yeah. But, yeah, I don't really like to get flown out to your city, though. Oh, you like to meet you. You like to meet on your turn. Well, not even that. I don't want you to come to my seat. Let's go somewhere.

Oh. Or like even if we go to like, you know. So that way don't know, they don't know you, people don't know you all up in you. Yeah. But even before like I was known, like we can go to like a Malibu for the weekend. Like let's go do something out of the, like let's go do something fun. Okay. I don't want to just come to your city and you got me sitting in house with your homeboys.

No, I ain't a homeboy. Who's sitting in the house with somebody? Well, that's what they be doing. That's what they be telling the story. That would be telling me. They do that. They do that. I don't know what they do.

They do. They do. They'd be whined the girls out. You know, I'll be on TikTok scrolling the stories because I can see what the young host is up to now. He didn't pass the torch down good enough. Yeah. They be getting flown out, be sitting in the studio.

Sitting in the studio. What? Yeah. I feel like girls in our age group was definitely doing that too. Yeah. So we indeed did pass the torch down. They were sitting in the studio too. But hanging out with your homeboys, I just more so feel like that's setting.

standard. Like, you need to let a man know what you're okay with it, what you're not. And if you're not okay with it, why are you sitting in the house? Leave. Yeah, I don't like to fly out to a do-sit. Like, if we're just meeting, like, say we met out of town. Yeah. It's a long-distance thing. Like, I had a first date, like, we had mutual friends. He took me to Paris for the first day. What? We went to Paris. Yeah. And it was a... Where are you going to second day, heaven? Uh-huh. But you know what? No, but the second day, we went to Miami. And we still had a good time. So, yeah, I went on the first day.

States of Paris and I had a ball. Man, what? Hold on. Hold on. You all got to help me out. Man, because I've been out of loop. You know, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't, I ain't been out of town since 96. Okay.

96. That's the last time I've been out of town. Okay. I flew somewhere. I went a long distance to meet somebody. Okay. Prior to that. So I'm only going really out of town, you know, on a vacation, twice.

Okay. And my whole life. You go to Paris or you go to the Maldives. You go to Bali. a Monfe Coast, what do you go after that? We go back again. We still get experiences, but honestly, like, I liked him. So I just wanted to spend time with him, and he loved to travel.

Oh, you love to travel, huh? He loved to travel, so it was cool. I'm going to get y'all a book. This is what the Morphe Coast looked like. A book is crazy. A coffee table book. You're out of line. So you can have something to inspire.

Damn. I mean, because I'm looking at these. Hey, TikTok, not, uh, Jordan had to get me on my TikTok. I ain't even know I had a TikTok till last year. I'm weak. That's crazy. Somebody run their account. But I'm looking, I'm looking at like these women, but hold on, y'all be really going

to them all these by y'allself? What you mean by ourselves? Like, solo? Yeah, women, actually women be posted there in the mallee's and Bali by their self. Or they got an old dude my age? I've never been on a solo trip. But there's a lot of women that do, do, do beautiful. So you go way over there by yourself?

Are you scared? No, I don't feel like there's no reason to be scared if you go out the country by yourself. I thought that was a- If you stay in a safe area though, I think that's the key. You have to make sure you stay somewhere safe. Like I've only been on one solo trip by myself, but I went to Columbia. But I stayed in a very safe area. And I mean, me and Dreher have been on trips together.

Like, and it's no men. Like we went to Europe, we went to Abitha. Where else did we go? We went to Madrid. We went to Madrid. Like, yeah, like women do travel together or solo, like. And we paid for it. We went to Turks.

Yeah, we went to Turks and Kay because we had a ball. It was a grand old time. What? Yeah. So women, whether you're there or not, the trips are getting trips. The trips are being had. Yeah. And sometimes I think, too, if women, that doesn't necessarily mean she's solo.

Maybe she just don't want to post. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking like you think of. Because sometimes they don't be solo. I know you. They're just not ready to post that men.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. You figure, yeah. And it'd be certain. He probably bawled with a gut. Dibbid type dude. Dibn't the type dude. Because, hey,

because when they be poster, it'd be football season. So it ain't a football player. And it'd be basketball season. It ain't basketball season. I'm just saying, it's baseball season. I just say it. I'll say this.

The one country I know that if you see a woman post out there, she's definitely with a man is Legos. Because you got to be hosted in Legos. And Legos is a ball. Yeah. I had a grand old time. And what about in Ghana? I see a lot of people

Well, they're going for Daddy December. But Ghana is a place. What's going on in Ghana? It's called Deadi December. What happened with Daddy December? It's like a turn-up. That's when everybody's on vacation. Okay.

So like, that's what they call holiday. So everybody's off work and everybody goes over there. So Ghana, you can kind of navigate solo and figure out. But like Legos, like you have to be hosted when you go there. Now, a lot of people I know, they have friends and family out there. So a lot of women, if they are Nigerian, they can go out there. But like, the American girls, if you were Lego, she went a digger. Okay.

She went on nine times out of the team. Nine times out of ten. But it's a good time. It's a good. It's a great time. You know, I got a little Lagos, you know, Nigerian. I'm a little Nigerian. See, and you need to go.

It's history to your DNA. So you got to go experience that. You need to go in December. See, you get rich and right. You haven't done Legos in December. In December to go. You got to go for like a week. week. We got to give him a pamphlet on how to rich write.

You need a pamphlet. Because someone that never gave us on me. Yeah. They don't fucking game up now. Do you like when men approach you guys, we slide to your dims? Like, hey, let me holl at you. Hey, when you be here, let's get together. You ever dated somebody that's slitting your DMs? Yeah, I have. I have. I know Lex. I know you have. Why do you ever realize? Because I already know. Drey is kind of like the level hair.

Drey turned up too now. Do you. A. I do. Don't let her, hey, don't let her fool you. That's a sneaky and sassy. And you know what's crazy, though, Shaney? The more it's crazy because, like, the people that be in my DM,

it would be like, oh, my God. But these things be lame. They be so lame. Do they say anything, or they just give you the emoji eyes, then they give you the hard eyes? They don't be talking about nothing. Like, for me, it's just like,

if you DM me, okay, that means you're interested. Let's exchange numbers. Let's start playing a date so we can go and talk. I'm not no young. I'm not trying to be. be funny. I'm not for

to screenshot you and send you to no shade room. Like y'all, like, it's just be too much. You got to jump through. I'm not doing all that, baby, because just like you're who you are, I'm who I am too. So, I think it's just like, if you're going to approach me, you need to come correct. Yes. Come correct. So what you doing me

today? Yes. Oh, my God. Do you have a date? Yeah. Damn. He got to come with a date, planned out of the rip. He got to come with a date, planned out of the real. You got two times to text me what you're doing without no plan before you get blocked.

Damn. Tray, what type of time do you want? Why are you wasting my time? What do you want? Why are you here? I'm trying to holler right quick. So what's really going on? Yes, but if you ask me what's you doing

and I tell you what I'm doing. Okay, you do. And then you text me again. I'm in California. Okay. When you this way? Or when can I come your way? And then I tell you.

And then what's next? Okay. Plan it out. Exactly. I'm in person. Then you're going to wait a few days. I'm going to wait a few days. And then you're going to text me again.

What you doing? And then you're going to be like, well, I'll be in Atlanta in a few weeks. Yeah. And then you'll text me again. I'll tell, look, I'm going to be in Atlanta this time. Okay. Or I'm going to be wherever you. Let's just say for the sake of RU.A.

I'm going to be in Houston. I'll be in Houston also. We should link up grab a bike. And then when you get to Houston, what's you doing? Okay. Instead of calling me and be like, hey, I made dinner reservations at Maestro's. game. Oh, okay.

I'm about to pull up. What's up? Yeah, let's do it. I'm going to be there at eight. If a man calls me and says, hey, I made reservations tonight at eight, can you be dressed? Are you going to be ready to go? Yeah, I'm going to be ready. Damn.

That would be. Guys do that? Yes. I mean, it's a handful, but there are men that do that. And I think once you've experienced one, then what you're doing, niggas, it'd be like, leave me alone. Oh. Like, I had a boot hand for. So y'all just messed up the game.

Yeah. You got guys out here that's by a rain rober, planning days, reservations going on trips. And then y'all talk about what you're doing today. I had a bouquet of roses. Exactly. It was like, I don't know how many roses it was. Maybe like 100 long stem roses delivered to my house.

It was like, be ready at X amount of time. And I'm just like, yes, this is how you date. This is how you show a woman like, yes. Man, for 100 roses. And at 8 p.m. I was ready. Oh, I already. No, that thing went down at midnight. Mm-hmm.

And you know that. Maybe we're all. Yeah, man, baby, man, look here. Be ready, eight, five-third of me on that thing, be butt-mart. What? Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah. He's your fucking booty ball.

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How long do you wait? I think it's about however you feel comfortable, however long it takes you to feel comfortable to get back out there and start dating somebody else. Some women move on really quick. Yes. You can get over situations really quick. Then some women, it takes them a little longer because once they heart get broken, it took a while to me and it put it back together.

I think that it's no time. frame, that's the correct answer. I just think you have to know when you ready, but I don't think you should jump back out there until you are because one of the biggest mistakes that women make is dating again before they're fully healed from their last situation. And like you said earlier, you know, now you bring in that trauma to somebody else who don't deserve it. I agree.

I'm saying like it's not no timeline, but I do believe in don't open one door if the other one's not closed. Yeah. Because I like to dib a dab, but I'm going to be. You spend a block? Oh, I'm going to spend a block. Oh, I'm going to spend a block. dog.

Come up. But we got to be done. Now, I don't spin the block. Like, if we broke up because you did some, like, horrible stuff to me or X, Y, Z, but, like, if it's just like we maybe not seeing eye to eye, yeah, I might, I might. I mean, how far we're not seeing out of eye? We can see better eye close up. Yeah, and I need to see.

Y'all need to see. Yeah, we really, we close up. See, and I'm that type of girl, like, you left your side. You need to come get in. I think I left my hair tie over there. Come on. I need to come get my hair tie. That's my favorite hair tie, Shannon.

Man, you left for sock. Yeah, I'm going to go. You can't go ahead. No, I ain't throwing nothing away. You're going to come get it. Yeah, and I'm coming to get your socks. We can send your legs. And he's coming to get molding that.

I'm asking the dog oil down. I'm getting my man. Oh, you're shining up? Uh-huh. From head to toe. No robe. Yeah. I'll send my sister to get my stuff.

Right. Same. I was getting somebody to get it. Oh, you said it's a sock over there. That's okay, girl. You can throw it away. I don't need it. I've seen women say they could live on a planet with no men.

Mm-hmm. No. We need men. Somebody got to kill the bug. Who started that? You see what happened? Women, they keep saying this, I can be, I'm independent. Yes.

But you want somebody to pay all, you do realize if somebody pays all your bills, paying your card note, paying your this, you're not independent. Yeah. Right. Fakes. Do they do, do they do they? But the independent women. aren't the ones saying that. But do they understand what independent mean? Yes, we definitely understand what, because we're doing it. Okay. Women are, we are, in 2026, we're the most educated.

We're buying the most real estate right now. We're really doing it. Now, I think the people who are saying that are like, you know, if we were on a planet when there was no men, we would be a lot safer because we need men to protect us from other men. You know, when I'm in a vicinity full of women, I have a ball. I feel very safe. When men are around, that's when I got. gotta make sure there ain't nobody. Who's gonna buy y'all range rovers in purses? Who's gonna buy it? She got a range rover. He bought it. No, she's on her third one.

But you never got the range rover had he not gave you one. But I was gonna get that range rovers. She got range rober money. You come down. I do. We got the rover money. I promise you, I could go and get, I can go. Johnny, where are you going to get your one?

G-wagon right now. Go get that thing. I don't want it. You don't want a G-wagon? I mean, maybe one day, but I just feel like I'm, right now, right now. I'm in my like investing era. You ain't rich. You ain't rich like you're doing to.

She ain't rich and right. No. But I'm in my investment era. Like I'd be taking my money and I'd be putting the market. I be putting it in my house. I'm really like looking at other house. Like I'm just a car is literally the last thing on my mind. So I mean, we got a little off topic.

But I just feel like women are, we're doing so much on our own. Right. We're figuring this shit out. I can understand why they say that. Right. But I need me a little peen now. Y'all got to stay on my planet. It's unrealistic.

I like to have a dick. I need my men around. Can men be friends with women, strictly platonic? Nothing involved. Hey, that's my home girl. We cool. Hey, we go out to eat. We laugh and talk.

Or he's waiting for an opportunity. I believe so. But I think the woman has to set that boundary. I feel like if the woman don't set a boundary, then probably not. because I have had male platonic friends, but I've never had male platonic friends that didn't have a crush on me or didn't try to hit on me prior to us agreeing

that we were going to be platonic. So I don't know. Because I do think that men still be attracted to you, but if you set that boundary and you let them know I'm not interested in that and it's no room for us to be anything more than friends, they don't have no choice. They don't have no choice.

Hey, man, patient. They'll wait 10, 50, 20, 30 years. Yeah, but I do think it's situational though because I do think there are men are friends with women and they're really not attracted to them. I think your case, you know, you've been friends with people, but they were attracted to you. I think men are around women that they're not attracted to and they're really friends with them. I've never seen that, though, because even with my friends, every dude that they've ever been

platonic friends with has always been somebody who has tried to hit on them or was interested in them. Damn. Damn. Does the guys pass matter to you guys? Because you hear that with a lot of guys, a lot of guys saying, I want to know who she talked to. I mean, look, women ain't going to tell you the truth. They say, boy, I ain't been with, hey, I'm 35 years old.

I ain't been with two people. The magic number is three. Yeah. Times five. It's three. I've been with three. But I'm saying, does that matter to you? And do you need to know, let's just say for the sake of argument, you're dating this guy.

His name is David. Do you want to know if he's been with someone famous in the industry like you are? Maybe they've been an entertainer. Maybe they've been a WNBA player or a soccer player. Do you need to know that? Do you need to know that? I think that's a male ego thing. That's more of something that the male ego cares about.

Me, as a woman, I don't care who you dated before me. Long as it wasn't one of my friends, one of my family members. And long as you ain't got no STDs. Yeah. And it's about how you care yourself. I don't care. Like, as long as you was not no whore out here and out here for everybody. Right.

I don't care that you had a past. Of course, if you're in your 30s. You're in your 40s. You dated people before me. Yes. And that's okay. I expect it. But some women say it's okay.

You're done with him. You would feel some type of way if Lex dated someone from your past. You would feel some type of way if Dre dated someone from your past. Absolutely. Because there's too many niggas in the world. Why are you dating somebody that I dated? Why are you dating somebody that I talked to? I feel that's a little...

As my friend. You're a weirdo. But I'm saying people do that. They do. I've had it done to me. What? Yes. ain't no friend

to her no more, are you? Yeah, but it's okay. What you're going to do? Get her back? No, I'm not. I'm not. What you got? What you got?

What people be doing stuff. They'll be doing too much. That's that. But I feel the same way. Of all these women in the world, you have access to as many women as I have. Yeah. Man, you know,

hey, it just, how it just happened? Mm-hmm. You know, it don't just happen. It's orchestrated in women. Yes. You have been planning.

And if somebody tried to put this playing in motion. Because you can always be like, no. No, not. Yeah. But I had it happened to me, and I guess it more so hurt my feelings because she didn't tell me, and I had to find out through another friend. Oh. And it was like, you could have just told me.

Do you think she was afraid it might hurt your feelings? He might be hurt? No, because it was like, he was so, it was just such a, I mean, me and him really dated, and then, like, they had really started dating, but it was, it just got, it got too weird for no reason. Yeah. Only for him to, neither one of us are dealing with him now. So what was the point?

So because if y'all, if you and her hanging out, he can't come around because he gonna feel, he's gonna feel some type of way, you might feel some type of way, she might feel something. I mean, it's crazy because I didn't. It was just weird because I would just rather have heard it from her than hurt it from somebody else.

So it was kind of like, it was pointless. It was really weird. I'm gonna feel the type of way. Because you got no beast and fuck with no nigga took me on a date, tried to hollet at me, had sex with me, none of it. Yeah.

Damn. Yes, it's strict as fuck up here. So it's one, if you say, you know what, hey, bro, me and old boy don't been intimate, cool. But you say, dude, tried to holl at you and have been on a date. That's still off-limits. Yes, because I also just feel like it's so many other people in the world for you to date. Why do you want to even date somebody who likes me, who was interested in me? Because I truly feel like attraction don't die.

If somebody was attracted to you and they liked you at one point, they might still like you. And you was first choice, obviously, especially if your friend was always around. Right. You know what I mean? So I just think it kind of gets weird like that. And to me, as a woman, you should want your own person and like you and want to date true. I don't know.

I just think it's strange when friends do those type of thing. Yeah, it's hard. I mean, to be in a relationship or a big, I mean, I've heard people getting married to somebody, their homeboy girl. Now, I will say this if it's different. Now, I'll say this. If it's somebody that I went on a date with and nothing came from me. And then he wants to talk to my friend, but he's very intentional and serious about dating her. Yeah.

And then they have a connection and they feel like they might be soulmates. I can understand that. And I'm not going to get in the way of it. Because, oh, we just went on a date. But if it's a situation where somebody is trying to talk to you and you know it's not nothing with them just trying to like, put you for a little bit or you and you go and talk to him, now I'm side eyeing you because you're weird. Yeah. The Jackson said

Because that's Oh yeah, yeah. She said she's keeping it in the family. That's a little too far, though. Oh, no, no. They're cousin siblings. She's not from good coochie, though, clearly. It got to be fine.

Gotta be. She got that sniffle. Hey, yeah, I don't know. No, no, I can't do no best like that. Oh, that's crazy. Their cousin said somebody that dated one of your friends? Yeah. You would?

No, I've had that. No, I'm saying, would you, would you date a woman who is dated one of your friends. Y'all had before. How close? Exactly. I know your best friend. Oh, hell no.

Like even if they just went on the industry. No, no, no, no. Even if I knew he was talking, no. Absolutely not. I'm the same way. Absolutely not. No. Hell no.

We already know you strict. But I fuck that because that's loyalty. Yeah. Now, best friend? Yeah. No, man. Come on. How?

First of all, She'd have been sitting up there with him. And now all of a sudden we show up to a vent, he's there, and now she's showing up with me. Right. Or she used to show up with me, and now she's showing up with him. Strange behavior. Yeah. So now I'm looking at you like, bro, you've been eye hustling her for a minute.

Mm-hmm. This ain't just happened because we broke up. Yeah. You've been waiting on your mom. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You just been waiting for coach to put you in the game. Okay.

You put me in the game. You made the shot, but I'm just saying. Yeah. Oh, no. They're being like that. I'm telling you. Yeah. Yeah.

You're having to watch people. That's slavic behavior. I don't, I look. All my homeboy married anyway. Any ones that I really, really rock with like that. So you said they ain't got to worry about it. No, no, no. But I don't get lying there.

But I ain't really never been close to people like that. I mean, that happened to me one time. Really? Yeah, my home boy. We would be his best friend. And I was dating this one shit. And, uh, man. We broke up.

We were just like dating. There wasn't no serious like we broke up. You know, you're in high school. There ain't no breaking up. You just stop seeing each other. Yeah. I ain't seeing you no more. You just, man.

That's all right. Yeah. He'd be like that. I say, Lord, have mercy. He said, damn that's fucking. Yeah, but, but you know, look, it wasn't that, like I said, we've been best friends. So I was like, hey, it is what it is.

That's what you wanted. Hey, you know he's my best. best friend, you know I mess with her. If y'all want to do that, take off. Yeah. Toxic. Who's more toxic, men or women? Equally both, in my opinion.

Because I think women be doing toxic shit. Yeah, y'all be treacherous. Not treacheries. Treacherous is crazy. But I think it's not talked about as much because I think it's an open discussion about what men do and the things that men do. But I think, you know, women, we have our ways. Yeah, I do.

Y'all's meeky. And that's the thing though Women are more sneaky than me Women are a lot more player too Yeah, y'all be doing some stuff Man look If a woman find out you did something She's gonna get that lick back

But her lick gonna hurt She'll hit you way harder than you hit her You do something bad to a woman You look up next week She's on a vacation Going shopping with a n-and you And you're struggling right now So she's purposely showing you

This is the type of n-I should have been dealing with Rather than fuck you Oh, it's going down You're gonna hurt that man You know that. Now you know he ain't got it like that. Because I should have been with your ass anywhere, and I kept telling your ass that. So you got to hit him when it hurt sometimes.

And that's toxic, though. You know the man pride. Mm-mm. Sometimes you don't even care. Yeah, no. Once you, but that's the toxicity. That's the old, that's what I'm saying. That's the old.

That's the old. That's the old. Yes. There's been a rebirth in legs. Man, when I tell you, I was in a relationship and the things that that man did to me, I could really just go in, and I didn't. I just let go and I let God, and I received my blessings from cutting that off. Right.

So now I've learned when somebody does you wrong or hurts you or does weird shit to you, you just let God deal with it and you just continue to move in grace. I don't know. You should always be worried about how I'm coming in and win. Damn, great. I'm going to let God handle it a little bit. It will be 10 years later, 20 years later. Keep your eye.

If you ever did something messed up to me, keep your eye open. No, no, no. God will handle it in the afterlife. I'm going to deal with it in the meantime. Right now. Right now. In this life. Exactly.

Yeah, he'll deal with it on the other side. I got you on this side. But while we here, I got something to say. Uh-huh. Bad. Are there any breakups you regret? Do you ever look back on a relationship? Say, damn, I let that go too early.

I don't. Because I think everything happens for a reason. I think if things don't work out, it didn't work out because it wasn't supposed to. Like, maybe y'all weren't aligned. in that moment, it was the wrong time and place. And maybe, too, sometimes it's just not your person. Just because you love somebody alike, I think people try to force situations alike.

And just because you want to force it and you desperately want it to work because you love them, that's the person that you're supposed to be right. And I think we have to be okay with God's timing on things. I think that when you find a person that's for you, you're going to know. Like, that's what everybody who has found a soulmate says. Like, they're like, when you know, you know. And I truly feel that way. And I haven't, I don't know that I've had that experience yet.

I've had it before and I did feel like it was my person. But then certain things started happening. And I was like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't think this is who God got for me. Yeah. I agree. I just feel like I don't have one that got away. Yeah.

I feel like when I leave situations that I'm really, really done. Yeah. The way my life just goes, I'm like, this was a great decision that I let you go. Right. Like, I don't have not one person. from my pastor. I'm like, dang, I wish I, not one. Right. Because sometimes you ask God to show your side and I just happen to be standing up on the tree and the guy cut the limb off and hit me in the head.

I'm telling you. Was that God or was that the man just, I was just at the role place at the wrong time? Oh, my gosh. You'd be like, not that sign. Yes, send me something else, please. There's something else. Yes. Yeah.

Should you delete, if you have, you posted your ex on social media, you start a new relationship Yep. Are you deleting all the photos that you had up before? He wouldn't have to begin with. Because you're not posting anything to begin with. No. Once I get a ring, I'll post my man. But up until then, no. I believe in a private life. Yeah, see, that. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy because, like, me and my early 20s, like, I didn't have this job.

I wasn't doing this. So I used to post my man all the time. It was on Facebook. I was a Facebook girl. Oh, you're going to fake it? And it was so funny because we talked about this on the episode with Jess Hillerous. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I went on my Facebook. and he's still all over my Facebook. You ain't going to delete him?

I mean, my Facebook is private, though. Like, nobody can get in there. Like, nobody is just... Except your friend, your friends and my family. Because that was when Facebook was really for close friends. So nobody can see it, but they're definitely still there. But I don't be on my personal page like that. Yeah.

I don't post, though. Right. I'm not posting a man. You go through your guy's phone? Have you ever gone through a guy's phone? Once, and I never do that shit again because I lost 20 pounds. You saw what? Fuck a diet.

If you want to lose weight, go through that nigger phone. He had something on there? Yeah, he had some shit up in there. And that shit stressed me out, Shannon. I was like, I would never do this again. He had somebody over the balcony? No, it wasn't. It wasn't nothing like that.

But it was definitely just like, I don't know. It wasn't no shit I was expecting to see. I wasn't expecting to see him talking to so many people. I could not believe that shit, but that was my fault because I didn't have no business going through his phone. Why you went through his phone? I was just curious. He handed it to me, and I was curious.

So I said, he didn't hand it to me to go through it. He handed it to me to do something else. But I was curious. And I was like. She said, well, why? You found what you was looking for? Yes. And prior to that, I was always the type of girl that was like,

I don't go through niggas phones. I don't go through my being phone. I ain't going through no phone. Yeah, I'll never do it again. I never. And he's bliss. Yeah. Hey, what I don't think, hey, hey, go get, I bring the purse.

I am not going to your purse? Yeah. you must rather go in a person, then you find a condom, then what? Waterman gets, that's good. Maybe she had it for you. She's being safe. Why don't men be so upset when they find condoms in a woman's like, how old. Because that man, no, y'all ain't using them.

Oh. And it ain't the kind of age. Not freaky shathing him. Yeah, yeah. We don't use those. He's using Trojan and you got a mag to be your pro. Oh, love. Now you throw it up.

Oh, shit. Now you throw it up. Oh, my God. Okay, you're right. You're right. Hell to the dog. Okay. That's fair.

That's fair. Do you tell your friends about your relationship? Because that's a very, that's a very tricky situation. Yeah. If you do, how soon do you tell a friend about a new relationship? I tell certain friends about my relationship. I don't talk to all my friends equally about my business, if I'm being honest. So it's the ones that I feel like I can trace with the information and I know not judging me or like not happy.

if something goes wrong. Because I feel like sometimes, even when people be your friends, you know when they don't really be happy for you. Of course. Y'all can still be cool. Yeah. And I feel like people love you because sometimes it's not about too. It would be more so about them, you know?

Yeah. So I think you just have to have that discernment when it comes to talking to your friends about your relationship. Yeah, I agree. I feel like you should be careful what you share with your friends, especially if you're not going to leave that man. Right. That too.

You know what I'm saying? Like you know you're not going to leave and though, so when you stay and your friend who cares about you and loves you wants more for you, you're not going to want to hear that. Right. So I feel like that mess up your relationship. Yeah. So I feel like a lot of times I'm the same way.

I have certain friends I share certain things with. Have you guys, you've done, I don't know how many episodes, 100, 200 episodes. Have you had somebody on your pod and you've been Starstruck? Oh, yes. Starstruck, I always say like the closest that I think I've come, because I be keeping shit player, though. Yeah. You don't even know.

Even if internally I'd be fan girl and I'd be like, okay, let me keep it cute. Let me keep it together. Probably the most starstruck I've been is when we had Sierra on the show. Because I love me some Sierra. It's just such a surreal thing when you get to interview people. Yes. The people that you watched growing up. Absolutely.

She used to see on bees. Yes. Yes. So sometimes it's just like, wow, this is crazy. This is my life. But yeah, that was probably the number one person I was a little star struck. Yeah. I was definitely starstruck with Sierra.

But I always say this because like, T-Pain, college days. Like, I used to be in the club listening to T-Pain. So, like, when we collaborated with him, because we went on his podcast first. And we just really had a ball. Like, so that was like a moment. I was like, this is, like, really my job.

Then that was, like, earlier in our, like, podcast attorney. Yeah. So I was like, damn, okay, we're really doing something. We got something special. So it was definitely T-Pain for me for sure. When you, is there anybody that you haven't met that you like to have on the pod? Beyonce.

Beyonce. We gonna do you right, B, I promise. We can talk about sacred dogs. Y'all, y'all, y'all be, y'all be fan girl and too much. No, we not. We're not. We're going to keep it cute. Yes, we always keep it cute.

We know how to keep it cute. Yes, we really do. Do you guys ever feel the need to change your accent? Because I remember when I first went on television, I went to all these therapists and tried to get and try to enunciate everything. I was trying to be like Ed Bradley. I was trying to be like James Brown. And then I just finally read.

I was like, hold on. Charles Barkley. country than me. And they love him. So I'm like, no, I need to be more like Charles Barkley than Ed Bradley and James Brown. Right, right. I don't know. I never felt that way. Like, I feel like my accent and my voice is what makes me unique and it's what makes me stand out. And it's one of those things that either people really gravitate towards it and they love it or they hate it. Either way, it don't matter. The check's still clear. That's all I need to do. And I think, too, people have this misconception that just because you're Southern and you have an accent that you aren't intelligent.

The two don't correlate. I don't know what. Oh, you're sad if you're dumb. Yeah. Bro. Where did you get that from? Yeah. We educated.

We got it. We agreed us. Absolutely. And I think that's the thing about social media now with, you know, like I said, podcast and creating content. We are getting away from that cookie cutter stuff. I want to see people who are really themselves. Like, that's the content that I connect to.

Right. So I think for a while, people were trying to be like other people. but it didn't work. I think for longevity and anything you're trying to do, you need to be authentic. You got to be you. Yep.

I agree. You can be that more, you can be that better than anybody else to be. Yes. And I think that's what makes you you because they're like, damn, she really talks like that.

That is really hard for real. When people hear Ocho and I and Joe talk, like man, man, they talk just like we'd be talking at the barbershop but just like we're talking around the cookout, that's how they talk, yeah. No matter how profile someone is, there's still a human being. Yeah.

Now, everybody might not talk like that. You're probably not going to get this kind of conversation with Denzel or somebody like that. Right. But for the most part, yeah, this is who we are. But I think us being like more laid back, when we have people on the couch that make some more relaxed. Yes. So they get to see a side because we're not trying to be like so. We just, hey, what's up?

Yeah. And even with our audience a lot of the time, I think that's what makes us more relatable because I feel like it's so many of our audience members who are from the South who talk like us and sound like us. Yes. And it's nice to see people. like them in these spaces and places that we're in now, without changing ourselves. Money. What have you two guys learned about money? It takes money to make money. Like, being a business owner, oh my gosh. It's expensive.

It's expensive. You know what I'm saying? Yes. You have to pay them invoices, but I think I love being a business owner that, like, they know if you work with poor minds, you get paid. If you work with Lexpe, you're getting paid. And I take pride in that and like handling my business and being somebody that's like enjoyable to work for as well. Yes. I think everybody that works for me and Dre can say like I'm not necessarily a micromanager, but just get the job. Do your job. Yep. This will be a pleasant space for you to work in.

Just do your job. So that's one thing about, you know, money. When you see people who are multi-millionaires, they're spending millions. It takes money to make money to do. Yeah. And people don't understand. I mean, podcasting. Oh, no, to do a podcast right, you got to have camera, you got to have a film crew, you have

editors, you got to have producers, and you have to have graphics. Hey, that's, yes, and you got to have a social media team. Yep. It taught, yeah, it costs money. It does, it does. And I will also say, too, just as a woman, being okay with being stern. Yes. And knowing what you want.

Yes. And standing in that and not being afraid to, I don't want to say come off. like a bitch. But I remember Beyonce did an interview a really long time ago and she said in business, you could be polite, but you still have to be stern. Yes. You still have to let people know what you like. But it's crazy because a lot of the time I think as a woman, people will take it that way.

Like, oh, she's being bitty. Whereas with men, men can say the same thing and then, oh, he's a boy. He knows what he wants. He's assertive. When it's women, they don't take it the same way. So I think I'm becoming okay with stepping into that role of just being okay with being assertive. And if people don't like it, that's fine, but I know how I want things. Correct. And I'm not going to stop until it's exactly what I want. Yeah. You're going to do it my

way or you're going to go do it for somebody else. Or you're going to do it on the highway. Yeah. I ain't one way to do things. Because I'm paying. Right. Yes. You're not doing this for free. If you're doing it for free and you want to do it this way, okay. But if I'm paying you, or you're doing the way I say. Yeah. And it's okay to be particular. Like, it's okay to like to like things the way you like it. Right. Because you're the one with the vision. Right. Yeah, I don't micromanage anybody. As long as you do your job, we cool. We're the same way. Yeah, we don't believe in that micromanage.

Do your job. Long as you do your job and a timely matter, look, we know we got deadlines. We know we got to have this done. Do it. Just meet the deadline, mate. That's all I want. If you get everything done, if we got to have deadlines, this ain't got to be out by Wednesday, and you do it at 12-59, 1159 Tuesday night?

Mm-hmm. I'm cool. Yeah. Just get it done. I ain't fain to be, hey, you're not fend to be having my blood pressure running up. But I'm paying you and my blood pressure on. As soon as it's like, I'm feeling like, yeah, I'm having to pick up the slack a little bit. You got to go.

Yeah. You got to go. And when they come to money, pay them taxes. Put money aside for your taxes. I think that's a thing. Oh, my goodness. I'll talk about enough. Every time you get paid, put at least 10 to 20% aside for your taxes.

Easy. Easy. Easy. God, you have to. If you have to. If you have been, it's best to play them quarterly. That too. You don't want that money coming out once.

Oh, my gosh. When I say you, them first few years, I said, hi, hey, slow down, Uncle Sam. Even though it's the same amount, it's going to add up to that once. It's just something about quarterly, like, okay, that ain't that bad. Yeah, that quarterly don't hit as bad. You just met with that one time?

You have to make you made. All this. Yeah. I said, hey, y'all going to get it when I got it. You need to put me on the paint. Y'all got clara? Yeah. I need clorna.

I'd be asking, I'd say, which one of y'all are Uncle Sam? Right. I know you did a camera, you did a producer, you did something to be taking this kind of money out by check. It's crazy. It's crazy. It is insane. How is it working with your best friend? But I feel like it's cool.

Like it's great working with your best friend. But also I think a lot of the time people feel to realize that although we are best friends, it's still real business that's being handled. So sometimes you have to take the friend head off and you have to be business partners. This big business business is going on. Yes, and have the hard conversations and stuff like that. How do you have the disagreements, though? Because like you said, you guys have been friends, and when you became friends, you wasn't in business.

Yeah. And there was no money involved. It was just friendship. Yeah. And now there's all of a sudden, there's friendship and there's money. Yeah. And you can't let one get in the front of the other, or it will ruin both. Right.

I think just how she said, though, like, we have uncomfortable conversations. Okay. And also, like, we don't have a lot of ego when it comes to this. We know that, like, we are both here because we bring something very important to the table. Yeah. A lot of times when you see people, like, splitting up, because especially in the podcast, they cannot keep a podcast together. But it's because people start feeling like, oh, I'm the Beyonce of the group.

Everybody starts feeling that way. And it's just like, no, that's not it. And everybody came to see you always. Hey, come on now. So I think having uncomfortable conversations, understanding like, you know, sometimes you do need a little space. Yeah. being understanding, giving people grace. Like sometimes one person can't show up as much as the other, vice versa, whatever.

And that were humans. So I think just giving grace and being understanding. And like I said, just having, that's the main thing is having uncomfortable conversations for sure. But do you realize, like, I didn't notice it until recently. I mean, I heard, and I just thought they were just talking. But do you realize how many people actually want to see you guys break up? Oh, yeah. When I see some bullshit-ass podcast break up,

how everybody was like hoot and hollering about it. Like, it happens a lot. And I'm like, oh, yeah. Because it was like, obviously, Ocho, Ocho and I started this thing together and we just brought Joe on full time. But people are like, man, ump trying to get at rail who Ocho used to date.

I'm like, because she comes on, she had a little segment. Okay. How do y'all deduce that? Yeah. And when Ocho says up, oh, you don't want to give Ocho credit. Ocho name is all. always been in the title. Come on now. And it really dawned on me about a year ago. I like people are really trying to put doubt in his head and my head. Yeah. Because they don't, they, they know the

success. Yes. Could Ocho do a podcast by himself? Absolutely. Could I do a podcast by myself or with another partner and Ocho have another partner? Yes. Yeah. But it would be Uncunco and Ocho or Uncuncoe and Joe now? No. We understand that. But I didn't realize how many people And what I started to realize that everybody that applaud They aren't applauding for you No, they're not Yeah

And then that's what I had to realize And it took that's like wow And it works when people start feeding into that Yes I've seen that They start reading the comments I'm like you know what I am the worst and that's the

I do do this And they start feeling that Yes That's when shit falls in Everybody brings something different to the table Yeah I think people have their favorites You know with any show

Yes probably going to have their favorites. But I do think it becomes an issue when people are trying to like put y'all against each other. Or like you said, everybody has their strengths and weaknesses that they bring to the table. So what is with all of the comparisons? Yeah. Yes. Because we, everybody have different strengths.

Different weaknesses. Yeah. I play to my strength. I stay away from his weaknesses. He plays to his strengths. He stays away from his weaknesses. As long as we do that, it's not about, it's got to anything that says. it's nightcap, it's nightcap.

It's not Ocho, it's not UCHO, it's not Joe, it's nightcap. So whoever gets the credit, Nightcap gets the credit. Right. Exactly. When we show up, it's not one of us showing up, all three of us show up. And before Joe came on, it was Ocho and I showing up. But I was like,

how do you get, because Reel comes on, that I'm trying to backdoor Ocho, all the women in the world, I'm going to talk to my partners. I'm going to try to hollied my partner girl on the sneak. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, people leave weird comments.

They do. Our YouTube channel all the time. Yeah. But I think it's more so. But you got to be strong, though. That's why I say people are going to be weird, but to me it's more weird when people feed into the comments. So we've always strayed away from that. Because one thing about it, we're going to be a united friend.

Yes. I don't give a damn what anybody got to say. It's never going to be like, Drea, they're right. You should never, never, ever. I agree with it. Never. Yeah, we do a good job of like not, I'm not going to say not paying attention to it because you're human.

Yes. Like you see the comments. I'm not going to act like we don't see this. Yes. But when we have conversations about it off camera and then when we on the show, we be like, girl, we be having the same conversations off camera. We'd be like, man, fuck these people. These people.

Girl, did you see? We be sitting each other. Girl, did you see this content? This person weird as hell. Yeah. Because people really do want to put you against your friend. Yes. And they really do want to compare y'all.

Like, they'll try to compare your personalities. They'll try to compare your looks. Like, just all type of unnecessary stuff. Just watch the content and enjoy it. And if you don't like it, go watch some other content. It's so late. 40,000 podcasts. 40,000.

For whatever you into, people love to say, oh, we don't talk about serious topics. We don't talk about. But they got 10,000 podcasts. They do. They do. So go watch those. This is supposed to be fun.

It's supposed to be lighthearted banter between two friends, having a good time. If you want something serious, it's out there. And they always like, you ought to have this person on your podcast. I said, what, when are you using, who podcast you've seen Oprah on? You've seen Jayzee on. Exactly. All these people that you're telling me I should have, they ain't on nobody else podcast. Right.

Are you reached out to him? You get on. You get on. Yeah. Tell Jay Z he need to come on Club, Shays. Tell Oprah she need to come on Club, Shack. I'll graciously accept because they think it's that easy.

People don't realize. It's very hard to do these because you're doing 52. I mean, we do one every week. So that's 52. We've been going to this thing now, what, C.J. since 2020? So six years. So that's almost 300 interviews.

And I commend you for that because I hate when people do seasons on podcasts. I hate seasons. You got to drop every week. You got to drop every week. And we've been doing every week since 2018. We did a little before. You did before?

Yeah, we're almost at, I think we're almost at 400 episodes. Yeah, so. Well, I didn't really want to do a podcast. You didn't? So how did you start doing it? Fox wrote it into my contract. I had to. And when they had the pandemic.

Yeah, they had the pandemic. And it says, well, you know, we like for you to start the podcast because, you know, everybody was landlocked and everybody had a lot of time on the hand. And CJ was at Fox. I brought it, you know, he came with me when I, you know, went on on my own. I was like, CJ, man, podcast. I mean, how I'm going to get people. Who? What am I going to do?

Yeah. He's like, just go on your phone. The most famous people that you got. And look at it. That's crazy. So I think that gave me to look because we started, we came out, we had Snoop Dogg and Ice Cube and Money Made Weather and Rick Ross and, you know, we had heavyweights coming out the gate.

At the gate. They're like, well, damn. Yeah. Nobody really had it like that. And then, you know, we just grew organically from 500 followers, you know, to now what we have now. It's just unbelievable. I never thought Club Shay Shay would be this successful.

It's crazy. No. We manifested this too because when you came to Atlanta and you did Carlos episode you filmed in our room. Yes. That was our room that you filmed in our studio.

No, Shay, we got the nicest room in 85. Okay. Ours is decked out. Okay. It's real nice. So it was like, that means we're on the way to Club Shays'i Shaz. We was like, it's coming.

We can feel it. Well, I appreciate you guys. That means a lot. You guys assigned to 85. South Media, Carlos Miller. What has Carlos meant for you guys' career? Oh, Carlos has been amazing. Like, I feel like he's been an instrumental part of our career because he kind of gave

us the opportunity, you know what I mean? When we were still filming at my apartment before we were ever even in the studio, he pulled up to my apartment and recorded with us. Yeah, he was. Your living room floor. Yes, he was. Literally. And then, like, a few years later, the show grown.

The show grown. That's all right. It's that brown. The show had grew a little bit more, and then he, you know, often for us to come on 85 South. So we went on 85 South, and that really, like, catapulted our show to another level because I think that episode got like a million views in, like, two or three days. Yes.

Yeah. And so that helped us get a lot more viewership. And then they ended up asking us, did we want to sign to them? Because they were trying to start a management company, and we were going to be the first people that they signed. Right. So they signed us. We was kind of like

their guinea pigs a little bit, but it ended up working out amazingly. And Carlos and 85 South have just been such a blessing in our lives with the show. They really cleaned up our business, too. Like, we didn't know what we're doing, what we were doing, but they have taught us so much.

And, like, we were getting so many nose. And Carlos was the one yes. And it's crazy because all them knows came back like, hey, when that finishes up, y'all can come over here. We're like, no. Yeah. You had your chance.

And that's, and, we're proof that all you need is one yes so I'm cool with all these notes because I know once I get that one yes it'd be up that's all of them. Both of you guys have lost a parent and that's something that you guys can relate to. Obviously you both

been bartenders, you both, your partners now you grow. So how is it have you guys, have you guys talked about what it's like losing a parent? Yeah, we've talked about it a lot of times I mean because it's something that we still deal with. I don't think grief ever stops if anything like as time progresses

it just comes more in ways. So you'll think that you're in a good space and then something will happen where it triggers you and it reminds you of that person and it brings you back to those old memories and now you're an emotional wreck. But like I will say for me now when it comes to my dad, when I think about him when I do cry,

it's more happy tears than me being really sad like how I was in the beginning. But I mean, it's difficult, especially doing it while navigating being a public figure being a social media kind of personality because I remember the day my dad passed away I had to still record poor minds

and still to this day when people watch the episode they always say they couldn't tell that I had just lost my dad but I-you-dob job dead. Thank you thank you and I felt like that's what I had to do because back then we weren't batch recording either so if we didn't record an episode that we it wasn't going to get no money

we didn't get nobody we got to end right but I mean it's extremely difficult And I think the hardest part about it is that when you start to reach this level of success, you wish the person was here to be able to see it. Especially because it's your parent and all of the sacrifices that they made. It's part of the reason why you are who you are today. Yeah, I agree with that. It was the same for me.

Like when my mom passed, we were about to start our second tour. So it's kind of like, okay, do you still want to do the tour or not? Right. And I always just like, every decision I make still to this day is like, okay, I try to put myself like, what would my mom want to see? What would she want? So I think it's so hard to navigate because, you know, people be like,

oh, she's here, she sees you, but it's not the same. It's not the same. The physical, yeah, we know she's here in spirit. And to see this. Yes. To see this. I mean, because my mom was there,

like, my mom was the one in the comments. I got mom, stop. They'd be like in the comments, oh, who are these two girls? Those are my babies. Like, she was in the comments. Fight for her life. Yes, she would.

So I know that she would be like so, so, happy to see this, but it's definitely a hard club to be a part of and you don't understand it until you're in it, you know what I mean? So I think one thing that I have found joy in is just like I find joy in bringing people joy, you know, because sometimes I don't have a lot of joy, but when I see people like, man, Lex, you and Dre made me laugh so hard today, like that feels that void, you know, because that's how my mom was for me when I was feeling bad. She'd be like, girl, do you know who you are? Like, my mom, because we're from a small town, so she used to swear up and down.

She was like the Michelle Obama of Orange, Texas, care. So she was like, do you know who you are? Like, she would always remind me of who I was. So I think we're just kind of living in our purpose for our parents. What do you think you're the most important thing that you learn from your parents? To be kind, because kindness doesn't cost anything. Like, I'm just always so shocked, especially being in the space that we are in now, especially with like having a team and having employees.

Sometimes I get on the internet and I see how people treat the people that work for them who help make their business run the way that it runs. And it shocks me or even just, you know, we're in a time where people feel like they have to record everything, how people treat homeless people, how they treat waitresses and restaurants. I think the kindness that spills out of you is a big indication of your character. Yeah, for sure. And it's a big indication of the people that raised you. as well. And so one of the best things that I think my parents instilled in me is just being a kind

person. My mom even told me she came to our studio back in December when we were recording an episode and she was telling me how like so many of our, like so many people that were a part of our staff was just telling her how nice of a person I am. And she raised me to be so nice. And I think that's one of the best compliments that you can get from people. Yeah. About your character as a person. I agree. Like I grew up kind of spoiled and kind of having and everything, and my mom just instilled in me, like, she always had this thing, like, when you put good in the universe, it's going to come back to you. I don't care what you're going through.

I don't care if you had your last dime. You don't let people use you or make you feel like less than. Less than. And then you want to, oh, I'm a show you. I don't have that revenge spirit in me. I'm not a spiteful person. I've had some people do the meanest, nastiest things to me. And I still don't have that spirit in me to do.

anything back to you because you know what that's why I say God bless you and I send people on their way right because I continue to put good energy in the world do I slip up yes but I'm still a human being but I continue to put that good energy in the world and I think my life is a testament of the energy that I've put into the world so that was something my mom always said to me she was like if you do good and do right by people you will receive your blessings in life and my life is one big blessing for sure You're right Listen

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Listen to Rebel Spirit Season 2 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever had a conversation with your mom? Because your mom was extremely young when she conceived you. Mm-hmm. I mean, not even a teenager quite. Yeah. Like, when you have a, have you had a conversation with your mom about that? Yeah, we've had conversations about that.

But, you know, I didn't grow up with her. I did, but I thought she was my cousin. Your grandmother probably. Well, my, yeah, my great-unt raised me. Okay. But I have had conversations with my biological mom. And I think honestly still to this day, that's why we don't have a extremely close relationship. Because it was a difficult situation for her to navigate in childhood and even now in adulthood.

Because she was a child. Yes, but it was also like a chain of traumatic events that led today ended up. the outcome for her of her getting pregnant at such a young age. So I think it's just very traumatic for her. And sometimes I think that I'm in a lot of ways a reminder of that. And she hasn't healed or grown. And she can't verbalize. She can't explain to you and she can't quite put into words.

Right. Of what not only that it did to her, but probably her not being there for you. Yeah. And I think in a lot of ways, like being a child when that happened to her, she felt like a lot of the adults in her life weren't there for her. Yes. And they didn't protect her. Yes.

And so she has kind of an estranged relationship with some of the people in our family as well. I can see that because I'm of that generation. And I understand because they look at women that, excuse me, young ladies that had, she was a child. Yeah, yeah. When they have kids at that age, oh, she was fasting. She asked for it. She put herself in that situation. So I know what people around them.

that because I've been in situations that I've seen people have kids at a very young age and they brought that on themselves. That's a child. Yeah. No matter what you think, Fassey or this or grown, she was grown. That is a child. Yes. A child deserved protection.

Absolutely. Not scorn, not ridiculed. And how do you, I mean, when she grows up, she grew up like that and having to place you there. And like you said, a lot of times, that's what they do. Oh, that's your cousin. That's your sister. That's your auntie.

Yep. How old were you when you found out that was your mom? I was 18. But I already knew, though. Really? Yeah. How did you know? Because, like, we, because we look alike.

Really? Yeah. And so for me to be adopted from outside of my family, and I happened to look so much like my cousin who's 12 years older than me, who I grew up around, kind of strange a little bit. And then I also, like, I look like her and her sister. Yeah. So I thought it was really weird.

And my mom that raised me, like, growing up, she would tell me little things here and there about my biological mom. So I kind of just started putting two and two together. And so by the time I was 18 and they took me out to dinner and they told me I wasn't really that shot. So like I already knew. When you finally, when they finally told you, even though you had some inclination that this was your biological mom, was she there? Did she cry? Did you cry? What were the emotions that you felt that came pouring out?

because you finally had the answer. You surmised that this might be my mom, but to know it wholeheartedly that this is my mom. I knew this all along, but I finally got the answers. I finally got the truth that this is her. It was a lot of emotion. So, yeah, she was there.

My mom that raised me was there, which is really my great aunt. And then her mom was there, my biological mom. Her mom was there, so my biological grandma. Yeah, so all of us were there. And I remember I was, like I said, I already knew. So I wasn't super shocked, but I did feel a certain sense of, like, betrayal. That's what I was going to say.

I was going to say you felt betrayed. Yeah, I did because I just couldn't believe. And by everybody but my mom that raised me because she was always as honest as she could be considering the circumstances. Her and my dad were always really honest with me. But I felt really betrayed by my biological mom and my biological grandma because I just, I just felt like how could y'all let all this time go by and not want me to know this information. And then I found out that they never wanted me to know. It was really my mom that raised me that pushed for me to find out about the whole situation and everything.

So it was definitely really difficult. And I cried a lot for a really long time. And then we tried to start having a better relationship because we were never really close to begin with. But we tried to start having a good relationship. and then over the years it's just kind of been like this up and down type of relationship. When we try, then we don't speak. We tried and we don't speak. Did you feel like 18 years is a long time?

Because the question is, is this what I always tell people? Are you trying to go back and get what you lost or are you trying to start from 18 and move forward? Because you can't go back to 18 and get what you lost. That's never coming back. You've got to start 18 and move forward. I think that you should be trying to move forward, but I also think that that has to be on both people to want the same thing.

And for me, it was something that I wanted. And still to this day, it's something that I'm open to having with her. But I think she has to get to a point to where she's okay with having that type of, like having a closer relationship with me. And then I have a little sister now. So sometimes I do wish I could be closer to my little sister, but we don't really have a relationship so that's difficult. It's hard for you to ever.

Because my little sister is like 80. Wow. So, yeah. I forgot she is older now. Mm-hmm. I'll be shocked every time I hear it. It's a lot. It is.

It's difficult. But again, I think it's feelings and emotions that she has to work through that I've learned to not internalize, going to therapy and stuff myself. It's things that I can't hold against her or internalize or feel like it's about me because it's literally not about me. It's about her. Have she gone to therapy? Have you recommended therapy? Have you sought like, Mama, you need to get? to therapy. I'm willing to send you to therapy because I want to have this relationship

because I understand your great aunt raised you and she did an unbelievable job. Thank you. But you only get one mom. Yeah. And she actually really wants me to have a better relationship with my biological mom. I mean, I don't know if she's went to therapy. The last time that I had a conversation with her about it was maybe like five, six years ago about her going to therapy. So I don't know if it's something that she's done as of late. But, I mean, yeah, I would be open to go into therapy with her. Right. But again, it's something that I think.

That's something she's going to have to want to do, though. But I do have a, I am blessed enough to have a relationship with my dad, with my biological dad. Right. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Wow. Because he got out of jail a few years ago and now we have a really good relationship. Do they have a relationship?

No. Mm-mm. But she did connect me to him. Right. So that's how I mean. Yeah. But they really never had a about, they never. had a relationship after the conception of you or after you came?

No, because they were so young. Like, she was 12 and I think he's two years older than her. And then he ended up going to prison like two years after I was born. And he was in there my whole life. Wow. Yeah. So he just got out of jail like two years ago. He was a child too.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, they were both minors. That's a lot. It is. It is. It's a lot. I'd be like, I could write a child up here.

That's why I said, don't let Tyler. Don't let Tyler see this now. Half and a half not sing I shoot on my family. Yeah. I mean, I mean, to think about, and that just goes to show you, because a lot of times people talk about their situation, and you don't really know what someone else is going. Yeah.

You think your situation is bad. Someone else had a situation worse. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And I just always say I feel extremely blessed to have ended up in the situation that I ended up with my adoptive parents. They raised me because sometimes I do think about what my mom is. life would have been like if my biological parents did raise me and I don't know that it would

have been the same outcome. They were not equipped. They were not equipped. A child can't raise a child. Absolutely. I mean, you give a child a baby dog. They sit the baby dog down and they go on about this. They didn't think about that baby dog until the next day. Remember when they used to be giving us eggs? Yeah, yeah. Yes. Yes. But I think just to add on to that, I think that's a testament of, you know, your mom and your dad because like, Dre is the friend. Like, you feel like she always has it together. everything is good. So me and her first became friends. I remember we sat down for one night.

We were just drinking and she gave me the whole spill of her whole family. I was like, wait, who did? It's a lot, you know what I'm saying? That's a lot of movies. And it was just like, wow, I would have never thought, you know, I'm saying. So you never know how people were raised, what they've been through, what they've gone through. But I think it's just a testament to, you know, your mom and how of amazing of a job that she did for real. I think the thing is the biggest thing that you can take from that is you don't let circumstance determine your outcome.

Absolutely. And I also think it's always a testament to God and him having an anointing on your life as well. So whatever it's supposed to be is going to have to regard. Yes. All right. We're going to get you out of here on this. Now you're all, you know, 35, 37. What did you know that what would you do differently at 35 and 37 had you known in your 20s?

Oh, I always say I wouldn't a day. some of the people I'd ask. Because they didn't deserve access. They didn't deserve access. No, I gave people access to me that didn't ever deserve it in the first place. And that's something that I wish that I known better in my 20s.

And then another thing, investing. I wish that was something that I knew more about back then because I'd be like, damn, I'd be sitting on a whole bunch more money. If I had started investing back in. But with poor minds, would it have come to be,

if you had to invest it in Bitcoin. Right. If you would have been rich I would have been living on her couch. I would have been living good. It wouldn't have been no poor mind. You're right. And that's why I think everything does happen for a reason.

So you can't look back on it and regret it. You know what? For me, this is so simple and it's so silly, but it's something that I've been actively doing. I wish I would have took more pictures because I don't have a lot of pictures with my mom because she hated taking pictures. Yes.

And now even like with my nephews, like, when he was little, like I wish I would have taken. We have tons and tons of pictures of him, but I just even think of just about life in general. Like, me and Dre have tons of pictures together, but I just wish, like, I need to start documenting my life a lot better. Yes, yes. And when I think about times of me just even working in the club,

like I was just working. Right. And I didn't stop and be like, oh, girl, let's just take a quick picture. Not to post, but just to have it. I think we're living in the time where everybody, we are trying so hard to be private. where we need to put the phones down, but we're putting them down so much

to where we're not saving memories for like our grandkids to see. You know, people down the lines to see. And I'm not talking about poor minds and club shay-shay. It's going to be on YouTube forever. Yes. But when our people want to see

our intimate, private moments, scrapbooking, like we don't do that no more. So I think for me, I really regret does not document it in my life a lot better than I should have, yeah. What are the goals? moving forward. We have so many goals.

Like eventually we want to have a production company. We would love to start signing other podcasts at some point. On your umbrella. Yes. Under the umbrella. Mm-hmm. We would love to get a deal. Like we talk about there all the time, like a streaming deal.

Yes. We would love to do that. We would love to get another TV show. Because I feel like, you know, we had Travel Queens last year, which was our reality show. And it was so good. Like, I feel like it really deserved a second season, but it didn't end up happening for, like, a lot of different behind-the-scenes reasons. It wasn't us, though.

It wasn't us, though. For all y'all out there, we brought the heat. Yeah, but we would love to have another reality show for me personally. I have my cosmetics brand, Muse Beauty. Okay. It's Muse Beauty Collection.com. So you're about to be Rihanna, Kim K. I'm trying.

I'm trying. So, like, my next goal is to end up being an altar, Sephora. Yeah, okay. And just growing skill. it to a multimillion dollar company. And same thing with poor minds, just growing and scaling it to a multi-million dollar company. Yeah, I'm the same.

Like, I feel like poor minds, we have so much that we have to do. And I just feel like, we just haven't scratched the surface on all that. And then I have my personal podcast, Love Lexpe. I have fun with that. And I'm also getting into some acting, you know, the comedic acting lane. Okay. Everybody be asking me to do stand-up, and I don't necessarily know if that's for me right now. Right.

But I do have something exciting coming up. I can't announce it yet. Okay. But I think when I dropped this announcement, everybody's going to be like, oh, my God, this makes sense. And I know it's going to open the doors to a lot of things. So, like, my goal in the next few years is just to really get my acting bag. Like, I tell myself, I want to get an Oscar for, like, a comedic performance. Right.

Because I feel like Oscars always go to, like, the series, the drama. I want to make people laugh so hard. They're like, oh, you got to get that. So my goal's outside of poor minds. Like, I really want to focus on my acting. and, you know, do all that stuff. What can people expect from the live show? Ooh.

It's such a fun experience. Like, I don't even know how to explain it, to be honest. Like, we always say it's kind of like having a girls night in with your home girls. Yeah. Mixed with maybe a variety show a little bit. Yes. So, I mean, you can expect some twerking. Some singing.

You can expect some singing. You can expect some jokes. You can expect some serious conversations. We also going to give advice. We might share a few tears. I mean, it's really just an experience like none other. I truly don't feel like any other live podcast that's on tour right now is similar to our show. You can't get it anywhere else.

It's extremely unique, extremely unique to say the least. I feel like this is our third tour. And so, you know, checks have cleared. So the production value has gone up. You know, we have more of a staff now. Yes. It's more organized. Like, we used to be on the way to the show, be like, what we're going to do,

what we've been to talk about. But like now it's organized. And it's just a really good time. We got a rundown. We got a run down. We are prepared. Yeah. So it's like we really like the poor crew, that's what we call our listeners.

They have really shown up for us. So honestly, the way this tour is kind of turned out is kind of like a thank you to them. Yes. This is just so we can connect with y'all again and have a good time. So like, like she said, poor minds live is an experience like you've never seen. And then we're going to London. We're taking it overseas. We've got a London show.

Wow. And it's like already like, it's going to sell. It's going to sell it. It's not sold out yet, but it's going to sell out for sure. So, yeah, we're going overseas. Yes. Drell Lex. Across the pond.

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